February 28, 2011

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 00:35:25

Posted on Sun, Feb. 27, 2011 11:38 PM
Best documentary | ‘Inside Job’

Oscar went for timeliness in the documentary feature category, giving the big award to “Inside Job,” a detailed and quietly furious examination of our financial meltdown.

In accepting the award, filmmaker Charles H. Ferguson (he was also nominated three years ago for “No End in Sight,” about the American occupation of Iraq) said, “Forgive me, I must start by pointing out that three years after our horrific financial crisis caused by financial fraud, not a single financial executive has gone to jail, and that’s wrong.”

Comment by arizonadude
2011-02-28 06:22:28

I saw that. Did this movie ever come out on dvd? Been wanting to watch it.

Comment by polly
2011-02-28 07:25:18

Amazon lists it as March 8th. $14.49. Free shipping.

Comment by arizonadude
2011-02-28 07:33:58

sweet. thx

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Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 07:51:58

I’m holding out for deflation down to the 99 cent level. Or am I going to be priced-out of this movie forever? Well, Bernanke, are you feeling lucky?

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Comment by jbunniii
2011-02-28 10:22:55

Surely if we have learned nothing else in the past 10 years, we have recognized that renting is better than owning? #15 in my Netflix queue.

 
 
Comment by Sean
2011-02-28 10:41:48

I talked to a realtor, she said it was a good time to buy that DVD, as inventory is shrinking and prices are going up. I told her I couldn’t afford it, as I can only afford VHS tapes, she said “Well, wait until its out on BlueRay only, then you’ll be out of the market completely”

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:57:50

Little fish go to prison; big fish stay in power.

14-year sentence in mortgage fraud case
Loans owned by credit unions sold to Fannie Mae
By Inman News, Monday, February 28, 2011.

The former president of New Jersey-based U.S. Mortgage Corp. has been sentenced to 14 years in prison for his role in a $136 million fraud scheme that bankrupted the company and its subsidiary, CU National Mortgage, prosecutors said.

Michael J. McGrath, Jr., 47, pleaded guilty last year to one count of mail and wire fraud conspiracy and one count of money laundering in connection with a scheme to fraudulently sell Fannie Mae hundreds of loans belonging to various credit unions from 2002 to early 2009.

Other members of the conspiracy included U.S. Mortgage’s chief financial officer and its servicing manager, Leroy Hayden, of East Stroudsburg, Pa.. Hayden, 47, has pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud conspiracy and is currently scheduled to be sentenced on March 24.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-02-28 13:55:14

Note to self - be a big fish.

Comment by polly
2011-02-28 16:32:03

Also, the crime of trying to sell something that neither you nor the organization you represent owns is way easier to prove than securities fraud.

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Comment by timmy
2011-02-28 08:19:09

No financial executives have gone to jail because…. unfortunately…. none of them ACTUALLY broke the law.

They only ENABLED the fraud by creating & selling the fraudulent securities created by others.

Why then… can we not prosecute the financial executives of every large Wall Street bank…. based on the RICO ACT???

Since they KNEW of the fraudulent loans (evidenced by emails)… & SOLD them KNOWING that they will go bad… they are acting in ORGANIZED CRIME!!!

None of the mafia crime bosses ever actually break the law themselves. They do not murder or extort anyone THEMSELVES… but they ENABLE others in their organization to do so.

Our FBI is a joke.

Should stand for “FEDERAL BUREAU OF INSIDERS”

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 08:36:50

Exactly Timmy . But they did break the law in their misrepresentation
of the risk . They were enablers to the lower levels to produce faulty loans to pass off to the Secondary market and they were the guys that got the money for the lower rung to produce the faulty liar loan
paper . The originators knew they could pass the junk to Wall Street and they would get rid of it . That’s how the market became .
CountryWIde junk loans were so bad that they had a 80% default rate
. Those loans bundles were just riddled with fraud while Mozillo was
touting the wonderful performance of his Company so he could pump up his stock and sell and take the money and run claiming he was retiring . Who is to say that Mozillo wasn’t blackmailing Senator Dodds
for bail outs because Mozillo had given Dodds 80k in loan breaks .
They let Dodds of the hook because he claimed he didn’t know he had loan breaks from Mozillo . Than Dodds was one of the guys that crafted the financial reform ,that was bogus .

All you have to do is watch the drama and it will make you sick .

Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 08:50:42

They gave Mozillo like a $500 fine or something like that. And you still want more justice?

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 10:44:49

Ol’ leatherface played the system like a violin.

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Comment by Jerry
2011-02-28 13:17:25

This man was brave and correct! To bad our wonderful SEC is afraid to do anything. Wall St Boys have everyone under their controll now. No exceptions except a “few brave people” Remember out the middle east revolt started with one 26 year old fruit seller whose scale was taken from him by a government worker? Perhaps more can start now. God help us if we don’t!

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 00:44:59

Feb-27-2011 20:26

‘Inside Job’ Wins Oscar, But Will Financial Reform Be Gutted?
Salem-News.com

Congressional Attacks on Funding Could Cripple Protections for Consumers, Economy.

(WASHINGTON D.C.) - Tonight’s Best Documentary win for “Inside Job” serves as a reminder of the critical importance of financial reform even as implementation of reform is under attack by congressional Republicans seeking to cut off funding, policy experts at The Greenlining Institute said tonight.

Greenlining co-founder Robert Gnaizda is prominently featured in the documentary as one of the few whistle-blowers who saw the subprime meltdown coming and tried to sound a warning.

The film shows how deregulation produced a massive housing bubble built on speculation, inflated appraisals, bogus bond ratings and outright fraud, and it ought to be required viewing for members of Congress,” said Chris Vaeth, The Greenlining Institute’s Washington, D.C.-based legislative director.

It’s ironic that even as ‘Inside Job’ is being honored, some in Congress are working to squelch the very regulations that could stop the next meltdown by blocking the funding needed to implement them.”

Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-02-28 05:34:18

We don’t really need any regulation. How about those that gamble might never see their money again? Or how about those that loan out their money to deadbeats might get left holding the bag. No government/taxpayer bailouts or guarantees for anybody or anything. That’s the only “regulation” we need besides government staying out of private business.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 06:09:31

As long as Corporations can buy legislators it will never happen.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 08:22:17

We do’t need no stinking regulation . But , the position Government took was to bail out the TBTF gamblers ,and it obstructed Justice and liability ,and than they went in to try to stimulate
that sector that was pumped up by the Ponzi -scheme ,the real estate sector .

My position is the market creators did not has a right to faulty lending and than misrepresentation of those risks to investors . You can pump up any investment sector if you proceed to use
faulty lending to finance it as well as not having the proper
reserves ,as well as having 40:1 leverage ,as well as having credit default side bets without reserves as if your betting on a
football game .

Lending has different principals than investment . In other words ,you can invest in anything you want as long as you qualify for the loan that you want for that investment .

That was the problem with 1929 stock market crash . They were lending everybody and their brother money on margin to
buy stocks by loan leverage .So when the stock market crashed
the loans were called in ,it created a run on the banks ,on and on . The point is the gamblers of stocks at that time not only
didn’t qualify for the leverage ,the huge amounts of leverage money created this huge wave of borrowed funds going to Stock Market that drove up the prices to bogus levels ,only to crash .

It’s a form of leveraged money creation ,loans are .So after the stock market crash they figured out that lending and speculation were in conflict of interest . So ,they came up with Glass-Steagal to separate the principals of speculation has nothing to do with lending dollars for that speculation ,you have to qualify for those loan dollars to speculate so to speak . The
more risk of the speculation ,the less loan dollars can be in the bet so to speak . Those unqualified borrowers in the real estate
scheme should of been putting 50% down so to speak to make up for their risk .

So with various de-regulations it set the stage for Wall Street investment Banks to mingle with Banks and create leveraged dollars to go to a sector without the gamblers qualifying for the leveraged dollars (low down loan without qualifying ). It drove up the prices and Wall Street made a lot of money being middlemen on the deal ,especially by misrepresenting the risk to
the bagholder investors in the MBS’s pool .

Wall Street likes to create money to play with so to speak .

In truth ,its not about the validity of a investment anymore ,its all about driving up the price artificially ,than getting out before it crashes .This is a dangerous game ,especially when you look at it on a large scale level . Not only do funds get directed toward unneeded areas ,funds that should go toward needed areas get directed toward the get rich quick bubble created .

Wall Street doesn’t want to be limited on the casino games they can play or the leverage they can use . Investments Banks want to act like a bank ,but not comply with how they generate the money to play the game . Wasn’t Hank Paulson responsible for getting 40:1 leverage at some point in the real estate Ponzi Scheme . It was also bogus how they made the Investment Banks into Banks at the last minute just so they could qualify for the bail outs and they let Insurance Companies in on the bail outs to . The regulated Banks had greater reserve requirements
but they had passed the faulty loans to Wall Street to get rid of .
And allowing insurance companies to bet on credit default
swaps without any reserves to back it (LIKE AIG ),is the kind of leeway Wall Street wants ,fake games in which if they don’t
pan out the taxpayers has to buy AIG so they can make all the gambling bets good . So we bailed out unregulated entities with bogus reserve requirement using unheard of leverage that regulated banks could never use .

So ,the reforms didn’t change the casinos or the games .They should just go back to how it was before de-regulation because that system serves us well for about 70 years . But Wall Street wouldn’t like that because it would limit their ability to make money . Regulated Banks wouldn’t like it because they would be limited on the kind of games they can play or products they can get into . Insurance Companies /Regulated Banks / Wall Street Investment Banks are now all meshed together ,and the reserves are not the same as they were before de-regulation .
This is the system that sets up to big to fall ,yet they didn’t
reform it to take away the TBTF factor .

While I agree that gamblers,speculators ,investors should just fall ,if the Casino they go to is to big to fall ,than it’s the casino that needs a overhaul and regulation .Just my 2 cents .

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Comment by polly
2011-02-28 06:22:07

That is not actually good enough. What you need is for everyone to *believe* that they won’t get a bail out if another crisis happens which is what causes them not to make one in the first place. Since the last crisis was bailed out, there is really no way to convince them that they will be allowed to fail as long as they remain as large as they are. Unless you are really eager to see the carnage that would result. I admit that is not entirely unappealing, but in the end the carnage hurts the big guys, but hurts the little ones much, much more. Some judicious regulation is the only real option this soon after a bail out.

My preference is that anyone who puts together a securitization package be required to keep on their own books (unhedged) the riskiest 10% of the deal and that commerical and consumer banking be completely separated from investment banking and trading desks. Oh, and a side dish of credit default swaps and other specialized derivatives traded on a public exchanges. But, you know, that is just me.

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 08:14:43

What is the expression? “Capitalism without bankruptcy is like heaven without hell.”

The bailouts have all been intended to resist the pain the system must go through. In the end it will probably be much worse.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 09:53:48

Reading about Ireland, I’m not sure I agree. Even the capitalist in Ireland will be suffering for a generation to come.

 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 08:40:41

Well ,I’m on the same page as you Polly as what need to be done ,course I would even go further.

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Comment by polly
2011-02-28 08:44:49

But those three would be a nifty downpayment.

What else would you like to see? I love talking financial regulations. It isn’t like we are going to get the real thing out of Congress any time soon, so maintaining an active fantasy life is important. ;)

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:13:01

Well Polly ,isn’t that the problem ,we don’t get what is needed out of Congress any time soon . I wouldn’t say it’s fantasy to expect that the right thing be done ,in a timely manner ,I would say it’s critical for the right thing to be done .

If people stop talking about the right thing being done ,I guess
it even more so puts it on the list of lets close our eyes and
maybe it will go away list .

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 10:00:08

Polly …I would take the system back to how it was set up
prior to say 1995 . Just as simple as that . I don’t really care how that would affect current systems . Doesn’t mean you couldn’t have securities .

 
Comment by polly
2011-02-28 16:52:02

Actually, 1995 would solve a lot of problems. A lot of the financial instruments that blew up the worst didn’t even exisit back then. People were playing games with various structures to get around mutual fund fee regulations, but that was (and is) merely unfair, not a threat to the system.

 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-02-28 09:49:46

“That is not actually good enough. What you need is for everyone to *believe* that they won’t get a bail out if another crisis happens which is what causes them not to make one in the first place.”

Maybe what we need is a constitutional amendment that outlaws bailouts of all flavors—and specifically calls out that bailouts of banks and the financial sector are included in the prohibition.

If it were just a law, Congress would just change the law when the next banking crisis erupts. A constitutional amendment would take far too long to reverse, so the “belief” in no future bailouts should be fairly widespread.

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 14:11:57

It use to be that they had real great ways of handling risk in the market ,they rated risk accordingly . I think this was really a issue of them not wanting to stick to the normal risk weighting and rating of it and proper underwriting .

If a insurance company didn’t weight risk ,it would go out of business real fast . So in spite of giving a no down loan to a unqualified buyer on a loan ,which should have a risk rating of FFF they were throwing that junk into AAA bundles of loans .

The lending industry use to make a person put more down if they were weighed for increased risk ,or they made the person
get PMI insurance to offset the risk . A investor had to put more down and pay more for the loan as to offset the risk that a investor would be more risk. A person who couldn’t show their income had to put more down or be limited to what income they could verify as income .

During the boom they thought of these creative ways to avoid the need for PMI insurance (the PMI company would of rejected the loan package anyway ) It’s as if the industry created a way that they could act self-insured ,because they knew they were going to pass it to the secondary market
whereby god knows what the rating would be put on it .
Jut like they wanted to by pass proper recording ,they wanted to bypass proper underwriting and the weighting of risk (that whats underwriting is ,the weighting of risk ).

They came up with the crazy underwriting where they were qualifying based on the teaser rate (that was only
short term ) instead of qualifying on the adjusted up rate .
They tried to create loans qualifying by giving the option of
tacking the interest on the principal balance repeatedly .
They made no doc loans ,with very little down ,when there should of of been huge down payments for loans like that.
Add to all that ,if the person didn’t qualify with those tricks they just produced a fake loan based on fake data . They breached their duty to verify and prevent fraud . I could go on and on .

Wall Street would like you to think that risk didn’t have to be underwritten in the normal fashion as if all risk was based on real estate always goes up ,so it didn’t matter if the borrower didn’t qualify .

Than Wall Street Players think they could come along and than bet on the bundles going bad ,the bundles that where mis=rated on risk It’s absurd ,the whole Ponzi Scheme was absurd ,only something a criminal would do .

It use to crack me up when they were saying they were re-pricing risk , More accurate to say that that never did price risk to begin with ,and the scheme was coming undone .

You can’t turn a loan ,which has very defined principals for underwriting and risk ratings on the risk into risk will be misrepresented ,no standards are required ,its all about illusion .

 
 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-02-28 07:32:46

Well, regulation does provide faith in the market. After all, with every attempt to reign in the evildoers the announced goal is to restore faith in the market. Is that the problem?

How about one regulation? Whoever you do business with in finance is required to say, up front in plain language, that they are trying to cheat you and steal your money, and anything else they say is a lie.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 08:43:52

WT Economist …LOL RIght ,a new disclosure document should be signed stating what you said and filed with the County recorder .

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Comment by butters
2011-02-28 09:14:20

plain language

What would all the lawyers do then?

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Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 07:35:01

So you’re saying that really stupid people should be responsible for themselves? Gettouttahere…

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 07:55:10

Exactly.

reminds me of the “regulations” in the ghetto or at the shooting range:

You “regulate” yourself,

or else…

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:02:04

That’s funny ,thats what half the Government thought was going on ,that Wall Street was capable of regulating themselves .

So,if a investor is lied to ,its the investors fault . If a person gets taken down by a large scale Ponzi-scheme it was the
investors fault . If you relied on AAA ratings that were false on the risks its the Investors fault ,not the entity that gave the false rating or conspired with rating agencies to this misrepresentation.
If you buy a car and the breaks fail ,its the car-buyers fault
because they bought the car at their own risk ,never mind they were represented that the new car had good breaks .

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Comment by mathguy
2011-02-28 13:23:39

Uhh, actually, if the TARP and QE bailouts hadn’t passed, that self regulation *would have* happened.. Politicians were just afraid of what would happened when the dominos fell. You might think I’m crazy, but what if the FDIC didn’t exist? Right now, people drop their entire life savings into a single bank. They have basically 0 thought process regarding the safety of their money.

As I’ve said before, that feeling of security because of gov’t regs is a lie. And since the sheeple buy right into it, the banksters have free reign with all of their money. Oh sorry, I forgot, it’s too much to ask people to be responsible for (managing) their own well being.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 14:26:34

As I’ve said before, that feeling of security because of gov’t regs is a lie.

Wrong. It’s not a lie when government actually regulates. You see one of the most important parts of capitalism is trust. Why do you think 3rd world corrupt countries don’t advance? There is no trust. Look. In a developed country, citizens should not have to dodge dangers as in Sudan. When people constantly have to watch their backs, transactions slow, money velocity slows, credit contracts and economic activity collapses.

it’s too much to ask people to be responsible for (managing) their own well being.

Take a look at 3rd world c%$p holes. Is it too much to “ask those people to be responsible for (managing) their own well being?” Of course not, they have to. Look where it gets them. Brazil escaped the global banking meltdown because it has some of the toughest banking regulations in the world. At Davos in 09 Brazil was being called the grown-ups and the they were saying the world should learn a lesson from their tough regulation.

Our banking regulations, laws and property rights were the envy of the word for 50 years until they were dismantled the past 20 years.

It’s history. It’s facts. And now it is verifiable, and no objectivist pseudo-philosophy (that has worked nowhere) can disprove it.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 15:21:59

In 1980, the Savings & Loan industry was deregulated. Within in 10 years, it collapsed.

In 1999 the Gramm/Leach Act was passed and the year after 2000, the Commodities Modernization Act was passed. Again, within tens years the financial system collapsed.

I’m sure it was just a coincidence. :roll:

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 19:53:11

Also ,FDIC would not of gone down because regulated banks
passed a lot of the bad paper to the secondary market . The
Bail outs were really for Investment Banks and other entities more so than regulated banks ,however some got caught holding the bag .

