May 27, 2011

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 04:16:44

Realtors Are Liars

Comment by Al
2011-05-27 05:09:00

This post reminds me of SNL “Daily Affirmations” with Stuart Smalley. :)

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 05:15:27

and that’s…okay

Comment by JMS
2011-05-27 05:42:36

I’m good enough….

I’m smart it enough…

And gosh darnit I will sell houses…

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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-05-27 16:50:12

I will sell this house today. I will sell this house today…

 
 
 
 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-05-27 10:23:45

Realtor walks in to a bar ………

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 10:27:14

and begins babbling nonsense immediately.

Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 11:22:20

This is too easy.

Realtors are labiers.

I posted yesterday’s response to jeff saturday too late.

Realtors are spyers.

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Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2011-05-27 12:16:55

How the heck are you lady?

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 12:31:19

Hey, SF!
Just in time for Memorial Day, I’m so glad to see you posting again — I’ve been kinda worried about you. Hope this goes through; my posts are ahem, disappearing today….

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 13:15:48

labiers?

How are you SFBAGal? Haven’t seen ya around in a while.

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 14:27:15

Two levels removed from a pun, alpha. Sometimes my wretch exceeds my gasp.

If v allows this (ahem, SIXTH) post to go through without deleting or removing it— Hey, SFBAG! Great to see you here again. I’ve thought of you often over the last year– even been a bit concerned for your well-being. Hope all is better now. I’ll fill you in when I’m not being subjected to this editorial silliness.

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2011-05-27 18:23:26

Your posting came through. Thank you for the concern ahansen. I’ve been just fine. Haven’t felt like posting until these last few weeks.

I’ve found out grief is definitely not a straight line. It can come in waves. Sometime gentle waves, sometime crashing over your head waves.

I love see the regulars posting. Woohoo!

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2011-05-27 18:24:46

Hi alpha-sloth,

I am okay. Thank you for asking.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-05-27 04:48:37

July 1st is the start of the new fiscal year in NY. I thought this was the year we were going to see real changes due to the end of the 2 year federal stimulus injection but except for the poorer districts haven’t seen much change locally. I was pretty surprised about this. Does this mean the borrowing merely continues? Or that announcements have not been made yet?

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:17:30

No, it means you’re full of it.

Comment by Jojo
2011-05-27 10:29:41

V is not the sharpest crayon in the box.

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 11:09:45

Yes, Jojo, I actually am. Like I said earlier, I think you might be living mostly in your own head.

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Comment by Muggy
2011-05-27 06:28:41

That really depends on how much the district got, and what they spent it on. For example, if they bought a bunch of SmartBoards instead of hiring more teachers and/or specialists, there’s not much to report.

V, chill out.

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:36:35

I’m as chill as it gets, Muggy. I’m so chill it hurts. CarrieAnne, however, is still full of it.

Comment by CrackerBob
2011-05-27 08:03:44

Hey Carrie Anne, what’s your game now, can anybody play?

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-05-27 07:31:06

So I’m taking she jumped in again. LOL Ya gotta wonder with all the other people on this board who post they don’t see that much of a downward move yet in prices what is it really that made her zero in on me?

And why when I say I know it’s still coming is that not enough? Another blog put out parameters for what they considered a troll. It was someone who had to control the conversation. Someone who posts often and with an arguing demeanor. I don’t think that’s the profile of my posts. However, I’ve started to wonder if V is related to some of the interests in this area that really don’t like attention coming this way.

Comment by Michael Viking
2011-05-27 09:28:42

Comment by Big V
2011-04-26 14:23:10

I was born in Las Vegas. You have no idea what it’s like to be a fetus in Vegas. No idea.

As time passes, I get more and more of an idea of what it must have been like.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:01:01

HAR!

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-05-27 09:55:36

I guess I am not following all of this. IMHO, the only regular poster who recently morphed into a troll was NYCityBoy. He used to be funny and legit, and all of the sudden he became a wack combination of a Rand Paul fan and bankster.

Very odd.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-05-27 10:06:14

…NYCityBoy. He used to be funny and legit, and all of the sudden he became a wack combination of a Rand Paul fan and bankster.

He stopped posting after the Wisconsin thing. Joey stopped posting after the 2010 elections.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 13:19:38

He stopped posting after the Wisconsin thing. Joey stopped posting after the 2010 elections.

Imagine that.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 13:37:05

“he became a wack combination of a Rand Paul fan and bankster.”

He became a rage-aholic. He needs to face it, trace it, and erase it. :wink:

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 13:49:37

HBB coping mechanism from someone who’s been hangin’ out here for a little more than five years:

Don’t get mad at your fellow HBB-ers. Ever. Even the ones you don’t agree with.

If this analogy helps, imagine that, someday, you’re going to meet people face to face. And everyone will welcome you to the group. Heck, we may even raise a glass to toast your entrance.

In short, think toasts, not tantrums. Makes this place a whole lot more fun.

 
Comment by SaladSD
2011-05-27 16:10:58
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 17:04:20

Hold on- trace it, face it, and erase it. Or something like that.

I’m not a professional counselor, and that’s okay. I’m good enough, I’m smart enough…and doggone it…

 
 
Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 09:59:15

No, that’s not what a troll is. It’s someone who pretends to be part of the conversation, when they are really just trying to hijack the server to push their own agenda.

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Comment by Muggy
2011-05-27 10:16:16

So are you saying she’s a Realtroll for Central New York? I’m serious, I’m trying to wrap my head around this…

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-05-27 10:28:14

Definition of troll -

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

 
 
Comment by Jojo
2011-05-27 10:33:18

Don’t worry about V, the big in her name refers to her Body Mass Index, not IQ. Although coincidentally both are around 50.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 11:11:50

Jojo:

Are you seriously that stupid? I think my body mass index is like 19, and my IQ is 126, as I have already famously explained right here on this very blog.

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 11:43:10

“…what is it really that made her zero in on me?”

Your posts are articulate and relevant, and demonstrate a sophisticated intellect. Also you are female and apparently financially solvent– which apparently triggers a tic response from our otherwise thoughtful moderator.

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Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 12:18:00

V.
You can remove my posts all you like, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are undercutting your own credibility when you let your tics get in the way of your otherwise thoughtful commentary.

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Comment by 2banana
2011-05-27 08:29:21

Here is a hint.

All that obama “stimulus” money that was supposed to go to “shovel ready projects”

It actually went to prop up city/county/state public unions.

Nearly all the stimulus money was sucked into insane pay/benefits/pensions and to keep layoff to a minimum.

Cause those are good democrat supporters and the union dues money gets “recycled” into dem candidates.

Besides - a public union worker that might have to actually pay for his/her health care or pension might actually care about the issues (and maybe even not vote democrat).

Keep them on the plantation!

Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 09:34:02

How is THAT Hope and Change working out for you now kidz?

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-05-27 09:51:57

How is THAT Hope and Change working out for you now kidz?

OK eu penso mas aquela não é muito original.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 13:26:10

Banana’s lying again.

ARRA funded projects, better known as stimulus shovel ready projects are going on *everywhere*. I’m on one myself and all the guys I work with are on ARRA projects. How do I know this? Because we all must comply with Buy American requirements as a part of the ARRA funding and have meetings to discuss compliance issues.

Banana….. if you’re going to post non-housing related topics, get your facts straight. This doozy is no less false that your reinvention of the 4 laws of thermodynamics the other day.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-05-27 13:51:53

Money is fungible, 2banana.

Don’t forget that the Medicare that comes out of my paycheck pays for ExxonMobil’s tax breaks, and that I pay taxes for Social Security so that GE doesn’t have to pay taxes at all.

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 12:54:16

CarrieAnn:

I posted this response once before, but about twenty minutes later it “magically” disappeared from the blog. I will continue to post it until our moderator has the intellectual integrity to let it stand– or until Ben intervenes and returns the board to civility.

