August 19, 2010

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 03:56:32

Architect index shows big drop in new projects in July
Birmingham Business Journal

The Architecture Billings Index continued to reflect volatility in design firms in July, said the American Institute of Architects.

The industry association said the index scored at 47.9 in July, up from 46 in June but still below the 50 score that would indicate an increase in architectural billings at firms.

And its new project inquiry index dropped substantially to 53.1, from 57.7 in June, said a news release.

“Business conditions at design firms remain quite volatile,” said Kermit Baker, chief economist at the AIA. “While this recent uptick is encouraging, this state of the industry is likely to persist for a while as we continue to receive a mixed bag of feedback on the condition of the design market from improving to flat to being paralyzed by uncertainty.”

Comment by oxide
2010-08-19 05:26:58

Good. The less fugly architecture, the better. I can spot a 1997-2009 crappy design from a mile away. Just look for the corner turret with the round flat overhanging roof. And they all “got stucco” — the fake red and tan type.

Design something that doesn’t look wrong, please, and maybe I’ll consider buying it.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 05:41:45

“Design something that doesn’t look wrong, please, and maybe I’ll consider buying it.”

Soon coming to a neighborhood near you. We are entering the Era where Less is More; Less of the fluff, more of the functional. Not only true for housing but true for everything else.

People who are used to spending money they don’t have to impress people they don’t know are going to be forced to change their ways, so say goodbye to the McMansion.

Back to the “good ol’ days”, some may say.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 06:08:40

Then we can get rid of the McMusic air head chickypoos and get real musicians back on the radio……hmmmm zydeco music

Less of the fluff, more of the functional. Not only true for housing but true for everything else.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 07:48:39

Then we can get rid of the McMusic air head chickypoos and get real musicians back on the radio……hmmmm zydeco music

Sorry to say, but you won’t hear real musicians on mainstream, Clear Channel-ized radio. Look to Internet-based broadcasting, or small, independent radio stations in the college and community arenas.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:11:48

Faux-Med-Style-Stucco = GaGa

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 09:48:26

The first time I heard a Gaga song I thought “What the heck is wrong with Madonna? She usually has more musical taste than this!”

 
 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 09:01:25

Good. They have ruined some of the neighborhoods around me by demolishing the smaller homes with character and building those ’same old, same old’ cookie cutter huge homes.

The ones that now overlook the neighbors yards, so no longer have privacy. I’ve often wondered when the planners approve this, if they would approve it if it was next door to them.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 09:08:34

The ones that now overlook the neighbors yards, so no longer have privacy.

If I were the neighbors to these McMansions, I’d be tempted to do things like graze cattle in the backyard. Or walk around in the buff. Just to spite them.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-08-19 10:25:49

Notes to self:

-Buy house next door to Arizona Slim

-Bring binoculars

:)

 
Comment by bink
2010-08-19 14:28:35

Or walk around in the buff. Just to spite them.

Woah, woah, woah! No need to resort to terrorism.

 
 
 
Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-19 05:58:09

I wonder what suckers are lining up to buy equity in GM?How a company goes from bankrupt to issueing new shares in a year is beyond me.I beleive it will be around 20 billion so they can pay the govt part of their money back.

So basically they are asking investors to pay back the govt?Am I missing something here?

Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 06:04:22

I’m not sure I get your point. For many (but hardly all) FBs if their mortgage debt was forgiven, they could swing their CC payments. Similarly, with GM managing to shed much of it’s debt in bankruptcy, it’s perfectly possible that it could be a successful business. Now it’s not a bet that I’M going to make, but a bankruptcy reorganization certainly DOES improve the balance sheet, even as it changes the ownership of the company.

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Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-19 06:08:49

So a company enters bankruptcy wiping out common shareholders.Then a year later they are back at the troff looking for more investors money to pay their bills.I see a real problem with that.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 06:31:14

Or, you argue that after the owners ran the company into the ground, either through taking out too many dividends, or possibly simply hiring incompetents to run the thing, the creditors who were stiffed out of a large proportion of the money they were owed tried to get SOME of their money back by selling part of their NEW ownership share.

At the end of the day, stockholders ARE the owners and responsible for the actions of the company. Just because most of them don’t CHOOSE to exercise their rights doesn’t lesson thier ultimate responsiblity. There’s a REASON that even if you only own one share, you get an annual report and get to vote for the board of directors. As RUSH used to say “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

Now it’s possible that the management DEFRAUDED the owners of the company, but lets face it; there usually a whole crew of accountants whose job it is to make sure that even the most opaque and misleading annual report stops short of actual fraud.

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-08-19 07:05:55

Hit the reset button, rinse and repeat. Bets on how long before GM is run into the ground again? 20… 30 years?

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-19 08:08:21

As RUSH used to say “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

They still say it as of Monday night at Red Rocks :-).

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 09:32:12

A company that has gone through bancruptcy restructuring is very analagous to REO. The former owner(s) have been relieved of the property and the new owner(s) are the former creditors. Now you really don’t know whether the house/company was underwater because it was unliveable/incapable of making a profit or because it was HELOC’d/too many bonds were issued. What you DO know is that it isn’t worth as much as the lenders and owners used to think it was. It may indeed be worthless, but you don’t know that without doing further research. What you shoud NEVER do is buy stock in the OLD corporate entity. It would be like buying MBS where most of the properties had already been forclosed on. At the end of the day “Q”= worthless.

 
 
 
Comment by jetson_boy
2010-08-19 07:55:46

Around where my parents live in TN Mcmansions is all they seem to build these days. HUGE, ugly looking 3,500-6,000 sq foot monsters squashed together on a hill that used to be a farm 5 years ago. Most of them seem to be bought by people from New Jersey or Massachusetts. They are all coated with plastic siding or brick and the yards are planted with tiny little trees since all the old trees were bulldozed.

Comment by In Montana
2010-08-19 08:30:29

…well, people need their SPACE you know?? ;)

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 10:13:37

What I find amusing is a house with brick veneer on the front wall only and one of the side walls is an expanse of siding unpunctuated by any windows.

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Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-19 12:22:37

They actually do that because east/western windows from a heating/cooling perspective are not optimal.

But my god does it make the house look ugly. Spend a few bucks better insulating the walls, and make it look more like a house and less like a large box.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-19 16:00:47

Death of the ‘McMansion’: Era of Huge Homes Is Over

http://www.cnbc dot com/id/38757287

 
 
 
Comment by jane
2010-08-20 01:15:37

FYI - there is not a single brain cell of architectural design in any of said mcmansion ghettos. Those places are ‘designed’ by ignorant, illiterate and innumerate developers, who think they can take the place of architects.

It’s no mystery why they’re ugly and crappy. the only design rule used is ‘how many square feet can I throw up at the least cost “.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 04:02:52

Schwarzenegger Orders Furloughs to Start

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said 150,000 government workers must begin taking time off without pay starting Aug. 20 following a court ruling lifting an injunction temporarily blocking the furloughs.

The California Supreme Court, saying it would review the governor’s plan, stayed decisions by lower courts that had halted the furloughs. Schwarzenegger directed state workers to take three unpaid days off each month to save cash.

California began its fiscal year on July 1 without a spending plan after Schwarzenegger and Democrats who lead the Legislature remained deadlocked over how to fill a $19.1 billion deficit. The Republican governor on July 28 issued an executive order for the monthly furloughs until a budget is passed.

“The result of the Supreme Court ruling today means that the furloughs will continue until the court says otherwise,” Aaron McLear, a Schwarzenegger spokesman, said by e-mail.

A union for state engineers has sued to block the plan.

Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-19 06:11:12

These unions remind me of socialism I must say.Public employees should not be unionized.

People are so pissed off about these unions that they are disgusted paying taxes.

I wonder if people on welfare will start a union so the state cant cut their benefits.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-19 08:19:10

“These unions remind me of socialism I must say.Public employees should not be unionized.”

Then you need to call your Senator to OPPOSE the latest Obama sneak attack against the people of the States. Below is a snip from and American Spectator Article:

RE: The misleadingly named “Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act” (originally H.R. 413; S. 1611, 3194).
The bill would unconstitutionally abrogate all states’ sovereignty, subject state and local public-safety workers to compulsory union “representation,” eliminate local government control over the labor relations of their own workers, lead to a rise in labor strife, and further damage fragile state and local government economies by imposing unfunded federal mandates

You get that. If your State doesn’t allow Public Sector unions, and some don’t, then the Fed’s are going to FORCE them to unionize their public employees, so you can pay higher taxes to support the higher pay and lavish pension plans.
Another Federal Mandate. This is not a “federal” issue. But the latest Congress thinks they can impose any rules they want upon States. This is not Federalism. It’s becoming a dictatorship.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:41:44

Do you know why? Because they would have cut the budget to the point where people will get killed.

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Comment by robin
2010-08-19 22:17:18

What part of “abrogate” are we misunderstanding?

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Comment by rms
2010-08-19 07:12:53

“A union for state engineers has sued to block the plan.”

The state’s engineers that control the electrical grid and hydraulic (water) system should shut down operations, take a week off. The public doesn’t understand our infrastructure until it doesn’t work.

Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-08-19 07:34:07

Hold the public hostage through purposely shut-down infrastructure? Geeze, sounds unethical to me.

Comment by rms
2010-08-19 07:40:17

Ever wonder why the IBEW is so powerful?

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-19 08:08:32

“Hold the public hostage through purposely shut-down infrastructure?”

_ L L _ N _ _ N M _ M B _ R S _ R _ T H _ G S

“I’d like to solve it, Alex.”

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Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-19 08:21:33

Is it: All Union members are thugs, Alex ??

Ding. Ding. Ding. Winner…….winner……you are the winner.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-08-19 08:53:51

Well I guess this makes infrastructure “too-big-to-fail.”

 
Comment by VegasBob
2010-08-19 12:46:32

I though it was Pat who ran that puzzle show.

Alex runs the other show…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:38:17

Thank god CEOS and BODs are such nice, honest, considerate, god fearing people. :roll:

 
 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 09:59:00

I’d say that move right there would be grounds for union busting all infrastructure. It’d be a national security issue at that point.

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Comment by rms
2010-08-19 11:39:30

“I’d say that move right there would be grounds for union busting all infrastructure. It’d be a national security issue at that point.”

They could replace these engineers with day-labor; it would save million$. The savings could be used for diabetic therapy for those land whales sitting at home watching the Love Connection while gorging on the bucket of chicken and 2-liter root beer.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 14:22:15

You don’t have to replace them. Just let them know that shutting off power and water to hospitals is unacceptable. If they don’t like it, they can walk. There are undergrads and grands hungry for jobs these days.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 14:44:09

Just let them know that shutting off power and water to hospitals is unacceptable.

A few years ago, our local gas company had to deal with a case of sabotage. Disgruntled employee. Or former employee. (I forgot which.)

Any-hoo, when that person was caught, the consequences were not fun. I seem to recall that prosecution and hoosegow time were among them.

 
Comment by rms
2010-08-19 16:56:20

Recall the air traffic controller’s union v. Reagan?

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 17:07:26

Recall the air traffic controller’s union v. Reagan?

Six years after Reagan fired the PATCO controllers, the replacements formed their own union.

 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 19:34:06

shhhh…. let the nutjobs bask in their ignorant fact fabrications.

 
 
 
 
Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:13:24

There will probably be “judge shopping” by the aggrieved parties until they find a judge (probably federal) that will order tax increases to pay for the budget shortfall.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 04:05:05

Gulf real estate sales suffer from BP oil spill aftermath
USA TODAY

In Grand Isle, La., this is typically a busy season for Realtor Beverly Curole. Interested buyers come to check out the available properties in this barrier island known for its July fishing rodeo, sandy beaches and vacation homes.

But since the Gulf oil spill sent a sheen of oil into the island’s bay, Curole’s buyers have fled. First, they put closings on hold. Then they canceled contracts. Now she’s hoping to get some money from BP for lost commissions.

The beach is now clean, she says, but sales are still suffering. “The buyers aren’t there,” she says. “I’m a sales agent, and there’s nothing to sell. Hopefully, now that it’s capped, it’ll be better, but we don’t know how long it’s going to last.”

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 04:10:44

“Now she’s hoping to get some money from BP for lost commissions”.

I can’t imagine why BP wouldn’t just cut you a check for any canceled sales or future possible sales that you may or may not have had or could have possibly had. Geez.

Comment by palmetto
2010-08-19 05:46:52

In all fairness, if a realtor lost a contract as a result of the spill, they are due compensation just as much as anyone else who lost business, IMO. Future sales might be another story.

Summer along the Gulf Coast, even in a good economy, can be a bit of a struggle to hang on until the season. Most people who do business here understand that and adjust for it. The BP spill and unusual, unrelieved heat this summer has really made it particularly difficult.

BTW, they’re really blowing smoke up our collective arses around here with the “Gulf seafood is safe to eat” mantra. One of the Congresscritters from this area was all over the tube yesterday, saying that those who questioned the safety of Gulf seafood were depriving people in the local seafood industry of a living. I guess I’m just a big meanie. I’m not eating it. And I’m recommending to my friends that they don’t, either. It’s not so much the oil, but the Corexit that bothers me.

Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 11:03:19

Wasn’t that comment that its safe to eat based on just sniffing the fish? Or do I need to stop only partly listening to TV news?

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:44:47

TV? News? You knows that’s an oxymoron, right?

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-08-19 05:50:48

I’ll tell you who is making a mint off the oil spill: local TeeVee and radio stations. Every other commercial is some sort of BP public relations bloviation.

However, if I hear or see another commercial for Mississippi I’m gonna barf. The chorus of “Oh, how I wish you were here” sounds like it is being sung by a bunch of sick, mewing cats. Not that I’m trying to insult cats.

Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:14:45

….it’s providing jobs for cats at least……

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Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 05:36:41

I wonder if the 1.5 million barrels of oil still sitting on the bottom just offshore are putting would-be buyers off?

Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-19 06:12:30

No dude that went away.The govt, bought and paid for by BP, said about 75% of the oil is contained, LMAO!

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-19 06:20:59

I’m still scratching my head, but doesn’t oil float
to the top???

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 06:31:58

My head is also scratchy. Maybe it’s useful to think of oil as just food. Maybe not food to us but food to the multitudes of microbes that seem to be everwhere.

The goo is after all made of biological material. It may be old biological material but biological material nevertheless. Maybe the various microbes exploded their populations and ate it.

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Comment by Rancher
2010-08-19 06:51:50

Aaaaaha…Great minds..etc.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:45:09

Humans appear to be the only organsism on this planet with an insatiable appetite for oil.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 15:24:32

For you scientific-type head-scratchers to contemplate:

Massive Uderwater Oil Plumes Linger in Gulf.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Major-study-charts-apf-2439191540.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

 
 
Comment by cobaltblue
2010-08-19 06:54:29

“I’m still scratching my head, but doesn’t oil float
to the top???”

It does until you CORREXIT the problem with dispersant, thereby keeping it in suspension underwater chemically.

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Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-08-19 07:09:45

toxic dispersant

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:47:33

We have a winner.

But it’s a technique that always work. Out of sight, out of mind, everything must be otay, banky!

‘Cause Suzanne researched it!

 
 
Comment by packman
2010-08-19 07:19:49

I’m still scratching my head, but doesn’t oil float
to the top???

Actually much of it doesn’t. Keep in mind this isn’t your standard motor oil, cooking oil, etc.

Google about the Valdez oil for instance, much of which is still sitting on the bottom or thereabouts. This is especially true after it becomes mixed with other things - microbes, dispersants, etc.

(Thanks to someone here for pointing that out actually - ecofeco I think. I didn’t realize the oil had “stuck around” that much. It’s usually fairly harmless at that point. Not sure however if that’s true in the case of all the Corexit-mixed oil.)

