Why do we even superficially attempt to buy off failed governments and deluded martyrs who are willing to blow themselves up at the end of the day? If they do so without our draining dollars, would we not be the net winner?
I think people should get what they want, and if people want to kill each other over interpretations of the koran…let them…Its a religious Jihad, not political so they should be aiming at each others mosques and leave the innocent bystanders alone.
And we should only be in iraq and Afghan to protect the oils fields since that is in our national interest to do so. Having our troops in the line of fire is just plain disgusting
Foreclosure activity slowed in first half of 2011
Report: Delays in bank processing push likely US foreclosures until 2012, stalling recovery
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The number of homes taken back by lenders in the first half of this year fell 30 percent compared with the same 2010 period, the result of delays in foreclosure processing that threaten to stall a U.S. housing recovery.
Banks seized 421,212 homes in the first six months of the year, down from 529,633 between January and June last year, foreclosure listing firm RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday.
The decline reflects lenders taking longer to move against homeowners who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments. The banks are working through foreclosure documentation problems that first surfaced last fall and an ensuing logjam in some state courts. Lenders also have put off on taking action against delinquent borrowers as U.S. home sales have slowed this year.
As the processing delays mount, however, so has the backlog of potential foreclosures — homes that otherwise would have been repossessed by lenders this year.
RealtyTrac estimates that 1 million foreclosure-related notices that should have been filed by banks this year will be pushed to next year. The filings include notices for defaults, scheduled home auctions and home repossessions — warnings that can lead to a home eventually being lost to foreclosure.
New Palm Beach County foreclosures double in month
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:30 a.m. Thursday, July 14, 2011
The number of Palm Beach County homeowners who fell into foreclosure last month more than doubled from May, a possible sign that banks are recovering from paperwork problems and ramping up pursuit of delinquent borrowers.
In June, lenders filed 1,061 initial foreclosure actions in Palm Beach County, up from 484 in May, according to a report to be released today by the Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac, which measures foreclosures nationwide.
The numbers are still below those filed during the same time in 2010 and much lower than at the height of the foreclosure crisis in late 2008 and early 2009 when as many as 3,000 foreclosures were being filed in Palm Beach County each month.
Also last month, 964 Palm Beach County homes were repossessed in the final stage of foreclosure, the most of any county in Florida and 20 percent of all repossessions statewide.
Analysts have been predicting since the beginning of this year that foreclosures would pick up after banks improved foreclosure procedures after a fall moratorium.
But determining whether June’s statistics are the beginning of a flood or just a blip is “like trying to read tea leaves,” said Guy Cecala, CEO and publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance.
“But determining whether June’s statistics are the beginning of a flood or just a blip is “like trying to read tea leaves,” said Guy Cecala, CEO and publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance”.
I’ll take a shot at reading those “tea leaves” Guy… It’s not just a blip! Move to higher ground.
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REPORT ABUSE boa declined our short sale because they wanted the buyer to raise his offer $6k. the banks are trying to help people, huh?!
trying to sell
10:43 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE We intentionally bought a house “below our means” 19 years ago. Peers who refinanced numerous times for ski vacations and granite countertops, etc. to “up their status,” complain they’ve “lost” money on their homes. Really? Since when is it the “greedy” banks’ fault for expecting people to pay mortgages they signed off on? What made me smart enough to not buy (or refinance) beyond my means, and the next guy “too dumb” to know better than to buy (or refinance) above their means?
H
10:46 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE Raise your hand if you know of anyone who is “intentionally” not paying their mortgage, moved out, and is actually renting their house out and “pocketing the cash.” Cool, and I as a taxpayer and mortager payer am responsible for helping clean up this mess (by paying more taxes)?
h
10:52 AM, 7/14/2011
10:46 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE Raise your hand if you know of anyone who is “intentionally” not paying their mortgage, moved out, and is actually renting their house out and “pocketing the cash.” Cool, and I as a taxpayer and mortager payer am responsible for helping clean up this mess (by paying more taxes)?
I can think of a case of that right up the street. Tenants bailed last November and the place was foreclosed on in March.
What if a privately funded group hired an accounting firm to audit a megabank with emphasis in regards to mortgage performance to date? It is just possible you could get a story here…
The odds of that happening are about the same as a private group auditing the FED or the CIA. Those are tightly guarded secrets. If that knowledge were public it would be the end of the (financial) world as we know it.
You can hire anyone you want to “audit” any business you want. But if the organization you want audited doesn’t volunteer to participate, you aren’t going to get to see anything but the already public records.
Good luck.
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Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-14 10:33:11
Oh hell. I guess we just have to stand by and watch them lie and con everybody as they get richer.
I was just thinking that they have GOT to speed this process up for the sake of their own balance sheets. They were saying on NPR this morning that there are 3 years worth of foreclosure filings in the court system right now waiting for a stamp. How can they let the process drag out for three years? That is three years during which the banks will not be receiving mortgage payments. I wonder what will give. I wonder what they will come up with to speed up the process without trying to circumvent the system (which is what caused this slowdown in the first place).
I wish it would happen, but I don’t think it will. Faster foreclosures in judicial states would require those states to hire more people, which isn’t going to happen with the state of finances in pretty much every state. I think the judicial process is so slow that ultimately it is going to push lenders to other things: short sales, creative ways to write down debt, etc.
One of the more interesting ideas I’ve heard recently is for underwater debtors who could walk-away. The suggestion is that if they pay their mortgage for 3-5 years despite being underwater, the lender will write off 10-30% of the principal balance of the loan.
Ultimately, what this will mean is that states with a non-judicial foreclosure process will be first to emerge from the mess. The most notable problem states that are non-judicial are AZ, NV, and CA. The most notable states that are judicial (i.e. with the potential the mess dragging on) are FL, NY, and IL. I guess the good news is that 30 of 51 states/DC have a non-judicial path to foreclosure. The bad news is that the 21 states that are judicial only include a lot of population (NY, Mass, Maryland, IL, NJ, FL).
Ultimately, what this will mean is that states with a non-judicial foreclosure process will be first to emerge from the mess. The most notable problem states that are non-judicial are AZ, NV, and CA.
And, when it comes to recovery, my money’s on…
…California. Why? Because, despite its problems, it has one of the largest, most diversified economies in the world.
AZ? Still very obsessed with real estate development and population growth.
NV? If it isn’t gambling-related, it’s not being considered.
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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-14 12:27:33
My money is also on CA, for an additional reason:
Despite the press, there were a lot fewer homes built in CA relative to it’s population growth than most other states since 1990. There are simply more people per existing housing unit than every state other than Utah (it’s close though…), which is why there is a relatively low vacancy rate for housing in CA (especially as compared to AZ, NV, FL, etc.).
Comment by oxide
2011-07-14 13:57:25
My money is on Maryland and Virginia. Any government cuts are going to happen slow. Also, reductions in staff — either for federal or contracting — is done by retirement attrition. Those are folks who can afford to retire.
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-14 15:58:32
Agree with the government cuts, and your points on retirees. But, you have to get through excess supply for significant recovery.
While Maryland’s rental vacancy rate has fallen from 14% at worst back to about 8% (about where it was in early 2005), the homeowner vacancy rate is nearly 4%, up from 1% in Q1 2005 (and importantly, up from just over 2% in mid-2009). And it’s a judicial foreclosure state…
Virginia seems to have the opposite problem. Homeowner vacancy rate is at about 2% and not much higher than it was in 2005/2006 (when it was around 1.5%). Rental vacancy rates however are at about 10% and haven’t been coming down. Good news there though is that Virginia is non-judicial as a foreclosure state.
CA has a rental vacancy rate of about 6%, down from the peak at over 8% a little over a year ago, and about where it was from 2005-2008 for perspective. CA’s homeowner vacancy rate is currently at about 2.2%, similar to VA in that the homeowner vacancy rate was between about 1.5% and 2.5% from mid-2005 until the end of 2007.
Time will tell. I think though we can all agree on one thing. Florida probably won’t be the first to recover…the combination of judicial foreclosure only, and high supply to burn through (3.8% homeowner vacancy rate and 16.3% rental vacancy rate) means a fair bit more of time to pass before recovery.
I am certainly glad all these big thinkers are popping up pointing out things the rest of us would have never seen coming!
Reinhart-Rogoff Warn Rising Government Debt Levels Threaten Global Economy -July 14 (Bloomberg)
Rising government debts pose a significant risk to economic growth and financial stability in the U.S. and Europe, economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff wrote in a column for Bloomberg View.
Nations historically have run into trouble when public debt exceeds 90 percent of gross domestic product, Reinhart, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, and Rogoff, a Harvard University professor, said. And by their reckoning, the U.S. and some European nations have passed that threshold.
“While we expect to see more than one member of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development default or restructure their debt before the European crisis is resolved, that isn’t the greatest threat to most advanced economies,” they wrote. “The biggest risk is that debt will accumulate until the overhang weighs on growth.”
That’s for next year , a 20% drop in housing prices . What about the year after that ? 19% ? That would be a slowing of the yearly drop , a slight ‘improvement”.
“With housing slumping again, Shilling says recession is coming to a town near you in 2012.”
Recession must be touring with Def Leppard and Heart.
DEF LEPPARD, Great Britain’s premiere arena rock band, will make its triumphant return to the U.S. with a summer tour kicking off on June 15 in West Palm Beach, Florida. Joining DEF LEPPARD for this highly anticipated tour are Seattle rock legends HEART and RECESSION. Tickets for the Live Recession tour will go on sale on beginning March 4 at Ticketmaster.com and RecessionNation.com.
I saw Def Leppard as an opening act a billion years ago. Great band.
Jeff, Muggy & Palmy, the headline band was Blackfoot, out of Jacksonville if memory serves. There were touring on their “Strikes” album which is excellent. You guys remember them?
I love Def Leppard. Their music has a great spirit and I’ll match it up to any hip-hop boom-boom-boom car rattler or Mexican polka any day.
Not familiar with Blackfoot, though.
Hey, I watched Almost Famous again the other night. Great flick. I’m old enuf to remember when Ben Fong-Torres was the editor at Rolling Stone. The whole portrayal of the band Stillwater in the movie was awesome, guys were just like that back in the day. Billy Crudup and Jason Lee did an awesome job.
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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-14 09:24:05
+1 one of my favorite movies.
Comment by Realtors Are Liars
2011-07-14 10:47:24
Oh my word Palmetto, Floridian….. Blackfoot is a FL band. Think Skynyrd, Hatchet and 38 special.
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President Richard Fisher said central bank efforts to boost the economy have reached their limits and the U.S. faces a “fiscal reckoning” that only lawmakers can resolve.
“Our great country now finds itself in a very difficult predicament,” Fisher, 62, said today in a speech in Dallas. “Congress can no longer carry on as before, oblivious to the deleterious effect of spending our, and the successor generations’, money with unfunded abandon.”
The regional Fed chief, who votes on policy this year, reiterated his view that the central bank has done enough and he’ll be among the first to advocate tighter policy if prices and inflation expectations rise. Fisher spoke a few hours after Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told Congress that he and his colleagues are prepared to take new action, including buying more government bonds, if the economy appears to be in danger of stalling.
“There may be some things the chairman mentioned this morning — those are tinkering at the margin,” Fisher told reporters after the speech. “We’ve exhausted our ammunition, in my view” and expanding the Fed’s balance sheet from about $2.7 trillion to more than $3 trillion “might spook the marketplace,” he said.
“I do not personally see the benefit of more monetary accommodation even if the economy weakens further,” Fisher said. “Again, there’s so much liquidity out there, the question is, ‘What is the trigger to put it to work?’”
The Chinese make cars and car repairs and hamburgers and beer and beach vacations and music lessons for little Timmy and a nose job for mom and membership at the club for dad and travel league baseball for junior?
It doesn’t all end up in China. And even what does, often circulates through many hands along the way- thus maintaining needed velocity.
I remember learning decades ago that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few was the cause of the Great Depression. Somewhere along the way the PTB decided to ignore history.
From a globaloutsourcing standpoint, this Great Depression is the distribution of wealth into the hands of too many. The US cooked enough food for 40 people and invited 100. Too many people, not enough money and work to go around.
Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. The workers who are striking in Indonesia have some leverage, because they have the advantage of a natural resource: gold mines. If there is a strike from workers in China who have no value to the MNC’s other than the cheapness of their labor: not a chance. “Made in China” can change to “Made in South Sudan” very quickly.
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Comment by butters
2011-07-14 06:22:39
Really? How about the Asians were nice enough to invite us to their party. We have eating, playing and selling and buying houses. It’s the Asians who have been gathering foods, fishing, cooking and making stuff. We are just sitting their and not contributing at all. Well I suppose in USA you call consumption a contribution. Obama probably does and so does the Bernank.
Comment by Big V
2011-07-14 06:57:41
Butters:
The US industrial machine has invited too many workers. Asia’s industrial machine does not produce enough demand for laborers to keep its people working. Ours produces enough demand for us, but it does not produce enough for us AND them.
Comment by oxide
2011-07-14 07:41:03
How about the Asians were nice enough to invite us to their party.
Epic fail, o-butter-us-up.
Where do you think the Asians got their party hats? That would be from American patriots like Jack Welch, IBM –> Lenovo, Big Box pricing structures, HP, GM and other car companies, Cascadian Farm and their “organic” broccoli, Stickly, universities that paid money to Chinese grad students, and every company which gave away intellectual property to the Chinese just to add an extra buck to their quarterly earnings.
And this all started 20 years BEFORE the housing festival starting in the US.
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-14 10:02:36
You Gen-X’ers are too damn lazy. That’s why the economy is suffering according to Greenspan:
Here are his [Greenspan’s] words, in an interview with The Globalist:
“Baby boomers are being replaced by groups of young workers who have regrettably scored rather poorly in international educational match-ups over the last two decades. The average income of U.S. households headed by 25-year-olds and younger has been declining relative to the average income of the baby boomer population. This is a reasonably good indication that the productivity of the younger part of our workforce is declining relative to the level of productivity achieved by the retiring baby boomers. This raises some major concerns about the productive skills of our future U.S. labor force.”
Comment by Big V
2011-07-14 10:26:55
How do you define “productivity”? If productivity is the amount of wealth created by the company for the worker, then productivity is down. If productivity is the amount of product created by the worker in exchange for the money, then productivity is way up.
Comment by oxide
2011-07-14 14:11:58
regrettably scored rather poorly in international educational match-ups over the last two decades.
Just to make sure I understand this correctly:
The baby boomers did better than students from other countries.
The Gen-xers did worse than students from other countries.
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Therefore, Gen-xers are doing worse than baby boomers.
Problem is, students from other countries are doing better NOW than they did THEN, so using international students is a false comparison. It’s entirely possible — probable, actually — that Gen-xers could do worse than kids from other countries, but still do better than the baby boomers.
And it’s hard to equate the XY-ers with the boomers. Which is lazier: Facebook or “tuning out” at Woodstock? Which is more slacky: Getting a useless college degree, or not going to college at all? Who is more productive: the kid who does internships but never gets paid, or the guy who never had trouble finding mind-numbing manual labor work?
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 15:25:12
American workers have the highest productivity the world, BAR NONE, with the least amount of time off, benefits and rights of ALL industrial nations.
There is more productive capacity in this country than I can count. US companies are hiring all over the place. The only problem is that they are not hiring US citizens. They are offshoring, importing workers, and hiring illegal immigrants.
You solve that problem and the Federal Reserve will be out of the hot seat, no?
That’s the problem with globalization: you are competing with hungry serfs in third world countries for jobs. And unlike us their countries provide them with virtually free higher ed.
Granted, their “college experience” would be uncrecognizable to us as their univeristy is most likely housed in a single, no frills, dilapidated multistory building. No student center, no gym, nor dorms, no cafeteria, a library most US high schools would laugh at, no atheltics, no clubs, no landscaping, instructors teach back to back classes all day from 8 AM until 7PM. Minimal overhead staff. You just attend class and go home when you’re done.
Sounds more like he’s buying a product line and an existing base of customers. This was Mark Hurd’s mode of operation at HP. Don’t develop anything new inhouse, after all that’s risky and you will end up with some duds. Instead find companies with interetsing tech and poor sales/marketing, buy them at a discount and then fire half the staff.
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Comment by cactus
2011-07-14 13:20:38
RFMD did that too over paid for serenza
Corporations have tons of money so they look around for ways to spend it I guess. Buyouts and mergers must somehow make CEO’s extra money ?
Hiring new workers is so 1990’s
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 15:36:09
M&As do indeed make the BODs money. Tons of it. In a variety of ways as well.
Polly would be better qualified to explain ti to you, but the most basic is to sell off as much of the newly acquired company as you can while keeping the core technology/service/market that you bought it for in the first place, cutting staff as the same time.
This helps to offset the acquisition costs.
You also keep it operating as an independent subsidiary. Once the “excess” is trimmed, this almost automatically boosts the stock price, which of course, the BOD has given to itself generously.
This profits the BOD.
This is just a “down and dirty” explanation.
Comment by polly
2011-07-14 15:59:28
It is simpler than this. The folks in the M&A department in a big company get their bonus based on identifying and carrying out purchases. If they can’t find anything worth buying they find something not worth buying and massage the numbers by making some wild a–ed assumptions about how synergies in the product lines or how the assets can be better deployed in the acquiring company’s core business or whatever. The projected “savings” that they predict as a result of the acquisition almost never take place. They are better than doing nothing less than a third of the time.
And yes, the lawyers and accounting people spend a lot of time getting rid of the bits that they didn’t really want but had to take to get the bits they did want. Lots of people yacking on the phone about who is responsible for Novermber’s ratable portion of the property tax bill. Pathetic really.
I heard Richard Fisher speak at the University of Arizona business school last year. He was test-driving the “end too big to fail” speech that he gave, ISTR, last June.
He’s one of the few fed governors who’s actually been a commercial banker. Most of the rest have had careers in government and/or academia.
Flash Mobs Thwart Foreclosures in Spain (Bloomberg)
Dial-a-Pickets Pressure Spain to Change Home Foreclosure Law
Spain’s Parliament is investigating mortgage rules that mean homeowners remain saddled with debt after handing back their keys.
Luis Dominguez got up at dawn to take a 5 a.m. bus to join a human chain around a Madrid home threatened with foreclosure. Three weeks earlier, the crowd had come to him after he telephoned for help.
“I was facing eviction and they saved me from losing my home,” said Dominguez, 74, a pensioner with a walking stick in one hand and a five-foot placard saying “Stop Evictions” in the other. “I came today to show my gratitude and support.”
The 300 protesters, organized by a group called La Plataforma de los Afectados por la Hipoteca, or PAH, managed to win a reprieve for the property’s owner, a single mother with a disabled son. Rising unemployment in Spain may lead to 300,000 foreclosures this year and next, according to Adicae, a rights group representing bank customers.
Spain has become a battleground between banks hurt by a five-fold increase in residential mortgage arrears since 2007 and debt-laden homeowners who are appealing to the government to reduce the burden on those facing foreclosure.
“In large parts of the U.S., you can just walk away from your home and your debt, and that contributed to the country’s banking crisis,” Jordi Fabregat, a professor of management and financial control at Barcelona’s Esade Business School, said by telephone. “That can’t be done here, so the banks are protected from defaults during a crisis.”
Property Bust
Similar to Ireland, whose credit rating was cut to non- investment grade this week by Moody’s Investors Service, Spain’s economic crisis was driven by a credit-fuelled property bubble that burst. The housing boom that ended in 2008 left Spanish banks with 313 billion euros ($441 billion) in loans related to real estate activity as of June, according to the Bank of Spain.
“I was facing eviction and they saved me from losing my home,” said Dominguez, 74, a pensioner with a walking stick in one hand and a five-foot placard saying “Stop Evictions” in the other. “I came today to show my gratitude and support.”
what happened to the “buy a home and have it paid off before you retire at all cost” mentality.
“what happened to the “buy a home and have it paid off before you retire at all cost” mentality”.
“that’s what my parent’s did”.
That was the smart thing to do but in this new age, a person need not be prudent, because they deserve to be bailed out no matter how poorly they ran their life’s.
Right. Luck never has anything to do with it. Sometimes even if you live well, you can end up destitute at 74. I suspect that the percentage of boomers and younger generations that will be impoverished at 74 will be significantly higher than the greatest generation and that many of the prudent will be among them.
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Comment by michael
2011-07-14 10:54:21
unless i know his entire life story from beginning to end i cannot make a “luck” determination.
Comment by Max Power
2011-07-14 12:35:56
People that make good choices also tend to be luckier. People that continually make poor choices tend to have bad luck.
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 16:10:51
Sorry Max, but having your job offshored has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Having laws passed that take away your civil rights has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Taking away consumer safeguards has nothing to with good or poor choices.
Having your pension taken away by your company on a whim has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Being falsely arrested and having your life destroyed as a result has nothing to with good or poor choices.
Being discriminated against for whatever reason on the job and in your life has nothing to with good or poor choices.
There it goes again, the single mother with a disabled son. Why can’t the dad take them in? Does he already have another wife? Doesn’t he still have to pay some sort of support? I hate it when they mention that the mom is single, and we’re supposed to assume that the dad is like dead or something.
I just assume that she could not manage to get him to say “I do” at the right time and in front of the right people. I know that isn’t true for everyone, but it’s the way I would bet.
It could be he left when the disabled son was born. And if he is unemployed, there may not be enough to provide support for them.
I once knew a woman with 4 children under 6. Two had cerebral palsy. Her husband left when the second disabled child was born. He couldn’t handle it. She couldn’t abdicate, so she was stuck.
That’s what the law is for. If the dad is unemployed, then unemployment is the problem. If the dad is low-paid, then low wages are the problem. I just HATE IT when all these FB stories go out of their way to mention that the man is not in the house, as if his lack of presence automatically translates into a lack of responsibility.
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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 16:13:43
Hard to be responsible when your job gets offshored.
Even harder when it’s millions of others as well.
Not to say there aren’t slackers, but lack of millions of jobs FAR overshadows the problem of losers.
This is starting to get really interesting, wonder how the “policy makers” will handle this?
ITEM: Italy Too Big to Bail Out as Crisis Enters ‘New Phase’(Bloomberg)
The euro’s fate may lie in the hands of Italian bondholders as the region’s debt crisis threatens to envelop the Mediterranean nation, according to Credit Agricole Corporate & Investment Bank.
The CHART OF THE DAY shows Italy’s government debt burden, the euro area’s largest at 1.8 trillion euros ($2.6 trillion), dwarfs those of Greece, Ireland and Portugal, which already received bailouts, and Spain, which has the next-highest borrowing costs. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is under pressure from coalition partners to limit its contribution to sovereign bailouts. The European Financial Stability Facility currently has a lending capacity of 250 billion euros.
“If Italy gets to the point where its debt auctions start to fail and it loses access to the market, it becomes difficult to imagine who would have the kind of money that would be required to rescue it,” said Luca Jellinek, head of European interest-rate strategy at Credit Agricole CIB in London. “It’s undoubtedly bigger than the current scope of the EFSF.”
European Central Bank incoming President Mario Draghi said yesterday that the euro-area’s debt crisis has “entered a new phase” and policy makers must come up with a “clear” response to stop the contagion that threatens the survival of the region’s single currency.
Isn’t Japan’s debt burden also massive? The only difference is that their citizens have lent the money to themselves in large part.
How much of the US debt is internal? Social Security lent to the US government about $2.6T, with other “intergovernmental” borrowings at another $2T… US citizens holding a portion. In December 2010, Foreign Holders of debt ha ~$4.4T of the total (these seem to be mostly foreign central banks, not necessarily individuals).
I’d love to see a graph of Foreign holders of a country’s debt as measured by percentage of GDP of those countries. For the US, our number would be ~31%. What would Greece be? Italy? I’d give them a pass, and let them count other EU countries be intergovernmental borrowings…
It’s the marching of the frogs near Buckingham Palace…
New arrest in Murdoch phone hacking scandal
By REID J. EPSTEIN | 7/14/11 7:06 AM EDT
Politicodotcom
A former high-level News Corp. editor was arrested on Thursday, the ninth since January in the phone hacking scandal that is growing by the day, while Britain’s deputy prime minister said Rupert Murdoch should be “frogmarched” to Parliament to testify about the situation.
The latest developments come as the lead attorney for the company’s British newspaper subsidiary suddenly quit after 26 years. Tom Crone was responsible for vetting stories in The News of the World and the Sun, each of which stands accused of publishing reports based on illegally obtained information.
British news outlets have identified the man arrested Wednesday as former News of the World executive editor Neil Wallis, who served as the paper’s deputy editor and executive editor from 2003 to 2009, when the bulk of the hacking complaints took place.
The ridiculousness of this whole raise-the-debt-ceiling issue: see, there’s this central bank acting like a mob boss, saying “borrow more from us or we’ll kill ya!”
And then Wall Street starts threatening, Moody’s is threatening, the IMF is threatening, Obama is threatening, blah, blah.
STFU, every last one of them. It’s just an invented system, fer Chrissakes. They invent it, we rent it. It’s so easy to solve, just put a different system of debt free money issued by the government in place and life goes on.
“just put a different system of debt free money issued by the government in place and life goes on”.
The/our system will ride along on it’s debt based fiats until it crashes, burns and ends up on the ash heap of history. Just like all the rest have through time.
Yes, travel back through time going back thousands of years and you will find that fiats currency’s always fail in one form or another. Start with China they were the first to use paper money, it didn’t work out to well. That was a long,long time ago.
An un-anchored fiat currency always end the same way, toast. How long it takes is another matter.
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Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-14 06:22:29
“An un-anchored fiat currency always end the same way, toast. How long it takes is another matter.”
I wanted specifics, not generalities. Take Europe, for example. Their individual currencies didn’t fail, they were voluntarily ended and the wealth transferred to the Euro. The Euro may be in trouble, but it hasn’t failed. There are quite a few fiat currencies that haven’t failed, at least as yet.
Also, I believe many of the currencies that you say have failed were ‘anchored by’ gold or silver (or silk!). The question of what you mean by ‘fiat money’ then comes up.
What I think you’re really saying is that anything other than physical gold or silver won’t last forever. But it can last generations, as we have seen. How many generations, no one knows.
Comment by Big V
2011-07-14 07:07:06
Are there some unanchored, nonfiat currencies that have survived?
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-14 07:43:24
“Are there some unanchored, nonfiat currencies that have survived?”
IOUs? I can’t really think of what an unanchored, nonfiat currency would be.
Maybe the US dollar, in countries where it’s not the official currency, but still can be used in practice as money? Kind of stretching the concept though of nonfiat, though, by saying that since their government hasn’t decreed it a currency, the people nonetheless perceive an intrinsic value in it ( kind of like gold or silver) that allows it to be used as a currency.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-14 08:34:34
Or this:
wikipedia
In a small number of countries, private banknote issue continues to this day. For example, by virtue of the complex constitutional setup in the United Kingdom, certain commercial banks in two of the union’s four constituent countries (Scotland and Northern Ireland) continue to print their own banknotes for domestic circulation, even though they are not fiat money or declared in law as legal tender anywhere. The UK’s central bank, the Bank of England, prints notes which are legal tender in England and Wales; these notes are also usable as money (but not legal tender) in the rest of the UK (see Banknotes of the pound sterling).
