No Longer A Given Or Even A Goal
The Daily Times reports from Delaware. “At the Wood Creek Golf Community, rumors swirl that the 18-hole course won’t get cut this spring. The club house is functional, but partly: Kitchen equipment was sold at auction. Now, news has spread that the principal at PCS Homes that built Wood Creek filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in November 2010 on behalf of seven affiliated businesses. New construction stalled halfway through development of the 410-lot subdivision. That’s a problem because a buyer’s agreement requires a 75 percent build-out, or the sale of 300 homes, before control of the association can transfer from the builder to homeowners, said homeowner Lloyd Unsell.”
“On a recent tour, Unsell pointed to some retention ponds that have either dried up or are drying. Residents were notified recently to not expect golf course grass to be cut this summer, he also said. ‘The golf course closed today. The pond on the golf course is down 4 feet,’ Unsell said. ‘Another pond is down 6 feet, and the pond on the 5th and 6th holes is bone dry. The fish have died out.’”
The Baltimore Sun in Maryland. “The all-important spring selling season for homes is proving more bust than boom this year in the Baltimore area — and not just compared with last year, when an $8,000 federal incentive got buyers to the table. The 2,000 homes sold last month in the metro area represent the second-slowest April sales since Metropolitan Regional Information Systems began tracking the market through its multiple-listing service in the late 1990s.”
“The average sale price in the area — Baltimore and its surrounding counties — dropped nearly 4 percent compared with the year-ago period. That brought the average down to about $255,000, $55,000 less than the peak four years earlier. More than 140,000 Maryland borrowers were behind on their mortgage payments at the end of last year, so the number of homes that could yet appear on the market as foreclosures is substantial.”
“John Burns Real Estate Consulting estimates the ’shadow inventory’ of homes that will likely go up for sale as foreclosures at 14 months of supply in the Baltimore metro area.”
The Progress Index in Virginia. “Pressured by foreclosures and other lingering mortgage problems, sale prices for homes in the Tri-Cities tumbled in the first three months of this year, according to new figures from the Southside Virginia Association of Realtors. Prices were down sharply, and for at least the ninth consecutive quarter were below the level of the same period a year before. For the region outside Chesterfield, the average price of a house sold in the first quarter was $114,108, down 15.7 percent from $135,454 in the last quarter of 2010 and down 12.7 percent from $130,751 in the first quarter of last year.”
“‘A substantial share of all sales in the first quarter of 2011 was foreclosures, and the persistent inventory of foreclosures and short sales continues to put downward pressure on prices,’ researchers at George Mason University’s Center for Regional Analysis wrote in a report for the Realtors’ association. ‘The rise in the number of very low-priced homes suggests that the foreclosure and short-sale inventory is still relatively large and could take many months to clear out,’ the GMU analysts wrote. ‘Brisk sales activity will help to remove these properties from the inventory. However, processing delays at the banks and uncertain government regulatory activity could delay this drawdown.’”
The Roanoke Times in Virginia. “A Blacksburg condominium project delayed for the past four years will remain on hold until economic conditions improve, a project representative said. When the project was announced, The Colosseum was described as a six-story, $60 million sports condominium hotel with luxury features such as doormen, underground parking, a spa, ballroom and restaurant. The units were originally to be priced between $170,000 and $800,000 and expected to interest well-off Virginia Tech sports fans who visit Blacksburg frequently enough to justify owning a place to stay.”
“But in spite of setting up a sales office and Web site, the development team has not broken ground except for a road. The town has not received building plans, either. Mark Kinser, a Radford builder and member of the development team called the lack of visible progress at the 5-acre site ‘nothing more than a reflection of the current banking crisis.’”
The Virginian Pilot. “The region’s largest homebuilder has purchased a 133-acre site on Princess Anne Road where a troubled developer once planned a massive mixed-use project. But the Virginia Beach-based developer stumbled badly in the housing bust. With projects from Maryland to Florida, it fell behind on land and development loans, eventually losing some to foreclosure.”
“The Dragas Cos. paid $20.5 million for the Renaissance Park site. Dragas, which specializes in less expensive condominium homes, doesn’t have firm plans for the site yet and is doing market research, said Sally Horvath, a spokeswoman for Dragas.”
The Star Exponent in Virginia. “The town of Culpeper’s west side experienced tremendous residential growth in the past decade, gaining thousands of new houses along Sperryville Pike in an area that used to be farm fields. The growth occurred swiftly and dramatically and so did the decline with dozens if not hundreds of families on the town’s west side losing their homes to foreclosure, a trend that continues.”