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Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 09:18:48

There’s probably a climate angle there too. Oil probably sticks around in frigid Alaskan waters much longer than in warm Gulf waters.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 10:23:55

ISTR that the microbes that eat it aren’t anywhere NEAR as active in that sort of cold water. IMHO that there could be a real issue with thinks like shellfish that are filter feeders. I just have NO IDEA what happens to crude, or corexit treated crude inside an oyster. Does it pass right through, or does it clog the filters, killing it or does it concentrate in organs making it unhealthy to eat? I have no idea and I haven’t heard anybody mentions any studies that might throw light on the issue.

 
Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 17:48:26

Shellfish are periodically exposed to the red tide - the poisonous plankton that is known to kill numerous fish - but they seem to do just fine. I believe it has everything to do with the shelfish’s liver.

I used to skindive for Pismo clams off of Huntington Beach and was warned not to eat the dark spots during redtide season else I might die. The dark spots are the clam’s liver and the plankton trapped in the clam’s intenstine.

As I understand it, the liver is the Great Detoxifer of the animal kingdom. Whatever is digested in the stomach goes straight to the liver where it is subjected to numerous chemical treatments before being released into the bloodstream. Whatever the liver doesn’t release for circulation it stores, so if one eats the liver then one gets a heavy dose of stored-up toxins.

As a guess I’d say the same rule should apply for eating oiled shellfish as it does for redtide shellfish, meaning don’t eat the dark spots.

But that’s just a guess. Maybe somebody else has something to add (or subtract)?

 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 19:41:01

Jeeez… Basic high school chemistry anyone?

LNAPL- Light non-aqueous phase liquid. Any liquid with a specific gravity 1.0

Crude oil=DNAPL=mixture of long chained hydrocarbons=sg>1.0

 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 19:49:06

WTF happend to my post?

LNAPL- Light non-aqueous phase liquid. Any liquid with a specific gravity less than 1.0

DNAPL- Light non-aqueous phase liquid. Any liquid with a specific gravity greater than 1.0

Crude oil=DNAPL=mixture of long chained hydrocarbons=sg greater than 1.0

I think my first post got chopped because I used less than and greater than signs.

 
 
Comment by Lip
2010-08-19 07:30:24

I had the chance to talk to an oil guy and he said a lighter oil would float and evaporate. But I am with Palmy on this one. I would’t eat it for a few years

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Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:15:09

Not when millions of gallons of dispersant have been used to sink it to the bottom.

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Comment by Eddie
2010-08-19 13:53:12

It is silly to compare Valdez with BP (not that it doesn’t stop people).

Valdez was crude oil. BP is sweet light crude oil. Both are “oil” but that’s like comparing a 747 with a Cessna. Yeah both are “planes” but the effects of a 747 crashing vs. a Cessna crashing aren’t anywhere close to the same.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:49:11

Everything counts in large amounts.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Shelby
2010-08-19 08:00:18

Having lived in Louisiana for WAY too many years back in the ’80’s, I can tell you that the Gulf Coast there is a sewer, and always has been - long before the BP mess

Gotta love that Sea air, sweating 10 Months of the year, fireants everywhere , gators, sharks, cockroaches as big as mice - yeah that’s where I want to be

NOT !!!!!

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-08-19 09:52:22

I bet you can grow a wicked garden there, though. I’ll take that over some blast furnace like AZ or the IE.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:07:33

I can recall toasting my birthday after a day of post-Katrina reconstruction in coastal MS.

The beer (which we snuck onto the seawall at Pascagoula) was tasty, my friends were great company, but the water? Ummmm, I know that it was my birthday and I was feeling up for a dare. But jump into the Gulf of Mexico, which was lapping beneath our feet? Uh-uh!

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-19 16:04:24

After just returning from a trip to Florida, I can’t
fathom how anyone in their right mind would
live in the south.

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-19 16:06:25

My first summer in the army in Tennessee, I was dumbfounded that any human voluntarily lived there prior to air conditioning.

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Comment by jbunniii
2010-08-19 13:16:52

Heard on the radio the other day that people have filed claims from ALL 50 STATES for compensation related to the oil spill. Some of the “reasons” have got to be pretty creative.

 
 
Comment by cougar91
2010-08-19 04:16:05

Now this is something even the smart HBB crew couldn’t have seen coming as a result of the RE bust and recession. This man is a fool, you are ALWAYS suppose to have the girls take their clothes off FIRST!!!

2 women accused of extortion in Fairfax sex-for-rent case

Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 18, 2010

In these tough economic times, Fairfax County police say it’s not unheard of for a tenant to offer a landlord sexual favors in exchange for a month’s rent. But when the scheme extends to blackmailing the landlord by threatening to tell his wife, people get arrested.

Fairfax police said that two 20-something women living in an apartment on Beekman Place, just off Route 1 near Fort Belvoir, called the landlord recently and informed him that they were unable to pay the rent. “The suspects suggested they would perform sexual acts in place of the rent,” according to an affidavit by Detective Mike Holland filed Tuesday in Fairfax Circuit Court.

“The victim agreed,” said Holland, who investigates financial crimes.

So the landlord went over to the apartment, in the Sacramento neighborhood, and was instructed to go into the bedroom and remove his clothing, which he did, Holland wrote.

One woman “then did a slow dance while removing some of her clothing” and jumped on the bed, “straddling the victim.” The other woman came into the room and snatched the man’s clothes and cellphone, according to Holland. The landlord got up, found his clothes and phone and left.

Next, police allege, the women called the landlord and told him that they had photos and video of the bedroom encounter. “Unless he gave them $500 per week and free rent,” Holland wrote, “they would give a copy of the DVD to his wife.” The women sent the landlord a photo of himself naked on the bed, according to Holland.

The man went to the police, and last week Holland had him make a call to the tenants. In that call, one of the women boasted to the man that “several recording devices were used to capture the event” and that recordings were “stored on several electronic devices within her residence,” Holland wrote.

But the woman made a new offer: If the man gave the women “$11,000 in cash, she would give him the recordings and go away,” according to the affidavit.

No deal, the man said.

On Tuesday morning, police raided the apartment, in the 8600 block of Beekman Place, and seized CDs, DVDs, a camcorder, a still camera and some marijuana, court records show. The women were arrested.

Jessica Testin, 23, and Rachel Beloff, 26, were both charged with a felony threat to extort money, which carries a possible prison sentence of as much as 10 years. Officer Bud Walker, a Fairfax police spokesman, said that the women were California residents and that he did not know why they were living in southern Fairfax.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 06:25:29

You bring to mind a story of a few years back about a SoCal prostitution ring which was running some kind of mortgage scam as part of their business plan. Sorry no linkee…

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 06:32:43

which was running some kind of mortgage scam as part of their business plan. Sorry no linkee…

Google: PIMPCO + Gross …click on the suggested correction. ;-)

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 06:46:06

Too funny!

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Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 07:26:11

“Jessica Testin, 23, and Rachel Beloff, 26, were both charged with a felony threat to extort money, which carries a possible prison sentence of as much as 10 years.”

Well, that would kind of solve their housing problem!

Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 11:23:25

Yeah, but the taxpayer still gets stuck with the cost……………..hahaha

 
 
Comment by Shelby
2010-08-19 08:12:24

Just goes ta show ya that our RE market is crazy in DC/NoVA as well, just as crazy as Cali (and not nearly as nice!!!) :)

 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-08-19 08:35:46

Well, now I know why some of these folks bought investment properties with a negative carry. That was only based on the cash income.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 10:04:20

Sounds like they will wind up with free room and board after all! Their scheme worked perfectly!

Sorta.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 04:52:41

Western profits wilt on China’s surging wages
Rising wage and production costs in China are eating into the profits of Western companies and may soon set off an exodus of multinational companies to cheaper locations. ~ Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

A report by Credit Suisse said the vast majority of US and European companies in China are expecting a “margin hit” over the next 12 months and fear they will not be able to pass on the costs to consumers, with the biggest worrries in electronics, clothing, and retail.

The bank said Footlocker, Liz Claiborne, and Office Depot would tip into outright loss in a worst-case scenario, defined as a 20pc rise in costs without any pass-through to customers.

“The US industrial giant General Electric raised eyebrows in May with plans to shift production of its hybrid water heater from China back to Kentucky next year after securing lower wages from US workers. The company cited the narrowing pay gap, lower transport costs, and shorter delivery times”.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 06:20:59

“… may soon set off an exodus of multinational companies to cheaper locations.”

What? And leave all hundreds of billions of dollars they invested in infrastructure to the Chineese?

Lol. China has the multinationals just where they want them.

Popcorn time.

Comment by oxide
2010-08-19 06:36:08

Why not? Corporations moved their equiment from the US to China and left billion in crumbling infrastructure here. Can’t be too much effort to pack up and move again…

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 06:44:46

But the infrastructure they left here was old. The infrastructure they built in China is brand new state-of-the-art.

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Comment by Chris D.
2010-08-19 07:00:59

Exactly. If pressed, China will threaten confiscation or the closure of its market to any manufacturers who attempt to flee in a big way. (It’s either that or face civil unrest.) And no Asian economy will allow U.S. made goods to be imported without major tariffs. This whole scheme works as a one-way street to sucker the stupid American politician and the short-sighted American shareholder.

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-08-19 07:12:45

New projects will go elsewhere.

 
Comment by yensoy
2010-08-19 10:44:22

Confiscation is a big word. The mere talk of confiscation will make all foreign companies think twice - more damage than good.

What they do excel at however is bureaucracy - they probably invented it. So they will make the process of closing shop - firing workers, stripping and exporting machinery etc very time consuming and expensive, even punitive, for the company without resorting to outright confiscation.

 
Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-19 11:09:08

I’m sure the facilities built in China are of excellent quality. In the end, it’s a building. They can move the industrial equipment around.

Still wouldn’t mind a robot arm myself.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-08-19 11:15:33

Meh. At the risk of disagreeing with Combo, my vote is easy come, easy go.

If the new Chinese infrastructure really was that state-of-the-art (i.e. advanced automation) we could have just as easily done it here. Automation is becoming dirt cheap here as well as anywhere (I should know, it’s my business).

It’s all the manual labor and cheap second-sourced parts that moved things to China. It’s not that hard to fold up all the tables, chairs, racks, fixtures, etc. and move them elsewhere when the Chinese labor force inevitably wants a bigger share of the profitable manufacturing pie.

 
 
 
Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 07:32:33

“What? And leave all hundreds of billions of dollars they invested in infrastructure to the Chineese?”

IIRC China doesn’t allow complete foreign ownership. So American multinationals commonly rent or contract out the factories. Many will still be leaving big money on the table, however, but its probably nowhere near the entire cost of the factory.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-19 07:34:19

“…and leave all hundreds of billions of dollars they invested in infrastructure to the Chinese?”

Combo, those are known as sunk costs and a smart company doesn’t look back. Their decisions are (or should be) based on the plan that provides the lowest cost to produce from now forward.

 
 
Comment by packman
2010-08-19 07:21:13

Rising wage and production costs in China are eating into the profits of Western companies and may soon set off an exodus of multinational companies to cheaper locations. ~ Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Awesome. Let “The Great Leveling” begin. Hopefully this will mean less offshoring from the U.S. in the long run.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-08-19 10:02:40

Don’t hold your breath. There are plenty of cheap labor countries left for these pigmen to exploit. This game can go on for centuries.

Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 11:29:26

Then it would behoove states to offer huge tax advantages to bring it back. The Feds. could kick in some breaks too. I’m sure its feasible in Alabama, Mississippi, etc.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:09:08

My vote is for coastal Mississippi. Real go-getters who’d be thrilled to have the work.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:57:04

States have been offering tax incentives for decades. That didn’t do anything but hurt their tax base and raise the taxes for everyone else and the companies STILL moved offshore.

So thanks for volunteering my money to create lower wages and higher taxes, but I’ll pass.

 
 
 
Comment by Elanor
2010-08-19 10:12:47

Long run indeed. There are still an awful lot of Third World countries with cheap labor forces to be run through before manufacturing returns to these shores.

Comment by packman
2010-08-19 10:41:39

Any of those countries got a population of 1.3 billion people?

Or do even the sum total of those countries have such a population?

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Comment by yensoy
2010-08-19 10:53:29

And before any of you say “India” let me assure you Indian labour is not cheap. Mainly because they have rights and they choose to exercise them whenever they can.

Anyway the thing going for China is not just labour. That is one factor and a rapidly diminishing one. Here are the others:
1. Scale: Say you want one million pairs of shoes before the superbowl - do you think a mishmash of factories across a bunch of countries can deliver?
2. Supply chain: Where’re your shoelaces, rivets, soles, adhesives, plastics, dyes, machinery etc going to come from? It’s a lot more convenient when your suppliers are within a 10km radius.
3. Logistics: How do you get all our products shipped out reliably?
4. Local market: This is a big one these days - you know the locals also love these shoes and would absolutely buy it at premium prices?

Other factors include experience (workforce, management), input costs like power, water etc, design smarts (yes you can get the artwork, packaging and design done by the Chinese too) that tip the balance in favour of the Chinese.

 
 
 
 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-08-19 10:00:12

“Rising wage and production costs in China are eating into the profits of Western companies and may soon set off an exodus of multinational companies to cheaper locations. ~ Ambrose Evans-Pritchard”

I love it. If only there were no cheap labor countries left for these economic terrorists.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 16:58:27

That’s what coup d’ tats are for.

 
 
Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:23:50

IMHO you can never be the “low cost” manufacturer for very long.

Years ago it was Japan, then Hong Kong, then Taiwan, now China…..soon it will be Vietnam, then some other Far East country.

I always wondered about the Chinese plan of gearing up for major manufacturing, it seemed to me they were setting themselves up to get stuck with a lot of capacity and not much internal demand to support it if the manufacturers left.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 10:38:46

“Years ago it was Japan, then Hong Kong, then Taiwan, now China…..soon it will be Vietnam, then some other Far East country.”

Don’t forget about Africa.

 
Comment by packman
2010-08-19 10:48:35

Already happening in Vietnam. My son’s bed, that I bought a few months ago, was made there.

Same for Indonesia - they already do a lot of U.S. manufacturing.

About the only area left is Africa. Problem is they seem to have… issues … with political stability.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:11:21

About the only area left is Africa. Problem is they seem to have… issues … with political stability.

Tell me about it!

A college friend, name’s Keith Richburg, was the Washington Post’s bureau chief in Africa during the 1990s. He wrote a book called Out of America, which recounted his experiences as a black man in Africa. Quite an eye-opener, to say the least.

With regards from your HBB Librarian…

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Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 19:44:29

Correction: Years ago it was Japan, then Hong Kong, then Taiwan, now China…..soon it will be Vietnam, then the country with the lowest paid groveling slaves? The United States.

Comment by robin
2010-08-19 22:59:43

Ouch, Exeter!!

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:15:02

Pinstripe protectionism at PIMCO
By: Timothy P. Carney
Examiner Columnist
08/18/10 12:30 PM PDT

“Protectionist” is an attack usually thrown at those who advocate tariffs or import restrictions. I use it more broadly to refer to those who call for government interference in order to preserve a current or recent economic arrangement.

For instance, President Bush’s 2008 bailouts were protectionism — pinstripe protectionism, to be precise.

This week, at President Obama’s housing summit, we saw some more pinstripe protection — this time from Bill Gross, head of PIMCO, the nation’s largest bond company.

In the Bloomberg interview below, Gross states that we need to make Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac government agencies because now Americans know that home value can go down, and if folks don’t forget that, “the private market will not function the same way as it has over the past 10 or 20 years.”

Imagine that — a market functioning differently in one decade than in another! Call in the government!

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:04:28

Remember, consumer rights bad; legalized theft by big business, good.

 
Comment by rms
2010-08-19 17:23:03

And you assumed Herr Gross stood for unfettered capitalism?

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-19 05:22:39

Ahmed Mouse?

Muslim employee: Disney banned her head scarf
By GILLIAN FLACCUS The Associated Press
Posted: 6:00 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2010

ANAHEIM, Calif. — A Muslim woman who works as a hostess at a Disneyland restaurant alleged Wednesday the theme park would not allow her to appear in front of customers while wearing her head scarf.

