July 13, 2011

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 04:26:58

Realtors Are Liars

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-13 04:33:44

REPORT AIR DATE: July 5, 2011

Raze the Roof: Cleveland Levels Vacant Homes to Revive Neighborhoods

PAUL SOLMAN: In Cleveland, Ohio, someone’s former home — since foreclosure, though, it’s been stripped of anything you can sell, is not even worth the price of the wood left behind.

So, down it goes, an ever more common answer to the housing crisis: Clear the blight for alternative use. Foreclosures hit especially hard here, hit especially early, and quadrupled in a decade, making Cleveland a test case of the tear-it-down approach.

Cleveland alone hosts some 13,000 vacant homes, and the numbers keep piling up.

GUS FRANGOS, Cuyahoga Land Bank: In the next several years, it’s probably going to be about 20,000, 30,000 more like this in the county.

PAUL SOLMAN: Gus Frangos runs the county land bank, created to put property back to productive use. But, 80 percent of the time, that first means demolition, $7,500 to level a place this size.

GUS FRANGOS: Naturally, we don’t want to be just demolishing stuff forever, but before you can stabilize something, you have to stop the hemorrhaging. And so we have to bury the dead.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/makingsense_07-05.html - 64k -

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-13 06:27:13

Wait till they have to do 100,000 demos in FlooRiddaH because of the Chinese drywall and black mold…..lots of newly created OhBahhMa stimulus jobs….what a country!

Comment by AV0CAD0
2011-07-13 15:54:27

O was in the drywall business?? When?

You have to blame all of them, not just Bush or O.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-13 17:33:52

Yeah but OH has got to be a man about it……you cant put the homeless or sect 8 in them, and its costs to much to repair….so demo them and salvage whats left….jobs jobs hobs

Just like Gay marriage means JOBS for the wedding industry….sometimes you just have to suck it up..

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Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-13 06:48:58

Pretty sad that Cleveland’s biggest “industry” is health care. They’ve got a couple widget makers (Eaton, Parker Hannifin) that are nominally headquartered there and Progressive Insurance. The health-care-industrial-complex centered on University Circle is now the biggest “business” in town.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:46:21

A very dear friend had personal experience with the Cleveland Clinic. At the time of her encounter with them, she was dying from, as she put it, six fatal diseases.

The treatments at the clinic did nothing to help her. What did help was her stepson, who urged her to start reading Adelle Davis’ book, Let’s Get Well.

She read the book. And she put it to work in her own life. Like the title suggested, she did get well. That was during the late 1960s/early 1970s.

By the time I met her in 1982, she was in her early sixties. She was quite a gifted yoga instructor. And a bit of a health nut.

We’ve fallen out of touch, so I don’t know if she’s still alive. But, when I last saw her back in 1995, she was still going strong.

 
Comment by CincyDad
2011-07-13 08:51:23

And that Health-care complex around University Circle keeps growing and growing, taking over the neighboring buildings with each move. Each time I visit the (wonderful) museums in the area, I’m amazed at the new medical facilities.

And it doesn’t stop at University Circle. Major medical facilities now dominate the western suburbs. And they are making tie-ins with the communities some 40 miles further west where my in-laws live.

Pretty soon Cleveland may be one giant medical complex, and unfortunatly, it’s not instrument making.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:29:17

Drunken Master (naked in a bathtub):

“Follow the crane$!”

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:42:49

Why not use the vacant space for community gardens?

Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 11:02:48

“Why not use the vacant space for community gardens?”

Since there is no money to be made, community gardens aren’t “worth” anything.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 12:34:19

A good idea, however….

First off yes, there is no money to be made.

Second, down the road there is a very high probability of property ownership dispute.

Third, for some reason, many neighbors don’t want community gardens. (I’ve seen this first-hand)

Comment by AV0CAD0
2011-07-13 15:55:43

Hippies like to garden!

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Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 16:44:35

So do farmers and everyone in all generations for the last 5000 years except the last two.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 16:50:19

Damn hippies!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 04:40:39

Is Murdoch losing his grip on Britain? Sounds like he more or less controlled the country, using the police to track by cell phone whomever he wished to attack- including politicians, and even the royal family- and using private investigators to hack into people’s email accounts and computers, and even break into their homes, with, until now, apparently complete immunity (even cooperation?) from law enforcement.

It makes one wonder what he’s been up to here in the US.

Perhaps his schemes and dreams for right-wing control of government will go up in smoke with his burning Rosebud.

Comment by Xenos
2011-07-13 04:45:53

But… Soros!

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 04:49:46

… and poor people!!

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 05:09:25

I’ve always thought newspapers were in the ideal position to be in the shakedown business in that their reporters are privy to lots of information that could do great damage to individuals/groups/businesses, information the editors/owners could use to great advantage.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-07-13 08:05:40

Remember ol’ Sam Zell? He dumped several billion $ of Real-estate at the top of the market in 07′ and then bought the LA-Times. He then did a purge of the staff, crushed the union and got a huge tax kick back on top of that. Zell=Murdoch.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:26:57

Sam Zell?

Yep, additionally: “he’s old too..” ;-)

(Looks like he knows where to $ink his $quid Inc. beak too)

Samuel “Sam” Zell (born September 1941) is a U.S. real estate entrepreneur. He is Chairman of Equity Group Investments, L.L.C. (EGI) egizell the private, entrepreneurial investment firm he founded more than 40 years ago. EGI’s investments span industries and continents, and include interests in real estate, energy, logistics, transportation, media, and health care.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 10:20:16

Under the burden of the debt incurred as part of Zell’s leveraged buyout, the Tribune Co. filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization in December 2008.

But, but, but…eyes thought the “Bidne$$-moral$” teaching was thu$: “You $igned the lea$e, you pay$” ??????

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 04:49:03

Am I supposed to choose a side here?

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Pickens Losing to Koch in Billionaires’ Natural-Gas Feud
By Jim Snyder - Jul 12, 2011 6:40 PM ET (Bloomibergi)

T. Boone Pickens, 83, who’s been saying for more than a year that Congress was poised to pass his plan to subsidize natural-gas vehicles, may not have been expecting opposition led by fellow billionaire Charles Koch. …

Koch Industries Inc., Dow Chemical Co. (DOW) and the American Conservative Union all have weighed in since May against a Pickens-backed bill that would provide tax breaks to purchase natural-gas fueled trucks. The critics say it would provide unwarranted subsidies to companies such as Clean Energy Fuels Corp. (CLNE), a Seal Beach, California, maker of natural-gas fueling stations in which Pickens is the biggest shareholder.

“We do not believe government should be picking ‘winners and losers’ in the marketplace,” Phillip Ellender, president and chief operating officer for government and public affairs at Koch Companies Public Sector LLC, a subsidiary of Koch Industries, wrote in a June 23 letter to Congress.

Charles Koch, 75, is chairman and chief executive officer of Wichita, Kansas-based Koch Industries, which calls itself one of the world’s largest closely held companies. He is also a co- founder of Americans for Prosperity, a group that says it advocates limited government and opposes the natural-gas legislation.

Koch’s company imports crude oil, gains from ethanol subsidies and is in the fertilizer business, which benefits when natural gas is inexpensive, Pickens said.

“We oppose all government mandates and subsidies because they artificially skew economic signals about price and demand, thereby creating inefficiencies that divert resources from productive activities to politically favored ones,” Ellender said in an e-mailed response to Pickens. “To add a new subsidy in these times of increasing unemployment and economic hardship for so many Americans is irresponsible and bad public policy.”

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There’s so much arrogance here on both sides, I don’t know where to start. Government shouldn’t be picking winners and losers? Heck, gov does that any time they award a contract or a grant to somebody over somebody else, on a minute-ly basis. Oppose subsidies? I’m all for it. Let’s start with poltically favored ones like the ethanol subsidy and TARP and AIG. Skew demand? I notice that all of their money is from speculating in “needs” like crude oil or transport fuel or fertilizer for food. Constant guaranteed demand to buy a product that you “need” is a form of monopoly. Markets should be skewed away from monopoly.

The only advantage to all the robber-baron stories is that these guys are OLD. Murdoch is old, Ailes is old, the Kochs are old, Pickens is old, Cheney is old, Buffet is old, Soros is old, Volcker is old, Greenspan is old, even Phyllis Schafley is old. The younger generations parrot the old talking points well enough, but they seem not to have much innovation or business acumen of their own to keep it all going. They’re the type to blow the family fortunes, not add to them.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 05:05:28

I am against all subsidies, except those that benefit me. That seems to be a common theme.

Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:20:47

Any subsidy that decreases our reliance on the Middle East is bound to be cheaper than fighting 4 wars over there.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-13 05:20:41

The vultures are picking the remaining meat off the carcas of the Neo-Environmentalist movement.

 
Comment by michael
2011-07-13 05:28:24

google “young billionaires”.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 05:34:39

“Am I supposed to choose a side here?”

There is some great irony in watching Pickens- who funded the swift boat crap about Kerry- get hoisted on his own petard by the even-more-right-wing Kochs.

 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-13 06:54:34

They may be old but Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, et cetera spring up to keep the fascist-corporatist agenda moving ahead.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 07:29:13

Koch/founder + “Americans for Prosperity”

= “TruePathtoMaintainthe$tatu$Quo™” - (”we’re $uffering $o!”)

;-)

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 07:57:22

Ryan is a puppet and Cantor doesn’t seem to be all that smart.

I may have to look at their ugly mugs for a while, but I don’t see them as movers and shakers. They prefer to sit in an air-conditioned office and be bought off.

Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-13 08:32:47

Ryan is a puppet and Cantor doesn’t seem to be all that smart.

But neither are there constituents…

+1 for Thomas Frank’s ‘What’s The Matter With Kansas’

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 10:13:17

“Not long ago, Kansas would have responded to the current situation by making the bastards pay. This would have been a political certainty, as predictable as what happens when you touch a match to a puddle of gasoline. When business screwed the farmers and the workers - when it implemented monopoly strategies invasive beyond the Populists’ furthest imaginings — when it ripped off shareholders and casually tossed thousands out of work — you could be damned sure about what would follow.

Not these days. Out here the gravity of discontent pulls in only one direction: to the right, to the right, further to the right. Strip today’s Kansans of their job security, and they head out to become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing you know they’re protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there’s a good chance they’ll join the John Birch Society. But ask them about the remedies their ancestors proposed (unions, antitrust, public ownership), and you might as well be referring to the days when knighthood was in flower.”

(Frank, T. 2004 “What’s the Matter with Kansas?”, pp. 67-68)

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 04:50:07

California companies fleeing the Golden State

California companies, including PayPal, have been expanding or relocating outside the Golden State. PayPal recently opened a facility in Arizona.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Buffeted by high taxes, strict regulations and uncertain state budgets, a growing number of California companies are seeking friendlier business environments outside of the Golden State.

And governors around the country, smelling blood in the water, have stepped up their courtship of California companies. Officials in states like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Utah are telling California firms how business-friendly they are in comparison.

Companies are “disinvesting” in California at a rate five times greater than just two years ago, said Joseph Vranich, a business relocation expert based in Irvine. This includes leaving altogether, establishing divisions elsewhere or opting not to set up shop in California.

“There is a feeling that the state is not stable,” Vranich said. “Sacramento can’t get its act together…and that includes the governor, legislators and regulatory agencies that are running wild.”

The state has been ranked by Chief Executive magazine as the worst place to do business for seven years.

“California, once a business friendly state, continues to conduct a war on its own economy,” the magazine wrote.

That is about to change, at least if Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom has anything to say about it. Newsom is developing a plan to address the state’s economic Achilles heels, and build on its strengths. It will be unveiled at the end of July.

“California has got to get its act together when it comes to economic development and job creation,” he said.

While not all companies investing elsewhere are doing so for economic reasons, some are shopping around for lower costs, lighter regulations, stable leadership and government assistance and incentives.

The most popular places to go? Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Virginia and North Carolina, said Vranich. All rank in the Top 13 places to do business, according to Chief Executive.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 05:25:18

Gavin Newsom is lieutenant governor? If he runs and wins the governorship, that’ll scare the beejeebus out of conservatives. Newsom is a successful businessman, and known for allowing gay marriages and signing universal health care while mayor of San Francisco. Imagine if he managed some kind of universal health care in the State of California. Small businesses will be moving IN to California, not out.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-13 06:49:10

“Small businesses will be moving IN to California, not out”

Seriously? Along with all the indigents?

Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 08:01:04

Well that’s going to be interesting. How do you keep the non-citizens out of the single-payer tax system?

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:22:46

Require a state ID.

 
Comment by measton
2011-07-13 12:16:11

2. Require 5 years of residency
3. Require having a job prior to loosing it, ie you can’t move there when unemployed.

 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:51:19

Imagine if he managed some kind of universal health care in the State of California. Small businesses will be moving IN to California, not out.

California One Care is already kicking some major butt in this area. Add this to the fact that Vermont is already making huge strides toward single payer, and we have the start of a monster trend.

Remember this: As California goes, so goes the nation.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-13 10:07:44

As Cali goes. Good point. Very good point. As Cali goes so goes NY next methinks.

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Comment by 2banana
2011-07-13 07:20:25

The most popular places to go? Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Virginia and North Carolina, said Vranich. All rank in the Top 13 places to do business, according to Chief Executive.

Hmmmm

What do ALL these places have in common?

Or - what do they have that California does not have?

Without jobs - there is NO recovery and the will be no rebound in housing prices.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 08:04:56

Well, we’ve had a Democrat Governor for quite a few years now (first Ritter, then Hickenlooper). Of course, if you listen to the local right wingers here in the Centennial state, those Democrat governors are marxist, job killing, union goons.

Not too long ago Frontier Airlines’ parent company tried to extort money from the state to keep a maintenance center in Denver. IIRC, it would have amounted to close to $30K per job, per year. The answer was no and Frontier moved it out of state, to another state that was willing to pay the extortion fee. The right wingers howled that Colorada was “business unfriendly”.

Anyway, I seem to recall reading the other day that Colorado is currently ranked #5 as “business friendly”

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:51:34

The right wingers howled that Colorada was “business unfriendly”

Let’s compare x2 Denver building$:

Denver International Airport (with auto baggage redo)
Union Station

:-)

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:24:05

Prop 13?

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:49:21

California companies, including PayPal, have been expanding or relocating outside the Golden State. PayPal recently opened a facility in Arizona.

All I can say is, I hope that the PayPal employees are all single and childless. Because if they’re married and have kids, they’ll be appalled at what passes for public education in this state.

Ditto for needing healthcare here. I hope they never need any. Reason: All the state budget cuts, and corresponding cuts in federal matching funds, have turned our healthcare system into a real clusterfark.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 09:18:14

All I can say is, I hope that the PayPal employees are all single and childless. Because if they’re married and have kids, they’ll be appalled at what passes for public education in this state.

We have some friends who move to Tucson in the early 90’s.

They placed their two boys in parrochial school, all the way through high school.

Ditto for needing healthcare here. I hope they never need any. Reason: All the state budget cuts, and corresponding cuts in federal matching funds, have turned our healthcare system into a real clusterfark.

You mean Adam Smith’s invisible hand didn’t fix it?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 12:21:39

In grad school I was teaching the recitation period for a freshman course — in fact, much of it they should have learned in high school. One of my students, who had transferred from AZ, told me that it this was a typical sophomore class at AZ State. No wonder it takes these jokers 5 years to finish a degree!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 12:24:06

And, sorry to say, your experience is all too typical. There isn’t a thing I’ve seen here that’s made me regret going to the University of Michigan.

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Comment by Max Power
2011-07-13 14:44:41

Having spent a year at ASU prior to getting my degree from the University of Michigan, I wholeheartedly agree. My classes in high school (in Michigan) were harder than my freshman classes at ASU.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 15:08:11

My classes in high school (in Michigan) were harder than my freshman classes at ASU.

I can remember one of my U-M classmates talking about her high school chorus. At one point, Dr. Smith (the choral director) stopped the performance and turned around to apologize to the audience.

Why? Because the chorus’ performance wasn’t good enough.

This was at a public high school in Michigan. In Livonia, if memory serves correctly.

The above is one of many public high school stories I heard while at Michigan. And I was impressed.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 04:54:38

A friend of mine has had a house in Costa Rica for about 15 years now, he has told me for a long time how much was being developed down there. Appears another corporation has found the place. So long U.S.A.

Argyle plant will be closed - The Times Union

ARGYLE — Medical instruments maker Covidien, the former Tyco Healthcare, will close its Argyle plant in the next 12 to 18 months, eliminating 200 jobs.

Work will be shifted to an existing plant in Mexico and a plant being built in Costa Rica, a spokeswoman said.