“…what is it really that made her zero in on me?”

Your posts are articulate and relevant, and demonstrate a refined intellectual sophistication that some find threatening. This and the fact that you are female and apparently financially solvent seems to trigger a tic in our moderator’s otherwise thoughtful commentary. Alas, this sort of childish behavior degrades the caliber of the conversation and dishonors Ben’s years of hard work on all our behalf.

Please don’t succumb to it as have other valued members of the board. (Joey, Alad, NoSingleOne, among them.) I, for one, appreciate your insights — as I’m certain do many others.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 19:32:53

Okay, now I’m confused. Who’s the moderator?

 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-05-27 04:58:38

Goooood Morning all you low life renters out there and welcome to WHBB where it`s a beauuuutiful day in West Palm Beach. It`s gonna be a hot one so why don`t you grab that For Sale sign and bring it along for shade. This is cousin Jethro spinnin the hits and this one is from Tony I`m being foreclosed on in Orlando and Dawn and it`s goin` out to all those victims who have been livin rent freeeee for years.

Here`s Tie A Yellow Ribbon

I’ve lost my home, I’ve had my time
Now I’ve got to know what is and isn’t mine
If you received my letter telin’ you I’ve lived for free
Then you’ll know just what to do if you still want me
If you still want me

Send a mortgage cram-down to my wife and me
It’s been three long years
That I’ve lived for free
If I don’t get a mortgage cram-down for my wife and me
I’ll load up the bus
Forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don’t get a mortgage cram-down for my wife and me

Hey lawyer, please look for me
‘Cause I couldn’t bear to see what I might see
I’m really in foreclosure, and my bank she holds the key
A simple mortgage cram downs` what I need to set me free
I wrote and told them please:

Send a mortgage cram down to my wife and me
It’s been three long years
That I’ve lived for free
If I don’t get a mortgage cram-down for my wife and me
I’ll load up the bus
Forget about us
Put the blame on me
If I don’t get a mortgage cram-down for my wife and me

Now the whole damn block is cheering
And I can’t believe I see
A big eviction notice hangin ’round the old oak tree

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 05:34:59

lmao… Cousin Jethro!!!

 
Comment by Kim
2011-05-27 06:38:31

Ha! That was awesome.

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 11:45:34

LMAO.

You’ve outdone yourself, son.

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2011-05-27 12:29:29

I bow to you.

Thank you for the laugh.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 05:19:38

O.C. home values fall $5.4 billion
May 25th, 2011, by Jon Lansner

Orange County home values have fallen a collective $5.4 billion in six months, according to a study by CoreLogic done for the Real Estate Research Council of Southern California.

This math shows that all Orange County homes were worth of total $386.9 billion in the first quarter — down $1.8 billion (0.5%) from 2010′s final quarter after falling $3.6 billion (0.9%) between the fourth and third quarters of last year. CoreLogic compiles this estimated value of by tracking every residential property vs. other indexes that are based on what homes sold in a particular period. This recent drop in value is not totally surprising considering that many other barometers have shows real estate sluggishness since last summer. And one likely culprit for the price weakness is the end of tax incentives offered to house shoppers through June 30 of last year.

Orange County’s recent price drop is slightly worse than the rest of Southern California. The combined values of homes in the 6 other SoCal counties tracked by CoreLogic was $1.537 trillion in the first quarter — down $18 billion (or 1.16%) compared to the third quarter of 2010. Only Riverside County’s collective home value rose in this six-month period among SoCal’s 7 counties. In that same period, Orange County homes fell $5.4 billion or 1.37%.

Orange County’s recent value drop essentially wiped out a year of value gains that started in the fourth quarter of 2009.
Posted in: Home prices • corelogic • Real Estate Research Council of Southern California

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 07:37:18

“Orange County home values have fallen a collective $5.4 billion in six months”

Someone won’t be renewing their Disneyland annual passes this summer!

Comment by measton
2011-05-27 07:41:57

LOL

My guess is they will find they are happier without the Disneyland pass. That place gives me an ulcer.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 08:33:46

Disney sells a cool million annual passes every year (ever wonder why its always crowded?) , mostly to OC residents. They even sell them with an installment payment plan.

I read somewhere that on an average day half of the people in Disneyland are are annual passholders,

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Comment by MrBubble
2011-05-27 09:16:42

My brother went to the one in LA with his wife for their anniversary and now go with their three girls. The only way I would ever go there is with a ginormous bag of mushrooms and I don’t even eat mushrooms (anymore). Read “The Sale of Two Cities: A Semiotic Comparison of Disneyland with Marriott’s Great America”. Oh wait, that’s not the one I’m thinking of. Anyway, it’s all about getting you to spend more money. That’s it. And that’s not how we roll at Chez Bubble.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 09:42:52

” it’s all about getting you to spend more money”

Its worse in Orlando. Disneyworld is designed to keep you “on property” so they can siphon off every buck from you for lodging, meals, etc. It’s designed so you will spend at least a week there. There’s a reason why a Disneyworld vacation costs a king’s ransom. What amazes me is that they can find so many people to fill the thousands of pricey hotel rooms the have on the Orlando campus.

Anaheim is geared more towards the locals.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-05-27 10:35:53

I have friends in the Midwest who take their kids EVERY year to DisneyWorld (they always announce their pending trips on Facebook).

While I could see doing it once when the kids are 5-7ish and maaaaaybe again at 10-11ish before they go nuts as teens and want nothing to do with you, the judgmental elitist in me can’t think of a worse way to spend every year’s vacation. Take ‘em paddling or camping (even if it’s ‘car camping’). Get out and see the real world (or at least the country) instead of the faux one.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 10:51:26

Some people like Disney, others don’t. Enough of them do so that Disney makes a lot of money with their theme parks and hotels. A lot.

And the stereotype that it’s just families with small kids who go there is way off. Orlando in particular caters to the “child free” set. They have night clubs and even a permanent Cirque di Soleil show on their property.

In Anaheim you’ll see plenty of teens and child free young go through the turnstiles.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-05-27 11:18:53

I hear ya. And I recognize that we all need to entertain ourselves. I just couldn’t do it EVERY year like my friends, in their case with kids, do.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 08:58:15

My guess is they will find they are happier without the Disneyland pass. That place gives me an ulcer.

Back in the 1990s, I went to several of the bicycle industry’s annual Interbike trade shows. Including at least two that were in Anaheim.

Never once did I trek up the street to Disneyland. And I wasn’t the only one who felt that way about Mickey’s Magical Place. It seemed as though the Disneyland-goers were in the minority of Interbike-goers.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:03:37

I love Disneyland. You can not be grumpy while at Disneyland, although some have tried.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:06:35

The only thing I hated about it was getting stuck at that horrid Denny’s on the way home. I hate that Denny’s. Come to think of it, I should have stolen their mustard.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 10:53:45

There are better places to eat there now. Around the corner on Katella there are several restuarants in the Anaheim Gardenwalk mall.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-05-27 11:52:34

“You can not be grumpy while at Disneyland”

The way that you’ve written it, you either can or can not be…
Sing “It’s A Small World” all day and get back to me! :)

Oh no, I did it to myself!!

 
 
 
Comment by Kim
2011-05-27 09:17:48

Speaking of annual passes… Six Flags is offering annual passes for about the cost of two visits. Seems cheap. DD got a free pass for a reading program, so I’ll take her. But once is more than enough for me (I do love Disney, however).

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 09:46:03

My understanding is that a six flags annual pass is good at any six flags park.

I used to like Disneyland, until they changed the business model to keep it crammed year round with wall to wall people (thanks to the annual pass program).

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-05-27 18:42:18

“O.C. home values fall $5.4 billion”

‘Tis a mere flesh wound!

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-28 00:12:49

Orange County, CA., real estate is “worth” over a third of a TRILLION dollars?!

No wonder our nation is on the eve of destruction. Yikes.