Imane Boudlal, 26, appeared outside the resort’s Grand Californian Hotel after filing a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

She said when she wore the hijab to work Sunday, her supervisors told her to remove it, work where customers couldn’t see her, or go home.

Boudlal, who wore the scarf in observance of Ramadan, chose to go home but reported to work for the next two days and was told the same thing.

“Miss Boudlal has effectively understood that they’re not interested in accommodating her request either in timing or good faith,” said Ameena Qazi, an attorney from the Council on American-Islamic Relations who is consulting with Boudlal.

Disneyland spokeswoman Suzi Brown said Disney has a policy not to discriminate. The resort offered Boudlal a chance to work with the head covering away from customers while Disneyland tries to find a compromise that would allow Boudlal to cover her head in a way that fits with her hostess uniform, Brown said.

“Typically, somebody in an on-stage position like hers wouldn’t wear something like that, that’s not part of the costume,” Brown said. “We were trying to accommodate her with a backstage position that would allow her to work. We gave her a couple of different options and she chose not to take those and to go home.”

Boudlal, who is a native of Morocco, has worked at the Storyteller restaurant at the hotel for 2½ years but only realized she could wear her hijab to work after studying for her U.S. citizenship exam in June, Qazi said.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 06:27:53

“Typically, somebody in an on-stage position like hers wouldn’t wear something like that, that’s not part of the costume

“…A Muslim woman who works as a hostess at a Disneyland restaurant”

Disney,…you’re not a “worker/hostess”, …you’re an “Actor!” ;-)

“These f@!king Guys!,” Jon Stewart.

When the Disney CORPORATION bought the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA, they fired the “worker” who was the Ships Captain, seems he had a beard for the job for twenty five years, but like the “workers” at the “Grand Canyon” you can’t have beard/facial hair. (Hwy wonders if it’s like “Actors in Hollywood, more compensation $$$$ if you utter any “words”)

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 07:53:10

Disney,…you’re not a “worker/hostess”, …you’re an “Actor!”

That has been Disney’s stance with its themeparks going all the way back to 1955. They have always had a fairly strict appearance code for employees (cast members) who appear “on stage” (where they can be seen by customers). So if you’re selling popcorn from a cart you are “on stage”. Even janitors (John Lassiter, of Pixar fame, once worked as a Disneyland janitor) are conidered “on stage castmembers”. FWIW these standards have been relaxed somewhat during the past decade.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 10:30:14

I took the “Keys to the kingdom” tour at DisneyWorld and as they toured us through the utilidor (underground tunnel) I remember the posters by wardrobe showing what sorts of facial hair and adornments cast members could and could not have.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 07:54:58

That’s kind of weird. I mean, they didn’t make the 7 dwarves shave their beards, right?

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 10:09:23

No, they made them GROW beards. Facial hair depends on your role.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-19 12:11:28

I didn’t think that the dwaves were “faces.”

 
 
 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 13:54:01

All Capts. have beards.

Comment by robin
2010-08-19 23:21:56

Was a bartender for 4 years at the Disneyland Hotel. Very strict corporate culture. Worth it. Better wages for some compromise. Your choice. Simple. Loved my time there. Helped me get my MBA - :)

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Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-19 11:17:44

Here in Virginia Beach CBN and their related companies are said to require employees to sign a paper saying they are Christian. Or else no job. Beat that.

IMHO, religion is stupid. The sooner it’s a footnote in history, the better.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 14:42:25

FWIW, I don’t think you’d want to work at CBN unless you are a fundy or at least an evang.

 
Comment by bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-19 17:13:38

I agree. Their loss though. Either they must draw from a pool of liars or they block themselves out of getting talented employees who bare not “C”

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 12:11:26

A Muslim woman who works as a hostess at a Disneyland restaurant alleged Wednesday the theme park would not allow her to appear in front of customers while wearing her head scarf.

Bummer.

While you’re at it, take out all your piercings and hide your tattoos or find a job where the company doesn’t mind them.

 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 13:47:34

I paid a LOT of money to spend time at Disneyland with my family and I must admit I want to see the characters look true to form. That doesn’t include a hijab.

And no, I’m not racist, biased, a bigot or anything else. That’s what I paid for.

Now Disney can make a film with lots of different religious groups in it, then the problem is solved.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:07:21

Corporate dress code will win. One way or the other.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:22:55

* The Wall Street Journal
* REVIEW & OUTLOOK
* AUGUST 19, 2010

Barney to Fannie: Drop Dead

Wonder of wonders, miracle of miracles.

Barney Frank has been all over the airwaves this week with a clear and—we never thought we’d say this—perfectly sound message about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: “They should be abolished.”

Well, praise be. Two years ago next month, then Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson put the two government-sponsored mortgage-finance giants into conservatorship, and Congressman Frank declared himself pleased that there was a good chance, according to government bean-counters, that the rescue wouldn’t cost taxpayers a dime. Also at the time, Mr. Frank scoffed at the Bush Administration’s view that Fan and Fred should be wound down, saying it would never happen. One and a half trillion dimes ($149 billion) later, Mr. Frank appears to have seen the light.

We prefer no subsidy for homeownership, not least because the painful experience of the last 40 years is that such policies lead to boom and bust and awful economic harm. Canada has neither a Fannie Mae nor a mortgage-interest tax deduction, and yet its homeownership rate is higher than America’s. The homebuilder-Realtor-mortgage banker lobby will object, which is no doubt why Treasury chief Tim Geithner continued to call for some federal role in guaranteeing mortgages at his housing finance gabfest this week. But that road inevitably leads to the Son of Fannie.

The housing reform debate is only beginning, but for now we’ll associate ourselves with Mr. Frank’s view that if Congress wants to subsidize housing, it ought to do so directly out of annual appropriations, allocating dollars in open and transparent fashion against other priorities.

Comment by oxide
2010-08-19 06:30:59

Would the vaunted Wall Street Journal have the same opinion about preferring no subsidy for banks? You know, have their debate on open TV instead of gathering Paulson, Geither and BoA and those other banks in a smoke-filled room on a Sunday night, as happened in 2008?

By the way, Jon Stewart has been asking this question for over a year. Instead of bailing out the likes of AIG, why not just allocate dollars and transparently pay off everyone’s mortgage on the consumer end? Then all those other swaps and derivatives will be made whole concomitantly.

Oh right…the banks were too insolvent to pay off all those bets if they all came due at once…

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-08-19 07:38:59

‘why not just allocate dollars and transparently pay off everyone’s mortgage’

Or even better, have Bernanke put on a dress and wave a magic wand to make it all go away. At least then we’d get some entertainment out of it.

There are a lot of reasons why this won’t work. But here’s a couple; we’re talking many trillions of dollars. And even then, as these people eventually sell their houses and drive down the comps, there will be waves of future foreclosures. You’re back where you started from.

There just ain’t a quick fix to the price thing, even though our politicians, pundits and society constantly yearn for one.

Here’s something interesting about the big ‘housing summit’ ; has anyone heard the words housing bubble mentioned? Gee, you might think it would come up…

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 07:57:20

Booo! I want my August Surprise!

“August Surprise” sounds like an icre cream flavor.

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Comment by packman
2010-08-19 08:06:07

There was no housing bubble - it just got a little . . . “sudsy”.

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-08-19 11:18:06

I thought the term was “frothy”, no?

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:42:56

Why does everyone want to quickly allocate someone-else’s dollars as a solution to a problem?

If people paid more attention to prudently allocating their own dollars, there would be no problem.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:35:05

Dirty little secret of political economy:

It is very hard to allocate dollars, or whatever your preferred numeraire wealth unit may be, to one group without taking it away from another one.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2010-08-19 09:01:09

If only Christina Romer had answered Stewart as clearly as you did.

The other reason is: if the gov just paid the principal and no interest, the banks would go down tomorrow. If the gov paid interest, the gov would go down tomorrow.

And don’t forget the HUGE and visible moral hazard. Smart renters would take torches and pitchforks to the White House.

My suggestion is the same as it always was: make mortgage debt partially dischargable in BK — a cram-down with strings. Only for primary res etc…

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Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:32:30

Smart renters would take torches and pitchforks to the White House.

Renters are in the minority (<35% of the population).

I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if principal forgiveness is next on the agenda - probably mid-2011.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:36:29

“…principal forgiveness…”

1. Who would pay for it?

2. If that is where they are headed, then why wasn’t it on this week’s Housing Summit agenda?

 
Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 14:03:55

1. Who would pay for it?

Any number of ways: nationwide VAT tax, the creation of some new security that the Fed would purchase with printed money, a 401(k) tax based on undistributed assets, poll tax, tire tax, water tax, hamster tax……one of the mistakes people make is they think there is a finite number of shenanigans that our government can pull….there isn’t, it is infinite…..

2. If that is where they are headed, then why wasn’t it on this week’s Housing Summit agenda?

These guys (and gals) aren’t stupid. They need to have appeared to “exhaust all reasonable solutions to the housing crisis” before they propose it. Just as long as the banks don’t take the hit.

 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 15:59:14

It doesn’t matter if renters are only at 35%. There’s another 35% of home owners. Thats a high enough percentage to go on the rampage.

 
 
 
Comment by Steamed Bean
2010-08-19 08:48:06

Because Goldman’s short mortgage trades wouldn’t have been worth anything if they paid for borrowers losses.

 
 
 
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Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 07:42:29

Strange story. Odd that the squatters would clean the pool and do minor yard maintenance, but stole their electricity and had no water service.

The whole experience seems to have served as a wake up call to the bank/owner, sitting on their shadow inventory.

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:24:28

Here are the pics of the trashed house: make note of the granite countertops underneath all of the filth.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-photos-ocoee-squatter-house,0,324834.photogallery

Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 11:36:25

Thanks, Pressboard. Those clear up the lingering question of why the squatters had their kids taken away. I feel bad for that poor dog too.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:13:23

What is it with these people? I mean, come on. You’re squatting, but can’t you at least do the dishes and pick up after yourselves? (Sheesh, Slim! You sound like my mother!)

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2010-08-19 15:18:23

Those squatters are pretty mild compared to these guys:

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/1800887/

(NOT for the faint at heart, or anyone who’s eating. There are pictures, and they aren’t nice at all.)

This is going on in the foreclosure wastelands of Phoenix.

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Comment by palmetto
2010-08-19 08:38:23

I suspect, but don’t know for sure, that the neighborhood I passed by the other day in the Ruskin (Tampa Bay) area has a number of squatters. It will be interesting to see what happens. At one point when I was looking for a place to rent a couple of years back, there were two infestors that I spoke to who owned property in there. When I found out where the rentals were, I gave it a big passadena. Not only do I want to live (someone had shot into one of the duplexes a few years ago), I’d like to hang on to my possessions.

What was interesting about the bubble around here was how marginal properties briefly skyrocketed in value. And then crashed and burned.

 
Comment by rusty
2010-08-19 09:49:48

Makes sense to clean the pool, if your AC is not working, you need a place to cool off :-)

 
Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-19 11:33:43

They might not be able to get the electrical turned on without getting into some identity theft and such. If the prior owner was way behind, perhaps the util was demanding bringing it current.

 
 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-19 20:06:01

“Wright said LCH Associates probably would have passed on what is now a serious fixer-upper if it had known about the situation.”

A lack of due diligence.

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 05:34:09

500k initial jobless claims: The jobless recovery is getting good.

Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-19 06:14:26

I saw an article in the sacbee yesterday that mcdonalds was hiring.They had 40 year old with degrees lining up for work.So much for the stimulous money making it to the avg joe.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-19 08:04:46

I saw an article in the sacbee yesterday that mcdonalds was hiring.They had 40 year old with degrees lining up for work

Well I hope they were professional or graduate degrees. These days McDonalds doesn’t just hire anybody.

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:31:41

I noticed locally that the fast-food employees seem like they are more efficient than in recent past. Two friends of mine who previously had better jobs are now working at McDonalds and I would consider these people hard-working, intelligent folks. The writing on the wall: Look out pierced-lip, tattooed, baggy-pants wearing apethetic losers, NOBODY is ever going to hire you. - shape up!

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Comment by nycjoe
2010-08-19 10:22:16

They can all work in tattoo shops, inking each other up for eternity. They’ve got skin in that game, for sure.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:15:09

The writing on the wall: Look out pierced-lip, tattooed, baggy-pants wearing apethetic losers, NOBODY is ever going to hire you. - shape up!

Ummm, not so fast there, press!

Yesterday evening, I was at a community meeting on public safety. A very tattooed young member of our fire department was one of the presenters. He talked about fire prevention, and, dang he was GOOD!

So, don’t judge a book by its cover.

 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 16:22:48

Most McDonalds do not hire highly educated people, because they know they won’t stick around.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2010-08-19 18:26:41

I don’t think anybody sticks around McDonalds for long.

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 12:33:37

. These days McDonalds doesn’t just hire anybody.

I remember ten years or so ago, fast food places having to offer $10+/hr on the east coast because they couldn’t find enough people.

How things have changed…

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-08-19 09:57:27

I read Kohls is opening a store in Northern NV. They had 3500 people show up to a job fair for 130 part time low wage jobs with no benefits.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 10:43:46

“I read Kohls is opening a store in Northern NV. They had 3500 people show up to a job fair for 130 part time low wage jobs with no benefits.”

This sort of event has become distressingly common. We had an Embassy Suites open locally last year. Similar story: thousands showed up to apply for 100 menial jobs. And our local UE Rate is supposed to be less than 7%.

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Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-19 11:36:13

Suckers! Maybe the poor people can sell CBT courses on how to scam your way through life.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 06:14:47

Yes Its almost time for them to throw a hail mary pass and reduce everyone’s CC debt by $3000…..it will be a bone to the unwashed masses.

Comment by drumminj
2010-08-19 08:55:18

reduce everyone’s CC debt by $3000…..it will be a bone to the unwashed masses.

It’s been said here many times…

A lot of us don’t have CC debt. Just like I’m not happy to bail out banks, I’m not happy to bail out individuals who live above their means either.

I get that it would instantly put cash in people’s pockets that they’d likely spend. But it’s taking money that I could save or spend and simply giving it to others to spend frivolously. Sorry, but I won’t get behind that.

Comment by polly
2010-08-19 10:14:37

It is also, as I have said before, administratively impossible. Even if something is a good idea, if you can’t accomplish it, it won’t happen.

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Comment by nycjoe
2010-08-19 10:24:12

Yeah, like who exactly is fronting the dough to cover these balances? D’oh. Let em declare bankruptcy like all other responsible spendthrifts.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 13:11:05

Yes i know its not the greatest idea…but the time has come to get money to renters, and people who will spend it on necessities, and not to give another $50K tax free to help dumb homeOHnaz to stay out of foreclosure….

Of course I’ll bet lots of people would be glad to work for the money…just to have a little self worth in this economy…and a recent job on the resume…but then if a certain minority refuses to work, and gets cut off, the Aclu will be there to claim racism, just like katrina they had to import 15,000 illegals to clean up…because the 9th ward peeps had better things to do with their time

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-19 20:17:28

“because the 9th ward peeps had better things to do with their time”

I thought a lot of those folks were shipped out of town and not allowed back.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 23:25:45

Well happy…..I’d say more like if they came back they had to work….cant do that to the poor unfortunate spend my $2000 guvmint card on lap dances crowd.

Notice Jesse and Sharpton were no where to be found in demanding they be given the clean up jobs first?

 
 
 
Comment by jbunniii
2010-08-19 16:03:44

Absolutely horrible idea. Besides being unfair to everyone else, bailing people out of debt encourages them to go right back into debt.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-19 06:33:04

Obama says economy coming back in backyard chat

By BEN FELLER The Associated Press
Posted: 3:06 a.m. Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2010

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Admittedly wary of losing touch, President Barack Obama returned to the comfort of backyard politics on Wednesday, assuring a polite gathering of middle-class neighbors that the economy is coming around “slowly but surely.”

