Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-23 15:47:45
With the current rate of economic decline, one should be able to find cheap housing in just about any city or town in this county when all is said and done.
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Comment by GH
2011-07-23 22:22:53
Unlike other third world countries where the land is wholly owned by rich land barons, all of our land is leveraged to the hilt, so yes, I suspect in 10 years land will be dirt cheap and with few of us left in the economic game most of us will be equally dirt poor.
Of course we could also be ripe for break up as a country, military take over etc. I keep trying to come up with ways we get out of this mess in one piece, but it feels more and more like the day you wake up and REALLY come to terms with the fact you cannot make your bills and your credit is shot.
I mean seriously someone what is the next big thing and are we there?
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Two interesting thoughts from the Oil City thread. I ponder these thoughts myself.
However….. the PTB(FedReserve) wants to make sure everyone is flat out broke before anyone can truly leverage a deflationary environment. All the $$$ at the top and us penniless peons at the bottom. Only at that point will affordable prices of *everything* occur.
“With the current rate of economic decline, one should be able to find cheap housing in just about any city or town in this county when all is said and done.”
Translation: When all is said and done most people will be broke and those few people WHO HAVE THE MONEY will be able to buy houses on the cheap from the many who are desperate for the stuff.
This scenerio will be the result of DEFLATION, not inflation; It will be the result of NOT ENOUGH MONEY changing hands, not too much money changing hands.
The Fed bailed out the lenders who own rights to the collateral which backs loans to home owners who leveraged themselves to the hilt. So it seems as though time is on the side of the lenders, not prospective future home owners.
Rhode Island city asks retirees to cut their pensions
- CNN
As cities across the United States struggle to keep their finances afloat, Central Falls, Rhode Island, is taking a novel approach to try to avoid bankruptcy.
The city is asking police and firefighter retirees to give up 50% of their pension.
On Tuesday, a state-appointed receiver, Judge Robert Flanders, met with constituents to discuss options that will prevent the city from filing for bankruptcy, but the choices seemed limited: either volunteer for the pension cut, or risk losing it all.
The city has a $5 million per year structural deficit, said Michael Trainor, a spokesman for Flanders.
“Going forward, it’s now at a point where a city is about to run out of cash,” he added.
Central Falls, a city of 19,000 residents living in roughly a square mile, has historically had difficulty reducing its expenses because of a decline in population and the resulting smaller tax revenues, according to Trainor.
Each of the 141 city retirees will receive a voting ballot and a packet by the end of the week, showing how much of their pensions will be slashed if they agree to volunteer for the benefits cut.
With August set as the deadline for further decisions on the financial future of the city, Flanders hopes to find out residents’ decisions by the end of the month.
Those who were planning to retire soon are now worried about doing so, fearing that they may end up with nothing. Firefighters in the city do not receive Social Security benefits.
“They’re very concerned about what’s happening, they worked 20-25 years of their career, they were anticipating having this benefit that they were promised the day they were hired,” said Michael Andrews, president for local firefighters’ union.
“I agree that real estate and *wages* are experiencing deflation.”
If you agree that wages are experiencing deflation then where is all the money going to come from to support the higher prices for food, energy, health care, and college tuition?
And please do not say “borrowing”. Borrowing was yesterday’s answer to spending issues.
If wages won’t do it and borrowing won’t do it then just what is it that will do it?
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Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-07-24 08:13:45
You can call it deflation. I’ll call it trickle up economics.
Like you said earlier,
Translation: When all is said and done most people will be broke and those few people WHO HAVE THE MONEY will be able to buy houses on the cheap from the many who are desperate for the stuff.
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-07-24 08:20:29
This is my perception of the short-term here in the US. How global wage arbitrage will play out in the coming decades with regard to inflation/deflation, I can’t answer that.
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-24 08:39:55
Prices for the things you described tell one story but the amount of money flowing into these things tell a different story.
Health care is an example: The price for health care is up but the number of people seeking health care is falling off.
Gas prices go up but consumption drops off which means the flow of cash that goes into gas consumption drops off.
Prices can go up even when everyone is flat broke. I saw it first hand in Mexico. As long as the government debases the currency it will happen.
Once interest rates go up and the government balances the budget, then we will get your deflation. As long as ZIRP rules and the Feds run near 2 trillion dollar budget deficits, there will be inflation.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-24 09:32:44
Anyway, just saying that Mexican consumers were not running around with fists full of pesos back then. Yet everytime we went to the supermarket prices were up from last time.
It wasn’t until Mexico went into austerity mode that they tamed the inflation beast. Of course a balanced budget meant that a lot of govern,ent largesse ended. It didn’t happen overnight and “la crisis” lasted for years until things got better. I visited a couple of times during that period and it wasn’t pretty. My mom and siblings only survived because I sent them money every month (and they had a paid for house!).
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-24 10:02:30
“Prices can go up even when everyone is flat broke. I saw it first hand in Mexico. As long as the government debases the currency it will happen”.
Yes, and we are experiencing this today. Of course many folks think it is pure market manipulation.
In February 2010, the entire faculty and administrative staff of Central Falls High School was fired after the teachers’ union refused to accept one of the “No Child Left Behind” options for restructuring failing schools.
In accordance with NCLB legislation, schools deemed failing have four options to follow for restructuring. The teachers’ union refused to accept to work 25 minutes of extra time under the “transforming model”, so the superintendent went ahead and chose the “turnaround model”, which requires a district to fire the entire staff (teachers and administrators)
50% is pretty drastic. Especially when your side of the understanding is already fulfilled and you’ve got no time to make up the difference. I suppose this is where things start to get ugly.
Sure it can handle Moro warriors but what about smiling meth heads with hammers? I think we’re gonna need a bigger cartridge….
SHOOTING THE BULL: John Browning’s .45 ACPCartridge
Hostilities between the two cultures quickly erupted into the Philippine-American War, which raged from 1899 to 1902. The second phase of this conflict, known as the Moro Rebellion, waged on till 1913 and markedly demonstrated the inadequacy of American small arms.
Armed with modified sugarcane cutting machetes (bolas), limbs wrapped in leather, and fortified by hallucinogenic potions, the Moro warriors proved nearly unstoppable by the .38 Long Colt and .30-40 Krag-wielding American troops. The search began immediately for a handgun cartridge “with greater stopping power and to be a caliber not less than .45.”
HAPPY VALLEY, Ore. — A bizarre, unprovoked attack outside a Wal-Mart has led to attempted murder charges for a local man.
Police say Jonathan E. Jones, 31, attacked a man with a hammer in the parking lot of a Happy Valley Wal-Mart store. Jones now faces charges of attempted murder, attempted assault and menacing.
The attacker again raised his arm with the weapon, but Anderson was able to block the next intended strike to his head. Anderson suffered a serious wound to his hand, but was able to use that moment to push the attacker away. Anderson said his attacker was smiling the entire time.
“He was absolutely high on something,” Anderson said. “His behavior wasn’t normal, not like a human … it was different.”
Anderson said Jones admitted to investigators he’d been high on meth at the time of the attack.
A kid down here killed his parents with a hammer this week. He was on 3 hits of ecstasy, he then invited about 60 kids over for a party with his parents dead in their bedroom.
“I don’t think the ecstasy had anything to with the death of his parents.”
I have been sober for 23 years and to the best of my knowledge ecstasy wasn’t around then so I have no idea what 1,2 or 3 hits does to a person. Nor do I know what meth does to a person. I can however tell you what pot, acid, quaaludes, alcohol and cocaine did to me. It screwed me and my life up pretty good but never made me want to take a hammer to someone.
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Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-07-24 20:07:18
Yeah… My sit down with Bill W. occurred before crack, meth and all the designer drugs. It’s a good thing it happened when it did.
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-25 21:08:20
RAL:
I dj some aa parties here, a very good friend and a great MC is a member…nicest bunch of people…i really enjoy not having to defend my dj equipment from wackos with a drink in his hand.
Got into another arguent with my in-laws. Their position is that we can’t raise taxes, can’t cut Social Security, Medicare or DoD, but simply must stop these insane deficits.
Of course, their proposed solution is simply to stop welfare and cut waste.
Argh. When I tried to explain that SS, MC and DoD + interest + pensions + VA are over $2.4T and we only have $2.1T in income… and we haven’t even covered roads, airports, coast guard, courts, jails, etc, etc….
Oh, they get so angry an me when I have actual numbers to apply to their argument that proves it false.
How huch goes to “Welfare”? $250B to Medicare, $50B to disability, $60B to foodstamps, $100B to unemployment, $40B to all forms of public housing and housing subsidies… It all adds up to about 1/3rd the deficit.
I don’t understand why wasteful DoD spending is so damnd sacrosanct to so many people? Are your in-laws aware that we spend $20B a year cooling tents in Afghanistan? Or that it costs almost a million a year to get a pair of boots on the ground there?
Have they forgotten the stories of the $600 hammers? Do they ever bother to ask why we invaded Afghanistan? Do they believe that if we stay there just a little longer that through some miracle that democracy will take hold and flourish?
I don’t know why we just demand foreign countries pay for our costs to defend them? You want 28,000 troops on the DMZ in Korea…well pony up the $$$ to keep them there.
Favorite quote of the week: unnamed US Army officer who said success in Afghanistan was when (paraphrased) “….we are able to turn Afghanistan into just another Third World basket case.”
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-24 09:23:44
d. Someone’s making a killing off of the war.
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-24 11:58:04
Haliburton
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-24 17:45:07
“d. Someone’s making a killing off of the war.”
George Bush and Dick Cheney, for sure. They should both face execution for war profiteering at the expense of this country and our soldiers lives.
It would be amusing to close at least some foreign bases. I’m guessing that many serve as the biggest economic driver in their respective areas and trying to close them would cause the local business owners that benefit the most to get on their politicians to try and prevent the closures. It would be almost like a sports team threatening to move to another city - the US could get more concessions out of the area.
Same goes domestically, maybe even more so. Especially in more remote areas, bases are probably the only economic engine keeping some of these areas from withering completely. If an area is very remote and there is no injection of money from the outside world, it gets pretty grim. I was on the island of Moloka’i a few months ago, and they decided some years back to shut down tourism as much as possible, and almost go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. The island is definitely hurting, people don’t have good diets or much access to medical care and are just haggard. It can’t last much more than a decade or so - the people who want it closed off will die off, and the young are leaving the island for better opportunities.
skroodle, You are not a scientist or an engineer. The space program was the proving ground for three generations of scientists and engineers, in which they proved their mastery of the trade. You can’t send a vessel up into space on the strength of an ill formulated opinion paper, or multiple choice test, the stuff of second tier schools’ liberal arts graduation requirements.
You want to continue the downward spiral of the Nation’s abilities for critical thinking and accomplishment? Fine. You got it. Promote the programs that require undocumented and ungrammatical opinionating. Demote that programs that are hard.
>>Perhaps worst of all, the shuttle not only failed its own mission but prevented NASA from doing much else. The shuttle was a flying money pit that prevented us from launching vastly more efficient programs, like the Mars rovers, and even other attempts at manned flight.
So as we prepare to mothball the shuttles and send them off to their dotage at various museums, don’t be sad about the end of the program; instead think of where could have been now if we’d cancelled the thing 25 years ago. And make sure our future spaceships are based in and judged from this spot called reality.>>
And today to get a man in space we must rely on the generosity of the Russians.
When I hear people say this, I’m reminded of my ex business partners.
NASA returns $13 for every dollar spent.
Why does this remind me of my ex business partners? Because when our business got into trouble, they decided to shut down THE ONLY PROFITABLE part of our business.
This is why we don’t need to stop social programs, we need to move them back to the state level. If social programs are at the state (and even county)level then the damned feds can’t get their hands on the money and repurpose it for DoD/ MI Complex / pork spending. Maybe the Feds could have oversight on state programs to facilitate interstate commerce and governance, but they shouldn’t control the spending itself… Eliminate federal income taxes.. they were unconstitutional originally, and some say the amendment to legalize them was ratified questionably. The feds had income before the income tax, and the income tax was designed to fund war (WWI). Lets get rid of the tax whose goal is to fund war!
How about we let the only tax be capital gains tax.. I’d be FINE with that…
WRENS, Ga. — You’ve heard the stories — copper thefts are on the rise. People are trying to steal the metal to make a quick buck.
It’s not just illegal, it’s dangerous and may not be worth the risk.
Within the past month, at least two people have been taken to the Joseph M. Still Burn Center after being shocked.
Two people, from two different states, are accused of stealing copper, taking big chances and losing.
This is a 911 call from Henderson, North Carolina:
911 DISPATCHER: “911, what’s your emergency?”
CALLER: “Ma’am, I have two men here burned, and I need the ambulances now. They are burned up. All I can tell you is that their skin is melting off their bodies.”
Nicholas Surrett, 39, died in the incident. Officers think he and another man were stealing copper.
Another man, 27-year-old Jonvan Spears of Union, S.C, is in critical condition and Cherokee County deputies believe this was another failed attempt. This week, Spears and two other men were severely burned after officers believe they were trying to steal copper at a brickyard.
Michael Cantey at Jefferson Energy Cooperative demonstrated — using a chicken — what happens to a human body when it makes contact with a high voltage.
“The contact that that copper wire is making with the chicken represents exactly what would happen to your body with that 7,200 volts flowing through it,” Cantey said.
The chicken quickly fried. That chicken represents you, your skin, similar salts and nutrients — same effects
The aircraft manufacturers have to certify their windshields against impacts.
The OEM I used to work at had a big compressed air cannon to shoot chickens at windshields. They would shoot the chickens, and what was left of them deflected/ricoccheted off into the field beyond.
When the compressor fired up, you could see every coyote and skunk within a mile radius come running.
Compressor running = dinner bell.
Then there was the time they didn’t thaw the chickens before loading them into the cannon.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-24 09:25:54
I’ve seen videos of the chicken cannons firing their payloads at fighter jet canopies. Pretty cool in slow motion as the canopies would bend and pop back out after deflectin the chicken.
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-24 09:32:23
“Then there was the time they didn’t thaw the chickens before loading them into the cannon.”
Incoming!
Comment by skroodle
2011-07-24 10:13:00
Thawed chickens are more destructive than frozen chickens according to Myth Busters.
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-07-24 10:58:44
“Thawed chickens are more destructive than frozen chickens according to Myth Busters.”
If I only had 2 choices.
1. Get hit in the head with a frozen chicken
2. Get hit in the head with a thawed chicken
I`m going thawed I don`t care what Myth Busters says.
I have a friend who’s a former Marine, and it…um…affected him in bad ways. He’s turned into a bit of a gore fan. I was treated to a picture of a gang of Africans in — Nigeria, I think — who had tried to steal oil by tapping into a pipeline and siphoning it off. They caused an explosion.
I won’t even describe to you the resulting picture. I only had two comments:
1. “God I hope those are dead.”
2. “Don’t you DARE make that your screen saver.”
Oxy, I had to be gently but firmly corrected on this one.
You are NEVER a “former Marine”. You are ALWAYS a Marine. There are some niceties of language if you’ve been drummed out for bad behavior, but those went over my haid.
Anyways, do you have a baseline for this behavior? A control, as it were? Do you know what he was like PRIOR to going into the service?
When negotiators can’t even decide where to start, it rarely bodes well for the outcome.
When Democrats talk of increasing revenues, they are starting from the CBO numbers which include the Bush tax cuts expiring and no fix to the AMT which everyone knows gets patched every year to keep it from hitting the middle class.
When the Republicans consider if/how much we are going to riase revenue, they are starting from this year’s rates where the Bush Tax cuts are still in effect and the AMT has already been fixed.
And, then there is the AARP crowd. They are actually believing the lies of congress that they intend to only cut for those under 55…. Like the 20% cut in Social Security, phased in over 20 years by locking COLAs to 1% below inflation…. So, you’re not going to be collecting 5% less 5 years from now? Oh, the cuts will just be for those starting SS after the bill passes… WRONG! And making Medicare a voucher system and locking the voucher to this years average per person expense…. That is for everyone toooo… including those alreasy collecting.
But, but, but… The Republicans siad everyone over 55 would be protected.
Dude, POLITICIANS LIE!!!!!
They are hoping that you won’t noice that your SS check isn’t keeping up with inflation and you are being forced to pay more of your medical, until it is too late.
The under 55 promise was only for Paul Ryan’s budget proposal. No one is even talking about that one, so there is no under 55 promise out there. None at all.
Hedge fund rejected by split pension board
The $100 million investment lacked the votes
A recommendation from the county pension board’s portfolio strategist to invest $100 million in a new hedge fund suffered a rare rejection Thursday, in part because board members learned the trader lost $1.8 billion in now-notorious “credit default swap” investments in 2008.
Partridge recommended that the board invest $100 million with Boaz Weinstein, a well-known credit trader who lost $1.8 billion in 2008 when he worked for Deutsche Bank.
Some board members complained that Partridge did not include Weinstein’s investment history in materials he provided the board in advance of his recommendation.
Partridge responded that his firm, Salient Partners of Texas, conducts extensive reviews of the investment managers it recommends but routinely excludes some details from their reports to clients.
“We normally don’t release the background checks to the board; it has never been the practice,” said Partridge
Abandoned and foreclosed homes a haven for crime in Lake Worth
By Willie Howard Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:37 p.m. Saturday, July 23, 2011
LAKE WORTH — Bank foreclosures have aggravated the city’s problem with run-down houses, leaving abandoned properties open to prostitutes, squatters and drug dealers.
“Some of the conditions are Third World,” Commissioner Scott Maxwell said during a tour of blighted houses last month. “We need to stop sugar-coating it.”
In the case of about 75 properties, the city doesn’t have anyone to hold accountable. They’re in foreclosure, but the banks don’t have clear titles. In other cases, the city wants to demolish buildings but can’t get clear title to them
“In the case of about 75 properties, the city doesn’t have anyone to hold accountable. They’re in foreclosure, but the banks don’t have clear titles. In other cases, the city wants to demolish buildings but can’t get clear title to them”
And who is paying the house insurance policy on these properties? If they aren’t insured, go in, find mold, declare them uninhabitable and bulldoze them. The banks will then have to mark the loss.
In the early 60’s San Diego had vacant property and the owner’s couldn’t get insurance (fire) so renting was very cheap in order to get renters and thus insurance.
<“Some of the conditions are Third World,” Commissioner Scott Maxwell said during a tour of blighted houses last month. “We need to stop sugar-coating it.”
IL–Nursing Home Closing
Associated Press July 23, 2011
ASTORIA, Ill.—
A west-central Illinois nursing home will close next week because of late payments from the state, the facility’s administrator said.
Astoria Gardens and Rehab Center has had to wait six months to receive its payments, said administrator Steve Axelbaum, who added that “nothing can survive in this environment.”
“It is criminal that we provide services for the state, and they don’t pay us for six months,” Axelbaum told the (Peoria) Journal Star for a story on its web site Saturday.
Arrangements are being made to move the home’s 35 residents — many of whom are in their 80s and 90s — to other facilities in the area, he said.
The facility, which has been in business for about a decade, employs about 40 people. The property on about 6.5 acres of land will be sold.
Melaney Arnold, spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Public Health, confirmed that the nursing home in Astoria was closing voluntarily. She said it’s the home’s responsibility to relocate its residents.
Illinois has a multibillion-dollar budget deficit, and the state has dealt with the fiscal crisis, in part, by delaying payments to agencies and providers.
“This is happening all over the region,” Axelbaum said. “It’s a real bitter shame for the community.”
Poor planning, states have been living in a fantasy land for decades. Bills are due, and the tax your way to pay off debt plan is not going to work this go round. Reality is biting many folks on the a$$.
Exactly, they figured they unicorn would continue to provide.
Of course there is plenty of money. According to the Federal Reserve M1 and M2 are still on the rise. Someone has that money, it just isn’t the state of Illinois.
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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-24 12:10:07
Maybe they should give businesses more tax breaks to create jobs because the ones they’ve already given don’t seem to have been enough?
Bills and due and taxes aren’t going to be enough. And now we see exactly who is going to be “sacrificing.” People in their 80’s annd 90’s, and those workers who took care of them.
Somewhere, there are executives at Goldman Sachs celebrating.
U.S. Growth Probably Slowed in Second Quarter
Bloomberg - Jul 24, 2011
The U.S. economy probably expanded in the second quarter at the slowest pace in a year as higher fuel costs crimped consumer spending and supply disruptions limited production, economists said before a report this week.
Gross domestic product, the sum of all goods and services produced in the nation, rose at a 1.8 percent annual pace after a 1.9 percent gain in the previous three months, according to the median forecast of 69 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News before the Commerce Department’s July 29 report. Home sales languished and consumer confidence dimmed, other data may show.
Americans’ purchases last quarter grew at the weakest pace since the recession ended in 2009, reflecting limited job growth that may keep holding back the world’s largest economy. That is among reasons Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said this month that the Federal Reserve needs to keep all policy options open.
“The soft patch has hung around a little longer than expected,” said Ryan Sweet, a senior economist at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania. “A lot of the slowdown can be blamed on temporary factors, but not all of it. Consumers faced several headwinds, which caused them to ratchet down their spending.”
$tarting pay: $6.25 per hour
.15 cent pay raise every 3 years
No Company Inc. provide Health benefits, use Gov’t provided services.
No 401k Company Inc. matching monie$
No right to organize against Company Inc. (SCOTU$ person)
No, “The Owner$ Inc.” never overtly practice family Nepoti$m for job openings, every position is merit based.
Yes, termination without cause is legal
Yes, you must sign these Company Inc. papers agreeing to 3-4-5 party “Arbitration”
Yes, underfunded Gov’t agency has peon grievance paperwork filing “system”
Yes, you can take 2 hrs time to vote, but it’s frowned upon by “The Owner$ Inc.” & HR.
Yes, it’s OK to donate monie$ to the same political candidate as “The Owner$ Inc.”,…there will be a flyer in your paycheck envelope.
Yes, your email & cell phone numbers are required for your perpetual “on-call” status
“So, are there any questions, no?, bet your anxious to get right to work.”
Koch, Exxon Mobil Among Corporations Helping Write State Laws
(Bloomberg)
Koch Industries Inc. and Exxon Mobil Corp. are among companies that would benefit from almost identical energy legislation introduced in state capitals from Oregon to New Mexico to New Hampshire — and that’s by design. Photographer: John Gress/Getty Images
Koch Industries Inc. and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) are among companies that would benefit from almost identical energy legislation introduced in state capitals from Oregon to New Mexico to New Hampshire — and that’s by design.
The energy companies helped write the legislation at a meeting organized by a group they finance, the American Legislative Exchange Council, a Washington-based policy institute known as ALEC.
The corporations, both ALEC members, took a seat at the legislative drafting table beside elected officials and policy analysts by paying a fee between $3,000 and $10,000, according to documents obtained by Bloomberg News.
The opportunity for corporations to become co-authors of state laws legally through ALEC covers a wide range of issues from energy to taxes to agriculture. The price for participation is an ALEC membership fee of as much as $25,000 — and the few extra thousands to join one of the group’s legislative-writing task forces. Once the “model legislation” is complete, it’s up to ALEC’s legislator members to shepherd it into law.
“This is just another hidden way for corporations to buy their way into the legislative process,” said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause, a Washington-based group that advocates for limits on money in politics.
New York’s property tax rates vary widely, depending on where you live
Homeowners in the struggling city of Fulton pay the highest property tax rates of any city in New York state.
For every $1,000 of a home’s value, Fulton residents pay $51.14 to the city, county and school district.
By contrast, homeowners in the village of Skaneateles pay less than half that rate — $24.77.
Everyone knows that New Yorkers pay high property taxes – the fourth highest in the country and twice the national median. But less known is that there is such wide disparity between localities within New York and that this difference favors higher-end real estate markets.
One example: A $200,000 house in the town of Skaneateles and a $175,000 house in Onondaga – about 15 miles apart — were sold at about the same time this year. The Skaneateles owner paid $4,400 a year in taxes; the Onondaga homeowner paid $6,400.
Collectively we’re doing what we can’t do on an individual basis. We’re borrowing massive amounts of money with the willful intention of sending the responsibility for paying it back to our posterity. What a spineless act! Forcing future generations to pay debt with which they had nothing to do!
But, Sir!’ exclaims a pompous ass among the Washington spendthrifts, ‘repudiation of our national debt by future generations would be dishonorable! We have issued our official promises to pay and these promises must be met by future taxpayers. We could not find any buyers for our bonds and other IOUs if they thought the debt they represent might be repudiated. It wouldn’t be fair to the bondholders!
Repudiation is dishonorable? I think the lack of honor lies with the present generation trying to foist its obligations onto future generations. As for ‘fairness to bondholders,’ they are willing to buy these certificates of debt knowing they are claims on the means of future producers who never agreed to the obligation. Why is that honorable?
