July 30, 2011

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Comment by Muggy
2011-07-30 03:26:15

Good morning from Gardiner, NY, where the cheapeast bottle of wine is $14.99. Boo!

When did Subaru replace Volvo up here?

Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 05:14:15

I was just wondering where you were and plan on doing a shout out. Are you meeting up w/RAL in that neighborhood or is he still in DE? If you come on through Syracuse, I’d love to treat you and your wife to a beer/glass of wine.

 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-07-30 05:14:26

Wine is a hell of a lot cheaper in Brooklyn.

In fact, as I compare with those elsewhere, lots of things are cheaper in NYC if you avoid Manhattan. Power costs more, but you use less of it. Motor vehicles cost more but you don’t have to have one.

Of course there are two factors that balance this out, perhaps more than balance this out. Taxes/schools — lots of the former, lousy latter. And housing costs.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 06:32:48

“When did Subaru replace Volvo up here?”

The same time it did everywhere else? Volvo has indeed lost its granola clientele, and has been replaced by Subaru in just that demographic.

I don’t know who buys Volvos now, as I don’t see nearly as many around any more.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 06:47:41

Volvo quality went downhill fast after Ford bought them out in the late 1990s. Subaru is a much better car for the money, and it’s not just the granola set that buys them. Their AWD and reliability can be a lifesaver here in the Rockies.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 07:40:03

I loved my old Volvo 750GLE- the last of the reasonably-priced rear wheel drive imports. (RWD is what makes driving fun. I agree with Mickey Kaus’s theory that SUVs became popular in part because they were the last RWD vehicles available to Joe6pack.)

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Comment by yensoy
2011-07-30 08:30:38

Would you trust a Japanese car (Subaru) or a Chinese car (Volvo)?

Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-30 09:10:36

My “Vixen” is going on 17 years. I bought her (a Volvo) new in 1995, and dread the thought of a future car note. Yep, the Sweds made a good Volvo once. (But she is an Ugly Betty!…boxy & boring)

 
 
Comment by pdmseatac
2011-07-30 09:18:48

$14.95 for cheap wine ?

No Trader Joe’s in the area ? And even in Safeway I see $2.99 bottles of wine.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 12:54:49

Volvo priced themselves out of the market and doesn’t have 4WD except as a VERY expensive option.

Suburu has proven their 4WD to be reliable and comparatively affordable to all others.

4WD is a MUST in snow and mountains if you can afford it.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2011-07-30 04:09:19

Still working on that death ceiling.

Comment by cereal
2011-07-30 04:17:37

I’m sure Harry has a brilliant plan.

not

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-30 05:06:33

Actually, I’ve got the Palmetto Plan. The big headline this morning is how Apple has more cash than the US Treasury. So, just take Apple by eminent domain. For the public good. Problem solved.

Stick THAT in your I-Phone.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 07:27:56

So, just take Apple by eminent domain.

Apple Macintosh is an “Indemnified” $COTUS person Inc. = “untouchable” US Citizen with currently $75 Billion$ in ca$h

You’d need to terminate their their citizen$hip as well as revoke their Corporate Charter, how much time & money would you plan on spending to have the US Gov’t or yourself accomplish that objective? :-)

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-30 20:28:13

Apple’s just another greedy corporate behemoth feeding off cheap foreign labor. F*** Apple.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 05:23:28

cereal, they talked about that last night.

The stock market was holding off on crashing, thinking that this was a bunch of kabuki. They truly believed that Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell were just waiting for the kiddies in the House to finish up before pulling some ready-made deal out of the hat.

Now it’s abundantly clear to me that this is not your grandfather’s divided government. I don’t remember politics of old very well, but I certainly don’t remember monthly crises. There was a lot of posturing, but the Speaker usually reigned everybody in, and the minority in the Senate held their nose and voted for cloture. This time, the teabaggers in the House are SERIOUS, risking their own country to make a point. The bought-off Senators are SERIOUS about filibustering anything and everything that raises taxes a penny on their donors. It’s too close for comfort.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:31:55

The “teabaggers” as you put them aren’t “risking their own country” to make a point. They’re refusing to go along with endless increases in debt and spending, or ficticious “cuts” the Republicrats are pushing. The financial reckoning day is coming: the longer it is deferred, the worse it will be. I’m glad someone finally drew a line in the sand and said, “Enough!”

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 05:49:23

*yawn*

Same BS different day.

Wake me up when a teabagger writes and sponsors a jobs bill that brings some jobs back to the USA — especially ones that don’t need a $100K college education to do.

Wake me when a teabagger “broadens the tax base” :roll: to include “persons” like ExxonMobil and GE, and tells them that if they don’t repatriate their profits and pay tax, then they will be considered a foreign company and will be slapped with tarriffs.

Wake me when a teabagger sponsors a bill to let the Bush taxcuts on the over-$250K crowd expire. How many teabag voters even make that kind of scratch?

And who, pray tell, is going to suffer from this “financial reckoning?” Not the people that caused it, that’s for sure. They’ve rigged the rules

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:53:13

Wake me up when a teabagger writes and sponsors a jobs bill that brings some jobs back to the USA

Just what we need, more make-believe gubmint “stimulus” jobs that only balloon the national debt and swell the bureaucracy while producing very few actual paying jobs or tangible benefits. No small business owners are going to hire people as long as the onerous demands being placed on them and uncertainty over the economy remain facts of life.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 06:17:14

“No small business owners are going to hire people as long as the onerous demands being placed on them and uncertainty over the economy remain facts of life.”

Oh, so you’ve bought their propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

Real small businesses hire when they need workers. They don’t go understaffed when they’re busy because of ‘fear of new regulations’. That’’s a talking point for the easily fooled.

And a ‘new regulation’ like a nationalized single-payer health plan would be one of the best things that ever happened to small businesses in the US.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 06:57:01

Real small businesses hire when they need workers

I once worked at a small firm where the owner used to bitch about “regulations” all the time.

But when business picked up, he hired the people we needed. Not once did he ever leave business on the wayside for a lack of personnel.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 08:14:38

Thank you Sammy. Great posts!

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 09:47:20

I would love to see data on federal taxes paid in and federal cheese paid out by congressional district. I wonder how many of the Tea Party Republicans live in a district that gets more than they give. I wonder how many will give up pet projects when the next budget comes around.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 10:05:27

“Wake me up when a teabagger writes and sponsors a jobs bill that brings some jobs back to the USA

Just what we need, more make-believe gubmint “stimulus” jobs that only balloon the national debt and swell the bureaucracy while producing very few actual paying jobs or tangible benefits. “

Government jobs have not been outsourced yet. That jobs bill would be one that encourages companies to hire here instead of giving them tax breaks for hiring elsewhere.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:02:20

“uncertainty over the economy “

And the Tea Party initiated circus is sure contributing to the uncertainty.

Don’t worry Sammy, when the cuts become certainty, I can guarantee the economy will tank. That certainty will contribute to small businesses’ bottom line and their ability to hire. /snark off

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 16:41:45

“I can guarantee the economy will tank.”

But the fugly beauty of the outlook is that they can blame it on Obama, and most Americans will believe them, as everyone knows that the President is to blame for anything and everything that goes wrong with the economy.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:48:28

“they can blame it on Obama”

And those who form their opinions based on talk radio will do so.

 
Comment by Robin
2011-07-30 21:33:02

Oxide +10!

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:33:43

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=191032

The rank dishonesty of Congress (Boehner Bill).

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Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-30 05:42:05

Congress and the White House were full of teabaggers before the last election, so it’s hard to sort them out. The new rubes are stirring the pot, but it is a good thing that they do. Business as usual needs to be turned on its ear.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 07:06:51

“Business as usual needs to be turned on its ear.”

This is definitely the potential upside of what is currently underway. In particular, the prospects that affordable housing will soon return to the U.S. populace are improving considerably with each drop in the DJIA.

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 07:55:05

It seems to me that a the “catastrophic” part of not raising the debt ceiling is that it would bring the majority of new economic pain to the banksters and other rich untouchable elite. Bring “the Recession” to them, in other words. I really don’t think that would be a bad thing at all…

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 09:55:40

“it would bring the majority of new economic pain to the banksters and other rich untouchable elite”

Wishful thinking.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 10:11:43

“…it would bring the majority of new economic pain to the banksters and other rich untouchable elite.”

In theory, so would have the Fall 2008 financial collapse.

Does anyone recall what actually happened?

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-07-30 20:32:13

“In particular, the prospects that affordable housing will soon return to the U.S. populace are improving considerably with each drop in the DJIA.”

Or, perhaps, as the DOW falls, the pigs will divest themselves of stock, and buy up single family homes to capture the lion’s share of the rental market, then jack up rents.

 
 
Comment by Jojo
2011-07-30 05:54:01

The teabaggers are doing what they were elected to do.

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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 09:48:27

I thought they ran on jobs.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 10:58:15

“I thought they ran on jobs.”

That would be fully consistent with a ploy to precipitate a large uptick in unemployment and hope the U.S. election buys into their MSM propaganda campaign to blame it on Obama.

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 06:10:27

“I don’t remember politics of old very well, but I don’t remember monthly crisis.”

I want to see the time span of these “monthly crisis” reduced to “daily crisis”.

I want there to be a fight over every dollar that is spent. I want the thinking of Congress to be such as they believe there is a limited supply of the things.

Families are (finally) forced to think this way, I want Congress - the guys who are SUPPOSED to represent us - to think in the same way. And I’ll vote against any congressman who thiniks differently.

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-30 07:38:42

+10, combo.

 
Comment by scdave
2011-07-30 07:58:19

I want there to be a fight over every dollar that is spent ??

Starting with the United States Military…Its the biggest jobs program boondoggle we have…All in the name of keeping you safe…

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 09:12:05

How much the US spends on it’s domestic military needs certainly is worth a national debate.

The real Fiscal Debacle ihho is how the US Gov’t representative$ inflicts/engages those military re$ources upon other Sovereign Nations who have decided for whatever reasons, to go about their Nations “Bidness” in a manner that is not an exact duplicate nor even orientated to the standard USA model/template.

Very “muddy” que$tions come forth: ;-)

For example:
“How are the Middle-East Countries a Ginormous Fi$cal tick on the US Deficit?”