“Slowly but surely we are moving in the right direction,” Obama said of the economy. “We’re on the right track.”

Comment by cobaltblue
2010-08-19 07:24:36

“Slowly but surely we are moving in the right direction,” Obama said of the economy. “We’re on the right track.”

If you want the express train to Hell, you’re on the right track alright.

The hopelessly out of touch Obama and his elitist echelons want you to believe that having 100 lbs of their BS shoved down your throat is something to look forward to.

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-08-19 07:35:49

Wonder if he included one of the many revisions of his worn out talking point.

When you want the car to move forward, you shift the car into D (Democrat). When you want the car to move in reverse and back into the ditch(recession), you shift the car into R (Republican).

The democrats put thier shoulders into it and pushed the car out of the muddy ditch. They (the Republicans) are complaining about the dents and want us to hand them back the keys.

Now the Republicans can sit in the car if they want to, but I’m not going to let them sit behind the steering wheel.

When your teenager with his or her new license crashes the car into a ditch, what do you do? You take the car away.

 
 
Comment by packman
2010-08-19 07:24:37

500k initial jobless claims

Not sure what people expected to happen after the Fed finished pumping $1.7 Trillion into the economy; an economy that in no way shape or form has legs of its own to stand on yet. Personally I expected exactly this.

(Which is why I’ve been in cash mostly still)

Anyone even remotely surprised by this is a fool.

Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:37:41

So what do you think the Fed response will be?

I expect at least another $2 trillion in QE by the Fed in 2011, although I could be understating it by a wide margin…..

Comment by packman
2010-08-19 11:12:56

Probably more of what I suspect has been happening already - the bond markets simply being manipulated by the PTB. There’s a *huge* treasury bond market bubble going on right now. Where the heck is all this money coming from? If it was coming from stocks, it seems like the market would be at about 6k now, not 10k. No, I think there’s buying going on under the hood - by the U.S. Fed and/or other countries’ central banks. Shadow QE.

This is serving to keep real interest rates extremely low, which is in turn keeping the housing market from tanking further.

To sum - I think they’ve given up on doing any significant announced activities, simply because they don’t want a panic. But they’re still doing various activities, just under the hood now.

Maybe.

If not - then I have no clue.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 07:58:57

“500k initial jobless claims: The jobless recovery is getting good.”

Si se puede!

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:15:03

EXACTLY like the last 6 recessions. Less jobs and less pay as a permanent result.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:45:07

SPOILER ALERT: Those familiar with U.S. ag policy are likely aware that every few years, a similar debate about reducing or eliminating government subsidies plays out in the ag policy arena. To great fanfare, politicians line up behind proposals to eliminate protectionist ag subsidies, noting that it will take quite some time to accomplish their proposal. A few years later, after almost all voters have forgotten the proposed subsidy reduction, nothing has changed regarding farm subsidies.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for govt housing subsidies to go away, as it is quite easy to muster the political will to start a large-scale federal subsidy program, while nearly impossible to end one.

The Atlantic Home
Thursday, August 19, 2010

Joshua Green - Joshua Green is a senior editor of The Atlantic and a weekly political columnist for the Boston Globe.

Making Big Government a Little Smaller
Aug 18 2010, 9:31 PM ET

For those not busy fleeing or fanning the flames of the Ground Zero mosque controversy, the week’s big political event was a conference at the Treasury Department about the future of housing finance. Washington will soon make some big decisions that will go a long way toward determining who gets to own a house and how much they’ll have to pay for it.

More than any other sector of the economy — even banking or automobiles–the federal government dominates housing. After the collapse two years ago, it rescued the housing market by essentially nationalizing the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at a cost to taxpayers of $148 billion and counting. Today, Wall Street is back on its feet and automakers like GM are turning a profit. But government agencies still back 95 percent of new mortgages.

That’s not ideal for anyone. Critics who prefer private markets fault the Obama administration for its continued involvement, while the bailout-weary White House would like nothing better than to satisfy them. But figuring out how government should extract itself and how the system should be remade is a challenge so daunting that it was left out of the financial reforms that President Obama recently signed into law. Along with difficult questions of policy, overhauling the $11 trillion mortgage market involves confronting the most charged political issue in Washington: the proper size of government and its role in the economy. This is what a group of luminaries from government, business, and academia undertook at the Treasury.

Ordinarily, liberals favor government and conservatives the free market, and it is along these ideological lines that the debate has played out on political and business cable channels. Since most conservatives would dissolve Frannie and Freddie, and most liberals would grudgingly allow them to, these agencies would not seem long for this world.

But at the conference, ideological purity yielded to practical self interest. It’s an indicator of just how damaged the housing sector remains that the expected roles were reversed. Shaun Donovan, secretary of Housing and Urban Development, insisted that government had to shrink its ”footprint,” and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner declared, ”This administration will side with those who want fundamental change.”

Meanwhile, any proposal entailing government’s rapid departure from the mortgage market aroused nervousness, and even alarm, in the assembled financiers. Bill Gross, co-founder of the bond fund Pacific Investment Management Company, implored the government to keep its mortgage guarantee in place and pass another round of fiscal stimulus to prop up housing prices. Without that guarantee, Gross warned, consumer rates would skyrocket as the risk of lending fell entirely on the market.

But the clearest glimpse of the long road ahead came during a discussion on how to manage the transition from the government-dominated market to a private one. No one could quite envision how such a transition would occur, but they did agree that it would take many years — some thought a generation.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 06:44:53

Gross warned, consumer rates would skyrocket as the risk of lending fell entirely on the market.

:-)

No one could quite envision how such a transition would occur, but they did agree that it would take many years — some thought a generation.

“Long-Term Capital” Investment scheme gone bust…score: ;-)

Bungee-cord Theory = 1
Rope-around-the-Throat = 0

That’s just the way it’s gonna be Mr. Bear / Packy…Cantankerous

If the Fed does eventually have to move, most economists believe it will have to do so in very bold fashion…the consensus seems to be that the US central bank would once again want to strike with overwhelming force

I’m just a sittin’ & a waitin’…just a sittin’ & a waitin’… :-)

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 09:04:44

What’s most confusing is how uber-liberal sites like Fire Dog Lake support uber-capitalist Bill Gross in these matters.

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/08/18/pimcos-bill-gross-blows-up-the-housing-finance-conference-by-promoting-mass-mortgage-refinancing/

I’m so confused.

Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 10:40:27

What’s most confusing is how uber-liberal sites like Fire Dog Lake support uber-capitalist Bill Gross in these matters.

Because it helps the “poor homeowners” who got into this mess through no fault of their own……

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:21:07

Oh, brother. Don’t get me started on the uber-liberal sites like Firedog, Kos, and HuffyPo.

Every time I read a housing story, it seems to follow this pattern:

1. “House prices are falling! (No mention of the bubble that preceded these falling prices.)
2. “We must stop the foreclosures now!” (With no mention made of the increasing number of strategic defaults by homeowners.)

I’ve also heard this sort of reporting on NPR, and it makes me crazy.

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Comment by JohnF
2010-08-19 15:47:45

Welcome to Bizarro World, where liberals cheer on the oligarchs (and those that enable them)…..

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by skroodle
2010-08-19 05:48:25

Catching up on my HBB reading, I saw CIBT posted this the other day. For those that have seen “million dollar listing”, the agent on this deal is none other than the doofus with the stupid bowel haircut and the foo-foo dog Chad Rogers. The Hilton he works for is the father of Paris (and grandson of Conrad I believe). Its too early to do the math, but his commission on this shortsell is more than I will make for the next many years.

WSJ Blogs Developments Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal * August 17, 2010, 10:02 AM ET

Wells Fargo ‘Party House’ Sold at 30% Off
By Juliet Chung

Accessories creators Bruce Makowsky and his wife, Kathy, have paid nearly $15 million for the bank-owned Malibu beach house that made waves last year for allegedly being used as a party house by a Wells Fargo executive.

The purchase price is nearly 30% less than its original $21.5 million asking price last September. The most recent asking price was $18 million.
“The house is spectacular and it’s on a gorgeous, beautiful beach,” said Mr. Makowsky, who is co-president of Van Zeeland, Inc., which includes the B. Makowsky handbag and shoe brands available at retailers including Macy’s and QVC.

Mr. Makowsky said he and his wife closed within seven days of seeing the home. “There aren’t a lot of homes that become available in that area,” he said. The couple’s primary residence is in Long Island, N.Y.; they plan to use the Malibu property as a vacation home. The publicity surrounding the house didn’t impact their interest or decision to buy, Mr. Makowsky added.

Wells Fargo later fired the employee, Cheronda Guyton, who dealt with foreclosed properties; the home had belonged to Madoff victims.

The four-bedroom, contemporary home is located in the guard-gated Malibu Colony area and has walls of glass that look onto the Pacific. The roughly 3,800-square-foot home has a double-height living area, decks and terraces and an open floor plan on the first level. Chad Rogers of Hilton>/b> and Hyland, a Christie’s Great Estates affiliate, was on both sides of the deal.

Comment by In Montana
2010-08-19 06:13:53

stupid bowel haircut

what the hey - ?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 06:52:39

The couple’s primary residence is in Long Island, N.Y.; they plan to use the Malibu property as a vacation home.

Let me guess, they don’t personally use StubHub to get tickets for the Yankee’s vs Red Sox games. ;-)

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 08:39:41

Hiding in plain sight in this story is a reason why engineering isn’t an option for American kids anymore.

A useless guy designs lady’s purses, outsources the manufacturing thereof to sweatshops in Asia, and can afford fancy places in Long Island and Malibu.

A hard-working guy gets degrees in EE, designs cutting edge technology products, and gets paid pennies on the dollar when compared with the useless purse designer.

Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-19 09:02:30

Any engineer worth his salt should be able to look at the world and see things that he or she could build that would make the world a better place, and start his or her own company to make it so. After he’s created a successful company, he could then join mr purse designer in Malibu.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 10:54:29

Designing the next great widget or piece of software in your garage is a thing of the past. And the worst thing about software is that there are teams of nutjobs who write great software and give it away for free.

It takes a bit if capital to start a company now. Most engineers I know who run “companies” out of their homes are consultants and contractors.

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Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-19 12:30:48

It takes a bit of capital to make purses out of your garage too.

It is not a thing of the past. It’s simply hard work. Fortunately, Arduino chipsets and kits are making at home engineering projects easier. Look it up and see the great integrated products people have made with these kits.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:33:13

It is not a thing of the past. It’s simply hard work. Fortunately, Arduino chipsets and kits are making at home engineering projects easier. Look it up and see the great integrated products people have made with these kits.

My father’s an engineer. Has a lab in the basement of my parents’ house, and he’s doing carbon sequestration research.

I’ve been working with him on bringing it to the attention of the federal government. Looks like his process works on the bench-top scale, and he needs to have it tested on a larger scale.

In short, Slim-Dad’s doing Big Science in the basement. Or, as he likes to say, “It can be done!”

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 12:54:24

And the worst thing about software is that there are teams of nutjobs who write great software and give it away for free.

Forest, not trees.

Other nutjobs take that free software and make things that earn billions (Google, YouTube, Facebook, Flickr, etc.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:21:40

How many companies have you tried to start, Overdog?

It is far, FAR easier said than done.

Secondly, ever heard of IP theft? It happens EVERY day. So your engineer with the good idea now has to not only have the capital to start his business (which is a lot more capital intensive than stitching cloth together) but also have enough money to defend his idea when it’s stolen. Not IF, but when.

That’s why.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:25:36

Oh! I forgot the most important thing! Just because you have a good idea and enough money to start a business… doesn’t mean squat.

You have NO idea how many good ideas have been abandoned because people actually preferred the inferior alternative or the inferior alternative had more backing.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:49:08

The Associated Press August 18, 2010, 4:18PM ET
Fitch: Largest US banks could lose up to $42B
NEW YORK

Fitch Ratings said Wednesday the four largest U.S. banks could book losses of up to $42 billion if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac force them to take back troubled mortgages they originated.

Fitch estimates that JPMorgan Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc., Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. could record $17 billion in losses if they repurchase a quarter of the mortgage giants’ seriously delinquent loans. In the worst case, they could lose $42 billion if the government-sponsored entities force them to buy back half of their bad loans.

Investors that buy loans from banks have the right to force lenders to repurchase them if there were lies on the loan applications. Recently, Fannie and Freddie have actively done this for $354.5 billion worth of bad mortgages. As a result, these banks have started to beef up their cash reserves recently to absorb the losses.

Fitch’s estimates only include Fannie’s and Freddie’s troubled loans and don’t account for private investors or mortgage insurers, which also could force loan buybacks.

Comment by packman
2010-08-19 07:27:40

Wow - great find.

This to me is the really big untold bailout - nice to see some actual figures on it. The whole “TARP repayment” thing was just a huge red herring - some nice window dressing.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:51:32

I wouldn’t call $1,000,000,000,000 a “red herring.”

Comment by packman
2010-08-19 18:33:34

???

You do realize that most of the banks have repayed their portion of the TARP, right? JPM, GS, Citi, WF owe exactly zero on the TARP, not $1T. Not to mention that TARP never was $1T to start with. Projections are for it to be about $117 Billion.

They all repaid their portions because they were supposedly “healthy”. Um… yeah.

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Comment by neuromance
2010-08-19 19:28:35

They repaid their TARP money because their executives couldn’t be paid corporate looting level salaries while taking money from TARP.

Pay back the TARP funds and it’s back to Gilded Age salaries.

 
Comment by packman
2010-08-20 04:30:51

Yes, exactly.

Meanwhile the real bailout, as we see, is behind the scenes at the Fed.

 
 
 
 
Comment by packman
2010-08-19 07:29:59

(also keeping in mind we’re only talking about the *current* loans - this doesn’t include the ones that went bad in the 2 years or so since the Fed started purchasing these MBS)

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 08:39:40

Megabanks = Enron
Geithner (Stress Tests) = Arthur Anderson signoff
Solvency of banks = Mirage
Recovery = Big Lie engineered to support Mirage
MSM = Co-conspiritor in Big Lie
America = Screwed by its own Greed

Those who saw it coming (us) but were powerless to be heard = the only true victims…

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:53:44

You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:57:31

“It’s not a housing subsidy, it’s a federal mortgage guarantee.”

With Government Mortgage Guarantees, Risk Retention Isn’t Needed

Aug 18 2010, 11:18 AM ET

At the Treasury’s Conference on the Future of Housing Finance yesterday, it was pretty clear that government guarantees for mortgages aren’t going anywhere. As mentioned before, it’s easy to figure out how this story ends. When affordable housing advocates, Main Street, and Wall Street are all on the same page, taxpayers don’t stand a chance. So as long as the government continues guaranteeing mortgages through some Fannie- or Freddie-like government-sponsored entity (GSE), it can dictate what kinds of mortgages it will accept. This makes bank risk retention unnecessary for those loans.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 07:04:19

So as long as the government continues guaranteeing mortgages through some…government-sponsored entity (GSE), it can dictate what kinds of…

Now, now, what’s left to “vector” digital denominations of $100,000 / $300,000 / $500,000 / $750,000+ “single transaction / deposits”… x10’s of millions of clients across the whole Nation / Globe? ;-)

Green energy?
Hybrid Automobiles?
Surgical “enhancements”?
latest “diet” miracle program?
Gold!?
GM?

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 05:59:25

Did Romer perhaps see this coming?

U.S. ECONOMY
Initial claims tip 500,000

First-time filings for unemployment benefits deliver a surprise, returning to levels of last November.

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 07:43:38

But how can this be? Barry & Plugs Bite-Me keep saying they are creating and saving jobs. Why just last week between golf rounds and vacations Barry said things were looking up on the jobs front. “Although there is still work to be done”.

Stocks fall after claims for unemployment benefits rise unexpectedly.

NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell Thursday after the Labor Department said claims for unemployment benefits rose unexpectedly last week, renewing concerns about the pace of the economic recovery.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 10:28:27

Could it be that the politicians are exaggerating the benefit of the actions and downplaying the consequences? SAY IT AIN’T SO!

