Learning A Lesson In California
The Bay Citizen reports from California. “The Obama administration’s flagship anti-foreclosure program is failing California homeowners according to a report released Tuesday by the San Francisco-based California Reinvestment Coalition. In San Francisco and the East Bay, the group found that only 1,807 homeowners — 11 percent of those applying through HAMP — had successfully gotten their lender to lower the amount of their loan. That figure, however, was significantly better than in Los Angeles and Fresno. In both areas, fewer than 5 percent of loan modifications included some degree of principal forgiveness.”
“‘Loan servicer intransigence continues to plague borrowers and communities,’ said Kevin Stein, the group’s associate director.”
“Dustin Hobbs, a spokesman for the California Mortgage Bankers Association, said he was not surprised by the findings. ‘A one-size-fits-all approach does not work for everyone. There is no silver bullet,’ he said. ‘If the expectation was to change the world and solve everyone’s problems, you were bound to be very disappointed.’”
The LA Times. “Local residential real estate prices and the number of pending sales dropped off in May, casting gloom over the traditionally strong spring housing market. The average sale price of a Glendale home in May was $456,000, down $50,000 from the same time last year, according to statistics compiled by Glendale Keller Williams agent Keith Sorem.”
“Sorem said foreclosed homes are often in poor shape, driving down prices on comparable properties. The fact that those deals are a growing percentage of local transactions is a sign that prices likely will remain soft in the foreseeable future, he said. ‘Properties are coming on the market, not because people are moving, but because they can’t afford to stay there,’ Sorem said.”
The Bakersfield Californian. “A lot of homeowners can’t sell right now because they owe more on their mortgage than their home is worth. There are also huge numbers of homes tied up in the long and cumbersome foreclosure process due to the region’s double-digit unemployment. Lender-owned property sales accounted for about 44 percent of home sales in the area, nearly unchanged for both the month and year.”
“Demand for lender-owned properties is falling as buyers move toward short sale inventory, which usually is in better condition and commands better prices, said Gary Crabtree of Affiliated Appraisers. Crabtree said he is troubled that homes listed as short sales are sitting on the market for about 150 days, versus about 70 days for a foreclosed home.”
“‘The banks are taking a long time to close these deals, and that raises an alarm,’ he said. ‘Obviously if a seller is doing a short sale they’re in distress, and if they can’t get an answer, those are future foreclosures. At some point, they’re going to walk away and you’re going to see some of those convert to strategic defaults.’”
The Martinez News Gazette. “It was after midnight when the last public speaker approached the City Council podium to air their oppositions to the Alhambra Highlands development project on Wednesday. The Council was charged with deciding on four separate appeals to the May Planning Commission approval of the 110-home subdivision.”
“During the hearing, the Richfield Development Corporation team pointed out the company has spent $30 million to date on trying to secure the necessary building permits, and the entire project was going to cost them an estimated $114 million before it was finished. If completed, each home would go to market with a $1.25 million price tag. Council member Lara DeLaney questioned the figures, saying, ‘It’s going to cost over $1 million just to build each house? That’s pretty interesting.’”
“‘Richfield president Ricardo Sabella admitted to the Council that at this point in time, he was doing ‘damage control,’ by moving forward on the project. ‘If we quit now, that’s $30 million gone … it’s more or less damage control at a certain point, we’re chasing that. We’re not going to make a killing or any reasonable profit,’ Sabella told the Council. ‘We’re trying to save as much money as we can and I think we’ve learned our lesson.’”
The Long Beach Post. “Richard Daskam’s name has become synonymous with the million-dollar-listings on Signal Hill that started popping up after the turn of the millennium, the Keller Williams agent is also quite active in Long Beach, a city on which he maintains a positive outlook when it comes to property. Q) When the last spate of foreclosures hit Southern California, it negatively impacted many communities, creating blight in the form of unoccupied homes and uncared for communities. Are you seeing this in Long Beach? If so, which communities?”
“A) Surprisingly, I do see some of this in almost every neighborhood. And it’s not just the homes that have already been foreclosed on, it’s also the short sales and loan modifications. My neighbor is trying to do a loan modification and hasn’t cut his grass in months. I guess he thinks that if the outside looks terrible then the bank will grant his loan modification!”