Our posterity will not be blind. Once the children are grown and in control of the mechanism of governance it may become apparent to them they have been saddled with debt amounting to several trillions of dollars which were spent in an astonishingly reckless era. They will carry a financial burden they never voted for. As former Colorado Governor Lamm put it in 1985, ‘Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want—and their kids pay for it.’
If posterity repudiates the national debt and bondholders are left out in the cold, with whom would your sympathies lie?
“I was in chronic pain, and my family struggling to make ends met, food and gas prices going up, even keeping my job was iffy. Then I learned about a new miracle drug, made in Washington D.C. “$penditol”. “$penditol” is Washington answer to all the painful problems Americans face”
” “$penditol”. “$penditol” is not for everyone. Side effects may include a mountain of government of debt piled up on our kids, a sudden loss of freedoms, higher prices for everything, leaving a kids a lessor American than we had. Ask your doctor or Congressman if you conscious is strong enough for “$penditol”. And it’s so popular in Washington we have to borrow, I mean import trillions more of it from China. “$penditol” makes you feel better now, and pushes off the really bad stuff till later for them (next generation) to deal with.”
The educated 20-somethings are avoiding marriage until at least in their late 20s. They realize that if they have kids, their kids will basically be debt slaves to pay for the ancestor’s desire for big government and the nanny state.
This is part of the marriage strike. It’s bigger though. It’s the strike against slavery at birth.
I thought that it had to with the fact that those educated young people like to complete their education, get a career started, and only then get married and have babies. The size of the government debt is a probably not a big factor.
Interestingly, that order (education -> career -> marriage -> babies) is a great class indicator. I know a woman who had a kid pretty young, then got married and got a crappy customer service job. Now she’s around 42, and the two kids are more or less grown. She’s trying to get a bachelor’s degree (online) and there’s a plan to get a master’s degree, presumably to get a better job. She’s a nice woman, but this is not likely to work out for her.
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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-24 11:38:47
Well she has a better chance of getting ahead of her peers if she finishes the degrees. Hopefully they are useful degrees.
Yes tight lending standards and bigger down payments must be the problem with the housing recovery. Here is the sale and loan info on the house that I bid on, but according to the crooked Realtor who had the listing and would not return my calls for 4 days and then said I was second in line with my full price offer that I had in 5 hours later.
Sale Date Sale Price
04/28/2011 $162,200
Type: MTG
Date/Time: 5/10/2011 11:31:25
CFN: 20110169042
Book Type: O
Book/Page: 24515/1811
Pages: 5
Consideration: $158,088.00
Party 1: ROURKE ADAM C
Party 2: MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS INC
GROUP ONE MORTGAGE INC
Legal: CINQUEZ PK L70 L
Phony documents increase in hard economic times
Charlotte-area property owners often victims.
Sunday, July 24th
Some of the documents forgive debt. Others cancel contracts, declare citizens exempt from taxes or even grant home ownership.
Problem is, they’re all fake. And the phony paper can create a nightmare for unsuspecting property owners: stolen identities, seized homes and long hours in court to set the record straight.
In one recent case in Union County, authorities say two scammers obtained a false deed for a vacant home, seized the property during a real estate showing and changed the locks before sheriff’s deputies arrested them a few days later.
Real estate experts and local officials say bogus documents are becoming more common in Charlotte and other places where economic uncertainty and mortgage woes persist. Some fake papers come from borrowers desperate to escape financial hardship; other filers appear to be motivated by political or religious causes.
Although the problem isn’t widespread across North Carolina, it’s a rising concern.
“They were a novelty (a few years ago),” said Mecklenburg County Register of Deeds David Granberry, whose office processes thousands of county records every week. “You’d see one and you’d show it around to everybody. Now, everybody sees them.”
About 200 questionable documents, from fake deeds to letters proclaiming mortgage debts wiped away, have surfaced in Mecklenburg this year - up significantly from before the recession, said Granberry, who was elected to the post in 2008.
Sometimes the paperwork is harmless: jabs at the government or big companies with no legal standing. But in other cases, scammers file documents in an effort to evade payments or control real estate.
A few recent offenders:
– A deed, created to look like it’s from a bank, that transfers the title of a Charlotte property to another owner.
– A certificate of satisfaction showing a $151,900 debt had been paid.
– An affidavit granting the filer “diplomatic status, diplomatic immunity and … the status and treatment of a foreign Sovereign,” plus the right to travel internationally.
Such scams come and go, but they’ve surged in parts of the country in recent years amid the rising tide of distressed properties. In Mecklenburg County last year, for instance, half of residential property sales involved a foreclosed home or one on the brink of foreclosure. Now the Internet makes it easy to find detailed directions on how to fake documents, said Tom Miller, legal counsel at the N.C. Real Estate Commission.
Authorities say some of the fake papers have come from “sovereign citizens,” anti-government crusaders who claim to be above the law. Others come from people who claim to be members of the Moorish Science Temple of America, an obscure religious group. Their motives are sometimes unclear, but in some cases, the documents seek everything from name changes to home ownership to international travel rights.
In a federal sentencing hearing in Charlotte last week, a woman accused of participating in a massive mortgage fraud scam told the court she couldn’t be sentenced because she was a sovereign entity representing herself. Alicia Taylor, who prosecutors said helped facilitate fraudulent loans in the Operation Wax House scheme, had filed paperwork declaring her special status. As authorities handcuffed her and led her from the courtroom, she told the judge he lacked jurisdiction to sentence her.
But a growing number of false documents are clearly tied to the recession, Miller said. Some are from people who have fallen on hard times; others come from scammers who offer to help them - for a fee - by filing documents purporting to eliminate debt or halt the foreclosure process.
“How is the ordinary citizen, who’s stressed out of his mind, supposed to know the difference?” Miller said. “He wants to believe that all of this is true.”
It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be an expert on all facets of our bureaucratic life. You HAVE to trust that the system of checks and balances, rewards and punishments, rules and regulations, works.
There is NO other choice.
It is reasonable to expect a modicum of self education, but no one can be an expert at everything.
Troubled David Wu reaches out to Nancy Pelosi
By JOHN BRESNAHAN | 7/23/11 POLITICO
Rep. David Wu spoke to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other top Democrats on Saturday about his political future in the wake of allegations of a sexual encounter with a teenager, but it is not clear whether the Oregon Democrat will step down from office.
Wu has been accused of having an “unwanted sexual encounter” with the teenage daughter of a longtime friend last year over Thanksgiving weekend. The teenager, whose identity has not been disclosed, and her family have not filed any criminal complaint against the longtime lawmaker, but the incident, the second accusation of inappropriate sexual behavior against Wu, is “extremely troubling” to Pelosi and other Democrats, say Democratic insiders.
Pelosi has been in the Capitol all day as she and other congressional leaders are struggling to reach a deal to raise the U.S. government’s $14.3 trillion debt ceiling before a default deadline of Aug. 2. Pelosi said she was too busy to comment on the Wu scandal.
Democratic insiders would not comment on Pelosi’s conversation with Wu other than to confirm that the two had spoken and other senior House Democrats have contacted the lawmaker as well.
Wu, who was born in Taiwan, has disappeared from public view in the past day. He is believed to be holed up in his congressional office or residence on Capitol Hill. Wu has not commented on the allegations other than to release a short statement calling the matter “very serious.”
In 1976, Wu was accused of attempted rape by a former girlfriend. No charges were filed in that case, but Wu, who was then attending Stanford University, was required to see a counselor and was disciplined by the university.
Rep. David Wu crashed car in Northwest Portland last year, says he fell asleep
Published: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 8:09 PM
By Janie Har,
The Oregonian The Oregonian
U.S. Rep. David Wu crashed his vehicle into a parked car in Northwest Portland last year, but passed a police field sobriety test and the incident never showed up in a police report.
No one was injured after the Feb. 19, 2010 incident. The congressman’s spokesman, Erik Dorey, said Wu fell asleep while driving.
Still, the woman who called 9-1-1 to report the incident said she assumed there was “some kind of disability if he was driving on the wrong side of the street.” She also said that Wu did not want her to call police.
“He says he fell asleep,” says Karen Fog, in the recording. “I don’t believe him.”
“So disabled people drive on the wrong side of the road?”
I don`t know about that but they get some great parking spaces. Now I have seen 2 drunk people and 1 guy on a suicide mission drive on the wrong side of the road in my life. The suicide mission dude drove right past me on I95 going the wrong way in 1980.
It’s looking increasingly likely that those who have been hoping the debt ceiling will not be raised will get their wish, as it appears the Democrats and the Republicans cannot find room for a compromise.
The Wall Street Journal
POLITICS
JULY 24, 2011, 9:03 A.M. ET
Debt Talks Dissolve Again
BY CAROL E. LEE, COREY BOLES AND NAFTALI BENDAVID
WASHINGTON – Congressional talks dissolved in recrimination again Saturday night, as the latest proposal for cutting the deficit and raising the government’s debt limit hit a wall with 10 days left before the U.S. begins defaulting on its obligations.
Republican and Democratic leaders had identified immediate spending cuts of about $1 trillion with future cuts to be specified by a commission.
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Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner first told Congress in January that the debt ceiling would need to be raised.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Lawmakers rushed Sunday to find a solution to the debt ceiling debate that would provide some measure of certainty for financial markets, even as both sides continued to spar in public.
The ceiling must be raised by Aug. 2. Lawmakers have been negotiating for months, looking for a way to both cut spending and raise the nation’s legal borrowing limit.
Still, there is no clear path forward.
“It’s taken us seven months to get to the place where we are now,” Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union. “We’re almost out of runway. We’re not nowhere, but we’re almost out of runway.”
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The deal was not reached by July 22, and the market shrugged. I begin to doubt those who claim the asset markets will sell off if no debt ceiling deal is reached, as it seems like some selling would have already occurred on July 22, given the lack of apparent progress on a deal as of Friday.
It’s not funny anymore. Yesterday, when asked about the negotiations between the White House and Congressional Republicans over raising the $14.3 trillion U.S. debt ceiling, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said with a straight face that “Republicans may need to see markets drop 500 points” before agreeing to a deal.
Did that get your attention? Sure, Pelosi’s statement may be mere political gesturing, but I am starting to worry. The debt ceiling deadline is August 2nd, which is less than three weeks away. And to get legislation passed in time, an agreement needs to be reached even earlier, like by July 22nd (one week away). I think it fair to say that most investor portfolios are not prepared for a 500-point stock market drop.
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“I think it fair to say that most investor portfolios are not prepared for a 500-point stock market drop.”
That is kind of a lame statement, assuming the ‘500-point stock market drop’ refers to the Dow Jones Industrial Average. A quick look back over the year so far shows we have already built in a cushion for a 2600-point DJIA drop off the 10K low point set at the end of last summer.
Post investigation: Did stimulus money create jobs in Palm Beach County?
By Charles Elmore Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 9:33 a.m. Sunday, July 24, 2011
The largest stimulus-fueled road projects in Palm Beach County have created less than 20 percent of the jobs once promised, a Palm Beach Post analysis based on federal job-creation standards shows.
Though the Obama administration pitched stimulus projects as “shovel-ready,” only half of Palm Beach County’s 12 road projects were complete entering July, more than two years after Congress’ approval in February 2009. And the region’s biggest project, the Indian Street Bridge in Martin County, has barely begun.
Florida benefited more than any other state with about 60,000 stimulus-related jobs created or saved in the first quarter of 2011, according to federal statistics compiled at recovery.gov. The biggest chunk went to teachers whose layoffs were averted, at least temporarily, with federal aid.
Local officials forecast nearly 600 jobs at five of Palm Beach County’s largest projects in early 2009. At least that many people got paychecks. But the hours worked amount to slightly more than 100 “full-time equivalent” jobs, based on 40-hour work weeks.
Several city officials said there wasn’t much guidance on how to estimate jobs in the scramble of early 2009 and it’s not really fair to compare the numbers now.
“The joke of something being shovel-ready is not funny if you’ve been unemployed for two years or more,” said Sean Snaith, director of the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Economic Competitiveness. “I think the judgment of the stimulus package is it didn’t live up to its billing.”
The view looks different from under Rafael Vicente’s hard hat.
He said stimulus spending preserved his job as a senior inspector with a contractor hired for projects including work on Blue Heron Boulevard and A1A in Riviera Beach.
60 jobs become 17
Take Royal Palm Beach, where a main boulevard bearing the village’s name attracted $2.6 million in federal money to add bike lanes, curbs and landscaping. The village told county planners it expected the work to create 60 jobs in 2009.
Work began in May 2010 and was scheduled for completion in about a year, though village officials say it may be September before it’s done.
So Rafael Vicente was one of the eight guys watching the two guys work on these projects while the well connected contractor he works for received obscene amounts of stimulus money.
“The joke of something being shovel-ready is not funny if you’ve been unemployed for two years or more,” said Sean Snaith, director of the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Economic Competitiveness. “I think the judgment of the stimulus package is it didn’t live up to its billing.”
Another “joke” is that this buffoon still has a job!
I would love to watch Reid throw a hissy/sissy fit, it just has to be hilarious!
Congress ditches Obama on debt talks
POLITICO 44 - 7-24-11
That’s not to say Saturday’s congressional takeover went well.
In a frantic bid to avoid causing a worldwide economic disruption, debt negotiations have shifted wholly to Capitol Hill, as a frustrated President Barack Obama has taken a step back and allowed House and Senate leaders to try to find a way out of the debt-ceiling debacle. After congressional leaders told Obama at the White House Saturday morning they would attempt to stave off the crisis before Asian markets open Sunday evening, leadership aides raced to put together a framework that both parties could support.
With the president staying out of the picture, congressional leaders struggled to make progress on a temporary two-step solution that raises the debt limit with some offsetting cuts.
In an extraordinary Saturday evening session in the Capitol, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sat around negotiating, on their own turf, without White House aides present.
The four smiled for the TV cameras during a photo-op at the top of their 50-minute meeting, but no one would say a word about whether they had made any progress.
“Bye,” Boehner told a reporter who asked about whether he could reassure the country a deal could be reached.
But after the cameras left Boehner’s office, talks grew tense as the four argued over the contours of a package that could define the next 16 months of the congressional and campaign season - and have widespread economic implications.
Reid was “very angry” in the meeting with Boehner and McConnell, according to a Democratic official. Following the meeting, Pelosi escorted Reid back to her office because she didn’t want the furious majority leader to say anything to the press. Reid is “adamant” about no short-term extension of the debt ceiling, the official said.
For Republicans, taking the talks out of the White House has at least something to do with optics — very few Republicans want to vote for a deal with Obama’s name attached to it.
House conservatives have grown deeply distrustful of Obama’s motivations and were skeptical of the “grand bargain” Boehner was negotiating with the president. He didn’t share the details of his negotiations with the House Republican Conference and many of them were privately concerned about any agreement between Obama and the speaker, particularly on the thorny issue of tax increases.
During tense negotiations Saturday night, Reid and Pelosi signaled a willingness to consider a GOP idea to enact a two-step process, calling for trillions of dollars worth of spending cuts and extending the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion through 2012. The idea was similar to one Obama rejected in his talks with Boehner about a week back - but White House officials weren’t in the room Saturday evening.
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Interesting conjecture on the effects of the debt ceiling outcome on the U.S. economy; according to this analyst, all outcomes point to near-term recession.
As I type, there is still significant uncertainty about the debt ceiling. Will the Republicans give in and allow more spending, or will the Republicans stand firm and bring the government’s operation to a standstill?
If the debt ceiling isn’t raised on time to make the August payments on US Treasury securities, the only options would be for the government to immediately print money to pay the securities or for the US government to immediately shutdown operations, halting paychecks and possibly even halting all federal retirement checks and social security checks.
Because T-bills currently yield 0.02% or below, there is not a strong argument that there is significant need to curtail the debt limit. But of course, there is an argument that this economy is getting totally out of control, and taking any efforts which haven’t been tried yet could be worth a shot.
Effects of the Republican Solution:
If the government is forced to shutdown even just for a few days or the debt limit increase is only very small, there will be no way for the economy to escape a double dip recession. The budget deficit will see immediate improvement, but incomes for much of the US will be lowered. This income reduction will result in an immediate drop in consumer spending, which will decrease GDP, but it will also help reduce the trade deficit. This will result in a strengthening of the dollar. So in other words, the Republican solution and threats will lead to a stronger dollar, but a definite recession. I believe this policy action would effectively take away power from the Federal Reserve and instead put the power in the hands of politicians.
Effects of the Democrat Solution:
On the other hand, using the Democrats’ methods of upping the debt limit right away and without much caution will result in a continuation of what has been occurring for the past several years. The dollar will continue to weaken, which will stimulate net exports, and slightly boost the private sector job market. The Democrats’ plan relies more on a waiting game for the Chinese yuan to be revalued properly to stimulate US exports, while the Republican plan attempts to force even more efficiency on the US economy without any crutches whatsoever.
Analysis:
Either plan will actually work, but politically the Republicans will have the ability to make it appear as if president Obama has destroyed the economy by putting it through two recessions, the second one occurring right before the elections. The truth, without party bias, is that the Republican plan is much harder on America in the short run, but better in the long run. The Democrats’ plan is easier in the short run, but worse for the long run. With such a vicious economy, with seemingly no improvement in sight for years, there is a great argument for either direction. I think if the Republicans directed their government spending cuts energies on the war rather than on essential services and income to the poor, they would have nearly universal support. The logic being, if everybody is totally messed up anyways, why not just officially mess up hard and end the pain sooner? Kind of like pulling off a band-aid quickly rather than slowly. I tend to agree with that philosophy.
The problem is that Republican theory is not designed to improve the economy; it is designed to get their party members elected and nothing more.
Investment Decision Making:
I think it is somewhat safe to prepare for a recession at this point, but if the Republican plans go through, a recession is a near certainty. The recession will probably not hit that hard though because the economy is already in such ruins. The last recession we had would have been much, much deeper if government spending were not increased like it was. Those government jobs which cushioned the recession are now going to be erased due to lack of government ability to pay.
If the Republicans get their way, the best portfolio positioning for a recession will be to take long positions in high duration government bonds such as the (TLT) bond fund. With less debt issued, inflation is much lower of a concern, and the likelihood of a government default in the future decreases when fiscal policy is forced like it will be. Gold (GLD) will be undesirable to hold because fiscal restraint will cause the dollar to strengthen. Also, deflation could come around again if the recession is strong enough, further causing (GLD) to be undesirable. The flight to precious metals in past recessions would likely not occur because this recession would be because of fiscal restraint rather than increased US debt. At the least, Gold would stop its monumental rise. Stocks (SPY, QQQ, DIA), would likely be undesirable to own due to pressure on US exporters from the stronger dollar. In short, the Republican plan should make one bullish for government bonds.
If the Democrats get their way, government bonds (TLT) will weaken due to the increasing inflation pressure and the higher risk for a giant debt default in the future. Stocks would be more desirable to own because US exporters would have a weaker dollar to work with right away. Employment will be much, much better under the Democrats’ plan, so real estate would likely be less risky versus the Republican plan. In short, the Democrats’ plan should make one more bullish on US exporter stocks and real estate and bearish for government bonds.
My guess is the debt ceiling will be raised, but much, much less than the Democrats wished it would. This will probably result in a recession.
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Stocks would be more desirable to own because US exporters would have a weaker dollar to work with right away. Employment will be much, much better under the Democrats’ plan
This guy thinks the exporters still manufacture in USA. What a moron?
We have been nothing but devaluing dollar last 10 yrs. Exports have nothing but fallen, so have the jobs. Not sure why it would be different this time?
More jackass-like braying about “reducing regulation on new/startup/small business”.
They just don’t get it.
A bunch of local small businesses have gone under. NONE of them says they went under because of “excess regulation”.
They are failing because of A LACK OF CUSTOMERS.
Nobody is going to start a new business of any kind, if there is no demand for the product, or no customers with disposable income to actually pay for the product.
My giving everyone a $3000 principle reduction on their credit card debt is looking better by the day. If they are going to throw 300 billion down a rat whole why not just once try a bottoms up stimulus package?
Got a lot of laughs with your grizzly bear pepper spray and bells bit. When asked where I heard it I replied.. some guy that fixes jets. Where`d you meet him? I didn’t.
Democrats in ‘volcanic’ mood
By James Politi in Washington - FT
Barbara Mikulski, Democratic senator from Maryland, best captured the turn of events in the critical US debt talks.
After emerging from a lunch meeting on Thursday with members of her party and Jack Lew, the White House budget director, Ms Mikulski said her colleagues were feeling “volcanic” about the prospect of a $3,000bn deal to cut deficits and raise the debt ceiling that did not include any higher taxes, adding that it was “like Mount Vesuvius” in the room.
Harry Reid, the US Senate majority leader, added: “This can’t be all cuts, there has to be a balance.”
Facing a possible revolt from within Democratic ranks, White House officials immediately dismissed the notion that the president would strike any agreement with Republicans to implement significant spending cuts – including reform of treasured government programmes such as Medicare and Social Security – without garnering any new revenue in return. They also invited Democratic leaders back to the White House for a second straight day of talks in an effort to shore up their support in the negotiations.
Democrats are still expected to back whatever deal President Barack Obama strikes with congressional Republicans, but Thursday’s discontent highlighted the delicate balancing act facing White House officials as they go back-and-forth between the parties in search of a compromise.
Seems like the raising the debt limit debate has come down to this. Demotards want the raise large enough that they don’t have to discuss it again before the election. Reptards, on the other hand, want a small raise so that they get to discuss it one more time before the election.
Turd sandwich and Crap Sandwich, they all stink to the core.
“Reptards, on the other hand, want a small raise so that they get to discuss it one more time before the election.”
They also must hope the crisis of confidence they have created through intransigent negotiating tactics coupled with whatever near-term cutbacks in federal spending they manage to achieve will be sufficient to tip the economy back into recession in time for the 2012 election, and that the electorate will blame Obama rather than the GOP.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Next election will be about throw the bums out ala 2010 on a grander scale. The economy will not recover enough to matter anyway even if demtards get their wish.
The demtards plan seems to me like let’s follow the same strategy that got us here. Borrow massively and create few temporary jobs here and there just for the election and hopefully people will vote them. I mean it’s not like they have any other plans.
I favor the 3rd plan. Let’s default now. Let’s salvage what we can. If it’s good for Iceland and Greece to default, why not us?
We have to go thru massive pain either now or few years down the road. Let’s do it now. Let’s clean the house now. Let’s bankrupt some wallstreet banks now. Who’s with me?
Lower taxes don’t lead to lower prices because corporate America is just out to screw everyone.
Airlines are taking savings from expired taxes
Most US airlines are taking savings from expired taxes, leaving customers with no tax holiday
David Koenig, AP Airlines Writer, On Saturday July 23, 2011, 10:30 pm EDT
DALLAS (AP) — Airlines are tossing consumers aside and grabbing the benefit of lower federal taxes on travel tickets.
By Saturday night, nearly all the major U.S. airlines had raised fares to offset taxes that expired the night before.
That means instead of passing along the savings, the airlines are pocketing the money while customers pay the same amount as before.
American, United, Continental, Delta, US Airways, Southwest, AirTran and JetBlue all raised fares, although details sometimes differed. Most of the increases were around 7.5 percent.
This struck me at the right time. I hit gold status on US Airways on my next flight back home to Phoenix. So on all my remaining scheduled flights this calendar year between Tampa and Phoenix, I am using my awards. 600,000 miles of them. I just booked a round trip ticket and I paid only a $7.50 redemption fee.
I’m trying to beat US Airways to the punch before they raise the miles for awards. I fear they will do that this year.
Crusiing the Rideau Canal in Ontario again this summer. I’ve been told by two people this week that Canada’s property prices are going down. Sure, it’s only two people, but I never heard a Canadian say this before. Very few for-sale signs on the waterway this year.
Who could have seen this coming…The real-a-tor is fine though.
Once-thriving businesses near Avondale Shipyard are now struggling to survive The Times-Picayune RUSTY COSTANZA 7-24-2011
Darcy Adams can’t believe she used to make enough in tips to go shoe-shopping. She misses those days now.
With more bills and past-due notices arriving every day, Adams, 49, looks stressed as she lights another cigarette and surveys the bar. It’s happy hour, but with just four men in the place, two poking at billiard balls in the corner and two nursing beers at the bar, the dozens of empty bar stools underscore just how dead it really is.
“I can’t sleep at night. I can’t pay my bills. I’m stressing so bad,” said Adams, of Waggaman. “This place used to be packed. Now, I’m lucky if I get 10 customers.”
As the bartender at O’Reilly’s in Bridge City for the past 10 years, Adams is among the hundreds of people in the Avondale Shipyard area who have seen their business plummet in the past year. Since Northrop Grumman announced last July it would close the shipyard by 2013, the yard’s 5,000 workers have been laid off or left to await their fate. The fallout, for the local businesses that rely on their patronage, has been devastating.