Comment by Big V
2011-07-14 09:28:33
alpha:
Those are all unanchored fiat examples.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-14 09:45:51
Those are all unanchored fiat examples.
Unanchored yes, as per your requirements, and also:
“certain commercial banks…continue to print their own banknotes for domestic circulation, even though they are not fiat money or declared in law as legal tender anywhere”
So yes, there are some (rare) examples of unanchored, nonfiat currencies ’surviving’.
Comment by Steve J
2011-07-14 10:36:49
Are there any anchored fiat examples in the world today?
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-14 12:59:12
Note that anchors can be summarily unanchored (as in the U.S. ending gold convertibility of the dollar in 1971), and anchors can be summarily outlawed (as gold ownership was made illegal in the U.S. in 1933).
Actually, what happened was that Congress passed and the president signed a budget that requires more money than comes in as taxes and more borrowing than has already been authorized.
If we needed to avoid this situation, then they should have passed/signed a budget that didn’t require any new borrowing. But they didn’t. There is a new fiscal year starting on October 1st. Pretty easy to have put it off until then, but they decided to have the face off now.
If they had put it off until then, not reaching an agreement would have meant a shut down of certain government services like processing applications from newly Social Security eligible seniors and passports and stuff like that. Now, we don’t really know what they are going to shut off, because anything they decide not to pay is breaking the law -the budget that has already been passed.
I think that September would have been a better time to fight it out, mostly because shutting down “non-essential” (not really non-essential, really less time urgent) government services is less disruptive to people’s lives than not paying out SS checks (or part of them) or not paying hospitals for Medicare patients, or whatever else they could end up not paying. Plus upping nearly all interest costs, and gobs of financial institutions having to find a different AAA investment to sub in for their Treasuries or whatever.
I suspect they wanted to have this budget fight now and have it later, too. Anything to put Obama in the hot seat and keep him from doing anything else. It worked last December when they wrung significant concessions from Obama on policy issues like letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
“Actually, what happened was that Congress passed and the president signed a budget that requires more money than comes in as taxes and more borrowing than has already been authorized.”
NPR had some legal scholar noting that because of this, that the President actually had a legal argument to borrow more without a formal debt ceiling increase.
The whole thing is a three ring circus. They should just put a tent over the WH, House and Senate.
And Lawrence Tribe pretty much demolished the argument in an op-ed last week. You can’t extend the meaning of debt of the US to include payments that can, actually, be changed by changing the law. Besides, the administration doesn’t want to try that one and they are the only ones who can.
There is an analysis in the Washington Post today says running out of money wouldn’t be planned out in the ways I have been describing. They seem to think it would be a day by day thing. Day 1 $X are coming in and $6X dollars need to go out, so $X worth of bills get paid and $5X don’t. Same thing on a day by day basis until the issue is resolved.
I have no idea why they are assuming that no comprehensive plan will be implemented. Maybe because that would require a little pre-planning and since they were honest about August 2nd being the actual date, they won’t have any time to pre-plan?
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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-14 11:32:44
Didn’t see that op-ed…I’ll take a look.
They’ll have time to pass a deficit reduction plan that no one will have time to read or think about. Perfect.
If Wall Street and the big corporate donors do not want a debt default, there will be no debt default.
It’s that simple. All this political posturing is just political kabuki theater.
The news media is breathlessly reporting on this stuff. And the politicians are responding in kind to having the spotlight, with all the acting. I guess there’s little other drama for the infotainment industry.
If it’s bad for Wall Street and the big donors, a debt default will not happen.
Obama’s demanding an end to this nonsense until after 2012 was a good strategy. The R’s would have been overjoyed if they could string this out in 2-week intervals for the next year or so, gaining little concessions each time.
Another thought on “bubbles being based on virtual products”: If you can get actual cash for a virtual product (stocks, promises to pay (debt), other), then you have the makings of a bubble.
Real estate? I think demand is relatively consistent. But suddenly give all those who wish to buy the means to buy (aka debauched loans), and they will bid up the prices. I guess I’d call real estate a secondary bubble, resulting from the underlying bubble in debt purchases.
Do any of you have thoughts about the value of a colonoscopy? Are they worthwhile or are they just another procedure that the medical community is pushing to generate revenue?
Have any of you had the procedure? If so then I’d be grateful to hear your comments.
I haven’t had one yet, but have friends who have. No real drama. Apparently you drink some nasty substance a day or two before the procedure, to clean your digestive tract out. At the office, you are sedated, asked to lay on your side. After a a few minutes, the procedure is over. It’s not painful. A little weird. That’s what I’ve heard, from first-hand accounts.
When I have to get one, it will require all of my self control not to say, “Usually, I get dinner and a movie first.”
I had one (and an endoscopy, which goes in the other end) because I was having some uncomfortable issues at age 37.
Glad I did, found some items of concern that prompted a few dietary changes, but it was also something that common sense dictated was obvious. Overall for the copay it wasn’t a bad deal. I’ve been through much worse procedures and operations in my life and wouldn’t rank the procedure as anything memorable.
As for the prep, it isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. I had to drink eight, 8.0oz glasses of Ducolax mixed in Crystal Light at 15 minute intervals. I suggest making it all up an hour ahead of time and put all eight glasses in the fridge. That way it is (a) cold, so you can’t taste it as much, and (b), it is all measured out for you.
Also, get lots of reading material. If you think four magazines is enough, get six. And schedule the procedure as early during the day as you can.
I also recommend saying you’d come back in ten years like they recommend but since they didn’t even send flowers you’re going to go with a different doctor.
Us girls are supposed to get paps every year. I haven’t gone in a few. It’s really psychologically gross. Just be glad a colonoscopy only comes once in a blue moon.
My dad died from colon cancer. I had a colonoscopy a few years ago. About due for another. The procedure is no big deal. They knock you out and next thing you know you are being woken up in a bed in another room.
I understand why men would be against breast reductions. However, women with overly large breast start to have painful upper back problems, sometimes as early as their late twenties. So unless you’re willing to walk around with their breasts in your hands all day …Oh, never mind.
Big V
LOL My sister was called “jugs” in high school, and wears a special bra. Her shoulders and back kill her, but she doesn’t have insurance to cover a reduction. I use to be jealous, but not anymore. I’ll take my apples over her cantalopes any day.
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Comment by ahansen
2011-07-14 15:42:48
I’m totally with V on this one. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, dj.
Overly large breasts on tiny women can cause postural deformation, nerve damage, excruciating neck and back pain, indentations in the clavicles from bra straps, and myriad psychological issues– not the least of which is homicidal anger towards shallow-minded males with unresolved mommy complexes.
Furthermore, insurance DOESN’T pay for this operation in the vast majority of cases. It’s expensive, technically complicated, leaves significant scarring, and entails nearly a year of unpleasant recovery.
Try carrying a couple of cantaloupes around in your scrotum all day every day, and see how YOU like it.
(rant off)
Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-14 18:21:51
ahansen
My Mother’s HMO did her breast reduction for a $100 co-pay. It was a while ago, granted.
Comment by ahansen
2011-07-14 19:19:45
I had one in ‘86 and another in ‘06. Both cost in the low five figures plus high four figure facility and nursing expenses. What they don’t tell you is that they grow back….
Suffice it to say that I am thoroughly perplexed by women who voluntarily elect to implant silastic sacks into their healthy chest cavities. AND PAY GOOD MONEY TO DO SO! Sheesh.
Lucky Mum! Must have had a civil service insurance policy….?
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-15 07:08:49
NOT a way to attract a man……. is it?
If it was emergency surgery well that’s different, but it isn’t.
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It’s expensive, technically complicated, leaves significant scarring, and entails nearly a year of unpleasant recovery.
Ol’Bubba
Just had my “back door” checked the 4th qtr of 2010. Well worth the prep, but man, was the prep God awful. I was having pains and the doctor wanted to rule out the worst possible scenario.
Prep-Awful
Embarr-ass-ing
Lost 5 lbs from fasting for 3 days - hey, it was a window of opportunity (still off)
Found a small polyp- cut it out
Checked out healthy and no more guessing game. It’s one of those cancers that slow growly with few symptoms.
(I’m a lady, and found the experience easier than my fears.)
I turned out to be allergic to gluten, peanuts, and the protein in milk. Changed my diet, fixed my problem.
Get it done. It isn’t just a slogan it might save your life. It’s true. If you have insurance, consider youfself lucky, and do it. We just dropped our insurance due to the escalating premium cost. Glad I did it.
Ol’Bubba
words of wisdom, trust me: vaseline during the prep. Research preps and make the decision that will work best for you. I used a different prep than doc wanted. Same result without throwing up.
I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
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Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-14 10:44:38
Ol’Bubba
LOL.
Montana
I’m jealous. I’ve been told other parts of my body were “perky” but never told my bowel was beautiful. Do plastic surgeons have a procedure for that?
“Do any of you have thoughts about the value of a colonoscopy?”
I had a colonoscopy at fifty, and they found and removed a couple small polyps that were later identified as benign. Everything looked good according to the doctors. FWIW, I’m big on dietary fiber, and I also down a 20oz tumbler of water with two heaping spoonfuls of Metamucil nightly; exercise daily too.
The issue isn’t so much whether to do it as where to get it done. There are places that do it well, but it should take some time for them to carefully look at everything if they do it right.
Ask around. If someone says it took less than 5 minutes, don’t go where they went.
Think of it like a house inspection. If they just do a drive by to make sure the structure is there with a roof more or less intact, they could have missed a lot that might be wrong. If it takes a while and the inspector has some experience, you are more likely to get the information you need.
The procedure was suggested by the general surgeon who did my hernia repair. They do the colonoscopies on an outpatient basis in a facility that’s in a hospital complex.
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Comment by polly
2011-07-14 10:50:01
Location less important than whether the docs who do them have been told they have x number of minutes per patient (where x is a number lower than a responsible doc would want to do a good job) and no more than x.
If you had access to the information, I’d pick the place that has the lowest profit margins in the area (assuming that the margins aren’t just because they are getting the patients with the lowest reimbursement rates).
An “old school” doc can also be of help. I had a young doc who was recommending all sorts of unhelpful stuff for some foot pain. Found an old school guy who recommended some minor stretching. The stretching is working. The new guy never even mentioned it. I don’t think he even noticed the tightness.
Comment by polly
2011-07-14 11:11:40
There is an analysis in the Washington Post today that implies (or maybe infers) that it wouldn’t be planned out in the ways I have been describing. They seem to think it would be a day by day thing. Day 1 $a are coming in and $6a dollars need to go out, so which of the $6a worth of bills get paid and which don’t. Same thing on a day by day basis until the issue is resolved.
I have no idea why they are assuming that no comprehensive plan will be implemented.
Comment by polly
2011-07-14 11:26:35
Sorry about the last one - posted in the wrong place.
“The issue isn’t so much whether to do it as where to get it done. There are places that do it well, but it should take some time for them to carefully look at everything if they do it right.”
I drove over to Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle, WA. I rented a hotel room next door to do the MoviPrep “clean-out”, and I relied on a couple of 2-liter bottles of 7UP to help start the fasting process; water only during the last 8-hours. To my surprise there were at least fifty or more people there for the same procedure. It was a real production line setting, but they spent about fifteen minutes fishing around; the fentanyl IV made the procedure comfortable, no pain. A nurse wheeled me back to my hotel room, and I was back on my feet four hours later.
As far as I’m concerned, they’re a big, expensive racket. This sentiment was confirmed the last time the President of the United States had a physical. That was last year, and guess what? He had a virtual colonoscopy.
I’ll betcha that the “virtual” costs a lot less than the “dope you silly and plumb you internally” version.
Virtual colonoscopies are semi-worthless. Oh, it would pick up a big ole honkin’ tumor, but a little pre-cancerous one? Nah.
The people who really need to be conscientious about having their bowels scoped are the ones with a family history of colon cancer. We’re talking parents, grandparents and siblings.
I’m a couple of years overdue for my fourth exam. I started early due to family history. The prep last time was so nasty that I’ve been procrastinating. Maybe this conversation thread will prompt me to make that phone call and set it up.
I’m thinking of a technology that’s suggested by the book (and movie) Fantastic Voyage. Why not make the colonoscope so small that it could be swallowed? That way, you’d avoid the plumbing discomfort. Not to mention the expense.
I had one. Came down with Diverticulosis, scheduled one and got it over with. The prep really was the worst part, as that solution is seriously the nastiest thing Ive ever drank.
The actual procedure was a non-event. They found three polyps, none cancerous but two with the potential to be cancerous. Doc said to come back in three years to get another one, and I will.
My advice would be to get it done and go from there, but Im not a doctor - just another jackass using the interweb.
No big deal. Excellent drugs. If you’re 50, haven’t had one, have insurance, do it. If you don’t have insurance, do it anyway. It’s a lot cheaper than developing colon cancer.
Today is the big Capitol Hill hearing on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) will chair it. Warren will be in the hot seat for an entire day. She’s a very smart leader. I certainly hope she can keep the horde of ankle-biters at bay, and get the CFPB off the ground with full powers.
Warren’s primary focus with the CFPB is to eliminate the obfuscation in consumer contracts in the financial sector. So that consumers can know both the PRICE and the RISK of the product they’re purchasing.
It seems hard to argue with. However, there is big money in financial obfuscation. And those making money off of it have lots of hired guns. There should be fireworks today.
Apparently there were fireworks before the hearing, but she held her own. McHenry, the FIRE sector tool, also piped up, but managed to show a modicum of respect to Warren this time:
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Higher food prices are here to stay, General Mills Inc.’s GIS -0.46% Chief Executive Ken Powell said Wednesday, adding that it was unlikely that food prices will slip into a deflationary cycle as they did last year.
“It would be highly unlikely that we’ll see price declines,” Powell said during a meeting with investors. “The long-term trends are inflationary, not deflationary. You’re going to see pricing in a significant way.”
General Mills will rely entirely on higher prices to increase its sales for fiscal 2012, as overall sales volume is expected to fall. Last month, the company issued its outlook, which sees revenue rising in the mid-single digits.
General Mills warned that rising costs for ingredients and fuel will hurt earnings for the fiscal year, with the pain most acute in the current quarter. The company is raising prices to offset some of those higher costs, and is also counting on new products to continue to keep customers interested.
He’s just saying that to convince people not to sell out of their General Mills shares. First he says that last year was food deflation. Then he says that all signs are inflationary for this year. What changed from last year to this year? Looming defaults? That’s not inflationary.
People in this country do not HAVE to buy processed foods. They’ve been doing it for years because it’s so cheap. If it gets expensive, then they will suddenly gain the superhuman ability to cook food from scratch.
I understand what you are saying, but raw ingredients, at least in my neck of the woods, are also up, especially fruits and veggies. What used to cost $1/lb now can cost as much as $2 (I only buy whatever is on sale).
I am thinking of pulling the old bread machine out of the basement. It was a gift a long time ago and at first it was fun, until the novelty wore off. Maybe its time to have some fun again.
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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-14 11:07:33
I bought an avocado for a salad the other day…$2 for some piddly excuse of an avocado. Shocking.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-14 14:19:42
I only buy avocados when they’re on sale. The usual price is 1.50 - 2.
The truth is that they don’t want to include food in the CPI regardless of the volatility argument.
If they were truly solely afraid of the volatility of energy and food, they would use a moving average as opposed to a point in time to go into the basket of goods.
A 2-year moving average? 4-year moving average?
I’m sure there are some math professors that could determine what the length of the moving average would need to be in order to reduce the volatility of the measure to the typical volatility of other pieces of the basket of goods….before lunch.
People have to eat. I’ve lived in a high inflation society my friend. Prices didn’t fall simply because people consumed less. In fact, they kept going up.
I know the textbooks say that less demand leads to lower prices, but I saw with my own eyes that it didn’t always work that way. People did without and prices kept rising.
Yeah, but you said yourself that wages were rising too. That isn’t happening here and it won’t because of all those noncitizen workers.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-14 11:49:36
But wages weren’t keeping pace with inflation, not even close. The only reason the masses didn’t starve were gov’t subsidies for beans and tortillas. It’s also why it only costs 20 US cents to ride the very modern subway.
Prices at “el super” were another story. They would literally rise between stock up trips to the store.
I left Mexico in 1982. My family’s standard of living was clobbered big time as I was leaving. My wife and I visited in 87, and it wasn’t pretty. And not just my family. The dollar/peso exchange rate at the time was horrific (for Mexicans). Our dollar buying power was fantastic.
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 16:30:44
“But wages weren’t keeping pace with inflation, not even close.”
“Lol. There will be a LOT of pain, as in hand-on-a-hot-stove type of pain”.
The level of “pain” depends on a persons situation. For those that spent like there was no tomorrow and saved nothing. Then yes it will hurt like a SOB. Then there are those that have watched this storm brewing for years and battened down their hatches, it will be far less painful them.
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Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-14 08:07:26
wmbz
While I generally agree, I see the “needs” being inflationary, and the “wants” being deflationary. That’s what scares me. The USD will continue to become worthless, and our standard of living will continue to tank.
We have no debt, have cash to pay for a home, and a little socked away, but I am very concerned about this controlled collapse finally collapsing. I don’t suffer from catastrophic expectations. My eyes are wide open.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-14 09:00:19
The USD will continue to become worthless, and our standard of living will continue to tank.
It won’t matter much how prudent and living within your means you were. I saw first hand how “la crisis” clobbered the Mexican middle class. People were scrambling to survive. And boy did the standard of living collapse for the middle class. That was when my brother finally decided to get the hell out of dodge. His employer (a large mining company) transferred him to a small US brach office. The pay sucked by US standards but he felt as if he had died and gone to heaven. He lived at home with my mom (the house was paid for) and he couldn’t afford a car on his Mexican white collar salary.
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-14 11:22:32
“The level of “pain” depends on a persons situation. For those that spent like there was no tomorrow and saved nothing. Then yes it will hurt like a SOB. Then there are those that have watched this storm brewing for years and battened down their hatches, it will be far less painful them.”
I suspect the pain will be felt first by the less prudent. But the prudent won’t be immune. Many prudent, middle class folks will find themselves impoverished. Anyone who is dependent on a steady income is at risk. A few years of unemployment will do it for most people. Those who will do the best will have a paid off house with a little land in a low tax, stable area with a good climate. And even some of those folks will lose everything. Pensions, savings, Social Security, and investments can be quickly depleted, inflated away, or defaulted on.
Some of the wealthy will also make wrong moves and find themselves broke. These are the folks most likely to jump off buildings.
This reminds me of the economic crisis Mexico went throughin the 80’s.
First they cranked up the printing presses in the 70’s and inflation started to heat up. This happened in part because the wealthy didn’t want to pay taxes and PEMEX could only provide so much revenue to the Mexican Fed Gov. While inflation was high, middle class wages kept pace with inflation, and the minimum wage was constantly increased for the poor and food subsidies for basics like tortillas and beans kept those prices down.
Then came the oil bust and PEMEX’s exports tumbled and hard currency revenue collapsed (early 80’s). This was when the poop really hit the fan and Mexico was forced into taking severe austerity measures. By the time inflation was tamed the peso went from 12.5 to a dollar to about 10,000 pesos to a dollar. The crisis was one of the reasons for the beginning of the “Mexodus” to the USA.
“Is gold money?” Rep. Ron Paul put the question to Fed Chief Ben Bernanke on Wednesday. .
“No. It’s a precious metal,” responded Bernanke - somewhat irritated.
After Paul interrupted him to mention the long history of gold being used as money, Bernanke said ”It’s an asset. Would you say Treasury bills are money? I don’t think they’re money, either, but they’re a financial asset.”
Bernanke is correct to say Treasury bills are not money. They are a record of debt…paper promises. The holder of these IOUs does, indeed, consider them financial assets.
But Bernanke just wasn’t thinking clearly when he lumped Treasury bills and gold together. While the bill is evidence of debt the physical gold is not. It is a thing of value - not a promise by anyone, nor a debt of any kind. It has been a respected medium of exchange and measure of value for millennia. Also, it meets Webster’s definition of money; “. . .gold, silver, or other metal in pieces of convenient form stamped by public authority and issued as a medium of exchange and measure of value.”
Webster’s unabridged dictionary also defines money as; “Any circulating medium of exchange, including coins, paper money, and demand deposits.”
The U.S. Mint makes gold and silver coins. They aren’t used in daily commerce because the intrinsic value of the coins far exceeds the nominal value engraved on them.
“Money” can be anything people use as media of exchange. Everything from cowry shells to cigarettes have served as money through the ages. Gold and silver coin have had the best track record over the longest period of time. So say the historians who’ve looked into the record..
Dr. Bernanke’s answer to Rep. Ron Paul should have been, “Yes - gold is commodity money.”
Until the 20th century it was generally understood that money was something of actual value. . .that is, gold and silver coin. Paper currency of various types was widely circulated with the promise of redemption in actual money. Eventually the paper notes took on the character of money, itself.
It must be pretty annoying for Bernanke to have to sit for this nonsense. Yes, gold is “money”, in the same sense that cattle, bananas, scrap iron, ocean liners, and dirt are money.
“It must be pretty annoying for Bernanke to have to sit for this nonsense”.
“Nonsense”, that’s funny! That is surely the common thought among the majority. It’s all nonsense, now let Mr. Bernake get down to the serious business of printing and bailing!
Funny how the banksters are glad to seize “cattle, bananas, scrap iron, ocean liners, and dirt” when we can’t pay them back their fiats. Why don’t we make our own fiats to pay them back?
But Bernanke just wasn’t thinking clearly when he lumped Treasury bills and gold together. While the bill is evidence of debt the physical gold is not. It is a thing of value - not a promise by anyone, nor a debt of any kind.
Gold is an actual good.
Debt products are virtual products - legal and/or logical constructs. In this case a promise to pay.
People ultimately seek to obtain cash/currency for virtual products.
But the value of gold as a “good” is not anywhere close to its market value. It’s only money if people think of it as money. Same thing with every other form of currency (such as houses, back in the day).
The gold cult faith inspires a plethora of meaningless pronouncements.
But for the record, you can’t eat gold, you can’t live in gold, you can’t drive in gold, and if there is some useful purpose which gold serves aside from providing a store of value (which is what assets do), please enlighten me.
If you don’t enjoy staring at shiny yellow metal, or thinking how rich owning it is going to make you, it seems that gold does not meet the definition of an economic good.
Definition of ECONOMIC GOOD
: a commodity or service that is useful to man but that must be paid for
I was just trying to separate the separate the concept of virtual products (legal/logical constructs) from actual physical things. I may have used the term “good” incorrectly.
I personally am not a gold cultist. It’s probably worth having some if the S really HTFs. But at that point, it would also be equally or more important to have a defensible domicile and ammunition. Because likely the basic necessities would be more in demand than gold.
In a hyperinflationary environment? I would think perhaps the currency of another country would likely hold sway, as the value in terms of the basic necessities would be more easily identified in a foreign currency rather than gold.
There’s a high demand for it, but IMHO, it also has some semblance to a tulip bulb.
“The gold standard is, in a phrase, a system of gold price fixing by the government. It favored creditors who benefit when the unit of debt repayment gets stronger. This was replaced by a system of government bond price fixing, which favors creditors if the central bank succeeds at keeping the unit of debt repayment strong and adds the special favor of interest income on reserves. History will teach us again which system works better for the American people.” - eric janszen - itulip.com
perhaps this is why bernanke sees gold and treasuries as the same thing.
The Swiss franc has historically been considered a safe-haven currency with virtually zero inflation and a legal requirement that a minimum of 40% be backed by gold reserves.[9] However, this link to gold, which dates from the 1920s, was terminated on 1 May 2000 following a referendum.[10] By March 2005, following a gold selling program, the Swiss National Bank held 1,290 tonnes of gold in reserves which equated to 20% of its assets wiki
Weekly Claims Finally Show Decline in Weak Jobs Market
14 Jul 2011 By: AP
The Labor Department says that weekly applications dropped 22,000 to a seasonally adjusted 405,000, the lowest level in almost three months.
The government says the total was increased by 11,500 state workers from Minnesota, who have filed applications because of that state’s government shutdown.
Even with last week’s decline, applications have now topped 400,000 for 14 weeks, evidence that the job market has weakened since earlier this year.
Applications had fallen in February to 375,000, a level that signals healthy job growth. They stayed below 400,000 for two months, then surged to an eight-month high of 478,000 in April and have declined slowly since then.
President Obama has failed to live up to the expectations he created in the Arab world, according to a new poll released by Zogby International and the Arab American Institute Foundation. The poll also noted that most Arab countries view the U.S. less favorably today than they did during the last year of the Bush administration.
When President Bush left office, 9 percent of Egyptians had a favorable attitude towards the United States. After Barack Obama was elected, that number jumped to 30 percent. But today, only 5 percent of Egyptians surveyed said they have a favorable opinion of the United States and its president. Similar figures in Morocco, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates illustrate that the initial optimism in the region has been eclipsed by a widespread sense of disappointment.
“President Obama did not create the problems, but he created the expectation that the problems would be solved,” said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.
“He sent a number of signals early on that U.S. policy would change: in his inauguration speech, in his al-Arabiya interview, and in his appointment of [former Senate Majority Leader] George Mitchell as special envoy,” said Zogby. “By the time of his speech in Cairo, the favorable ratings of the U.S. were at their highest ever.”
But figures from six Arab nations tell the same story: People in the Arab world are frustrated by the lack of follow-up. “You get credit for trying after 100 days, but after two years you don’t get credit for trying; you get credit for producing, and the production isn’t there,” Zogby said.
“I’m not faulting the president. He didn’t get a magic wand when he took office,” Zogby said. “Instead, he got a shovel to get out of a deep hole. Every one of the issues that he’s inherited has been more difficult than he or anyone else expected.”
Aaron David Miller, a public policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center, said that the results reflect a fundamental “clash of interests” between the United States and countries in the region, calling the results “a very old story, which Zogby has simply brought up to date.”
“The fact is that there is a huge disconnect between what we believe is the right approach in the region and what many of the people who live there believe is the right approach,” Miller said.
“The bottom line is that Arabs expect a fundamental change in policy, but that change will not be forthcoming. And therefore the story of the United States in this region is going to continue to be difficult, to say the least.”
Every once in a while I like to float a far-out scenario. Has anyone been following Leon Panetta? If TSHTF, there will be no 2012 election.
However, ladeez and gennelmen, I give you the first Godfather of the US, Leon Panetta!
He’s one tough SOB. Assuming that OBL really was still alive over in Pockeestahn, Leon Panetta is the reason why he was nailed. Believe it. He gave the order. Over Obama/Valerie Jarrett’s indecision.
I’m rusty on foreign affairs these days. But in the past, anytime America tried to do something, protestors marched around with signs that say “death to America.” And now that Obama is not doing all that much, they are still complaining.
So, what policy do the Egyptians want from Obama? Besides more pallets of money and/or American guns and/or American support for their tribal leader du jour.
Hmmmm, you seem to very personally attached to hope that our President will fail. It’s not so much that he is failing to achieve the best possible scenario given the circumstances, it’s just that he is failing to achieve the impossible hopes and dreams of a lot of really unrealistic people. Who on Earth could do that?
