July 6, 2011

Bits Bucket for July 6, 2011

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Comment by drumminj
2011-07-06 00:54:21

For those who missed my post over the weekend:

The Joshua Tree Extension has been updated to support Firefox 5. Click the link in my name.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 06:13:36

Thank you….Thank you..Thank you…

 
Comment by m2p
2011-07-06 08:25:47

Updated last night and working great, don’t know how I ever read this blog with out it. Many thanks.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 09:06:22

Thank you.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 10:26:12

Thanks for the update. Will do the FF5/JT upgrade thing shortly.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 11:30:11

Splashhhhhhh!

That’s the sound of Slim, jumping into the FF5/JT upgrade pool. Come on in, everybody, the water’s fine.

 
 
Comment by Elanor
2011-07-06 12:24:16

My corporate masters have blocked downloads of Firefox, without which no can get Joshua Tree extension. But thanks anyway.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 12:51:13

Are you Chinese? just askin’… :-)

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 04:23:00

http://contrarianedge.com/2011/07/05/the-chinese-black-swan/

Party rulers in China are trapped in a position that chess players deeply fear — zugzwang — where any move made puts you at disadvantage. In China, the potential cost of both action and inaction is economic collapse.

China is slowly starting to face the consequences of its actions — loans grew over 30% a year over the last few years — and inflation is rising fast. Inflation in developed countries is unpleasant, but it is tolerable. For a developing country — and China, despite its size, is still a developing country — it can be catastrophic. In developed countries, we spend two or three times less on food as a percentage of our income as do people in developing countries. Therefore, though food inflation is unpleasant, we have a much greater tolerance (margin of safety) for it. While food inflation the US can mean fewer trips to restaurants or no summer vacation, food inflation in China leads to hunger.

The Chinese government is desperately trying to put the brakes on the economy. It is shutting off lending to land developers and has raised bank reserve requirements five times this year. However, its success on the inflation front will likely lead to a slowdown of the economy and high unemployment. Ironically, those were the issues party planners tried to cure when they stimulated the hell out of the economy over the last few years.

China bulls are arguing that the almighty Chinese government will be able to soft-land the economy. Unlikely, I’d say. Forced lending was at the core of Chinese economic growth. Simply put, there is too much debt to go bad. According to Ernst and Young, one-third of the $700 billion in loans taken out by local governments may face repayment problems. The People’s Bank of China estimates that Chinese banks’ exposure to local government loans is 14 trillion yuan ($2.2 trillion), according to the June 17 South China Morning Post. Once lending is cut off, property prices will stop appreciating (and likely collapse — that is what usually happens in a Ponzi scheme). Also, the overcapacity in the industrial sector and commercial real estate will come to the surface. And suddenly everyone will discover that the venerable emperor has no clothes.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 06:17:39

And suddenly everyone will discover that the venerable emperor has no clothes…

…and ton$ & ton$ of $tored commoditie$, just like Goldenman$ucks. ;-)

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 07:42:50

Goldman should brace for whiplash.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:46:49

FaultyTrump Towers = “Yes, the buildings gone BK, but it’s just my $ignage up there, get it?”

Goldenman$ucks Inc. = “Yes, there’s a lock on your commoditie$, you haven’t paid u$ your $torage fee$, get it?”

:-)

“S” as in… “Slippery” / “Slick” / “Smart$”

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Comment by 2banana
2011-07-06 06:56:35

I keep thinking of the articles where Chinese peasants were buying copper, iron and nickel slabs and were storing them on their farms.

Cause the price of copper, iron and nickel always goes up.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-07-06 11:29:45

“Cause the price of copper, iron and nickel always goes up.”

They may not always go up, but at least they are something _real_.

As opposed to the fiats that I am holding because I don’t know what else to hold, which the Fed is deadset on devaluing.

I would avoid the iron, though—it does rust…

 
 
Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 07:02:19

Too much debt to go around is the same problem that we have in the US. But we are a richer country, with a much more effective safety net.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 07:14:44

Sometimes in Life, less is more. ;-)

China: x1 Billion + 340+ Millions of healthy biological obeying non-desiring animals.

USA: x1 Billion + 310+ Millions of quasi-healthy biological quasi-obeying non-desiring animals con$umers.

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 08:12:41

China is a dictatorship. They can eliminate debt easier than we can. A simple stroke of the pen. No need for a bailout like in the US/Europe.

Comment by yensoy
2011-07-06 08:53:55

No they can’t. Any such action will have one of 2 consequences:
1. wiping out the local economy (either by massive inflation or confiscation of savings or curtailment of infrastructure spending), which could lead to collapse of the status quo
2. sudden appreciation of the yuan, which will kill exports

It has to be one or the other, or more likely a combination of both which seems to be the case given the rise in inflation accompanied by rise in the RMB.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 09:27:26

They are still a Communist country, consfication of savings has been done successfully in the past(along with re-education).

That is why the Chinese buy expensive properties in Vancouver.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 10:53:34

That is why the Chinese buy expensive properties in Vancouver.

There is a rumor making the rounds that Chinese investors are interested in purchasing Walt Disney World and operating it with an arrangement similar to how the Oriental Land Company owns and operates the Tokyo Disney Resort: Disney collects huge royalties while washing its hands of dealing with operations.

 
 
 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-06 07:15:14

Ah, the mystical soft landing thing again. Heck, our boyz are the masters of the game - and see how well they did. These guys are pikers and they’ll pull off what our boyz couldn’t?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:04:54

“In China, the potential cost of both action and inaction is economic collapse.”

Isn’t that the normal aftermath of a credit bubble?

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:07:31

“Once lending is cut off, property prices will stop appreciating (and likely collapse — that is what usually happens in a Ponzi scheme).”

Boy does this sound familiar!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:12:15

So does this mean that the Chinese will do their own QE? I’m beginning to think that we might survive simply because we suck less than everyone else.

Comment by kirisdad
2011-07-06 10:06:57

+1 It’s a race to the bottom.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 10:28:22

I’m beginning to think that we might survive simply because we suck less than everyone else.

As loath as I am to agree with this statement, I simply have to.

Not that I’m a world traveler who can easily compare this country to dozens of others that I’ve visited. But I just can’t help thinking that before too long, the USA will be known as the comeback kid of countries.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 11:45:55

As loath as I am to agree with this statement, I simply have to.

I could see it. Just curious, in the 30s did Germany suck less than everyone else around them? Maybe not a good comparison, since they were starting from a low place rather than a high place relative to their peers.

Just asking because I’ve assumed all these years that as times got tougher we would have to reduce our military commitments. But is it possible we might double down instead? Wait we already did that…quadruple down maybe?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 12:11:29

I could see it. Just curious, in the 30s did Germany suck less than everyone else around them?

They did have one advantage … they were Germans.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 12:15:13

They did have one advantage … they were Germans.

Speaking as someone who’s partially of German descent, there’s more than a bit of truth to that. You talk about ethnic pride, well, German pride is uber pride.

To the point where there’s a serious case of Germanic envy in mine own house. My mother’s the one with the German background.

Dad? Well, sorry, buddy, you’re just a Celt with possibly some English thrown into the mix. (Who knows who our Cornish, Irish and Scottish ancestors were dallying around with. When it comes to love, Celts aren’t choosy.)

Any-hoo, when I was growing up, Dad made quite an effort to learn German. And identify with Germans. It was to the point where…

…we should have sewn him a kilt with the German eagle on it.

 
Comment by frankie
2011-07-06 15:45:03

I think you might find you have Germanic DNA from both sides of your family

“Forget two world wars and one World Cup… geneticists reveal 50 per cent of Britons are GERMAN

Shared gene stems from Germanic tribesmen who first came ashore on the Kent coast in 449AD
Up to 200,000 believed to have crossed the North Sea to Britain, pillaging and raping after Romans left”

http://m.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2005829/Half-Britons-German-blood-geneticists-reveal.html

 
Comment by frankie
2011-07-06 15:55:25

May be of interest to In Colorado

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/NAZI-GERMANY_life_and_hardships

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/Nazi-dog-days.pdf

I think, it was a case of desperate people do desperate things.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:38:11

To me, it’s clear that the war repatriations Germany was forced to repay from WWI were deliberately onerous and excessively punitive.

One could easily make the case that it was the international bankers of that time that caused the Nazis to be created and accepted.

 
 
Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 11:19:25

Yeah. As bad a postion as we’ve put ourselves in, the rest of the world is worse.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:41:31

No, not really. Maybe you’ve missed the reports from Brazil or the fact that not all of the countries of the EU are doing badly and that China has very solid trade with the EU and South America: a market total far larger than just us.

The article reeks of spin to counter any recognition and understanding by J6P of just how bad it REALLY it is here.

 
 
Comment by BKKObserver
2011-07-06 20:07:24

Unfortunately, we suck more than 20 or so of countries as far as JP’s quality of life is concerned, and especially in relation to health care.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-06 08:13:53

“While food inflation the US can mean fewer trips to restaurants or no summer vacation, food inflation in China leads to hunger.”

The author appears to make the assumption Americans don’t already go hungry. The dude really needs to check the numbers at the public schools for how many get lunch assistance. It’s a travesty.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 09:11:51

The numbers are indeed staggering. Even in our relatively prosperous burg about 25% of all students qualify for a subsidized school breakfast and lunch. Were these programs to disappear as people like Miss Bachmann would love to see happen then we would see a very different country before us.

Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 10:45:44

I dislike the idea of people going hungry, but I resent pay for junk food on the SNAP cards.Also steak and lobster. As I understand it, WIC only pays for certain items, for instance specific ceral not all cereal. Why can’t the same be done with SNAP?

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Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 11:20:56

The question isn’t CAN it be done, it’s how much does it cost to do it? I don’t know the answer.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 12:38:27

Well, it would be simple enough to disallow candy and such. Aat one time soda wasn’t on the approved lisst. And if the junk were removed, the allotment could be reduced. Aftetr all the S in SNAP stands for supplemental. so it sounds to me as if it wasn’t intended to cover all the food just part.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-06 12:56:58

“it would be simple enough to disallow candy and such. Aat one time soda wasn’t on the approved lisst.”

Disallow candy? What are you, the Anti-Wonka? Seriously though, do you believe that Monsanto, Kraft and the other giants would let anyone do that?

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 13:51:57

Probably not

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 15:52:19

Wolf:

That would be just as bad….a better idea is to segment say $50 a month for fresh fruits and veggies…if you don’t use it you lose it.

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And if the junk were removed, the allotment could be reduced

 
 
 
Comment by drumminj
2011-07-06 09:43:58

for how many get lunch assistance.

I’m curious to know the details here. Just because one “qualifies” doesn’t mean they’d go hungry without it. It could be that the standards are very low to qualify…

Do you know the details in your area? What percentage of those who qualify, if their parents cut out TV, movies, cable, netflix, cell phones, xbox, eating out, etc, would actually go hungry?

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 10:00:24

What percentage of those who qualify, if their parents cut out TV, movies, cable, netflix, cell phones, xbox, eating out, etc, would actually go hungry?

More than you know. This article is about the middle-class cutting way back. The poor? Well, let’s just say they ain’t livin’ large as it seems you may be implying. But why would you imply that?

New breed of Americans going hungry

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-05-10-new-face-of-hunger-food-assistance_n.htm

The recession may officially be over, but Sonia Cruz of Issaquah, Wash., a suburb of Seattle, still finds herself having to say “no” to many things.

No to the kids’ request to go to the movies with friends. No to $1 Redbox movies. And definitely no to those trips to Cold Stone Creamery for ice cream.

“There’s no way we can afford that anymore,” she says.

Cutting back became a necessity for many American families during and after the recession. But what the Cruz family and a growing number of other once-thriving middle-class families didn’t expect was to find themselves qualifying for — and needing — the support of federally funded food assistance programs.

After job losses, home foreclosures, mounting debt and bills some can no longer afford to pay, families such as theirs have become part of the new face of hunger in America.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 10:54:54

After job losses, home foreclosures, mounting debt and bills some can no longer afford to pay, families such as theirs have become part of the new face of hunger in America.

Eliminate the minimum wage!, extend $hrub’s wealthie$ tax gift policy!…go backward$, it’ll lead all Americans to the “TruePathtoProsperity™”

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:00:49

But what the Cruz family and a growing number of other once-thriving middle-class families didn’t expect was to find themselves qualifying for — and needing — the support of federally funded food assistance programs.

I know more than a few familes in this very boat. Good job went poof, new job pays a pittance and now they are on food stamps, a program many of them derided when things were going well for them. Now all of a sudden THEY are the welfare Queens.

 
Comment by measton
2011-07-06 12:10:58

And if these programs didn’t exist they would quicky become criminals and protest the gov.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-06 17:08:21

From the article:
“Harrell, 58, has been jobless for more than two years and exhausted the full 99 weeks of state and federal unemployment benefits available to her, putting her in the unhappy category dubbed “99ers” by the jobless themselves. There are no programs for people like her who have used up all available benefits.

After earning as much as $60,000 a year, Harrell was laid off from her telecommunications job in 2005 and then, in April 2009, from a part-time bookkeeping job. She says she has gone through her savings and 401(k) retirement plan. She’s lost her home, her car and health insurance, and filed for bankruptcy. That was while drawing a $260-a-week unemployment check; now that is gone as well. She recently signed up for food stamps.

Harrell sees signs the job outlook improving, particularly for low-paying jobs. However, she says few people seem interested in hiring someone her age, despite legal prohibitions on age discrimination.

“They look at me and say, ‘How long are you really going to work?’ That’s about as close as you can get” to age discrimination, she says.”

4 years till she can collect Social Security. 7 till Medicare. Savings and 401K gone. If she started her career in telecommunications at a young age, there was only one telecommunications company and you were set for life if you landed such a job. Nobody would have guessed in 1970 that it would be a bad bet.

It will be OK though. The Republicans’ job creation plan will take care of her. And she can get a federal loan to retrain for her new career.

 
 
Comment by mikeinbend
2011-07-06 10:08:41

150/400 students at wife’s lunch lady job are on free and reduced lunches. It is easy to qualify assuming you make an average income; and many central Oregonians make less than 40k per year as a family.

It is too bad that kids get fed by the government in the cases where parents could feed the kids by practicing austerity in their own homes. But some are so poor that the school is the only place the kid gets reliable nutrition.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:44:50

A family living on 40K or less IS austerity.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 10:57:14

“It could be that the standards are very low to qualify…”

When I was briefly unemployed I looked into this. Needless to say my kids didn’t qualify. Also, the paperwork was huge.

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-07-06 13:45:09

Corporate America gives sub-standard wages and the Government has to fill in the gaps and kept people from starving
by food stamps in spite of them working .

A system that ends up resulting in the Government being the pawn for Corporate America ,or any special interest group ,is a system that has failed to be a Government for the People and by the People . We had a nice balance of power in this Country for many years ,but that was demolished .

Capitalism is no longer a operative system in this Country . Capitalism would of brought down all prices in sink with wages based on supply and demand and true competition ,not World wide competition and price fixing Monopolies determining prices .

Wages going down ,but prices going up ……think breakdown of the proper functioning of a system in favor of
special interest groups that have taken over the Politicians .

All we got was bail-outs of the culprits ,obstruction of justice ,a further lowering of taxes of the the class that benefited the most by the faulty demise of our functioning systems for so many years ,more outsourcing ,and less tax base from the classes that benefited the most by the demise of the systems that were more favorable to the masses .

Now its just someone has to pay ,and it has to be the
people ,never mind going back to a functional system and putting the Powers back in their proper place .

 
Comment by Kirisdad
2011-07-06 16:00:56

Kudos Wiz, I agree 100%.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 16:21:46

Kudos Wiz, I agree 100%.

yup

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 18:24:37

Capitalism is no longer a operative system in this Country . Capitali$m would of brought down all prices in sink with wage$ based on $upply and demand and true competition$, not World wide competition$ and price fixing Monopolie$ determining price$ .

Go Mr. Bear,… tell ‘em where the Wizard has it dead wrong$.
Bring up all those “Free-Market” self-rightitude$, like the keel on a $ail-boat, countering the wind$ of change. eCONomic$, as practice at Goldenman$ucks, the be$t, the Brighte$t, the fewe$t, the Cho$en one$…

In today’s new$, everyone get$ what they’ve a$ked for…moving on to the weather forecast…

 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:43:25

There are MANY people who think starvation in America is just a myth and health insurance companies don’t routinely condemn people to death.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 09:07:42

loans grew over 30% a year over the last few years — and inflation is rising fast.

Sounds a bit like Brazil.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:37:54

China has worse problems than their debt structure.