 
 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 05:20:53

Visualize Economic Collapse

Comment by combotechie
2011-05-27 05:26:59

Visualizse a once-in-a-lifetime buying opportunity.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-05-27 05:38:25

Visualize the mirage of a once-in-a-lifetime buying opportunity held indefinitely out of reach by extend-and-pretend.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 05:57:21

While your buying power for essentials is eaten away by QE after QE induced inflation.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-05-27 06:18:32

Bingo. And now I will go, lick my wounds, and engage in a series of events meant to experience denial.

Have a good weekend everyone.

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Comment by oxide
2011-05-27 06:53:53

Opportunity to buy for, when? When the economic collapse turns around? Not if we’re in a permanent downtown, as Doug in Boone NC says. We’ve been slowly equilizing with Mexico and Paraguay since the mid-70’s. Our upturns were just credit-fueled dead cat bounces.

1980s: Reagan’s defense explosion (put on credit card, not paid back; outsourcing begins)
1990s: Clinton’s internet explosion (quickly outsourced, along with a lot of other career jobs)
2000s: Bush’s housing explosion (put on credit card, not paid back; insourcing explodes too)
2010s: :?:

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 07:01:29

Some of today’s buying opportunities do not require an upturn to still be an awesome deal. As a matter of fact, they could sustain even more of a downturn and still be smoking hot.

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Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 07:33:39

2010s: America’s new Gilded Age

The 1%ers (Tony Hayward, “I just want my life back”) party on like 2007-2009 never happened.

50 million sons (and daughters) of Aztlan come to El Norte to make better lives for selves and hard workers and put food on their families.

The shrinking middle class bled to death in both directions, by decades end U6 un/underemployment at 35%, of those still working only 15% earning more than $500 per week.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 07:50:10

To give some credit to Obama, deportations have increased under his watch. I think he could still do a lot better though.

From what I’m reading in the Mexican media, the word is out that there are no jobs in “EL Norte” and that many states are yanking away the welcome mat for illegals, making it harder for them to collect welfare. Plus other states have anti illegals bills on their ballots (a la Arizona).

Of course the Mexican media whines that the Gringos are being mean and racist.

All I can say is: “No hay empleos, asi que no tiene caso que vengan”

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 09:26:09

To give some credit to Obama, deportations have increased under his watch. I think he could still do a lot better though.

A year ago, on April 15, there was a big raid that busted human traffickers. There were arrests made in Tucson and in other cities on both sides of the border.

At the site of the Tucson arrests, which happened in our South Side neighborhoods, a woman was heard to say, “How could Obama allow this to happen?”

Her question didn’t get a lot of sympathetic answers among the commentariat posting replies to stories in our local fishwrap. Matter of fact, quite a few of the comment brigade asked some not-so-nice questions about her immigration status.

As for the local reaction to these raids? For the most part, it was of the “It’s about bleeping time!” variety.

 
Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:09:51

They put FOOD on their families? Now that was rude.

 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 10:33:26

Just google “put food on your family” to see in context, V.

 
Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:47:56

Oh, a Bushism, I see. Thank you.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-05-27 05:33:16

“Visualize Economic Collapse”

I am seeing Detroit.

Comment by Al
2011-05-27 11:40:29

Watch economic collapse.

 
 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-05-27 05:24:23

I put through a post I don’t know if it will survive the filters.

It appears the NAR is urging its membership to write Congress and tell them to vote No on requiring 20% downpayments. My realtor had referred to a meeting where they were told sales would collapse if new regulations governing Qualified Residential Mortgages (QRM) took place because people had already spent the money.

We should probably write Congress and tell them it’s what the system needs.

Comment by oxide
2011-05-27 07:00:08

http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/03232011_risk_retention_qrm.asp

“QRMs are home loans that will be exempt from the requirement that mortgage lenders retain a 5 percent share of each loan they originate that is packaged for securitization - keeping so-called “skin in the game.” Dodd-Frank specifically identified loans guaranteed or originated by FHA, VA, and USDA as qualified for exemption but left other products, including loans written by Fannie and Freddie, up to federal regulators to determine.”
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The NAR is full of it as usual. Nobody is “requiring” 20% down payments. All it means is that if you put 20% down, then the gov puts on a stamp of approval, and the bank can securitize the whole thing. If a bank wants to take a chance and lend you 100%, the gov won’t say No, they’ll just say “you gotta keep 5% of that.”

And I seem to recall that 20% down was the norm until only recently. And Re-Al-TORS did just fine in those days…

Comment by oxide
2011-05-27 07:42:57

And on another note, why do homeowners have to put 20% skin in the game but banks only have to put in 5%?

Comment by Al
2011-05-27 08:52:51

Let’s see. If a bundle of loans takes a 20% loss, then the bank’s share of 5% would result in a loss of 1% of the value of the loan. No biggee; something that could be made up by volume.

If the bank required a 20% stake, then a 20% loss would cost the banks 4% of the value of the loan. Now we’re talking. I declare that the banks have to retain 20% to make it worthwhile.

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Comment by polly
2011-05-27 11:04:59

When I was doing securitization transactions (aren’t you guys sick of this story yet?), the partner in charge of the deal made the securitizers keep 10% of the deal. But not just any 10%. They had to keep the most subordinated 10% - called the equity tranche. So, if the deal lost 1% of value, they would absorb all of that loss. If the deal lost 2% of value, they would absorb all of that loss. And so on. Up to the entirety of their equity stake in the deal. The first losses up to 10% of the total deal was all theirs.

The corporate associates spent a lot of time doing due diligence on those deals, because the people who were putting them together had a lot of skin in the game.

It isn’t just the amount they retain. It is the riskiness of what they retain. I think 10% was about right when they didn’t get to spread it around in the less risky tranches. Even 5% would help if all the initial losses got assigned to that 5%. Anything that allows them to spread their retained stake someplace other than the riskiest, most subordinated tranche is essentially useless.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 11:41:53

When I was doing securitization transactions (aren’t you guys sick of this story yet?), the partner in charge of the deal made the securitizers keep 10% of the deal.

I’m not at all sick of this story! Do tell!

 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-05-27 16:57:05

The argument would be that the banks only need to keep 5% BECAUSE the borrower puts in 20%.

The borrower takes the first 20% hit to value. The banks take the next 5%, etc.

At the end of the day, the government backing should slowly leave the market, and whether the number is 5%, 10%, or 15% with varying down payments, etc., should be left to the maket…

Oh, and any loan pools that are based on mortgages without verified income should be illegal to rate (they are speculative by very nature).

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 07:18:34

Why are lying realtors against affordable housing?

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 09:49:08

Beacuse:

1) Cheap houses == tiny comissions
2) Rising prices creates churn as people trade up and flip properties, generating commissions

They’re just following our American, Crony Capitalist model where you rig the system to feather your nest.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 12:57:03

Exactly.

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Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 05:28:08

How to Beat the Market: Follow the Trades of 19 Senators on the Senate Armed Services Committee Who Own Stocks on Prohibited List

Want to beat the market? Here’s how: Take the investment picks of Congress.

In a new academic study, four university professors examined investment results on more than 16,000 stock transactions made by 300 House delegates from 1985 to 2001. The result was clear: They beat the market by an average of 0.55% per month, around 6.6% a year. The professors note a previous study showed members of the U.S. Senate did so well they outperformed hedge funds.

In fact, if members of Congress didn’t beat the market, they’d be bigger morons than you already think they are. Why? Because insider trading laws don’t apply to members of Congress…

You heard that correctly. The Securities and Exchange Act does not apply to members of the U.S. Senate or House of Representatives. Congressional ethics rules say Congressional members aren’t allowed to use privileged information for personal gain. But it’s just a rule, not a law. It’s not legally enforceable. And it’s obvious they’re taking excess profits out of the stock market…

This must be one of the most underreported financial stories of the century. Take one example: The Senate Armed Services Committee forbids staff and presidential appointees requiring Senate confirmation from owning securities in more than 48,000 companies that contract with the Defense Department.