When the revolution comes, the politicians should precede the lawyers up against the wall.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-19 11:14:36

1. Wall Street bankers
2. Politicians
3. Lawyers who are neither of the above.

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Comment by WantsOut
2010-08-19 12:19:07

Ya gotta fit insurers in there somewhere, no?

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 13:00:55

Load them all on the “B” spaceship along with the telephone sanitizers.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:55:43

And the flacks.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:56:57

Unexpected?

I’m still batting 1000!

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 06:19:26

Screw the initial claims figure — the Bundesbank has raised their GDP forecast. Go buy some U.S. stocks to celebrate!

INDICATIONS
Blindsided by claims jump

Increase in jobless claims erases bulls’ earlier hopes of extending Street’s win streak to three.

Indications

Aug. 19, 2010, 7:30 a.m. EDT
Stock futures move higher ahead of weekly jobless claims
By Aude Lagorce, MarketWatch

LONDON (MarketWatch) — U.S. stock futures pointed to a higher opening Thursday after Germany’s central bank unexpectedly hiked its domestic GDP growth forecast and as investors awaited earnings reports from tech giants Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Inc.

Futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA 10,416, +9.69, +0.09%) rose 48 points to 10,400 and S&P 500 (SPX 1,094, +1.62, +0.15%) futures gained 5.5 points to 1,092.20.

Nasdaq 100 futures climbed 9.5 points to 1,846.25.

U.S. stock futures got a boost after Germany’s Bundesbank lifted its domestic GDP growth forecast for the year and said it saw little chance of a double-dip recession in the U.S.

GDP will increase by about 3% in 2010, the Bundesbank said in its monthly bulletin. In June it predicted a 1.9% increase.

The major drive this morning is definitely the Bundesbank raising their GDP forecast. It’s the kind of news that the market has been looking for, for a long time,” said Christian Tegllund Blaabjerg, chief equity strategist at Saxo Bank.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 10:32:04

In this corner, rosy Bundesbank GDP Prediction, in the other corner, new Jobless Claims. Ready? FIGHT!

It’s a left, a right, another left! Jobless claims is really coming out swinging. It looks like OH MY GOODNESS! BUNDESBANK IS DOWN! 89 SECONDS INTO THE BOUT AND BUNDESBANK GOES DOWN! Folks, it doesn’t look like Bundesbank is getting up… and yes, the Ref has called the match for Jobless Claims!

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:26:14

The DJIA is down for the count…

 
 
 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 07:19:43

We NEEED banks/bankers and the corporate elite. We NEEEEEED them.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 07:45:44

Warning!: You are entering the Federal Reserve PRIVATE CORPORATION building. Once inside you have NO citizen “civil rights” entitlements. Some examples as guidelines:

1. You CAN NOT ask for an “audit”
2. You CAN NOT inspect the printing press equipment
3. You CAN NOT inquire as to our “toilet paper” expenditures
4. You CAN NOT expect us to answer any “silly questions”
5. You CAN NOT remark about the buildings “smell”
6.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 10:27:10

Every bankster job saved equals 50,000 sheeple jobs apparently.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 17:58:34

We NEEED banks/bankers and the corporate elite. We NEEEEEED them.

You got a problem with that, commie?!

 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-19 07:38:15

A colleague of mine was in Vegas a couple weeks ago. He reported back that the place was “dead” on the Saturday night he was there.

Somehow I don’t believe most of the posts here about businesses being dead, but I believe the ones who have no clear motive (or hope) that businesses are dead. So I believe my colleague.

Comment by palmetto
2010-08-19 08:41:23

I can report that the Home Depot in this area appears to be doing pretty well. Always traffic there. Maybe not crazy busy traffic, but steady.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 09:52:55

But what are they buying? Minor items to make repairs or $2000 appliances?

 
Comment by nycjoe
2010-08-19 10:29:24

Here in Forest Hills, Queens, there are teams of workmen renovating a house or two on every block. SOLD and UNDER CONTRACT signs are as common as FOR SALE signs. It’s unbelievable. Prices have gone up since the peak, after a minor dip. Wake me when it’s over.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 14:48:31

Hey joe that happened last year in Sunnyside, lots of renovations and signs…all i quiet here now.. a few open houses but nothing like last year.

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Comment by TCM_guy
2010-08-20 09:49:02

The traffic at my local Lowe’s is business as usual. Very busy yesterday around 5:00 PM. I don’t know anybody who works there, so I don’t know how their sales compare from a year ago.

Houses that “sold” under auction earlier this summer are back on the auction block. Plus, additional previously no-for-sale houses are now for sale.

I don’t know how these two factoids make any sense together, but there it is.

 
 
Comment by jbunniii
2010-08-19 16:27:09

Not much visible sign of recession here in San Jose, nor has there been over the past few years. I find it baffling, but people’s shopping wherewithal does not seem to have waned in the least. Perhaps there’s more “window” shopping but less buying.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 07:46:08

Pension Fraud by New Jersey Is Cited by S.E.C.

Federal regulators accused the State of New Jersey of securities fraud on Wednesday for claiming it had been properly funding public workers’ pensions when it was not.

The Securities and Exchange Commission said the action was its first ever against a state, and only its second against any government over the handling of a public pension fund. The first was the city of San Diego. More may be in store; the agency announced in January that it had a special unit looking into public pension disclosures. The S.E.C. has been trying to assume more authority over municipal securities.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-19 08:22:37

Refresh my memory here. Which party won the NJ governor’s seat in the last election? And NOW the SEC is going after them?

Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 09:12:54

That’s right…… raise that victim flag. heheh.

Classic.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-19 11:17:09

Christie in office since January. Dems in office the prior 8 years.

“It’s Corzine’s fault.”

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Comment by Steamed Bean
2010-08-19 08:35:09

There are currently very few disclosure requirements for municipalities to issue securities. Municipalities also have great leeway in how they use government accounting standards. There is no requirement to use GAAP as corporations would. As a result, most municipalities/states could be accused of securities fraud if the SEC decides to make this an issue.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 07:47:37

US Homeowner Confidence Drops in Second Quarter
19 Aug 2010

U.S. homeowners were less confident about the value of their homes in the second quarter, with one-third believing home prices had not yet reached a bottom, real estate website Zillow.com said on Thursday.

Nevertheless, a significant number of homeowners said they planned to put their home up for sale in the next six months if they saw signs of a real estate market turnaround.

Homeowners were more pessimistic about the short-term future of home values in their local market than they had been in the previous three quarters, according to the Zillow Second Quarter Homeowner Confidence Survey.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 07:57:38

Nevertheless, a significant number of homeowners said they planned to put their home up for sale in the next six months if they saw signs of a real estate market turnaround.

And how do they define the word “turnaround”?

Back to the days of double-digit appreciations? Or a substantial reduction of inventory?

Neither is about to happen.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 10:42:05

“U.S. homeowners were less confident about the value of their homes in the second quarter, with one-third believing home prices had not yet reached a bottom, real estate website Zillow.com said on Thursday.

Nevertheless, a significant number of homeowners said they planned to put their home up for sale in the next six months if they saw signs of a real estate market turnaround.”

The ’significant number of homeowners’ mentioned in the second paragraph suggest the ‘one-third’ mentioned in the first are probably correct.

 
 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-08-19 07:54:41

Goldman Sachs sues Natixis in London High Court

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. investment bank Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News) has sued French investment bank Natixis (Paris:CNAT.PA - News) in London’s High Court over three credit derivative transactions, Natixis’s law firm, Stephenson Harwood, said.

The dispute centers around whether French investment bank Natixis can cancel a deal on three credit default swaps with Goldman, which is claiming damages for breach of contract.

A Goldman Sachs spokeswoman said on Thursday it had no comment to make on the situation, while Stephenson Harwood said Natixis would defend itself vigorously.

“We are preparing our defense. We are surprised that Goldman is suing us,” a spokesman for Stephenson Harwood said.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:02:05

Please keep us apprised. This sounds interesting.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 07:55:44

T-shirt seen in Yosemite, CA 1970’s: ;-)

Front: Go climb a rock!
Back: image of El Capitan

T-shirt seen in Anywhere, CA 2010’s:

Front: Go scale a mortgage!
Back: …here’s a rope!

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 07:56:11

Budget analysts see 2010 deficit at $1.3 trillion- AP

Congress’ budget analysts are estimating that this year’s federal deficit will exceed $1.3 trillion, slightly below last year’s total but still a huge ocean of red ink.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 11:45:35

Where is all this money going? Seriously!

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 17:19:38

“Where is all this money going?”

Wiki has a pie chart. The four largest slices are:

Social Security, 19.63% of the budget

Department of Defense, 18.74%

Unemployment, welfare, other manditory spending, 16.13%

Medicare, 12.79%

That’s over 67% of the budget right there.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 14:51:22

and not a dime for renters, or those who didn’t qualify for the 99 weeks

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 08:01:11

News about my bank:

After 12-year hiatus, Click back in banking business

And I have a story about Mr. Click: Many years ago, I worked at one of southern Arizona’s largest nonprofit organizations. And this guy, who never passes up a chance to have his charitable activities publicized, was on our board.

Among us peons, the running joke was: “Will Jim come to this month’s board meeting?” He seldom appeared, but, boy he loved having his name on our stationery.

Now, this latest bit of bank news doesn’t have me wanting to move my money quite yet, but he has a history of selling his local, indie-banks to the Big Bailout-Getting Banks.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-19 21:40:04

“If we can get new businesses started and get people back to work, we’re going to dig out of this recession,” Lewis said.

More charity work?

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 23:30:38

That’s about all you get anymore on CL…”intern” jobs plus they want you to have the latest wi fi laptop with LEGAL software and they just might buy you lunch
————————————-
More charity work?

 
 
 
Comment by cobaltblue
2010-08-19 08:17:58

Speaking of bubbles, consider the bond market:

As Debate Over Bond Bubble Rages On, Gold Surges To Highest Since July 1

As more and more pundits, and amateurs, debate the endless futility of the bond bubble, as in does one exist or are nominal rates, in addition to swap spreads, going negative, the one real asset - gold - is surging to highs last seen in early July. Of course the bond debate is silly: it merely indicates a flight to safety in a time when stocks continue to live in a fantasy neverland of “timid” inflation, when the reality is accelerating deflation for levered goods, and rising inflation for goods “for the rest of us.” As for those who never see a bond auction failure (and no, explaining the dynamics of a ponzi dutch auction is neither necessary nor sufficient), they will be absolutely correct- until they are wrong. And since we have gotten to a quantized state where even a rise in rates (due to the Fed’s stance on liquidity) is virtually equivalent to a failed auction, the distance from the base orbital to the energized level, to keep the quantum analogy, is far closer than most believe. But such is the way in a ponzi non-gold standard system, in which endless credit is chasing extremely finite cash flows. Ssince we have now moved past the point where incremental debt creation can fund viable, cash flow generating assets, any incremental debt serves no role save for window dressing. Whether or not there is a formal announcement by the UST of a failed auction is irrelevant. In the meantime, gold is brushing all these pointless discussions aside and doing its thing. However, gold likes to keep it complicated, and has once again inverted its 120 day correlation with stocks, hitting the lowest level since March 2009. In other words, if stocks are correlation to inflation, gold is now a deflation benefiting asset. Which is also wrong, as gold merely is seen increasingly as an alternative to the great alchemy experiment in the bottom of the 9th being conducted by the Central Banks of the world, which is the last hope to preserve the status quo. In other words, gold is merely the hedge to whether either side in the bond bubble debate is right.

From Zero Hedge

Comment by exeter
2010-08-19 11:11:54

Someones going get their schlong slammed in the door. I’ll wager it’s the gold bugs.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:06:25

I’ve said it before: if you’ve made a 100% profit on an investments, including fees and selling discounts, it’s time to SELL!

 
 
Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-19 08:23:38

Internet recently seems to be concentrating on reporting on the dumbing down of Americans! Here’s a couple of items:

Poll: Growing number of Americans thinkg Obama (incorrectly) is a Muslim

Most US students think Beethoven is a dog

Exactly how are American’s taught these days? I can understand ignorance being passed down within families, but what happened to the school system?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 08:35:16

I can understand ignorance being passed down within families, but what happened to the school system?

Sorry to say, but teacher quality isn’t what it used to be. And, at the risk of venturing out onto a very un-PC limb, one of the biggest root causes is…

…women’s lib.

Remember that movement from the late 60s/early 70s? One of the first changes that happened was a major expansion of employment opportunities for women. No longer were they confined to clerical, nursing, or teaching jobs.

So, being the opportunistic folk that we are, we took advantage of those opportunities. If we were smart and well educated, but had an aversion to dealing with sick people, well, we didn’t have to be teachers anymore. As for office work, we didn’t have to be the secretary — we could be the boss.

Fast-forward to the present, and you can do things like compare the SAT scores of people in various majors. The education majors’ scores are usually down at the bottom.

Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 09:59:06

Just like the Old South was supported by slavery, the Old Education system was supported by women. And when freed, the old model doesn’t work so good anymore.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-08-19 08:44:50

“what happened to the school system?”

LOL, I guess you didn’t get the memo that the school system has been converted into self-esteem counselling centers and free meal dispensaries, with a few gang recruitement centers sprinkled in for good measure. Who cares about reading, writing and ‘rithmetic? The important thing is that you FEEL good and eat well! Everybody is a star!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 09:16:48

Everybody is a star!

A few years ago, I went to an open house at one of the four grade schools that I attended. (The family made a couple of moves while I was in grade school. And the other school change was due to the opening of a new school that my class was transferred into.)

Any-hoo, there was a collection of essays on the wall outside the cafeteria. The topic: “I’m Special Because…”

I darn near went through the roof. Back when I went to this school, one of the teachers was fond of asking this question to any prima donna or kid who was even slightly out of line:

“Who do you think you are?”

I don’t recall that question getting much more than a stammered response.

What this guy was getting at was that no one us were that special. And that we were in school to learn things — we were all in that boat together.

Now, I’ve mentioned that one of my classmates at this grade school was an older sister of Mark Zandi. Yes, that Mark Zandi. And, if I were ever to run into him, you know what my first question would be? I can tell you that it wouldn’t relate to his current fame and quotability.

No, I would ask him if he’s gone back to Penn Wood lately, have you seen how tall the trees have gotten, and didja know that the school district tried to sell the place off a few years ago, but the neighbors, parents, kids, and alums put the kibosh on that?

That’s what everyone being in this together is like. We weren’t special — we were Penn Wooders.

Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 09:47:21

I attended the Herbert Hoover elementary school in Palo Alto.

Years later, due to the baby bust in Palo Alto (only rich DINKS can live there), it was torn down and made into condos.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-19 12:07:26

Any-hoo, there was a collection of essays on the wall outside the cafeteria. The topic: “I’m Special Because…”

Some kid should write:

I’m special because
apparently I’m the only one in my class who’s totally average.

But that would make him special.

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Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 11:48:08

Having seen the school menus, I don’t think you’d call it eating ‘well’.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 08:51:01

Barry is hardly a Muslim but he has been influenced greatly by Muslim thought. His dad was a Muslim in Kenya, and he attended a Muslim school while growing up in Indonesia.

Barry’s true thoughts about religion were revealed in his evil rednecks “clinging to guns and religion” comment. I think he pretends to be a Christian out of sheer political expediency. At heart he’s most likely an agnostic/atheist, but he knows those belief systems are anathema to most voters in the US. Hence he goes to church when the cameras are rolling.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-19 09:54:20

“Hence he goes to church when the cameras are rolling.”

As do most politicos.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:24:34

At heart he’s most likely an agnostic/atheist, but he knows those belief systems are anathema to most voters in the US. Hence he goes to church when the cameras are rolling.

If Obama were really agnostic/atheist, he’d not only get my vote again in 2012, I’d even be willing to spend money to buy his books. And that’s really saying something, because I rarely buy books these days.

