April 23, 2011

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Comment by wmbz
2011-04-23 03:49:42

Strip-mall casinos multiply across nation
States, municipalities wrestle with growing number of ’sweepstakes’ joints. ~ MSNBC

Inside a one-story building on the edge of a strip mall in central Florida, Joy Baker calculates the sum total of her morning bets. It’s almost noon, and she’s down $5. Not bad. Her husband, Tony, sits a few feet away. “This is the most fun we’ve had in 20 years,” says Joy, who is 78 and retired. “At our age, we can’t hike. You can’t pay him to go to the movies. This gives us a reason to get up in the morning.”

Tony concurs. “We enjoy this,” he says. “We will be very bitter if the politicians take this away from us. I will take it personally.”

It’s a Wednesday morning in mid-March, and the Bakers are sitting inside Jacks, a new type of neighborhood business that is flourishing in shopping malls throughout Florida — and across America. Jacks bills itself as a “Business Center and Internet Cafe,” but it looks more like a pop-up casino.

Jacks is about the size of a neighborhood deli. There is a bar next door and a convenience store around the corner. Inside, jumbo playing cards decorate the walls. The room is filled with about 30 desktop computers. Here and there, men and women sit in office chairs and tap at the computers. They are playing “sweepstakes” games that mimic the look and feel of traditional slot machines. Rows of symbols — cherries, lucky sevens, four-leaf clovers — tumble with every click of the mouse.

John Pate, a 50-year-old wearing a Harley-Davidson T-shirt, says he is wagering the equivalent of 60 cents a spin. “This place is pretty laid-back,” says Pate. “You can come here and get your mind off everything. You’re not going to win the mortgage. You’re not going to lose the mortgage. It’s pretty harmless.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42721939/ns/business-small_business/

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-04-23 06:51:00

Lotteries and casinos are a tax on stupidity.

Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:11:26

casinos are a tax on stupidity.

I would argue lotteries more than casinos. At least with casinos you get an experience and can enjoy the game/drinks, the odds don’t change as you play (well, craps at least).

And hey, I think I’m ahead in my lifetime :)

Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-04-23 08:23:49

I win at the buffets everytime!!!

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 07:32:03

Pottersville.

It’s A Wonderful Life

 
Comment by Montana
2011-04-23 08:07:15

please God, don’t let me get that senile…

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-04-23 09:02:06

Really! If going to a casino is all that gets me out of bed in the morning, just shoot me and put me out of my misery. Especially slot machines - what a waste of valuelesss time.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 10:33:17

It’s hard to imagine a more depressing life than sitting in front of a slot machine, smoking and drinking. Every casino I have ever been in was a repulsive public display of uncontrolled compulsive vices.

Comment by Montana
2011-04-23 12:09:27

the casinos here are in a world of hurt since the statewide smoking ban..lol

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 11:26:21

I have to agree Montana.

I’d rather spend my days at the pool or the library.

 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 04:34:49

Report: WaMu rewarded employees who pushed dangerous mortgages

By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 9:10 p.m. Friday, April 22, 2011

In the fall of 2006, Washington Mutual was so determined to push its riskiest mortgages on customers that it created a football-themed employee bonus “blitz,” offering “touchdown” incentives for every sale of a pick-a-payment loan.

A non-prime loan was a “field goal” in the game to win a $1,000 gift card at the expense of home buyers who were purposefully steered away from fixed-rate, 30-year mortgages.

The campaign to sell high-risk loans, which contributed to the 2008 demise of the nation’s sixth-largest bank, is outlined in a 650-page report released last week by the U.S. Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.

Florida is mentioned repeatedly in the report. Washington Mutual’s loan sales were concentrated in the state, which ultimately suffered above-average home value depreciation.

Two years after the blitz, Washington Mutual was seized by its regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision.

It was ultimately sold to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion. Without the purchase, Washington Mutual’s failure might have “exhausted the entire $45 billion Deposit Insurance Fund,” the federal report says.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/foreclosures/report-wamu-rewarded-employees-who-pushed-dangerous-mortgages-1426463.html -

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-04-23 06:56:03

The Fed, Treasury, Obama Administration, and both political parties rewarded them generously as well.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 11:27:40

Damn FBs!

Oh wait…

(not to say there wasn’t plenty of irresponsibility on many FBs part, but the mortgage sellers were the gatekeepers)

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 04:39:18

From the state that brought you Wall St.:

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/north_syracuse_school_district_5.html

The North Syracuse Central School District has paid $465,000 for 4.9 acres near its high school in its first step toward moving ninth-graders into the school and adding full-day kindergarten in the elementary schools. (CA: Adding full day kindergarten? I thought schools were shrinking programs.)

The district plans to someday use the land — east of Cicero-North Syracuse High School — for a parking lot. (CA: Someday?)

The land’s tentative 2011 full market value is listed at $59,500 on the county’s real property website. Last year, the town’s assessment on the land was $61,224, records show.

School district officials have said the assessor’s records don’t reflect what people were actually selling — and paying for — land in that area. Other lots in the area sold for as much as $250,000 an acre in recent years. (commercial interests were moving in a few years ago but is that demand still there?)

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It’s ok because the state is going to reimburse the district 88 cents on the dollar. Oh wait! Don’t we pay into state taxes? Apparently the dots are never connected as this purchase was (reportedly) supported by taxpayers overwhelmingly.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-04-23 09:08:01

Is Syracuse growing? Do they really need more school buildings? I wonder who sold them the land.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 10:35:14

Who the f*** made the decision to pay that for 5 acres? This land bubble is nuts. I’m still seeing massive prices paid in the PNW for raw land.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 11:02:15

Grizzly, taxpayers overwhelmingly voted for it. If you tell people the state is picking up the cost everyone around here thinks its free money which tells you a little something about the local education.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 20:41:06

Got a friend whose family owns IL farmland in some kind of trust. I advised her to sell soon if there is any possible way to do so, before the farmland bubble (inevitably) pops.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-04-24 09:03:30

I advised her to sell soon if there is any possible way to do so, before the farmland bubble (inevitably) pops.

I’d advise her to sell half. Bubbles can last about 3 times longer than we expect.

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Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-04-23 05:04:46

Deflation?

Termites eat millions of Indian rupees in bank.

LUCKNOW, India — It was an all you can eat buffet at the bank.

An army of termites munched through 10 million rupees ($222,000) in currency notes stored in a steel chest at a bank, police in northern India said Friday.

The bank manager discovered the damage when he opened the reinforced room in an old bank building on Wednesday, police officer Navneet Rana told The Associated Press.

“It’s a matter of investigation how termites attacked bundles of currency notes stacked in a steel chest,” he said. The money was put in the chest in January.

The termites had damaged bank furniture and documents in the past.

The police have registered a case of negligence against bank officials in Barabanki, a town 20 miles (30 kilometers) southwest of Lucknow, the Uttar Pradesh state capital. In India, police register a case before opening an investigation.

Comment by Muggy
2011-04-23 07:47:28

You can’t eat gold!

Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:13:25

You can’t eat gold!

but you can drink it!

Comment by Muggy
2011-04-23 10:14:36

You can make Grillz, too, dawg!

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 05:31:44

Realtors Are Liars

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 06:19:08

Seinfeld (TV series 1990–1998). The Busboy

GEORGE: (Hands Antonio a card) Here’s my card. I’m in real estate, so, if you’re ever looking for something bigger, something nicer.. (Antonio is staring at him,
angered) ..maybe not right now. Anyway.. (Extends his hand for a handshake. Antonio doesn’t move)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ - 111k -

George to Jerry, It`s not a lie if you believe it.