But 19 of the 28 senators on that same committee held assets worth between $3.8 million to $10.2 million in companies on the prohibited list between 2004 and 2009.

19 Senators Own Stocks on Prohibited List

The “new” academic study referenced by Stansbury and Associates is Abnormal Returns From the Common Stock Investments of Members of the U.S. House of Representatives. The data isn’t new. The data is from 2001, as the email even states.

The email goes on to say that “19 of the 28 senators on that same committee held assets worth between $3.8 million to $10.2 million in companies on the prohibited list between 2004 and 2009″.

That is new, at least to me, but is it really new news? I will return to that question in a moment. First consider this question …

Should Insider Trading Laws Even Exist?

My answer: It is debatable whether there should even be insider trading laws, but if such laws should exist at all, the one place they should be just happens to be the one and only place they are not: Congress.

For a nice discussion on my answer above, please consider Robert Murphy’s article Is Insider Trading Really a Crime?

Where’s the Beef?

Returning to the forwarded email, please note that the allegations regarding “19 of 28 senators”.

Who are those senators? You may prefer that phrased as a question we have not heard for a while, “Where’s the Beef?”

While pondering “Where’s the Beef?”, I point you to The Daily Crux article Disgusting rules allow Congress to profit from insider trading

… I also told you on Tuesday how famous investors like Bruce Berkowitz and John Paulson were taking advantage of the government’s heavy-handed regulation and backstopping of the financial system.

Well, Berkowitz and Paulson are late to the party. They’ve got nothing on Amy Friend, the chief counsel to Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd. At the height of the crisis, when the government was making plans to bail out AIG and other large financial institutions, Friend bought $1,000 to $15,000 stakes in Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo, AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Federal Home Loan Bank bonds, and Fannie Mae debt.

Friend bought FHLB and Fannie Mae debt in June and July 2008, just days before President Bush signed a bill that gave the government housing finance agencies big cash injections from the Treasury. Friend is still in the game today, helping to draft Dodd’s sweeping overhaul of the financial regulatory system.

If you or I did what Friend is doing, we’d wind up like Martha Stewart. But for her, Senate rules say it’s perfectly legal. No SEC investigation. No insider trading violation.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-beat-market-follow-trades-of-19.html

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:10:35

To be fair, they might not have known those companies were on the list. 48,000 companies is a lot to keep track of. They probably change all the time too.

Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 08:25:48

You are full of crap!

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:12:16

I am imagining wmbz sitting in his armchiar, holding a lubricated ear with one hand and, with other, trying vigorously to stuff a sock in it.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:01:56

It’s their job to know.

The LAST person who can even THINK about ignorance of the law is the lawmaker.

Comment by polly
2011-05-27 14:46:13

There is probably a whole office that does nothing but keep track of the public and private companies that do business with agencies supervised by the various congressional committees. All they would have to do was check with this office before buying or selling stock. No more burdensome than working at a law firm that does transactional work or having a job with any exposure to information about products or transactions at a public company.

Heck, my agency has a small staff that spends most of its time making sure that letters from congress critters get answered in X number of days and making sure that they get addressed by their preferred names in the return address. You wouldn’t want to call Senator Jones “Alvin” if he prefers to be known as “Butch.”

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-05-27 06:11:56

The obvious answer is bigger, more powerful government.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 07:16:22

The obvious answer is contained, less powerful corporate elite.

 
 
Comment by The_Overdog
2011-05-27 08:19:52

It’s ‘debatable’ if insider trading laws should even exist????
No, it is not. Of course they should exist, and they should exist for members of congress as well.

Information asymetry prevents the stock market from being a ‘perfect market’, and anything less than a perfect market can be gamed. Insider trading laws recognize this fact, and try to put some rules in place around insider trading to make the playing field more even.

Real life case in point: I worked on the original apple iphone, and had submit to having my stock trading monitored to work on the project (I don’t work for apple). I did the rough calculations of being able to trade on the knowledge I had at the time i had it. With long stock and call options, I would have fallen just short of $50mm dollars.

And call options are basically gambling - your winning is someone else’s direct loss. If someone like me (with limited investment skill, ie not a professional) and limited access to investment captital (not a millionaire or anywhere even close) can do that, then professionals with access to insider information could suck money from the system like a vaccuum.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 12:59:29

…and do.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 12:58:03

As I said, In a country run by thieves and liars, you are never going to see reform.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 05:37:16

~ Henry Ford said on February 11, 1934: “Let them fail; let everybody fail! I made my fortune when I had nothing to start with, by myself and my own ideas. Let other people do the same thing. If I lose everything in the collapse of our financial structure, I will start in at the beginning and build it up again.”

-Hard to believe that a person could be this uncompassionate and evil. When all one needs to do is spread others inability and failures on to everyone else, via goobermint.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 09:01:58

Ever read the book We Never Called Him Henry? My father once shared his copy with me, which he’d carefully tucked away in his chemistry and engineering library.

What struck me was the book’s cover, which didn’t display the title that I just mentioned. Why not? Because Ford and his cronies tried to stamp the book out as much as possible. And they almost succeeded.

Read this book, folks. It shows the other side of Ford, and it isn’t pretty.

 
Comment by Bub Diddley
2011-05-27 09:47:38

Yes, Henry Ford should be held up as a paragon of moral virtue. Why don’t you take a look at some of Ford’s publications, which can give us a better idea of his thinking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew

Here’s a pdf of the whole thing:

http://www.americannaziparty.com/about/InternationalJew.pdf

Let us know if there are any more quotes there you would like to highlight.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-05-27 05:51:13

OECD: America risks a crisis unless it raises interest rates

America runs the risk of a crisis unless it raises interest rates and lays out a plan to cut its deficit by the end of the year, a leading economic think-tank has warned.

By Richard Blackden, US Business Editor
8:30PM BST 25 May 2011

Interest rates should be lifted to 1pc by the end of the year from their current band of between 0pc and 0.25pc, according to the latest semi-annual outlook from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

Doing so would avoid the Federal Reserve having to raise rates more quickly later to counter inflation, according to the think-tank’s economists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/interestrates/8536547/OECD-America-risks-a-crisis-unless-it-raises-interest-rates.html - -

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:07:54

America risks a crisis if it doesn’t stop playing patty-cake with these low-wage “trading partners” of ours.

These globalists are really getting out-of-control arrogant. Did you hear on NPR this morning how some Dutch country is getting sick of having the life sucked out of them by corporatist economic bullying, and some silly Globalist lady was calling the country “pathetic” for wanting to have control over its own borders.

Note to silly Globalists: You can not have “open borders” as long as different regions within your area of interest are controlled by different governments. The fact that you expect us all to fall for this is pathetic. We are not as stupid as you think.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 07:59:21

These globalists are really getting out-of-control arrogant. Did you hear on NPR this morning how some Dutch country is getting sick of having the life sucked out of them by corporatist economic bullying, and some silly Globalist lady was calling the country “pathetic” for wanting to have control over its own borders.

When I was in biz school a few years ago, working on my worthless MBA, the profs kept ranting about how the nation state is an obsolete concept.

Of course corporatists hate nation states, what with their pesky labor and environemntal laws. They’re outright business unfriendly!

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:15:07

Yeah, and if they’re so obsolete, then how come we still have them? They’re everywhere!

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 10:59:51

I kid you not, those profs really believed the world would be a better place if contries were abolished and corporations ran everything.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:05:17

I thought the same thing… when I was a teenager.

Then I learned that good fences make for good neighbors.

 
Comment by Dale
2011-05-27 18:34:43

“…..if contries were abolished and corporations ran everything.”

ROLLERBALL!

 
 
Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2011-05-27 11:02:11

Of course corporatists hate nation states, what with their pesky labor and environmental laws.