“What is the real cost to the average US citizen for a tank-full of gasoline?”

Prius vs Hummer …or stated another way: Conservation vs “in-your-face!” …or stated another way: “be not concerned with commodity/resource abuse by 6+ Billion human-anaimals.”

etc,. etc,. etc., ;-)

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:26:39

Combo, it sounds to me like you want to force the deflation that you have been betting on.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 14:56:52

I don’t want to force anything. If it were up to me none of this would have happened. But it is not up to me; Ultimately it’s up to Mr.Market.

There is no free lunch, but the free lunch crowd thinks there is.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 15:54:24

Unfortunately, Mr. Market is manipulated by whatever mega corporation dominates it.

I am not looking for a free lunch for myself because I am able to support myself. But I think we need a safety net. We need it for the developmentally delayed and others who will never be able to support themselves. We need it for the desperate folks in the inner cities who will beg and steal and riot when they run out of hope. We need it for the 50 somethings who have been tossed out of the employment market and have exhausted their savings. We need it for the unlucky who have had their future stolen by accident or disease. But maybe you are wealthy enough to buy protection and are willing to throw these folks away.

Although I intend to work my whole life, I am well aware that my ability to do so can change in an instant. And I am willing to lay down my life when I am no longer able to contribute to society. But I am not willing to make that choice for everyone else.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 17:50:17

I’m not against a safety net. I’m not against anything that is worth paying for. What I am against is spending money we do not have.

If it is worth having then it is worth paying for. It’s not all that complicated.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:46:55

And I believe the safety net is worth paying for, even if it never benefits me directly.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 19:46:03

Believe it or not I agree with you about needing the safety net. But I want it to be funded.

And I want it to be accounted for correctly; None of this off balance sheet nonsense and no more underfunded - or non-funded - promises.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 08:09:56

“…but I certainly don’t remember [$elf-Created / $elf-Inflicted] monthly crises.” ;-)

risking their own country to make a point
risking their own country to make a point
risking their own country to make a point
risking their own country to make a point
risking their own country to make a point

Job #1 for “TrueReducetheDeficitNow! Today!!Evangeical’s™”:

“TrueDoNothing™ / “TrueObstructionists™ / TrueGridLokers™”

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Comment by wmbz
2011-07-30 04:25:59

A glowing example of just how ignorant the MSM is of our economic situation. Must have a college degree to be this stupid.

10 Ways to Get Americans Spending Again
U.S. NEWS - Philip Moeller, July 29, 2011

Despite years of near-zero interest rates and government stimulus programs, American consumers have not recovered their spending appetites. They are still reeling from big mortgage and other debts, facing stagnant wages and long-term unemployment, and desperately seeking reasons to once again believe in the American Dream.

Since consumer spending is responsible for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity, employers are reluctant to hire people until they see more demand. So while corporate profits continue to soar, those trillions of booked earnings stay on the sidelines while economic growth sputters.

Many of the most impartial judges of the U.S. economy and government fiscal policy can be found overseas, in governments and financial institutions, and among the many organizations that hold half of our public debt. They have a big stake in U.S. financial stability. And they’re not running for elective office in the United States in 2012.

For the most part, our foreign creditors want to see evidence that the United States is on a sustainable path toward meaningful reductions in annual government deficits. If this evidence was coupled with more short-term stimulus, their reaction would be, for the most part, favorable. But any short-term stimulus must be part of a longer-term plan–a binding plan–to reduce deficits.

In a recent overview of the U.S. economy, the International Monetary Fund (NYSE: IMF - News) listed two main concerns about the country’s fiscal condition and deficit fight. One was default. The second was steep spending cuts, or what the IMF described as “an excessively large upfront fiscal adjustment that would significantly weaken domestic demand.” Sorry, that’s the way economists write.

“A politically-backed medium-term framework that raises revenues and addresses long-term expenditure pressures should be the cornerstone of fiscal stabilization,” the IMF said in the report.

Here are 10 ideas that have been widely suggested by economists and others to get consumers back into the game. Don’t expect to find quick fixes. As the nasty debt-ceiling fight shows all too well, the United States has run out of easy solutions. Also, many ideas involve short-term increases in government spending. Maybe this seems like a non-starter. Many people think horrendous deficits are what got us into this fix in the first place. There is an enormous gap between liberal and conservative thought here, and it’s not going away. Increasingly, however, many fiscal experts have come to believe that government stimulus programs of the past two years were too small and not effectively targeted to create a lot of new jobs. The failure of those stimulus efforts does not, by itself, mean that stimulus programs don’t work.

1. Boost consumer confidence. The very public food fight between Republicans and Democrats has been terribly damaging to public confidence. Our “leaders” need to discuss their differences in less hostile ways, reach a solution, and give Americans some reason to trust that their national government has their best interests at heart. Even if sharp differences remain, Congress and the White House should abandon their scorched-earth politics.

2. Agree on a long-term deficit reduction plan. Yes, this is a no-brainer. But we haven’t seen one yet. To be credible, the plan must address healthcare and other entitlement programs. Don’t expect seniors to applaud fiscal restraint that comes at their expense. But they know cuts are coming and will accept them, particularly if accompanied by higher taxes on wealthier Americans. Shared sacrifice must be apparent.

3. Start fixing the mortgage mess. It will take years to work off the excesses of the housing bubble. But the clock won’t start moving in earnest until and unless the government does a more effective job of speeding the review of troubled mortgages and helping to get them cleared off the books. These mortgages are a toxic overhang to a housing recovery, and the lack of home purchases and new-home construction is a huge drag on the economy.

4. Continue the payroll tax breaks for Social Security taxes. President Obama supports an extension through 2012 of this year’s two-percentage-point reduction in the employee share of Social Security payroll taxes. The reduction reduced the tax to 4.2 percent from 6.2 percent of covered payroll, up to $106,800 in annual wages.

5. Extend unemployment benefits. Long-term unemployment is becoming a terrible legacy of the Great Recession. As more and more Americans find themselves out of work for a year or more, their financial safety nets have become shredded.

[See Credit Cards Gone Wild.]

6. Expand job-training efforts. Job skills erode quickly in a knowledge-based economy. If we want to help reduce long-term unemployment, we need to step up our efforts to refresh and enhance job skills. Many job openings now go unfilled for lack of skilled applicants.

7. Adopt a government stimulus program for public works. Much of our infrastructure is decaying and at risk of falling apart. What better time to address these needs, and will prices ever be cheaper? There is great unused capacity and labor for this work. But let’s do it smartly, with strong federal-local partnerships that define high priority work that’s ready to be done soon.

8. Let the government negotiate lower drug prices for Medicare beneficiaries. Medicare is not allowed to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. Bills are regularly introduced to overturn this outdated nod to the myth of private price competition for branded prescription drugs. I guess we could all move to Canada, where drug prices are sharply lower than in the United States. But maybe there’s a better way.

9. Encourage just a bit of inflation. Somewhat higher interest rates would help to get capital off the sidelines in search of more attractive returns. It also would help reassure seniors by boosting their earnings on conservative retirement investments.

10. Strengthen the dollar. Higher interest rates also should boost demand for dollar-denominated assets. This will give American consumers more buying power for imported goods. If you want consumers to spend more money, give them more money to spend. A stronger dollar fits this bill. A stronger dollar would make it harder for U.S. firms to sell their exports. But the IMF study said that strong export activity by U.S. firms has not been contributing to overall domestic economic growth.

Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-07-30 05:27:46

1) Jobs
2) Full-time Jobs
3) Full-time Jobs that pay $20-30 an hour, or more.
4) Full-time Jobs, that pay $20-30 an hour or more, and include benifits like healthcare and retirement.
5) Full-time Jobs, that pay $20-30 an hour or more, and include benifits like healthcare and retirement, that are not short-term in nature like census or widen a road.
6) Full-time Jobs, that pay $20-30 an hour or more, and include benifits like healthcare and retirement, that are not short-term in nature like census or widen a road, that do not invovle creatign a bubble or generating more debt that can’t be payed back.
7) Full-time Jobs, that pay $20-30 an hour or more, and include benifits like healthcare and retirement, that are not short-term in nature like census or widen a road, that do not invovle creating a bubble or generating more debt that can’t be payed back, that don’t involve moving our industrial base off-shore.

Okay, I got bored before hitting all 10, but I think you can get the point.

We need to bring manufacturing jobs back, probably through tariffs. We need to stop thinking of corporate profit as the be-all, end-all goal of the economy. We need to stop thinking of the people as disposable cogs to be tossed aside as soon as a newer, cheaper cog comes along.

I realize I live behind the castle in Disneyland (Fantasyland), which is why I also believe we’re not going to mend the U.S. economy until we’ve passed through the fire.

I fear the fire, but now see it as inevitable.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 05:51:08

+10 Darrell.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:03:07

And let me add — some form of Public Option health care, which will eliminate a LOT of the bennies hassle.

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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 15:40:01

And stimulate small business formation.

 
 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 06:13:56

I don’t think those are coming back so let me propose something else:

Let housing costs, medical costs, education costs deflate. Then the US worker wouldn’t require $20-$30/hr jobs w/flush benefits to exist.

Comment by SV guy
2011-07-30 06:35:09

US manufacturing is vital to a legitimate economy.

It’s even MORE vital to National Security.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 07:07:52

I agree completely but do you need to keep paying that sector non-globally competitive rates if the cost of living becomes more equal to what it is globally?

We’ve got to let the deflation happen to get things back in line. It needs to be managed downward so infrasture is not lost in the process.

Unfortunately our resources are propping up what were already previously strong sectors instead while manufacturing whithers on the vine.

 
Comment by SV guy
2011-07-30 09:52:10

Hi Carrie,
I am for a greatly reduced military. Our ‘nation building’ is complete horseshat. I still want an extremely lethal force stateside though.

My original point was if you can’t produce your own armaments it’s only a matter of time before another flag gets run up the pole.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:09:35

I agree SVguy. I admit, it’s easy to say “cut the Pentagon.” But then I think of those sharpshooters who shot the pirates. Or that helicopter that Seal Team Six landed in Pakistan when they raided bin Laden. The one with the weird disk-covered blades so it could could evade radar.