I agree, but he himself has hardly been realistic about his own limitations. But, I’d probably be the same way if I was getting peace prizes while bombing the crap out of nations where we have no business being.
I don’t want him to fail, but he’s already gone down and doesn’t even know it. His turning point was the day they got OBL (assuming it was, in fact, OBL, but let’s assume it was) He belayed the order to go in. Panetta countermanded that order, pulled him off the golf course into the situation room and told him it was a done deal. Obama was bypassed. And from that point on, unless he takes his power back, he’s toast. But, instead, Panetta goes from head of CIA (an interim post, really) to head of DOD.
Obama is now nothing more than a puppet dangling on strings and I think the general public knows it. His nasty little dig about how he “can’t guarantee that Social Security checks will go out” if the debt ceiling isn’t raised showed him for a complete and utter ass.
Who the hell borrows more money when they can’t pay what’s already owed? A forckin’ iddjit, that’s who. So the debt ceiling gets raised and then what? Just more “austerity” when the inevitable default arrives. For the benefit of central banks who will take hard assets in exchange for their thin-air bogus funny money.
Who the hell borrows more money when they can’t pay what’s already owed?
Apparently most of the industrialized world.
The more I think about this the more depressed I get (call pfizer!). Seeing the two trains barrelling down the tracks at each other, even if the eventual crash is years away, is unsettling. The aftermath will be horrific and possibly result in global wars as new despots wil rise to address the economic calamity.
My father-in-law is a German national who served in WW2. When I asked him why Germany loved Hitler he said it was because he cleaned up the Weimar mess and got everyone back to work and prosperity soon followed. He did admit that Germans fell for the “master race” crap, but that in the early days conquering the world was the last thing they thought about.
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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-07-14 11:15:23
What is the way out of debt?
Create inflation, and try like hell to obfuscate the true amount of inflation.
Let’s hope the the Frankinflation monster is a friendly overlord that won’t survive long…
That’s quite the tin foil ball you got there. How did you manage to get into Obama’s and Panetta’s minds?
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Comment by palmetto
2011-07-14 09:12:32
I didn’t get into their minds, there was one of those “insider” reports that came out shortly after the OBL taradiddle. A blow by blow about how the upper echelon government officials would have Obama’s agreement and then he would go back and talk to Valerie Jarrett who didn’t want him to do it, so he’d belay, then they’d talk him into it again and he’d give the order, then talk to Valerie Jarrett again and belay.
Panetta got tired of it and said fockit, we’re going in. Apparently he gave the final order after Obama belayed and went off for a round of golf which was so rudely interrupted when they brought him back to see the operation already in progress. Hence, the strange look on Obama’s face in the situation room photo.
You’re right, and if anything it’s a poor reflection on the electorate. I’m already shaking to see what the voters glom onto the next time they change teams.
The electorate thinks they’re in the stands, when in reality they’re the football.
Big Pharma and the psychiatric profession teaming up to push anti-psychotic medications on the citizenry. On the other hand we do seem to have an overage of crazy people.
Looks like the US and NATO are throwing in the towel on the Libya war. Not sure what’s worse: starting this war in the first place or leaving a vengeful Gadaffi in power.
On June 30, President Nicolas Sarkozy ordered weapons to be parachuted to the tribal fighters in western Libya, contrary to UN and NATO decisions. But the Berbers preferred to use the French guns for plundering towns and villages instead of fighting government forces.
How about revolutionaries who don’t seem to be terribly interested in actually revolting?
I guess with the NATO powers suddenly realizing that they are flat broke they have no other choice. Like a broke guy kicking the tires at the local car dealer, who then gets back into his clunker and drives away.
Someone here recently said a buyer had to walk from a deal because something with the closing was going to cost more than they thought and they were buying on fumes. I guess we started a war on fumes. Doesn’t seem like this was thought out very well.
“debkafile’s military sources reported that NATO was short of warplanes for enforcing the no- fly zone over Libyan air space approved by the UN Security Council, its arsenals of smart bombs and missiles were depleted and its stocks of munitions and replacement parts almost down to zero.
This has now been confirmed by the British defense secretary, who added that British and European military industries lack the capacity for supporting a war effort that goes beyond a few weeks.”
Debka? What next, the WorldNetDaily? (oh wait, they’re partners aren’t they?)
wikipedia
Wired.com’s Noah Shachtman wrote in 2001 that the site [Debka] “clearly reports with a point of view; the site is unabashedly in the hawkish camp of Israeli politics,” adding that Debka had partnered with the right-wing news site WorldNetDaily for a weekly subscription product.[3] Yediot Achronot investigative reporter Ronen Bergman states that the site relies on information from sources with an agenda, such as neo-conservative elements of the US Republican Party, “whose worldview is that the situation is bad and is only going to get worse,” and that Israeli intelligence officials do not consider even 10 percent of the site’s content to be reliable.[1] Cornell Law professor Michael C. Dorf calls Debka his “favorite alarmist Israeli website trading in rumors.”[4]
Bernanke’s track record of failure is absolutely stunning. Before discussing some of his most recent comments, let’s review some of the pearls of wisdom that Bernanke has shared with us in recent years….
2005: “House prices have risen by nearly 25 percent over the past two years. Although speculative activity has increased in some areas, at a national level these price increases largely reflect strong economic fundamentals.”
2005: “We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though.”
2006: “Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.”
2007: “At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”
2007: “It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.”
2008: “The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”
Much of what he says seems designed to lean against a collectively rational interpretation of fundamentals which could result in all-out economic collapse.
Whether he himself believes what he says is another question…
Seriously, I doubt that he really believed half of what he said, since half of his job is simply making sure that people don’t collectively freak out over economic events/circumstances.
Borders Group Inc. stood on the brink of liquidation after a recent offer for the bookstore chain from a private-equity investor fell apart late Wednesday.
Borders, which employs nearly 11,000 people, designated a group of liquidators as the opening bidders in a looming bankruptcy-court auction amid difficulties getting publishers to relax terms under which they ship merchandise to the U.S.’s second-largest bookstore chain, said people familiar with the matter.
The development raises the prospect that Borders will soon close all its remaining 399 stores and go out of business. No other suitors have so far emerged for Borders ahead of a Sunday bidding deadline.
Borders’s deal with the investor, Jahm Najafi, unraveled Wednesday after publishers and landlords owed money from the company complained that his bid would allow him to liquidate the bookstore chain after buying the business.
The first Borders opened in Ann Arbor when I was a student at UofM. There had never been anything like it.
The one within walking distance of my house now sits empty. I miss it. I’ll be missing it for a long time to come, especially in the bleak midwinter on Sunday afternoons. Sigh.
The first Borders opened in Ann Arbor when I was a student at UofM. There had never been anything like it.
Agreed!
It was an absolutely fabulous place to take a study break. It was full of non-textbooks that were actually fun to read. Even better, there was lovely classical music playing the background, and oh, I could have stayed there all day.
I miss that place. Even though I didn’t buy much there, my parents sure made up the difference when they came to town.
A Blockbuster store on my route must have closed just last night, becuase the letters have been ripped off the the facade this morning - but just Tuesday morning I saw a customer drop his video into the drop slot.
It leaves a gaping hole in its strip mall. I wonder what will fill it? A methadone clinic maybe? Nah, there’s already one across the street and another a few blcoks down.
I haven’t set foot in a video rental place in years. Part of the problem is that there’s nothing worth watching. The recall the last time I was in there and I perused the “newer releases” section. I amount of dreck that is produced is astounding. For every “King’s Speech” there’s 50 “Porky’s” type movies.
That’s why I’m drawn to Anime and some Sci-Fi, probably the only two “honest” genres still out there. You’re familiar with both, so you understand.
BTW, forgot to mention that a few months back we went to the big Anime convention here. It was a blast, the genre seems more popular than ever - it warmed my heart to see so many having so much fun. Happy stuff for tough times.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-14 09:20:16
That’s why I’m drawn to Anime and some Sci-Fi
You too? I think Cowboy Bebop is better than most emmy winning shows.
Then there’s stuff like Sekirei. The one thing I learned from that show is that the Japanese have some serious “boob envy” towards the west.
Comment by Doghouse Riley
2011-07-14 11:00:51
How much real “sci-fi” is still being published?
I go to the SF shelves in my bookstores and library and once I filter out all the wizards, barbarian swordsmen, dragons, vampires, zombies, vampire/zombie/wizard crossovers, $30 comic books… oops “graphic novels”, TV spinoffs, comic book spinoffs, and movie spinoffs, there ain’t much left over.
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-14 13:45:12
Is there any decent new Science Fiction coming out now? I hope there is and I’ve just missed it. I like some of Harry Turtledove’s book but not all.There is only so much alternate history I can take at a time.
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-14 17:56:51
There has been a lot of good new sci fi published in the last 10 years.
The list is so long I can’t remember the names.
Here’s just a handful:
Allen Steele
Nancy Kress
Alastaire Reynolds
David Weber
Elizabeth Moon
Each have more than 5 books apiece in the last ten years. each cover a totally different aspect of sci fi. Hard sci fi. The old school kind.
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-14 19:04:16
Ecofeco—-Thanks for the recommendations. i like Weber pretty well but Didn’t care for what I read by Elizabeth Moon. I’ll give her another try though. I may have just gotten the one w
thing she wrote that I wouldn’t like. I’ve never heard of the first three, but I will look for them.
I admit i was floored yesterday when all the HBB’ers chimed to comment on how many movies they watched each month, and read how many millions of people watched dozens of videos both streaming and DVD. And they have time to watch TV shows too…
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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-14 13:37:03
You can watch movies or you can live your life. I prefer the latter.
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-14 13:48:42
Ezcept for Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Sherlock, we mainly use video as background. Our oldest daugher is the big movie fan in the family. I prefer to reas when I can find something I like.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-14 14:23:34
I can’t warm up to the new Doctor. I don’t know what it is, but I just don’t like him,
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-14 19:22:15
I find Matt Smith to be a little young. But I loved the episode with Van Gogh, possibly because I really like his work. Of the 4 of the family currently here, we are split down the middle. My son and I prefer the old school doctors, especially Tom Baker. My husband and oldest daughter prefer the new run. For my husband, I think it’s because he’s the earlier work so often. For daughter, I think it’s partly because she really likes the work of a couple of the writers. The other two girls aren’t big fans of the Doctor but prefer other genres that we also like.
On a related. oldest daughter and sons visited the 2nd daughter and her husband a few weeks ago. They all went to see the latest XMen movie. Coming out the husband made some comment about Sebastain Shaw being created for the movie. Second daughter said, “Don’t talk about things you don’t know, dear.” Obviously while extremely smart he is not the XMen fan she is. In fact when she moved out, she took a lot of our XMen comic books with her. That’s fine with us. We’ve given the comic books the kids want to them anyway. My husband has a few favorites that he won’t part with yet. As do I. Mine are almost anything by Stever Ditko, the Longbow series of the ’08’s with Green Aroow and Black Canary, and the first run of Mage. Secondary would be Rip Hunter Time Master and Judge Dredd.
In western U.S., new hires fall 10 percent in May 2011, layoffs rise
Denver Economy Examiner
The number of new hires in the U.S. West, which includes Colorado, fell 10 percent, year-over-year from May 2010 to May 2011, as layoffs increased 17 percent during the same period.
According to the latest Job Openings and Labor Turnover report, released Tuesday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the West region’s labor markets performed more poorly than the U.S. overall. The number of new hires in the U.S. fell 4.5 percent from May 2010 to May 2011. During the same period, layoffs fell 1.3 percent for the U.S. During the same period.
The magnitude of the year-over-year declines in new hires was impacted at least partially by the hiring of Census workers during Springs 2010.
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
His stance at that time was a luxury made possible by the masking effect of more “prosperous” times.
Now watch the little technocrats scramble as their wonderous machine sputters. Adding oil here, adding oil there, adding oil where ever the owner’s manual (their resident academia) tells them to add it.
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.”
Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs
Blocking up the scenery, breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign
“Increasing America’s debt weakens us dome$tically and internationally…Instead, Washington Cheney-$hrub is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the back$ of our children and grandchildren”
Investing / Forbes / Jul. 12 2011
A Country in Denial About Taxes
“Back in the olden days, we acknowledged that wars cost money and didn’t think that our children should pay the entire cost, with interest. (Imagine that!) There were huge tax increases to finance World War II and the Korean War, and fairly significant ones to pay for Vietnam.”
Is Germany going to cave in on its insistence that private investors take some of the hit from the Greek financial debacle? Did President Obama calm down after walking out of the latest debt ceiling meeting?
As for the Obama walkout….this evens the score, doesn’t it. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor walked out of a meeting. Now, a frustrated president has done it. What next? Apparently the key players will be called to a weekend meeting at Camp David. If a deal isn’t struck before July 22 a substance will hit the fan that will be extremely untidy.
The hardest thing of all is to raise the debt ceiling in a way both sides can claim victory “for the American people.”
As for the Obama walkout….this evens the score, doesn’t it. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor walked out of a meeting. Now, a frustrated president has done it. What next?
A walkout by all of those American workers who’ve seen their incomes go flat or decline in recent years?
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:34 a.m. Thursday, May 12, 2011
The length of time from initial court filing to bank repossession in Florida - 619 days - is significantly higher than the national average of 400, according to a foreclosure report released today by Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac. The national average in 2007 was 151 days.
Rent free, as free as the wind blows
As free as the grass grows
Default and follow your heart
Live free and beauty surrounds you
The world still astounds you
Two years and counting so far
Stay free, don`t care if you`re laid off
Stupidity paid off
Because you bought in 05
Don`t pay, and life is worth living
But only worth living
’cause you’re rent free
Housing “hasn’t bottomed out as quickly as we expected,” President Barack Obama said at a White House town hall last week. Mr. Obama said housing remained the “most stubborn” problem facing the country and conceded that a raft of federal mortgage-aid programs were “not enough, and so we’re going back to the drawing board.”
Mr. Obama said housing remained the “most stubborn” problem facing the country and conceded that a raft of federal mortgage-aid programs were “not enough, and so we’re going back to the drawing board.”
Oh they’ll keep going back to the drawing board, meanwhile the bus heads for the wall.
$arah the “TrueBarracuda™”
$arah the “TrueMaverick™”
$arah the “TrueRogue™”
$arah the “TruePurity™”
$arah the “TruePathtoProsperity™”
ChaChing$!…ChaChing$!…ChaChing$!
“Money for the nothin’ and her word$ for fee$!”
That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it Money for nothin’ and her word$ for fee$
Now that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Lemme tell ya, guys $he ain’t dumb
Maybe get a blister on her little lip
Maybe get a blister on her little tongue
Sarah Palin isn’t known for her political savvy or wisdom. She is known for talking out of her *** about anything she does NOT know about. She cares about making money and getting attention. She will say anything she thinks will make her money and keep her in the public eye. Therefore, she will repeat any Fox News talking points or evangelical talking points like a parrot on crack.
She has other (literate) people who write her facebook page posts for her.
She does not have a mind, ethics or conscience of her own. Who cares what she “thinks”?
Which guy would that be? Reagan? Both Bushes? Brian Williams? That guy in the commercial who reads off the side effects of *ahem* the drug you take in those bathtubs on the beach?
Isn’t that it’s intended use? Although I’m pretty sure writing words on your hand and then reading from it is not.
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-07-14 17:57:08
I’m going to take a class in storytelling this fall. Sometime after that, I’m going to learn how to speak in a broadcast setting by taking my beloved KXCI community radio station’s deejay course.
If things go well on the Slim as a Public Speaker front, I too will have to learn how to use a teleprompter. One of the books in my personal library, Lillian Brown’s Your Public Best, has a good intro to this topic.
Will let everyone know how this goes. I’ll be performing in a storytelling evening in September. Am writing the script for that now. No prompters allowed. I need to memorize it and rehearse my act.
Are you talking about Sarah Palin, the moose disguised as a joke of a vice-presidential candidate? Seriously, the woman is not really a candidate Charlie.
End of the debt cycle
A similar picture in EURO-land and the US. For many decades the amount of money has been growing exponentially. All of this money demands interest which has to be satisfied in large part from productive labor. Productive labor is in a large part dependent on natural resources, food and energy, all of which are finte on a finite planet. These resources take larger and larger effort to extract as you can see in the ever rising price of various commodities.
It is an absolut mathematical certainty that exponential growth can not continue in a finite world/universe. The exact timing of the collapse is difficult to predict since various money printing and accounting tricks can hide the obvious for quite some time. Looking at all the evidence I can see today we’re are running out of accounting tricks within the not too distant future. If history is any guide, typically what follows is a time of great uncertainty and great conflict.
Personally I had the benefit to talk to some of my older realtives when they were still alive in the 1970s in Germany. Born around 1900 they lived through those “uncertain times”. One thing I gathered was, that not all was good in the good ole days.
“The exact timing of the collapse is difficult to predict since various money printing and accounting tricks can hide the obvious for quite some time.”
Yes, but hiding paper losses is one thing, hiding idle populations (especially youthful ones) is quite another. And the U.S. is far from the only country with that problem.
You have to buy the idle population off with various welfare programs. That keeps them quiet. Once you run out of cash to keep those programs in place better call up the national guard and/or secret police. I wonder who will bomb our troops once they are used to “control” out own population? Maybe the Chinese?
/sarcasm off
I do not believe that exponential growth is the cornerstone of capitalism. It is not necessary for capitalism to work, although it is necessary for certain ponzi schemes to function.
the housing bubble was just a symtom of the debt super cycle
I wonder if growth slows it will be harder to make money off the labor of US workers, like charging interest or gouging on commodity prices?
This will be bad news for banks . They will lend to faster growing economies exporting inflation and making money like they used to here in the US, off young labor in third world countries
As the Banks move on the medical companies will move in to the US and take whats left of the older dying US workers.
Anybody noticed? Obama is getting some gray hair. I didn’t notice those when he ran for office.
Looking at before and after pictures, many presidents aged beyond their years while beeing in office.
Look at the before/after of Clinton and Bush Jr. I wonder how much these guys know (and when) that the public doesn’t know (and never will). To that extent, no matter how much I like (or hate) a certain president, I have always tried to give the benefit of the doubt on decisions with which I disagreed. Going into Iraq was one of those decisions that I disagreed with (vehemently at the time), but still leave open the possibility that Bush knew things (or thought he knew things) that made that the best decision at that moment.
Not taking Simpson/Bowles and running with it when it had some bipartisan support is my big criticism of Obama today…and I still can’t fathom what he could have known that made sitting on his hands the right thing…I’m giving him no benefit of the doubt there, just evidence of weak leadership in my view.
Reminds me of an Onion article “Black Man Given Nation’s Worst Job”
No big deal the housing market should snap back anytime, what with all these programs to help the FB out. Check back in a decade or so to see how it’s going.
Damn, the Bernank hardly shuts his mouth now. The bankster boyz must be working him pretty hard.
- Bernanke: Deep Spending Cuts Could Derail Recovery- Reuters
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned Congress on Thursday that overzealous cuts to government spending could derail an already fragile recovery and said a U.S. debt default could wreak financial havoc.
2006: “Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.”
2007: “At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”
2007: “It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.”
2008: “The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”
A business in Lackawanna County PA. is closing its doors and hundreds will be left jobless.
Ocean Logistics at the Keystone Industrial Park in Dunmore PA. notified the state labor department that it will stop all operations at its warehouse by September.
That means 206 workers will be out of jobs.
The facility has been in operation for more than 50 years in the area. The warehouse processes health and beauty aids and distributes to A&P supermarkets.
More than 200 people work there, but come September 12, all those people will be out of jobs.
The state labor department received a warn notice this week from the company.
It said Ocean Logistics will no longer provide warehousing and distribution services to its sole customer. Therefore the Dunmore warehouse will permanently close.
Some folks in the area reacted to the layoffs.
“You know it’s sad to hear this because it’s been going on, and you don’t know where it’s going to end, and you hate to have to think it’s going to be a depressed area,” said Angie Richards of Dunmore.
“It’s always difficult when you hear about places closing and people losing their jobs. They said the economy is on the rebound but I can’t believe that when laying people off and closing places. It’s not easy,” said Larry Hickernell of Scranton.
“They said the economy is on the rebound but I can’t believe that when laying people off and closing places. It’s not easy,” said Larry Hickernell of Scranton.”
Massachusetts accountant Carl Sorabella had every reason to believe that his employer would grant his request for a more flexible schedule so that he could assist his wife, who had just been diagnosed with Stage IV lung cancer and given only months to live. After all, he’d been with Haynes Management in Wellesley, for 13 years, and had just been given a raise in November.
But instead of a more accommodating schedule, he got a pink slip in response to his request, even though he had made it clear that he was willing to work nights and weekends to make up for the time he intended to spend taking his wife in for treatments and tests.
“It shocks me,” said Kathleen, Sorabella’s wife of 23 years. “People are supposed to help each other. I guess corporate America is different.”…
…Sorabella says that his boss told him they were thinking about laying him off anyway, due to “modifications in workforce requirements.”… He says that he later saw an employment ad for his old job with the same company…..
“…if you tax them less, they can hire more people!”
Hurry! reduce/eliminate their taxe$, hurry,… Cinder$ & Ashe$…Schemer$ & Scammmer$…Agonie$ & Pain$, help ‘em…help ‘em.
“TruePatriotCEO’$™” plead, plead, plead: “give u$ a tax repatriation holiday and we’ll bring the money back and start creating Job$! Job$! Job$!…”
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patterns of behavior
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Straighten up and fly right
Straighten up and stay right
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My suspicion is that the company didn’t want to pay the spike in company health insurance premiums to cover Mrs. Sorabella’s treatments, and so they fired the husband.
Because there was an ad for his old job, Sorabella’s job position was not eliminated; he was technically not laid off. Therefore he’s probably not eligible for unemployment payments. Did they fire him for “cause?” Is just asking for a schedule change considered cause to fire someone? Legal eagles, are there grounds for a lawsuit in here somewhere?
My sister used to work for Target. Management got rid of her and a single mom-to-be. My sister had her whole family on her health insurance. I have always wondered if she and the other lady were targeted (pun intended) because their insurance cost the company more than others. At least she got her 99 weeks of unemployment out of the b–tards.
“Family and Medical Leave Act” and he’s just hit the lawsuit jackpot.
From the article:
“Unfortunately, Sorabella has no legal recourse. Federal and state laws that protect workers from this kind of treatment only apply to larger companies with more than 50 employees.”
OAKES, N.D. — A plant that makes military equipment is closing in the North Dakota city of Oakes.
A spokesman for the parent company of JLG Industries tells the American News the plant will close Aug. 31, putting 56 people out of work.
Oshkosh Corp. spokesman John Daggett says the closing is prompted by “market dynamics” and will be phased in over the summer. Workers are not being offered severance packages or an opportunity to transfer to another plant but will get bonuses if they stay until the plant closes and meet certain conditions.
The plant was slated for closure two years ago but local and state officials worked with North Dakota’s congressional delegation to keep it open.
Mayor Monty Zimmer says the closure will “greatly impact” the town of about 1,700 people.
Team Obama need to pull a Bush and send some dough to the general population. Except this tmis in the form of plastic cards that can only be used at retailers.
Call it: The SNAP card, for… Shop Now Aggressively Please!
U.S. Retail Sales Stagnate as Unemployment Curbs Consumers
(Bloomberg)
Sales at U.S. retailers stagnated in June as rising unemployment held consumers back.
The 0.1 percent increase reported by the Commerce Department in Washington today compared with the median forecast of a 0.1 percent drop in the Bloomberg News survey of 80 economists. Excluding auto sales, purchases were little changed, the weakest performance since July 2010.
Total sales were boosted by an unexpected increase in demand at auto dealers that will not influence figures on consumer spending for the second quarter that the government will publish later this month. Increasing joblessness prompted stores like Target Corp. and Gap Inc. to sweeten discounts to lure customers as a dearth of jobs raises the risk that household purchases will have difficulty picking up for the rest of 2011.
“Consumers are cautious,” said Michelle Meyer, a senior economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in New York. “There is still pretty slow momentum. It still shows we’re in a fragile recovery.”
I would love to help you with this Maybe not eradicate, but a reduction to about 500 millions total eaters/breeders would make Earth a much more enjoyable place.
Hey it’s all good! You might have missed my comment yesterday about the genetically engineered super humans that will be created to take over. I’m sure they will decide the right number of homo-sapiens the planet can support.
Actually, given the trajectory of science and the population this is a no brainer.
ITEM: In the second day of testimony in his semi-annual appearance before members of Congress, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has renewed the promise made yesterday that the central bank could put more monetary stimulus into play if the economic recovery stumbles.
This is “Fed-Speak” for - “We’re ready to roll with more Quantitative Easing if the economy doesn’t perk up.”
← Quantitative Easing means monetary inflating. It could ignite a serious round of price inflation. However, the huge shadow of deflation hovers over the scene as prices of big ticket items like houses and commercial property continue to drop. By some estimates real estate has another 20 percent to fall before buyers come into the market in force.
Does the Federal Reserve have the ammo to jump-start the economy if deflationary pressure doesn’t ease? We’ll find out.
Burglaries up 14% on last year, annual crime figures show British Crime Survey reports increase in domestic burglaries in England and Wales
“The shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, said: “After years of falling crime, these figures show the further progress people want is now at risk and there are some very worrying signs. “Burglary is up by 14%, domestic violence is up by a shocking 35%, violent crime is up, including a 38% increase in assault with minor injury.”
Anyone remember last year when “analysts” were predicting record auto sales due to “pent up demand”. Some were even predicting that 19-20 million cars would be sold.
“Sales at U.S. retailers probably stagnated in June, reflecting declining auto demand and rising unemployment, economists said before a report today.”
“Sales of cars and light vehicle ran at a seasonally adjusted 11.41 million annual rate in June, down from 11.76 million in May and 13.14 million in April, according to researcher Autodata Corp. Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. deliveries each fell 21 percent from the same month last year, reflecting supply-chain constraints linked to Japan’s March earthquake, while General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. said sales rose 10 percent.”
I love how they blamed the drop in Toyota and Honda sales on the earthquake, as if there wasn’t plent of inventory on the dealer lots, and in transit, not to mention that Toyota and Honda assemble many of their models in North America with high domestic content.
How about … car sales dropped as prices rose dramatically while buyer incomes dropped?
Merck job cuts set to accelerate July 14, 2011 — By Tracy Staton- FiercePharma
Merck’s ($MRK) long-planned job cuts are set to accelerate. The company announced its intent to shed some 15,000 jobs by 2012 last year, but thousands of those jobs have yet to go. Sources tell Pharmalot that Merck plans to amp up its layoff process soon, probably early next month.
Merck announced the cuts in the wake of its 2009 merger with Schering-Plough. The idea was to save some $3.5 billion by slashing the payroll by 10% and shuttering facilities. Such an enormous restructuring plan takes time, of course, and as of March, Merck still had about 8,000 jobs remaining to be cut, Pharmalot figures.