Comment by robin
2010-08-20 00:17:06

I’d vote but burgers precede books, especially with coupons. - :)

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Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 13:08:49

evil ignorant rednecks “clinging to guns and religion”

That’s about when I decided to vote for him. Imagine, a politician running for president, telling the truth.

I am so sick of intelligence being regarded as “weird” or “suspicious” and down-home ignorance being worshiped as “American values” - knuckle-dragging motorcycle mechanics with killer pit-bulls on the Discovery Channel, for chrissake!

I could just about spit this wad of tobacco I’m chewing.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:23:34

Weird or suspicious? Try punished and persecuted.

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Comment by leosdad
2010-08-19 08:54:26

‘American’s’

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-19 10:16:42

Obama’s not a Muslim?

Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-19 15:09:30

Poll: Growing number of Obamas thinking (incorrectly)
most Americans are Muslim.

Beethoven isn`t a dog?

A Charlie Brown Christmas

Lucy Van Pelt: “What kind of Christmas music is *that*?
Schroeder: “Beethoven Christmas music.
Lucy Van Pelt: “What has Beethoven got to do with Christmas? Everyone talks about how “great” Beethoven was. Beethoven wasn’t so great.
[Schroeder stops playing]
Schroeder: “What do you mean Beethoven wasn’t so great?
Lucy Van Pelt: “He never got his picture on bubblegum cards, did he? Have you ever seen his picture on a bubblegum card? Hmmm? How can you say someone is great who’s never had his picture on bubblegum cards?
Schroeder: “Good grief.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 17:06:22

That’s nothing, Garfield was President.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 17:09:04

And recall that Garfield lived for a while after he was shot. It’s now believed that the attempts to treat his wound did him in.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:19:13

Hate to break it to you, but this has been ongoing since the end of WWII.

Scientific, psychological warfare in the service or propaganda was perfected during WWII and then harnessed for the consumer market after the war. It was found to be the most effective on the least educated. (duh)

That being the case, it also crafted it messages to create this desired state.

The average person doesn’t stand a chance and even the more educated erroneously believe themselves unaffected.

Short of a Russian or Chinese style “cultural revolution,” you can expect things to get worse long before they get better.

Actually, if you want to see our future, look at Great Britain. A has-been empire that has lost all sense of justice and freedom with no real viable economy or jobs, with many people still thinking everything is alright if people just stopped being lazy and got a job… event though there aren’t any and haven’t been any for 30 years, while the rich literally rob them blind.

But YO! I gots mine! And yew talk like a fag. (Idiocracy)

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 11:50:45

I saw that. Did Freddie and Fannie stop giving him campaign contributions or something? It can’t possibly be that he’s finally decided to try and do the ‘correct’ thing instead of lining his pockets!

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-19 08:59:49

A blast from last year covering Obama’s form of Bill Gross Socialism.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/26/obama-bush-paulson-ayn-rand-opinions-columnists-tea-parties.html

Obama Loves The Rich
04.27.09, Forbes
The president is no socialist. If anything, he’s an oligarch.

Are America’s most productive citizens being asked to care for the dispossessed? Are the winners forced to part with the spoils so that the society’s losers can coast through the recession? Is work being punished, are achievements scorned? Do we all have to revert into precocious high-schoolers and go back to underlining and dog-earing Ayn Rand novels and annoying our ex-hippie mothers?

No, no we don’t. Obama’s no socialist. An observer from Mars would think the man’s a downright oligarch. While the “angry white men” movement assembles into tea parties, the real anger should be felt by those on the left who have so far watched the president continue to follow an economic rescue plan that was outlined by George Bush and Hank Paulson. The only thing that Obama has socialized are the losses incurred by Wall Street’s major banks like Citigroup ( C - news - people ) and Bank of America

The yet to be launched Public Private Investment Partnership program, by which large institutional investors will use non-recourse loans from the U.S. taxpayer in order to buy toxic mortgage assets from struggling banks, is just another example of the oligarchy wrought by our so-called socialist president. Bill Gross, fund manager at PIMCO, helped design the darned program just months after PIMCO announced, in August 2008, that it was raising a $5 billion fund to buy mortgage securities.

But a few months later, Gross came up with a better idea–use public money to protect PIMCO against losses while reaping the spoils of investments that go well. Why are we giving PIMCO, a subsidiary of German life insurance company Allianz ( AZ - news - people ), a break? Maybe Angela Merkel should get Germany’s taxpayers to pay for this money manager welfare scheme.

If Obama’s recovery plan works, the winners will be the executives at the richest and most powerful financial institutions in the world. There’s so much ire about the idea that one taxpayer might be asked to subsidize the failing mortgage of another but, in truth (and in the best case scenario) all taxpayers should look back at Obama’s actions in a few years and realize that what they really subsidized were the profits and ambitions of a radically wealthy elite. New Orleans hasn’t been rebuilt, but the government is hard at work on Greenwich, Conn., and Abu Dhabi.

Comment by WT Economist
2010-08-19 10:21:15

A hell of a lot more truth than you hear from those who bring up politics here.

Again, if the market had been left alone, there would have been a systemic domino effect in the financial system, which would have bankrupted every corporation in American as their working capital vanished in the banks that served them.

All the paper wealth, stocks, bonds, would have evaporated, and the debate about whether public employee pensions (or any pensions) would be paid would not have been necessary.

And guess what? All anyone would have owned was the fruits of their labor going forward and, perhaps, their house. The federal government could have re-booted the economy from that point.

That would have hurt. Whether it would have been worse than Japanization, or may happen in the long run, is a matter of debate. But it isn’t those two paychecks away from poverty who were bailed out. They are either right where they were, or in poverty today.

Comment by packman
2010-08-19 11:19:42

Again, if the market had been left alone, there would have been a systemic domino effect in the financial system, which would have bankrupted every corporation in American as their working capital vanished in the banks that served them.

All the paper wealth, stocks, bonds, would have evaporated, and the debate about whether public employee pensions (or any pensions) would be paid would not have been necessary.

I don’t believe that for a second.

If, however, we actually had reached that point - then IMO we were very much due for a total system reset, including the associated geopolitical fallout.

You have to break some eggs to make an omelette. If in the process you find your first few eggs rotten - you don’t just stop breaking eggs in fear - you break them all - and if you find they’re all bad you throw them all out and get a new batch.

Our financial system needs to not be so co-dependent. If it gets that way, it needs to be broken down and rebuilt, from the bottom up.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:38:47

Forbes is nothin’ but a damn librul socialeest/commie rag!

 
 
Comment by polly
2010-08-19 09:14:51

Speaking of excess:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/19/garden/19aqua.html?src=me&ref=general

You have to get to the third page to get the HBB connection, but here is a little tease, “The aquarium is no longer in use, he added, as a bank has since foreclosed on the house.”

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 23:38:13

My bosses Tribeca 5 story loft building is for sale…this would be a perfect building for a 6000 lb fish tank.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/reo/1907030985.html

 
 
Comment by drumminj
2010-08-19 09:35:56

Hrm…slow morning on here.

So, talked to my mom last night and was asking about my brother. He moved from Atlanta to Chicago after losing his job (well, he quit after they stopped paying him), and rather than sell his house, decided to rent it out. Of course I advised against it, but no one ever listens to me….

Mom told me that he hasn’t received the August rent check yet, and the renters don’t return his phone calls. Yikes!

Being a long-distance landlord - ain’t it a b*tch?!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:26:27

Being a long-distance landlord - ain’t it a b*tch?!

One of my cousins is learning that lesson the hard way. And, sorry to say, her investment house isn’t turning out to be worth it in terms of the hoped-for appreciation. Not only that, she’s battling bone cancer, and I don’t things are going well on that front.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-19 09:56:19

I got another sad email last night. A friend from school is selling a house in San Mateo county (SF bay area). She and her DH bought it in 2007 for $900K, tore it down and built a nice new house on the lot, and put it on the market now for $1.5 million.

Zillow says the other houses on the block are worth about $800K.

This isn’t going to end well.

The difference between a house and a hose is “U”.

Comment by nycjoe
2010-08-19 10:33:40

People who buy 900K teardowns. Hard to know what to say.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:41:32

You can’t fix stupid?

 
 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 12:05:50

Sounds like they’re NOT selling a house in San Mateo. I predict they will be taking a bath on it.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 15:00:14

Well kiss that friend good bye….what possess people to do such dumb things…..a tear down is a 90 THOUSAND dollar house….geez

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 10:12:40

Luckily, the labor, housing and stock markets are decoupled now. Otherwise the weaknesses in the labor and stock markets might be worrisome for future housing prices.

* AUGUST 19, 2010, 12:15 P.M. ET

US Stocks Tumble As Jobs Data Adds To Economic Woes

By Kristina Peterson Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)–U.S. stocks tumbled Thursday as fresh evidence of a stagnant jobs market reignited concerns about a slowdown in the U.S. economic recovery.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 179 points, on pace to put an emphatic end to its two-day winning streak. An unexpected surge in jobless claims startled investors, eclipsing Intel’s announcement that it will acquire McAfee.

The week’s uptick in deal activity and the stream of weak economic data sent conflicting messages to the stock market. Recent downbeat data have shown stagnant hiring, sluggish consumer spending and a rebound that has yet to take hold. That has punished the stock market.

The major benchmark indexes are now in the red for the week, month and year, leaving investors dejected about the market’s prospects as the recovery continues to stall.

“We’ve gone nowhere in eight months,” said Alan Valdes, director of floor trading at Kabrik Trading, who said the unexpected jump of jobless claims to 500,000 depressed hopes for both hiring and consumer spending. “Five hundred thousand is a bad number–you can’t put any good spin on it,” he said. “This is a country that’s powered by consumer spending, but if they’re not working, they’re not spending.”

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 10:38:01

Stocks drop on downbeat economic data
By Annalyn Censky, staff reporter
August 19, 2010: 1:02 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Stocks fell Thursday, erasing two days of gains, as a spike in jobless claims and a gloomy manufacturing report cast a shadow over the already sputtering economy.

The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) tumbled 189 points, or 1.8%, and the S&P 500 (SPX) slipped 22 points, or 2%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq (COMP) composite fell 44 points, or 2%.

Stocks were coming off two days of gains, driven by solid earnings outlooks from retail giants Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Target. On Wednesday, The Dow rose 10 points, the S&P 500 inched up 2 points, and Nasdaq composite rose 6 points.

But Thursday’s downbeat numbers from several economic reports, including jobless claims and regional manufacturing, fueled gloom-and-doom fears of a double dip recession — or at least, a slower recovery.

“Today’s news on the U.S. economy has been nothing but awful,” Paul Ashworth, senior economist with Capital Economics said in a note to investors.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:46:38

Wall St and most of the Fortune 500 still thinks that our consumer driven economy doesn’t need people with jobs and still hasn’t faced reality.

I’ve seen crack/coke heads with more sense. Not much more, mind you.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 10:45:43

Refinancing homeowners are going short
Many customers take 30-year loans down to 15 or 20
~ MSNBC

After being blindsided by a job loss last spring, sales exec Ren Chirakos didn’t need his new MBA degree to calculate the scary numbers: The math got simple real fast.

Zero income + new COBRA bills + a house payment = something had to give in the Chirakos family budget. The answer: refinancing his 30-year home loan to a shorter mortgage that tapped into the trend of ever-shrinking interest rates.

“I needed to keep my house,” said Chirakos, who since has found work at a different company in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. His wife is a stay-home mom who cares for their two daughters. “It forces you to look at ‘OK, where is our money going?’ You start looking for ways to shave fixed expenses. It really gives you cause to think.”

Chirakos was paying 5.375 percent on a 30-year loan before he became a victim of downsizing at toolmaker Snap-on Inc. As rates sank and slipped over the summer, he watched and waited. Then he pounced, locking in a 20-year, fixed-rate loan at 4.3 percent and slashing $140 off the monthly bill for his $220,000 home. With excellent credit and little debt, the re-fi cost him $900, so will pay for itself in about six months. “Every little bit helps,” he said.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:48:52

COBRA is a ripoff. He could save a ton of money right there.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 19:54:36

After being blindsided by a job loss last spring,…

Then he pounced, locking in a 20-year, fixed-rate loan at 4.3 percent and slashing $140 off the monthly bill for his $220,000 home. With excellent credit and little debt, the re-fi cost him $900, so will pay for itself in about six months. “Every little bit helps,” he said.’

Job loss / excellent credit …

What am I missing here?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 10:50:15

Workplace fatalities plunge 17 percent to lowest level in nearly 2 decades

WASHINGTON (AP) — The number of workers who died on the job fell by 17 percent last year to the lowest level in nearly two decades, as workers logged fewer hours during the recession, the Labor Department said Thursday.

The 4,340 workplace fatalities recorded in 2009 was the smallest total since the Bureau of Labor Statistics first began tracking the data in 1992. It’s the second straight year that fatal work injuries have reached a historic low, following a 10 percent drop in 2008.

High unemployment and layoffs in more dangerous industries like construction played a major role in the decrease, the agency said. The construction unemployment rate is 17.3 percent, nearly double the overall jobless rate of 9.5 percent.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 12:07:22

So ruining the economy was for our own good! Thank you, politicians! You always have our backs!

 
 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-19 11:09:17

City Employees asking the Mayor of Seattle to cut senior level positions.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2012658144_city_employees_urge_the_mayor.html

“A large group of City of Seattle employees confronted Mayor Mike McGinn in his office lobby at noon to ask him to lay off senior-level employees instead of targeting the rank-and-file.

The group delivered hundreds of postcards to the mayor. “On your first day in office, you issued Executive Orders recognizing that the City is top heavy and relies too heavily on contracting out,” they wrote. “With revenue shortfalls and a lack of follow through on your orders, employees are being laid off and City services are being jeopardized.”

The mayor promised during his campaign he would cut senior-level employees. After he was sworn in in January, he began taking steps to cut 150 senior-level positions, but he backed off after managers organized to fight his proposal.

Now his office says he is “committed to reducing the number of senior positions” but won’t say by how many. The mayor points out that 35 percent of the staff members cut during mid-year budget reductions were senior-level employees, even though those employees make up only 9 percent of the workforce.”

Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 14:46:47

“The mayor points out that 35 percent of the staff members cut during mid-year budget reductions were senior-level employees, even though those employees make up only 9 percent of the workforce.”

Anyone want to bet that those 9% make up for than 35% of the salaries?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:52:24

Got to keep the “Talent,” ya know?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 11:18:34

Death of the ‘McMansion’: Era of Huge Homes Is Over
19 Aug 2010 CNBC

They’ve been called McMansions, Starter Castles, Garage Mahals and Faux Chateaus but here’s the latest thing you can call them — History.

In the past few years, there have been an increasing number of references made to the “McMansion glut” and the “McMansion backlash,” as more towns pass ordinances against garishly large homes, which are generally over 3,000 square feet and built very close together.

What sets a McMansion apart from a regular mansion, according to Wikipedia, are a few characteristics: They’re tacky, they lack a definitive style and they have a “displeasingly jumbled appearance.”

Well, count 2010 as the year the last nail was hammered into the McCoffin: In its latest report on home-buying trends, real-estate site Trulia declares: “The McMansion Era Is Over.”

Just 9 percent of the people surveyed by Trulia said their ideal home size was over 3,200 square feet. Meanwhile, more than one-third said their ideal size was under 2,000 feet.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 12:11:36

2000-3000 sq feet is just about right for a family home. Smaller than that and you really don’t have much space for keeping all the junk associated with kids/etc. The other option is to pare down on belongings, but I think that’s hard for most people to do. We haven’t yet embraced an ‘efficient living’ credo which would compact a 3/2 house down to 1200 sq feet.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 17:17:33

If you include a basement for the kids to play in bad weather…my home was 3 bdrms 1400 sq ft but a good 800 sq ft of the basement was for us to play in…..dad’s DeWalt saw, tool room, and the oil tanks and burners took up the rest.