The plant closing is the latest blow for the so-called Catheter Valley, where several medical instruments makers have produced catheters for decades.

In February, another catheter maker, C.R. Bard, said it would cut 200 of the 950 jobs at its Glens Falls plant in 2011.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 05:01:32

Argyle is my families back yard. Catheter manufacturing grew rapidly in Wash. Co. since the late 60’s but has waned since early 1990’s. Dairy is kaput. Paper kaput. Catheter kaput.

Now how long have I been saying here that the post-industrial decline of NY/VT border towns would resume?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 05:31:41

A lot of high end work is going to Costa Rica. Cubicle dwellers are paid a lot less of course, not to mention factory workers.

Meanwhile our collective national suicide continues.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:53:22

Meanwhile, Indonesian workers are doing online searches and finding how little they are paid.

Can you say “strike” in Indonesian? They are.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:46:10

heheeeheeeheehaahaaahaaheeehaahaaa… (Hwy50™)

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Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 10:39:09

look for the union label

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 12:50:12

I love it!

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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 04:59:47

A little bit of good news for some property owners, in regards to property tax’s.

ITEM: St. Johns water district facing major layoffs as director faces retirement
Before retiring, he must slash $46 million, reduce 130 jobs.
- Jacksonville.com

St. Johns River Water Management District officials detailed plans for far-reaching layoffs Tuesday at the same time the agency’s longtime leader announced retirement plans.

Kirby Green, the agency’s executive director for 10 years, agreed to stay until May but could leave earlier if a successor is in place.

One of Green’s last duties will be overseeing layoffs and spending cuts needed to shrink the agency’s budget from this year’s $255 million to the $209 million the district’s governing board tentatively approved Tuesday for a 2012 budget that takes effect Oct. 1.

The agency expects to cut about 130 of its 718 jobs — 18 percent of its staff — to save about $12 million, said Teresa Monson, a district spokeswoman. The cuts are driven by directives from Gov. Rick Scott and the Legislature to lower taxes and focus on the agency’s core duties.

The agency would lose “hundreds of years of institutional memory,” making it more difficult to manage the district, St. Johns Riverkeeper Neil Armingeon said.

“It’s a hard job, and I think it’s going to get nothing but harder, frankly,” Armingeon said.

Budget, taxes shrink

The agency is responsible for managing water resources in 18 counties, including issuing water-consumption permits to communities and businesses and protecting water quality.

The agency’s proposed 2012 budget lowers its property tax rate, so that the owner of a homesteaded house worth $200,000 would pay $49.69 in taxes, compared to $62.37 under the current rate. The agency’s $209 million budget also draws on leftover funds and money from sources including timber sales, cattle leases and permit fees.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-13 06:40:31

I don’t know what to think on one hand its good to cut and lower taxes, but then 18% less people for a vital service like water…and it saves the home owner a LOUSY $1 per month..and some of that is from left over funds?

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-13 07:01:45

I have a relative who works for a water/sewer utility and he has a lot of stories about how little work is done by most of the staff. They either use their work computers to run businesses or day-trade or play poker, or they just don’t show up a good bit of the time.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 09:20:07

I suppose that it depends on the utility.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 05:00:22

So Ron Paul finally gets the chairmanship he wanted, finally gets some of his ideas taken seriously, finally gets discovered by the masses and the MSM, and now he’s going to quit?

Do you ever get the feeling you’ve been had?

Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 05:26:43

Ron Paul is also getting OLD.

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 05:31:36

75

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:27:35

He is getting gerrymandered out of office by presidential hopefull Rick Perry.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 09:20:23

good point

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 12:34:26

From Wiki:

“Perry supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic presidential primaries and was chairman of the Gore campaign in Texas.”

Republicans have long memories — at least long enough to remember the Reagan years. Rick Perry has an uphill battle ahead of him.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 12:54:29

Perry is now the Republican governor of Texas… for the second time.

 
 
 
 
Comment by SV guy
2011-07-13 05:35:32

Do you expect the man to work until his last breath?

He has, hopefully, generated enough of a base to continue the effort. I think he has accomplished this.

‘Do you ever get the feeling you’ve been had?”

Yes, every day. Been that way for me for a loooong time.

 
Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 05:38:31

He’s going all in for the presidency, probably going to work harder than he ever has.

But, since his published stance in favor of shamnasty, yeah, I feel I’ve been had.

Comment by Overtaxed
2011-07-13 05:48:41

Palmy,

All due respect, but I really think that immigration, abortion, and religion are just “herrings” that the political folks throw out there to divide the population. Simple fact of the matter is that none of them are going to be able to stop this problem. You can agree with what some folks SAY, but their actions are simply not going to amount to a hill of beans in the overall issue.

It cracks me up when they ask candidates about abortion. They could be all for it (shoot, we should all have one tomorrow) or totally against it (death penalty for saying the word).. Simple fact of the matter, it’s a irreversible procedure that takes one visit and is legal in most of the world. Even if you did somehow get it outlawed here, people would just go to Canada/Mexico and get it done there. The real “debate” is “Should poor people be allowed to get abortions”.

What’s far more important to me (as a voter) is the things that the President actually can impact. Deficit spending, personal rights, taxes, and the right to live without overreaching government authority.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 07:02:26

OT, your point is well taken and I understand only too well the “divide and conquer” tactics of the ruling effetes, business and political. I watched as our gov Rick Scott here in Florryduh bamboozled everyone with his campaign promise to bring the Arizona immigration law to Florida and then sat back with a shrug of his shoulders as the head of the Florida senate (Republican, with major agricultural business interests) shot the whole thing down.

I couldn’t care less about abortion or religion, I think they are “social issue” diversions so that the effetes can pick the pockets of the public.

But immigration is not a “social” issue as such, to my mind. It is economic and has everything to do with the rule of law and our continued existence as a nation. It is social to the extent that it does divide people along cultural lines, though.

My argument is not so much with the illegal immigrants themselves, although I could say plenty about their effect on a couple of the modest but formerly pleasant little neighborhoods in this area. My argument is with the politically correct supporters of the invasion, the businesses that benefit, the local do-gooders who fawn all over the hordes that have come to inhabit the area. If the effetes wanted to divide me from some of my neighbors, they’ve accomplished it. Because if I knew of someone who has, in any way, supported illegal immigration through attitude, activism, charity or even ignorance, I would not lift a finger to help them if they were in trouble.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:42:35

the “bidine$$es” & qua$i-wealthie$ that benefit$

Evidently Meg Whitman slipped out of this “Bidne$$es” meeting: ;-)

Root-Cause Analy$is numero-uno

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 08:55:51

Even if you did somehow get it outlawed here, people would just go to Canada/Mexico and get it done there.

Which is exactly what happened before abortion was legal in this country.

Here in AZ, there were doctors who had colleagues in Mexico who would do the procedure. All a woman would have to do was slip across the border for a few hours.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 08:07:35

But, since his published stance in favor of shamnasty, yeah, I feel I’ve been had.

“Libertarians” are to my understanding in favor of “open borders”. No surprise there.

 
 
Comment by Overtaxed
2011-07-13 05:42:43

Well, it depends. If he somehow manages to win the Republican ticket, then I most certainly won’t feel that I’ve been had. However, if he runs again (for president) and doesn’t make it all the way, I’d much rather have him in his current role than not in the public spotlight at all.

Bernanke is doing a little “Happy Dance” today after reading that news; now he can finally return to Fed SOP “Dazzle them with big words because they are all too stupid to understand what you’re saying”. RP would rip him apart regularly, a position that the Fed is simply not comfortable in. Shine light on what they do and it all somehow seems to stop..

I’m not 100% a RP supporter. But, let me just say, if he somehow manages to get on a major ticket, I’ll be dragging my a** out to vote for him. If he can get the Republican bid, I think he stands a good chance of winning. However, most of his ideas are totally counter to Republicans (they are only fiscially conservative when it suits them, and RP is very socially liberal (he’s a libertarian!), telling the moron Republican base that “gays should be able to marry” and “pot should probably be legal” will get them all up in arms). And yes, I’m a Republican, so I think it’s fine that I call some of my fellow Republican’s “bible beating morons who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag”.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-07-13 07:59:24

Ron Paul just asked Bernanke if gold was money?

Ben: No.

Paul: Why do central bankers world wide hold gold then?

Ben: Tradition.

BlueStar: Clueless!

Gold: $1586 (+24.30)

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:42:10

China / India et. al.: “we’ve got Gold!”

2.6+ Billions human energy intake processors: “enough to buy how much food?”

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 12:36:09

Gold gold everywhere, nor any blue gold to drink.

 
 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 10:05:47

telling the moron Republican base that “gays should be able to marry” and “pot should probably be legal” will get them all up in arms).

Up in arms? Maybe but IDK about all of them. Some of them respect him for the other stuff he says.

I think it would be more like their eyes would glaze over, they’d get all confused and quiet and then they’d start stumbling around mumbling stuff.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:05:55

Big Thinkers… We’re on it!

Big thinkers tackle debt solutions at Aspen Festival
- CNN MONEY July 13, 2011

President Barack Obama’s offer to reform federal tax policy would get a resounding thumbs-up from a number of the economic veterans who spoke at the 2011 Aspen Ideas Festival earlier this month.

Unfortunately for Obama, each would likely say tax reform by itself simply isn’t enough to resolve the debt crisis and get the economy on track.

At the festival, sponsored jointly by The Aspen Institute and The Atlantic magazine, many spoke enthusiastically about a list of recommendations for a debt solution hammered together last December by a bipartisan committee chaired by retired Senator Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and former Clinton administration economic adviser Erskine Bowles.

Those recommendations call not only for tax reform but for fixes to the budget process, Social Security, health care spending in the private and public sectors and an increase in mandatory retirement-savings programs.

Here is an overview of the comments from some of this year’s participants, a gathering of what The Aspen Institute calls the world’s “most inspired and provocative thinkers, writers, artists, business people, teachers, and other leaders.”

ALAN GREENSPAN, Former Federal Reserve Board Chairman

The deficit — not the debt ceiling — is the country’s true critical issue, said Greenspan, who went on to call the debt-ceiling debate a “synthetic,” or even false, argument because the government has already spent the money that’s part of the needed increase in the debt ceiling.

In many cases, Greenspan said many federal programs (such as Cash for Clunkers) have increased the deficit without creating long-term growth. The free markets should be able to correct themselves, he added.

He, too, supports the Bowles-Simpson tax reforms, which would lower corporate income tax rates while eliminating tax loopholes. However, a proposal to raise taxes for individuals who make over $250,000 simply “stokes class warfare,” Greenspan said.

AL HUBBARD, Former Economic Adviser to George W. Bush

Social Security has “to be put on sound footing” by increasing the eligibility ages and changing middle- and upper-class allocations, Hubbard said.

Defense spending “clearly can be made dramatically more efficient,” he added. Also, income taxes must be reformed by broadening the tax base and closing loopholes.

Hubbard offered some proposals on federal funding of state and local programs that are as innovative as they are controversial. He’s opposed to revenue-sharing programs from Washington to state and local governments. Additionally, he said some $600 billion could be saved if states funded and managed their own transportation, education, Medicaid and unemployment programs.

Hubbard said both the George W. Bush and Obama administrations didn’t do the economy any favors by trying to prevent a swift decline of home prices. Housing values should fall accordingly, and the markets will correct themselves, he said.

And unemployment benefits? “We pay people for up to two years not to work,” Hubbard said, “yet studies show that the majority of people get a job right before their unemployment runs out.”

Comment by SV guy
2011-07-13 05:37:40

“Big thinkers tackle debt solutions at Aspen Festival”

Why can’t these f*ckers meet at the Cleveland Motel 6?

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 06:09:02

“Why can’t these f*ckers meet at the Cleveland Motel 6″?

Well when you have a really large brain you need wide open spaces to think the big stuff. Plus a 5 star resort offers a superior thinking climate compared to a motel 6. At the 6 some hooker may be getting banged in the room next door and that may interrupt some really big thinking.

Plus when it’s on someone elses dime it pays to take your big thoughts to the lap of luxury. Where you can consume some champagne & caviar well know to induce some huge thoughts. World problem solving takes time and a whole lot of other peoples money.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-07-13 08:27:31

In the next 30-40 years a new humanoid will emerge from the secret labs that will have super intelligence. To regular homo sapiens these ‘people’ will seem to be gods and they will be right. The future has been written.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:37:15

There are no wide open spaces in Aspen.

There is a Starbucks now.

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Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-13 06:57:11

Maybe because while all animals are equal, some are more equal than others?

Like WoMBatZ said, they’re carrying both those big brains and the weight of the world on their shoulders. Shame on an average man for questioning anything the elites do.

 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-13 07:03:54

Per city-data DOT com, Aspen is 95.8% white and has a median house/condo value of $873,592.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-13 07:13:24

The American Berchtesgaden?

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Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:40:47

The workers live in trailers just on the other side of the airport.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 09:36:24

Or down in Glenwood Springs.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 11:51:12

“The workers live in trailers just on the other side of the airport.”

Greg Brown’s “Boomtown” explains this phenomenon to a T.

 
 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 05:42:53

“a proposal to raise taxes for individuals who make over $250,000 simply “stokes class warfare,” Greenspan said.”

It also simply raises a lot of money to pay down the debt, from the people who can most afford it, and who have benefited the most from the new economic order. But we can’t even talk about it. It ’stokes class warfare’, and that’s that.

Do benefit cuts that affect everyone else other than the rich not stoke class warfare too?
(’No, silly rabbit. The only class that can have warfare waged on it is the upper class. All other classes are fair game. It’s globalism, and fairly complicated, so we won’t bother to explain it to your lower class mind.’)

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 06:31:31

“a proposal to raise taxes for individuals who make over $250,000 simply “stokes class warfare,”

first…the increase would apply to households making more than $ 250K a year and not just indivudals.

second…this does not stoke class warfare.

selling a tax increase on households that make more than $ 250k a year as a tax on “best selling authors and jet owners” does stoke class warfare.

why the hell…some frackin reporter will not stand up and say “mr. president…why do you think a married couple with 3 kids in manhattan that makes $ 300k a year are jet owners…are you that out of touch?”

politicians are liers.

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 06:34:04

liars even.

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Comment by MightyMike
2011-07-13 07:28:56

What do these people mean when say “class warfare”? The phrase is thrown around, but is devoid of meaning. It’s just something people say when they have no subtantial argument that they can offer?

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 08:09:51

It’s when the elites declare war on wage earners and then accuse wage earners of engaging in class warfare. In the same way criminals blame the victim.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 09:00:42

class warfare = asking the rich to pay even slightly more in taxes

cutting the benefits and raising the taxes of everyone else = finally ‘getting real’ about the budget deficit

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 09:41:08

If there is “class warfare” the elite 1% have brought it upon themselves.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 10:07:42

Exactly. The 1%er class warfare reminds me of the typical GOP tactic of really $#@%ing something up and pointing at it and saying “look how #$@%ed up that is” as if they were surprised.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 10:18:01

“a proposal to raise taxes for individuals who make over $250,000 simply “stokes class warfare,”

I’m confused. I mean this was only a year ago. Who got to Greenspan?

“I am in favor for the first time in my memory of raising taxes,” Greenspan told an audience at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York Reuters 9/15/10

Raise taxes now — the elders of the economy say so cnn 8/10/10

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/09/news/economy/elders_economy/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — First it was Greenspan. Now one by one, other elders of the economy are speaking out against deficits, and they’re making the surprising argument for higher taxes.

Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan was first and has taken the most extreme position, arguing that all of the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 should be allowed to expire.

Greenspan, no fan of big government and an initial backer of the Bush tax cuts, allows that higher taxes now could lead to slower economic growth, but has said that chipping away at the deficit is more important.

Joining him — at varying degrees — are David Stockman, former budget director in the Reagan White House, and former Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Paul O’Neill

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-13 10:21:13

Only progressives and other fringe nuts would believe a household earning $250k per year is rich. You would have to raise taxes on every income bracket to have any substantial increase in revenue, that is the dirty little secret the armchair redistributionists will not tell you. They (the progressives and other fringe nuts) want that extra 3k per year from middle class families, they got to have that gubmint health care and nobody is going to stop them.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 10:26:22

Why do you champion the cause of your masters? Is wage slavery really your only goal in life?

Why?

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 10:45:29

Only progressives and other fringe nuts would believe a household earning $250k per year is rich.

Preach it bro! You’re finally catching on. They are not rich making 250K. They are poor. I’ll explain.

50% of American workers make about 25K per year. A person making 250K per year only makes 10 times that. A person who makes 250K per year only makes 10 times as much as half of Americans and 10 times as much is squat.