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-04-23 10:20:53

Buyers were liars. Rhymes too.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-04-23 05:44:26

Sifting through current foreclosure orders I came across this fine company:

They must have participated in every scam known to the industry. A sample:

# A loan application prepared by Union Capital for a loan which ultimately closed on October 24, 2007, indicated that the borrower, a certified nursing assistant maintained two jobs. The loan application reflected the borrower’s gross monthly income as $5,101 monthly or $61,202 annually.
# A copy of a Verification of Employment (”VOE”) from the borrower’s primary employer maintained in the loan file indicated that the borrower earned $14.76 hourly for 40 hours a week or approximately $2,558.40 monthly and $30,700 annually.

Hundreds of similar outfits listed on the Massachusetts Enforcement website.

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=ocasubtopic&L=5&L0=Home&L1=Business&L2=Banking+Industry+Services&L3=Banking+Legal+Resources&L4=Enforcement+Actions&sid=Eoca

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-04-23 06:17:38

Uggghhh, just found out what some of the people I know who would have been working in real estate 5 years ago are doing. Anybody heard of “ACN”? Looks like a typical MLM scheme, just slightly better disguised than most.

Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:20:05

Not heard of it, but my latest serious girlfriend apparently was part of Amway (on the side). When I learned of this I threatened to break up with her, but she assured me it was something she tried once, but has one person who keeps buying stuff from her, so she passively made a thousand dollars a year or so.

It never sat well with me though…

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-04-23 10:53:29

I remember ACN pimping LCI long distance back in the early 90’s, it is an MLM company.

 
Comment by pdmseatac
2011-04-23 16:54:31

MLMs usually take off when the economy is doing poorly. Throughout my working life, I have been pestered to death by co-workers huckstering Amway, Primerica, some vitamin place, and various others whenever there was a recession. Oddly enough I haven’t encountered any Amway zombies during this slowdown; kind of surprising. Usually they want you to become their “downline” rather than buying stuff for your personal use.

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-04-23 06:33:04

SHANGHAI (AFP) – Shanghai authorities have offered concessions to truck drivers who staged a strike over rising fuel costs, amid concerns that anger over inflation could spark wider unrest in China.

Hundreds of drivers picketed this week at shipping sites in Shanghai, the world’s busiest container port, calling for lower port fees to offset damaging hikes in diesel prices, in a strike that prompted a heavy police response.

The natives are getting restless.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-04-23 06:57:44

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/8469640/Chinese-truckers-protest-increases-inflation-fears.html

The MSM has maintained a virtual blackout on this story despite its potential significance to global markets and Wall Mart shoppers.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 11:38:15

So let me get this straight…

We send jobs to the largest communist country in the world because the unions cost too much only to have their unions strike for higher wages because the cost of living is going up (but not because of American unions which have been gutted)… and get it.

Yeah, makes perfect sense to me. :lol: :roll:

 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-04-23 06:36:59

Why is there no transaction tax on the derivatives market? If there was just a 1% tax on these trillions of dollar ‘bets’ it would completely change the discussion on the huge public debt issue. Based on the size of the market this could be a trillion dollar income stream. What would happen if Monsanto couldn’t forward sell/short their projected sales? I have heard Buffet has sold put on the S&P index out to 20-30 years and has pocketed millions already? Brilliant!

Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:21:40

Why is there no transaction tax on the derivatives market?

why should there be a transaction tax on the derivatives market but not others? I’m not arguing for or against a tax, but why are transactions in that market worthy of taxation but not stock and bond transactions?

 
Comment by bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 09:35:53

Why must there be a new tax on anything? Your name is not Polly, so I cannot be sure if you are as infatuated with a command economy.

We have too many taxes now.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 11:32:20

Still seething from the fact that she routinely schooled you in every argument, huh?

polly - +100

bile - +0

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 16:28:52

Well with scoring from the likes of you, I am happy with my score. It means I did well.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 11:40:34

Bill, I hate to tell you, but we already have a command economy. It’s run by Wall St.

 
 
 
Comment by Anon In DC
2011-04-23 06:42:31

Hi. Several on this blog are always saying how “the rich” don’t pay their “fair” share in taxes. And that tax rates on the rich are lower then they have been or should be. I maintain that people pay taxes in dollars not percentages. But for those that are interested in percentages please see the below letter (22 April) to see who pays the income taxes in this country. Though a letter to the editor, newspapers, at least the NYT, fact checks letters. Some will argue that rich people have lots of unearned income. They probably do. But look at the dollar amount they pay. If someone with $300K in unearned income (say dividends) is paying $45K on it, they still are paying more than many people earn.

P.S. Speaking of rates, I think a fair tax would be the same percentage for everyone.

To the Editor:

The indignation of those on the left to the mere mention of tax cuts on high-income earners continues to puzzle me. Charles M. Blow’s argument that high-income earners are not paying their fair share of taxes is not supported by the facts.

To begin with, the tax cuts enacted by Congress in 2001 and signed into law by President George W. Bush lowered marginal tax rates for all income earners, not just the “rich.” Millions of low-income earners were dropped from the federal income tax rolls as a result, shifting the tax burden up the income scale.

As of 2006, 46 million American households paid no federal income tax. Those with incomes of $89,500 and up in 2006, representing the top 40 percent of income earners, paid 99.2 percent of all federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Incredibly, the top 1 percent of income earners paid 39.1 percent of all federal income taxes.

If 1 percent of the population pays 39.1 percent of all federal income tax receipts and 40 percent of the population pays nothing, which group is the glutton? Which is the plunderer?

SEAN F. FLAHERTY
Boston, April 16, 2011

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:21:05

“I maintain that people pay taxes in dollars not percentages.”

Why is that relevant? Let’s look through a hypothetical example before getting too wrapped up in platitudes:

- Joe the Plumber Family Situation

Work status: Somehow managed to stay employed during Great Recession
Marginal tax rate = 25% (just made up for illustration)
Household income = $50,000
After-tax income = $37,500 = available amount to pay for food, transportation, energy, shelter, etc

- Great Vampire Squid Bank Manager Situation

Work status: Somehow managed to keep receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in bonus pay, capital gains, etc during the course of the Great Recession, even though his firm lost hundreds of billions of dollars at the mortgage lending race track.
Marginal tax rate = 50% (just made up for illustration)
Household income = $5,000,000
After-tax income = $2,500,000 = available amount to pay for food, transportation, energy, shelter, yachts, vacations, etc etc etc

Take home message

People pay for food, transportation, energy, shelter, etc in dollars, not percentages, and the really rich bank manager has a much higher number of dollars left after paying his higher marginal tax rate than poor Joe the Plumber has after paying his relatively lower marginal tax rate. Of course, I suppose bankers are entitled to every penny they steal from the rest of us?

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 07:56:42

Well done Stucco.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 08:02:01

I honestly considered that to be a fairly weak post, but given that I penned it just after I woke up and before coffee, I give myself a B-…

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 08:47:45

Why do poor people pay little or no income tax?

A tacit recognition by government that you can’t get blood from a turnip.

If the rich guys with 100 quadzillion bucks are so interested in poor people paying income taxes, then maybe they should start hiring some people, and paying them enough income to tax.

The only people rich people are hiring right now are politicians and lobbyists.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 14:57:12

“Why do poor people pay little or no income tax?”

1. By definition, they have no money.

2. Everyone has to not only live somewhere, but also to eat. And most of us also have gas tanks to fill.

3. I realize that inflation is not supposed to be a concern, but the Fed’s printing press tax on food and energy is very regressive on the poor; in that sense, the inflation in volatile food and energy prices levies a larger tax on them than any of us who are relatively more fortunate.

 
 
 
Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:29:33

People pay for food, transportation, energy, shelter, etc in dollars, not percentages,

true, but the opinion put forth (presumably) was in the context of what would be “fair”.