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 02:31:36

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 15:21:59
In 1980, the Savings & Loan industry was deregulated. Within in 10 years, it collapsed.

In 1999 the Gramm/Leach Act was passed and the year after 2000, the Commodities Modernization Act was passed. Again, within tens years the financial system collapsed.

I’m sure it was just a coincidence.
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You harassing the right-wingers with those pesky facts again, eco? ;)

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 00:46:56

* U.S. NEWS
* FEBRUARY 23, 2011, 2:29 P.M. ET

Fed’s Hoenig: Easy Money and ‘Too Big to Fail’ Must End
By LUCA DI LEO And BRADLEY DAVIS

WASHINGTON—A top Federal Reserve official said that the central bank was risking a new financial crisis with its easy-money policies and that the U.S. must end its implicit “too-big-to-fail” guarantee for the biggest financial institutions.

Kansas City Fed President Thomas Hoenig, one of the Fed’s most outspoken internal critics, warned that monetary policy should be tailored “so you don’t overshoot and cause the next crisis.”

Mr. Hoenig, taking questions following a Wednesday speech at a Women in Housing and Finance lunch, voted against the Fed’s easy-money policies throughout 2010. He is concerned that very low interest rates will harm the economy by causing prices to rise suddenly or by creating speculative asset bubbles, like the housing one behind the 2008 financial crisis.

Most Fed officials disagree, arguing that low interest rates are needed because unemployment remains so high 18 months after the recession ended, while inflation is still low.

The central bank needs to think about the long-term implications of its actions, Mr. Hoenig said. Monetary policy is a “powerful tool” that can have “unintended consequences.” He pointed out the recent crisis came about following a period of very low rates.

In his remarks, Mr. Hoenig said the U.S. must end its “too-big-to-fail” guarantee or it is doomed once again to face a crisis.

Comment by michael
2011-02-28 08:10:21

“A top Federal Reserve official said that the central bank was risking a new financial crisis with its easy-money policies and that the U.S. must end its implicit “too-big-to-fail” guarantee for the biggest financial institutions.”

basically…the bernanke is sitting at a roulette table…betting on red the entire time…doubling down at every loss.

the table’s bet limit = the bond market.

sooner or later he’s gonna hit the limit.

Comment by patrick
2011-02-28 20:38:00

Totally agree. We have to ask where easy money has gone - stocks and refis. Also, do you really believe the recession is over with?

 
 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 10:58:23

Everyone is calling for regulation. We all know the system is broken. But I do honestly believe it will take people in the streets (a la Wisconsin) for there to be any change.

Anything else, and the bankers are just…laughing all the way to the bank.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 04:07:18

Fewer in US deem home-ownership a safe investment
* Attitude shifts likely to cause rents to rise
* Nearly 3/4 believe mortgages harder to obtain in future

WASHINGTON, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Home-ownership as an investment is no longer the rock-solid foundation for the American Dream it once was, according to a survey released on Monday by the firm the government created in the 1930s to promote home-ownership.

Fewer than two in three Americans now think owning their own home is a safe investment, down sharply from more than four out of five who thought it was a good investment less than a decade ago.

That attitude shift is likely to cause rents to rise as more Americans opt for renting over buying, according to the latest quarterly survey of attitudes toward homeownership from Fannie Mae , the largest provider of U.S. home mortgage funds.

The National Housing Quarterly Survey found just 64 percent of Americans think owning their own home is a safe investment, down from 70 percent at the beginning of last year and sharply lower than the 83 percent who thought it was a safe investment in 2003.

Last week, data released by the National Association of Realtors showed that home sales rose for third straight month in January, while the median home price fell to its lowest since April 2002.

An overhang of foreclose properties is weighing down the property market even as the broader economy appears to have entered a sustainable growth path.

“The public is aware that the demand side increase is going to be in the rental market, not the housing (purchase) market,” Doug Duncan, chief economist at Fannie Mae, said in a telephone interview.

Comment by arizonadude
2011-02-28 06:23:30

Just a few years ago your were a loser if you didnt own a home.Oh how times have changed so fast.

Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 06:31:47

This is what bottoms look like, when what used to be hot is not.

Not saying that we are there yet, but this is a signpost one should expect to see on the way down.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:33:18

How much longer until it finally dawns on the sheeple that high-risk, highly-leveraged, individually-owned residential real estate truly is the worst possible investment?

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-02-28 07:00:10

And PB’s post is yet another signpost. We may be closer to the bottom than anyone thinks.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 07:23:23

Maybe I am oversimplifying, but I expect a pricing bottom to follow clearing of the financial imbalances, not preceed it. Besides, we’re just bouncing off the first step of a flight of stairs.

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Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 07:54:02

I think we are closer to the top of the fake recovery than anything else.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 15:24:25

:lol: I have to agree with that!

 
 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 10:41:10

“And PB’s post is yet another signpost. We may be closer to the bottom than anyone thinks.”

Yeah, bottoms are always reached when shadow inventories are at their highest level, and rising. Who are you kidding?

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Comment by cobaltblue
2011-02-28 07:04:19

“How much longer until it finally dawns on the sheeple”

Other signposts along the way should include such events as Larry Yun and David Lereah doing Public Service Announcements on late-night TV.

Just picture scenes of abandoned crapshack developments in Stockton, CA , Dade County, FL and Phoenix, AZ - then narration by Yun and Lereah - “In January 2006, over One Million Two Hundred and Sixty-Five Thousand Americans were carriers of Realtor Syndrome. Today, that number is improving”. A musical underscore of cello in a minor key would help capture the doleful mood.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:54:51

More and more, it looks like the “real estate always goes up” crowd is dead wrong.

The Financial Times
Pessimism revealed on US housing market
By Suzanne Kapner in New York
Published: February 28 2011 11:31 | Last updated: February 28 2011 11:31

People in the US are more pessimistic about the outlook for the housing market than a year ago, according to new data from Fannie Mae, the government-owned mortgage finance company.

Fewer people predicted that home prices would rise over the next 12 months, and more people said buying a home was not a safe investment, compared with the results from a similar survey in January 2010.

Doug Duncan, Fannie Mae’s chief economist, said that the downbeat sentiment was particularly striking against the backdrop of government policies designed to help home owners, such as loan modification programmes and low mortgage rates.

He said: “Even with all of these policy solutions that have been thrown at the housing market, people’s attitudes have not improved”.

EDITOR’S CHOICE
Fed lifts 2011 economic growth forecast - Feb-16
Housing uncertainty holds back US retail sales - Feb-15
US homeowners’ racial gap widens - Feb-16
Lex: China’s US mortgages - Feb-14
White House seeks wind down of Fannie and Freddie - Feb-11

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 07:43:18

Home ownership was NEVER a “rock-solid” foundation of the American dream. A stable job is the rock-solid foundation.

Education is merely a means toward obtaining a stable job.
Home ownership is merely a sign that you already have a stable job.

Take away the stable jobs (as coporations have been doing for a generation), and NO amount of education or home ownership is going to achieve the American Dream.

And my recollection of the American Dream was “home ownership, not “investment” in home ownership, which is something else entirely.

Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 08:00:23

“A stable job is the rock-solid foundation.”

Bingo! A stable job means a steady flow of incoming cash, and a steady cashflow makes many things possible.

Cash …

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:20:49

I agree oxide ,a job and income flown is the foundation of everything . Lending based on fake income flow and lair loans
and faulty lending is just fake leverage dollars to pump up
housing and turn it into a a get rich quick scheme ,than it crashes

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Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 12:22:50

Can I just add that the other component to this is that there was generally a house to fit almost any income level, even if it was just a old shack.

Here’s a statistic I’d like to see. What percentage of people buy a house eventually? It’s certainly a lot higher than the 70% ownership time snapshot.

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Comment by Awaiting
2011-02-28 10:20:07

oxide-
Well said. We’re house hunting and no contigency for financing, and the REIC is ignoring that absolute fact. They are telling us all cash is no big deal, there is no longer a cyclical selling season, and there is 4 buyers for 1 home if it’s priced correctly. Our reply is “where’s the jobs?” to support their fantasy. They say there is a flood of fence sitters, but they a jumpy about having their job next year. So guys (REIC), you can’t have it both ways. I get dizzy from the spin.

Granted, inventory is slim, but Agents who I casually meet and know we’re not a commission stream, are telling me buyers are scarce.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 13:00:19

Don”t believe them that cash is no big deal . If your a cash buyer your not a buyer that is worried about losing their job .Yes they like to have the spin both ways .

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Comment by Awaiting
2011-02-28 14:12:20

Thanks, Housing Wizard.
I just refuse to believe that paying cash isn’t a plus for the seller or agents.They say, in the end, everyone has a check in hand, so you guys are no big deal. I call BS. We are leaving out a stream of deal breakers.

We will have the house inspected for issues, including pests. Thanks for your insight.

Az Slim,
Thanks for the one-up on using a Buyer’s Agent Inspector. Especially paying all cash! Hey, a financial storm is a’comin, and so is old age.

 
 
 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 02:39:29

Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 07:43:18
Home ownership was NEVER a “rock-solid” foundation of the American dream. A stable job is the rock-solid foundation.

Education is merely a means toward obtaining a stable job.
Home ownership is merely a sign that you already have a stable job.

Take away the stable jobs (as coporations have been doing for a generation), and NO amount of education or home ownership is going to achieve the American Dream.

And my recollection of the American Dream was “home ownership, not “investment” in home ownership, which is something else entirely.
———————–

Great post, oxide.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 09:16:14

Fewer in US deem home-ownership a safe investment

This, people, is the real sleeper story in the housing debacle that we’ve been discussing for lo these many years. Once people’s attitudes start to shift, well, look for a major rewrite of the “American dream of homeownership” story.

 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 09:32:09

So if more people are going to become renters, then who are all these new landlords?

I’ve asked this question before on HBB:
at what point are the scales tipped (owners vs. renters) that a society becomes feudal?
50% owners/50% renters?
60% owners/40% renters
70% owners/30% renters

I understand the perils of encouraging homeownership by allowing people who can’t afford it to take on massive amounts of debt - but as this bubble unwinds it seems like just another way for a small amount of the population to own a larger amount of the wealth.

More renters can’t possibly mean more everyday folks becoming landlords, not in this economy.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 13:05:32

Thats a good point sfrenter . Normally there would not of been more units built than were needed . But now you have more rental units
or owner-occupied units how ever anybody thinks they can use them .
If you have investors buying units to rent and there is only so many that will rent those units than you will have a oversupply of rentals .

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 04:33:05

Rubber Rebounding 32% as Reserve Drop Drives Michelin Costs
(Reuters)

Rubber’s 15 percent slump in about a week may be the prelude to rallies to a record high, driving up the cost of everything from Michelin tires to surgical gloves.

Harvests in Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia, the biggest growers, will fail to meet demand for a second year in 2011, leaving stockpiles equal to 69 days of demand, the lowest in more than a decade, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. estimates. Prices may advance as much as 32 percent to 605 yen a kilogram ($7,407 a metric ton) by December, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg survey of 10 analysts and traders.

Bridgestone Corp. and Michelin & Cie., the world’s biggest tire makers, are boosting prices by as much as 15 percent, and Top Glove Corp., the largest rubber-glove producer, is charging more. The rally in rubber mirrors the 93 percent advance in the S&P GSCI Agriculture Index since its June low caused by floods from Canada to Australia and droughts in China and Russia.

While that’s bad news for consumers, it means “the best price I’ve ever seen,” said Saneh Panpipat, 54, who tends about 2,000 rai (320 hectares) of rubber trees in southern Thailand, the country’s main growing region. “My staff and many farmers who were unable to afford their own cars now have brand-new Toyota or Isuzu pickup trucks.”

Comment by palmetto
2011-02-28 05:50:08

“My staff and many farmers who were unable to afford their own cars now have brand-new Toyota or Isuzu pickup trucks.”

Hey, Saneh, you’re catching on! Glad we could help.

Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 07:57:05

Sounds like a “boom”. Bust will include used Toyota and Isuzu’s going cheap.

Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 15:21:12

Isuzu did drop out of the US market two years ago…

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Comment by polly
2011-02-28 05:53:26

If a large chunk of the pressure on prices comes from the increasing demand in the developing world, how would increasing interest rates in just the US (decreasing demand here by making consumption through borrowing more expensive) help that much? Wouldn’t all the central banks, specifically the ones in the countries whose booming economies are leading to much more demand, need to increase rates? I get that quantitative easing plays some role, but it occurs to me that gazillions of new cars in China needing tires is also a really big part of this.

Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 06:08:38

“I get that gadzillions of new cars in China needing tires is also a really big part of this.”

There it is. The price inflation we see about us is due to the rising prices of raw materials. Take a look at what China is buying up around the globe: It’s raw materials.

China is able to buy these raw materials up because the Western World sent them the money to do so. Now the cash-starved Western World is competing for these raw materials with the cash-flush Chineese economy.

Comment by polly
2011-02-28 06:11:39

And out QE plays into that, but it isn’t remotely all of it. The money is already there. We did it over the last decade. So who has the monetary policy chops to slow this down? Does anyone? Because, as always, countries do what is best for themselves (or the people currently in power anyway) not what will help the world.

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Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 06:21:17

“The money is already there. We did it over the last decade.”

True dat! When we sent to China over the past decade or so a trillion-or-so of ”worthless unbacked fiats” we were in fact sending to China trillions-or-so of very real and solid claims on assets. Now China is cashing in some of those claims.

They have an abundant supply of dollars, we are short of dollars. They get to buy up what they need, we get to do without.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 06:27:28

We not only sent to China cash, we sent to China the mechanisms to create cash flow; We sent to China jobs and technology.

We are truly a nation of dummies.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 07:13:31

China exported assets to the US. The US exported debt and inflation to China. Our appetite for crappy kitchen appliances and drywall is going away. A brighter outlook for us, a bleaker one for the Chinese.

Let them eat Michelin.

 
Comment by Rancher
2011-02-28 07:13:54

Not if you want instant gratification.

 
Comment by palmetto
2011-02-28 07:25:59

“Let them eat Michelin.”

Yep, the paper tiger ain’t all it is cracked up to be.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 07:49:27

“Our appetite for crappy kitchen appliances and drywall is going away.”

Not any time soon, I am afraid. Yesterday I had a horrible thought: Our nation’s exposure to Chinese quality has trained the latest generation(s) not to take care of things because they are disposable. In other words, the average person would not even know how to keep a quality appliance or tool properly maintained/cared-for because they just assume it will break in a year and they will simply replace it with a new one. There will be no market for quality, just price.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 08:25:55

What trained me the most was the complete lack of parts and repair shops for old things. You couldn’t repair your appliance even if you wanted to. You would have to wait at least a week for parts and pay through the nose anyway. Plus, technology is moving so fast that even in a year, the new cheap model is a little better than the old quality model, especially for electronics.

It should be interesting to see what happens when cars go so electronic that it’s impossible to fix them. Will we reach the point when it’s cheaper to throw out the old car and buy a new one?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 08:43:59

“Will we reach the point when it’s cheaper to throw out the old car and buy a new one?”

I just spent $600 getting some repairs done on one of the cars. The first real repairs in the 6 years we’ve had it.

A lot cheaper than buying a new car.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 08:46:30

Oxide, the internet is a powerful tool for us old fashioned fixers. I am regularly fixing things that are decades old and it is a joy to have instant access and quick delivery on obscure repair parts.

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 08:53:27

“I am regularly fixing things that are decades old and it is a joy to have instant access and quick delivery on obscure repair parts.”

and old things were constructed with repair in mind; made of metal or wood with things like screws…

Ive owned atleast 4 of those space aged plastic floor vacs in the last 12 years. My parents still have the same canister electrolux I grew up with.

 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 09:35:51

It will cost $300 to fix our 5 year old Kenmore (crap) dishwasher. I think we bought it for about that much.

If it were up to me, I’d buy a decent, more expensive dishwasher, but the landlady will probably only approve us for another $300 cheapy.

As a renter, I love not paying for it when things break, but can’t stand the cheap attitude many landlords have when it comes to repairing and replacing things in rentals.

Besides,the dishwasher has been broken for months now and she is dragging her feet.

 
Comment by DF
2011-02-28 09:42:40

Agreed with Blue Skye — I thought laptops were essentially disposable until I discovered that no-name small-time vendors in China will sell you all any kind of laptop part you want/need on eBay. I was even able to successfully fix the broken glass screen on my wife’s iPod Touch for a bit less than $15 (I did *not* expect to be able to do this).

Similarly, a good collection of adhesives/glues/epoxies goes a long way in allowing one to fix anything.

 
Comment by Elanor
2011-02-28 12:18:37

A while ago, I treated myself to a pair of Felco garden pruners. They are made in Switzerland and are pretty pricey. Over the years, the cutting blade has dulled and they got very gummed up and grungy-looking.

A local garden shop advertised a seminar on caring for Felco pruners. So last Saturday I spent an hour and a half learning how to disassemble, clean, reassemble and adjust them. It turns out that every part on the tools is replaceable. They now look nearly new and are very sharp. I was so inspired that when I got home I cleaned, oiled and sharpened several other garden tools using the diamond sharpening files we bought as part of the class fee.

The class was taught by a man in his 70s. I have to wonder who will be around in 20 years to teach such a class?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 12:27:56

DF, agree. In fact Scotch Tape got 3M through the Depression, because people couldn’t afford to buy new.

On a side note, I have been able to obtain some replacement parts: a vacuum belt, a new food processor bowl, and a new meter for an exercise machine. Gotta admit, I’m not sure what I would have done with an iPod!

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 13:12:33

This is the part about the new cheap crap that I hate the most .The junk isn’t really worth the so-called lower price because it doesn’t last as long . Industry loves it when you have to keep
buying buying buying ,replacing replacing replacing .

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:02:04

It’s called “churn.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:06:09

sfrenter, landlords are cheap because many renters are abusive and uncaring of their rental.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:13:12

“Will we reach the point when it’s cheaper to throw out the old car and buy a new one?”