“Come 2013, I’ll be 55, unemployed, and unemployable,” said Rob Laborde, 53, who has worked at the shipyard for the past 22 years. “You gotta keep all your money now. You gotta count every dime you got.”
The layoffs have come in waves, with anywhere from 40 to 200 workers being handed pink slips every month or so. With that kind of uncertainty, the shipyard workers have been saving their paychecks.
“They used to buy rounds and rounds of drinks in here. Now they grab one or two beers, always the cheapest ones,” said Adams, adding that the Budweiser and Miller beer truck drivers have commented on the community’s dwindling beer orders during the past few months.
Thursdays — paydays at the shipyard — meant Adams would leave with more than $100 in tips. But in the past few months, her tips have taken a hit. Last Thursday she left with $14.
That kind of drastic drop in sales already has led some once-prosperous businesses to close.
Ray Barrios first opened his restaurant, B&R Restaurant, across the road from the shipyard in 1968. As the only business around at the time, he was very successful. Over the years, he lost some of his income to new businesses that moved in down the street. But it’s the past year’s layoffs that really crushed his restaurant. In December, he had to close.
Now Barrios spends his days in his pickup truck outside the shuttered building, selling parking spaces to the shipyard workers.
“Another 41 were laid off today,” Barrios said a little more than a week ago, while counting money in his truck. “It affects everybody, no doubt about it. What’s gonna happen? Northrup Gumman’s not saying nothing to nobody. Everybody’s wondering, nobody knows.”
At one time Barrios could say he was the first of many businesses to open near the shipyard. Now, he can include that his business was also the first of many to close.
“Pretty soon, all that’s going to be gone,” he said, gesturing toward a few convenience stores, bars and restaurants down the road.
Since he closed, Barrios has been having trouble selling his property, and he’s not alone. With homes being seized by lenders almost every week and the shipyard’s looming demise, property values have plummeted, according to local real estate brokers. One homeowner had to lower his home’s price from $80,000 to $60,000 in the past two years.
“My business won’t die because of Avondale closing because I’ll just move around,” said Shelly Vallee, a broker who works in the area for All Around Realty LLC. “But the Avondale area, it’s not gonna be pretty. The only people buying right now are investors. It’s gonna be a total rental town.”
WSJ’s Nick Timiraos reports the Obama administration is weighing the possibility of getting into the housing rental business by renting foreclosed homes. AP Photo/David Zalubowski
The journalists seemed to miss the important point that by siphoning off potential future home purchase demand, Uncle Sam the landlord will drive another stake through the heart of home prices.
But I guess they can still prop up prices, whether or not there are any buyers over the next few years…
NEW YORK - Global markets were poised on a knife’s edge Sunday as Washington remained locked in partisan battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling, with no final deal in sight.
High level administration officials wanted a deal to raise the $14.3 trillion borrowing limit in place by Sunday afternoon before markets opened for the trading day in Asia. But as the day ground on with politicians exchanging fire on the Sunday talk shows, the prospects of such a deal seemed grim.
In the interim, Obama administration officials have begun exploring what would happen without a deal in place — opening discussions with Wall Street banks regarding what would happen to upcoming Treasury auctions if the debt ceiling is not raised, people familiar with the matter said.
And the Federal Reserve has been in discussions regarding what it will do if there is not enough money in the federal government’s accounts on Aug. 3 to send out $20 billion in Social Security checks and other payments.
Initial market reaction will begin to show up around 5 p.m. on the East Coast as currencies start trading in Asia, followed by futures contracts that predict how markets will open in Europe and the United States. A clear picture of market reaction will emerge by late Sunday evening on the East Coast.
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WASHINGTON—Congressional leaders didn’t have a deal to cut the budget deficit and raise the government’s debt limit early Sunday and remained at an impasse over how to reach one just hours before the open of Asian financial markets.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said a “two-stage” proposal being pushed by House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) that would lift the federal debt ceiling through the end of the year and then again after another deficit debate was a nonstarter because it wouldn’t win enough Democratic votes to pass Congress. He said leaders needed to find a way to reach the framework of an agreement that would give the markets confidence by Sunday night.
“They need to get this process moving in the House Monday night. To achieve that deadline they need to have a framework that they know with complete confidence that will pass both houses of Congress, that is acceptable to the president and that should happen today,” Mr. Geithner said in an interview on ABC’s “This Week.”
“The eyes of the world are on us,” Mr. Geithner said.
Mr. Boehner, however, said in an interview on Fox News Sunday that if he can’t reach an agreement with House Democrats on a deal, then Republicans will go it alone. “I’m trying to find a common ground that’s doable in the time we have remaining,” Mr. Boehner said.
Adding another twist to a debate going down to the wire, Messrs. Boehner and Geithner signaled that back on the table was a potentially more far-reaching deal—the one the speaker had been negotiating with President Barack Obama and that collapsed Friday night.
“It may be pretty hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but my last offer is still out there,” Mr. Boehner said. Mr. Boehner said he had agreed to $800 billion in additional revenue through changes in the tax code as part of the more ambitious $3.5 trillion plan. “Last Sunday, I thought there was an agreement of $800 billion in new revenue coming from a flatter, fairer tax system,” he said.
Mr. Geithner said the White House never agreed to $800 billion. Mr. Obama wanted $400 billion more. In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Mr. Geithner said Mr. Obama’s preference was still the so-called grand bargain he had been trying to strike with Mr. Boehner, and that talks continued.
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July 24 (Bloomberg) — Republicans prepared to force action on a shorter-term extension of the U.S. debt limit than President Barack Obama has requested, defying a veto threat amid warnings that continued stalemate risks roiling financial markets as soon as tonight.
The president would veto a measure to raise the debt ceiling if it doesn’t extend the limit into 2013, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Daley warned that “markets around the world” would react negatively to a short-term measure offering less than $2.4 trillion in borrowing authority.
“We’ve got to get past this debt-ceiling vote,” Daley said. “It’s time to get some certainty.”
House Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said while he’d prefer a compromise package, his party was “prepared to move on our own” if that proved impossible. He aims to announce a framework — bipartisan or not — later today to try to minimize uncertainty before Asian markets open, he said on Fox News.
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It’s a 4-4 tie between “yesses” and “nos” among San Diego economics experts on whether the GOP’s “cut, cap and balance” budget and debt plan would be good for the economy.
Tying down the federal government with a balanced budget requirement during a period of severe labor market weakness sounds to me like a terrible idea, but I suppose as long as the GOP leaders can shift blame for the bad job market to Obama over the next 16 months, it is no skin off their backs.
Is the House Republicans’ “cut, cap and balance” budget and debt plan a good economic approach to the federal government’s fiscal problems?
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Alan Gin, University of San Diego
No
The deficit is a long-term concern, but the more immediate concern is the weakening economic recovery. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke warned about “sharp cuts in the very near term because of the potential impact on the recovery.” The cap on expenditures to 18 percent of GDP will ultimately require either severe cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and national defense or else the gutting of virtually everything else in the federal budget. The 2/3 majority requirement to increase taxes in this measure effectively eliminates that as an option to close the deficit at a time when federal revenue as a percent of GDP is at the lowest level since 1950.
James Hamilton, UC San Diego
No
The last thing we want to do in the current situation is drastically reduce government spending. That would mean less income for those currently working for or contracting with the public sector. I agree that several years down the road we will need to make those adjustments, but the time to do that is when there are private-sector jobs available to take up the slack from reduced public spending. I also think that right now, with all the uncertainty about the European sovereign debt situation, is a terrible time to be playing political games with the debt ceiling and the possibility of a U.S. default. The situation could turn very ugly very quickly.
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———————————————————————————- San Diego Union-Tribune reader poll results*:
Thanks for your vote.
Yes 30%
No 69%
*Note that San Diego is generally viewed as a GOP stronghold.
Racing an afternoon deadline, House Speaker John A. Boehner said Sunday morning he was still working to put together a debt deal that could win bipartisan support, but said if that’s impossible he’ll introduce a short-term debt increase and spending cuts to get the government over its Aug. 2 hurdle.
Fanning out across the Sunday political talk shows, Mr. Boehner and other Washington leaders continued to stake out positions that seem at odds with each other: The White House insisted any plan raise the debt limit beyond the 2012 election and include tax increases, while the GOP said the focus should be on spending cuts.
“I would prefer to have a bipartisan approach to solve this problem. If that is not possible, I and my Republican colleagues in the House are prepared to move on our own,” Mr. Boehner, Ohio Republican, told “Fox News Sunday.”
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Republicans said they’re likely to produce an increase that would last through the end of the year, pass it through the House and then challenge Senate Democrats to reject it or Mr. Obama to veto it.
Republicans said they doubted the president would follow through on his veto threat.
“I think that’s a ridiculous position, because that’s what he’s going to get presented with,” Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, told “Meet the Press.” “That’s the compromise way through that’s going to build the compromise.”
Republicans also repeatedly pointed to the plan the House has passed to tie a debt ceiling increase to deep spending cuts and a promise that a balanced budget amendment be proposed for the Constitution.
1) Offer the President a deal which he said outright he could not accept.
2) Blame the President when he doesn’t accept it.
3) Hope the U.S. electorate is not sufficiently astute to grasp the cynical and destructive nature of the Republican strategy, and instead blames the failed outcome on the President.
WASHINGTON (AP) - With the clock ticking ever louder, Obama administration officials and congressional Republicans clashed anew Sunday over extending the nation’s debt limit, with the White House threatening a veto if the government’s borrowing authority is not extended through the next elections.
Even so, with an eye toward nervous financial markets, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the two sides seem to be making progress in their long-running debt battle and predicted they will avert a historic federal default.
“It’s unthinkable that this country will not meet its obligations on time. It’s just unthinkable. We never do that. It’s not going to happen,” Geithner said.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, flatly rejected President Barack Obama’s insistence on a package that would extend the government’s authority to borrow money beyond the November 2012 presidential and congressional elections. Democratic congressional leaders have also said the extension must last through next year.
“I know the president’s worried about the next elections,” Boehner said. “But my God, shouldn’t we be worried about the country?”
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U.S. economic policy is debasing the dollar, says Axel Merk, manager of the Merk Hard Currency Fund. He tells investors to avoid the greenback and focus instead on countries with strong currencies, such as Sweden and Canada.
Vince Cable, the business secretary, has attacked ‘right-wing nutters’ in the US Congress for rejecting a debt deal, saying they pose a bigger threat to the world economy than the eurozone crisis.
Mr Cable’s comments (pictured) came as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner insisted on Sunday that America would not default on its debts. Photo: REX FEATURES
5:22PM BST 24 Jul 2011
The comments by Mr Cable, who is one of the most outspoken members of Britain’s coalition government, came as President Barack Obama vied with Republican lawmakers for a deal to avert an unprecedented debt default.
“The irony of the situation at the moment, with markets opening tomorrow morning, is that the biggest threat to the world financial system comes from a few right-wing nutters in the American Congress rather than the eurozone,” Cable told the BBC’s Andrew Marr on Sunday.
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Is that what the politicians supposed to do? Do whatver market wants. Who cares about the corrupt and manipulated markets anyway? All our politicians been pleasing the markets so these years. What did that get us? Time for a change now!
So the market dives for a few days and that puts a fire under the negotionations and then it rockets back up and makes up the difference. Yawn. I’ve seen this movie enough times w/Greece to know how it ends.
The White House clashed again on Sunday with congressional Republicans over a plan to raise the federal debt ceiling, even as both sides acknowledged that failure to agree could rock global financial markets this week.
“We may have a few stressful days coming up - stressful for the markets of the world and the American people,’’ Bill Daley, White House chief of staff, told CBS on Sunday.
Both the Republican congressional leadership and the White House said that rapid agreement is needed to prevent a potential loss of confidence in US assets, but continued to push their own solutions.
John Boehner, speaker of the House of Representatives, reiterated his support for a two-stage deal, with an initial stopgap agreement to reassure investors and more fundamental reform left until later.
‘’There is going to be a two-stage process. It is not physically possible to do all of this in one step,” he told Fox News. He would seek to gain cross-party support for the proposal but was prepared to drive it forward over Democratic opposition if required, he said.
But Barack Obama’s administration, which has repeatedly said that the president would veto a partial deal, said that a temporary fix risked a loss of confidence and a downgrade in the US’s credit rating.
Mr Daley accused the Republicans of taking risks with the US’s international standing.
“It must be extended in a way that gives certainty to the economy through [2013] and not some short-term gimmick where we’re right back in this fix in six or eight months and the world looks at us once again and says . . . these people can’t get their act together,’’ he told NBC.
The debt ceiling, which constrains US federal borrowing, must be raised by August 2 to avoid the risk that the US will default on its government debt.
Both sides continued their attempts to shift the blame on to the other on Sunday.
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It is very important to keep this crisis in proper perspective: Namely, that it was manufactured and executed by the Republicans in a cynical attempt to send the U.S. economy back into a recession just before the 2012 presidential election.
TIMELINE-How U.S. debt talks spiraled into crisis
July 24 | Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:21pm EDT
(Reuters) - With financial markets on edge, White House officials and Republican leaders scrambled to reassure them that the United States will avert default and lift its $14.3 trillion borrowing limit before Aug. 2.
Following is a timeline of the U.S. debt debate:
Nov. 2, 2010 - Republicans win control of the House of Representatives on a promise to scale back government spending and tackle budget deficits that have hovered at their highest levels relative to the economy since World War Two.
Dec. 1, 2010 - A report by a bipartisan deficit reduction panel commissioned by Obama advocates $3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in revenue increases — mainly by closing loopholes in the tax code — over 10 years.
January 2011 - Six Republican and Democratic senators, known as the “Gang of Six,” begin talks on a long-term deficit-reduction deal they can present to their parties.
Feb. 19 - The House passes a budget for the current fiscal year that would cut $61 billion from last year’s levels. The Democratic-controlled Senate defeats it one month later.
April 9 - Obama and congressional leaders bring the government to the brink of a shutdown before they agree on a budget for the current fiscal year that cuts $38 billion from last year’s levels. Billed as the largest domestic spending cut in U.S. history, it actually causes the government to spend $3.2 billion more in the short term.
April 13 - After Obama’s initial proposal is criticized as inadequate, the president lays out a new deficit-reduction plan that would save $4 trillion over 12 years. He proposes that Vice President Joe Biden lead deficit-reduction talks.
April 15 - The House passes a budget that would cut spending by $6 trillion over 10 years, in part by scaling back medical care for the elderly and the poor.
May 5 - Biden and negotiators from both parties hold their first meeting as top Republicans say there will likely be no broad agreement on tax reform and healthcare.
May 9 - House Speaker John Boehner, the top Republican in Congress, says any increase in the debt ceiling must be matched by an equal amount of spending cuts. The Treasury Department estimates it needs at least $2 trillion to cover borrowing through the November 2012 elections.
May 11 - House Republicans release a spending outline for the coming fiscal year that has deep cuts in education, labor and health programs cherished by Democrats.
May 16 - The United States reaches its $14.3 trillion debt limit. The Treasury Department begins tapping other sources of money to cover the government’s bills.
May 17 - The “Gang of Six” talks falter as a leading conservative, Republican Senator Tom Coburn, drops out due to an impasse over healthcare.
May 31 - The House of Representatives rejects a measure to raise the debt limit in a vote staged by Republicans to pressure Obama to agree to accompanying spending cuts. Senior Democrats decry the vote as a political stunt, although 82 Democratic lawmakers join Republicans in defeating the bill.
June 9 - In a sixth meeting of the Biden group, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner argues that tax increases need to be part of the equation, but Republicans remain unmoved.
June 14 - Some 34 Senate Republicans vote to repeal tax breaks for ethanol, a sign that there may be some wiggle room in the party’s no-tax-increase stance.
June 23 - Republicans declare an impasse in the Biden talks, saying Democrats are insisting on roughly $400 billion in new revenue by closing tax breaks for the wealthy and certain business sectors.
June 29 - The International Monetary Fund says the United States must lift its debt limit soon to avoid a “severe shock” to global markets and a still-fragile economic recovery. Obama calls for new steps to spur job growth and tax hikes on the rich, irking Republicans who remain focused on deficit cuts.
June 30 - Democratic legislators discuss a scaled-back deal that would avert default but force Congress to tackle the debt ceiling issue again before the 2012 elections. The White House rejects the idea.
July 3 - Obama and Boehner meet secretly to discuss “grand bargain” that would save roughly $4 trillion over 10 years through a tax code overhaul and trims to benefit programs.
July 5 - Obama invites top lawmakers to the White House to restart negotiations and clinch a deal by July 22.
July 7 - After hosting lawmakers at White House, Obama says Republicans and Democrats are still far apart on many issues but that all agree on the need to raise the debt ceiling.
July 8 - A dismal jobs report focuses new attention on the sputtering economy. Obama says uncertainty about the debt ceiling talks is hurting economic expansion.
July 9 - Boehner says grand bargain is out of reach because Republicans will not accept the tax increases Democrats are demanding. He calls for a more modest $2 trillion package that would rely mostly on spending cuts.
July 10 - During a testy, brief meeting at the White House, Obama and congressional leaders agree on little more than the need to meet again the following day.
July 11 - Their follow-up meeting breaks little new ground, but Obama pressures both Democrats and Republicans to make concessions that would clear the way for a deal.
July 12 - Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell offers backup plan for raising the debt limit if there is no agreement on a broad deficit-reduction plan. Obama warns if the impasse is not resolved soon, government benefits for older Americans might be at risk after Aug. 2.
July 13 - Moody’s Investors Service puts United States on review for possible downgrade. Obama meets lawmakers for nearly two hours but a deal remains elusive.
July 14 - Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s says there is a one-in-two chance it could cut the U.S. credit rating if talks remain stalemated. Obama suspends talks and gives party leaders 24-36 hours to deliver a deadlock-breaking “plan of action.”
July 17 - McConnell and Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid work on a fallback plan to allow Obama to raise the debt limit. Obama meets Boehner and his deputy, Eric Cantor, secretly at White House but no progress is made toward a deal.
July 18 - Republicans push for a measure that would cut and cap government spending and require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution requiring a balanced budget. Obama says he will veto it should Congress send it to his desk.
July 19 - The “Gang of Six” resurfaces with a deficit reduction plan that proposes $3.75 trillion in savings over 10 years and contains $1.2 trillion in new revenues. Obama seizes on it and calls on Congress leaders to start “talking turkey.”
July 20 - The White House signals Obama may accept a very short-term debt limit extension beyond Aug. 2 to give a deficit cutting bill time to clear Congress. Obama meets separately with top Democratic and Republican lawmakers.
July 21 - Obama and Boehner are reported to be discussing a $3 trillion deficit-cutting deal that upsets many Democrats for not including enough tax rises to offset spending cuts. Obama repeats some revenues will need to be part of any accord.
July 22 - Boehner breaks off talks with Obama over impasse on revenue increases. Boehner says agreed to $800 billion in increases but that Obama was seeking $400 billion more.
July 23 - After a brief meeting with Obama, Democratic and Republican leaders disagree over whether the debt limit can be lifted in one step or two. Obama wants to extend the borrowing authority through the 2012 election year.
July 24 - With financial markets growing edgy, Boehner says raising the debt ceiling and enacting fiscal reforms should be done in two stages. Geithner says it must be raised to last 18 months to keep 2012 campaigning from further threatening the U.S. credit rating. (Reporting by Laura MacInnis, Andy Sullivan and Caren Bohan; Editing by Christopher Wilson and Paul Simao)
I fully expect the Plunge Protection Team to intervene as necessary to stabilize the market, in the unfortunate event no debt ceiling agreement is reached today. And I note that the DJIA is up by 26% over last summer’s low point (10K), which gives lots of breathing room for a near-term setback.
(Reuters) - Much of the United States may be frying in near-record temperatures but Wall Street has been feeling the heat for months. Wrangling over the debt ceiling has kept markets on edge, and investors are still waiting for a breakthrough that leads to a deal to avoid a devastating default.
Investors have viewed as extremely unlikely the possibility of a U.S. default if the federal government does not agree to raise the debt ceiling. But the odds are growing, and Congress and the White House remained at odds just a few hours before Asian markets opened on Monday.
“Unless during the course of the day there is a specific, concrete proposal that placates the market before Asian markets open, the worst-case scenario is that the markets just sell off — sell off dramatically,” said Quincy Krosby, market strategist at Prudential Financial in Newark, New Jersey.
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Given all of the work that’s been piled on employees at leanly staffed companies during the weak economy, it’s understandable that some workers want to scale back.
Almost four in 10 workers said one of the most important attributes they will look for in a new employer is a less-stressful work environment, besides competitive pay and benefits, according to a survey of more than 5,000 workers and 2,000 employers conducted in February and March by jobs website CareerBuilder.com.
But with unemployment still high, employees may be wary about talking to their boss about working less.
“The recession resulted in smaller staffs, heavier workloads and longer hours. While companies have become accustomed to doing more with less, workers may be feeling stretched too thin,” said Jennifer Grasz, a spokeswoman for CareerBuilder.com. “As the economy improves, workers are growing more confident in their job prospects and are seeking out opportunities with more manageable workloads and better work-life balance.”
Burned out
To some extent, employers know there’s an issue. In December, CareerBuilder.com asked more than 2,000 employers if productivity levels could last this year, and 16% said: “No, workers are already burned out.”
Meanwhile, most employees have been willing to be somewhat flexible because they are trying to accommodate their employer’s hopefully temporary financial problems, said Ford Myers, a career coach in Haverford, Pa.
With unemployment still high, some are afraid of losing their jobs. “There’s this dynamic of fear that someone will take my job if I don’t do it,” said Andrea Kay, a Cincinnati-based career consultant. “They know it’s not good that they are burned out, but they just don’t know what else to do.”
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Asian markets? They are on their own. A Republican source tells ABC News negotiators do not expect to have a deal or even the framework of a deal on the debt ceiling by 4 p.m. today, as House Speaker John Boehner had said he wanted to steady jittery Asian markets when they open.
In fact, the source says a deal today is now looking unlikely.
The principals are speaking over the phone while the staffs work on the numbers. Congressional Democrats and Republicans continue to try to hash out a compromise, but they are not there yet.
Separately, the source says that the big “grand bargain” now looks, once again, to be “pretty dead” — not buried yet, but not really breathing either. Despite the positive comments by Boehner and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner this morning, the large deficit reduction plan seems to be too much, too late to accomplish by the Aug. 2 deadline.
“A deal is still elusive,” said one top House Republican.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner reiterated Sunday that if Congress does not raise the U.S. debt ceiling up to 80 million federal payments and checks this month — including Social Security payments — will be jeopardized.
“Only Congress has the ability to make sure the American people get their payments on time,” Geithner said on “Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.”
“We write 80 million checks a month,” Geithner said, Fox News reported Sunday. “There are millions and millions of Americans that depend on those checks coming on time. Not just people that supply our military, but people who get Social Security benefits, Medicare, Medicaid benefits. And we cannot put those payments at risk, and we do not have the ability to limit the damage on them, if Congress fails to act in time.”
As of Sunday at 4 p.m. EDT, Congressional Republicans and the Obama administration still had not reached an agreement on how much to cut the budget deficit by, while increasing the nation’s debt ceiling.
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So is tomorrow the new unofficial deadline on debt ceiling negotiations? I thought a deal had to be in place by today in order for Asian markets to not implode?
Talks resume at the White House, where Obama and congressional leaders work on a Republican-backed plan to cut spending by $3 trillion in exchange for a vote on raising the debt ceiling.
By Kathleen Hennessey, Washington Bureau
July 24, 2011
Reporting from Washington—
Picking up the pieces after the latest round of debt negotiations imploded, congressional leaders met Saturday with President Obama and began work on a Republican-backed plan to cut spending by roughly $3 trillion over 10 years in exchange for their vote to raise the debt ceiling, according to a leadership aide familiar with the deal.
Although the proposal still faced stiff hurdles with Democrats, House Speaker John A. Boehner — who abruptly broke off talks with the White House on Friday but was present Saturday — told GOP leaders in a conference call that he hoped to report significant progress, if not a deal, within 24 hours, according to a participant.
But as talks continued into the evening, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he was “deeply disappointed in the status of the negotiations” with Republicans. At issue is whether Republicans will agree to raise the debt ceiling through the end of 2012, as Obama has demanded.
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In a bizarre interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, House Speaker John Boehner appeared embattled, distracted and without a firm grip on any solution to the debt ceiling crisis. He seemed to be unable to speak about the debt ceiling crisis in any truthful manner, repeatedly attacking Pres. Obama for not being willing to make a deal, despite Obama offering far more than any president, Democratic or Republican, in debt and deficit reduction, in fact offering far more than Boehner himself was seeking.