So what I want to know, is how much of that Pentagon money is going to really cool stuff like the new helicopter, and how much is going straight to the coffers of SAIC and Boeing?

Also, cutting a program almost always cuts somebody’s job. Luckily, these contractors are rife with older folks who can well afford to retire, even with a damaged 401K.* What we need is for those contractors to step aside and let them be replaced with fewer, younger college grads.

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*I’m thinking of Bill the Nomad, who often brags that he could quit today and live off $100K+(?) for life. There are plenty of contractors who have done exactly that.

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 11:50:06

Above I said: “Let housing costs, medical costs, education costs deflate”

Not sure why all of a sudden I’m being told we can’t cut the military. Please tell me where I argued for that. Did I make that statement before? I can’t tell you how much both my husband’s and my families as well as quite a few good friends would probably be affected.

I want to produce armaments over here too as well as furniture and shoes and things we used to produce stateside. But until our pay is more balanced w/the global norm it’s not going to happen. It can happen when certain elevated costs in industries supported by government subsidies are allowed to fall. It’s time to let them fall.

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-07-30 13:26:34

Darrell:

Bring back all the overseas profits at 0% tax..yup no tax if you spend it on Americans in America…bring back all your call centers R&D the money cannot be used for stock buybacks or exec. options or to buy other companies, wages insurance etc and only on Americans no H1B or people with visas

I would love to ask Steve Jobs, why can’t an ipad be made in Kansas?

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 05:31:43

Nothing about tarriffs, demanding decent working conditions for overseas worker, global environmental controls, universal health care (althought the Med part D is a start), penalizing employers for hiring illegals, energy independence?

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 08:20:07

From 1790 to the dawn of WWI, tariffs were the main revenue source of the U.S. government. With the passage of NAFTA, it basically put the nail in the coffin of resurrecting tariffs. In essence this screwed the American public (main street), which should not be paying any income taxes at all.

We need to return to tariffs, as a source of more than 90% of government revenue and the remainder from excise taxes, which would probably be a very low tax rate of 1% or 2%, passed on to the consumer. No income tax, no capital gains tax, no corporate tax, no dividend tax, no airport tax, etc.

This is what Ron Paul suggests. It makes a lot of sense.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 08:50:06

This is what Ron Paul suggests. It makes a lot of sense.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense on a lot of issues.

Ron Paul says our current wars are unconstitutional.

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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 09:26:17

“We could eliminate the income tax, replace it with nothing, and still fund the same level of big government we had in the late 1990s.”
- Ron Paul

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:16:18

And in the late 90’s, the baby boomers were in their early 50’s, working at their peak income, and paying for private health insurance. Paying in.

Now, those same baby boomers are 65-66, on Medicare and SS, or they are laid off and on UI. Taking out.

And don’t forget Bush’s wars.

Yeah, I said it. BUSH’s WARS.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:39:41

Wmbz,

I don’t think the MSM is ignorant as much as co-opted. The five or six corporate conglomerates who own literally all of the MSM media outlets would not be well-served by truthful reporting and investigation of the current state of affairs in the U.S. or the world, especially our house-of-cards casino economy and financial system. Thus the MSM serves as the corporate cartel’s border collies in herding the sheeple into the globalists’ plantation. Look at any MSM news panel, where the only difference of opinion between the talking heads will be on which corporatist, statist solution should be implemented most rapidly. Guests who make the mistake of speaking truth to power are immediately hushed up and escorted off the set, never to be invited back.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:50:14

Guests who make the mistake of speaking truth to power are immediately hushed up and escorted off the set, never to be invited back.

Case in point: Ex-CIA analyst Michael Scheuer calls out vapid CNN eye-candy news anchors for “carrying Obama’s water.” Go to 4:30 or so on the video and let the hilarity ensure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMOtC9zGQHI

Comment by SV guy
2011-07-30 06:38:28

I have seen that video before. You can tell the ‘bubble headed bleach blonde’ has her panties in a twist after that remark.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 06:58:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWG20d4N0ME&playnext=1&list=PLFB96D3CA537EFCE1

Here’s another favorite of mine along the same lines: Sylvian Raines calls out Jim Cramer on Erin Burrett’s CNBC show for being a Goldman Sachs shill, and is promptly booted off the show. Hilarious.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 07:06:12
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:23:13

I wouldn’t say the CNN is carrying Obama’s water, sprecifically. Obama’s not the one buying TV ad time on CNN. Both anchors are carrying the water for the war machine, (ie defense contractors) no matter who the President is.

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Comment by butters
2011-07-30 12:51:16

Strange.

When Bush bombs, Bush is the warmonger, it’s his fault.
When Obama bombs, it’s not him. it’s the war machine.

It’s never him, he can do no wrong, right?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:01:06

No butters, Obama has been trying and, wait for it, IS actually winding down the wars, but Congress is doing it’s best to keep their defense buddies and all that payola going.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2011-07-30 16:54:35

Actually, it’s reasonable to blame big business, the main power in this country, for the warmongering that has occurred under both the current president and previous one. This has been the case for many years. Fifty years ago Eisenhower gave his speech which warned of the military-industrial complex. You might ask the question, “He was the president, why didn’t he do something about it?” The answer, of course, is that he couldn’t anything about it. He was merely the president of the United States and they are the military-industrial complex.

 
 
 
 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 06:22:04

“Since consumer spending is responsible for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic acivity …”

Stop right there! This is the problem in the nutshell. Fix this and you fix the problem.

If more than two-thirds of the economy is dependent on consumer spending then the logical question to ask is where are consumers supposed to get the money to spend on all this consuming? And once they get this money where does it eventually end up after they are done spending it?

Goods flow in one direction - from the producer to the consumer - and the money to pay for these goods flows in the opposite direction - from the consumer to the producer. Until we ourselves begin to produce what we consume we will always be short of money because money will continously leak our of our consumer-based economy and end up somewhere else.

 
Comment by comrade mike
2011-07-30 09:30:47

When I saw Shared sacrifice I gave up reading. This is written by a fool. If you make over 250,000 you already pay a lot of taxes. Screw bama, let him sacrifice by parking Air Force One. No more vacations for him or the family and lay off the staff at the White House.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 10:23:26

Yeah, that’ll solve the problems … not.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:32:46

If you make over 250,000 you already pay a lot of taxes.

The socialist rebuttal is that if you make over $250K, then the country that provides safety and security for you business and your customers needs the money a lot more than you do. Nor do I buy into the concept that people making over $250K are truly “producing” four times more than a $60K worker.

I get the feeling that high salaries are like inflated house prices or antique appraisals. Does a Federal-period Herder Brothers table truly hold up dishes to the tune of $28000 worth? Does a million-dollar house provide more shelter than a $150K 3/2? I mean, yes obviously, you can try to put a value on whether a table is prettier or the house can sleep more people or how much land or whatever. But at some point, the price disconnects from the material value. Same with most upper management and CEO’s — and IMO the disconnect point is not that far off from $250K/year.

Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-30 12:03:50

Why is $250k the magic number? Why not a million? Where do the socialists come up with their figures?

I have said it a couple of times recently, $250k is not rich, well off depending where you live, but not rich. Rich is the 100k+ per month crowd, but you socialists know that there is not enough revenue to be found if you go up that high, you want the small businessman’s cash. Salaried employees making over $200k pay an a$$load of taxes already, they have no loopholes or shelters to hide behind.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 12:17:27

Why is $250k the magic number?

Because saying “Quarter Mil” is fun.

Why not a million?

“One million dollars”?? That would sound too much like Dr. Evil

Where do the socialists come up with their figures?

In a different bucket than the fascists.

 
Comment by butters
2011-07-30 12:35:54

$250K is a lie number thrown to passify the masses. The truth of the matter is the demtards would love to tax anyone who breathes. If you make 50000, that’s even better because there are lots of you out there….

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:09:36

No, that isn’t the truth.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68R40I20100928

(Reuters) - Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic bill on Tuesday to end tax deductions enjoyed by companies that close their U.S. plants and move overseas.

With a largely party-line vote of 53-45, Democrats failed to muster the 60 votes needed to clear a Republican procedural hurdle against the measure, WHICH WOULD ALSO GIVE EMPLOYERS A TAX BREAK TO HIRE NEW U.S WORKERS.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:14:59

$250K per year IS rich. If you don’t think you’re rich making 250k, then quit and give your job to someone who appreciates it and can mange their money better.

But more than anything, the numbers say you ARE rich. 250k puts you in the top 10% of ALL earners, let alone the net worth it buys you.

That’s the very definition of “rich.”

250k is not rich? Careful, your insecurity is showing.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 13:19:34

Who are the “demtards” that want to tax the lots of $50K workers?

Isn’t it RUSH LIMBAUGH who is screaming about the 50 million (low-income) people who pay no taxes and who should pay their fair share?
Isn’t it the REPUBLICANS who filibustered expiring tax breakds for over $250K crowd (which includes the over $50k crowd)
Isn’t it the REPUBLICANS who want to “broaden the tax base?” And they sure as hell don’t mean broaden it toward Exxon and Chevron, because when the dems tried to broaden the tax base to include the multinationals, the R’s voted that down.
I was once at a breakfast with a REPUBLICAN Congresscritter who wanted to raid the middle class because “that’s where all the money is.” That was in 2006.

No, by their own admission, it’s the R’s who want to tax any $50K worker who breathes.

It’s a moot point anyway. There aren’t many breathing $50K workers. Those jobs went to India, remember?

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-30 14:35:17

I will slow down so you can understand my point.

The rich are the 100+ per month crowd, most rational Americans would agree.

Those that make $250k +- $50k would be nothing more than upper middle class.

Would I like to make $250k? Absolutely I would, but I would not consider myself to be rich.

As a wage earner myself in the upper 5 figure area, I could see being more comfortable if my salary shot up by $150k. I could save more and retire a bit sooner, but there would be no affording a mansion and a fleet of Bentleys.

Your attempt to equate $250k wage earners and small businessmen to the very rich is completely without merit. Hedge Fund Moguls and Con Men like George Soros are rich, Hollywood Actors and Star Athletes are rich, Fascist Corporate CEO’s like Jeff Immelt and Lloyd Blankfein are rich.

Get it?