Yes.

In the last year of my last vehicle, I spent enough in repairs to have paid cash for the my next vehicle. The old one was going on 18 years.

Granted, my next one was another newer, used vehicle, but in terms of reliability, comfort and efficiency, it was a giant leap forward.

I just wished I had bought it a year earlier.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 02:53:12

Ive owned atleast 4 of those space aged plastic floor vacs in the last 12 years. My parents still have the same canister electrolux I grew up with.
—————

Same thing here. We’ve gone through lots of plastic vacuum cleaners, but my mom’s Electrolux cannister vacuum cleaner lasted from before I was born until she passed away a few years ago — I sold it at her estate sale.

Oh, how I wish we had quality goods like that again!

 
 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 08:46:31

Here is Jeff Rubin 2009 climate change conference.

He says “peak oil” is when ever you can no longer afford it (even if its all over the place)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYuLjGQQ-jg

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Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 11:08:51

$3.81 gallon here in NorCal.

whoa.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 12:31:02

The Peak Oil crisis will not start when supply of oil runs out a la Mad Max. It will begin when demand exceeds supply. Even 5% difference will skyrocket the prices to where large parts of the world won’t be able to afford it. That’s why Peak Oilers are so intent on finding the exact peak; the crisis will begin immediately after.

 
Comment by Awaiting
2011-02-28 19:48:19

So Ca - Just saw $3.95 premium cash/$4.05 credit, on the way home tonight.
Is this a fear bubble or peak oil rearing its ugly head?

 
 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2011-02-28 09:51:06

I miss the old b/w newsreels of China that showed gadzillions of bicycles. Somehow, gadzillions of new cars just ain’t the same!

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 11:20:15

“China is able to buy these raw materials up because the Western World sent them the money to do so. Now the cash-starved Western World is competing for these raw materials with the cash-flush Chineese economy.”

Fantasy. China’s buying up raw materials to build out entire cities the size of Philadelphia monthly, completely devoid of people, and largely with money printed out of thin air. While they certainly made progress in the low-cost global manufacturing arena (which is quickly eroding due to inflation) their “boom” is almost entirely due to a massive infusion of cheap cash, not unlike our housing bubble. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, but China is toast.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 07:41:46

how would increasing interest rates in just the US (decreasing demand here by making consumption through borrowing more expensive) help that much? Wouldn’t all the central banks, specifically the ones in the countries whose booming economies are leading to much more demand, need to increase rates?

USA increasing interest rates would put pressure on other central banks to raise interest rates (if they wanted to sell their bonds) because more people would want to buy US bonds because of our comparatively higher payout.

I get that quantitative easing plays some role, but it occurs to me that gazillions of new cars in China needing tires is also a really big part of this.

There is no doubt that your point is correct. Brazil, China, India, etc. The demand for limited commodities is rising quickly.

Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 07:47:31

“The demand for limited commodities is rising quickly.”

Which makes to really tough for those without the money to effectively compete for these limited commodities.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 08:11:19

Combo, are you suggesting that the people who are buying all these commodities are the rich, who already have all they need for personal consumption, in the hope that they can in future sell at even a higher price to those who already cannot afford them?

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 14:50:52

It’s not “buying all these commodities,” it’s “playing commodities.” It’s playtime for the pigs, at the expense of those who are just trying to eat and survive.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 02:55:00

Totally agree, Grizzly.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 15:37:52

That is one confusing article.

First it says there’s a slump. Then it says there’s a rally.

Then is mentions a whole lot of “maybes”.

But the kicker? A Goldman Sachs report. Nope, no pumping here.

As for price, there was just a huge increase a few years ago. Something like 30% in my area. Thanks guys.

Yet we have mountains of old tires that can be recycled and we now have the technology to do it cheaply and safely.

Just more BOHICA.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 04:39:14

(Reuters) - Northern Rock, the bank nationalised during the credit crisis, is preparing to launch a series of mortgages that offer up to 90 percent of a property’s value, the Financial Times reported on Monday.

It said the lender could make the riskier new high loan-to-value mortgages available as early as Monday, citing unnamed people familiar with the plans.

Northern Rock was nationalised three years ago after becoming the first major British bank in more than 150 years to suffer a bank run.

The government has long been keen on returning the bank to the private sector, since selling it would raise cash to help cut the country’s troublesome deficit.

Options for Northern Rock include a sale, stock market flotation or “remutualisation” — turning Northern Rock into a company owned by its customers, such as UK loans and savings group Nationwide.

 
Comment by palmetto
2011-02-28 05:46:49

My sis sent me an article by Tyler Durden, entitled “Analysis of the Global Insurrection Against Neo-Liberal Economic Domination and the Coming American Rebellion”. It’s rather long, but here’s the part of the summation I liked, because it enumerates the remedies for the people:

“When revolution returns to America, the point won’t be to take down a figure head puppet politician like Mubarak or Obama, mere public relations moves will not suffice. We will take down the system behind them. We will take down the global banks, break them up, end the campaign finance racket, end closed-door lobbying, end the system of political bribery, end the two-party oligarchy, remove puppet judges who voted for unlimited spending by private economic elites, end corporate welfare and the various financial rackets which loot national wealth at the expense of the people.

“All countries are basically social arrangements, accommodations to changing circumstances. No matter how permanent and even sacred they may seem at any one time,
in fact they are all artificial and temporary.”
– Strobe Talbott

We must enact common sense polices to deter organized corruption. The devil is always in the details, so rain RICO laws down upon them.

They shall reap what they sow.”

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:17:19

13,000 years of recorded history says “fat chance.”

The BEST we might be able to do is to dampen and reign it in a bit.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 02:57:13

I really, really wish that would happen, Palmy. Just not sure we have the guts.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 06:31:56

DUBLIN: The new Irish government is headed for a confrontation with the European Union over the country’s austerity program after voters rejected the previous government, which negotiated the EU bailout of Ireland.

The incoming Prime Minister, Enda Kenny, will warn the leaders of France and Germany that the massive backlash by Irish voters at the weekend against the austerity program means the EU’s €85 billion ($115 billion) bailout of Ireland must be renegotiated.

Mr Kenny, the leader of the Fine Gael party, hailed a ”democratic revolution” after voters at the weekend hammered a government blamed for a catastrophic economic collapse and loss of sovereignty to the EU.

The ruling Fianna Fail party was virtually wiped out in the election, losing more than 50 seats in its worst election result in 85 years. Fianna Fail, which has ruled Ireland for 61 of the past 80 years, was reduced to the country’s third party. The Greens, Fianna Fail’s coalition partner, lost all their seats.

But Ireland’s attempt to renegotiate the deal will put it on collision course with the European Central Bank and the European Commission, which are opposed to Irish efforts to get investors to take a ‘’substantial discount” on €20 billion of bank debt.

Ireland votes out the thieves and we vote in more republicans. And I thought the Irish were the drunks….

Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2011-02-28 15:48:58

The ruling Fianna Fail party was virtually wiped out in the election

They should rename it the Epic Fail party.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:23:37

:lol: +1

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:34:26

Really Bad Reporting in Wisconsin: Who ‘Contributes’ to Public Workers’ Pensions?

David Cay Johnston | Feb. 24, 2011 12:16 PM EST

When it comes to improving public understanding of tax policy, nothing has been more troubling than the deeply flawed coverage of the Wisconsin state employees’ fight over collective bargaining.

Economic nonsense is being reported as fact in most of the news reports on the Wisconsin dispute, the product of a breakdown of skepticism among journalists multiplied by their lack of understanding of basic economic principles.

Gov. Scott Walker says he wants state workers covered by collective bargaining agreements to “contribute more” to their pension and health insurance plans.

Accepting Gov. Walker’ s assertions as fact, and failing to check, created the impression that somehow the workers are getting something extra, a gift from taxpayers. They are not.

Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin’ s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.

How can that be? Because the “contributions” consist of money that employees chose to take as deferred wages – as pensions when they retire – rather than take immediately in cash. The same is true with the health care plan. If this were not so a serious crime would be taking place, the gift of public funds rather than payment for services.

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:00:07

I’ve tried to explain this here and on Piggington’s. There is a tremendous amount of ignorance WRT public sector benefits. Their healthcare plans and pensions are part of their total compensation package, and are negotiated for as part of a total package of compensation. They give up some things in order to get others. They are getting nothing for “free.”

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:40:56

Sound Money

Henry Ford once said, “It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

Are you confused by all the talk about monetary policy, fiat money and inflation? You’re not alone. Bankers and politicians have worked hand in hand for many decades to obscure their activities from the public. They hide behind elaborate structures designed to inflate the money supply while creating the false impression that they are looking out for our best interests.

Inflation is a very simple concept to understand: More money = less value. It may seem contradictory but it’s very straightforward.

For illustration purposes, join me on a brief journey of the imagination. One beautiful morning, you wake up and realize that you own twice as much cash as you had just last night. Magic money elves entered your home and bank account and simply doubled your entire cash assets. You’re now twice as wealthy (or half as poor as the case may be).

But you soon realize that the same thing happened to everyone else in the country. The money supply (total amount of money) has doubled! It’s just a one-time event and your regular income remains the same… you just got lucky this one time. It’s okay to dream, so stay with me.

What happens next? If you’re like most people, you probably start spending. You buy things you always wanted to buy but couldn’t afford. You pay back some debts. You buy stocks. In other words, you put the new money into circulation. So do most other people in the country.

Demand for many products increases because a lot more people can afford them now. Consumers are buying so much stuff that some shortages occur. To protect themselves against these shortages, shops and businesses decide to increase their prices. They know that once prices go up, fewer people will be competing to buy the same products, and the situation will be back to normal.

As a side effect of these higher prices, shop owners start earning higher profits than usual. They have more money in their bank accounts, which allows them to increase their spending. They will invest in new stock or expand their business. They might pay out dividends to their investors and bonuses to their employees, allowing these people to buy more products as well. This additional demand puts even more pressure on other shops to increase their prices.

A few months later, prices of almost everything have gone up. Suppliers and manufacturers are faced with the same threat of too much sudden demand from their clients so they too decide to start charging more.

You went on a one-time buying spree and look what happened! Your income stayed the same, but after a few weeks you can suddenly no longer afford the products you used to buy all the time because all prices in the economy have gone up.

Naturally, you demand a higher salary from your employer. If you’re self-employed or in business, you have to charge your customers more money just so that you can maintain your standard of living. Everyone else is in the same situation. Higher prices keep spreading throughout the entire economy, and it’s getting more and more difficult to make a living.

Can you see how this lucky one-time incident which at first seemed so exciting was extremely harmful not just for you but for the entire country? You briefly had a good time but now you’re worse off than before. In our story there are now twice as many dollars in circulation, but your income remains the same and each dollar you earn is worth only about half as much as it used to be. You’re really hoping for those money elves to come back.

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:03:13

Exactly what has caused our current “pension crisis.” (But you already knew that.) ;)

Too much money entered the system too quickly. Promises were made that were not sustainable over the long run.

BTW, I’m sure most public employees would gladly roll their comensation back to 1995 levels if they could regain their 1995 purchasing power (including assets).

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:45:17

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac at fault in housing fiasco
By FROMA HARROP
Feb. 22, 2011, 8:49PM

Not Seattle! Home prices in the “Queen City” of the Northwest were not supposed to go south. This isn’t Miami, Phoenix or Las Vegas, where suntanned speculators built big, borrowed big and went bust with a bang.

Yet just as the bubble markets seem to be settling (though on a still sandy bottom), property owners in formerly confident places like Seattle, Minneapolis and Atlanta are seeing their own late-in-the-downturn downturn.

Seattle home prices have fallen 31 percent from their 2007 high, according to economists at Zillow, the real estate website. Zillow thinks Seattle residential property has another 10 percent to go.

If sharp price drops can happen in Seattle, Minneapolis and Atlanta, then real estate is an even riskier investment than previously imagined. But while this development is not good for sellers, it offers a valuable lesson to us all.

Government policies have helped whip up home prices in both bubbly and seemingly froth-free markets.

If Washington, D.C., really wants to help people buy homes — and I don’t see why that should be a public goal - it should let house prices fall as they may.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:30:30

As if the National Real Estate Ponzi Scheme didn’t raise all waters .
The real estate bubble went almost World Wide .

 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 11:12:34

If Washington, D.C., really wants to help people buy homes — and I don’t see why that should be a public goal - it should let house prices fall as they may.

I agree that housing prices should not be propped up…but my question still stands:

So if more people are going to become renters, then who are all these new landlords?

I’ve asked this question before on HBB:
at what point are the scales tipped (owners vs. renters) that a society becomes feudal?
50% owners/50% renters?
60% owners/40% renters
70% owners/30% renters

I understand the perils of encouraging homeownership by allowing people who can’t afford it to take on massive amounts of debt - but as this bubble unwinds it seems like just another way for a small amount of the population to own a larger amount of the wealth.

More renters can’t possibly mean more everyday folks becoming landlords, not in this economy.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 13:08:42

“Not Seattle! Home prices in the “Queen City” of the Northwest were not supposed to go south. This isn’t Miami, Phoenix or Las Vegas, where suntanned speculators built big, borrowed big and went bust with a bang.”

Apparently the person who wrote this isn’t intimately familiar with the landscape of the Northwest. The mowing down of trees for the development of miles upon miles of sh!tboxes was impossible not to see.

 
 
Comment by krazy bill
2011-02-28 06:48:34

A Union member, a tea party activist, and a CEO are sitting at a table with a plate of a dozen cookies in the middle of it. The CEO takes 11 of the cookies, turns to the tea partier and says, “Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 08:17:08

Good one Bill!

And the CEO says to the union guy: “Nevermind about that cookie. I’ve got your share safely tucked away and will turn it into 100 cookies for you. Now back to work.”

 
Comment by michael
2011-02-28 08:58:27

heh…i just posted this on my FB wall…i changed it from CEO to TBTF bankster though.

 
Comment by Sean
2011-02-28 10:48:46

Ah heck! I just posted that below. Thought I’d be the first one.

Serves me right for not reading others posts.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:05:47

Wow, it’s almost as though some of you are coming over to the dark side. ;)

Welcome, brothers and sisters! :)

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 06:51:05

Reverse Robin Hood robbery of Main Street-America by kleptocratic shock capitalists with Republican henchmen must continue!

Plain Talk: With ‘Koch’ call, it’s clear whose side Walker is on
DAVE ZWEIFEL | Cap Times editor emeritus
Monday, February 28, 2011 7:00 am

Several days ago, I had to laugh to myself when I read an early interview with Gov. Scott Walker in the New York Times.

I’m not going to be intimidated,” Walker pontificated, “particularly by people from other places.”

He then reiterated that theme when he gave his so-called “fireside chat” a few days later.

The implication, of course, was that many of those pro-union demonstrators who descended on the state Capitol weren’t really from Wisconsin. “People from other places” — outsiders, if you will — are to be dismissed by our esteemed governor.

I figured it was the height of hypocrisy for a man who owes his election to big moneyed interests from outside Wisconsin and who is supported by the likes of sleazy Web manipulators like Andrew Breitbart of Los Angeles infamy to complain about “outsiders.” What chutzpah.

And then the bombshell: the prank telephone call to Walker from someone saying he was corporate fat cat David Koch. That phone call — taped and posted on the Web — exposed once and for all how outside interests are actually influencing Walker’s union busting.

There is now mounting evidence that this entire anti-public union gambit isn’t even Walker’s own idea, but the first step in an orchestrated national campaign to destroy the power of the union movement and hence the protections they afford to ordinary American workers.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-02-28 07:05:09

Exeter’s post the other day about tracking Fraudie and Phoney listings in his ‘hood prompted me to find their websites and start doing the same thing. Very few listings in our county, but one right here in our ‘hood that seriously (and I mean seriously) undercuts current wishing prices here. It was one of those specuvestor new construction flips I’ve talked about. For its size and amenities it even undercuts the bank-owned properties on the MLS. Welcome to 2011.

 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-02-28 07:05:32

Here it comes — lower prices allowing the less well off to move into better off neighborhoods. Anyone else see this where they are? Detroit is an extreme case, but NYC is extreme the other way — it’s still a getrification trend moving out from Manhattan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41810267/ns/us_news-life/#

“There’s a way in which they look down on people moving in from Detroit into houses they bought for much lower prices,” says Grace, a 39-year-old telephone company analyst. “I understand you want to keep out the riffraff, but it’s not my fault you paid $250,000 and I paid a buck.”

“Thomas has seen the desperation of the new arrivals. His officers, handling complaints, have found two or more families living in a single house, pooling their money for rent. They have ‘no food in the refrigerator and no furniture,’ Thomas says. ‘They can’t afford the food. They can’t afford the furniture.’ But they were eager to flee the gunfire of their old neighborhoods in Detroit. The foreclosure crisis made it possible.”

“The reason suburbs are the way they are is because a certain element can’t afford to live in your community,” adds Twiggs, a 54-year-old printer. “If you have $300,000, $400,000, $500,000 homes you’re relatively secure in the fact that (the homeowners) are people who can afford it. “But when you have this crash, people who normally couldn’t afford to live in Southfield are moving in. When you have a house for $9,900 on the corner over there — that just destroys my property.”

Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 08:31:07

Dang, you got to this before I did…

 
Comment by polly
2011-02-28 08:41:01

Well, Mr. Twiggs, if you really want to get rid of the new people on your block and you know they moved there to avoid getting shot, then you could always convince them to leave by shooting at them.

Of course, then you will be expected to move into a very different neighborhood (as a guest of the state) and I don’t think you will like it or your new roommate all that much. But you will have kept your property from being destroyed by a poor person who wants to live in a safe place for at least a week or two.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:37:11

Polly …lol. . If the parties moved to the area to avoid getting shot ,at least he can be certain they weren’t the shooters.

Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 10:16:56

I find that the “troubles” people are running away from often follow close behind.