Nation states CREATE corporatists by passing corporation laws and issuing corporate charters. If they did not do this, there would be far less concentration of power in business, and thus far fewer environmental, labor, etc. abuses to worry about.

No nation states–> no corporatists.

How many times do I have to make this obvious point before it sinks in?

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 11:16:21

Well, that is the inherent hypocrisy of the unsustainable Corporatist dogma. Corporations rely on the very nations they revile so much. That’s why nations should not be fooled into thinking that they should allow corporations to take precedence over people. You do that, and you are ruined.

 
Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2011-05-27 11:39:20

Simply by CREATING corporations, the government has allowed corporations to take precedence over people. Corporations are set up from the start with privileges and immunities that individuals do not have– and that undermine the entire rest of the legal system.

Once this is done, no amount of “regulation” can fix the problem. Regulation has been tried for well over a century and the laws have gotten vastly more bloated while the problems have gotten worse and worse.

The entire corporate concept does not work and must be scrapped. You must attack the problem at its root and demand the repeal of corporation laws. Otherwise I am going to suspect that you are really an undercover corporate agent like ecofeco.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:15:29

You must have missed the entire 1980s and de-regulation. Both he Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act and the Garn–St. Germain Depository Institutions Act lead DIRECTLY to the S&L disaster.

Or the more recent Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act and Commodities Modernization Act.

LESS regulation is what has gotten us to this point.

As for nations issuing charters, in this country, it’s the states that issue charters, not the federal government. Delware in particular is to blame for the worst of these.

Yes, giving institutions and organization more rights than a human being is nothing but a disaster waiting to happen. It is in fact, what lead directly to the American Revolution. The colonists weren’t mad at the government of England, they were mad at the East India Co, which controlled the government of England and we’re only able to do so because King George was severely mentally ill.

If you read the Declaration of Independence, you will see it is a literal shopping list of economic grievances.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 14:20:48

“Otherwise I am going to suspect that you are really an undercover corporate agent like ecofeco.”

Wait, I thought I was a pro-government liberal commie.

They say you’re doing something right when you’re pissing off both sides. :lol:

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-28 00:40:15

LOL, eco.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 05:53:21

Murder house for sale: Would YOU buy a home where three people were killed in a decade? By Fiona Roberts 27th May 2011

It doesn’t quite fit with a real estate agent’s usual spiel: three well-appointed bedrooms, a large garden - and three murders.

Welcome to 9337 Columbia Boulevard, Silver Spring, Maryland, a house with a bloody past which has gone on the market for $515,000.

Bloody past: Three people have been brutally murdered in this two-storey colonial home, which has now been put on the market for $515,000

The family of Mr Betts, a popular middle school principal, wanted the home to be bulldozed after he was shot in his bedroom in April last year by an 18-year-old he met on a gay chatline.

Instead, the 1936 two-storey brick house went up for sale again after his relatives returned it to the bank.

It originally went on the market in April, for $535,000, but the asking price was lowered by $20,000 earlier this month.

Under Maryland state law, real estate agents do not have to tell prospective buyers if the house has been the scene of a murder.

So when Mr Betts, a principal at Garnet-Patterson Middle School, bought the property in August 2003, he had no idea a little girl and her father had been brutally murdered there the year before.

Erika Smith, nine, was pistol-whipped and shot in the back at point-blank range by Anthony Kelly, who broke into the kitchen on August 6, 2002 wearing a wig and a fake beard.

She screamed ‘daddy, daddy’, and her accountant father, Greg Russell, ran to help his little girl - but it was too late.

Then Kelly turned the gun on Mr Russell, shooting him at least six times, before picking up a New Testament with $3 hidden inside and running off.
It was part of a violent crime spree including two rapes, for which Kelly received two life sentences without parole after he was found guilty in 2008.

When Mr Betts discovered what had happened in his new home, he tried desperately to get out of the deal.

His family’s attorney, Rene Sandler, told NBC: ‘He was saddened, he was shocked, he was upset and did everything he could to rescind the purchase of this house.’

When he was told he couldn’t, he asked two ministers to bless the house in an attempt to rid it of any evil spirits.

Then on April 14, 2010, he met 18-year-old Alante Saunders on a gay sex chatline.
Killer: Alante Saunders, 18, pleaded guilty to shooting popular school principal Brian Betts in the bedroom of his house in Maryland

On the market: The house, the scene of three murders, is for sale on Zillow with an asking price of $515,000. It has been reduced from $535,000

The next day, Saunders and three other teenagers entered the house and shot Mr Betts in his bedroom in what police believe was a deliberately-planned robbery.

Saunders pleaded guilty in November and was given a life sentence with all but 40 years suspended.

The murder of the popular principal, who had been an advocate for local school reform, prompted an outpouring of grief, and 2,000 mourners attended his memorial service.

Mr Sandler said: ‘If the Betts family had their way, they would have bulldozed this house, they would have done a memorial permanently for Brian K Betts.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391221/Would-YOU-buy-home-people-died-just-years.html#ixzz1NYZuTAVX

Comment by The_Overdog
2011-05-27 07:12:25

I would buy it (were i in the market and for less than $500k).
I bet it’s full of cool crazy ghosts.

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-05-27 07:16:44

The family of Mr Betts, a popular middle school principal, wanted the home to be bulldozed after he was shot in his bedroom in April last year by an 18-year-old he met on a gay chatline.

There is a lesson in there somewhere…

Comment by MrBubble
2011-05-27 09:35:21

I believe the lesson was “he asked two ministers to bless the house in an attempt to rid it of any evil spirits.”

 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 09:50:53

And that lesson would be?

Vote the Mark Foley / Larry Craig family values ticket in 2012, campaign blessed by spiritual advisor Ted Haggard :)

Comment by MrBubble
2011-05-27 11:59:30

Good one. You just put the term “wide stance” in my head. How hilarious/tragic was that bowlful of denial?

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Comment by 2banana
2011-05-27 13:53:24

Mark Foley – resigned in disgrace September 29th, 2006

Larry Craig - resigned in disgrace September 2nd, 2007

Bill “what is the meaning of the word is” Clinton – still a hero of the left

Barney “give my gay lover an executive job in the government program I have oversight” Frank - still a hero of the left

I think I see your point.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:03:35

I do not like the patriot act. I also do not like Arizona, where the cops will break your door down and immediately begin spraying bullets from semi-automatic weapons, killing everyone in sight. Wife and baby home? Too bad. This makes me think we all to do more than just stock up on semiautomatic weapons. We need to build defenses around our houses to keep the cops out.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-05-27 06:15:35

An even bigger, more powerful government wouldn’t do stuff like this.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 15:09:04

I just want the government and its laws to be more powerful than the would-be oligarchs. Reducing the power of the oligarchs is a fine way to get there, and still keep our rights. Progressive taxation is a good way to do just that, since the oligarchs’ power lies in their money.

Do you perhaps know another way? Or do you favor unilateral disarmament- weakening the government while we let the oligarchs amass more power?

 
Comment by Dale
2011-05-27 18:39:56

“The bigger the gouvernment…..the smaller the citizen.” - Dennis Prager (sp?)

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 19:39:52

Yes, a citizen of Sweden doesn’t have near the stature of a citizen of Ethiopia.

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Comment by palmetto
2011-05-27 06:28:06

“I also do not like Arizona, where the cops will break your door down and immediately begin spraying bullets from semi-automatic weapons, killing everyone in sight.”

Arizona? I thought it was Indiana.

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 06:38:28

Oh, were there TWO of these incidents recently?

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:23:22

Well V, the recent Supreme Court ruling says the cops can do whatever the hell they want just as long as they “suspect” there is a crime in progress.

Breaking down your door without a warrant is at the top of the list.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 13:51:40

Permit me to weigh in on this case by saying I know people who are part of the Pima County Sheriff’s Department SWAT Team. Were they at this raid, which seems to have gone horribly wrong? I don’t know. But I’m not rushing to judgement without having all the facts of the case.