I do find this a fascinating discussion - it’s interesting to hear the justification for different approaches to the problem. But could we keep the emotional hyperbole out of this?

“I suppose bankers are entitled to every penny they steal from the rest of us?”

Everyone here will agree theft is wrong. So let’s put that aside because there are any number of people earning large amounts of money legitimately, and they’ll be affected by this tax policy as well.

btw, PBear, I’ve not gotten an email from you regarding the FF Plugin. I promise I won’t bite :)

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 14:58:36

Thanks for the offer; I appreciating your putting the latest JTE on your web site.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:48:33

April 19, 2011, 1:41 pm
Rich People Still Don’t Realize They’re Rich
By CATHERINE RAMPELL

There’s a movement afoot to mail every taxpayer a “taxpayer receipt,” a breakdown of how the government spends its money. The goal is to educate people about where their taxes go, since Americans are famously unaware about such matters.

But as long as we’re talking about educating Americans about fiscal policy, why not start with what they actually pay in taxes, and what they earn, relative to their fellow Americans?

I am constantly amazed by how little Americans know about where they stand in the income and taxing distribution. The latest example is evident in a recent Gallup study, which found that 6 percent of Americans in households earning over $250,000 a year think their taxes are “too low.” Of that same group, 26 percent said their taxes were “about right,” and a whopping 67 percent said their taxes were “too high.”

Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 11:00:28

I actually don’t think we pay that much in federal taxes.

The state of NY I’m far far less enamored with.

 
 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-04-23 08:08:53

If by govenment policy the rich have shifted wealth to themselves then it is not surprising that having 40% of the wealth they would pay 40% of the taxes. Let us consider the meat packing industry as an example. In the the 1980’s it paid about $25 an hour. Without adjusting for inflation, it now pays about $10-12 and hour. While the workers still pay SS, (albeit at much lower amounts, one of the problems with the fund) the workers now pay very little in income taxes. The owner now pays much more in taxes since he makes much more income, very little of the savings have been passed on to the consumer. However, I am sure that the workers would much rather pay 20% income taxes on the $25 and have $20 minus SS than have $12 minus SS. What government policy caused this: illegal immigration which every poll demonstrates that the general public wants to stop. However, the rich want it and government refuses to do anything effective to stop it. Don’t say it cannot be stopped because Eisenhower did it when the political will was there. Other government policies have also decimated the middle class and enriched the rich, thus cry me a river over their tax rates and the amount of money they pay in taxes.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:08:47

Some illegals pay SocSec and Income Taxes, but they will (theoretically) not be able to claim SocSec. So any government who collects taxes from them has an incentive to keep the party going.

We need Mexican politicians and banksters to cross the border, and do the same work as our politicians and banksters, for 75% less.

The minute that happens, the Abrams and Bradleys will be lined up track-to track from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 12:13:06

Rich Republicans are majority shareholders in a lot of these companies. In public, they talk about a need for illegal immigration control. In private, they hire illegal immigrants to enrich themselves.

 
 
Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:26:30

But for those that are interested in percentages please see the below letter (22 April) to see who pays the income taxes in this country.

There’s a decent thread on iTulip on this subject, examining the effects of raising taxes on different segments of the population ( top 1%, 5%, 10% ), and what their effective tax rate would need to be to balance the budget.

Thanks for posting this, by the way. I’m in agreement.

Comment by dude
2011-04-23 18:10:26

… and all this without even taking into account the various cash transfer payments (EIC, Sec. 8, AFDC, EBT, etc.) which effectively give the poor a negative tax rate, even including SS witholdings.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-23 19:16:39

Isn’t the Fed propping up the stock market (as well as many other asset classes) a massive cash transfer to the wealthy? Who then pay ‘extra special low rates’ (because they’re job creators!) on their capital gains?

Welfare to the rich generally puts welfare to the poor to shame- both in quantity and audacity.

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Comment by dude
2011-04-23 23:15:29

15% is extra special low? I’m not defending the FED call but the fact remains that the richest pay most of the taxes in the this country and the poor often pay nothing in tax or receive cash for being poor.

 
 
 
 
Comment by bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 09:45:22

Class warfare.

This country did well without the 16th amendment and the myriad new taxes after that. Note we could not afford to be the world’s policeman or give government aid to the starving in African dictatorial regimes without all these taxes either.

Scrap them. No replacement with any sales tax. Taxation is no different from theft.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-04-23 10:05:50

Class warfare.

Bring it on.

Taxation is no different from theft.

You must not realize how grossly ignorant that sounds to 90% of Americans.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 10:32:34

I keep asking the “Tax is theft, government is always bad” crowd to pack up and move to Somalia, and show us the courage of their convictions, and the rest of us Socialists what a Nirvana it can be.

There may be some of them there, but they can’t contact us, because all the copper wiring for their computer and internet connections has been stolen.

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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 10:43:49

USA was not Somalia in 1913. Your argument is weak. The path we are on is the road to serfdom and I do not sanction it. You do.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 10:46:30

It’s a strawman argument that “there will be no law and order” if we drop all that government spending that has been around since Woodrow Wilson was President. Most of the acronymed organizations have been around since FDR days when they were “intended” to be temporary for the “emergency.”

There was law and order in 1912 before the income tax in the USA.

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-04-23 10:47:38

Why is it to any socialists that ANY reduction in taxes and spending we somehow wind up in Somalia?

How about we go back to spending and taxation levels from 50 years ago in America?

Here is a hint - up until the last 60s - NJ had NO income tax, no sales tax and low property taxes…

 
Comment by rms
2011-04-23 12:34:07

“How about we go back to spending and taxation levels from 50 years ago in America?”

Fifty years ago the other guys held Jerusalem.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-23 19:21:17

“USA was not Somalia in 1913.”

And the USA had plenty of ‘class warfare’ in 1913, and in the centuries prior. Your knowledge of history , like many libertarians, is weak, selective, and poorly informed.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 19:41:26

And your reading comprehension, sir, is retarded. I did not say there was no class warfare in 1913 nor the centuries prior. Like many socialists, your reading is selected, and poorly focused.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 21:59:03

Then stop characterizing pre- Woodrow Wilson era as nirvana……. retard.

 
Comment by bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-24 03:38:07

Stop your crush on the moochers in Washington D.C., retard.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-24 14:12:45

Coming from a hack and freeloader like you is laughable.

Thanks for the laugh.

 
 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-04-23 11:29:51

“Class warfare.”

“Bring it on.”

How is that working out for the non-rich in Brazil under the rule of Ms. Marxist Guerilla and her predecessor? Class warfare works really well for those who use it to take power and other well connected fellow leftists, not too well for everyone else.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 11:54:56

Constant increase in the middle class, is how it’s working, nickpapageorgio.

Why yes, you can confirm that on Google. I’m sure Rio will be glad to post multiple links on the subject as well.

Funny how you can’t say same the thing about us.

 
 
 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-04-23 23:08:41

“Taxation is no different from theft.”

Taxation is legal.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-24 04:22:49

“Class warfare. This country did well without the 16th amendment [1913] and the myriad new taxes after that.”

“I did not say there was no class warfare in 1913 nor the centuries prior. ”

You strongly implied there was a lot less. A view that is simply wrong- ask anyone with any knowledge of history. (ie not a libertarian)

 
 
 
Comment by Anon In DC
2011-04-23 06:53:34

From todays NYT - front page, above the fold
Builders of New Homes Seeing No Sign of Recovery
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/23/business/economy/23housing.html?_r=1&hp

* New single-family sales are now lower than at any point since the data was first collected in 1963, when the nation had 120 million fewer residents.