Orszag: Why We Care About Price of Water in China (bloomibergi)

“According to the World Bank, the amount of water per capita in China is only one-quarter of the global average. Furthermore, about 80 percent of the total supply is south of the Yangtze River, while only about half the Chinese population lives there. So the north is chronically short. The North China plain, which encompasses both Shanghai and Beijing, contains more than 40 percent of the national population, but less than 15 percent of the water. In this region, the per-capita amount is only about one-quarter the level considered the minimum for people to live on.

In addition to these challenges, there is a severe drought this year, which is the worst in half a century, according to some estimates. Rainfall is 40 percent to 60 percent lower than normal, which means less power from hydroelectric dams and too little water to support some coal-fired plants. The Chinese have, therefore, had to lean more heavily on diesel generators to help power the electricity grid. That, in turn, has led officials to ban exports of diesel fuel.

And that raises costs for the trucker on I-95. ”

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Yikes. I’m waiting for the day that China sez to us: “Never mind the Treasuries you owe us. In exchange, we’ll gladly take ailing Michigan off your hands. Both the Mitten and the Yoop, if you please.”

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:49:26

China is buying and moving OUR solar and wind factories as fast as we can build them.

 
 
Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:13:03

Oh look, economic collapse is in the cards for EVERyone. Don’t feel left out kids, we can all be destoryed. It’s fun!

Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:30:32

destoryed = destroyed.

Although becoming destoryed may happen to many of us as well. I think it’s akin to being disillusioned.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 04:51:33

Houses that get medieval on your patootie:

http://theweek.com/article/index/216802/homes-with-medieval-flair-a-slideshow

They cost millions, but at least you feel like the people who built it were real craftman and not the help du jour from the Sherwin Williams parking lot.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 16:52:43

Slideshow no worky in FireFox.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 05:00:48

Casey Anthony trial over, thank goodness. The media must be p-o’d at the not guilty verdict, because now there’s no appeal or sentencing to cover. They’ll have to go back to reporting news. :sad:

Comment by Montana
2011-07-06 05:56:19

gee I missewd the whole thing. Guess I’m doing something right.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 06:19:29

Best guess is she will be pregnant in a year. And with an abusive and or party boi baby daddy.

 
Comment by palmetto
2011-07-06 06:28:04

If you think the coverage was obnoxious in your neck of the woods, try being in Florida where it was all Casey, all the time, Florida’s bush league answer to OJ. But, the jury did its duty. Although if I was Casey, I’d be off to parts unknown real fast. With some major plastic surgery and a whole new identity. Her life’s not worth a plug nickel.

 
Comment by michael
2011-07-06 07:03:08

the irony is…the same people that vilify her are the same ones that will “tune in” to make her rich.

people who don’t really care about the verdict are the same one’s that aren’t gonna care about her “book” or “story” or “made for TV movie”.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 07:16:53

Self-control, indeed a rare commodity in America.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-06 07:17:57

Our society appears to be obsessed with anything that doesn’t involve reality (read: work).

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 12:47:18

A book and movie to join my list of never read/watch. I haven’t really followed this kind of story since Susan Smith drowned her kids in the mid90’s. That was because it happened about 50 miles from where I live. At one time my boss would tell me that I was craxy. I’d reply “But all my kids are alive.” He would just shake his head at me.

 
Comment by Montana
2011-07-06 14:37:12

Must have been a cable/satellite TV phenom.

 
 
Comment by CrackerBob
2011-07-06 07:47:01

Good, it’s over; let us never speak of it again. Let’s talk about something real, like how the housing market has finally bottomed and is on the way back up to 2007. Phew!

 
Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:32:23

Man, that chick has got to be guilty of something. I wonder if we’ll ever find out what really happened.

 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-07-06 05:02:56

May I suggest a little jalapeno for the chafe….

Banks chafe at pay clawbacks in liquidation plan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Banks and other large financial companies that could be seized and liquidated by the government are balking at a proposed plan they argue gives regulators too much power to snatch back executives’ pay if their institutions fail.

“Vague and arguably unfair provisions would create powerful incentives for senior executives and directors with the best options to head for the exits at the first sign of trouble, lest a substantial portion of their compensation be at risk,” top banking groups including the American Bankers Association, The Clearing House and the Financial Services Roundtable wrote regulators in May.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Banks-chafe-at-pay-clawbacks-rb-4224701934.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=9&asset=&ccode=

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 05:41:00

“Banks chafe at pay clawbacks in liquidation plan”

Would you like some prison time with your jalapeno rub?

Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:37:38

You and me could start a business, PB. We could do a service where we help ex-banksters escape from prison in suitcases. We could charge like a percentage of the bankster’s lifetime pay. Whaddya say?

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-06 05:51:45

These incompetent fools gain control of a bank and destroy its finances and then these “top banking groups” complain because these incompetent fool may jump ship?

Lol.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-06 06:24:44

Incompetent? Not at all. They are/were calculating thieves who looted their banks and left the empty shells for the FDIC (us) to clean up.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-06 06:37:02

These incompetent fools could have had it all if they weren’t such fools. They could have held back while their fool competitors destroyed their own banks. Then, because they wouuld be the last ones standing they could have stepped in and cleaned up at pennies on the dollar.

But, no, they had to bust out their banks just as the other fools did.

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 07:21:09

Unfortunately, the publicly-owned fools are dictated by their stockholders to Hit The Numbers, quarterly. Those banks couldn’t hold back from joining the rat race anymore than they could hold back from buying pets.bomb.

I suspect that many privately owned fortunes are holding back exactly as you advise. And if you’re a private company with lots of money overseas, but with enough dollars left over to purchase a Senator or two, you can even manipulate your private fortune to conincide with a repatriation tax holiday.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 09:31:02

the publicly-owned fools are dictated by their stockholders to Hit The Numbers, quarterly. Those banks couldn’t hold back from joining the rat race anymore than they could hold back from buying pets.bomb.

This is a proof that simply “creating shareholder value” is not always in the interest of the company or even countries and societies. As we’ve seen, unregulated, cowboy/crony capitalism can consume itself leaving regular people to pay the bill of the rich.

Simpleton, shill for the rich and deregulation pusher Milton Friedman preached his whole life that a company’s sole mission was to “create profit” and needs not be regulated. Well if we thought about the above two “paragraphs” in context of what happened to our economy and failed companies needing to be bailed out because of their reckless attempt to create shareholder value we see that Milton Friedman’s and the Chicago School of Economics’ simple-minded philosophies of “greed is always good” and “companies can self regulate” are lacking conceptually in how the economic world really works.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 10:49:58

“companies can $elf regulate” ;-)

“They” can, “they” do,…in a myopic, sadi$tic, $ociopathic, Indemnified $anctuary. Their $treet location name escapes me, the memory clue tag is something about or something between their 1.00356% lives & the rest of America,…brick, cement,…dang it, I almo$t had it.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:06:12

see that Milton Friedman’s and the Chicago School of Economics’ simple-minded philosophies of “greed is always good” and “companies can self regulate” are lacking conceptually in how the economic world really works

And that the invisble hand can be easily shackled.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 17:06:50

These days, the BOD are the majority stockholders, not some “faceless” outside investors.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 07:02:56

Filed under: “We’re $marter than you!” & “Where’s the puni$hment?”

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 17:08:27

May I suggest a little jalapeno for the chafe….

You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 05:03:57

“I’m a very responsible woman and I don’t think it’s fair to be treated this way by the bank,” she said. “If we signed an agreement, how can I be going through all this?”

If we signed an agreement? Pay no attention to the first agreement I signed, that one doesn’t count.

Why doesn’t it count?

Because “I’m a very responsible woman and I don’t think it’s fair to be treated this way by the bank,”

Borrowers sue over apparent loan mod mishaps

By JACOB ADELMAN
Associated Press
Tuesday, July 5, 2011 at 5:03 AM

LOS ANGELES —
It seemed Maria Campusano’s financial problems were behind her when the mortgage on her Victorian home in a Massachusetts mill town was chopped by hundreds of dollars a month.

Campusano’s problems began when she sought to modify a loan she refinanced years earlier to finish repairs to her Victorian-style home in Lawrence, Mass.

The 44-year-old single mother said she wanted to reduce her housing expenses because she was about to begin repaying a graduate school loan and had recently taken in a niece and nephew after the death of her sister.

“How can they take away what I have worked so hard for?” Campusano said.

Julie Lewis, a 53-year-old mother of four, modified her contract with CitiMortgage Inc. for her Staten Island, N.Y. home after getting a divorce and suffering injuries in a car wreck that kept her from working.

“I’m a very responsible woman and I don’t think it’s fair to be treated this way by the bank,” she said. “If we signed an agreement, how can I be going through all this?”

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2015511646_apusloanmodlawsuits.html?syndication=rss - -

Comment by 2banana
2011-07-06 05:51:23

Wow - this article has it all.

Single mothers
Deaths
Medical Expenses
Starting repaying Student Loans (at 44!!!!!)
Victorian Houses
Defaults
Loan modifications
Housing rehabs/fixer-uppers
Evil banks
etc.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:14:59

And a galactic sense of entitlement, as always.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-06 09:38:57

“repaying student loans (at 44!!!!!!!)”

You must not have received the memo. We’re all supposed to start “retraining”, so our skill set matches all of the unfilled/new job openings.

Makes perfect sense to me. I know several people doing this. Take out $50K worth of school loans in your 40s-50s, so you can start at the bottom of a completely new field, and work for another 10-15 years max, if you are lucky.

Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 10:54:28

I saw that memo. Why would I want to go back top school except learn something I’m interested in? Any field that “they” claim will need a lot of people is the one everyone will flock to.

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Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:40:36

Are they becoming nurses?

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Comment by CrackerBob
2011-07-06 07:50:22

Yes, always the “single-mother”. If she did not want to be a good obedient house-wife, then she should not have had intercourse with a man.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:14:42

Haven’t we reched the point where the majority of children are being raised by a single mother?

 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-07-06 08:37:46

This is what I think has people so upset about same sex marriage in NY. The law doesn’t specify gays. And those non-gay women willing to live without sex might just say to heck with guys and marry each other.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 10:31:40

ISTR reading that during the 1800s, such arrangements were called Boston Marriages. The partners weren’t always what we moderns would call lesbians, but, then again, they weren’t exactly interested in men.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 08:49:54

“Julie Lewis, a 53-year-old mother of four,”

Four what, mortgages?

She`s 53, how old is the GD baby of the family, 20? I am sure the 3 older kids are off defaulting on their own student loans by now and having their own little foreclosures.

Comment by polly
2011-07-06 09:23:59

Because women over 33 never have babies?

Comment by kirisdad
2011-07-06 10:33:46

Jeff lives in FL. They start young down south. Grandmas by 39.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 11:25:57

My mom was 40 when I was born and my wife was 29, 32 and 36 when our 3 kids were born. I am 2 years older than my wife. However, most of the men and women I have known… family, friends, parents of kids our kids went to school with and well over a hundred sets of parents from coaching little league for years were done having kids by the age of 33. In fact I don`t remember one 53 year with a 5 or 6 year old kid in T Ball, 8 and under, 10 and under or 12 and under.

But OK, for argument sake I will assume that Julie Lewis, the 53-year-old mother of four has a 5 year old and an 8 year old. From what we’ve been through with a couple of our kids I would have rather bought in 2005 and be crying about a mortgage mod.

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Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-06 11:09:18

When i was 53, my youngest was 15 and my oldest 21.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 11:32:49

“When i was 53, my youngest was 15 and my oldest 21.”

That is where I will be next year.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 05:38:56

Best way to pave the path for a future financial crisis, where Wall Street pirates get to screw the rest of US:

CONVINCE EVERYONE IT IS INEVITABLE, AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING!

Brett Arends’ ROI Archives
July 6, 2011, 12:01 a.m. EDT
The next, worse financial crisis
Commentary: Ten reasons why we are doomed to repeat 2008
By Brett Arends, MarketWatch

BOSTON (MarketWatch) — The last financial crisis isn’t over, but we might as well start getting ready for the next one.

Sorry to be gloomy, but there it is.

Why? Here are 10 reasons.

1. We are learning the wrong lessons from the last one. Was the housing bubble really caused by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, Bill Clinton, “liberals” and so on? That’s what a growing army of people now claim. There’s just one problem. If so, then how come there was a gigantic housing bubble in Spain as well? Did Barney Frank cause that too (and while in the minority in Congress, no less!)? If so, how? And what about the giant housing bubbles in Ireland, the U.K., and Australia? All Barney Frank? And the ones across Eastern Europe, and elsewhere? I’d laugh, but tens of millions are being suckered into this piece of spin, which is being pushed in order to provide cover so the real culprits can get away. And it’s working.

2. No one has been punished. Executives like Dick Fuld at Lehman Brothers and Angelo Mozilo at Countrywide , along with many others, cashed out hundreds of millions of dollars before the ship crashed into the rocks. Predatory lenders and crooked mortgage lenders walked away with millions in ill-gotten gains. But they aren’t in jail. They aren’t even under criminal prosecution. They got away, scot free. As a general rule, the worse you behaved from 2000 to 2008, the better you’ve been treated. And so the next crowd will do it again. Guaranteed.

3. The incentives remain crooked. People outside finance — from respected political pundits like George Will to normal people on Main Street — still don’t fully get this. Wall Street rules aren’t like Main Street rules. The guy running a Wall Street bank isn’t in the same “risk/reward” situation as a guy running, say, a dry-cleaning shop. Take all our mental images of traditional American free-market enterprise and put them to one side. This is totally different. For the people on Wall Street, it’s a case of heads they win, tails they get to flip again. Thanks to restricted stock, options, the bonus game, securitization, 2-and-20 fee structures, insider stock sales, “too big to fail,” and limited liability, they are paid to take reckless risks, and they lose little — or nothing — if things go wrong.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-07-06 06:03:37

OK, so how does this add up?

‘how come there was a gigantic housing bubble in Spain as well? And what about the giant housing bubbles in Ireland, the U.K., and Australia? And the ones across Eastern Europe, and elsewhere?’

Then this:

’so the real culprits can get away’

I’m all for learning lessons about the housing bubble. But this guy looks like he’s playing the same blame game with an axe to grind. I’ve been as critical of Wall Street as anyone, but let’s turn this around a bit. Did Goldman Sachs “cause” the housing bubbles in all those other countries? What about the raging manias going on right now in China or Canada?

IMO, what’s wrong about Wall Street has always been wrong. An insiders deal with the central bank that allows them to use the currency we all work so hard for like it’s monopoly money. Let’s put an end to it. But let’s not oversimplify it regarding the housing bubble. There is plenty of blame to go around, including Barney Frank and the people in DC, and the speculator who just walked away from the house down the street.

I prefer to think of this differently. Who caused the tulip bubble? The south seas bubble? The Florida bubble of the 20’s? Does it really matter? The lesson future generations should gain is don’t fall for get rich quick manias, or it’s gonna hurt.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:19:06

An insiders deal with the central bank that allows them to use the currency we all work so hard for like it’s monopoly money. Let’s put an end to it.

A minor correction: the Fed, a private entity, is not a central bank. Which makes it even less accountable and transparent. But concur 100% that we need to do away with it and end the Federal Reserve-Wall Street looting syndicate that has destroyed 95% of the US dollar’s value since it’s founding in 1913.

Highly suggest reading Ron Paul’s “End the Fed.”

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-06 06:33:41

Highly suggest carrying out Ron Paul’s “End The Fed”.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 09:44:57

How is the Fed a private company?

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Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:46:17

By being a private company.

 
Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:49:38

OK, OK, I’ll be less sarcastic.

The Federal Reserve Bank is a private corporation, which is in the business of lending money to lenders. It has a “public-private” partnership with the US government, which is really just a form of socialism. It is even more corrupt and dumb than Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The Federal Reserve’s value is represented by private stock, and the executives of the company are paid a salary in addition to being paid in shares.

The organization, like all companies, is incentivized by profit. That’s why it says over and over again that it will do everything in its power to prevent a collapse of the “banking system”. Because the THEY are the one entity that skims allllll the money off the top of that system. If the “system” were to collapse, then the Federal Reserve would not be paid back, and they would stop making a profit.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 14:41:03

It is even more corrupt and dumb than Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The Fed may be corrupt, but “dumb” it is not. It is diabolically brilliant when it comes to engineering the kleptocracy’s financial warfare against the middle and working classes in this country.