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:36:37

“you want the small businessman’s cash”

A small businessman with a profit of $250K is doing better than most small business people. He may be a contractor like Bill in Tampa, with very low expenses. But it is more likely that he employs a few people. Most small business people can write off ordinary living expenses that W-2 workers can’t (trucks, computers, software, etc.), so $250K for them is a higher income level than the $250K W-2 worker.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-30 14:37:14

100+ per month - should read $100k+ per month

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 15:36:23

Nick, I agree with your definitions of rich and upper middle class.

“As a wage earner myself in the upper 5 figure area”

Are you afraid that the bar will be lowered to your income level?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 18:35:37

Oh for heaven’s sake, the argument isn’t about whether $250K is “rich.” The argument is whether someone who’s making $250K a year can afford a little more in taxes 4% more, and only on the amount about the $250K.

If you make $250,100 a year, your total tax increase is a whopping $4. Yeah, that’ll send you to the poorhouse.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2011-07-30 23:14:19

“Are you afraid that the bar will be lowered to your income level?”

Not really, I live well below my means, but I am sure my taxes will have to go up a bit to raise the kind of revenue needed to support current spending. Hopefully our representatives can slow down the rate of budget growth somewhat. That way when the economy begins to expand the increased revenues can be used to pay down some debt. I don’t have a whole lot of confidence.

 
 
Comment by butters
2011-07-30 12:41:45

Nor do I buy into the concept that people making over $250K are truly “producing” four times more than a $60K worker.

True. You see that everywhere. But then again, that’s life. Beautiful people in general will have more access to money and material things. Should we create a beauty tax? It can be said that the athletes, artists and actors also don’t produce a damn thing worth anything. Not to me anyway. Should they be taxed a lot higher than let’s say the plumber?

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 12:55:54

Should (artists and actors) be taxed a lot higher than let’s say the plumber?

Of course not.

(unless they make a lot more money than the plumber)

 
 
 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:23:15

“When I saw Shared sacrifice I gave up reading.”

If you want to cut Medicare and Social Security, you will need true shared sacrifice that includes corporations and increased tax rates.

What you want is screw the vulnerable.

 
Comment by Pete
2011-07-30 16:52:17

“When I saw Shared sacrifice I gave up reading. This is written by a fool.”

The author was telling us how seniors would likely think, not what the author necessarily thinks.

I took it to mean that if seniors are to accept lower benefits, there must be the appearance of shared sacrifice to win them over. (which makes sense, imo).

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:03:20

Darrel nailed it: JOBS! JOBS THAT CAN PAY THE (ever rising) BILLS!

Half the population still has no clue how bad it is.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:10:51

“Even if sharp differences remain, Congress and the White House should abandon their scorched-earth politics.”

Let’s do everything the Tea Party wants to do?

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:18:47

“If we want to help reduce long-term unemployment, we need to step up our efforts to refresh and enhance job skills. Many job openings now go unfilled for lack of skilled applicants.”

The skilled applicants they are looking for already have 4-5 years experience in a very precise skillset. They are not looking for long-term unemployed folks with newly minted credentials.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 14:28:35

“Continue the payroll tax breaks for Social Security taxes.”

Social Security is doomed.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-30 04:31:37

Summer TV Press Tour 2011: What Harry Belafonte would ask Congress about the debt crisis By Lisa de Moraes - The Washington Post

Singer Harry Belafonte, subject of an upcoming HBO documentary about his political activism, was asked what he would say to the White House and Congress about the gamesmanship in which they are engaged over the national debt.

“My question would be, to Congress and the president: What happened to moral truth? What happened to moral courage?” Belafonte said.

He’d also like to tell them: “Politics without moral purpose, really more often than not, winds up as tyranny.”

“Barack Obama and his mission has failed because it lacked a certain kind of moral courage, a kind of moral vision . . . a kind of courage we are in need of,” said the King of Calypso.

“When he said ‘Yes, we can,’ it was politically clever, but he never defined what it is we can do. So we filled in those spaces — what we thought he meant — only to find we were disappointed, because none of those points was satisfied.”

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-30 05:08:13

DAYYYY-OH! Dedaydaydedaydaydedayday. Boogie man’s comin’ aniwannagohome.

 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-07-30 05:32:32

I actually agree with him.

“Yes we can” was briliant becasue each person could define “it” however they wanted to. The doves assumed he meant end the wars. The illegals assumed he meant amnesty. The poor assumed he meant improve their economic situation….

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:54:57

“Change Goldman Sachs Can Believe In” perfectly captured Obama’s agenda, but probably wouldn’t fly with the focus groups and lemmings.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-30 05:57:49

Some assumed that he had no agenda beyond basking in the sunshine of his own magnificence. Those were completely satisfied. It was too early in this cycle for a real hero, but we are getting closer. Wonder if we will get one who is “moral”?

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 06:28:50

“It was too early in this cycle for a real hero, but we are getting closer.”

All this stuff about ‘cycles’ and ‘turnings’ is a bunch of bunk- comparable to reading the zodiac, where everyone reads into it whatever they want.

The only ‘cyclical turning’ we’re in is a return to the boom/bust economy that we’ve always had, prior to FDR’s reforms.

That’s how capitalism- which always becomes crony capitalism when it’s unregulated- works.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2011-07-30 07:02:43

There are cycles and rhythms in life and in the generations of society. We are fortunate (or not) enough to be witnesses to the aftermath of the largest credit expansion in history. It’s not unique except in its size and global scope. If you don’t think there are any cycles in human behavior, then why did you buy into the concept that the housing buble would eventually burst?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 07:40:30

“…witnesses to the aftermath of the largest credit expansion citizen-individual & Corp-Inc-per$on $elf-indulgence in history”

Hwy agree$! :-)

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-07-30 08:08:41

I perfer to call this criminal credit expanson a crime spree ,or a masive Ponzi Scheme .You can raise the value of anything if you breach lending standards and appraisal standards to do it . People globally were given
credit beyond prudence or reason and ratings on this credit were false . It all involved falsehoods to carry it out ,so that’s a crime.

The Godfathers that created this situation had no right to just give people money based on demand rather than
based on qualifying . There is a limit to how much credit
you can inject into anything and that is based on ability to afford that credit ,and misallocation of resources and
crime will result if the Money brokers become like drug dealers for debt with no lending standards .

Yes ,the people should of rejected the false market, but
than we get into the whole brainwashing and the contrived mania in housing prices that was beyond all reason . The talking heads were the rah rah cheerleaders luring the sheep to their financial demise .

Really, all this easy money took peoples eyes off the furthering of destructive Globalism and the gutting of the USA manufacturing base ,job base and tax base .Who benefited from the faulty credit ,but the sellers of products .Add to this the price fixing monopolies ,such as Health care and other Industries, lack of proper tariffs , and the tendency for the Government to be the fall guy in taking on Industries costs,and of course we are doomed with this faulty math . A entire overhaul is necessary and a return to fuctional systems from the standpoint of what benefits the Majority of Americans ,especially the Great Middle Class .

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 08:19:15

“If you don’t think there are any cycles in human behavior, then why did you buy into the concept that the housing buble would eventually burst?”

Bubbles always burst, and people make mistakes and sometimes learn from them and sometimes don’t. But that doesn’t mean that every thing is a ‘turning’ or a ‘cycle’. If that were the case why is there such large-scale opposition to almost any new political or economic reform or change? FDR’s reforms weren’t swept in by a generation that whole-heartedly agreed with them. They were fought over tooth-and-nail by people in all the generations concerned. And most of the disputes were the same we’re having now.

Same as it ever was, no new generations of ’scholars’ replacing the last generation of ‘leaders’, or ‘problem-solvers’ or whatever the latest theory is that tries to sell a few books. Just the never-ending battle between the forces of small-minded greed and its eternal enemy, rationality.

The battle between the fearful and progress. You know, the liberal/conservative divide. As old as man.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 08:36:23

eyes like your 3-D high re$olution glasses HW, it really brings to life: “Mar$ Attacks! in blu-ray ;-)

took peoples eyes off the furthering of destructive Globalism and the gutting of the USA manufacturing base, job base and tax base .Who benefited from the faulty [Toxic] credit [Creation], but the [Mega] $ellers of product$. Add to this the price fixing monopolie$ , such as [Mega]Health care and other [Mega] Industries, lack of proper tariffs, and the [Hurry! Hurry! Hurry!] tendency for the Government to be the fall guy in taking on [Mega] Industries [mal-inve$ted] costs

MegaRetail
MegaChurches
MegaMedicalInc.$
MegaMilitaryIndu$trialComplexInc.$
MegaCruiseShips
MegaMarket$
MegaSuperStar$
MegaWankerBanker$

Bigger, Bigger!,…Faster, Faster!,…Don’t Stop, Don’t Stop!

(Hwy is awaiting the peon-heroes to come and vaporize them with the Straighten up and fly right! ultimate instrument of destruction!)

Power level set to: “Boycott

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-07-30 11:20:44

Hwy ….like your additions . They can solve the problems if they don’t understand what the problems are ,and they
continue to just be reactionary to faulty systems that evolved in the last 20 years ,at least in terms of a strong middle class America .

 
 
 
Comment by Robin
2011-07-30 22:55:38

I voted for “O”, but sadly agree. No huevos, cojones, balls, i.e. lead with his ideas in writing that could get shot down first. Sad - :)

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-30 07:33:56

Belafonte, is a stone cold racist, who backed Barry big-time! Expecting a completely different out come. The reality that Barry was and has been bought off and is playing the game the way all politicians do has really pissed off all the kooks like Harry.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 16:38:10

Belafonte is old enough to have been the target of racism, including lynchings, segregated hospitals, and all of the other Jim Crow laws. He knows racism at a level you will never understand.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-30 04:34:09

U.S. Homeownership Falls to Lowest Since ’98
(Bloomberg)

The U.S. home-ownership rate fell to the lowest level since 1998 in the second quarter as stricter lending standards blocked purchases and foreclosures forced people out of their residences.

The ownership rate through June was 65.9 percent, the lowest since the same rate 13 years ago, the U.S. Census Bureau said in a report today. The vacancy rate, the share of properties empty and for sale, was 2.5 percent, compared with 2.6 percent in the first quarter.

