A Life’s Lesson In California
The Press Enterprise reports from California. “The midyear forecast update from the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp. predicts Riverside and San Bernardino counties will lose about 3,100 jobs in 2011. If the forecast holds up it would be the fourth consecutive year of lost jobs for Inland residents. The forecast, which goes against many of the predictions made by economists earlier in the year — including the LAEDC’s — is traced back to the region’s beleaguered housing market and the slow pace of recovery for construction jobs.”
“‘That’s one of the reasons I believe it could be a couple of years” before the Inland area sees any significant job growth,’ said Nancy D. Sidhu, the LAEDC’s chief economist. ‘A lot has to happen before the residential housing market becomes truly healthy.’”
“Sidhu said the disposition of distressed homes on the market is taking a long time, and other areas of California are in the same boat. Sacramento now has an economy that is considered weaker than the Inland area’s. In the Antelope Valley in northern Los Angeles County, which saw a housing boom similar to the Inland Empire’s a few years ago, 80 percent of all the homes sold are either foreclosures or short sales.”
The Press Democrat. “Foreclosures and short sales made up nearly nine of every 10 single-family homes sales last month in Lake County. For Sonoma County, the distressed sales rate was 51 percent, compared to 43 in June 2010. The rate for Mendocino County was 63 percent, compared to 32 percent a year earlier. Here is a sampling of the June distressed sales rates for other counties: Marin, 26 percent; Napa, 51 percent; Humboldt, 29 percent; Solano, 72 percent; Sacramento, 65 percent; and Madera, 83 percent.”
“A federal grand jury is sifting through the collapse of Sonoma Valley Bank and its use of taxpayer bailout money, part of a criminal probe examining loans the bank made to one of its largest borrowers. The bank repeatedly broke standard lending rules in its dealings with Marin County developer Bijan Madjlessi, his companies, his employees and his business associates, The Press Democrat discovered.”
“In 2009, the bank approved a $436,500 home loan for one of Madjlessi’s employees who had just defaulted on another real estate loan. Jennifer Irvine, who worked for Madjlessi at his condo development in west Santa Rosa, received a loan to purchase one of the units on Sebastopol Road just two months after she lost her Cloverdale home to foreclosure for defaulting on a $600,000 loan. The loan from Sonoma Valley Bank has not fallen into default, according to public records.”
From KFSN. “California realtors are calling on lenders to do more to prevent families from going into foreclosure. This after a recent survey found more than half of Central Valley realtors characterized closing short sale transactions as ‘difficult’ or ‘extremely difficult.’”
“Sal Valencia has been trying to short sell his Central Fresno home since August of 2009. Valencia said, ‘You can’t do anything if they aren’t willing to talk, not willing to respond, even acknowledge you. At the time there was a lot of things that changed in our lives that we couldn’t afford our home anymore,’ said Valencia.”
“Don Faught, California Association of Realtors said, ‘Californian’s are being victimized by a process that should be helping them.’ At a news conference outside Valencia’s home - a group of Central Valley realtors said he’s not alone - calling the short sale process ‘broken.’”
The North County Times. “With home values about equal to where they were in 2002, according to the Case-Shiller House Price Index, many borrowers find themselves wondering if they still want to make payments on a house worth 60 percent of what it was when they bought it. These borrowers can consider a short sale.”
“But often there’s a second lender, sometimes a down-payment loan or sometimes a home equity line of credit. If it was a purchase money loan, the second lender is hoping the first will give it a few thousand dollars in a short sale, because it will get nothing in a foreclosure. If the second is a recourse loan, then the foreclosure actually liberates the lender from having to accept the house in lieu of payment. They’re free to seek a judgement against the borrower for repayment of debt.”
“‘If I’m a second, I might say, ‘I’m not going to take 5 percent of the outstanding balance if I think the first is going to wipe me out. I can record that judgement, and 10 years down the road, we may be able to collect,’ said Escondido real estate attorney Eric Ginder.”
“There’s another open question when it comes to doing a short sale, which is whether or not it’s a good idea to stop making payments. No financial adviser, attorney, or real estate agent will advise someone to stop making payments because it violates ethical guidelines. But many will say —- and did say in interviews —- ‘If it were me, I’d stop making payments.’”