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Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:09:38

Yep, that’s how it played out in the Antelope Valley after the last RE crash. People from the inner city (Los Angeles) moved out to the desert in large numbers to “get away from the crime.” But the criminals were riding in the back seats of their cars…

 
 
 
 
Comment by Kim
2011-02-28 09:20:25

“If you have $300,000, $400,000, $500,000 homes you’re relatively secure in the fact that (the homeowners) are people who can afford it are willing to take on enormous amounts of debt relative to their incomes.

Fixed it!

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:22:50

But I thought the more I borrowed the more I would make? This is so confusing.

Comment by denquiry
2011-02-28 10:11:44

the govt doesn’t like competition.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 09:23:23

Here it comes — lower prices allowing the less well off to move into better off neighborhoods. Anyone else see this where they are? Detroit is an extreme case, but NYC is extreme the other way — it’s still a getrification trend moving out from Manhattan.

Back when I was a young pup at the University of Michigan, I became friends with a fellow who hailed from inner city Detroit. We sat next to each other in biology lectures, and he drew cartoons that absolutely had me in stitches. He went on to be the editorial cartoonist for the campus newspaper.

Well, little Slim was too dense to realize that this guy was engaging in flirtation by cartoon, but, hey, that’s just me. When it comes to romantic wooing, I’m as dense as lead.

Years later, my cartooning friend become a reporter, and, for several years, he was the Washington Post’s Africa bureau chief. He wrote a book about his not-so-pleasant African sojourn called Out of America, and I highly recommend it.

In that book, he described how his inner city Detroit neighborhood changed for the worse during the 1960s and 1970s, when lower-class people came up from the South. To the horror of his very proper mother, these people used what she called “bad language.” And they shouted at each other. Called each other names. And went out on the streets with curlers in their hair.

My friend’s parents saw what was going on and sent him out of the city to a private school in Grosse Pointe. (That’s a very ritzy suburb.) From there, he went on to the University of Michigan.

Comment by salinasron
2011-02-28 10:23:38

“African sojourn called Out of America, and I highly recommend it”

Great book that has been on my book shelf for years. Instead of all that PC crap that my kids had to read in college English I made sure it was counterbalanced with this wonderful book.

 
Comment by Kim
2011-02-28 12:09:53

Just put it on hold at my library. Thanks for yet another book tip, Slim!

 
 
Comment by Max Power
2011-02-28 12:55:40

If you’re going to buy a house, buy one with some land. That way even if you have awful neighbors you at least have a buffer. Also, having to pay a little more for the “extra” land along with the maintenance that comes with it helps weed out some of the riff raff. In the end, you can end up with bad neighbors regardless of how much you spend or how “prestigious” the neighborhood is/was.

 
 
Comment by mikey
2011-02-28 07:07:21

Local Wisconsin TV News made a vague “mention” that Wisconsin State Senator, Dale Schultz(R) might not support Walkers bill after a brief story about the protestors being allowed to stay in the Capitol overnight.

Almost like somebody is afraid to Break the News to the Sheeple.

:)

Comment by palmetto
2011-02-28 07:20:35

Good news, mikey. Walker is SUCH an idjit. What a complete boner he pulled. Looks like the POlice are with the people.

I heard some piece of fart soundbite from Walker about how he is the Commander in Chief of the National Guard, or the police or whatever, I really wasn’t paying much attention. Reminded me of Marco Rubio, when he was the House Speaker in Florida, saying his wife was entitled to certain perks because she was “the First Lady of the Florida House”.

These d*ckheads really have a grossly inflated idea of who they are. Nor do they realize that their power basically comes from the people.

Comment by mikey
2011-02-28 07:38:12

We shall see. I was hoping to talk to Shultz at town hall type meeting tonight his aids had scheduled providing it didn’t conflict with his party’s political plans.

Comment by mikey
2011-02-28 07:55:18

Thank you Govenor Walker, at least one business has been really thriving in Wisconsin thanks to you.

Protests Good Business For Local Pizza Place
Ian’s On State Attracting International Orders For Hungry Protesters
Posted: 12:52 am CST February 28, 2011

MADISON, Wis. — The protests at the capitol are attracting international attention for one local restaurant.

Ian’s Pizza By The Slice on State Street has been receiving orders for protesters at the capitol from all fifty states and nearly sixty countries.

The company was so overwhelmed on Saturday that it had to temporarily stop its usual deliveries and only take donations for protesters.

Ian’s manager said Saturday was the busiest they’ve ever been.

“We were making pizza as fast as we could. There were people outside doing our normal in-store stuff, and then just 20 pizzas at a time. Our kitchens have been really busy,” said manager Staci Fritz.

The restaurant estimates that it has been seven times busier than usual, but they are planning on taking normal delivery orders starting tomorrow.

“…orders for protesters at the capitol from all fifty states and nearly sixty countries.”

Read it again Gov….Bahwahahahaha

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Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 07:43:41

It is truly amazing that every time Republicans come into power, they overplay their hands. Republicans are much better at “politicking” but rather dismal at governing. All these newly elected Republican Governors are taking their country back! God help us.

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 08:18:38

Couldn’t that be said of both of these incompetent parties?

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Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 08:37:07

No. Dems try to play their hands are stopped by the Republican filibuster or threats to lock up the government. Dems didn’t even have a chance to overplay their hands.

The only example of overplaying I’ve seen was the DREAM Act* and that was overturned by the Dems themselves.

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*the act was sold as a means for enterprising children of illegals to go to college, but was also stuffed with provisions where illegals of any age or status could forestall deportation simply by signing up for a class or two at the local CC.

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-02-28 08:43:54

No. Dems try to play their hands are stopped by the Republican filibuster or threats to lock up the government. Dems didn’t even have a chance to overplay their hands.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh - that is a good one!

The voters saw it different than you in the last election.

 
Comment by kmo722
2011-02-28 16:17:02

wrong… voters voted how they almost always voted based on their economic situation… with 10% unemployment, the incumbent (DEM) party was tossed…. both parties equally at fault for the recession given the knuckleheads on both sides overseeing the crooks on wall street..

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 09:25:26

Both parties are good at identifying what’s wrong with the other party.

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Comment by cobaltblue
2011-02-28 11:21:16

The situation we find ourselves in is not a result of Mexicans, Chinese, Democrats, or Republicans. Its the fault of the Oligarchy, the Financial Elite, and you may be surprised to hear they actually benefit from bailouts and Zero Interest Rate Policy.

Everything else is just a method used to Divide & Conquer people, to keep them from identifying the true enemy.

Check out the Capital Research Institute

http://www.capitalresearchinstitute.org

 
Comment by Max Power
2011-02-28 12:58:55

And there it is. Well said.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:19:56

Comment by cobaltblue
2011-02-28 11:21:16
The situation we find ourselves in is not a result of Mexicans, Chinese, Democrats, or Republicans. Its the fault of the Oligarchy, the Financial Elite, and you may be surprised to hear they actually benefit from bailouts and Zero Interest Rate Policy.

Everything else is just a method used to Divide & Conquer people, to keep them from identifying the true enemy.

Check out the Capital Research Institute

http://www.capitalresearchinstitute.org
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Gosh, if I didn’t know better, I’d think you were joining us socialist commies in fighting against the bankers…and FOR working people (the unions).

 
 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 10:20:15

Happens all the time. Then they fook up, and do something stupid that unmasks their real agenda to the public.

The Bible Thumpers here in Kansas ran a covert plan to pack the state school board with true believers. Once they has a majority, Priority #1 became pushing”Intelligent Design”.

Did I get excited? No. Because Kansans can recognize when somebody pushes an agenda farther than they should, and separation of church and state is one of them.

And besides, who was going to decide whose version of “Intelligent Design” was going to be taught? The Southern Baptist version? The Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu versions? The Scientologist version?

The intelligent designers were thrown out at the next election.

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Comment by whyoung
2011-02-28 11:11:24

I have a friend in Johnson County Kansas who became a Republican because of the need to support moderates.

Kansas has a lot of whackos, but also a lot of people who DO know what separation of church and state means.

 
 
 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 08:10:18

“These d*ckheads really have a grossly inflated idea of who they are. Nor do they realize that their power basically comes from the people.”

Palmy, are you talking about the governor or the unions? I loved the picture I saw this morning in amNew York of Wisconsin protesters with the black power fist tattooed on their arms. Yes, they are definitely looking out for the public they “serve”.

One of the local public unions we have is the TWA. They run the MTA which is the transit system. Their appetite for public dollars is insatiable. Every time there is any money in the system they start howling about how they deserve it all. Their salaries and benefits have grown while the system crumbles. Many of the subway stations look like toilets but we have to make sure TWA workers can retire at a young age. In the past 5 years an unlimited ride Metrocard has gone from $76 to $104. That is a 35% increase. How many of the working class are impacted by that? Who is speaking for those people that work and take the subway every day? Clearly the TWA has a better lobby.

The all-or-nothing supporters of the public unions on this blog do not answer any of the questions that can be posed about these unions. Instead they act like this is all about Scott Walker. This is not about Scott Walker or Chris Christie or me or any other single person. There are legitimate questions to be raised.

- Do public unions increase the size of government bureaucracy?

- Is it right for public unions to dominate the political process to get their hand picked representatives elected?

- Is a contract negotiated between a group and the person they paid to have elected really an honest contract?

- Can we afford the promises made by the elected officials that were supported directly by the public unions?

- Do the public unions give back value to the taxpayer?

I know the desire is to turn this into an emotional discussion. I want to look at this topic honestly. Those are the questions that I pose. I have yet to see anybody answer them that militantly supports these unions.

Comment by Rancher
2011-02-28 08:37:47

NYCity,

Our town administrators negotiate with our local union officials on new contracts, which is a conflict of interest, since any gains by the unions automatically results in gains by city officials.
By OR law, if both parties want closed door meetings, then it is allowed and the public is excluded. The unions and city officials have for years keep the meeting secret and don’t even publish the minutes.
Our city council is going to change that by
ordering the city administration to go public
with the possibility that it will be locally televised.

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Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:18:51

Thanks for the story Rancher. I have enjoyed your posts the past few days, not just because we are in agreement but because they seem very factual. I hope I would appreciate your posts even if your story made my position look foolish, if they are based on fact.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 09:26:44

Thanks for the story Rancher. I have enjoyed your posts the past few days, not just because we are in agreement but because they seem very factual.

Yea, they are pretty good. And he’s not a coward either.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 08:54:15

The all-or-nothing supporters of the public unions on this blog do not answer any of the questions that can be posed about these unions.

Wait..But how would you know NyCityBoy how the “all-or-nothing supporters of the public unions” are answering those questions?

I thought you are ignoring them. Now if you are ignoring them how would you know what they say?

If I were to whine like a baby and ignore people I sure wouldn’t then attempt to tell other people what the people I was ignoring were saying.

That just don’t make sense.

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Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 08:55:12

The all-or-nothing supporters of the public unions on this blog…

…don’t exist. At least I haven’t seen any. Even the union supporters here agree that firefighters/police and UAW have overstepped their boundaries with excessive pensions. It is also agreed that some concessions should be made.* However, if one takes away the Unions altogether, that opens up the slippery slope toward the days before unions — no weekends, child labor, and the like.**

And “union thug” or not, I still hold that if Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley can use taxpayer money honor their contracted bonuses, then the local governments should be able to use taxpayer money to honor their contracted pensions.

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*it should be noted that the Wisconsin union DID offer concessions, but Scott Walker, in thrall to his corporate masters, took an all-or-nothing stance.
*as if it matters. If coporations can’t have their child labor in the US, they will have it in China Africa and India.

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Comment by scdave
2011-02-28 12:35:03

Unions have no place in the government sector and I think, across this country we are seeing why… In my mind, its really that simple…

It just took the great recession that ushered in high unemployment along with job insecurity that opened everyone eyes…

 
Comment by Rancher
2011-02-28 18:04:42

However, if one takes away the Unions altogether, that opens up the slippery slope toward the days before unions — no weekends, child labor, and the like.**

Totally wrong. Federal and state labor laws
make unions 100% unnecessary. The only
reason for the unions existence today is as
a vehicle for extortion.

 
Comment by exeter
2011-02-28 20:44:59

Dude… do you even know how a union operates? When I need a dozen lathers for 3 weeks to install 300 tons of reinforcing who the hell am I going to call? Bob’s Junkyard?

Get a clue.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:24:18

Rancher,

Those laws exist because of the unions. And those laws can be changed back just the same.

Get rid of the unions, and ALL working people will suffer the consequences.

 
 
Comment by CharlieTango
2011-02-28 09:08:01

the voters were not involved in the “creation” of govt employee collective bargaining rights, they were granted initially by executive order (JFK)

the voters are not represented in negotiations and are often not even privy to the negotiations when they are secret.

the unions forcibly take money from the members to give to the elected politicians that they negotiate with, the game is fixed.

this is a corrupt system the steals from the taxpayers.

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Comment by polly
2011-02-28 14:19:59

The taxpayers elected the politicians. But you already knew that, didn’t you?

 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 09:53:26

Yes NYCB some of those Union Contracts are bloated ,they need some adjustments . But to crush the Unions just because they
went a little to far in some areas is to extreme the other way .

All the questions you ask above can be asked of the same party that supports Big Business/Wall Street /Multi-National Companies .
How does that corruption and lobbying affect the taxpayer ,in fact the entire economy .

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 09:28:29

These d*ckheads really have a grossly inflated idea of who they are. Nor do they realize that their power basically comes from the people.

I was doing a photo shoot at the University of Arizona campus on Saturday.

While I was in rapid-fire photography mode as the bicycle racers went whizzing by, I glanced over toward Campbell Avenue, a major north-south artery in central Tucson. Heard some shouting and horn-honking.

Turns out that there was a demonstration over there. A big demonstration. It went by the area where I was shooting, for, oh, 15 or 20 minutes.

Which leads me to the following bold prediction: Just as in Wisconsin, there are a lot of Arizona people who are quite unhappy about what our own state legislature has been up to. And I think that what you’re now seeing in Madison will soon be seen in state capitals like Phoenix and in secondary cities like Tucson. It’s already spread beyond Madison to places like Columbus, Ohio.

And, what you’re now seeing in state capitals, you’re going to be seeing in Our Nation’s Capital within six months.

There’s a movement going on.

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:51:38

That is a good story, Slim. What is the movement? Is it a movement to try to sustain what has become a vast and unsustainable government?

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 09:59:24

Is it a movement to try to sustain what has become a vast and unsustainable government?

Yea, that’s it. Good job. You really have an eye for the big picture.

 
 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 10:10:40

I noticed something today that makes me wonder why no one has mentioned it…..

The budget “shortfall” in Wisconsin is around $140 million, caused by tax breaks/giveaways to the top 5%-ers and corporations.

I’m betting that Koch Industries share of this bill is not $140 million. But that didn’t stop them from spending $40 million plus in campaign contributions and financing “Americans for Prosperity”.

So basically, it works like this:

-Corporations/rich people buy a few politicians, sneak in changes to the tax code to make their tax bill smaller.

-Saving in taxes are spent on buying more politicians…….lather, rinse, repeat, until……..

-You own enough politicians, and enough propaganda outlets, that you don’t have to care about public opinion anymore.

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Comment by CharlieTango
2011-02-28 11:20:09

The budget “shortfall” in Wisconsin is around $140 million, caused by tax breaks/giveaways to the top 5%-ers and corporations.

budget shortfalls are the difference between revenue and expenses. you picked tax breaks/giveaways to the top 5%-ers and corporations

how was this determined and by whom?

i say the shortfall was caused by total spending in excess of revenue.

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 11:26:19

So right on X-GSfixr. your post above me

 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 11:40:50

Have you looked at the pension shortfall projections?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 12:17:14

Charlie Tango,the story is told thusly:

1. Walker gives $140 million in tax breaks to top 5%.
2. Revenue is decreased by $140 million from taxes NOT coming in.
3. Budget shortfall of $140 million, what a coincidence.
4. Walker uses budget shortfall to go union busting, even though the budget shortfall was not the union’s fault.
5. Talking Point Central blames it on unions anyway, because money is fungible. Kinda like daddy going into debt buying a second yacht, and blaming the debt on his babies who just demand food every damn day.

Your talking points do not work here.

I made the analogy to the airlines, who went “bankrupt” to shed pensions, and I stick to that analogy.

 
Comment by Elanor
2011-02-28 12:26:47

NYCBoy, Wisconsin’s public pensions are in better shape than pretty much any other state. They are something like 99% funded. This isn’t about money. It’s about consolidation of power and destroying the Dem party’s base.

 
 
Comment by stewie
2011-02-28 14:10:28

All the unemployed need something to do.

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Comment by Am.sheeple
2011-02-28 17:46:27

Guys here is new type of TEA Party is growing against government corruption by Super Rich…

http://www.thenation.com/article/158282/how-build-progressive-tea-party?

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Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:52:01

Great article, AmSheeple.

 
 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-02-28 22:10:51

“Which leads me to the following bold prediction: Just as in Wisconsin, there are a lot of Arizona people who are quite unhappy about what our own state legislature has been up to. And I think that what you’re now seeing in Madison will soon be seen in state capitals like Phoenix and in secondary cities like Tucson. It’s already spread beyond Madison to places like Columbus, Ohio.”

“And, what you’re now seeing in state capitals, you’re going to be seeing in Our Nation’s Capital within six months.”

“There’s a movement going on.”

Kind of like a new woodstock. I think there was a lot of “Movement” left on the ground at the original.

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Comment by 2banana
2011-02-28 07:12:12

Foreclosures Help Change Color Of Suburbs
AP/theindychannel.com | February 28, 2011 | Corey Williams

SOUTHFIELD, Mich. — Three years ago, Lamar Grace left Detroit for the suburb of Southfield. He got a good deal - a 3,000-square-foot colonial that once was worth $220,000. In foreclosure, he paid $109,000.

The neighbors were not pleased.

“They don’t want to live next door to ghetto folks,” he says.

That his neighbors are black, like Grace, is immaterial. Many in the black middle class moved out of Detroit and settled in the northern suburbs years ago; now, due to foreclosures, it is easy to buy or rent houses on the cheap here. The result has been a new, poorer wave of arrivals from the city, and growing tensions between established residents and the newcomers.