From MSNBC. “Single women have become a major force in the real estate market. According to the National Association of Realtors, last year unmarried gals made up 20 percent of all home buyers, where single guys accounted for 12 percent. Why the discrepancy between men and women? No one seems to be able to put their finger on it exactly. I personally think it’s because the concept of home resonates so strongly with women. Regardless of our marital status, we want to come home from work to a place that feels like ours.”
“‘I’ve been in real estate a long time, and this is the best market I’ve ever seen for buyers,’ says Jan Gray, a Northern California realtor who specializes in coastal properties south of San Francisco. ‘The rates are super low, and don’t believe people who say it’s hard to get a loan. It’s just not like the old days, when banks accepted you if you had a pulse.’”
“As a single woman, Gray knows the joys of feathering a nest by oneself. ‘When women shop for a home with a man, I always see them deferring to him: his need for a garage, or a work space, or a man cave. When women buy for themselves, they are excited about turning this place into something that reflects them and who they are — they know they could even paint the bathroom pink if they wanted to!’”
The Hollywood Gossip. “Carnie Wilson has no one to blame for her unhappiness. She likely purchased a home during her musical heyday, watched it tripled in value during the boom years of 1990-2006, and then borrowed against it to support a lifestyle beyond her means. This member of iconic 1990s trio Wilson Phillips is facing a serious situation: foreclosure.’
“As first reported by TMZ, Wilson has defaulted on her California home loan and has until July 21 to fork over the $1.6 million owed on the residence. Otherwise, the house goes up for auction.”
The Vallejo Times Herald. “‘How do you tell a 2-year-old that you failed as a provider?’ It was the question Yvette Harris of Vacaville asked herself as she and her family prepared to vacate the home they lost to foreclosure last year. Since March, the family — including now 4-year-old twin sons and an infant daughter — has been leasing to own a new home through a program available to qualified Solano County residents that will last only as long as its funding, local Realtor Linda Cook said. ‘My husband saw (the program) advertised in the paper, and I called, and it couldn’t have worked out better for us,’ Harris said.”
“Harris and her family consider Fresh Start ‘a godsend.’ ‘My husband got sick and almost died and he lost his job and the bank wouldn’t work with us to modify our mortgage,’ said Harris. ‘We lost the house and moved in with my mother. It was really, really, tough.’”
“The process took nearly two years. One of the Harris’ sons helped Harris put the episode into perspective, she said. ‘My little guy said when we were moving, ‘our house is broken, huh?’ And I said, ‘yes,’ and that’s how I see it now,’ Harris said. ‘I consider myself a homeowner again.’”
The Ventura County Star. “Housing in Southern California and Ventura County has stagnated, local experts said, with little change expected for the near future aside from the month-to-month shifts in sales and price numbers. Dennis Torres, adjunct professor and director of real estate operations at Pepperdine University, believes the housing market will remain stagnant until about 2015. Torres said there are a lot of foreclosures on the market bringing down prices — and more waiting in the wings.”
“Torres predicts a different future housing market after things turn around. He expects to see more joint-ownership of homes, with several generations living under one roof, and a return to the smaller homes of the past. American neighborhoods could start to look more like those in Europe or Japan as long-overdue inflation raises the cost of living and people reconsider what they can afford, he said.”
“‘People who have lived through this recession will never spend the same way we did years prior to the recession,’ Torres said. ‘We have felt the sting of it, the reality of it.’”
“He expects to see more joint-ownership of homes” = x3 or x4
Lesson #1 from the “va$tly-over-$old” Great Debacle:
Increa$e IOU signature’$ on future loan obligation$ from those who we cannot/should not/ought not to be i$$uing loans to in the 1st place.
“There is no silver bullet,’ he said. ‘If the expectation was to change the world and solve everyone’s problems, you were bound to be very disappointed.’”
Yea but that is exactly what the “expectation” was.
I screwed up, it’s not my fault, some else should pay.
Bail-Out nation….Politicians picking winners and losers…Corrupt and immoral….
One guy blames “loan servicer intransigence” for the problem, but I’ll bet that most loan modifications just don’t make any sense. If FB can’t pay his original mortgage, he probably can’t pay a mortgage for a reduced amount either. He probably is simply a poor credit risk.