Boehner seemed to be bound by certain hostile factions within his caucus, and insisted that he would not accept any plan that was not some variation of “cut, cap and balance.” He appeared frustrated, even shaken, by the failure the House Republican plan—crafted with no consultation with Democratic members of either chamber—failed to pass the Senate.
Wallace reminded him: “The Senate resoundingly tabled the idea of a balanced budget amendment; you’re not going to insist on that again, are you?” Boehner repeated, almost robotically, that he would insist, come what may, on a “framework” based on “cut, cap and balance”, Boehner refused to answer whether he would attempt to force a balanced budget amendment—which, incidentally, could not be made law by August 2 and would, in and of itself, do literally nothing to reduce debt or deficits—as part of a bipartisan framework.
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Without the Bush tax cuts for the rich, America’s debt ceiling problems would be solved
The debate over whether to throw the US into default by not raising the debt ceiling is not about what is best for the country. Tea Party Republicans have created the potential financial crisis to advance a radical social agenda that ignores the will of the people. The end result is the destruction of democracy.
Since taking control of the House of Representatives and dozens of governorships, Tea Party Republicans have used their new found power to strip union rights, voter’s rights, repeal child labor laws, abortion rights, roll back of environmental, worker safety, banking regulations, and programs for the poor.
In exchange for budget cuts that benefit millions of Americans, the Tea Party Republicans want to make the country’s problems worse by giving any and all budget savings to about 400,000, who represent the top 2% of the wealthiest Americans.
The debt ceiling has been raised 91 times since 1960, under both democratic and republican presidents.
So why is the Tea Party so determined to take the country backward under terrorists-type threats to destroy the economy?
Republican Senate Minority Leader said it best. “We’ve tried elections. Nothing has worked.”
In other words, if America will not do things the way the radical right wants, the GOP will use their power to force their social agenda on the public through any means necessary - even if it means ruining the lives of millions of people.
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Some of the Republicans think that a default will be no big deal.
Another bunch knows that it will be a big deal, but think the “pain” (inflicted mainly upon people who aren’t voting for Republicans) will be “worth it”.
(”Worth it” meaning, among other things, making Obama a one-term president.)
Another bunch believes that a Greater Depression is what the country “deserves”.
Finally, a small group of Republicans think it will be a disaster for the Republicans, and the country. They are outnumbered by Groups 1, 2, and 3.
For whatever reason, Republicans think that Obama is the AntiChrist (some actually believe this literally), and are willing to throw a bunch of US citizens under the bus to assure that outcome.
My recommendation: Obama resigns, if a default occurs.
The Republican plan for 2012 depends on him being in office. If the economy swirls down the toilet, at least there won’t be any doubt as to who is to blame.
“Barbaric relic” (gold) hitting all-time highs. No surprise, given the tsunami of unbacked fiat currency being printed by the Fed and Central banks, plus our profligate spending that has long since outstripped our shrinking tax base.
Anti-austerity anger building up in the PIIGS. Demonstrators are castigating politicians as uncaring, inept, and corrupt. Which the people of Spain should’ve thought about when they voted them into office.
A top US official predicted on Sunday that the world’s leading economy would not default on its massive debt, as lawmakers grappled for a deal just hours before Asian markets were set to open.
The United States will not default on its debt, US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (pictured) said, as the clock ticks down to reaching a deal by August 2 to raise the nation’s debt ceiling.
“It’s unthinkable we would not meet our obligations on time,” Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told CNN, with the eyes of the world on the bitter political in-fighting which has paralyzed Washington’s corridors of power.
“It’s not going to happen,” Geithner predicted, amid a warning from US ally Britain that “right-wing nutters” were posing a bigger threat to the world economy than the eurozone crisis.
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SYDNEY(MarketWatch) — Gold futures hit a fresh record in electronic trading Monday, as U.S. debt-ceiling talks to avert a default continued, with no apparent progress toward a deal.
Gold for August delivery GC1Q +0.61% gained $16.30, or 1.0% to $1,617.70 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange during Asian trading hours.
Last week gold reached a nominal record of $1,602.50 an ounce.
Adjusted for inflation, gold would have to settle at around $2,400 an ounce to supplant a record around $850 an ounce reached in January 1980.
The metal has benefited from the uncertainty stemming from global debt problems in recent weeks, with the deadlock in U.S.negotiations taking center stage on Monday.
U.S. lawmakers failed to reach agreement on an approach to raise the debt-ceiling in Washington on Sunday, despite a weekend of talks. President Barack Obama later met with the congressional leaders of his own party.
The $14.3 trillion debt ceiling needs to be raised by Aug. 2 or the government is at risk of defaulting on its obligations. Read more on U.S. debt negotiations.
Analysts at MF Global said the lack of resolution in U.S. debt-ceiling talks will weigh on the U.S. dollar, and present upward potential for gold.
“Raising the debt ceiling in such last-minute fashion relays [an] unwelcome message to investors,” the analysts said, “The main casualty of such a decision will be the US dollar.”
Commodities should do better, at least initially, they said, as the asset class will be viewed as an alternative to paper currencies.
July 25 (Bloomberg) — Treasuries fell, extending a decline from last week, after Mohamed A. El-Erian at Pacific Investment Management Co. said the U.S. may lose its AAA debt rating even if lawmakers reach a plan to avoid a default.
Benchmark yields approached a two-week high as El-Erian, whose company runs the world’s biggest bond fund, said a compromise on raising the borrowing limit this close to the Aug. 2 deadline will leave the rating “extremely vulnerable.” President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner are in a stalemate over how to increase the ceiling, a step needed for the U.S. to keep servicing its debt.
“We don’t know how long it will take to reach an agreement,” said Hiroki Shimazu, an economist in Tokyo at SMBC Nikko Securities Inc., a unit of Japan’s third-largest publicly traded bank by assets. “It will push yields higher.”
The rate on the 10-year note climbed four basis points to 3 percent as of 10:01 a.m. in Tokyo, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader pricing. The 3.125 percent security due in May 2021 declined 11, or $3.44 per $1,000 face amount, to 101 1/32.
The yield increased six basis points last week and climbed to 3.04 percent on July 21, the highest since July 11. It is still below the 10-year average of 4.06 percent.
“In most likelihood, a last-minute political compromise will avoid a default but will leave the AAA rating extremely vulnerable,” El-Erian, the Newport Beach, California-based chief executive officer and co-chief investment officer at Pimco, wrote in an e-mail.
Boehner plans to press ahead with a shorter-term increase in the borrowing ceiling than President Obama has requested, he told lawmakers, defying a veto threat and signaling continued deadlock in the Congress as time runs short for an agreement.
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When I read the newspapers from the 1930s I’d occasionally see hopeful articles about how consumer spending would have to pick up soon, because of all the “pent-up” demand. If people hadn’t been buying cars for a while then presumably their cars would wear out, and this would trigger new demand for replacements. Of course I knew that there actually was no light at the end of the tunnel, which made these articles seem slightly pathetic—as if they were grasping for straws. They overlooked the fact that the depression made America much poorer, and that low consumer demand reflected that poverty. For similar reasons, there isn’t much “pent up demand” for cars in Somalia, despite low sales in recent years.
Sometimes I see this argument applied to the housing slump. Housing construction is down 70%, to levels far lower than at any time in post-war history (relative to population.) And this slump has been going on for a number of years. Surely we’ll soon need to build more houses, to meet our growing population. If only that were true. Unfortunately, as sharply as housing construction has fallen, household formation has fallen even faster.
Jim Glass sent me some very interesting data on household formation, which casts a very different light on the recent housing crash.
By my simple measure recent housing starts peaked with an inventory of 40% of an average year’s worth of starts above the trend line in 2007. That’s a cyclical high but a typical one. About the same or a little higher was reached in three other cycles since 1960.
But the plunge in starts since 2007 is unprecedented — by the end of 2010 cumulative starts were 72% of an average year’s worth of starts below trend. The next-lowest figure was 46% below trend back in 1970. If things were “normal” this would predict a huge boom in housing starts soon.
But housing starts are *following* household formation, which is plunging even faster, like an ICBM heading straight to its target.
In 2007 household formation was 1627k (average 1998-2007: 1499k) and housing starts were 1355k (average 1998-2007: 1716k). In 2010 household formation was all of 357k, down 78% from 2007 and down 76% from the prior ten year average. Housing starts were 587k, down 57% from 2007 and down 66% from the prior ten years. That’s a big fall, but it is still *well behind* the fall in household formation.
If I still had my blog I’d post the graphs — the line for household formation is heading straight down like to the bottom of the sea, it’s three times the fastest-deepest decline of the last 40 years. The line for housing starts looks like it is just striving to not fall too far behind.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that light at the end of the tunnel is an onrushing train called falling household formation. It’s caused by three factors:
1. Less immigration due to the post-2006 crackdown.
2. Less immigration due to the severe recession and high unemployment
3. 20-somethings who can’t get jobs are living with their parents.
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It’s worse than stated above, as the article only considers household formation, not household destruction. But with the near-term retirement and mid-term demise of baby boomer households, household destruction will occur at a higher-than-”normal” rate for the next several decades.
All told, housing demand is toast over the foreseeable future. Good luck to the home builders and the Wall Street hacks who try to convince Rubes to buy their stocks!
IF China or Iran threatened our national credit rating and tried to drive up our interest rates, or if they sought to damage our education system, we would erupt in outrage.
Well, wake up to the national security threat. Only it’s not coming from abroad, but from our own domestic extremists.
We tend to think of national security narrowly as the risk of a military or terrorist attack. But national security is about protecting our people and our national strength — and the blunt truth is that the biggest threat to America’s national security this summer doesn’t come from China, Iran or any other foreign power. It comes from budget machinations, and budget maniacs, at home.
House Republicans start from a legitimate concern about rising long-term debt. Politicians are usually focused only on short-term issues, so it would be commendable to see the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party seriously focused on containing long-term debt. But on this issue, many House Republicans aren’t serious, they’re just obsessive in a destructive way. The upshot is that in their effort to protect the American economy from debt, some of them are willing to drag it over the cliff of default.
It is not exactly true that this would be our first default. We defaulted in 1790. By some definitions, we defaulted on certain gold obligations in 1933. And in 1979, the United States had trouble managing payouts to some individual investors on time (partly because of a failure of word processing equipment) and thus was in technical default.
Yet even that brief lapse in 1979 raised interest payments in the United States. Terry L. Zivney, a finance professor at Ball State University and co-author of a scholarly paper about the episode, says the 1979 default increased American government borrowing costs by 0.6 of a percentage point indefinitely.
Any deliberate and sustained interruption this year could have a greater impact. We would see higher interest rates on mortgages, car loans, business loans and credit cards.
American government borrowing would also become more expensive. In February, the Congressional Budget Office noted that a 1 percentage point rise in interest rates could add more than $1 trillion to borrowing costs over a decade.
In other words, Republican zeal to lower debts could result in increased interest expenses and higher debts. Their mania to save taxpayers could cost taxpayers. That suggests not governance so much as fanaticism.
More broadly, a default would leave America a global laughingstock. Our “soft power,” our promotion of democracy around the world, and our influence would all take a hit. The spectacle of paralysis in the world’s largest economy is already bewildering to many countries. If there is awe for our military prowess and delight in our movies and music, there is scorn for our political/economic management.
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At the start of the year, home builders were cautiously optimistic about their prospects for 2011. Home prices were picking up, prompting some builders to buy additional land and start to plan new communities.
What a difference a few months can make. The spring buying season—typically the strongest season for home sales—ended with a thud. Builders are now backtracking on the land deals and some prices have started to fall again.
With the downturn in its fifth year, some building executives say they thought things would be better by now. After all, families with kids in elementary and middle school when the downturn hit now have teenagers on their hands, causing some entry-level family homes to bust at the seams. While some of those families are buying, many others are choosing to stay cramped up rather than move up.
“There have certainly been some bumps in the road,” said Doug Yearley, chief executive of Toll Bros. Inc., the nation’s largest luxury builder.
Mr. Yearley added that he, “and, I think, every other CEO in this business, are disappointed that we’re just not further along.”
Industry watchers will be paying close attention to a number of indicators and earnings due out this week. On Tuesday, the Census Bureau is scheduled to release sales of new homes for June. Economists generally expect sales to climb to an annual pace of 328,000. That would be up from May’s extremely weak level of 319,000 sales, but far away from 2005 when sales peaked at 1.3 million.
Also out this week are earnings reports from major home builders including PulteGroup Inc., D.R. Horton Inc. and Meritage Homes Corp.
One analyst said not to expect much. “Builders are going to disappoint investors because they’re going to continue to lose money,” said Alex Barron, a founder and analyst with the Housing Research Center, an independent research firm in El Paso, Texas.
Now comes more troubling news: NVR Inc., long considered the industry darling because it managed to earn money during the downturn, reported a weak second quarter on Thursday. Profit slid 46% from a year earlier, dragged down as home closings tumbled 34%.
Particularly concerning is what NVR’s results might say about the Washington, D.C., market. That is NVR’s home market, and it had been one of the nation’s strongest performers. Unlike much of the rest of the nation, house prices in Washington and its suburban Virginia and Maryland neighbors were rising and foreclosures in many communities were relatively low.
But NVR, based in Reston, Va., said orders declined in the mid-Atlantic region, which includes Maryland. According to Raymond James Equity Research, the Washington area’s existing-home sales slumped 19% from a year earlier in June, compared with 8.8% nationwide.
‘Builders are going to disappoint investors because they’re going to continue to lose money,’ says a Housing Research Center analyst.
Industry watchers are now trying to figure out whether NVR’s performance signals further pain ahead for housing, or if Washington-area buyers are simply nervous over the debt-ceiling debate and scared about the possibility of government layoffs.
Part of the problem is that the same head winds persist: Unemployment remains elevated, builders must compete with deeply discounted foreclosed properties for sales and tight bank lending standards are keeping plenty of would-be buyers out of the market.
“The new home-sales market will continue to be depressed” for at least another year, said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist with the Economic Outlook Group.
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Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic, they will shake their fists and mutter one name: George Effin’ Bush.
Ironically, it won’t be for any of the things that liberals have been harping on the Bush Administration, either during or after his term in office. Sure, misguided tax cuts that destroyed the surplus, and lax regulations that doomed the economy, and two amazingly awful wars in deserts half a world away are all terrible, empire-sapping events. But they pale in comparison to what it appears the Republican Party did to get President Bush re-elected in 2004.
“A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio’s 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush,” according to Bob Fitrakis, columnist at http://www.freepress.org and co-counsel in the litigation and investigation.
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Students at Valley College, including Bear Christison, left center, and Julien Lambert, take part in a “die in” in March to protest state budget cuts’ effect on their educational opportunities. (Barbara Davidson, Los Angeles Times / July 23, 2011)
By Sandy Banks
July 23, 2011
It all came down to money this week on my return trip to San Francisco.
And there is good news and bad news in this.
The good news is that my daughter finally found a place to live. It’s a studio apartment, above a tavern, on a grimy stretch of a busy street. But it’s cheap and clean, with a real kitchen and a private bathroom, unlike the other prospects we’d seen.
And it’s a straight shot — one bus — to San Francisco State, where she will be a junior this fall.
That is where the bad news comes in. Her tuition will jump again — by about $600 — this fall. That’s the fourth tuition increase imposed by Cal State University trustees since 2009.
That hikes fees and tuition for classes to more than $6,000 a year, about $2,000 more than we expected when my youngest daughter enrolled as a freshman two years ago.
That’s double trouble for me. Her sister is a senior at Cal State Northridge, so our family is on the hook this year for $4,000 more than I budgeted back when an education in the Cal State system seemed like such a great idea.
That’s the personal toll of a public tragedy. State financing for higher education has been rolled back to levels unseen in years. This year’s budget cuts funding by 20%. That translates to $650 million less, and that has to be covered by somebody.
The poorest kids keep their financial aid; the richest write bigger checks. And the middle-class families get crushed in the crunch, relying on loans to cover the gap.
We can blame the economy, the trustees, the politicians, the citizenry’s lack of collective will.
What we can’t do is keep pretending we don’t see it.
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With the debt limit deadline looming, I thought it would be an interesting exercise to consider what happens to the mortgage market in the event Washington runs out of money.
Before we get into all the scary talk, let me say I think it’s unlikely our elected officials will fail to act before the deadline. But let’s go through the thought exercise anyway.
If you’re applying for a mortgage, the effects of a government shutdown depend on where you are in the process and the type of mortgage you are trying to get. Please understand this is educated speculation. Should a shutdown happen, anything is possible because I expect the politicians will manipulate the situation to their greatest political advantage (I am not a politician, and I don’t want to play one on TV).
If you’re applying for a conventional loan, a shutdown may have little direct impact on you. Most conventional loans are sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and, while they are wards of the state now, they still operate fairly independently. However, if your lender needs to verify your tax returns or social security number, you may be out of luck. I expect the IRS and Social Security Administration will not be considered essential government services.
The biggest hassle may be in store for those applying for FHA loans. I expect the White House will deem the Federal Housing Agency (FHA) a non-essential agency. You probably won’t be able to start or close an FHA loan.
If you’re applying for a Veteran’s Administration (VA) loan, you may be able to proceed as long as your lender has processed your VA paperwork (such as your Certificate of Eligibility) and has received the appraisal on your home. I expect the While House will deem the VA a non-essential agency, and, while many of their systems are online now, I expect they will take the Web sites offline while the agency is shut down. If you’re past this point in the process, you should be OK. A VA loan is a guaranteed loan, and the VA delegates underwriting to approved lenders. Thus, the lender closes the loan with its own funds and probably sells the loan into the mortgage market.
If you’re applying for a US Department of Agriculture Rural Development (USDA RD) loan, you may be OK if the loan has been approved. The USDA must review every RD loan, and this review occurs near the end of the process, after the lender has finished its underwriting of the loan. I expect the While House will deem the USDA a non-essential agency, so you’re stuck if the USDA hasn’t completed its review. If the loan is approved, I expect you’ll be able to close because an RD loan, like a VA loan, is a guaranteed loan.
The biggest hassle may be in store for those applying for FHA loans. I expect the White House will deem the Federal Housing Agency (FHA) a non-essential agency. You probably won’t be able to start or close an FHA loan. The FHA must issue a “case number” to start an FHA loan and, because FHA loans are insured loans, the FHA must issue an insurance certificate at closing. Any loans in process probably will grind to a halt until the shut down is over.
What might happen to interest rates if the government bumps up against the debt limit? I don’t claim to be clairvoyant, so I’ll turn to Michael Barr, a former Assistant Treasury Secretary for guidance. He suggests, based on past experience, the effect would be a short-term, modest increase in interest rates, less than 0.1%. However, he notes that many other factors cloud our current economic picture, and the combination could create unexpected effects.
While a government shut down could be a mess, you have to realize that there’s a really big difference between that and a government default. Despite all the political scare tactics, I think it’s VERY unlikely the government will choose to default on its debt. If the deadline passes without action, the government still will take in a lot of money, but it won’t be enough money to cover all its obligations. The government will have to prioritize its bills. If interest payments on the national debt are considered a priority, the government won’t default.
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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-23 15:47:45
With the current rate of economic decline, one should be able to find cheap housing in just about any city or town in this county when all is said and done.
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Comment by GH
2011-07-23 22:22:53
Unlike other third world countries where the land is wholly owned by rich land barons, all of our land is leveraged to the hilt, so yes, I suspect in 10 years land will be dirt cheap and with few of us left in the economic game most of us will be equally dirt poor.
Of course we could also be ripe for break up as a country, military take over etc. I keep trying to come up with ways we get out of this mess in one piece, but it feels more and more like the day you wake up and REALLY come to terms with the fact you cannot make your bills and your credit is shot.
I mean seriously someone what is the next big thing and are we there?
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Two interesting thoughts from the Oil City thread. I ponder these thoughts myself.
However….. the PTB(FedReserve) wants to make sure everyone is flat out broke before anyone can truly leverage a deflationary environment. All the $$$ at the top and us penniless peons at the bottom. Only at that point will affordable prices of *everything* occur.
“With the current rate of economic decline, one should be able to find cheap housing in just about any city or town in this county when all is said and done.”
Translation: When all is said and done most people will be broke and those few people WHO HAVE THE MONEY will be able to buy houses on the cheap from the many who are desperate for the stuff.
This scenerio will be the result of DEFLATION, not inflation; It will be the result of NOT ENOUGH MONEY changing hands, not too much money changing hands.
The Fed bailed out the lenders who own rights to the collateral which backs loans to home owners who leveraged themselves to the hilt. So it seems as though time is on the side of the lenders, not prospective future home owners.
615am. Off to Sussex County DE beach towns for a week. Ground zero for publicly traded builder speculation in the mid-atlantic.
Yuppers, I recall that from my trip a few years ago. Very bizarre area, although Rehoboth Ave. down to the boardwalk is cool.
I was more more surprised by all of the Overlytannedneck monster trucks I saw, but you’re allowed to drive on the beach there, so it makes sense.
Rhode Island city asks retirees to cut their pensions
- CNN
As cities across the United States struggle to keep their finances afloat, Central Falls, Rhode Island, is taking a novel approach to try to avoid bankruptcy.
The city is asking police and firefighter retirees to give up 50% of their pension.
On Tuesday, a state-appointed receiver, Judge Robert Flanders, met with constituents to discuss options that will prevent the city from filing for bankruptcy, but the choices seemed limited: either volunteer for the pension cut, or risk losing it all.
The city has a $5 million per year structural deficit, said Michael Trainor, a spokesman for Flanders.
“Going forward, it’s now at a point where a city is about to run out of cash,” he added.
Central Falls, a city of 19,000 residents living in roughly a square mile, has historically had difficulty reducing its expenses because of a decline in population and the resulting smaller tax revenues, according to Trainor.
Each of the 141 city retirees will receive a voting ballot and a packet by the end of the week, showing how much of their pensions will be slashed if they agree to volunteer for the benefits cut.
With August set as the deadline for further decisions on the financial future of the city, Flanders hopes to find out residents’ decisions by the end of the month.
Those who were planning to retire soon are now worried about doing so, fearing that they may end up with nothing. Firefighters in the city do not receive Social Security benefits.
“They’re very concerned about what’s happening, they worked 20-25 years of their career, they were anticipating having this benefit that they were promised the day they were hired,” said Michael Andrews, president for local firefighters’ union.
I think that depends on the laws of the city/state, right? If it’s a law, and the firefighters say “no,” then that’s a whole ‘nother story.
Reality trumps laws every time.
Ten percentReality is in the bag!Yet another sign of deflation raising its ugly head.
But stay tuned, there will soon be posters popping in to tell us how the forces of inflation are running wild.
Banksters, shazam!
The rest of us, poof.
Food, energy, health care, college tuition?
I agree that real estate and *wages* are experiencing deflation.
“I agree that real estate and *wages* are experiencing deflation.”
If you agree that wages are experiencing deflation then where is all the money going to come from to support the higher prices for food, energy, health care, and college tuition?
And please do not say “borrowing”. Borrowing was yesterday’s answer to spending issues.
If wages won’t do it and borrowing won’t do it then just what is it that will do it?
You can call it deflation. I’ll call it trickle up economics.
Like you said earlier,
Translation: When all is said and done most people will be broke and those few people WHO HAVE THE MONEY will be able to buy houses on the cheap from the many who are desperate for the stuff.
This is my perception of the short-term here in the US. How global wage arbitrage will play out in the coming decades with regard to inflation/deflation, I can’t answer that.
Prices for the things you described tell one story but the amount of money flowing into these things tell a different story.
Health care is an example: The price for health care is up but the number of people seeking health care is falling off.
Gas prices go up but consumption drops off which means the flow of cash that goes into gas consumption drops off.
Prices can go up even when everyone is flat broke. I saw it first hand in Mexico. As long as the government debases the currency it will happen.
Once interest rates go up and the government balances the budget, then we will get your deflation. As long as ZIRP rules and the Feds run near 2 trillion dollar budget deficits, there will be inflation.
Anyway, just saying that Mexican consumers were not running around with fists full of pesos back then. Yet everytime we went to the supermarket prices were up from last time.
It wasn’t until Mexico went into austerity mode that they tamed the inflation beast. Of course a balanced budget meant that a lot of govern,ent largesse ended. It didn’t happen overnight and “la crisis” lasted for years until things got better. I visited a couple of times during that period and it wasn’t pretty. My mom and siblings only survived because I sent them money every month (and they had a paid for house!).
“Prices can go up even when everyone is flat broke. I saw it first hand in Mexico. As long as the government debases the currency it will happen”.
Yes, and we are experiencing this today. Of course many folks think it is pure market manipulation.