“There’s a way in which they look down on people moving in from Detroit into houses they bought for much lower prices,” says Grace, a 39-year-old telephone company analyst. “I understand you want to keep out the riffraff, but it’s not my fault you paid $250,000 and I paid a buck.”

 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 07:36:03

This is a very interesting — and rather courageous — article. In Detroit, there is “black flight” from the inner cities to the close-in suburbs, leading to more black flight from the inner suburbs to the outer suburbs. This is probably the first article I have seen that places more emphasis on behavior than on color.

Foreclosures helping change color of some suburbs
‘It’s not my fault you paid $250,000 and I paid a buck’
By COREY WILLIAMS The Associated Press (M S N B C . com)

SOUTHFIELD, Mich. — Three years ago, Lamar Grace left Detroit for the suburb of Southfield. He got a good deal — a 3,000-square-foot colonial that once was worth $220,000. In foreclosure, he paid $109,000. The neighbors were not pleased.

“They don’t want to live next door to ghetto folks,” he says.

That his neighbors are black, like Grace, is immaterial. due to foreclosures, it is easy to buy or rent houses on the cheap here. The result has been a new, poorer wave of arrivals from the city, and growing tensions between established residents and the newcomers.

…”they’ve allowed for people without documentation and income verification to borrow 95 to 100 percent of home values,” Southfield Treasurer Irv Lowenberg says. “Many purchased homes when they had two jobs in the household and one of the jobs was lost. [ding ding ding! Elizabeth's Warren's two-income-trap coupled with securitization.]

..John Clanton, a retired auto worker, say the new arrivals have brought behavior more common in the inner city — increased trash, adults and children on the streets at all times of the night, a disregard for others’ property.

…”six-figure blacks are very concerned about multiple-family, economically depressed people moving into rental homes and apartments, bringing in their bad behaviors.”

…two or more families living in a single house, pooling their money for rent.
…Many of the foreclosed upon Southfield homes were going for $40,000 to $60,000. With so many empty houses available, rents also dipped by hundreds of dollars. Renters increased from about 13,100 in 2006 to 15,400 in 2009.

…she says middle-class blacks, like middle-class whites, are also put off by behavior of impoverished blacks who “have developed their own culture, one that is very different from mainstream America.”

Sheryll Cashin, who teaches constitutional law and race and American law at Georgetown University, [I looked up Cashin, and I can't tell from the picture if she is black.] says it would be a shame if black flight from the city set off black flight from the near suburbs: “You have a choice of whether you are willing to be around your people or go 180 degrees in the other direction,” she says. “To the higher income black people, if you don’t want to love and help your lower-income black brethren, why would you expect white people to? If you can’t do it, no one in society can do it. You can try to flee or you can be part of the solution.”

[ "Your people?" "Your lower-income black brethren?" Whoh. This is the traditional(?) mindset where the black community binds together. Meanwhile, the rest of the article stresses a new(?) mindset that middle class blacks are not accepting ghetto bahavior, from any color. (maybe because they know that "help" hasn't worked in the past?) Is this another shift toward a color-blind society?]

Southfield officials say one solution to changing neighborhoods is blight enforcement, other ordinances and costly fines. The idea, said the police chief, Thomas, is not to chase people away, but to help them assimilate:

…Williams was cited for parking a small trailer on the property and storing interior doors outside.
…ordinance officials were writing citations outside.
…fined $200 for noxious weeds because the grass was too high and dandelions covered much of the front lawn.

“It wouldn’t happen in Detroit,” he says. “Your property is pretty much your property. I think, here, they are going a little overboard.”
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Comment by DF
2011-02-28 10:20:15

The police seem like they’re being reasonable to me. You’re welcome to leave the ghetto and come here, but you have to leave the ghetto behind when you come here.

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 10:47:01

…she says middle-class blacks, like middle-class whites, are also put off by behavior of impoverished blacks who “have developed their own culture, one that is very different from mainstream America.”

The same people who DECIDE who gets to function as a white person also DECIDE who will be impoverished.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 11:07:11

Spell it out for a redneck, please. I thought that the explanation that middle class people of all races don’t appreciate ghetto behavior moving to their neighborhood made sense.

Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 11:19:16

“Spell it out for a redneck, please. I thought that the explanation that middle class people of all races don’t appreciate ghetto behavior moving to their neighborhood made sense.”

“redneck?”

what is that?

Is that a white person?

It is not logical for a nonwhite person to explain the concept of race to a person who says they are a white person.

If you say you’re a white person,

you already know more about race than all the nonwhite people combined.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 11:29:03

I’m a white person from way out in the middle of nowhere who grew up knowing nothing of the racial tensions in the south and the big cities. Everything I know about race (which isn’t much) came from personal contact in the military. I still can’t figure out what you were trying to say about the original article.

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 11:53:46

I’m a white person from way out in the middle of nowhere who grew up knowing nothing of the racial tensions in the south and the big cities. Everything I know about race (which isn’t much) came from personal contact in the military. I still can’t figure out what you were trying to say about the original article.

What is a white person and how can you be sure you are one?

Im looking for the FUNCTIONAL definition:

What does a white person SAY and/or DO that “other people” don’t SAY and or DO?

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 12:03:18

If you don’t know what you were trying to say, just say so :-).

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 12:07:30

“If you don’t know what you were trying to say, just say so :-).”

You just said you are a white person?

Are you a man too?

How do you know that?

 
Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 12:26:42

WTF?

According to this, I might be a white person?

Texas group launches scholarship for white men ONLY… because they ‘need an equal shot’

The Former Majority Association for Equality will give grants of $500 to any man from Texas who is at least ‘25 per cent Caucasian’, has good grades and can demonstrate they are in need.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361139/Texas-group-launches-scholarship-white-men-ONLY–need-equal-shot.html

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 12:58:34

I’m willing to discuss anything you want as honestly as I can possibly be. I thought perhaps we might have an interesting discussion about whether “functioning as a white person” has anything to do with the original article. It seems you’d rather talk about something else but don’t want to just say what it is so that I can make an honest judgment about whether I’d like to be part of that conversation or not. So I’ll just wait…

P.S. I don’t *know* that I’m anything. Most of my ancestry is from Europe but there are unknowns in the family tree and who knows before that? But you already knew that…

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 15:29:23

Spookwaffe Caucasian’s are no longer 50% of the population in Texas anymore. They are just trying find more to join.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 03:58:44

Carl,

I applaud your efforts to try to have an honest conversation about racial and cultural differences and inequalities.

Spookwaffe is clearly not making any sense, and not even trying to make sense.

We’ll never solve the problem of “racism” if we can’t speak about it honestly.

Too bad there is a contingent of people (on both sides) who try to make things so difficult.

 
 
 
 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 12:35:29

I just finished a book called “Disintegration, the Splintering of Black America” by Eugene Robinson. Highly recommend it. His premise is that there is no single black community anymore.

 
Comment by Max Power
2011-02-28 13:15:36

I sometimes wonder how much of what some people call racism is actually classism (for lack of a better word). This story is a perfect example. It’s not that people in the “nice” neighborhood are against people of a certain race moving in, it’s that they’re against poorer people moving in. It just so happens that in this case the majority of the poorer people are of a specific race so that specific race is indirectly discriminated against disproportionate to all races.

Not saying there aren’t also still a lot of truly racist people people in this country as well. There are. I’m still somewhat shocked every time I hear someone make a racist comment, joke, etc. It’s really sad. Not sure how that gets “fixed”. Maybe it just fades over time as each generation dies out.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 14:46:20

I’m still somewhat shocked every time I hear someone make a racist comment, joke, etc. It’s really sad.

In Brazil it’s totally different in some ways. I was first shocked when I heard a white girl call her best friend “ninginha”. Which means endearingly “little black girl”. The black girl just smiled because there was nothing racist about it. It was a sweet label. Stuff like that happens here all the time going both ways.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-02-28 15:42:27

Yeah there are real racists and real “classists”(?) out there. But I think most people are OK with anybody who respects the local social norms regardless of skin color or paycheck size. I think that’s what the original article was observing as well.

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:00:48

Agree, Carl. It’s not so much “racism” as it is “classism” or “culturalism.”

I couldn’t care less what color my neighbors are, but I care an awful lot about their character and behavoir.

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Comment by Brett
2011-02-28 07:43:34

Did you know that…..?

The right to collectively bargain is recognized through international human rights conventions. Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights identifies the ability to organize trade unions as a fundamental human right.[3] Item 2(a) of the International Labour Organization’s Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work defines the “freedom of association and the effective recognition of the right to collective bargaining” as an essential right of workers.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 08:42:43

OK, you had me for a moment. I don’t think though that the International Labour [Union] Organization is so much an international human rights convention, rather a Labor party convention. The HDR states that “Everyone has the right to work”, “Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions”, “No one may be compelled to belong to an association” and laughinly says that none of “these rights” can be exercised against the UN, which I guess see itself as the universal governing body. That Elanor, she was something.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 08:11:45

Just this morning I was thinking about our old friend, the Credit Suisse Graph… and found an update to the huge Option ARM peak. Sorry, it’s a year old, but still useful.

http://dailyreckoning.com/the-second-wave-is-already-ashore/

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“Instead of resetting as expected after the first five years, many option ARMs are so negatively amortized that they are hitting their automatic reset cap. [ie, the peak has bled left, from Aug 2011 to Jan to Aug 2010.]

That means they are resetting early…like right now [December 2009]— with unemployment reaching quarter-century highs every month, and a massive number of homeowners about to receive mortgage bills for two-three times what they are used to paying.

It takes anywhere between three-12 months for most homes to actually go into foreclosure. It’s tough to say exactly when the storm will come. But my guess is the second half of 2010.”
—–

The author wasn’t far off. These Option ARMS were for 5-years, so they probably weren’t subprime (subprimes had a much shorter time to reset). I’m guessing this second peak is made of formerly-prime FB’s in CA/NV/AZ/FL who did an Escalade-and-boob-job refi, and waited too long to sell because they didn’t want to give it away. Now they are either squatting waiting for somebody to kick them out, or they have already walked.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 16:53:17

Last year, the number of foreclosures on prime mortgages exceeded subprime.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 08:13:25

market pulse

Feb. 28, 2011, 10:00 a.m. EST
Pending home sales fall for second straight month
By Greg Robb

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -Pending home sales fell in January, the second straight monthly decline, a real estate trade group reported Monday. The pending home sales index fell 2.8% in January, close to market expectations, the National Association of Realtors said. However, sales in December were much weaker than first thought. Sales in December were revised sharply lower to a fall of 3.2% versus the prior estimate of a 2% increase.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-02-28 08:44:38

Considering the fact that Realtors Are Liars, January 2011 will likely be revised lower when Feb 2011 PHS are reported.

Why? Because………

Realtors Are Liars.

 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 09:00:45

Never understood “revisions”, you either had a pending sale or you didn’t. I beginning to not fully trust these guys….

Comment by Kim
2011-02-28 09:29:49

One short sale property I’ve been following just had its fourth contract fall through. We had the first contract last spring; the seller accepted our offer, but the lender didn’t so it fell through. Same with the three subsequent offers. Even the listing agent agrees the bank is being “ridiculous”.

But to address your point, its likely each of those four “pending” contracts got counted in the stats.

Comment by Awaiting
2011-02-28 09:50:54

Kim,
That is an absolute fact in Ca. I am licensed, and I know a few things about how my area BOR (Board Of UHS) works and CAR. All the states stats make up the NAR stats.

One thing we’re staying away from are REO’s and Short Sales. Oh, and flips are insanely priced. Get a clue infestors, us buyers (in general) have a clue about where this market is going. Lower the price or get lost.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 14:45:31

‘Never understood “revisions”,…’

A downward revision to this month’s pending sales number will make this month’s drop in pending sales look smaller.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 08:33:50

America’s Debt Crisis
Military health costs up 300%
Military health care costs eating a hole in Pentagon budget

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — The cost of military health care, up 300% in the past decade, is eating a giant hole in the Pentagon’s budget, according to a report released Monday by a group of defense experts.

The Defense Department expects to spend $52.5 billion on health care in 2012, a 300% increase since 2001, the report says. By 2015, health care will account for 10% of the Pentagon budget.

The eye-popping numbers have set alarm bells ringing inside the Pentagon.

The report, from the left-leaning Center for American Progress, lays out a way to cut $15 billion a year from the Pentagon’s bloated health care budget.

The target: An insurance program called Tricare that accounts for much of the cost increase.

Currently, fees for some of the 9.6 million service members who participate in the program haven’t risen since 1995. And enrollees pay rates far below what they would find in the private sector.
Defense spending: Slaying the sacred cow

Fees for one popular Tricare program — called Tricare Prime — stand at $38 a month, or $460 a year for an entire family. Individual retirees pay $230 a year.

Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 09:01:45

So is the left-leaning report advocating raising fees, or is that part an editorial add-on?

 
Comment by butters
2011-02-28 09:01:57

Do the wars add to the health cost or there’s a separate budget for war related medical treatments?

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 11:54:10

My cousin’s boys basically grew up fooked in the head. Stoners at 13, stealing cars at 15, stealing stuff out of houses at 17…….you get the picture.

Somehow, they got into the US Army. Either because they enlisted before they could commit crimes as adults, or because their Grandad’s rep still had some pull (retired as Sergeant Major, 30 years in the Army, fought in Korea, two tours in Vietnam with the 101st Airborne, etc.).

Army didn’t change them. Went to Iraq (actually, didn’t even make it to Iraq, were in one of the big camps in Kuwait), where they spent 100% of their time mowing sand and getting into trouble, “in the rear, with the gear……”

Discharged, but still fooked in the head. But now, they have been diagnosed with PTSD, so the VA/Uncle Sugar is picking up the tab for trying to get them straightened out.

But, as everyone in the family knows, “You can’t fix stupid.”

Now that I think about it, I guess you could call this a “family bailout”.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 14:45:54

Army didn’t change them. Went to Iraq (actually, didn’t even make it to Iraq, were in one of the big camps in Kuwait), where they spent 100% of their time mowing sand and getting into trouble, “in the rear, with the gear……”

Discharged, but still fooked in the head. But now, they have been diagnosed with PTSD, so the VA/Uncle Sugar is picking up the tab for trying to get them straightened out.

One of my walking buddies is a retired U.S. Air Force officer. He’s as flaming a liberal as they come, but don’t get him started on people like these. The word “shhh- bird” is one of the nicer terms he uses.

Especially when it comes to their playing of the PTSD card down at the VA. He worked for our local VA after he retired, and he saw quite a bit of, ahem, PTSD dramatics.

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Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:06:50

It sounds like they want to raise the service members’ fees instead of getting the F’ out of these wars overseas.

Gee, ya think that having two never-ending wars in a decade might increase the healthcare costs? Who would’a thunk?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 08:35:27

Dollar getting slammed, Silver and Gold surging toward new highs
February 28th, 2011 by maxkeiser

MK: The Dollar is not attracting ‘flight to safety’ support and this is surprising a lot of money professionals. I just heard Hillary’s speech in front of the UN and felt as if she was still reading from the old playbook written by Saudi Arabia and Israel decades ago. She sounded out of key as do all of the knee-jerk analysts ‘surprised’ by the dollar’s weakness. Silver is to the dollar – what the revolutions in N. Africa are to the dictators there. We are witnessing huge shifts in political and economic trends. The old dictators, including the US dollar – as world reserve currency – are being chased out of town by a global insurrection against the banker occupation.

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:21:03

The stock market is up big. All must be good. Buy NFLX and retire early, just like the people that bought Pets.com.

You have to have vision, people.

Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 10:50:26

A teammate of mine from high school started eToys , I might have done some things differently:

How to Lose $850 Million — And Not Really Care

The opening share price was set at $20. When the first trade moved, cheers erupted as the electronic board above the trading floor posted the price: $79. The stock would rise on that opening day to $85 before closing at $76.56. Not once did Lenk pull out a calculator to figure his new net worth. He didn’t need to. ”It was easy to do the math,” he says. ”I had 10.5 million shares in the company. You just add some zeroes and that’s what you have.”

At $85 a share, Lenk’s worth, on paper, was more than $850 million. The market had valued his two-year-old company at more than $10 billion — two and a half times greater than the bricks-and-mortar giant Toys ”R” Us.

The oddest thing of all was how Lenk treated his personal stake. He was not a trust-fund kid. He had grown up in a middle-class Boston suburb, had made good money as an adult but wasn’t set for life. Yet he let his holdings evaporate. He didn’t sell high; he didn’t sell at all. ”I never felt comfortable with this whole notion of, ‘I’m gonna make my $100 million and the hell with everybody else,’ ” he says.

At least he was smart enough to rent…

“Lenk’s one-story stucco house, which he shares with his fiancée, Lynn Thompson, has three small bedrooms, two baths, no dining room and a galley kitchen. It could be a starter home, except that he has rented it for the past eight years. He owns a laptop computer, a nice bicycle, a pool table and an expensive set of golf clubs that he received as a gift.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/09/magazine/how-to-lose-850-million-and-not-really-care.html?pagewanted=3&src=pm

Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 15:32:49

The karma the received from immediately suing eToy after deciding on the name “eToys” doomed them from the start. EToy is still around.

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Comment by measton
2011-02-28 08:36:11

NYT
Where have I seen this movie before?

Detroit is crowing that the auto industry is back, but so far, at least, it is a success story built as much on a revival in lending as on the development of desirable cars.

Sales of new cars rose 11 percent, to around 11.4 million, in 2010 and are off to an even stronger start this year, according to Autodata, an industry research service. Sales of used cars have been similarly robust.

After radically scaling back auto lending during the financial crisis, banks and the lending arms of the automakers have started to issue loans more aggressively. Borrowers of all types are now finding it much easier to obtain a loan compared with a few months ago.