After all state local and federal, property taxes etc, a person making 25K a year has about 19K to live on and a person making 250K only has about 190K to live on but if we let the Bush tax cuts expire that person would only have only 188K to live on and 50% of American workers would still have 19K to live on.

188K is not 10X the 19K anymore. It’s only like 9.9X! What a wealth re-distribution rip-off!

Therefore the family making 25OK would be 2K poorer and “poorer” does not mean rich.

Therefore a person making 250K per year is poor and we should continue to cut their taxes to re-distribute the wealth from the 25K dudes to the 250K dudes because we gotta keep people from getting the health-care as you mentioned.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 10:48:52

I would be rich on$250k, but then I’m an old hippie who doesn’t need much not even drugs.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 11:05:16

Therefore the family making 25OK would be 2K poorer and “poorer” does not mean rich.

LOL! Why, they might have to buying a slightly less expensive Audi or Lexus next time!

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 11:06:46

I would be rich on$250k, but then I’m an old hippie who doesn’t need much not even drugs.

OMG Where do I start? OK……

Hippies are socialists.

Hippies who don’t need much are communists.

Hippies who don’t need much and make 250K per year are probably some tenured, subversive ivy league professor, never had a real job armchair redistributionist fringenut.

And people who don’t need drugs can’t even come close to relating to my favorite AM radio hero Rush Limbaugh. Dittos.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 11:54:41

“Why do you champion the cause of your masters? Is wage slavery really your only goal in life?”

The best slave is the one who doesn’t believe he’s a slave.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-13 12:42:36

$250k for a household is not rich, for and individual perhaps, but to what degree? You have a beef with the banksters and corporate fat cats, they make far in excess of $1,000,000 per year…They are rich and I am not saying they should not pay taxes.

The problems with progressives and other fringe nuts is that no amount of revenue will suffice, there will always be another program, union or social justice (still not sure what that means) cause that needs more money.

A lot of the fees and taxes the progressives support and implement are currently crushing the very poor they champion. Sales taxes approaching 10%, municipal water rates increasing upwards of 50%, food taxes, gasoline taxes, cigarette taxes, add-ons, surcharges…Where does it stop?

As for my so called masters, I don’t give a s..t about them, I work and they pay. If I don’t like the arrangement, I move on. I am far more concerned with my real masters in Washington who collude with private corporations to steal from me and decrease my liberty.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 13:42:40

“my real masters in Washington”

Those guys are chumps compared to who is really in charge.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 13:52:01

The problems with progressives and other fringe nuts is that no amount of revenue will suffice, there will always be another program, union or social justice

This sentence shows “all or nothing,” and “with me or against me” type thinking.

For example “progressives and other fringe nuts”

All progressives are not fringe nuts and all fringe nuts are not progressive.

no amount of revenue will suffice

Same thing. There are many progressives proposing solutions where “revenue will suffice”. They just divide the pie differently.

With an open mind you might learn something from them.

 
Comment by Kirisdad
2011-07-13 13:54:28

Nick, I live in the NY metro area and I think you’re right, $250,000 is not rich, but it is well-off. Those families that earn 250k can certainly afford a few extra thou in taxes. Bottom line Nick, you gotta be effing kidding me!!

 
Comment by Montana
2011-07-13 14:07:11

Why do you champion the cause of your masters? Is wage slavery really your only goal in life?

That’s a good example of class warfare rhetoric right there. It attempts to set one class against another, thus taking the heat off the PTB.

Thanks, RAL.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 14:34:52

Yes it does set one class against another….. Your masters are against us.

Get it yet?

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 14:45:45

“It attempts to set one class against another, thus taking the heat off the PTB.”

Actually, I think that he (correctly) re-frames the argument: the PTB are the rich and powerful, not those who must cater to the demands of the rich and powerful to get re-elected. The elected pols are just Stepin Fetchits. The bureaucrats who bounce from private to public “service” are not. But it’s not “dee gummit”.

As Warren Buffett said, “There is class warfare and my class is winning”.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 14:48:50

That’s a good example of class warfare rhetoric right there. It attempts to set one class against another, thus taking the heat off the PTB.

You got it wrong. Class warfare is the only way to put heat on the PTB.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-13 15:13:28

“Bottom line Nick, you gotta be effing kidding me!!”

Nope, I am not effing kidding you. Let’s say you have 2 earners in one household making $125k each, they would each be considered upper middle class individually and far from rich. Depending on deductions they could very well pay half of that in combined taxes. I can see where a person making substantially less would classify them as rich.

The real rich make hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars per month and laugh at the middle class.

 
Comment by Kirisdad
2011-07-13 17:04:16

I didn’t say rich Nick, I said well-off. I think the well-off should be able to help out with an additional $1,800/yr in taxes. Especially, when the really well-off will kick in $18,000 and the stinkin’ rich can kick in $180,000 extra. Keep that second car an extra year.
I’ve been getting stuck in an awful lot of traffic jams lately. Older cars broken down, blown tires etc. Makes life a bitch to commute. We all share the same roads and the working poor are maxed out. No money for car maintenance.

“….very well pay half that in combined taxes” $125,000/yr in taxes ???? come on now, do you know how silly that sounds. Even with that, it’s over $10,000/mo take home. Like I said, well-off.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-13 22:31:09

I can EASILY live on $30k per year and be quite happy. If I made $250k per year, I could bank more than $100k per year after taxes. $250k per year is still a lot of dough.

 
 
Comment by polly
2011-07-13 07:55:57

They also would pay all of $1800 a year more in taxes ($300K-$250K x 0.036). And that is only if they don’t take any deductions or exemptions (not even the standard ones) and don’t use any method for deferring tax like putting it in a 401(k) or a flexible spending account.

As a general rule, I’d say that a married couple with 3 kids in Manhattan wouldn’t pay any additional taxes at all.

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Comment by michael
2011-07-13 08:02:40

politicians have been pissing on my leg and telling me its raining for too long.

he is being disingenuous when he speaks about his proposed tax hikes on “jet owners”. it is unbecoming and tells me much more about his overall character.

he is not “hope and change”…he is a snake in a suit…just like all the rest.

if you want to raise taxes…fine…make your case without trying to mislead the electorate.

 
Comment by polly
2011-07-13 08:37:53

You do realize there are several different proposals out there, don’t you?

One involves closing some loopholes specifically related to jet ownership, taxing hedge fund managers at long term capital gains rates for the money they received for managing funds of investors, etc. That is the one that is referred to as additional taxes on jet owners. And it is part of the “small deal” for getting around $2 trillion in cuts/revenues.

Not raising taxes on people making less than $250K of taxable income is an old pledge and there may have been tax increases on people making over $250K (taxable) that were proposed for the “big deal” for over $4 trillion dollars of cuts/revenues. The big deal died over the weekend.

The $2 trillion one still seems to be on the table, though the revenue increases from closing the hedge fund manager and jet owner (and a few other) loopholes are still flat out rejected by Cantor, and Boener is being forced to go along (though I suspect he might perfer to declare victory and go with it).

If you want to get angry, get angry at actual facts, not some completely inaccurate conflation of several different plans.

Though, of course, if you are just peeved that someone, somewhere might think people with over $300K of family income should pay a tiny bit more in taxes to keep the system that has benfited them so greatly working, you can just say so.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:59:09

Though, of course, if you are just peeved that someone, somewhere might think people with over $300K of family income should pay a tiny bit more in taxes to keep the system that has benefited them so greatly working, you can just say so.

Dear Polly,
If you do decide to go to your local “TrueAnger™” PeeParty tea toadlers soiree, please hold your tongue, otherwise your hearing equipment may not be the same.

Regards,
Hwy50

 
Comment by cactus
2011-07-13 09:52:48

Though, of course, if you are just peeved that someone, somewhere might think people with over $300K of family income should pay a tiny bit more in taxes to keep the system that has benfited them so greatly working, you can just say so.

I don’t get this ? Of course I don’t make anywhere near that amount and probably never will

everyone’s going to have to pay higher taxes one way or another I’m afraid. probably eventually the mad Printer will get his Inflation bailout of debt nation, and we will all get paycuts because of it, its like a tax.

 
Comment by michael
2011-07-13 10:44:56

my biggest trouble with the 250k plan is that there is a rush to tax those because “they can afford a little more”.

the 250k proposal is on ordinary income…wages.

ultimately it is my opinion that ordinary income, social security, medicare, and unemployment taxes are a cost of employment. increaseing the cost of employment will have a negative impact on the economy.

does that mean i believe there is any solution that will not have an adverse effect on the economy? no.

i think that the greatest benefit from favorable tax rates has been obtained not from ordinary income earners but from passive income earners…mainly dividends and long-term capital gains. it is in this area that i think obama has the greatest opportunity to lead.

if his statements regarding “corporate jet owners” is his way of communicating this disparity to the citizenry…then i stand corrected. i do think that his position with respect to “corporate jet owners” and married couples making over 250K should be clarifiied by him or his administration and not muddied over during a debt ceiling debate.

i respectfully have to disagree with the notion that the 250k a year tax increase is dead.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 10:46:02

i think that the greatest benefit from favorable tax rates has been obtained not from ordinary income earners but from passive income earners…mainly dividends and long-term capital gains. it is in this area that i think obama has the greatest opportunity to lead.

Seconded!

 
Comment by polly
2011-07-13 12:10:48

“i respectfully have to disagree with the notion that the 250k a year tax increase is dead.”

It is dead as an actual vote. Boehner would not even let that get to the floor. Of course, if could never even get out of the appropriate House committee at this point.

It is on the table in a way, because there will be an increase when the Bush tax cuts expire. That will be on people under $250K as well, but will be a larger amount of increase (probably not a larger percentage increase) on the higher earners. The current administration would let those cuts expire on people making more than $250K but retain them for those making less. The current House would never pass that as they would prefer everyone pay more than be on record as voting for a bill that allows the rates to go up on the over $250K crowd. But all that is quite a bit into the future. At this point, the deal that would have allowed an increase on the over $250K segment has been rejected. It could come back, but it is not being discussed right now as far as I know.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:36:39

first…the increase would apply to households making more than $ 250K a year and not just indivudals.

Wherein is that “proposal” stated?

or it this:

x1 = $250,000 + x1 = $250,000 = $500,000

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Comment by michael
2011-07-13 11:44:57

everthing i have read places the 250k threshold at the “married filing joint” status.

if there is something to the contrary then i am un-aware.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 13:31:00

However, a proposal to raise taxes for individuals who make over $250,000 simply “stokes class warfare,” Greenspan said.

IDK, eyes was referring to this quote above from Sir Greenis$pent on top of this thread.

 
 
 
Comment by measton
2011-07-13 12:22:17

Of course CEO’s will continue to get paid in dividends adn stock options and insurance contracts and pay much less. This is there attempt at targeting the only members of the working class that have kept their head above water. Doctors Lawyers Entertainers athletes middle management etc

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 12:56:19

Festival? Is that what they call tax write offs now?

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 05:07:44

Interesting new ad that has replaced the screaming mud-faced banshee:

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Take advantage of these historically-low profits rates today by completing the form and an experience Account Executive will contact you immediately.

Historically low profits rates? Hey, at least they’re honest! Maybe there’s something to this sharia.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 05:26:03

IIRC, chrging interest is ilegal under sharia, so they come up with “creative” ways of charging interest. From what I red on wikipedia te arrangement is similar to “rent-to-own” agreements.

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 05:33:44

yep…they structure it as rent.

wonder what allah’s attorney’s will think about that ruse.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-13 06:25:30

“similar to “rent-to-own” agreements.”

One of the few people I know who have made- and kept- a fortune in RE is an old guy who for decades has been buying crappy little houses for cash, having his crew fix them up, and then ’selling’ them to people as rent-to-owns. He charged more than the market price for the houses, but he financed them, and this allowed (in the old days of not-so-easy credit) people to buy houses who otherwise couldn’t get a mortgage. His rates were usually a couple points above prime, but his tenants were free to pay him off at any time they could get a better mortgage. If they ever failed to pay him, the house reverted to him, without need for foreclosure etc. He then sent his crew in to fix them up, and ’sold’ it to another hopeful couple. He did require I think 10% down.

He told me once he’d bought and sold over 300 houses, and that was years ago. I assume many of those transactions involved the same house, being resold to successive wanna-be homeowners.

Kind of like rent-to-own furniture, where the same $200 dollar couch gets ’sold’ for $400 to ten different people who all make about $150 each in payments before giving it back, so you can steam clean it and ’sell’ it to the next rube. If someone ever pays it off, fine, it was overpriced to begin with.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:28:28

Hwy knows an “acquaintance” that used this similar “strategy” on a Dairy-Queen type “bidness” in KS. Believe they “got it back” around 4x’s

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 09:04:00

The house right behind me was offered as a “rent to own” last fall. This was trumpeted on various hand-letter signs that were planted around the neighborhood.

For some strange reason, nobody fell for it. The house got rented to a bunch of students last October. The hand-lettered signs finally vanished during the winter.

Except for their end of the semester blowout, which featured partying kids chasing each other through my neighbor-to-the-east’s yard and one lovely lass perching on my fence as a lookout, they were okay. Not great, just okay. They moved out last month.

Since the kiddies moved out, I’ve noticed the owner and his wife/girlfriend/whatever doing quite the cleanup. Which has included things I’ve never seen them doing. Like calling a commercial cleaning service in to do the carpets.

I don’t know if they’re fixing the place up to sell. In addition to the R2O flop, the place has been on the market twice. I thought it was priced too high, and I guess that’s why it didn’t sell.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:18:27

carpets + students + rental

Who sharpens the landlords #2 pencils?

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 09:43:29

Who sharpens the landlords #2 pencils?

Y’know, I was tempted to ask that very question while I was washing my dishes this morning. Because I spied someone bustling around the house-to-the-north’s.

Ah, yes, it was the owner’s his wife/girlfriend/whatever. She was probably over there to move the cans out to the curb for the weekly pickup.

And, judging from the overflowing condition of their trash can, a pickup was very much needed. Unfortunately for this young lady, the trash pickup had already happened. Around here, you need to get your cans out at the crack of dawn, not at 7:30 a.m.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 11:05:13

Considering the heat wave over much of the country, I would think trash men would want to on the road as soon as it got light. I always put ours out the night before. That way I don’t have to worry about missing them. Most weeks it wouldn’t make much difference though. In Jan we had so much snow that they missed an entire week of running. It didn’t affect me at all.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 11:08:14

We have been spared the heatwave. Lots of afternoon thunderstorms have been cooling us off. The downside of course is that we could get a tornado.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-13 11:55:01

Or hail. I guess a bunch of cars got trashed in Cheyenne in the last day or two.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 05:13:17

Florida’s governor Rick Scott.
Public workers here really hate him, (the usual suspects, cops, firefigthers, teachers, benefit recipients, etc.) especially the $100+K public pension crowd. Which makes me think that he’s doing at least a reasonable job. Any more info on that character other than that he took $X million in campaign contributions from XYZ corporation and is now passing legislation in their favor…I mean they all do, so that’s a given.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 05:19:04

“… I mean they all do, so that’s a given.”

And there lies the root of our problems.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 05:29:37

So he’s taking from the public servants and giving it to the corporations. Sounds like a hollow victory for the taxpayer, maybe even a pyrrhic victory as now even more of his neighbors will be broke and will default on their mortgages, further driving J6P underwatwer.

 
Comment by Kirisdad
2011-07-13 14:16:51

My sister makes 48K, as a FL HS teacher, with 13 years experience. You think she’s milking the taxpayers? Oh I forgot , there’s no income tax in FL., so how much tax are you really paying Mike? I bet those billionaires hiding out in FL, could afford to pay something. You freaking people amaze me. How about going after the double dippers? they’re usually well-connected politically and off-limits to scrutiny. TAX THE WELL-OFF AND LEAVE THE WORKING CLASS ALONE!!!… rant off. One more thing, F@CK Rick Scott.

 
 
Comment by TCM-guy
2011-07-13 05:20:59

Hello everybody – I’m baaack!

Just completed the first summer session – finished my last math course I need for my degree…

I have a tale of a former co-worker from my days in Chi-ca-go, a Trump wannabe. He has several rental houses in the chi-town area, but all of them are big time losers. He has one purchased as a fixer-upper, where he “invested” $400k in it, not including his own labor. He says it may be worth $250k in the current market.

I like it when the RE people say “not including my own labor,” as if their labor is irrelevant. If you spend your time and effort taking care of a crap shack then why do these hours of your life not count for anything? The mindset of these RE fools is Hillary-ous.

