NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Just as the housing market began to collapse near the end of 2007, a real estate agent in Bridgeport, Conn. asked Regions Bank if it would accept a $102,375 bid on a home that was underwater on its mortgage. Under the impression that this was the best offer on the home, Regions agreed to the short sale and released the mortgage it owned on the home.
Later that same day, the new owner — an investment group owned by another real estate agent — resold the home to a buyer who had been lined up before the short sale transaction went through. The final sale price: $132,500, netting the seller a cool $30,000 — a profit that should have gone to Regions.
In this latest twist on short sale fraud, scammers have found a way to rip off mortgage lenders by tens of thousands of dollars — sometimes in a matter of hours.
The scam artists, usually real estate agents, will secure a legitimate bid on a home, one where the borrower owes far more on the mortgage than the home is worth. Then they arrange for an accomplice investor to make a lower offer on the home.
Foreclosures for sale: Big supply, low prices
The agent then presents the lower bid to the lender and asks them to forgive any remaining balance owed — without disclosing that there was a higher bid made on the home. Once the short sale is approved, the scammer then sells the home to the higher bidder, often on the same day.
“These same-day resales are on average nearly $50,000 greater than the lender agreed upon short-sale price,” said Tim Grace, senior vice president of product management and analytics at CoreLogic (CLGX), a financial analytics company based in Santa Ana, Calif.
Such transactions are expected to cost lenders more than $375 million this year, up more than 20% from last year, according to CoreLogic
The anatomy of a scam
Most of the time, pulling off one of these scams involves a real estate agent and an investor acting as a “straw buyer.” Sometimes, the owner of the home is involved as well, but not often, said Robert Hagberg, an investigator for the mortgage giant Freddie Mac (FMCC, Fortune 500).
“In most instances, the sellers are apathetic; they’ve, basically, already lost their homes,” he said. With nothing to gain or lose, they allow agents to handle the entire deal.
To get the banks to approve low bids, appraisals or broker price opinions are manipulated. Home prices have plummeted in many housing markets and the house may be worth far less than what the seller paid.
Sometimes, said Hagberg, fraudsters bribe appraisers or brokers to get the prices they want but they can employ sneakier methods as well. One method: Misstating the home’s location so it’s compared with much cheaper places.
One case in California last year involved an expensive Malibu property that the agent said was in Riverside, Calif.
“It didn’t cause any alarm bells to go off at the bank,” said Grace. “The short sale went through at $200,000, which was a fifth of its value. It was turned around for $1 million.”
Sometimes an agent will point out every defect in the home to get appraisers to reduce their values, according to Hagberg. In Wisconsin, an agent left the windows open during spring rains and flooded the basement. He told the appraiser the plumbing burst and would need expensive repairs. All it really needed was a pump.
“When the flippers say there’s something wrong with the electricity, the plumbing or the roof, the appraiser can’t tell whether they’re being deceived or not,” said Hagberg.
Bankers, realtors, appraisers, investors: a real clusterfark of fraud. Gotta love it. Wash, rinse, repeat. Things haven’t changed. The example is set from the top, where the real fraudsters are: Washington and Wall Street. And until all that’s cleaned up, this will continue.
“The scam artists, usually real estate agents, will secure a legitimate bid on a home, one where the borrower owes far more on the mortgage than the home is worth. Then they arrange for an accomplice investor to make a lower offer on the home.”
Don’t those fools know that front running is only legal for large Wall Street firms and their super-computers?
It’s a scam because real-estate agents are obligated by law to present all offers. If they know the bank will take less and profit from the spread, they are breaking the law.
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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-16 08:58:09
Then why did a bank agree on it? The banks knowingly lent money to people who couldn’t pay it back, just to collect their commission and fees….
Seems like even-steven fair is fair!
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-16 10:31:21
Fair and legal are not the same.
Comment by Big V
2011-07-16 12:14:48
The bank agreed to it because they didn’t know their agent was witholding information from them.
Its a scam because the “bank” is really Fannie/Freddie. Get it now??? We pay for the $hit.
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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-16 12:40:30
“We” voted for the TBTF banks’ pet Republicrat accomplices like Obama and McCain. Meaning “we” have no right to squeal while getting bent over, since this is, after all, what “we” voted for. Except for those of us who DIDN’T vote for the status quo but are still getting bent over because of the stupidity of the mindless majority.
I believe it is important to differentiate between cases involving fraud (e.g. lying about the characteristics or location of a property in order to deceive a lender about the true value of a property) and others involving an investor doing some homework to pick up a property on the cheap from a lender which is too busy with a glut of REO to do much homework on current market conditions.
So far as I am aware, there is no law that says an investor cannot pick up properties with lowball offers from a lender, then reap the rewards of more effectively marketing the properties in order to obtain a better offer. The investor in this case is providing the lender with a service, by reducing its REO glut. Shouldn’t the investor get paid?
Of course, if the investing scheme involves misrepresenting the features of the property, the perpetrator should go to prison for fraud.
Isn’t the issue here that the realtor has a better offer already but does not present it - instead they present the lower offer as the only offer and then complete the two sales virtually on the same day? No extra “marketing” involved.
Hi. Quick ? for Polly or other legal gurus. New landlord bought the building. They wanted to amend the lease for increase in rent. I waited the few months until my year long lease end. But the lady in the office did not change the date on the amendment form. So it states new rent shall be $X starting in May. But I signed the amended (yes I should have notice the date error.) the end of May and started the paying new rate for June. But got letter from LL saying I own extra rent for May. The amout is not much. But so far they have not been good LL. Can the amendment be valid since I signed it after the date in which the rent increase was to start?
I would argue there was clearly a misunderstanding as why would you sign a new lease with a higher payment for May if you were already under contract for a lower price for May. If they cant show they offered you a lower blended rate because of covering May I would definitely put up a fuss. I would have to see the amendment to draw a final conclusion. Just because it is dated the 1st doesnt mean it is effective on the 1st. Read the text and see if it cleary says the rental period “effective” date, if it does not, standard would be that it apply to the new period only regardless of the dated date.
Contact your county landlord/tenant board to see if you have a chance. But I will tell you that back-dated contracts can be valid and if you signed the thing you might be on the hook.
I suggest consulting Craig’s List for free/low cost moving boxes. The only way to “vote” on a bad landlord it to move. I did it with my last landlord. Cost me a pretty penny too, but very satisfying.
The housing slump is far worse than you think
Key housing market statistics point to years of stagnation
By Roben Farzad
Business Week
updated 7/14/2011
8:02:50 AM ET
Ramsey says every housing statistic he tracks, including new and existing home prices and the performance of homebuilding stocks, has so far matched the pattern of prices after the bursting of other bubbles, including the Dow Jones industrial average following the crash of 1929 and Japan’s Nikkei after its 1989 peak. It starts with a steep decline lasting three or four years, followed by a brief rally that ends in years of stagnation. The Dow took 35 years to return to pre-crash levels. The Nikkei trades at less than a third of where it peaked 22 years ago. “The housing decline,” he says, “will be a long, multiyear process, and the multiplier effect across the economy will be enormous.”
Others are equally gloomy. “It’s still a vicious cycle of foreclosures, prices falling and buyers remaining on the sidelines,” says Jonathan Smoke, head of research for Hanley Wood, a housing data company. With the homeownership rate possibly headed to its pre-bubble level of 64 percent from 69 percent at the peak, Smoke calculates that the nation needs 1.6 million fewer homes that it now has. “We’ve gone through a period when we should have been tearing down houses,” he says. “The supply of total housing stock is beyond what is necessary.”
Big ripple effect
If these predictions are right, the economy will be missing a key driving force for years — and the nation will keep paying the price for what Ramsey calls the “illusory prosperity” of the housing boom. “Think about local tax revenues — what the housing bubble contributed to coffers across the country,” he says. “The ripple effect for the economy was enormous: washers, dryers, carpeting, construction jobs.” The housing wealth that has now evaporated gave Americans false expectations about economic growth and rising standards of living. Asks Ramsey: “What was real and what was never meant to be?”
The bottom line: Despite intermittent signs of recovery, the housing market may be in the midst of a slump that could last a generation.
Yes, but those two don’t count, just ask D.C. They claim that they are a variable so no need to put them in the “basket”.
Solution for J6P don’t eat and walk.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 06:28:58
Joe 6 Pack is going to meet the 3rd World’s good friends: beans and rice. And I’m not talking about burritos at Chpotle or QDoba.
Comment by measton
2011-07-16 08:20:56
Fortunately I like beans and rice. I had a 50 cent can for lunch yesterday. I guess the big benefit is that people at work will stop giving me a hard time for eating plain food as they will have the same thing on their plate.
Comment by Muggy
2011-07-16 08:25:35
Brother, can you spare some beans?
Comment by wolfgirl
2011-07-16 08:36:15
As do I. Stir-fry veggies, rice, and little meat for flavoring is plenty for me. My 23 year old son lives off ramen with a little chicken, fresh fruit with an occasional chick fila meal when he has an unusually long day on campus. I havae ,managed t expand his cooing some this summer. He finally learned how not to burn rice. Fortunately he does not care much for junk food or fast food.
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-16 09:38:39
You can do even better than 50 cents. Make your own beans. Put in a sealed container in a cooler and bring them to work along with your pre-cooked rice. The bonus is you control the sodium level. I’m supposed to be on a low sodium diet so I go to restaurants only on occasions and prepare my own food.
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-16 12:42:50
A former Lebanese neighbor taught me how to make a great lentil stew that I serve over rice. Cheap healthy eats with no Monsanto Frankenfoods or preservatives.
Take note that General Mills is raising the price of its products because they expect a decline in sales volume.
Price your product at whatever price you want but if people do not have the money to buy then they won’t.
People who have the cash get to buy what they want and what they need.
People without the cash get to watch.
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Comment by measton
2011-07-16 08:25:52
People who don’t have the cash for GM can just buy the basics fk GM. People can grow their own food if they have a bit of land and lower their food bill as well. We have a 4×8ft plot and haven’t had to buy lettuce or beans for 4 weeks now. Tomato pots will supply tomatoes for the summer and beyond.
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-16 14:25:49
“Take note that General Mills is raising the price of its products because they expect a decline in sales volume. “
What have I been saying about voodoo, er, “supply side” economics?
Supply and demand? Tell that fairy tale to the children.
Comment by clark
2011-07-16 23:30:25
Combo says, “Price your product at whatever price you want but if people do not have the money to buy then they won’t. ”
And if the producer lowers the price they go out of business creating a scarcity which increases the price of the remaining goods.
You’re ignoring the population of the rest of the world who will bid up prices.
Or a used car. Even other used goods. Being in the “stuff” biz, it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it. Even new goods, I’ve seen some major price hikes in the big box stores recently. LMAO! It’s the death spiral, actually. Companies start getting frantic and raise their prices under the guise of “savings”, perception is reality and all that. People buy less, prices go up to compensate. Wash, rinse, repeat.
At least that’s what I’m seeing anecdotally. Even ebay, that bastion of “bargains”, just recently upped their rates by instituting “commissions” on shipping costs. Cute little maneuver, they reduced the overall commission rate, but included shipping in the overall cost of the item they’re charging commission on and presented it as a “savings” to their customers (sellers who use the service). You know they ran the numbers on this before they did it.
So I wish I could agree with you, combo, but I’m not seeing it. I love bacon, but I’m just not going to pay for it, it’s not like I HAVE to eat it.
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Comment by combotechie
2011-07-16 06:15:30
“… it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it.”
Which is my point.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 06:26:39
“… it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it.”
I saw this first hand in Mexico during the inflation years. Used goods actually appreciated in value (in nominal pesos). Of course new goods prices skyrocketed even more.
I know the econ textbooks say that were suppose to get deflation, but as long as our currency continues to be debased via serial QEs and we are dependent on imports for our basic needs, inflation will rule the day.
In Mexico inflation didn’t stop until they did one thing: turn off the printing press. It worked, but the process was unbelievably painful and it took YEARS until they came out of the tunnel. And by painful I mean that Mexican society almost completely unravelled, and that was before the rise of narcoviolence.
Now imagine soft Americans being subject to that kind of hardship. And unlike Mexico we don’t have the luxury of exporting our surplus population.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 06:36:51
Speaking about used cars, the available inventory has fallen off a cliff. The volume of used cars offered for sale at cars dot com has shrunk by half in my neck of the woods and asking prices are as high as ever.
3 years ago you could buy a decent, low mileage American car for about 10 grand. Today 10K buys you a much older,high mileage (close to 100K) car. I’m seeing asking prices on 2 year old cars that approach what those cars cost when new. Of course new car prices are sky high, with even “compact” 4 cylinder cars starting as high as the low 20’s, which is what I paid for my Lacrosse in 2006 (new 6 cylinder Lacrosses are in the low to high 30’s now).
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-16 06:49:33
Your used car price information is an example of what I am trying to get across.
People need a car but they do not have the money to buy a new one so they have to settle for a used one. So the competition for used cars rises and drives up the prices. At the same time the volume of new cars drop off.
The prices of new cars are high but the sales volume is dropping. The price of used cars is rising because the sales volume is rising.
One set of cars - the new ones - have a nominal price but doesn’t have the sales. But this nominal price is what goes into the inflation figures.
The other set of cars has an actual price which is also rising and these prices also go into the inflation figures.
So the total inflation figures are pumped up from both sets of car prices - the nominal new cars prices and the actual used car prices.
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-16 06:53:45
and how many good running used cars were destroyed on purpose with the cash for clunkers scam?
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 07:28:14
“At the same time the volume of new cars drop off.”
True, but automakers have changed their gamebook.
The old game plan was: keep sales levels up at any cost. Which meant humongous rebates and discounts which in the end translated into huge losses and bankruptcies
The new playbook is: sales volumes can fall as long as we sell the cars for a profit.
My point is that lack of demand need not result in lower prices as the Econ 101 textbooks insist.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 07:31:37
“and how many good running used cars were destroyed on purpose with the cash for clunkers scam?”
690,000 cars were destroyed under the program, and I suspect that a big % of them really were clunkers that were on their way to the junkyard anyway.
It’s worth remembering that only “gas guzzlers” were eligble for the credit. And there was no trade in credit either as the cars had to be scrapped.
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-16 07:47:55
“My point is that lack of demand need not result in lower prices as the Econ 101 textbooks insist.”
The true picture of what is happening is found in cash flows, not in prices.
Prices can be listed at any level but the cash has to flow if the prices are to be considered realistic. And if the prices are not realistic then the cash will not flow.
But cash flows are not what is being measured, prices are.
If people do not have the money to pay the prices then the prices will not be paid, the cash will not flow.
The cash that does flow will flow to those items that have lower prices.
It’s not all about price, its all about cash flow.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-16 09:00:30
“If people do not have the money to pay the prices then the prices will not be paid, the cash will not flow.”
And as long as vendors remain profitable at lower sales volumes, prices will not come down.
Other than real estate, have prices come down in Japan during the two lost decades?
Comment by SV guy
2011-07-16 09:30:40
Combo,
Me thinks your analysis lacks the appropriate market collusion/corruption element factor.
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-16 09:51:22
“As long as vendors remain profitable at lower sales volumes, prices will not come down.”
And when sales volumes drop far enough then the vendor will go out of business and the price may then skyrocket.
It may skyrocket not because the demand has grown but because the supply has dropped. If there is any demand at all and the supply goes to zero then the price can rise to infinity.
How much would you pay for spare parts to fix your car? If you had a choice of vendors then the price would be determined by the lowest priced vendor. If there was one vendor his price would be the one you would have to pay. If there was no vendor then even if you paid an infinite price you would still not get to fix your car.
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-16 09:55:44
You can have rising prices in a deflating - or any type of economy - as long as demand exceeds supply.
In a deflating economy demand declines but supply may decline even faster. If that is the case then one should reasonably expect prices to rise.
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-16 10:59:36
The rising price of gas and commodities is not because of inflation. It is because of massive speculation by those who think the party is just getting started. It is not. It is shutting down. The age of credit is ending. This is really very simple. The contraction pains can be seen in many corners. You only have to look a little past the price of tortillas. Rig for deflation and keep your powder dry for the minimum pain over the next decade. And get out of debt if you can. Just sayin.
Comment by Big V
2011-07-16 12:26:20
“Soft Americans”
We built this country, dearie. Our first course of action (as you may have noticed) is to kick out the Mexicans. Americans have more know-how than anyone else, as evidenced by the pilgrims and pioneers who made this a place to which Mexicans flock.
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-16 12:51:07
The “pilgrims and pioneers” who created this nation’s former greatness were cut out of far different cloth than today’s slothful, indulgent, crassly materialistic and self-absorbed Americans. Most of the Mexicans who “flock” here as you put it are far more commendable human beings from the standpoint of having a much stronger work ethic and superior family values to those of us fortunate enough to have been born citizens. Let’s not demonize a entire category of people for the “crime” of seeking greater opportunity and a better life.
Comment by Big V
2011-07-16 12:56:30
Sorry Sammy, but that’s my cloth your talking about. We are the type who will kick out the Mexicans, just like we kicked out the Indians. The vast majority of US citizens are clamoring to kick them out and oh, look, it’s starting to work. Wages, anyone?
Next up: Offshoring.
Comment by shendi
2011-07-16 15:02:40
Colorado said “Other than real estate, have prices come down in Japan during the two lost decades?”
Nope. Steadily rising over the years - especially food. No question. Clothes were always expensive in Japan compared to US & Europe due to better quality and design. But during the last two decades price of normal everyday clothes has steadily increased. Nowadays one can see Japanese designed clothes being imported from China for some major Japanese brands. Then you have the casual store - Uniqlo - where every article is made in China. The price range for Jeans is 3500Y to 5000Y. Way more expensive than Levis here in the USA, but better styling and make quality than Levis. Almost 90% of all denim for major brands comes from India. So denim quality is roughly the same (incl. blends of polyester with denim for some european brands to make light weight jeans!)
Comment by shendi
2011-07-16 15:14:33
Further, most kids stay with their parents until they get married. In Tokyo, some stay in one bed studio that their parents bought during the bubble era (these are called mansions - meaning studio apartments: eg. 1DK - one bed room + dining kitchen, 2DK …)
Most students with graduate degrees (at least 3 years BA etc.) have reduced prospects to get into the workforce. Their only prospect is to work on quasi minimum salaried positions paying anywhere between 600Y to 1000Y per hour. If the business closes then one has to get a new job. The savings / pension of their parents keep these kids going.
Same story will likely be repeated here in the US. Someone mentioned here that the developed world really does not need to buy much more - all the things they need to live life comfortably, they already own - however, the purchase of junk goods continues. If you look at the markets the real growth will come from pedaling cheap “western” designed goods to third world countries at those prices. The real issue is that the working population turnover is not enough to get the young people into the workforce to support the industries.
For the US, growth can be expected once the boomer generation gets out of the workforce. That decision could be self driven or forced by nature. These will be another tough 2 decades or so.
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-16 17:03:32
so we will all be Apple customers? It look like the days are over for having “stuff” everything will be mobile… a couple of laptops hooked to a big screen iphone ipad so you can live in 1/2 the space….and the landlord can make twice as many smaller apartments and make double the money.
Those McMansions sure look good for rooming houses Big 60″ communal tv, wifi, office laser printers in the common areas and furnish rooms so very little stuff will be moved in or out….
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-16 17:41:54
“It is because of massive speculation by those who think the party is just getting started. It is not. It is shutting down.”
Exactly. Things are starting to come apart. What’s not getting much MSM publicity is the massive surge in armed robberies, etc. There are uncountable numbers of people, unemployed, who no longer qualify for benefits, and who have no money and no chance to earn it. Let’s call them “takers.” They’re starting to “take” what they need. There is no other way.
But even with room and board, net costs declined at private nonprofit institutions and public 2-year colleges between 2005-06 and 2010-11.
However, it is important to differentiate between published tuition and fees and actual college costs. The College Board points out that about two-thirds of students receive grant aid, and others typically take advantage of federal tax credits and deductions to help defray costs.
Taking this into consideration, net costs have actually declined over the past five years for most groups when you adjust for inflation
This is due partially to an increase in the availability of student aid, particularly Federal Pell Grants and veterans’ benefits. And institutional grant aid helped keep net college costs particularly for low-income students at private nonprofit institutions.
Nevertheless, college remained unaffordable for many American families. The effect of the economic downturn on family finances was significant:
Private colleges are still prohibitively expensive, even with their bogus, partial scholarships.