“Part of the problem is that lenders don’t always take hardship claims seriously if the borrower is still making payments, so they aren’t willing to do a short sale, said Joe Marcarelli, a San Diego bankruptcy attorney. But Marcarelli also said those trying to preserve a credit score and making payments needs to reconsider their priorities. ‘I don’t think you should let the credit tail wag the emergency finances dog,’ Marcarelli said. ‘Look: You’re upside down, you’re strapped, you have a noose around your neck.’”
“A Realtors group said Tuesday that North San Diego County house sales jumped by 5.8 percent in June when compared with the June 2010 figure ‘Buyers can only hold out so long before they ultimately buy,’ said Nathan Moeder, a real estate economist with The London Group, in an email.”
The Signal. “Excuse me while I dispense cigars like the proud father of a newborn, jitterbug down the sidewalk like the proverbial drunken sailor and disappear dancing over the horizon, clicking my heels while busting my lungs yelling, ‘Finally!’ Finally, consumers got the picture about local housing. Finally, buyers understood that this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to buy a home will not linger long.”
“The median price of single-family homes sold locally during June came in at $370,000. That’s up nearly 7 percent from the record low for this cycle, but it’s 42.5-percent below the record-high median of $643,000 set in April 2006. It’s questionable if we’ll ever see prices like that again, so for those who need a home and have adjusted to today’s reality, waiting to buy no longer makes sense. Not only has the price-bottom passed, but resale prices also are trending higher while interest rates on home loans have nowhere to go but up.”
The LA Times. “It is a small house on a small lot in Highland Park. I bought it in 2005 for $503,000, most of it borrowed, and lived there six years. The house was meant to be my refuge, a place where I could plant perennials and know I’d see them flower year after year, an investment for my daughter and me after many years of renting.”
“I made improvements. To help pay for the work, I refinanced in 2007 at $511,000 with a five-year fixed-interest first lien and a variable-rate equity loan. With the real estate market continuing to rise, a Wells Fargo Bank loan officer assured me, it would be easy to refinance to a fixed-rate loan before my rate went up in 2012.”
“By mid-2008, some neighbors on my short hillside street had started defaulting on their loans. One eventually negotiated a short sale; two others went into foreclosure. Worried, I called Wells Fargo in March 2009 to see about refinancing in advance of my adjustable-rate mortgage payments rising significantly. The house was already underwater, the banker told me. My equity was gone, so there was no way I could refinance. He suggested that I wait it out and hope things improved before the rate rise in 2012.”
“By October 2009, it was clear that the real estate market was only getting worse. On June 1, 2010, I acknowledged defeat. I declined to make my mortgage payment and two weeks later hired a short-sale expert and listed the house. Finally, in April, it agreed to an offer of $325,000 for the house. The sale closed less than 48 hours before the bank’s scheduled foreclosure sale.”
“I can’t find a life’s lesson here; no insight into why this has happened to so many people. The banks could help us, but they don’t. I will recover, but it’s unlikely I will ever own another house.”
The Half Moon Bay Review. “First-half sales results from the local real estate market seem like a Clint Eastwood movie with some good news, some bad news and some ugly news. Your interpretation will depend on whether you are a buyer, seller, Realtor, lender or tax collector. Summarizing the results: prices, inventory and mortgage rates are down. Volume, distressed sales and selling time are up.’
“The average home price for the coast now stands at $676,000, down 11 percent from the first half of last year and down 7 percent from full year 2010. Prices range from $93,500 for a cottage at Martin’s Beach to $1.95 million for horse property in Montara on five acres. Prices peaked in 2007 at $1,031,000 and are down 34 percent since then.”
The Voice of San Diego. “With $500,000, you could buy a house in many parts of San Diego. Or developers armed with taxpayer money could build a single affordable-housing apartment for poor people to live in, like a studio or a little one-bedroom. When it comes to wondering how much these apartments each cost, ‘people don’t even ask that question in San Diego,’ acknowledged Tony Young, the president of the City Council. ‘It’s not even an afterthought. The dynamic’s got to change.’”
“Many of our commenters are appalled. Writes one: ‘Only an insane person would say that a housing unit that costs in excess of $400,000.00 is AFFORDABLE HOUSING!’”