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 15:10:57

According to Wikipedia, the Fed is non-profit:

The Federal Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the system. The stock may not be sold or traded or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, limited to 6 percent per year.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:28:56
 
Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 16:08:02

I don’t know if they’re classified as a nonprofit organization, but nonprofits actually do work for profit. Yes, I can see how a person might be confused by that. After all, the term implies a lack of profit, but that is not what it actually means. It has something to do with taxes, but they all work for a profit.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 16:24:42

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-06/lehman-borrowed-18-billion-from-undisclosed-fed-program-during-08-crisis.html

How many more undisclosed Fed programs are pouring countless billions into banker coffers to cover their gambling losses?

Audit the Fed. Then end it.

 
 
 
Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 08:03:08

Well to some extant the finance game is international. I certaily would argue that the Spanish RE bubble has it roots in London. Spain is to “the city” as Florida is to Wall Street. Of course the Great depression was international in scope as well.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:15:00

“Spanish RE bubble”

Interesting coincidence:

Did you notice that some of the frothiest housing markets in the U.S. are located in former Spanish colonies (FL & CA)?

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Comment by yensoy
2011-07-06 09:00:32

Not entirely a coincidence.

Historically, the most “effective” colonizers were those countries that had profligate spending habits and had amassed huge debts with the Arabs, Indians and Chinese (particularly the last). Colonialism was encouraged by the crown to explore ways to loot wealth to pay down this debt, and then it took a life of its own. The rest is history.

That’s one reason why the prudent Germans (Austrians and Swiss) sucked at colonialism.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-06 20:34:41

The Euros discovered America because they were looking for trade routes to India and China that didn’t involve the Arabs or Turks as middlemen. Spain, Portugal, and England were the major seafaring nations of the time, and therefore discovered and colonized most of the Americas first (initially thinking they’d landed in Asia/India).

What is today Germany, Switzerland, and Austria (the latter two being completely landlocked) were not major seafaring nations, and therefore did little overseas colonizing.

 
 
 
Comment by measton
2011-07-06 08:05:02

“”" Did Goldman Sachs “cause” the housing bubbles in all those other countries? “”"

I suspect GS or the like did cause the problems in all of those other countries. We know they were instrumental in helping the Greek gov hide it’s debt problems. They likely have advised others. Securitization allowed them to sell crapy loans all over the globe thus reducing the cost and oversite/quality of credit. Then there was the false sense of security created by AIG type insurance/ credit default swaps which couldn’t stand up in a collapse/ and of course our bought and paid for credit rating agencies. These things created by the GS’s of the world are directly responsible for the global credit bubble. The author is correct in saying CRA did not play a major roll, freddie and fannie were not the cause they were part of the plan by GS and others to off load risk onto the US tax payer. Just like securitization was part of their plan.

Agree strongly that they and others like them have control or at the very least an insider track to the central banks of the world.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:12:46

“An insiders deal with the central bank that allows them to use the currency we all work so hard for like it’s monopoly money. Let’s put an end to it.”

Bingo. Plus a central bank which acts as though the law allows them to use their printing press technology as a means of levying an inflation tax on the populace, with Wall Street as the primary beneficiary.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 08:19:06

If manias are perhaps a part of the human condition that cannot be prevented, at least the size and scope should not be enabled the way this one has been. Globalization & huge central government were not to our benefit.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 09:51:51

If manias are perhaps a part of the human condition that cannot be prevented, at least the size and scope should not be enabled the way this one has been.

The housing bubble was prevented for 70 years with proper financial regulation. After the banking regulations were dismantled (1980-2000) the housing bubble took off. This is historical fact.

Globalization & huge central government were not to our benefit.

I agree however proper bank regulation need not require a huge central government and a huge central government does not necessarily lead to proper banking regulation. They are different issues and should not be constantly equated.

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Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 11:32:25

Admittedly, it’s difficult to predict where the next bubble will be. But I think that the illusion that we had figured out how to create “the great moderation” ensured that leverage and credit would increase until we had a crash. People’s willingness to take on greater risk is part of the reason that there was greater and greater efforts to reduce controls that prevented it.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 11:38:45

If you take the big mania as part of the human generational cycle, then maybe the regulations weren’t it afterall. It is clear that when the living memory of the previous crash was gone, we cast off the regulations with abandon. Regs are only useful so long as someone remembers why they are there.

If however, we did not manage things so o verwhelmingly centrally, then distortions might not be so global. My point about the big government is that their errors have collosal impacts.

 
Comment by measton
2011-07-06 12:18:52

“”"People’s willingness to take on greater risk is part of the reason that there was greater and greater efforts to reduce controls that prevented it.”"”

In most cases they were not willing they were lied to.

1. Rating agencies
2. Banks - creating complicated MBS, GS was shorting MBS it was selling.
3. Realtors
4. Politicians and regulators bought and paid for by the above.
5. MSM

The money for this bubble would not have been there without securitization the rating agencies etc.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 12:27:06

If you take the big mania as part of the human generational cycle, then maybe the regulations weren’t it afterall. It is clear that when the living memory of the previous crash was gone, we cast off the regulations with abandon. Regs are only useful so long as someone remembers why they are there.

Then we can’t say the regulations “weren’t it” when the regulations were, as you said, “cast off” before the credit/housing bubble started.

The regulations were there for 70 years of no credit/housing bubble.
The regulations were not there when we had the bubbles.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:20:42

“…then maybe the regulations weren’t it afterall”

Dams & valves!… or is it… “Damn this valve”?

Wall $t. “person”:

“What’s down-stream?”
Answer: “you’re bonu$”

“OK then, any other que$tions?”

I thought not… ;-)

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 13:51:36

OK HWY, I don’t understand your response. My point is a whole generation forgot to keep the dog on a chain.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:20:37

OK HWY, I don’t understand your response.

Hard to $ign on to the mania iffin’ you’re handcuffed to your wife $ignificant other real estate agent bil real estate agent sil real estate agent grand-parents banker cousin best friend-for-life-who-happens-to dwaddle-in-RE someone-you-just-meet-at-1am-karoke-who-just-happens-to-b-also-drunk…common-$ense. :-)

“Run Hwy!, run…”

 
 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 09:40:38

this guy looks like he’s playing the same blame game with an axe to grind.

Maybe so, but I think he has to play the same game and play it harder because the other side is winning the game with a case built on lies, twisting of the facts and ignoring of other facts. And the pro-banker side surely has an axe to grind.

From the article:
We are learning the wrong lessons from the last one. Was the housing bubble really caused by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, Bill Clinton, “liberals” and so on? That’s what a growing army of people now claim

….I’d laugh, but tens of millions are being suckered into this piece of spin, which is being pushed in order to provide cover so the real culprits can get away. And it’s working.

 
 
Comment by Big V
2011-07-06 13:43:54

I didn’t read the article, but I don’t remember what happened in 2008 anyway. Can you repeat the question?

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 05:49:15

U.S. Farmland Boom May Peak After 5-Year Surge (Bloomibergi)

By Jeff Wilson - Jul 6, 2011 12:00 AM ET inShare0More

A five-year bull market in U.S. farmland values may peak this year as interest rates increase and crop prices decline, Rabobank International said.

Land costs may fall by as much as 15 percent in the next seven years, Sterling Liddell and Vernon Crowder, vice presidents at the bank, said in an interview. Gains in the past five years ranging from as much as from 70 percent in Nebraska to 20 percent in California were spurred by record grain and livestock prices and the lowest borrowing costs ever, Rabobank said in a report released today…

…Farmland values in parts of 12 central U.S. states were as much as 23 percent higher than a year earlier by the end of March, according to data from the Federal Reserve in Chicago and Kansas City. That may not be the peak, Rabobank said.

“We are in a period of continued price volatility, and we may see additional price spikes,” Liddell, a vice president for food and agribusiness research at Rabo AgriFinance in St. Louis, said in the interview. This year, farmers were hit with flooding in some areas and drought in others, and until the crop is harvested, there may be swings in agricultural prices,” he said.

The gains in the value of farmland outpaced the expansion in debt, driving debt-to-asset ratios near record lows. The trend in the debt-to-value ratio suggests lenders have been “conservative” and the highest-ever farm income means there should be enough money to service the debt, Liddell of Rabobank said.

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Floods in some areas and drought in others… it rather surprises me that there there isn’t the infrastructure to pipe fresh water from state to state. They do it with natural gas.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 05:59:20

“This year, farmers were hit with flooding in some areas…”

Underwater farmland ain’t all that any more. This year is reminiscent of the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, which wiped out some of my ancestors (their town basically was washed off the map).

And the farmland bubble is also reminiscent of the 1920s. A good banking crisis seems to always start with a crazy lending bubble; after a few years of good honest people making payments on their debt obligations, the bubble pops, and the greed pigs of Wall Street start snapping up defaulted collateral at fire sale prices.

It happened in the U.S. Heartland during the 1930s, and I see no reason it will be different this time.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 07:52:51

Dominoes. Chinese peasants hoarding ingots of copper. Goldman hoarding tankers of oil and Detroit aluminum. Amish overpaying for farmland. Who wants to play?

Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 08:07:07

Got a link for the Amish overpaying for farmland? That sounds interesting. I’ve never seen an Amish person walk into BoA for a I/O loan…

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:21:46

Good time to be a land owner; bad time to be a buyer.

I would advise my BIL and Lil’ Sis to sell the large acreage of land they own in the heartland before the farmland bubble pops, but I have already learned by now that sharing my sage advise with them is a waste of breath.

Johnson County looks at greenhouse rules to help Amish farmers
June 17, 2011, 11:37 am
By Gregg Hennigan/SourceMedia Group News

UPDATED 11:35 a.m. with comment from Washington County

IOWA CITY – Johnson County’s supervisors said Friday they want to exempt greenhouses from building codes to help Amish farmers.

The issue came up because Amish farming less than 40 acres were being denied building permits by the county for greenhouses and hoop buildings.

In Johnson County, farms are exempt from building codes, but a farm is defined as a property of 40 acres or more used for agricultural purposes, said Rick Dvorak, Johnson County’s planning and zoning administrator.

Mervin Ropp, an Amish farmer in southern Johnson County, said Amish farms traditionally are larger than 40 acres, but with land prices going up, more are getting smaller.

 
Comment by SUGuy
2011-07-06 09:42:51

I have Amish franchises in Oxford PA. They are the most honest, decent, caring, loving, respectable group of individual I have had the privilege to work with and visit their farms and meet family members. Amish people I know are in the construction industry and did really well financially. I speak to my Amish business friend on the phone that is hooked up to a small shack at the edge of his farm. I had many questions about their lifestyle and my Amish friend recommended this book. It is a good book to read about the Amish culture. The Amish will have no trouble surviving this economic crisis. I really don’t think they know about it or care much about it either.

The Riddle of Amish Culture.

http://www.amazon.com/Riddle-Culture-Center-Anabaptist-Studies/dp/080186772X

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:47:27

“They want to use the greenhouses to grow plants and vegetables to sell, but some have been denied permits because county inspectors weren’t satisfied the structures met wind- and snow-load rates.

No one at Friday’s meeting suggested the buildings were unsafe.”

If they weren’t unsafe, then how does it violate code? And how hard can it be to build a plastic tent (a hoop house) to code?

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 09:55:18

They are loving up to the point a family member decides to leave. Then they shun them.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:59:33

Here’s a snippet of an Amazon review on the Amish book:

“And what is even more amazing is that there are many more Amish today than there were 50 years ago; unlike the Shakers, this sect is thriving.”

Apparently this reviewer doesn’t know the first thing about the Shakers…

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 10:35:40

They are loving up to the point a family member decides to leave. Then they shun them.

Which happened to a friend of mine.

He’s no longer Amish, and there are members of his family who shun him to this day. Likewise, his non-Amish wife, who’s a real sweetheart.

And why did he decide to leave the Amish community? Because he wanted to go to high school. Then, after high school, he joined the Navy. Where he learned how to use computers. Nowadays, he and the wife are computer programmers.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 10:38:14

but I have already learned by now that sharing my sage advise with them is a waste of breath.

Mrs. Robinson’s 2011 late summer veranda dinner party: (whispering) “plastic$” “$torage”… ;-)

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:11:27

Apparently this reviewer doesn’t know the first thing about the Shakers…

Celibacy is not hereditary.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 11:29:06

Oxide, first hand observation, real close up. There was a large migration from Lancaster Co PA up here to Penn Yan and vicinity in the 70s. I buy from them, volunteer with them, share stuff, hire for baby sitting & etc. They are industrious for sure, but arre paying more for land than it can produce for them, so overpaying, because of our greedy bubble. And yes, they do borrow, from banks no less. Mennonites. My neighbor at the farmhouse was a Mennonite Engineer working for Corning. The rest of his family are farmers and builders and such.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 11:32:10

There was a large migration from Lancaster Co PA up here to Penn Yan and vicinity in the 70s.

Let me guess, were they driven out of Lancaster County by increasing land prices back in the 1970s?

I grew up in Chester County, which is directly to the east, and that was when that area got discovered…

…by developers.

 
Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 11:42:25

Not sure if I’ve told my Amish story here but here goes. A friend of mine’s mom was dying of brain cancer, and being the always prepared and organized person that she was, she was making the preparations for her own funeral. Living in an area of Southern Maryland with a fair number of Amish, she had admired the hand made coffins that they are buried in. So she went to the local coffin maker, and after explaing her situation, he was like “fine, I can do that.” He takes out his measuring tape and gets a funny look on his face. “I’ve never had to measure somebody who was standing up before.”

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:13:12

So she went to the local coffin maker, and after explaing her situation, he was like “fine, I can do that.” He takes out his measuring tape and gets a funny look on his face. “I’ve never had to measure somebody who was standing up before.” :-)

Ha, reminds Hwy of Lincoln’s soliloquy on being made fun of because of his long-legged lanky-yankee tallness.

“So Mr. Lincoln just how long should one’s legs be?”

After some pause Mr. Lincoln responds:

“Just long enough to reach the ground.”

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 14:01:53

“So Mr. Lincoln just how long should one’s legs be?”

After some pause Mr. Lincoln responds:

“Just long enough to reach the ground.”

Which leads me to don my coach’s hat and field the All-Presidential Basketball Team:

Center: Abraham Lincoln - 6 feet 4 inches. Scouting report says that this lanky Illinoisan may be wiry, but his build hides a tenacity that surprises opponents.

Power Forward: Lyndon Johnson - 6 feet 4 inches. Scouting report notes his tendency to play a hyper-aggressive game that often lands him in foul trouble.

Small Forward: Barack Obama - 6 feet 1 inch. Scouting report pays particular attention to his ability to hit three-pointers. Was called “Barry O-bomber” during his high school days.

Point Guard and Team Captain: George Washington - 6 feet 1.5 inches. Scouting report gives him high marks for nimble footwork and serious, no-nonsense demeanor.

Shooting Guard: Gerald Ford - 6 feet. Perhaps the most athletically gifted man ever to be President of the United States.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:03:36

Mennonites. My neighbor at the farmhouse was a Mennonite Engineer working for Corning.

Mennonites.

Are not Amish. Me cornfused?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:41:55

Which leads me to don my coach’s hat and field the All-Presidential Basketball Team: :-)

It’s an All-Star American Team effort!

GM: U.S. Grant
Coach: Robert E. Lee
Assistant Coach: William Tecumseh Sherman
Talent scout: Nathan Bedford Forrest

Hwy’s the fly on the wall at half-time locker-room & in the executives office $uite!

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-06 15:46:28

Mennonites are all Amish. Not all Amish are Mennonites.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 16:52:30

Mennonites are all Amish. Not all Amish are Mennonites.

Please make a distinction regarding my cousins life-styles, it add$ clarity.

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:59:35

and the greed pigs of Wall Street start snapping up defaulted collateral at fire sale prices.
:-)

Hwy ponders relation$hips…

Job$! Job$! Job$!
Food! Food! Food!
$torage! $torage! $torage
Bonu$! Bonu$! Bonu$!

 
 
Comment by Elanor
2011-07-06 12:50:40

Every time somebody suggests selling water to a neighboring state/community/whatever, a bunch of other people get all possessive about their water and prevent its siphoning. The Great Lakes are carefully regulated as to who can and can’t use them as their water source. In the west, ranches are sold with water rights. I think the infrastructure to transport water over long distances hasn’t been developed because that would get people armed with pitchforks riled up and ready to fight.

Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-06 13:52:26

It’s about the energy needed to move water. It’s quite heavy. See my comments elsewhere on the blog.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:32:44

Robert Redford, come on now! (youth hunk of America!)