Our mailbox was stuffed with 20K per year scholarship offers for our daughter from 2nd tier private schools. Problem was that there was still 20K+ left to pay per year.
So she went to the local state U, where tuition keeps going up, but is still far cheaper than the local private schools like the University of Denver or Regis. The state U’s here offer a piddling $2000 scholarship to kids who graduate in the top 5% of their class (Mesa State College in Grand Juntion does offer tuition free deals to those kids).
“This is due partially to an increase in the availability of student aid, particularly Federal Pell Grants and veterans’ benefits”
You have to be a pauper to qualify for a Pell grant. As in your family gets food stamps. Sure there’s a lot of financial aid for middle class students … in the form of loans.
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-16 06:48:10
The cost of education…in the US has soared in recent decades while median incomes have stagnated… In the past decade, tuition rates at public universities have risen 5.6% a year above inflation…
“Over the past 60 years,” says Jim O’Neill, head of the Thiel Foundation, “owning a house became part of the American Dream. People were told: ‘buy a house, don’t worry about the price; you’ll earn it all back later.’ Now it’s the same thing with college.”
But given that almost everyone needs food, gas and shelter, higher food and gas prices should be deflationary for shelter prices, especially during an era of high unemployment and stagnant income growth.
If you already bought a house, as about 60% of all Americans have, then falling house prices not only won’t help you, they’ll hurt you as you get shoved down into Davey Jone’s Locker.
And how many NEW city halls police stations office buildings were built with this excess money and how much debt was taken on amazing….gotta have a new $100 mill building we have builders lined up to build 25,000 new homes, think of all the new tax revenues …we’ll pay it off…honest…
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Think about local tax revenues — what the housing bubble contributed to coffers across the country
From the article: Simon also points to the affordability index, which measures the ability of a family with the median national income to buy a median-price home at current mortgage rates. The index is near an all-time high and double its level in 2006 at the peak of the bubble — meaning buyers should find many more homes within their budgets. “I would never have believed this index could get so high,” he says. A rise in affordability should have spurred purchases, boosting prices and keeping a lid on the index. “What this instead means to me is that the credit is not available to most people,” he says. “Houses aren’t cheap if you can’t get the loan.” Simon worries that the problem will get worse in October, when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration drop the maximum mortgage they will buy to $625,000 from $729,750 as a temporary increase expires.
What’s not meantioned is the birth dearth among young upper income and educated Americans (20-somethings and 30-somethings). The demographics just is not there to sustain the price level of houses today. I would say it is reasonable to suggest 20 percent fewer families headed by 20-somethings and 30-somethings these days compared to 31 years ago should take another 30 percent off the prices of houses - call that the reverse premium. Simon, in the above article conservatively thinks current prices will decline another 6 to 8%. So let’s say 40% more decline. Since Phoenix prices dropped 50 or 60 percent, I would think somewhere between 20 percent and 30 percent additional price drops in the next ten years are likely for Phoenix.
Also not mentioned in the article: It’s the jobs, stupid! People feel less secure about jobs, even those currently employed. Lots of people had to take pay cuts for their current jobs.
People are wiser these days to not get into the RE committment trap. A mortgage is slavery, more so now that we are in a deep recession. Only a fool would assume his job/income will last as long as his mortgage today and also he’d foolishly assume that he could get a similar paying job within weeks of terminating his current job.
“It’s still a vicious cycle of foreclosures, prices falling and buyers remaining on the sidelines,”
This needs to be challenged.
Are buyers actually “remaining on the sidelines”? Or is the truth really the fact that there are no buyers at current prices? Or are there just plain no buyers because everyone has shelter and we have excess housing units?
Good point. Some buyers may remain on the sidelines by choice, but many are simply priced out by the perfect storm of lending standards reverting to historical levels of prudence juxtaposed against government-sponsored efforts to artificially prop up home prices.
I am sure this was posted but anything that has “ominous shadow” in it deserves a second look. Knute, she’s headed for the rhubarb!
Bank Delays May Push 1 Million U.S. Foreclosure Filings to 2012
By Dan Levy -
Jul 14, 2011 12:00 AM ET
Lender delays in processing home- loan defaults will push as many as 1 million U.S. foreclosure filings from this year to 2012 or beyond, casting an “ominous shadow” on the housing market, according to RealtyTrac Inc.
“If you accept the premise that foreclosures are the black cloud hanging over the market, we’re not going to get price stability and people won’t leave the sidelines until that cloud is cleared away,” Nicolas Retsinas, professor of real estate at Harvard Business School in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said in a telephone interview.
3.2 Million Forecast
RealtyTrac in January forecast as many as 3.2 million foreclosure filings for 2011. Delays have persisted as state attorneys general investigate “robo-signing,” the practice of pushing through documents without verifying their accuracy. Total filings for the year are likely to be about 2 million at the current pace, compared with 2.9 million in all of 2010, Rick Sharga, senior vice president, said in a phone interview
All of the banks are hoping the Titanic will stop sinking and be under way shortly. That is the only way they can come out of this ok. All the while, ice cold water continues to pour unchecked into the fractured hull as the ship slowly settles beneath the waves. At what point do they panic? There will be panic.
I never did either. In 1978 during our first scrimmage against Wilton a bit of a ruckus broke out and as it was being broken up by both coaching staffs when one of our starting defensive tackles screamed… Knute, she’s headed for the rhubarb! Everybody stopped and looked at the big dope with snot hanging out of his nose and a half crazed look on his face.
After the scrimmage in the locker room we asked him what it meant. He had no idea, and had no idea where he had ever heard it. Anyway for the rest of that season whenever there was a big hit we would scream Knute, she’s headed ‘fer the rhubarb!
I just googled it and this was the answer I got.
Pat Brady, Roy Rogers’ sidekick, had a favorite expression. What was it?
Dimon Says Mortgage Clash Swells as ‘Everybody Is Going to Sue’
By Rick Green -
Jul 14, 2011 3:14 PM ET
“There have been so many flaws in mortgages that it’s been an unmitigated disaster,” Dimon said during a conference call today. “We just really need to clean it up for the sake of everybody. And everybody is going to sue everybody else, and it’s going to go on for a long time.”
“We just really need to clean it up for the sake of everybody. And everybody is going to sue everybody else, and it’s going to go on for a long time.”
Read between the lines on this one, especially if Dimon is touting it. What he’s really saying, IMO, is: huge, broad action settling this in favor of the banksters, with no future option to sue.
Whirlpool is laying off 350 employees at the plant in Amana,Iowa.
Employees were told today of the the “employee reduction” which will be effective August 1st. The layoffs will impact 50 employees hired for temporary summer work and 300 full time employees.
again no one in the media will ask are you still making a profit?
Its the biggest question reporters avoid….next they will be moving the plant to mexico…even thought it IS making a profit …. Maytag did this a few years back in ohio and the unions were livid….
When I worked at HP my in-laws asked if HP “was in trouble” when they learned of the never ending waves of layoffs. They were stunned to learn that HP was superprofitable at the time.
Again all part of the theft from the American middle class.
It boggles my mind that there are so many on the right who consider taxes on the elite punitive when they have been instrumental in looting the jobs and savings of the middle class, intentionally or not. Why do we give preferential treatment to capital gains and dividends, these earnings were already given preferential treatment in the form of trade policy.
I don’t know if anyone here saw this a few days ago but CISCO is going to lay off 10,000 of its employees in the upcoming months. IIRC, that is 14% of its work force. That is nationwide. CISCO is in Silicon Valley as well as across the U.S. I have a gal friend working at CISCO in North Carolina.
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt asked Friday that a judge reduce the financial support he must pay his ex-wife Jamie, saying the amount of money he paid her last year is more than he will make this year.
“I simply cannot afford to support [her] lifestyle any longer,” McCourt wrote in a filing with the Los Angeles Superior Court.
He asked that Jamie McCourt be ordered to pay all costs associated with the couple’s seven homes — perhaps by renting some or all — or that the properties be sold immediately. The court set an Aug. 10 hearing date.
Frank McCourt said his income this year would be $5 million. In accordance with court orders, Frank McCourt said he paid Jamie McCourt $7.76 million over the past year, to cover temporary spousal support and to maintain the couple’s seven homes. In comparison, Frank McCourt said he spent $600,642 on “my own personal expenses and lodging.”
[UPDATED 3:39 p.m.: The statement from Ryan Kirkpatrick, an attorney for Frank McCourt:
“Jamie McCourt continues to live a lifestyle that simply is not sustainable. She has seven homes which Frank pays for, and despite many requests, she has refused to sell or rent any of them. No one needs seven houses. Beyond covering her home expenses, Frank has been paying her $225,000 a month to support her unrestrained style of living. Today’s request by Frank simply reflects economic reality.”
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(FRANK FRANKLIN II) It’s easy to understand why the government will have more trouble borrowing if it fails to pay its debts, or even has a difficult time paying its debts. It’s a bit harder to see why ordinary Americans, the city of Pittsburgh, hospitals in Iowa, and medium-sized corporations will have more trouble borrowing. But they will. And their trouble borrowing is the main channels through which a default, or even something too close to it for the market’s comfort, could deal a body blow to the economy.
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The 2008 economic crisis wasn’t started by a nuclear bomb detonating in New York, or a campaign to sabotage the country’s factories, or a plague that struck our able-bodied young males. Rather, investors bought a lot of debt based on subprime mortgages. They performed some tricky financial wizardry that they thought made the debt low-risk. They found out they were wrong. And then, because the players in the financial system no longer knew how much money anyone had, the credit markets froze and the economy crashed.
Now imagine that happening, not with the housing market, but with the government of the United States of America. The cornerstone of the global financial economy is the idea that Treasuries are risk-free. If they’re not, then like in the financial crisis, no one knows how much money anyone who holds treasuries has. But they also don’t know how much money anyone who depends on the federal government — be they businesses or individuals — holds.
This is how a default gets into the rest of the economy: It takes everything the financial markets thought they could know and rely on and upends it. It then shuts off credit, or makes it prohibitively expensive, for nearly every participant in the economy, from states and cities to hospitals and universities to homebuyers and credit-card applicants. That, in turn, freezes all of their activity, which destabilizes everyone who relies on them, which then destabilizes financial markets further, and so on.
It was one thing to have forgotten that this sort of thing could happen in 2006, when America hadn’t seen it for 70 years. But we just went through it. And if we go through it again, the Federal Reserve, which has pushed interest rates as low as they can go, and Congress, which has vastly expanded the deficit, have a lot less ammunition left for a response.
Are we likely to get to that point? No, of course not. But between here and there are worlds where the economy doesn’t crash, but because the federal government panics the market, interest rates rise and the economy slows. In a recovery this weak, that would be a disaster. And it would be entirely of our own making.
WASHINGTON — As the pitched battle over the nation’s debt crisis shifts to the White House, federal employees in Maryland are bracing for a series of benefit cuts they say would have a devastating effect on the state’s economy.
Months after more than 200,000 federal workers in Maryland were hit with a two-year pay freeze to help reduce a $1.3 trillion budget deficit, many say they now are worried lawmakers are eying government retirement plans and health benefits for cuts in the scramble to strike a deal to raise the debt ceiling.
The government has until Aug. 2 to raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit or risk defaulting on the nation’s obligations. Republicans and many Democrats want significant budget cuts before they agree to lift that cap.
“Federal employees didn’t cause the deficit, why are we taking the big hit?” asked Joe McGeeney, the president of the local union that represents security workers at Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. “We know that Congress has to do a whole lot, but why start with federal employees?”
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“Federal employees didn’t cause the deficit, why are we taking the big hit?” asked Joe McGeeney, the president of the local union that represents security workers at Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. “We know that Congress has to do a whole lot, but why start with federal employees?”
- Yea and neither did the self-employed guy, or the millions of folks that don’t work for the federal gov. You act as if it’s unfair Joe.
Fairness doesn’t seem to have much to do with what is happening these days. For instance, in what way was it fair for the federal government to step in and make good on billions of dollars in AIG bonus payments during the Fall 2008 financial collapse? I bet those billions of dollars could have gone far to keep your rank-and-file federal workers’ kids in shoes for the next few years.
It will not come to this. Now the big businesses and banks are coming out and asking for the debt limit to be raised. Repubs will heed the wishes of their masters. But the deal won’t be done until the last hour. 2 more weeks of bad TV if you ask me.
A US default isn’t a matter of “if” but “when,” David Murrin, chief investment officer at Emergent Asset Management, told CNBC.
“It’s inevitable that the US will default – it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline – and that its financial system will go with it,” he said.
In his book “Breaking the Code of History,” Murrin argues that the balance of power has shifted away from the West, with America as the superpower, towards the East, led by China.
He believes the US cannot afford to compete with the rise of Eastern powers.
“It’s very simple, its (America’s) empire system, its financial system is in decline, we’ve seen very little growth for over a decade apart from financial engineering and leveraging, which ultimately caused the debt crisis of 2008,” Murrin said.
“The only similar example is Britain. It was once an empire and when it lost its power over (the Suez Canal crisis of 1956) it had a large amount of loans outstanding to the Empire, and America owned most of that,” Murrin said. “That was the power America had over Britain and it ended the pound, but their values were very similar in terms of global geo-politics and the world didn’t really change that much.”
For investors wondering where to look in this environment, Murrin said one thing is clear: “You probably shouldn’t own dollar- denominated assets.”
“It’s inevitable that the US will default – it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline – and that its financial system will go with it,”
To reduce our empire is not a gloomy prospect. Last time I checked, England still has a stock market, it still has productivity. It has some tech companies making technological advances.
Yes I am glad someone said America will default sooner or later. To raise the debt limit is to merely postpone default. Realistically, most people want a free lunch. Government refuses to cut itself. It was only successful cutting military spending across the board in the 1990s. It must do the same thing again, but include welfare, housing subsidies, food subsidies, any kind of subsidies to the lazy.
From 1790 up to the dawn of WW I, the US got most of its revenue from tariffs, in most years it was 100%. near the first world war it was 68 percent. With the passage of the 16th amendment tariffs dropped tremendously.
In recent times the NAFTA and other free trade agreements locked the U.S. Out of tariffs.
Ron Paul wants to end all the taxes except fund the US government by tariffs and excise taxes. Makes a helluva lot of sense now that we import more while exporting jobs and have less and less things other countries want. We will be forced to have a small government once again, and not be able to finance wars and be world cop
Then you never clicked on my link on my handle when i put it there
The rap music is a big factor in the whole disintegration going on right now. Rap music cannot survive if people spoke English.
But no one will speak up because its culturally insensitive phooy! I have seen this for years first it was cool, then its became a lifestyle. And now its all out war on decent citizens.
2 of them N thugs robbed a 72 year old man of 7 CENTS 7 CENTS, them folks beating up a tranny till she passed out and then taping it…….all comes back to the music….and of course the parents who are probably just as dumb as their kids.
So how do we fix it….well we have a non Caucasian in the white house who could say something but he hasn’t.
So its up to people like Nuge and the rest of us to end political correctness NOW.
Its the staus-quo that wants dem peeps to remain stupid ..not me!
One can’t take this man seriously. He only slams one party which shows he’s either stupid, ignorant or his biases overcome objectivity. But in that maybe he does represent the common man.
Well you are right about that Rio. Ol’ Teddy didn’t mention R’s in his spiel. I hope he realizes there are pariah’s on both sides of the aisle. I just like seeing a prominent person voicing his outrage at the system. Even if we don’t agree totally we can both agree the current system sucks. And suck it does!
I wouldn’t want to get into an argument with Ted. A silver tongued motor mouth if there ever was one!
For years, the government was able to purchase prescription drug prices through Medicaid at a big discount. Republicans changed the law in 2006 as part of creating Medicare Part D, which privatized the negotiating process.
Restoring the previous system could save taxpayers more than $100 billion over the next 10 years, and in theory, all of those savings could be applied to a debt-reduction deal.
The problem, of course, is the House Majority Leader, who wants to maintain the status quo, even if it costs billions more, and who just happens to be the beneficiary of enormous campaign contributions from drug makers.
“Restoring the previous system could save taxpayers more than $100 billion over the next 10 years, and in theory, all of those savings could be applied to a debt-reduction deal.”
What does saving taxpayers money have to do with hitting up Big Pharma for campaign contributions?
Seriously where the F were the T party types when this went through. I remember when GW pushed this trough and actuaries were threatened to not divulge the true cost to congress.
In wi we had a program that saved seniors millions on prescription drugs by leveraging their buying power. We just did away with this program in favor of medicare part d stripping millions of dollars from the state.
With Europe engulfed in debt-panic and the European Central Bank (ECB) becoming a huge “bad bank” for unpayable debt assets, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke stepped into the breach July 13 by announcing to the House Financial Services Committee that the Federal Reserve is preparing a QEIII, with more expansion of its asset book. Stocks and the Euro momentarily soared, the dollar plunged.
Bernanke seemed to be defying what just-released minutes of June 22 Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting showed, namely, that only “a few members” were in favor of even considering another round of “monetary stimulus,” or money-printing. A few hours after Bernanke’s announcement in Congress, Dallas Fed president Richard Fisher said in a speech there, “We’ve exhausted our ammunition, in my view, and expanding the Fed’s balance sheet from about $2.7 trillion to more than $3 trillion might spook the marketplace. I do not personally see the benefit of more monetary accommodation even if the economy weakens further.” One day earlier, retiring Kansas City Fed chief Thomas Hoenig, no doubt aware of what Bernanke would do, had blasted Fed money-printing in a speech: “Part of our basic problem worldwide and here in the U.S., is that the emperor has no clothes and no one’s willing to say it. You print money, print money, and print money, but you don’t create real wealth.”
All commentary focussed on the fact that Bernanke was trying to save the Euro single currency—a hopeless task, and one that leads the Fed further into violating even the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Note that on June 29, the Fed extended unlimited currency swap lines of credit to the ECB and the Swiss, British, Canadian, and Japanese central banks. The ECB is being widely described as a “European bad bank” in the growing debt crisis, as it has lowered the standards for the collateral assets it is buying from banks, to below junk grade, and is buying from private equity funds, hedge funds, and investment banks. Will the Fed now be directly buying European sovereign debt, or European bank bonds, in support of the floundering ECB? Without waiting to find out, QEIII should be stopped.
An interesting report appearing July 6 on the financial analysis website “Zero Hedge”, used Federal Reserve flow-of-funds and bank reserves charts to show that all $600 billion of the so-called QEII money-printing appeared to go offshore to big Inter-Alpha and other European banks. The Fed’s purchases of Treasuries with its newly printed reserves from November 2010 to June 30, 2011 evidently were overwhelmingly from BNP Paribas, RBS, Barclays, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, and UBS. The “Zero Hedge” analyst concluded: “The only beneficiary of the reserves generated were US-based branches of foreign banks (which in turn turned around and funnelled the cash back to their domestic branches), a shocking finding which explains … why US banks have been unwilling and unable to lend out these reserves.”
Arguably, this violates the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, even with its 1932 “exigent and unusual circumstances” amendment, which still requires AAA-rated collateral in the form of U.S. Treasuries or equivalent, for the Fed lending to any “non-bank.”
But on more fundamental Constitutional grounds, an attempt to repeat this in a QEIII would be barred—and the QEII effects could be reversed—by immediate passage of legislation restoring the Glass-Steagall Act through both Houses of Congress. Under Glass-Steagall, not only were commercial banks separated from various kinds of securities-speculation and insurance firms. The Glass-Steagall principle is that only those commercial banks, thus separated, in the Federal Reserve System—U.S. banks—are eligible for Federal support in the form of discount window and special lending, deposit insurance, and other protective regulation. All the big European banks are famously “banking supermarkets” stuffed with investment banking arms, speculative hedge funds, insurance divisions, money-market funds, etc.
The current trans-Atlantic bad-debt bubble, imploding in Europe now, does not qualify for such lending or support; that gambling debt should be left on the shoulders of those who bet on it. Glass-Steagall passage would stop this latest panic bailout.
There has been NO keynesian theory at work. We’ve been spending and going into debt during good times and bad. Even if one looks at total gov spending during this crash it’s hard to call it keynesian. State and local gov have slashed spending which has offset most of the federal spending.
and this time it may occ at the same time the federal gov is cutting spending.
Cue combotechie
The point is that there has been no significant increase in total gov spending and the gov spent like a drunken sailor even during the good times, thus Keynesian theory is not to blame.
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Comment by clark
2011-07-16 23:26:26
There has been NO keynesian theory at work. We’ve been spending and going into debt during good times and bad.