The strictest mortgage standards in more than a decade are disqualifying potential buyers while owners are being evicted from homes after falling behind on loan payments, said Wayne Yamano, director of research at John Burns Real Estate Consulting in Irvine, California. Home purchases fell in June to a 4.77 million annual pace, the National Association of Realtors said July 20. If housing demand remains at that level, 2011 would have the fewest sales since 1997.

“Tight underwriting standards and the lack of a down payment are keeping a big chunk of buyers out of the market and other people are being displaced by foreclosures,” Yamano said in an interview before the report. The ownership rate may tumble to about 62 percent by 2015, he said.

Conflicting data on sales and prices show the housing market that sparked the global recession continues to struggle. The number of contracts to purchase previously owned U.S. homes rose 2.4 percent in June, the Chicago-based Realtors’ group reported yesterday. Together with an 8.2 percent gain in the prior month, the index has almost erased an 11 percent plunge in April.

Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-07-30 05:33:42

Arizona income receipts up as fewer people claim mortgage interest deduction.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 07:09:45

“The ownership rate may tumble to about 62 percent by 2015, he said.”

How is that Ownership Society concept working out for the DC policymakers who supported pimping subprime loans to the masses?

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 08:28:18

Lots of Phoenix neighborhoods are going to the weeds. I say bulldoze the empty houses and create preserves. Cut up the asphalt in empty neighborhoods and take it all out and turn back to the desert.

It’s still several years away from the point where the rightful home owners take the place. For now too many dysfunctional family neighborhoods. Too much diversity discouraging neighbors from mixing and knowing all about who is next door.

A little girl was brutally murdered by her guardians in Phoenix a few weeks ago. Some of the neighbors knew she was being mistreated but DID NOTHING. This is part of the complacency that is the soft underbelly of America. Passivity everywhere. Fear of being called judgemental.

Light a match and let the trash burn from its own fat.

Sorry. I’m pissed about the little girl who was savagely murdered. I wish I had control of those four adults who mistreated her. I would slowly torture them, not for days. For months. Then stick them each in a hot box, padlock it and kick it around, keep it out on a 110 degree day and go off for a day.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 04:43:55

Today’s house:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4800-Tallahassee-Ave-Rockville-MD-20853/37306296_zpid/

1959 3/2 rambler on 0.16 acre. 1056 sq ft but has a full basement and nice kitchen. Pretty house, but not cutie patootie. Good neighborhood, well-kept, move-in ready, but about $70K overpriced!

Sold 1973 $41K*
Zestimate 2002: $228k
Zestimate 2004: $313
Listed: $280K

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* Interesting. The first house my parents bought was the same kind of house. It was on a little more land, but in the Northeast, and little farther out from a small city. They bought it for $27K in 1975. So comparable houses in the DC area cost a lot more even back in the 70’s. So even in a normal market, I can expect to pay about 1/3 more.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 06:53:36

Kinda ugly. Back yard shows signs of very active dog(s). I guess there’s hardwood under that ugly carpeting?

Here’s what you can get around here (Lexington, Ky, median household income ~$46,500) for about the same price- in one of our nicest, central-ring suburbs, in a very good school district.

http://search.lbar.com/mls/details/residential/1014819.html

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:40:00

But also, where I live, the PITI for that overpriced ugly house is LESS than what I’m paying in rent…

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Comment by MightyMike
2011-07-30 17:05:19

So houses are more expensive in the DC area than Kentucky? Thanks for the update. You learn so much reading this blog.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 18:41:39

Let me repeat: the PITI for that overpriced ugly house is LESS than what I’m paying in rent…

And no, rents do not fall. Yes, you may see a statistic that “rents are falling,” but I have not seen it on an individual basis. At best, rent doesn’t go up, not even during the bubble when everyone was buying and nobody wanted to rent.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 19:23:50

“So houses are more expensive in the DC area than Kentucky? Thanks for the update. You learn so much reading this blog.”

median household income Wash DC: $59,500
median house price: $443,700
7.5 x income

median household income Lexington: $46,500
median house price: $162,500
3.5 x income

You’re right, MightyMike. Stuff like this has nothing to do with the real estate bubble. We’ll just hush up and let you thrill us with your dazzling inputs.

So let’s hear something interesting, oh mighty one.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:25:58

289K for 1000sqft? No garage/carport?

Pass.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:04:10

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110730_Teen_mayhem_hits_Philly_s_streets_again.html?cmpid=124488429

More of the edgy urban vibe so beloved by downtown condo-buying hipsters. Wait till austerity (and law enforcement layoffs) really start to bite.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-30 05:19:59

Tsk tsk. It’s just some misguided youts who have made poor choices, doncha know.

THROW MORE MONEY AT ‘EM! We need more inner city programs, better education, more opportunity!!!! MORE….MUNNI…NOW!

LOL, I guess the flash mob life wins out over all those Boyz n’ Girlz Clubs.

Comment by palmetto
2011-07-30 05:22:52

From the Harry Belafonte story above:

“When he said ‘Yes, we can,’ it was politically clever, but he never defined what it is we can do.”

The misguided yout have defined it.

 
Comment by SV guy
2011-07-30 06:41:23

I thought teaching them english would solve it?

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 05:55:50

Wrote a college paper on Center City after visiting in 1981. My host for the trip was a Valley Forge area family, DAR w/recently prominent family members and all that so I remember getting a lot of background of the area while there.

Doesn’t sound like much has changed since then. I remember my friend saying we needed to get out of there before dark.

I agree w/your austerity comment completely. Talk about being trapped by your mortgage.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 05:06:49

And for another of Today’s Houses:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7447-Woodbine-Rd-Woodbine-MD-21797/64618422_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}

Tiny 3/1 on an acre.
$199K.

I would call this a semi-Oil City house. This is way the heck out of town — boonie farmland. It’s about a 45 minute drive to the main suburbs and uncommutable downtown. Nowhere near a train or bus, but a half hour at most from a nearby hospital. It would be a great homestead for a middle-class income in a nearby small city, like a manager at a bank branch.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 05:58:59

Hey but there’s a fish pond!

I’m really enjoying getting a peek into your local market. Thanks.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 07:30:11

I liked that house better than the other. Here’s an Oil City-style house about a half hour south of Lexington, on 5 acres, backs up to a nice creek, for about the same price:

http://search.lbar.com/mls/details/residential/1106418.html

Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 10:46:10

Dayum, alpha. That’s a gorgeous property.

Lexington, btw, is one the smaller cities I would pick as an oil-city type destination. Traffic but not horrendous, university town with hospital and a little diversity to go with it, 5 miles and you see cows, lots of cheap open land, plenty of rainfall, probably enough Wal-mart and mall jobs for income. And for some here, a nice non-nanny gun-totin’s southern state.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 12:06:17

“university town with hospital ”

There are actually 5 good-sized regional hospitals here, so we’re well-positioned to strip the last of the boomers wealth as they slip off to the eternal Woodstock.

One good thing about Lexington is that if you get a jones for a bigger-city experience, say you want to see a pro ball game, or go to a zoo or a superior art museum, Cincinnati is just an hour’s drive north on a beautiful wooded stretch of I-75 that reminds me of the autobahn (and the scarcity of places for police to hide makes it drive like the autobahn, if you’re so inclined).

And the Cinci international airport is really in Northern Ky, so it’s even closer than Cinci. I can be in London 7 hours after leaving my front door, if the flight’s on time.

There are a lot of nice, inexpensive little towns and farms in between Lexington and Cincinnati that would also make good Oil City homesteads, or just cheap places to retire, with convenient access to either city.

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Comment by jane
2011-07-30 22:09:15

I always love hearing about Southern non-nanny gun-totin’ states! And towns! Thanks.

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Comment by jane
2011-07-30 22:01:33

Oxy,

That is just undo-able if you work in DC or Tyson’s.
For folks not from the area, the main artery to the Beltway is 270, shown on the map as the NW to SE diagonal here.

270 is a parking lot 8 am +/- two hours, and from 2:30 PM till 7 PM. It is worse than the Beltway. So, if you leave the house at 5:30 AM, you could get to work by 7. MAYBE. If you drove. If you train it, and you work in Tyson’s, no better timewise because of the transfers required to actually get TO work, even if your company has one of those cute commuter vans.

There just ain’t no way to do it. Another piece of evidence that this area got overrun by just about 200,000 too many gub’mint workers and contractors.

One can only hope that the pendulum swings summat the other way with the prospective budget ceiling-driven cuts. Boy, does one hope.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 05:28:04

http://www.thenation.com/article/162317/how-america-could-collapse

How America Could Collapse (from The Nation, a non-Rupert Murdoch publication)

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 07:11:44

Do Tea Party members throwing Molotov cocktails during the debt ceiling debate serve to increase or to decrease the likelihood of collapse?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 07:49:32

(Gene Hackman), Unforgiven’s lil’ Bill,… educatin’ Ned Logan (Morgan Freeman): “Now next time eyes whip ya, it won’t be gentle, like before…” ;-)

 
 
Comment by SDGreg
2011-07-30 09:21:08

“By the early parts of the last decade, the ideal American multinational made its profits by using its market power to gut labor and supply prices and by using its political power to eliminate taxation. All of this turned giant American institutions against making things. This is why we rely on a British factory to make our flu vaccine, why global videotape production was knocked offline by a tsunami and why that same event slowed the gigantic auto industry. US corporate leaders now see the idea of making things as a cost of doing business, one best left to others. What has happened as a result is that much of the production for critical products and services that make our economy run is constructed by a patchwork global network of suppliers all over the world in unstable regions, over which we have very little control. An accident or political problem in any number of countries may deny us not just iPhones but food, medicine or critical machinery.”

“There’s a good amount of grumbling about the state of American infrastructure—collapsing bridges, high-speed rail, etc. But American infrastructure is not just about public goods, it’s about how the corporations that enforce, inform and organize economic activity are themselves organized. Are they doing productive research? Are they spreading knowledge and know-how to people who will use it responsibly? Are they creating prosperity or extracting wealth using raw power? And most importantly, are they contributing to the robustness of our society, such that we can survive and thrive in the normal course of emergencies?”