*.. sentiment might still be souring. Executives at Equity LifeStyle Properties, a Chicago firm that sells properties in resort communities, said this week they were seeing “a psychological change”: potential customers wanted to preserve their capital rather than risk it in real estate

*Builders and analysts say a long-term shift in behavior seems to be under way. Instead of wanting the biggest and the newest, even if it requires a long commute, buyers now demand something smaller, cheaper and, thanks to $4-a-gallon gas, as close to their jobs as possible.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:29:36

“Builders of New Homes Seeing No Sign of Recovery”

I woke up thinking about this, in terms of Toll Brothers’ stock price. Why is it so buoyant around $20, rather than earth-bound, given that the new home building outlook perpetually turns out ‘worse than expected’?

‘Tis a puzzlement…

P.S. I don’t really mean to single out Toll; but they are a poster child for the home building industry during the bubble, and it seems puzzling how any company’s stock price could remain on a permanently high plateau in the face of such terrible fundamentals, unless made possible through extraordinary intervention measures. I thought by now that their employees would all be living in their parent’s basements.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:43:08

Perhaps the wacky mix of derivatives bets on Toll’s stock some how add up to plunge protection in perpetuity?

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-23 19:30:29

“‘Tis a puzzlement…”

Well, they’ve got a P/E of 81, so that’s pretty solid, especially considering our future need for more houses. I’d go all in.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 22:39:18

“…they’ve got a P/E of 81…”

BwaHahAhahAhaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAH!!!!!!

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:42:06

The weather must be pretty bad for home construction in Chi-town?

P.S. Does a car qualify as a fixture in the Chicago-area? If so, can it be legally financed on a mortgage loan?

Just askin’…

RICHMOND, Ill. — In this distant Chicago suburb, a builder has finally found a way to persuade people to buy a new house: he throws in a car.

The promotion has helped sales at the development in Richmond, Ill., but business is still relatively slow.

Kim Meier’s spring promotion, which includes a $17,000 credit at a nearby General Motors dealer, has produced seven sales since the beginning of March, a veritable windfall of business for a builder who sold only 20 houses last year. “We needed to do something dramatic,” said Mr. Meier. “The market’s been soft.”

That is one way of putting it. The recession hurt a lot of industries, but it knocked the residential construction market to the mat and has kept it there, even as the broader economy has started to fitfully recover.

Sales of new single-family homes in February were down more than 80 percent from the 2005 peak, far exceeding the 28 percent drop in existing home sales.

Four out of 10 sales of existing homes are foreclosures or otherwise distressed properties. Builders like Mr. Meier who specialize in putting up entire neighborhoods on a city’s outskirts — Richmond is some 50 miles northwest of downtown Chicago — cannot compete despite chopping prices.

Chicago was not an epicenter of the housing boom with the sort of overbuilding found in Arizona or Florida, but new-home sales in the metro area are down 90 percent. There are about 65 sales a week for a region of 10 million people.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 08:59:48

Why not cut the price by $17,000? That’s right, because that $17,000 “credit” doesn’t cost him or the dealer 17 thousand bucks. At least he should have made the credit at the Honda dealer.

This is the type of export we should be sending to China. Guys like this will either “level the playing field” rapidly, or be executed for being a scumbag. A win-win.

Making payments for 30 years on a car. Good God……..

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 10:27:18

“Making payments for 30 years on a car.”

The article describes this ‘new home with a car on the side’ as though the builder thought the idea up and is trying it out for the first time in history on his customers, but long-time HBB posters will recall a discussion (which I may have initiated) about the legality of a scheme to finance both a home and a car on a mortgage loan. There is no way you can pretend the value of a $17,000 car is not reflected in the purchase price of the home, or that the car is a fixture, and hence part of the house that can legitimately be financed on a mortgage (unless they have changed the law so that cars can be financed on home loans).

Another perspective is that whatever the home sells for in these deals is unrepresentative of the market value, as $17,000 should be deducted from the purchase price to reflect the value of the car that was bundled in with the purchase; in this manner, the ‘car with your home’ scheme hides the amount by which new home market values have dropped.

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Comment by Hard Rain
2011-04-23 07:16:38

Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:00am EDT

* Coverage protects against FDIC clawbacks

* Pays for both legal fees and lost compensation

* Marsh says will not cover illegal behavior

By Ben Berkowitz

NEW YORK, April 21 (Reuters) - Insurers are giving bankers a new tool to fight back against regulators.

Last year’s financial reform law allows regulators to seize up to two years of pay from reckless bank executives, but now insurers are offering coverage that can reimburse bankers whose compensation is confiscated.

Insurance broker Marsh said on Thursday it is launching such a program, which it calls the first of its kind. It did not name the insurers underwriting the policies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/banks-insurance-idUSN2014051220110421

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-04-23 08:00:29

I wonder what the cost is for each $1 Million of income to be covered? And I betcha the executive gets to put it on his expense account, meaning he is reimbursed by his employer for that cost.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 10:36:06

Tomorrow’s headline:

“Insurance company announces plan to “compensate” crack dealers who have been arrested.”

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-23 19:35:22

Sure would be interesting to get a look at the list of who bought this insurance. There’s a job for wiki-leaks.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-04-23 19:40:00

Now that I think about it, every board will probably buy it for its executives. Part of the ‘pay package’. Kind of like a golden parachute.

 
 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-04-23 07:42:41

Nice to see the managed fund scam slowly losing air. Many of these “pros” are dimwitted offspring of the elite who need a big pay check….

BOSTON — Pay a fund manager above-average fees and it’s reasonable to expect you’ll have a better than 50-50 chance of beating the stock market.

Yet the latest numbers show a majority of managers aren’t keeping up their end of the deal. It’s a key reason why investors have been pulling cash out of managed funds at a rapid clip in recent years. It’s even happening to big mutual funds that have delivered above-market returns.

A few ugly numbers:

Over the past five years, nearly 58 percent of managed U.S. stock funds failed to beat a broad measure of the market, the Standard & Poor’s composite 1500. That’s according to S&P’s ninth annual scorecard of managed fund-vs.-index performance.

Investors pulled a net $323 billion from managed stock funds over the past four years, according to Morningstar. That’s about 10 percent of the assets those funds hold.

Index funds are different animals. Their investors expect to match performance of the market segment the fund tracks. Index funds typically charge less than managed funds because they don’t have to pay investment-picking pros.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Stock-pickers-lament-about-money-going-out-the-1348795.php#ixzz1KMCWXnGd

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:13:43

The “experts” vs. “monkeys throwing darts”,

and the “experts” are losers 58% of the time.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-04-23 07:51:59

Alright Floridians, at what point can I box up my neighbor’s cat and drop him off at the animal shelter? I spoke with the owners today and they said they’d “try” to keep him indoors, but he doesn’t like that.

I am tired of picking up chit and carrion about my property. And last night the cat was brawling with the neighborhood stray in our front yard and it woke the fam up. He also lounges on my son’s windowsill.

I don’t know if the owner was encouraging me, but she said, “he ain’t chipped or collared.”

Tonight there might be two prowlers in my yard.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-04-23 08:04:28

Prestone. Just an ounce or two in a small dish.

We occasionally see feral cats prowling our yard, looking out for an unwary chipmunk I guess. They don’t seem to last even a year, as there are coyotes here as well.

Comment by Muggy
2011-04-23 08:51:49

I can’t see myself doing that, unless these conditions apply:

1. Cat attacks my kids
2. I can’t box it it / trap it
3. The owners do nothing

I’ll give the animal shelter a call on Monday…

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 09:30:18

“I’ll give the animal shelter a call on Monday…”

Or you could call a cat juggler today!