 
 
 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 07:00:19

From yesterday’s Wash Post article about Sarah Palin’s bus tour:

Asked the purpose of the trip, Tim Crawford, the treasurer of Palin’s PAC, said, “Because she wants to see how this nation was built and get fired up about that.”

On her Web site, Palin wrote: “I’ve said many times that America doesn’t need a ‘fundamental transformation,’ instead we need a restoration of all that is good and strong and free in America! So, together let’s prepare ourselves for the days ahead by reminding ourselves who we are and what American stand for.”

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 07:06:41

She is going to get depressed once she sees how this country has decayed over the last 30 years. I drove from the west coast to the east coast recently. I saw water towers that once served vast farms, now rusted and tilting precariously over the nearby freeway, just waiting to drop on a passing car. I saw industrial buildings empty and not even boarded up anymore, since the boards have long-since been eaten by termites. I even saw neighborhoods where more than one household was living with NO WINDOWS in the little holes that had been built into the house, designed for a window to be put in there.

Road trip = wakeup call for anyone who doesn’t know that it’s bad to to give all your jobs to other countries.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 07:51:57

You’re assuming that Palin actually cares.

Comment by butters
2011-05-27 07:59:03

She cares as much as any other politician. They all probably take a nap or watch movie when they pull a stunt like that……..

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Comment by CrackerBob
2011-05-27 08:16:31

She cares about making a lot of money for herself.

She’s running for president like Newt is running for president; they have to keep their Fox “Q” rating up or the mouthbreathers will stop tuning in.

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Comment by Wolf
2011-05-27 09:20:51

Our overlords really need to get out into flyover country. Sadly I don’t think they care.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:25:17

They don’t. No need to guess.

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Comment by ahansen
2011-05-27 12:11:52

If the blinged-out Mrs. Palin wishes to see the “real” America, she should take the train and gander a good look at America’s back yard.

Free from sycophants and handlers, maybe she’d get over herself long enough to notice the endless encampments of homeless vets, the hoboes and beggars along the rails, the empty factory buildings and the makeshift toxic waste dumps lining the route. Maybe she’d be jolted by the raggedy kids hanging around the deserted weed lots and scum ponds during what should be school hours, and the endless blown out houses standing abandoned or scrawled over with drug graffiti. She’d see the shopping cart tarp towns and plyboard shacks with “Jesus” written on them in spray paint. Maybe she’d think to herself, “Why, this looks like Kolkata!” (If she’d ever seen the slums of inner India.)

She’d get to talk to “real Americans” trying to get their mothers to unaffordable medical clinics in distant cities, kids trying to figure out how to pay for one more semester of college, families fleeing for cheaper climes. She could ask the conductors and porters about some of the little kids abandoned on the train by desperate parents, or the crazy soldiers coming home after endless deployments.

But then she’d likely get her hair extensions in a twist and would have to let the “real” people she encounters she what a self-serving buffoon she really is– and that wouldn’t be good for the brand. No siree. (wink, wink.)

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 17:26:23

You’re right about the trains. I never saw so many hobo towns under bridges until took the trains.

We are a very disingenuous nation. And that’s putting it politely.

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Comment by bink
2011-05-27 09:19:14

I wanna know who’s paying for her bus tour. OK, I really don’t care.. but I’m slightly curious.

Comment by oxide
2011-05-27 18:18:58

The religious right is paying. Some evil liberals found some footage of Sister Sarah landing at a small airport, and tracked the serial number on the plane to one of those TV preachers — Billy Graham, I believe.

 
 
 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 07:14:27

From Reuters: Consumer spending tepid as inflation accelerates

High food and energy prices in April kept inflation elevated last month, with the personal consumption expenditures price (PCE) index rising 0.3 percent after advancing 0.4 percent in March.

The core PCE index — excluding food and energy - increased 0.2 percent on month after rising 0.1 percent in March.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-05-27 08:41:52

We usually do steaks for Memorial Day. This year … we’re grilling bratwursts.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 10:35:32

I’m gonna do Mrs. RAL for Memorial Day.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:26:36

If I didn’t have a wedding to go to, I wouldn’t be doing anything.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:30:50

This article:

“Consumers hold back growth, rebound seen muted”

Was posted on Yahoo yesterday.

You should have SEEN the backlash! Paint was being peeled from the walls!

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-05-27 07:49:02

As I have said about this area before, prices are affordable in neighborhoods where “average people” don`t want to live.
That is why there is not ” a line in front of real estate
offices.”

Falling prices, low-rate mortgages put record number of homes in South Florida within the grasp of average people

By Jeff Ostrowski Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 8:03 a.m. Friday, May 27, 2011

You could call it the upside of the downturn: Housing affordability in Palm Beach County hit a new high during the first three months of the year.

Thanks to plunging home prices, resilient incomes and low mortgage rates, 77.5 percent of homes sold in the first quarter were within reach of a median-income family, according to an affordability index released this week by the National Association of Home Builders.

Plunging prices are a painful but necessary part of any housing recovery, economists say.

“At least one piece of the puzzle has returned,” Wells Fargo economist Mark Vitner said. “Affordability is in place.”

Although sales of homes have picked up, the favorable affordability numbers haven’t created boom-like conditions.

“Everything is aligned in a straight line to make housing unbelievably affordable,” said Douglas Rill, who owns Century 21 America’s Choice in West Palm Beach. “You might think that with that kind of affordability, there’d be a line in front of real estate offices. But sadly, that’s not happening.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/real-estate/falling-prices-low-rate-mortgages-put-record-number-1501812.html?cxtype=rss_real-estate_25296 - -

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 09:32:31

“unbelievably” affordable? Why must it be prefaced by an adjective? Either it’s affordable or it isn’t.

Frankly I think the Century21 realtor is lying. Nothing is affordable…. but he’s in FL. Maybe SpinmasterFlash DJ Jethro B can comment.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-05-27 15:04:31

At 72k this house is affordable.
BUT IT IS IN CANABAL COLONY!

MLS#: PID: 00-43-41-31-04-030-0070
List Price 72,000
City:
Palm Beach Gardens Zip Code: 33410 -
PALM BEACH CABANA COLONY
Pack: Multi Offers Accptd:
Living Rm: 15 x 15 Den: Master BR: 13 x 12 Liv SqFt: 1,112 BR: 3 Kitchen: 15 x 10 Family Rm: Bedroom 2:
Tot SqFt: 1,568
Yr Built: 1967/
PUBLIC WATER, PUBLIC SEWER Parkg: DRIVEWAY Spec: SOLD AS-IS,

BANK OWNED Taxes: CITY / CO Wndw/Trmts: MH Feats: Subdv: NONE Pend Dt: Clos Dt: CDOM: 4 DOM: 4 Terms:

SP: 3/1 SFR in Palm Beach Gardens with no HOA! Home has no appliances and A/C unit, and is in need of some work and updating. Great investment! Copyright 2011

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 08:33:41

Just another lowlife lying POS…Voters are smart!

March 18, 2011 ~ ABC News

President Obama told a bipartisan group of members of Congress today that he expects the U.S. would be actively involved in any military action against Libya for “days, not weeks,” after which he said the U.S. would take more of a supporting role, sources tell ABC News.

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 10:19:09

Didn’t Bush say something similar about Iraq?

Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 11:21:40

Could have but who cares?

All the smart people know the entire worlds problems rest solely on the shoulders of Bush. So who’s parting at Barry’s crib this weekend, and did you watch Okra’s final show?

Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 11:39:45

The point is that I think this is a stock answer given by all Presidents when challenged with questions about our obligations in any burgeoning war.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 15:24:53

“actively involved in any military action against Libya for “days, not weeks,” after which he said the U.S. would take more of a supporting role,”

Isn’t this exactly what has happened thus far? We were very involved in the first few days, firing a lot of cruise missiles and flying missions to degrade their air defenses, and now it’s the euros flying most of the air missions, and the Brits who are sending in helicopters.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 08:36:39

Repairman Faces Charges Of Cleaning Out Bay Area ATMs, Refilling Them With Counterfeit Bills

REDWOOD CITY (CBS SF) – It was en elaborate heist that nearly paid off, big time. An ATM repairman swapped out fake bills for real cash, police said, getting away with $200,000.

The phony $20 bills coming out of some Bank of America automated bank machines last July 4 didn’t fool anyone. They were printed on a photocopier and stuffed into the ATM by a serviceman, who took the real money and fled, according to investigators.

“He went into seven of these machines, took the cash out and replaced it with counterfeit, and not sophisticated, just simply taking some bills, placing them on the Xerox machine, cut them up and put them in its place in the machines,” said Steve Wagstaffe, San Mateo County District Attorney.

The real money, $200,000, was on its way out of town, along with 64-year-old service man Samuel Kioskli, police said. Two weeks ago, Kioskli, of San Francisco, was arrested in Phoenix.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:34:03

You have to wonder how he even got the job.

So many people out of work, yet there are so many stories of employees ripping off their employers.

 
 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-05-27 08:54:45

Pending home sales dive 11.6 percent in April
Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Pending sales of existing U.S. homes dropped far more than expected in April to touch a seven-month low, a trade group said on Friday, dealing a blow to hopes of a recovery in the housing market.

U.S. consumer sentiment improved in May as job gains offset high gasoline prices, while inflation expectations diminished, a survey released on Friday showed.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 09:39:24

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Some jack@ss guest on WBBR is blaming the collapse in housing sales volume on high gasoline costs.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:35:34

But, but, I thought mortgage applications were up!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 08:56:58

Charlie Sheen puts Sober Valley Ranch up for sale, porn company makes offer. L.A. Times

Heads up: Actor Charlie Sheen appears to be making some big changes in his life and has just listed his long-time Sherman Oaks residence for $7.2 million, according to The Real Estalker.

While the world knows Mr. Sheen is now unemployed (Ashton Kutcher is set to take over Sheen’s role on the sitcom “Two and a Half Men”), a Forbes report shows Sheen racked up about $40 million over the past year, so it’s obvious that Sheen isn’t selling because he can’t afford the mortgage payment.

And Sheen already has a cash offer on the table! An online porn site has reportedly offered Sheen $4million for the house, and says it would fill it with porn stars, as Sheen once said he wanted to do.

Not only that, the former owner would be welcome to come over any time.

Sheen has owned his Sherman Oaks residence on Aubrey Road since 1997, buying it for $2.5 million. Just this past March, Sheen purchased a second home about nine houses away in the gated community of Mullholland Estates. The second estate, which has a recorded sale price of $6,999,999 (listed for $7.5 million) is just a few blocks away from the Sheen home that just went on the market.

The reported idea behind the purchase of the second McMansion, in addition to allegedly purchasing a few more properties in the neighborhood, was to give one to ex-wife Denise Richards and another to Brooke Mueller (Sheen’s soon-to-be ex-wife). Apparently his torpedo of truth exploded on that idea and Sheen has decided to list the Aubrey Road home he has owned for over a decade.

Sheen’s Sherman Oaks mansion is a custom-built Mediterranean estate with 5 bedrooms, 7 bathrooms and nearly 8,000-sq ft of living space. Other features include a private screening room, and a professional outdoor kitchen with dining area, pool, and spa.

No doubt that the world of Sherman Oaks real estate is on deck for some real estate crazy, but only time will tell what exactly it might be.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:37:11

Having 2 girlfriends who are ex “sex workers” isn’t cheap either. :lol:

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-05-27 18:48:49

They are not ordinary girlfriends: They are angels (Charlie’s angels in fact).

 
 
 
Comment by Kim
2011-05-27 09:08:20

Some personal anecdotes from the housing front:

A friend of mine gave one (of her two) rental properties back to the bank, and got a deed-in-lieu approved and done. AFAICT there will be no deficiency judgement. I was surprised at how quick and clean this went, compared to how we usually hear these things go. I don’t hear much about deeds-in-lieu happening very often, but friend is greatly relieved.

An acquaintance of mine missed their first mortgage payment. This one doesn’t have very good money management skills. Still gets her hair colored and nails professionally done regularly, lunches are always take-out, the family took three vacations (so far) in 2011. I don’t think this is going to end well.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 09:36:03

Kim,

Is this in ChicagoLand?

Comment by Kim
2011-05-27 10:52:06

Yes for both.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 09:32:28

Revisiting Barney Frank
By Neal Boortz

So Slobbering Barney Frank finally admitted helping Herb Moses get a job at Fannie Mae during the early 1990s. Who was Herb Moses? Hunky Herb was Barney’s boyfriend at the time. Why does it matter? Because Barney Frank was on the committee that regulated Fannie Mae at the time he helped his lover get the job … and then for the next few years when Herb Moses was one of the Fannie Mae executives pushing the very Fannie Mae loan guarantee programs that led to our housing and mortgage crisis, while escaping rigorous oversight from Congress. A conflict of interest? Hell ya! But not according to Slobbering Barney Frank. He says, “If it is (a conflict of interest), then much of Washington is involved (in conflicts). It is a common thing in Washington for members of Congress to have spouses work for the federal government. There is no rule against it at all.”

Working for the federal government, fine. But serving on the Congressional committee that oversees your lover’s job? In 2003, the Bush administration proposed altering the regulation of GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Barney Frank had this to say at a hearing of the Financial Services Committee on the subject:

” I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two government sponsored enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury”….

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 10:28:49

by Neal Boortz?

Save yourself wmbz. You have little time left.

Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 11:16:25

It’s not about Boortz you DA. But keep you head right where it is firmly your…

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 11:41:13

Save yourself.

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Comment by Big V
2011-05-27 11:41:49

Now now, I hardly think it’s fair to accuse Rio of being a district attorney.

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Comment by Left Ohio
2011-05-27 11:08:18

Cue up Rush Limbaugh’s spoof song “Banking Queen” to the tune of ABBA …

 
Comment by ahansen
2011-05-28 01:00:41

Tell it to Clarence Thomas.

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-05-27 09:35:00

ALEXANDRIA, Va. – A judge has ruled that the campaign-finance law banning corporations from making contributions to federal candidates is unconstitutional, citing the Supreme Court’s landmark Citizens United decision last year in his analysis.

In a ruling issued late Thursday, U.S. District Judge James Cacheris tossed out part of an indictment against two men accused of illegally reimbursing donors to Hillary Clinton’s Senate and presidential campaigns.

Cacheris says that under the Citizens United decision, corporations enjoy the same rights as individuals to contribute to campaigns.

The ruling from the federal judge in Virginia is the first of its kind. The Citizens United case had applied only to corporate spending on campaigning by independent groups, like ads run by third parties to favor one side, not to direct contributions to the candidates themselves.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:40:41

He was wrong. Corporations enjoy MORE rights than human beings.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-05-27 09:42:31

Happy Crazy Headline Friday

Man arrested for stealing gun after it’s thrown from reckless vehicle with flat tire caused by bullet hole

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_18151607?source=most_viewed

SANTA CRUZ - A report of a reckless vehicle with a bullet-ridden tire and a gun found on a Westside sidewalk led to the arrest of a 19-year-old man Thursday night.

Police said just after 7 p.m., someone reported the reckless vehicle in the area of West Cliff Drive and Sacramento Avenue. Witnesses said someone threw a gun from the vehicle, which reportedly had a flat thanks to a bullet in the tire, according to Lt. Larry Richard. Witnesses said the gun was lying on the sidewalk when a man walked by, picked it up and headed north on Stockton Avenue toward Modesto.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:43:05

A few months ago in Houston, a cop died in car crash while on duty and 2 people passing by stole his guns.