Still having trouble understanding stagflation, combo?
In February 2010, the entire faculty and administrative staff of Central Falls High School was fired after the teachers’ union refused to accept one of the “No Child Left Behind” options for restructuring failing schools.
In accordance with NCLB legislation, schools deemed failing have four options to follow for restructuring. The teachers’ union refused to accept to work 25 minutes of extra time under the “transforming model”, so the superintendent went ahead and chose the “turnaround model”, which requires a district to fire the entire staff (teachers and administrators)
Imagine if this law was forced upon General Motors, Chrysler, Goldman Sachs, Bank America, Wells Fargo…
Are you saying $14 hour is overpayed? Because that’s what the majority of the worker bees are making at all those places you just named. (except GS)
Seriously?
The majority of workers at GM/Chrysler do not make $14/hr.
Yes, they do. And have for several years now.
BTW, this is exactly why I don’t want to pay 3% to the FL general fund to “pay” for my retirement. I’d rather trust myself, thank you.
50% is pretty drastic. Especially when your side of the understanding is already fulfilled and you’ve got no time to make up the difference. I suppose this is where things start to get ugly.
Yes and yes.
Sure it can handle Moro warriors but what about smiling meth heads with hammers? I think we’re gonna need a bigger cartridge….
SHOOTING THE BULL: John Browning’s .45 ACPCartridge
Hostilities between the two cultures quickly erupted into the Philippine-American War, which raged from 1899 to 1902. The second phase of this conflict, known as the Moro Rebellion, waged on till 1913 and markedly demonstrated the inadequacy of American small arms.
Armed with modified sugarcane cutting machetes (bolas), limbs wrapped in leather, and fortified by hallucinogenic potions, the Moro warriors proved nearly unstoppable by the .38 Long Colt and .30-40 Krag-wielding American troops. The search began immediately for a handgun cartridge “with greater stopping power and to be a caliber not less than .45.”
Read more: http://magicvalley.com/lifestyles/recreation/020f88a6-caba-5e82-b48d-79454488d7b7.html#ixzz1T1F004EI
HAPPY VALLEY, Ore. — A bizarre, unprovoked attack outside a Wal-Mart has led to attempted murder charges for a local man.
Police say Jonathan E. Jones, 31, attacked a man with a hammer in the parking lot of a Happy Valley Wal-Mart store. Jones now faces charges of attempted murder, attempted assault and menacing.
The attacker again raised his arm with the weapon, but Anderson was able to block the next intended strike to his head. Anderson suffered a serious wound to his hand, but was able to use that moment to push the attacker away. Anderson said his attacker was smiling the entire time.
“He was absolutely high on something,” Anderson said. “His behavior wasn’t normal, not like a human … it was different.”
Anderson said Jones admitted to investigators he’d been high on meth at the time of the attack.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124690579.html
A kid down here killed his parents with a hammer this week. He was on 3 hits of ecstasy, he then invited about 60 kids over for a party with his parents dead in their bedroom.
I don’t think the ecstasy had anything to with the death of his parents.
“I don’t think the ecstasy had anything to with the death of his parents.”
I have been sober for 23 years and to the best of my knowledge ecstasy wasn’t around then so I have no idea what 1,2 or 3 hits does to a person. Nor do I know what meth does to a person. I can however tell you what pot, acid, quaaludes, alcohol and cocaine did to me. It screwed me and my life up pretty good but never made me want to take a hammer to someone.
Yeah… My sit down with Bill W. occurred before crack, meth and all the designer drugs. It’s a good thing it happened when it did.
RAL:
I dj some aa parties here, a very good friend and a great MC is a member…nicest bunch of people…i really enjoy not having to defend my dj equipment from wackos with a drink in his hand.
Meth heads are sub-human monsters. Seriously deranged people. I absolutely cannot stand those tweakers. They offer nothing to society.
Got into another arguent with my in-laws. Their position is that we can’t raise taxes, can’t cut Social Security, Medicare or DoD, but simply must stop these insane deficits.
Of course, their proposed solution is simply to stop welfare and cut waste.
Argh. When I tried to explain that SS, MC and DoD + interest + pensions + VA are over $2.4T and we only have $2.1T in income… and we haven’t even covered roads, airports, coast guard, courts, jails, etc, etc….
Oh, they get so angry an me when I have actual numbers to apply to their argument that proves it false.
How huch goes to “Welfare”? $250B to Medicare, $50B to disability, $60B to foodstamps, $100B to unemployment, $40B to all forms of public housing and housing subsidies… It all adds up to about 1/3rd the deficit.
I don’t understand why wasteful DoD spending is so damnd sacrosanct to so many people? Are your in-laws aware that we spend $20B a year cooling tents in Afghanistan? Or that it costs almost a million a year to get a pair of boots on the ground there?
Have they forgotten the stories of the $600 hammers? Do they ever bother to ask why we invaded Afghanistan? Do they believe that if we stay there just a little longer that through some miracle that democracy will take hold and flourish?
I don’t know why we just demand foreign countries pay for our costs to defend them? You want 28,000 troops on the DMZ in Korea…well pony up the $$$ to keep them there.
DoD spending is so damnd sacrosanct
We spend a big chunk of our money to defend them.
We do this because (choose one):
a. We are smart and they are not.
b. They are smart and we are not.
c. Both a and b.
Favorite quote of the week: unnamed US Army officer who said success in Afghanistan was when (paraphrased) “….we are able to turn Afghanistan into just another Third World basket case.”
d. Someone’s making a killing off of the war.
Haliburton
“d. Someone’s making a killing off of the war.”
George Bush and Dick Cheney, for sure. They should both face execution for war profiteering at the expense of this country and our soldiers lives.
Armageddon, duh. We do all the stupid spending $hit because we fear Armageddon. The ultimate boogeyman. Maximum manipulator of the masses.
It would be amusing to close at least some foreign bases. I’m guessing that many serve as the biggest economic driver in their respective areas and trying to close them would cause the local business owners that benefit the most to get on their politicians to try and prevent the closures. It would be almost like a sports team threatening to move to another city - the US could get more concessions out of the area.
Same goes domestically, maybe even more so. Especially in more remote areas, bases are probably the only economic engine keeping some of these areas from withering completely. If an area is very remote and there is no injection of money from the outside world, it gets pretty grim. I was on the island of Moloka’i a few months ago, and they decided some years back to shut down tourism as much as possible, and almost go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. The island is definitely hurting, people don’t have good diets or much access to medical care and are just haggard. It can’t last much more than a decade or so - the people who want it closed off will die off, and the young are leaving the island for better opportunities.
You forgot the 10 trillion dollars for “Wall Street Food Stamps”
At least we have cut the wasteful spending that was the Shuttle Program.
skroodle, You are not a scientist or an engineer. The space program was the proving ground for three generations of scientists and engineers, in which they proved their mastery of the trade. You can’t send a vessel up into space on the strength of an ill formulated opinion paper, or multiple choice test, the stuff of second tier schools’ liberal arts graduation requirements.
You want to continue the downward spiral of the Nation’s abilities for critical thinking and accomplishment? Fine. You got it. Promote the programs that require undocumented and ungrammatical opinionating. Demote that programs that are hard.
Voila!
As the article in Discovery magazine says:
>>Perhaps worst of all, the shuttle not only failed its own mission but prevented NASA from doing much else. The shuttle was a flying money pit that prevented us from launching vastly more efficient programs, like the Mars rovers, and even other attempts at manned flight.
So as we prepare to mothball the shuttles and send them off to their dotage at various museums, don’t be sad about the end of the program; instead think of where could have been now if we’d cancelled the thing 25 years ago. And make sure our future spaceships are based in and judged from this spot called reality.>>
And today to get a man in space we must rely on the generosity of the Russians.
When I hear people say this, I’m reminded of my ex business partners.
NASA returns $13 for every dollar spent.
Why does this remind me of my ex business partners? Because when our business got into trouble, they decided to shut down THE ONLY PROFITABLE part of our business.
I have always been a space nut….and could never understand why the change in America is to aim low?
There are variety of reasons, but the biggest public perception.
J6P can relate to amazing and daring feats of adventure, not plodding and steady progress with no clue how it benefits him.
Congress can relate to pork spending for their individual states, not technology that benefits everyone.
Then there is just the sheer number of Luddites in this country…
This is why we don’t need to stop social programs, we need to move them back to the state level. If social programs are at the state (and even county)level then the damned feds can’t get their hands on the money and repurpose it for DoD/ MI Complex / pork spending. Maybe the Feds could have oversight on state programs to facilitate interstate commerce and governance, but they shouldn’t control the spending itself… Eliminate federal income taxes.. they were unconstitutional originally, and some say the amendment to legalize them was ratified questionably. The feds had income before the income tax, and the income tax was designed to fund war (WWI). Lets get rid of the tax whose goal is to fund war!
How about we let the only tax be capital gains tax.. I’d be FINE with that…
Mathguy, if it weren’t for the Feds, there wouldn’t BE any social programs.
I lived through the riots of the 1960s. Cities were BURNING every month because the poor were desperate and there was NO federal programs.
Chances are pretty good we may see it again, and THEN you’ll know why the federal had to step in clean the mess.
Poetic justice
Copper theft: Dangers may not be worth risks
WRENS, Ga. — You’ve heard the stories — copper thefts are on the rise. People are trying to steal the metal to make a quick buck.
It’s not just illegal, it’s dangerous and may not be worth the risk.
Within the past month, at least two people have been taken to the Joseph M. Still Burn Center after being shocked.
Two people, from two different states, are accused of stealing copper, taking big chances and losing.
This is a 911 call from Henderson, North Carolina:
911 DISPATCHER: “911, what’s your emergency?”
CALLER: “Ma’am, I have two men here burned, and I need the ambulances now. They are burned up. All I can tell you is that their skin is melting off their bodies.”
Nicholas Surrett, 39, died in the incident. Officers think he and another man were stealing copper.
Another man, 27-year-old Jonvan Spears of Union, S.C, is in critical condition and Cherokee County deputies believe this was another failed attempt. This week, Spears and two other men were severely burned after officers believe they were trying to steal copper at a brickyard.
Michael Cantey at Jefferson Energy Cooperative demonstrated — using a chicken — what happens to a human body when it makes contact with a high voltage.
“The contact that that copper wire is making with the chicken represents exactly what would happen to your body with that 7,200 volts flowing through it,” Cantey said.
The chicken quickly fried. That chicken represents you, your skin, similar salts and nutrients — same effects
Well at least trying to steal copper is a good application of Darwinism.
I had to make sure it wasn’t a live chicken.
http://www.wrdw.com/crimeteam12/headlines/Copper_theft_Dangers_may_not_be_worth_risks_125984303.html - 64k -
Reminds me of the old “Chicken Cannon”
The aircraft manufacturers have to certify their windshields against impacts.
The OEM I used to work at had a big compressed air cannon to shoot chickens at windshields. They would shoot the chickens, and what was left of them deflected/ricoccheted off into the field beyond.
When the compressor fired up, you could see every coyote and skunk within a mile radius come running.
Compressor running = dinner bell.
Then there was the time they didn’t thaw the chickens before loading them into the cannon.
I’ve seen videos of the chicken cannons firing their payloads at fighter jet canopies. Pretty cool in slow motion as the canopies would bend and pop back out after deflectin the chicken.
“Then there was the time they didn’t thaw the chickens before loading them into the cannon.”
Incoming!
Thawed chickens are more destructive than frozen chickens according to Myth Busters.
“Thawed chickens are more destructive than frozen chickens according to Myth Busters.”
If I only had 2 choices.
1. Get hit in the head with a frozen chicken
2. Get hit in the head with a thawed chicken
I`m going thawed I don`t care what Myth Busters says.
Most people are in jail or prison because they are dumb.
Or poor.
That too.
I have a friend who’s a former Marine, and it…um…affected him in bad ways. He’s turned into a bit of a gore fan. I was treated to a picture of a gang of Africans in — Nigeria, I think — who had tried to steal oil by tapping into a pipeline and siphoning it off. They caused an explosion.
I won’t even describe to you the resulting picture. I only had two comments:
1. “God I hope those are dead.”
2. “Don’t you DARE make that your screen saver.”
Oxy, I had to be gently but firmly corrected on this one.
You are NEVER a “former Marine”. You are ALWAYS a Marine. There are some niceties of language if you’ve been drummed out for bad behavior, but those went over my haid.
Anyways, do you have a baseline for this behavior? A control, as it were? Do you know what he was like PRIOR to going into the service?
When negotiators can’t even decide where to start, it rarely bodes well for the outcome.
When Democrats talk of increasing revenues, they are starting from the CBO numbers which include the Bush tax cuts expiring and no fix to the AMT which everyone knows gets patched every year to keep it from hitting the middle class.
When the Republicans consider if/how much we are going to riase revenue, they are starting from this year’s rates where the Bush Tax cuts are still in effect and the AMT has already been fixed.
And, then there is the AARP crowd. They are actually believing the lies of congress that they intend to only cut for those under 55…. Like the 20% cut in Social Security, phased in over 20 years by locking COLAs to 1% below inflation…. So, you’re not going to be collecting 5% less 5 years from now? Oh, the cuts will just be for those starting SS after the bill passes… WRONG! And making Medicare a voucher system and locking the voucher to this years average per person expense…. That is for everyone toooo… including those alreasy collecting.
But, but, but… The Republicans siad everyone over 55 would be protected.
Dude, POLITICIANS LIE!!!!!
They are hoping that you won’t noice that your SS check isn’t keeping up with inflation and you are being forced to pay more of your medical, until it is too late.
The under 55 promise was only for Paul Ryan’s budget proposal. No one is even talking about that one, so there is no under 55 promise out there. None at all.
#@$%! meddling pension board….
Hedge fund rejected by split pension board
The $100 million investment lacked the votes
A recommendation from the county pension board’s portfolio strategist to invest $100 million in a new hedge fund suffered a rare rejection Thursday, in part because board members learned the trader lost $1.8 billion in now-notorious “credit default swap” investments in 2008.
Partridge recommended that the board invest $100 million with Boaz Weinstein, a well-known credit trader who lost $1.8 billion in 2008 when he worked for Deutsche Bank.
Some board members complained that Partridge did not include Weinstein’s investment history in materials he provided the board in advance of his recommendation.
Partridge responded that his firm, Salient Partners of Texas, conducts extensive reviews of the investment managers it recommends but routinely excludes some details from their reports to clients.
“We normally don’t release the background checks to the board; it has never been the practice,” said Partridge
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/21/hedge-fund-rejected-by-split-pension-board/
Abandoned and foreclosed homes a haven for crime in Lake Worth
By Willie Howard Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:37 p.m. Saturday, July 23, 2011
LAKE WORTH — Bank foreclosures have aggravated the city’s problem with run-down houses, leaving abandoned properties open to prostitutes, squatters and drug dealers.
“Some of the conditions are Third World,” Commissioner Scott Maxwell said during a tour of blighted houses last month. “We need to stop sugar-coating it.”
In the case of about 75 properties, the city doesn’t have anyone to hold accountable. They’re in foreclosure, but the banks don’t have clear titles. In other cases, the city wants to demolish buildings but can’t get clear title to them
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/abandoned-and-foreclosed-homes-a-haven-for-crime-1641488.html - -
“In the case of about 75 properties, the city doesn’t have anyone to hold accountable. They’re in foreclosure, but the banks don’t have clear titles. In other cases, the city wants to demolish buildings but can’t get clear title to them”
And who is paying the house insurance policy on these properties? If they aren’t insured, go in, find mold, declare them uninhabitable and bulldoze them. The banks will then have to mark the loss.
In the early 60’s San Diego had vacant property and the owner’s couldn’t get insurance (fire) so renting was very cheap in order to get renters and thus insurance.
<“Some of the conditions are Third World,” Commissioner Scott Maxwell said during a tour of blighted houses last month. “We need to stop sugar-coating it.”
..as I’ve been saying.
where are the arsonists when you need them.
IL–Nursing Home Closing
Associated Press July 23, 2011
ASTORIA, Ill.—
A west-central Illinois nursing home will close next week because of late payments from the state, the facility’s administrator said.
Astoria Gardens and Rehab Center has had to wait six months to receive its payments, said administrator Steve Axelbaum, who added that “nothing can survive in this environment.”
“It is criminal that we provide services for the state, and they don’t pay us for six months,” Axelbaum told the (Peoria) Journal Star for a story on its web site Saturday.
Arrangements are being made to move the home’s 35 residents — many of whom are in their 80s and 90s — to other facilities in the area, he said.
The facility, which has been in business for about a decade, employs about 40 people. The property on about 6.5 acres of land will be sold.
Melaney Arnold, spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Public Health, confirmed that the nursing home in Astoria was closing voluntarily. She said it’s the home’s responsibility to relocate its residents.
Illinois has a multibillion-dollar budget deficit, and the state has dealt with the fiscal crisis, in part, by delaying payments to agencies and providers.
“This is happening all over the region,” Axelbaum said. “It’s a real bitter shame for the community.”
“… we provide services for the state, and they don’t pay us for six months.”
And that is because the state is short of _____.
a. politicians
b. laws and regulations
c. money
Poor planning, states have been living in a fantasy land for decades. Bills are due, and the tax your way to pay off debt plan is not going to work this go round. Reality is biting many folks on the a$$.
Exactly, they figured they unicorn would continue to provide.
Of course there is plenty of money. According to the Federal Reserve M1 and M2 are still on the rise. Someone has that money, it just isn’t the state of Illinois.
Maybe they should give businesses more tax breaks to create jobs because the ones they’ve already given don’t seem to have been enough?
Bills and due and taxes aren’t going to be enough. And now we see exactly who is going to be “sacrificing.” People in their 80’s annd 90’s, and those workers who took care of them.
Somewhere, there are executives at Goldman Sachs celebrating.
Rule number one in American business: stiff your vendors/contractors/employees/customers as often as possible.
Ben, the Oil CIty thread is gone?!
(Reaches for tin foil hat…)
It’s there at the top
Whew!
Can I still wear my hat?
You can still wear the tin foil hat as long as you have a Saran Wrap liner for it.
Weird. How did you know? The only other thing I am wearing is saran wrap.
You don’t want to know how I knew.
“Soft patch” riiight!
U.S. Growth Probably Slowed in Second Quarter
Bloomberg - Jul 24, 2011
The U.S. economy probably expanded in the second quarter at the slowest pace in a year as higher fuel costs crimped consumer spending and supply disruptions limited production, economists said before a report this week.
Gross domestic product, the sum of all goods and services produced in the nation, rose at a 1.8 percent annual pace after a 1.9 percent gain in the previous three months, according to the median forecast of 69 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News before the Commerce Department’s July 29 report. Home sales languished and consumer confidence dimmed, other data may show.
Americans’ purchases last quarter grew at the weakest pace since the recession ended in 2009, reflecting limited job growth that may keep holding back the world’s largest economy. That is among reasons Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said this month that the Federal Reserve needs to keep all policy options open.
“The soft patch has hung around a little longer than expected,” said Ryan Sweet, a senior economist at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania. “A lot of the slowdown can be blamed on temporary factors, but not all of it. Consumers faced several headwinds, which caused them to ratchet down their spending.”
Perhaps because there is a ’soft patch’ of new jobs that pay more than $500/week?
“TruePathtoPro$perity™”…they have a plan:
Job$! Job$! Job$!
$tarting pay: $6.25 per hour
.15 cent pay raise every 3 years
No Company Inc. provide Health benefits, use Gov’t provided services.
No 401k Company Inc. matching monie$
No right to organize against Company Inc. (SCOTU$ person)
No, “The Owner$ Inc.” never overtly practice family Nepoti$m for job openings, every position is merit based.
Yes, termination without cause is legal
Yes, you must sign these Company Inc. papers agreeing to 3-4-5 party “Arbitration”
Yes, underfunded Gov’t agency has peon grievance paperwork filing “system”
Yes, you can take 2 hrs time to vote, but it’s frowned upon by “The Owner$ Inc.” & HR.
Yes, it’s OK to donate monie$ to the same political candidate as “The Owner$ Inc.”,…there will be a flyer in your paycheck envelope.
Yes, your email & cell phone numbers are required for your perpetual “on-call” status
“So, are there any questions, no?, bet your anxious to get right to work.”
You forgot no paid time off.
No worries, the ’sweet spot’ income of 14K means max Earned Income Tax Credit of $5,666
“The soft patch has hung around a little longer than expected,”
I think I see a business opportunity here…
“Soft Patch Kids” They could come with a Doll house with a little foreclosure sign in front of it.
Kind of like Cabbage Patch Kids that was a line of dolls created by Xavier Roberts in 1978.
Only the sheltered and ivory tower dwellers would have the gall and ignorance to call this a “soft patch.”
Gotta love all this hope&change!
Koch, Exxon Mobil Among Corporations Helping Write State Laws
(Bloomberg)
Koch Industries Inc. and Exxon Mobil Corp. are among companies that would benefit from almost identical energy legislation introduced in state capitals from Oregon to New Mexico to New Hampshire — and that’s by design. Photographer: John Gress/Getty Images
Koch Industries Inc. and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) are among companies that would benefit from almost identical energy legislation introduced in state capitals from Oregon to New Mexico to New Hampshire — and that’s by design.
The energy companies helped write the legislation at a meeting organized by a group they finance, the American Legislative Exchange Council, a Washington-based policy institute known as ALEC.
The corporations, both ALEC members, took a seat at the legislative drafting table beside elected officials and policy analysts by paying a fee between $3,000 and $10,000, according to documents obtained by Bloomberg News.
The opportunity for corporations to become co-authors of state laws legally through ALEC covers a wide range of issues from energy to taxes to agriculture. The price for participation is an ALEC membership fee of as much as $25,000 — and the few extra thousands to join one of the group’s legislative-writing task forces. Once the “model legislation” is complete, it’s up to ALEC’s legislator members to shepherd it into law.
“This is just another hidden way for corporations to buy their way into the legislative process,” said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause, a Washington-based group that advocates for limits on money in politics.
Corporations have been writing our laws since before 1776.
New York’s property tax rates vary widely, depending on where you live
Homeowners in the struggling city of Fulton pay the highest property tax rates of any city in New York state.
For every $1,000 of a home’s value, Fulton residents pay $51.14 to the city, county and school district.
By contrast, homeowners in the village of Skaneateles pay less than half that rate — $24.77.
Everyone knows that New Yorkers pay high property taxes – the fourth highest in the country and twice the national median. But less known is that there is such wide disparity between localities within New York and that this difference favors higher-end real estate markets.
One example: A $200,000 house in the town of Skaneateles and a $175,000 house in Onondaga – about 15 miles apart — were sold at about the same time this year. The Skaneateles owner paid $4,400 a year in taxes; the Onondaga homeowner paid $6,400.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/new_yorks_property_tax_rates_v.html
Holy Shiite! That’s as much as they pay in Florida, which has no state income tax. Is there also no state income tax in New York?
You better believe there is state income tax in NY.
Collectively we’re doing what we can’t do on an individual basis. We’re borrowing massive amounts of money with the willful intention of sending the responsibility for paying it back to our posterity. What a spineless act! Forcing future generations to pay debt with which they had nothing to do!
But, Sir!’ exclaims a pompous ass among the Washington spendthrifts, ‘repudiation of our national debt by future generations would be dishonorable! We have issued our official promises to pay and these promises must be met by future taxpayers. We could not find any buyers for our bonds and other IOUs if they thought the debt they represent might be repudiated. It wouldn’t be fair to the bondholders!
Repudiation is dishonorable? I think the lack of honor lies with the present generation trying to foist its obligations onto future generations. As for ‘fairness to bondholders,’ they are willing to buy these certificates of debt knowing they are claims on the means of future producers who never agreed to the obligation. Why is that honorable?
Our posterity will not be blind. Once the children are grown and in control of the mechanism of governance it may become apparent to them they have been saddled with debt amounting to several trillions of dollars which were spent in an astonishingly reckless era. They will carry a financial burden they never voted for. As former Colorado Governor Lamm put it in 1985, ‘Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want—and their kids pay for it.’
If posterity repudiates the national debt and bondholders are left out in the cold, with whom would your sympathies lie?
“Collectively we’re doing what we can’t do on an individual basis.”
Not anymore we aren’t. Not because we - collectively - don’t want to but because we - collectively - can’t.
Which is a good thing in the long run but will really hurt us in the short run. IMHO.
Has anyone seen this?