Even car buyers with tarnished credit histories are getting financing, in some cases without making a down payment. More than 859,000 new cars were sold to consumers with a so-called subprime credit rating in 2010, a nearly 60 percent increase from the year before, according to CNW Marketing Research.

finance.yahoo.com/news/Behind-a-Rise-in-Auto-Sales-nytimes-1103931545.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=5&asset=&ccode=

Comment by pressboardbox
2011-02-28 08:48:32

One can only wonder how sales would be if the government did not own the auto loan lenders? And the student loan lenders? And the housing loan lenders?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 08:50:50

“Sales of new cars rose 11 percent, to around 11.4 million”

Which is still below the replacement level. Now that the home ATM is gone people have to finance cars conventionally and the “how much a month” Harrys are getting sticker shock, even when they lease.

I’ll confess, I used to be one of those people who liked to have a brand new car every three years.

No more.

They’re way too expensive now and it’s way cheaper to keep a paid for car in tip top shape for a long time.

Comment by butters
2011-02-28 08:58:05

Same here. I used to change cars every 3/4 yrs. No more. The current Honda is paid off. No reason to pile on new debts.

Comment by Awating
2011-02-28 10:08:14

I have an old Volvo, and no car payments for 13 years now.(17 yrs old)
My Honda went 160K prior to cars starting to last longer. Key: Make and oil changes.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 12:06:23

Just spent $4K fixing my 10 year old car. The infamous “Northstar Head Gasket” bug. Also fixed the “Northstar short block oil leak” problem while the engine was out.

Can’t bitch too much. Bought the car in 2007 with a big discount, because of the rep for blowing head gaskets and popping oil leaks.

Still cheaper than paying 9% sales tax, first year’s property tax, and insurance on a new Kia, much less anything I’d actually want to own.

Buying new, I’d blow four grand plus, and still have 4-5 years of car payments.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:10:59

I’m assuming you can fix your own vehicles, GS?

If so, you’re very lucky; there is no reason for you to buy new, IMHO. Most of us have to do it because we suck at fixing cars, especially now that everything needs a computer.

 
 
 
Comment by salinasron
2011-02-28 10:43:17

“They’re way too expensive now and it’s way cheaper to keep a paid for car in tip top shape for a long time.”

Get gas to $5/gal and that second and third car will be quickly sold off too.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-02-28 21:47:28

I kind of like having a spare car for when one has to be in the shop. Total miles is pretty constant.

Insurance and upkeep are a bit more for 2 cars rather than one, but gas cost doesn’t really change.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2011-03-01 08:45:36

I grew up in the country and prefer to do it that way, too. Problem is living in town there isn’t always enough parking for an extra car.

 
 
 
 
Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 09:01:22

7.5% of all loans were subprime? Not bad? Does anyone know the historical breakdown?

Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 09:25:35

Historically the rate is probably close to zero, especially for traditional dealerships. There are dealships that specialize in cars for the poor; I read somewhere that their financing isn’t far off from the check-cashing model.

What strikes me more is the rise of the 72-month loan not as special case, but as SOP. Car lenders are catering to Harry Howmuchamonth as much as the mortgage lenders.

 
 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-02-28 10:43:39

“banks and the lending arms of the automakers have started to issue loans more aggressively.”

Which also doubles as the reason why that new Jeep Grand Cherokee is upwards of $40k. I *might* pay $25k for it. Competition such as this is what has me eyeing good 3-5 year old used cars.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-02-28 21:48:55

“issue loans more aggressively”

Take our loan, please?

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 08:49:52

Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF ~ SFGate

San Francisco’s big push for low-flow toilets has turned into a multimillion-dollar plumbing stink.

Skimping on toilet water has resulted in more sludge backing up inside the sewer pipes, said Tyrone Jue, spokesman for the city Public Utilities Commission. That has created a rotten-egg stench near AT&T Park and elsewhere, especially during the dry summer months.

The city has already spent $100 million over the past five years to upgrade its sewer system and sewage plants, in part to combat the odor problem.

Now officials are stocking up on a $14 million, three-year supply of highly concentrated sodium hypochlorite - better known as bleach - to act as an odor eater and to disinfect the city’s treated water before it’s dumped into the bay. It will also be used to sanitize drinking water.

That translates into 8.5 million pounds of bleach either being poured down city drains or into the drinking water supply every year.

Not everybody thinks it’s a good idea.

A Don’t Bleach Our Bay alert has just gone out from eco-blogger Adam Lowry who argues the city would be much better off using a disinfectant like hydrogen peroxide - or better yet, a solution that would naturally break down the bacteria.

As for whether the supposedly environmentally friendly, low-flow toilets are worth the trouble? Well, according to Jue, they have helped trim San Francisco’s annual water consumption by about 20 million gallons.

Comment by butters
2011-02-28 08:56:28

Is northern CA short on water like Southern CA?

Comment by MrBubble
2011-02-28 11:11:50

Southern CA takes northern CA water (Read Cadillac Desert).
There’s a problem with delta smelt and the energy budget for the transport/purification/treatment of water is large in CA. Did a study on this a couple years ago. From a CEC report:

“Approximately 5% of California’s electricity is used for the water use cycle – taking water out of the environment, treating it, delivering it to customers and then taking it away, treating the wastewater and discharging the treated water back into the environment.

The energy from approximately 15% of the state’s electricity and 33% of the state’s natural gas (excluding that used to generate electricity) and a bunch of diesel is added to water by consumers, on their side of the meter. This includes pumping, heating, cooling (buildings with cooling towers for air conditioning), clothes drying and a variety of industrial purposes.”

 
 
Comment by polly
2011-02-28 10:19:10

One of the great things about the move to this apartment from the last one is that the building is old enough to have regular toilets instead of low flows. I’ll leave the exact nature of the benefit to your excellent imaginations.

Comment by yensoy
2011-02-28 10:44:25

Ample liquidity is always a good thing.

 
 
 
Comment by doom
2011-02-28 08:52:20

“the whole gov’t is a ponsi scheme” Madoff said .Tell us something new please, everyone already knows that?

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 11:34:52

Madoff has just been watching a lot of TV in prison so he can spout off
these defenses . Hes a con man and a big thief ,simple as that . Why they would even give that criminal a voice is unacceptable .

What is more alarming is the check and balances in the system were so lacking that a guy like him could of got away with it for as many years as he did ,as did others .

Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 15:36:21

The more he talks, the more nervous Wall Street gets.

 
 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-02-28 09:12:25

Do all realtors lie

or;

Are all liars realtors?

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:26:43

I don’t like to stand up for the profession as a whole but I had a real estate agent that was very honest with us when we were selling. He told us what most couples don’t want to hear. I was right on board with him. I wanted to list at a reasonable price and get it sold right away. We were the dream clients.

I don’t know if he would have been as honest on the buying side. I’m guessing not.

Comment by butters
2011-02-28 09:39:56

How about an individual realtor is honest, the NAR is dishonest.
In the same vain, an individual union member is honest, Union as a whole is dishonest.

Something to do with collective power, I guess.

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:55:55

I think I actually questioned his honesty in the last part of my post.

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Comment by Spookwaffe
2011-02-28 11:08:44

The realtors too high!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 09:13:17

Farrakhan: Mideast uprisings will come to US ~ Tribune report

Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan predicted on Sunday that America faces imminent uprisings that mirror those in the Middle East.

“What you are looking at in Tunisia, in Egypt … Libya, in Bahrain … what you see happening there … you’d better prepare because it will be coming to your door,” Farrakhan said in a booming voice, thousands of followers cheering in his wake.

Farrakhan also called on President Barack Obama to allow protesters to march, urging the president not to attack innocent people when they do.

The controversial minster spoke to a packed house at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont as part of the 81st annual celebration of Saviours’ Day, which marks the birth of the faith’s founder, W. Fard Muhammad.

The keynote address, titled “God will send saviours,” capped a weekend of workshops focused on health, preparing for natural disasters and unidentified flying objects. The Nation of Islam believes in a UFO called “the wheel” or “the Mother Plane.”

Farrakhan has described a 1985 religious experience in which he ascended into a flying saucer and heard the voice of Elijah Muhammad predicting historical events that came to pass.

For about four hours, Farrakhan spoke and jumped from topic to topic, citing religious texts.
He praised Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard.

Farrakhan extolled the virtues of Scientology and its auditing process, which is considered spiritual counseling by its members.

“L. Ron Hubbard is so exceedingly valuable to every Caucasian person on this earth,” Farrakhan said.

“… L. Ron Hubbard himself was and is trying to civilize white people and make them better human beings and take away from them their reactive minds … Mr. Hubbard recognized that his people have to be civilized,” Farrakhan said to a cheering crowd.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-02-28 09:22:20

He lost me at “the Mother plane”.

 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:28:47

“… L. Ron Hubbard himself was and is trying to civilize white people and make them better human beings and take away from them their reactive minds … Mr. Hubbard recognized that his people have to be civilized,” Farrakhan said to a cheering crowd.

Awesome.

Comment by butters
2011-02-28 09:34:35

Didn’t know Scientology is all white?

Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 10:27:52

Very few blacks in Scientology.

Will Smith is a member now, so that may change.

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 11:37:34

Black people aren’t stupid enough to go for Scientology ,

 
Comment by exeter
2011-02-28 19:32:07

“Black people aren’t stupid enough to go for Scientology ,”

+eleventyzillion.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 09:21:57

All these guys sound the same………….

3M CEO slams Obama as ‘anti-business’

Buckley said his company, which makes thousands of products ranging from Post-It notes to Scotch Tape, “will do business where it’s good and friendly.”

“There is a sense among companies that [the U.S.] is a difficult place to do business,” he told the FT. “We’ve got a real choice between manufacturing in Canada or Mexico — which tend to be more pro-business — and America.”

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/28/news/companies/3M_CEO_Obama/index.htm

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 09:37:24

3M CEO slams Obama as ‘anti-business’

I don’t think that Obama is so much anti-business as he is inexperienced in business. And it’s not just him. If you look back at our recent presidents, who came from the business world besides the Bushes? And, in that case, they didn’t exactly build their enterprises from scratch.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 12:17:50

What a bunch of crybabies.

Just business telling everyone that they will take their balls and threaten to play elsewhere, unless we all drop to our knees and give them knobbers 24/7/365.

But what do these jackasses do when their overseas assets get Nationalized? Run like crying little girls to the US Court System to sue, or to the State Department to get embargos/economic sanctions.

Just once I’d like someone to say “Quit your crying, or I’ll give you something to cry about…..”

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:17:39

Exactly, GS.

They want the costs of the third-world countries, but the protection and benefits of the first-world countries (all paid for by taxes, BTW).

Let them go. But don’t expect us to be sitting there with open arms when they come crying back to us. Leave, and stay gone.

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Comment by measton
2011-02-28 10:19:14

Wow what a factless article.
You would think he would point out a few examples and state how he would change the system.
Mudslining is just so much easier.
Either that or just as likely CNN hired a high school intern to record sound bites and write an article. No real journalism.

Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 10:24:54

It is as though all these CEOs use the same consulting company that preaches outsourcing. You can only outsource so much.

Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 10:38:06

lfc, could you explain? At this point, I don’t think there’s ANYthing that can’t be outsourced, especially when other countries attain stable Internet, allow cheap e- and its pollution, and teach American-accent English to the new babies.

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Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 10:58:16

So what is the solution? Deregulate everything in sight in order to compete with emerging nations? Race to the bottom?

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 12:27:32

I like my idea.

-Make our environmental rules stronger, regulations tougher, and run all the weasels TF out of Dodge.

-Bring home the US military, and have them keep out the riff-raff, instead of fighting wars to protect the interests of the MNCs.

-Then, after the rest of the world has turned into a corrupt, polluted, effed up, giant bunch of Banana Republics and Business Dictatorships, let them pay for the privledge of drinking clean water, breathing clean air, and having a fair equitable playing field, as far as being able to enforce a contract.

Of course, this would require something like everyone agreeing to a plan. But planning for the future, and getting people to agree to the plan is socialist, so it will never happen.

 
Comment by measton
2011-02-28 15:31:42

WE have a winner.

Trade restrictions alone.
The US has a lot of natural resources.
We can do without their cheap toys they can’t do without our food.
Trade restrictions would cause inflation but it would be due to higher wages, much healthier for the country.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:18:57

Amen, GS!

 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-02-28 10:25:52

It’s the usual hostage-taking: “Obama, give us tax breaks or the US worker gets it.” They’ll just demand more, and eventually move to China anyway.

At this point, I honestly think the best thing to do is to let house prices fall an work on a public option/single-payer health care, and maybe some tweaks in the tax code to reward actual labor and punish capital gains. Low house prices and low health care costs alone may make the American worker attractive enough to stop the outsourcing Of course, this will never happen because there are just too many bought-off folks in Congress.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 12:52:52

The Master Plan of Corporate /Wall Street /Banker America.
(Who are Mad-hatters if the truth be known )

(1) First get bail outs from the real estate Ponzi-scheme and use the government/taxpayers dollars to do it ,rather than a crashing of our
powers and money . Do anything possible to take the heat off our liability for losses ,or that our systems are just bogus casinos or that we belong in jail and our damage was massive ,and stop us from going BK . Tell the public that whats good for Wall Street is
good for Main street .

(2) Convince the stupid bribed Politicians that if our corrupt system didn’t exist and power wasn’t restored to us it would be the end of the world ,rather than our corrupted systems . Allows us to keep our personal ill-gotten gain ,after all we don’t like to pay .

(3) Distract the public from the thief and obstruction of Justice .
Set up a entity that we can dump a bunch of these toxic assets
on like F&F ,put pay us the value of the mortgage ,not the real
price . In addition enact public programs and incentives that will
off set our loss and raise the fake value of our toxic assets ,like the 8k buying incentive and other programs .

(4) Very quickly make unregulated investment Banks into Banks ,so
they can qualify for Bail outs or Fed loans ,and throw in Insurance Companies like AIG and even unregulated investment funds and
even Foreign Company funds . Anything whereby we can keep
exposure of the Ponzi-scheme from hitting the light of day .

(5) Get the money from our Pawns ,the Politicians who will take it from the taxpayers. Start a PR campaign that what we did was legal and nobody could of saw it coming . Get them to impose small fines as if what we did was minor rather than the major damage we did .

(6) Don’t let the Politicians tax us or tax outsourcing or
tax out-manufacturing ,or correct trade balances because using
Global labor has got us in the cat-bird seat to crush USA private sector wages and benefits and we make more profit this way .

(7) Don’t pay good wages and reduce benefits ,even default on benefits because prior obligations are holding us down .

(8) Crush any power of the private sector worker and tell them that they are lucky they have a job ,

(9) Than go after the public sector government worker ,after all
we want more government funds going to our sector . In addition
we need the heat taken off us on how much we loss of the pension funds of the government worker that they might want us to compensate them for because of our fraud . Break the power of the Unions ,after all they are a glaring reminder to the
private sector of what their salaries and benefits should be in light of inflation and the cost of living , Don’t let any worker group get powerful because that takes away our power or check and balance on us .

(10) Convince the public that if they give us more tax breaks we will create jobs . Than do what we want with foreign investment ,
outsourcing ,out-manufacturing to get more profits and power .
Reduce wages even more and hallow out more USA states by moving the businesses to foreign Countries .

(11) Use the monopoly power of slave wage foreign labor to
cream wages and benefits in the United state .

(12) increase prices and make even more money ,but don’t give raises so people can afford the price increases .

(13) Help our fellow Corporate Monopoly Capitalist with their price fixing in the Health care industry so they can maintain their
profit margins ,and convince the sheep that their freedoms will
be taken away if the health care isn’t a free market system ,in spite of it being a price fixing monopoly . Raise prices every year in spite of market conditions ,cause after all there is money to be made . Who cares about people dying ,were talking about right to profits .

(14) Try to transfer the blame to our pawns the people and the worker . Circulate stories of people that did make it and act like its just a matter of working a little harder and act like people are in their positions because they just didn’t work hard enough . Hand out that dream to the American people while you take away their power for a fair playing field . Lead the public to believe that we deserve the salaries we get and the ill-gotten gain we get .

(15) By all means keep the government coffers helping us increase our profits ,that money shouldn’t go to the middle-class or the
poverty segment of the population .

(16) Convince people that voluntary Charity should cover social programs ,and cut off all welfare programs .

(15) Talk about trickle down economics in spite of the fact that it doesn’t apply anymore because were taking the money outside America and the trickle down goes elsewhere .

(16) Talk the government into letting us keep our Wall Street casinos under the current corrupt system ,and come up with some bogus supervisor system ,so they can’t catch us at what we do .

(16) Start a PR campaign to take away social security ,anything to take the heat off us .

(17) Take away any min wage laws because after all ,that cuts into our profits . Hop the public doesn’t notice how much our profits have skyrocketed .,but at the same time induce them to
invest in the stock market where its evident that our profits have skyrocketed .

(18) Support the investment class ,or the speculator class ,because we make money off of them . WE LIKE OTHER PEOPLES MONEY .

I could go on and on .

I’m just trying to show how you can’t go after Unions unless you address what the other power players in Society have pulled off
and what problems that unbridled greed is putting on Society as a whole .

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:23:04

Wow. Fantastic job, Wiz!!!!

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Comment by WT Economist
2011-02-28 11:28:45

You know that this is about, don’t you? It’s about “say on pay.”

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-25.htm

“The Securities and Exchange Commission today adopted rules concerning shareholder approval of executive compensation and “golden parachute” compensation arrangements as required under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.”

“The SEC’s new rules specify that say-on-pay votes required under the Dodd-Frank Act must occur at least once every three years beginning with the first annual shareholders’ meeting taking place on or after Jan. 21, 2011. Companies also are required to hold a “frequency” vote at least once every six years in order to allow shareholders to decide how often they would like to be presented with the say-on-pay vote.”

These overpaid, entitled twerps sound just like the public employee unions with their retroactive pension enhancments. The stock market bubble ended a decade ago, and yet certain people’s compensation is still based on stocks going up 20 percent per year.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:17:12

Yep.

Like I asked yesterday; Was it the unions that needed TARP?