“I can’t find a life’s lesson here;…I will recover, but it’s unlikely I will ever own another house.”
Hey, hows about you settle for a 1/2 life’s le$$on?
Test Question #17:
Some people should never relinquish to the temptation to $pend $500,000+ for a $helter with room for perennial rate-adjustment blossom$.
1.True
2.False
Yeah, I could think of 10 or so without much effort. A house isn’t an investment. Don’t pay too much for a roof over your head. Loan officers aren’t responsible for bad advice. If you are looking around for the greater fool, it’s you. Etc…
As for being able to own a house again, get the govt out of the way and maybe you will.
“…get the govt out of the way…”
I remain deeply befuddled that the very people who have tried their best for decades to provide affordable housing now stand in the way of the market’s best attempts to deliver it.
Why the abrupt change of objectives?
Or why does the media let them get away with it? Nothing highlights this absurdity more than when some affordable housing project comes up. That would make a good weekend topic; what ever happened to the goal of affordable housing?
To start with, when DC means “affordable,” there is a reasonably good chance they mean the polar opposite of the dictionary definition.
why? because they’re all FBs themselves.
When you want to buy something, you want the price to be as low as possible. When you’ve already bought it, you want the price to be as high as possible.
There are a lot more people that already bought, than want to buy. It’s just pandering, really, and we are outnumbered.
By the way, the “affordable housing” in DC is those hundreds of row houses, which you now need two middle-class $45K incomes to buy.
Prices trending lower is logical (revision to the mean), etc. But every dollar they go down puts some other middle-class schmuck under water. Those people vote. If housing really becomes affordable, lots of people will be wiped out. I wouldn’t argue that it won’t happen anyway, but there is also some logic in at least letting it happen in slow motion. It’s easier to survive a roll down a hill than it is a fall off a cliff.
I can’t believe the LA Times allowed thier very own copy editor to admit she is clueless about real estate.
My unintentional irony detector is on high alert. (Not that perfect spelling is my forte.)
We the readers are supposed to identify, you know. Yes, we’re all so confused about this real estate stuff! *sniff*
“A Realtors group said Tuesday that North San Diego County house sales jumped by 5.8 percent in June when compared with the June 2010 figure ‘Buyers can only hold out so long before they ultimately buy,’ said Nathan Moeder, a real estate economist with The London Group, in an email.”
Oh, I see. It’s the BUYERS that are under lots of pressure because they can only hold out so long.
‘Buyers can only hold out so long before they ultimately buy,’ said Nathan Moeder, a real estate economist with The London Group, in an email.”
One must have food and shelter, but one doesn’t ever have to buy a house.
“…is traced back to the region’s beleaguered housing market and the slow pace of recovery for construction jobs.”
Is this still where they are placing hopes for recovery?
“‘That’s one of the reasons I believe it could be a couple of years” before the Inland area sees any significant job growth,’ said Nancy D. Sidhu, the LAEDC’s chief economist. ‘A lot has to happen before the residential housing market becomes truly healthy.’”
Give it another three decades.
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BuyersSellers can only hold out so long before they ultimatelybuysell,’‘Only an insane person would say that a housing unit that costs in excess of $400,000.00 is AFFORDABLE HOUSING!’
Housing market irrational exuberance is alive and well in San Diego.
…and a bankrupt city in the making! Good Luck.
..well, that’s $400,000 compared to….oh never mind.
Finally, buyers understood that this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to buy a home will not linger long.
This sentence is a delightful exercise in self-contradiction!
How much money does Moody’s take from the REIC in exchange for pronouncements like this one?
And why is it not obvious by now that “save our homes” bailouts like the ones Zandi favors not only put those who tried to stand clear of the housing market on the hook for others’ financial follies, but are also serving to prolong the housing correction?
U.S. Housing Market Needs Government Boost, Analyst Says
Published on: Monday, July 25, 2011
Written by: Brian O’Connell
Moody’s economist Mark Zandi emphasizes the need for government action in the housing crisis to help stave off further damage to the economy. Recent gains in the market suggest the threat of a double dip in home values has been avoided, but the five-year slump has taken its toll and policy changes are in order. Specifically, Zandi recommends more policy support for loan modifications and refinancing, and delaying a reduction in conforming loan limits. He admits these actions will be unpopular, but that securing the safety of the U.S. housing market is necessary for the broader health of the economy. For more on this continue reading the following article from The Street.