2000-3000 sq feet is just about right for a family home

 
Comment by rms
2010-08-19 23:55:22

“2000-3000 sq feet is just about right for a family home. Smaller than that and you really don’t have much space for keeping all the junk associated with kids/etc.”

We have two kids and 1550-sqft, which feels tight after 7-months of winter. The 3000-sqft would be over-kill and too expensive for our one-income budget.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:28:18

Recall that the Victorian architectural period was followed by a period of much smaller houses. Here in Tucson, they’re referred to as bungalows, and you can still find a lot of them in and around Downtown.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 12:36:08

Tell it to Standard Pacific. Their newly-graded development along my drive to work has a large sign posted which says, “From the $700’s.”

I assume they are not starting at $700?

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 13:11:22

“I assume they are not starting at $700″?

Nah, they probably start at around $749,995.99 that would be for the basic sh!tbox with Styrofoam stucco and faux stone. Gonna take more than a $1,000,000.99 to get your larger gaudy Spanish/Med style POS. But hey, I’m sure it’s a gated community, something you rarely see these days, it’s unique.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 14:24:32

Walk in and offer them $700. Yes, seven hundred. Laugh if they ask for more.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:54:06

They’re dreaming. Over-sized, over-priced and ugly is the American Way!

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-08-19 11:26:52

Coming to a state near you

One of the many looming financial crises in the United States is the horrendous budget shortfall faced by many states.

James Altucher, managing director at Formula Capital, floats an innovative solution to this problem.

Instead of raising taxes, cutting spending, or going even deeper in debt, Altucher says, states should sell off some assets.

What assets?

Assets like roads, bridges, state parks, public transportation systems, and universities.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-19 11:54:06

Already happening.

Comment by victhebrickv
2010-08-19 14:12:02

And after the asset sale money is gone, then what?

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 14:25:46

Sell the politicians. Reinstitute slavery.

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Comment by packman
2010-08-19 14:28:09

Then, since the money that was used to pay for these things was instead siphoned off for pension funds, medicare funds, etc., you get to pay for these services a second time, in the form of:
- New tolls on these now-private roads and bridges
- Higher tuition for these now-private universities
- New or higher entrance fees for these parks (if they remain open)

But - don’t expect your taxes to actually go down.

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Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 16:58:32

Since China seems to have a trillion dollars or so maybe they’ll be the buyers.

“Buy American” used to be an American slogan, now it just might be a Chineese one.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 17:21:13

Combo:

I think they will bundle up a million mortgages and china will buy them and return the cash back to us.

 
Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 17:51:22

“…and return the cash back to us.”

Which we can use to buy more of their junk.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 18:31:08

Then we’ll bundle up another million mortgages….and

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:56:52

Exactly.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 11:31:49

Bullard Favors More Treasury Purchases Should Inflation Fall
Aug 19, 2010

The Federal Reserve should purchase more U.S. Treasury securities and expand its balance sheet if the weakening U.S. economy shows signs that inflation is slowing, St. Louis Fed President James Bullard said.

“Should economic developments suggest increased disinflation risk, purchases of Treasury securities in excess of those required to keep the size of the balance sheet constant may be warranted,” Bullard said today in the text of slides for a speech in Rogers, Arkansas.

Bullard supported the Fed’s decision last week to keep its bond holdings at $2.05 trillion by reinvesting the proceeds from maturing mortgage-backed securities into Treasuries. The Federal Open Market Committee, seeking to spur economic growth, held the main interest rate unchanged at zero to 0.25 percent, where it’s been since December 2008, and affirmed a pledge to keep rates low for “an extended period.”

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 16:51:40

It looks as if Gerald Ford’s WIN buttons (Whip Inflation Now) are finally beginning to work.

 
 
Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 11:45:34

Obey the speed limits in Connecticut, folks:

Connecticut may have just a week’s worth of cash

“NEW YORK (Reuters) - Connecticut this autumn probably would have just a little more cash than it needs to pay a week’s expenses unless it issues $520 million of debt, according to the state treasurer.

If the planned offering of general bond obligations were delayed until 2011, “This coming fall the state would likely have just over a week’s worth of expenses in the bank — a level lower than advisable,” Napier wrote in an August 13 letter…”

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 11:46:40

“…Spence says he sees the Great Stagnation as a profound crisis of identity for America. For years, the problem was cushioned and partially hidden by the availability of cheap debt. Middle-class Americans were actively encouraged to withdraw equity from their homes, or leach from their retirement funds, in the confidence that ¬property prices and stock markets would permanently defy gravity (a view, among others, promoted by half the world’s Nobel economics prize winners, Spence not included). That cushion is now gone. Easy money has turned into heavy debt.”

Futurama, baby

“Great Stagnation” - love that term.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 17:24:43

Lavi:

Couple that with a workforce that has been dumbed down, people who can’t think outside the box, or have an innovative idea, and what do you get?

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:59:40

Eggroll?

 
Comment by combotechie
2010-08-19 19:28:05

” … what do you get?

A lot of military recruits.

The military = The Ultimate Answer to unemployment.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 18:58:31

Well after this is “not” a depression, right?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 11:56:45

So who “owns” the job and sets the rules? The company or it’s employees?

Muslim employee sues US Disneyland over headscarf ban
Aug 19

A Muslim woman is suing Disneyland, accusing the company’s California theme park of discrimination for telling her she could not serve customers if she chose to wear a headscarf.

Imane Boudal, 26, asked her employers at Disneyland’s Grand Californian Hotel several months ago whether they would permit her to wear a headcovering while working as a hostess, a spokeswoman for a worker’s union said.

But when no reply was forthcoming, she decided to don the headscarf anyway, timing her decision with the beginning of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, Leigh Shelton, a spokesman for the UNITE HERE Local 11 union said.

“Disney told Boudlal that if she wanted to work as a hostess she had to remove her hijab because it did not comply with the ‘Disney Look,’” Shelton said in a statement.

“Disney further advised Boudlal that if she refused to remove her hijab, she could either work a back-of-the-house position where any customers would not see her, or else go home.”

Boudlal refused the compromise and is now bringing Disney before the US Equal Opportunity Commission, a federal agency that handles claims of workplace discrimination.

“Their offer to put me in the back is humiliating,” she said in a statement. “They’re saying because I’m Arab, because I’m Moroccan, because I’m Muslim, they don’t want to see me in the front.”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 12:31:07

“Their offer to put me in the back is humiliating,” she said in a statement. “They’re saying because I’m Arab, because I’m Moroccan, because I’m Muslim, they don’t want to see me in the front.”

And to think that, this afternoon, one of my friends is coming over to pick up the stuff she stored in my house for the summer. She’s from Malaysia, is a Muslim, and wears some of the niftiest looking headscarves I’ve ever seen.

 
Comment by Kim
2010-08-19 12:39:44

Disney said they tried to accomodate her. Either this chick is trying to take advantage of Disney’s deep pockets, or she is just PO’ed that she didn’t get to play the role of Princess Jasmine.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-19 13:17:18

A Muslim woman is suing Disneyland, accusing the company’s California theme park of discrimination for telling her she could not serve customers if she chose to wear a headscarf.

Hell, that’s nothing. The company I work for makes me tuck in my shirt, forbids Hawaiian shirts and doesn’t even have Casual Fridays!

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 14:28:29

No, they’re saying because you won’t wear the approved uniform for the position you’ve been at for 2 and a half years (and have been wearing the approved uniform in that time frame) you must take a different job with a different dress code.

I can’t come into my job wearing anything I want. Why should you get to?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 14:46:03

Hey, wait a minute. Check out this part of the story:

Imane Boudal, 26, asked her employers at Disneyland’s Grand Californian Hotel several months ago whether they would permit her to wear a headcovering while working as a hostess, a spokeswoman for a worker’s union said.

But when no reply was forthcoming, she decided to don the headscarf anyway, timing her decision with the beginning of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, Leigh Shelton, a spokesman for the UNITE HERE Local 11 union said.

It wasn’t like she just up and decided to start wearing the headscarf. She did ask for permission first.

Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-19 15:50:03

“Miss Boudlal has effectively understood that they’re not interested in accommodating her request either in timing or good faith,” said Ameena Qazi, an attorney from the Council on American-Islamic Relations who is consulting with Boudlal.

Disneyland spokeswoman Suzi Brown said Disney has a policy not to discriminate. The resort offered Boudlal a chance to work with the head covering away from customers while Disneyland tries to find a compromise that would allow Boudlal to cover her head in a way that fits with her hostess uniform, Brown said.

“Typically, somebody in an on-stage position like hers wouldn’t wear something like that, that’s not part of the costume,” Brown said. “We were trying to accommodate her with a backstage position that would allow her to work. We gave her a couple of different options and she chose not to take those and to go home.”

Boudlal, who is a native of Morocco, has worked at the Storyteller restaurant at the hotel for 2½ years but only realized she could wear her hijab to work after studying for her U.S. citizenship exam in June, Qazi said.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 12:37:34

Economic Report

Aug. 19, 2010, 10:19 a.m. EDT
Leading indicators show slowing U.S. economic growth

By Steve Goldstein, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. economy looks set to grow at a slower pace than earlier this year, the Conference Board said on Thursday as it reported its leading economic index rose 0.1% in July.

The index is essentially flat since March, the Conference Board added, though it’s still well above pre-recession levels. Economists polled by MarketWatch had expected a 0.2% advance.

Separately, the Philadelphia Fed’s August index slumped to -7.7 from positive 5.1 in July, which the Fed says suggest that regional manufacturing activity weakened in August, after two months of slowing activity.

The simultaneously released reports hit U.S. stocks hard.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 12:50:03

Bad jobs report helps send stocks tumbling
News that mid-Atlantic manufacturing was down also weighs on markets

Image: Banc of America Specialist Peter Giacchi
Henny Ray Abrams / AP

Banc of America Specialist Peter Giacchi might agree with one analyst who says “The jobs number was bad, but not as far off the mark as the Philly number.”

NEW YORK — Stocks tumbled Thursday after two disappointing economic reports renewed investors’ concerns about the pace of the recovery.

The Dow Jones industrial average fell about 160 points in late afternoon trading. Broader indexes fell by more than 1.5 percent. Interest rates also fell sharply as investors flocked to the safety of Treasury bonds.

The Labor Department said claims for unemployment benefits rose unexpectedly last week and the Federal Reserve of Philadelphia said manufacturing activity in the mid-Atlantic region has dropped during August.

“The Philly Fed number was just awful,” said Randy Frederick, director of trading and derivatives at Charles Schwab. “The jobs number was bad, but not as far off the mark as the Philly number.”

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 13:03:25

Would you good folks out there in Kalifornia just send your state gubmint mo money! They are doing the best they can on so little. Remember the chidrens please.

California close to issuing IOUs - again.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — California is once again running out of money and may have to issue IOUs within a few weeks.

The state’s financial crunch stems from the fact that it does not have a budget for the current fiscal year, which began July 1. The governor and lawmakers continue to squabble over how to close an estimated $19 billion shortfall.

State Controller John Chiang said Wednesday that the state could have to issue IOUs in two to four weeks to keep the state solvent. He estimates there are $2.2 billion in expenses — mainly to social service agencies, vendors and schools — that will go unpaid in August.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 13:19:20

Oh, great. One of my current university clients is in CA. And they’ve already been a real PITA in terms of getting paid.

The good news is that the project is ending after the first of the year, and I’ll no longer have to deal with them.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-08-19 14:31:56

They get mighty mad when you send them IOUs for your taxes.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 15:20:58

Which is another point that I plan to make to my Tucson contact on this project that’s being paid for through the CA university. She’s already been put on notice that I can’t afford to wait forever and a day to get paid.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 19:05:07

I’ve learned the hard way to have payment milestones for my customers. And NOBODY gets anything over net 30.

Anyone who insists has just told me they are going to screw me, so it’s no loss if I don’t get the contract.

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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-19 16:24:13

I wonder if we’ll see a black market in IOUs. A new business opportunity - buy IOUs at a steep discount and gamble that they will be worth something eventually.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:05:32

The data releases over the past couple of weeks have been bad enough to send a permabear into a depression.

Stocks drop on trifecta of bad reports
By Annalyn Censky, staff reporter
August 19, 2010: 2:58 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Investors were hit with a triple whammy of bad economic news Thursday: manufacturing still stinks, more people are jobless and confidence in the future is less than hoped.

As a result, stocks were sharply lower: the Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) tumbled 172 points, or 1.7%, and the S&P 500 (SPX) slipped 20 points, or 1.9%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq (COMP) composite fell 40 points, or 1.8%.

Stocks were coming off two days of gains, driven by solid earnings outlooks from retail giants Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Target. But even during this week’s earlier rallies, traders were saying they were remaining cautious given fears about a double-dip recession - or at least, a slower recovery.

Thursday’s disappointing numbers on weekly jobless claims, manufacturing in the Philadelphia region and leading indicators just fanned the flames on those gloom-and-doom fears.

“Today’s news on the U.S. economy has been nothing but awful,” Paul Ashworth, senior economist with Capital Economics said in a note to investors.

A report that showed manufacturing activity in the Philadelphia region slowed to a 13-month low “suggests the industrial recovery is teetering on the brink,” he said.

 
Comment by Sam
2010-08-19 13:19:33

I new this was going to happen. Woo Hoo! Look out below fellow (Aspberger) Palo Altoids:

Bay Area July Home Sales Down Sharply; Median Price Slips From June - http://www.dqnews.com/Articles/2010/News/California/Bay-Area/RRBay100819.aspx

Housing Double Dip is Not Just Tax Credit Hangover
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38774985

buh bhu bhu but, we’re too smart for this to happen!

Boy That felt good :) Have fun feeding your Real Estate habit. Now you’re “priced in forever.” HA! Gloat off.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 15:23:14

The comments after the CNBC story are a gas. Take, for example, this gem:

“For as bad as the inventory data is, you can rest assured that it is actually much worse. The banks have been in heavy hoarding mode for two years now.

“I just do not understand why they did not release more home [sic] onto the market while the tax credit was still in play. That was their best chance to put a dent in their excess supply.

“Now, demand has collapsed and they’re screwed.”

Looks like we HBB-ers have allies on other discussion boards.

Comment by Awaiting Bubble Rubble
2010-08-19 19:12:44

Yep, demand falls off a cliff after the tax giveaway that lured anybody who is dumb enough to buy in the next year off the fence expires:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Firm-Calif-home-sales-drop-22-apf-1234460859.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=3&asset=&ccode=

And those who were lured by the tax giveaway will be upside down by early next year. Was it worth $8K to buy in a state where one’s house can easily depreciate by $2K/month for the next few years?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 20:05:11

It gets tiring to constantly repeat yourself and almost always be right, yet take the impression the MSM not only is perpetually clueless, but prefers to consult with clueless sources.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:22:22

Groundhog Day!

The Financial Times
California faces issuing IOUs again
By Matthew Garrahan in Los Angeles
Published: August 19 2010 19:11 | Last updated: August 19 2010 19:11

California will be forced to issue IOUs to public workers and other creditors in lieu of cash in the next two months if a budget deadlock cannot be broken, the state’s financial controller has warned.

America’s most populous state faces a repeat of 2009, when a slumping economy and its failure to agree a budget caused an unprecedented fiscal crunch and the issuing of $2.6bn of IOUs, which damaged California’s credit rating and forced it to scrap some social programmes.

John Chiang, California’s controller, told the Financial Times that the state was once again flirting with IOUs because of a budget stalemate between Arnold Schwarzenegger, its governor, and the state government. The budget is two months late.

“If the governor and the legislature act responsibly and pass a budget then we won’t have to issue IOUs – it’s as simple as that,” said Mr Chiang.

However, Mr Schwarzenegger and the state legislature do not appear to be close to agreeing a new financial plan for California, which issues more municipal debt than any other US state. The governor has outlined drastic spending cuts to close a $19.1bn deficit, which many in the state legislature have opposed.