“I was in chronic pain, and my family struggling to make ends met, food and gas prices going up, even keeping my job was iffy. Then I learned about a new miracle drug, made in Washington D.C. “$penditol”. “$penditol” is Washington answer to all the painful problems Americans face”
” “$penditol”. “$penditol” is not for everyone. Side effects may include a mountain of government of debt piled up on our kids, a sudden loss of freedoms, higher prices for everything, leaving a kids a lessor American than we had. Ask your doctor or Congressman if you conscious is strong enough for “$penditol”. And it’s so popular in Washington we have to borrow, I mean import trillions more of it from China. “$penditol” makes you feel better now, and pushes off the really bad stuff till later for them (next generation) to deal with.”
http://lybio.net/spenditol/politics/ - 51k -
The educated 20-somethings are avoiding marriage until at least in their late 20s. They realize that if they have kids, their kids will basically be debt slaves to pay for the ancestor’s desire for big government and the nanny state.
This is part of the marriage strike. It’s bigger though. It’s the strike against slavery at birth.
+1
I thought that it had to with the fact that those educated young people like to complete their education, get a career started, and only then get married and have babies. The size of the government debt is a probably not a big factor.
Interestingly, that order (education -> career -> marriage -> babies) is a great class indicator. I know a woman who had a kid pretty young, then got married and got a crappy customer service job. Now she’s around 42, and the two kids are more or less grown. She’s trying to get a bachelor’s degree (online) and there’s a plan to get a master’s degree, presumably to get a better job. She’s a nice woman, but this is not likely to work out for her.
Well she has a better chance of getting ahead of her peers if she finishes the degrees. Hopefully they are useful degrees.
A couple of years ago, someone came up with “Havidol”, a fictitious drug. They even have their own website. Slogan– “Havidol: When More is Not Enough”
http://www.havidol.com/
Yes tight lending standards and bigger down payments must be the problem with the housing recovery. Here is the sale and loan info on the house that I bid on, but according to the crooked Realtor who had the listing and would not return my calls for 4 days and then said I was second in line with my full price offer that I had in 5 hours later.
Sale Date Sale Price
04/28/2011 $162,200
Type: MTG
Date/Time: 5/10/2011 11:31:25
CFN: 20110169042
Book Type: O
Book/Page: 24515/1811
Pages: 5
Consideration: $158,088.00
Party 1: ROURKE ADAM C
Party 2: MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS INC
GROUP ONE MORTGAGE INC
Legal: CINQUEZ PK L70 L
Phony documents increase in hard economic times
Charlotte-area property owners often victims.
Sunday, July 24th
Some of the documents forgive debt. Others cancel contracts, declare citizens exempt from taxes or even grant home ownership.
Problem is, they’re all fake. And the phony paper can create a nightmare for unsuspecting property owners: stolen identities, seized homes and long hours in court to set the record straight.
In one recent case in Union County, authorities say two scammers obtained a false deed for a vacant home, seized the property during a real estate showing and changed the locks before sheriff’s deputies arrested them a few days later.
Real estate experts and local officials say bogus documents are becoming more common in Charlotte and other places where economic uncertainty and mortgage woes persist. Some fake papers come from borrowers desperate to escape financial hardship; other filers appear to be motivated by political or religious causes.
Although the problem isn’t widespread across North Carolina, it’s a rising concern.
“They were a novelty (a few years ago),” said Mecklenburg County Register of Deeds David Granberry, whose office processes thousands of county records every week. “You’d see one and you’d show it around to everybody. Now, everybody sees them.”
About 200 questionable documents, from fake deeds to letters proclaiming mortgage debts wiped away, have surfaced in Mecklenburg this year - up significantly from before the recession, said Granberry, who was elected to the post in 2008.
Sometimes the paperwork is harmless: jabs at the government or big companies with no legal standing. But in other cases, scammers file documents in an effort to evade payments or control real estate.
A few recent offenders:
– A deed, created to look like it’s from a bank, that transfers the title of a Charlotte property to another owner.
– A certificate of satisfaction showing a $151,900 debt had been paid.
– An affidavit granting the filer “diplomatic status, diplomatic immunity and … the status and treatment of a foreign Sovereign,” plus the right to travel internationally.
Such scams come and go, but they’ve surged in parts of the country in recent years amid the rising tide of distressed properties. In Mecklenburg County last year, for instance, half of residential property sales involved a foreclosed home or one on the brink of foreclosure. Now the Internet makes it easy to find detailed directions on how to fake documents, said Tom Miller, legal counsel at the N.C. Real Estate Commission.
Authorities say some of the fake papers have come from “sovereign citizens,” anti-government crusaders who claim to be above the law. Others come from people who claim to be members of the Moorish Science Temple of America, an obscure religious group. Their motives are sometimes unclear, but in some cases, the documents seek everything from name changes to home ownership to international travel rights.
In a federal sentencing hearing in Charlotte last week, a woman accused of participating in a massive mortgage fraud scam told the court she couldn’t be sentenced because she was a sovereign entity representing herself. Alicia Taylor, who prosecutors said helped facilitate fraudulent loans in the Operation Wax House scheme, had filed paperwork declaring her special status. As authorities handcuffed her and led her from the courtroom, she told the judge he lacked jurisdiction to sentence her.
But a growing number of false documents are clearly tied to the recession, Miller said. Some are from people who have fallen on hard times; others come from scammers who offer to help them - for a fee - by filing documents purporting to eliminate debt or halt the foreclosure process.
“How is the ordinary citizen, who’s stressed out of his mind, supposed to know the difference?” Miller said. “He wants to believe that all of this is true.”
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/24/2477663/phony-documents-increase-in-hard.html#ixzz1T23YVuCV
“He wants to believe that all this is true.”
This belief goes to the root of why these “ordinary citizens” are in the fix they are in.
Yes…. and no.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be an expert on all facets of our bureaucratic life. You HAVE to trust that the system of checks and balances, rewards and punishments, rules and regulations, works.
There is NO other choice.
It is reasonable to expect a modicum of self education, but no one can be an expert at everything.
Just another fine up standing “lawmaker”…
Troubled David Wu reaches out to Nancy Pelosi
By JOHN BRESNAHAN | 7/23/11 POLITICO
Rep. David Wu spoke to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other top Democrats on Saturday about his political future in the wake of allegations of a sexual encounter with a teenager, but it is not clear whether the Oregon Democrat will step down from office.
Wu has been accused of having an “unwanted sexual encounter” with the teenage daughter of a longtime friend last year over Thanksgiving weekend. The teenager, whose identity has not been disclosed, and her family have not filed any criminal complaint against the longtime lawmaker, but the incident, the second accusation of inappropriate sexual behavior against Wu, is “extremely troubling” to Pelosi and other Democrats, say Democratic insiders.
Pelosi has been in the Capitol all day as she and other congressional leaders are struggling to reach a deal to raise the U.S. government’s $14.3 trillion debt ceiling before a default deadline of Aug. 2. Pelosi said she was too busy to comment on the Wu scandal.
Democratic insiders would not comment on Pelosi’s conversation with Wu other than to confirm that the two had spoken and other senior House Democrats have contacted the lawmaker as well.
Wu, who was born in Taiwan, has disappeared from public view in the past day. He is believed to be holed up in his congressional office or residence on Capitol Hill. Wu has not commented on the allegations other than to release a short statement calling the matter “very serious.”
In 1976, Wu was accused of attempted rape by a former girlfriend. No charges were filed in that case, but Wu, who was then attending Stanford University, was required to see a counselor and was disciplined by the university.
“unwanted sexual encounter”
I assume this means the girl did not want it?
“…has disappeared from public view in the past day.”
“Wu is me”
As the saying goes in the Texas Brazos bottoms:
“…boys, diz like this; that turkel, he daid, he justs don’t knows it!”
Rep. David Wu crashed car in Northwest Portland last year, says he fell asleep
Published: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 8:09 PM
By Janie Har,
The Oregonian The Oregonian
U.S. Rep. David Wu crashed his vehicle into a parked car in Northwest Portland last year, but passed a police field sobriety test and the incident never showed up in a police report.
No one was injured after the Feb. 19, 2010 incident. The congressman’s spokesman, Erik Dorey, said Wu fell asleep while driving.
Still, the woman who called 9-1-1 to report the incident said she assumed there was “some kind of disability if he was driving on the wrong side of the street.” She also said that Wu did not want her to call police.
“He says he fell asleep,” says Karen Fog, in the recording. “I don’t believe him.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/03/rep_david_wu_crashed_car_in_no.html - 91k -
So disabled people drive on the wrong side of the road?
“So disabled people drive on the wrong side of the road?”
I don`t know about that but they get some great parking spaces. Now I have seen 2 drunk people and 1 guy on a suicide mission drive on the wrong side of the road in my life. The suicide mission dude drove right past me on I95 going the wrong way in 1980.
It’s looking increasingly likely that those who have been hoping the debt ceiling will not be raised will get their wish, as it appears the Democrats and the Republicans cannot find room for a compromise.
The Wall Street Journal
POLITICS
JULY 24, 2011, 9:03 A.M. ET
Debt Talks Dissolve Again
BY CAROL E. LEE, COREY BOLES AND NAFTALI BENDAVID
WASHINGTON – Congressional talks dissolved in recrimination again Saturday night, as the latest proposal for cutting the deficit and raising the government’s debt limit hit a wall with 10 days left before the U.S. begins defaulting on its obligations.
Republican and Democratic leaders had identified immediate spending cuts of about $1 trillion with future cuts to be specified by a commission.
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What happens to airplanes that don’t get off the ground before they reach the end of the runway?
America’s Debt Crisis
Geithner: ‘We’re almost out of runway’
By Charles Riley
July 24, 2011: 11:23 AM ET
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner first told Congress in January that the debt ceiling would need to be raised.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Lawmakers rushed Sunday to find a solution to the debt ceiling debate that would provide some measure of certainty for financial markets, even as both sides continued to spar in public.
The ceiling must be raised by Aug. 2. Lawmakers have been negotiating for months, looking for a way to both cut spending and raise the nation’s legal borrowing limit.
Still, there is no clear path forward.
“It’s taken us seven months to get to the place where we are now,” Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union. “We’re almost out of runway. We’re not nowhere, but we’re almost out of runway.”
…
The deal was not reached by July 22, and the market shrugged. I begin to doubt those who claim the asset markets will sell off if no debt ceiling deal is reached, as it seems like some selling would have already occurred on July 22, given the lack of apparent progress on a deal as of Friday.
U.S. Debt Ceiling Deadline: Best Investments for a U.S. Debt Default
By Jim Fink
7/15/2011
It’s not funny anymore. Yesterday, when asked about the negotiations between the White House and Congressional Republicans over raising the $14.3 trillion U.S. debt ceiling, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said with a straight face that “Republicans may need to see markets drop 500 points” before agreeing to a deal.
Did that get your attention? Sure, Pelosi’s statement may be mere political gesturing, but I am starting to worry. The debt ceiling deadline is August 2nd, which is less than three weeks away. And to get legislation passed in time, an agreement needs to be reached even earlier, like by July 22nd (one week away). I think it fair to say that most investor portfolios are not prepared for a 500-point stock market drop.
…
“I think it fair to say that most investor portfolios are not prepared for a 500-point stock market drop.”
That is kind of a lame statement, assuming the ‘500-point stock market drop’ refers to the Dow Jones Industrial Average. A quick look back over the year so far shows we have already built in a cushion for a 2600-point DJIA drop off the 10K low point set at the end of last summer.
What happens to airplanes that don’t get off the ground before they reach the end of the runway?
A just-in-time delivery of more runway is put in place?
The three most useless things to a pilot are the runway behind you, the altitude above you, and the fuel you’ve burned.
Post investigation: Did stimulus money create jobs in Palm Beach County?
By Charles Elmore Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 9:33 a.m. Sunday, July 24, 2011
The largest stimulus-fueled road projects in Palm Beach County have created less than 20 percent of the jobs once promised, a Palm Beach Post analysis based on federal job-creation standards shows.
Though the Obama administration pitched stimulus projects as “shovel-ready,” only half of Palm Beach County’s 12 road projects were complete entering July, more than two years after Congress’ approval in February 2009. And the region’s biggest project, the Indian Street Bridge in Martin County, has barely begun.
Florida benefited more than any other state with about 60,000 stimulus-related jobs created or saved in the first quarter of 2011, according to federal statistics compiled at recovery.gov. The biggest chunk went to teachers whose layoffs were averted, at least temporarily, with federal aid.
Local officials forecast nearly 600 jobs at five of Palm Beach County’s largest projects in early 2009. At least that many people got paychecks. But the hours worked amount to slightly more than 100 “full-time equivalent” jobs, based on 40-hour work weeks.
Several city officials said there wasn’t much guidance on how to estimate jobs in the scramble of early 2009 and it’s not really fair to compare the numbers now.
“The joke of something being shovel-ready is not funny if you’ve been unemployed for two years or more,” said Sean Snaith, director of the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Economic Competitiveness. “I think the judgment of the stimulus package is it didn’t live up to its billing.”
The view looks different from under Rafael Vicente’s hard hat.
He said stimulus spending preserved his job as a senior inspector with a contractor hired for projects including work on Blue Heron Boulevard and A1A in Riviera Beach.
60 jobs become 17
Take Royal Palm Beach, where a main boulevard bearing the village’s name attracted $2.6 million in federal money to add bike lanes, curbs and landscaping. The village told county planners it expected the work to create 60 jobs in 2009.
Work began in May 2010 and was scheduled for completion in about a year, though village officials say it may be September before it’s done.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/post-investigation-did-stimulus-money-create-jobs-in-1644774.html?cxtype=rss_news - -
So Rafael Vicente was one of the eight guys watching the two guys work on these projects while the well connected contractor he works for received obscene amounts of stimulus money.
“The joke of something being shovel-ready is not funny if you’ve been unemployed for two years or more,” said Sean Snaith, director of the University of Central Florida’s Institute for Economic Competitiveness. “I think the judgment of the stimulus package is it didn’t live up to its billing.”
Another “joke” is that this buffoon still has a job!
The only industry more corrupt than construction, is ROAD construction.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=190583
Ireland trying to hide a bank default?
I would love to watch Reid throw a hissy/sissy fit, it just has to be hilarious!
Congress ditches Obama on debt talks
POLITICO 44 - 7-24-11
That’s not to say Saturday’s congressional takeover went well.
In a frantic bid to avoid causing a worldwide economic disruption, debt negotiations have shifted wholly to Capitol Hill, as a frustrated President Barack Obama has taken a step back and allowed House and Senate leaders to try to find a way out of the debt-ceiling debacle. After congressional leaders told Obama at the White House Saturday morning they would attempt to stave off the crisis before Asian markets open Sunday evening, leadership aides raced to put together a framework that both parties could support.
With the president staying out of the picture, congressional leaders struggled to make progress on a temporary two-step solution that raises the debt limit with some offsetting cuts.
In an extraordinary Saturday evening session in the Capitol, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sat around negotiating, on their own turf, without White House aides present.
The four smiled for the TV cameras during a photo-op at the top of their 50-minute meeting, but no one would say a word about whether they had made any progress.
“Bye,” Boehner told a reporter who asked about whether he could reassure the country a deal could be reached.
But after the cameras left Boehner’s office, talks grew tense as the four argued over the contours of a package that could define the next 16 months of the congressional and campaign season - and have widespread economic implications.
Reid was “very angry” in the meeting with Boehner and McConnell, according to a Democratic official. Following the meeting, Pelosi escorted Reid back to her office because she didn’t want the furious majority leader to say anything to the press. Reid is “adamant” about no short-term extension of the debt ceiling, the official said.
For Republicans, taking the talks out of the White House has at least something to do with optics — very few Republicans want to vote for a deal with Obama’s name attached to it.
House conservatives have grown deeply distrustful of Obama’s motivations and were skeptical of the “grand bargain” Boehner was negotiating with the president. He didn’t share the details of his negotiations with the House Republican Conference and many of them were privately concerned about any agreement between Obama and the speaker, particularly on the thorny issue of tax increases.
During tense negotiations Saturday night, Reid and Pelosi signaled a willingness to consider a GOP idea to enact a two-step process, calling for trillions of dollars worth of spending cuts and extending the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion through 2012. The idea was similar to one Obama rejected in his talks with Boehner about a week back - but White House officials weren’t in the room Saturday evening.
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Interesting conjecture on the effects of the debt ceiling outcome on the U.S. economy; according to this analyst, all outcomes point to near-term recession.
Positioning Investments for a Debt Ceiling Decision
July 24, 2011
As I type, there is still significant uncertainty about the debt ceiling. Will the Republicans give in and allow more spending, or will the Republicans stand firm and bring the government’s operation to a standstill?
If the debt ceiling isn’t raised on time to make the August payments on US Treasury securities, the only options would be for the government to immediately print money to pay the securities or for the US government to immediately shutdown operations, halting paychecks and possibly even halting all federal retirement checks and social security checks.
Because T-bills currently yield 0.02% or below, there is not a strong argument that there is significant need to curtail the debt limit. But of course, there is an argument that this economy is getting totally out of control, and taking any efforts which haven’t been tried yet could be worth a shot.
Effects of the Republican Solution:
If the government is forced to shutdown even just for a few days or the debt limit increase is only very small, there will be no way for the economy to escape a double dip recession. The budget deficit will see immediate improvement, but incomes for much of the US will be lowered. This income reduction will result in an immediate drop in consumer spending, which will decrease GDP, but it will also help reduce the trade deficit. This will result in a strengthening of the dollar. So in other words, the Republican solution and threats will lead to a stronger dollar, but a definite recession. I believe this policy action would effectively take away power from the Federal Reserve and instead put the power in the hands of politicians.
Effects of the Democrat Solution:
On the other hand, using the Democrats’ methods of upping the debt limit right away and without much caution will result in a continuation of what has been occurring for the past several years. The dollar will continue to weaken, which will stimulate net exports, and slightly boost the private sector job market. The Democrats’ plan relies more on a waiting game for the Chinese yuan to be revalued properly to stimulate US exports, while the Republican plan attempts to force even more efficiency on the US economy without any crutches whatsoever.
Analysis:
Either plan will actually work, but politically the Republicans will have the ability to make it appear as if president Obama has destroyed the economy by putting it through two recessions, the second one occurring right before the elections. The truth, without party bias, is that the Republican plan is much harder on America in the short run, but better in the long run. The Democrats’ plan is easier in the short run, but worse for the long run. With such a vicious economy, with seemingly no improvement in sight for years, there is a great argument for either direction. I think if the Republicans directed their government spending cuts energies on the war rather than on essential services and income to the poor, they would have nearly universal support. The logic being, if everybody is totally messed up anyways, why not just officially mess up hard and end the pain sooner? Kind of like pulling off a band-aid quickly rather than slowly. I tend to agree with that philosophy.
The problem is that Republican theory is not designed to improve the economy; it is designed to get their party members elected and nothing more.
Investment Decision Making:
I think it is somewhat safe to prepare for a recession at this point, but if the Republican plans go through, a recession is a near certainty. The recession will probably not hit that hard though because the economy is already in such ruins. The last recession we had would have been much, much deeper if government spending were not increased like it was. Those government jobs which cushioned the recession are now going to be erased due to lack of government ability to pay.
If the Republicans get their way, the best portfolio positioning for a recession will be to take long positions in high duration government bonds such as the (TLT) bond fund. With less debt issued, inflation is much lower of a concern, and the likelihood of a government default in the future decreases when fiscal policy is forced like it will be. Gold (GLD) will be undesirable to hold because fiscal restraint will cause the dollar to strengthen. Also, deflation could come around again if the recession is strong enough, further causing (GLD) to be undesirable. The flight to precious metals in past recessions would likely not occur because this recession would be because of fiscal restraint rather than increased US debt. At the least, Gold would stop its monumental rise. Stocks (SPY, QQQ, DIA), would likely be undesirable to own due to pressure on US exporters from the stronger dollar. In short, the Republican plan should make one bullish for government bonds.
If the Democrats get their way, government bonds (TLT) will weaken due to the increasing inflation pressure and the higher risk for a giant debt default in the future. Stocks would be more desirable to own because US exporters would have a weaker dollar to work with right away. Employment will be much, much better under the Democrats’ plan, so real estate would likely be less risky versus the Republican plan. In short, the Democrats’ plan should make one more bullish on US exporter stocks and real estate and bearish for government bonds.
My guess is the debt ceiling will be raised, but much, much less than the Democrats wished it would. This will probably result in a recession.
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Stocks would be more desirable to own because US exporters would have a weaker dollar to work with right away. Employment will be much, much better under the Democrats’ plan
This guy thinks the exporters still manufacture in USA. What a moron?
We have been nothing but devaluing dollar last 10 yrs. Exports have nothing but fallen, so have the jobs. Not sure why it would be different this time?
More jackass-like braying about “reducing regulation on new/startup/small business”.
They just don’t get it.
A bunch of local small businesses have gone under. NONE of them says they went under because of “excess regulation”.
They are failing because of A LACK OF CUSTOMERS.
Nobody is going to start a new business of any kind, if there is no demand for the product, or no customers with disposable income to actually pay for the product.
My giving everyone a $3000 principle reduction on their credit card debt is looking better by the day. If they are going to throw 300 billion down a rat whole why not just once try a bottoms up stimulus package?
Wallstreet will scream, Inflation!
That’s why it will never happen.
Borrow money against non-proven future income?
Why does this sounds familiar.
X-GSfixr
Got a lot of laughs with your grizzly bear pepper spray and bells bit. When asked where I heard it I replied.. some guy that fixes jets. Where`d you meet him? I didn’t.
Democrats in ‘volcanic’ mood
By James Politi in Washington - FT
Barbara Mikulski, Democratic senator from Maryland, best captured the turn of events in the critical US debt talks.
After emerging from a lunch meeting on Thursday with members of her party and Jack Lew, the White House budget director, Ms Mikulski said her colleagues were feeling “volcanic” about the prospect of a $3,000bn deal to cut deficits and raise the debt ceiling that did not include any higher taxes, adding that it was “like Mount Vesuvius” in the room.
Harry Reid, the US Senate majority leader, added: “This can’t be all cuts, there has to be a balance.”
Facing a possible revolt from within Democratic ranks, White House officials immediately dismissed the notion that the president would strike any agreement with Republicans to implement significant spending cuts – including reform of treasured government programmes such as Medicare and Social Security – without garnering any new revenue in return. They also invited Democratic leaders back to the White House for a second straight day of talks in an effort to shore up their support in the negotiations.
Democrats are still expected to back whatever deal President Barack Obama strikes with congressional Republicans, but Thursday’s discontent highlighted the delicate balancing act facing White House officials as they go back-and-forth between the parties in search of a compromise.
Seems like the raising the debt limit debate has come down to this. Demotards want the raise large enough that they don’t have to discuss it again before the election. Reptards, on the other hand, want a small raise so that they get to discuss it one more time before the election.
Turd sandwich and Crap Sandwich, they all stink to the core.
“Reptards, on the other hand, want a small raise so that they get to discuss it one more time before the election.”
They also must hope the crisis of confidence they have created through intransigent negotiating tactics coupled with whatever near-term cutbacks in federal spending they manage to achieve will be sufficient to tip the economy back into recession in time for the 2012 election, and that the electorate will blame Obama rather than the GOP.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Next election will be about throw the bums out ala 2010 on a grander scale. The economy will not recover enough to matter anyway even if demtards get their wish.
The demtards plan seems to me like let’s follow the same strategy that got us here. Borrow massively and create few temporary jobs here and there just for the election and hopefully people will vote them. I mean it’s not like they have any other plans.
I favor the 3rd plan. Let’s default now. Let’s salvage what we can. If it’s good for Iceland and Greece to default, why not us?
We have to go thru massive pain either now or few years down the road. Let’s do it now. Let’s clean the house now. Let’s bankrupt some wallstreet banks now. Who’s with me?
“The management team who sends a company into bankruptcy should not be the same management team to see it out of bankruptcy”
-Gordon Bethune, fmr. CEO of Continental Airlines
Lower taxes don’t lead to lower prices because corporate America is just out to screw everyone.
Airlines are taking savings from expired taxes
Most US airlines are taking savings from expired taxes, leaving customers with no tax holiday
David Koenig, AP Airlines Writer, On Saturday July 23, 2011, 10:30 pm EDT
DALLAS (AP) — Airlines are tossing consumers aside and grabbing the benefit of lower federal taxes on travel tickets.
By Saturday night, nearly all the major U.S. airlines had raised fares to offset taxes that expired the night before.
That means instead of passing along the savings, the airlines are pocketing the money while customers pay the same amount as before.
American, United, Continental, Delta, US Airways, Southwest, AirTran and JetBlue all raised fares, although details sometimes differed. Most of the increases were around 7.5 percent.
This struck me at the right time. I hit gold status on US Airways on my next flight back home to Phoenix. So on all my remaining scheduled flights this calendar year between Tampa and Phoenix, I am using my awards. 600,000 miles of them. I just booked a round trip ticket and I paid only a $7.50 redemption fee.