That CRC organization sounds like a bleeding-heart group to me. From the CRC website:
Mission
The California Reinvestment Coalition (CRC) advocates for the right of low-income communities and communities of color to have fair and equal access to banking and other financial services. CRC has a membership of close to 300 nonprofit organizations and public agencies across the State.
If the FB bought in the 2005-2008 timeframe — the time of Options ARMS and low interest rates — then there probably isn’t a reduced payment mortgage out there of any stripe, barring a cramdown.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say someone is a poor credit risk. He’s just a poor credit risk at that price. I would be an excellent credit risk for a $170K house. For a $725K McMansion I would be a lousy risk.
This is why basing mortgages on FICO alone was straight-up insane. I have a very high FICO, but the most I’ve ever taken in credit is a car loan for ~10K. How does that predict my perforamance for a loan that’s at least 10 times that amount?
they know they could even paint the bathroom pink if they wanted to!’”
LOL there it is again…
Why do female realtors feel obligated to promulgate outdated sexist stereotypes of women?
Because most of them (men and women) are idiots?
Because there are a lot of women who fit the stereotype. Somebody’s got to be buying all those chick-lit books.
Right now, I’m in my studio. Where the walls used to be pink. How do I know this? Because I can still see traces of it where the klutzy previous owners didn’t mask properly.
Trust me, it would be a cold day in a warm place before I’d paint anything pink here.
Besides, if I want to look at pink on a house, all I have to do is look to the west. After my neighbor kicked her lout boyfriend out last year, guess what. Painting crew consisting of her and a bunch of kids.
I really had to contain myself as I watched this crew of amateurs neglect to prime the house. Instead, they just slapped a coating of pink over the previous green color. And they didn’t do a very good job of coverage. There’s still quite a bit of green showing.
Moral of the story: If you’re going to paint your place, take the time to do it right. That involves masking. And priming.
If you’re going to paint your place, take the time to do it right. That involves masking. And priming.
And don’t ever paint brick, if you can avoid it. Otherwise you’ll have to keep re-painting it every few years.
Or rent a sandblaster and be prepared for a mess.
That involves masking. And priming.
Don’t forget to power wash it first. Caulk the crap out of anything that looks like a gap or crack. Replace any rotted wood.
Certainly a great reason to risk your entire life savings and 30 years of debt…
I would be grateful if all they used was pink paint. I’ve seen a lot of HGTV where they had to rip out pink tile and fixtures.
(I don’t know which is worse, the pink toilet or the black toilet. The black bathroom showed up on another episode of Save My Bathroom on HGTV. The replaced the black with an even worse color scheme for which I have no good description. Some sort of gray and yellow-gold monstrosity.)
My old house in San Jose had white fixures and off-white tile in the tub enclosure - with a row of pink tile trim around it. Ugh.
I painted that room in SW desert earthtones, put in similar lino, and had the tub re-enameled. Those pink tile were camouflaged and you no longer noticed them.
Kohler makes some nice fixtures, and has some unintentionally funny names for colors.
You can order a toilet in “thunder grey” or “raspberry”.
LOL
Maybe because a lot of men don’t want a pink room? Middle daughter’s MIL redid her husband’s bathroom and trimmed it with blue bears. When he objected that it wasn’t very masculine, she said that it was because the bears were blue. Might work for a 4 yearold boy , but for a man in his 60’s? Anyway it stuck me as odd. Then again I wouldn’t decorate with bears at all. I like things simple.
I have a friend like Carne Wilson. During the bubble, she took out “equity” and spent over $300,000 on trips to Europe, Alaskan cruises, cars, et al.
I had no idea her spending was not based upon her wealth but instead came from this “equity”. I had to read that on the internet.
I thought “their”
goalflyerwassaid: “Extract equity!…put it to work”Defineidentify: “their”Does she complain she is a victim and deserves a bail out?
Yes. She is a victim. I took her out to eat and she insisted on a very fancy place and she insisted on paying for the meal. She actually ordered a large bottle of sparking water and was rather irritated when I asked for a glass of regular water.
It kinda dawned on me then that this friendship was in trouble.
Good thing to know early on.
I think you’re in my neck of the woods, so to speak.