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Now, the layoffs will speed up, the blog’s sources said. And they may not end with the announced 15,000. Company insiders tell Pharmalot that officials may want to cut the workforce even more than they had planned. Merck execs are combing operations for more ways to save money, they say. Merck itself declined comment.
Voters blame Shrub more than Obama for the economy:
By Holly Bailey | The Ticket – 3 hrs ago
Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama’s handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Shrub is responsible for the nation’s di$mal financial $tate.
A Country in Denial About Taxes:
Leonard Burman The Impertinent Economist
“Back in the olden days, we acknowledged that wars cost money and didn’t think that our children should pay the entire cost, with interest. (Imagine that!) There were huge tax increases to finance World War II and the Korean War, and fairly significant ones to pay for Vietnam.”
Hundreds scramble for Dallas County rental vouchers
by CYNTHIA VEGA and REBECCA LOPEZ WFAA July 14, 2011
DALLAS — At least eight people were hurt Thursday morning while scrambling to line up for a limited number of Dallas County rental vouchers — after waiting for hours in their cars.
People lined up Thursday morning to apply for Dallas County Section 8 housing vouchers. Dallas County sheriff’s spokesman Kim Leach estimated the crowd at about 5,000.
The office at the Jesse Owens Memorial Complex wasn’t supposed to open until 8 a.m., but some applicants started lining up at 10 o’clock Wednesday night.
Police kept people off school district property until the gates opened at 6 a.m. That resulted in a long string of cars lined up on the streets.
Doors were opened early.
Hundreds of people rushed the line, causing moments of unruliness.
“I started running and I slipped and fell,” said applicant Jordan Spivey, who suffered cuts and scrapes as she was caught up in the crowd. But she said she feels lucky that she wasn’t trampled.
“It was a madhouse,” said applicant Ada McKinsey, who was injured as the crowd closed in around the door. “People pushing, fighting.”
But authorities eventually gained control.
Seven people were treated by paramedics. None were taken to the hospital.
Report: Obama MIA in Latin America
By Paul Bedard USNEWS - July 14, 2011
Add Latin America to the list of regions upset with President Obama’s lack of follow-through on campaign and White House promises.
“Whatever changes Obama’s presence may have introduced into the White House, Latin America remains forgotten,” says prominent author and journalist Marco Gandasegui Jr. in a new and scathing report in the influential Latin American Perspectives. “Most observers agree that, for Obama, Latin America continues to be terra incognita.”
In his critical review of Obama’s presidency, the University of Panama professor says that Latin leaders, especially pro-Democracy advocates, have been let down by the administration. They expected Obama to lift the Cuban embargo, lessen the U.S. military influence in several nations and support democracy efforts. But so far, nada.
“After his two years in office, most observers in the region agree that the United States has yet to deliver in three areas: ending the Cuban embargo, respecting democratic institutions (Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador), and abandoning its military agenda (e.g., the Colombia Plan, the Mérida Initiative, and the Fourth Fleet),” writes Gandasegui.
“In the first two years of Obama’s administration Latin America was practically erased from the map in the White House,” he adds.
The Bernank’s head must be spinning… Is he or isn’t he?
Bernanke: No Plans Now for Bond Purchases (Bloomberg)
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told Congress that the central bank isn’t currently ready to embark on a third round of government bond-buying to stimulate the economy.
“We’re not prepared at this point to take further action,” Bernanke said today, in response to a question from Senate Banking Committee Chairman Tim Johnson, a Democrat from South Dakota. Johnson asked Bernanke why the Fed wasn’t immediately starting a new stimulus program given the weak economic recovery and rising unemployment.
Stocks fell, driving the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to the lowest level of the month. The S&P declined 0.7 percent to 1,308.25 at 1:18 p.m. in New York after rising as much as 0.7 percent. Gold futures pared gains after reaching a record $1,594.90 an ounce.
In House testimony yesterday, he said the Fed still has tools to spur growth, and that “we have to keep all the options on the table,” driving share prices higher. Bernanke told Senators today that policy makers want to see if the economy rebounds as anticipated in the coming months, and that they are keeping a close eye on inflation.
Should the economy turn out to be weaker than expected, the central bank may provide more monetary stimulus, Bernanke said. A third round of quantitative easing, or QE3, is an option if a recent economic slowdown persists and deflationary forces re- emerge, he said.
D.C. Firefighters To Help Police Streets?
NBC Washington - Jul 14, 2011
Firefighters are upset about a proposal asking them to help police streets so teenagers don’t get robbed.
Both D.C. firefighters and police officers are upset over a new program that forces the fire department to help fight crime.
For the past three weeks, D.C. Fire and EMS personnel have been parking their trucks at high crime neighborhoods.
“It’s to prevent things from bubbling up. The idea is that if you have a fire engine with adults there no one is going to commit a crime,” said D.C. Deputy Mayor Paul Quander.
City officials said they just want firefighters to call 911 if they see suspicious activity.
The D.C. police union and firefighters union say the plan is not safe.
“I think it is a disaster,” said D.C. Police Union spokesman Kris Baumann. “You’re putting untrained, unsupervised, unequipped firefighters in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in town to perform a law enforcement function.”
Right now, the plan is to keep the policy in place at least through next spring.
Don’t worry boyz the Bernank will come though for you, just jerking your chain a little that’s all. Bidness as usual.
Wall Street sags on new Bernanke talk, Nasdaq off 1 percent
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stocks fell on Thursday as new comments from the Federal Reserve chairman dashed investors’ hopes for the chance of further stimulus and tech shares pushed the Nasdaq down 1 percent.
During a second day of testimony about the economy, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke reiterated that the U.S. central bank would be ready to inject more money should the economy get worse. But he told a Senate committee that the time had not come yet and noted inflation had picked up since late 2010.
Stocks had climbed on Wednesday as investors took Bernanke’s remarks before a House panel as signaling the possibility of more stimulus for the economy if the outlook worsens. The central bank’s most recent stimulative program contributed to strong equity gains since September.
“Bernanke has backed off considerably from what might have been more stimulus, and that made yesterday’s rally like eating sugar for lunch: Nothing more than a short burst of energy,” said Kent Engelke, chief economic strategist at Capitol Securities Management in Richmond, Virginia.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Testy lawmakers pointed fingers at one another and President Barack Obama on Thursday as negotiations over raising the national debt limit entered a perilous endgame. Wall Street eyed the standoff with growing anxiety, warning of catastrophe if the U.S. defaults on its obligations.
Obama’s blunt declaration that “enough is enough” as Wednesday’s talks ended did nothing to quell the rancor as a new day of positioning and posturing began.
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Despite McConnell’s assertions that the debt problem belongs to Obama, fresh polling from Quinnipiac University suggested voters would be more apt to hold Republicans responsible than Obama, by 48 percent to 34 percent, if the debt limit is not raised. The same survey showed voters were about evenly split on whether they’re more concerned about raising the limit and increasing government debt, or seeing the government go into default and damaging the economy.
“The American people aren’t very happy about their leaders, but President Barack Obama is viewed as the best of the worst, especially when it comes to the economy,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of Quinnipiac’s Polling Institute.
That helps explain why McConnell put forward a plan that would give Obama new powers to overcome Republican opposition to raising the debt ceiling.
The proposal would place the burden on Obama to win debt ceiling increases up to three times, provided he was able to override congressional vetoes — a threshold Obama could manage to overcome even without a single Republican vote and without massive spending cuts. Conservatives promptly criticized the plan for giving up the leverage to reduce deficits. But the plan raised the prospect of combining it with some of the spending cuts already identified by the White House in order to win support from conservatives in the House.
In an interview with radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham, McConnell described his plan in stark political terms, warning fellow conservatives that failure to raise the debt limit would probably ensure Obama’s re-election in 2012. He predicted that a default would allow Obama to argue that Republicans were making the economy worse.
“You know, it’s an argument he has a good chance of winning, and all of a sudden we (Republicans) have co-ownership of a bad economy,” McConnell said. “That’s a very bad positioning going into an election.”
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“You know, it’s an argument he has a good chance of winning, and all of a sudden we (Republicans) have co-ownership of a Cheney-Shrub shadow-effect #3 residual bad economy,”
What, “Republitards” doesn’t cut it anymore? You had this “tard” stuff self-banned from your posts for a couple of months now, and it was a good thing.
I will try my best to keep it contained, even as the R-cans doom their 2012 election prospects by driving far too fast in this game of debt ceiling chicken.
As negotiators in the debt-ceiling talks sputtered and raged, the chill reality of an imminent government default crept up Wednesday and made a mockery of their gamesmanship. Two major rating agencies warned that a once-unthinkable downgrade of the nation’s credit rating would be at hand if this crisis was not immediately defused.
That finally punctured the careless notion, popularized by Tea Party lawmakers like Michele Bachmann and Louie Gohmert, that default would be a minor inconvenience. Standard & Poor’s said a downgrade could occur if any required payments were missed, even if bondholders were paid first. Moody’s said a new process for dealing with the debt ceiling was needed. Although the bond markets have yet to be roiled, there are fresh indications that China and other investors are beginning to get nervous.
The alarms could not be much louder, but myth-making is still impeding the desperately needed deal.
Many House Republicans persist in acting as though they are doing President Obama a favor by considering a debt-ceiling increase at all, and that in exchange they should get all the spending cuts they want. In fact, the debt ceiling is an artificial method of keeping an eye on borrowing that Congress itself imposed nearly a century ago. The president didn’t “ask” for an increase; he simply reminded Congress that the authority to continue borrowing had run out because of spending already incurred, largely because of wars, the recession, growing entitlement programs and the Bush tax cuts.
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‘Depressed’ Ferret Flees Siberian Circus
The Moscow Times - 14 July 2011
A ferret has escaped a circus in the East Siberian city of Chita along with a monkey and a red-breasted parakeet — apparently because they all were feeling down due to bad weather.
“We believe the creatures have fled because of their depression — the rain in Chita just doesn’t stop,” the circus’ art director, Zhanna Lazerson, told Interfax on Thursday.
“We found the monkey in a doghouse in the morning, and the two animals were cuddling in their sleep,” she said. “But the search for the ferret and the parakeet goes on.”
She said the escape has added to the animals’ depression in the circus because the male parakeet was partnered on stage with a female parakeet who is now missing him.
The ferret is less missed, with Lazerson calling him a “terrible glutton, idle to the core.”
Nevertheless, the troupe hopes that the animals will return to their circus home once they get really hungry.
Weather forecasts say the rain won’t let up in Chita this week.
As foreign envoys converge on Istanbul to discuss yet again how to get rid of Muammar Qaddafi, the Libyan dictator is living up to his reputation for cunning by hanging on longer than any of them had predicted.
For all the early talk of days-not-weeks to the endgame, Qaddafi has survived four months of NATO bombings and confounded diplomats with his mixture of bluffs and threats. It’s the same bag of tricks Qaddafi has used to keep more than 100 tribes under control since taking power in a military coup in 1969.
“The man is a fox,” said Karim Mezran, a Libyan exile and a political science professor at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies in Bologna, Italy. “He’s adept at running rings around his enemies. He’s done it for decades and he’s doing it again.”
The future of the North African nation without Qaddafi and how to fund and arm the impoverished rebels trying to end his four-decade rule has been at the crux of the past four monthly meetings of the 22-nation Libya Contact Group. The Turks host the latest round tomorrow.
The problem is they’ve underestimated his resilience and, even if his eventual ouster is inevitable, he could hang on for months even amid fuel shortages, according to Mezran.
Since the last meeting in Abu Dhabi, Turkey has become the 26th nation to recognize the rebels’ Benghazi-based National Transitional Council. The U.S. is not one of them. Legislation to give rebels access to frozen Libyan assets is stalled in the U.S. Senate, adding to the prospect that the rebels will run out of cash to buy food and supplies.
The head moonbat does not want to go to Camp David…
Pelosi Says She’s ‘Almost Too Busy’ to Continue Listening to Debt Talks
Thursday, July 14, 2011
(CNSNews.com) – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she is “almost too busy” to continue listening to what is going on in the debt limit meetings at the White House with congressional leaders.
At a Capitol Hill press conference on Thursday Pelosi said, “Day in and day out, the president has respectfully listened, accommodated, engaged in conversation in a very informed way and he is the president of the United States. I know he’s busy.”
“I myself am almost too busy to continue listening to some of the things that are going on in that room,” said Pelosi. “So I know he must be very busy. But he has treated everyone there with great dignity. The only thing I hope he doesn’t ask us to do is go to Camp David. That goes beyond the pale. Driving down the street for these meetings is one thing –.”
The only thing I hope he doesn’t ask us to do is go to Camp David.
Recall that Carter got Sadat and Begin to come to an agreement at Camp David. Part of the reason why this came about because Camp David is a real bore. The two fellas had nothing else to do except…
…come to an agreement.
More recently, in Robert Reich’s Clinton administration memoir, Locked in the Cabinet, Camp David is described as “a bunch of mildewy cabins in the woods.”
New vault may be necessary to store unpopular dollar coins
BALTIMORE (ABC News Radio) - The U.S. Mint in Philadelphia is a big, noisy, busy operation, capable of minting nearly 2 million presidential dollar coins daily. But most of those coins go into storage, never seeing the light of day. Costing 32 cents apiece to produce, these manganese brass dollars have proven unpopular with a public that prefers paper.
ABC News went to one such storage facility, the Federal Reserve in Baltimore, where the coins are in plastics bags and cardboard boxes, stacked one on top of another, creating several aisles of presidential coinage worth millions of dollars.
In their most recent annual report to Congress, the Federal Reserve says the coins are piling up so quickly they will need to spend $650,000 to build a new vault in Dallas to hold them. Shipping the coins to the new secure facility will cost an additional $3 million.
Passed by Congress in 2005, the Presidential $1 Coin Act ordered the mint to make millions of coins to honor every dead president, but not even Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., one of the co-sponsors of the original bill, uses the legal tender.
“Do you use these things? Do you have any of these things in your pocket?” Reed was asked by ABC News’ Jonathan Karl while holding the dollar coins. “I don’t I tell you, but I like everyone else repeatedly use nickels, dimes, quarters. In fact I have a little jar in my car for the traffic meters.”
Reed and other senators sent a letter this week to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Mint Acting Director Richard Peterson asking for help in improving the program while eliminating waste of taxpayer resources.
Meanwhile, the coins keep coming off the production lines, already more than a billion made and counting. The Fed’s report estimates that they could have more than $2 billion in excess $1 coins by the time the program is expected to end five years from now.
You haven’t missed anything. People don’t want them because they’re heavy and bulky. Retail doesn’t want them because there’s no place in cash drawers for them. Collectors probably don’t want them because there are so many being made and the metal has no real value.
I used to get a couple rolls of the dollar coins and a bunch of $2 bills from the bank to use for tips when I took vacations out of the United States. After they did double take you couldn’t pry those dollars out of their hands.
But most of those coins go into storage, never seeing the light of day.
cry-pi$$ & moaaan…or get hip:
The dollar coin trick involves purchasing large amounts of coins with a frequent flier card, waiting for the Mint to ship the coins (free shipping!), and then taking the coins to the bank, where they are deposited and the money is used to pay the credit card charges. No money is lost, the frequent flier miles rack up, and travelers can use them for upgrades or completely free flights whenever they want.
Fly for Free Thanks to the U.S. Mint:
by John Giuffo / Forbes /Thursday, July 14, 2011
It goes something like this: The U.S. Mint, through a 2005 act of Congress, is required to place $1 billion worth of the golden presidential and Sacagewea dollars into circulation in an effort to stimulate general use. The only problem is, the coins haven’t really caught on with the general public. But there is one group of people that have enthusiastically embraced their use: travel hackers, so called because they aggressively look for loopholes in promotional programs and for tips on travel websites for ways in which to make the best use of their travel dollars. Much of this “hacking” involves taking advantage of frequent flier programs in unique and innovative ways.
Internet searches are making information easy to forget, as more people rely on their computers as a type of “external memory,” a study of Harvard University students found.
About 60 Harvard students were asked to type 40 pieces of trivia, such as “An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain,” into computers, and were told either the information would be saved or erased. People who believed the data would be saved were less likely to remember, according to the study published online by the journal Science.
The widely available Internet has made it an instant go-to library where facts and figures are easily found, the researchers said. The study suggests that search engines such as Google Inc. and databases such as Amazon.com Inc IMDb.com serve as an external “memory, where information is stored collectively outside ourselves,” they said.
“We are becoming symbiotic with our computer tools, growing into interconnected systems,” the authors wrote in the paper. “We have become dependent on them to the same degree we are on all the knowledge we gain from our friends and coworkers — and lose if they are out of touch.”
“We are becoming symbiotic with our computer tools, growing into interconnected systems,” the authors wrote in the paper. “We have become dependent on them to the same degree we are on all the knowledge we gain from our friends and coworkers — and lose if they are out of touch.”
Hasn’t Ray Kurzweil said the same thing for years?
Sure has. Asimov had a story about a time when everyone has essentially a buffed out PDA that tells them what to do. One day a little boy loses his and chaos ensues. Anybody ever read that one?
The biggest problem is “scrubbing,” making searches almost worthless for anything you once saw and now no longer available.
What is “scrubbing?” There are companies that are paid to find and eliminate any reference to any given subject on the Internet from wherever it is found.
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Why do we even superficially attempt to buy off failed governments and deluded martyrs who are willing to blow themselves up at the end of the day? If they do so without our draining dollars, would we not be the net winner?
I think people should get what they want, and if people want to kill each other over interpretations of the koran…let them…Its a religious Jihad, not political so they should be aiming at each others mosques and leave the innocent bystanders alone.
And we should only be in iraq and Afghan to protect the oils fields since that is in our national interest to do so. Having our troops in the line of fire is just plain disgusting
None of that stuff matters. What matters is that Jamie Dimon is going to bull$hit us out of this…
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/sec-pornography-employees-spent-hours-surfing-porn-sites/story?id=10452544
SEC will keep Jamie & the other banksters honest.
Oh, wait….
Anybody who thinks this is an isolated situation just in this one government agency is sadly mistaken.
Foreclosure activity slowed in first half of 2011
Report: Delays in bank processing push likely US foreclosures until 2012, stalling recovery
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The number of homes taken back by lenders in the first half of this year fell 30 percent compared with the same 2010 period, the result of delays in foreclosure processing that threaten to stall a U.S. housing recovery.
Banks seized 421,212 homes in the first six months of the year, down from 529,633 between January and June last year, foreclosure listing firm RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday.
The decline reflects lenders taking longer to move against homeowners who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments. The banks are working through foreclosure documentation problems that first surfaced last fall and an ensuing logjam in some state courts. Lenders also have put off on taking action against delinquent borrowers as U.S. home sales have slowed this year.
As the processing delays mount, however, so has the backlog of potential foreclosures — homes that otherwise would have been repossessed by lenders this year.
RealtyTrac estimates that 1 million foreclosure-related notices that should have been filed by banks this year will be pushed to next year. The filings include notices for defaults, scheduled home auctions and home repossessions — warnings that can lead to a home eventually being lost to foreclosure.
New Palm Beach County foreclosures double in month
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:30 a.m. Thursday, July 14, 2011
The number of Palm Beach County homeowners who fell into foreclosure last month more than doubled from May, a possible sign that banks are recovering from paperwork problems and ramping up pursuit of delinquent borrowers.
In June, lenders filed 1,061 initial foreclosure actions in Palm Beach County, up from 484 in May, according to a report to be released today by the Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac, which measures foreclosures nationwide.
The numbers are still below those filed during the same time in 2010 and much lower than at the height of the foreclosure crisis in late 2008 and early 2009 when as many as 3,000 foreclosures were being filed in Palm Beach County each month.
Also last month, 964 Palm Beach County homes were repossessed in the final stage of foreclosure, the most of any county in Florida and 20 percent of all repossessions statewide.
Analysts have been predicting since the beginning of this year that foreclosures would pick up after banks improved foreclosure procedures after a fall moratorium.
But determining whether June’s statistics are the beginning of a flood or just a blip is “like trying to read tea leaves,” said Guy Cecala, CEO and publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance.
“But determining whether June’s statistics are the beginning of a flood or just a blip is “like trying to read tea leaves,” said Guy Cecala, CEO and publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance”.
I’ll take a shot at reading those “tea leaves” Guy… It’s not just a blip! Move to higher ground.
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New Palm Beach County foreclosures double in month
REPORT ABUSE boa declined our short sale because they wanted the buyer to raise his offer $6k. the banks are trying to help people, huh?!
trying to sell
10:43 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE We intentionally bought a house “below our means” 19 years ago. Peers who refinanced numerous times for ski vacations and granite countertops, etc. to “up their status,” complain they’ve “lost” money on their homes. Really? Since when is it the “greedy” banks’ fault for expecting people to pay mortgages they signed off on? What made me smart enough to not buy (or refinance) beyond my means, and the next guy “too dumb” to know better than to buy (or refinance) above their means?
H
10:46 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE Raise your hand if you know of anyone who is “intentionally” not paying their mortgage, moved out, and is actually renting their house out and “pocketing the cash.” Cool, and I as a taxpayer and mortager payer am responsible for helping clean up this mess (by paying more taxes)?
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10:52 AM, 7/14/2011
10:46 AM, 7/14/2011 REPORT ABUSE Raise your hand if you know of anyone who is “intentionally” not paying their mortgage, moved out, and is actually renting their house out and “pocketing the cash.” Cool, and I as a taxpayer and mortager payer am responsible for helping clean up this mess (by paying more taxes)?
I can think of a case of that right up the street. Tenants bailed last November and the place was foreclosed on in March.
What if a privately funded group hired an accounting firm to audit a megabank with emphasis in regards to mortgage performance to date? It is just possible you could get a story here…
The odds of that happening are about the same as a private group auditing the FED or the CIA. Those are tightly guarded secrets. If that knowledge were public it would be the end of the (financial) world as we know it.
Beat me to it, Mike.
Liz,
You can hire anyone you want to “audit” any business you want. But if the organization you want audited doesn’t volunteer to participate, you aren’t going to get to see anything but the already public records.
Good luck.
Oh hell. I guess we just have to stand by and watch them lie and con everybody as they get richer.
Yeah pretty much, cuz regulations is commienism!
I was just thinking that they have GOT to speed this process up for the sake of their own balance sheets. They were saying on NPR this morning that there are 3 years worth of foreclosure filings in the court system right now waiting for a stamp. How can they let the process drag out for three years? That is three years during which the banks will not be receiving mortgage payments. I wonder what will give. I wonder what they will come up with to speed up the process without trying to circumvent the system (which is what caused this slowdown in the first place).
I wish it would happen, but I don’t think it will. Faster foreclosures in judicial states would require those states to hire more people, which isn’t going to happen with the state of finances in pretty much every state. I think the judicial process is so slow that ultimately it is going to push lenders to other things: short sales, creative ways to write down debt, etc.
One of the more interesting ideas I’ve heard recently is for underwater debtors who could walk-away. The suggestion is that if they pay their mortgage for 3-5 years despite being underwater, the lender will write off 10-30% of the principal balance of the loan.
Ultimately, what this will mean is that states with a non-judicial foreclosure process will be first to emerge from the mess. The most notable problem states that are non-judicial are AZ, NV, and CA. The most notable states that are judicial (i.e. with the potential the mess dragging on) are FL, NY, and IL. I guess the good news is that 30 of 51 states/DC have a non-judicial path to foreclosure. The bad news is that the 21 states that are judicial only include a lot of population (NY, Mass, Maryland, IL, NJ, FL).
Ultimately, what this will mean is that states with a non-judicial foreclosure process will be first to emerge from the mess. The most notable problem states that are non-judicial are AZ, NV, and CA.
And, when it comes to recovery, my money’s on…
…California. Why? Because, despite its problems, it has one of the largest, most diversified economies in the world.
AZ? Still very obsessed with real estate development and population growth.
NV? If it isn’t gambling-related, it’s not being considered.
My money is also on CA, for an additional reason:
Despite the press, there were a lot fewer homes built in CA relative to it’s population growth than most other states since 1990. There are simply more people per existing housing unit than every state other than Utah (it’s close though…), which is why there is a relatively low vacancy rate for housing in CA (especially as compared to AZ, NV, FL, etc.).
My money is on Maryland and Virginia. Any government cuts are going to happen slow. Also, reductions in staff — either for federal or contracting — is done by retirement attrition. Those are folks who can afford to retire.
Agree with the government cuts, and your points on retirees. But, you have to get through excess supply for significant recovery.
While Maryland’s rental vacancy rate has fallen from 14% at worst back to about 8% (about where it was in early 2005), the homeowner vacancy rate is nearly 4%, up from 1% in Q1 2005 (and importantly, up from just over 2% in mid-2009). And it’s a judicial foreclosure state…
Virginia seems to have the opposite problem. Homeowner vacancy rate is at about 2% and not much higher than it was in 2005/2006 (when it was around 1.5%). Rental vacancy rates however are at about 10% and haven’t been coming down. Good news there though is that Virginia is non-judicial as a foreclosure state.
CA has a rental vacancy rate of about 6%, down from the peak at over 8% a little over a year ago, and about where it was from 2005-2008 for perspective. CA’s homeowner vacancy rate is currently at about 2.2%, similar to VA in that the homeowner vacancy rate was between about 1.5% and 2.5% from mid-2005 until the end of 2007.
Time will tell. I think though we can all agree on one thing. Florida probably won’t be the first to recover…the combination of judicial foreclosure only, and high supply to burn through (3.8% homeowner vacancy rate and 16.3% rental vacancy rate) means a fair bit more of time to pass before recovery.
That is three years during which the banks will not be receiving mortgage payments. ”
3 years banks don’t have to record losses
Yep, even if they aren’t getting payments, they still book the inflated asset as collateral.
I am certainly glad all these big thinkers are popping up pointing out things the rest of us would have never seen coming!
Reinhart-Rogoff Warn Rising Government Debt Levels Threaten Global Economy -July 14 (Bloomberg)
Rising government debts pose a significant risk to economic growth and financial stability in the U.S. and Europe, economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff wrote in a column for Bloomberg View.
Nations historically have run into trouble when public debt exceeds 90 percent of gross domestic product, Reinhart, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, and Rogoff, a Harvard University professor, said. And by their reckoning, the U.S. and some European nations have passed that threshold.
“While we expect to see more than one member of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development default or restructure their debt before the European crisis is resolved, that isn’t the greatest threat to most advanced economies,” they wrote. “The biggest risk is that debt will accumulate until the overhang weighs on growth.”
The barn is over here.
The horse is over there.
QUICK, SHUT THE BARN DOOR. hurry
Shiller predicts 20% drop
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/20-drop-housing-cause-recession-2012-says-gary-161445494.html
That’s for next year , a 20% drop in housing prices . What about the year after that ? 19% ? That would be a slowing of the yearly drop , a slight ‘improvement”.
“With housing slumping again, Shilling says recession is coming to a town near you in 2012.”
Recession must be touring with Def Leppard and Heart.
DEF LEPPARD, Great Britain’s premiere arena rock band, will make its triumphant return to the U.S. with a summer tour kicking off on June 15 in West Palm Beach, Florida. Joining DEF LEPPARD for this highly anticipated tour are Seattle rock legends HEART and RECESSION. Tickets for the Live Recession tour will go on sale on beginning March 4 at Ticketmaster.com and RecessionNation.com.