Well, guess what. He bought a Florida crap shack for $20k cash, sight unseen. He is down there in FL right now realizing his mistake, says it looked lots nicer in the pictures. Built in the 40’s - ancient plumbing, electrical, windows, roof, etc… The property next door was purchased as a tear down and is now getting a new house. He doesn’t have the money to tear down and build new, so he probably will slave away with countless hours of his worthless labor, trying to fix up what should be torn down.

This example goes to show you the depth of this RE programming/brainwashing. Other than his little RE misunderstanding, he is a sensible and logical kind of guy. I have given up trying to talk sensibly with these people about RE. I do not have any deprogramming skills and I am OK with my limitations; so I let them spiel away until the diarrhea is frothing at the mouth. I’m glad to say this doesn’t bother me anymore; I now find it to be very amusing.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 05:42:33

Hi, TCM! Congrats on completing the course.

Florida crap shacks always look a lot nicer in the photos.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 05:59:13

*Last year* one of our carpenters bought a $40k dump in Spring Hill, Fl, sight unseen.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 07:05:06

Spring Hill, bwahahahahaha! Sinkhole City. Wait’ll a hole opens up on his property.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 07:48:39

Sunken Hill?

He was convinced Spring Hill was the place to be. Laughing at his saga of buying a house sight unseen was the best.

 
Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 09:16:46

“a house sight unseen”

Sink Hill. If one of those holes opens up on his property, the house will really be “sight unseen”. Sinkholes swallow houses, cars, livestock, you name it.

 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:42:42

“This example goes to show you the depth of this RE programming/brainwashing”.

It takes a loooong time to turn the RE thought process around. A lady my wife knows is planning on buying her college age daughter a condo and sell it after she graduates to help pay for school.

I thought I had heard the last of that crap 2 years ago!

Comment by Montana
2011-07-13 06:28:47

lol but that was other people, somewhere else…

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-13 06:30:33

Depends on where the kid goes to school. No, they won’t be able to make a huge profit, but if they can find a cheap $50K condo, take in roommates, and resell it for $52K, they could save some money on room and board. Might be a better gift than the car that kids usually get for graduation.

Assuming they don’t trash the condo.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-13 09:23:59

Sure, the unwinding of the Great Credit Expansion is over. Condos will now appreciate “normally”. Your nesting instinct is taking over to convince your brain it is the time to buy.

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Comment by SDGreg
2011-07-13 10:59:54

“Depends on where the kid goes to school.”

That could matter even more now. If the university is downsizing, that can’t bode well for condo prices. But renting one could be cheaper than campus housing.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 09:08:36

A lady my wife knows is planning on buying her college age daughter a condo and sell it after she graduates to help pay for school.

On Euclid Avenue, just south of Speedway Boulevard, there sits a condominium complex. I believe it’s called Arizona Commons.

Four or five years ago, it was an apartment house that got converted into condo. Bus stop signs heralded the wonders of this place. Why, you could buy one, then rent out rooms to your fellow students! Is that cool or what?

Well, that was then.

Nowadays, if you should happen to be parking in the University of Arizona parking garage across the street, you’ll look down on a forest of “for sale” signs.

So much for that hot investment idea…

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 05:46:24

Thank you TCM. Great story.

The depth of the housing delusion is staggering. The best treatment plan for housing psychosis is the complete and utter financial implosion of these zombies. And that is exactly what they’re getting.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:19:03

He doesn’t have the money to tear down and build new, so he probably will slave away with countless hours of his worthless labor, trying to fix up what should be torn down.

He just needs to acquire “patience”:

Hurricane + Insurance + photo-shop enhanced jpg’s = Standing sobing in front of a local news camera “My house,… my beautiful house, oh me, oh my…” ;-)

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:04:50

“I like it when the RE people say “not including my own labor,” as if their labor is irrelevant.”

Because if they acknowledge that ANY labor is relevant, that means they have to pay the sub-contractors they are trying to stiff.

Another reason I got out of the game. RE agents and Trump wannbees are NOTORIOUS for trying to stiff anyone working for them.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:29:56

Differing Approaches to Debt Crisis
Bill Bonner
Reckoning from Paris, France…

“Panic in markets caused by debt crisis,” says the headline in the French newspaper, Le Figaro.

Which debt crisis, we wondered?

In Europe, no sooner was one can kicked down the road than another one showed up. Greece disappeared from the headlines. Italy took its place.

We haven’t studied the Italian problem in any detail. It may not be a problem at all. But the amounts are larger – too big to bailout, according to one report.

Europe seems to be taking a tried and true approach to its debt crises. It kicks the can down the road a few times. Then, when it has exhausted bad choices, it turns to a good one. Having run out of foolish and phony solutions, in other words, the authorities are taking up one that works. They’re telling Greece to drop dead. The latest news: Greece will be allowed to default.

Of course, you knew that was the thing to do from the get-go. Remember Gerald Ford’s famous reply to New York City in the ’70s? New York was on the verge of bankruptcy. So it appealed to Washington for a bailout. Ford, who had more sense than any major politician since, responded: Drop dead. And if he didn’t actually say that, he should have. For those were “les mots justes” – exactly the reply that the occasion called for.

Having no other recourse, NYC had to shape up. Which it did. It got rid of many of its unionized zombies…cut expenses…and the Big Apple was a better place for it. (It didn’t hurt that New York was also the center of America’s financial industry, which began a historic boom a few years later.)

Greece would be a better place too if its pols would stop spending more than the people can afford.

But now we turn to the other part of the world with a debt crisis – that part of the world which sits between the world’s two large oceans, and between the 49th parallel and the Rio Grande. Yes, dear reader, we are talking about the USA.

Yes, the USA still has plenty of bad choices to make before it is finally forced to make a good one. Sometimes a great empire goes broke. Sometimes it is defeated militarily. Usually, it suffers both calamities before coming to its senses.

So, dear reader, make sure you put yourself and your wealth out of harm’s way. And lay up a good supply of alcohol and anything else you might need to enjoy the show. It’s going to be exciting.

The problem for the USA, in a nutshell, is that there is no one to say ‘drop dead.’ New York had Washington. Greece has Germany. Philip II had Sir Francis Drake. Custer had Sitting Bull. But who does the USA have? Abroad, its armies meet no effective opposition. At home, its spendthrifts run wild.

Perhaps most important, it has a printing press with no lock on the door.

Eventually, bond investors will have their say. But that could be far in the future…long after the nation has done itself irreparable harm.

Yesterday, we reported that people are coming around to our point of view. They’re beginning to realize that these are not ordinary times. The recession was not ordinary…and we have no ordinary recovery. What’s more, the slump looks like it will last for years. Even the Secretary of the Treasury seems to see it that way.

Investors are still bullish. They’re heavily invested in stocks at very high prices. They see high earnings and no reason for the bull market to falter. What they don’t realize is that those high earnings are part of the problem. First, because earnings are ‘mean reverting.’ When they are low, they are likely to go higher; when they are high, they are likely to go lower. And second, because the earnings represent efficiencies which actually herald a weaker economy. A business increases its earnings by spending less on labor, for example. The result: working people find fewer jobs and earn less income.

Investors still don’t realize what is going on. They have largely recovered their stock market losses from the ’07-’09 crisis. But the economy has not recovered. Working households – especially those in the middle – still have huge losses on their houses. More than $7 trillion has been lost so far…and the losses continue to grow.

And it is harder than ever to find a good job. Two years after the recovery supposedly began, and real unemployment is going up.

Can QE3 be far away?

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 05:44:56

“Yesterday, we reported that people are coming around to our point of view.”

This is why I am an optimist, why I think we are saved.

Up until 2006 or so our country was on the road to doom. Now we are in the process of changing roads.

The Fourth Turning and all.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 11:20:07

Up until 2006 or so our country was on the road to doom. Now we are in the process of changing roads.

How? IMO the only changing roads would be default. These bailouts, proposed and enacted minor cuts combined with no real revenue increases do not seem like changing roads. The seem more like band-aids on a broken leg.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 15:06:50

The seem more like band-aids on a broken leg.

I agree. I don’t see the ship turning at all.

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Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-13 06:04:48

A debt-crisis is only a problem until the bailout.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:12:49

Excellent liz! That made Hwy’s day…

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:38:06

If we want to watch a movie we go to the Library and check them out. Of course they will not have the latest releases as soon as Netflix. On the other hand we don’t spend much time in front of the TV.

Netflix raising prices as much as 60% - LA Times

Video subscription service will no longer offer a $9.99 plan that lets users watch an unlimited number of movies online and rent one DVD at a time. Instead, those who want that combination will have to pay $15.98 a month.

The changes take effect immediately for new customers and in September for existing ones. Tony Wible, an analyst with Janney Capital Markets, estimated that 80% of Netflix’s 22.8 million U.S. subscribers currently use a DVD/streaming combination plan and will be affected by the price hike. The company launched a $7.99 streaming-only plan late last year.

Reactions to Netflix’s biggest-ever price increase were swift and overwhelmingly negative. More than 10,000 people had responded to the news on Netflix’s Facebook page by late Tuesday, nearly all of them critical.

“A 60% hike with no added value is outrageous,” said Courtney Penly, a 28-year-old limousine company dispatcher from North Hollywood. “Unless Netflix is going to offer its entire library via streaming, then I am canceling.”

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 06:14:05

going to cancel my DVD subscription. may keep the streaming though or i may not.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 06:22:06

Here’s an example of a company that just cannot stand prosperity.

They have a good thing going for itself but that’s not good enough so they end up making decisions that will screw everything up.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 06:38:52

Yesterday we had a discussion concerning the bean-counting mentality of American corporations. Well, here is an example of this mentality.

Netflix is putting at great risk their customer base, something that should be lookd at as something precious and something to be protected, not exploited. Piss off the customers and the door opens wide to the competition.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 07:09:05

Ah, yes, you’re talking about John Donaho’s Ebay model. Punish your customers. Squeeze their nutz until they howl, bend ‘em over and make ‘em take it.

To some degree he gets away with it, because Ebay still has buyers for many items that can’t be sold elsewhere on line.

But it is going down, slowly but surely. It will take a while, but it’s over. It used to be fun, now it’s a miserable place to do business.

Sure was a good ride while it lasted, though.

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Comment by michael
2011-07-13 07:17:54

i am sure netflix did their homework:

what is the average number of DVDs a customer watches per month?

6 or more - customer wolfgirl - it’s still a bargain and cheaper than on demand…no biggie i will keep it.

3 - customer me - eff them…it’s not worth it.

the increased revenue on the 6 or more DVDers outways the decrease in revenue from losing the 3 or less DVDers.

for me…getting rid of the DVDs is an economic decision. if i get rid of the streaming…it would be for spite.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 08:09:08

$15.98 a month.

Well, $hasta…the additional $5.99 is for Hwy’s $it-U-Ation a “kid premium” adder:

When Mr. Cole finds something he likes, he watches it many times (no late charges) he’s limited to the “receive-watch-return-receive” time cycle (quasi-delayed gratification) and he has to make self-critical decision choices (what to view)

The adult kicker is he watches the reruns on his set, leaving Hwy to the streaming of Dads “boring” choices. ;-)

(Otherwise, we revert to the $9.99 plan.)

Plus the use RedBox $1.00 per24hr & the Library delivery branches

(When the cable Indu$trial Complex Inc. finally wake$ up & let’s individual American folks choo$e (alacarte) their own 10 - 100 channels, I might revisit their cost offering$ but Hwy most likely will be terminal at that point-in-time.)

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:45:52

Blockbuster’s demise has removed much of the competition.

 
Comment by Montana
2011-07-13 14:22:42

Glad I watched my fill of DVDs and streaming..it’s really kind of a chore now. I’d rather be out side, or reading, or practicing my music.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 15:09:40

I’d rather be out side, or reading, or practicing my music.

I’m with you on two of the three. But not on the music. That talent has just-plumb eluded me.

What instrument do you play?

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-13 10:04:18

It seems to be the life cycle of a business model.

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Comment by AV0CAD0
2011-07-13 16:05:32

I too will cancel DVD’s, keep streaming and use RedBox.

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Comment by frankie
2011-07-13 10:44:20

I’m sure this is due to corporate greed, but it might not only be Netflix that are getting greedy

http://townhall.com/news/sci-tech/2011/06/22/sony_movies_still_off_netflix_in_starz_dispute

But Netflix, which has grown faster than partners expected in the last 18 months triggered a deal clause last quarter when it announced that it now has more than 22.8 million subscribers in the U.S. of which nearly two-thirds were streaming videos, according to one source familiar the situation.

The source said under terms of the original contract the trigger allows Sony to ask Starz for better financial terms.

Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 11:25:15

On her day off, my daugher may watch as many as 3 movies on Netflex. And she also watches tv shows there. For her it’s a huge bargin. She doesn’t bother much with dvds. If she wants a movie, she buys it and watches it many times.

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Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 07:00:55

It’s still a bargin if you watch many movies

Comment by michael
2011-07-13 07:12:11

i do not watch many movies but i do stream a good bit (documentaries and old cheesy horror and sci fi flicks mostly)so i may keep that.

for the amount of new release DVDs i watch the new price increase is making on demand more competitive.

plus i have been eyeing the red box which is a few blocks down the street for a few months now. this just pushed my decision over the edge.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 10:52:34

You can borrow DVDs from your public library. Which is paid for by our tax dollars. IMHO, it’s a very worthy expenditure.

Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 11:27:47

Our library doesn’t have a wide selection of the movies we like, especially science ficiton, horror , and a lot of stuff from the 30;s and 40’s. Sadly the book selection isn’t much better.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 11:39:48

Try inter library loan

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:08:24

Classic.

Hook ‘em. Reel ‘em in.

People is be smart!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:44:18

Mortgage Applications Drop for 4th Week
- CNBC 13 Jul 2011

Applications for U.S. home mortgages fell last week for the fourth week in a row, hurt by a drop in refinance demand even as interest rates tumbled, an industry group said on Wednesday.

The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted index of mortgage application activity, which includes both refinancing and home purchase demand, fell 5.1 percent in the week ended July 8.

The MBA’s seasonally adjusted index of refinancing applications lost 6.2, while the gauge of loan requests for home purchases dipped 2.6 percent.

The refinance share of mortgage activity decreased to 65.6 percent of total applications from 66.4 percent the week before.

Fixed 30-year mortgage rates averaged 4.55 percent, down from 4.69 percent.

Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-13 06:05:50

Push on that string.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 06:13:10

It’s what they do best, the string is turning into a wet noddle.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 07:51:00

Cheers!, ooo’s & xxx’s:

Give me an “M”…for Motivation!
Give me a “Q”…for Qualification!
Give me an “E”…for Employmentization!

Sis-Boom-Rah!

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-13 05:44:36

U.S. Tackles Housing Slump .

By NICK TIMIRAOS
JULY 12, 2011.

Housing “hasn’t bottomed out as quickly as we expected,” President Barack Obama said at a White House town hall last week. Mr. Obama said housing remained the “most stubborn” problem facing the country and conceded that a raft of federal mortgage-aid programs were “not enough, and so we’re going back to the drawing board.”

Policy ideas include having taxpayer-owned mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac relax their rules for loans to investors, allowing those buyers to vacuum up excess housing inventory. In certain markets, Fannie and Freddie could hold some foreclosed homes off the market and rent them out to ease the property glut.

Officials also could sweeten incentives for banks to reduce loan balances for borrowers who are underwater, or owe more than their homes are worth.

Discussions are in early stages, and there isn’t consensus around particular ideas. A spokeswoman said the president and his advisers “are always looking at new ways” to strengthen the housing market but wouldn’t disclose details. “While we continue to consider the options available to us, it would be inaccurate to say we are proposing any of these particular ideas at this time,” White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage said.

“As conditions change, some options that were below the line the way the market was 18 months ago might be above the line today,” said Peter P. Swire, who teaches law at Ohio State University and until last year was a top housing adviser to the White House.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584404576440033488980192.html - 192k -

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 06:05:53

POB Jethro you’re a day late and dollar short. I posted it yesterday.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-13 06:37:28

“POB Jethro you’re a day late and dollar short. I posted it yesterday.”

Sorry RAL.

I will now drop and do twenty push-ups. Then I gotta go to work or I will be a dollar short. But looking at the bright side it`s not a short sale where I am Two-Hundred-thousand Dollars short. And I was only a day late not 1095 days late as some are with their mortgage payments.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 07:09:20

Sensitive this morning are we?

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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 05:50:27

JPMorgan, Citigroup May Struggle to Boost Revenue - Bloomberg

JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Citigroup Inc. which report earnings this week, are under pressure to show that banks can increase revenue as the U.S. economic recovery sputters.

JPMorgan, which kicks off earnings season tomorrow, may say second-quarter revenue declined 0.8 percent to $24.9 billion, according to the average estimates of analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Revenue at Citigroup, which reports results a day later, may fall 10 percent to $19.9 billion, with more than half of the decline tied to assets the company has tagged for sale.