“The answer to all of these questions right now is “no.” And while this may not be hitting the elite segments of the economy right now, there will be no escape from a flu pandemic or significant food shortage. The re-engineering of our global supply chain needs to happen—and it will happen, either through good leadership or through collapse. This means that our government and our society needs to reorient our economy toward manufacturing and rededicate our corporations to productive uses. This will require a new conception of antitrust laws to ensure that monopolistic or oligopolistic practices in pivotal industries aren’t placing our culture at risk. It means understanding the networks of suppliers and sub-suppliers. And it means ending the race to the bottom that pushes deflationary pressures on labor and the social safety net.”

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 09:50:05

Tankxs! SDGreg

This will require a new conception of antitrust laws to ensure that monopolistic or oligopolistic practices in pivotal industries aren’t placing our culture at risk.

Actually, this can be accomplished without any Gov’t law, if only CorpInc.$ SOCTU$ persons simply applied what lessons they hear when the go to their selective churches on Sunday morning:

Straighten up and fly right!

Here’s another example of low cost private peon-education for “Bidness” to envi$ion:

Boycott ‘em!:-)

 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 11:19:58

US CORPORATE LEADERS NOW SEE THE IDEA OF MAKING THINGS AS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS, ONE BEST LEFT TO OTHERS. What has happened as a result is that much of the production for critical products and services that make our economy run is constructed by a patchwork global network of suppliers all over the world in unstable regions, over which we have very little control. An accident or political problem in any number of countries may deny us not just iPhones but food, medicine or critical machinery.”

I quoted that entire paragraph in bold because it’s so important, and capitalized the most important sentence. The only “things” that corporations push around now is electrons, and they like it that way.

 
Comment by Robin
2011-07-30 20:07:22

Hard to dig into this thread anywhere!

If housing prices are down 50% in major areas, in theory two people who were working for $25 per hour could buy housing at half price, take jobs at $12.50 and compete with the global market more effectively. No?

 
 
 
Comment by Hard Rain
2011-07-30 05:41:21

Inside the Sausage Maker of Executive Compensation at RIMM

Executive compensation is a hot button issue for many investors. They can’t understand why executive pay keeps going up whether or not the company’s performance goes up with it.

My bias is that management usually tries to stack the deck in their favor of getting the maximum amount of compensation out of the company for the least amount of performance. They do this in a number of ways such as:

- Filling the Compensation Committee with friends who will feel obligated to pay whatever management basically wants to be paid, whether or not they perform

- Ensure the performance criteria to be judged on is sufficiently vague so you can claim victory when bonus time comes and;

- Hire compensation consultants to sign off on your compensation practices (who have a vested interest in making you and their other management clients happy by continually approving higher and higher compensation every year) — these consultants make money by basically giving the Comp Committee on the board “cover”

When you go back and read the history books on RIMM for last year, even the most impartial observer will say it was a year where management was overwhelmed by the competition and had to take drastic steps to try and save the company.

According to RIMM’s Compensation Committee, that performance meant the two co-founders deserved $5.1 million each last year.

Apparently, both co-founders think they are very important to the company’s success. They appoint the Compensation Committee that decides they are worth 3x what another member of the management team can get in a given year. Yet, they aren’t among the 2,000 who were let go yesterday. And they won’t be affected by the next round of layoffs promised in the months ahead.

Heads, I win. Tails, you lose.

http://news.yahoo.com/inside-sausage-maker-executive-compensation-rimm-211131917.html

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 09:35:20

Nothing like a high-level RIMM job.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-07-30 10:37:36

LOL! Awesome…

Guess I should have seen that one coming, but I didn’t…

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:31:01

There’s no bias at all, Hard Rain. It’s FACT. the BODs treat the companies they run as their personal piggy banks. Most people don’t know that Stockholders and investors were neutered back in the 1980s.

Good find.

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-07-30 06:31:59

NH hospitals facing upheaval as the state slashes medicaid reimbursements. This is just the latest of quite a few hospitals forced to lay off staff and quite a few hospitals are suing the state for their reimbursements.

“After the state slashed Medicaid reimbursements, everything is on the table when it comes to potential cuts at Exeter Hospital.

Potential cuts include the hospital and its affiliates terminating their contract with Medicaid all together, closing facilities, eliminating staff and putting a halt to funding several community-based programs.

Earlier this week, Exeter Health Resources (EHR), the parent company of Exeter Hospital, and its affiliates joined nine other hospitals in suing the state over the Medicaid reimbursement cuts.

The hospitals are seeking an injunction to stop the changes enacted by the state Legislature when the budget became law July 1.”

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110728/NEWS/110729769/-1/NEWSMAP

I haven’t heard a peep of this possibility in NY. In fact as I’ve mentioned numerous times it’s a good time to be in medicine in CNY. We’ve seen a few out of state doctors move in here and buy some incredibly nice digs so they’re putting quite a few eggs in the basket of confidence that the status quo will hold.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 07:01:59

Who else are they going to treat? The High Deductible Plan crowd avoids seeing the doctor like the plague, and that group is growing like a cancer. That pretty much leaves Medicare, and we all know what they want to do with that.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 07:43:01

“… state slashes medicaid reimbursements…” “… hostpitals forced to lay off staff …”

Cuts, cuts, cuts. Shrink, shrink, shrink. Contract, contract, contract.

This is the result of deflation pure and simple, and it is happening right before your eyes.

But just wait … in a post or two from now we are going to get to see signs of hyperinflation running rampant everywhere.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 08:45:27

Cuts, cuts, cuts. Shrink, shrink, shrink. Contract, contract, contract.

This is the result of deflation pure and simple, and it is happening right before your eyes.

Pure and simple? All or nothing? I don’t think so. There is not one “side” to this issue. Sometimes cuts are necessitated because of inflation. The way I see it, somethings are inflating while some are deflating. There is no “all or nothing” in this discussion.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 08:53:19

somethings are inflating while some are deflating.

lol,

I guess I’d buy the deflating “somethings”.

some things

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 10:30:15

This is the result of deflation pure and simple

Is that why health insurance premiums keep rising at double digit percentage rates and we keep getting crappier and crappier insurance at the office?

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 11:16:27

The insurance companys are screwed just as everyone else that depends on getting a return on their money is screwed.

Their finances are set up to get eight-percent-or-so on their float, but we no longer live in an eight-percent-return world so they have to eat it just as everyone else that depends on a return has to eat it.

In an inflationary world an eight-percent return is doable, but in the deflationary world we live in today and eight-percent return is not doable. Thus the insurance companys have to raise prices and cut outflows.

This not a defense of insurance companies, just an explanation - an explanation of some of the effects of deflation

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 16:13:48

I love your convoluted logic. The price of everything except real estate is going through the roof, yet I’m supposed to believe that there is “deflation”.

Whatever.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 18:07:45

You forgot wages. Funny how you forgot that since the price of labor - ours as compared to somebody elses - is key to our problems.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 11:23:05

They must have run out of drums at the music store, so you only have one to beat, eh?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:35:41

Combo, I’m beginning to see that you’ve never lived through stagflation.

While I agree with most of your posts, on stagflation, you’re really way off the mark.

Stagnation of wages + inflation = stagflation

The ONLY things I see dropping price is labor and RE.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 15:05:42

I’ve lived through stagflation just as anyone my age has. But the periods of stagflation I lived through was brought about during inflationary times by financial situations involving liquidity.

The economic times we face today do not involve issues of liquidity, they involve issues of insolvency, which makes it an entirely different ballgame.

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Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 15:25:21

It’s the same situation as the 1970s and the late 1980s (S&L). This is not new.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 06:45:53

Debt-ceiling crisis: Why won’t Republicans compromise?

The hardcore Republican debt hawks fueled by November’s tea party victories say that Congress has historically gone back on promised spending cuts. So far, they are refusing to budge without some guarantee that the cuts will actually materialize.

Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz of Utah (left) and Jim Jordan of Ohio are leading debt hawks in the House. They both voted against the Republican plan to raise the debt ceiling Friday, saying it didn’t go far enough to cut spending. They are seen here in the Capitol rotunda in Washington on July 22.

By Mark Sappenfield, Staff writer / July 30, 2011

As the United States moves closer to an Aug. 2 default on some of its payments – perhaps including checks for Social Security recipients and veterans – it is becoming ever clearer that the two most important numbers in the debt-ceiling crisis are 1982 and 1990.

In short, hardcore Republican debt hawks remain determined to prevent a repeat of those two years, even as a historic default that many economists say could seriously damage an already weak economy looms in less than three days.

What happened in those two years? Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush both agreed to tax increases after Congress promised to make even greater cuts to spending. In both cases, the tax increases took effect, the spending cuts did not.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 07:03:42

“… default on some of its payments - perhaps including checks for Social Security receipiants and veterans …”

Good! Bring it on!

Nothing else seems to get their attention, maybe this will do it!

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 07:12:59

Except they won’t go there (other than making scary MSM remarks), as Social Security is the “third rail” of politics.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 07:59:56

“There you go again,…” ronnie Raygun

The label on the “TrueAnger™” PeeParty tea toadlers new congressional dance party dress given loaned to them by the ““TruePathtoPro$perity™” repubican establishment” reads:

“Used & Abused Inc.”

(Designed by: “kick’em-to-the-curb” Inc.)

(Evangelical country of Origin: OurWay or the Hwy Islands)

Comment by iftheshoefits
2011-07-30 09:03:46

It must be a blissful existence, blaming all of the country’s troubles on nothing more than cartoon caricatures of people that happen to disagree with you on some things.

To each his own, dude.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 09:36:21

Blah, blah, blah… but, but, but...

heheeeheeeheehaahaaahaaheeehaahaaa… (Hwy50™)

Shrub Debacle: 5.07 Trillion
lil’ Opie Debacle: 1.44 Trillion

“Don’t let the blackman drive Miss Daisy!”

Obama’s and Bush’s effects on the deficit in one graph
Policy Changes under two Presidents
By Ezra Klein / 07/25/2011 / Washington Post

“What’s also important, but not evident, on this chart is that [lil' Opie’s] major expenses were temporary — the stimulus is over now — while [Shrub’s] were, effectively, recurring. The [Shrub] tax cuts didn’t just lower revenue for 10 years. It’s clear now that they lowered it indefinitely, which means this chart is understating their true cost. Similarly, the Medicare drug benefit is costing money on perpetuity, not just for two or three years. And Boehner, Ryan and others voted for these laws and, in some cases, helped to craft and pass them.

we’re not raising the debt ceiling because of the new policies passed in the past two years. We’re raising the debt ceiling because of the accumulated effect of policies passed in recent decades, many of them under Republicans. It’s convenient for whichever side isn’t in power, or wasn’t recently in power, to blame the debt ceiling on the other party. But it isn’t true.”