The Milagro Beanfield War (1988)

Storyline

In Milagro, a small town in the American Southwest, Ladd Devine plans to build a major new resort development. While activist Ruby Archuleta and lawyer/newspaper editor Charlie Bloom realize that this will result in the eventual displacement of the local Hispanic farmers, they cannot arouse much opposition because of the short term opportunities offered by construction jobs. But when Joe Mondragon illegally diverts water to irrigate his bean field, the local people support him because of their resentment of water use laws that favor the rich like Devine. When the Governor sends in ruthless troubleshooter Kyril Montana to settle things quickly before the lucrative development is cancelled, a small war threatens to erupt.

 
 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-06 13:47:49

“it rather surprises me that there there isn’t the infrastructure to pipe fresh water from state to state”

Nooooo!!! Massive amounts of energy would be needed. “The California State Water Project is the largest single user of energy in California. In the process of delivering water from the San Francisco Bay-Delta to Southern California, the project uses 2 to 3 percent of all electricity consumed in the state.”

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 05:54:51

That underwater skeleton face in the mortgage mod ad gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:18:00

My banner ad is for Disneyland.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:00:45

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/bless_this_mess_eGj0dX3bBhzS3NTUwRAlRO

America’s biggest mortgage servicers are closing in on a deal with federal and state officials to settle some of the thorniest foreclosure fiasco problems — including the robo-signing issue, The Post has learned.

The proposed settlement with the Department of Justice and 50 state attorneys general, once thought to be in the neighborhood of $20 billion, could range as high as $60 billion and include a provision for principal reduction, sources close to the discussions said.

The settlement, as it is now structured, would form two types of funds, one national and state funds for each of the states, and would settle most state and federal civil foreclosure claims against Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-06 09:48:12

So what happens if they agree to a settlement, then file bankruptcy?

Does the $20-60 billion liability go away, but they get to keep the “Get out of Jail Free” card?

Just make sure that the year end bonuses are maxed out before implementing the plan. Such a deal.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:48:49

And the renters get screwed. Again.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 10:26:26

Hey hey Oxide your stealing my thunder….

I want a bailout..just a couple of months free rent so I can feel “inclusive”.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-06 10:59:55

Maybe not. I’m sure they won’t, but will comps get re-written?

This could actually have a back-door mark-to-market effect, no?

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-06 21:29:43

“Another sticking point being hashed over is mortgage servicers pushing to get absolved of any further legal claims by the state officials.”

 
 
Comment by ElectricSheep
2011-07-06 06:07:24

U.S. Housing Recovery Stymied by Government

By Kathleen M. Howley - Jul 5, 2011 9:00 PM PT
Bloomberg

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, seized by the U.S. during the closing months of the Bush administration in 2008, have tightened more than a dozen mortgage qualifications since then, including those for down payments and credit scores. The restrictions come after the government handed out $16.2 billion in homebuyer tax credits to pump up demand and the Federal Reserve bought more than $1 trillion of mortgage bonds to lower borrowing costs.

The Fed on June 22 lowered its estimate for 2011 economic growth to a range of 2.7 percent to 2.9 percent from the 3.1 percent to 3.3 percent it projected in April, citing the residential real estate market as a factor. Housing is “a big reason that the current recovery is less vigorous than we would like,” Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said in a speech last month.

“The government is working at cross-purposes,” said Doug Bandow, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, a libertarian policy-research center in Washington. “There’s been a desperate attempt to reinflate housing by throwing money at the problem. The worst time to tighten lending is after doing that.”

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 06:48:11

More like it’s stymied by a lack of good paying jobs. THere’s a reason lending is tight: People with menial jobs can’t pay mortgages.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 07:21:34

People with menial jobs can’t pay mortgages.

People with menial jobs can’t pay mortgages.

People with menial jobs can’t pay mortgages.

No worries, the “TruePathforourpersonalPro$perity™” gang have a plan!:

Job$! Job$! Job$!…coming soon! ;-)

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 08:05:18

And of top of it, conservatives are throwing fuel on the fire by suggesting that eliminating the “job-killing” minimum wage will wipe out unemployment. Like this dreck:

http://theweek.com/article/index/216914/the-minimum-wage-job-killer

The minimum wage: Job killer?
With many states facing record numbers of unemployed teens, economists debate whether to blame the downturn or minimum-wage hikes
posted on July 5, 2011, at 5:20 PM

It’s even tough for teenagers to get jobs these days, and some say the recent hike of the minimum wage is to blame.

…conservatives say one is the hike in the minimum wage from $5.15 an hour in 2007 to $7.25 by 2009. Is that really why so many teenagers can’t find work?…

“Both sides are right… and wrong: Minimum wage opponents have a point, says Antoine Gara at Bloomberg Businessweek. It’s true that, because the minimum wage is higher than the actual value of teens’ labor, it keeps “some low-skilled workers out of the market.” But as economists note, “the main cause of unemployment today is a lack of demand, not overpriced labor.” Dropping the minimum wage might help a bit, but it’s hardly a panacea.”

——–

Just what is the minimum value of teen’s labor? A bowl of rice a day?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:23:27

“the main cause of unemployment today is a lack of demand, not overpriced labor.”

Go Bassackwards! As it leads all Americans to the “TruePathtofPro$perity!™”

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:25:39

Just what is the minimum value of teen’s labor? A bowl of rice a day?

As GS has mentioned more once, if your transportation costs exceed your pay, why bother working?

And I really doubt that hiring would ramp up if the minimum wage was done away with. You won’t hire any more people than you need. If your pizzerria can get by with its current number of employees, then why hire more? Most likely the pizzeria owner will pocket the savings. Of course, he’ll now have fewer customers as all those teens will have less cash to spend.

I can seen the executive team at WalMart’s Galactic HQ salivating over this.

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Comment by polly
2011-07-06 09:49:20

Some states have their own minimum wage. Seeing what would happen in places like CA vs. places without a state minimum wage would be interesting. Possibly terrible, but still interesting.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:16:08

I could see many states scrambling to pass their own minimum wage laws to maintain the status quo. I’m sure that all those wonderful “right to work for less pay” states would do no such thing, they’d just let their foodstamp rolls grow and pawn it off onto the feds.

 
Comment by Pete
2011-07-06 13:47:46

“Santa Cruz OKs Nation’s Top Minimum Wage”
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=89163&page=1
$11 per hour w/benefits, $12 w/o benefits

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:14:02

I can seen the executive team at WalMart’s Galactic HQ salivating over this. ;-)

So can the Walmart owner$:

Christy Walton & family
$26.5 B age: 56 Walmart United States

Buy American!

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:20:31

…that all those wonderful “right to work for less pay” states would do no such thing

they’d just let their food-stamp rolls grow and pawn it off onto the fed$.

“TrueReducetheDeficitNow!Today!™” + Federal/State/County/City tax breaks for NA$CAR

 
 
 
 
Comment by Jim A
2011-07-06 08:17:01

Well the best time to tighten lending is before you blow the bubble, not after you’ve got one. But that’s not really an option any more. And listen to all the whining about the lowering of F&Fs loan limits. The simple fact that F&F account for such a huge proportion of mortgage lending is an argument that they haven’t tightened enough. The fact that their share was steadily decreasing as the bubble was being blown is a pretty good argument that they weren’ the root cause.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:35:00

Doesn’t propping up home prices at a point when many are out of work and many others have seen their incomes reduced have a tendency to shut down liquidity in the home purchase market? Why does the Fed have an interest in putting so many used home sellers out of work?

Bloomberg
Existing-Home Sales in U.S. Probably Dropped to Six-Month Low
June 21, 2011, 7:28 AM EDT
By Timothy R. Homan

June 21 (Bloomberg) — Sales of previously owned U.S. homes probably fell in May to the lowest level this year, a sign that housing lags behind other parts of the economy, economists said before a report today.

Purchases fell 5 percent to a 4.8 million annual pace, the fewest since November, according to the median forecast of 69 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News. A 13-year low 4.91 million existing houses were sold last year.

 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2011-07-06 06:09:32

Ben has talked about the housing bubble in terms of being a classical mania. I think there’s probably truth to this. But with a twist.

So - you’ve had tulip bulbs (1637), the South Sea Company (1720), stocks (2000), and the real estate bubble (2000-2010).

What is different about these items? Real estate is something significant - a real object. All of these other manias are in “virtual products”. Products that are independently of little or no value or use, that gain massive popularity and demand. High liquidity virtual products.

But with real estate, I’m thinking that the same thing happened, and that real estate was just a side effect of the underlying mania. And that mania was in debt.

Small numbers of stocks are basically worthless except that someone else will pay more than you did for them. If a company’s stock goes too low, it will be bought. That puts a floor under stock prices (side note: the encouragement of mergers and acquisitions, which got big in the 80s, probably significantly boosted the price of stocks).

Tulip bulbs are good for little but decorative purposes. They quickly degrade, are easily damaged.

Debt is also a virtual product - it is merely a promise to pay. “You want promises to pay, I’ll give you promises to pay,” said the market to investors.

And the way to have individuals generate the most debt is to entice them to buy the largest purchase of their lives, a house. Demand for real estate itself I think is pretty static. It ebbs and flows depending on the economic climate of an area. Case-Schiller said it tracked inflation for the 1900s. But what can cause a worldwide mania is not the real estate itself but the mania in the underlying debt. Sharing an important facet with historical manias.

And it seems to me that the best way to stop the debt mania is to stop all government guarantees of debt, and to create a financial system that can’t hold the economy hostage when it engages in shenanigans. Highly rated junk debt by ratings agencies, plus government guarantees boosted the prices of debt. Then the government made itself the “bad bank”, by assuming the junk debt. And now, it’s not just this generation that will pay, but it will be many future generations that will pay.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-07-06 06:26:30

Alan Greenspan used the global bubble as an out for the Federal Reserve. I think he’s wrong. What was similar to all these countries? Central banks. OK, so that’s my opinion. Let’s have this debate and make some changes. But I will point out that our system gave the Fed (owned by Wall Street, BTW) even more power, and we still can’t even get an audit! This country seems to act like children when it comes to politics. At some point, we have to stop pointing fingers and fix this thing ourselves.

I also think you’re mistaken in the govt assuming all the bad debt. I read recently that the US govt obligations top $100 trillion. Divide that by the number of citizens and tell me how “we” assumed anything? Maybe the problem is “we” want something for nothing, to eat our cake and have it too, we’ll gladly pay you Wednesday for a hamburger today.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 06:49:35

At some point, we have to stop pointing fingers and fix this thing ourselves.

I agree, the problem is that the tiny minority that has all the money and the real power will never allow that to happen.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-07-06 07:21:05

‘the tiny minority that has all the money and the real power will never allow that to happen’

Tell that to Mubarak, or the guys in Tunisia or Yemen.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 07:29:19

True Mr. Ben!

(However, they weren’t Delaware Inc.$ & didn’t have the Supreme Court of their Nations “TrueIndemityProtection™”… like for example these guys): ;-)

GoldenmanSucks Inc. (SCOTUS person) = “TrueFinancialCult™” / “TrueSerialLiquiditist™”

 
Comment by measton
2011-07-06 08:13:49

You won’t get a Mubarek type overthrow here for some time.

1. Dems and Repubs can play the blame the other guy game, keeping nation devided.
2. Most feel they have some say when they vote, so they are less likely to rebel.
3. We are still too rich, when hunger strikes a large percentage of the population you’ll get real anger. Thus food stamps and welfare will be increased until the fleecing of the middle class is done.
4. The elite in this country are for the most part unknown, they use puppets in gov to get their way rather than doing it themselves, thus when real anger arives they will fade into the woodwork or move.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:33:52

thus when real anger arives they will fade into the woodwork or move…

…to location$: “B’ / “C” / “D” or “E” depending on season & current weather conditions. ;-)

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:35:11

We are still too rich, when hunger strikes a large percentage of the population you’ll get real anger. Thus food stamps and welfare will be increased until the fleecing of the middle class is done.

Consider that we are currently feeding almost 50 million people with about $70B a year in food stamps. We could feed the entire country for less than what we spend on “defense”.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 09:19:58

“Tell that to Mubarak, or the guys in Tunisia or Yemen.”

The problem is that J6P doesn’t have a clue who his real oppressors are. So he blames whoever is currently sitting in the Oval office, while the banksters and coporatists continue to stripmine the wealth away.

Fe whave a clue about what the Federal Reserve really is (I love seeing their minds boggle when I explain to them that it’s not Fort Knox gold that backs up the paper money in their wallets).

J6P is even willing to assist his oppressors as he runs up his credit cards, buys an imported vehicle which he loads up with imported junk at the big box store.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 10:46:34

‘the tiny minority that has all the money and the real power will never allow that to happen’

Tell that to Mubarak, or the guys in Tunisia or Yemen.

Or to people here in Tucson. Last week, David Walker from the Comeback America Initiative and Robert Bixby of the Concord Coalition came to town. They were the featured speakers at a Town Hall hosted by the office of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

And do you think that the presentation was an oasis of civility for which Tucson is supposed to be known for? Well, think again.

More than a few people showed up to, ahem, present an alternative viewpoint to that which was presented by the two speakers. This included a registered nurse rushing the stage because she was repeatedly denied a chance to speak.

The Giffords staff people took the mike away from her and forced her off the stage. Which prompted quite a chorus of shouts from the audience, including my own. “Let her talk!” I hollered. To no avail.

Oh, well. The incident has now gone viral. And one of the staffers who was wounded in the January 8 shootings went back to work earlier this week. He’s not the sort who’d bring the Walker/Bixby show to town, and I think that he’s probably engaged in some major damage control over on Fort Lowell Road. (That’s where Giffords’ new office is.)

As for me, I found the lack of acknowledgement of why Giffords wasn’t there to be very disturbing. Yes, we all know that she was shot by a very troubled young man.

And, sad to say, this is Arizona, where mental health services have already been cut to the bone. Or eliminated. Say what you will about mental health services, but they have helped some people. Myself included.

I don’t think that the way out of our nation’s problems is to keep cutting and eliminating things. It’s possible that something was cut or eliminated that could have helped Jared Lee Loughner.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:28:08

Slim, I’m cornfused by your post. You saying that Giffords camp invited an oppoortunity for discussion (a Town Hall hosted by the office of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords) and it turned ugly?

(including my own. “Let her talk!”)
“This included a registered nurse rushing the stage”

As for me, I found the lack of acknowledgement of why Giffords wasn’t there to be very disturbing.

Seriously, you were disturbed by her “no-show”?

like I said, I’m quite cornfused…

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 14:48:00

Slim, I’m cornfused by your post. You saying that Giffords camp invited an oppoortunity for discussion (a Town Hall hosted by the office of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords) and it turned ugly?

What rankled so many of us was the LACK of opportunity for discussion. Starting with the nurse who was repeatedly denied a chance to speak. And ending with the deficit-cutting exercise that followed the two speakers’ presentation. In the printed materials that we were supposed to use for this exercise, there was no mention of such things as lifting the income cap on social security taxation. Or ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:52:09

Well, having just watched the “antics” of “meetings” in the movie “In The Loop” I’m not surprised. It merely re-enforced similar personal Sit-U-Ations Hwy’s encountered in other forms of Gov’t “input-from-the-”people”" …leaving with “high-expectations” eye-think-knot!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 16:02:44

In the printed materials that we were supposed to use for this exercise, there was no mention of such things as lifting the income cap on social security taxation. Or ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Let me guess, there was mention of:

Reduced Social Security payouts
Reduction of foodstamp benefits.
Reduction of education spending
Increasing taxes that would only affect the poor and the middle class

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2011-07-06 06:58:46

“What was similar to all these countries? Central banks. OK, so that’s my opinion.”

I don’t think it’s merely your opinion. After watching Bill Still’s documentary “Secrets of Oz” and reading Michael Hudson’s article in Counterpunch, there’s no doubt in my mind that central banks ARE the problem, and have been for centuries. And it would seem that prosperity comes about when a country issues its own, debt free money.

What’s going on now, with respect to Greece, even the US, puts me in mind of a group of torturers reviving their victims only to torture them some more.

It’s really difficult to get this across to people, but the FED and similar central banks are nothing more than a bunch of con men (and women) who have convinced governments that THEY should be the ones to invent and control the money. I don’t think most people really get this. They reall do INVENT the money. Out of thin air. That’s not a joke or a sarcasm. Back in the day, they used ledger books and little stubby pencils and wrote down things like “Owes us $5 million dollars” and then they’d “give” that five mil to the Treasury to be distributed to the populace, and paid back with interest. Now they do it with key strokes on computers.

The FED and other central banks are nothing more than organizations that invent fiat money and lend that fiat money to national treasuries to be distributed to the people, but with interest attached coming back. In the US, the IRS is its collection agency.