Roll the ugliness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qbc2J0zZr8 - 119k -

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Comment by MrBubble
2011-04-23 14:36:11

Or the Cat Detector Van from the Ministry of ‘ousinge…

 
 
Comment by PawPawMI
2011-04-23 11:09:05

Muggy

We’ve had this problem in the past. I bought the kids SuperSoakers. Also encouraged them to sneak up on the cat and use the garden hose if possible. The kids had fun, the cats were no worse for the wear.

PawPawMi

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Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:52:55

Prestone. Just an ounce or two in a small dish.

that’s a horrible way to kill an animal. call animal control or find a rescue group to come trap it.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:16:24

Adopt a greyhound for a day or two.

Or invite any of the local coyotes over.

“Circle of life”, baby…….. :)

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:24:52

Even better idea….

-Catch cat.

-Find neighborhood where all of the realtors/banksters/homebuilders live.

- Dump cat.

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Comment by Muggy
2011-04-23 10:11:42

Our county has a 24/hr. humane animal dropoff (shaded cages with water, and volunteers come every day to take them in). I will box it and take it there if my naybs can’t control it. I did this once before with a true stray (cue Hwy!), but since this belongs to someone, I’ll hold off for a while.

It would really need to be an out of control situation for me to off that thing… like, it attacks my family every time we open the door.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 10:39:31

Cats don’t “belong” to anyone. Just ask them.

 
 
 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 16:36:20

“Prestone. Just an ounce or two in a small dish.”

What an absolutely disgusting thing to do. You are one sick dude. I’d like to feed you a gallon of it, and be done.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-04-23 19:05:39

Sorry exeter. I’ll also remove the D-con containers from the garage floor first thing in the morning.

BTW, I hope everyone enjoys their Easter leg of pig or leg of baby sheep dinner tomorrow.

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 21:53:25

Riiiiight. Because killing the kid next door’s pet in a cruel and sadistic manner is the same as eating meat. You’re even more disturbed than I originally thought.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 22:03:54

Indeed he is.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2011-04-23 22:45:52

Actually, I’ve roasted whole lambs before. A doctor friend examined the heart out of curiosity. Said the thing had a heart attack. I don’t think the slaughter line is an easy place for the slaughtered.

Just sayin.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 10:04:41

“Alright Floridians, at what point can I box up my neighbor’s cat and drop him off at the animal shelter?”

Yesterday.

That cat had the right to remain silent, it didn’t. No cat no crime. “he ain’t chipped or collared.” He probably isn’t neutered, you would be doing a public service. That cat had his chance, now off with his….

“neutering”, or castration, is the removal of a male cat’s testicles.

WHY NEUTERING IS A GOOD IDEA

The main reason to neuter a male cat is to reduce the incidence of objectionable behaviors that are normal in the feline world but unacceptable in the human world.

ROAMING
More than 90% will reduce this behavior with neutering
Approximately 60% reduce this behavior right away

FIGHTING
More than 90% will reduce this behavior with neutering
Approximately. 60% reduce this behavior right away

URINE MARKING
More than 90% will reduce this behavior with neutering
Approximately 80% reduce this behavior right away

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 11:22:07

Adopt a lab or another animal who likes to chase.

I find cats hate waterpistols too.

 
Comment by Anon In DC
2011-04-23 11:22:54

Many places there are no leash laws against cats. They allowed to roam at will. Would the shelter take the cat?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 12:55:06

Sprinkle liberal amounts of red pepper (cayenne) around your yard. (buy the large container and use all of it)

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:57:17

I guess in this economist’s world, an independent central bank is entitled to pick winners and losers in the global economy as it sees fit? Probably a good idea to keep in mind all those bankers on the board of The Economist magazine when interpreting Ip’s perspective…

Economic theory versus the real world: An author spotlights the difference
April 05, 2011

Although the U.S. economy is doing better, some thorny financial issues still confront the nation. For perspective on how investors can interpret events, we interviewed Greg Ip, U.S. economics editor for The Economist and author of a new book, The Little Book of Economics: How the Economy Works in the Real World.

What do you think about the criticism that the Fed has faced in the past few years?

Greg Ip: I think the lion’s share of the resentment toward the Fed is related to the fact that we had a very deep recession with high unemployment. I also think there’s a segment of the population that is concerned that the Federal Reserve, which is by design a very powerful and independent organization, took some pretty radical steps in the last few years, steps that were probably necessary and justified to prevent the economy from sinking into a truly catastrophic collapse. But actions like bailing out individual companies or printing money are going beyond the bounds of what we expect the central bank to do. And it’s understandable that people would recoil at that.

I do think the storm cloud seems to be passing. Although there were discussions in Washington about weakening or altering the powers of the Fed, and perhaps subjecting it to congressional oversight or a government accountability office, most of those proposals came to naught, and I think the reason why is that the congressional leadership in both parties and in the White House realized that, for all its faults, the Federal Reserve is best left alone to do the best they can with the tools they have.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:43:18

Note the use of the word “resentment”……not “criticism”.

“….had a deep recession….” HAD?

“……most of those proposals came to naught, and I think the reason why is that the congressional leadership and the White House have been bought and paid for, and realize that kissing the azzes of the banksters is the most personally profitable course of action”.

Fixed.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 10:02:02

“resentment”

Megabank, Inc is clearly entitled to every zero-interest loan the Fed prints for them, regardless of whether the rest of the U.S. of A. resents them or not.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 10:04:29

“…bought and paid for…”

That’s where a printing press technology and the ability to lend, at zero percent interest, to private banking allies with the ‘free speech rights’ to send money to any politician they please comes in right handy…

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 10:07:11

Fed on the Ropes? Bernanke to Hold Press Conferences
Written by Thomas R. Eddlem
Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:14

The recent decision by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to begin holding press conferences may be one more indication of the increased influence of Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas). The Federal Reserve has long ignored the public and conducted its proceedings in cloister, but the Wall Street Journal reported April 21 that Bernanke will hold the Fed’s first scheduled press conference ever after Wednesday April 27 Open Market Committee meeting.

The meeting will determine changes, if any, in Federal Reserve target interest rates and the fate of the “quantitative easing” program of the Federal Reserve to purchase some $600 billion in U.S. government debt securities by June. Most observers expect interest rates — currently set at historic lows, nearly zero — and the quantitative easing program to continue as scheduled.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 07:59:13

Economy
Dollar’s Decline Speeds Up
WSJ p. A1

The U.S. dollar’s downward slide is accelerating as low interest rates, inflation concerns and the massive federal budget deficit undermine the currency.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-04-23 12:57:54

You could have read the exact same headline 30 years ago.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 15:12:32

In 1981? Wasn’t that just before long-term Treasury yields rocketed up to 15%?

Hopefully these two developments are not inexorably correlated, as 15% Treasury yields and more generally, much higher interest rates, in the current environment would be very painful, except for retirees who depend on interest on their savings for money to buy food.

 
 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 08:01:31

When I read certain websites I realize there is a certain number of upper income and lower wealthy households that have an Armageddon back up plan. That plan includes having purchased a home away from the city and they’ve been stocking those homes w/food, water, ammunition. Perhaps those people are responsible for this:

Obtaining housing in Vermont remains an uphill financial climb for a large proportion of the state’s residents, according to a report from the Vermont Housing Finance Agency.

• About 47 percent of renters and more than a third of homeowners who have mortgages pay more than 30 percent of their income for housing costs.

• The median home price in Vermont in 2010 was $195,000, up 3 percent over the previous year. That climb bucks trends in much of the rest of the country.

• Unlike much of the rest of the country, home vacancy rates are low.