Whatever Dudette… ;-)

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Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 13:56:35

“The [Shrub] tax cuts didn’t just lower revenue for 10 years. It’s clear now that they lowered it indefinitely, which means this chart is understating their true cost. Similarly, the Medicare drug benefit is costing money on perpetuity, not just for two or three years. And Boehner, Ryan and others voted for these laws and, in some cases, helped to craft and pass them.”

These details are conveniently overlooked in the urgent debate over how much to cut and where to inflict pain.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2011-07-30 07:07:16

Insiders selling at unusually fast pace
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (MarketWatch)

In fact, one measure of that selling activity shows insiders of NYSE- and AMEX-listed companies recently were selling at the fastest rate since data began being collected in the early 1970s, four decades ago.

On the theory that insiders know more about their companies’ prospects than do the rest of us, this is an ominous sign.

Corporate insiders, of course, are a company’s officers, directors and largest shareholders. They are required to file a report with the Securities and Exchange Commission more or less immediately upon buying or selling shares of their companies, and the SEC makes those reports public.

One firm that gathers and analyzes the data is Argus Research, which publishes its findings in the Vickers Weekly Insider Report. One indicator that the firm calculates is a ratio of the number of shares that insiders have sold in the open market to the number that they have purchased.

In the week ending last Friday, according to the latest issue of the Vickers report, this sell-to-buy ratio stood at 6.43 to 1. This is higher than 95% of other weeks’ readings over the last decade.

That’s ominous enough, but consider last week’s sell-to-buy ratio for just those issues listed on the NYSE or AMEX. That came in at 13.10 to 1, which is the highest reading for this ratio since when Vickers began collecting the data, which was October 1974.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:39:21

I meant to comment on this yesterday.

This is a sure sign of more trouble ahead. It’s the EXACT same behavior that occurred just before the recession started.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2011-07-30 07:16:47

Apple has more cash than the U.S. Treasury
Apple is sitting on a pile of money that’s bigger than the Treasury’s dwindling balance. By David Sarno, Los Angeles Times

Apple Inc. may not have more money than God. But it’s got more cash than Uncle Sam.

As the government struggled to reach an agreement on raising the debt ceiling, the U.S. Treasury’s cash balance fell to $74 billion this week. That’s less than the $76 billion that Apple now has in cash.

It’s not terribly likely that the government will ask Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs for help. But it wouldn’t be the first time the government has asked for a bailout from an industry mogul.

In the mid-1890s, with the U.S. economy still recovering from the financial panic of 1893, the U.S. Treasury was in danger of going bankrupt as worried investors clamored to collect what they were owed from U.S. gold reserves. With few options left, President Cleveland met with New York financier J.P. Morgan, who pledged a whopping $60 million in gold. Adjusted for inflation, that would be about $1.5 billion today.

“The fact that Morgan had become a cosigner on the federal debt was what impressed the markets,” historian H.W. Brands wrote in his account “The Upside-Down Bailout.” “Within days the Treasury’s condition stabilized; within weeks the dollar’s danger had passed.”

To be fair, comparing Apple’s cash reserves with the Treasury’s is not exactly apples to apples.

Apple’s billions are essentially the funds in its bank accounts, while the federal number represents the amount of money the government has left before it hits the legal debt limit — a figure that can be changed by Congress.

At about $362 billion, Apple is the second-largest company in the world by market value (behind Exxon Mobil Corp. at $395 billion) — big by any standard, but still far smaller than the U.S. government, which will spend close to $3.8 trillion this year, 10 times what Apple is worth.

Still, Apple’s reasons for keeping such a giant cash stockpile may well be related to worries about the stability of the U.S. government’s finances.

“One of the reasons U.S. companies have amassed so much cash is that it provides them financial flexibility in times of heightened uncertainty,” said Laurie Simon Hodrick, a professor of business economics at Columbia University’s business school. “It might seem ironic, but as the risk of a government default grows, bringing with it the specter of higher interest rates, the incentives for firms to finance with internally generated cash grows as well.”

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 07:53:51

“It might seem ironic, but as the risk of a government default grows, bringing with it the specter of higher interest rates, the incentives for firms to finance with internally generated cash grows as well.”

Not only firms but also for individuals.

For those who are slow to get it, there is a vast shortage of what many here call “worthless fiats”.

Which means those who hold abundant supplies of the worthless rule over those who are chronically short of the stuff.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-07-30 10:32:19

There is no shortage, M1 and M2 hve been steadily rising. What is happening that that the elite have all the money.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:41:04

Bingo

…or maybe “YAHTZEE!”?

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Comment by butters
2011-07-30 12:17:43

How’s much of that is borrowed money with 0.01% interest?

 
 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 08:00:41

Failure to rasise the Debt Ceiling will bring the Recession to those who have not had one yet. That is all its going to do.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 08:38:49

eyes like such wi$hful thinking!

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 08:47:01

In my ‘what if” scenario, the stock indices drop by 67% in this new economic crisis. This leaves me with $800k in my net worth. I can handle it.

My buddy in L.A. thinks he will be laid off next week. He is now talking about retiring. I think he should consider it. He’s had enough of the screwy mismanagement at that company where he works. Sell his Hollywood house and South Bay condo and sell his Infiniti, buy a Honda economy car, move to Fresno. He bought a house for his sister there.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 08:59:03

This leaves me with $800k in my net worth.

My net worth is 5.7 million, no wait I mean 12.3 million.

(I forgot about my island)

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 09:18:07

My island is underwater (global warming, not mortgage), so that was a big hit to my net. I’m now awaiting my pumpkin harvest before I determine my current net worth.

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Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 11:26:33

My island is that little rock thing with the tiny tree that was selling for $25K (was it $25k?) In 2005. Old-timer HBB’ers will remember it. :-)

 
Comment by Robin
2011-07-30 23:16:34

Are you Joshing us? - :)

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-30 09:54:28

He’s had enough of the screwy mismanagement at that company where he works.
+
move to Fresno.

Outta the pot and into the fire. Yikes!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 16:37:10

“…the stock indices drop by 67% in this new economic crisis.”

If you are talking about nominal drops, I’m not seeing it. The Fed will definitely invoke QE3 before nominal stock market declines get anywhere near that large.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-07-30 09:43:03

And what will raising the debt ceiling do? Business as usual, kick the can down the road. Great plan!

Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 10:26:13

Which is exactly why we should be thanking the tea party “crazies” for throwing molotov cocktails and breaking up the status quo party that is enrichening the mega-rich. Throws a giant wrench in the whole fleecing of America scam.

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 11:37:05

You are far more optimistic than I am, as I am quite certain the mega-rich will find more opportunities to fleece the rest of America during the months of economic hardship that are sure to follow whatever comes out of the debt ceiling showdown.

I certainly hope I have to eat my words on this twelve months from now, but I am not optimistic.

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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:15:13

I don’t understand why you believe you will come out of this better off than before. Unless you are independently wealthy and can move offshore, you will be hurt by this next depression.

Even if you manage to escape the worst of the financial meltdown, the societal disruption will be terrible. We could see a range of effects from kidnappings for ransom to riots to the rise of militant organizations like the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation.

The collapse of the Roman Empire caused the Dark Ages. The Enlightment was about a thousand years later. A similar collapse of our interconnected world is not beyond the realm of possibility.

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Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 19:44:27

Fearmongers gettin’ to ya’?

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 19:47:11

Its time to stop the BS. Do you really want it to go on forever just because you are afraid? Really? You have been programmed well. Go buy some iPads and support the status quo.

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 19:50:28

I don’t expect to come out better. I am just tired of “them” always coming out better and more powerful every time there is a “crisis”. It simply has to stop.

 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 12:17:01

Yeah. That is all I am seeing out of “raising the debt ceiling” - it makes the disease called “big government” even worse. It’s a heroin-like addiction. The cure is a balanced budget. The American public won’t be harmed by a balanced budget amendment. The harm will be to the politicians because they know they won’t be able to use their smoke and mirrors to hide the tax increases to pay for it. And they know very well the tax increases would have to be substantial and would affect Main Street - not just the wealthy. There would be a revolution against big government if those increases would happen. Thus no balanced budget amendment.

On the other hand I see why they are dead set on raising the debt ceiling. It’s because of the bond ratings and they do not want to default on the creditors. They fear the wrath of the creditors. And they will raise taxes anyway.

The US government painted itself into a corner.

The best thing for Main Street is to have ten to twenty percent of assets in precious metals bullion.

The American empire is doomed. But that won’t really be the end to America. We will be forced to stop being world cop. China will start gobbling up other nations, starting with Taiwan. We will be too weak to stop them.

 
 
 
Comment by Awaiting
2011-07-30 09:17:12

“What’s The Matter With Kansas?”
Thank you HBB’ers for the introduction to the book and Documentary. (Full viewing free on HULU.) It was an eye opener.

Comment by oxide
2011-07-30 11:28:01

If you really want to be scared, view “Jesus Camp.” If it’s not on Hulu, you can view it in 9 or so segments on YouTube.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-07-30 11:28:24

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/30/us-contractor-in-iraq-charges-pentagon-00-for-7-control-switch-report-finds/

No wonder McSame never met a neo-con military misadventure he didn’t like. His Defense Contractor pals are making obscene profits at taxpayer expense, all in the name of “keeping us safe.”

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 13:49:29

This is news? :lol:

However, still a good find.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-07-30 11:51:42

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that the validity of the public debt of the United States “shall not be questioned. Defaulting would be “questioning” our debt.

One could make a case that Pres. Obama might have to go the 14th Amendment route just to uphold his Constitutional oath.

(I’m not a Constitutional scholar but I’ve read a lot of John Grisham’s books.)

Comment by howiewowie
2011-07-30 17:11:45

Thing is there’s enough money to cover the debts. It’s everything else that would go unfunded.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:34:58

“Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”

Pensions are specifically mentioned in the 14th, so those also have to be paid.