It’s time to end this system. It shouldn’t even be a debate. And any legislation that ends this system should also forbid, under pain of death, any similar system from ever coming to the fore again, much like the legislation that freed the slaves.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 08:08:36

More like unregulated central banks, Ben.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-07-06 08:50:52

‘unregulated central banks’

It’s worse than that. They are the regulators.

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:54:50

I agree. If they aren’t the regulators, they’re buying them off. And if they aren’t buying them off, they eliminate the middleman and get in the government themselves, generally by electing a repub, or bywooing Obama. (cf L. Summers.)

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 10:28:37

BWAHAHAHicHAHAHicHAHAHAHAHicHAHAHic* (DennisN™)

 
 
 
 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-06 07:21:28

If a car is careening out of control and has already left the pavement you just cannot give it more gas. You have got to lift.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:26:51

“Real estate is something significant - a real object.”

MBS are derivatives, and it was the collapse of the subprime MBS market beginning in December 2006 which heralded the onset of the housing bubble collapse.

 
Comment by cactus
2011-07-06 09:31:03

And it seems to me that the best way to stop the debt mania is to stop all government guarantees of debt, ”

The FED hates deflation and without debt creation there is slow or no money expansion.

I think we will get deflation one way or another. If one has too much debt how can one borrow and expand the money supply ?

defaults = deflation

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 14:35:38

“If one has too much debt how can one borrow and expand the money supply?”

QE1, QE2, …

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:58:08

“Bungi-cord” theory it has a purpo$e, doesn’t mean that “no harm” i$’nt involved, e$pecially it the determining factor is: Length proportional to fall. ;-)

Lucy: “Hwy, you’re such a BLOCKHEAD!”

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Comment by cactus
2011-07-06 17:24:41

yes that’s what 2 of my Chinese co-workers tell me “the government will just print and all debts will be inflated down to size.” turns out they bought homes in 2006 so they like that story. many of their freinds are buying second homes and renting the first home out, realtors tell them they can cash flow positive now. etc.

well we will see won’t we

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:10:34

You left out Savings & Loan (1989)

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 06:13:38

Faux News / WSJizz / New$ Corp.’$ Inc.’$ … et.al.= MUrDoch’s “True Chupacabra™” ;-)

Families of 7/7 victims ‘targeted in phone-hacking’:
By Alice Ritchie | AFP

The row over phone-hacking at the News of the World erupted into a national scandal on Wednesday, amid allegations that relatives of murdered children and victims of the London 2005 bombings were targeted.

After the claims sparked widespread outrage, an emergency parliamentary debate was to be held to discuss the activities at the top-selling Sunday newspaper, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News International.

Graham Foulkes said he believed his phone may have been hacked during the week he waited for confirmation that his son David was one of 52 people killed when suicide bombers attacked the London transport system.

“My wife and I were kind of all over the place, we were chatting to friends on the phone, in a very personal and deeply emotional context — and the thought that somebody may have been listening to that just looking for a cheap headline is just horrendous,” he told the BBC.

It has also emerged that the parents of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, two 10-year-olds who went missing in Soham, eastern England, in 2002 and were found murdered several weeks later, may have been targeted.

The news followed allegations on Tuesday that the News of the World hacked into the voicemail of teenager Milly Dowler in the days after she went missing in 2002. Her remains were found six months later.

When her voicemail box became full, they even deleted messages to make room for new ones — an action that hampered the investigation because her loved ones and police mistakenly took it as proof that Dowler was still alive, reports said.

In a statement issued late Tuesday, the private investigator jailed in 2007, Glenn Mulcaire, apologised for his actions but said there was “relentless pressure” at the News of the World, and a “constant demand for results”.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:20:43

Goes to show how vile the media has become. Of course guys like Murdoch are only giving the masses what the masses are clamoring for.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 06:54:21

Now Sammy, millions of good American folks are simply in the “TrueBeliever’s™ / “TrueDeceiver’s™” / “TruePathtoProsperity™” personal “Do I say!, not as I do…” cro$$-hair, “shoot-the-dissenters” campaign . ;-)

The good news is that the more conscious you are of these techniques, the less likely they are to work on you. The bad news is that those reading this article are probably the least in need in of it.

One final observation. Fox audiences, birthers and Tea Partiers often defend their arguments by pointing to the fact that a lot of people share the same perceptions. This is a reasonable point to the extent that Murdoch’s News Corporation reaches a far larger audience than any other single media outlet. But, the fact that a lot of people believe something is not necessarily a sign that it’s true; it’s just a sign that it’s been effectively marketed.

As honest, fair and truly intellectual debate degrades before the eyes of the global media audience, the quality of American democracy degrades along with it.

14 Propaganda Techniques Fox Faux “News” Uses to Brainwash Americans:
Saturday 2 July 2011 / by: Dr. Cynthia Boaz, Truthout | News Analysis

Each comes with examples & analysis:

1. Panic Mongering.

2. Character Assassination/Ad Hominem.

3. Projection/Flipping

4. Rewriting History. (see HBB posts yesterday re: American civil war not about $lavery)

5. Scapegoating/Othering.

6. Conflating Violence With Power and Opposition to Violence With Weakness.

7. Bullying.
This is a favorite technique of several Fox commentators. That it continues to be employed demonstrates that it seems to have some efficacy. Bullying and yelling works best on people who come to the conversation with a lack of confidence, either in themselves or their grasp of the subject being discussed. The bully exploits this lack of confidence by berating the guest into submission or compliance. Often, less self-possessed people will feel shame and anxiety when being berated and the quickest way to end the immediate discomfort is to cede authority to the bully. The bully is then able to interpret that as a “win.

8. Confusion.

9. Populism.

10. Invoking the Christian God.

11. $aturation.
There are three components to effective saturation: being repetitive, being ubiquitous and being consistent. The message must be repeated cover and over, it must be everywhere and it must be shared across commentators: e.g. “Saddam has WMD.” Veracity and hard data have no relationship to the efficacy of saturation. There is a psychological effect of being exposed to the same message over and over, regardless of whether it’s true or if it even makes sense, e.g., “Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States.” If something is said enough times, by enough people, many will come to accept it as truth. Another example is Fox’s own slogan of “Fair and Balanced.”

(on the HBB, RAL is an example of a type of Paul Revere counter-insurgency inoculation. ;-))

12. Disparaging Education.

13. Guilt by Association.
This is a favorite of Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart, both of whom have used it to decimate the careers and lives of many good people. Here’s how it works: if your cousin’s college roommate’s uncle’s ex-wife attended a dinner party back in 1984 with Gorbachev’s niece’s ex-boyfriend’s sister, then you, by extension are a communist set on destroying America. Period.

14. Diversion.

In considering these tactics and their possible effects on American public discourse, it is important to note that historically, those who’ve genuinely accessed truth have never berated those who did not. You don’t get honored by history when you beat up your opponent: look at Martin Luther King Jr., Robert Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln. These men did not find the need to engage in othering, ad homeinum attacks, guilt by association or bullying. This is because when a person has accessed a truth, they are not threatened by the opposing views of others. This reality reveals the righteous indignation of people like Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity as a symptom of untruth. These individuals are hostile and angry precisely because they don’t feel confident in their own veracity. And in general, the more someone is losing their temper in a debate and the more intolerant they are of listening to others, the more you can be certain they do not know what they’re talking about.

Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-06 07:31:22

See also Thomas Frank’s book “What’s The Matter With Kansas”

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-06 09:16:48

“See also Thomas Frank’s book “What’s The Matter With Kansas””

Best book ever.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:39:28

Well now, you’re talkin’ bout Hwy’s Father’s/Grandfather’s/GreatGrandfather’s birthplace,…not Mon$anto’$:

What’s The Matter With Kansas

Not long ago, Kansas would have responded to the current situation by making the bastards pay. This would have been a political certainty, as predictable as what happens when you touch a match to a puddle of gasoline. When business screwed the farmers and the workers - when it implemented monopoly strategies invasive beyond the Populists’ furthest imaginings — when it ripped off shareholders and casually tossed thousands out of work — you could be damned sure about what would follow.

Not these days. Out here the gravity of discontent pulls in only one direction: to the right, to the right, further to the right. Strip today’s Kansans of their job security, and they head out to become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing you know they’re protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there’s a good chance they’ll join the John Birch Society. But ask them about the remedies their ancestors proposed (unions, antitrust, public ownership), and you might as well be referring to the days when knighthood was in flower.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-06 07:33:15

Ms. Boaz is probably even more liberal than Hwy. Check out her bio and affiliations. Hardly the dispassionate observer I’d say.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Cynthia_Anne_Marie_Boaz

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:07:43

Bill stuck along the side “The-broken-down-Hwy” with a flat tire, traffic whizzing by at 70 mph, refusing to repair the $ituation on accounts he’s not sure if it’s a repubican or democrapt lug wrench/tool he has in his hand. ;-)

It’s a list of tools Bill, use ‘em iffin’ you like! Free! (that’s a liberal idea, no?) :-)

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-06 12:27:02

Hwy, Rush Limbaugh could have said (maybe he has) the same things about MSNBC. It’s just a partisan rant.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:03:35

Hwy, Ra$h Limpbaugh$

Posted below: choose your Poi$on, this is America & eyes loves it…all of it!.

(Mostly Bill, like Thoreau & God, I’ve never known we’ve quarreled?) :-)

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 08:10:24

(on the HBB, RAL is an example of a type of Paul Revere counter-insurgency inoculation. ;-))

Really? I’ve seen him post some good and useful stuff, but I’ve also seen a strong doses of #7 from him. And yours sometimes make me wonder if Gary Busey is into the HBB :-).

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-06 09:22:48

Oh c’mon Carl. You just disparaged me by using guilt by association. You’re no different. But really…. associating me with the fox news clowns? That’s the step right before invoking some Hitler or Nazi nonsense.

I have alot of respect for you, I think you have the biggest balls on the blog so set aside the distractions and join me and others by putting the crosshairs on the target.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 10:29:25

Ms. Boaz is probably even more liberal than Hwy. Check out her bio and affiliations. Hardly the dispassionate observer I’d say.

She is very liberal - a progressive. It seems she spends most of her life fighting for justice and democracy. So who does she endanger?

And who cares if she is a liberal or a conservative if she is making valid observations? Are her observations not valid no matter who she is?

If a nutjob, kkk wacko tells me water freezes at 0 degrees celsius and backs it up with facts and figures I would tend to believe the facts no matter the messenger.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 10:33:01

Didn’t mean to associate you with Fox News. I’m saying that some of your arguing tactics are bullying tactics. Perhaps it’s a New York thing…I don’t think you’re evil. I’ve moderated boards in the past and I would have had to boot you even if I agreed with you. Not recently, though…and I appreciate that maybe you’re trying to tone it down a bit. I’m trying to do my part and lighten up and not take things personally.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 11:12:08

I’m trying to do my part and lighten up and not take things personally.

(That reminds Hwy, get count down to this years family Thanksgiving feast,… and the $obering $tatisitcs for the MarinInfidels!) ;-)

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 11:55:51

It really is funny to me when I read your posts in a Gary Busey voice and slop through the dollar signs with an “sh” sound :-).

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 12:59:41

For years I listened to Gordon Lightfoot not knowing he had a lisp or is lispt? ;-)

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-07-06 08:21:20

This is a favorite technique of several Fox commentators. That it continues to be employed demonstrates that it seems to have some efficacy. Bullying and yelling works best on people who come to the conversation with a lack of confidence, either in themselves or their grasp of the subject being discussed. The bully exploits this lack of confidence by berating the guest into submission or compliance. Often, less self-possessed people will feel shame and anxiety when being berated and the quickest way to end the immediate discomfort is to cede authority to the bully. The bully is then able to interpret that as a “win.

I’d say bullying and yelling works on people who have been braught up to be civil. It also works best against people who come in with facts and can be distracted by the bullying and that prevents them from using their knowledge effectively. I remember watching Oreilly interview some college kid who was promoting the legalization of marijuana. The kid was thin and quite, any time he started to bring up a fact Oreilly would talk right over him, put him down etc etc. I suspect the kid had some important points to make but he never got a chance he just looked pale adn flushed by the time he left.

Oreilly won the debate by making the kid look flustered and preventing him from making a point. He didn’t win on merit.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:28:46

But, the fact that a lot of people believe something is not necessarily a sign that it’s true; it’s just a sign that it’s been effectively marketed.

This is one of the reasons that I do not believe in Adam Smith’s “Invisible hand”.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 11:05:24

“The hands that taketh”, quite $tealthy, look for their waffle footprint Impre$$ions:

Inc’$.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 08:30:50

10. Invoking the Christian Protestant Fundamentalist God.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:37:22

pick-your-poi$on

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 09:21:45

Just saying that Jesus said stuff about charity and helping the poor. Not that you’ll ever hear about that from a Fundy pulpit.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 18:05:14

Jesus said stuff about charity and helping the poor.

Goldenman$ucks Inve$tment brochure/community relation$… compared to… the right-hand/left-hand of Son-of-God.

Tough di$tinction

My bad: “…we’re doing God’s work.”

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:13:47

http://news.yahoo.com/iranians-gold-amid-inflation-currency-fears-124851328.html

Iranians snapping up gold as a hedge against inflation and central bank money-printing. Now that the sheeple here aren’t riveted to the Casey Anthony trial, they might want to think about doing the same thing before QE III is announced and Zimbabwe Ben’s digital printing press cranks the money supply to infinity and beyond.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 06:44:39

http://www.kitco.com/stocks/companyname_asc.html

Precious metals stocks surging.

Comment by cactus
2011-07-06 09:38:27

I guess many people think paper money is going to devalue or become worthless. I think this is what usually happens with Fiat currencies. So if you work for paper money you can afford even less stuff and unless you get raises to keep you even ( fat chance ) you won’t be able to buy much.

Less money = deflation

And if it gets really bad ( I don’t think it will ) the people who have hoarded gold may have to trade it for lead.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:21:17

They have to USE IT as “lead.”

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:26:40

“…MAY have to…” :roll: sheesh

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 06:23:48

:!: This is kind of an important comment, so please read it. I will also re-post this comment at least a few more times this month.

Ben Jones has posted several articles about the pending regulation for the Qualified Residential Mortgage Program. Sloppier news articles imply that the regulation would “require” 20% down for any mortgage. This is not true. The pending regulation says that if a buyer qualifies for QRM, then the bank can securitize ALL of the loan. If the buyer does not qualify, the bank may only securitize 95% of the loand. That is, the bank could accept 0% down if they wanted, they just need to hold 5% of their loan.

Here is a better summary of the pending regulation:

———-
“The intent of the risk retention requirement written in Dodd-Frank was to make it more difficult to originate and securitize the types of loans that caused the worst problems during the downturn. The QRM (Qualified Residential Mortgage) definition should, and does, explicitly target these riskier attributes. There is no reason to further cut off credit to borrowers by layering on other more onerous restrictions that were not implicated in the downturn. The current QRM proposal is contrary to the explicit intent of Congress. To qualify for a QRM under the proposal, the borrower must make a 20 percent down payment and have a maximum loan-to-value (LTV) ratio of 80 percent for purchase loans and a 75 percent combined LTV for refinance transactions, reduced to 70 percent for cash-out refinances. In addition to a 20 percent down payment, the borrower must have cash to pay closing costs. Additionally, a borrower’s debt load must not exceed front-end and back-end debt-to-income (DTI) ratios of 28 percent and 36 percent, respectively.
———–

This summary was written by Chris Mozilo, a realtor in Arizona and nephew of Angelo. It is part of his full public comment on this pending regulation. To read his full comment please go here:

http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=OCC-2011-0002-0012

and click on the little “doc” box to the right. It will open in Word or pdf.

To see all 121 public comments, go here:

http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;dct=FR+PR+N+O+SR+PS;rpp=100;po=100;D=OCC-2011-0002

And click on the names you want to see. Names with little paper clips means that the comment was attached.

Here’s a quick tip: we like to complain that we can’t make a difference. But unlike a call to your congresscritter, public comments for pending regulations (on all topics) DO make a difference:

1. In this case, Congress already voted to write a regulation, when they passed the Dodd-Frank financial reform, so Congress can’t do anything any more here.
2. Public comments have to be read and answered by the regulators. Your comment will be read by those workers who make the actual decisions.
3. So far, there are ONLY 121 public comments. Contrast that to the thousands of calls a Congressman gets on dozens of topics. Instead of being one among thousands, your comment will be one among about 200 total (i’m guessing). It’s about the best “access” you will get.