Oh that makes a lot of sense, Just like a hangover can’t be blamed on the drinking the night before?
No, No, they will hold their course and bash on and on. It really is funny to watch and listen to though. I for one have been getting a kick out of them for years. Cheap entertainment.
It must REALLY suck to be a gold short these days. JP Morgan and HSBC are reputed to have massive naked short positions in silver - wondering how that’s working out for them.
Someone should tell this clown to give it up, he does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of being elected.
Nearly 1/2 of Newt Gingrich’s campaign debt is from private airplanes
~ Daily Caller
FEC reports released Friday show that former Speaker Newt Gingrich’s campaign has $1,030,627.82 in debt.
He blames his consultants who resigned en masse last month. But the Gingrich campaign’s FEC report shows that nearly half of the debt comes from charting private airplanes. More specifically, the campaign owes $451,946.00 to Moby Dick Airways LTD.
Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond tells me Gingrich was unaware of the financial situation until the consultants left. Once problems became apparent, Gingrich made several changes — “part of which included replacing private travel with commercial.”
Speaking of consultants, Gingrich’s campaign also paid them a lot of money this quarter, but still owes $20,616.80 to Norway Hill Associates Inc. — the consulting company headed by ex-Gingrich senior advisor Dave Carney.
Hammond tells me that Gingrich is not replacing most of his consultants, an additional step he is taking to turn around the campaign’s financial situation.
Like F&F give a crap, they have the biggest chumps in the world backing them up…The U.S. taxpayers.
ITEM: S&P warns it may downgrade Fannie, Freddie credit
WASHINGTON (AP) — Standard & Poor’s warned mortgage giants Fannie Me and Freddie Mac on Friday that they may lose their top credit ratings if lawmakers don’t raise the U.S. government’s borrowing limit in time to avoid a default.
S&P said government-controlled Fannie and Freddie, along with certain Federal Home Loan Banks and Farm Credit System Banks, could also default on their debts, given each institution’s “direct reliance on the U.S. government.”
The rating agency this week threatened to lower the U.S. government’s credit rating if the White House and Congress can’t agree to raise the $14.3 trillion borrowing limit and avoid a default in the coming weeks. It said there was at least a one-in-two likelihood that it will lower the rating within the next 90 days.
On Wednesday, Moody’s Investors Services said it is also reviewing the government’s triple-A bond rating.
The government reached its borrowing limit in May. The Treasury Department has said that the government will default on its debt if the limit isn’t raised by Aug. 2.
Congressional and Obama administration officials met for a sixth day Friday in an effort to avert a default. But Obama conceded that “we’re running out of time.”
Attention has turned to a fallback plan being discussed by Senate Republicans and Democrats. The plan would give the president greater authority to raise the borrowing limit while setting procedures in motion that could lead to federal spending cuts.
Administration officials and economists say a default on the debt would have a devastating effect on the U.S. economy.
I remember when Obama vowed “blank-check” support to Fannie and Freddie (it was pushed through on midnight on christmas, I think). How does that work with the debt ceiling?
Our state paper has fought tooth and nail for a long,long time trying only to put a positive spin on RE. At least for once they have printed an article that fairly well tells what’s going on here.
- Home sales in Columbia and across South Carolina have been set back more than a decade as the economy struggles to recover.
The State - News - Local / Metro Jul. 16, 2011
And experts say sales won’t improve in the foreseeable future.
Sales were down 24 percent to 3,088 through the first six months of the year in the Columbia area. Statewide, sales were down 11 percent to 22,881, according to a report released Friday by the S.C. Realtors trade group.
Columbia area home sales fared worst among the state’s major areas, according to the report. The state’s coastal regions are the only ones that showed slight increases for the first half of the year.
The last time the Columbia area averaged 500 sales a month – as it did in the first half of 2011 – was in the 1990s, said Jay Graham, a real estate agent with more than three decades of experience in the Midlands market. “That’s our new normal. That’s where we’re at, like it or not.”
Statewide, sales are back to where they were around 2001, said Nick Kremydas, executive director of the S.C. Realtors trade group. But inventory levels and the number of days that homes are staying on the market before they sell are higher, he said.
Home sellers in South Carolina waited almost five months to sell their homes in the first six months of the year, about two weeks longer than the same period last year. In Columbia, they waited four months, a nearly three-week increase from the previous year.
And there is a 15-month supply of homes on the market now, compared with 14.7 months a year ago statewide and 12 months a year ago in Columbia. A healthy housing market has about a six-month supply.
The median price of homes sold during the first half of the year was down 2 percent to $146,000. The Columbia market fared better as home prices held steady at close to $140,000.
“I don’t think we’re ready to say what the new normal is,” Kremydas said. “The sales are still erratic. I’m not ready to say we are even out of this recession until we see some job creation. The unemployment numbers are staggering.”
Unemployment in South Carolina stands at 10 percent.
“When unemployment gets back to the 5 percent range, things might change, but not until then,” Graham said.
Earlier this week, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke hinted at the possibility of more government stimulus money if the fledgling recovery falters.
But Graham says that is a bad idea.
“Bringing back the government punch bowl” – as the government did last year, when it offered incentives to first-time home buyers – artificially inflates sales and drags out the pain, he said. “Let it do what it’s going to do. If it needs to fall, let it fall.”
Kremydas said two measures in Congress further could stall a recovery.
The Dodd-Frank Act opened the door for Congress to require home buyers to make 20 percent down payments when buying a home. “It’s a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction to some of the financial meltdown that we have experienced recently.”
Home buyers who used a government program that required a smaller down payment would have to pay a higher interest rate, he said. “We’re concerned as an industry that this rule is going to have a real negative effect on a market that’s in the early stages of a very fragile recovery.”
Congress also has yet to act to reauthorize the federal flood insurance program. The program is necessary in many coastal and flood-prone areas near lakes and rivers because there is no viable private insurance option, Kremydas said.
“Last year, it lapsed twice and it held up almost 4,000 transactions in South Carolina,” Kremydas said. “It created a huge mess.”
Some old friends of our family are moving to South Carolina soon. My wife is close to the mom, whom we saw a couple of days back. She wanted to know how the CA real estate market was, as they used to rent two streets away from us; I said pretty much as bad as ever — stubbornly high prices leading to a near complete inability of qualified and interested buyers and prospective sellers to make a deal.
Then she told me about housing in SC where they are moving (don’t know which town); anyway, she said it would be a lot cheaper to make the monthly on a mortgage than a comparable rental. I told her this could be a sign prices have bottomed out to the point where buying is a better choice than renting, provided they are financially positioned to make mortgage payments, even in the event of job loss.
If home prices where they are moving are in the $140K neighborhood, then I stand by my advice. After having rented in an area where the same quality of housing would have cost them over $500K back when they lived here (pre-2007), $140K for a house looks a lot like a steal. If it is cheaper to own on a monthly basis than to rent, there is a good chance the financially prudent decision will turn out to be the one common sense would dictate.
Thank you. They probably need 4 brs given their family size, but from the looks of those beautiful homes with nice large yards, which would easily list for north of $500K if they were situated in North San Diego County, I am pretty confident they will do OK.
I should add their plan to move in with my wife’s friend’s parents for three months to save up for a down payment. It will be a great move for their family, as dad has remained steadily employed with the same company right through the Lost Decade, but recently has been constantly on the road. With their new SC situation, he will see more of the family.
Some housing market stories do have happy endings!
Earlier this week, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke hinted at the possibility of more government stimulus money if the fledgling recovery falters.
But Graham says that is a bad idea.
“Bringing back the government punch bowl” – as the government did last year, when it offered incentives to first-time home buyers – artificially inflates sales and drags out the pain, he said. “Let it do what it’s going to do. If it needs to fall, let it fall.”
Bernanke’s hyperinflationary money printing is leading us straight into a dollar collapse. That, combined with an endemic rule-bending, profiteering mentality that has taken root in the US, from Trump wannebes who signed liar loans to a Federal Reserve and Treasury that promote moral hazard and underwrite fraudulent and criminal behavior on Wall Street, is leading this country to economic disaster.
Argentina’s currency collapse in 2002 offers a terrifying glimpse of what lies ahead for America. “Finding ways around the rules is a national pastime,” said Sylvina Walger, a sociologist. “There is no structure in Argentine society to make people resist temptation.”
No problem, happy they ran it. I have to tell you, my brothers wife is a real-a-tor and we never ever discuss real estate at any family gatherings any more. I am convinced they go through brain washing seminars like the folks at Amway.
Several years ago she said to me that the RE market was turning around because of the new incentives and in the long run RE was still the best investment.
I said to her, Katherine if I were in your shoes I’d learn a whole lot about foreclosures and how to sell them because the only thing that is turning is the huge volume of foreclosures that are heading our way.
She did tell me a year ago, that I may have been right. Wow, “may have been”.
Poor thing will never get it, as we say in the South…Bless her heart!
It is different in Charleston, they will sell them all.
Ritzy condo complex coming to downtown
postandcourier.com July 16, 2011
Few sectors of today’s real estate market have been hit harder than condominiums, but the developers of Charleston’s Concord Park site think there is unmet demand for high-end condos in the heart of the city, and they are pressing ahead with plans to build them.
“It will be One Vendue Range, on steroids,” said Wally Seinsheimer Jr., a partner in the Concord Park project and developer a decade ago of the One Vendue Range condos along the city’s Waterfront Park.
The hotel and condominium building planned at the corner of Calhoun and Concord streets would comprise a high-quality hotel with 70 rooms, 49 condominium units, a restaurant, a spa and shops.
As with One Vendue Range, the plan at Concord Park is to build 49 pricey condos — expected to sell for just under $800 a square foot — on property near the water, adjacent to a city park.
The main difference is that the condos at Concord Park would share a building with a 70-room hotel, restaurant, spa and other businesses.
That means someone living in one of the condos could pay for housekeeping, order room service, or have someone collect their dry cleaning. That’s the “on steroids” part.
“We really believe that the market is there,” said Seinsheimer, of Johns Island-based Dolphin Architects & Builders. He said the hotel is expected to be of four-star quality.
The courtyard-style, six-story building that will house the hotel, condos and businesses at Calhoun and Concord streets is moving through the city’s architectural design process, and would be the second building constructed on the Concord Park property.
The 10-acre site is bounded by Calhoun, Concord, Laurens and Washington streets, and is also known as the location of the former Ansonborough Homes low-income housing project, which was flood-damaged in 1989’s Hurricane Hugo, then demolished in 1992 because of pollution discovered in the soil.
The city sought to redevelop the site and in 2007 agreed to sell 3.5 acres of the property to East West Cumberland Park Associates, Seinsheimer’s group, for $16 million.
look at a sat map….seems like they still use the rail lines that goes the length of the property on Washington st and cross Laurens…. freight train along side a luxury high rise…. i remember Calhoun used to flood a lot too and they are only a block from the water…
I am eating my hat now. Two ladies outside my local (Phoenix) library today registered me to vote. They were obvious Obama supporters. But I reluctantly registered. At least I chose the Libertarian Party. They asked me if I will sign a pledge of support for my favorite Pres, Obama. I kindly said no. I will vote again for Ron Paul in 2012. I will again write him in for Pres if the Repukeniks again run a steamroller over Ron Paul like they did in 2008.
By Jerry Daniel Reed
Posted July 16, 2011 at 12:01 a.m.
A McMurry University political science professor contends Republicans in Congress will find themselves under increasing pressure to avoid a debt default that could occur if the government doesn’t raise the nation’s public debt limit.
Paul Fabrizio, a vice president of academic affairs and professor of political science at McMurry, said President Barack Obama would come out on top in case of a default Aug. 2.
“It’s hard to see how the Republicans are going to win this event,” Fabrizio said.
Obama’s several advantages include the president’s bully pulpit, history, the expectations of government check recipients, and pressure from business groups that financed congressional campaigns but who dread the economic fallout from a default, Fabrizio said.
The president has the upper hand in being able to talk directly to the American people whenever he chooses, as he demonstrated Friday with a televised news conference, Fabrizio said. He is positioning himself to receive credit for averting a default or deflect blame onto Congress if a default occurs, Fabrizio said.
“If they don’t have a deal (by Aug. 2), some checks might not be delivered, and blame for that is going to fall on the GOP,” he said.
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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-16 16:06:08
“Apparently they lack the grey matter to think this one through. I look forward to watching them eat crow”.
WOW! Really? So just who has this “gray matter” that you think “they” the enemy don’t? Surely someone you voted for.
The morons will always “out-vote” the educated. They are just better organized in that they all can more easily agree on something (easily brainwashed en-masse). Just as they will out-breed, out-consume, out-eat, out-defecate, etc. We are all somewhat doomed…
Yea, but what I love about the morons or (TB’s) True Buffoons as I like to call them. Is that they really think they are sticking it to the evil rich folk. Sticking it to the man as it were, all the while they are being humped damn near to death by their own ignorance.
They get less and less as the vote for more and more, but being true buffoons they just can not figure it out. Keep voting the way you do America, it’s been really working well!
Most on the right believe in trickle down economics, thus they believe that they will become richer by doing away with ss and medicare (which they use) and by cutting taxes for the rich, cutting regulation on the banking sector and allowing outsourcing, or they care not about financial matters and vote to do away with abortion and force religion on the masses.
The dems vote to stick it to the rich only to find that their candidate is also a puppet of the elite. In this sense they are like republicans who vote on doing away with abortion only to find that their candidate does nothing on the issue to preserve it as a vote getter for the next election.
Bill, better check your party status before the election….
When living in California in the 1990’s, I had a co-worker registered to vote as a Libertarian at a Repubturd table with two old ladies. Came time to vote he found out he was listed as a Republican–those sweet old ladies had altered his registration app!
I guess they couldn’t stand the thought of competition on election day.
Yeah. I considered that these two will try the same thing. A sign of that will be if I get tons of junk mail from the democrap party. I know I can reregister on line with AZ MVD.
I’m getting deluged with phone calls from various empty suits running in the Republicrat Duopoly’s puppet show. I kind of enjoy telling their campaign volunteers politely but pointedly why I won’t be voting for these jokers.
Whatever. The guys who blew up the Federal Building in OKC were former Army buddies in the same Fort Riley, KS based unit. Does that make the US Army responsible? Hardly.
MIDWAY, Ga. (AP) — Police in Georgia have shut down a lemonade stand run by three girls trying to save up for a trip to a water park, saying they didn’t have a business license or the required permits.
Midway Police Chief Kelly Morningstar says police also didn’t know how the lemonade was made, who made it or what was in it.
The girls had been operating for one day when Morningstar and another officer cruised by.
The girls needed a business license, peddler’s permit and food permit to operate, even on residential property. The permits cost $50 a day or $180 per year.
One girl, 14-year-old Casity Dixon, says the three had to listen to police and shut down.
The girls are now doing chores and yard work to make money.
Let me quess: the girls’ parents are good mindless Republicrat voters who are now “shocked” to see the Nanny State intrude so rudely into their lives, yet who will go on voting their rights and freedoms away with every pull of the lever for an Establishment GOP or DNC candidate.
I’m not sure you really need a business license for that. I’ve heard stories of the cops shutting down lemonade stands, bake sales, etc, and then the parents go to the city and find out you don’t have to have a license for that. Just saying.
“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.” — Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED
A Short History of US Credit Defaults
Mises Daily:July 15, 2011 by John S. Chamberlain
On July 13th, the president of the United States angrily walked out of ongoing negotiations over the raising of the debt ceiling from its legislated maximum of $14.294 trillion dollars. This prompted a new round of speculation over whether the United States might default on its financial obligations. In these circumstances, it is useful to recall the previous instances in which this has occurred and the effects of those defaults. By studying the defaults of the past, we can gain insights into what future defaults might portend.
The Continental Currency Default of 1779
The first default of the United States was on its first issuance of debt: the currency emitted by the Continental Congress of 1775. In June of 1775 the Continental Congress of the United States of America, located in Philadelphia, representing the 13 states of the union, issued bills of credit amounting to 2 million Spanish milled dollars to be paid four years hence in four annual installments. The next month an additional 1 million was issued. A third issue of 3 million followed. The next year they issued an additional 13 million dollars of notes. These were the first of the “Continental dollars,” which were used to fund the war of revolution against Great Britain. The issues continued until an estimated 241 million dollars were outstanding, not including British forgeries.
‘In June of 1775 the Continental Congress of the United States of America, located in Philadelphia, representing the 13 states of the union, issued bills of credit amounting to 2 million Spanish milled dollars to be paid four years hence in four annual installments. The next month an additional 1 million was issued. A third issue of 3 million followed. The next year they issued an additional 13 million dollars of notes. These were the first of the “Continental dollars,” which were used to fund the war of revolution against Great Britain. The issues continued until an estimated 241 million dollars were outstanding, not including British forgeries.’
Capistrano Mobile Terrace Files Chapter 11
Park owners say they cannot afford to make necessary repairs at the mobile-home site near the San Juan Hills Country Club.
The owners of Capistrano Terrace Mobile Home Park are filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the midst of efforts to shutter the park entirely.
“The mobile home park, purchased in 2003, has seen mounting liabilities caused by geological issues, deteriorating infrastructure, lawsuits by tenants over park issues, and failure of insurers to handle resolution of those claims,” said Capistrano Terrace Ltd. spokesman Ray Poulter.
It is not immediately clear how the filing will affect the closure report currently being reviewed by San Juan Capistrano’s Housing Advisory Committee.
“It does affect the implementation of the city ordinance on park closures, but we don’t know yet just how much. We are trying to get some response on that matter,” said Poulter. “The costs and obligations required by the city’s park closure ordinance also contributed to the unfortunate need to file for bankruptcy protection.”
The city’s strict rent control laws have kept the owners from collecting the money they need to make major repairs, Poulter said.
The park pool, for example, has been closed for the past three years due to “geological issues.” The owners say that because of last winter’s heavy rain, they spent more than $150,000 trying to repair electrical and plumbing malfunctions, as well as to clean up mud and debris.
The mobile homes are considered to be some of the most affordable places to live in San Juan, where the average home sales for about $2 million.
Poulter said the Capistrano Terrace Mobile Home Park was built as a temporary travel-trailer park in the 1950s. It was never intended to be a full-time mobile-home park, he said, but over the years, it has become just that.
Additionally, residents were recently awarded a court victory in a recent failure-to-maintain lawsuit. The residents are vehemently opposed to the park’s closure.
What wrong with keeping a trailer park next to $2 million dollar homes…..They were there first. Don’t they have a right to live where they want?
Evicting them because they can only afford a trailer is not cool…
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-17 07:37:14
I don’t think he was saying there’s something wrong with it…just that due to location there’s probably something else that could be done with the land that would bring in more money than lot rent.
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-17 10:02:46
But Carl…….what about the people? they would have no other cheap place to live anywhere in the area..
Maybe if they paid $50-100K to each trailer owner it would be ok….thats what they do in NYC when you have a rent controlled apartment…
You are guaranteed renewals for as long as you want…and if the landlord wants to break the lease he has to pay you a lot of $$$ to move.
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-17 12:39:07
I realize that there are places on the coast including NYC where they have rent control and they don’t allow land owners to do something different with their land just because they could make more money doing something else. I’m skeptical that’s a good thing in the long run, but hey, if it works for you. You don’t really see that anywhere that I’ve lived.
But still…does it really make sense to do that? In the end what it really does is subsidize the businesses who want cheap labor so that they don’t have to pay enough for people to live locally on their salary or commute in from long distances, plus subsidize retirees and allow them to live in the place they’ve always lived even when they don’t have the income to pull that off at market prices.
I get why we’re sympathetic, but still, those are some significant market distortions…
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-17 16:56:05
Yes…but that was the way the property was sold with rent restrictions….otherwise the price would have been a lot higher and the present owner would not have had the money to buy in the first place.
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-07-17 18:00:39
OK, I guess I wasn’t assuming it was sold with those restrictions already in place. If it was, then I agree. Don’t know whether PB was originally assuming that or not…or just making the observation that there’s probably a better/more profitable use for the land even if restrictions prohibit it.
Speaking of stupid people and their “investments”, have you looked at the properties that We the People are on the hook for since TARP and massive transfer of Wall Street liabilities onto taxpayers?
U.S. looks to airline fees as tax revenue slumps
Airlines are likely to push back, says one analyst
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. proposed Friday that airlines provide more detail on the ancillary fees they collect from passengers for such items as luggage check and in-flight entertainment as part of a broader effort to find new sources of government revenue.
Airlines are expected to push back, according to Michael Miller at the American Aviation Institute, a Washington-based independent think tank for commercial aviation.