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-02-28 09:33:11

Pending home sales fall for second straight month

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -Pending home sales fell in January, the second straight monthly decline, a real estate trade group reported Monday. The pending home sales index fell 2.8% in January, close to market expectations, the National Association of Realtors said. However, sales in December were much weaker than first thought. Sales in December were revised sharply lower to a fall of 3.2% versus the prior estimate of a 2% increase. The index is 1.5% below January 2010 but 20.6% above the trough hit last June after the homebuyer tax credit expired. Pending homes sales fell in the Northeast, the Midwest, and West but rose in the South. The index is based on sales contracts on existing homes. The NAR also reports on sales of existing homes once the sales close, usually six to eight weeks later.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 09:34:58

Back when I bought the Arizona Slim Ranch, I used a real estate agent who specialized in buyers.

And, wouldn’t ya know it, things didn’t go swimmingly after I moved in here. It seemed that the home inspector, which he highly recommended, missed some things. Including the problems with the two toilets, which both broke within the first week of my residence here.

When I called upon Mr. Real Estate for help, it was clear that there would be none coming from him. He’d already cashed the rather slender commission check from this modestly priced house, and he’d gone back to being a buyer’s agent for the better-heeled folks who were seeking golf course properties.

So, I got on with my life.

Well, guess what showed up in my e-mail box this morn: An invitation to connect on LinkedIn. And what do y’all think I did with that invitation?

Comment by NYCityBoy
2011-02-28 09:58:57

I’m never good at this guessing game. Let me see. Hold on a minute. I got it! I am going to guess that you drove over to his house and kicked him in the groin. Am I right? What do I win?

 
Comment by salinasron
2011-02-28 10:55:47

“So, I got on with my life.”

And that is the crux of the problem here! We need to stop trying to fix blame and spend the time rectifying the problems at hand to the benefit of all Americans.
Blame and no positive action is just another form of gridlock.

Comment by lfc
2011-02-28 11:20:46

Bingo! What is the name of that movie with Eddie Murphy, The Distinguished Gentleman? When Eddie asks his PAC advisor something along the lines: “With all this money coming for different sides, how does anything ever get accomplished in Washington?”….the response, it doesn’t.

Lawmakers, bought and sold, by special interests.

 
 
Comment by Kim
2011-02-28 11:47:40

“It seemed that the home inspector, which he highly recommended, missed some things.”

Yup… the next house we buy, I’ll take my chances with someone off Angie’s list, rather than trust the used house salesfolk’s recommendation.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 12:45:51

The same thing as all those invitations to link up with Achnob in New Dehli?

 
 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-02-28 09:44:54

Latest Libyan oil update: http://www.cnbc.com/id/41829638

Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-02-28 10:37:30

Interesting article on Obama’s energy policies even when you consider the bias views of the quoted people: http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Robert-Bryce-Obama-Oil/2011/02/28/id/387673?s=al&promo_code=BC3A-1

Does the Volt and similar cars just change are dependency from Middle East oil to Chinese rare minerals? Can we afford the costs of biofuels, are two good questions that the article raises.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 12:39:55

Maybe we should revive our own rare earths mining and processing.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-02-28 12:43:11

We need an honest exchange between the government regulators, the fuel industry, and the transportation industry to sit down, and come up with a realistic plan and regulatory environment.

We’ve got the idiotic situation where the government mandates improved fuel economy, while at the same time another branch of government mandates diesel fuel to be sulphur free (raising it’s cost) and NHTSA mandates safety equipment and air bags in 43 different impact directions, raising the weight (and cost) of new cars.

Small cars used to weigh about 2500 pound. They are all 1000 pounds heavier now, due to safety mandates. All that extra weight takes extra power to push it around, and keeps people in older, more polluting cars and trucks, because they can’t afford to buy new ones.

Of course, maybe this IS the Master Plan. Raise the price of fuel and driving so much, that all the lemmings and peons will be forced onto mass transit, while still paying for all the roads that they can’t afford to use anymore.

 
Comment by Dale
2011-02-28 19:46:56

Where does the electricity come from to charge these cars? Is this a good use for highly “refined” energy such as electricity, i.e., pushing a car around????

How much energy is lost converting coal to electricity, charging a battery and then converting electricity to mechanical energy? (not to mention transmission of said electricity from where it is produced) I would like to see the efficiency numbers on this.

 
 
 
Comment by Steve J
2011-02-28 09:45:06

Forget McMansions, the $200 micro house is here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/garden/24tiny.html?_r=1&ref=garden

Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 12:43:49

The perfect house for enjoting a microbrew.

Kidding aside, when I was a college student in San Diego there was an ad for a “bungalow” to rent in Solana Beach. That ad said they would show it at X o’clock.

So I showed and about 2 dozen people showed up. It was basically a shack. Upon seeing it most of us cursed having our time wasted. But a few stayed behind to inspect the shack.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:24:10

A house has a bathroom and kitchen at the very least.

These are nothing but back yard sheds. Hell, I’ve seen sheds from Home Depot bigger than this.

 
Comment by Lola
2011-02-28 17:46:58

That wouldn’t even be big enough for all my shoes …

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 10:20:22

Fresh from Wall Street’s alchemy labs: Credit derivatives tied to General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM - News) debt. The rub is, no such debt exists.

Banks and hedge funds are trading credit-default swaps, which make payments to holders of General Motors bonds in the event of a default. But GM canceled $40 billion of debt in bankruptcy and has pledged to cut its remaining $4.6 billion bank loan to the bone this year.

That is merely a technicality for the banks and hedge funds that have been actively trading the CDS.

Lawmakers and regulators have blamed credit derivatives for exacerbating the financial crisis and helping bring down companies like American International Group Inc. (NYSE: AIG - News) and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Investors who bought “naked CDS” to bet on the likelihood of default, rather than to hedge risk from other investments, are credited with worsening the liquidity crisis that gripped those financial powerhouses, prompting calls for tighter regulation of the industry.

“Sure, having CDS without debt looks odd, and people may balk because credit derivatives were at the center of the AIG collapse, but that doesn’t change the fact that CDS prices are the de facto benchmark used to measure the state of the credit market,” said Kevin McPartland, senior analyst at research firm TABB Group.

Thank God for Frank-Dodd….

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:28:17

CDS prices are used to see what’s going on in the credit market because the pricing mechanisms for the debt itself have been distorted by the existence of CDSs.

 
 
Comment by seen it all
2011-02-28 10:23:06

Quick pop in equities, followed by a little give back.

I wonder if they can keep this thing up any longer. Pretty soon everybiody is going to hit the exits.

 
Comment by Crusader
2011-02-28 11:30:10

So it looks like the bubble is raising back up again. I thought the whole deal would finish unwinding by 2011, but now I’m think 2015.

Comment by bink
2011-02-28 13:22:30

Which bubble? I wouldn’t say the housing bubble is raising up again.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 11:32:39

Found a couple of housing-related nuggets in our local fishwrap:

1. Some leave, some plan to fight big UA-area student complex

The proposal is for lugg-zhury condos to house 500 college students. People in the surrounding neighborhoods are upset, as University of Arizona students aren’t renowned for their good behavior.

BTW, Yours Truly used to live across the street from what was originally billed as a lugg-zhury condo community. The condos didn’t sell, so the developers turned the place into a student apartment complex. We, the neighbors, were treated to such things as loud parties on any night of the week.

Not to mention trash in our yards, traffic speeding up and down the street, and a home invasion in one of the apartments. It was a case of mistaken identity — those poor kids had nothing to do with whoever the home invaders were seeking. But, be that as it may, they moved away from Partyville shortly after the invasion.

2. Foreclosure comes as bolt from the blue

So much for trying to work with your lender on a loan modification. Soon-to-be-former occupant of the house says, “I think all they wanted to do was string me along and try to get as much money as possible.”

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:30:46

“I think all they wanted to do was string me along and try to get as much money as possible.”
———————

Heard this very same comment from a friend who was going through the short-sale/loan mod/foreclosure deal. Just like we’ve been saying here (especially combo)…it’s all about saving the banks, and stringing these FBs along. Most of them would have been far better off if they had walked away 3-5 years ago.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 11:44:42

CA renter said:
Wrong again, NYCBoy.

Public employers have some of the most stringent anti-nepotism rules in existence.

Yeah right -

O’Brien has taken care of friends, too, finding jobs for the children of his Boston College football teammate, for a friend who ran a fur shop, for a former plasterer friendly with Cahill, and promoting two probation officers who moonlight as bartenders at a Northampton pizza joint frequented by one of his top deputies. Along the way, O’Brien’s family has also benefited…

O’Brien’s agency hired his daughter Genevieve, despite a warning that he might be violating the court system’s rules against nepotism. That gave O’Brien’s immediate family two jobs at the Probation Department, including his own, and two more under Cahill with a combined annual income of $260,000…

Similarly, some probation employees may feel pressure to support politicians backed by O’Brien. In July 2005, an impressive 45 probation employees — mostly senior managers — donated $5,900 to state treasurer Cahill. O’Brien said he played no role in orchestrating the donations to help out his fellow Quincy resident and the man who hired his wife to work in the state Lottery a few months later. Cahill said in a statement that he had known Laurie O’Brien for years and that she was hired based on qualifications…

Comment by measton
2011-02-28 15:36:12

Nepotism will become much more common.

When things are good the children of those in positions of power have many options. When things are bad the road to riches is much harder to find and more and more will turn to Daddy to fix the problem. Again another knife in the supposed advantages of America. The fall into third world status will be painful.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:27:29

Will become?!

 
 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:35:08

Hard Rain,

Not saying that it never happens, just saying that it is a lot less likely in the public sector than in the private sector. I’ve seen plenty of examples where people were NOT able to get a job because of their connections.

IF somebody actually does get a job because of connections, they absolutely better be sure they are qualified, because those other “evil union thugs” will complain loudly, and will demand that the “friend/family member” be terminated.

 
 
Comment by salinasron
2011-02-28 11:56:46

For what it’s worth, I enjoyed the read ‘nymag’ titled” Madoff: The jailhouse tapes”

 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 12:18:06

Maybe it’s different here in CA, but my gov’t paycheck includes me paying the following:

$632 month for health insurance
$96 month for union dues
$584 month towards STRS (state teacher’s retirement)

Sweet deal! 87,500 in salary to teach and huge retirement at the end.

CalSTRS’ formula, which is based largely on employee salary, age and longevity, tends to reward retirement at age 61½. For example, a teacher who has worked for 35 years, making $90,000 in her final year, could retire at age 62 and reap a $75,600 annual pension — 84 percent of salary. Teachers can add to their pensions by “buying” additional years.

By law, each teacher contributes 8 percent of salary to CalSTRS, the school district adds 8.25 percent, and the state puts in about 4 percent.

Compare that to the private sector, where employers and workers each contribute 6.2 percent to Social Security, and may contribute and match more through 401(k) savings. Teachers do not participate in the Social Security system.

Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 17:03:10

Salaries in my district ( a fairly high paying district in one of the most expensive cities in the country) top out at 82K - but that’s after 30 YEARS of teaching (30 years!!!) , for someone with a teaching credential AND a master’s degree.

Comment by sfrenter
2011-02-28 17:04:56

10 years of teaching with a credential (required) and a master’s degree = 53K.

Big bucks, huh?

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:30:48

Who are they going to believe? You or MSM?

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Comment by cactus
2011-02-28 19:31:02

Sweet deal! 87,500 in salary to teach and huge retirement at the end.”

maybe its not 12 months? 585/.08 = 7300 * some number of months worked say 9 = 65700 per year

87500 school teacher in CA seems too high even for me to beleive

I bag on CA Firemen sometimes because they game their retirement

School teachers the’re OK

Comment by Mike @Petco Park
2011-02-28 23:55:44

I met a 32 y/o CA teacher for Poway Unified School District. She had a masters and also taught special ed. 82,000/yr she told me was her salary. My ex g/f also got her Masters. It seems every teacher around here has a masters. Anecdotally my father said a teacher he dated read childrens books in their masters program. I don’t know what to believe anymore. I think we need more transparency for our teacher’s salaries.

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:39:03

You can usually find their salary tables on the internet.

One thing about public workers…their pay is usually publicly available.

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Comment by Kim
2011-02-28 12:29:34

Ooohhh… you guys are going to LOVE this one:

Linky:
ths gardenweb com/forums/load/realestate/msg021400597480.html

“Here is the story. I put my home in the market just 10 days ago for sale by owner(myself). The very same day a Realtor called me up and wanted me to take him as my agent. However, I nicely denied his offer and told him that I will keep him in mind and will get back to him if I am not successful. He did try to push hard on me but still I did manage to deny him for now.

I put up some “Sale By Owner” boards near the home, curbs, and the streets near by. Boards were bought at HD and Lowes ranging $8.98 to $2.98 (Big to small). Boards displayed my contact no.

Surprisingly, I saw that my boards placed in the street near the road divider were disappearing every day. At first I thought that may be city is removing it. If it is city, they would have contacted me at sometime by now. 4 boards vanished in 3 days.

I had to know who is behind this and put a camera facing the sigh from my home. Today, I did catch the culprit. It is the same Realtor who had contacted me before. I do have video him stopping the car at the sign board and pulling sign board out and getting in the car and driving away. He has covered his head with a hat and has a coat on him. So face is not clear however the physic is him. I had met him in one of the open houses in my area about 3 weeks ago.”

Nice, huh?

Comment by polly
2011-02-28 15:34:19

Did he remove a sign that was actuall on your property? Do you have a picture of the car and license plate? Because that is enough to bring to the cops in most places. They won’t do much, but they might send someone over to have a little chat.

I’d write a letter to the editor of your local paper without the name of the guy and a cry of how unfair it is to be a victim of a crime when all you are trying to do is save yourself and the future buyer of your home a little money.

You can’t buy advertising like that. Everyone looking for a house will want to see yours.

Comment by whyoung
2011-02-28 15:52:18

Might be youtube worthy, esp. if license # readable.

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-02-28 15:39:09

I’d key his car or throw a brick through the window.

or put some fresh paint on the far side of the sign and when he throws it in his car you got your man.

Comment by polly
2011-02-28 16:23:55

Key and brick can get you in trouble. Not worth it.

Paint on the sign is a nice trick if you have a good idea of when he will do it. Otherwise, the paint might dry.

 
 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 15:41:25

I’d actually call the guy and tell him I have video of him removing my signs, and tell him that I am demanding he replace all the signs, and become the caretaker for them once they’re back in place, or I’ll be reporting him to the police.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-02-28 16:18:33

Me? I wouldn’t even bother calling him. Instead, I’d make a report directly to the police. That’s the criminal action side of things.

I’d also have my attorney write him a nice little letter. And I’d have him send a copy of that letter to the state real estate commission, not to mention the local real estate association. That’s the civil action side of things.

I’ve found that people like this real estate agent are bullies. They like to push other people around. When you push back, they fold like a rickety card table.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:56:09

And this as well.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:46:20

File a report. Immediately. Make copies of the video. Give one with the report.

Set up another surveillance and see if you can get a better picture and establish a pattern.

Don’t expect the cops to do anything. The report is strictly CYA.

Eventual publicity will be much more effective.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-02-28 12:42:31

Former State Street Corp. (NYSE: STT) Chairman and CEO Ronald Logue recently notified regulators that he plans to sell $25 million worth of stock in the Boston-based company.

A graduate of Boston College, Logue joined State Street in 1990 as a senior vice president. As the company’s CEO, Logue received big-ticket compensation.

During his last three full years as State Street’s leader, for example, Logue’s compensation totaled nearly $60 million, according to SEC filings. That figure includes changes in the value of Logue’s pension.

Those TARP pay restrictions really did the trick…

From May 2009:

State Street said Monday it would sell new stock and notes to repay the government’s investment in the company, as many large financial institutions continue to seek an exit from the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

But the company, a mutual fund giant and institutional money manager based in Boston, also announced Monday it would take a $3.7 billion loss as a result of bringing entities known as conduits onto its balance sheet

 
Comment by cobaltblue
2011-02-28 13:30:44

And in case ya didn’t know, another little factoid not usually reported by the MBM (Make Believe Media):

If you have one dollar in your wallet, that’s more than the combined income tax liability of GE, ExxonMobil, Citibank, and the Bank of America.

Comment by ecofeco
 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-02-28 14:10:17

Realtors are turd burglars.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 15:20:04

Everywhere you turn, the media and politicians are asking “what can we do to help lift this economy?” like it’s some sort of impossible math equation, all the while ignoring the massive commodities speculation which is destroying it, ignoring massive outsourcing of jobs which is destroying it, ignoring massive taxes which are destroying it, ignoring horrific monetary policy which is destroying it, and on, and on, and on. I’m tired of hearing this nonsense.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-02-28 16:09:15

Well… they’re paid by thero Corporate TaskMasters to ignore those issues.

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-02-28 16:40:44

There’s something about just sitting back and watching the spectacle that’s become most alluring.

I guess for me the detachment is almost complete. I’ve given up on believing I or anybody can do a thing about where this is going. So meanwhile I’m watching the TBTFs pull the rug out from under themselves and doing all sorts of mental acrobatics to pretend what’s staring them in the face isn’t there. It’s like psychological thriller meets disaster movie. And even though we all know how this movie ends the personalities are oh so delicious in their weaknesses despite their declarations of godliness.

I’m sorry. I guess I’m just embracing the fatalism. Kind of liberating actually.
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“Everywhere you turn, the media and politicians are asking “what can we do to help lift this economy?” like it’s some sort of impossible math equation, all the while ignoring the massive commodities speculation which is destroying it, ignoring massive outsourcing of jobs which is destroying it, ignoring massive taxes which are destroying it, ignoring horrific monetary policy which is destroying it, and on, and on, and on. I’m tired of hearing this nonsense.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-02-28 17:13:07

CarrieAnn, that’s called a seat in the bleachers.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 22:23:12

CarrieAnn …..It is like watching a big drama playing out that
nobody wants to come to the right answers . Corruption dies hard

Grizzy ..Great post . It’s just all nonsense like you said .

I saw a cheerleader today pushing for more tax breaks for the
rich as the final solution to bring our Country out of all the problems .