I saw Def Leppard as an opening act a billion years ago. Great band.
Jeff, Muggy & Palmy, the headline band was Blackfoot, out of Jacksonville if memory serves. There were touring on their “Strikes” album which is excellent. You guys remember them?
I love Def Leppard. Their music has a great spirit and I’ll match it up to any hip-hop boom-boom-boom car rattler or Mexican polka any day.
Not familiar with Blackfoot, though.
Hey, I watched Almost Famous again the other night. Great flick. I’m old enuf to remember when Ben Fong-Torres was the editor at Rolling Stone. The whole portrayal of the band Stillwater in the movie was awesome, guys were just like that back in the day. Billy Crudup and Jason Lee did an awesome job.
+1 one of my favorite movies.
Oh my word Palmetto, Floridian….. Blackfoot is a FL band. Think Skynyrd, Hatchet and 38 special.
I don`t remember Blackfoot, but most of the 80`s were a little blurry for me.
Hard core Southern rock.
some fun music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdIryTBcN9M
What? The Bernake will have to talk to this fellow and set him straight.
‘Fiscal Reckoning’ Faces Nation as Fed’s Ammunition Exhausted, Fisher Says -(Bloomberg)
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President Richard Fisher said central bank efforts to boost the economy have reached their limits and the U.S. faces a “fiscal reckoning” that only lawmakers can resolve.
“Our great country now finds itself in a very difficult predicament,” Fisher, 62, said today in a speech in Dallas. “Congress can no longer carry on as before, oblivious to the deleterious effect of spending our, and the successor generations’, money with unfunded abandon.”
The regional Fed chief, who votes on policy this year, reiterated his view that the central bank has done enough and he’ll be among the first to advocate tighter policy if prices and inflation expectations rise. Fisher spoke a few hours after Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told Congress that he and his colleagues are prepared to take new action, including buying more government bonds, if the economy appears to be in danger of stalling.
“There may be some things the chairman mentioned this morning — those are tinkering at the margin,” Fisher told reporters after the speech. “We’ve exhausted our ammunition, in my view” and expanding the Fed’s balance sheet from about $2.7 trillion to more than $3 trillion “might spook the marketplace,” he said.
“I do not personally see the benefit of more monetary accommodation even if the economy weakens further,” Fisher said. “Again, there’s so much liquidity out there, the question is, ‘What is the trigger to put it to work?’”
“Again, there’s so much liquidity out there, the question is, ‘What is the trigger to put it to work?’”
Maybe if some of that liquidity was actually in Joe6packs’ hands?
But once this liquidity lands in Joe6Pack’s hands it immediately leaks out and floods over to China.
The Chinese make cars and car repairs and hamburgers and beer and beach vacations and music lessons for little Timmy and a nose job for mom and membership at the club for dad and travel league baseball for junior?
It doesn’t all end up in China. And even what does, often circulates through many hands along the way- thus maintaining needed velocity.
I remember learning decades ago that the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few was the cause of the Great Depression. Somewhere along the way the PTB decided to ignore history.
From a globaloutsourcing standpoint, this Great Depression is the distribution of wealth into the hands of too many. The US cooked enough food for 40 people and invited 100. Too many people, not enough money and work to go around.
Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. The workers who are striking in Indonesia have some leverage, because they have the advantage of a natural resource: gold mines. If there is a strike from workers in China who have no value to the MNC’s other than the cheapness of their labor: not a chance. “Made in China” can change to “Made in South Sudan” very quickly.
Really? How about the Asians were nice enough to invite us to their party. We have eating, playing and selling and buying houses. It’s the Asians who have been gathering foods, fishing, cooking and making stuff. We are just sitting their and not contributing at all. Well I suppose in USA you call consumption a contribution. Obama probably does and so does the Bernank.
Butters:
The US industrial machine has invited too many workers. Asia’s industrial machine does not produce enough demand for laborers to keep its people working. Ours produces enough demand for us, but it does not produce enough for us AND them.
How about the Asians were nice enough to invite us to their party.
Epic fail, o-butter-us-up.
Where do you think the Asians got their party hats? That would be from American patriots like Jack Welch, IBM –> Lenovo, Big Box pricing structures, HP, GM and other car companies, Cascadian Farm and their “organic” broccoli, Stickly, universities that paid money to Chinese grad students, and every company which gave away intellectual property to the Chinese just to add an extra buck to their quarterly earnings.
And this all started 20 years BEFORE the housing festival starting in the US.
You Gen-X’ers are too damn lazy. That’s why the economy is suffering according to Greenspan:
Here are his [Greenspan’s] words, in an interview with The Globalist:
“Baby boomers are being replaced by groups of young workers who have regrettably scored rather poorly in international educational match-ups over the last two decades. The average income of U.S. households headed by 25-year-olds and younger has been declining relative to the average income of the baby boomer population. This is a reasonably good indication that the productivity of the younger part of our workforce is declining relative to the level of productivity achieved by the retiring baby boomers. This raises some major concerns about the productive skills of our future U.S. labor force.”
How do you define “productivity”? If productivity is the amount of wealth created by the company for the worker, then productivity is down. If productivity is the amount of product created by the worker in exchange for the money, then productivity is way up.
regrettably scored rather poorly in international educational match-ups over the last two decades.
Just to make sure I understand this correctly:
The baby boomers did better than students from other countries.
The Gen-xers did worse than students from other countries.
————
Therefore, Gen-xers are doing worse than baby boomers.
Problem is, students from other countries are doing better NOW than they did THEN, so using international students is a false comparison. It’s entirely possible — probable, actually — that Gen-xers could do worse than kids from other countries, but still do better than the baby boomers.
And it’s hard to equate the XY-ers with the boomers. Which is lazier: Facebook or “tuning out” at Woodstock? Which is more slacky: Getting a useless college degree, or not going to college at all? Who is more productive: the kid who does internships but never gets paid, or the guy who never had trouble finding mind-numbing manual labor work?
American workers have the highest productivity the world, BAR NONE, with the least amount of time off, benefits and rights of ALL industrial nations.
well i’ve told ya all along….lets us all wake up tomorrow with $2-3000 less on our credit cards.
It always seemed to me the easiest and fastest way to achieve that goal, without a lot of wasted overhead of a new guvmint program.
the $2-3k would just go back on the cards in a few months and the purchases would drive the money to China as stated above.
If there is to be debt forgiveness, the CCs should be cancelled.
The Banksters will never go for that. They love collecting 20% interest from the under $500 a week crowd (and anyone else who is willing to play).
…as well as those who have no choice.
And those of us who have zero on credit cards get what?
A pat on the back and a “job well done”
…maybe.
You are assuming that the beast can EVER be satiated.
It’s like one of those massively obese guys riding on a Rascal. Folks like that never really get the feeling of being full.
Maybe if some of that liquidity was actually in Joe6packs’ hands?”
yea loan it too him he’s good for it
you have to give him a good job thats what the money needs to be used for not setting up manufacturing in China
There is more productive capacity in this country than I can count. US companies are hiring all over the place. The only problem is that they are not hiring US citizens. They are offshoring, importing workers, and hiring illegal immigrants.
You solve that problem and the Federal Reserve will be out of the hot seat, no?
Big V
They ARE hiring Americans but as no pay interns…..the amount of these type of “jobs” in the last 2 years is astronomical.
That’s the problem with globalization: you are competing with hungry serfs in third world countries for jobs. And unlike us their countries provide them with virtually free higher ed.
Granted, their “college experience” would be uncrecognizable to us as their univeristy is most likely housed in a single, no frills, dilapidated multistory building. No student center, no gym, nor dorms, no cafeteria, a library most US high schools would laugh at, no atheltics, no clubs, no landscaping, instructors teach back to back classes all day from 8 AM until 7PM. Minimal overhead staff. You just attend class and go home when you’re done.
our CEO says he can’t find qualified Engineers so hes going to buy companies for their Engineering expertise and issue more stock to do it.
lame
Sounds more like he’s buying a product line and an existing base of customers. This was Mark Hurd’s mode of operation at HP. Don’t develop anything new inhouse, after all that’s risky and you will end up with some duds. Instead find companies with interetsing tech and poor sales/marketing, buy them at a discount and then fire half the staff.
RFMD did that too over paid for serenza
Corporations have tons of money so they look around for ways to spend it I guess. Buyouts and mergers must somehow make CEO’s extra money ?
Hiring new workers is so 1990’s
M&As do indeed make the BODs money. Tons of it. In a variety of ways as well.
Polly would be better qualified to explain ti to you, but the most basic is to sell off as much of the newly acquired company as you can while keeping the core technology/service/market that you bought it for in the first place, cutting staff as the same time.
This helps to offset the acquisition costs.
You also keep it operating as an independent subsidiary. Once the “excess” is trimmed, this almost automatically boosts the stock price, which of course, the BOD has given to itself generously.
This profits the BOD.
This is just a “down and dirty” explanation.
It is simpler than this. The folks in the M&A department in a big company get their bonus based on identifying and carrying out purchases. If they can’t find anything worth buying they find something not worth buying and massage the numbers by making some wild a–ed assumptions about how synergies in the product lines or how the assets can be better deployed in the acquiring company’s core business or whatever. The projected “savings” that they predict as a result of the acquisition almost never take place. They are better than doing nothing less than a third of the time.
And yes, the lawyers and accounting people spend a lot of time getting rid of the bits that they didn’t really want but had to take to get the bits they did want. Lots of people yacking on the phone about who is responsible for Novermber’s ratable portion of the property tax bill. Pathetic really.
I heard Richard Fisher speak at the University of Arizona business school last year. He was test-driving the “end too big to fail” speech that he gave, ISTR, last June.
He’s one of the few fed governors who’s actually been a commercial banker. Most of the rest have had careers in government and/or academia.
Flash Mobs Thwart Foreclosures in Spain (Bloomberg)
Dial-a-Pickets Pressure Spain to Change Home Foreclosure Law
Spain’s Parliament is investigating mortgage rules that mean homeowners remain saddled with debt after handing back their keys.
Luis Dominguez got up at dawn to take a 5 a.m. bus to join a human chain around a Madrid home threatened with foreclosure. Three weeks earlier, the crowd had come to him after he telephoned for help.
“I was facing eviction and they saved me from losing my home,” said Dominguez, 74, a pensioner with a walking stick in one hand and a five-foot placard saying “Stop Evictions” in the other. “I came today to show my gratitude and support.”
The 300 protesters, organized by a group called La Plataforma de los Afectados por la Hipoteca, or PAH, managed to win a reprieve for the property’s owner, a single mother with a disabled son. Rising unemployment in Spain may lead to 300,000 foreclosures this year and next, according to Adicae, a rights group representing bank customers.
Spain has become a battleground between banks hurt by a five-fold increase in residential mortgage arrears since 2007 and debt-laden homeowners who are appealing to the government to reduce the burden on those facing foreclosure.
“In large parts of the U.S., you can just walk away from your home and your debt, and that contributed to the country’s banking crisis,” Jordi Fabregat, a professor of management and financial control at Barcelona’s Esade Business School, said by telephone. “That can’t be done here, so the banks are protected from defaults during a crisis.”
Property Bust
Similar to Ireland, whose credit rating was cut to non- investment grade this week by Moody’s Investors Service, Spain’s economic crisis was driven by a credit-fuelled property bubble that burst. The housing boom that ended in 2008 left Spanish banks with 313 billion euros ($441 billion) in loans related to real estate activity as of June, according to the Bank of Spain.
“I was facing eviction and they saved me from losing my home,” said Dominguez, 74, a pensioner with a walking stick in one hand and a five-foot placard saying “Stop Evictions” in the other. “I came today to show my gratitude and support.”
what happened to the “buy a home and have it paid off before you retire at all cost” mentality.
that’s what my parent’s did.
“what happened to the “buy a home and have it paid off before you retire at all cost” mentality”.
“that’s what my parent’s did”.
That was the smart thing to do but in this new age, a person need not be prudent, because they deserve to be bailed out no matter how poorly they ran their life’s.
“no matter how poorly they ran their life’s”
Right. Luck never has anything to do with it. Sometimes even if you live well, you can end up destitute at 74. I suspect that the percentage of boomers and younger generations that will be impoverished at 74 will be significantly higher than the greatest generation and that many of the prudent will be among them.
unless i know his entire life story from beginning to end i cannot make a “luck” determination.
People that make good choices also tend to be luckier. People that continually make poor choices tend to have bad luck.
Sorry Max, but having your job offshored has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Having laws passed that take away your civil rights has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Taking away consumer safeguards has nothing to with good or poor choices.
Having your pension taken away by your company on a whim has nothing to do with good or poor choices.
Being falsely arrested and having your life destroyed as a result has nothing to with good or poor choices.
Being discriminated against for whatever reason on the job and in your life has nothing to with good or poor choices.
Shall I continue?
“what happened to the “buy a home and have it paid off before you retire at all cost” mentality.”
Offshored along with the jobs that made that possible.
There it goes again, the single mother with a disabled son. Why can’t the dad take them in? Does he already have another wife? Doesn’t he still have to pay some sort of support? I hate it when they mention that the mom is single, and we’re supposed to assume that the dad is like dead or something.
Dad’s a PlaYYYah and a budding rap star. No time or money for the kid
——dad is like dead or something.
I just assume that she could not manage to get him to say “I do” at the right time and in front of the right people. I know that isn’t true for everyone, but it’s the way I would bet.
It could be he left when the disabled son was born. And if he is unemployed, there may not be enough to provide support for them.
I once knew a woman with 4 children under 6. Two had cerebral palsy. Her husband left when the second disabled child was born. He couldn’t handle it. She couldn’t abdicate, so she was stuck.
That’s what the law is for. If the dad is unemployed, then unemployment is the problem. If the dad is low-paid, then low wages are the problem. I just HATE IT when all these FB stories go out of their way to mention that the man is not in the house, as if his lack of presence automatically translates into a lack of responsibility.
Hard to be responsible when your job gets offshored.
Even harder when it’s millions of others as well.
Not to say there aren’t slackers, but lack of millions of jobs FAR overshadows the problem of losers.
This is starting to get really interesting, wonder how the “policy makers” will handle this?
ITEM: Italy Too Big to Bail Out as Crisis Enters ‘New Phase’(Bloomberg)
The euro’s fate may lie in the hands of Italian bondholders as the region’s debt crisis threatens to envelop the Mediterranean nation, according to Credit Agricole Corporate & Investment Bank.
The CHART OF THE DAY shows Italy’s government debt burden, the euro area’s largest at 1.8 trillion euros ($2.6 trillion), dwarfs those of Greece, Ireland and Portugal, which already received bailouts, and Spain, which has the next-highest borrowing costs. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is under pressure from coalition partners to limit its contribution to sovereign bailouts. The European Financial Stability Facility currently has a lending capacity of 250 billion euros.
“If Italy gets to the point where its debt auctions start to fail and it loses access to the market, it becomes difficult to imagine who would have the kind of money that would be required to rescue it,” said Luca Jellinek, head of European interest-rate strategy at Credit Agricole CIB in London. “It’s undoubtedly bigger than the current scope of the EFSF.”
European Central Bank incoming President Mario Draghi said yesterday that the euro-area’s debt crisis has “entered a new phase” and policy makers must come up with a “clear” response to stop the contagion that threatens the survival of the region’s single currency.
Mamma mia!
“and policy makers must come up with a “clear” response to stop the contagion that threatens the survival of the region’s single currency.”
they act as if this is some kind of virus that is just spreading.
newsflash: the patients are already sick…the major symptoms are just now presenting themselves.
there is no turning back the clock.
You notice how they never bother to tell us who lent the money that must be repaid at all costs?
Isn’t Japan’s debt burden also massive? The only difference is that their citizens have lent the money to themselves in large part.
How much of the US debt is internal? Social Security lent to the US government about $2.6T, with other “intergovernmental” borrowings at another $2T… US citizens holding a portion. In December 2010, Foreign Holders of debt ha ~$4.4T of the total (these seem to be mostly foreign central banks, not necessarily individuals).
I’d love to see a graph of Foreign holders of a country’s debt as measured by percentage of GDP of those countries. For the US, our number would be ~31%. What would Greece be? Italy? I’d give them a pass, and let them count other EU countries be intergovernmental borrowings…
It’s the marching of the frogs near Buckingham Palace…
New arrest in Murdoch phone hacking scandal
By REID J. EPSTEIN | 7/14/11 7:06 AM EDT
Politicodotcom
A former high-level News Corp. editor was arrested on Thursday, the ninth since January in the phone hacking scandal that is growing by the day, while Britain’s deputy prime minister said Rupert Murdoch should be “frogmarched” to Parliament to testify about the situation.
The latest developments come as the lead attorney for the company’s British newspaper subsidiary suddenly quit after 26 years. Tom Crone was responsible for vetting stories in The News of the World and the Sun, each of which stands accused of publishing reports based on illegally obtained information.
British news outlets have identified the man arrested Wednesday as former News of the World executive editor Neil Wallis, who served as the paper’s deputy editor and executive editor from 2003 to 2009, when the bulk of the hacking complaints took place.
Gee alpha, next thing you know they’ll be out sloth stomping. Better keep the doors locked.
Christopher Robin stomps sloths with Alice?
(Who would stomp a sloth? Unthinkable. Plus we were wise enough not to come down from the trees, unlike some.)
I stomp sloths with alacrity -
News Corp was one of the biggest, if NOT THE BIGGEST, cheerleader of the RE bubble.
The ridiculousness of this whole raise-the-debt-ceiling issue: see, there’s this central bank acting like a mob boss, saying “borrow more from us or we’ll kill ya!”
And then Wall Street starts threatening, Moody’s is threatening, the IMF is threatening, Obama is threatening, blah, blah.
STFU, every last one of them. It’s just an invented system, fer Chrissakes. They invent it, we rent it. It’s so easy to solve, just put a different system of debt free money issued by the government in place and life goes on.
Crikey, STOP with the hysterics already.
“just put a different system of debt free money issued by the government in place and life goes on”.
The/our system will ride along on it’s debt based fiats until it crashes, burns and ends up on the ash heap of history. Just like all the rest have through time.
“Just like all the rest have through time.”
All fiat currencies have crashed, burned, and ended up on the ash heap of history?
Yes, travel back through time going back thousands of years and you will find that fiats currency’s always fail in one form or another. Start with China they were the first to use paper money, it didn’t work out to well. That was a long,long time ago.
An un-anchored fiat currency always end the same way, toast. How long it takes is another matter.
“An un-anchored fiat currency always end the same way, toast. How long it takes is another matter.”
I wanted specifics, not generalities. Take Europe, for example. Their individual currencies didn’t fail, they were voluntarily ended and the wealth transferred to the Euro. The Euro may be in trouble, but it hasn’t failed. There are quite a few fiat currencies that haven’t failed, at least as yet.
Also, I believe many of the currencies that you say have failed were ‘anchored by’ gold or silver (or silk!). The question of what you mean by ‘fiat money’ then comes up.
What I think you’re really saying is that anything other than physical gold or silver won’t last forever. But it can last generations, as we have seen. How many generations, no one knows.
Are there some unanchored, nonfiat currencies that have survived?
“Are there some unanchored, nonfiat currencies that have survived?”
IOUs? I can’t really think of what an unanchored, nonfiat currency would be.
Maybe the US dollar, in countries where it’s not the official currency, but still can be used in practice as money? Kind of stretching the concept though of nonfiat, though, by saying that since their government hasn’t decreed it a currency, the people nonetheless perceive an intrinsic value in it ( kind of like gold or silver) that allows it to be used as a currency.
Or this:
wikipedia
In a small number of countries, private banknote issue continues to this day. For example, by virtue of the complex constitutional setup in the United Kingdom, certain commercial banks in two of the union’s four constituent countries (Scotland and Northern Ireland) continue to print their own banknotes for domestic circulation, even though they are not fiat money or declared in law as legal tender anywhere. The UK’s central bank, the Bank of England, prints notes which are legal tender in England and Wales; these notes are also usable as money (but not legal tender) in the rest of the UK (see Banknotes of the pound sterling).
alpha:
Those are all unanchored fiat examples.
Those are all unanchored fiat examples.
Unanchored yes, as per your requirements, and also:
“certain commercial banks…continue to print their own banknotes for domestic circulation, even though they are not fiat money or declared in law as legal tender anywhere”
So yes, there are some (rare) examples of unanchored, nonfiat currencies ’surviving’.
Are there any anchored fiat examples in the world today?
Note that anchors can be summarily unanchored (as in the U.S. ending gold convertibility of the dollar in 1971), and anchors can be summarily outlawed (as gold ownership was made illegal in the U.S. in 1933).
Actually, what happened was that Congress passed and the president signed a budget that requires more money than comes in as taxes and more borrowing than has already been authorized.
If we needed to avoid this situation, then they should have passed/signed a budget that didn’t require any new borrowing. But they didn’t. There is a new fiscal year starting on October 1st. Pretty easy to have put it off until then, but they decided to have the face off now.
If they had put it off until then, not reaching an agreement would have meant a shut down of certain government services like processing applications from newly Social Security eligible seniors and passports and stuff like that. Now, we don’t really know what they are going to shut off, because anything they decide not to pay is breaking the law -the budget that has already been passed.
I think that September would have been a better time to fight it out, mostly because shutting down “non-essential” (not really non-essential, really less time urgent) government services is less disruptive to people’s lives than not paying out SS checks (or part of them) or not paying hospitals for Medicare patients, or whatever else they could end up not paying. Plus upping nearly all interest costs, and gobs of financial institutions having to find a different AAA investment to sub in for their Treasuries or whatever.
I suspect they wanted to have this budget fight now and have it later, too. Anything to put Obama in the hot seat and keep him from doing anything else. It worked last December when they wrung significant concessions from Obama on policy issues like letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
“Actually, what happened was that Congress passed and the president signed a budget that requires more money than comes in as taxes and more borrowing than has already been authorized.”
NPR had some legal scholar noting that because of this, that the President actually had a legal argument to borrow more without a formal debt ceiling increase.
The whole thing is a three ring circus. They should just put a tent over the WH, House and Senate.
And Lawrence Tribe pretty much demolished the argument in an op-ed last week. You can’t extend the meaning of debt of the US to include payments that can, actually, be changed by changing the law. Besides, the administration doesn’t want to try that one and they are the only ones who can.
There is an analysis in the Washington Post today says running out of money wouldn’t be planned out in the ways I have been describing. They seem to think it would be a day by day thing. Day 1 $X are coming in and $6X dollars need to go out, so $X worth of bills get paid and $5X don’t. Same thing on a day by day basis until the issue is resolved.
I have no idea why they are assuming that no comprehensive plan will be implemented. Maybe because that would require a little pre-planning and since they were honest about August 2nd being the actual date, they won’t have any time to pre-plan?
Didn’t see that op-ed…I’ll take a look.
They’ll have time to pass a deficit reduction plan that no one will have time to read or think about. Perfect.
They aren’t doing anything different than what I see people at all levels of our society already doing.
If Wall Street and the big corporate donors do not want a debt default, there will be no debt default.
It’s that simple. All this political posturing is just political kabuki theater.
The news media is breathlessly reporting on this stuff. And the politicians are responding in kind to having the spotlight, with all the acting. I guess there’s little other drama for the infotainment industry.
If it’s bad for Wall Street and the big donors, a debt default will not happen.
Obama’s demanding an end to this nonsense until after 2012 was a good strategy. The R’s would have been overjoyed if they could string this out in 2-week intervals for the next year or so, gaining little concessions each time.
Another thought on “bubbles being based on virtual products”: If you can get actual cash for a virtual product (stocks, promises to pay (debt), other), then you have the makings of a bubble.
Real estate? I think demand is relatively consistent. But suddenly give all those who wish to buy the means to buy (aka debauched loans), and they will bid up the prices. I guess I’d call real estate a secondary bubble, resulting from the underlying bubble in debt purchases.
And when I say “virtual product”, I mean a product which is a legal or logical construct, not an actual good or service.
This is totally off topic.
Do any of you have thoughts about the value of a colonoscopy? Are they worthwhile or are they just another procedure that the medical community is pushing to generate revenue?
Have any of you had the procedure? If so then I’d be grateful to hear your comments.
Thanks.
I haven’t had one yet, but have friends who have. No real drama. Apparently you drink some nasty substance a day or two before the procedure, to clean your digestive tract out. At the office, you are sedated, asked to lay on your side. After a a few minutes, the procedure is over. It’s not painful. A little weird. That’s what I’ve heard, from first-hand accounts.
When I have to get one, it will require all of my self control not to say, “Usually, I get dinner and a movie first.”
I don’t recommend saying that
I had one (and an endoscopy, which goes in the other end) because I was having some uncomfortable issues at age 37.
Glad I did, found some items of concern that prompted a few dietary changes, but it was also something that common sense dictated was obvious. Overall for the copay it wasn’t a bad deal. I’ve been through much worse procedures and operations in my life and wouldn’t rank the procedure as anything memorable.
As for the prep, it isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. I had to drink eight, 8.0oz glasses of Ducolax mixed in Crystal Light at 15 minute intervals. I suggest making it all up an hour ahead of time and put all eight glasses in the fridge. That way it is (a) cold, so you can’t taste it as much, and (b), it is all measured out for you.
Also, get lots of reading material. If you think four magazines is enough, get six. And schedule the procedure as early during the day as you can.
I also recommend saying you’d come back in ten years like they recommend but since they didn’t even send flowers you’re going to go with a different doctor.
Us girls are supposed to get paps every year. I haven’t gone in a few. It’s really psychologically gross. Just be glad a colonoscopy only comes once in a blue moon.
“Do any of you have thoughts about the value of a colonoscopy?”
Yes, it’s a pain in the ass.
Everyone’s a comedian when it comes to colonoscopies.
Palmy- here are a couple of professional comedians’ discourse on the topic:
Billy Connolly: http://youtu.be/BBMsPNI6EZE
Robin Williams: http://youtu.be/1rRWI83yhRc
They’re crude, but hilarious.
I’ve had it. It’s no big deal. Colon cancer on the other hand, is a big deal.
What you said.
I think you nailed it with your answer, Colorado.
I’ve had one. Actually kinda enjoyed it. Beats working in 100 degree heat.
I guess that say more about me, than it does the procedure……
It’s the dope they give you…lol.
My dad died from colon cancer. I had a colonoscopy a few years ago. About due for another. The procedure is no big deal. They knock you out and next thing you know you are being woken up in a bed in another room.
How about a highly profitable and 90% of them are really unnecessary operations, let’s talk about breast reductions.
I understand why men would be against breast reductions. However, women with overly large breast start to have painful upper back problems, sometimes as early as their late twenties. So unless you’re willing to walk around with their breasts in your hands all day …Oh, never mind.
Big V
LOL My sister was called “jugs” in high school, and wears a special bra. Her shoulders and back kill her, but she doesn’t have insurance to cover a reduction. I use to be jealous, but not anymore. I’ll take my apples over her cantalopes any day.
I’m totally with V on this one. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, dj.