“It’s rampant regulation and it is something no other industry has to deal with,” Miller told MarketWatch.
Implementing the new rules could be costly for the industry at a time when it is still struggling for steady profits and would also expose an airline’s pricing strategy to competitors.
But tax revenue to support air traffic control operations, safety inspections and to build new runways has been declining for years as domestic ticket prices declined and airlines reduced their fuel consumption.
At the same time, revenue from ancillary services such as baggage check and food were up sharply. Airlines broke out those services from their base fares starting in 2007 so only customers who use them have to pay for them, helping to keep ticket prices low.
Last year airlines raked in $5.7 billion from baggage and cancellation fees alone, up from $1.38 billion in 2007.
By identifying more closely the amounts airlines collect for such services, it could help give the government a clearer picture of what could be taxed to replenish the Airport and Airways Trust Fund, which supports the U.S. aviation system through the Federal Aviation Administration.
Yea but what about the governments fair share? That would go down also, which would mean what airlines were left would have to double up and then air fares would go up. Perhaps flying would revert back to the way it once was… For the well to do only.
Hey, I’m not well to do by any stretch of the imagination and that sounds just great to me.
Oh wait, didn’t Southwest Airlines just expand again? Don’t they have the best safety record and highest consumer satisfaction rating and most often cheapest fares?
I stand by what I said. Many of them need to STAY out of business.
High-tech job openings decline for third straight month in NC
By WRAL Tech Wire
Raleigh, N.C. — High-tech jobs are getting harder to find in North Carolina with the number of advertised openings falling back to December 2010 levels.
“The back and forth in demand over the last year indicates that there is no optimism, neither with employers nor consumers,” say the authors of the latest North Carolina IT Job Trends report from the North Carolina Technology Association, TEK Systems and SkillPROOF.
In June, the average daily openings declined to 4,090 – a 7 percent drop from May. Job opportunities have fallen for three consecutive months.
“The job market in North Carolina continues to erode after a good start earlier this year,” NCTA said. But after the recent declines, the report notes: “Looking back over the last 12 months it appears the IT job market in the state is stagnant.”
North Carolina’s overall jobless rate in May was 9.7 percent; the national unemployment rate in June was 9.2 percent. NC figures for June will be announced July 22.
Saudi Arabia Beheads Man for Attack on Woman
July 16, 2011 | Associated Press
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – Saudi authorities have beheaded a man convicted of attacking a woman and snapping nude photos of her in order to blackmail her for sex.
A Saudi Interior Ministry statement carried in national papers Saturday says the man broke into the woman’s apartment and attacked her husband before turning on the woman. It was not clear when the attack took place.
The statement says the assailant, who was not identified, was beheaded with a single sword stroke Friday.
Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam under which people convicted of murder, drug trafficking, rape and armed robbery can be executed — usually with a sword.
According to an Associated Press count, Saudi Arabia has executed 31 people so far this year. The kingdom executed 27 people last year.
Wow good thing for her that she was married and her husband was home, otherwise she not the perp would have been buried up to her head and stoned or in Pakistan stripped naked and paraded around the town.
Michael Snyder, The Economic Collapse | Jul. 14, 2011, 10:30 AM
the fact that we are facing rampant unemployment that never seems to go away should not be a surprise to anyone. Today, the “official” unemployment rate went up to 9.2 percent even though a whopping 272,000 Americans “dropped out of the labor force” in June. The government unemployment figure that includes “discouraged workers” went up from 15.8% to 16.2%. The mainstream media is proclaiming that this was “a horrific report” because most economists were expecting much better news.
Well, guess what?
Things are going to get a whole lot worse.
More job cuts are coming. One recently released report found that the number of job cuts being planned by U.S. employers increased by 11.6% in June.
It is also being projected that state and local governments across the U.S. will slash nearly half a million more jobs by the end of next year.
My local movie rental shop just declared that they are going out of business. At their peak they employed 20 people. They have been replaced with Netfix downloading and Redbox which employ 0.1 person to supply the same # of movies. The solution to technology and outsourcing killing jobs
1. VAT and trade policy
2. Make employing people cheaper - Mankiw recs raising fuel taxes and cutting payroll. I’d also cut taxes on the middle class and increase them on the rich.
3. Improve infrastructure and energy efficiency of the country w gov incentives and jobs.
4. Single payer health care coverage, ie business won’t have to pay for health care and healthcare can be made much cheaper.
The alternative is massive unemployment poverty crime and social instability. Looking around the globe I’m sure we will choose the later. The elite are not history buffs.
Deflation would also help, in principle. It worked wonders to keep the Japanese household economy reasonably comfortable during two straight “lost decades.”
Of course, if you have spent away all your savings and put your households into hock, as America has under two decades of Greenspent’s leadership at the Fed, deflation is devastating.
LOL! Love the final paragraph, sounds like the D.C. teachers union has a stone cold genius in command!
ITEM: DC School District Fires More than 400 Employees
(WASHINGTON,D.C.)News Wire
The final bell rang for 413 D.C. public school employees Friday, after officials announced they were being laid off for poor performance and failure to meet licensing requirements.
Of the terminated staff, 206 are teachers- which adds up to 5 percent of all the public school teachers in the entire District of Columbia.
The biggest chunk of workers let go- 288 of them- were rated subpar by the city school district’s evaluation system, called “IMPACT.”
The program is Michelle Rhee’s brainchild from her days as chancellor of the D.C. public school system, and it uses five 30-minute classroom visits to determine who the good teachers are, and who the bad teachers are. Educators are measured by how high their students score on assessment tests and how well lessons are laid out.
“‘IMPACT’ is allowing us to do exactly what we set out to do, which is recognize and reward our highest performers, which is to support and develop our people who are struggling, and to move out our lowest performers,” DC Public Schools Chancellor Kaya Henderson told Fox News affiliate WTTG.
Rewards for the “highly effective,” can potentially- and literally- pay off big time. The same set of reviews that terminated 206 teachers identified 663 top performers, all of whom are now eligible for up to $25,000 in bonuses.
Still, the Washington Teachers Union has issues with “IMPACT”, and they don’t think this particular evaluation system gives their members a fair shake.
“‘IMPACT’ as an evaluation system is biased,” contends Washington Teachers’ Union President Nathan A. Saunders. “And most, if not all, evaluation systems run by other human beings have been proven to be biased.”
As a fan of post-Apocalyptic movies and novels, this upcoming flick looks promising.
I confidently predict the first TV ad of any post-Apocalyptic era will be from the NAR who, like cockroaches, will manage to survive and tell us “There’s never been a better time to buy!”
I bought Mrs. RAL a new set of 36D’s and now she has a herd new and worn once VS super bras. They’re going to ebay unless any of you sisters are interested…. realtors_are_liars@live.com
You bought those puppy’s for Mrs. RAL, huh? How kind of you.
Mama’s got a squeezebox she wears on her chest
When Daddy comes home he never gets no rest
Cause they’re playing all night
And the music’s all right
Mama’s got a squeezebox; Daddy never sleeps at all!
700 Bofa auctions scheduled to be repo-ed and added to the central OR inventory this fall? About 200 homes are sold per month in the same area lately. I wonder if the market can handle that, or if Bofa will resume massively rescheduling the auctions like before? It’s a given that our dire local unemployment rate of 15% does not help.
Will Bofa postpone some of these as they did before; knowing that robo-signing is behind them (hopefully), and there is a crop of homes waiting to make the list anew, as they have not had a trustee sale in a year.
RE Robosigning resolution: BofA did change servicers on my wife last month; BAC to Bank of America, N.A. Then they sent another letter stating(in the fine print) that if my wife did not dispute her debt then it would be assumed to be good debt.
She has already asked for the original note; it is on the way from the bank; and she will be disputing the debt from the “new” servicer(i.e. in name only apparently to clarify who owes them money legitimately). This is an attempt on her part to get more time in our free-for-now home. And to try to take the bank to task regarding following proper procedure. 8.5 billion settlement from Bofa to Countrywide investors must be admitting that many of these crap loans were suspect in quality; I assume for many reasons.
After all it was originated it was re-sold several times without proper procedures being followed, ripping off the state by ignoring laws regarding recording of new mortgage arrangements. And it was shoddily originated; with no income info required, it sure seemed to be dodgy; then that company was sold to Countrywide and that was then sold to BofA. Given BofA’s 8.5 billion dollar settlement with investors regarding crappily made mortgages maybe there is something wrong with wife’s mortgage and its subsequent allonges-reassignments that at the least circumvented state law.
After all; why else should they change the servicer from BAC to Bank of America, N.A.; then say that bit about not disputing the debt makes it a valid debt? Must mean that they fear those disputing it may point to some INvalidities? I mean, changing servicers from BAC to Bank of America, N.A. must have cost something so why did they do it?
Why not dispute it? If it was recorded incorrectly in any of its designations, some judges take issue with that. Maybe it just buys her some more time in the home?
Oh yeah, lots of homes in our hood are either being sold short or foreclosing as values have halved from 400k to 200K(or 150!). They are largely for sale; vacant. A few are being enjoyed by their owners as we are on a golf resort. New owners next door just bought theirs for 200k and are loving life thus far. Too bad wife paid double. Not something a few more shifts at the grocery store will solve; or even a raise at her lunch lady job!
“I wonder if the market can handle that, or if Bofa will resume massively rescheduling the auctions like before?”
What does ‘market can handle that’ even mean when there is a Wall Street Megabank monopolist on one side of it? If these trusts were busted up into regional lending organizations, with local presence, expertise, and a sense of community stewardship, NONE of the problems with a lack of flow in local real estate markets would persist — NONE! The bankrupt Megabanks should be returned to the American people, and not be allowed to remain within Wall Street’s domain.
When Henry Louis (Skip) Gates Jr. left Duke University for Harvard University’s African-American-studies department in 1991, it was his fourth work address in seven years. I remember a waggish response at the time featured a Top 10 list of reasons for his departure. One: “Why do you think they call him Skip?”
Gates’s peregrinations were more frequent than we usually saw (even for him: He’s stayed at Harvard for 20 years since), but they were broadly typical. Publication historically stamped the passports enabling faculty movement. Departments that sought to “improve” did so by hiring high-profile researchers. Notice that I’m using the past tense here. The academic “star system,” as it’s been named, is confronting economic weakness in one of its foundation pillars: The recession is now keeping many ambitious senior faculty members—especially those in the hard-hit humanities—in place.
That’s because senior-faculty movement has dropped along with every other figure in today’s employment market. The American Historical Association, for example, reports a decline of more than 40 percent in tenured openings (including endowed chairs) during the past two years; last fall there were just 52 openings altogether (though not including senior searches aimed at specific celebrity prey that are sometimes not advertised). The situation in English, another discipline that collects and breaks down its employment figures, is the same. Data from the Modern Language Association show an almost-40-percent drop in positions in English advertised at the rank of associate professor or above in the last two years, and only 61 positions at those ranks in 2009-10.
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Some reporters sure are clueless about the seasonality concept; year-on-year is a much better indicator of trend than month-on-month, especially when entering the red-hot summer sales season!
June housing numbers are in for San Diego
By Lily Leung, Reporter - Real estate
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 9:26 a.m.
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SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: More than 20,532 home were sold in San Diego, Los Angeles, Riverside, Ventura, San Bernardino and Orange counties in June, up 11.6 percent from May but down 14 percent June 2010. The month-over-month increase is more than usual for May-to-June. DataQuick officials said on average, sales between those months is have gone up 6.2 percent since 1988, when the company began to track housing data.
June’s median price for all six counties was $285,000, up 1.8 percent from May but down 5 percent from one year ago. “Today’s median is also suppressed somewhat by abnormally low sales of newly built homes, which typically sell for more than resale homes,” this month’s DataQuick report said.
Banks gearing up to fill looming gap in jumbo loans Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the FHA are facing an upcoming cutback in mortgage limits, but banks say they’re planning to expand their jumbo loan business in high-cost housing markets.
July 10, 2011|By Kenneth R. Harney
How big a deal is the upcoming cutback in mortgage limits for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration? Will buyers and sellers who depend on jumbo-sized loans find themselves in a financing squeeze after Oct. 1, when the limits plunge in key markets around the country?
Housing and realty lobbies are pushing hard on Capitol Hill for a continuation of the $729,750 high-cost area maximum, but one industry is delighted by the prospect and is gearing up to fill the gap.
From small community banks to megabanks, the message is the same: Bring on the switch to lower limits. We plan to expand our jumbo loan business wherever market demand requires. There will be no financing squeeze for anyone who needs a mortgage too big for Fannie, Freddie or the FHA, provided the applicant is creditworthy and has enough of a down payment.
Congress raised the conventional and FHA limits during the economic crisis to ensure access to capital for buyers and refinancers. Those limits are scheduled to adjust downward Oct. 1, unless lawmakers agree to an extension — a move that would run counter to calls from Republicans and the Obama administration to reduce the federal footprint in the mortgage arena.
Federal guarantees support loans purchased, securitized or insured by Fannie, Freddie and the FHA, putting taxpayers’ dollars at risk in the event of foreclosures. Fannie and Freddie together have sopped up more than $150 billion in direct taxpayer assistance since being placed in federal conservatorship three years ago because of mounting losses from loan defaults.
On Oct. 1, the maximum loan at each of the three federal mortgage giants will fall to $625,500. Though the upper-limit decline is only $104,250 below where it is today, some realty and business analysts worry that buyers who need big mortgages — especially in California, New York, New England, Florida and Washington, D.C. — will be forced to make much heftier down payments, pay higher interest rates or be prevented from purchasing the house they want.
Bankers say those worries are way overblown. Cam Fine, president and chief executive of the Independent Community Bankers Assn., says his 5,000-plus members plan to take up the slack in the jumbo arena and have the financial capacity to do so. Community banks, which generally range in size up to $20 billion in assets, “are very adept at creating products that fit the needs of customers,” Fine said.
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Awesome: Another class action against Megabank, Inc. Keep ‘em coming, Americans!!! If we all work hard enough at this, we can get these greed pigs to give something back to our Nation’s people.
Picture this nightmare financial scenario: You’ve taken out a $150,000 home-equity credit line to remodel your house. You’ve already pulled out thousands to pay contractors and owe thousands more, when suddenly you get a curt letter from the bank.
“Effective yesterday,” it says, “we’ve shut down access to your credit line. Although we haven’t physically appraised your property, an automated valuation indicates that it is now worth significantly less than it was when we approved your application. If you wish to hire an appraiser, chosen by us but at your own expense, you can appeal our decision.”
You’re in shock. You can’t pay bills for work you’ve contracted, and you can’t touch the money you confidently thought you had. Plus, you know that housing prices in your area have been relatively stable since you took out the credit line. How could a bank effectively devalue your real estate using nothing more than a computer program?
Welcome to the world of what class-action lawyers estimate to be massive numbers of homeowners — 1 million customers at one national bank alone — who had their credit lines reduced, frozen or canceled without appraisals during 2009 in the tense months following the near-collapse of the capital marketplace.
Now a federal district court in Chicago has given the green light to clients of JPMorgan Chase to proceed with a consolidated lawsuit alleging that their equity lines were yanked or reduced illegally, costing them billions of dollars in lost borrowing power. Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer rejected the bank’s motion to dismiss the case, clearing the way for a possible giant class action.
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Short sale fraud plagues the housing market
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Just as the housing market began to collapse near the end of 2007, a real estate agent in Bridgeport, Conn. asked Regions Bank if it would accept a $102,375 bid on a home that was underwater on its mortgage. Under the impression that this was the best offer on the home, Regions agreed to the short sale and released the mortgage it owned on the home.
Later that same day, the new owner — an investment group owned by another real estate agent — resold the home to a buyer who had been lined up before the short sale transaction went through. The final sale price: $132,500, netting the seller a cool $30,000 — a profit that should have gone to Regions.
In this latest twist on short sale fraud, scammers have found a way to rip off mortgage lenders by tens of thousands of dollars — sometimes in a matter of hours.
The scam artists, usually real estate agents, will secure a legitimate bid on a home, one where the borrower owes far more on the mortgage than the home is worth. Then they arrange for an accomplice investor to make a lower offer on the home.
Foreclosures for sale: Big supply, low prices
The agent then presents the lower bid to the lender and asks them to forgive any remaining balance owed — without disclosing that there was a higher bid made on the home. Once the short sale is approved, the scammer then sells the home to the higher bidder, often on the same day.
“These same-day resales are on average nearly $50,000 greater than the lender agreed upon short-sale price,” said Tim Grace, senior vice president of product management and analytics at CoreLogic (CLGX), a financial analytics company based in Santa Ana, Calif.
Such transactions are expected to cost lenders more than $375 million this year, up more than 20% from last year, according to CoreLogic
The anatomy of a scam
Most of the time, pulling off one of these scams involves a real estate agent and an investor acting as a “straw buyer.” Sometimes, the owner of the home is involved as well, but not often, said Robert Hagberg, an investigator for the mortgage giant Freddie Mac (FMCC, Fortune 500).
“In most instances, the sellers are apathetic; they’ve, basically, already lost their homes,” he said. With nothing to gain or lose, they allow agents to handle the entire deal.
To get the banks to approve low bids, appraisals or broker price opinions are manipulated. Home prices have plummeted in many housing markets and the house may be worth far less than what the seller paid.
Sometimes, said Hagberg, fraudsters bribe appraisers or brokers to get the prices they want but they can employ sneakier methods as well. One method: Misstating the home’s location so it’s compared with much cheaper places.
One case in California last year involved an expensive Malibu property that the agent said was in Riverside, Calif.
“It didn’t cause any alarm bells to go off at the bank,” said Grace. “The short sale went through at $200,000, which was a fifth of its value. It was turned around for $1 million.”
Sometimes an agent will point out every defect in the home to get appraisers to reduce their values, according to Hagberg. In Wisconsin, an agent left the windows open during spring rains and flooded the basement. He told the appraiser the plumbing burst and would need expensive repairs. All it really needed was a pump.
“When the flippers say there’s something wrong with the electricity, the plumbing or the roof, the appraiser can’t tell whether they’re being deceived or not,” said Hagberg.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/28/real_estate/short_sale_fraud_rising/index.htm?iid=HP_LN
Bankers, realtors, appraisers, investors: a real clusterfark of fraud. Gotta love it. Wash, rinse, repeat. Things haven’t changed. The example is set from the top, where the real fraudsters are: Washington and Wall Street. And until all that’s cleaned up, this will continue.
Corruption: It’s how we win!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuBstLZINco
They really believe this, too.
Yup. It’s not a free market it’s a rigged market. And it’s not only housing. Look at any industry everything is rigged against us.
The example is set from the top, where the real fraudsters are: Washington and Wall Street.
+1. When fraud and criminality are rewarded as policy (i.e. TARP) they tend to proliferate through society.
The fish rots from the head.
“The scam artists, usually real estate agents, will secure a legitimate bid on a home, one where the borrower owes far more on the mortgage than the home is worth. Then they arrange for an accomplice investor to make a lower offer on the home.”
Don’t those fools know that front running is only legal for large Wall Street firms and their super-computers?
+1 for the alpha, that’s EXACTLY right.
How is this a scam? I get something for free on CL and turn around and sell it on ebay….
Its just capitalism, the banks don’t have a clue….now if a bank employee was getting a piece of the action…well yes is a scam and criminal…
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The anatomy of a scam
It’s a scam because real-estate agents are obligated by law to present all offers. If they know the bank will take less and profit from the spread, they are breaking the law.
Then why did a bank agree on it? The banks knowingly lent money to people who couldn’t pay it back, just to collect their commission and fees….
Seems like even-steven fair is fair!
Fair and legal are not the same.
The bank agreed to it because they didn’t know their agent was witholding information from them.
Its a scam because the “bank” is really Fannie/Freddie. Get it now??? We pay for the $hit.
“We” voted for the TBTF banks’ pet Republicrat accomplices like Obama and McCain. Meaning “we” have no right to squeal while getting bent over, since this is, after all, what “we” voted for. Except for those of us who DIDN’T vote for the status quo but are still getting bent over because of the stupidity of the mindless majority.
I believe it is important to differentiate between cases involving fraud (e.g. lying about the characteristics or location of a property in order to deceive a lender about the true value of a property) and others involving an investor doing some homework to pick up a property on the cheap from a lender which is too busy with a glut of REO to do much homework on current market conditions.