“The street is going to be looking at revenue growth” that will be difficult for banks to produce in the current economic environment, Paul Miller, an analyst with FBR Capital Markets, said in a phone interview. “You need the economy to work, you need rates to go higher and you need to see continued improvement in credit.”

Boosting profit won’t be enough to impress investors, according to analysts including Miller, a former examiner at the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia. They already know that fewer borrowers are defaulting, allowing banks to bolster profit with funds that had been set aside for future loan losses.

JPMorgan, led by CEO Jamie Dimon, 55, may say second- quarter profit climbed 6.2 percent from a year earlier to $5.09 billion according to the average estimate of analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Citigroup may say profit rose 14 percent from the same period last year to $3.07 billion.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-13 06:35:06

Cry me a river.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-13 07:04:57

“The street is going to be looking at revenue growth” that will be difficult for banks to produce…

Grow or die! I hope they choke on it.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 07:41:44

JPMorgan Cha$e & Co. and Citigroup$ Inc

MoveYerMonie$! Boycott ‘em!…MoveYerMonie$! Boycott ‘em!…MoveYerMonie$! Boycott ‘em!…

It’s the bee $warm…vs….the bra$$ balled Bull$ ;-)

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 06:21:38

Italy’s money problems make Greece’s look like chump change.

ITEM: UniCredit, one of the largest banks in Europe, is collapsing; trading in its shares halted, all of Europe is in a state of shock.

Italy, the third largest economy in the euro zone, is in a death spiral — the same pattern that drove Greece, Ireland and Portugal over the brink.

From - Martin Weiss

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-13 07:09:41

Ah yes, Berlusconi gets yet another chance to be useful. He’s been most useful to the PTB this past decade, so naturally the kind of scandals that would bring down anyone else hardly graze him.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 08:18:32

It will be interesting to see what efforts are made to prop up Italy and Spain. When those suckers go down it will be the beginning of “interesting times”. Could help the US, which would probably be perceived as a place of safety in the ensuing storm.

Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:52:07

Will definitely help Quadaffi in Libya.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:13:07

Could help the U$, which would probably be perceived as a place of $afety in the ensuing $torm. ;-)

Hwy smiles when folks advocate certain perspectives:

“They can’t see the forest for the trees”

Definition: overly concerned with detail; not understanding the whole $it-U-Ation

Explanation: Used when expressing that a person is focusing too much on specific problems and is missing the point.

 
Comment by Kirisdad
2011-07-13 14:28:59

Wait till the housing bubble pops in China and then Canada, Aussie and NZ follow.

 
 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2011-07-13 06:36:02

Tomorrow is a day-long hearing for Elizabeth Warren and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/

Warren is strongly opposed by the financial sector. There is big money in continuing the current system. So, there are going to be fireworks. The CFPB opens its doors on July 21st.

To get an idea of how the hearing will go, see the note from Mr. Issa (chairing the hearing), to Ms. Warren:

“In light of the inability of all members of the subcommittee to have an opportunity to ask you questions, and your unwillingness to provide direct and responsive answers to a number of important questions, the committee would like to further discuss your plans for the [CFPB], the design and funding of the agency, and the limited checks and balances that apply to it,” Mr. Issa wrote in last week’s letter to Ms. Warren.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/06/06/sparks-may-fly-when-elizabeth-warren-returns-to-hill/

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 06:46:40

Wonder if the D.C. brain trust will come up with an “austerity” plan for us? My guess is… hell no! It will be forced upon us, like it or not.

ITEM: Italy to bolster austerity plan, speed up approval
Italian markets calm following debt jitters as lawmakers accelerate austerity measures

MILAN (AP) — Italy will strengthen its package of austerity measures and get it through parliament by Friday, finance minister Giulio Tremonti pledged Wednesday as he sought to calm market fears that the eurozone’s third-largest economy would be swept into the European debt crisis.

Italian lawmakers were working to bolster the euro48 billion ($67 billion) in austerity measures that begin to take effect this year and aim to balance the budget by 2014. The Senate is set to vote on Thursday before passing off to the lower house.

“The decree to balance the budget will be reinforced for the entire four-year period, and will be approved by Friday,” Tremonti told a banker’s association.

While Tremonti’s remarks were clearly aimed at further reassuring financial markets that Italy was serious about its duty to reduce debt, Tremonti also said market losses in recent days were not a problem “of a single country but of the structure of Europe.”

“At this moment, we have more or less 40 percent of Europe under pressure,” Tremonti said.

Still, concerns about Italy’s high debt, dysfunctional political system and continued stodgy growth have focused attention on the country. Its financial markets have come under intense pressure in recent days, with bond spreads reaching new records daily.

Italy’s acceleration of the austerity measures has provided some relief, although analysts say sentiment remains fragile and volatile.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 07:24:16

I am sure you’re glad to know that Bernanke promised more stimulus (ie. QE3) should the recovery show signs of weakness. That send stocks and PM up sharply.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 08:32:37

Was there ever a question that

Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 09:04:24

Of course not. That’s why I am a bit surprised that the market reacted the way it did.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 08:25:59

Wonder if the D.C. brain trust will come up with an “austerity” plan for us?

What is there to cut back on J6P?

National Health? Nope
Free or low cost higher ed and vocational programs? Nope
Subsidized mass transit? We don’t have mass transit where I live, unless yount a bus that comes by once every 90 minutes as “mass transit.
Mandatory paid time off from work? No such thing.

I guess we could force Joe to pay out of pocket for his kids’ K-12 education.
We could sell the interstate highway system to private investors like the Koch Bros and let it become a toll based system.
We could take away his Social Security.
We could eliminate foodstamps and school lunches.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 08:46:25

So J6P did himself no harm huh?

He didn’t mortgage his house 3-4 times, he didn’t buy things he could not afford with money he did not have. He didn’t build up mountains of unplayable debt, he didn’t borrow from the future? J6P has inflicted his own wounds in many ways, by not living within his means, period. He followed the lead of government, spend like there is no tomorrow and you never have to pay it back.

All debt is paid, one way or the other, you can think that all of our economic problems were brought on by evil rich folks, but old J6P was complicit, it takes two to tango.

It gets beyond foolish to say that it was all one groups fault. The cutting back will continue, no matter how many wonderful caring “free” programs our benevolent government comes up with.

Of course it’s not fair.
More than once when I was in trouble growing up I was told, you brought it on yourself, and 9 times out of 10 I had.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 09:59:06

Just sayin’ that we don’t get as much free cheese as the Euros to begin with. Our status quo == their austerity.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:30:16

More than once when I was in trouble growing up I was told, you brought it on yourself, and 9 times out of 10 I had.

I’m sure that all those billions of people around the world who were born into poverty brought it upon themselves.

I know we Americans have been brainwashed into believeing that if we study and work hard all will be OK.

Meanwhile the banksters continue to rape us with serial QE’s and the offshoring juggernaut continues to flatten the country.

And while they screw us they tell us that it’s our fault.

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Comment by drumminj
2011-07-13 12:50:26

I’m sure that all those billions of people around the world who were born into poverty brought it upon themselves.

Pick a context, Colorado. A minute ago you were talking about J6P in the USA. Now we’re talking about everyone in the world??

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 13:38:49

You were the one who said that we “bring it upon ourselves”.

But in the context of the USA: J6P, whether he is a factory worker, tradesmen, or white collar professional is powerless against the forces of the Bankers and Big Biz, who have collectively decided to sell him down the river.

Maybe when you were knee high to a grasshopper things were different. I recently said that once upon a time if you were willing to work you could attain at least a lower middle class standard of living, regardless of education. We had neighbors in Orange County who worked as grocery store clerks, and the wife was able to stay home.I even mentioned that when I was a kid that ride operators at Disneyland could afford their own modest homes in SoCal (today they are paid poverty wages). So back then if you failed it was because you were a bum (or were racially discriminated).

Today I meet people with advanced degrees who can’t find work, or when they do it pays a fraction of what it used to and they are hired as temps. I know software testers right where I work who have JDs and MSEEs.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-13 07:02:02

Prison doctor gets paid for doing little or nothing

By Jack Dolan, Los Angeles Times
July 13, 2011

Reporting from Sacramento — The highest-paid state employee in California last year, a prison surgeon who took home $777,423, has a history of mental illness, was fired once for alleged incompetence and has not been allowed to treat an inmate for six years because medical supervisors don’t trust his clinical skills.

Since July 2005, Dr. Jeffrey Rohlfing has mostly been locked out of his job — on paid leave or fired or fighting his termination — at High Desert State Prison in Susanville, state records show. When he has been allowed inside the facility, he has been relegated to reviewing paper medical histories, what prison doctors call “mailroom” duty.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prison-doctor-20110713,0,5931598.story - -

Comment by 2banana
2011-07-13 07:34:22

Public servants - they deserve every penny they make.

Now back to work slaves and pay your taxes.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 08:30:44

From the article.

“Rohlfing’s $235,740 base pay, typical in California’s corrections system, accounted for about a third of his income last year. The rest of the money was back pay for more than two years when he did no work for the state while appealing his termination. A supervisor had determined that Rohlfing provided substandard care for two patients, according to state Personnel Board records.”

200K is in line with what surgeons get paid in the private sector. Whether or or not he deserved the back pay is another matter, as well as if a prison should even have resident surgeon.

Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:54:58

Healthcare in Californis’ prisons is getting expensive as those 3-strikes guy get up there in age.

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Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 09:09:02

How about outsourcing prisons? China or Mexico come to mind. They can run the entire facility on $200K or less.
Sarcasm or not, it might come to that one day.

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Comment by yensoy
2011-07-13 09:42:24

Cuba’s been doing it for years - outsourcing “prisons” to the US. And they don’t pay America a dime. They put their career criminals on a rickety boat and push them towards Miami. That way they can keep their prison staff focussed on the more dangerous kind - political dissidents.

 
Comment by Robin
2011-07-13 23:56:35

What about prison trains from AZ or NV sent south of the border to clean up garbage, or sewage spills, or drug war carnage??

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:14:32

Exactly, Colorado.

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Comment by yensoy
2011-07-13 07:39:00

I’m sure the good Dr. will be ROFLing.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 11:29:25

Prison doctor gets paid for doing little or nothing

“First do no harm….”

Sounds like he takes his Hippocratic Oath very seriously. :)

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-07-13 07:15:54

Will Hope and Change support this. Nah - didn’t think so…

Balanced budget amendment headed to House floor next week Yahoo | 7/12/11

A balanced budget amendment will be considered on the House floor next Wednesday, The Daily Caller has learned from a senior GOP source on Capitol Hill.

House leadership gave the amendment its stamp of approval, when House Speaker John Boehner laid out three conditions for any deal on the debt limit to reporters Tuesday. Republican freshmen have been pushing the balanced budget issue for weeks. (Dems: We couldn’t attack Republicans if we agree to Medicare cuts)

“The spending cuts have to be larger than the increase in the debt ceiling,” Boehner said. “Secondly there are no tax increases on the table. And thirdly, we have to have real controls in place to make sure this never happens again. Real controls like a balanced budget amendment.”

The more conservative wing of the Republican caucus latched onto the balanced budget amendment early in the debt limit debate, arguing that it needed to be tied to any debt reduction deal. Supporters argue the amendment would lock in spending cuts for future Congresses.

Comment by CharlieTango
2011-07-13 08:35:01

QE3

i don’t see how the budget even matters, if the govt acts responsibly the fed makes up for it.

keep on stealing our remaining wealth BB you jerk

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-13 08:56:52

A balanced budget amendment woulD take how many years to ratify?

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-13 23:18:29

What a great talking point for their political campaigns. They can run for years on supporting a balanced budget amendment while waiting for the states to ratify it (2/3, I think). In the meantime, they can continue to bring home the bacon. It’s a win-win.

 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-13 08:42:01

It’s just a matter of when, not if.

Bernanke: Fed May Launch New Round of Stimulus

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bernanke-Fed-May-Launch-New-cnbc-1033349863.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 09:17:04

US Default Inevitable: Fund Manager
Wednesday, 13 Jul 2011 | CNBC.com

A U.S. default isn’t a matter of “if” but “when,” David Murrin, chief investment officer at Emergent Asset Management, told CNBC.

“It’s inevitable that the U.S. will default—it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline—and that its financial system will go with it,” he said.

The question is: Does the U.S. default when it is forced to by the outside world, probably the Chinese, or does it take the option to default on its own terms in such a way that it may have a strategic advantage, Murrin said.

Republicans and Democrats are currently locked in a debate on how to cut the U.S. budget deficit, and on whether the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling should be raised. Both parties need to come to a consensus by Aug. 2, otherwise the country will be in a state of technical default.

In his book “Breaking the Code of History,” Murrin argues that the balance of power has shifted away from the West, with America as the superpower, towards the East, led by China.

He believes the U.S. cannot afford to compete with the rise of Eastern powers.

“It’s very simple, its (America’s) empire system, its financial system is in decline, we’ve seen very little growth for over a decade apart from financial engineering and leveraging, which ultimately caused the debt crisis of 2008,” Murrin said.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:03:22

“It’s inevitable that the U.S. will default—it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline—and that its financial system will go with it,” he said.

Kind of hard to argue with that, when it’s self evident. That a trillion plus annual deficit doesn’t give the world’s markets the conniptions is kind of amazing in and of itself.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 11:46:45

That a trillion plus annual deficit doesn’t give the world’s markets the conniptions is kind of amazing in and of itself.

slavery The US dollar reserve currency system is like holding a wolf by the ears: you didn’t like it, but you didn’t dare let it go.

(my apologies to Thomas Jefferson)

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 09:20:12

When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:16:06

Yep. But it would at least help if they held it the right way. :lol:

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 11:39:54

Bernanke: Fed May Launch New Round of Stimulus

Seems like only a month ago gold was $1520 or something.

It’s like $1580 today. I’ve mentioned that $2,200 is the number that gold’s technical patterns point to.

And technical patterns are always correctly predictive. (until they’re not of course)

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 15:09:35

After QE3 is announced we’ll see gas prices skyrocket again, as well as groceries, etc.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-13 17:57:37

Not unless that $300 Billion is for paying down everyone’s credit card by $2-3000…..then the people get to spend it not the speculators.

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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 08:49:38

As anticipated, Dr. Bernanke is hinting that he’s going to uncork “Quantatative Easing #3.” I don’t know anyone who is really surprised. If #3 doesn’t prompt the economic stimulus there will be a QE#4 and more as long as the printing presses at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing still function.

What do we common folk do? Depends on whether or not you cherish solvency. Stay liquid, avoid debt, make do with what you have. Some stores will close, certain banks will go under, economists will complain about “consumer slowdown.” But the deadwood must be cleared out of the economy before the rebuilding can take place on a solid base.

It’s a little like the Diet and Exercise mantra. Everyone knows it means we ought to eat less and exercise more. But it’s a hard sell. So is avoiding debt and living within one’s means.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:05:27

What do we common folk do? ;-)

Same as yesterday:

“have a drink, go fer a swim…”

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-13 09:18:21

“What do we common folk do? Depends on whether or not you cherish solvency. Stay liquid, avoid debt, make do with what you have.”

Isn’t QE2, 3, and 4 simply laying the groundwork for inflation? If so, I’m assuming your “staying liquid” includes equity securities, and not just cash…yes or no?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:23:31

“But the deadwood must be cleared out of the economy before the rebuilding can take place on a solid base.”

Pray tell how do we rebuild the economy when we worship at the altar of free trade and buy everything from China Inc. and its Asian subsidiaries?

What I envision happening is that we will debase our currency (via endless QE’s) until we our incomes (and standard of living) reach a third word level. At that point the free fall will end, but that will become the new normal. The best we can hope for is how Rio describes Brazil: A 1st world and and 3rd world country living side by side. And since half the workforce already earns less than $500 a week we are well on our way there.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:31:58

The trick for survival is to provide a service that’s indispensible to the First World-ers.

At least Brazil has a National Health Care system. Soon, you’ll be seeing UNICEF setting up tent hospitals in the US.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:18:26

You think you’re joking?

UNICEF aside, have you heard about the traveling charity clinics in rural America?

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 14:00:25

Those traveling clinics are run by Remote Area Medical. A very good outfit.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 08:53:04

“A man may run into debt, but if he gets out he does so at a walk.”

~Wylie Jones, S.C. Banker

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 09:04:02

“A man MegaBanker may run into debt, but if when he gets out he does so at with a Gov’t provided walker.”

clarity wmbz, clarity…

;-)

Comment by Mike in Miami
2011-07-13 09:15:35

…with a Gov’t provided gravy train.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:04:35

He gets to drive away in a brand new Mercedes.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 09:11:06

400-500 layoff notices to go out

Hartford, Conn. (WTNH) - The Malloy adminstration says between four and five hundred layoff notices will be out by the end of the day tomorrow, with an official count by agency to be released by Thursday.