And I quote (no lie), “Well he didn’t need them anymore.”

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-05-27 10:52:11

The video is funny. (And it’s free)

(Congressman (R)) Rob Woodall Won’t Give Up Government Health Care ‘Because It’s Free’

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/05/25-4

WASHINGTON — Moments after preaching extreme self-reliance to one of his constituents, a Georgia Republican told a gathering in his district that he will continue to rely on government-subsidized health care “because it’s free.”

…comments he made…to a retired constituent who told him her company does not provide retiree benefits.

“Hear yourself, ma’am. Hear yourself,” Woodall told the woman. “You want the government to take care of you, because your employer decided not to take care of you. My question is, ‘When do I decide I’m going to take care of me?’”

Woodall was asked why — if he believes in such self reliance — he doesn’t forgo his government health care plan.

“I have a question about taking care of you. You have government subsidized health care, but you are not obligated to take that if you don’t want to. Why aren’t you going out on the free market in the state where you’re a resident and buy your own health care? Be an example,” said a constituent in the new video.

…”It’s because it’s free. It’s because it’s free,” he said. “The same reason I went out to Walgreen’s and bought ActivOn and I don’t have any arthritis pain: Because it’s free. …

Comment by butters
2011-05-27 11:39:32

That’s why democrats should support private healthcare system. Fat Cats like him have no business sucking gvmt…..

Instead they want 300 million entitled people like this clown.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 15:42:15

The private health care system sucks, though. It’s expensive as hell and they’ll drop you if you use it.

Why can’t we get some of that government-sponsored health care coverage, that’s apparently so good that even its enemies won’t give it up?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-05-27 15:48:46

Why can’t we get some of that government-sponsored health care coverage, that’s apparently so good that even its enemies won’t give it up?

You mean like the coverage that the members of Congress have? And, perhaps, the healthcare that’s provided by the VA?

Disclaimer: My mother once worked for the VA.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 11:55:09

GOP hypocrisy is stunning…. absolutely stunning.

Comment by CrackerJim
2011-05-27 13:11:19

Democratic hypocrisy is stunning…. absolutely stunning. There, fixed it for you. see how that works?

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 13:15:55

Rob Woodall (r)

See this?—->(r) ? You know that thingy after his name? It’s called republican…… And it’s synonymous with hypocrisy. And their hypocrisy is stunning. Rob Woodall (r) …… Rob Woodall (r) …… Rob Woodall (r)

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:44:51

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68R40I20100928

Republicans block ending offshore jobs tax breaks | Reuters

Yes I see exactly how that works.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 15:07:33

Rob Woodall is a republican.

Nice try though.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-05-27 15:44:36

“see how that works?”

See how changing a word for no logical reason works? No.

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Comment by wmbz
2011-05-27 11:14:09

Wall Street Higher As Dollar Lifts Commodities
{Perky headline masks dollar weakness.)

Guys and gals with a knack for spinning negative trends into something positive work every day weaving the headlines and subheads in financial news.

“Dollar lifts commodities” has a nice ring to it. “Wall Street Higher” is good copy, too. And it’s true! The dollar’s weakness today has definitely boosted the price of gold. It was $1,536.70 per ounce in the noon hour spot market.

The word “weak” is missing from the headline above, as in “weak dollar lifts commodities.”

← It’s not easy to write about money and economics. They may affect us all, but the subjects are simultaneously boring and confusing. Even a good friend will go glassy-eyed if flaws in today’s system of currency and credit are raised. “Federal Reserve Notes not backed by anything of intrinsic value? Geez. . .who cares? Just put more of whatever they are in my pocket.”

About half the voting population thinks “money problems” would be solved if the government would more efficiently shake down the rich, Robin Hood style. Take from the rich and give to the poor.

It’s Marxist ideal - -”From each, according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

The problem: It doesn’t work.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 13:46:29

It works just fine… if you’re a Wall St. banker.

You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 12:01:20

The National Association of Realtors® keeps claiming there’s never been a better time to buy, but nobody believes it anymore.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/25/survey-says-owning-a-house-is?

Reason Magazine said this. Do you see? Nobody believes NAR anymore. Do you hear me NAR-Scum? I know you’re reading…. nobody believes you anymore. Do you know why? I think you do. You’re liars. All of you. You’re dishonest. Corrupt.

None of you can be trusted.

 
Comment by Anonymous Coward
2011-05-27 12:25:15

This is about a month old, so you all have probably seen it already. But i just love the logic of this lady:

msnbc
Rules for ‘jumbo’ mortgages to change this year

WASHINGTON — Bethany and Karl Schreiber are hunting for a nice big house in the pricey Washington, D.C., suburbs and they are facing a deadline: In just a few months their third child will be born, and the tiny two-bedroom they’ve been inhabiting will officially get too small.

But there’s a second deadline looming for them as well. Beginning on Oct. 1, the government will dial back on the size of mortgages it guarantees in high-cost areas like San Francisco, New York and Washington.

After that, the maximum loan amount that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will back is scheduled to drop from $729,750 to $625,500. And that may make mortgages more expensive or harder to get for buyers like the Schreibers, who are shopping in the $700,000 range and would prefer to make a downpayment of 10 percent or less.

“If we wait a year, we may not be able to afford as big a house,” Bethany said in an interview. “Rates and housing prices are probably going to go up.”

………………

Seriously? (a) Lending is going to be curtailed, and you think prices are going to go up? (b) You expect interest rates to go up, and you think prices are going to go up? What an idiot.

Comment by rms
2011-05-27 18:27:51

These peeps must knock down some tall cotton to support a hefty mortgage and have three young kids meaning mom is too busy to work outside the home.

 
 
Comment by cactus
2011-05-27 15:27:28

Ben probably knows all about this

NY times about blogging http://finance.yahoo.com/news/My-Blog-Is-Also-Paying-My-nytimes-1951716015.html?x=0

Casting the digital equivalent of a message-in-a-bottle into the Internet’s vast sea of content, many people start Web sites or blogs hoping that they will find an appreciative audience for their precocious parrot videos, cupcake recipes or pithy commentary on everyday life. The dream, of course, is that they will develop a large and loyal following — and potentially profit from it.

“I tell people if they want to start a blog just to make money, they should quit right now,” Mr. Pavlina said. “You have to love it and be passionate about your topic.”

Comment by rms
2011-05-27 17:32:54

I hate clicking on ads, so I slip Ben an Andrew Jackson every two weeks.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 15:36:33

A friend sent me this today:

http://influenceexplorer.com/

“Influence Explorer provides an overview of campaign finance, lobbying and federal spending data.”

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-05-27 21:16:01

Looky here folks…. NARscums top Ten bribed elected officials.

Bill Brady (R-IL)
Rick Perry (R-TX)
Bradley Byrne (R-AL)
Joe Straus (R-TX)
David Dewhurst (R-TX)
Pat Quinn (D-IL)
Robert F McDonnell (R-VA)
Robert Bentley (R-AL)
William J Howell (R-VA)
Scott Walker (R-WI)

9 out of 10 are bought and paid for retardicans….. such hypocrisy.

http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/national-assn-of-realtors/bb98402bd4d3471cad392a671ecd733a?cycle=2010

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-05-27 16:02:50

I am finding myself less excited about having correctly maneuvered the house part of the bubble and more worried about the future.

Yes, I know worrying is suffering in advance, but I can’t control the feeling.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-05-27 17:35:53

72 million people make $500 or less a week.

15 million of them are unemployed.

The total workforce is only 156 million.

Of that, only 10% make 100k or more (15 million)

That only leaves +/- 69 million people in the middle class.

This makes your odds about 55/45 that you will ever earn a decent living.

In other words, slightly tilted in favor of NOT.

So despite our mighty military and F.I.R.E. mafia, we are now by definition, a 2nd world country.

Comment by Muggy
2011-05-27 17:47:22

Thanks for the pep talk!

 
 
 
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