So far as I am aware, there is no law that says an investor cannot pick up properties with lowball offers from a lender, then reap the rewards of more effectively marketing the properties in order to obtain a better offer. The investor in this case is providing the lender with a service, by reducing its REO glut. Shouldn’t the investor get paid?
Of course, if the investing scheme involves misrepresenting the features of the property, the perpetrator should go to prison for fraud.
Isn’t the issue here that the realtor has a better offer already but does not present it - instead they present the lower offer as the only offer and then complete the two sales virtually on the same day? No extra “marketing” involved.
You need to examine the law of agency.
Did the realtor have an agency agreement to represent a particular party’s interest?
Stories like this help explain why many short sales take a long time to complete.
The bank should put a clause into every short sale saying it can’t be resold for at least a certain period of time. That’s what Fannie Mae does.
I guess you are a heck of a lot smarter then the bank President…. Big V.
What. A. Surprise.
Good find wmbz.
Hi. Quick ? for Polly or other legal gurus. New landlord bought the building. They wanted to amend the lease for increase in rent. I waited the few months until my year long lease end. But the lady in the office did not change the date on the amendment form. So it states new rent shall be $X starting in May. But I signed the amended (yes I should have notice the date error.) the end of May and started the paying new rate for June. But got letter from LL saying I own extra rent for May. The amout is not much. But so far they have not been good LL. Can the amendment be valid since I signed it after the date in which the rent increase was to start?
Your prior lease was effective to what date?
31 May
I would argue there was clearly a misunderstanding as why would you sign a new lease with a higher payment for May if you were already under contract for a lower price for May. If they cant show they offered you a lower blended rate because of covering May I would definitely put up a fuss. I would have to see the amendment to draw a final conclusion. Just because it is dated the 1st doesnt mean it is effective on the 1st. Read the text and see if it cleary says the rental period “effective” date, if it does not, standard would be that it apply to the new period only regardless of the dated date.
The old lease goes until it’s up. Tell your new LL that you won’t be paying extra money on your old lease. There’s nothing they can do about it.
That’s your answer the amended lease is the valid one, so you owe…
(yes I should have notice the date error
The laws vary from state to state. You need to specifically research for your state.
You should be able to find a renters rights group, on-line for your area.
Contact your county landlord/tenant board to see if you have a chance. But I will tell you that back-dated contracts can be valid and if you signed the thing you might be on the hook.
I suggest consulting Craig’s List for free/low cost moving boxes. The only way to “vote” on a bad landlord it to move. I did it with my last landlord. Cost me a pretty penny too, but very satisfying.
The housing slump is far worse than you think
Key housing market statistics point to years of stagnation
By Roben Farzad
Business Week
updated 7/14/2011
8:02:50 AM ET
Ramsey says every housing statistic he tracks, including new and existing home prices and the performance of homebuilding stocks, has so far matched the pattern of prices after the bursting of other bubbles, including the Dow Jones industrial average following the crash of 1929 and Japan’s Nikkei after its 1989 peak. It starts with a steep decline lasting three or four years, followed by a brief rally that ends in years of stagnation. The Dow took 35 years to return to pre-crash levels. The Nikkei trades at less than a third of where it peaked 22 years ago. “The housing decline,” he says, “will be a long, multiyear process, and the multiplier effect across the economy will be enormous.”
Others are equally gloomy. “It’s still a vicious cycle of foreclosures, prices falling and buyers remaining on the sidelines,” says Jonathan Smoke, head of research for Hanley Wood, a housing data company. With the homeownership rate possibly headed to its pre-bubble level of 64 percent from 69 percent at the peak, Smoke calculates that the nation needs 1.6 million fewer homes that it now has. “We’ve gone through a period when we should have been tearing down houses,” he says. “The supply of total housing stock is beyond what is necessary.”
Big ripple effect
If these predictions are right, the economy will be missing a key driving force for years — and the nation will keep paying the price for what Ramsey calls the “illusory prosperity” of the housing boom. “Think about local tax revenues — what the housing bubble contributed to coffers across the country,” he says. “The ripple effect for the economy was enormous: washers, dryers, carpeting, construction jobs.” The housing wealth that has now evaporated gave Americans false expectations about economic growth and rising standards of living. Asks Ramsey: “What was real and what was never meant to be?”
The bottom line: Despite intermittent signs of recovery, the housing market may be in the midst of a slump that could last a generation.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43687588/ns/business-us_business/t/housing-slump-far-worse-you-think/ - 81k -
Deflation, deflation, deflation. There it is for anyone who cares to take a peek.
Except when you’re buying food and gas.
“Except when you’re buying food and gas”.
Yes, but those two don’t count, just ask D.C. They claim that they are a variable so no need to put them in the “basket”.
Solution for J6P don’t eat and walk.
Joe 6 Pack is going to meet the 3rd World’s good friends: beans and rice. And I’m not talking about burritos at Chpotle or QDoba.
Fortunately I like beans and rice. I had a 50 cent can for lunch yesterday. I guess the big benefit is that people at work will stop giving me a hard time for eating plain food as they will have the same thing on their plate.
Brother, can you spare some beans?
As do I. Stir-fry veggies, rice, and little meat for flavoring is plenty for me. My 23 year old son lives off ramen with a little chicken, fresh fruit with an occasional chick fila meal when he has an unusually long day on campus. I havae ,managed t expand his cooing some this summer. He finally learned how not to burn rice. Fortunately he does not care much for junk food or fast food.
You can do even better than 50 cents. Make your own beans. Put in a sealed container in a cooler and bring them to work along with your pre-cooked rice. The bonus is you control the sodium level. I’m supposed to be on a low sodium diet so I go to restaurants only on occasions and prepare my own food.
A former Lebanese neighbor taught me how to make a great lentil stew that I serve over rice. Cheap healthy eats with no Monsanto Frankenfoods or preservatives.
Take note that General Mills is raising the price of its products because they expect a decline in sales volume.
Price your product at whatever price you want but if people do not have the money to buy then they won’t.
People who have the cash get to buy what they want and what they need.
People without the cash get to watch.
People who don’t have the cash for GM can just buy the basics fk GM. People can grow their own food if they have a bit of land and lower their food bill as well. We have a 4×8ft plot and haven’t had to buy lettuce or beans for 4 weeks now. Tomato pots will supply tomatoes for the summer and beyond.
“Take note that General Mills is raising the price of its products because they expect a decline in sales volume. “
What have I been saying about voodoo, er, “supply side” economics?
Supply and demand? Tell that fairy tale to the children.
Combo says, “Price your product at whatever price you want but if people do not have the money to buy then they won’t. ”
And if the producer lowers the price they go out of business creating a scarcity which increases the price of the remaining goods.
You’re ignoring the population of the rest of the world who will bid up prices.
Your focus is too narrow.
Or a used car. Even other used goods. Being in the “stuff” biz, it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it. Even new goods, I’ve seen some major price hikes in the big box stores recently. LMAO! It’s the death spiral, actually. Companies start getting frantic and raise their prices under the guise of “savings”, perception is reality and all that. People buy less, prices go up to compensate. Wash, rinse, repeat.
At least that’s what I’m seeing anecdotally. Even ebay, that bastion of “bargains”, just recently upped their rates by instituting “commissions” on shipping costs. Cute little maneuver, they reduced the overall commission rate, but included shipping in the overall cost of the item they’re charging commission on and presented it as a “savings” to their customers (sellers who use the service). You know they ran the numbers on this before they did it.
So I wish I could agree with you, combo, but I’m not seeing it. I love bacon, but I’m just not going to pay for it, it’s not like I HAVE to eat it.
“… it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it.”
Which is my point.
“… it’s outrageous what people are asking for things like used furniture, household goods, etc. Of course, I don’t think they’re getting it.”
I saw this first hand in Mexico during the inflation years. Used goods actually appreciated in value (in nominal pesos). Of course new goods prices skyrocketed even more.
I know the econ textbooks say that were suppose to get deflation, but as long as our currency continues to be debased via serial QEs and we are dependent on imports for our basic needs, inflation will rule the day.
In Mexico inflation didn’t stop until they did one thing: turn off the printing press. It worked, but the process was unbelievably painful and it took YEARS until they came out of the tunnel. And by painful I mean that Mexican society almost completely unravelled, and that was before the rise of narcoviolence.
Now imagine soft Americans being subject to that kind of hardship. And unlike Mexico we don’t have the luxury of exporting our surplus population.
Speaking about used cars, the available inventory has fallen off a cliff. The volume of used cars offered for sale at cars dot com has shrunk by half in my neck of the woods and asking prices are as high as ever.
3 years ago you could buy a decent, low mileage American car for about 10 grand. Today 10K buys you a much older,high mileage (close to 100K) car. I’m seeing asking prices on 2 year old cars that approach what those cars cost when new. Of course new car prices are sky high, with even “compact” 4 cylinder cars starting as high as the low 20’s, which is what I paid for my Lacrosse in 2006 (new 6 cylinder Lacrosses are in the low to high 30’s now).
Your used car price information is an example of what I am trying to get across.
People need a car but they do not have the money to buy a new one so they have to settle for a used one. So the competition for used cars rises and drives up the prices. At the same time the volume of new cars drop off.
The prices of new cars are high but the sales volume is dropping. The price of used cars is rising because the sales volume is rising.
One set of cars - the new ones - have a nominal price but doesn’t have the sales. But this nominal price is what goes into the inflation figures.
The other set of cars has an actual price which is also rising and these prices also go into the inflation figures.
So the total inflation figures are pumped up from both sets of car prices - the nominal new cars prices and the actual used car prices.
and how many good running used cars were destroyed on purpose with the cash for clunkers scam?
“At the same time the volume of new cars drop off.”
True, but automakers have changed their gamebook.
The old game plan was: keep sales levels up at any cost. Which meant humongous rebates and discounts which in the end translated into huge losses and bankruptcies
The new playbook is: sales volumes can fall as long as we sell the cars for a profit.
My point is that lack of demand need not result in lower prices as the Econ 101 textbooks insist.
“and how many good running used cars were destroyed on purpose with the cash for clunkers scam?”
690,000 cars were destroyed under the program, and I suspect that a big % of them really were clunkers that were on their way to the junkyard anyway.
It’s worth remembering that only “gas guzzlers” were eligble for the credit. And there was no trade in credit either as the cars had to be scrapped.
“My point is that lack of demand need not result in lower prices as the Econ 101 textbooks insist.”
The true picture of what is happening is found in cash flows, not in prices.
Prices can be listed at any level but the cash has to flow if the prices are to be considered realistic. And if the prices are not realistic then the cash will not flow.
But cash flows are not what is being measured, prices are.
If people do not have the money to pay the prices then the prices will not be paid, the cash will not flow.
The cash that does flow will flow to those items that have lower prices.
It’s not all about price, its all about cash flow.
“If people do not have the money to pay the prices then the prices will not be paid, the cash will not flow.”
And as long as vendors remain profitable at lower sales volumes, prices will not come down.
Other than real estate, have prices come down in Japan during the two lost decades?
Combo,
Me thinks your analysis lacks the appropriate market collusion/corruption element factor.
“As long as vendors remain profitable at lower sales volumes, prices will not come down.”
And when sales volumes drop far enough then the vendor will go out of business and the price may then skyrocket.
It may skyrocket not because the demand has grown but because the supply has dropped. If there is any demand at all and the supply goes to zero then the price can rise to infinity.
How much would you pay for spare parts to fix your car? If you had a choice of vendors then the price would be determined by the lowest priced vendor. If there was one vendor his price would be the one you would have to pay. If there was no vendor then even if you paid an infinite price you would still not get to fix your car.
You can have rising prices in a deflating - or any type of economy - as long as demand exceeds supply.
In a deflating economy demand declines but supply may decline even faster. If that is the case then one should reasonably expect prices to rise.
The rising price of gas and commodities is not because of inflation. It is because of massive speculation by those who think the party is just getting started. It is not. It is shutting down. The age of credit is ending. This is really very simple. The contraction pains can be seen in many corners. You only have to look a little past the price of tortillas. Rig for deflation and keep your powder dry for the minimum pain over the next decade. And get out of debt if you can. Just sayin.
“Soft Americans”
We built this country, dearie. Our first course of action (as you may have noticed) is to kick out the Mexicans. Americans have more know-how than anyone else, as evidenced by the pilgrims and pioneers who made this a place to which Mexicans flock.
The “pilgrims and pioneers” who created this nation’s former greatness were cut out of far different cloth than today’s slothful, indulgent, crassly materialistic and self-absorbed Americans. Most of the Mexicans who “flock” here as you put it are far more commendable human beings from the standpoint of having a much stronger work ethic and superior family values to those of us fortunate enough to have been born citizens. Let’s not demonize a entire category of people for the “crime” of seeking greater opportunity and a better life.
Sorry Sammy, but that’s my cloth your talking about. We are the type who will kick out the Mexicans, just like we kicked out the Indians. The vast majority of US citizens are clamoring to kick them out and oh, look, it’s starting to work. Wages, anyone?
Next up: Offshoring.
Colorado said “Other than real estate, have prices come down in Japan during the two lost decades?”
Nope. Steadily rising over the years - especially food. No question. Clothes were always expensive in Japan compared to US & Europe due to better quality and design. But during the last two decades price of normal everyday clothes has steadily increased. Nowadays one can see Japanese designed clothes being imported from China for some major Japanese brands. Then you have the casual store - Uniqlo - where every article is made in China. The price range for Jeans is 3500Y to 5000Y. Way more expensive than Levis here in the USA, but better styling and make quality than Levis. Almost 90% of all denim for major brands comes from India. So denim quality is roughly the same (incl. blends of polyester with denim for some european brands to make light weight jeans!)
Further, most kids stay with their parents until they get married. In Tokyo, some stay in one bed studio that their parents bought during the bubble era (these are called mansions - meaning studio apartments: eg. 1DK - one bed room + dining kitchen, 2DK …)
Most students with graduate degrees (at least 3 years BA etc.) have reduced prospects to get into the workforce. Their only prospect is to work on quasi minimum salaried positions paying anywhere between 600Y to 1000Y per hour. If the business closes then one has to get a new job. The savings / pension of their parents keep these kids going.
Same story will likely be repeated here in the US. Someone mentioned here that the developed world really does not need to buy much more - all the things they need to live life comfortably, they already own - however, the purchase of junk goods continues. If you look at the markets the real growth will come from pedaling cheap “western” designed goods to third world countries at those prices. The real issue is that the working population turnover is not enough to get the young people into the workforce to support the industries.
For the US, growth can be expected once the boomer generation gets out of the workforce. That decision could be self driven or forced by nature. These will be another tough 2 decades or so.
so we will all be Apple customers? It look like the days are over for having “stuff” everything will be mobile… a couple of laptops hooked to a big screen iphone ipad so you can live in 1/2 the space….and the landlord can make twice as many smaller apartments and make double the money.
Those McMansions sure look good for rooming houses Big 60″ communal tv, wifi, office laser printers in the common areas and furnish rooms so very little stuff will be moved in or out….
“It is because of massive speculation by those who think the party is just getting started. It is not. It is shutting down.”
Exactly. Things are starting to come apart. What’s not getting much MSM publicity is the massive surge in armed robberies, etc. There are uncountable numbers of people, unemployed, who no longer qualify for benefits, and who have no money and no chance to earn it. Let’s call them “takers.” They’re starting to “take” what they need. There is no other way.
“Except when you’re buying food and gas.”
Or college tuition? Not for some.
Average College Costs on the Rise
Jul 01, 2011
But even with room and board, net costs declined at private nonprofit institutions and public 2-year colleges between 2005-06 and 2010-11.
However, it is important to differentiate between published tuition and fees and actual college costs. The College Board points out that about two-thirds of students receive grant aid, and others typically take advantage of federal tax credits and deductions to help defray costs.
Taking this into consideration, net costs have actually declined over the past five years for most groups when you adjust for inflation
This is due partially to an increase in the availability of student aid, particularly Federal Pell Grants and veterans’ benefits. And institutional grant aid helped keep net college costs particularly for low-income students at private nonprofit institutions.
Nevertheless, college remained unaffordable for many American families. The effect of the economic downturn on family finances was significant:
http://education-portal.com/articles/Average_College_Costs_on_the_Rise.html - 36k -
Private colleges are still prohibitively expensive, even with their bogus, partial scholarships.
Our mailbox was stuffed with 20K per year scholarship offers for our daughter from 2nd tier private schools. Problem was that there was still 20K+ left to pay per year.
So she went to the local state U, where tuition keeps going up, but is still far cheaper than the local private schools like the University of Denver or Regis. The state U’s here offer a piddling $2000 scholarship to kids who graduate in the top 5% of their class (Mesa State College in Grand Juntion does offer tuition free deals to those kids).
“This is due partially to an increase in the availability of student aid, particularly Federal Pell Grants and veterans’ benefits”
You have to be a pauper to qualify for a Pell grant. As in your family gets food stamps. Sure there’s a lot of financial aid for middle class students … in the form of loans.
The cost of education…in the US has soared in recent decades while median incomes have stagnated… In the past decade, tuition rates at public universities have risen 5.6% a year above inflation…
“Over the past 60 years,” says Jim O’Neill, head of the Thiel Foundation, “owning a house became part of the American Dream. People were told: ‘buy a house, don’t worry about the price; you’ll earn it all back later.’ Now it’s the same thing with college.”
But given that almost everyone needs food, gas and shelter, higher food and gas prices should be deflationary for shelter prices, especially during an era of high unemployment and stagnant income growth.
If you already bought a house, as about 60% of all Americans have, then falling house prices not only won’t help you, they’ll hurt you as you get shoved down into Davey Jone’s Locker.
They will help the next round of house buyers.
Never been a better time to rent — so long as you stay hedged against Fed-engineered housing price inflation (historical reference: 1975-1979).
Not in my neck of the woods. In my neck of the woods it’s never been a better time to buy a house… with roomates.
And how many NEW city halls police stations office buildings were built with this excess money and how much debt was taken on amazing….gotta have a new $100 mill building we have builders lined up to build 25,000 new homes, think of all the new tax revenues …we’ll pay it off…honest…
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Think about local tax revenues — what the housing bubble contributed to coffers across the country
From the article: Simon also points to the affordability index, which measures the ability of a family with the median national income to buy a median-price home at current mortgage rates. The index is near an all-time high and double its level in 2006 at the peak of the bubble — meaning buyers should find many more homes within their budgets. “I would never have believed this index could get so high,” he says. A rise in affordability should have spurred purchases, boosting prices and keeping a lid on the index. “What this instead means to me is that the credit is not available to most people,” he says. “Houses aren’t cheap if you can’t get the loan.” Simon worries that the problem will get worse in October, when Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration drop the maximum mortgage they will buy to $625,000 from $729,750 as a temporary increase expires.
What’s not meantioned is the birth dearth among young upper income and educated Americans (20-somethings and 30-somethings). The demographics just is not there to sustain the price level of houses today. I would say it is reasonable to suggest 20 percent fewer families headed by 20-somethings and 30-somethings these days compared to 31 years ago should take another 30 percent off the prices of houses - call that the reverse premium. Simon, in the above article conservatively thinks current prices will decline another 6 to 8%. So let’s say 40% more decline. Since Phoenix prices dropped 50 or 60 percent, I would think somewhere between 20 percent and 30 percent additional price drops in the next ten years are likely for Phoenix.
Also not mentioned in the article: It’s the jobs, stupid! People feel less secure about jobs, even those currently employed. Lots of people had to take pay cuts for their current jobs.
People are wiser these days to not get into the RE committment trap. A mortgage is slavery, more so now that we are in a deep recession. Only a fool would assume his job/income will last as long as his mortgage today and also he’d foolishly assume that he could get a similar paying job within weeks of terminating his current job.
From the article:
“It’s still a vicious cycle of foreclosures, prices falling and buyers remaining on the sidelines,”
This needs to be challenged.
Are buyers actually “remaining on the sidelines”? Or is the truth really the fact that there are no buyers at current prices? Or are there just plain no buyers because everyone has shelter and we have excess housing units?
Good point. Some buyers may remain on the sidelines by choice, but many are simply priced out by the perfect storm of lending standards reverting to historical levels of prudence juxtaposed against government-sponsored efforts to artificially prop up home prices.
It’s all of the above.
Summary:
No jobs.
Low paying jobs.
Job insecurity.
Buyer insecurity.
Market insecurity.
Excess inventory.
I am sure this was posted but anything that has “ominous shadow” in it deserves a second look. Knute, she’s headed for the rhubarb!