I’m trying to beat US Airways to the punch before they raise the miles for awards. I fear they will do that this year.
Crusiing the Rideau Canal in Ontario again this summer. I’ve been told by two people this week that Canada’s property prices are going down. Sure, it’s only two people, but I never heard a Canadian say this before. Very few for-sale signs on the waterway this year.
Nice to see crude back at $100.00!
Who could have seen this coming…The real-a-tor is fine though.
Once-thriving businesses near Avondale Shipyard are now struggling to survive The Times-Picayune RUSTY COSTANZA 7-24-2011
Darcy Adams can’t believe she used to make enough in tips to go shoe-shopping. She misses those days now.
With more bills and past-due notices arriving every day, Adams, 49, looks stressed as she lights another cigarette and surveys the bar. It’s happy hour, but with just four men in the place, two poking at billiard balls in the corner and two nursing beers at the bar, the dozens of empty bar stools underscore just how dead it really is.
“I can’t sleep at night. I can’t pay my bills. I’m stressing so bad,” said Adams, of Waggaman. “This place used to be packed. Now, I’m lucky if I get 10 customers.”
As the bartender at O’Reilly’s in Bridge City for the past 10 years, Adams is among the hundreds of people in the Avondale Shipyard area who have seen their business plummet in the past year. Since Northrop Grumman announced last July it would close the shipyard by 2013, the yard’s 5,000 workers have been laid off or left to await their fate. The fallout, for the local businesses that rely on their patronage, has been devastating.
“Come 2013, I’ll be 55, unemployed, and unemployable,” said Rob Laborde, 53, who has worked at the shipyard for the past 22 years. “You gotta keep all your money now. You gotta count every dime you got.”
The layoffs have come in waves, with anywhere from 40 to 200 workers being handed pink slips every month or so. With that kind of uncertainty, the shipyard workers have been saving their paychecks.
“They used to buy rounds and rounds of drinks in here. Now they grab one or two beers, always the cheapest ones,” said Adams, adding that the Budweiser and Miller beer truck drivers have commented on the community’s dwindling beer orders during the past few months.
Thursdays — paydays at the shipyard — meant Adams would leave with more than $100 in tips. But in the past few months, her tips have taken a hit. Last Thursday she left with $14.
That kind of drastic drop in sales already has led some once-prosperous businesses to close.
Ray Barrios first opened his restaurant, B&R Restaurant, across the road from the shipyard in 1968. As the only business around at the time, he was very successful. Over the years, he lost some of his income to new businesses that moved in down the street. But it’s the past year’s layoffs that really crushed his restaurant. In December, he had to close.
Now Barrios spends his days in his pickup truck outside the shuttered building, selling parking spaces to the shipyard workers.
“Another 41 were laid off today,” Barrios said a little more than a week ago, while counting money in his truck. “It affects everybody, no doubt about it. What’s gonna happen? Northrup Gumman’s not saying nothing to nobody. Everybody’s wondering, nobody knows.”
At one time Barrios could say he was the first of many businesses to open near the shipyard. Now, he can include that his business was also the first of many to close.
“Pretty soon, all that’s going to be gone,” he said, gesturing toward a few convenience stores, bars and restaurants down the road.
Since he closed, Barrios has been having trouble selling his property, and he’s not alone. With homes being seized by lenders almost every week and the shipyard’s looming demise, property values have plummeted, according to local real estate brokers. One homeowner had to lower his home’s price from $80,000 to $60,000 in the past two years.
“My business won’t die because of Avondale closing because I’ll just move around,” said Shelly Vallee, a broker who works in the area for All Around Realty LLC. “But the Avondale area, it’s not gonna be pretty. The only people buying right now are investors. It’s gonna be a total rental town.”
Literally “kicked to the curb.”
Uncle Sam seems determined to get into all kinds of businesses which used to be the exclusive province of the private market.
News Hub: Uncle Sam As Your New Landlord?
July 22, 2011
WSJ’s Nick Timiraos reports the Obama administration is weighing the possibility of getting into the housing rental business by renting foreclosed homes. AP Photo/David Zalubowski
The journalists seemed to miss the important point that by siphoning off potential future home purchase demand, Uncle Sam the landlord will drive another stake through the heart of home prices.
But I guess they can still prop up prices, whether or not there are any buyers over the next few years…
Where are the constitution-thumpers when we need them to say that federal government cannot get into the rental business?
It’s ridiculous, isn’t it? None of the usual rules seem to apply when real estate interests are in play.
Didn’t McCain float a similar idea during election that he would buy all the foreclosed homes or something like that?
Change you can believe in…….
yeah it was some crazy idea like $100 billion or so to buy up distressed houses. McCain’s as bad as any socialist.
This seems a bit like watching a ginormous asteroid close in for a completely predictable impact with Planet Earth.
Once-patient markets now nervous about debt talks
By BEN WHITE | 7/24/11 1:13 PM EDT
NEW YORK - Global markets were poised on a knife’s edge Sunday as Washington remained locked in partisan battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling, with no final deal in sight.
High level administration officials wanted a deal to raise the $14.3 trillion borrowing limit in place by Sunday afternoon before markets opened for the trading day in Asia. But as the day ground on with politicians exchanging fire on the Sunday talk shows, the prospects of such a deal seemed grim.
In the interim, Obama administration officials have begun exploring what would happen without a deal in place — opening discussions with Wall Street banks regarding what would happen to upcoming Treasury auctions if the debt ceiling is not raised, people familiar with the matter said.
And the Federal Reserve has been in discussions regarding what it will do if there is not enough money in the federal government’s accounts on Aug. 3 to send out $20 billion in Social Security checks and other payments.
Initial market reaction will begin to show up around 5 p.m. on the East Coast as currencies start trading in Asia, followed by futures contracts that predict how markets will open in Europe and the United States. A clear picture of market reaction will emerge by late Sunday evening on the East Coast.
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The US gov has always been a buyer of goods and services.
ALL governments are.
Republicans are prepared to “go it alone” on the debt ceiling outcome.
Pottery Barn Rules will come into play once again (”You broke it, you bought it”).
ECONOMY
JULY 24, 2011, 2:07 P.M. ET
Still No Deal as Market Openings Loom
By CAROL E. LEE, NAFTALI BENDAVID and BILL TOMSON
WASHINGTON—Congressional leaders didn’t have a deal to cut the budget deficit and raise the government’s debt limit early Sunday and remained at an impasse over how to reach one just hours before the open of Asian financial markets.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said a “two-stage” proposal being pushed by House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) that would lift the federal debt ceiling through the end of the year and then again after another deficit debate was a nonstarter because it wouldn’t win enough Democratic votes to pass Congress. He said leaders needed to find a way to reach the framework of an agreement that would give the markets confidence by Sunday night.
“They need to get this process moving in the House Monday night. To achieve that deadline they need to have a framework that they know with complete confidence that will pass both houses of Congress, that is acceptable to the president and that should happen today,” Mr. Geithner said in an interview on ABC’s “This Week.”
“The eyes of the world are on us,” Mr. Geithner said.
Mr. Boehner, however, said in an interview on Fox News Sunday that if he can’t reach an agreement with House Democrats on a deal, then Republicans will go it alone. “I’m trying to find a common ground that’s doable in the time we have remaining,” Mr. Boehner said.
Adding another twist to a debate going down to the wire, Messrs. Boehner and Geithner signaled that back on the table was a potentially more far-reaching deal—the one the speaker had been negotiating with President Barack Obama and that collapsed Friday night.
“It may be pretty hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but my last offer is still out there,” Mr. Boehner said. Mr. Boehner said he had agreed to $800 billion in additional revenue through changes in the tax code as part of the more ambitious $3.5 trillion plan. “Last Sunday, I thought there was an agreement of $800 billion in new revenue coming from a flatter, fairer tax system,” he said.
Mr. Geithner said the White House never agreed to $800 billion. Mr. Obama wanted $400 billion more. In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Mr. Geithner said Mr. Obama’s preference was still the so-called grand bargain he had been trying to strike with Mr. Boehner, and that talks continued.
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How would forcing Obama into a position to either veto or lose face possibly reassure Asian markets? This is a patently crazy idea.
Republicans Weigh Short-Term Debt Deal, Risking Obama Veto
July 24, 2011, 1:47 PM EDT
By Margaret Talev and Julie Hirschfeld Davis
July 24 (Bloomberg) — Republicans prepared to force action on a shorter-term extension of the U.S. debt limit than President Barack Obama has requested, defying a veto threat amid warnings that continued stalemate risks roiling financial markets as soon as tonight.
The president would veto a measure to raise the debt ceiling if it doesn’t extend the limit into 2013, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Daley warned that “markets around the world” would react negatively to a short-term measure offering less than $2.4 trillion in borrowing authority.
“We’ve got to get past this debt-ceiling vote,” Daley said. “It’s time to get some certainty.”
House Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said while he’d prefer a compromise package, his party was “prepared to move on our own” if that proved impossible. He aims to announce a framework — bipartisan or not — later today to try to minimize uncertainty before Asian markets open, he said on Fox News.
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It’s a 4-4 tie between “yesses” and “nos” among San Diego economics experts on whether the GOP’s “cut, cap and balance” budget and debt plan would be good for the economy.
Tying down the federal government with a balanced budget requirement during a period of severe labor market weakness sounds to me like a terrible idea, but I suppose as long as the GOP leaders can shift blame for the bad job market to Obama over the next 16 months, it is no skin off their backs.
U-T EconoMeter
Is GOP budget plan good for the economy?
6 a.m., July 23, 2011
Is the House Republicans’ “cut, cap and balance” budget and debt plan a good economic approach to the federal government’s fiscal problems?
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Alan Gin, University of San Diego
No
The deficit is a long-term concern, but the more immediate concern is the weakening economic recovery. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke warned about “sharp cuts in the very near term because of the potential impact on the recovery.” The cap on expenditures to 18 percent of GDP will ultimately require either severe cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and national defense or else the gutting of virtually everything else in the federal budget. The 2/3 majority requirement to increase taxes in this measure effectively eliminates that as an option to close the deficit at a time when federal revenue as a percent of GDP is at the lowest level since 1950.
James Hamilton, UC San Diego
No
The last thing we want to do in the current situation is drastically reduce government spending. That would mean less income for those currently working for or contracting with the public sector. I agree that several years down the road we will need to make those adjustments, but the time to do that is when there are private-sector jobs available to take up the slack from reduced public spending. I also think that right now, with all the uncertainty about the European sovereign debt situation, is a terrible time to be playing political games with the debt ceiling and the possibility of a U.S. default. The situation could turn very ugly very quickly.
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San Diego Union-Tribune reader poll results*:
Thanks for your vote.
Yes 30%
No 69%
*Note that San Diego is generally viewed as a GOP stronghold.
I don’t see how this can possibly end well.
Debt brinkmanship goes down to the wire
By Stephen Dinan
1:22 p.m., Sunday, July 24, 2011
Racing an afternoon deadline, House Speaker John A. Boehner said Sunday morning he was still working to put together a debt deal that could win bipartisan support, but said if that’s impossible he’ll introduce a short-term debt increase and spending cuts to get the government over its Aug. 2 hurdle.
Fanning out across the Sunday political talk shows, Mr. Boehner and other Washington leaders continued to stake out positions that seem at odds with each other: The White House insisted any plan raise the debt limit beyond the 2012 election and include tax increases, while the GOP said the focus should be on spending cuts.
“I would prefer to have a bipartisan approach to solve this problem. If that is not possible, I and my Republican colleagues in the House are prepared to move on our own,” Mr. Boehner, Ohio Republican, told “Fox News Sunday.”
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Republicans said they’re likely to produce an increase that would last through the end of the year, pass it through the House and then challenge Senate Democrats to reject it or Mr. Obama to veto it.
Republicans said they doubted the president would follow through on his veto threat.
“I think that’s a ridiculous position, because that’s what he’s going to get presented with,” Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, told “Meet the Press.” “That’s the compromise way through that’s going to build the compromise.”
Republicans also repeatedly pointed to the plan the House has passed to tie a debt ceiling increase to deep spending cuts and a promise that a balanced budget amendment be proposed for the Constitution.
Republican debt ceiling negotiating strategy:
1) Offer the President a deal which he said outright he could not accept.
2) Blame the President when he doesn’t accept it.
3) Hope the U.S. electorate is not sufficiently astute to grasp the cynical and destructive nature of the Republican strategy, and instead blames the failed outcome on the President.
Administration, GOP clash anew over debt plan
Posted: Jul 24, 2011 2:10 AM PDT
Updated: Jul 24, 2011 11:41 AM PDT
By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - With the clock ticking ever louder, Obama administration officials and congressional Republicans clashed anew Sunday over extending the nation’s debt limit, with the White House threatening a veto if the government’s borrowing authority is not extended through the next elections.
Even so, with an eye toward nervous financial markets, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the two sides seem to be making progress in their long-running debt battle and predicted they will avert a historic federal default.
“It’s unthinkable that this country will not meet its obligations on time. It’s just unthinkable. We never do that. It’s not going to happen,” Geithner said.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, flatly rejected President Barack Obama’s insistence on a package that would extend the government’s authority to borrow money beyond the November 2012 presidential and congressional elections. Democratic congressional leaders have also said the extension must last through next year.
“I know the president’s worried about the next elections,” Boehner said. “But my God, shouldn’t we be worried about the country?”
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Dump the Dollar
May 31, 2011
U.S. economic policy is debasing the dollar, says Axel Merk, manager of the Merk Hard Currency Fund. He tells investors to avoid the greenback and focus instead on countries with strong currencies, such as Sweden and Canada.
This view of the debt ceiling negotiations from across the pond offers some welcome levity:
Economics
Vince Cable launches attack on ‘right wing nutters’ over US debt deal
Vince Cable, the business secretary, has attacked ‘right-wing nutters’ in the US Congress for rejecting a debt deal, saying they pose a bigger threat to the world economy than the eurozone crisis.
Mr Cable’s comments (pictured) came as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner insisted on Sunday that America would not default on its debts. Photo: REX FEATURES
5:22PM BST 24 Jul 2011
The comments by Mr Cable, who is one of the most outspoken members of Britain’s coalition government, came as President Barack Obama vied with Republican lawmakers for a deal to avert an unprecedented debt default.
“The irony of the situation at the moment, with markets opening tomorrow morning, is that the biggest threat to the world financial system comes from a few right-wing nutters in the American Congress rather than the eurozone,” Cable told the BBC’s Andrew Marr on Sunday.
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It’s coming from a guy whose government not long ago went thru a sizable austerity.
He’s also seen the failure of that austerity. Britain has had close to zero growth since October.
markets opening tomorrow
Is that what the politicians supposed to do? Do whatver market wants. Who cares about the corrupt and manipulated markets anyway? All our politicians been pleasing the markets so these years. What did that get us? Time for a change now!
So the market dives for a few days and that puts a fire under the negotionations and then it rockets back up and makes up the difference. Yawn. I’ve seen this movie enough times w/Greece to know how it ends.
That sounds like a good buying oppurtunity.
So far it seems like the Asian markets are yawning over the failure to reach a debt ceiling agreement… not the end of the world as predicted.
July 24, 2011 7:21 pm
Markets warning over US debt
By Alan Beattie in Washington
The White House clashed again on Sunday with congressional Republicans over a plan to raise the federal debt ceiling, even as both sides acknowledged that failure to agree could rock global financial markets this week.
“We may have a few stressful days coming up - stressful for the markets of the world and the American people,’’ Bill Daley, White House chief of staff, told CBS on Sunday.
Both the Republican congressional leadership and the White House said that rapid agreement is needed to prevent a potential loss of confidence in US assets, but continued to push their own solutions.
John Boehner, speaker of the House of Representatives, reiterated his support for a two-stage deal, with an initial stopgap agreement to reassure investors and more fundamental reform left until later.
‘’There is going to be a two-stage process. It is not physically possible to do all of this in one step,” he told Fox News. He would seek to gain cross-party support for the proposal but was prepared to drive it forward over Democratic opposition if required, he said.
But Barack Obama’s administration, which has repeatedly said that the president would veto a partial deal, said that a temporary fix risked a loss of confidence and a downgrade in the US’s credit rating.
Mr Daley accused the Republicans of taking risks with the US’s international standing.
“It must be extended in a way that gives certainty to the economy through [2013] and not some short-term gimmick where we’re right back in this fix in six or eight months and the world looks at us once again and says . . . these people can’t get their act together,’’ he told NBC.
The debt ceiling, which constrains US federal borrowing, must be raised by August 2 to avoid the risk that the US will default on its government debt.
Both sides continued their attempts to shift the blame on to the other on Sunday.
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It is very important to keep this crisis in proper perspective: Namely, that it was manufactured and executed by the Republicans in a cynical attempt to send the U.S. economy back into a recession just before the 2012 presidential election.
TIMELINE-How U.S. debt talks spiraled into crisis
July 24 | Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:21pm EDT
(Reuters) - With financial markets on edge, White House officials and Republican leaders scrambled to reassure them that the United States will avert default and lift its $14.3 trillion borrowing limit before Aug. 2.
Following is a timeline of the U.S. debt debate:
Nov. 2, 2010 - Republicans win control of the House of Representatives on a promise to scale back government spending and tackle budget deficits that have hovered at their highest levels relative to the economy since World War Two.
Dec. 1, 2010 - A report by a bipartisan deficit reduction panel commissioned by Obama advocates $3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in revenue increases — mainly by closing loopholes in the tax code — over 10 years.
January 2011 - Six Republican and Democratic senators, known as the “Gang of Six,” begin talks on a long-term deficit-reduction deal they can present to their parties.
Feb. 19 - The House passes a budget for the current fiscal year that would cut $61 billion from last year’s levels. The Democratic-controlled Senate defeats it one month later.
April 9 - Obama and congressional leaders bring the government to the brink of a shutdown before they agree on a budget for the current fiscal year that cuts $38 billion from last year’s levels. Billed as the largest domestic spending cut in U.S. history, it actually causes the government to spend $3.2 billion more in the short term.
April 13 - After Obama’s initial proposal is criticized as inadequate, the president lays out a new deficit-reduction plan that would save $4 trillion over 12 years. He proposes that Vice President Joe Biden lead deficit-reduction talks.
April 15 - The House passes a budget that would cut spending by $6 trillion over 10 years, in part by scaling back medical care for the elderly and the poor.
May 5 - Biden and negotiators from both parties hold their first meeting as top Republicans say there will likely be no broad agreement on tax reform and healthcare.
May 9 - House Speaker John Boehner, the top Republican in Congress, says any increase in the debt ceiling must be matched by an equal amount of spending cuts. The Treasury Department estimates it needs at least $2 trillion to cover borrowing through the November 2012 elections.
May 11 - House Republicans release a spending outline for the coming fiscal year that has deep cuts in education, labor and health programs cherished by Democrats.
May 16 - The United States reaches its $14.3 trillion debt limit. The Treasury Department begins tapping other sources of money to cover the government’s bills.
May 17 - The “Gang of Six” talks falter as a leading conservative, Republican Senator Tom Coburn, drops out due to an impasse over healthcare.
May 31 - The House of Representatives rejects a measure to raise the debt limit in a vote staged by Republicans to pressure Obama to agree to accompanying spending cuts. Senior Democrats decry the vote as a political stunt, although 82 Democratic lawmakers join Republicans in defeating the bill.
June 9 - In a sixth meeting of the Biden group, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner argues that tax increases need to be part of the equation, but Republicans remain unmoved.
June 14 - Some 34 Senate Republicans vote to repeal tax breaks for ethanol, a sign that there may be some wiggle room in the party’s no-tax-increase stance.
June 23 - Republicans declare an impasse in the Biden talks, saying Democrats are insisting on roughly $400 billion in new revenue by closing tax breaks for the wealthy and certain business sectors.
June 29 - The International Monetary Fund says the United States must lift its debt limit soon to avoid a “severe shock” to global markets and a still-fragile economic recovery. Obama calls for new steps to spur job growth and tax hikes on the rich, irking Republicans who remain focused on deficit cuts.
June 30 - Democratic legislators discuss a scaled-back deal that would avert default but force Congress to tackle the debt ceiling issue again before the 2012 elections. The White House rejects the idea.
July 3 - Obama and Boehner meet secretly to discuss “grand bargain” that would save roughly $4 trillion over 10 years through a tax code overhaul and trims to benefit programs.
July 5 - Obama invites top lawmakers to the White House to restart negotiations and clinch a deal by July 22.
July 7 - After hosting lawmakers at White House, Obama says Republicans and Democrats are still far apart on many issues but that all agree on the need to raise the debt ceiling.
July 8 - A dismal jobs report focuses new attention on the sputtering economy. Obama says uncertainty about the debt ceiling talks is hurting economic expansion.
July 9 - Boehner says grand bargain is out of reach because Republicans will not accept the tax increases Democrats are demanding. He calls for a more modest $2 trillion package that would rely mostly on spending cuts.
July 10 - During a testy, brief meeting at the White House, Obama and congressional leaders agree on little more than the need to meet again the following day.
July 11 - Their follow-up meeting breaks little new ground, but Obama pressures both Democrats and Republicans to make concessions that would clear the way for a deal.
July 12 - Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell offers backup plan for raising the debt limit if there is no agreement on a broad deficit-reduction plan. Obama warns if the impasse is not resolved soon, government benefits for older Americans might be at risk after Aug. 2.
July 13 - Moody’s Investors Service puts United States on review for possible downgrade. Obama meets lawmakers for nearly two hours but a deal remains elusive.
July 14 - Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s says there is a one-in-two chance it could cut the U.S. credit rating if talks remain stalemated. Obama suspends talks and gives party leaders 24-36 hours to deliver a deadlock-breaking “plan of action.”
July 17 - McConnell and Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid work on a fallback plan to allow Obama to raise the debt limit. Obama meets Boehner and his deputy, Eric Cantor, secretly at White House but no progress is made toward a deal.
July 18 - Republicans push for a measure that would cut and cap government spending and require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution requiring a balanced budget. Obama says he will veto it should Congress send it to his desk.
July 19 - The “Gang of Six” resurfaces with a deficit reduction plan that proposes $3.75 trillion in savings over 10 years and contains $1.2 trillion in new revenues. Obama seizes on it and calls on Congress leaders to start “talking turkey.”
July 20 - The White House signals Obama may accept a very short-term debt limit extension beyond Aug. 2 to give a deficit cutting bill time to clear Congress. Obama meets separately with top Democratic and Republican lawmakers.
July 21 - Obama and Boehner are reported to be discussing a $3 trillion deficit-cutting deal that upsets many Democrats for not including enough tax rises to offset spending cuts. Obama repeats some revenues will need to be part of any accord.
July 22 - Boehner breaks off talks with Obama over impasse on revenue increases. Boehner says agreed to $800 billion in increases but that Obama was seeking $400 billion more.
July 23 - After a brief meeting with Obama, Democratic and Republican leaders disagree over whether the debt limit can be lifted in one step or two. Obama wants to extend the borrowing authority through the 2012 election year.
July 24 - With financial markets growing edgy, Boehner says raising the debt ceiling and enacting fiscal reforms should be done in two stages. Geithner says it must be raised to last 18 months to keep 2012 campaigning from further threatening the U.S. credit rating. (Reporting by Laura MacInnis, Andy Sullivan and Caren Bohan; Editing by Christopher Wilson and Paul Simao)
I fully expect the Plunge Protection Team to intervene as necessary to stabilize the market, in the unfortunate event no debt ceiling agreement is reached today. And I note that the DJIA is up by 26% over last summer’s low point (10K), which gives lots of breathing room for a near-term setback.
Wall St Week Ahead: Markets edgy on debt talk stalemate
Analysis & Opinion
By Edward Krudy
NEW YORK | Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:03pm EDT
(Reuters) - Much of the United States may be frying in near-record temperatures but Wall Street has been feeling the heat for months. Wrangling over the debt ceiling has kept markets on edge, and investors are still waiting for a breakthrough that leads to a deal to avoid a devastating default.
Investors have viewed as extremely unlikely the possibility of a U.S. default if the federal government does not agree to raise the debt ceiling. But the odds are growing, and Congress and the White House remained at odds just a few hours before Asian markets opened on Monday.
“Unless during the course of the day there is a specific, concrete proposal that placates the market before Asian markets open, the worst-case scenario is that the markets just sell off — sell off dramatically,” said Quincy Krosby, market strategist at Prudential Financial in Newark, New Jersey.
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Diary of a Recession Baby Archives
May 2, 2011, 2:07 p.m. EDT
Burned out at work? Tips to ease your workload
By Ruth Mantell, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Given all of the work that’s been piled on employees at leanly staffed companies during the weak economy, it’s understandable that some workers want to scale back.