No numbers yet on cutbacks in the State Police, but the amount of money the Governor wants cut from the public safety department translates into over 300 jobs.

The head of the state police union says that the state is already under the statute mandated 1,248 troopers.

Malloy said, “I made it clear that there were no exceptions, the layoffs had to be delivered in such a way that they were broad based, and they are.”

The heads of the correction officers union locals are blowing the whistle and saying that Malloy is closing too many facilities and sending pink slips to too many prison guards.

Luke Leone, of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (A.F.S.C.M.E.), said, “We think it’s a recipe for disaster, they’re closing these prisons, they’re shipping the inmates to already overcrowded prisons…all four county jails; we have inmates sleeping on the floor now.”

Malloy says there’s plenty of room because the total prison population is way down.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-13 09:19:14

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/futures/

Commodities soaring on margin buying as Zimbabwe Ben’s debasement of the currency and war on the middle class shows no signs of abating. Prepare for a fresh wave of food riots and instability as US inflation is exported overseas. Russia’s Vladimir Putin, for one, has already lashed out at Bernanke, calling him a “hooligan” for his uncontrolled money printing. How much longer can the US currency remain the world’s reserve currency with the Fed’s Weimar Republic-style money-printing creating a Tsunami of hot money for the speculators?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 10:38:18

Commodities soaring on margin buying

$torage! $torage! $torage!

 
Comment by drumminj
2011-07-13 12:48:14

How much longer can the US currency remain the world’s reserve currency with the Fed’s Weimar Republic-style money-printing creating a Tsunami of hot money for the speculators?

That’s just it. These folks need to call our bluff and simply refuse to buy US debt and find another suitable currency for international transactions. At the moment they’re complicit in the Fed’s actions by not putting their money where their mouth is.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:21:35

The rest of the world is scrambling as fast as it can to do just this.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 09:19:58

TEA to lay off 178 workers
Thousands more pink slips to come for state workers.
Latest local news »

The Texas Education Agency said Tuesday that it is laying off 178 employees this week. Those are among the first of thousands of state government layoffs expected in the coming weeks.

The TEA decision has been months in the making, as the agency seeks to reduce its staff by 32 percent to cope with budget cuts ordered by the Texas Legislature, an agency spokeswoman said.

This week’s layoffs come on the heels of 91 layoffs by the agency in February, with another 74 people retiring, quitting or transferring this year.

At the start of the legislative session in January, lawmakers proposed a 2012-13 budget that a Legislative Budget Board analysis said would cut 9,600 positions statewide in an attempt to balance a budget that spends 8 percent less than the current one. By the time the Legislature passed a budget in late May, the board estimated that 5,700 state government jobs would be lost, a 2.4 percent reduction from 2011 to 2013.

The cuts were made to deal with reduced state tax revenue caused by the national economic downturn. The Legislature decided to cut spending by $15.2 billion rather than increase taxes or spend all of the $9.7 billion rainy day fund.

The budget board calculates jobs using full-time equivalents, or the number of positions equal to a full-time job, whether it is filled or not. The TEA layoff numbers are people actually losing a job, not full-time equivalents.

The TEA, which oversees pre-kindergarten to 12th-grade education and allocates billions of dollars to school districts, is bearing a large share of expected layoffs statewide.

It is reducing its operating budget by $48 million, or 36 percent, agency spokeswoman Debbie Ratcliffe said. The layoffs will account for the majority of the savings, she said.

“We’re like a school district in that the majority of our costs are tied up in payroll and benefits,” Ratcliffe said.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:17:03

Funny how even with its oil based economy and its “right to work” workforce the Texas economy is sucking as back as the rest of them.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:42:25

No. Not the rest of them. It’s in the same class as CA with its budget.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 15:14:16

Good point. The situation in Colorado is much better.

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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 09:22:50

Fenton glass company to close production

The Fenton Art Glass Company has announced it will be shutting down production of hand-blown glass products within the next few months.

Fenton Glass, which is located in Williamsburg, W.Va., has been experiencing financial woes since 2007 when they first considered shutting down.

Now, four years later, the company has made the decision to cease production of glass at their 106-year-old factory.

“The market for our pressed and blown glassware has diminished. We cannot sustain the overhead costs,” said Fenton Glass President George Fenton.

Since Fenton Glass has been such a crucial part of Williamsburg, local citizens have expressed confusion and are upset by its imminent closing.

It is expected that most of Fenton Glass Company’s employees will lose their jobs when the main furnace of the factory closes in the coming months.

“Our employees have worked hard and efficiently, so this is a very sad day for us,” Fenton said.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:10:45

You have to wonder how firms that survived the Great Depression didn’t survive this time. Did they get their keisters into debt whith unrealistic expansion plans? Or is the great recession worse than the Great Depression?

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:43:55

It IS worse, but MSM will NEVER be allowed to say so.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 12:26:11

Our employees have worked hard and efficiently,

Not good enough nowadays. :(

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:30:22

Hasn’t been for 30 years.

For some reason, business USA (and not just large corporations, but local shops to the big guys) seem to think that employees will work harder and more conscientiously on less pay and job security.

Go figure.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 09:27:57

World’s No. 2 Retailer’s Earnings to Fall 23%
13 Jul 2011 | By: Reuters

Carrefour, the world’s No.2 retailer, flagged a 23 percent drop in first-half earnings and said it was broadening an action plan, initially focused on France, with the aim of meeting its goal to grow profits this year.

The French group, hit overnight by the collapse of a merger plan in Brazil, said on Wednesday it made a first-half operating profit of around 760 million euros ($1 billion) as lagging performance in France and weak western European markets outweighed strong sales in Asia and Latin America.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 09:44:59

The French group, hit overnight by the collapse of a merger plan in Brazil, said on Wednesday it made a first-half operating profit of around 760 million euros ($1 billion) as lagging performance in France and weak western European markets outweighed strong sales in Asia and Latin America.

Looks like the world is all shopped out.

Comment by yensoy
2011-07-13 10:01:45

Carrefour is the supermarket of China. There are a lot of Chinese clones, and some other foreign companies like Walmart, Metro etc, but Carrefour is the top dog.

Shops are filthy as hell and awfully crowded, but their selection and prices can’t be matched.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:14:36

But what is their profit?

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 10:13:02

They shopped til they dropped!

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:45:59

“…and said it was broadening an action plan,”

Translation: we’re going to put ridiculous pressure on the sales staff to meet unrealistic goals and fire them when they don’t so we can blame them.

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-13 09:42:27

Some day, maybe soon, you’ll be face to face with a realtor. And he/she will make a statement and you will reflexively think………… “realtors are liars.”

And you should.

Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 11:49:18

We have a very nice realtor hwo owns a house up the street from us. Considering that this is not exactly a high priced neighborhood, I don’t know if she makes a lot of money. OTOH, she may be one of the few who understands what’s going on.

 
Comment by cactus
2011-07-13 12:23:58

and you will reflexively think………… “realtors are liars.”

Like used car salesmen

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-13 09:50:57

http://blogs.forbes.com/halahtouryalai/2011/07/12/state-ags-never-had-a-chance-against-big-banks/

Forbes: State AGs never had a chance against the big banks (as if Republicrat AGs were ever really serious about pursuing mortgage and foreclosure fraud or upholding the law).

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-13 10:19:45

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/metals-copper-theft-idUSN1E76C0ET20110713

Secure your air conditioners. Soaring price of copper plus lousy economy means copper theft is becoming rampant.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 10:45:27

‘Gutter Grabbers’ Target Main Line Homes For Copper

PENN VALLEY, Pa. (CBS) – A rash of copper thefts in Montgomery county has residents on alert.

They may not seem like your typical targets, but thieves in Montgomery County are looking for copper. Gutters and downspouts made of the precious metal are being stolen from people’s homes along the Main Line.

Lower Merion Township Police have reported a significant increase in the thefts of copper downspouts and gutters being taken from homes throughout the area.

“I thought, ‘I’m so far from the road nobody’s going to come in here’,” said Virginia Dean of Penn Valley who recently fell victim to the rash of crimes. “I came out to cut the lawn and suddenly realized that I was missing downspouts. It’s upsetting to think someone would just come here and do that.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:48:37

I once lived in a neighborhood where we had burglar bars AROUND the window units.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 10:39:46

Our bus system here in central S.C.is in the red year after year, stays in the red. The solution is always the same, raise taxes, never once do you hear them say, well lets the raise fares to what it takes to cover just the basic operating costs.

- Pierce Transit cutting nearly 190 positions amid budget shortfall
Tacoma, WA.

Pierce Transit began issuing layoff notices to 150 employees Tuesday as the agency continues to struggle with a $51 million budget shortfall.

“This is our third round of layoffs” in three years, CEO Lynne Griffith said. “This is the largest. I think it’s the largest in the history of Pierce Transit.”

The Board of Commissioners approved the staff reduction at its meeting Monday night, eliminating 188 positions. About 40 of those are currently unfilled, Griffith said.

The number of affected employees could shift this week because the transportation agency is asking for employees who want to voluntarily leave; it’s not offering buyouts. Twelve have stepped forward.

Also, because of the union’s seniority system, some people in jobs targeted for layoffs could end up filling other roles, Griffith said.

Employees being laid off will work their last day Oct. 1, weeks after Pierce Transit implements a 15 percent reduction in service.

There has been a 19 percent reduction in staff over the past three years, according to the agency. It has 995 employees, short of the 1,054 positions it’s budgeted for because of a hiring freeze.

Griffith said 31 percent of the layoffs have been at the management level and 27 percent at the administration level. Eighteen percent involved front-line jobs such as drivers, supervisors and mechanics.

Transit officials have reduced service by 35 percent in three years. The first round of cuts went into effect in mid-June; the next round will come Oct. 2.

Many of the lost routes went to East Pierce County, including Bonney Lake, Sumner, Buckley and Orting. Service also was reduced in Tacoma, Puyallup, Gig Harbor and the Parkland/Spanaway area.

The transit agency has said its budget woes were brought about by the ailing economy and the February failure of Proposition 1, which would have raised Pierce Transit’s share of the county sales tax by 50 percent.

Seventy percent of Pierce Transit’s revenue comes from sales tax.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 11:24:17

$ub$idize Airport$ for private-jet traveler$ = no problem

$ub$idize peon-worker Linda the Lunch Lady Lavi$h bus system = evil

Also, because of the union’s seniority system, some people in jobs targeted for layoffs could end up filling other roles

So, showing up to work for 30 years should keep one on “equal-status” with the fella that was hired last week, right?

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 11:37:26

“So, showing up to work for 30 years should keep one on “equal-status” with the fella that was hired last week, right?”

Not in Corporate America. They throw the 30 year veteran under the bus.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 11:46:26

Not in Corporate America. They throw the 30 year veteran under the bus. ;-)

ziiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggggggggggggg….. (exeter™)

Not in Corporate America. They throw the 30 year veteran pert near everyone (xceptin’ the CEO & BOD “friends”) under the bu$

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 11:35:57

How much is the bus fare?

The subway in Mexico City (El Metro) charged 1 peso when it opened in 1969 (about 8 US cents). Today it costs 3 pesos (about 22 cents at today’s exchange rates).

When I lived in Mexico City there were just 3 routes (or lineas as they call them). Today the 12th line is under construction. Sometimes the Metro could get very crowded, but at rush hour it was the way to get around quickly and the price couldn’t be beat.

The trains are similar to the ones used in Paris and run on tires (322 trains). They are built in Mexico of mostly Mexican content.
The construction of the tunnels proved challenging in many parts of Mexico City which was built on the site of the former Lake Texcoco. The technique used was to dig trenches, drop the tunnel sections into them and then rebury them. In the more suburban parts of the city the metro runs above ground.

In 2010 the Metro carried 1.4 billion passengers, or almost 4 million every day.

Anyway, there is your useless trivia for the day.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 11:44:56

There are several fare options available for CMRTA fixed route bus service:

Standard One-Way Fare: $1.50 (Only available on the bus)
Special Needs Fare: $0.75 (Must show a valid photo ID with Special Needs Card)
Senior Citizens Fare: $0.75 (Must show a valid photo ID with data of birth age 65 and over)
Agency Discount Ticket: $1.25 (Must call 255-7133 for details)
10 Ride Pass: $12.00
31 Day Pass: $40.00
Transfer: $0.25
Zone Pass: $0.25
Children 5 and under: FREE when accompanied by a paying adult

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-07-13 12:25:04

I am also thinking that the average bear Mexico City rail/bus/transit worker

Do not get paid multiplies more than his private sector counter part
Does not have Cadillac benefits that he/she pays little for
Does have gold plated pensions that he/she pays little for
Can be fired for variety of reasons that anyone in the private sector can be fired for
Will not go on strike at the drop of a hat and sabotage his/her city’s own transit equipment (to teach the city a lesson)

It is AMAZING the things a city can do under those circumstances…jsut look at any America city pre-1965

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:52:22

You are NOT seriously using Mexico as an example of a good society?

Seriously?

Wow.

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Comment by Montana
2011-07-13 15:07:08

Just a model of good transit, I guess. Ignore everything else.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 16:48:38

:lol: Just about every 1st and 2nd world country has better mass transit than we do.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 14:56:10

Actually in Mexico government employees have their own separate Social Security system (ISSSTE) which is much better than the system for the private sector (IMSS)

In addition to providing pensions, ISSSTE provides
Its own Healthcare system (so does IMSS, but ISSSTE is better)
It’s own subsidized grocery stores.
A housing program

When I lived in Mexico government workers would get 90 days extra pay at year end. I understand that has been trimmed down since then.

I never knew anyone who got fired from a government job in Mexico. Mexican labaor laws are more protective than American laws. If you are fired without cause you are entitled to severance pay. My dad knew a guy who worked for a US multinational in Mexico for 25 years. They didn’t need him anymore but found something for him to do as it would have cost them at the time 2 years pay to fire the guy (he was an engineer).

Also in Mexico, when you go in strike you shut the company and replacements are not allowed, except in special cases like the phone company or … the Metro, which are considered essential services.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 15:00:53

I also took a looksie at how the Metro is financed. The sell 4.2 billion pesos of fares and receive a 6 billion peso subsisty from the Mexico City government. It costs about 800 million USD to run it per year.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 12:36:41

The subway in Mexico City (El Metro) charged 1 peso when it opened in 1969 (about 8 US cents). Today it costs 3 pesos (about 22 cents at today’s exchange rates).

Rio rates: (US$)

Average City Bus: $1.65
Subway: $2.20
Taxi: About 1/3 the cost as in the USA
Donkey cart: Only seen them in the countryside so far

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 12:31:23

“This is our third round of layoffs”

Is it just me or has the pace of layoffs up there accelerated the past month or so?

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:59:17

It’s picked up again everywhere.

18k new jobs in one month just isn’t quite enough, you know? (I’m still trying to figure out where they came up with that 2 million new jobs figure a few months ago. 20k avg per month x 6 doesn’t come anywhere NEAR close to 2 million)

 
 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2011-07-13 10:46:13

From an article on taxes in today’s NYT:

“Only 23 percent of Americans benefit from the mortgage deduction, but 93 percent support it.”

File under - D for Ditech (People are Smart)

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-13 11:29:01

I’m not sure I know how to define “the rich” but it sure seems like the majority of people also support picking up the tax burden slack from them, even though most of that same majority will never participate in “the riches.”

I can’t count the folks I know who are opposed to tax increases (unrenewed tax cut) on even the 1%-ers. They keep hoping some of that “saved money” will find its way to them.

Comment by drumminj
2011-07-13 12:56:04

I can’t count the folks I know who are opposed to tax increases (unrenewed tax cut) on even the 1%-ers. They keep hoping some of that “saved money” will find its way to them.

You’re assuming this is why they’re against it - they feel it will affect them one day.

There are many other reasons to be opposed to a tax increase, regardless of who it targets.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-13 13:29:35

Nope, I understand “the principle” of being against it clearly.

What I find they are ignoring is the opposite principle. One that would suggest that you don’t cut taxes, then go on a spending spree. In that light, it’s not an “increase” at all.

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-13 13:34:21

Oh, and I’m not assuming anything. They all mention the “they’ll be able to create more jobs” nonsense.

Jobs are created when demand requires. Microsoft has $40B sitting in the bank. Should they hire because of that? Not at all. They should hire according to demand.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 14:02:55

They should hire according to demand.