“Originally a homebuilder, Mike Corbin said he hasn’t built any of those in seven or eight years. He deals mainly in property management now, having purchased numerous foreclosed homes in Culpeper at a discount and converting them to rental properties. Corbin said another round of local foreclosures loom.”
“‘There are a lot of empty homes out there that the bank doesn’t know it is getting back,’ he said. That’s how big the backlog of bad loans is, according to Corbin.”
Go Dan River in Virginia. “Home sales in the Southside region increased 4.5 percent from the 2010 first quarter to the 2011 first quarter, according to a Virginia Association of Realtors report. The median sales price for Southside home sales declined 10.6 percent from $82,488 to $73,750 from quarter to quarter. Southside has the lowest median sales price in Virginia, compared to a high of $280,000 in Northern Virginia, according to the report.”
“‘I really think that there is just a little bit of recovery here. We have a lot of homes on the market and our prices are holding,’ said Roger Freeze, president of the Dan River Region Association of Realtors. ‘With the lower prices, I think that it’s a good market to buy in. We should really be selling a lot more.’”
The Star News Online in North Carolina. “If you have a desire to live on the ocean, Intracoastal Waterway or river – and if you’ve got the cash – the old Realtor saying of ‘it’s never been a better time to buy a home’ could be true. Buyers may find their waterfront dream home costs 40 percent to 50 percent less than it did in the unrealistic boom times of 2005 and 2006.”
“Sometimes even less, said Margaret Rudd Bishop, who owns Margaret Rudd & Associates in Oak Island and Southport. For example, she has an oceanfront house in Oak Island priced at $349,900. You would have paid that for the lot a few years ago, she said. How about a house on the Cape Fear River in Southport that once cost more than $1 million and now is priced at $350,000 in a short sale? True, Bishop said.”
The Post & Courier in South Carolina. “April home sales in the Charleston region were slightly lower than the same month a year ago, a period when a popular temporary federal tax subsidy was still available to buyers. Values continued to slip, mainly because of an oversupply of foreclosures on the market.”
“Prices continued to be pulled down by the glut of repossessed homes, which lenders typically mark down when they try to sell them. ‘Once we work through the surplus of distressed property, prices will slowly recover. It’s not going to happen overnight, but it will happen eventually,’ said Charleston Trident Association of Realtors President Rob Woodul.”
“Ravenswood Plantation on Johns Island once offered views of freshly mowed grass as far as the eye could see. Now trees and shrubs are popping up here and there, signs of trouble and change. Gone is the daily sight of workers loading sod into trucks. The rolling irrigation sprinklers that resemble giant crawling insects sit idle. Several fields are sprouting corn instead of centipede and St. Augustine grass. The office is shuttered and the phone is disconnected.”
“When the housing market tanked, so did sod sales. The grass is not yet greener on the back side of the recession.”
“Dannie Barteet is still selling sod from time to time, but nothing like he was when home sales and construction were on a roll. ‘When sales started declining, it was a tough pill to swallow,’ Barteet said. “I didn’t stick around. I like to eat.’”
“Super-Sod is the leading division of Lakeland, Ga.-based Patten Seed Co., a family-run business for more than a century. With 18,000 acres in sod, the company is one of the largest turf operations in the world, according to CEO Jim Roquemore. Super-Sod has sales and locations in the Southeast from northern Florida to Virginia. ‘I don’t see the real volume picking up for at least three years, and I never see it coming back to the big boom.’”
“Barteet said his eyes reveal the state of the economy. ‘I can judge it by seeing the number of sod trucks on the road. When things were crazy, you couldn’t count the sod trucks on I-26 between Charleston and Columbia.’”
“The portion of South Carolinians who own the homes they live in was lower in 2010 than a decade earlier, as the housing meltdown took its toll. ‘Homeownership was the big drive, and that’s maybe no longer a given or even a goal,’ said Mike MacFarlane of the state Office of Research and Statistics. ‘This is one of the indicators about what’s going on.’”
“‘If you look at the numbers, there was probably some considerable overbuilding,’ said Philip Ford, executive VP of the Charleston Trident Homebuilders Association. ‘We built a lot of houses, especially in that peak time frame. It’s hard to know when to quit building.’”
“Lynn Carmody, former head of the Charleston Trident Association of Realtors, was surprised to learn the census found higher rates of rental vacancies than a decade ago. ‘Our rental market is strong right now,’ she said. ‘I feel like there’s a strong surge of renters out there due to foreclosures, short sales, and people walking away from homes where they are upside-down on their mortgages.’”