Overly large breasts on tiny women can cause postural deformation, nerve damage, excruciating neck and back pain, indentations in the clavicles from bra straps, and myriad psychological issues– not the least of which is homicidal anger towards shallow-minded males with unresolved mommy complexes.
Furthermore, insurance DOESN’T pay for this operation in the vast majority of cases. It’s expensive, technically complicated, leaves significant scarring, and entails nearly a year of unpleasant recovery.
Try carrying a couple of cantaloupes around in your scrotum all day every day, and see how YOU like it.
(rant off)
ahansen
My Mother’s HMO did her breast reduction for a $100 co-pay. It was a while ago, granted.
I had one in ‘86 and another in ‘06. Both cost in the low five figures plus high four figure facility and nursing expenses. What they don’t tell you is that they grow back….
Suffice it to say that I am thoroughly perplexed by women who voluntarily elect to implant silastic sacks into their healthy chest cavities. AND PAY GOOD MONEY TO DO SO! Sheesh.
Lucky Mum! Must have had a civil service insurance policy….?
NOT a way to attract a man……. is it?
If it was emergency surgery well that’s different, but it isn’t.
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It’s expensive, technically complicated, leaves significant scarring, and entails nearly a year of unpleasant recovery.
Well, my understanding is that if you come out clean (no polyps), then it’s 10 years until the next one.
If they find benign polyps, they remove them and you come back in three years.
If they find precancerous polyps you come back the next year.
Bingo!
I got one, because the doc kept recommending due to my age…ended up paying 1500 out of pocket as routine is not covered here. d’oh
Ol’Bubba
Just had my “back door” checked the 4th qtr of 2010. Well worth the prep, but man, was the prep God awful. I was having pains and the doctor wanted to rule out the worst possible scenario.
Prep-Awful
Embarr-ass-ing
Lost 5 lbs from fasting for 3 days - hey, it was a window of opportunity (still off)
Found a small polyp- cut it out
Checked out healthy and no more guessing game. It’s one of those cancers that slow growly with few symptoms.
(I’m a lady, and found the experience easier than my fears.)
I turned out to be allergic to gluten, peanuts, and the protein in milk. Changed my diet, fixed my problem.
Get it done. It isn’t just a slogan it might save your life. It’s true. If you have insurance, consider youfself lucky, and do it. We just dropped our insurance due to the escalating premium cost. Glad I did it.
Ol’Bubba
words of wisdom, trust me: vaseline during the prep. Research preps and make the decision that will work best for you. I used a different prep than doc wanted. Same result without throwing up.
My husband calls it his “out door” LOL
palmetto -LOL
Yes, the prep is an ordeal. Coming out of the procedure, and hearing the doc say you have a bee-yoo-tee-ful bowel, is wonderful.
I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
Ol’Bubba
LOL.
Montana
I’m jealous. I’ve been told other parts of my body were “perky” but never told my bowel was beautiful. Do plastic surgeons have a procedure for that?
“Do any of you have thoughts about the value of a colonoscopy?”
I had a colonoscopy at fifty, and they found and removed a couple small polyps that were later identified as benign. Everything looked good according to the doctors. FWIW, I’m big on dietary fiber, and I also down a 20oz tumbler of water with two heaping spoonfuls of Metamucil nightly; exercise daily too.
We treadmull daily, every morning against our wills. 45 minutes to stay healthy is a small price to pay.
rms - I knew you had it together.
Caffeine and cigarrettes are far more efficient than fiber.
Best laxative coffee and ice cream or coffee and jello
I don’t remember ever buying a pack of ex-lax in my life.
Thanks to all of you for your comments. The consensus seems to be to get it done, especially if the out of pocket costs aren’t too bad.
The issue isn’t so much whether to do it as where to get it done. There are places that do it well, but it should take some time for them to carefully look at everything if they do it right.
Ask around. If someone says it took less than 5 minutes, don’t go where they went.
Think of it like a house inspection. If they just do a drive by to make sure the structure is there with a roof more or less intact, they could have missed a lot that might be wrong. If it takes a while and the inspector has some experience, you are more likely to get the information you need.
The procedure was suggested by the general surgeon who did my hernia repair. They do the colonoscopies on an outpatient basis in a facility that’s in a hospital complex.
Location less important than whether the docs who do them have been told they have x number of minutes per patient (where x is a number lower than a responsible doc would want to do a good job) and no more than x.
If you had access to the information, I’d pick the place that has the lowest profit margins in the area (assuming that the margins aren’t just because they are getting the patients with the lowest reimbursement rates).
An “old school” doc can also be of help. I had a young doc who was recommending all sorts of unhelpful stuff for some foot pain. Found an old school guy who recommended some minor stretching. The stretching is working. The new guy never even mentioned it. I don’t think he even noticed the tightness.
There is an analysis in the Washington Post today that implies (or maybe infers) that it wouldn’t be planned out in the ways I have been describing. They seem to think it would be a day by day thing. Day 1 $a are coming in and $6a dollars need to go out, so which of the $6a worth of bills get paid and which don’t. Same thing on a day by day basis until the issue is resolved.
I have no idea why they are assuming that no comprehensive plan will be implemented.
Sorry about the last one - posted in the wrong place.
“The issue isn’t so much whether to do it as where to get it done. There are places that do it well, but it should take some time for them to carefully look at everything if they do it right.”
I drove over to Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle, WA. I rented a hotel room next door to do the MoviPrep “clean-out”, and I relied on a couple of 2-liter bottles of 7UP to help start the fasting process; water only during the last 8-hours. To my surprise there were at least fifty or more people there for the same procedure. It was a real production line setting, but they spent about fifteen minutes fishing around; the fentanyl IV made the procedure comfortable, no pain. A nurse wheeled me back to my hotel room, and I was back on my feet four hours later.
Cost me $5800 deductible out of pocket with a PPO. Not at all cheap (or necessary) ???
I’ve never had one.
As far as I’m concerned, they’re a big, expensive racket. This sentiment was confirmed the last time the President of the United States had a physical. That was last year, and guess what? He had a virtual colonoscopy.
I’ll betcha that the “virtual” costs a lot less than the “dope you silly and plumb you internally” version.
Virtual colonoscopies are semi-worthless. Oh, it would pick up a big ole honkin’ tumor, but a little pre-cancerous one? Nah.
The people who really need to be conscientious about having their bowels scoped are the ones with a family history of colon cancer. We’re talking parents, grandparents and siblings.
I’m a couple of years overdue for my fourth exam. I started early due to family history. The prep last time was so nasty that I’ve been procrastinating. Maybe this conversation thread will prompt me to make that phone call and set it up.
I’m thinking of a technology that’s suggested by the book (and movie) Fantastic Voyage. Why not make the colonoscope so small that it could be swallowed? That way, you’d avoid the plumbing discomfort. Not to mention the expense.
Preps are a lot easier than you remember, Elanor. Do this.
I had one. Came down with Diverticulosis, scheduled one and got it over with. The prep really was the worst part, as that solution is seriously the nastiest thing Ive ever drank.
The actual procedure was a non-event. They found three polyps, none cancerous but two with the potential to be cancerous. Doc said to come back in three years to get another one, and I will.
My advice would be to get it done and go from there, but Im not a doctor - just another jackass using the interweb.
No big deal. Excellent drugs. If you’re 50, haven’t had one, have insurance, do it. If you don’t have insurance, do it anyway. It’s a lot cheaper than developing colon cancer.
Today is the big Capitol Hill hearing on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) will chair it. Warren will be in the hot seat for an entire day. She’s a very smart leader. I certainly hope she can keep the horde of ankle-biters at bay, and get the CFPB off the ground with full powers.
Warren’s primary focus with the CFPB is to eliminate the obfuscation in consumer contracts in the financial sector. So that consumers can know both the PRICE and the RISK of the product they’re purchasing.
It seems hard to argue with. However, there is big money in financial obfuscation. And those making money off of it have lots of hired guns. There should be fireworks today.
I hope that Warren shreds ‘em. And she’s quite capable of doing so. After all, she was known as “Socrates with a Machine Gun” at Harvard Law.
Apparently there were fireworks before the hearing, but she held her own. McHenry, the FIRE sector tool, also piped up, but managed to show a modicum of respect to Warren this time:
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/banking-financial-institutions/171509-warren-fends-off-gop-critics-at-oversight-hearing
Food prices unlikely to fall: General Mills CEO
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Higher food prices are here to stay, General Mills Inc.’s GIS -0.46% Chief Executive Ken Powell said Wednesday, adding that it was unlikely that food prices will slip into a deflationary cycle as they did last year.
“It would be highly unlikely that we’ll see price declines,” Powell said during a meeting with investors. “The long-term trends are inflationary, not deflationary. You’re going to see pricing in a significant way.”
General Mills will rely entirely on higher prices to increase its sales for fiscal 2012, as overall sales volume is expected to fall. Last month, the company issued its outlook, which sees revenue rising in the mid-single digits.
General Mills warned that rising costs for ingredients and fuel will hurt earnings for the fiscal year, with the pain most acute in the current quarter. The company is raising prices to offset some of those higher costs, and is also counting on new products to continue to keep customers interested.
I thought food prices were supposed to be “volatile”. I guess the new definition for volatile is “always goes up”.
He’s just saying that to convince people not to sell out of their General Mills shares. First he says that last year was food deflation. Then he says that all signs are inflationary for this year. What changed from last year to this year? Looming defaults? That’s not inflationary.
People in this country do not HAVE to buy processed foods. They’ve been doing it for years because it’s so cheap. If it gets expensive, then they will suddenly gain the superhuman ability to cook food from scratch.
I understand what you are saying, but raw ingredients, at least in my neck of the woods, are also up, especially fruits and veggies. What used to cost $1/lb now can cost as much as $2 (I only buy whatever is on sale).
I am thinking of pulling the old bread machine out of the basement. It was a gift a long time ago and at first it was fun, until the novelty wore off. Maybe its time to have some fun again.
I bought an avocado for a salad the other day…$2 for some piddly excuse of an avocado. Shocking.
I only buy avocados when they’re on sale. The usual price is 1.50 - 2.
Like I’ve been saying all along: “Stagflation, it’s what’s for breakfast”
The truth is that they don’t want to include food in the CPI regardless of the volatility argument.
If they were truly solely afraid of the volatility of energy and food, they would use a moving average as opposed to a point in time to go into the basket of goods.
A 2-year moving average? 4-year moving average?
I’m sure there are some math professors that could determine what the length of the moving average would need to be in order to reduce the volatility of the measure to the typical volatility of other pieces of the basket of goods….before lunch.
“…overall sales volume is expected to fall.”
This is a sign of deflation, not inflation.
Price your product where ever you want, but if people do not have the money to buy then your sales volume will fall off.
Price your product high enough and your sales volume will go to zero.
People have to eat. I’ve lived in a high inflation society my friend. Prices didn’t fall simply because people consumed less. In fact, they kept going up.
I know the textbooks say that less demand leads to lower prices, but I saw with my own eyes that it didn’t always work that way. People did without and prices kept rising.
Yeah, but you said yourself that wages were rising too. That isn’t happening here and it won’t because of all those noncitizen workers.
But wages weren’t keeping pace with inflation, not even close. The only reason the masses didn’t starve were gov’t subsidies for beans and tortillas. It’s also why it only costs 20 US cents to ride the very modern subway.
Prices at “el super” were another story. They would literally rise between stock up trips to the store.
I left Mexico in 1982. My family’s standard of living was clobbered big time as I was leaving. My wife and I visited in 87, and it wasn’t pretty. And not just my family. The dollar/peso exchange rate at the time was horrific (for Mexicans). Our dollar buying power was fantastic.
“But wages weren’t keeping pace with inflation, not even close.”
And hasn’t for 30 YEARS.
Combo, I lived through the stagflation of the 1970s.
It’s called “stagflation” for a reason, the biggest being that prices DO NOT HAVE TO drop just because sales are low.
In fact, voodoo, er “supply side” economics dictate that you RAISE prices because sales are low.
This has been the economic cornerstone of this country for the last 30 years.
Crazy? You know it. So what? Not until we have utter disaster will this change.
Last year? I saw 50%+ costs increases at the grocery store last year!
Say isn’t food one of those “volatile” items not found in the CPI? So I guess it’s just imaginary money I pay for for it with, right?
I was reading The Economist, and saw an interesting quote, which rung true: “Reforms will happen - after the whole system collapses.”
Especially, when there’s big money in not reforming the system. This is one massive obstacle to real reform.
“Reforms will happen - after the whole system collapses.”
Yep, That’s it in a nut shell, the system will collapse at some point and the rebuilding will start. It will not be without some pain though.
“It will not be without some pain though.”
SOME pain?
Lol. There will be a LOT of pain, as in hand-on-a-hot-stove type of pain.
But apparantly pain is what it will take to correct the imbalances since nothing else seems to work.
“Lol. There will be a LOT of pain, as in hand-on-a-hot-stove type of pain”.
The level of “pain” depends on a persons situation. For those that spent like there was no tomorrow and saved nothing. Then yes it will hurt like a SOB. Then there are those that have watched this storm brewing for years and battened down their hatches, it will be far less painful them.
wmbz
While I generally agree, I see the “needs” being inflationary, and the “wants” being deflationary. That’s what scares me. The USD will continue to become worthless, and our standard of living will continue to tank.
We have no debt, have cash to pay for a home, and a little socked away, but I am very concerned about this controlled collapse finally collapsing. I don’t suffer from catastrophic expectations. My eyes are wide open.
The USD will continue to become worthless, and our standard of living will continue to tank.
It won’t matter much how prudent and living within your means you were. I saw first hand how “la crisis” clobbered the Mexican middle class. People were scrambling to survive. And boy did the standard of living collapse for the middle class. That was when my brother finally decided to get the hell out of dodge. His employer (a large mining company) transferred him to a small US brach office. The pay sucked by US standards but he felt as if he had died and gone to heaven. He lived at home with my mom (the house was paid for) and he couldn’t afford a car on his Mexican white collar salary.
“The level of “pain” depends on a persons situation. For those that spent like there was no tomorrow and saved nothing. Then yes it will hurt like a SOB. Then there are those that have watched this storm brewing for years and battened down their hatches, it will be far less painful them.”
I suspect the pain will be felt first by the less prudent. But the prudent won’t be immune. Many prudent, middle class folks will find themselves impoverished. Anyone who is dependent on a steady income is at risk. A few years of unemployment will do it for most people. Those who will do the best will have a paid off house with a little land in a low tax, stable area with a good climate. And even some of those folks will lose everything. Pensions, savings, Social Security, and investments can be quickly depleted, inflated away, or defaulted on.
Some of the wealthy will also make wrong moves and find themselves broke. These are the folks most likely to jump off buildings.
This reminds me of the economic crisis Mexico went throughin the 80’s.
First they cranked up the printing presses in the 70’s and inflation started to heat up. This happened in part because the wealthy didn’t want to pay taxes and PEMEX could only provide so much revenue to the Mexican Fed Gov. While inflation was high, middle class wages kept pace with inflation, and the minimum wage was constantly increased for the poor and food subsidies for basics like tortillas and beans kept those prices down.
Then came the oil bust and PEMEX’s exports tumbled and hard currency revenue collapsed (early 80’s). This was when the poop really hit the fan and Mexico was forced into taking severe austerity measures. By the time inflation was tamed the peso went from 12.5 to a dollar to about 10,000 pesos to a dollar. The crisis was one of the reasons for the beginning of the “Mexodus” to the USA.
Like I’ve been saying all along: “Visualize economic collapse”
cues up Guided by Voices’ album “Do The Collapse”
Detroit
Is gold money?
Dr. Bernanke answered incorrectly.
“Is gold money?” Rep. Ron Paul put the question to Fed Chief Ben Bernanke on Wednesday. .
“No. It’s a precious metal,” responded Bernanke - somewhat irritated.
After Paul interrupted him to mention the long history of gold being used as money, Bernanke said ”It’s an asset. Would you say Treasury bills are money? I don’t think they’re money, either, but they’re a financial asset.”
Bernanke is correct to say Treasury bills are not money. They are a record of debt…paper promises. The holder of these IOUs does, indeed, consider them financial assets.
But Bernanke just wasn’t thinking clearly when he lumped Treasury bills and gold together. While the bill is evidence of debt the physical gold is not. It is a thing of value - not a promise by anyone, nor a debt of any kind. It has been a respected medium of exchange and measure of value for millennia. Also, it meets Webster’s definition of money; “. . .gold, silver, or other metal in pieces of convenient form stamped by public authority and issued as a medium of exchange and measure of value.”
Webster’s unabridged dictionary also defines money as; “Any circulating medium of exchange, including coins, paper money, and demand deposits.”
The U.S. Mint makes gold and silver coins. They aren’t used in daily commerce because the intrinsic value of the coins far exceeds the nominal value engraved on them.
“Money” can be anything people use as media of exchange. Everything from cowry shells to cigarettes have served as money through the ages. Gold and silver coin have had the best track record over the longest period of time. So say the historians who’ve looked into the record..
Dr. Bernanke’s answer to Rep. Ron Paul should have been, “Yes - gold is commodity money.”
Until the 20th century it was generally understood that money was something of actual value. . .that is, gold and silver coin. Paper currency of various types was widely circulated with the promise of redemption in actual money. Eventually the paper notes took on the character of money, itself.
If the definition of money is fiats issued by a central bank, then he’s right. As for which one is more desireable right now…
It must be pretty annoying for Bernanke to have to sit for this nonsense. Yes, gold is “money”, in the same sense that cattle, bananas, scrap iron, ocean liners, and dirt are money.
“It must be pretty annoying for Bernanke to have to sit for this nonsense”.
“Nonsense”, that’s funny! That is surely the common thought among the majority. It’s all nonsense, now let Mr. Bernake get down to the serious business of printing and bailing!
Funny how the banksters are glad to seize “cattle, bananas, scrap iron, ocean liners, and dirt” when we can’t pay them back their fiats. Why don’t we make our own fiats to pay them back?
Gold is an actual good.
Debt products are virtual products - legal and/or logical constructs. In this case a promise to pay.
People ultimately seek to obtain cash/currency for virtual products.
But the value of gold as a “good” is not anywhere close to its market value. It’s only money if people think of it as money. Same thing with every other form of currency (such as houses, back in the day).
“Gold is an actual good.”
The gold cult faith inspires a plethora of meaningless pronouncements.
But for the record, you can’t eat gold, you can’t live in gold, you can’t drive in gold, and if there is some useful purpose which gold serves aside from providing a store of value (which is what assets do), please enlighten me.
If you don’t enjoy staring at shiny yellow metal, or thinking how rich owning it is going to make you, it seems that gold does not meet the definition of an economic good.
I was just trying to separate the separate the concept of virtual products (legal/logical constructs) from actual physical things. I may have used the term “good” incorrectly.
I personally am not a gold cultist. It’s probably worth having some if the S really HTFs. But at that point, it would also be equally or more important to have a defensible domicile and ammunition. Because likely the basic necessities would be more in demand than gold.
In a hyperinflationary environment? I would think perhaps the currency of another country would likely hold sway, as the value in terms of the basic necessities would be more easily identified in a foreign currency rather than gold.
There’s a high demand for it, but IMHO, it also has some semblance to a tulip bulb.
Bernanke would not know money if it bonked him on his bald head. He just knows keyboard zeros.
“The gold standard is, in a phrase, a system of gold price fixing by the government. It favored creditors who benefit when the unit of debt repayment gets stronger. This was replaced by a system of government bond price fixing, which favors creditors if the central bank succeeds at keeping the unit of debt repayment strong and adds the special favor of interest income on reserves. History will teach us again which system works better for the American people.” - eric janszen - itulip.com
perhaps this is why bernanke sees gold and treasuries as the same thing.
“But Bernanke just wasn’t thinking clearly when he lumped Treasury bills and gold together.”
He said they are both assets. Is this a controversial statement in your universe?
Oh, sorry — I forgot that gold is special.
‘Dr. Bernanke’s answer to Rep. Ron Paul should have been, “Yes - gold is commodity money.”’
Thanks for sharing your crackpot theories. The day I see people paying for groceries with gold coin, I will buy this.
Is gold money?
The US dollar is backed by squat and the Swiss Franc was still backed by about 20% in gold reserves as of 2005.
In 10 years gold has appreciated 493% in US dollars but only 173% against the Swiss Franc.
Is gold money?
http://www.kitco.com/gold_currency/charts.htm?CHF
The Swiss franc has historically been considered a safe-haven currency with virtually zero inflation and a legal requirement that a minimum of 40% be backed by gold reserves.[9] However, this link to gold, which dates from the 1920s, was terminated on 1 May 2000 following a referendum.[10] By March 2005, following a gold selling program, the Swiss National Bank held 1,290 tonnes of gold in reserves which equated to 20% of its assets wiki
Weekly Claims Finally Show Decline in Weak Jobs Market
14 Jul 2011 By: AP
The Labor Department says that weekly applications dropped 22,000 to a seasonally adjusted 405,000, the lowest level in almost three months.
The government says the total was increased by 11,500 state workers from Minnesota, who have filed applications because of that state’s government shutdown.
Even with last week’s decline, applications have now topped 400,000 for 14 weeks, evidence that the job market has weakened since earlier this year.
Applications had fallen in February to 375,000, a level that signals healthy job growth. They stayed below 400,000 for two months, then surged to an eight-month high of 478,000 in April and have declined slowly since then.
“Applications had fallen in February to 375,000, a level that signals healthy job growth.”
I love math. Math can be fun.
Unemployment application levels in February drop to 375,000 and these numbers are seen as a sign of healthy job growth.
These are weekly applications, not initial applications.
I wonder how many dropped off because they went past being 99-ers.
OX:
Keep up with the e99′ers here..some really sad and scary stuff going on:
http://www.unemployed-friends2.org/
A quick google shows that about 6 million people are receiving some form of unemployment benefits.
The 400K number is new applicants.
Applications had fallen in February to 375,000, a level that signals healthy job growth
I seem to recall that the threshold for “healthy growth” was around 200K. So now we are being told that a very sickly 375K is a “good number”.
This feels like 1984. Orwell would be proud of his prescience.
Wasn’t last week a holiday week with only 4 days? Do they account for this in their numbers?
Good point.
Short answer: Nope.
whoop. de. do.
Fail everywhere….. What’s new, pcat?
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President Obama has failed to live up to the expectations he created in the Arab world, according to a new poll released by Zogby International and the Arab American Institute Foundation. The poll also noted that most Arab countries view the U.S. less favorably today than they did during the last year of the Bush administration.
When President Bush left office, 9 percent of Egyptians had a favorable attitude towards the United States. After Barack Obama was elected, that number jumped to 30 percent. But today, only 5 percent of Egyptians surveyed said they have a favorable opinion of the United States and its president. Similar figures in Morocco, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates illustrate that the initial optimism in the region has been eclipsed by a widespread sense of disappointment.
“President Obama did not create the problems, but he created the expectation that the problems would be solved,” said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.
“He sent a number of signals early on that U.S. policy would change: in his inauguration speech, in his al-Arabiya interview, and in his appointment of [former Senate Majority Leader] George Mitchell as special envoy,” said Zogby. “By the time of his speech in Cairo, the favorable ratings of the U.S. were at their highest ever.”
But figures from six Arab nations tell the same story: People in the Arab world are frustrated by the lack of follow-up. “You get credit for trying after 100 days, but after two years you don’t get credit for trying; you get credit for producing, and the production isn’t there,” Zogby said.
“I’m not faulting the president. He didn’t get a magic wand when he took office,” Zogby said. “Instead, he got a shovel to get out of a deep hole. Every one of the issues that he’s inherited has been more difficult than he or anyone else expected.”
Aaron David Miller, a public policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center, said that the results reflect a fundamental “clash of interests” between the United States and countries in the region, calling the results “a very old story, which Zogby has simply brought up to date.”
“The fact is that there is a huge disconnect between what we believe is the right approach in the region and what many of the people who live there believe is the right approach,” Miller said.
“The bottom line is that Arabs expect a fundamental change in policy, but that change will not be forthcoming. And therefore the story of the United States in this region is going to continue to be difficult, to say the least.”
Every once in a while I like to float a far-out scenario. Has anyone been following Leon Panetta? If TSHTF, there will be no 2012 election.
However, ladeez and gennelmen, I give you the first Godfather of the US, Leon Panetta!
He’s one tough SOB. Assuming that OBL really was still alive over in Pockeestahn, Leon Panetta is the reason why he was nailed. Believe it. He gave the order. Over Obama/Valerie Jarrett’s indecision.
lil Opie (non-Hawaiian) + (non-Commandeer-in-Chief) + (non-I’m-the-Decider!) + (non-titanium spine)
heheeeheeeheehaahaaahaaheeehaahaaa… (Hwy50™)
Obama said:
Hey, Airreek Can’torwillknot: “enough is enough,”
I’m rusty on foreign affairs these days. But in the past, anytime America tried to do something, protestors marched around with signs that say “death to America.” And now that Obama is not doing all that much, they are still complaining.
So, what policy do the Egyptians want from Obama? Besides more pallets of money and/or American guns and/or American support for their tribal leader du jour.
Hmmmm, you seem to very personally attached to hope that our President will fail. It’s not so much that he is failing to achieve the best possible scenario given the circumstances, it’s just that he is failing to achieve the impossible hopes and dreams of a lot of really unrealistic people. Who on Earth could do that?
I agree, but he himself has hardly been realistic about his own limitations. But, I’d probably be the same way if I was getting peace prizes while bombing the crap out of nations where we have no business being.
I don’t want him to fail, but he’s already gone down and doesn’t even know it. His turning point was the day they got OBL (assuming it was, in fact, OBL, but let’s assume it was) He belayed the order to go in. Panetta countermanded that order, pulled him off the golf course into the situation room and told him it was a done deal. Obama was bypassed. And from that point on, unless he takes his power back, he’s toast. But, instead, Panetta goes from head of CIA (an interim post, really) to head of DOD.
Obama is now nothing more than a puppet dangling on strings and I think the general public knows it. His nasty little dig about how he “can’t guarantee that Social Security checks will go out” if the debt ceiling isn’t raised showed him for a complete and utter ass.
Who the hell borrows more money when they can’t pay what’s already owed? A forckin’ iddjit, that’s who. So the debt ceiling gets raised and then what? Just more “austerity” when the inevitable default arrives. For the benefit of central banks who will take hard assets in exchange for their thin-air bogus funny money.
Who the hell borrows more money when they can’t pay what’s already owed?
Apparently most of the industrialized world.
The more I think about this the more depressed I get (call pfizer!). Seeing the two trains barrelling down the tracks at each other, even if the eventual crash is years away, is unsettling. The aftermath will be horrific and possibly result in global wars as new despots wil rise to address the economic calamity.
My father-in-law is a German national who served in WW2. When I asked him why Germany loved Hitler he said it was because he cleaned up the Weimar mess and got everyone back to work and prosperity soon followed. He did admit that Germans fell for the “master race” crap, but that in the early days conquering the world was the last thing they thought about.
What is the way out of debt?
Create inflation, and try like hell to obfuscate the true amount of inflation.