I would like to start with the premise of why do Corporations
think that the USA is suppose to design all systems to give them the greatest profit margins with the least amount of tax paid by them and in return they give the USA back very little for having the right to fleece it as well as take our tax base and jobs outside America . Why does Wall Street think that directing excess funds toward their sector is productive for the United States as a whole ? Why does Wall Street think that destroying the lending secondary market to the point that F&F is the only
game in town ,while the tax payers had to keep them afloat by bail outs ,entitles them to any income at all . They should be taxed all their income until they pay for the real damage they caused instead of all this transferring to other entities all the pain .

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Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:44:22

Amen.

 
 
 
Comment by combotechie
2011-02-28 18:29:51

“I guess for me the detachment is almost complete.”

For me the detachment IS complete.

Events just have to run their course. Opportunities will pop up in their own time, on their own schedule.

Wait, watch, fire up some popcorn.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 17:59:02

Oh, they aren’t IGNORING anything.

They are the ones DOING IT.

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-02-28 15:44:25

GENEVA (Reuters) – Ford Motor Co’s (F.N) financial chief wants automakers in the European market to adopt “rational” behavior and put an end to incentive rates he sees as excessive.

“We’d like to see a more rational marketplace,” Chief Financial Officer Lewis Booth told reporters. “People are incentivizing cars so heavily it’s not a long-term rational strategy. We’d like to see the European market stabilize.”

Man that made me laugh.

We’d like an oligopoly that fixes prices.
We’d like the competition to help us out?
We’d like richer customers.
We’d like a candy crappin unicorn. Good luck Mr. Lewis.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 18:01:35

That’s just too damn funny.

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-02-28 16:55:45

This could result in a few NY homes being put up for sale:

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo aims to cap school superintendents’ pay

“Cuomo told The Associated Press that his (school superintendent salary) cap would be based on student enrollment. His bill would provide for a salary of $125,000 for the smallest rural districts and up to $175,000 for the largest districts, often in wealthier suburbs.

Cuomo’s bill would make superintendents subject to the cap once their current contract expires.

Currently, 31 percent of superintendents make over $179,000 with the highest being the Syosset schools superintendent on Long Island who is paid $386,868. Cuomo’s proposal, should it be passed by the Legislature, could force lower salaries for 319 superintendents, nearly half of the top district administrators in the state.

“We must wake up to the new economic reality that government must be more efficient and cut the cost of the bureaucracy,” said Cuomo. He has proposed a more than 7-percent cut in school aid to help contend with a $10 billion deficit and what he said is years of overspending. He said his cut can be handled by schools without layoffs and without hurting instruction.”

(AP via Syracuse.com)

As an aside, I’d like to say the poorer districts are going to take the hit on this way more than the wealthier ones and also it’s been interesting which districts trust or mistrust their superintendents. Union votes about salary freezes seem go hand in hand w/those districts who trust their superintendant to actually give back the raises when times turn good again. (Yeah, we know how that part’s going to end.)

 
Comment by measton
2011-02-28 16:59:47

WASHINGTON – China, the biggest buyer of U.S. Treasury securities, owns a lot more than previously estimated.

In an annual revision of the figures, the Treasury Department said Monday that China’s holdings totaled $1.16 trillion at the end of December. That was an increase of 30 percent from an estimate the government made two weeks ago.

The government made the change to its monthly report based on more accurate information it obtains in an annual survey. That survey more does a better job of determining the actual owners of Treasury securities.

FAT FINGER ACCOUNTING +/- 30%

Comment by cobaltblue
2011-02-28 17:27:48

Much of this increase was due to the fact that Great Britain had been “holding” for the Chinese, but now that scam is uncovered and the Chinese are tagged with more and GB with less.

All between friends; just for show, the old shell game.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 18:03:44

Good find.

You have to wonder what the REAL motive was for releasing the initial report without accurate data…

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 18:16:19

I’d own a lot of US dollars, too, if I had a printing press as prolific as China.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 18:54:01

dollars treasuries

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 01:00:08

They couldn’t do it if they didn’t send us so much stuff, as their currency would be too weak without all the dollars we send them…

 
 
 
Comment by michael
2011-02-28 18:01:21

was told to look for another job today…that’s how it shakes out when the boss says there are too many senior people in the group and one is his best friends wife….the other he has a hard-on for….the third is you.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-02-28 18:09:40

But, but, I thought if you just did good work and kept your nose clean you rise to the top! Or at least kept your job! (please note, this is not directed at you personally)

Seriously… I’m honestly sorry to hear that. Sincere good luck to you. A perfect example how it works in the REAL world.

Please keep us posted.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-02-28 18:17:56

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. You don’t know the right people. You’re disposable. Goodbye.

 
Comment by Muggy
2011-02-28 18:19:27

Sorry to hear that, dude. Cronyism seems more rampant now than during the boom.

 
Comment by exeter
2011-02-28 18:39:05

Are you for real or is this a troll?

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 04:47:55

I’m sorry to hear about the loss of your job, Michael.

FWIW, if you’re in tech, I’m hearing that a lot of companies are looking to hire.

Best of luck!

 
 
Comment by exeter
2011-02-28 18:40:57

Oh Carrie Anne…. I’ve got some interesting news regarding NYSAR. Catch up with me here tomorrow. You’re going to love it.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2011-02-28 20:01:15

Fun with graphs: Two representations of the Case Shiller graph:

Christian Science Monitor - dramatic.

Wall Street Journal - muted.

Which one most accurately reflects the reality of the situation? The WSJ graph with a gentle bump and a stabilization? Or the CS Monitor one with the dramatic mountain an an unexpected stop to the drop-off?

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 21:03:10

Funny! Both graphs suggest that many end-users who bought circa 2006 with a mortgage are deeply underwater as I type.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 21:06:43

The wrong message on unions
We may resent union perks, but they have had a valid role, and they should be a goal for more workers rather than something to cut in hard times.
By Sandy Banks
March 1, 2011

I was in Toledo, Ohio, last week, watching the labor union drama in Wisconsin unfold from a La-Z-Boy chair in a suburban home that was purchased, furnished and paid off by the wages of a factory worker.

Watching with me were union acolytes; family members who built comfortable lives in grocery store produce departments and on spark plug assembly lines.

They know the worth of union muscle and support those rallying Midwestern masses. They see the standoff for what it is: a political power grab; union-busting masquerading as budget-balancing.

But they also know the limits of union power, a lesson learned through disappearing jobs and downsized lives.

Their labor unions were no match for our long-brewing economic storm. They couldn’t keep auto plants from closing, grocery stores from rolling back wages or businesses from raising employee costs for everything from healthcare to parking passes.

Now they were watching from the sidelines as government workers waged a battle they had already fought and lost. In the brooding silence that settled in the room as the news droned on, I sensed resentment.

It was a familiar feeling to this visitor from California, where public employee unions — fat-cat bosses, gold-plated benefits and cushy pensions — have become a symbol, and a scapegoat, for our economic woes and political wrongs.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-02-28 21:11:15

If there is a federal government shutdown, will Congress stop taking their paychecks, too?

With government shutdown looming, freshmen are the wild cards
By David A. Fahrentholdand Philip Rucker
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, February 28, 2011; 10:46 PM

These 87 new members - who otherwise might have become foot soldiers for party bosses, or jittery pawns of their home-town tea party groups - have instead coalesced into a bloc with its own ideas and a headstrong sense of its muscle.

As Republicans and Democrats try to cut a short-term budget deal this week - and a more permanent one in coming weeks - the freshmen are the wild card. They have the power to derail the whole process. Again.

But even their own leaders don’t know if they will.

The freshmen’s willingness to do things their way stems from their hyper-confident vision of themselves, revealed in interviews in recent days with more than 30 members of the group. Many described their job as a “calling,” a sense that their grandchildren, their country or their God needed them to make hard decisions to right the government’s finances.

“We may be the last opportunity,” said Rep. Michael G. Grimm (N.Y.), a former FBI agent.

But now, the difficult part.

In the escalating budget fight - and other battles to come - the freshmen will face the capital’s hardest kind of decision: how to compromise on the issue they care about the most.

How much ground will the freshmen give before they defy the Senate and risk a government shutdown?

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 23:42:02

Crisis Commission report reaction .

Tape on “Will Washington wake up to Wall Street greed.”

http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/02/28/will-washington-wake-up-to-wall-street-greed/

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-02-28 23:53:36

‘Inside Job “….Cracking down on Wall Street . Where are the handcuffs .

http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/02/17/cracking-down-on-wall-street/

Interview of the Academy Award winner of Inside Job .

Comment by CA renter
2011-03-01 05:00:26

Thank you very much for those links, Wiz!

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-03-01 00:22:14

“Fighting Special Interest ”

Farmers banded together over a 100 years ago to fight the power of the
monopolies . Knights of labor got the 8 hour work day ,child labor laws
changed . The Political parties wouldn’t do anything and along comes
a President that ends up being a reformer …guess who ?

Go to the Dylan Ratigan Show and the Tape “Fighting Special interest .”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 00:44:04

Key Republican plans Fannie, Freddie wind-down
WASHINGTON | Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:37pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A key Republican in the U.S. House of Representative plans to reintroduce in “weeks or months” legislation that would wind down mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae (FNMA.OB) and Freddie Mac (FMCC.OB) within five years.

“I will be reintroducing the bill probably within a matter of weeks, maybe months,” Texas Republican Representative Jeb Hensarling said at the Reuters Future Face of Finance Summit.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is scheduled to appear before the House Financial Services Committee on Tuesday to discuss the Obama administration’s views on the matter.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 00:46:34

* FEBRUARY 28, 2011, 2:54 P.M. ET

Freddie Mac: Home Prices Fell In 4Q Across US
DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

The purchase price of U.S. homes fell 4.3% in the fourth quarter compared with a year earlier, as values declined across the country, according to Freddie Mac (FMCC).

Frank Nothaft, Freddie Mac chief economist, said Monday low mortgage rates, and the fact that foreclosed-property and short sales remain a big part of the market, contributed to pushing “homebuyer affordability to levels not seen in decades in most places.”

“This high affordability will likely translate into an increase in 2011 home sales relative to last year,” he said.

The real-estate market has been experiencing a choppy recovery since demand plunged last year when a popular tax break for first-time home buyers expired.

The mortgage finance giant Monday also said its Conventional Mortgage Home Price Index Purchase-Only Series showed the price of U.S. homes also fell 2.6% compared with the third quarter, without adjusting for seasonality.

Home prices fell in every region of the U.S. The sharpest drops were in the mountain division, the cluster of states west of Texas but not on the coast, where values fell 4.3% on the quarter and 9.6% in the last year. The Middle Atlantic–comprising New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania–saw the mildest declines, at 1.1% and 1.7%, respectively.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 00:52:06

* MARKETS
* MARCH 1, 2011

Fannie, Freddie Stuck In a Dividends Circle

Fannie Mae’s fourth-quarter income of $73 million, announced Thursday, was the company’s first profitable quarter in 3½ years. The bottom line doesn’t count $2.2 billion in payments that Fannie Mae had to make to the U.S. government, which was asked to pump an additional $2.6 billion into Fannie Mae.

Freddie Mac, which had a loss of $113 million in the latest quarter, paid $1.1 billion in dividends to taxpayers and asked for $500 million, partly to cover the dividend payment.

Company executives and outside groups such as the National Association of Realtors are prodding Treasury officials to reduce the size of the dividend to 5%, or the same percentage that U.S. banks paid in return for aid under the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

New loans are expected to “pay returns for many years, and they ought to find their way to taxpayers,” Fannie Mae Chief Executive Michael Williams said in an interview. “The question is: How does the government want to recoup their investment?”

In a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the National Association of Realtors said the current dividend payments are exacerbating losses at Fannie and Freddie, which in turn has prompted the two firms to further restrict their lending standards. Mr. Geithner is expected to testify before a House panel Tuesday morning.

Some mortgage-industry analysts contend that the dividend is so high that it runs at odds with the U.S. government’s stated goal of conservatorship, the legal process that put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under control of the Treasury Department and is designed to conserve their assets. The government also got warrants to buy as much as 79.9% of each company’s common shares.

Even in their best years, they rarely had the type of income to pay these dividends,” said Mahesh Swaminathan, senior mortgage strategist at Credit Suisse.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 00:57:23

I’m amazed how smoothly the GSE phase out bill is proceeding.

House seen backing housing bill
WASHINGTON | Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:16pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. House of Representatives will likely approve major legislation revamping the way Americans finance their homes by year’s end, a key Republican lawmaker said on Monday.

Rep. Scott Garrett, who chairs the House panel overseeing mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae (FNMA.OB) and Freddie Mac (FMCC.OB), told the Reuters Future Face of Finance Summit he expected his newly empowered Republican colleagues to approve a measure overhauling the structure of the Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) by the end of 2011.

“I would say that you would see GSE reform during the course of this year and what happens in the Senate is always a question mark,” Garrett said.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, the fourth-highest Republican in the House, told the Summit he plans to reintroduce legislation in weeks or months that would wind down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac within five years.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is scheduled to appear before the House Financial Services Committee on Tuesday to discuss the Obama administration’s views on the matter.

The Obama administration earlier this month announced several short-term steps to make government-backed mortgages, including loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration, more expensive going forward in a bid to lure private capital back to the mortgage market.

The administration also announced plans to phase-out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over time and presented Congress with three options for replacing them long-term.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 00:58:55

NO HOUSING BOTTOM FOR FIVE+ YEARS (AFTER 2011+5=2016).

This is the slated timetable for GSE reform…

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 01:03:37

* POLITICS
* MARCH 1, 2011

Billions in Bloat Uncovered in Beltway
By DAMIAN PALETTA

The U.S. government has 15 different agencies overseeing food-safety laws, more than 20 separate programs to help the homeless and 80 programs for economic development.

These are a few of the findings in a massive study of overlapping and duplicative programs that cost taxpayers billions of dollars each year, according to the Government Accountability Office.

A report from the nonpartisan GAO, to be released Tuesday, compiles a list of redundant and potentially ineffective federal programs, and it could serve as a template for lawmakers in both parties as they move to cut federal spending and consolidate programs to reduce the deficit. Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), who pushed for the report, estimated it identifies between $100 billion and $200 billion in duplicative spending. The GAO didn’t put a specific figure on the spending overlap.

The GAO examined numerous federal agencies, including the departments of defense, agriculture and housing and urban development, and pointed to instances where different arms of the government should be coordinating or consolidating efforts to save taxpayers’ money.

The agency found 82 federal programs to improve teacher quality; 80 to help disadvantaged people with transportation; 47 for job training and employment; and 56 to help people understand finances, according to a draft of the report reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Instances of ineffective and unfocused federal programs can lead to a mishmash of occasionally arbitrary policies and rules, the report said. It recommends merging or consolidating a number of programs to both save money and make the government more efficient.

“Reducing or eliminating duplication, overlap, or fragmentation could potentially save billions of tax dollars annually and help agencies provide more efficient and effective services,” the report said.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-03-01 01:19:56

Even Yun sees the shadow inventory at this point:

28 February 2011 Last updated at 10:54 ET
US pending home sales in January downturn
Home for sale in Miami, Florida Contracts are signed at the beginning of a home purchase, making them a leading market indicator

Newly-signed sale contracts - a leading indicator of the US housing market - slowed for a second month in January.

The index of “pending” home sales, published by the National Association of Realtors, fell to 88.9 from a downwardly-revised 91.5 in December.

Markets had expected a fall, but only to a level of 89.5.

Contracts are typically signed near the beginning of a home purchase, and the latest data suggests that completed sales may slow in February and March.

The index has shown a patchy recovery since bottoming out at 75.9 in June last year. A reading of 100 represents a healthy level of market activity.

“We should not expect the recovery to be in a straight upward path - it will zig-zag at times,” said Lawrence Yun, the Association’s chief economist in presenting the January report.

“While home buyers over the past two years have been exceptionally successful with historically low default rates, there is still an elevated level of shadow inventory of distressed homes from past lending mistakes that need to go through the system.”

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-03-01 05:46:30

Foreclosures helping change color of some suburbs

By Corey Williams
Associated Press
February 28, 2011

SOUTHFIELD, Mich.—Three years ago, Lamar Grace left Detroit for the suburb of Southfield. He got a good deal — a 3,000-square-foot colonial that once was worth $220,000. In foreclosure, he paid $109,000.

The neighbors were not pleased.

“They don’t want to live next door to ghetto folks,” he says.

That his neighbors are black, like Grace, is immaterial. Many in the black middle class moved out of Detroit and settled in the northern suburbs years ago; now, due to foreclosures, it is easy to buy or rent houses on the cheap here. The result has been a new, poorer wave of arrivals from the city, and growing tensions between established residents and the newcomers.

“There’s a way in which they look down on people moving in from Detroit into houses they bought for much lower prices,” says Grace, a 39-year-old telephone company analyst. “I understand you want to keep out the riffraff, but it’s not my fault you paid $250,000 and I paid a buck.”

The neighbors say there’s more to it than that. People like John Clanton, a retired auto worker, say the new arrivals have brought behavior more common in the inner city — increased trash, adults and children on the streets at all times of the night, a disregard for others’ property.

The tensions have not gone unnoticed by local officials.

“I’ve got people of color who don’t want people of color to move into the city,” says Southfield Police Chief Joseph Thomas, who is himself black. “It’s not a black-white thing. This is a black-black thing. My six-figure blacks are very concerned about multiple-family, economically depressed people moving into rental homes and apartments, bringing in their bad behaviors.”

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/02/28/foreclosures_helping_change_color_of_some

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-03-01 06:07:08

Story ignored by CNBC along with gold being at record high prices:
CAIRO (AP) - Saudi Arabia’s main benchmark stock index has plummeted by over 7 percent, in a drop fueled by mounting unrest in neighboring Gulf Arab nations and reports of the arrest of a prominent Shiite cleric in the Sunni Muslim nation.

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-03-01 06:12:33

For good news, Rep. Bauchus is on CNBC stating that housing must find its own bottom without gov. interference. So CNBC at least gets points for that.

 
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