“If completed, each home would go to market with a $1.25 million price tag. Council member Lara DeLaney questioned the figures, saying, ‘It’s going to cost over $1 million just to build each house? That’s pretty interesting.’”
The question that comes to my mind about this boondoggle is, how does Richfield Development Corporation plan to dump their losses on the taxpayer?
The question that comes to my mind about this boondoggle is, how does Richfield Development Corporation plan to dump their losses on the taxpayer?
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that’s funny
What is more interesting is who is going to buy these places?
110 Homes at $1.25 million a piece?
Are all those $500,000/year prision doctors going to move there?
That’s my main point: These places will not be salable at $1.25 million a piece. Which brings to mind the possibility the developers will seek bail wherever they can find it.
“No one seems to be able to put their finger on it exactly. I personally think it’s because the concept of home resonates so strongly with women. Regardless of our marital status, we want to come home from work to a place that feels like ours.”
Stupid is as stupid does.
Where I live is my home. If I have to make payments, at 60+ I would rather pay someone who has to do the serious maintenance than pay a bank and be responsible for it myself.
“Dennis Torres, adjunct professor and director of real estate operations at Pepperdine University, believes the housing market will remain stagnant until about 2015. Torres said there are a lot of foreclosures on the market bringing down prices — and more waiting in the wings.”
With the exception of Robert Shiller, Ivy League genius professors could never come out with such an honest statement.
We’re trying to save as much money as we can and I think we’ve learned our lesson
LOL!!!
‘People who have lived through this recession will never spend the same way we did years prior to the recession,’ Torres said.
Memo to coastal elite media pigs: about half the workers in this country earn less than $500/week.
See also prices of gas, food, health insurance, college tuition.
‘I consider myself a homeowner again.’
In other words I again have hope for unrealistic appreciation again that will make all my problems go away. Please don’t take away that hope ever again…
Here’s the other side of homeownership: It creates a lot of extra work. Which can really cut into your playtime.
A classic example happened this morning. I really wanted to go on a bike ride up A Mountain, then head over to a co-working space for a Tour de France watching party.
Well, this morning dawned bright and sunny. No rain in sight, so it was a good time to sneak up on those weeds in the backyard and pull ‘em. Bam! Got ‘em! Into the trash barrel they go!
Then there were those holes in the bathroom wall. They’re left over from when I removed a shelf. Time to fill those holes, and now they’re gone. That wall looks a lot better, TYVM.
So much for that A Mountain ride. I did make it down to the watching party, and I’m the one who’s sitting on the floor.
Usually - Murphy waits for the morning of the day you are going on vacation to have the hot water tank leak or send a tree branch through the porch roof…
nice face shot….
Yep, I do need a haircut.
nah you need to let it grow for the next 10 years….waist length hair is cool….I hate it when old wimmmin put a bowl on their head ad cut around it….you see a lot of them on springer type shows
AZ Slim
I always pictured you with light hair & tan from all that AZ sun
. . . kinda Meg Ryan/ Sissy Spacek / Mia Farrow(ish).
Nope, I come from a family of brown-haired people.
However, one of my cousins married a guy with a different sort of genetic code. They’re now divorced, but before they got to that stage, they had two kids.
One of them was a girl, and she grew up to be a blonde bombshell. A Southern California bombshell, no less.
We’re still scratching our heads, trying to figure out how this babe got into our family.
has been leasing to own a new home through a program available to qualified Solano County residents that will last only as long as its funding,
How is leasing different than renting?
They’re synonymous. But leasing has a much nicer ring to it.
“‘I’ve been in real estate a long time, and this is the best market I’ve ever seen for buyers,’ says Jan Gray, a Northern California realtor who specializes in coastal properties south of San Francisco. ‘The rates are super low…”
Every time I hear a variation of that, I can’t help but silently scream, “What do you think is going to happen to prices when rates go up???”
Don’t ask these questions - Suzanne research it.
“Every time I hear a variation of that, I can’t help but silently scream, “What do you think is going to happen to prices when rates go up???””
Bingo. And not just higher rates. The Bay Area will be impacted when the GSE loan limit drops back down to around $630K. Plus UE is still high in the Golden State. Plus higher costs for just about everything make it that much harder to save for a down payment.
The list goes on & on. Plus, I’m starting to see more MSM coverage of RE as a lousy investment.