• The median price of a newly constructed home in Vermont was $295,000.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20110422/NEWS02/110421009/Affordable-housing-out-reach-more-more-Vermonters-report-says?odyssey=obinsite

Comment by albuquerquedan
2011-04-23 08:21:36

What the article leaves out is that rebates for taxes that both renters and homeowners receive. Much of the rent paid in Vermont is taxes, I don’t know how the state can continue to afford these rebates but they drive up rents which then drive up housing costs. Vermont is a classic example of how government can drive up housing costs with good intentions. They also have strict environmental laws which limited building during the boom. I love the state and support the environmental laws but cannot see how they can continue to subsidize the housing costs.

 
Comment by bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 09:55:34

The problem is that Armageddon of the Atlas Shrugging variety might not come for three decades. Then those people are stuck with the fact that the cost of maintaining two houses is not worth it.

I would think it could be worthwhile by those whose investment incomes average several times times those costs though.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 11:47:48

Whenever I watch Steven Spielburg’s War of the Worlds I think about the Armageddon crowd.

Tom Cruise lives in the city. The aliens appear and send out a pulse that knocks out all electrical current including batteries. A neighboring business, an auto repair shop immediately checks to see if just changing the solenoid will allow a car to start. It does but then the aliens move in and start annihilating. Tom steals the car and amscrays out of town. He’s got a bit of food, his kids and a hand gun.

He avoids crowds being one of the few people w/this type of supplies but soon risks falling asleep and so he hands over the wheel to his 15 year old. His son drives into town thinking that will be easier. It isn’t long before a terrified and desperate crowd spots the car and starts a near riot dragging the hapless family out of the vehicle. Separated from his children and fearful for their safety in the frenzy, Tom pulls out his hand gun. For a minute everyone freezes and he has their undivided attention until someone w/a bigger gun comes up behind him and aims it at his head. Tom loses the car and its contents and then his family becomes part of the helpless mob thankful to still be alive.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-04-23 17:05:14

The problem is that Armageddon of the Atlas Shrugging variety might not come for three decades.

Hopeless….

Dude, the book is fiction and the author was a nut job.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-04-23 10:21:40

That plan includes having purchased a home away from the city

Never understood the logic. I like my chances fending off a drug addled gangster than a heavily armed rural with the patience to sit in a tree strand all day, in below zero temps…

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 12:36:39

A lot of people have more money than sense. What these types fail to realize is that they stick out like a sore thumb in rural America. The people who have lived out in the sticks all their lives know of everyone in the area. When these wealthy types move in, it’s no secret to anyone, and they oftentimes become targets for burglary, etc. If the sh!t really hits the fan, their big gardens will be raided, their guns and valuables taken, and they will likely run away in fear. I just can’t envision these types protecting their “compound” with fire power. It just won’t happen, especially when Bubba and all of his friends show up in camo’s with AR-15’s.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 12:47:28

Exactly. Sometimes following the crowd to “safety” or better things is a bad idea. Like the crowd in 2002 through 2006 who bought overinflated stucco boxes.

There will be plenty of good people in the cities who never ever had the notion of leaving: Manhattan for example. A lot of moneyed people who don’t even own cars. Doctors who know they will be needed for example.

In health emergencies, what may be minor in a city may be life threatening in the country. I would not be surprised if some study comes out and finds that life spans in the rural parts of America are shorter than in the large metro areas.

If you are like me, cannot shoot straight, you are better off calling 911 for your neighborhood police precint to get to you. In my Phoenix area, the precint is a couple streets over. Out in the boondocks with my .45 and my two clips, I have 14 chances of shooting straight. I took target practice lots of times and yes got the general area of lethality. But you still need cops fast.

Use of a gun in the Phoenix metro to protect yourself - with a warning shot - is enough to scare away most bad people. In the country, it’s a challenge to the bad people.

I can expect in most average sized cities, most people will be rushing to the freeways to get out. But they won’t survive “out there” in the boonies.

Better to have a well stocked pantry and keep lots of water. You don’t need to anticipate five years of supplies. Just a few months will do.

 
 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-04-23 08:26:41

I more than “suggest” it …

Private-college group: Financial disclosure bill ‘needless’

A statewide college association says that Massachusetts legislation that aims to make the financial handlings of private colleges and universities more transparent is “needless” and would harm private education.

The bill is driven by a report released last spring that examined six area schools, including five in and around Boston.

The report, issued by the Center for Social Philanthropy at Boston-based Tellus Institute and partially funded by the Service Employees International Union, says some non-profit, tax-exempt higher education institutions were involved in high-finance-style practices that contributed to the global financial crisis.

“They made foolish financial decisions,” said state Senator Patricia D. Jehlen, a Somerville Democrat and the lead sponsor of the bill. “And the question is now, have they changed or are they, like many people on Wall Street, doing the same thing they were before the financial crisis and making other people pay for their mistakes?”

However, Richard Doherty, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts, said his association opposes the legislation and plans to denounce it when it reaches the public hearing process.

“It’s unclear to us what public policy problem the bill solves,” Doherty said. “We think there are any number of provisions in it that would cause harm,” to private higher education.

The bill, as it is drafted now, would require each private college and university in the state and their related organizations to report federal, state and local taxes they would have paid had they not been exempted as non-profits. Institutions owning more than $10 million in investments and/or real property would report a list of, and value, for each.

Doherty said the provision for calculating potential for-profit taxes “has a suggestion embedded in that that tax exemption is a loophole” and that “it’s unclear what’s done with that information and why it’s helpful.”

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/04/private-college.html

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 09:35:02

“Non-profit” should be changed to “Tax sheltered”

All those cool, 1-2 million dollar warbirds flying around at airshows? Rich guy toys, all operated as “non-profits”.

Get a huge tax deduction up front for “donating” it it the “non-profit”. Then, coincidentally, you get to fly it for the “non-profit”, and fuel/maintenance is another “donation” and another tax writeoff.

 
 
Comment by drumminj
2011-04-23 08:42:35

For those who are interested in the JoshuaTree Extension for Firefox 4, I’ve finally gotten around to uploading the new version to the website. Just click on the link in my name and follow the directions on the page.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-04-23 11:17:55

Thanks. I haven’t tried FF4, but this removes one big barrier to that.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 09:54:43

However terrifying the prospect of a large earthquake, I don’t miss the omnipresent threat of tornadic thunderstorms in the Midwest.

Tornadoes Hit St. Louis and Close Its Airport
Jeff Roberson/Associated Press

Storm damage was seen next to a parking garage outside Terminal 1 at St. Louis International Airport on Friday.
By MALCOLM GAY and ELIZABETH A. HARRIS
Published: April 23, 2011

ST. LOUIS — A fierce storm carved a path of destruction here late Friday, downing trees, destroying homes and tearing parts of the roof off Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, forcing it to close.

“All airline operations have ceased,” said Jeff Lea, an airport spokesman. Airport officials said they hoped to be operating at 70 percent of the usual capacity on Sunday.

Half the windows were blown out in one section of the airport, and large chunks of the roof were peeled away by the wind in another. Debris was scattered around the airport. Nine tornadoes were reported in St. Louis alone.

“Glass was blowing everywhere,” Dianna Merrill, 43, told The Associated Press. Ms. Merrill was waiting in the airport when the storm struck.

“The ceiling was falling,” she said. “The glass was hitting us in the face. Hail and rain were coming in. The wind was blowing debris all over the place. It was like being in a horror movie. Grown men were crying. It was horrible.”

Despite the destruction, there were no fatalities or serious injuries resulting from the storm.

“We were very fortunate on that end,” Mr. Lea said.

Comment by bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 10:04:52

So far in the five months in Tampa, I experienced two weather systems with tornado warnings. I hear from the locals that I am in for a weather watcher’s dream May through October.