So, if you want to comment on this regulation yourself, please go here:

http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;dct=FR+PR+N+O+SR;rpp=10;po=0;D=OCC-2011-0002

scroll down, and click on “comment due” in blue print. There are options to either type a comment directly, or upload a comment.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 06:37:03

Correction: The summary was probably not written by Chris Mozilo. Christina Boucher submitted the exact same comment. Obviously the comment is a prewritten form so other commenters could fill in the blanks.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 06:38:08

And Tracy Preston too. All three are Arizona realtors. Hmmmm….

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:23:42

Don’t be surprised if you can trace the source of this comment back to the NAR.

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 09:56:39

You should add a comment yourself, PB!!

(in fact, everyone should)

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:25:24

“The intent of the risk retention requirement written in Dodd-Frank was to make it more difficult to originate and securitize the types of loans that caused the worst problems during the downturn.”

I’m having trouble understanding this statement as PRIME defaults surpassed sub-prime defaults last year.

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-06 06:26:35

Realtors Are Liars

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 07:00:08

and DJ’s are cool…we make you have Happy Feet!

Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-06 07:38:06

aNYCdj
DJ’s do pedicures? LOL (I like your spunk.)

 
 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-07-06 10:14:43

You either stand for something or you’ll fall for anything.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2011-07-06 07:42:38

The EU honchos are getting mad at the credit rating agencies. The latest blow to them is that Moody’s downgraded Portugal’s debt. They have a point: the credit rating agencies are all US corporations. But if they were based in the EU they may be more likely to be compromised by government corruption there.

Europe issued a full-throated assault on credit ratings agencies on Wednesday, saying there were signs of bias against the European Union after Moody’s downgraded Portugal’s debt to “junk” status.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said Moody’s decision to lower Portugal by four notches and maintain a negative outlook was fuelling speculation in financial markets. Europe was looking at getting away from its reliance on the mainly U.S.-based ratings companies and weighing possibilities for legal redress, he added.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/EU-attacks-credit-rating-rb-1204936540.html

Comment by oxide
2011-07-06 08:10:49

Doesn’t the EU have its own credit rating agencies?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 08:13:18

But if they were based in the EU they may be more likely to be compromised by government corruption there.

As opposed to how the behaved in the USofA. :-/

The Standard Poor Moody Fitchety Ba$turd “True$erialEnablers™”

(but that’s just ol’ Hwy50’s,…Opinion! $o $ue me!) ;-)

 
Comment by jane
2011-07-06 22:25:03

DennisN, tx for bringing this up.

Where is there a less corrupt venue in which to establish a prospective universally embraced rating agency?

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:39:26

Can anyone who believes it is a vital U.S. national interest to prop up the value of millionaire housing in Coastal California please explain the reason?

Because I’m missing it…

July 6, 2011, 11:18 AM ET

Rebound or Retreat After Mortgage-Cap Declines?
By Nick Timiraos

Wednesday’s Journal takes a look at the first real test of the government’s efforts to take a toe out of the mortgage market. Come October, the government will modestly reduce the maximum loan size that government entities can guarantee in certain high-cost housing markets.

In 2008, Congress raised the maximum loan amount that mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and federal agencies could guarantee in certain housing markets. Home buyers in dozens of cities faced a credit squeeze when private lenders pulled back from originating loans that exceeded $417,000, the limit for government-backed loans. The higher limits are pegged to local prices and in the priciest markets rise as high as $729,750. After September, they’ll fall on a sliding scale depending on regional home prices, topping out at $625,500.

The decline illustrates the tough balancing act facing policy makers, particularly at a time when housing markets appear to be softer than many had hoped they would be at this point in the recovery. Without government-backed loans, buyers must take out jumbo mortgages that carry higher rates and tougher qualification standards.

“It’s a tough call,” says Richard Green, director of the University of Southern California’s Lusk Center for Real Estate. While he says it’s a “good natural experiment” to rollback lending support for higher-priced properties, he adds, “with the housing market as weak as it is, one reasonably wonders whether it’s good to do anything.”

The Obama administration supports letting the limits fall in a bid to carve out more room for private capital to compete with Fannie, Freddie and the Federal Housing Administration. Government-related entities stand behind more than nine in 10 new mortgages, and taxpayers have sunk $138 billion into Fannie and Freddie, underscoring lawmakers’ eagerness to dial down the government’s share.

In San Diego County, loan limits will decline to $546,250 from the current ceiling of $697,500. Greg Demgen and his wife are trying to sell their 5,200 square-foot home for $900,000. While he says he’s confident the home is priced to sell quickly, finding buyers who can qualify for cut-rate loans “can only help the cause,” says Mr. Demgen, 51, of Vista, Calif. “We should get it done before that $697,500 ceiling goes away.”

One in 12 home sales during the past year fell within the county’s proposed and current limit, assuming a 10% down payment, according to MDA DataQuick, a real-estate research firm.

Comment by SDGreg
2011-07-06 09:40:15

“One in 12 home sales during the past year fell within the county’s proposed and current limit, assuming a 10% down payment, according to MDA DataQuick, a real-estate research firm.”

That’s pretty astounding. Weren’t we led to believe that it was the lower priced properties that were selling?

 
Comment by cactus
2011-07-06 09:43:11

Greg Demgen and his wife are trying to sell their 5,200 square-foot home for $900,000″

Vista Ca cactus growing capital of the world at one time

5,200 square maybe he can sell to a super rich Shiek ? Who always wanted to live in Vista… for some reason

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:28:29

Vista/San Marcos/Escondido … the tri city pearl of the west. Sometimes I can’t believe I actually lived there once … shudder.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:39:23

Hey now, they’ve got the sprinter to the beach! :-)

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-06 08:49:30

Condos in Richmond, CA are selling at 60% off peak bubble prices — and at less than 100X rent, at least according to Zillow; and I believe Zillow’s market value estimates are upwardly biased, as I saw a comp on the MLS (exact same housing complex, floor plan, etc) offered at $25K less than this one. Presumably homes are selling for less than the list prices these days, too…

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 09:20:57

Condos in Richmond, CA are selling at 60% off One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest prices —

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-06 14:08:36

But then you have to live in Richmond, CA…

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:00:27

:-)

 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 09:00:18

I hereby nominate Eddie for the HBB man of the year.

Former Boynton Beach police officer of the year indicted on drug charges

By Sonja Isger Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:29 p.m. Tuesday, July 5, 2011

A Boynton Beach police officer honored only last year as an Officer of the Year and an instructor at his department’s Teen Police Academy now stands accused of selling drugs for the last two years.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office and DEA officials announced Tuesday the indictment of David Britto, 28, who they allege had and intended to sell more than 500 grams of methamphetamines between June 2009 and March 2011.

Boynton Beach Police department hired Britto in 2007. The Palm Beach County Association of Chiefs of Police and the Boynton Beach police selected him as 2010 Officer of the Year.

At the time, the department reported that Britto was an instructor at the department’s Teen Police Academy and volunteered as a mentor at the Florida Community Alliance.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/former-boynton-beach-police-officer-of-the-year-1583911.html - 57k

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 09:23:17

Will he get to keep his pension?

Comment by Steve J
2011-07-06 10:01:47

If they could take away pensions from criminals, Fortune 500 companies would have had thier retirees arrested a long time ago.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 11:39:43

“Will he get to keep his pension?”

Who, Eddie or the drug dealing police officer Teen Police Academy mentor?

 
 
Comment by SDGreg
2011-07-06 09:46:30

“The Palm Beach County Association of Chiefs of Police and the Boynton Beach police selected him as 2010 Officer of the Year.”

This speaks volumes about how utterly horrible many American managers are. Sociopaths awarding sociopaths without bothering to ever check what was being done or how.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 10:00:25

It’s just not fair howled the great American whiner!
Hey Sue, to bad, then get qualified. May take some time though and we can’t have that.

U.S. Housing Recovery Stymied by Government
Bloomberg- Jul 6, 2011

Sue Stamper, a business owner in Sacramento, California, wants to buy a home. After mortgage- financiers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac imposed the strictest loan standards in more than a decade, she doesn’t qualify.

Pam Crawford of Lyon Real Estate is trying to sell a three- bedroom bungalow on Sacramento’s east side for $179,000, a third less than what it went for in 2004. She hasn’t found a buyer even after cutting the asking price by $10,000 two weeks ago.

The two women, who haven’t met, illustrate the deadlock crippling the U.S. housing market five years into the crash: While a record share of Americans want to buy homes, U.S. policies, often working at cross-purposes, are making it more difficult. Government-controlled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have boosted standards so high that some people previously considered prime borrowers no longer qualify. That’s limiting a real estate rebound that also has been damped by a state attorneys general probe into foreclosure practices and an Obama administration loan-modification program that has fallen short of expectations.

“It’s very important for a robust recovery that we get the right credit standards,” said Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel-prize winning economist and professor at Columbia University in New York. “Giving out unsupportable mortgages was a disaster, and now the danger is overreacting and making the standards excessively high.”

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-06 11:58:57

“It’s very important for a robust recovery that we get the right credit standards,” said Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel-prize winning economist and professor at Columbia University in New York. “Giving out unsupportable mortgages was a disaster, and now the danger is overreacting and making the standards excessively high.”

If economists wished to study the horse, they wouldn’t go and look at horses. They’d sit in their studies and say to themselves, “what would I do if I were a horse?”

Ely Devons

“It’s very important for a robust recovery that we get the right house prices,” said jeff saturday, who did not graduate from college but once knew someone who went to Columbia University in New York.“Giving out unsupportable mortgages was a disaster, and now the danger is not allowing the market to correct by artificially keeping home prices excessively high.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:31:03

“Giving out unsupportable mortgages was a disaster,…

Again, I must be reading things wrong today, because PRIME defaults surpassed sub-prime last year.

You know, people who CAN support high payments.

 
 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-06 10:53:42

I’m seeing a new line realtors are using on their flyers: “Priced Right for Today’s Market.”

I, of course, take them to mean, “It’s really worth a whole lot more, so YOU’RE IN LUCK because it’s so low-priced.”

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:41:48

I guess “A deal compared to last year, but way overpriced compared to what’s coming” probably wouldn’t move many houses.

As much as we revile realtors, they, like vultures or dung beetles, may actually serve a useful function going forward (Sammy dodges hurled beer bottles and catcalls). As home sales and prices continue to drop, more and more NARsters are going to call it quits. The remants are going to be hungry and anxious to close deals, not market overpriced houses into perpetuity because greedheads won’t relent on their wish price. When a creditworthy buyer comes along the hungry NARsters won’t hesitate to throw their “clients” the sellers under the bus if it means a commission check. (If anyone out there is still foolish enough to believe a “buyer’s agent” is working for you, not colluding with the seller’s agent to make you pay the highest possible price, please raise your hand).

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 10:55:09

Orange Co. Fl. Mayor Proposes Budget Cuts, Layoffs

Orange County Mayor Teresa Jacobs submitted her first budget as mayor and proposed a $3.2 billion budget, which is 5 percent less than this year’s budget.

The budget suggests eliminating 60 positions, which would mean as many as 27 people could be laid off. The last time Orange County laid off an employee was in 2007.

While most county office budgets are being cut, the sheriff’s office will receive a $2 million increase. The proposed budget for the sheriff’s office is $180 million.

Sheriff Jerry Demings asked for the additional funds because of rising fuel costs, expenditures associated with the Casey Anthony trial and the upcoming 2012 NBA All Star game.

“The sheriff had some legitimate concerns about their costs,” said Jacobs.

Jacobs also suggested a one-time $1,200 bonus for all county employees. She said the employees are not getting raises and they are having a hard time paying for health care. The state is requiring a 3 percent employee contribution to their pension plans.

Commissioner Ted Edwards said he disagrees with the bonus checks.

“I think if we give money for health insurance it should go into their health insurance plan, otherwise if you give them a bonus and a few days that goodwill is gone,” said Edwards.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 11:00:48

and the upcoming 2012 NBA All Star game. ;-)

Ho ho, hah hah, hehehehehehe, BwaHaHaAhHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower™)

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 11:32:48

While most county office budgets are being cut, the sheriff’s office will receive a $2 million increase. The proposed budget for the sheriff’s office is $180 million.

Well, it is Otown after all. The one time I went to Disneyworld (in 2003) they checked ID’s before allowing you to drive or walk into any of their hotel properties. The feeling I got there was that once you left Disney’s private city that it was a lot more dangerous than it looked.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:04:26

The U.N. one of the larger wastes of time and money on the planet and a complete waste of real estate in N.Y.C. Looks like the new guy, Ban Ki-moon-bat has brought about some change.

~ U.N. Leader Ban Ki-moon Accused of Secretive Hiring Practices and Stonewalling | FoxNews.com

As Ban Ki-moon begins his second term as United Nations Secretary General, he has come under withering criticism from within the world organization over the way he hires and replaces top managers.

In a remarkably harsh report, a special U.N. investigative unit has charged that the way Ban chooses his most important managers is shrouded in excessive secrecy, that he keeps U.N. member states in the dark about top job vacancies, that he has created elaborate and arcane titles and functions, and skimps on detailed reference checks that could determine whether top officeholders are qualified to do their jobs.

Moreover, the inspectors say, the selection process has become so cumbersome that “appointments are not always made on time,” there is “almost no overlap between incumbents,” and that “ positions are vacant for long periods of time.”

They also charge that Ban’s methods are a step backward from the ways of his predecessor, Kofi Annan, who had promised to shed more daylight on the hiring process.

The two authors of the report, members of a small, elite U.N. evaluation team known as the Joint Inspection Unit, apparently had first-hand experience with Ban’s secretive habits.

They charge that Ban’s executive office stonewalled them in their mandated investigation of his hiring practices, refused them access to personnel files, proposed changes to their recommendations that would, as they put it, “simply eviscerate the entire report,” and contrary to normal practice refused to allow the authors to publish the Secretary General’s comments on their report.

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:15:46

“The ideological chasm in America today is a clear illustration of the old expression ‘a house divided cannot stand.’ ” ~Anon.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 12:48:50

‘a hou$e divided cannot stand’. ;-)

“Don’t increase the tax on the wealthie$!,…they’re $uffering $o.”

by an anonymous “TrueHypocrite™” $upporter.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 15:49:42

Poor rich people, let’s get rid of the minumum wage. That will make them feel much better.

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 11:15:51

lil’ Opie (the non-Hawaiian),…Destroyer of America!

AP / By ERICA WERNER - Associated Press | AP – Tue, Jul 5, 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says that families of service members who commit suicide are now getting condolence letters from the president just like families of troops who die in other ways.

The White House has been reviewing the policy since 2009, lobbied by some military families. A White House official said Tuesday that the change was made this week.

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:24:02

Safeguards Scant for U.S. Investors as Registered Advisers Increase by 39% - Bloomberg - Jul 6, 2011

Arnold and Cheryl Levy were a year away from retiring when Jeffrey Liskov, acting as their registered investment adviser, took a large position during July 2009 in a speculative fund with Arnold’s retirement money.

The Levys were dealing with an ill family member at the time and the trade escaped their notice until December of that year when Liskov alerted them to losses on the fund, the Levys said in a telephone interview. According to court filings they lost about $85,000 on the ProShares UltraShort MSCI Emerging Markets (EEV) exchange-traded fund, which placed bets that foreign stocks would drop.

“We were just beside ourselves,” said Cheryl, 67. She and Arnold, 69, of Stoughton, Massachusetts, felt they could trust Liskov’s judgment, she said. Actually, Liskov was sliding toward bankruptcy, and they had to absorb a 44 percent loss on the fund.

Registered investment advisers — firms that employ about 280,000 individual representatives nationwide — are billed as an alternative to traditional brokers because they are legally bound to a fiduciary duty to put their clients’ interests first, and typically charge fees instead of commissions. Brokers, who number about 632,000, are held to a suitability standard that their advice meet clients’ needs at the time a product is sold.

In practice, the lightly regulated RIA industry — where low barriers to entry helped swell membership by 39 percent in six years — may offer few protections for investors who wind up with incompetent advisers.
No Guarantee

Registering as an RIA “is just notifying regulators that you are holding yourself out as a professional investment adviser, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re good, or ethical, or competent,” said Sheryl Garrett, founder of Shawnee Mission, Kansas-based Garrett Planning Network Inc., a network of fee-only financial planners.