Bank Delays May Push 1 Million U.S. Foreclosure Filings to 2012
By Dan Levy -
Jul 14, 2011 12:00 AM ET
Lender delays in processing home- loan defaults will push as many as 1 million U.S. foreclosure filings from this year to 2012 or beyond, casting an “ominous shadow” on the housing market, according to RealtyTrac Inc.
“If you accept the premise that foreclosures are the black cloud hanging over the market, we’re not going to get price stability and people won’t leave the sidelines until that cloud is cleared away,” Nicolas Retsinas, professor of real estate at Harvard Business School in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said in a telephone interview.
3.2 Million Forecast
RealtyTrac in January forecast as many as 3.2 million foreclosure filings for 2011. Delays have persisted as state attorneys general investigate “robo-signing,” the practice of pushing through documents without verifying their accuracy. Total filings for the year are likely to be about 2 million at the current pace, compared with 2.9 million in all of 2010, Rick Sharga, senior vice president, said in a phone interview
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-14/bank-delays-push-1-million-u-s-foreclosures-into-2012-in-ominous-shadow-.html - 90k -
All of the banks are hoping the Titanic will stop sinking and be under way shortly. That is the only way they can come out of this ok. All the while, ice cold water continues to pour unchecked into the fractured hull as the ship slowly settles beneath the waves. At what point do they panic? There will be panic.
They’ve already panicked. They’ve already failed. That was what QE 1 & 2 were for.
That’s why many here predict QE 3. Or as many as it takes because if they don’t we may very well be looking at WW3.
I don’t get the rhubarb joke.
“I don’t get the rhubarb joke.”
I never did either. In 1978 during our first scrimmage against Wilton a bit of a ruckus broke out and as it was being broken up by both coaching staffs when one of our starting defensive tackles screamed… Knute, she’s headed for the rhubarb! Everybody stopped and looked at the big dope with snot hanging out of his nose and a half crazed look on his face.
After the scrimmage in the locker room we asked him what it meant. He had no idea, and had no idea where he had ever heard it. Anyway for the rest of that season whenever there was a big hit we would scream Knute, she’s headed ‘fer the rhubarb!
I just googled it and this was the answer I got.
Pat Brady, Roy Rogers’ sidekick, had a favorite expression. What was it?
“Hold ‘er, Newt, she’s headed ‘fer the rhubarb!”
Dimon Says Mortgage Clash Swells as ‘Everybody Is Going to Sue’
By Rick Green -
Jul 14, 2011 3:14 PM ET
“There have been so many flaws in mortgages that it’s been an unmitigated disaster,” Dimon said during a conference call today. “We just really need to clean it up for the sake of everybody. And everybody is going to sue everybody else, and it’s going to go on for a long time.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-14/dimon-everybody-is-going-to-sue-over-mortgages.html - 85k -
“There have been so many flaws in mortgages that it’s been an unmitigated disaster,”
Sounds like it is a bad business for Megabank, Inc to be in.
“We just really need to clean it up for the sake of everybody. And everybody is going to sue everybody else, and it’s going to go on for a long time.”
Read between the lines on this one, especially if Dimon is touting it. What he’s really saying, IMO, is: huge, broad action settling this in favor of the banksters, with no future option to sue.
No the bailout is right in the corner…..
Whirlpool is laying off 350 employees at the plant in Amana,Iowa.
Employees were told today of the the “employee reduction” which will be effective August 1st. The layoffs will impact 50 employees hired for temporary summer work and 300 full time employees.
again no one in the media will ask are you still making a profit?
Its the biggest question reporters avoid….next they will be moving the plant to mexico…even thought it IS making a profit …. Maytag did this a few years back in ohio and the unions were livid….
When I worked at HP my in-laws asked if HP “was in trouble” when they learned of the never ending waves of layoffs. They were stunned to learn that HP was superprofitable at the time.
Again all part of the theft from the American middle class.
It boggles my mind that there are so many on the right who consider taxes on the elite punitive when they have been instrumental in looting the jobs and savings of the middle class, intentionally or not. Why do we give preferential treatment to capital gains and dividends, these earnings were already given preferential treatment in the form of trade policy.
I don’t know if anyone here saw this a few days ago but CISCO is going to lay off 10,000 of its employees in the upcoming months. IIRC, that is 14% of its work force. That is nationwide. CISCO is in Silicon Valley as well as across the U.S. I have a gal friend working at CISCO in North Carolina.
They’ll just buy their stuff from China Inc. and slap their suspension bridge logo on it. Hey, its what HP does.
They already do. And have for years.
(guess you missed my post from the other day :lol:)
I have a former neighbor who works at Cisco. He was notified about 4 months ago that his job would be gone in 6 months.
Then this news.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy! (Serial cheater, etc.)
Jobless recovery going right according to plan. Party on.
This makes the third one I’ve seen in my lifetime.
Seven years of prosperity, and there shall arise after them thirty seven years of make believe?
“… thirty seven years of make believe?”
The years of make believe were the years we spent living beyond our means. Now the cold hard reality years are at hand.
Real estate investing during a housing depression can get real expensive, especially if compounded by a nasty divorce.
UPDATED: Frank McCourt asks judge to cut his support to Jamie McCourt
July 15, 2011 | 1:06 pm
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt asked Friday that a judge reduce the financial support he must pay his ex-wife Jamie, saying the amount of money he paid her last year is more than he will make this year.
“I simply cannot afford to support [her] lifestyle any longer,” McCourt wrote in a filing with the Los Angeles Superior Court.
He asked that Jamie McCourt be ordered to pay all costs associated with the couple’s seven homes — perhaps by renting some or all — or that the properties be sold immediately. The court set an Aug. 10 hearing date.
Frank McCourt said his income this year would be $5 million. In accordance with court orders, Frank McCourt said he paid Jamie McCourt $7.76 million over the past year, to cover temporary spousal support and to maintain the couple’s seven homes. In comparison, Frank McCourt said he spent $600,642 on “my own personal expenses and lodging.”
[UPDATED 3:39 p.m.: The statement from Ryan Kirkpatrick, an attorney for Frank McCourt:
“Jamie McCourt continues to live a lifestyle that simply is not sustainable. She has seven homes which Frank pays for, and despite many requests, she has refused to sell or rent any of them. No one needs seven houses. Beyond covering her home expenses, Frank has been paying her $225,000 a month to support her unrestrained style of living. Today’s request by Frank simply reflects economic reality.”
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She needs one house for every day of the week, so the maids have time to clean them in between.
The only real justice among the rich and greedy is divorce court.
I’ve met a few of those gold diggers. There is no doubt in my mind they deserve each other.
What happens if the game of debt ceiling chicken ends in a head-on collision?
My own predictions:
1) Karmageddon
2) Two-term Obama presidency
Posted at 02:40 PM ET, 07/15/2011
How default would harm homeowners, cities, businesses and everyone else
By Ezra Klein
(FRANK FRANKLIN II) It’s easy to understand why the government will have more trouble borrowing if it fails to pay its debts, or even has a difficult time paying its debts. It’s a bit harder to see why ordinary Americans, the city of Pittsburgh, hospitals in Iowa, and medium-sized corporations will have more trouble borrowing. But they will. And their trouble borrowing is the main channels through which a default, or even something too close to it for the market’s comfort, could deal a body blow to the economy.
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The 2008 economic crisis wasn’t started by a nuclear bomb detonating in New York, or a campaign to sabotage the country’s factories, or a plague that struck our able-bodied young males. Rather, investors bought a lot of debt based on subprime mortgages. They performed some tricky financial wizardry that they thought made the debt low-risk. They found out they were wrong. And then, because the players in the financial system no longer knew how much money anyone had, the credit markets froze and the economy crashed.
Now imagine that happening, not with the housing market, but with the government of the United States of America. The cornerstone of the global financial economy is the idea that Treasuries are risk-free. If they’re not, then like in the financial crisis, no one knows how much money anyone who holds treasuries has. But they also don’t know how much money anyone who depends on the federal government — be they businesses or individuals — holds.
This is how a default gets into the rest of the economy: It takes everything the financial markets thought they could know and rely on and upends it. It then shuts off credit, or makes it prohibitively expensive, for nearly every participant in the economy, from states and cities to hospitals and universities to homebuyers and credit-card applicants. That, in turn, freezes all of their activity, which destabilizes everyone who relies on them, which then destabilizes financial markets further, and so on.
It was one thing to have forgotten that this sort of thing could happen in 2006, when America hadn’t seen it for 70 years. But we just went through it. And if we go through it again, the Federal Reserve, which has pushed interest rates as low as they can go, and Congress, which has vastly expanded the deficit, have a lot less ammunition left for a response.
Are we likely to get to that point? No, of course not. But between here and there are worlds where the economy doesn’t crash, but because the federal government panics the market, interest rates rise and the economy slows. In a recovery this weak, that would be a disaster. And it would be entirely of our own making.
By Ezra Klein | 02:40 PM ET, 07/15/2011
Debt debate puts federal workers on edge
Employees concerned about pension, health benefits
June 26, 2011|By John Fritze, The Baltimore Sun
WASHINGTON — As the pitched battle over the nation’s debt crisis shifts to the White House, federal employees in Maryland are bracing for a series of benefit cuts they say would have a devastating effect on the state’s economy.
Months after more than 200,000 federal workers in Maryland were hit with a two-year pay freeze to help reduce a $1.3 trillion budget deficit, many say they now are worried lawmakers are eying government retirement plans and health benefits for cuts in the scramble to strike a deal to raise the debt ceiling.
The government has until Aug. 2 to raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit or risk defaulting on the nation’s obligations. Republicans and many Democrats want significant budget cuts before they agree to lift that cap.
“Federal employees didn’t cause the deficit, why are we taking the big hit?” asked Joe McGeeney, the president of the local union that represents security workers at Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. “We know that Congress has to do a whole lot, but why start with federal employees?”
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“Federal employees didn’t cause the deficit, why are we taking the big hit?” asked Joe McGeeney, the president of the local union that represents security workers at Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport. “We know that Congress has to do a whole lot, but why start with federal employees?”
- Yea and neither did the self-employed guy, or the millions of folks that don’t work for the federal gov. You act as if it’s unfair Joe.
Fairness doesn’t seem to have much to do with what is happening these days. For instance, in what way was it fair for the federal government to step in and make good on billions of dollars in AIG bonus payments during the Fall 2008 financial collapse? I bet those billions of dollars could have gone far to keep your rank-and-file federal workers’ kids in shoes for the next few years.
It will not come to this. Now the big businesses and banks are coming out and asking for the debt limit to be raised. Repubs will heed the wishes of their masters. But the deal won’t be done until the last hour. 2 more weeks of bad TV if you ask me.
“2 more weeks of bad TV if you ask me.”
It will be a tough call between this and follow up on the Casey Anthony story.
There’s an old saying the news business; “If it bleeds, it leads.”
“…in the…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUNIeOB0whI&feature=youtu.be
First Ron Paul campaign ad calls out the Republicrats on debt ceiling BS.
A US default isn’t a matter of “if” but “when,” David Murrin, chief investment officer at Emergent Asset Management, told CNBC.
“It’s inevitable that the US will default – it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline – and that its financial system will go with it,” he said.
In his book “Breaking the Code of History,” Murrin argues that the balance of power has shifted away from the West, with America as the superpower, towards the East, led by China.
He believes the US cannot afford to compete with the rise of Eastern powers.
“It’s very simple, its (America’s) empire system, its financial system is in decline, we’ve seen very little growth for over a decade apart from financial engineering and leveraging, which ultimately caused the debt crisis of 2008,” Murrin said.
“The only similar example is Britain. It was once an empire and when it lost its power over (the Suez Canal crisis of 1956) it had a large amount of loans outstanding to the Empire, and America owned most of that,” Murrin said. “That was the power America had over Britain and it ended the pound, but their values were very similar in terms of global geo-politics and the world didn’t really change that much.”
For investors wondering where to look in this environment, Murrin said one thing is clear: “You probably shouldn’t own dollar- denominated assets.”
“It’s inevitable that the US will default – it’s essentially an empire which is overextended and in decline – and that its financial system will go with it,”
Oh bugger…
Did Britain ever default on its obligations at any time since 1945? If they didn’t, this guy has put together a poor argument.
How big is that “empire” today?
Empires don’t default all at once. They default a little at a time.
Just like any corporation that stiffs its vendors before eventually filing bankruptcy and stiffing the rest.
To reduce our empire is not a gloomy prospect. Last time I checked, England still has a stock market, it still has productivity. It has some tech companies making technological advances.
Yes I am glad someone said America will default sooner or later. To raise the debt limit is to merely postpone default. Realistically, most people want a free lunch. Government refuses to cut itself. It was only successful cutting military spending across the board in the 1990s. It must do the same thing again, but include welfare, housing subsidies, food subsidies, any kind of subsidies to the lazy.
No empire == no military industrial complex
Sounds good to me.
England has a jobs, pension, lack of upward mobility and inflation problem just like we do.
Expats have been fleeing the country as fast as they can since Thatcher.
We need tariffs.
Again, just ending tax breaks for offshoring jobs would help immensely.
You are obviously anti-Republican and anti-Tea Party!
From 1790 up to the dawn of WW I, the US got most of its revenue from tariffs, in most years it was 100%. near the first world war it was 68 percent. With the passage of the 16th amendment tariffs dropped tremendously.
In recent times the NAFTA and other free trade agreements locked the U.S. Out of tariffs.
Ron Paul wants to end all the taxes except fund the US government by tariffs and excise taxes. Makes a helluva lot of sense now that we import more while exporting jobs and have less and less things other countries want. We will be forced to have a small government once again, and not be able to finance wars and be world cop
Ted Nugent: You have the right to remain stupid.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/13/you-have-the-right-to-remain-stupid/
Man-crush confirmed….
Ted:
You forgot one thing……What is the only difference between a good school and a failing one?
The good school forces you to read,write and speak ENGLISH.
We have to end this Ghetto ebonics crap…and eliminate all parole, unless you can read the New York Times in front of a parole board.
That’ s a tough one because it means a radical change from the niggggga lovin’ gansta lifestyle they are used to.
Are you willing to disclose your ethnicity? I have always assumed you weren’t Caucasian; now I’m hoping you aren’t.
Then you never clicked on my link on my handle when i put it there
The rap music is a big factor in the whole disintegration going on right now. Rap music cannot survive if people spoke English.
But no one will speak up because its culturally insensitive phooy! I have seen this for years first it was cool, then its became a lifestyle. And now its all out war on decent citizens.
2 of them N thugs robbed a 72 year old man of 7 CENTS 7 CENTS, them folks beating up a tranny till she passed out and then taping it…….all comes back to the music….and of course the parents who are probably just as dumb as their kids.
So how do we fix it….well we have a non Caucasian in the white house who could say something but he hasn’t.
So its up to people like Nuge and the rest of us to end political correctness NOW.
Its the staus-quo that wants dem peeps to remain stupid ..not me!
Absolutely beautiful Ted!
“Are you kidding me?”
Zee Wango, Zee Tangoooooooooooo!
Ted Nugent: You have the right to remain stupid.
One can’t take this man seriously. He only slams one party which shows he’s either stupid, ignorant or his biases overcome objectivity. But in that maybe he does represent the common man.
Well you are right about that Rio. Ol’ Teddy didn’t mention R’s in his spiel. I hope he realizes there are pariah’s on both sides of the aisle. I just like seeing a prominent person voicing his outrage at the system. Even if we don’t agree totally we can both agree the current system sucks. And suck it does!
I wouldn’t want to get into an argument with Ted. A silver tongued motor mouth if there ever was one!
Ted is a “proud of it” neocon and has been for the last 30 years.
Fact.
Here’s an interesting article about Eric Cantor and the debt negotiations.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/cantor_rejects_plan_to_spend_l030889.php
from the article:
For years, the government was able to purchase prescription drug prices through Medicaid at a big discount. Republicans changed the law in 2006 as part of creating Medicare Part D, which privatized the negotiating process.
Restoring the previous system could save taxpayers more than $100 billion over the next 10 years, and in theory, all of those savings could be applied to a debt-reduction deal.
The problem, of course, is the House Majority Leader, who wants to maintain the status quo, even if it costs billions more, and who just happens to be the beneficiary of enormous campaign contributions from drug makers.
“Restoring the previous system could save taxpayers more than $100 billion over the next 10 years, and in theory, all of those savings could be applied to a debt-reduction deal.”
What does saving taxpayers money have to do with hitting up Big Pharma for campaign contributions?
Seriously where the F were the T party types when this went through. I remember when GW pushed this trough and actuaries were threatened to not divulge the true cost to congress.
In wi we had a program that saved seniors millions on prescription drugs by leveraging their buying power. We just did away with this program in favor of medicare part d stripping millions of dollars from the state.
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2011/lar_pac/110713qe3_bernanke.html
With Europe engulfed in debt-panic and the European Central Bank (ECB) becoming a huge “bad bank” for unpayable debt assets, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke stepped into the breach July 13 by announcing to the House Financial Services Committee that the Federal Reserve is preparing a QEIII, with more expansion of its asset book. Stocks and the Euro momentarily soared, the dollar plunged.
Bernanke seemed to be defying what just-released minutes of June 22 Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting showed, namely, that only “a few members” were in favor of even considering another round of “monetary stimulus,” or money-printing. A few hours after Bernanke’s announcement in Congress, Dallas Fed president Richard Fisher said in a speech there, “We’ve exhausted our ammunition, in my view, and expanding the Fed’s balance sheet from about $2.7 trillion to more than $3 trillion might spook the marketplace. I do not personally see the benefit of more monetary accommodation even if the economy weakens further.” One day earlier, retiring Kansas City Fed chief Thomas Hoenig, no doubt aware of what Bernanke would do, had blasted Fed money-printing in a speech: “Part of our basic problem worldwide and here in the U.S., is that the emperor has no clothes and no one’s willing to say it. You print money, print money, and print money, but you don’t create real wealth.”
All commentary focussed on the fact that Bernanke was trying to save the Euro single currency—a hopeless task, and one that leads the Fed further into violating even the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Note that on June 29, the Fed extended unlimited currency swap lines of credit to the ECB and the Swiss, British, Canadian, and Japanese central banks. The ECB is being widely described as a “European bad bank” in the growing debt crisis, as it has lowered the standards for the collateral assets it is buying from banks, to below junk grade, and is buying from private equity funds, hedge funds, and investment banks. Will the Fed now be directly buying European sovereign debt, or European bank bonds, in support of the floundering ECB? Without waiting to find out, QEIII should be stopped.
An interesting report appearing July 6 on the financial analysis website “Zero Hedge”, used Federal Reserve flow-of-funds and bank reserves charts to show that all $600 billion of the so-called QEII money-printing appeared to go offshore to big Inter-Alpha and other European banks. The Fed’s purchases of Treasuries with its newly printed reserves from November 2010 to June 30, 2011 evidently were overwhelmingly from BNP Paribas, RBS, Barclays, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, and UBS. The “Zero Hedge” analyst concluded: “The only beneficiary of the reserves generated were US-based branches of foreign banks (which in turn turned around and funnelled the cash back to their domestic branches), a shocking finding which explains … why US banks have been unwilling and unable to lend out these reserves.”
Arguably, this violates the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, even with its 1932 “exigent and unusual circumstances” amendment, which still requires AAA-rated collateral in the form of U.S. Treasuries or equivalent, for the Fed lending to any “non-bank.”
But on more fundamental Constitutional grounds, an attempt to repeat this in a QEIII would be barred—and the QEII effects could be reversed—by immediate passage of legislation restoring the Glass-Steagall Act through both Houses of Congress. Under Glass-Steagall, not only were commercial banks separated from various kinds of securities-speculation and insurance firms. The Glass-Steagall principle is that only those commercial banks, thus separated, in the Federal Reserve System—U.S. banks—are eligible for Federal support in the form of discount window and special lending, deposit insurance, and other protective regulation. All the big European banks are famously “banking supermarkets” stuffed with investment banking arms, speculative hedge funds, insurance divisions, money-market funds, etc.
The current trans-Atlantic bad-debt bubble, imploding in Europe now, does not qualify for such lending or support; that gambling debt should be left on the shoulders of those who bet on it. Glass-Steagall passage would stop this latest panic bailout.
Do you ever read anything not put out by Larouche? There is a lot of good stuff out their on the web these days…
You and I agree on Lyndon….been reading him for years
“We are now paying for the funeral of Keynesian theory.” -Eric Sprott
There has been NO keynesian theory at work. We’ve been spending and going into debt during good times and bad. Even if one looks at total gov spending during this crash it’s hard to call it keynesian. State and local gov have slashed spending which has offset most of the federal spending.