Have been through a tornado in Oklahoma as a kid, but I was too young to be scared. My parents remained calm and kept us kids calm. We were in a car towing a trailer.

I prefer Phoenix. No killer quakes, twisters, icy roads or hurricanes. The heat is bearable. The steak at Donovan’s on Camelback tastes great on the 95 degree evenings and service is as great as in the snowbird season.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 11:00:58

As long as the tornado, or the baseball sized or larger hail, or the 100mph winds in gust front don’t hit you, tornado season is fun.

Tornado sirens around here are the signal to go get the video camera out of the closet.

Tornado chasing is kind of a challenge. First, deciding if a storm system is worth chasing, then deciding which storm is worth chasing, then getting to the right position to chase that particular storm. South of the storm is (usually) good. Northeast is bad, for a bunch of reason…..at least if keeping your vehicle from being torn to crap by hail is a priority. Cellphone 3G coverage is non-existant, so you have to turn on the laptop and look for unsecured/free wi-fi whenever you go thru a town, to get the latest NWS info/NEXRAD.

And if you are more than a few miles out of position, you will miss, because those storms are usually travelling 40-50 mph cross country, and it’s tough to catch them without driving like a bat outta hell.

Hey, it’s what passes for entertainment out here in the middle of nowhere….. :)

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 11:48:21

Are you in Tornado Alley? Although I was mortally afraid of twisters as a child, I have always been fascinated by them, too. Part of me wishes I could be a storm chaser, or at least try it out one time…not sure my desire is strong enough to bring the experience into being, though. (In CA, the biggest twisters are F1 or so.)

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-04-23 17:03:25

The 1991 Andover F5 passed 300 yards south of our house.

Went to work, and the sky was a really ugly grey/green. Atmosphere literaly made your skin crawl. You could look straight up, and see different layers of cloud moving in different directions. Started my shift, had my line service guys start hangaring airplanes, and all of us foreman/supervisors were outside on storm watch. Didn’t have to wait long.

Saw the storm, but wasn’t close enough to see the tornado. Knew it was going to be close to the house, so called the wife, told her to get to the basement NOW. About that time, the tornado warning sirens went off. Made sure everyone was at the tornado shelter, and power carts were pulled off airplanes, then called the house again. Line was dead. $hit……..

Got to the house about 20 minutes after it hit. Police and Sheriffs Dept already had the streets in the area blocked off, but I knew about a dirt road that paralleled a creek bed that got to the house, so off-roading we went.

Tornado hadn’t reached F5 size when it went by the house, approx F3. Trashed everything in a 150-200 yard wide path. Pulled an old tree with a trunk 3-4 ft across completely out of the ground, roots and all, and laid it on it’s side. What I’d never seen before was what happened to the houses just outside the main path. They were basically intact, but they all looked like porcupines from all the 2×4s sticking out of them. A couple of fatalities, lots of bleeding people (a lot of the older houses south of us didn’t have basements). Neighbors were helping out the injured as best they could, and were checking houses for trapped people. Lots of gawkers/looters driving into the neighborhood, scoping things out.

About 15 minutes after I got there (approx 30 after the tornado), about 50 cop/sheriff’s cars descended on the area all at once, followed by a bunch of EMS vehicles. First thing they did was run ALL the rubberneckers out of the area; if you didn’t have an ID showing you lived in the area, or have someone with an ID who vouched for you, you were gone. FAST. Area was locked down for 7-10 days, as I recall.

Remember, the tornado is still on the ground 10-15 miles east of us, and has torn up a bunch of other neighborhood.
Unlike the Feds in New Orleans, the locals had an emergency plan, and ran the playbook about as well as could be expected.

Tornado hit us around 5pm. We were lucky, and had power back about 9pm

The 5/3/1999 Haysville, Kansas F3 passed a mile west. It was strange. Huge thunderstorm cell south of the house when I left, but figured we’d miss it, because storms/tornados usually track NE. This one tracked almost straight north. Trashed Haysville (with fatalities) 3-4 miles south of us, but by the time it got to our area, it was “hopping”…..touching down, taking out a couple of dozen houses, then jumping a 1/4 mile before touching down again. Lots of “sand pits” in the area, and several mobile home parks. Several mobile homes were blown into one of the sandpits, and were floating around.

Happened to be online the night Greensburg got hit. The local NWS offices have real time “storm reports” where people and law enforcement agencies call in with observations, usually relayed by the main Sheriff’s department office. Lots of reports of a “wedge” tornado (meaning F5) SW of Greensburg, tracking northeast towards town.

Then…….nothing else came out of Greensburg. Reports didn’t start again, until the tornado tracked into the next county. Knew it must be bad, if it took out the main Sheriff’s office.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 20:25:50

“Andover F5″

So you are in Kansas, then? I’ve seen the video footage of that one — quite stupendous!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 15:24:59

Got caught up with family members who live in the St Louis area this morning. My sister’s family lives five miles from New Melle, MO, but their neighborhood was untouched.

Mom and Dad, in North St Louis County, were not quite so lucky — their block was unharmed, but their neighborhood was heavily damaged, with trees landing on houses located within 1/4 mile of their home.

All told, it is almost miraculous that nobody was killed in that storm; chalk it up to “wasteful government spending” on modern weather forecasting and early warning system technology.

Storm Flattens St. Louis Homes, Closes Airport
Uploaded by Associated Press on Apr 23, 2011

A severe storm that struck the St. Louis area left homes flattened in suburbs around the main airport, which remained closed Saturday a day after being hit by a tornado. (April 23)

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-04-23 15:57:48

I’m glad your parents were unharmed and their block was untouched.

There is a video on AOL showing the St. Louis Airport interior while the tornado struck. It shows a few people in the airport running for cover. Seemed to have happened only in the course of one minute.

In 1980 a tornado ripped the roof of the Fresno Air Terminal (yes Fresno California). I lived a mile away from there. Our block got pounded with hail the size of mini marshmellows. I remember after the cloudburst going outside to see the hail stones. The tornado at the FAT lifted someone’s row boat and carried it hundreds of feet.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 20:23:08

Twisters regularly hit CA; in fact, one touched down within a mile of where we used to live in Richmond, WHILE we lived there (late 90’s).

The primary differences are magnitude and frequency; you are much more likely to get hit in the Midwest than in CA, as tornadoes happen more often in Tornado Alley, and there are also much more frequent large tornadoes.

Interestingly, tornado risk and earthquake risk are someone converse to one another between CA and the Midwest. The largest earthquakes on record for the lower 48 states occurred in the early 1810s along the New Madrid fault, in Southern Missouri. The quakes are believed to have registered over 8.0 on the Richter scale, and caused the Mississippi River to flow backwards (an inland tsunami!). But quakes are far more rare in Missouri than in CA — especially large ones; this is opposite from the relative tornado risk. St. Louis had a particularly large tornado (F4) back in 1896, which devastated the Soulard Market area.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 15:34:33

This video gives a good perspective on how tornado damage can turn out in case of bad luck. Still, it’s remarkable that nobody was killed in this storm.

Nightline from ABC News: Storm Chasers: Tornado Flattens 60% of Mapleton, IA

Uploaded by ABCNews on Apr 11, 2011

Storm chasers helped save lives when tornadoes touched down in an Mapleton, Iowa.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 20:32:08

OK, by now you guys know I am obsessed with twisters…

Tornadoes Flatten Homes, Close Airport in St Louis
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A fierce storm carved a path of destruction late Friday, downing trees, destroying homes and scattering debris across the area. Twenty-four tornadoes were spotted in five states, including nine in St. Louis, which was hit the hardest.