Inappropriate investments, high fees and an inability to collect on legal awards are some of the problems investors may face with registered investment advisers, according to attorneys such as Angela Magary, a Boston-based securities lawyer, who have represented clients in arbitration or court actions against their advisers.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 12:11:37

I guess I may be a bit cynical, but the term “registered investment adviser” doesn’t impress me. And it sure doesn’t inspire me to leave my money with one.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 14:37:42

I recall seeing a “definition” for a “financial advisor”: someone who invests and reinvests your money until it’s all gone.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:28:33

The “automatic” version: 401K

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:40:55

NEVER invest in something you don’t understand.

That’s what wrongs with this country. People used to invest their money in things they understood, which tended to be local business, thus creating jobs. It was one of the greatest lessons of the Great Depression. Invest in your community, not your bank.

Now they invest in some abstraction of a concept which invests in other conceptual abstractions, which itself, is invested in some other investment.

Change that, change the way people invest their money, and you take away Wall St’s power.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:28:59

Orszag: Why We Care About Price of Water in China
By Peter Orszag Jul 6, 2011 Bloomberg

An American trucker barreling down Interstate 95 bemoaning the high price of diesel fuel might never imagine that one of the things driving up his bill is the way water in China is being mispriced. But the truth is, water shortages are indirectly causing increased use of diesel generators for electricity in China, and that, in turn, is helping raise diesel prices in the U.S.

Smarter pricing could help China — and the rest of the world — avoid further problems allocating water resources, and mitigate some of the side effects.

Coal plants generate most of China’s electricity. Hydropower is the second-biggest source. Water is clearly essential for hydropower, but a lot of it is needed for coal power, too — to mine the raw material, to process it and then to cool the power plants that burn it. In 2010, coal-fired electricity in China used more than 30 trillion gallons (114 trillion liters) of water, or about 20 percent of the country’s total consumption. And over the coming decade, roughly 40 percent of the nation’s increase in water demand will be associated with coal power, China’s Ministry of Water Resources says.

This development is exacerbating an already severe shortage in China. The country accounts for about 15 percent of the world’s consumption of fresh water. Yet its supplies are limited, and pollution is a significant hazard.

According to the World Bank, the amount of water per capita in China is only one-quarter of the global average. Furthermore, about 80 percent of the total supply is south of the Yangtze River, while only about half the Chinese population lives there. So the north is chronically short. The North China plain, which encompasses both Shanghai and Beijing, contains more than 40 percent of the national population, but less than 15 percent of the water. In this region, the per-capita amount is only about one-quarter the level considered the minimum for people to live on.
Pollution Hurts

Widespread pollution exacerbates the situation. About 90 percent of the aquifers underneath major cities in China are polluted. More than 300 million Chinese lack access to safe drinking water, according to the World Bank.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 12:54:57

Hwy hopes to live long enough to see the Chinese Gov’t have to respond react to a “TrueLaoTzuMoment™” :-)

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:44:50

More bullcrap. Oil inventory is once again as high as it was in 2008, an amount also not seen since the 1990s.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:31:44

More property floods Dubai, Abu Dhabi rents drop 9%
Jul 5, 2011 ~ ARABNEWS

DUBAI: Oversupply continues to hurt the UAE’s property market with 18,000 new homes expected to hit Dubai’s market by year end and rents in Abu Dhabi dropping 9 percent in the second quarter, reports showed.

Some 2,000 homes were completed in Dubai in the second quarter and another 18,000 will be ready for occupancy by the fourth quarter, a report from property consultancy Jones Lang LaSalle said, adding that total current residential stock will rise to around 322,000 homes.

Office supply in Dubai is expected to grow by more than 30 percent over the next three years, it said.

Dubai house prices, already nearly 60 percent off their peak, are set to drop another 10 percent before stabilizing, Reuters poll showed.

Craig Plumb, head of research, Jones Lang LaSalle MENA, said, “Considering all real estate sectors in Dubai, performance was mixed this quarter, with some sectors - such as hospitality and retail - on the way to recovery, while others continue to decline. With GDP forecasts at 5 percent for 2011, Dubai’s economy is already recovering and general market confidence remains buoyant, which is illustrated by the over subscription of Dubai government’s new $500 million bond issue. Supported by improving investor confidence and increased liquidity, we anticipate progressive stability for most asset types.”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 12:18:04

I just finished reading a book about international immigration called Moving Millions: How Coyote Capitalism Fuels Global Immigration.

It included an interview with an Indian guest worker in Dubai. His characterization of the locals was not flattering.

They let the guest workers do all of the hard, dirty work while, as this man put it, they just ate, prayed, and fornicated. (He used a different f-word.)

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 13:15:45

They let the guest workers do all of the hard, dirty work while, as this man put it, they just ate, prayed, and fornicated. (He used a different f-word.)

Who needs houses? That sounds like the real American Dream.

 
Comment by butters
2011-07-06 13:18:54

Yes. I have travelled thru couple of ME airports; you will not see an Arab working in the airports at all, not in any capacity. Airlines and Airport support people were mostly Indians or Pakistanis. Duty free shops were managed by East Asians (Malaysians, Indonesians). Restaurants were primarily run by South Asians. Security and Laborers were mostly Nepalis. Someone later told me that Arabs rather have Nepalis (Mostly Hindus) provide the security than trust the fellow Muslims from India or Pakistan.

Comment by butters
2011-07-06 13:31:35

Exception, I saw quite a few Arab pilots.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 14:27:47

Probably very well paid. Airline pilots in Mexico are better paid than their US counterparts. When I lived there, being a pilot with AeroMexico or Mexicana was considered the Holy Grail. I knew guys who flew corporate jets (and who still pretty decent bucks) and that was the dream job.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:46:42

“Probably very well paid. Airline pilots in Mexico are better paid than their US counterparts”

Sad ain’t it?

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 11:43:36

Hundreds of Calif. state workers earn 6 figures
~ SFGATE

Sacramento — As California’s elected leaders took drastic steps to cut spending last year, the state was paying hundreds of its workers six-figure earnings that far exceeded base salaries, according to newly released compensation data for public employees.

The data, compiled by state Controller John Chiang, show that more than 500 state employees made more than $240,000 before taxes in 2010. The controller listed last year’s pay for all 256,222 state workers on his website, but did not include their names.

At least nine state workers made more than $500,000 last year - most of them prison doctors and other medical staff. The top 10 earners, combined, collected more than $5.8 million in 2010.

When Chiang’s office first released the data Tuesday morning, they reported the top earner as a prison system psychiatrist who made $838,706 last year. But later in the day, Jacob Roper, a spokesman for the controller, said that figure was erroneous. State officials are reviewing the payroll data and will update it as soon as possible, he said. Without that psychiatrist, Chiang’s database cites the top earner as a prison surgeon who made $777,423 before taxes.

Exceeding base pay

All of the top earners’ pay far exceeded their base pay, and state officials said some were the result of payouts to retiring employees who had racked up extensive paid time off over the years. Others received bonuses, such as the chief risk officer at the State Compensation Insurance Fund, who made $288,000 in a base salary but $561,072 in total wages. And others may have received payment from lawsuit settlements, said Paul Verke, a spokesman for the prison system.

The Chronicle reported in March that the state regularly makes six-figure payouts to retiring employees because managers do not enforce caps on the amount of paid time off an employee can amass, and over the years, that paid time off adds up.
Exorbitant city salaries

The database was made public last year, at first focusing only on the compensation of city and county employees around the state, said Roper. It was created after media reports revealed exorbitant public salaries for top managers in the small Los Angeles County city of Bell - including a city manager who made $780,000 in 2009. The revelations eventually led to criminal charges against some city leaders.

“After the scandal in the city of Bell, we realized that taxpayers needed a better idea of where tax dollars are going to provide services, and we thought this was a good way of getting the information to them,” Roper said. “It adds value at the local level, so we wanted to add state payroll data as well … to match what we did for the locals.”
CSU salary data

Also Tuesday, Chiang released compensation data for the 123,406 employees of the California State University system on the same website. CSU Chancellor Charles Reed topped the list at $399,326 in 2010 pay, while the other top CSU earners were nearly all university presidents making between $288,000 and $372,400.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 12:26:05

The data, compiled by state Controller John Chiang, show that more than 500 state employees made more than $240,000

For a grand total of $120,000,000. Regardless of whether or not these peoplr deserved their level of pay, that’s a drop in the bucket for the state’s budget (any large multinational has that many, if not more, highly compensate employees). It’s a story designed to distract people from the real problems.

 
Comment by Elanor
2011-07-06 13:02:07

At least nine state workers made more than $500,000 last year - most of them prison doctors and other medical staff.

Are they hiring? ;)

Comment by butters
2011-07-06 13:09:16

Is it really that high for a doctor? They make about the same on private practice, no?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:15:28

At least nine state workers

They make about the same…as all the x9 doctors… on private practice, no? ;-)

You might be on to something there Butter$

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-06 15:27:27

If we had National/One payer health care, Californians wouldn’t have to pay this much.

But, as we are so often reminded, we have the best free-enterprise health care system 20% of the GNP is allowed to buy. Such a deal.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 15:48:12

But, as we are so often reminded, we have the best free-enterprise health care system 20% of the GNP is allowed to buy. Such a deal.

Gotta love that invisible hand that provides us with the most efficient healthcare system in the world.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:26:31

Gotta love that invisible hand that provides us with the most efficient healthcare system in the world.

Hey, not only that, look at how quick they did it! :-)

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:48:11

Now you know where all the whining that “200K isn’t rich, don’t pick on us..” is coming from.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 12:39:34

Soon to be heard by panhandlers on the street corner… Hey brother can you spare a credit card.

As Plastic Reigns, the Treasury Slows Its Printing Presses
~ The New York Times

WASHINGTON — The number of dollar bills rolling off the great government presses here and in Fort Worth fell to a modern low last year. Production of $5 bills also dropped to the lowest level in 30 years. And for the first time in that period, the Treasury Department did not print any $10 bills.

The meaning seems clear. The future is here. Cash is in decline.

You can’t use it for online purchases, nor on many airplanes to buy snacks or duty-free goods. Last year, 36 percent of taxi fares in New York were paid with plastic. At Commerce, a restaurant in the West Village in Manhattan, the bar menus read, “Credit cards only. No cash please. Thank you.”

There is no definitive data on all of this. Cash transactions are notoriously hard to track, in part because people use cash when they do not want to be tracked. But a simple ratio is illuminating. In 1970, at the dawn of plastic payment, the value of United States currency in domestic circulation equaled about 5 percent of the nation’s economic activity. Last year, the value of currency in domestic circulation equaled about 2.5 percent of economic activity.

“This morning I bought a gallon of milk for $2.50 at a Mobil station, and I paid with my credit card,” said Tony Zazula, co-owner of Commerce restaurant, who spoke with a reporter while traveling in upstate New York. “I do carry a little cash, but only for gratuities.”

It is easy to look down the slope of this trend and predict the end of paper currency. Easy, but probably wrong. Most Americans prefer to use cash at least some of the time, and even those who do not, like Mr. Zazula, grudgingly concede they cannot live without it.

Currency remains the best available technology for paying baby sitters and tipping bellhops. Many small businesses — estimates range from one-third to half — won’t accept plastic. And criminals prefer cash. Whitey Bulger, the Boston gangster who lived in Santa Monica for 15 years, paid his rent in cash, and stashed thousands of dollars in his apartment walls.

Indeed, cash remains so pervasive, and the pace of change so slow, that Ron Shevlin, an analyst with the Boston research firm Aite Group, recently calculated that Americans would still be using paper currency in 200 years.

“Cash works for us,” Mr. Shevlin said. “The downward trend is clear, but change advocates always overestimate how quickly these things will happen.”

Production of paper currency is declining much more quickly than actual currency use because the bills are lasting longer. Thanks to technological advances, the average dollar bill now circulates for 40 months, up from 18 months two decades ago, according to Federal Reserve estimates.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 13:40:57

Indeed, cash remains so pervasive, and the pace of change so slow, that Ron Shevlin, an analyst with the Boston research firm Aite Group, recently calculated that Americans would still be using paper currency in 200 years.

I predict some sort of black swan will accelerate that schedule.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:10:48

Cash is in decline.

I’ll join your fear$ club when after putting in my $10.00 Fed Inc. promi$ary note for a train ticket, Hwy doesn’t get back any Susan B Anthony’$ or Sacajawea’$ :-)

the average dollar bill now circulates for 40 months

Wow, that happened just in the nick of time!

 
Comment by jbunniii
2011-07-06 17:33:58

At Commerce, a restaurant in the West Village in Manhattan, the bar menus read, “Credit cards only. No cash please. Thank you.”

Ha, that’s a nice change. The first time I visited NYC about 20 years ago, I remember many of the restaurants were cash-only, which was incredibly annoying.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:49:48

Yeah, yeah, been hearing this for 30 years.

The only thing in decline is money’s value.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 12:52:38

Investigation into APS cheating finds unethical behavior across every level
By Heather Vogell ~ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Across Atlanta Public Schools, staff worked feverishly in secret to transform testing failures into successes.

Teachers and principals erased and corrected mistakes on students’ answer sheets.

Area superintendents silenced whistle-blowers and rewarded subordinates who met academic goals by any means possible.

Superintendent Beverly Hall and her top aides ignored, buried, destroyed or altered complaints about misconduct, claimed ignorance of wrongdoing and accused naysayers of failing to believe in poor children’s ability to learn.

For years — as long as a decade — this was how the Atlanta school district produced gains on state curriculum tests. The scores soared so dramatically they brought national acclaim to Hall and the district, according to an investigative report released Tuesday by Gov. Nathan Deal.

In the report, the governor’s special investigators describe an enterprise where unethical — and potentially illegal — behavior pierced every level of the bureaucracy, allowing district staff to reap praise and sometimes bonuses by misleading the children, parents and community they served.

The report accuses top district officials of wrongdoing that could lead to criminal charges in some cases.

The decision whether to prosecute lies with three district attorneys — in Fulton, DeKalb and Douglas counties — who will consider potential offenses in their jurisdictions.

For teachers, a culture of fear ensured the deception would continue.

“APS is run like the mob,” one teacher told investigators, saying she cheated because she feared retaliation if she didn’t.

The voluminous report names 178 educators, including 38 principals, as participants in cheating. More than 80 confessed. The investigators said they confirmed cheating in 44 of 56 schools they examined.

Comment by Muggy
2011-07-06 13:24:35

The testing bureau or whoever is at the wheel (be it vendor or in-house) needs to be called out on that. There are so many security measures available that the only way that could have happened is complete neglect at the state level.

There are two simple measures to detect this: erasure rates and results comparisons to other tests (like AP, IB, ACT, SAT, etc.). This can be accomplished easily and without a ton of time/resources.

10 years? Wow.

Comment by Montana
2011-07-06 15:26:48

I believe they used erasure rates to uncover this to begin with. It’s been going on all around the country.

Comment by Muggy
2011-07-06 16:58:18

Yes, but ten years? The state of FL was all over a few districts here in the last few months for testing completed in spring 2011.
This is very similar to TBTF bank activity. Either you’re regulatin’ or you’re not.

This stuff is so easy to see.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 16:03:31

muggy….

we have to ask this, what was the racial make up of the schools involved?

Comment by Muggy
2011-07-06 17:02:33

“we have to ask this, what was the racial make up of the schools involved?”

Maybe not. You could probably look at economic status first. If cheating is a tool to escape poverty, expect people to cheat. Wasn’t this covered in Freakonomics?

Again, very much like TBTF; if securitization lets you put your shit in a bag for someone else to hold…

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:51:47

<”Area superintendents silenced whistle-blowers and rewarded subordinates who met academic goals by any means possible.”

But guess who’s going to get punished?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 12:55:56

Even U.N. Admits That Going Green Will Cost $76 Trillion
By Dan Gainor| FoxNews July 06, 2011

Two years ago, U.N. researchers were claiming that it would cost “as much as $600 billion a year over the next decade” to go green. Now, a new U.N. report has more than tripled that number to $1.9 trillion per year for 40 years.

So let’s do the math: That works out to a grand total of $76 trillion, over 40 years — or more than five times the entire Gross Domestic Product of the United States ($14.66 trillion a year). It’s all part of a “technological overhaul” “on the scale of the first industrial revolution” called for in the annual report. Except that the U.N. will apparently control this next industrial revolution.

The new 251-page report with the benign sounding name of the “World Economic and Social Survey 2011” is rife with goodies calling for “a radically new economic strategy” and “global governance.”

Throw in possible national energy use caps and a massive redistribution of wealth and the survey is trying to remake the entire globe. The report has the imprimatur of the U.N., with the preface signed by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon – all part of the “goal of full decarbonization of the global energy system by 2050.”

Make no mistake, much of this has nothing to do with climate.