“State and local gov have slashed spending which has offset most of the federal spending”.
“slashed” nah, they have been trimming. The slashing is up next.
LOL!
and this time it may occ at the same time the federal gov is cutting spending.
Cue combotechie
The point is that there has been no significant increase in total gov spending and the gov spent like a drunken sailor even during the good times, thus Keynesian theory is not to blame.
There has been NO keynesian theory at work. We’ve been spending and going into debt during good times and bad.
Oh that makes a lot of sense, Just like a hangover can’t be blamed on the drinking the night before?
It must suck to be a gold hater these days! Or for that matter, in the past decade!
No, No, they will hold their course and bash on and on. It really is funny to watch and listen to though. I for one have been getting a kick out of them for years. Cheap entertainment.
There is never a better time to hate a bubble asset class than just before a bubble collapses. (Just a casual observation, not a prediction…)
It must REALLY suck to be a gold short these days. JP Morgan and HSBC are reputed to have massive naked short positions in silver - wondering how that’s working out for them.
They seem to have undersestimated their own central bank.
I suspect they have massively hedged these positions with AIG.
They have the Bernanke Put and the Republicrats to ensure that any and all gambling losses are passed on to US taxpayers.
Someone should tell this clown to give it up, he does not stand a snowballs chance in hell of being elected.
Nearly 1/2 of Newt Gingrich’s campaign debt is from private airplanes
~ Daily Caller
FEC reports released Friday show that former Speaker Newt Gingrich’s campaign has $1,030,627.82 in debt.
He blames his consultants who resigned en masse last month. But the Gingrich campaign’s FEC report shows that nearly half of the debt comes from charting private airplanes. More specifically, the campaign owes $451,946.00 to Moby Dick Airways LTD.
Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond tells me Gingrich was unaware of the financial situation until the consultants left. Once problems became apparent, Gingrich made several changes — “part of which included replacing private travel with commercial.”
Speaking of consultants, Gingrich’s campaign also paid them a lot of money this quarter, but still owes $20,616.80 to Norway Hill Associates Inc. — the consulting company headed by ex-Gingrich senior advisor Dave Carney.
Hammond tells me that Gingrich is not replacing most of his consultants, an additional step he is taking to turn around the campaign’s financial situation.
“Newt Gingrich’s campaign has $1,030,627.82 in debt.”
Sounds to me like he is very well qualified to run the debtbeat U.S.A.
Like F&F give a crap, they have the biggest chumps in the world backing them up…The U.S. taxpayers.
ITEM: S&P warns it may downgrade Fannie, Freddie credit
WASHINGTON (AP) — Standard & Poor’s warned mortgage giants Fannie Me and Freddie Mac on Friday that they may lose their top credit ratings if lawmakers don’t raise the U.S. government’s borrowing limit in time to avoid a default.
S&P said government-controlled Fannie and Freddie, along with certain Federal Home Loan Banks and Farm Credit System Banks, could also default on their debts, given each institution’s “direct reliance on the U.S. government.”
The rating agency this week threatened to lower the U.S. government’s credit rating if the White House and Congress can’t agree to raise the $14.3 trillion borrowing limit and avoid a default in the coming weeks. It said there was at least a one-in-two likelihood that it will lower the rating within the next 90 days.
On Wednesday, Moody’s Investors Services said it is also reviewing the government’s triple-A bond rating.
The government reached its borrowing limit in May. The Treasury Department has said that the government will default on its debt if the limit isn’t raised by Aug. 2.
Congressional and Obama administration officials met for a sixth day Friday in an effort to avert a default. But Obama conceded that “we’re running out of time.”
Attention has turned to a fallback plan being discussed by Senate Republicans and Democrats. The plan would give the president greater authority to raise the borrowing limit while setting procedures in motion that could lead to federal spending cuts.
Administration officials and economists say a default on the debt would have a devastating effect on the U.S. economy.
I remember when Obama vowed “blank-check” support to Fannie and Freddie (it was pushed through on midnight on christmas, I think). How does that work with the debt ceiling?
That F&F debt was never intended to be federally guaranteed, anyway, was it?
Fannie and Freddie still have a credit rating??
Oh, I guess it is the same as Uncle Sam as their loses are 100% covered by the shrinking Middle Class taxpayers located in Uncle Sam’s territory.
The very same middle class taxpayers with hopelessly underwater mortgages and, in many cases, no jobs…
Our state paper has fought tooth and nail for a long,long time trying only to put a positive spin on RE. At least for once they have printed an article that fairly well tells what’s going on here.
- Home sales in Columbia and across South Carolina have been set back more than a decade as the economy struggles to recover.
The State - News - Local / Metro Jul. 16, 2011
And experts say sales won’t improve in the foreseeable future.
Sales were down 24 percent to 3,088 through the first six months of the year in the Columbia area. Statewide, sales were down 11 percent to 22,881, according to a report released Friday by the S.C. Realtors trade group.
Columbia area home sales fared worst among the state’s major areas, according to the report. The state’s coastal regions are the only ones that showed slight increases for the first half of the year.
The last time the Columbia area averaged 500 sales a month – as it did in the first half of 2011 – was in the 1990s, said Jay Graham, a real estate agent with more than three decades of experience in the Midlands market. “That’s our new normal. That’s where we’re at, like it or not.”
Statewide, sales are back to where they were around 2001, said Nick Kremydas, executive director of the S.C. Realtors trade group. But inventory levels and the number of days that homes are staying on the market before they sell are higher, he said.
Home sellers in South Carolina waited almost five months to sell their homes in the first six months of the year, about two weeks longer than the same period last year. In Columbia, they waited four months, a nearly three-week increase from the previous year.
And there is a 15-month supply of homes on the market now, compared with 14.7 months a year ago statewide and 12 months a year ago in Columbia. A healthy housing market has about a six-month supply.
The median price of homes sold during the first half of the year was down 2 percent to $146,000. The Columbia market fared better as home prices held steady at close to $140,000.
“I don’t think we’re ready to say what the new normal is,” Kremydas said. “The sales are still erratic. I’m not ready to say we are even out of this recession until we see some job creation. The unemployment numbers are staggering.”
Unemployment in South Carolina stands at 10 percent.
“When unemployment gets back to the 5 percent range, things might change, but not until then,” Graham said.
Earlier this week, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke hinted at the possibility of more government stimulus money if the fledgling recovery falters.
But Graham says that is a bad idea.
“Bringing back the government punch bowl” – as the government did last year, when it offered incentives to first-time home buyers – artificially inflates sales and drags out the pain, he said. “Let it do what it’s going to do. If it needs to fall, let it fall.”
Kremydas said two measures in Congress further could stall a recovery.
The Dodd-Frank Act opened the door for Congress to require home buyers to make 20 percent down payments when buying a home. “It’s a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction to some of the financial meltdown that we have experienced recently.”
Home buyers who used a government program that required a smaller down payment would have to pay a higher interest rate, he said. “We’re concerned as an industry that this rule is going to have a real negative effect on a market that’s in the early stages of a very fragile recovery.”
Congress also has yet to act to reauthorize the federal flood insurance program. The program is necessary in many coastal and flood-prone areas near lakes and rivers because there is no viable private insurance option, Kremydas said.
“Last year, it lapsed twice and it held up almost 4,000 transactions in South Carolina,” Kremydas said. “It created a huge mess.”
Hey, you guys are getting the new Boeing factroy where skilled workers will be paid a whopping $14/hr. I’m sure they can afford a $200K house.
Some old friends of our family are moving to South Carolina soon. My wife is close to the mom, whom we saw a couple of days back. She wanted to know how the CA real estate market was, as they used to rent two streets away from us; I said pretty much as bad as ever — stubbornly high prices leading to a near complete inability of qualified and interested buyers and prospective sellers to make a deal.
Then she told me about housing in SC where they are moving (don’t know which town); anyway, she said it would be a lot cheaper to make the monthly on a mortgage than a comparable rental. I told her this could be a sign prices have bottomed out to the point where buying is a better choice than renting, provided they are financially positioned to make mortgage payments, even in the event of job loss.
If home prices where they are moving are in the $140K neighborhood, then I stand by my advice. After having rented in an area where the same quality of housing would have cost them over $500K back when they lived here (pre-2007), $140K for a house looks a lot like a steal. If it is cheaper to own on a monthly basis than to rent, there is a good chance the financially prudent decision will turn out to be the one common sense would dictate.
Some examples of $140K houses in upstate S.C.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/25-Chosen-Ct_Greer_SC_29650_M60415-01933?source=web
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/608-Laurel-Meadows-Pkwy_Greenville_SC_29607_M62207-82237?source=web
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/230-Bethany-Ct_Inman_SC_29349_M60644-23789?source=web
Thank you. They probably need 4 brs given their family size, but from the looks of those beautiful homes with nice large yards, which would easily list for north of $500K if they were situated in North San Diego County, I am pretty confident they will do OK.
I should add their plan to move in with my wife’s friend’s parents for three months to save up for a down payment. It will be a great move for their family, as dad has remained steadily employed with the same company right through the Lost Decade, but recently has been constantly on the road. With their new SC situation, he will see more of the family.
Some housing market stories do have happy endings!
Not bad. A tad on the high side for sq ftg. But not bad.
Same class of house where I live would run about 90K in a decent neighborhood with curbs and streetlights.
Here’s what ~140K will get you here:
Avg sq ftg - 2000
One of 71 listing in just one of 16 regional zip codes.
http://search.har.com/engine/17214-Eden-Falls-Ct-Houston-TX-77095_HAR75433387.htm
Earlier this week, Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke hinted at the possibility of more government stimulus money if the fledgling recovery falters.
But Graham says that is a bad idea.
“Bringing back the government punch bowl” – as the government did last year, when it offered incentives to first-time home buyers – artificially inflates sales and drags out the pain, he said. “Let it do what it’s going to do. If it needs to fall, let it fall.”
Bernanke’s hyperinflationary money printing is leading us straight into a dollar collapse. That, combined with an endemic rule-bending, profiteering mentality that has taken root in the US, from Trump wannebes who signed liar loans to a Federal Reserve and Treasury that promote moral hazard and underwrite fraudulent and criminal behavior on Wall Street, is leading this country to economic disaster.
Argentina’s currency collapse in 2002 offers a terrifying glimpse of what lies ahead for America. “Finding ways around the rules is a national pastime,” said Sylvina Walger, a sociologist. “There is no structure in Argentine society to make people resist temptation.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/1410155/Crime-gangs-rampage-on-the-pampas.html
Good post WMBZ. Thank you.
No problem, happy they ran it. I have to tell you, my brothers wife is a real-a-tor and we never ever discuss real estate at any family gatherings any more. I am convinced they go through brain washing seminars like the folks at Amway.
Several years ago she said to me that the RE market was turning around because of the new incentives and in the long run RE was still the best investment.
I said to her, Katherine if I were in your shoes I’d learn a whole lot about foreclosures and how to sell them because the only thing that is turning is the huge volume of foreclosures that are heading our way.
She did tell me a year ago, that I may have been right. Wow, “may have been”.
Poor thing will never get it, as we say in the South…Bless her heart!
It is different in Charleston, they will sell them all.
Ritzy condo complex coming to downtown
postandcourier.com July 16, 2011
Few sectors of today’s real estate market have been hit harder than condominiums, but the developers of Charleston’s Concord Park site think there is unmet demand for high-end condos in the heart of the city, and they are pressing ahead with plans to build them.
“It will be One Vendue Range, on steroids,” said Wally Seinsheimer Jr., a partner in the Concord Park project and developer a decade ago of the One Vendue Range condos along the city’s Waterfront Park.
The hotel and condominium building planned at the corner of Calhoun and Concord streets would comprise a high-quality hotel with 70 rooms, 49 condominium units, a restaurant, a spa and shops.
As with One Vendue Range, the plan at Concord Park is to build 49 pricey condos — expected to sell for just under $800 a square foot — on property near the water, adjacent to a city park.
The main difference is that the condos at Concord Park would share a building with a 70-room hotel, restaurant, spa and other businesses.
That means someone living in one of the condos could pay for housekeeping, order room service, or have someone collect their dry cleaning. That’s the “on steroids” part.
“We really believe that the market is there,” said Seinsheimer, of Johns Island-based Dolphin Architects & Builders. He said the hotel is expected to be of four-star quality.
The courtyard-style, six-story building that will house the hotel, condos and businesses at Calhoun and Concord streets is moving through the city’s architectural design process, and would be the second building constructed on the Concord Park property.
The 10-acre site is bounded by Calhoun, Concord, Laurens and Washington streets, and is also known as the location of the former Ansonborough Homes low-income housing project, which was flood-damaged in 1989’s Hurricane Hugo, then demolished in 1992 because of pollution discovered in the soil.
The city sought to redevelop the site and in 2007 agreed to sell 3.5 acres of the property to East West Cumberland Park Associates, Seinsheimer’s group, for $16 million.
look at a sat map….seems like they still use the rail lines that goes the length of the property on Washington st and cross Laurens…. freight train along side a luxury high rise…. i remember Calhoun used to flood a lot too and they are only a block from the water…
I am eating my hat now. Two ladies outside my local (Phoenix) library today registered me to vote. They were obvious Obama supporters. But I reluctantly registered. At least I chose the Libertarian Party. They asked me if I will sign a pledge of support for my favorite Pres, Obama. I kindly said no. I will vote again for Ron Paul in 2012. I will again write him in for Pres if the Repukeniks again run a steamroller over Ron Paul like they did in 2008.
“Repukeniks”
Which name do Republican party members hate more:
Repukeniks or Retardicans?
Retardicans of course. Why? Because it’s accurate and precise.
Forgot one:
Republitard
Apparently they lack the grey matter to think this one through. I look forward to watching them eat crow.
Debt default would harm GOP most, McMurry professor says
By Jerry Daniel Reed
Posted July 16, 2011 at 12:01 a.m.
A McMurry University political science professor contends Republicans in Congress will find themselves under increasing pressure to avoid a debt default that could occur if the government doesn’t raise the nation’s public debt limit.
Paul Fabrizio, a vice president of academic affairs and professor of political science at McMurry, said President Barack Obama would come out on top in case of a default Aug. 2.
“It’s hard to see how the Republicans are going to win this event,” Fabrizio said.
Obama’s several advantages include the president’s bully pulpit, history, the expectations of government check recipients, and pressure from business groups that financed congressional campaigns but who dread the economic fallout from a default, Fabrizio said.
The president has the upper hand in being able to talk directly to the American people whenever he chooses, as he demonstrated Friday with a televised news conference, Fabrizio said. He is positioning himself to receive credit for averting a default or deflect blame onto Congress if a default occurs, Fabrizio said.
“If they don’t have a deal (by Aug. 2), some checks might not be delivered, and blame for that is going to fall on the GOP,” he said.
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“Apparently they lack the grey matter to think this one through. I look forward to watching them eat crow”.
WOW! Really? So just who has this “gray matter” that you think “they” the enemy don’t? Surely someone you voted for.
SC will likely go Rep once again. I’ll vote for someone other than the main party candidates unless Ron Paul manages to make it to the Rep ticket.
The morons will always “out-vote” the educated. They are just better organized in that they all can more easily agree on something (easily brainwashed en-masse). Just as they will out-breed, out-consume, out-eat, out-defecate, etc. We are all somewhat doomed…
Yea, but what I love about the morons or (TB’s) True Buffoons as I like to call them. Is that they really think they are sticking it to the evil rich folk. Sticking it to the man as it were, all the while they are being humped damn near to death by their own ignorance.
They get less and less as the vote for more and more, but being true buffoons they just can not figure it out. Keep voting the way you do America, it’s been really working well!
Not true
Most on the right believe in trickle down economics, thus they believe that they will become richer by doing away with ss and medicare (which they use) and by cutting taxes for the rich, cutting regulation on the banking sector and allowing outsourcing, or they care not about financial matters and vote to do away with abortion and force religion on the masses.
The dems vote to stick it to the rich only to find that their candidate is also a puppet of the elite. In this sense they are like republicans who vote on doing away with abortion only to find that their candidate does nothing on the issue to preserve it as a vote getter for the next election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU
So true, Liz. The intelligent are an endangered species.
Always have been.
Those must have been some seriously pretty girls, Bill.
Bill, better check your party status before the election….
When living in California in the 1990’s, I had a co-worker registered to vote as a Libertarian at a Repubturd table with two old ladies. Came time to vote he found out he was listed as a Republican–those sweet old ladies had altered his registration app!
I guess they couldn’t stand the thought of competition on election day.
Yeah. I considered that these two will try the same thing. A sign of that will be if I get tons of junk mail from the democrap party. I know I can reregister on line with AZ MVD.
I’m getting deluged with phone calls from various empty suits running in the Republicrat Duopoly’s puppet show. I kind of enjoy telling their campaign volunteers politely but pointedly why I won’t be voting for these jokers.
The change…. CIA is still killing people……
Bodyguard who killed Karzai’s brother was trusted CIA contact
“trusted CIA contact”
Oxymoron alert!
Whatever. The guys who blew up the Federal Building in OKC were former Army buddies in the same Fort Riley, KS based unit. Does that make the US Army responsible? Hardly.
Police in Ga. shut down girls’ lemonade stand
MIDWAY, Ga. (AP) — Police in Georgia have shut down a lemonade stand run by three girls trying to save up for a trip to a water park, saying they didn’t have a business license or the required permits.
Midway Police Chief Kelly Morningstar says police also didn’t know how the lemonade was made, who made it or what was in it.
The girls had been operating for one day when Morningstar and another officer cruised by.
The girls needed a business license, peddler’s permit and food permit to operate, even on residential property. The permits cost $50 a day or $180 per year.
One girl, 14-year-old Casity Dixon, says the three had to listen to police and shut down.
The girls are now doing chores and yard work to make money.
Let me quess: the girls’ parents are good mindless Republicrat voters who are now “shocked” to see the Nanny State intrude so rudely into their lives, yet who will go on voting their rights and freedoms away with every pull of the lever for an Establishment GOP or DNC candidate.
Stupid is as stupid does.
“I’d buy that for a DOLLAR!”
(big points to whoever gets that movie reference)
Seriously Sammy, I’d bet good money you are right.
Haven’t we been through this Robocop thing at least once before?
I’m not sure you really need a business license for that. I’ve heard stories of the cops shutting down lemonade stands, bake sales, etc, and then the parents go to the city and find out you don’t have to have a license for that. Just saying.
A biz license on top of two dubious permits doesn’t sound right to me either, but every city has different policies for this type of activity.
I bet the good citizens of Midway, GA, sleep more soundly in their beds knowing that the rogue lemonade peddlers have felt the long arm of the law.
This happens all the time.
“Bootstrapping” your way up is now against the law.
“When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.” — Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED
A Short History of US Credit Defaults
Mises Daily:July 15, 2011 by John S. Chamberlain
On July 13th, the president of the United States angrily walked out of ongoing negotiations over the raising of the debt ceiling from its legislated maximum of $14.294 trillion dollars. This prompted a new round of speculation over whether the United States might default on its financial obligations. In these circumstances, it is useful to recall the previous instances in which this has occurred and the effects of those defaults. By studying the defaults of the past, we can gain insights into what future defaults might portend.
The Continental Currency Default of 1779
The first default of the United States was on its first issuance of debt: the currency emitted by the Continental Congress of 1775. In June of 1775 the Continental Congress of the United States of America, located in Philadelphia, representing the 13 states of the union, issued bills of credit amounting to 2 million Spanish milled dollars to be paid four years hence in four annual installments. The next month an additional 1 million was issued. A third issue of 3 million followed. The next year they issued an additional 13 million dollars of notes. These were the first of the “Continental dollars,” which were used to fund the war of revolution against Great Britain. The issues continued until an estimated 241 million dollars were outstanding, not including British forgeries.
http://mises.org/daily/5463/A-Short-History-of-US-Credit-Defaults
“By studying the defaults of the past, we can gain insights into what future defaults might portend.”
What a great idea!
‘In June of 1775 the Continental Congress of the United States of America, located in Philadelphia, representing the 13 states of the union, issued bills of credit amounting to 2 million Spanish milled dollars to be paid four years hence in four annual installments. The next month an additional 1 million was issued. A third issue of 3 million followed. The next year they issued an additional 13 million dollars of notes. These were the first of the “Continental dollars,” which were used to fund the war of revolution against Great Britain. The issues continued until an estimated 241 million dollars were outstanding, not including British forgeries.’