Let’s hope the the Frankinflation monster is a friendly overlord that won’t survive long…
“I’d probably be the same way if I was getting peace prizes while bombing the crap out of nations where we have no business being.”
i wouldn’t accept a piece prize while i was bombing the crap out of nations where we have no business being.
That’s quite the tin foil ball you got there. How did you manage to get into Obama’s and Panetta’s minds?
I didn’t get into their minds, there was one of those “insider” reports that came out shortly after the OBL taradiddle. A blow by blow about how the upper echelon government officials would have Obama’s agreement and then he would go back and talk to Valerie Jarrett who didn’t want him to do it, so he’d belay, then they’d talk him into it again and he’d give the order, then talk to Valerie Jarrett again and belay.
Panetta got tired of it and said fockit, we’re going in. Apparently he gave the final order after Obama belayed and went off for a round of golf which was so rudely interrupted when they brought him back to see the operation already in progress. Hence, the strange look on Obama’s face in the situation room photo.
Made sense to me.
Webster Tarpley seems to get into anybody’s mind.
The bankstas are in charge now Palmie. Not even Superbama can change that. Only voters can.
Not even the voters can change it. The Bankstas answer to no one except the 4 Horsemen.
You’re right, and if anything it’s a poor reflection on the electorate. I’m already shaking to see what the voters glom onto the next time they change teams.
The electorate thinks they’re in the stands, when in reality they’re the football.
I knew he would fail in most areas but I was secretely hoping for he would be better in not bombing these people.
What Egyptians want?
How about not bombing their fellow brothers in Pakistan/Afghanistan/Libya? Can we at least start with that?
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117313948379987.html
Big Pharma and the psychiatric profession teaming up to push anti-psychotic medications on the citizenry. On the other hand we do seem to have an overage of crazy people.
http://www.debka.com/article/21115/
Looks like the US and NATO are throwing in the towel on the Libya war. Not sure what’s worse: starting this war in the first place or leaving a vengeful Gadaffi in power.
On June 30, President Nicolas Sarkozy ordered weapons to be parachuted to the tribal fighters in western Libya, contrary to UN and NATO decisions. But the Berbers preferred to use the French guns for plundering towns and villages instead of fighting government forces.
How about revolutionaries who don’t seem to be terribly interested in actually revolting?
I guess with the NATO powers suddenly realizing that they are flat broke they have no other choice. Like a broke guy kicking the tires at the local car dealer, who then gets back into his clunker and drives away.
Someone here recently said a buyer had to walk from a deal because something with the closing was going to cost more than they thought and they were buying on fumes. I guess we started a war on fumes. Doesn’t seem like this was thought out very well.
“debkafile’s military sources reported that NATO was short of warplanes for enforcing the no- fly zone over Libyan air space approved by the UN Security Council, its arsenals of smart bombs and missiles were depleted and its stocks of munitions and replacement parts almost down to zero.
This has now been confirmed by the British defense secretary, who added that British and European military industries lack the capacity for supporting a war effort that goes beyond a few weeks.”
What’s worse?
A. starting this war in the first place
B. or leaving a vengeful Gadaffi in power
C. all of the above
I`m going with C
Debka? What next, the WorldNetDaily? (oh wait, they’re partners aren’t they?)
wikipedia
Wired.com’s Noah Shachtman wrote in 2001 that the site [Debka] “clearly reports with a point of view; the site is unabashedly in the hawkish camp of Israeli politics,” adding that Debka had partnered with the right-wing news site WorldNetDaily for a weekly subscription product.[3] Yediot Achronot investigative reporter Ronen Bergman states that the site relies on information from sources with an agenda, such as neo-conservative elements of the US Republican Party, “whose worldview is that the situation is bad and is only going to get worse,” and that Israeli intelligence officials do not consider even 10 percent of the site’s content to be reliable.[1] Cornell Law professor Michael C. Dorf calls Debka his “favorite alarmist Israeli website trading in rumors.”[4]
Is Ben Bernanke A Liar Or Totally Incompetent?
The Economic Collapse
Feb 10, 2011
Bernanke’s track record of failure is absolutely stunning. Before discussing some of his most recent comments, let’s review some of the pearls of wisdom that Bernanke has shared with us in recent years….
2005: “House prices have risen by nearly 25 percent over the past two years. Although speculative activity has increased in some areas, at a national level these price increases largely reflect strong economic fundamentals.”
2005: “We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis. So, what I think what is more likely is that house prices will slow, maybe stabilize, might slow consumption spending a bit. I don’t think it’s gonna drive the economy too far from its full employment path, though.”
2006: “Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.”
2007: “At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”
2007: “It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.”
2008: “The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”
http://therealnewsjournal.com/?p=5755 - 29k -
Sounds like he has inherited Sir Greenis$pent’s “frothy conundrum$”
($till MIA: “The-Box-Index”!)
we were already in a recession when he was saying they do not forcast one…crazy he is still there.
We are going to bull$hit our way to prosperity. This is America.
I can Tweet/Digg/Facebook/MySpace/LinkedIn/delicious/Google Buzz/MyLife/Orkut/Tumblr relate to that.
“Is Ben Bernanke A Liar Or Totally Incompetent?”
Much of what he says seems designed to lean against a collectively rational interpretation of fundamentals which could result in all-out economic collapse.
Whether he himself believes what he says is another question…
Fed Chairmen are Liars
Seriously, I doubt that he really believed half of what he said, since half of his job is simply making sure that people don’t collectively freak out over economic events/circumstances.
Half?
Borders on Brink of Liquidation -WSJ
Borders Group Inc. stood on the brink of liquidation after a recent offer for the bookstore chain from a private-equity investor fell apart late Wednesday.
Borders, which employs nearly 11,000 people, designated a group of liquidators as the opening bidders in a looming bankruptcy-court auction amid difficulties getting publishers to relax terms under which they ship merchandise to the U.S.’s second-largest bookstore chain, said people familiar with the matter.
The development raises the prospect that Borders will soon close all its remaining 399 stores and go out of business. No other suitors have so far emerged for Borders ahead of a Sunday bidding deadline.
Borders’s deal with the investor, Jahm Najafi, unraveled Wednesday after publishers and landlords owed money from the company complained that his bid would allow him to liquidate the bookstore chain after buying the business.
The first Borders opened in Ann Arbor when I was a student at UofM. There had never been anything like it.
The one within walking distance of my house now sits empty. I miss it. I’ll be missing it for a long time to come, especially in the bleak midwinter on Sunday afternoons. Sigh.
The first Borders opened in Ann Arbor when I was a student at UofM. There had never been anything like it.
Agreed!
It was an absolutely fabulous place to take a study break. It was full of non-textbooks that were actually fun to read. Even better, there was lovely classical music playing the background, and oh, I could have stayed there all day.
I miss that place. Even though I didn’t buy much there, my parents sure made up the difference when they came to town.
A Blockbuster store on my route must have closed just last night, becuase the letters have been ripped off the the facade this morning - but just Tuesday morning I saw a customer drop his video into the drop slot.
It leaves a gaping hole in its strip mall. I wonder what will fill it? A methadone clinic maybe? Nah, there’s already one across the street and another a few blcoks down.
I haven’t set foot in a video rental place in years. Part of the problem is that there’s nothing worth watching. The recall the last time I was in there and I perused the “newer releases” section. I amount of dreck that is produced is astounding. For every “King’s Speech” there’s 50 “Porky’s” type movies.
That’s why I’m drawn to Anime and some Sci-Fi, probably the only two “honest” genres still out there. You’re familiar with both, so you understand.
BTW, forgot to mention that a few months back we went to the big Anime convention here. It was a blast, the genre seems more popular than ever - it warmed my heart to see so many having so much fun. Happy stuff for tough times.
That’s why I’m drawn to Anime and some Sci-Fi
You too? I think Cowboy Bebop is better than most emmy winning shows.
Then there’s stuff like Sekirei. The one thing I learned from that show is that the Japanese have some serious “boob envy” towards the west.
How much real “sci-fi” is still being published?
I go to the SF shelves in my bookstores and library and once I filter out all the wizards, barbarian swordsmen, dragons, vampires, zombies, vampire/zombie/wizard crossovers, $30 comic books… oops “graphic novels”, TV spinoffs, comic book spinoffs, and movie spinoffs, there ain’t much left over.
Is there any decent new Science Fiction coming out now? I hope there is and I’ve just missed it. I like some of Harry Turtledove’s book but not all.There is only so much alternate history I can take at a time.
There has been a lot of good new sci fi published in the last 10 years.
The list is so long I can’t remember the names.
Here’s just a handful:
Allen Steele
Nancy Kress
Alastaire Reynolds
David Weber
Elizabeth Moon
Each have more than 5 books apiece in the last ten years. each cover a totally different aspect of sci fi. Hard sci fi. The old school kind.
Ecofeco—-Thanks for the recommendations. i like Weber pretty well but Didn’t care for what I read by Elizabeth Moon. I’ll give her another try though. I may have just gotten the one w
thing she wrote that I wouldn’t like. I’ve never heard of the first three, but I will look for them.
I admit i was floored yesterday when all the HBB’ers chimed to comment on how many movies they watched each month, and read how many millions of people watched dozens of videos both streaming and DVD. And they have time to watch TV shows too…
You can watch movies or you can live your life. I prefer the latter.
Ezcept for Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Sherlock, we mainly use video as background. Our oldest daugher is the big movie fan in the family. I prefer to reas when I can find something I like.
I can’t warm up to the new Doctor. I don’t know what it is, but I just don’t like him,
I find Matt Smith to be a little young. But I loved the episode with Van Gogh, possibly because I really like his work. Of the 4 of the family currently here, we are split down the middle. My son and I prefer the old school doctors, especially Tom Baker. My husband and oldest daughter prefer the new run. For my husband, I think it’s because he’s the earlier work so often. For daughter, I think it’s partly because she really likes the work of a couple of the writers. The other two girls aren’t big fans of the Doctor but prefer other genres that we also like.
On a related. oldest daughter and sons visited the 2nd daughter and her husband a few weeks ago. They all went to see the latest XMen movie. Coming out the husband made some comment about Sebastain Shaw being created for the movie. Second daughter said, “Don’t talk about things you don’t know, dear.” Obviously while extremely smart he is not the XMen fan she is. In fact when she moved out, she took a lot of our XMen comic books with her. That’s fine with us. We’ve given the comic books the kids want to them anyway. My husband has a few favorites that he won’t part with yet. As do I. Mine are almost anything by Stever Ditko, the Longbow series of the ’08’s with Green Aroow and Black Canary, and the first run of Mage. Secondary would be Rip Hunter Time Master and Judge Dredd.
In western U.S., new hires fall 10 percent in May 2011, layoffs rise
Denver Economy Examiner
The number of new hires in the U.S. West, which includes Colorado, fell 10 percent, year-over-year from May 2010 to May 2011, as layoffs increased 17 percent during the same period.
According to the latest Job Openings and Labor Turnover report, released Tuesday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the West region’s labor markets performed more poorly than the U.S. overall. The number of new hires in the U.S. fell 4.5 percent from May 2010 to May 2011. During the same period, layoffs fell 1.3 percent for the U.S. During the same period.
The magnitude of the year-over-year declines in new hires was impacted at least partially by the hiring of Census workers during Springs 2010.
My oldest daughter was one of those census workers. She was sad when the gig ended. It only lasted about 3 months.
Good thing leadership is not our problem now.
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
His stance at that time was a luxury made possible by the masking effect of more “prosperous” times.
Now watch the little technocrats scramble as their wonderous machine sputters. Adding oil here, adding oil there, adding oil where ever the owner’s manual (their resident academia) tells them to add it.
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.”
Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs
Blocking up the scenery, breakin’ my mind
Do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign
“Increasing America’s debt weakens us dome$tically and internationally…Instead,
WashingtonCheney-$hrub is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the back$ of our children and grandchildren”Investing / Forbes / Jul. 12 2011
A Country in Denial About Taxes
“Back in the olden days, we acknowledged that wars cost money and didn’t think that our children should pay the entire cost, with interest. (Imagine that!) There were huge tax increases to finance World War II and the Korean War, and fairly significant ones to pay for Vietnam.”
$1.5 Trillion$+ …$700 Billion$…per year!…$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Cheney-$hrub 8 year Amex Charge$: Mi$$ion Accompli$hed!
A Country in Denial About Taxes:
Leonard Burman The Impertinent Economist
Investing / Forbes / Jul. 12 2011
Is Germany going to cave in on its insistence that private investors take some of the hit from the Greek financial debacle? Did President Obama calm down after walking out of the latest debt ceiling meeting?
As for the Obama walkout….this evens the score, doesn’t it. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor walked out of a meeting. Now, a frustrated president has done it. What next? Apparently the key players will be called to a weekend meeting at Camp David. If a deal isn’t struck before July 22 a substance will hit the fan that will be extremely untidy.
The hardest thing of all is to raise the debt ceiling in a way both sides can claim victory “for the American people.”
As for the Obama walkout….this evens the score, doesn’t it. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor walked out of a meeting. Now, a frustrated president has done it. What next?
A walkout by all of those American workers who’ve seen their incomes go flat or decline in recent years?
I personally know 4 people at 3+ YEARS.
Painful stretch: Florida foreclosures grow lengthier
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:34 a.m. Thursday, May 12, 2011
The length of time from initial court filing to bank repossession in Florida - 619 days - is significantly higher than the national average of 400, according to a foreclosure report released today by Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac. The national average in 2007 was 151 days.
Rent free, as free as the wind blows
As free as the grass grows
Default and follow your heart
Live free and beauty surrounds you
The world still astounds you
Two years and counting so far
Stay free, don`t care if you`re laid off
Stupidity paid off
Because you bought in 05
Don`t pay, and life is worth living
But only worth living
’cause you’re rent free
Housing “hasn’t bottomed out as quickly as we expected,” President Barack Obama said at a White House town hall last week. Mr. Obama said housing remained the “most stubborn” problem facing the country and conceded that a raft of federal mortgage-aid programs were “not enough, and so we’re going back to the drawing board.”
Mr. Obama said housing remained the “most stubborn” problem facing the country and conceded that a raft of federal mortgage-aid programs were “not enough, and so we’re going back to the drawing board.”
Oh they’ll keep going back to the drawing board, meanwhile the bus heads for the wall.
“sigh”
I guess they’ve given up on jobs.
Like they have choice when the Repubs blocked ending tax breaks for offshoring jobs and the voter gave the Repubs more power?
You can not fix that kind of stupid.
You can’t.
Sarah doesn’t trust Obama
Neither do I.
Which one RogerTangoCharlie?
$arah the “TrueBarracuda™”
$arah the “TrueMaverick™”
$arah the “TrueRogue™”
$arah the “TruePurity™”
$arah the “TruePathtoProsperity™”
ChaChing$!…ChaChing$!…ChaChing$!
“Money for the nothin’ and her word$ for fee$!”
That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Money for nothin’ and her word$ for fee$
Now that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Lemme tell ya, guys $he ain’t dumb
Maybe get a blister on her little lip
Maybe get a blister on her little tongue
Sarah Palin isn’t known for her political savvy or wisdom. She is known for talking out of her *** about anything she does NOT know about. She cares about making money and getting attention. She will say anything she thinks will make her money and keep her in the public eye. Therefore, she will repeat any Fox News talking points or evangelical talking points like a parrot on crack.
She has other (literate) people who write her facebook page posts for her.
She does not have a mind, ethics or conscience of her own. Who cares what she “thinks”?
Why embarass yourself with a post like that?
inCA-
As a recovered Republican, now a Political Atheist, your post was well stated.
Agree about Palin.
Same can be said about the guy who reads from a teleprompter.
Which guy would that be? Reagan? Both Bushes? Brian Williams? That guy in the commercial who reads off the side effects of *ahem* the drug you take in those bathtubs on the beach?
Reads from a teleprompter…
Isn’t that it’s intended use? Although I’m pretty sure writing words on your hand and then reading from it is not.
I’m going to take a class in storytelling this fall. Sometime after that, I’m going to learn how to speak in a broadcast setting by taking my beloved KXCI community radio station’s deejay course.
If things go well on the Slim as a Public Speaker front, I too will have to learn how to use a teleprompter. One of the books in my personal library, Lillian Brown’s Your Public Best, has a good intro to this topic.
Will let everyone know how this goes. I’ll be performing in a storytelling evening in September. Am writing the script for that now. No prompters allowed. I need to memorize it and rehearse my act.
i’m not embarrassed for myself, i am embarrassed for all of you name calling liberals.
Sorry CharlieRogerTango, these are $arah’s Moose shootin $elf-Adhesive/ $elf-Applied “terms-of-endearment” labels.
$arah the “TrueBarracuda™”
$arah the “TrueMaverick™”
$arah the “TrueRogue™”
$arah the “TruePurity™”
$arah the “TruePathtoProsperity™”
You liberals should lay off CharlieTango. But I’m with you Charlie. What Sarah Palin thinks matters a lot. (because she’s hot)
What she thinks will matter a lot more when you guys end up getting her elected.
Name calling liberals?
Ever listen to Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin or read Michelle Malkin?
They put all the name callers here to shame.
“i’m not embarrassed for myself, i am embarrassed for all of you name calling liberals.”
Boohoo look at me… we conservatives are soooo righteous and pure… lmao….
Playing the victim card won’t work anymore “Charlie”.
Are you talking about Sarah Palin, the moose disguised as a joke of a vice-presidential candidate? Seriously, the woman is not really a candidate Charlie.
You know you’re doomed when a Fox Noise commentator says “the woman is an idiot”.
End of the debt cycle
A similar picture in EURO-land and the US. For many decades the amount of money has been growing exponentially. All of this money demands interest which has to be satisfied in large part from productive labor. Productive labor is in a large part dependent on natural resources, food and energy, all of which are finte on a finite planet. These resources take larger and larger effort to extract as you can see in the ever rising price of various commodities.
It is an absolut mathematical certainty that exponential growth can not continue in a finite world/universe. The exact timing of the collapse is difficult to predict since various money printing and accounting tricks can hide the obvious for quite some time. Looking at all the evidence I can see today we’re are running out of accounting tricks within the not too distant future. If history is any guide, typically what follows is a time of great uncertainty and great conflict.
Personally I had the benefit to talk to some of my older realtives when they were still alive in the 1970s in Germany. Born around 1900 they lived through those “uncertain times”. One thing I gathered was, that not all was good in the good ole days.
“The exact timing of the collapse is difficult to predict since various money printing and accounting tricks can hide the obvious for quite some time.”
Yes, but hiding paper losses is one thing, hiding idle populations (especially youthful ones) is quite another. And the U.S. is far from the only country with that problem.
You have to buy the idle population off with various welfare programs. That keeps them quiet. Once you run out of cash to keep those programs in place better call up the national guard and/or secret police. I wonder who will bomb our troops once they are used to “control” out own population? Maybe the Chinese?
/sarcasm off
It is an absolut mathematical certainty that exponential growth can not continue in a finite world/universe.
And yet this is the cornerstone of capitalism, which is looking just as unsustainable as communism.
I do not believe that exponential growth is the cornerstone of capitalism. It is not necessary for capitalism to work, although it is necessary for certain ponzi schemes to function.
How about “the Wall St. version of capitalism”?
It is an absolut mathematical certainty that exponential growth can not continue in a finite world/universe.
OXYMORON ALERT!
(let me know when we live in that “finite” universe)
End of the debt cycle
the housing bubble was just a symtom of the debt super cycle
I wonder if growth slows it will be harder to make money off the labor of US workers, like charging interest or gouging on commodity prices?
This will be bad news for banks . They will lend to faster growing economies exporting inflation and making money like they used to here in the US, off young labor in third world countries
As the Banks move on the medical companies will move in to the US and take whats left of the older dying US workers.
Anybody noticed? Obama is getting some gray hair. I didn’t notice those when he ran for office.
Looking at before and after pictures, many presidents aged beyond their years while beeing in office.
He has a LOT of gray hair, and it showed up relatively quickly.
Look at the before/after of Clinton and Bush Jr. I wonder how much these guys know (and when) that the public doesn’t know (and never will). To that extent, no matter how much I like (or hate) a certain president, I have always tried to give the benefit of the doubt on decisions with which I disagreed. Going into Iraq was one of those decisions that I disagreed with (vehemently at the time), but still leave open the possibility that Bush knew things (or thought he knew things) that made that the best decision at that moment.
Not taking Simpson/Bowles and running with it when it had some bipartisan support is my big criticism of Obama today…and I still can’t fathom what he could have known that made sitting on his hands the right thing…I’m giving him no benefit of the doubt there, just evidence of weak leadership in my view.
Reminds me of an Onion article “Black Man Given Nation’s Worst Job”
By the time he leaves office, his hair will be as white as Nelson Mandela’s.
Tends to happen to men in their 40s and 50s. A lot. Especially if they don’t color.
20 Depressing Facts About the Housing Market
By Carla Fried | Jun 6, 2011
Here are 20 sobering statistics culled from the JCHS’ State of the Nation’s Housing: 2011. Unless noted, all data is for 2010.
15: Percent of homeowners underwater (mortgage balance exceeds home’s market value)
11.1 million: Number of homeowners with negative equity
$12.4 trillion: Total loss in real household wealth, 2006-2010
$6.3 trillion: Total real home equity, end of 2010
$8.6 trillion: Total loss in real home equity since 2006 market peak
2.2 million: Estimated number of mortgages in the foreclosure pipeline
67: Percent of homeowners in foreclosure who have not made a mortgage payment for at least one year
3.9 million: Increase in number of renters since 2004
74: percent of renters in early 2011 who say ownership makes more financial sense than renting
4.1: Percent decline in home prices in 2010
2: Metro areas out of 20 tracked by the Case-Shiller index that did not experience price declines in the 12 months through January 2011
30.7: Estimated percent of homes that sold for less than previous purchase price (2009: 25.4 percent)
14: Percent decline in new home sales (fifth straight year of double digit declines)
18: Percent of median household income needed to buy median priced home (2005: 32 percent)
9: Percent of median household income needed to purchase median-priced house in Cape Coral, FL in 2010 (2007: 38 percent)
38: Percent of median household income needed to purchase median-priced house in San Francisco in 2010 (2007: 76 percent)
17: Percent of households spending more than half of their income on housing
9: Percent of new loans with down payments below 10 percent
27.4: Percent of homes bought with all cash in 2010 (2009: 19.8 percent)
66.9: Percent of U.S. households that own a home (2004 peak: 69 percent)
http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/blog/daily-money/20-depressing-facts-about-the-housing-market/2841/ - 96k -
No big deal the housing market should snap back anytime, what with all these programs to help the FB out. Check back in a decade or so to see how it’s going.
$12.4 trillion: Total lo$$ in real hou$ehold wealth, 2006-2010
Here’s a “frothy conundrum”; please define: “real”
Quickly now, This is a “time-related” type test.
Good find jeff. I would love to see a comparison to The Great Depression.
I would bet a lot of money, its almost the same.
Damn, the Bernank hardly shuts his mouth now. The bankster boyz must be working him pretty hard.
- Bernanke: Deep Spending Cuts Could Derail Recovery- Reuters
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned Congress on Thursday that overzealous cuts to government spending could derail an already fragile recovery and said a U.S. debt default could wreak financial havoc.
Well, he`s usually spot on.
2006: “Housing markets are cooling a bit. Our expectation is that the decline in activity or the slowing in activity will be moderate, that house prices will probably continue to rise.”
2007: “At this juncture, however, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained. In particular, mortgages to prime borrowers and fixed-rate mortgages to all classes of borrowers continue to perform well, with low rates of delinquency.”
2007: “It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.”
2008: “The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”
Distribution Center Closing, Jobs Cut
wnep.com
A business in Lackawanna County PA. is closing its doors and hundreds will be left jobless.
Ocean Logistics at the Keystone Industrial Park in Dunmore PA. notified the state labor department that it will stop all operations at its warehouse by September.
That means 206 workers will be out of jobs.
The facility has been in operation for more than 50 years in the area. The warehouse processes health and beauty aids and distributes to A&P supermarkets.
More than 200 people work there, but come September 12, all those people will be out of jobs.
The state labor department received a warn notice this week from the company.
It said Ocean Logistics will no longer provide warehousing and distribution services to its sole customer. Therefore the Dunmore warehouse will permanently close.
Some folks in the area reacted to the layoffs.
“You know it’s sad to hear this because it’s been going on, and you don’t know where it’s going to end, and you hate to have to think it’s going to be a depressed area,” said Angie Richards of Dunmore.
“It’s always difficult when you hear about places closing and people losing their jobs. They said the economy is on the rebound but I can’t believe that when laying people off and closing places. It’s not easy,” said Larry Hickernell of Scranton.
Jobless recovery right on track. Those workers will now have more time to consume.
Yep, That’s how it works in a jobless recovery!
“They said the economy is on the rebound but I can’t believe that when laying people off and closing places. It’s not easy,” said Larry Hickernell of Scranton.”
SUCKER!
This one’s got it all. Property management firm, corporate “compassion”, lost health insurance, no worker protection, unemployment, tragedy, love….
Man Gets Fired After Wife Gets Cancer
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/06/16/wife-gets-cancer-husband-gets-fired/?ncid=txtlnkuscare00000002
Massachusetts accountant Carl Sorabella had every reason to believe that his employer would grant his request for a more flexible schedule so that he could assist his wife, who had just been diagnosed with Stage IV lung cancer and given only months to live. After all, he’d been with Haynes Management in Wellesley, for 13 years, and had just been given a raise in November.
But instead of a more accommodating schedule, he got a pink slip in response to his request, even though he had made it clear that he was willing to work nights and weekends to make up for the time he intended to spend taking his wife in for treatments and tests.
“It shocks me,” said Kathleen, Sorabella’s wife of 23 years. “People are supposed to help each other. I guess corporate America is different.”…
…Sorabella says that his boss told him they were thinking about laying him off anyway, due to “modifications in workforce requirements.”… He says that he later saw an employment ad for his old job with the same company…..
It’s a kinder, gentler machine gun.
“…if you tax them less, they can hire more people!”
Hurry! reduce/eliminate their taxe$, hurry,… Cinder$ & Ashe$…Schemer$ & Scammmer$…Agonie$ & Pain$, help ‘em…help ‘em.
“TruePatriotCEO’$™” plead, plead, plead: “give u$ a tax repatriation holiday and we’ll bring the money back and start creating Job$! Job$! Job$!…”
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My suspicion is that the company didn’t want to pay the spike in company health insurance premiums to cover Mrs. Sorabella’s treatments, and so they fired the husband.
Because there was an ad for his old job, Sorabella’s job position was not eliminated; he was technically not laid off. Therefore he’s probably not eligible for unemployment payments. Did they fire him for “cause?” Is just asking for a schedule change considered cause to fire someone? Legal eagles, are there grounds for a lawsuit in here somewhere?
My sister used to work for Target. Management got rid of her and a single mom-to-be. My sister had her whole family on her health insurance. I have always wondered if she and the other lady were targeted (pun intended) because their insurance cost the company more than others. At least she got her 99 weeks of unemployment out of the b–tards.
“Family and Medical Leave Act” and he’s just hit the lawsuit jackpot.
Oh, and Sorabella, I hate to say this, but… SUCKER!