The press release for the report discusses the need “to achieve a decent living standard for people in developing countries, especially the 1.4 billion still living in extreme poverty, and the additional 2 billion people expected worldwide by 2050.” That sounds more like global redistribution of wealth than worrying about the earth’s thermostat.

That’s because it is. The report goes on and says “one half of the required investments would have to be realized in developing countries.” In other words, $38 trillion would go to the developing world.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 18:53:29

Good thing traditional energy prices are dropping!

Oh wait…

 
 
Comment by The_Overdog
2011-07-06 13:23:12

Fun statistics about Canadian Housing prices:

http://www.rbc.com/economics/market/pdf/house.pdf

A house or bungalow in Vancouver requires around 80% of pre-tax household income.

The 80% is based on:
The measures are based on a 25% down payment, a
25-year mortgage loan at a five-year fixed rate and
are estimated on a quarterly basis for each province
and for Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton
and Vancouver-metropolitan areas.

25% down still requires 80% of your pre-tax income. No bubble? YEAH RIGHT!

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 13:33:45

bungalow in Vancouver

First thing that come$ to Hwy50’s “a California Yankee in Queen Anne’s court” mind is: “Any rental$ in this Canadian Enchanted Land?”

Comment by The_Overdog
2011-07-06 14:20:00

Well, the PDF file doesn’t have any info about renting, but owning in San Francisco requires a similar percentage of household income, and the rents there require the standard 30-40% of income, not anywhere near 80%. I think it’s a pretty safe assumption that Vancouver is the same.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:48:55

Hwy’s thinking about 10 day$$$ at the Oak Bay Inn would be $ufficient for a travelin’ Taoist gypsy. ;-)

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 14:20:58

And how can this be even possible in places like Calgary or Edmonton? These places are the epitome of flyover country, urban islands swimming in a sea of prarie.

Comment by Lola
2011-07-06 18:13:01

And how can this be even possible in places like Calgary or Edmonton?

It’s not.

According to the report, the long term average (since 1985) is 40.3% for Calgary and 34.1% for Edmonton. In Q1 2011, Calgary’s affordability index was 35.9% for a detached bungalow. Edmonton was 31.5%. Both lower than the long term average.

“Calgary and Edmonton are, in fact, the major Canadian cities where affordability is the most attractive.”

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 13:39:04

“We do have to make sure that there are computers in a computer age inside classrooms and that they work and that there’s internets that are actually — there are Internet connections that actually function. And I think that those states that are going to do well and those countries that do well are the ones that are going to continue to be committed to making education a priority.”

~ President Obama

Comment by butters
2011-07-06 14:01:42

At least he didn’t say “public education.”

The funny thing was this was the “twitter” townhall. Obama loves making history, doesn’t he? First ever president to own a blackberry. First ever president to do youtube. Now twitter. Com on dude, leave something for the next president. He has made his marks in the history and he will be remembered forever……in trivial pursuit that is………

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:57:27

Com on dude, leave something for the next president.

First president to state publicly: “He tried to kill my daddy!”

Cough up that $1.2+ Trillion Dollar$ hairball wmbz, you’re capable.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 16:26:13

My bad…Cough up that $1.2+ Trillion Dollar$ hairball wmbz, butters, you’re capable.

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Comment by butters
2011-07-06 14:08:12

Twitter townhall reminded me of a previous company I worked for. We used to have these monthly live sessions with the senior mgmt in a large auditorium. The senior mgmt suddenly dropped the live sessions in favor of bi-weekly Instance messaging chats. The reason was obvious; it was getting harder to lie in the face to face to interactions.

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 15:25:31

Just glad to see Barry’s forward thinking and that we need “internets”. So now there will be multiples? Or is that just to catch things?

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:01:37

In fact there are. While we tend to lump the whole system into one big concept, the Internet is heavily controlled by region.

China, Russia, US, South America, EU, Africa, ME, Australia. All the major continents and political spheres of influence tightly control their sector.

Also, there is currently construction of a complete parallel Internet based on P2P instead of centralized DNS’s.

This doesn’t even begin address which companies control which the “pipes” that carry the backbone (or backplane if you will) and by which you access the Internet with.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-06 16:12:35

Yah Big OH…clueless dope….we are so screwed

All of South Korea’s Textbooks to Go Digital by 2015

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/26960/

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 14:34:32

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/07/05/thieves-in-chatham-targeting-air-conditioners/

A few years ago when I was vacationing in Belize, I noticed that in even the most upscale neighborhoods, all the houses had their air conditioners protected by theft-proof iron cages. Now that America is sinking deeper into a Third World dystopia, better make sure your new house has physical security measures appropriate to the times. Introducing hope ‘n change scrap metal dealers can believe in.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 14:45:15

Introducing hope ‘n change scrap metal dealers can believe in.

Geez Sammy, thi$ type of thievery predates your anger & fear. Ripley’s Believe it or not,… even before Jan 20th 2009! ;-)

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:05:28

Lately metals theft has become an epidemic. Commodities are soaring in large part due to Ben Bernanke’s limitless money-printing and the Fed “loaning” trillions to the TBTF banks at 0.25% interest so the banksters and hedge fund trading desks can turn around and speculate in the commodity markets. Couple that with the ongoing disintegration of the real economy where real people used to be able to find real (not “stimulus”) jobs, and our fish-rots-from-the-head national moral degeneration, and people have far less compunction to emulate Wall Street and rip off their fellow man for a quick buck. Add it all up, and you can’t escape the conclusion that the national epidemic of metals theft is yet another manifestation of what hope ‘n change hath wrought.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:29:20

Add it all up, and you can’t escape the conclusion that the national epidemic of metals theft is yet another manifestation of what hope ‘n change hath wrought.

Really?…Me thinks it has to do more with “can’t-find-“TrueHypocrite’$™” non-reported-employment” by individuals not hangin’ ’round Lowe$ & Home De$pot,…lately. Seems they’ve adapted to current “on-the-street” eCONomic realitie$.

(PS, not only that, they $mart & clever as well, google: catalytic converter thefts.)

But hey, I’ll defer to your in$ights.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:47:42

http://www.coppertheft.info/

Learn something.

 
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2011-07-06 16:16:30
 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 16:31:59

Lately metals theft has become an epidemic.

My first trip to Brazil in 1988 a factory owner said his phone lines were stolen for the copper.

I laughed and said that sounds pretty third-world to me and that it doesn’t happen in the USA.

We’ve come a long way in America since 1988 with all of our deregs, tax cuts for the rich and Brazil level concentration of wealth. But at least Americans don’t steal stuff for the copper huh?

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Comment by cactus
2011-07-06 17:27:16

Commodities are soaring in large part due to Ben Bernanke’s limitless money-printing and the Fed “loaning” trillions to the TBTF banks at 0.25% interest so the banksters and hedge fund trading desks can turn around and speculate in the commodity markets. ”

yes isn’t that nice we are made to pay more for commodities with our own tax money well future tax money I guess

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-06 15:45:40

I don’t get why some focus on Obama. It’s not like Bush 2, Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, etc. didn’t play a role in getting us where we are today.

I for one harbored no hopes in a qucik turnaround with the new administration, and expected things to get worse before they got better. What disappoints me the most about Obama and the Dems in general is their overall spinelessness and inability to govern, just as I was disappointed with Bush 2’s mendacity and incompetence.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 16:10:24

The blame for our national decline goes back to at least 1913, when the Federal Reserve was created. The decline only accelerated with the Great Society, Vietnam, and Nixon taking us off the gold standard. “Shrub” Bush was an unmitigated disaster, and his re-election, after the epic incompetence of his first term, showed what collective slack-jaws the electorate had become. The 2008 election showed our national descent into IDIOCRACY was complete. If I happen to focus on Obama it’s only because he is the current President, and no President has been so completely servile to Wall Street or taken on so much debt and liabilities, while letting the Fed create trillions out of thin air. This cannot end well.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 16:35:59

This cannot end well.

Well, given what America is, and what “real” people/citizens who care about her have at $take, and at least x1 foreign neighbor with liked minded societal behavior “orientation” which is in-control and the Pacific & Atlantic oceans buffering her flanks,…eyes reckon Hwy will stand terra-firma & take it as it comes. You may do as you wish. :-)

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 16:12:36

What disappoints me the most about Obama and the Dems in general is their overall spinelessne$$ and inability to govern, just as I was disappointed with Shrub 2’s menWardacity and incompetence.

Then it appear$ “TrueAnger™” posturing comes down to citizen/taxpayer expenditure$ & ROI…treasure is a $cience, then how should we compensate for “blood-from-eagerne$$”?

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 16:14:44

What disappoints me the most about Obama and the Dems in general is their overall spinelessness and inability to govern, just as I was disappointed with Bush 2’s mendacity and incompetence.

You’re reading my mind. Again.

 
 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:07:06

Would have been more fitting on the 4th of July, but this may resonate with the non-sheep among us.

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/164-the-essential-rules-of-liberty

There is nothing worse in this world than an enslaved man who naively believes himself free, except, perhaps, trying to explain to that same man his predicament. You can lay truth after truth before his feet. You can qualify your every position with cold hard irrefutable data. You can plead and scream and raise veritable hell, but before he will ever listen, he must first become aware of his own dire circumstances. As long as he views himself as “safe and secure”, as long as he imagines his chains to be wings, he will see no reason to question the validity of the world around him, and he will certainly never invest himself into changing his own deluded destiny.

Unfortunately, there are many such men crawling and scraping about here in what was once a land graced with a self sufficient and independently minded public majority. The great lie that has been perpetuated in this country over the past several decades is that we can defer our responsibilities of vigilance and place our well being and our futures into the hands of others for the sake of “collective efficiency”, or leisure. We have been conditioned to live in a state of constant indifference, a society which prizes compromise over principle and steadfast resolve. Those who refuse to compromise that which is honorable for the sake of ease and comfort are indicted as “extremist” or even criminal. The idea of personal revolution is treated with discomfort, and all we claim to stand for becomes muddled in a fog of inaction and cynicism. As Americans, we have forgotten what it means to earn and protect our own freedoms. We have forgotten that in liberty, there are standards that must be defended.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 15:38:20

We have forgotten that in liberty, there are “standards-of-other$” that must be defended. :-)

Cui bono (”To whose benefit?”, literally “as a benefit to whom?”, a double dative construction) is a Latin adage that is used either to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for something may not be who it appears at first to be.

Jactura sempiterna Supplicium ;-)

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:50:32

Cui bono indeed. “Who benefits?” is something I wish people would ask a lot more frequently. Before we “liberated” Iraq, for instance.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:07:15

Bullcrap! We weren’t “conditioned”, we were effing FORCED!

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:17:48

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/125027704.html

More of that edgy downtown urban vibe.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 15:25:39

Real kicker’s at the end of the story:

Most of the 11 people who told the Journal Sentinel they were attacked or witnessed the attacks on their friends said that police did not take their complaints seriously. They each said police responded to the scene quickly and tended to the injured, but officers did not take statements from them and told them to leave the area.

“You’ve got 20-plus people giving eyewitness accounts. I’m very surprised that they said it wasn’t a mob,” said Mowrer.

Lange said he told an officer about the beatings but noticed the officer didn’t write anything down or note his name. Bublitz tried to tell an officer that her three-speed bicycle had been stolen and that one of her friends was hurt but said the officer told her he was looking for evidence.

“About 20 of us stayed to give statements and make sure everyone was accounted for. The police wouldn’t listen to us, they wouldn’t take our names or statements. They told us to leave. It was completely infuriating,” Bublitz said.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:56:12

If the cops don’t take a report, then from a crime stats standpoint a crime never occurred. Municipal politicians and police chiefs don’t like rising crime statistics, especially for violent crime. It makes it seem like their fair city has a problem. And we can’t have that. The cops’ stock answer to people who are victims of break-ins or armed robbery: “Report it to your insurance company.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:08:55

“They each said police responded to the scene quickly and tended to the injured, but officers did not take statements from them and told them to leave the area.

Nice to know selective enforcement is a universal trait.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-06 15:43:18

Yes but at least the police, other wise know as “public servants” will keep their pensions and that is far more important, because they deserve it for working so hard for the peoples. It’s only “fair”.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 15:57:20

Yes, because if I’m driving 5 mph over the speed limit I’m a menace to society, and a quick source of revenue by the way.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-06 16:07:00

You (we) are a low-risk, high reward target.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 15:26:55

I’m sure we’ve all heard of the stubborn home seller who insists that he/she won’t give it away. Well, guess what BofA is doing in Chicagoland.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-06 16:00:41

http://news.yahoo.com/scandal-erupts-over-power-mexican-union-leader-211718158.html

Looks like Mexico’s teachers’ union is cut from the same cloth as the NEA.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:10:53

Is it just me, or is she really scary looking?

 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-07-06 16:21:35

Other things to wonder about as screws tighten down on all these public health services. Just think the about thousands of untreated AIDS patients that will soon be mingling among us.

“AIDS clinic in rural Texas to close”
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/HIV-Clinic-Closing-125107234.html

A letter ARRT clients received in the mail “wishes them well” and “encourages them to seek” medical care elsewhere. It does not say where.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-06 16:51:05

Just think the about thousands of untreated AIDS patients that will soon be mingling among us.

Not to mention people carrying other diseases. TB comes to mind.

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-06 18:49:08

A letter ARRT clients received in the mail “wishes them well” and “encourages them to seek” medical care elsewhere. It does not say where.

That’s really creepy.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:20:58

Nope. That’s really Texas.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-06 18:50:20

A letter ARRT clients received in the mail “wishes them well” and “encourages them to seek” medical care elsewhere. It does not say where.

Good God. What a society. What a tragedy.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:19:44

You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

Actually, back in the 1980s, Texas lead the nation in closing hundreds of government mental health clinics.

So where did they go? Why jail, of course.

Nothing new here.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:17:45

For some odd reason, the wealthy think they will be able to bribe the next plague to leave them alone.

They are correct in assuming it will decimate mostly the poor, but forget that disease has no need of money and is the very epitome of “equal opportunity”.

What else they forget is that if the poor are decimate, labor costs will go through the roof. It is often correlated that because the Black Plague created such a huge labor shortage, it fueled the Renaissance by giving the average person more access to capital and giving rise to a middle class not seen since the Roman Empire. A middle class that was very creative, inventive and *gasp* socially liberal.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-07-06 17:15:24

“Rochester has taken the top spot in a new national ranking of the most livable and affordable areas of the country.”

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110706/BUSINESS/110706015/Rochester-area-ranked-most-livable-bargain-market-U-S-

I’m hearing the voice of Ben.

“It’s all about jobs.”

 
Comment by Neuromance
2011-07-06 17:40:40

Impressive video of the Phoenix dust storm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4Cx44XKZ4

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-06 17:55:04

Get out there and help ‘em, they’re… $uffering $o! ;-)

As recovery lags, corporations prosper–and lobby for more:
By Zachary Roth | The Lookout / 8-hours ago

Call it a tale of two economies. Across a range of measures, the current “recovery” is among the weakest since the government began keeping records. Meanwhile, American corporations, which already have been raking in massive profits, are poised to report strong second quarter profits. And despite that imbalance, one economic commentator notes that those same corporations are still lobbying for more tax breaks–concerns over the deficit be damned.

So, things are bleak–but not for American companies and shareholders. The Journal reports separately that according to an analysis by Brown Brothers Harriman, second-quarter earnings for companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index are expected to rise by 13.6 percent compared to a year ago, when they’re announced later this month.

That news comes after U.S. companies reported record profits last year. And rather than using that cash to hire workers, they sat on more of it than ever before.

Given all this, you might expect that corporations would at least be doing what they can to help solve the deficit problem that many experts say imperils the long-term stability of the economy. But as David Leonhardt of the New York Times observes today, the opposite is the case.

Leonhardt uses as an example the Business Roundtable, a trade group that’s generally seen as moderate, and talks about the deficit problem in sober, restrained tones. But lately, he writes, its actions are telling a different story:

Rhetoric aside, it consistently lobbies for a higher deficit. The roundtable defends corporate tax loopholes and even argues for new ones. It pushes for a lower corporate tax rate. It favors the permanent extension of the Bush $hrub tax cuts. It opposes a reduction in the tax subsidy for health insurance, a reduction that was part of the 2009 health reform bill. Oh, and the roundtable also favors new spending on roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-06 19:24:48

“Oh, and the roundtable also favors new spending on roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

Ah “capitalism”. Give us free stuff from the government while we pontificate on being self reliant and keeping government out of our business.

Nope. No hypocrisy here folks!

 
 
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