Quantitative easing in its infancy!
Realtors Are Liars
Capistrano Mobile Terrace Files Chapter 11
Park owners say they cannot afford to make necessary repairs at the mobile-home site near the San Juan Hills Country Club.
The owners of Capistrano Terrace Mobile Home Park are filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the midst of efforts to shutter the park entirely.
“The mobile home park, purchased in 2003, has seen mounting liabilities caused by geological issues, deteriorating infrastructure, lawsuits by tenants over park issues, and failure of insurers to handle resolution of those claims,” said Capistrano Terrace Ltd. spokesman Ray Poulter.
It is not immediately clear how the filing will affect the closure report currently being reviewed by San Juan Capistrano’s Housing Advisory Committee.
“It does affect the implementation of the city ordinance on park closures, but we don’t know yet just how much. We are trying to get some response on that matter,” said Poulter. “The costs and obligations required by the city’s park closure ordinance also contributed to the unfortunate need to file for bankruptcy protection.”
The city’s strict rent control laws have kept the owners from collecting the money they need to make major repairs, Poulter said.
The park pool, for example, has been closed for the past three years due to “geological issues.” The owners say that because of last winter’s heavy rain, they spent more than $150,000 trying to repair electrical and plumbing malfunctions, as well as to clean up mud and debris.
The mobile homes are considered to be some of the most affordable places to live in San Juan, where the average home sales for about $2 million.
Poulter said the Capistrano Terrace Mobile Home Park was built as a temporary travel-trailer park in the 1950s. It was never intended to be a full-time mobile-home park, he said, but over the years, it has become just that.
Additionally, residents were recently awarded a court victory in a recent failure-to-maintain lawsuit. The residents are vehemently opposed to the park’s closure.
“…where the average home sales for about $2 million.”
1. Never realized ’sales’ worked that way as a verb.
2. Should trailer parks be sited in areas where homes cost $2 million on average? Seems like they could find a better use for the land.
My guess is the bankruptcy may have been engineered to eventually force the tenants to move and THEN redevelop the property.
What are you against people living in affordable housing in rich nabes?
I don’t understand your question.
What wrong with keeping a trailer park next to $2 million dollar homes…..They were there first. Don’t they have a right to live where they want?
Evicting them because they can only afford a trailer is not cool…
I don’t think he was saying there’s something wrong with it…just that due to location there’s probably something else that could be done with the land that would bring in more money than lot rent.
But Carl…….what about the people? they would have no other cheap place to live anywhere in the area..
Maybe if they paid $50-100K to each trailer owner it would be ok….thats what they do in NYC when you have a rent controlled apartment…
You are guaranteed renewals for as long as you want…and if the landlord wants to break the lease he has to pay you a lot of $$$ to move.
I realize that there are places on the coast including NYC where they have rent control and they don’t allow land owners to do something different with their land just because they could make more money doing something else. I’m skeptical that’s a good thing in the long run, but hey, if it works for you. You don’t really see that anywhere that I’ve lived.
But still…does it really make sense to do that? In the end what it really does is subsidize the businesses who want cheap labor so that they don’t have to pay enough for people to live locally on their salary or commute in from long distances, plus subsidize retirees and allow them to live in the place they’ve always lived even when they don’t have the income to pull that off at market prices.
I get why we’re sympathetic, but still, those are some significant market distortions…
Yes…but that was the way the property was sold with rent restrictions….otherwise the price would have been a lot higher and the present owner would not have had the money to buy in the first place.
OK, I guess I wasn’t assuming it was sold with those restrictions already in place. If it was, then I agree. Don’t know whether PB was originally assuming that or not…or just making the observation that there’s probably a better/more profitable use for the land even if restrictions prohibit it.
Yet some group of investors bought it anyway in 2003.
Who ARE all these stupid people with money? Or I should say “where” are they.
Send some my way, for crying out loud! I can do better than this whacked out of my head on Nyquil in the middle of the flu!
Speaking of stupid people and their “investments”, have you looked at the properties that We the People are on the hook for since TARP and massive transfer of Wall Street liabilities onto taxpayers?
Nah…who cares the bailouts are a good thing especially for the true buffoons.
U.S. looks to airline fees as tax revenue slumps
Airlines are likely to push back, says one analyst
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. proposed Friday that airlines provide more detail on the ancillary fees they collect from passengers for such items as luggage check and in-flight entertainment as part of a broader effort to find new sources of government revenue.
Airlines are expected to push back, according to Michael Miller at the American Aviation Institute, a Washington-based independent think tank for commercial aviation.
“It’s rampant regulation and it is something no other industry has to deal with,” Miller told MarketWatch.
Implementing the new rules could be costly for the industry at a time when it is still struggling for steady profits and would also expose an airline’s pricing strategy to competitors.
But tax revenue to support air traffic control operations, safety inspections and to build new runways has been declining for years as domestic ticket prices declined and airlines reduced their fuel consumption.
At the same time, revenue from ancillary services such as baggage check and food were up sharply. Airlines broke out those services from their base fares starting in 2007 so only customers who use them have to pay for them, helping to keep ticket prices low.
Last year airlines raked in $5.7 billion from baggage and cancellation fees alone, up from $1.38 billion in 2007.
By identifying more closely the amounts airlines collect for such services, it could help give the government a clearer picture of what could be taxed to replenish the Airport and Airways Trust Fund, which supports the U.S. aviation system through the Federal Aviation Administration.
Half the damn airlines need to go out of business and STAY out of business.
Yea but what about the governments fair share? That would go down also, which would mean what airlines were left would have to double up and then air fares would go up. Perhaps flying would revert back to the way it once was… For the well to do only.
Hey, I’m not well to do by any stretch of the imagination and that sounds just great to me.
Oh wait, didn’t Southwest Airlines just expand again? Don’t they have the best safety record and highest consumer satisfaction rating and most often cheapest fares?
I stand by what I said. Many of them need to STAY out of business.
High-tech job openings decline for third straight month in NC
By WRAL Tech Wire
Raleigh, N.C. — High-tech jobs are getting harder to find in North Carolina with the number of advertised openings falling back to December 2010 levels.
“The back and forth in demand over the last year indicates that there is no optimism, neither with employers nor consumers,” say the authors of the latest North Carolina IT Job Trends report from the North Carolina Technology Association, TEK Systems and SkillPROOF.
In June, the average daily openings declined to 4,090 – a 7 percent drop from May. Job opportunities have fallen for three consecutive months.
“The job market in North Carolina continues to erode after a good start earlier this year,” NCTA said. But after the recent declines, the report notes: “Looking back over the last 12 months it appears the IT job market in the state is stagnant.”
North Carolina’s overall jobless rate in May was 9.7 percent; the national unemployment rate in June was 9.2 percent. NC figures for June will be announced July 22.
See my post below.
Saudi Arabia Beheads Man for Attack on Woman
July 16, 2011 | Associated Press
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – Saudi authorities have beheaded a man convicted of attacking a woman and snapping nude photos of her in order to blackmail her for sex.
A Saudi Interior Ministry statement carried in national papers Saturday says the man broke into the woman’s apartment and attacked her husband before turning on the woman. It was not clear when the attack took place.
The statement says the assailant, who was not identified, was beheaded with a single sword stroke Friday.
Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam under which people convicted of murder, drug trafficking, rape and armed robbery can be executed — usually with a sword.
According to an Associated Press count, Saudi Arabia has executed 31 people so far this year. The kingdom executed 27 people last year.
Wow good thing for her that she was married and her husband was home, otherwise she not the perp would have been buried up to her head and stoned or in Pakistan stripped naked and paraded around the town.
Got that right.
Yes, it is a Depression. In fact, it’s worse.
Skip the rhetoric and check out the charts that follow the wordy parts.
http://www.businessinsider.com/end-of-the-middle-class-2011-7?op=1
Michael Snyder, The Economic Collapse | Jul. 14, 2011, 10:30 AM
the fact that we are facing rampant unemployment that never seems to go away should not be a surprise to anyone. Today, the “official” unemployment rate went up to 9.2 percent even though a whopping 272,000 Americans “dropped out of the labor force” in June. The government unemployment figure that includes “discouraged workers” went up from 15.8% to 16.2%. The mainstream media is proclaiming that this was “a horrific report” because most economists were expecting much better news.
Well, guess what?
Things are going to get a whole lot worse.
More job cuts are coming. One recently released report found that the number of job cuts being planned by U.S. employers increased by 11.6% in June.
It is also being projected that state and local governments across the U.S. will slash nearly half a million more jobs by the end of next year.
My local movie rental shop just declared that they are going out of business. At their peak they employed 20 people. They have been replaced with Netfix downloading and Redbox which employ 0.1 person to supply the same # of movies. The solution to technology and outsourcing killing jobs
1. VAT and trade policy
2. Make employing people cheaper - Mankiw recs raising fuel taxes and cutting payroll. I’d also cut taxes on the middle class and increase them on the rich.
3. Improve infrastructure and energy efficiency of the country w gov incentives and jobs.
4. Single payer health care coverage, ie business won’t have to pay for health care and healthcare can be made much cheaper.
The alternative is massive unemployment poverty crime and social instability. Looking around the globe I’m sure we will choose the later. The elite are not history buffs.
Just ending tax breaks for offshoring jobs, ALONE!, would help alleviate the worst parts.
Deflation would also help, in principle. It worked wonders to keep the Japanese household economy reasonably comfortable during two straight “lost decades.”
Of course, if you have spent away all your savings and put your households into hock, as America has under two decades of Greenspent’s leadership at the Fed, deflation is devastating.
LOL! Love the final paragraph, sounds like the D.C. teachers union has a stone cold genius in command!
ITEM: DC School District Fires More than 400 Employees
(WASHINGTON,D.C.)News Wire
The final bell rang for 413 D.C. public school employees Friday, after officials announced they were being laid off for poor performance and failure to meet licensing requirements.
Of the terminated staff, 206 are teachers- which adds up to 5 percent of all the public school teachers in the entire District of Columbia.
The biggest chunk of workers let go- 288 of them- were rated subpar by the city school district’s evaluation system, called “IMPACT.”
The program is Michelle Rhee’s brainchild from her days as chancellor of the D.C. public school system, and it uses five 30-minute classroom visits to determine who the good teachers are, and who the bad teachers are. Educators are measured by how high their students score on assessment tests and how well lessons are laid out.
“‘IMPACT’ is allowing us to do exactly what we set out to do, which is recognize and reward our highest performers, which is to support and develop our people who are struggling, and to move out our lowest performers,” DC Public Schools Chancellor Kaya Henderson told Fox News affiliate WTTG.
Rewards for the “highly effective,” can potentially- and literally- pay off big time. The same set of reviews that terminated 206 teachers identified 663 top performers, all of whom are now eligible for up to $25,000 in bonuses.
Still, the Washington Teachers Union has issues with “IMPACT”, and they don’t think this particular evaluation system gives their members a fair shake.
“‘IMPACT’ as an evaluation system is biased,” contends Washington Teachers’ Union President Nathan A. Saunders. “And most, if not all, evaluation systems run by other human beings have been proven to be biased.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g
As a fan of post-Apocalyptic movies and novels, this upcoming flick looks promising.
I confidently predict the first TV ad of any post-Apocalyptic era will be from the NAR who, like cockroaches, will manage to survive and tell us “There’s never been a better time to buy!”
That looks like a nice summer creep fest!
I bought Mrs. RAL a new set of 36D’s and now she has a herd new and worn once VS super bras. They’re going to ebay unless any of you sisters are interested…. realtors_are_liars@live.com
You bought those puppy’s for Mrs. RAL, huh? How kind of you.
Mama’s got a squeezebox she wears on her chest
When Daddy comes home he never gets no rest
Cause they’re playing all night
And the music’s all right
Mama’s got a squeezebox; Daddy never sleeps at all!
The Who
We like them.
sorry RAL right band size but a little too small for my GF
700 Bofa auctions scheduled to be repo-ed and added to the central OR inventory this fall? About 200 homes are sold per month in the same area lately. I wonder if the market can handle that, or if Bofa will resume massively rescheduling the auctions like before? It’s a given that our dire local unemployment rate of 15% does not help.
Will Bofa postpone some of these as they did before; knowing that robo-signing is behind them (hopefully), and there is a crop of homes waiting to make the list anew, as they have not had a trustee sale in a year.
RE Robosigning resolution: BofA did change servicers on my wife last month; BAC to Bank of America, N.A. Then they sent another letter stating(in the fine print) that if my wife did not dispute her debt then it would be assumed to be good debt.
She has already asked for the original note; it is on the way from the bank; and she will be disputing the debt from the “new” servicer(i.e. in name only apparently to clarify who owes them money legitimately). This is an attempt on her part to get more time in our free-for-now home. And to try to take the bank to task regarding following proper procedure. 8.5 billion settlement from Bofa to Countrywide investors must be admitting that many of these crap loans were suspect in quality; I assume for many reasons.
After all it was originated it was re-sold several times without proper procedures being followed, ripping off the state by ignoring laws regarding recording of new mortgage arrangements. And it was shoddily originated; with no income info required, it sure seemed to be dodgy; then that company was sold to Countrywide and that was then sold to BofA. Given BofA’s 8.5 billion dollar settlement with investors regarding crappily made mortgages maybe there is something wrong with wife’s mortgage and its subsequent allonges-reassignments that at the least circumvented state law.
After all; why else should they change the servicer from BAC to Bank of America, N.A.; then say that bit about not disputing the debt makes it a valid debt? Must mean that they fear those disputing it may point to some INvalidities? I mean, changing servicers from BAC to Bank of America, N.A. must have cost something so why did they do it?
Why not dispute it? If it was recorded incorrectly in any of its designations, some judges take issue with that. Maybe it just buys her some more time in the home?
Oh yeah, lots of homes in our hood are either being sold short or foreclosing as values have halved from 400k to 200K(or 150!). They are largely for sale; vacant. A few are being enjoyed by their owners as we are on a golf resort. New owners next door just bought theirs for 200k and are loving life thus far. Too bad wife paid double. Not something a few more shifts at the grocery store will solve; or even a raise at her lunch lady job!
“I wonder if the market can handle that, or if Bofa will resume massively rescheduling the auctions like before?”
What does ‘market can handle that’ even mean when there is a Wall Street Megabank monopolist on one side of it? If these trusts were busted up into regional lending organizations, with local presence, expertise, and a sense of community stewardship, NONE of the problems with a lack of flow in local real estate markets would persist — NONE! The bankrupt Megabanks should be returned to the American people, and not be allowed to remain within Wall Street’s domain.
My link fell through the cracks.
Did you all read about the Zerohedge article saying the PPT was being defunded?
If true, that will shake things Up!
July 10, 2011
Faculty Immobility in the New Economy
Imagine the star system if no one could go anywhere
By Leonard Cassuto
When Henry Louis (Skip) Gates Jr. left Duke University for Harvard University’s African-American-studies department in 1991, it was his fourth work address in seven years. I remember a waggish response at the time featured a Top 10 list of reasons for his departure. One: “Why do you think they call him Skip?”
Gates’s peregrinations were more frequent than we usually saw (even for him: He’s stayed at Harvard for 20 years since), but they were broadly typical. Publication historically stamped the passports enabling faculty movement. Departments that sought to “improve” did so by hiring high-profile researchers. Notice that I’m using the past tense here. The academic “star system,” as it’s been named, is confronting economic weakness in one of its foundation pillars: The recession is now keeping many ambitious senior faculty members—especially those in the hard-hit humanities—in place.
That’s because senior-faculty movement has dropped along with every other figure in today’s employment market. The American Historical Association, for example, reports a decline of more than 40 percent in tenured openings (including endowed chairs) during the past two years; last fall there were just 52 openings altogether (though not including senior searches aimed at specific celebrity prey that are sometimes not advertised). The situation in English, another discipline that collects and breaks down its employment figures, is the same. Data from the Modern Language Association show an almost-40-percent drop in positions in English advertised at the rank of associate professor or above in the last two years, and only 61 positions at those ranks in 2009-10.
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Some reporters sure are clueless about the seasonality concept; year-on-year is a much better indicator of trend than month-on-month, especially when entering the red-hot summer sales season!
June housing numbers are in for San Diego
By Lily Leung, Reporter - Real estate
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 9:26 a.m.
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SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: More than 20,532 home were sold in San Diego, Los Angeles, Riverside, Ventura, San Bernardino and Orange counties in June, up 11.6 percent from May but down 14 percent June 2010. The month-over-month increase is more than usual for May-to-June. DataQuick officials said on average, sales between those months is have gone up 6.2 percent since 1988, when the company began to track housing data.
June’s median price for all six counties was $285,000, up 1.8 percent from May but down 5 percent from one year ago. “Today’s median is also suppressed somewhat by abnormally low sales of newly built homes, which typically sell for more than resale homes,” this month’s DataQuick report said.
Banks gearing up to fill looming gap in jumbo loans
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the FHA are facing an upcoming cutback in mortgage limits, but banks say they’re planning to expand their jumbo loan business in high-cost housing markets.
July 10, 2011|By Kenneth R. Harney
How big a deal is the upcoming cutback in mortgage limits for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration? Will buyers and sellers who depend on jumbo-sized loans find themselves in a financing squeeze after Oct. 1, when the limits plunge in key markets around the country?
Housing and realty lobbies are pushing hard on Capitol Hill for a continuation of the $729,750 high-cost area maximum, but one industry is delighted by the prospect and is gearing up to fill the gap.
From small community banks to megabanks, the message is the same: Bring on the switch to lower limits. We plan to expand our jumbo loan business wherever market demand requires. There will be no financing squeeze for anyone who needs a mortgage too big for Fannie, Freddie or the FHA, provided the applicant is creditworthy and has enough of a down payment.
Congress raised the conventional and FHA limits during the economic crisis to ensure access to capital for buyers and refinancers. Those limits are scheduled to adjust downward Oct. 1, unless lawmakers agree to an extension — a move that would run counter to calls from Republicans and the Obama administration to reduce the federal footprint in the mortgage arena.
Federal guarantees support loans purchased, securitized or insured by Fannie, Freddie and the FHA, putting taxpayers’ dollars at risk in the event of foreclosures. Fannie and Freddie together have sopped up more than $150 billion in direct taxpayer assistance since being placed in federal conservatorship three years ago because of mounting losses from loan defaults.
On Oct. 1, the maximum loan at each of the three federal mortgage giants will fall to $625,500. Though the upper-limit decline is only $104,250 below where it is today, some realty and business analysts worry that buyers who need big mortgages — especially in California, New York, New England, Florida and Washington, D.C. — will be forced to make much heftier down payments, pay higher interest rates or be prevented from purchasing the house they want.
Bankers say those worries are way overblown. Cam Fine, president and chief executive of the Independent Community Bankers Assn., says his 5,000-plus members plan to take up the slack in the jumbo arena and have the financial capacity to do so. Community banks, which generally range in size up to $20 billion in assets, “are very adept at creating products that fit the needs of customers,” Fine said.
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Awesome: Another class action against Megabank, Inc. Keep ‘em coming, Americans!!! If we all work hard enough at this, we can get these greed pigs to give something back to our Nation’s people.
Banks’ inequity in home-equity loans
By Kenneth R. Harney, Published: July 15
Picture this nightmare financial scenario: You’ve taken out a $150,000 home-equity credit line to remodel your house. You’ve already pulled out thousands to pay contractors and owe thousands more, when suddenly you get a curt letter from the bank.
“Effective yesterday,” it says, “we’ve shut down access to your credit line. Although we haven’t physically appraised your property, an automated valuation indicates that it is now worth significantly less than it was when we approved your application. If you wish to hire an appraiser, chosen by us but at your own expense, you can appeal our decision.”
You’re in shock. You can’t pay bills for work you’ve contracted, and you can’t touch the money you confidently thought you had. Plus, you know that housing prices in your area have been relatively stable since you took out the credit line. How could a bank effectively devalue your real estate using nothing more than a computer program?
Welcome to the world of what class-action lawyers estimate to be massive numbers of homeowners — 1 million customers at one national bank alone — who had their credit lines reduced, frozen or canceled without appraisals during 2009 in the tense months following the near-collapse of the capital marketplace.
Now a federal district court in Chicago has given the green light to clients of JPMorgan Chase to proceed with a consolidated lawsuit alleging that their equity lines were yanked or reduced illegally, costing them billions of dollars in lost borrowing power. Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer rejected the bank’s motion to dismiss the case, clearing the way for a possible giant class action.
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