Almost four in 10 workers said one of the most important attributes they will look for in a new employer is a less-stressful work environment, besides competitive pay and benefits, according to a survey of more than 5,000 workers and 2,000 employers conducted in February and March by jobs website CareerBuilder.com.
But with unemployment still high, employees may be wary about talking to their boss about working less.
“The recession resulted in smaller staffs, heavier workloads and longer hours. While companies have become accustomed to doing more with less, workers may be feeling stretched too thin,” said Jennifer Grasz, a spokeswoman for CareerBuilder.com. “As the economy improves, workers are growing more confident in their job prospects and are seeking out opportunities with more manageable workloads and better work-life balance.”
Burned out
To some extent, employers know there’s an issue. In December, CareerBuilder.com asked more than 2,000 employers if productivity levels could last this year, and 16% said: “No, workers are already burned out.”
Meanwhile, most employees have been willing to be somewhat flexible because they are trying to accommodate their employer’s hopefully temporary financial problems, said Ford Myers, a career coach in Haverford, Pa.
With unemployment still high, some are afraid of losing their jobs. “There’s this dynamic of fear that someone will take my job if I don’t do it,” said Andrea Kay, a Cincinnati-based career consultant. “They know it’s not good that they are burned out, but they just don’t know what else to do.”
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Debt Crisis Update: No Deal Likely by 4 p.m.
July 24, 2011 3:34 PM
Asian markets? They are on their own. A Republican source tells ABC News negotiators do not expect to have a deal or even the framework of a deal on the debt ceiling by 4 p.m. today, as House Speaker John Boehner had said he wanted to steady jittery Asian markets when they open.
In fact, the source says a deal today is now looking unlikely.
The principals are speaking over the phone while the staffs work on the numbers. Congressional Democrats and Republicans continue to try to hash out a compromise, but they are not there yet.
Separately, the source says that the big “grand bargain” now looks, once again, to be “pretty dead” — not buried yet, but not really breathing either. Despite the positive comments by Boehner and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner this morning, the large deficit reduction plan seems to be too much, too late to accomplish by the Aug. 2 deadline.
“A deal is still elusive,” said one top House Republican.
Geithner: Default Jeopardizes 80M Monthly Payments
By IBTimes Staff Reporter | July 24, 2011 4:12 PM EDT
U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner reiterated Sunday that if Congress does not raise the U.S. debt ceiling up to 80 million federal payments and checks this month — including Social Security payments — will be jeopardized.
“Only Congress has the ability to make sure the American people get their payments on time,” Geithner said on “Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace.”
“We write 80 million checks a month,” Geithner said, Fox News reported Sunday. “There are millions and millions of Americans that depend on those checks coming on time. Not just people that supply our military, but people who get Social Security benefits, Medicare, Medicaid benefits. And we cannot put those payments at risk, and we do not have the ability to limit the damage on them, if Congress fails to act in time.”
As of Sunday at 4 p.m. EDT, Congressional Republicans and the Obama administration still had not reached an agreement on how much to cut the budget deficit by, while increasing the nation’s debt ceiling.
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There is something wrong with a country that would be paralyzed by the delay of 80 million checks.
So is tomorrow the new unofficial deadline on debt ceiling negotiations? I thought a deal had to be in place by today in order for Asian markets to not implode?
Congress hopes to present debt package by Monday
Talks resume at the White House, where Obama and congressional leaders work on a Republican-backed plan to cut spending by $3 trillion in exchange for a vote on raising the debt ceiling.
By Kathleen Hennessey, Washington Bureau
July 24, 2011
Reporting from Washington—
Picking up the pieces after the latest round of debt negotiations imploded, congressional leaders met Saturday with President Obama and began work on a Republican-backed plan to cut spending by roughly $3 trillion over 10 years in exchange for their vote to raise the debt ceiling, according to a leadership aide familiar with the deal.
Although the proposal still faced stiff hurdles with Democrats, House Speaker John A. Boehner — who abruptly broke off talks with the White House on Friday but was present Saturday — told GOP leaders in a conference call that he hoped to report significant progress, if not a deal, within 24 hours, according to a participant.
But as talks continued into the evening, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he was “deeply disappointed in the status of the negotiations” with Republicans. At issue is whether Republicans will agree to raise the debt ceiling through the end of 2012, as Obama has demanded.
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Embattled Boehner Says Bipartisan Debt Plan Must Be Republican Plan
24 July 2011
In a bizarre interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, House Speaker John Boehner appeared embattled, distracted and without a firm grip on any solution to the debt ceiling crisis. He seemed to be unable to speak about the debt ceiling crisis in any truthful manner, repeatedly attacking Pres. Obama for not being willing to make a deal, despite Obama offering far more than any president, Democratic or Republican, in debt and deficit reduction, in fact offering far more than Boehner himself was seeking.
Boehner seemed to be bound by certain hostile factions within his caucus, and insisted that he would not accept any plan that was not some variation of “cut, cap and balance.” He appeared frustrated, even shaken, by the failure the House Republican plan—crafted with no consultation with Democratic members of either chamber—failed to pass the Senate.
Wallace reminded him: “The Senate resoundingly tabled the idea of a balanced budget amendment; you’re not going to insist on that again, are you?” Boehner repeated, almost robotically, that he would insist, come what may, on a “framework” based on “cut, cap and balance”, Boehner refused to answer whether he would attempt to force a balanced budget amendment—which, incidentally, could not be made law by August 2 and would, in and of itself, do literally nothing to reduce debt or deficits—as part of a bipartisan framework.
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Tea Party uses debt ceiling vote to destroy democracy
Washington : DC : USA | Jul 24, 2011
What the Bush tax cuts did to the deficit
Without the Bush tax cuts for the rich, America’s debt ceiling problems would be solved
The debate over whether to throw the US into default by not raising the debt ceiling is not about what is best for the country. Tea Party Republicans have created the potential financial crisis to advance a radical social agenda that ignores the will of the people. The end result is the destruction of democracy.
Since taking control of the House of Representatives and dozens of governorships, Tea Party Republicans have used their new found power to strip union rights, voter’s rights, repeal child labor laws, abortion rights, roll back of environmental, worker safety, banking regulations, and programs for the poor.
In exchange for budget cuts that benefit millions of Americans, the Tea Party Republicans want to make the country’s problems worse by giving any and all budget savings to about 400,000, who represent the top 2% of the wealthiest Americans.
The debt ceiling has been raised 91 times since 1960, under both democratic and republican presidents.
So why is the Tea Party so determined to take the country backward under terrorists-type threats to destroy the economy?
Republican Senate Minority Leader said it best. “We’ve tried elections. Nothing has worked.”
In other words, if America will not do things the way the radical right wants, the GOP will use their power to force their social agenda on the public through any means necessary - even if it means ruining the lives of millions of people.
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“…even if it means ruining the lives of millions of people”
Armageddon threat again?
Getting so tired of this.
Some of the Republicans think that a default will be no big deal.
Another bunch knows that it will be a big deal, but think the “pain” (inflicted mainly upon people who aren’t voting for Republicans) will be “worth it”.
(”Worth it” meaning, among other things, making Obama a one-term president.)
Another bunch believes that a Greater Depression is what the country “deserves”.
Finally, a small group of Republicans think it will be a disaster for the Republicans, and the country. They are outnumbered by Groups 1, 2, and 3.
For whatever reason, Republicans think that Obama is the AntiChrist (some actually believe this literally), and are willing to throw a bunch of US citizens under the bus to assure that outcome.
My recommendation: Obama resigns, if a default occurs.
The Republican plan for 2012 depends on him being in office. If the economy swirls down the toilet, at least there won’t be any doubt as to who is to blame.
http://www.kitco.com/market/
“Barbaric relic” (gold) hitting all-time highs. No surprise, given the tsunami of unbacked fiat currency being printed by the Fed and Central banks, plus our profligate spending that has long since outstripped our shrinking tax base.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=190618
Tea Party laying down the law to Establishment GOP? I’m still expecting a craven capitulation from Boner & Co.
http://news.yahoo.com/anti-austerity-protesters-return-madrid-plaza-203840773.html
Anti-austerity anger building up in the PIIGS. Demonstrators are castigating politicians as uncaring, inept, and corrupt. Which the people of Spain should’ve thought about when they voted them into office.
Maybe they had the same problems we had?
Corrupt elections.
Not corrupt elections. A brain-dead electorate.
I can’t really tell whether 11:32 PM has passed or not in whatever time zone this article appeared?
US will not default, Treasury chief says
Published: 24/07/2011 at 11:32 PM
Online news: World
A top US official predicted on Sunday that the world’s leading economy would not default on its massive debt, as lawmakers grappled for a deal just hours before Asian markets were set to open.
The United States will not default on its debt, US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner (pictured) said, as the clock ticks down to reaching a deal by August 2 to raise the nation’s debt ceiling.
“It’s unthinkable we would not meet our obligations on time,” Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told CNN, with the eyes of the world on the bitter political in-fighting which has paralyzed Washington’s corridors of power.
“It’s not going to happen,” Geithner predicted, amid a warning from US ally Britain that “right-wing nutters” were posing a bigger threat to the world economy than the eurozone crisis.
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Metals Stocks Archives
July 24, 2011, 8:44 p.m. EDT
Gold hits fresh record as U.S. debt talks grind on
By Virginia Harrison, MarketWatch
SYDNEY(MarketWatch) — Gold futures hit a fresh record in electronic trading Monday, as U.S. debt-ceiling talks to avert a default continued, with no apparent progress toward a deal.
Gold for August delivery GC1Q +0.61% gained $16.30, or 1.0% to $1,617.70 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange during Asian trading hours.
Last week gold reached a nominal record of $1,602.50 an ounce.
Adjusted for inflation, gold would have to settle at around $2,400 an ounce to supplant a record around $850 an ounce reached in January 1980.
The metal has benefited from the uncertainty stemming from global debt problems in recent weeks, with the deadlock in U.S.negotiations taking center stage on Monday.
U.S. lawmakers failed to reach agreement on an approach to raise the debt-ceiling in Washington on Sunday, despite a weekend of talks. President Barack Obama later met with the congressional leaders of his own party.
The $14.3 trillion debt ceiling needs to be raised by Aug. 2 or the government is at risk of defaulting on its obligations. Read more on U.S. debt negotiations.
Analysts at MF Global said the lack of resolution in U.S. debt-ceiling talks will weigh on the U.S. dollar, and present upward potential for gold.
“Raising the debt ceiling in such last-minute fashion relays [an] unwelcome message to investors,” the analysts said, “The main casualty of such a decision will be the US dollar.”
Commodities should do better, at least initially, they said, as the asset class will be viewed as an alternative to paper currencies.
“Gold should benefit the most,” they said.
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It appears the Tea Party may have succeeded in their efforts to destroy the U.S. Treasury’s AAA credit rating.
Treasuries Fall After El-Erian Says U.S. May Lose AAA Rating
Sunday, July 24, 2011
July 25 (Bloomberg) — Treasuries fell, extending a decline from last week, after Mohamed A. El-Erian at Pacific Investment Management Co. said the U.S. may lose its AAA debt rating even if lawmakers reach a plan to avoid a default.
Benchmark yields approached a two-week high as El-Erian, whose company runs the world’s biggest bond fund, said a compromise on raising the borrowing limit this close to the Aug. 2 deadline will leave the rating “extremely vulnerable.” President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner are in a stalemate over how to increase the ceiling, a step needed for the U.S. to keep servicing its debt.
“We don’t know how long it will take to reach an agreement,” said Hiroki Shimazu, an economist in Tokyo at SMBC Nikko Securities Inc., a unit of Japan’s third-largest publicly traded bank by assets. “It will push yields higher.”
The rate on the 10-year note climbed four basis points to 3 percent as of 10:01 a.m. in Tokyo, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader pricing. The 3.125 percent security due in May 2021 declined 11, or $3.44 per $1,000 face amount, to 101 1/32.
The yield increased six basis points last week and climbed to 3.04 percent on July 21, the highest since July 11. It is still below the 10-year average of 4.06 percent.
“In most likelihood, a last-minute political compromise will avoid a default but will leave the AAA rating extremely vulnerable,” El-Erian, the Newport Beach, California-based chief executive officer and co-chief investment officer at Pimco, wrote in an e-mail.
Boehner plans to press ahead with a shorter-term increase in the borrowing ceiling than President Obama has requested, he told lawmakers, defying a veto threat and signaling continued deadlock in the Congress as time runs short for an agreement.
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TheMoneyIllusion
A demographic depression
When I read the newspapers from the 1930s I’d occasionally see hopeful articles about how consumer spending would have to pick up soon, because of all the “pent-up” demand. If people hadn’t been buying cars for a while then presumably their cars would wear out, and this would trigger new demand for replacements. Of course I knew that there actually was no light at the end of the tunnel, which made these articles seem slightly pathetic—as if they were grasping for straws. They overlooked the fact that the depression made America much poorer, and that low consumer demand reflected that poverty. For similar reasons, there isn’t much “pent up demand” for cars in Somalia, despite low sales in recent years.
Sometimes I see this argument applied to the housing slump. Housing construction is down 70%, to levels far lower than at any time in post-war history (relative to population.) And this slump has been going on for a number of years. Surely we’ll soon need to build more houses, to meet our growing population. If only that were true. Unfortunately, as sharply as housing construction has fallen, household formation has fallen even faster.
Jim Glass sent me some very interesting data on household formation, which casts a very different light on the recent housing crash.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that light at the end of the tunnel is an onrushing train called falling household formation. It’s caused by three factors:
1. Less immigration due to the post-2006 crackdown.
2. Less immigration due to the severe recession and high unemployment
3. 20-somethings who can’t get jobs are living with their parents.
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It’s worse than stated above, as the article only considers household formation, not household destruction. But with the near-term retirement and mid-term demise of baby boomer households, household destruction will occur at a higher-than-”normal” rate for the next several decades.
All told, housing demand is toast over the foreseeable future. Good luck to the home builders and the Wall Street hacks who try to convince Rubes to buy their stocks!
Call me skeptical, but I will believe higher rates when I see them. It appears that long-term Treasury yields have achieved a permanently low plateau.
Op-Ed Columnist
Republicans, Zealots and Our Security
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: July 23, 2011
IF China or Iran threatened our national credit rating and tried to drive up our interest rates, or if they sought to damage our education system, we would erupt in outrage.
Well, wake up to the national security threat. Only it’s not coming from abroad, but from our own domestic extremists.
We tend to think of national security narrowly as the risk of a military or terrorist attack. But national security is about protecting our people and our national strength — and the blunt truth is that the biggest threat to America’s national security this summer doesn’t come from China, Iran or any other foreign power. It comes from budget machinations, and budget maniacs, at home.
House Republicans start from a legitimate concern about rising long-term debt. Politicians are usually focused only on short-term issues, so it would be commendable to see the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party seriously focused on containing long-term debt. But on this issue, many House Republicans aren’t serious, they’re just obsessive in a destructive way. The upshot is that in their effort to protect the American economy from debt, some of them are willing to drag it over the cliff of default.
It is not exactly true that this would be our first default. We defaulted in 1790. By some definitions, we defaulted on certain gold obligations in 1933. And in 1979, the United States had trouble managing payouts to some individual investors on time (partly because of a failure of word processing equipment) and thus was in technical default.
Yet even that brief lapse in 1979 raised interest payments in the United States. Terry L. Zivney, a finance professor at Ball State University and co-author of a scholarly paper about the episode, says the 1979 default increased American government borrowing costs by 0.6 of a percentage point indefinitely.
Any deliberate and sustained interruption this year could have a greater impact. We would see higher interest rates on mortgages, car loans, business loans and credit cards.
American government borrowing would also become more expensive. In February, the Congressional Budget Office noted that a 1 percentage point rise in interest rates could add more than $1 trillion to borrowing costs over a decade.
In other words, Republican zeal to lower debts could result in increased interest expenses and higher debts. Their mania to save taxpayers could cost taxpayers. That suggests not governance so much as fanaticism.
More broadly, a default would leave America a global laughingstock. Our “soft power,” our promotion of democracy around the world, and our influence would all take a hit. The spectacle of paralysis in the world’s largest economy is already bewildering to many countries. If there is awe for our military prowess and delight in our movies and music, there is scorn for our political/economic management.
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Professor Bear’s U.S. home construction industry outlook:
Gloom, doom, and destitution.
There has never been a better time to buy home builder shares!
EARNINGS
JULY 25, 2011
Is Housing-Market Squeeze Tightening?
By DAWN WOTAPKA
At the start of the year, home builders were cautiously optimistic about their prospects for 2011. Home prices were picking up, prompting some builders to buy additional land and start to plan new communities.
What a difference a few months can make. The spring buying season—typically the strongest season for home sales—ended with a thud. Builders are now backtracking on the land deals and some prices have started to fall again.
With the downturn in its fifth year, some building executives say they thought things would be better by now. After all, families with kids in elementary and middle school when the downturn hit now have teenagers on their hands, causing some entry-level family homes to bust at the seams. While some of those families are buying, many others are choosing to stay cramped up rather than move up.
“There have certainly been some bumps in the road,” said Doug Yearley, chief executive of Toll Bros. Inc., the nation’s largest luxury builder.
Mr. Yearley added that he, “and, I think, every other CEO in this business, are disappointed that we’re just not further along.”
Industry watchers will be paying close attention to a number of indicators and earnings due out this week. On Tuesday, the Census Bureau is scheduled to release sales of new homes for June. Economists generally expect sales to climb to an annual pace of 328,000. That would be up from May’s extremely weak level of 319,000 sales, but far away from 2005 when sales peaked at 1.3 million.
Also out this week are earnings reports from major home builders including PulteGroup Inc., D.R. Horton Inc. and Meritage Homes Corp.
One analyst said not to expect much. “Builders are going to disappoint investors because they’re going to continue to lose money,” said Alex Barron, a founder and analyst with the Housing Research Center, an independent research firm in El Paso, Texas.
Now comes more troubling news: NVR Inc., long considered the industry darling because it managed to earn money during the downturn, reported a weak second quarter on Thursday. Profit slid 46% from a year earlier, dragged down as home closings tumbled 34%.
Particularly concerning is what NVR’s results might say about the Washington, D.C., market. That is NVR’s home market, and it had been one of the nation’s strongest performers. Unlike much of the rest of the nation, house prices in Washington and its suburban Virginia and Maryland neighbors were rising and foreclosures in many communities were relatively low.
But NVR, based in Reston, Va., said orders declined in the mid-Atlantic region, which includes Maryland. According to Raymond James Equity Research, the Washington area’s existing-home sales slumped 19% from a year earlier in June, compared with 8.8% nationwide.
‘Builders are going to disappoint investors because they’re going to continue to lose money,’ says a Housing Research Center analyst.
Industry watchers are now trying to figure out whether NVR’s performance signals further pain ahead for housing, or if Washington-area buyers are simply nervous over the debt-ceiling debate and scared about the possibility of government layoffs.
Part of the problem is that the same head winds persist: Unemployment remains elevated, builders must compete with deeply discounted foreclosed properties for sales and tight bank lending standards are keeping plenty of would-be buyers out of the market.
“The new home-sales market will continue to be depressed” for at least another year, said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist with the Economic Outlook Group.
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Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election
By John Thorpe
Benzinga Staff Writer
July 21, 2011 1:07 PM
Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic, they will shake their fists and mutter one name: George Effin’ Bush.
Ironically, it won’t be for any of the things that liberals have been harping on the Bush Administration, either during or after his term in office. Sure, misguided tax cuts that destroyed the surplus, and lax regulations that doomed the economy, and two amazingly awful wars in deserts half a world away are all terrible, empire-sapping events. But they pale in comparison to what it appears the Republican Party did to get President Bush re-elected in 2004.
“A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio’s 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush,” according to Bob Fitrakis, columnist at http://www.freepress.org and co-counsel in the litigation and investigation.
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Parents are dropping out of the college cost fight
Students have protested throughout the state, but state colleges keep offering less and charging more.
Die-in
Students at Valley College, including Bear Christison, left center, and Julien Lambert, take part in a “die in” in March to protest state budget cuts’ effect on their educational opportunities. (Barbara Davidson, Los Angeles Times / July 23, 2011)
By Sandy Banks
July 23, 2011
It all came down to money this week on my return trip to San Francisco.
And there is good news and bad news in this.
The good news is that my daughter finally found a place to live. It’s a studio apartment, above a tavern, on a grimy stretch of a busy street. But it’s cheap and clean, with a real kitchen and a private bathroom, unlike the other prospects we’d seen.
And it’s a straight shot — one bus — to San Francisco State, where she will be a junior this fall.
That is where the bad news comes in. Her tuition will jump again — by about $600 — this fall. That’s the fourth tuition increase imposed by Cal State University trustees since 2009.
That hikes fees and tuition for classes to more than $6,000 a year, about $2,000 more than we expected when my youngest daughter enrolled as a freshman two years ago.
That’s double trouble for me. Her sister is a senior at Cal State Northridge, so our family is on the hook this year for $4,000 more than I budgeted back when an education in the Cal State system seemed like such a great idea.
That’s the personal toll of a public tragedy. State financing for higher education has been rolled back to levels unseen in years. This year’s budget cuts funding by 20%. That translates to $650 million less, and that has to be covered by somebody.
The poorest kids keep their financial aid; the richest write bigger checks. And the middle-class families get crushed in the crunch, relying on loans to cover the gap.
We can blame the economy, the trustees, the politicians, the citizenry’s lack of collective will.
What we can’t do is keep pretending we don’t see it.
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Private mortgage lenders could be the accidental beneficiaries of a debt default, as if Uncle Sam stepped aside, they would be the only game in town.
IN THE MARKET
Applying for a home mortgage could get complicated if U.S. government defaults
By G. Steven Bray
07.24.11 | 08:59 am
With the debt limit deadline looming, I thought it would be an interesting exercise to consider what happens to the mortgage market in the event Washington runs out of money.
Before we get into all the scary talk, let me say I think it’s unlikely our elected officials will fail to act before the deadline. But let’s go through the thought exercise anyway.
If you’re applying for a mortgage, the effects of a government shutdown depend on where you are in the process and the type of mortgage you are trying to get. Please understand this is educated speculation. Should a shutdown happen, anything is possible because I expect the politicians will manipulate the situation to their greatest political advantage (I am not a politician, and I don’t want to play one on TV).
If you’re applying for a conventional loan, a shutdown may have little direct impact on you. Most conventional loans are sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and, while they are wards of the state now, they still operate fairly independently. However, if your lender needs to verify your tax returns or social security number, you may be out of luck. I expect the IRS and Social Security Administration will not be considered essential government services.
The biggest hassle may be in store for those applying for FHA loans. I expect the White House will deem the Federal Housing Agency (FHA) a non-essential agency. You probably won’t be able to start or close an FHA loan.
If you’re applying for a Veteran’s Administration (VA) loan, you may be able to proceed as long as your lender has processed your VA paperwork (such as your Certificate of Eligibility) and has received the appraisal on your home. I expect the While House will deem the VA a non-essential agency, and, while many of their systems are online now, I expect they will take the Web sites offline while the agency is shut down. If you’re past this point in the process, you should be OK. A VA loan is a guaranteed loan, and the VA delegates underwriting to approved lenders. Thus, the lender closes the loan with its own funds and probably sells the loan into the mortgage market.
If you’re applying for a US Department of Agriculture Rural Development (USDA RD) loan, you may be OK if the loan has been approved. The USDA must review every RD loan, and this review occurs near the end of the process, after the lender has finished its underwriting of the loan. I expect the While House will deem the USDA a non-essential agency, so you’re stuck if the USDA hasn’t completed its review. If the loan is approved, I expect you’ll be able to close because an RD loan, like a VA loan, is a guaranteed loan.
The biggest hassle may be in store for those applying for FHA loans. I expect the White House will deem the Federal Housing Agency (FHA) a non-essential agency. You probably won’t be able to start or close an FHA loan. The FHA must issue a “case number” to start an FHA loan and, because FHA loans are insured loans, the FHA must issue an insurance certificate at closing. Any loans in process probably will grind to a halt until the shut down is over.
What might happen to interest rates if the government bumps up against the debt limit? I don’t claim to be clairvoyant, so I’ll turn to Michael Barr, a former Assistant Treasury Secretary for guidance. He suggests, based on past experience, the effect would be a short-term, modest increase in interest rates, less than 0.1%. However, he notes that many other factors cloud our current economic picture, and the combination could create unexpected effects.
While a government shut down could be a mess, you have to realize that there’s a really big difference between that and a government default. Despite all the political scare tactics, I think it’s VERY unlikely the government will choose to default on its debt. If the deadline passes without action, the government still will take in a lot of money, but it won’t be enough money to cover all its obligations. The government will have to prioritize its bills. If interest payments on the national debt are considered a priority, the government won’t default.
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