Too bad there isn’t as much demand for what they offer as there once was. (Why upgrade your MS Office when you can get Open Office for free?) Not to mention their recent tendency to lay eggs in the consumer products market. (Remember Zune, anyone? Or how ’bout Windows Mobile? That one’s really taking over the world, isn’t it?)

 
 
 
 
Comment by yensoy
2011-07-13 13:12:29

And 93 percent think they benefit from it when really they don’t.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 10:51:54

Austrian driver’s religious headgear strains credulity
BBC World News

An Austrian atheist has won the right to be shown on his driving-licence photo wearing a pasta strainer as “religious headgear”.

Niko Alm first applied for the licence three years ago after reading that headgear was allowed in official pictures only for confessional reasons.

Mr Alm said the sieve was a requirement of his religion, pastafarianism.

The Austrian authorities required him to obtain a doctor’s certificate that he was “psychologically fit” to drive.

The idea came into Mr Alm’s noodle three years ago as a way of making a serious, if ironic, point.

A self-confessed atheist, Mr Alm says he belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a light-hearted faith whose members call themselves pastafarians.

The group’s website states that “the only dogma allowed in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the rejection of dogma”.

In response to pressure for American schools to teach the Christian theory known as intelligent design, as an alternative to natural selection, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote to the Kansas School Board asking for the pastafarian version of intelligent design to be taught to schoolchildren, as an alternative to the Christian theory.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:13:50

Now that’s awesome. :)

They are right about ‘Intelligent Design”……once you open that can of worms in the Public Schools, you’ve opened that can for everyone……Hindus, Satanists, Pastafarians, and ……Muslims.

Back when I was a kid, the school stuff was taught at school, and the church stuff at church. Worked great for everyone.

Of course, somebody always has to come along and screw up a good thing.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:56:42

There was great skit on SNL many MANY moons ago that was a fake talk show where the guests for the day was “people who screwed it up for everyone else.” :lol:

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-14 00:07:41

Prayer in public schools was common when I was young.

 
 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 12:20:29

rAmen, Brother Alm.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 12:52:17

A self-confessed atheist, Mr Alm says he belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a light-hearted faith whose members call themselves pastafarians. :-)

GIRL: Follow the Gourd! The Holy Gourd of Jerusalem!

FOLLOWER: The Gourd!
HARRY: Hold up the sandal, as He has commanded us!
ARTHUR: It is a shoe! It is a shoe!
HARRY: It’s a sandal!
ARTHUR: No, it isn’t!
GIRL: Cast it away!
ARTHUR: Put it on!
YOUTH: And clear off!
SHOE FOLLOWER: Take the shoes and follow Him!
GIRL: Come,…
FRANK: Yes!
GIRL: …all ye who call yourself Gourdenes!

http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Life_of_Brian/18.htm

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 13:54:58

Oh hell yes!

 
Comment by Muggy
2011-07-13 18:08:18

Believe me, the FSM is funny, but it’s inflammatory and creates more problems than it solves. I’ve met a lot of fierce resistance to science education over the years, and satire/ridicule is a poor educational tool.

These people (ID in public schools crowd) need to learn the difference between science and religion, and FSM makes a mockery of their belief system; it’s o.k. to have a belief system, but it’s also important to have a system of measurement.

Lastly, the real issue (Kansas) was ID in schools. The talking point here is not religion itself, but the promoting religious freedom FOR ALL by not promoting one form of religion as an agent of the state.

Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 21:53:31

Point taken. But sometimes the satire is not directed at the satirized, who have painted themselves into a difficult ideological corner, but toward the apathetic, yet at least somewhat reasonable set. I am thinking of Swift’s Modest Proposal and others. Yes, it angers the satirized, and marginalizes them and martyrs them. But as their absurd gaps in logic are underscored by the satire, they won’t gain traction with the majority. But, yes sometimes it backfires.

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 11:00:50

Awesome! (but stills uses those cheap co$ting ink cartridges, dang.) :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:03:05

3D printers have been around for a few years now, but the cost was prohibitive.

There is a new maker out there that costs less than $1500, fits on you desk and will make things roughly the size of a large coffee mug, bike gear or smart phone.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 11:13:29

(Hwy’s $enses “like-mindedne$$”)

“The assumption is that you cannot find a qualified man or woman to lead the university unless paid twice that of the Chief Justice of the United States. I reject this notion,” Brown said in his letter. “At a time when the state is closing its courts, laying off public school teachers and shutting senior centers, it is not right to be raising the salaries of leaders who – of necessity – must demand sacrifice from everyone else. These are difficult times and difficult choices must be made. I ask that you rethink the criteria for setting administrators’ salaries.”

New San Diego State president’s $400,000 salary draws criticism:
By FERMIN LEAL / THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER

LONG BEACH – California State University trustees on Tuesday approved a significant pay increase for the president of San Diego State University, the same day they voted to raise student tuition by 12 percent.

Hirshman will receive $50,000 annually from the university’s nonprofit fundraising arm. He will live in university housing and receive a $1,000 monthly car allowance

Trustees approved by a 12-3 vote a $400,000 compensation package for Elliot Hirshman, San Diego State’s new president. He will earn about $100,000 more than his predecessor.

CSU Chancellor Charles Reed said pay for university presidents is relatively low especially when compared with heads of other public and private schools. University presidents traditionally are expected to be educators, business executives and fund-raisers for their campuses. Reed also said presidents’ salaries must remain competitive if the system wants to attract top candidates.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:07:24

The thing with University presidents is that you aren’t hiring their labor. You are hiring their Rolodex.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:05:14

You folks don’t EVEN want to know how much university presidents are paid across the country.

It’s obscene.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 15:35:27

$400,000 sounds fair to me, they are doing Gods work in a little different way than Jamie. They are working for the chidrens!

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 11:32:21

Another interesting day of political sniping awaits us as the Debt Ceiling Game plays on. Everybody knows the public debt ceiling will be raised. The sticking point is which of the major political parties will claim a victory for having saved the day and preserved the republic for another few months. This sophisticated technique is called “kicking the can down the road.” The objective is to kick it beyond the first Tuesday in November, 2012.

Economist Gary North is quite right; “The debate over the deficit is a sham. It is political theater. There is no majority in either political party to balance the enormous budget of the U.S. government. To do so would require a drastic shrinking of expenditures.”

North points out the big sinkholes are Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the military, which constitute some 70 percent of the federal budget. The $1.6 trillion deficit constitutes 40 percent of the budget, so if it were eliminated there’s have to be some serious cuts in the big four expenditures. There are not many politicians in Washington willing to seriously consider balancing the budget any time soon. .

Article: Political Baloney

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 11:55:47

Another interesting day of political sniping awaits us as the Debt Ceiling Game plays on.

Same as yesterday:

“cry-pi$$ & moaaaaan”..or…“have a drink, go fer a swim…” ;-)

 
Comment by measton
2011-07-13 14:07:42

It’s worse
My guess is that it is designed so that each side can say I didn’t want to do it but if I didn’t the world would end.

They just borrowed a page from Hank Paulson. Create the crisis then push through cuts and theft in the name of controlling it.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 11:55:21

At least we are still on track…

Budget deficit on track to top $1 trillion
Budget deficit set to top $1 trillion for 3rd straight year, raising pressure for debt deal

WASHINGTON (AP) — The federal budget deficit is on pace to break the $1 trillion mark for the third straight year, ratcheting up the pressure on the White House and Congress to reach a deal to rein in spending.

The deficit totaled $971 billion for the first nine months of the budget year, the Treasury Department said Wednesday. Three years ago, that would have been a record high for the full year.

With three months to go, this year’s deficit will likely top last year’s $1.29 trillion gap, according to an estimate by the Congressional Budget Office. But it is expected to come in below the record $1.41 trillion reached in 2009. The budget year ends Sept. 30.

For June, the deficit was $43 billion, below the $68 billion imbalance recorded in June 2010. Much of that improvement was due to a one-time drop last month in the estimated cost of education loans.

Soaring deficits have held up a vote to raise the nation’s $14.3 trillion borrowing limit. Republicans and President Barack Obama are at odds over a long-term plan to trim federal spending. Republicans have demanded steep spending cuts in return for voting to raise the borrowing limit. Obama and Democrats in Congress want tax increases to be part of the deal, which Republicans have adamantly opposed.

The government reached its borrowing limit in May. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has warned that if the limit is not raised by Aug. 2, the country will default on its debt for the first time ever.

But negotiations between the White House and President Obama are at a standstill as the two sides meet Wednesday for their fourth negotiating session in as many days. Obama has said the daily meetings will continue until a deal is reached.

A two-hour session Tuesday produced no progress. That prompted the top Republican in the Senate to propose giving Obama sweeping new powers to increase the limit to avoid default.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:16:49

It’s not about the debt ceiling. It’s about who wants to take the credit/blame.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 11:57:09

Here’s some good news for all the savvy/investor house snapper uppers…

20% Drop in Housing to Cause Recession in 2012, Says Gary Shilling
By Peter Gorenstein | Daily Ticker –

Stocks rallied Wednesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke suggested the central bank would go ahead with another round of stimulus — aka quantitative easing — if the economy continues to slump. In this scenario, the Federal Reserve would once again purchase assets to keep interest rates low in an attempt to support the economy and prop up asset prices.

So far, the Fed’s actions have done more good for asset prices like stocks (see: S&P 500 chart since 2009) while doing less to help the economy (see: June jobs report). U.S. gross domestic product grew just 1.9% in the first quarter of the year. For 2011 as a whole, the Fed forecasts U.S. GDP growing at 2.7% to 2.9%, which is lower than the plus 3% forecast they made in April.

Today’s guest, Gary Shilling, President of A. Gary Shilling & Co. and author of the Age of Deleveraging says another recession is brewing — no matter what action the Fed takes. “Economic growth here and abroad is slipping, making a 2012 recession a distinct possibility,” he writes in his July newsletter. And, “when you have slow growth it doesn’t take much of a shock to throw you in negative territory.”

Shilling says the shock to trigger the next recess is “another big leg-down in housing.” (An asset class the Fed has not been able to reflate.) As those familiar with Shilling know, his forecasts are generally bearish. However, in his defense, Shilling was one of the few economists who correctly predicted the dangers of the subprime mortgage market and its impact on the broader economy.

The problem with the real estate market remains excess inventory. Based on Shilling’s research, there are 2 million to 2.5 million excess homes in the country — a supply that will take 4-5 years to work-off. The result: Housing prices will fall another 20% and underwater mortgages will balloon from 23% to 40%, he says.

With housing slumping again, Shilling says recession is coming to a town near you in 2012.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:08:54

U.S. Budget Gap Narrowed in June (Bloomberg)

The U.S. posted a monthly budget deficit of $43.1 billion in June, smaller than a year earlier and reflecting a decline in spending.

In June 2010, the shortfall was $68.4 billion, according to the Treasury Department’s monthly budget statement, released today in Washington.

A slowing economy and restrained job growth may limit tax receipts for the government, raising the risk that the budget deficit will reach a record this fiscal year. The shortfall underscores the urgency surrounding budget negotiations between President Barack Obama and Congress as the U.S. approaches a $14.3 trillion statutory debt limit.

“We need stronger economic growth to bring the deficit down or some restraint on spending,” said Gary Thayer, chief macro strategist at Wells Fargo Advisors LLC in St. Louis. “Unfortunately, we’re in a soft spot on the economy. We really don’t have a robust recovery.”

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:15:30

Good grief what a bunch of candy asses…

Shout of bounds?
No yelling at Obama today
By GLENN THRUSH & MATT NEGRIN | 07/13/11- Politico

A long-running tiff between the White House press corps and the West Wing over presidential access flared anew today when press secretary Jay Carney faced off with reporters over the right to shout questions at the president during debt talks.

Obama chafes at the time-honored practice of answering questions shouted at him during pooled, non-press conference events — and his staff has often opted for “stills sprays,” excluding print reporters or TV cameras who might capture Obama in the less than flattering non-act of snubbing a query.

When asked today why TV crews and print reporters were barred from the pool covering the White House meeting with congressional leaders on the deficit, Carney responded by pointing out that the administration has held two press conferences in the past two weeks and allowed TV cameras into the spray earlier this week.

“People shouted questions at him,” Carney added.

The White House Correspondents’ Association has protested exclusion of print and TV from pools — and several reporters in the briefing room took Carney’s comment as an annoyed expression of presidential displeasure with shouted questions.

“It’s an absurd reason to say that because we asked questions you’re not going to allow cameras in there. He’s capable of ignoring our questions. He does it all the time,” said Chip Reid of CBS.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 12:22:53

Obama chafes at the time-honored practice of answering questions shouted at him during pooled, non-press conference events — and his staff has often opted for “stills sprays,” excluding print reporters or TV cameras who might capture Obama in the less than flattering non-act of snubbing a query.

Ronald Reagan would go into hard-of-hearing mode at such moments.

Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:38:07

“Ronald Reagan would go into hard-of-hearing mode at such moments”.

Sounds like a good way to handle situations like that.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:07:50

Candy asses? So being civil is now equated with being weak?

Yep, were doomed. And we’ll NEVER understand why.

IT’S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:19:53

Hey, I know lets pack up and get the hell out of there! What happened to that plan?

Obama, US viewed less favorably in Arab world, poll shows
- The Boston Globe

The United States is viewed less favorably in much of the Arab world today than it was during the final year of the Bush administration, and President Obama is less popular in the region that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, according to a poll released today (WED) by the Arab American Institute, a nonpartisan research and advocacy group.

Attitudes towards the US president and the United States as a whole have been growing increasingly negative over the past ten years due to the invasion of Iraq, outrage over Guantanamo Bay, and continued frustration over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, which has been tracking attitudes for a decade.

But the current poll is striking in that is illustrates how far Obama’s favorability has fallen in the region, after an initial optimistic spike when he took office.

“It’s because expectations were created that were not met,” Zogby said.

In 2008, the final year of the Bush administration, only nine percent of Egyptians had a favorable attitude towards the United States. A year later, after Obama took office, that number jumped to 30 percent. But now it has plummeted to just five percent of Egyptians who view the United States favorably.

Similar figures in Morocco, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates show that the United States is viewed less favorably now than the final year of the Bush administration.

In a worrisome sign for US policymakers who would like to enlist the region’s support in isolating the Iranian regime, the poll shows that the policies of Iran are viewed more favorably than the policies of the United States.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 12:43:28

the poll shows that the policies of Iran are viewed more favorably than the policies of the United States.

I’ll wait for the poll results after Iran tosses a nuke at Israel… from Iraq or Lebanon. :-/

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:46:47

At least we weren’t the only ones fooled by “Hope and Change”.

Obama = Bush Lite

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-07-13 12:28:29

China has been a Godsend to Detroit. Even as Ford Motor, General Motors, and Chrysler have stumbled in recent years, the country has provided a nice boost to sales of American cars equipped with traditional internal combustible engines.

But when it comes to electric vehicles…well, China has its own plans.

The country is spending billions of dollars to develop home-grown battery and motor technology, hybrids, and full plug-in cars, trucks, and buses. And to protect its nascent industry, the Chinese central government has recently issued draft guidelines that limit foreign investment in certain electric vehicle components and require overseas firms to disclose intellectual property secrets to Chinese companies.

“China wants to place some serious restrictions” on foreign auto makers, says Kevin See, an analyst with Lux Research in Boston. “Clearly, the companies inside China are well positioned to benefit. China wants to protect its value chain all the way to the vehicle.”

The proposed restrictions have alarmed American officials. In an April letter to U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk, Michigan Senators Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow said the guidelines would block U.S. auto makers from accessing a potentially huge market for electric vehicles

Why do we trade with these guys again??? Oh that’s right it allows the elite to strip wealth from teh middle class here in the US.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:36:02

Sorry……can’t take a Senator named “Debbie” seriously.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 12:39:05

and require overseas firms to disclose intellectual property secrets to Chinese companies.

China Gov’t: “Don’t do as we do! Do as we say! :-)

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 12:42:49

Good thing we helped them jump start their auto industry and never said a word when they protected their markets and demanded that we open factories over there..

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 12:44:44

“….proposed restrictions have alarmed American officials.”

Yeah, well, it’s about 15 years too late to be “alarmed”.

They will show “alarm” and “concern”. But this won’t stop them from allowing the Multi-Nationals to sell us out, at 10 cents on the dollar.

Why do we even bother having a Department of Defense anymore? We’re not actually going to start shooting at these guys. No point really, because the Grand Poo Bahs that run the world economy would lose their shirts if that happened. So, it won’t.

Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines. ……get ready to take it in the shorts. The Astroglide is on us.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-13 12:47:43

I will agree with the Chinese on one thing. My favorite car from this year’s Auto Show was the Buick Regal (Turbo, 6-speed manual). I always considered ANYTHING Buick to be for the old man. I don’t know how it happened…but there it is.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 13:23:26

The new Regal is actually an Opel Insignia.

The Chinese Styled Buick is the new Lacrosse.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 13:57:45

“I always considered ANYTHING Buick to be for the old man.”

And poof, you’re the old man. How did this happen? How did I get here? This is not my beautiful house…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:14:38

Buick has always been a very underrated car. Good performance and very reliable.

Their problem has been styling. It now looks like they may have fixed that problem.

The Regal looks and performs as good as anything from Lexus or Infinitie or BMW entry level offerings.

Just like the Malibu finally got its act together. (I’ll still never buy another Chevy, though)

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 14:49:33

Every once in a while, Buick builds something badazz…..see:

-1965, 66-67 Riviera

-1970 Skylark GS Stage 1

-Mid-80s Regal Grand National/GNX (the body said old man car, but the engine made up for it)

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 16:46:54

I remember those.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 21:20:00

Buick’s Rock

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:36:12

MultiCare Health System to lay off up to 350 employees by fall
Posted By C.R. Roberts - Tacoma, WA.

MultiCare Health System, Pierce County’s largest private employer, will cut up to 350 employees from its network by early autumn.

“We will reduce our workforce by about 300 to 350 (full-time employees) out of our total workforce of 9,400 employees effective Oct. 7,” said spokeswoman Marce Edwards on Tuesday morning.

“These will not be across-the-board cuts, but instead careful, selected reductions in areas where cost-savings opportunities exist,” Edwards said.

“MultiCare Health System is facing major cuts in reimbursement from Medicare and Medicaid, as are all health systems across the country,” she said. “We also are seeing more laid-off workers seeking health care who have lost their health insurance due to the struggling economy.”

To minimize the need to layoff workers, the company has asked for volunteers, Edwards said.

The company will provide severance packages and health insurance benefits to affected employees.

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 12:45:52

“I’ve lost enough wages to cover a house payment,” says Jim Golombecki, “so I’m having to scrape.”

And that’s after only 12 days.

Mr. Golombecki repairs vending machines for a living. His main client is the state of Minnesota. He is hardly alone.

We can’t help but add to the file of front-line skirmishes in the fiscal meltdown of state and local governments this morning. Brace yourself. It gets weird.

Tempers are fraying in the Gopher State as a partial government shutdown drags on… even with the troopers still on patrol and the courts still open for business.

State parks are closed. So are the highway rest stops. It’s nearly impossible to get a driver’s license test. Prisoners aren’t accepting visitors. 22,000 state employees are furloughed.

“Where is your conscience?” pleaded a college professor yesterday in the city of St. Cloud, where Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and several Republican lawmakers gathered for a “town hall” meeting.

“It’s not about you,” said the professor, “it is about us who sent you there.”

The scene was surreal. It was as if the governor and lawmakers weren’t at loggerheads over how to make ends meet in the new fiscal year. This was a previously scheduled gathering to discuss special education funding.

Those in attendance weren’t putting up with the charade. Still, it being Minnesota, the tone was polite.

How long the tone will stay polite may depend on how readily people can drown their sorrows. For among the little ways in which people are being affected is their ability to buy booze.

For owners of bars, restaurants and liquor stores whose licenses just expired — or are about to — this is a matter of whether they stay in business or not. No license, no ability to buy inventory.

“We have a permit to sell alcohol, we just don’t have a permit to buy alcohol,” explains bar owner Erik Forsberg.

“This doesn’t just affect retailers,” says Frank Ball of the Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association, “but wholesalers, and the manufacturers, and wedding parties, and church functions, and one-day liquor licenses for charity events, and festivals and the list goes on and on and on.”

Such is life as states and cities downshift into austerity. The new reality manifests in all sorts of unexpected ways.

~ Clipped from The 5Min. Forecast

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 12:58:16

“We have a permit to sell alcohol, we just don’t have a permit to buy alcohol,” explains bar owner Erik Forsberg.

Hey Eric, think outside the “Gov’t box” they’ve put you in, be a radical,…think like an American Kennedy:

Co$tco + x1 day Budget Truck rental, unlimited mileage. ;-)

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:18:35

Got to love corporations and government.

You screw up it’s your fault.

We screw up, it’s your fault.

And we the people, keep taking it.

Truly, we have the society we deserve.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-07-13 14:51:06

“…..troopers still on patrol, and courts still open for business……”

Gotta keep that revenue stream going.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 13:13:15

Banks will no longer sell Savings Bonds
By Sandra Block, USA TODAY
Americans who want to buy a U.S. Savings Bond after Dec. 31 will need two things: at least $25, and an Internet connection.

The Treasury Department is scheduled to announce today that for the first time in 76 years, paper Savings Bonds will no longer be sold at banks and credit unions. Investors who want to buy Savings Bonds after Dec. 31 will need to purchase them electronically through TreasuryDirect, a Web-based program offered by Treasury’s Bureau of Public Debt.

The shift from paper to electronic Savings Bonds will save the government $70 million over the next five years, Public Debt Commissioner Van Zeck says. “That’s a real economic advantage to Treasury in these times when we really need to look at the cost of government programs.”

Treasury has offered Savings Bonds through TreasuryDirect since 2002, but acceptance has been slow. Of the $1.2 billion in Savings Bonds purchased from October 2010 to June 30, 2011, 11% were bought through TreasuryDirect.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:22:04

What is the return on a Saving Bond these days?

(rhetorical question. It’s crap)

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 13:15:54

What think ye ol’ HBBer’s?

(Hwy thinks the city ohfee$cials are like that “certain turtle” down in the Texas brazos bottoms: “That turkle, heez daid, …heez just don’t knows it.” ;-)

Michigan Woman Faces 93 Days in Jail for Planting a Vegetable Garden
by Colleen Vanderlinden / TreeHugger com

It just doesn’t get more ridiculous than this.

Julie Bass of Oak Park, Michigan — a mother of 6, law-abiding citizen, and gardener — is facing 93 days in jail after being charged with a misdemeanor.

Her crime? Planting a vegetable garden in the front yard

About the City Ordinance

Supposedly, Bass is in noncompliance with a city ordinance that states that only “suitable” plant material is allowed on the lawn area of residences. When local media asked city planner Kevin Rulkowski what that meant, he said suitable means “common:” lawn, nice shrubs, and flowers. However, the city ordinance does not specifically state that those are the only allowed plant materials.

About Oak Park

This is not some gated community with HOA regulations. This is an ordinary, working class neighborhood in Oakland County, Michigan. Like nearly every other city in my home state right now, Oak Park is facing financial issues. Here at home, people are amazed that a cash-strapped city has the resources to investigate, charge, and prosecute a resident for something as innocuous as planting a vegetable garden.

Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 13:51:53

This ordinance brought to you through money from Toro, Weed Whacker, Scott’s and ChemLawn.

Come on Monsanto! You have the cash and lawmakers to pass laws REQUIRING everyone to plant a garden. Think of the profits! The profits!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 13:19:13

Hey Bernake, what do you propose be done to FIX our fiscal problems? Since it’s clear what you have said over and over again would fix them, has not. What’s that? Print Mo Money? Wow, you must have a large brain and be from a fancy high dollar school.

Bernanke: U.S. default would cause ‘major crisis’

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — How much clearer can Ben Bernanke be?

The Federal Reserve Chairman has issued a stern warning to Congress repeatedly this year: if it fails to raise the U.S. debt ceiling by Aug. 2, the economic fallout could be “catastrophic,” “self defeating” and “dire.”

And yet, here we are in mid-July, with the country only three weeks away from a possible default, and Bernanke is repeating his warning again — this time in his semi-annual monetary policy report to Congress.

“Clearly, if we went so far as to default on the debt, it would be a major crisis because the Treasury security is viewed as the safest and most liquid security in the world,” Bernanke said, indicating such an event would raise interest rates and send shockwaves rippling through the entire global system.

And contrary to what some Republicans have proposed, just paying interest on the debt to bondholders may not preserve the nation’s pristine credit rating, Bernanke said.

“It’s possible that simply defaulting on our obligations to our citizens might be enough to create a downgrade in credit ratings and higher interest rates for us, which would be counterproductive, of course, since it makes the deficit worse,” he said.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 19:41:39

Isn’t there a big difference between living within one’s means and defaulting on one’s debt?

It seems to me the greatest risk to a lender is overspending by the borrower.

If the borrower cuts back on his spending then the risk to the lender decreases not increases.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-13 13:35:25

Filed under: “Girls just wanna have fun…” ;-)

U.S. women beat France 3-1, score World Cup berth

The second semifinal Wednesday pits Sweden against Japan. The winners will meet for the title on Sunday.

Toss x1 back on ol’ Hwy Rio: Cheers!

Against Brazil Sunday, Team USA came from behind to win a thriller

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-13 21:22:02

Against Brazil Sunday, Team USA came from behind to win a thriller

It was great! (but I didn’t cheer too loudly)

Comment by Robin
2011-07-14 00:39:29

My Japanese wife and I are so disappointed! -:)

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 13:40:10

I just got three new credit card offers and a letter from:

The Ministries of Prayer Master Zachariah
P.O.Box 38955
Los Angleles, CA 90038

He says if I will send him $25.00 he will pray for me and guarantees my prayers will come true, or my money back.

Sounds to good to be true! I know a full blown Prayer Master would not pull my leg. Decisions, decisions, A couple bottles of red wine or having my prayers answered…

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-07-13 14:26:39

You could always pray for an unlimited supply of red wine delivered weekly (or daily as needed), a la getting three wishes and wishing for a million more wishes…

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 14:41:43

Personally, I would only go with a Prayer Grand Master, and not a mere “Master”.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-13 19:11:00

Definitely a couple of bottles of wine. A truly holy man would not ask for money in return for prayers.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-13 19:34:05

“… he guarantees my prayers will come true, or my money back.”

With the powers he claims to possess why should he need you, or your $25.00?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 13:43:41

Germany to fund new coal plants with climate change fund cash
Published: 13 Jul 11 17:12 CET

The German government wants to encourage the construction of new coal and gas power plants with millions of euros from a fund for promoting clean energy and combating climate change.

The plan has come under stiff criticism, but the Ministry of Economics and Technology defended the idea. A spokeswoman said it was necessary as the government switches from nuclear to other renewable energy sources and added that the money would promote the most efficient plants possible.

Funding for the initiative is limited to five percent of the energy and climate change fund’s annual expenditure between 2013 and 2016.

Annual funding for the new plants could total more than €160 million per year between 2013 and 2014 alone, the Berliner Zeitung newspaper reported on Wednesday.

The fund was first established to encourage nuclear plant operators to develop new, renewable forms of energy production. Now that nuclear power is to be phased out by 2022, the fund will pay for research into reducing carbon dioxide emissions from buildings, developing renewable energy sources and storage technologies for them.

Opposition politicians and environmental groups said the plan was wrong because it would promote what they argued were climate-damaging plants. They also worried that money earmarked for other valuable projects could be reduced as a result.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:24:10

Another perfect example of:

“Unclear on the Concept”

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 13:45:27

Doctors threaten Medicaid cutoff in Puerto Rico
By DANICA COTO

SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO (AP) - Physicians are threatening to stop serving nearly a million Puerto Ricans as a result of a dispute between the island’s government and an insurance company over reimbursements for treating poor people.

Gov. Luis Fortuno on Wednesday appealed to the doctors to avoid cutting off patients, saying it would be illegal. In an interview with WAPA, a local TV station, he also said the government will withhold two months of payments to the insurance company unless it settles with doctors, hospitals, laboratories and others.

Physicians say the company, Medical Card System Inc., owes them as much as $60 million. They plan to decide soon if they will stop stop seeing Medicaid patients until they get paid, said Dr. Joaquin Vargas, president of the Independent Practice Association, which represents 38 medical groups.

“If this payment does not occur, the services will be threatened,” he said. “It is a painful situation for us.”

The standoff began shortly after the government launched a revamped Medicaid program in October, promising patients extended hours, more access to mental health services and fewer pre-approvals required to see specialists. The program caters to those who make less than $800 a month and to the disabled.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 14:25:56

Got to love that efficiency of the private sector!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-13 14:40:17

So 25% of Puerto Rico is on Medicaid.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 15:39:41

So What are we going to do about it? Answer… Not a damn thing, we need their $upport.

CHINA MISSILE SALES
The Washington Times Online Edition

Newly released classified documents reveal China’s continued violations of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) with sales of missiles and parts to Iran, Syria and Pakistan.

A Sept. 18, 2009, State Department cable on the issue was prepared for an international meeting of the MTCR that year in Rio de Janeiro. The MTCR is an informal association of 34 states that seeks to limit exports of missiles with ranges greater than 185 miles and warheads heavier than 1,000 pounds.

Sent under Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s signature, the cable included a report on Chinese missile proliferation that on three occasions referred to a “lack of political will” by China to stop missile transfers.

“Chinese authorities and firms fail to conduct sufficient evaluations of missile-applicable transactions or to take steps to know their customers,” the report said.

Several cables, labelled “secret,” were made public on Monday by the anti-secrecy site WikiLeaks, showing Chinese violations or circumventions of the accord.

“Other firms that are aware of the vulnerabilities in China’s export-control system take steps to conceal sensitive transactions and avoid detection, including by adopting new names and falsifying shipping documentation. Additionally, some firms may take advantage of government connections to skirt Chinese regulations,” the cable said.

Among the violations were sales to Iran by China’s Dalian Sunny Industries, also known as LIMMT; sales of ballistic-missile goods to Syria; and transfers by Shanghai Technical By-Products International Corp. to Iran of ballistic-missile items.

Sanctions were imposed on two Chinese firms in 2009: LIMMT for sales of graphite, tungsten, gyroscopes and accelerometers; and Bellamax for steel alloys, gyroscopes and ball bearings.

 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-13 15:42:13

Screw Moodys, who really gives a crap.

Moody’s Places U.S. on Review for Downgrade As Debt Talks Stall

Young Americans for Liberty club member Tony Burke, center, asks UC Irvine students to sign a petition to congress protesting the national debt on April 5, 2011 in Irvine, Calif. Photographer: Jebb Harris/Orange County Register/AP

Moody’s Investors Service put the U.S. under review for a credit rating downgrade as talks to raise the government’s $14.3 trillion debt limit stall, adding to concern that political gridlock will lead to a default.

The Aaa ratings of financial institutions directly linked to the U.S. government, including Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Federal Home Loan Banks, and the Federal Farm Credit Banks, were also put on review for cuts, Moody’s said in a statement today.

The U.S., rated Aaa since 1917, was put on review for the first time since 1995 on concern the debt limit will not be raised in time to prevent a missed payment of interest or principal on outstanding bonds and notes even though the risk remains low, Moody’s said. The rating would likely be reduced to the Aa range and there is no assurance that Moody’s would return its top rating even if a default is quickly cured.

“It certainly underscores the importance of passing the debt ceiling and not putting us in default status, and making sure there’s a longer term fiscal plan to contain spending and the deficit we’ve been running up over the last few years,” said Anthony Cronin, a Treasury bond trader at Societe General SA in New York, one of the 20 primary dealers that trade with the Federal Reserve. “Maybe it’s the impetus to say we’ll need more of a concession.”

 
Comment by MrBubble
2011-07-13 15:46:48

From a company press release:

“Glass, Lewis & Co. today announced the launch of a new service designed to help institutional investors and plan sponsors recover their losses on private-label residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS). The proprietary research and recovery-facilitation service will help institutional investors assess their RMBS investments, identifying securitizations in which there is a high probability that loan origination misconduct has led to investor losses, and enabling investors with overlapping holdings to collectively seek recoveries. The service will benefit any institution with current or past exposure to RMBS investments.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-13 16:54:49

Calls for U.S. to investigate, prosecute News Corp

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/calls-u-investigate-prosecute-news-corp-grow-louder-184759182.html

As members of the British Parliament trumpet Rupert Murdoch’s decision to drop News Corp.’s proposed $12 billion takeover of BSkyB as a “victory,” there are rumblings from lawmakers in the United States that the company may have violated American law over the course of the phone-hacking scandal plaguing the company. And now members of Congress are beginning to weigh in.

How is this relavent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation#Holdings

News Corp is one of the, if not THE, largest owner of MSM, not in the world, but OF the world.

THEY were the largest champions of the RE bubble.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-13 17:47:17

News Corp is one of the, if not THE, largest owner of MSM, not in the world, but OF the world.

THEY were the largest champions of the RE bubble.

And isn’t it nice to see this phone-hacking scandal blow up like bubble gum all over their face?

 
 
 
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