“Carmody suggested the rental numbers could be inflated by people trying to rent houses they are unable to sell. Ford agreed, and noted that some condos have also been converted to rental properties. ‘I know that on my street there were several houses people couldn’t sell, so they ended up renting them,’ Ford said.”
From Bloomberg this morning, it’s a great read:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-11/home-sellers-become-u-s-lenders-of-last-resort-for-credit-damaged-buyers.html
Hard to know where to begin and so easy to take lots of cheap shots, so I’ll content myself with just one:
“This is the American dream, and we’re going for it no matter what,” said Sue Reed, 56, who sells snacks from a trailer at estate auctions and going-out-of-business sales. “We’ll either make it or it will break us.”
Sue, Sue, Sue. Two foreclosures and a BK might be telling you that “going for it no matter what” could possibly not be the optimal strategy.
But that’s just me.
A somewhat twist. I like cutting the banks out of the deal.
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Michael Fazio, broker and owner of American Real Estate Services in Roseville, Michigan, said he’s helping one couple with a combined annual income of $100,000. They owe $450,000 on a four-bedroom house in a Detroit suburb that is now valued at $250,000. They plan to walk away from the mortgage if they find a home to buy with a land contract, he said.
‘Q: I have a real estate/bankruptcy question for you. I purchased a beach property in North Carolina with a friend a couple of years back. We put down 10 percent and financed the rest. We thought we could sell the property quickly, but we were wrong. The co-owners have been having financial problems and stopped paying their share of the mortgage, taxes and insurance about two years ago.’
‘We are able to rent the property during the high season and periodically during the off-season and cover about 60 percent of the expenses, but we lose money on the whole. Our property is about 20 percent under water.’
‘Although I’m able to continue covering the monthly expenses, I’m stretched pretty thin. If the rental income doesn’t continue at the same level (or if anything breaks), I might not be able to cover the payments. I recently received notice that the co-owners have filed for bankruptcy. Should I consider a short sale, loan modification, bankruptcy, a deed-in-lieu or even bankruptcy?’
‘A: You have an interesting question in that the property isn’t your primary residence but rather an investment property. Let’s go over the issues you face.’
Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Ilyce-Glink-Beach-property-purchase-with-friend-1369439.php#ixzz1M3A0ysW1
A: Do NOT walk away from that property. RUN AWAY FROM IT, and run away now.
Learn from this mistake and NEVER make the same one again.
There, fixed.
Two things:
1. Find a real estate/bankruptcy lawyer - TODAY.
2. See #1
It is shocking to me that the answer didn’t even MENTION the possibility of jinglemail or discuss whether NC was a recourse state or not. I guess they’ve decided that they can’t even bring it up or the sheeple might get ideas. Investment or not, If you’re far enough underwater that you have a significatn negative net worth, it’s probably worth forclosure and bankruptcy.
Recourse shmeecourse. The property is neither owners’ primary residence. They’re on the hook unless it’s discharged in BK.
BWHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Delmar in Sussex County Delaware….. The epicenter of massive over construction of new housing in the mid-atlantic. “Everybody is moving down here because prices are cheap” declares _____.
Prices are still massively misaligned with wages and salaries there. I made many friends working down there and none of them can afford a modest 3/2 ranch.
‘Once we work through the surplus of distressed property, prices will slowly recover”
But they just keep a’comin.
Once I lose 30 pounds and get back to the gym, women will be lined up around the block for me…how likely is that? Did I mention I’m married and just don’t care?
I’m entertained by the number of golf course communities, seaside buildings with boat slips, college campus luxury condos, and similar developments that were planned or built during the bubble. We thought, apparently, that we were forever going to be a wealthy people with time to devote to expensive and energy-intensive leisure pursuits.
Old-timers here know that the naming of buildings, projects, and the like is a pet peeve of mine. The usual irritant is naming a cookie-cutter subdivision of particle-board houses after Tuscany or some other bucolic European location, or after the plant or animal species eradicated to build the houses. But just as head-shaking are the references to collapsed civilizations: ICON in Miami, featuring columns shaped like Easter Island moai, comes to mind. Even if “The Colosseum” gets built, the destiny of a luxury condo building in Blackburg, Va. with a spa and doormen should be obvious.
I’m entertained by the number of golf course communities, seaside buildings with boat slips, college campus luxury condos, and similar developments that were planned or built during the bubble. We thought, apparently, that we were forever going to be a wealthy people with time to devote to expensive and energy-intensive leisure pursuits.