Next time, maybe some certain people on this board can tell you about those “poor decisions” you made about your wife getting cancer.
Seriously, though, sue the crap out of those bastards!
“Family and Medical Leave Act” and he’s just hit the lawsuit jackpot.
From the article:
“Unfortunately, Sorabella has no legal recourse. Federal and state laws that protect workers from this kind of treatment only apply to larger companies with more than 50 employees.”
OAKES, N.D. — A plant that makes military equipment is closing in the North Dakota city of Oakes.
A spokesman for the parent company of JLG Industries tells the American News the plant will close Aug. 31, putting 56 people out of work.
Oshkosh Corp. spokesman John Daggett says the closing is prompted by “market dynamics” and will be phased in over the summer. Workers are not being offered severance packages or an opportunity to transfer to another plant but will get bonuses if they stay until the plant closes and meet certain conditions.
The plant was slated for closure two years ago but local and state officials worked with North Dakota’s congressional delegation to keep it open.
Mayor Monty Zimmer says the closure will “greatly impact” the town of about 1,700 people.
Whoa. Stewart & Stevens (a big Texas mfg) lost the contract to build military cargo trucks last year or 2 years to… Oshkosh.
I “think” but I’m not sure, that Oshkosh then lost it to BAE.
Team Obama need to pull a Bush and send some dough to the general population. Except this tmis in the form of plastic cards that can only be used at retailers.
Call it: The SNAP card, for… Shop Now Aggressively Please!
U.S. Retail Sales Stagnate as Unemployment Curbs Consumers
(Bloomberg)
Sales at U.S. retailers stagnated in June as rising unemployment held consumers back.
The 0.1 percent increase reported by the Commerce Department in Washington today compared with the median forecast of a 0.1 percent drop in the Bloomberg News survey of 80 economists. Excluding auto sales, purchases were little changed, the weakest performance since July 2010.
Total sales were boosted by an unexpected increase in demand at auto dealers that will not influence figures on consumer spending for the second quarter that the government will publish later this month. Increasing joblessness prompted stores like Target Corp. and Gap Inc. to sweeten discounts to lure customers as a dearth of jobs raises the risk that household purchases will have difficulty picking up for the rest of 2011.
“Consumers are cautious,” said Michelle Meyer, a senior economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in New York. “There is still pretty slow momentum. It still shows we’re in a fragile recovery.”
Hi.
I have decided to post the HBB to declare my new life’s goal. I think I will put it at the top of resume. Here goes:
“My goal is to use my skills as a molecular biologist and professional communicator to eradicate the human race.”
Any constructive input?
V-
I would love to help you with this Maybe not eradicate, but a reduction to about 500 millions total eaters/breeders would make Earth a much more enjoyable place.
It’s gonna happen by itself anyway.
Hey it’s all good! You might have missed my comment yesterday about the genetically engineered super humans that will be created to take over. I’m sure they will decide the right number of homo-sapiens the planet can support.
Actually, given the trajectory of science and the population this is a no brainer.
Remember “carousel” from Logan’s Run? Fun and effective!
It’s an admirable goal, V.
like that movie with Bruce Willis and brad Pitt
don’t remember the name it was pretty werid
“12 Monkeys”
Could you just eliminate the psychopaths? I know that’s still a lot of people, but it would help immensely.
Thanks.
ITEM: In the second day of testimony in his semi-annual appearance before members of Congress, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has renewed the promise made yesterday that the central bank could put more monetary stimulus into play if the economic recovery stumbles.
This is “Fed-Speak” for - “We’re ready to roll with more Quantitative Easing if the economy doesn’t perk up.”
← Quantitative Easing means monetary inflating. It could ignite a serious round of price inflation. However, the huge shadow of deflation hovers over the scene as prices of big ticket items like houses and commercial property continue to drop. By some estimates real estate has another 20 percent to fall before buyers come into the market in force.
Does the Federal Reserve have the ammo to jump-start the economy if deflationary pressure doesn’t ease? We’ll find out.
Today’s 30yr treasury auction was great, but for some reason bond prices fell about 30 min. later. Not a safe haven?
Meanwhile across the pond…
Burglaries up 14% on last year, annual crime figures show British Crime Survey reports increase in domestic burglaries in England and Wales
“The shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, said: “After years of falling crime, these figures show the further progress people want is now at risk and there are some very worrying signs. “Burglary is up by 14%, domestic violence is up by a shocking 35%, violent crime is up, including a 38% increase in assault with minor injury.”
http://www DOT guardian.co.uk
How’s that Hope and Change working out for you now, limey wankers?
And that’s with a MUCH better social safety net than we have here.
Like I said yesterday: Out status quo == their austerity.
Sort of. Their safety net is only “marginally” better than hours.
They’ve done just exactly what we’ve done: their best to dismantle the safety nets.
Realtors Are Liars
Anyone remember last year when “analysts” were predicting record auto sales due to “pent up demand”. Some were even predicting that 19-20 million cars would be sold.
Looks like they were wrong. Dead wrong.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-07-14/retail-sales-in-u-s-probably-stagnated-as-auto-demand-cooled.html
“Sales at U.S. retailers probably stagnated in June, reflecting declining auto demand and rising unemployment, economists said before a report today.”
“Sales of cars and light vehicle ran at a seasonally adjusted 11.41 million annual rate in June, down from 11.76 million in May and 13.14 million in April, according to researcher Autodata Corp. Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. deliveries each fell 21 percent from the same month last year, reflecting supply-chain constraints linked to Japan’s March earthquake, while General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. said sales rose 10 percent.”
I love how they blamed the drop in Toyota and Honda sales on the earthquake, as if there wasn’t plent of inventory on the dealer lots, and in transit, not to mention that Toyota and Honda assemble many of their models in North America with high domestic content.
How about … car sales dropped as prices rose dramatically while buyer incomes dropped?
Well, they got the “pent up” part right, at least.
Gotta save some monies…
Merck job cuts set to accelerate July 14, 2011 — By Tracy Staton- FiercePharma
Merck’s ($MRK) long-planned job cuts are set to accelerate. The company announced its intent to shed some 15,000 jobs by 2012 last year, but thousands of those jobs have yet to go. Sources tell Pharmalot that Merck plans to amp up its layoff process soon, probably early next month.
Merck announced the cuts in the wake of its 2009 merger with Schering-Plough. The idea was to save some $3.5 billion by slashing the payroll by 10% and shuttering facilities. Such an enormous restructuring plan takes time, of course, and as of March, Merck still had about 8,000 jobs remaining to be cut, Pharmalot figures.
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Now, the layoffs will speed up, the blog’s sources said. And they may not end with the announced 15,000. Company insiders tell Pharmalot that officials may want to cut the workforce even more than they had planned. Merck execs are combing operations for more ways to save money, they say. Merck itself declined comment.
heheeeheeeheehaahaaahaaheeehaahaaa… (Hwy50™)
Voters blame Shrub more than Obama for the economy:
By Holly Bailey | The Ticket – 3 hrs ago
Voters are increasingly displeased with President Obama’s handling of the economy, but a new poll finds most Americans still think George W. Shrub is responsible for the nation’s di$mal financial $tate.
A Country in Denial About Taxes:
Leonard Burman The Impertinent Economist
“Back in the olden days, we acknowledged that wars cost money and didn’t think that our children should pay the entire cost, with interest. (Imagine that!) There were huge tax increases to finance World War II and the Korean War, and fairly significant ones to pay for Vietnam.”
“Voters blame Shrub more than Obama for the economy”
Cool — it seems I have underestimated the intelligence of the American voter.
Just wait :-).
Hundreds scramble for Dallas County rental vouchers
by CYNTHIA VEGA and REBECCA LOPEZ WFAA July 14, 2011
DALLAS — At least eight people were hurt Thursday morning while scrambling to line up for a limited number of Dallas County rental vouchers — after waiting for hours in their cars.
People lined up Thursday morning to apply for Dallas County Section 8 housing vouchers. Dallas County sheriff’s spokesman Kim Leach estimated the crowd at about 5,000.
The office at the Jesse Owens Memorial Complex wasn’t supposed to open until 8 a.m., but some applicants started lining up at 10 o’clock Wednesday night.
Police kept people off school district property until the gates opened at 6 a.m. That resulted in a long string of cars lined up on the streets.
Doors were opened early.
Hundreds of people rushed the line, causing moments of unruliness.
“I started running and I slipped and fell,” said applicant Jordan Spivey, who suffered cuts and scrapes as she was caught up in the crowd. But she said she feels lucky that she wasn’t trampled.
“It was a madhouse,” said applicant Ada McKinsey, who was injured as the crowd closed in around the door. “People pushing, fighting.”
But authorities eventually gained control.
Seven people were treated by paramedics. None were taken to the hospital.
And that my friends, is how one survives on a less than $500 week paycheck.
I can only imagine what it’s going to be like when they start rationing food stamps.
I lived through the riots of the 1960s. I don’t have to imagine.
They made the Rodney King riots look like a picnic.
Seven people were treated by paramedics. None were taken to the hospital.…because they were all uninsured….
Report: Obama MIA in Latin America
By Paul Bedard USNEWS - July 14, 2011
Add Latin America to the list of regions upset with President Obama’s lack of follow-through on campaign and White House promises.
“Whatever changes Obama’s presence may have introduced into the White House, Latin America remains forgotten,” says prominent author and journalist Marco Gandasegui Jr. in a new and scathing report in the influential Latin American Perspectives. “Most observers agree that, for Obama, Latin America continues to be terra incognita.”
In his critical review of Obama’s presidency, the University of Panama professor says that Latin leaders, especially pro-Democracy advocates, have been let down by the administration. They expected Obama to lift the Cuban embargo, lessen the U.S. military influence in several nations and support democracy efforts. But so far, nada.
“After his two years in office, most observers in the region agree that the United States has yet to deliver in three areas: ending the Cuban embargo, respecting democratic institutions (Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador), and abandoning its military agenda (e.g., the Colombia Plan, the Mérida Initiative, and the Fourth Fleet),” writes Gandasegui.
“In the first two years of Obama’s administration Latin America was practically erased from the map in the White House,” he adds.
They expected Obama to lift the Cuban embargo, lessen the U.S. military influence in several nations and support democracy efforts. But so far, nada.
I’m surprised that the American farm lobby hasn’t been screaming for an end to the Cuban embargo.
The Bernank’s head must be spinning… Is he or isn’t he?
Bernanke: No Plans Now for Bond Purchases (Bloomberg)
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told Congress that the central bank isn’t currently ready to embark on a third round of government bond-buying to stimulate the economy.
“We’re not prepared at this point to take further action,” Bernanke said today, in response to a question from Senate Banking Committee Chairman Tim Johnson, a Democrat from South Dakota. Johnson asked Bernanke why the Fed wasn’t immediately starting a new stimulus program given the weak economic recovery and rising unemployment.
Stocks fell, driving the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to the lowest level of the month. The S&P declined 0.7 percent to 1,308.25 at 1:18 p.m. in New York after rising as much as 0.7 percent. Gold futures pared gains after reaching a record $1,594.90 an ounce.
In House testimony yesterday, he said the Fed still has tools to spur growth, and that “we have to keep all the options on the table,” driving share prices higher. Bernanke told Senators today that policy makers want to see if the economy rebounds as anticipated in the coming months, and that they are keeping a close eye on inflation.
Should the economy turn out to be weaker than expected, the central bank may provide more monetary stimulus, Bernanke said. A third round of quantitative easing, or QE3, is an option if a recent economic slowdown persists and deflationary forces re- emerge, he said.
News Corp. (Fox) charged by FBI for illegal wire taps etc..
Watch out! According to Glen Beck this was THE sign of the Armageddon!
Seriously, this is really big if it breaks up the Empire.
Eating Neil’s All Natural Popcorn, …drinking a micro-brew, laughing.
Rupert must be using more 4 letter words in the last week then he’s used in the last 10 years…almost sounding like a rap star.
But the government can wiretap anyone they want, so why shouldn’t Fox?
To be fair, the only news I’ve seen says “investigation” but no charges… yet.
D.C. Firefighters To Help Police Streets?
NBC Washington - Jul 14, 2011
Firefighters are upset about a proposal asking them to help police streets so teenagers don’t get robbed.
Both D.C. firefighters and police officers are upset over a new program that forces the fire department to help fight crime.
For the past three weeks, D.C. Fire and EMS personnel have been parking their trucks at high crime neighborhoods.
“It’s to prevent things from bubbling up. The idea is that if you have a fire engine with adults there no one is going to commit a crime,” said D.C. Deputy Mayor Paul Quander.
City officials said they just want firefighters to call 911 if they see suspicious activity.
The D.C. police union and firefighters union say the plan is not safe.
“I think it is a disaster,” said D.C. Police Union spokesman Kris Baumann. “You’re putting untrained, unsupervised, unequipped firefighters in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in town to perform a law enforcement function.”
Right now, the plan is to keep the policy in place at least through next spring.
D.C. Firefighters To Help Police Streets?
NBC Washington - Jul 14, 2011
that’s lame
Not good. Firefighters are NOT police.
They are the very opposite of police.
Don’t worry boyz the Bernank will come though for you, just jerking your chain a little that’s all. Bidness as usual.
Wall Street sags on new Bernanke talk, Nasdaq off 1 percent
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stocks fell on Thursday as new comments from the Federal Reserve chairman dashed investors’ hopes for the chance of further stimulus and tech shares pushed the Nasdaq down 1 percent.
During a second day of testimony about the economy, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke reiterated that the U.S. central bank would be ready to inject more money should the economy get worse. But he told a Senate committee that the time had not come yet and noted inflation had picked up since late 2010.
Stocks had climbed on Wednesday as investors took Bernanke’s remarks before a House panel as signaling the possibility of more stimulus for the economy if the outlook worsens. The central bank’s most recent stimulative program contributed to strong equity gains since September.
“Bernanke has backed off considerably from what might have been more stimulus, and that made yesterday’s rally like eating sugar for lunch: Nothing more than a short burst of energy,” said Kent Engelke, chief economic strategist at Capitol Securities Management in Richmond, Virginia.
Prediction:
Playing hardball on the debt ceiling will blow up on the Retardicans.
Lawmakers snipe, Wall St. frets as deadline nears
Associated Press | AP – 2 hrs 29 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Testy lawmakers pointed fingers at one another and President Barack Obama on Thursday as negotiations over raising the national debt limit entered a perilous endgame. Wall Street eyed the standoff with growing anxiety, warning of catastrophe if the U.S. defaults on its obligations.
Obama’s blunt declaration that “enough is enough” as Wednesday’s talks ended did nothing to quell the rancor as a new day of positioning and posturing began.
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Despite McConnell’s assertions that the debt problem belongs to Obama, fresh polling from Quinnipiac University suggested voters would be more apt to hold Republicans responsible than Obama, by 48 percent to 34 percent, if the debt limit is not raised. The same survey showed voters were about evenly split on whether they’re more concerned about raising the limit and increasing government debt, or seeing the government go into default and damaging the economy.
“The American people aren’t very happy about their leaders, but President Barack Obama is viewed as the best of the worst, especially when it comes to the economy,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of Quinnipiac’s Polling Institute.
That helps explain why McConnell put forward a plan that would give Obama new powers to overcome Republican opposition to raising the debt ceiling.
The proposal would place the burden on Obama to win debt ceiling increases up to three times, provided he was able to override congressional vetoes — a threshold Obama could manage to overcome even without a single Republican vote and without massive spending cuts. Conservatives promptly criticized the plan for giving up the leverage to reduce deficits. But the plan raised the prospect of combining it with some of the spending cuts already identified by the White House in order to win support from conservatives in the House.
In an interview with radio talk-show host Laura Ingraham, McConnell described his plan in stark political terms, warning fellow conservatives that failure to raise the debt limit would probably ensure Obama’s re-election in 2012. He predicted that a default would allow Obama to argue that Republicans were making the economy worse.
“You know, it’s an argument he has a good chance of winning, and all of a sudden we (Republicans) have co-ownership of a bad economy,” McConnell said. “That’s a very bad positioning going into an election.”
…
“You know, it’s an argument he has a good chance of winning, and all of a sudden we (Republicans) have co-ownership of a Cheney-Shrub shadow-effect #3 residual bad economy,”
What, “Republitards” doesn’t cut it anymore? You had this “tard” stuff self-banned from your posts for a couple of months now, and it was a good thing.
Sorry, my hand occasionally slips.
I will try my best to keep it contained, even as the R-cans doom their 2012 election prospects by driving far too fast in this game of debt ceiling chicken.
Editorial
The Debt Alarm Is Heard
Published: July 14, 2011
As negotiators in the debt-ceiling talks sputtered and raged, the chill reality of an imminent government default crept up Wednesday and made a mockery of their gamesmanship. Two major rating agencies warned that a once-unthinkable downgrade of the nation’s credit rating would be at hand if this crisis was not immediately defused.
That finally punctured the careless notion, popularized by Tea Party lawmakers like Michele Bachmann and Louie Gohmert, that default would be a minor inconvenience. Standard & Poor’s said a downgrade could occur if any required payments were missed, even if bondholders were paid first. Moody’s said a new process for dealing with the debt ceiling was needed. Although the bond markets have yet to be roiled, there are fresh indications that China and other investors are beginning to get nervous.
The alarms could not be much louder, but myth-making is still impeding the desperately needed deal.
Many House Republicans persist in acting as though they are doing President Obama a favor by considering a debt-ceiling increase at all, and that in exchange they should get all the spending cuts they want. In fact, the debt ceiling is an artificial method of keeping an eye on borrowing that Congress itself imposed nearly a century ago. The president didn’t “ask” for an increase; he simply reminded Congress that the authority to continue borrowing had run out because of spending already incurred, largely because of wars, the recession, growing entitlement programs and the Bush tax cuts.
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‘Depressed’ Ferret Flees Siberian Circus
The Moscow Times - 14 July 2011
A ferret has escaped a circus in the East Siberian city of Chita along with a monkey and a red-breasted parakeet — apparently because they all were feeling down due to bad weather.
“We believe the creatures have fled because of their depression — the rain in Chita just doesn’t stop,” the circus’ art director, Zhanna Lazerson, told Interfax on Thursday.
“We found the monkey in a doghouse in the morning, and the two animals were cuddling in their sleep,” she said. “But the search for the ferret and the parakeet goes on.”
She said the escape has added to the animals’ depression in the circus because the male parakeet was partnered on stage with a female parakeet who is now missing him.
The ferret is less missed, with Lazerson calling him a “terrible glutton, idle to the core.”
Nevertheless, the troupe hopes that the animals will return to their circus home once they get really hungry.
Weather forecasts say the rain won’t let up in Chita this week.
Parakeets and ferrets can always find food. I’ll bet the make parakeet comes and rescues is GF too. That’ll be awesome. F the circus.
Google Shares Jump After-Hours After Search Giant Tops Earnings Forecasts- CNBC
Google shares jumped after-hours after the search giant delivered a blowout quarter, beating on both earnings and revenue. Google
Hang in there Mo, you can wear them down!
Qaddafi Lives Up to Wily Reputation - bloomberg
As foreign envoys converge on Istanbul to discuss yet again how to get rid of Muammar Qaddafi, the Libyan dictator is living up to his reputation for cunning by hanging on longer than any of them had predicted.
For all the early talk of days-not-weeks to the endgame, Qaddafi has survived four months of NATO bombings and confounded diplomats with his mixture of bluffs and threats. It’s the same bag of tricks Qaddafi has used to keep more than 100 tribes under control since taking power in a military coup in 1969.
“The man is a fox,” said Karim Mezran, a Libyan exile and a political science professor at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies in Bologna, Italy. “He’s adept at running rings around his enemies. He’s done it for decades and he’s doing it again.”
The future of the North African nation without Qaddafi and how to fund and arm the impoverished rebels trying to end his four-decade rule has been at the crux of the past four monthly meetings of the 22-nation Libya Contact Group. The Turks host the latest round tomorrow.
The problem is they’ve underestimated his resilience and, even if his eventual ouster is inevitable, he could hang on for months even amid fuel shortages, according to Mezran.
Since the last meeting in Abu Dhabi, Turkey has become the 26th nation to recognize the rebels’ Benghazi-based National Transitional Council. The U.S. is not one of them. Legislation to give rebels access to frozen Libyan assets is stalled in the U.S. Senate, adding to the prospect that the rebels will run out of cash to buy food and supplies.
“The man is a
foxgila monster,”J. Frank Dobie & the Brazos Bottom fisherman:
Boyz,… diz like this: “That turkel, he’s daid…he just don’t knows it.”
“Because the Helodermatids have remained relatively unchanged morphologically, they are occasionally regarded as living fossils“
The head moonbat does not want to go to Camp David…
Pelosi Says She’s ‘Almost Too Busy’ to Continue Listening to Debt Talks
Thursday, July 14, 2011
(CNSNews.com) – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she is “almost too busy” to continue listening to what is going on in the debt limit meetings at the White House with congressional leaders.
At a Capitol Hill press conference on Thursday Pelosi said, “Day in and day out, the president has respectfully listened, accommodated, engaged in conversation in a very informed way and he is the president of the United States. I know he’s busy.”
“I myself am almost too busy to continue listening to some of the things that are going on in that room,” said Pelosi. “So I know he must be very busy. But he has treated everyone there with great dignity. The only thing I hope he doesn’t ask us to do is go to Camp David. That goes beyond the pale. Driving down the street for these meetings is one thing –.”
The only thing I hope he doesn’t ask us to do is go to Camp David.
Recall that Carter got Sadat and Begin to come to an agreement at Camp David. Part of the reason why this came about because Camp David is a real bore. The two fellas had nothing else to do except…
…come to an agreement.
More recently, in Robert Reich’s Clinton administration memoir, Locked in the Cabinet, Camp David is described as “a bunch of mildewy cabins in the woods.”
“That goes beyond the pale”. Said the Moonbat
” It means an action that’s regarded as outside the limits of acceptable behavior, one that’s objectionable or improper”.
What is she thinking Barry may do up there at Camp David?
What is she thinking Barry may do up there at Camp David?
Invite her to go hiking? Bet she hasn’t done that in a while.
Or bicycle up and down the access road to the camp? It’s a steep one.
And then there’s basketball. I’ll bet she can’t play that game to save her life.
Of course, Barack could channel his inner Lyndon and go for a dip in the pool. Without a suit. Lyndon loved to use the White House pool that way.
New vault may be necessary to store unpopular dollar coins
BALTIMORE (ABC News Radio) - The U.S. Mint in Philadelphia is a big, noisy, busy operation, capable of minting nearly 2 million presidential dollar coins daily. But most of those coins go into storage, never seeing the light of day. Costing 32 cents apiece to produce, these manganese brass dollars have proven unpopular with a public that prefers paper.
ABC News went to one such storage facility, the Federal Reserve in Baltimore, where the coins are in plastics bags and cardboard boxes, stacked one on top of another, creating several aisles of presidential coinage worth millions of dollars.
In their most recent annual report to Congress, the Federal Reserve says the coins are piling up so quickly they will need to spend $650,000 to build a new vault in Dallas to hold them. Shipping the coins to the new secure facility will cost an additional $3 million.
Passed by Congress in 2005, the Presidential $1 Coin Act ordered the mint to make millions of coins to honor every dead president, but not even Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., one of the co-sponsors of the original bill, uses the legal tender.
“Do you use these things? Do you have any of these things in your pocket?” Reed was asked by ABC News’ Jonathan Karl while holding the dollar coins. “I don’t I tell you, but I like everyone else repeatedly use nickels, dimes, quarters. In fact I have a little jar in my car for the traffic meters.”
Reed and other senators sent a letter this week to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Mint Acting Director Richard Peterson asking for help in improving the program while eliminating waste of taxpayer resources.
Meanwhile, the coins keep coming off the production lines, already more than a billion made and counting. The Fed’s report estimates that they could have more than $2 billion in excess $1 coins by the time the program is expected to end five years from now.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen one.
You haven’t missed anything. People don’t want them because they’re heavy and bulky. Retail doesn’t want them because there’s no place in cash drawers for them. Collectors probably don’t want them because there are so many being made and the metal has no real value.
I used to get a couple rolls of the dollar coins and a bunch of $2 bills from the bank to use for tips when I took vacations out of the United States. After they did double take you couldn’t pry those dollars out of their hands.
I have also used dollar coins for tips, while traveling.
They were a little perplexed by them in Mongolia.
But most of those coins go into storage, never seeing the light of day.
cry-pi$$ & moaaan…or get hip:
The dollar coin trick involves purchasing large amounts of coins with a frequent flier card, waiting for the Mint to ship the coins (free shipping!), and then taking the coins to the bank, where they are deposited and the money is used to pay the credit card charges. No money is lost, the frequent flier miles rack up, and travelers can use them for upgrades or completely free flights whenever they want.
Fly for Free Thanks to the U.S. Mint:
by John Giuffo / Forbes /Thursday, July 14, 2011
It goes something like this: The U.S. Mint, through a 2005 act of Congress, is required to place $1 billion worth of the golden presidential and Sacagewea dollars into circulation in an effort to stimulate general use. The only problem is, the coins haven’t really caught on with the general public. But there is one group of people that have enthusiastically embraced their use: travel hackers, so called because they aggressively look for loopholes in promotional programs and for tips on travel websites for ways in which to make the best use of their travel dollars. Much of this “hacking” involves taking advantage of frequent flier programs in unique and innovative ways.
Google Searches May Affect Memory: Yahoo News
Internet searches are making information easy to forget, as more people rely on their computers as a type of “external memory,” a study of Harvard University students found.
About 60 Harvard students were asked to type 40 pieces of trivia, such as “An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain,” into computers, and were told either the information would be saved or erased. People who believed the data would be saved were less likely to remember, according to the study published online by the journal Science.
The widely available Internet has made it an instant go-to library where facts and figures are easily found, the researchers said. The study suggests that search engines such as Google Inc. and databases such as Amazon.com Inc IMDb.com serve as an external “memory, where information is stored collectively outside ourselves,” they said.
“We are becoming symbiotic with our computer tools, growing into interconnected systems,” the authors wrote in the paper. “We have become dependent on them to the same degree we are on all the knowledge we gain from our friends and coworkers — and lose if they are out of touch.”
“We are becoming symbiotic with our computer tools, growing into interconnected systems,” the authors wrote in the paper. “We have become dependent on them to the same degree we are on all the knowledge we gain from our friends and coworkers — and lose if they are out of touch.”
Hasn’t Ray Kurzweil said the same thing for years?
Sure has. Asimov had a story about a time when everyone has essentially a buffed out PDA that tells them what to do. One day a little boy loses his and chaos ensues. Anybody ever read that one?
I am dumber for having read this.
The biggest problem is “scrubbing,” making searches almost worthless for anything you once saw and now no longer available.
What is “scrubbing?” There are companies that are paid to find and eliminate any reference to any given subject on the Internet from wherever it is found.
Many news agencies do this as well.
Literally “down the memory hole.”
Lovely, ain’t it?
Here Eco:
http://www.reputation.com/
I will be flying in a week with the whole family, and I’m already getting pissed thinking about the security stuff.
I’ve told the wife we will fly only when absolutely necessary.