Credit: Jeff Roberson/Associated Press

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-24 00:16:06

This may be some of the most amazing tornado footage ever caught on film. There are plenty of shots of tornadoes hitting buildings from a safe vantage point, but how many tornado videos have you ever seen taken from inside a building while the tornado was literally turning it into a wind tunnel? The footage is made all the more dramatic by the sight of security guards and travelers scurrying about to seek safe cover. It is truly miraculous that no serious injuries or deaths occurred in this direct hit on the St. Louis airport.

Video of Tornado Slamming Lambert Airport
Michael Calhoun
April 23, 2011 3:17 PM

These are security videos, provided by Lambert-St. Louis International Airport:

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 23:30:46

This story made it to the UK; and Maryland Heights, where numerous homes were destroyed, is less than two miles from where we used to own a home.

USA
Tornado destroys homes in Missouri

In the US, homes in the city of Maryland Heights, Missouri are left ravaged by a tornado.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 10:17:01

Published:
April 19, 2011
Benefits of inflation
Economics professor says lower prices can have a down side
By Cheryl Walker (’88) Office of Communications and External Relations
Sandeep Mazumder

Rising food and gas prices make consumers worry about inflation, but Assistant Professor of Economics Sandeep Mazumder says they should be more concerned about deflation. Mazumder, who studies macroeconomics, explains how low rates of inflation can actually give the U.S. economy a boost. He argues that traditional economic models of inflation predict little-to-no growth in the inflation rate for 2011-2013. He recently made a presentation at the Brookings Institution to economists examining inflation in the recent recession and making predictions for whether deflation is on the horizon. He received positive feedback on his work from Federal Reserve staff, International Monetary Fund economists, and Council of Economic Advisers members.

Q. Concerns about inflation seem to be growing. Is this fear justified? Can inflation be a good thing?

A. Increases in some prices, such as gas, do not mean the sky is falling. Since the 1990s, research shows that U.S. inflation has not been as responsive to oil shocks as it was in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. I think people fear rising gas prices are a sign of higher inflation mainly because gas prices are the only prices that are visibly and publicly displayed! Typically macroeconomists focus on “core” inflation rates, which excludes food and energy prices. This essentially gives us an idea of the long-term underlying trend of inflation, rather than transitory changes in inflation. Typically we think total (also called “headline”) inflation should converge to core inflation, and changes in things such as gas prices are often just temporary price changes and not necessarily reflective of the underlying trend.

Comment by SUGuy
2011-04-23 14:17:20

I would not put much faith in this research and the bs conclusions.

I guess I disagree with his premise.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 14:54:30

Ditto: Typical Fed sycophant macroeconomist drivel. I’d prefer an economist with an independent perspective over this bovine herd of religious adherents any day.

 
 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2011-04-23 13:51:49

I am noticing a bit of a greed factor going on in the trades. I have contacted a few contractors for parking lot paving, roof repairs or replacement and the heating guys. They all make their trade sound very difficult, time consuming and are quoting prices which are 2 to 3 times the normal middle of the road prices. What is up with that? I don’t see deflation in the trades yet.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-04-23 15:03:15

You have to shop around. The F-350 crowd wants to charge like its still bubbletime. Avoid them like the plague. There are plenty of sensible contractors who prefer to have business who will charge reasonable rates. The F-350 boyz prefer to have no gigs.

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-04-23 15:46:24

If you’re talking asphalt shingles when you say roofing, they and paving prices are up due to oil prices being up.

Local news just did a story yesterday on towns balking at the cost of road repair.

Comment by SUGuy
2011-04-23 18:46:11

We are considering EPDM flat roof for part of the building. The going rate is $2.00 a square ft give or take 10 percent in either direction. One fellow came up with a price of $4.50 and we are only going to roof about 7000 square ft. which is about half the building. Thank god it does not leak and we can get a few more years out of it. The paving contractor was at $15,800 for about half the parking lot. This guy does not have the crushers that chew the old asphalt into stones and then repave over it. I like Ruston paving as they are well known in town.

Installing an EPDM roof is not rocket science. Even a chick who is used to scrap booking can handle it. I might get some roofing insurance, hire people with experience, pay them about $35 per hour and do the job myself. I can get the material thru a friend in Ohio who is a third generation roofer.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 22:11:37

EPDM may not be rocket science but you might want to consider taking a look at an installation before trying it yourself. I think your application is for a flat roof so there’s a bit more to it. Taper boards, cant strips, curbs for equipment, scuppers, terminating the rubber into a parapet, etc. A Firestone roof is top shelf and it’s not something I’d want to do twice.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 22:16:09

PS-

New asphalt over existing is nothing more than a black paint job. *Find someone to mill the existing asphalt. Alternately, strip it with a wheel loader* and then prepare your subgrade. If you mill it, keep your vehicles far far away. Milling drives the asphalt into a fine mist that will land and harden on anything nearby.

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Comment by SUGuy
2011-04-24 07:44:11

Thanks RAL. I will consider your advice.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2011-04-23 15:27:13

LOL. Larry Kudlow just referred to Ben Bernanke as the ‘Bernank’ on his radio show. Does Larry do that on his cable show?

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-04-23 15:51:30

Few here watch that piece of trash.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-04-23 20:37:33

“…just referred to Ben Bernanke as the ‘Bernank’…”

Stupid is as stupid sez.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 22:17:25

Larry “I’m not a gay drug addict” Kudlow is a Fed Reserve sub-consultant propagandist.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 16:05:50

Home-selling tactics to beat the deadbeats
By Scott Van Voorhis • Bankrate.com

The robosigning controversy has led to a slowdown in foreclosures. The lull is likely to be temporary and sellers’ advantage from a drop in foreclosures potentially fleeting, with many markets still flooded with distressed properties, according to Katie Curnutte, a spokeswoman for Zillow.com. There might even be a boomerang effect later in the year after banks get back up to full speed again with auctions, she says.

For home sellers, here are some tips on how to seize the initiative during a rare (relative) lull in the foreclosure crisis.

Sell sooner rather than later

Get your story out

Do your homework

Price aggressively without undercutting foreclosures

The aim is to sell your home and maybe come away with a small gain. Forget about making a killing. Few homeowners who are current on their mortgage can match a foreclosure price.

But buyers are still looking for low prices. Take a look at what other nondistressed properties are selling for in your neighborhood and then price below them. And drive home the point that the price is the price — with foreclosures the bank can take a better offer right up to the day of the closing, Weintraub says.

Burst those foreclosure fantasies

Many buyers haven’t a clue about what it takes to buy a foreclosed home. In many cases, individual buyers don’t stand a chance as they end up competing with investors ready to pay cash, Kimmons says.

If a buyer or agent doesn’t know this, enlighten him or her. “There is a significant percentage of buyers (that) could not buy a foreclosure if they wanted to,” Kimmons says.

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/real-estate/home-selling-tactics-to-beat-the-deadbeats-1.aspx - 70k -

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-23 17:06:19

exeter

You will like this from the “Do your homework” part of this article. Is “if mentioned at all” the same as telling a lie?

The first report should be comparable homes sold in the last few months, with foreclosures broken out separately if mentioned at all, says Jim Kimmons, broker owner of Gallery Realty of Taos, N.M. The second should detail homes currently on the market. That will help you frame the decision on favorable terms: Buyers should consider homes like yours instead of foreclosures.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-04-23 22:20:39

Failure to disclose is a Lying Realtor favorite it seems.

Any shacks on your radar? Anything I’m interested in is sitting empty without 4Sayle signs except for one home debtor occupied dump.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-04-24 04:31:45

Same here. Only many home debtor occupied dumps. Oh well. Happy Easter.

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Comment by jbunniii
2011-04-24 12:10:24

What the hell does “get your story out” mean?

 
 
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