Here in Tucson, three luxury student apartment complexes are being planned near and in Downtown. I guess the idea is that the kids will be within easy barfing distance of their cribs after they enjoy themselves in our entertainment district.
I can’t help thinking that the developers are vastly overestimating the number of kids who can afford such places. After all, the University of Arizona just raised tuition by something like 22%. And the option of starting out at community college while living at home, then transferring to a university for the last two years is growing ever more popular.
There’s also the demographic factor: The peak of the baby boomer generation’s offspring is entering college now. After that piggie goes through the python, there won’t be so many college-aged kids.
You can blame the Secret for a generation of ass-perational homebuyers. The devil was laughing himself to death over the megachurches of “prosperity gospel.”
And let me tell you, those are popular churches. All three of my siblings were snagged by the silver tongued, rolex wearing, Armani clad pastors that run those churches. And they faithfully turned over 10% of their income to said “pastors”.
Fortunately they wise up and moved on.
I feel grateful for having been raised in a church where you weren’t supposed to covet the riches of the world. You were supposed to help others, especially the less fortunate.
‘The golf course closed today. The pond on the golf course is down 4 feet,’ Unsell said. ‘Another pond is down 6 feet, and the pond on the 5th and 6th holes is bone dry. The fish have died out.’”
…….and no one is feeding the squirrels.
Although this thread is about the sad state of the mid-Atlantic real estate market, notice there’s no news from the immediate D.C. area.
It’s different there.
I saw a short report that prices are down in DC. But the reports for DC are rarely easy to find, or if there, aren’t very complete. When I visited DC last summer I was surprised by two things; it’s a really small area, and there were foreclosures all over the place.
Spin it positive: A defunct fancy golf course is a regular-a** park!
My parents finally sold their place after two years on the market in the DC area. It’s in one of the best school districts and wasn’t unreasonably priced compared to what had sold during the bubble.. yet it still took years with only a very few offers.
So it’s not all rainbows and puppy dogs for everyone there.
Such a target-rich environment today, ladies and gentlemen.
Feast your eyes on this NYT piece. A flight attendent buys a $700,000 house, courtesy of the taxpayer of course.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/business/11housing.html?hp
How will this stroy end…?
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Even those who bought ahead of the changes, scheduled to take effect Sept. 30, worry about the effect on values. Greg Peterson recently purchased a house in Monterey for $700,000. “That doesn’t get you a palace,” said Mr. Peterson, a flight attendant.
He qualified for government insurance, which meant he needed only a small down payment. If that option is not available in the future, he said, “home prices all around me will plummet.”
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Heidi Daunt, with Treehouse Mortgage, said loans too large for a government guarantee currently carried interest rates of at least 6 percent, more than a point higher than government-backed loans.
“That can definitely blow a lot of people out of the water,” Ms. Daunt said.
Man, this post has it all.
In it, we’ve met hapless homeowner Lloyd Unsell. And then there’s Roger Freeze, president of the Dan River Region Association of Realtors.
But, as the infomercials say, that’s not all. We also get introduced to Treehouse Mortgage.
You can’t make this stuff up.
700K. at 2.5 time income, that flight attendant _should_ be making 280K.
700K @ 5% interest is $3750 per month P&I. Add property tax and insurace and I’ll bet thats $4500 a month.
Don’t forget the place needs fixing, painting etc sometimes…
The story about the land purchase in Virginia Beach is interesting, they paid pretty close to what it was bought for in 2007. New company plans condoze.
I’ve since figured out that all of the new expensive apartments that have been built are often just navy housing. Two people split the rent with their housing allowance on 2 bedroom places. So our prices are pretty much driven up by the .mil folks.
14 months of supply in the Baltimore metro area
…based on a rate of sales from, when?
And the more I read, the more uncomfortable I become with any house with a restrictive HOA, or builder management, or anything of the kind. A friend of mine bought a new McOkay home in one of the outer outer burbs (past Frederick), and last week they stuck a nastygram on his door for “failure to mow lawn.” Never mind that nobody could mow because it rained for a month straight.
I want to deal with a nosy landlord, I’ll rent. Or better yet, I’ll rent until everybody’s house value drops so much that no one is concerned about their house value anymore.
“No Longer A Given Or Even A Goal”
Question of the day: How many HBB readers / posters would have considered buying a home if they had reached affordable levels by, say, 2008 (a couple of years after the correction began) but by now feel like they have lost the appetite for ever buying a home?
I personally begin to doubt my interest will ever again converge with an opportunity where the prices are right to buy in a location that works for us.