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After stating the obvious — that the housing market has been in a prolonged five-year slump — Zandi offers a prescription for what ails the housing sector.
“Policymakers may thus want to consider taking additional steps to support housing temporarily,” he writes. “These might include facilitating more mortgage refinancing, delaying a reduction in conforming loan limits and supporting more mortgage loan modifications — with principal reductions — more aggressively.”
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“Moody’s economist Mark Zandi…”
Capitalist free market Mark Zandi? The Khmer Rouge had the perfect solution for a “suit” like Zandi, an immediate relocation to the countryside. This hoe is your pencil, and the rice fields your books.
“‘If I’m a second, I might say, ‘I’m not going to take 5 percent of the outstanding balance if I think the first is going to wipe me out. I can record that judgement, and 10 years down the road, we may be able to collect,’ said Escondido real estate attorney Eric Ginder.”
Ten years down the road and you MAY be able to collect.
Ummm, Eric, I have a bit of advice for you: And that is that loans-gone-bad are not like fine wines. They do not age well.
The best chance of collecting ANYTHING is sooner, rather than later. BTW, 10 years later is WAY later.
The irony here is that Sacramento environs, Antelope Valley, Inland Empire, San Berdoo, all those counties that want to separate into another state (presumably so they can milk the federal government for even MORE gimmees,) ARE “affordable housing” for the areas they service(d.)
They were built as “overflow” housing from more affluent, educated populations, and have always been considered marginally livable locations. Even the tiniest bit of research would have shown that it remained historically “underdeveloped’ for a reason.
After four or five years of living in one of those miserable, over-priced, under-wrought particleboard tract ovens, no WONDER everyone is walking out and abandoning their mortgage. That part of CA is best suited for growing vegetables.
Oh. Wait….
particleboard tract ovens ??
LOL……..
Antelope Valley I lived and worked there in the early 1980’s just as it was starting to get ruined by LA overflow and HUD
too bad I kinda liked it back then not as hot as Phoenix get some snow in the winter nice view of the mountains
I would like to find another place now like the Antelope Valley was back then.
They were built as “overflow” housing from more affluent, educated populations, and have always been considered marginally livable locations. Even the tiniest bit of research would have shown that it remained historically “underdeveloped’ for a reason.
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I know you meant well, but I’m not sure if this reads as more classist or racist. Since I’ve been to the desirable part of CA, I’ll assume both.
How about “realistic?” What does class or race have to do with it?
Yipee! The local fishwrap has made it big time–included in Ben’s blog.
The Signal is my hometown newspaper!
Too bad its a bunch of drivel from RE hacks, but Real Estate is a big buck business in the Santa Clarita Valley.
Cal prices make little sense to the masses of folks who can’t ever afford them. Agents talk up the homes as if no crisis exits and everyone expects to pay top dollar for the privilage to live in Cal?
Even more bizarre is the notion that it is somehow in the interest of federal taxpayers in Flyover Country to guarantee loans of over $700,000 to help California millionaires buy “affordable housing.”
$700,000 to help California millionaires ”
Strawberry pickers can’t afford these anymore ?
….. a group of Central Valley realtors said he’s not alone - calling the short sale process ‘broken.’”
When one looks at the opportunities for fraud in the short sale process, one wonders why a bank would ever agree to such a transaction without recourse to the seller. Do California short sellers somehow get to walk away?
Do California short sellers somehow get to walk away?
It would be similar to foreclosure. If the buyer is on an original, purchase price loan, the answer would generally be yes. The advantage for the lender is that they don’t have to sell the property and would generally get more for the property than through a foreclosure. However, if they don’t want to sell the property any time soon…
“As for being able to own a house again,…”
I read a popular blog post with the title, “Why I Would Rather Shoot Myself in the Head Than Own a Home”
It made sense. … especially from an accounting perspective. People don’t like to hear it though. When have they ever?
The comments about it reminded me very much of what the HBB has discussed over the years and I was constantly reminded of the HBB as I read the comments.