EDITOR’S CHOICE
Budget office warns over extending tax cuts - Aug-19
New jobless claims in US hit half-million mark - Aug-19
US house mortgage arrears mount - Aug-16
Lex: US government bonds - Aug-17
Opinion: US needs to make bad jobs better - Jul-05
Analysis: America: States of distress - Aug-08

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 13:24:07

The Financial Times
Fresh US recovery fears hit risky assets
By Telis Demos in London
Published: August 19 2010 09:45 | Last updated: August 19 2010 20:27

Thursday 19.40 BST. The US labour market remains in a slump, and factory activity is slipping, prompting a fresh sell-off of US and European stocks and further low yields for government bonds.

The S&P 500 index is down 1.8 per cent, on track to close at its lowest level since July. The FTSE All-World stock index is down 1.3 per cent as European shares also tumble after rising earlier on stronger local economic data. Gold is rising, and oil is falling.

US jobless claims rose to the psychologically significant 500,000 level last week, above the forecast of 476,000, and bringing the four-week moving average up by 9,000 claims.

“This report indicates that the pace of firings and layoffs has increased and is a negative signal for the employment report in two weeks’ time,” said Michael Gapen, economist at Barclays Capital.

And the drumbeat of bad US news kept on. The Philadelphia Fed’s gauge of factory activity fell to its lowest level in a year, and the Congressional Budget Office projected that the US’s 2014 budget deficit would reach $1,300bn, slightly higher than its forecast in March.

Government bond yields are falling further into uncharted territory. The US Federal Reserve also announced its first purchases of Treasuries, buying $3.6bn.

The yield of 10-year US Treasuries hit a new 11-month low of 2.57 per cent. Yields on 30-year US bonds were down a whopping 10 basis points, to 3.64 per cent, and German 30-year bond yields were at a fresh all time low, just below 2.98 per cent.

“The current low levels of bond yields would be consistent with the prospect of a very long period of near-zero, short-term interest rates, low or negative inflation, and lacklustre returns on riskier assets that increase demand for the safety of government bonds,” said Julian Jessop, chief international economist at Capital Economics.

EDITOR’S CHOICE
US stocks fall on jobless data - Aug-19
Cautious comment limits London - Aug-19
German forecasts boost European equities - Aug-19
Asia boosted by Mumbai 30-month high - Aug-19
Short View: Bond bubble - Aug-18

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 13:36:40

At least they aren’t moving to Mexico…

Overhead Door Closing Athens Plant.

ATHENS, Ga. (AP) — Overhead Door Corp. says it’s closing its
plant in Athens and moving the work to a facility in Pensacola,
Florida.

The announcement Wednesday means the elimination of 111 jobs in Athens, where the company has been making doors for 45 years.

Ken Mahlke, Overhead’s vice president of human resources, says the move will start immediately, and layoffs will begin Oct. 15.

Mahlke says the Pensacola plant offers more modern equipment
than the Athens facility and is in a better location for the
company’s business.

Overhead Door will retain its sales and service office in Athens.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 19:08:47

Mahlke says the Pensacola plant offers more modern equipment
than the Athens facility and is in a better location for the
company’s business.

Read: Tax incentives + cheaper labor and shipping.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 13:42:07

Pratt & Whitney to Cut 129 Jobs in Cheshire, Conn.

Officials from Pratt & Whitney have told union workers that the company will be eliminating 129 hourly jobs at the Cheshire Engine Center, union officials said.

The company attributed the cuts to a reductions in work performed at the Cheshire facility.

“The reduction is in full compliance with the current collective bargaining agreement and the court’s ruling,” company officials said in a statement released on Thursday. You can read more on the court ruling here.

Local union officials said the machinists union has questions about the planned job cuts and that hourly employees have been working 10 hours a day, instead of the normal eight-hour shift, and have been asked to come in on Saturdays as well. Some people have also been asked to work on Sundays, officials from IAM District 26 said in a statement released on Thursday.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 19:37:55

The C-17 and F-22 and F-35 programs got cut and the new air tanker is still in limbo.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-08-19 15:30:18

Mexico’s Peso Drops Most in Week as U.S. Jobless Claims Rise Unexpectedly
By Andres R. Martinez - Aug 19, 2010 8:09 AM PT

Mexico’s peso dropped the most in a week as the U.S., the nation’s largest trading partner, said initial jobless claims rose unexpectedly.

The peso fell 0.6 percent to 12.7022 per dollar at 11:01 a.m. New York time, from 12.6315 yesterday. The drop pared the peso’s gain against the U.S. dollar this year to 3 percent, the third-best performer among the 16 major currencies tracked by Bloomberg, after Japan’s yen and Singapore’s dollar. The decline was the largest since Aug. 11.

“We are reminded of how soft the recovery is stateside and this really does put the pressure on those U.S. satellite economies, such as Mexico,” said Mike Moran, a currency strategist at Standard Chartered Bank in New York.

Initial jobless claims rose by 12,000 to 500,000 in the week ended Aug. 14, exceeding all estimates of economists surveyed by Bloomberg. The U.S. purchases about 80 percent of Mexico’s exports.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-19 16:03:57

Ho ho, hah hah, hehehehehehe, BwaHaHaAhHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower™) ;-)


Diamonds: The Missing Commodity Derivative
:

Investopedia / Topics: Investing Ideas & Strategies
James E. McWhinney, On Thursday August 12, 2010

“…The derivative market is often larger than the market for the actual commodity. This is because speculators don’t want to take physical delivery of the commodity, they want to trade contracts and make money.

“Companies in India and China may be supporters of the effort, as the demand for jewelry in these two countries exceeds the demand of most nations. Middle-Eastern countries are also possible buyers. Initial efforts are apt to focus on derivative contracts that do not result in physical delivery.”

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-19 16:27:12

Buy Owner service is in liquidation

By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 4:35 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 19, 2010

The Buy Owner broker-free real estate firm, known for its familiar “Thanks, Buy Owner” advertisements, has filed for liquidation as the housing market continues to struggle.

The Deerfield Beach-based company will continue to operate with a reduced staff as a buyer is sought for its assets, which could include the purchase of the firm in its entirety, minus its debt.

“The phones, as far as people interested in the service remain very active, and we are signing up new clients everyday,” said Philip J. von Kahle, managing director for Michael Moecker & Associates, which is the assignee for Buy Owner. “There is still a very valuable core business here.”

Buy Owner president and CEO Scott A. Eckert lives in Boca Raton.

The company filed last month for an assignment for the benefit of creditors in Broward County, which is similar to a Chapter 7 federal bankruptcy but in state court.

As assignee, the Fort Lauderdale-based Michael Moecker & Associates, is responsible for maximizing the assets of the company so creditors can get paid.

Von Kahle said the combination of a down real estate market and a large Bank of America loan that recently required payment led to the liquidation filing.

According to court documents, Buy Owner owes about $3.9 million to Bank of America, and $1.2 million in back pay to its executives, including Eckert. It has 33 shareholders.

Buy Owner, founded in 1984, charges fees to sellers based on how much exposure they want on its website, and what features, such as custom fliers or talking yard signs, they choose. It is free to buyers.

The company has franchises in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Orlando, Philadelphia and Tampa.

“I don’t think the company could scale down quick enough because it got so big,” said von Kahle. “It appears to me the loan from Bank of America was the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

A 2009 Florida Realtors report found about 10 percent of homes sold last year did so without the help of a Realtor.

Leyza Blanco, an attorney with Miami-based GrayRobinson, P.A. who is representing Michael Moecker & Associates, said she has filed a motion to allow for liquidation of the business as a whole, rather than its parts. Because Buy Owner is a service-based company, that could maximize profits, Blanco said.

“There’s not a lot of tangible assets that you can just take apart and sell,” she said.

Creditors have until Nov. 23 to file claims against the company.

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-19 17:08:57

“There’s not a lot of tangible assets that you can just take apart and sell,” she said.

That may qualify as one of understatements of the last few months.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-19 17:10:47

A 2009 Florida Realtors report found about 10 percent of homes sold last year did so without the help of a Realtor.

Methinks that, in the coming years, this percentage will grow by quite a bit. Not just due to the “help you FSBO” services like this one, but due to services like RedFin and sites like Craigslist.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-19 19:39:11

Wow.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 19:48:57

Perp walks finally coming down the pike?

* The Wall Street Journal
* WRITING ON THE WALL
* AUGUST 19, 2010

In Search of Justice for Wall (Street)
Judges Are Finally Questioning Wall Street Settlements

* By DAVID WEIDNER

What oxymorons make you smile? A few of my favorites include military intelligence, death benefits, Internet etiquette and market discipline.

But there’s one that’s more frustrating than funny: Wall Street justice.

From Rudolph Giuliani’s empty pursuit of insider traders to Eliot Spitzer’s showboating, to the recent settlement with Goldman Sachs Group Inc. over misleading investors, punishment for fraud and misconduct on Wall Street has been as harsh as the ending of a Disney movie.

Whether it is state or federal prosecutors or the Securities and Exchange Commission, the pattern has been the same: Settlements with weakly worded reforms and timid penalties are handed to judges for the rubber stamp. The perpetrators always seem to leave feeling warm and fuzzy. Who knows? They may even get the princess.

But dare we say it; this brand of pseudo justice may actually be in danger of disappearing. Two judges, Jed S. Rakoff and Ellen Segal Huvelle, have rejected settlements related to the financial crisis in the last year on the grounds they are too weak and punish shareholders.

Another, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, threatened but ultimately accepted Wednesday a $298 million settlement with Barclays PLC stemming from alleged altering of financial records to hide the movement of funds into the U.S. from Iran, Cuba and other prohibited countries. Judge Sullivan had called the settlement a “sweetheart deal.”

Still, in rejecting pacts between prosecutors and Bank of America Corp. and Citigroup Inc. the bench has disrupted the tried-and-true practice of sue-and-settle preferred by our regulatory watchdogs.

Maybe it’s because the banks in question received the lion’s share of taxpayer bailouts. Or perhaps the judges were simply fed up with benign penalties. Whatever the reason, there is a glimmer of hope that punishments may come closer to fitting the crimes.

“I look at this and say, ‘Why would I find this fair and reasonable?’ ” Judge Huvelle told both sides at a hearing Monday. “You expect the court to rubber-stamp, but we can’t.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 19:57:27

* The Wall Street Journal
* HEARD ON THE STREET
* AUGUST 20, 2010

Government Still Housing Foundation
By PETER EAVIS

Don’t be fooled: Housing’s grip on government policy isn’t getting any weaker.

For decades, politicians, banks and homeowners have participated in a system of subsidies that not only pushed house prices to artificial highs, but also sucked capital away from more productive investments. It was therefore long-term bullish for the U.S. economy to see the Treasury and other key policy makers recently voice support for an eventual wind down of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Also, with residential mortgage delinquencies falling, the foreclosure wave could subside by the end of next year, reducing cries for intervention. Even if the economy were to double dip, foreclosures should continue falling, because it appears that poor lending—not economic sluggishness—was the biggest driver of defaults.

That said, it is hard to see the government actually retreating from the housing sector. Right now, government entities back nearly all new mortgages, and banks hold on to almost none. The banks would likely hold floating-rate, shorter-dated products that have solid down payments. But few borrowers will take out such loans when government entities are offering 30-year fixed-rate loans at low rates, which can be refinanced at will. In theory, government entities could be told to stop offering such loans, to create room for private-sector lenders. The Treasury likely wouldn’t take such measures as long as it fears another drop in house prices.

However, for a housing recovery to be sustainable, it must draw in large participation from private banks or bond investors. That may not happen till Fannie and Freddie are scaled back and the housing market has been allowed to clear properly.

Even if the foreclosure crisis subsides, the housing-financial complex is still likely to get in the way.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 20:02:28

* AMERICAS NEWS
* AUGUST 19, 2010

Mexico Under Siege
Business Heads Plead as Drug Gangs Terrorize Wealthy City

By NICHOLAS CASEY

MONTERREY, Mexico—A surge of drug violence in Mexico’s business capital and richest city has prompted an outcry from business leaders who on Wednesday took out full-page ads asking President Felipe Calderón to send in more soldiers to stem the violence.

‘Es momento de hacer un alto y decidir sobre la mejor forma de responder a las bandas de criminales que … buscan establecer un nuevo parámetro de terror.’

‘It’s time to stop and decide the best way to respond to criminal bands … looking to establish a new boundary of terror.’

– Excerpt from newspaper ad by Mexican business leaders

Soldiers secure a crime scene where the body of the mayor of a tourist town near Monterrey was found Wednesday.

The growing violence in Monterrey, long one of Mexico’s most modern and safe cities, is a sign that the country’s war against drug gangs is spreading ever further from poorer battlegrounds along the border and into the country’s wealthiest enclaves.

Residents opened their newspapers Wednesday morning to find the ads taken out by Mexican business leaders, begging the government to send more military into the city. “Enough already,” said the notice that ran in national and local papers, criticizing what it said was a slow response of police against “criminal bands that in every act look to establish a new boundary of terror.”

Later that day, the body of Edelmiro Cavazos, mayor of the Monterrey suburb of Santiago, was found beside a highway. Mr. Cavazos had been abducted Sunday night, the latest in a string of attacks against politicians in Mexico’s north.

His killing is another incident in a terrifying spell for Monterrey residents that began Saturday when armed gangs set up more than a dozen roadblocks on key boulevards of the city, paralyzing traffic for hours. The next day, a grenade was lobbed at the offices of an important television broadcaster. On Tuesday night, grenades were also hurled at several small businesses on the city’s outskirts.

Mexico’s Drug Killings

Nearly 23,000 people have died in drug-related violence since 2006, according to the government, with northern border states experiencing the worst of the violence.

“The security environment in Monterrey has turned, in just a few months, from seeming benevolence to extreme violence,” U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual said at a recent conference on drug trafficking in El Paso, Texas.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-19 23:46:32

its almost time for the Hail Mary pass and to legalize possession of drugs

just make it illegal to sell it.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 20:33:53

I can’t wait to see this thing crash:

Low Jumbo Mortgage Rates Helping California’s High Priced Home Markets
Posted By: Rosemary Rugnetta | August 19, 2010 at 10:00 am

August 19, 2010 (FreeRateUpdate dot com) – While California may have been one of the top states with foreclosures during the housing meltdown, it is now leading the way in the recovery of the high priced home market. With jumbo mortgage rates at their lowest since 2003, buyers are taking advantage of this opportunity to purchase or trade up to a bigger home. Low jumbo mortgage rates are helping California’s high priced home markets recover from their three year slump that practically made them obsolete.

Comment by rms
2010-08-20 00:21:03

“As low jumbo mortgage rates are helping California’s high priced home markets come alive again, it will be interesting to see if interest in low jumbo mortgage rates continue to sprout throughout the country thus leading the way for the well anticipated housing recovery.”

No mention of the FHA as the [only] underwriter in this puff piece.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 23:15:56

I wonder if this would work in America?

Emerging Markets Report

Aug. 20, 2010, 1:38 a.m. EDT
China developers hoarding land may face sanctions

By Chris Oliver, MarketWatch

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — Chinese real-estate developers found hoarding land will be barred from receiving bank loans, China’s top land regulator said Thursday, according to a report in the state-run China Daily.

Liao Yonglin, a senior official at the Ministry of Land and Resources, said developers found flaunting land-hoarding rules would be reported to relevant departments.

He said the sanctions were meant to prevent runaway housing prices by ensuring steady supplies.

“In order to control housing prices, we will release information on any real-estate developer who tries to hoard land in any way to financial supervision and administration departments, making bank loans impossible for those developers,” Liao was cited as saying in the report.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-19 23:20:54

Is anyone up for a lovely Mexico vacation?

Kidnapped Mexican Mayor Found Dead
Aug. 19, 2010

Security forces find the body of a mayor days after he was abducted by hit men in the latest attack on a public official by increasingly bold drug gangs. Video courtesy of Reuters.

 
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