I had seen Section 4 quoted, but Section 5 is also interesting and is probably the basis of McConnell’s proposal to authorize the President to raise the debt ceiling.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 11:58:05

July 28, 2011, 2:01 PM ET

Foreclosure Filings Down Across the Country
By Wesley Lowery

Foreclosure activity has fallen throughout the country, slowed by paperwork problems rather than an improvement in the market.

During the first six months of 2011, 84% of U.S. cities with populations of 200,000 or higher posted declines in new foreclosure activity, according to a study released today by RealtyTrac, a real-estate research firm. Foreclosure activity slowed in 178 of the nation’s 211 metropolitan areas when compared with last year.

Of the country’s 20 largest metro areas, Seattle was the sole market to post an increase in foreclosure activity, with 1 in every 98 housing units receiving a foreclosure filing, up 10 percent from the first half of 2010. “Foreclosures have slowed down not because of a recovery of the market, but simply because of procedural delays,” said Rick Sharga, senior vice president at RealtyTrac.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 12:31:49

“slowed by paperwork problems”

As in, ‘We don’t have the paperwork, if it has to be real and legal and stuff. We got government out of the way, and streamlined things the free market way.’

O-oh, MERSy, MERSY me…

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:44:11

Most amazingly, robber-signing by Megabank, Inc continues unabated, despite all the negative press. Who’d've thunk those threatened wrist slaps would fail to scare the banksters into subjugating to the Rule of Law which governs the rest of America?

Everyone is so fixated on the debt ceiling negotiations, that the attention is pretty much off banksters behaving badly.

SPECIAL REPORT:
Banks still robo-signing, filing doubtful foreclosure documents
Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:39pm EDT

* . U.S. banks continue banned practices despite pact with feds
* . Banks that settled continue filing questionable paperwork:
* . Reuters identifies 6 robo-signers still pumping out documents

By Scot J. Paltrow

NEW YORK/IMMOKALEE, Florida, July 18 (Reuters) - America’s leading mortgage lenders vowed in March to end the dubious foreclosure practices that caused a bruising scandal last year.

But a Reuters investigation finds that many are still taking the same shortcuts they promised to shun, from sketchy paperwork to the use of “robo-signers.”

In its effort to seize the two-bedroom ranch house of 87-year-old Margery Gunter in this down-on-its-luck Florida town, OneWest Bank recently filed a court document that appears riddled with discrepancies. Mrs. Gunter, who has lived in the house for 40 years and gets around with the aid of a walker, stopped paying her loan back in 2009, her lawyer concedes. To foreclose, the bank submitted to the Collier County clerk’s office on March 3 a “mortgage assignment,” a document essential to proving who owns a mortgage once the original lender sells it off.

But OneWest’s paperwork is problematic. Among the snags: state law permits lenders to file to foreclose only if they already legally own a mortgage. Yet the key document establishing ownership wasn’t signed and officially recorded until months after OneWest filed to foreclose on Mrs. Gunter. OneWest declined to comment on the case.

Reuters has found that some of the biggest U.S. banks and other “loan servicers” continue to file questionable foreclosure documents with courts and county clerks. They are using tactics that late last year triggered an outcry, multiple investigations and temporary moratoriums on foreclosures.

In recent months, servicers have filed thousands of documents that appear to have been fabricated or improperly altered, or have sworn to false facts.

Reuters also identified at least six “robo-signers,” individuals who in recent months have each signed thousands of mortgage assignments — legal documents which pinpoint ownership of a property. These same individuals have been identified — in depositions, court testimony or court rulings — as previously having signed vast numbers of foreclosure documents that they never read or checked.

Among them: Christina Carter, an employee of Ocwen Loan Servicing of West Palm Beach, Florida, a “sub-servicer” which handles routine mortgage tasks for banks. Her signature — just two “C”s — has appeared on thousands of mortgage assignments and other documents this year.

In a case involving a foreclosure by HSBC Bank USA, a New York state court judge this month called Carter a “known robo-signer” and said he’d found multiple variations of her two-letter signature on documents, raising questions about whether others were using her name. That and other red flags prompted the judge to take the extraordinary step of threatening to sanction HSBC’s chief executive officer.

In a phone interview, Carter acknowledged signing large numbers of mortgage assignments this year, but said they all were legally done. To her knowledge, she added, no one else used her name.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 20:16:58

“Carter acknowledged signing large numbers of mortgage assignments this year, but said they all were legally done. To her knowledge, she added, no one else used her name.”

I hope they pay their fall guys/robo-signers well.

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Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-07-30 12:13:47

Hey Blue Skye, thanks much for being willing to share your live-aboard info yesterday. Much appreciated!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 14:11:33

Eve Shreve Set Fire With Foreclosure Docs: Police
Simon McCormack First Posted: 7/27/11 10:09 AM ET Updated: 7/27/11 10:19 AM ET

CORRY, Pa. (Associated Press) — Police say a northwestern Pennsylvania woman tried to smother her adult son then attempted suicide after setting fire to her home with a foreclosure notice.

The Erie Times-News reports 47-year-old Eve Shreve was arraigned Tuesday on charges including attempted homicide and arson in the March 18 fire in Corry.

Police say Shreve’s husband told officers his wife had admitted setting the fire using foreclosure papers received the day before and then attempted to kill herself. Investigators say medical records support their case.

Corry Police Chief Fred Corbett says authorities also determined the two small fires were intentionally set.

Shreve was released on $5,000 bail. A phone call to her attorney rang unanswered early Wednesday.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2011-07-30 14:37:09

Amid the crisis, staying the course…

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/insights/article/ici-reid-interview-05182011

Worked for me.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:28:14

Until it doesn’t.

 
 
Comment by Traderjack
2011-07-30 16:05:27

Why does anyone say that the president spent the money.

Only the house can recommend spending money, and only the Senate can agree, and the president only gets to approve or disapprove the spending.

Blaming the president for spending is like blaming the husband for the money the wife spends.

Blame the Legislature, that you voted for!

I find it difficult that anyone can believe that giving the government more money will improve production of goods in this country!

You want to create jobs in the USA . eliminate the EPA!

Or at least prevent them from controlling production businesses.

If you don’t pay taxes it is easy to recommend that taxes be increased on those that do!

Oh well.

traderjack

Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 16:32:53

“Why does anyone say that the president spent the money.”

Because the bought MSM lets Republicans get away with bald-faced lies.

Comment by Traderjack
2011-07-30 17:39:50

Is that why I am seeing the Democrats in the Senate saying it was Bush that spent all of the money?

And that Obama was only continuing the programs that Bush started?

amazing how political wisdom is shown in various forms.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 16:35:10

“You want to create jobs in the USA . eliminate the EPA!”

There is a great story to be told about how environmental protection killed the American production economy. Nobody has told it just yet because the Greenies are too politically powerful, scaring most would-be story tellers from telling the truth. But the apple is there for the brave to pick it.

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-07-30 18:29:34

So we should let corporations run amok?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 18:33:22

Oh bull. Pollution was out of control 30 years ago and is STILL a problem.

American production was killed by corporate raiding, deregulation, tax breaks for offshoring jobs and the deep resistance by most manufacturers to upgrading and making their production lines more efficient.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-31 00:06:41

There is a great story to be told about how environmental protection killed the American production economy.

No one near you has had the effects of a natural element like mercury make a lasting impression on your family? Thought not.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-07-31 00:15:19

You want to create jobs in the USA . eliminate the EPA!

Or at least prevent them from controlling production businesses.

Wow, eyes had a strange after effect of a new Scotch, here’s 100 proof:

kitchen table quizz:
“… ok, rearrange the following letters to spell a SCOTU$ Inc. person:

traderjack = MON$ANTO :-)

 
 
Comment by Traderjack
2011-07-30 16:10:12

I think this letter explains the problem very well, if you haven’t seen it. Long, but, in my opinion, worth reading

http://www.denninger.net/letters/mccain-daucher.pdf

From Aug 2008

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-07-30 16:32:33

Realtors Are Liars®

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 18:02:42

Jobless Recovery hits chicken farm industry in NC:

1000 layoffs overnight-

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/30/2491233/chicken-plant-closings-deal-blow.html

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 18:13:25

“1000 layoffs overnight.”

Poof goes the jobs. Poof goes the money these jobs used to recycle through the economy.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-07-30 18:29:25

*poof* goes the taxes those paychecks used to pay.

Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 19:52:50

Lol. Welcome to the Deflation Camp.

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Comment by combotechie
2011-07-30 20:06:28

In the Stagflationary days of the Seventies those who had jobs were pushed into higher and higher tax brackets because their pay rose as prices rose. This caused tax revenues to rise.

Now just the opposite is occuring. Today tax revenues are falling because the number of employees is falling - both full time and part time - and the wages of the employees are falling - both full time and part time.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 18:05:37

A house divided cannot stand.

Last-minute debt deal still eludes Congress

In public, at least, neither Democrats nor Republicans show much inclination to work out an accord as the clock ticks toward a federal default.

By James Oliphant and Lisa Mascaro, Washington Bureau

July 30, 2011, 5:53 p.m.
Reporting from Washington—

Efforts to reach a last-minute deal to stave off a potentially disastrous federal default remained at an impasse Saturday as House Republicans engaged in some psychological warfare and their colleagues in the Senate seemed poised to block a key vote on a bid by Democrats to raise the debt ceiling.

With just days to go until the federal government’s authority to borrow money expires, neither Democrats nor Republicans showed much inclination to bridge their differences and hammer out a deal.

Instead, the action — at least the events playing out in public view — suggested that partisan distrust remained as high as ever. The House convened only to take a purely symbolic thumbs-down vote on a debt plan crafted by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), even though that plan hasn’t yet cleared the Senate.

In the meantime, Senate Republicans said they would filibuster a vote planned for just after midnight on Reid’s revised proposal.

Reid spent the day trying to persuade Republicans to support some version of his plan; he would need seven to break a filibuster. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) was one of a few who sounded ready to work with him.

We’re angry, frustrated and mad here too,” she said on the Senate floor. “I would like to suggest that as the hours wind down, we come together as a body here in the Senate and in the House to find a compromise.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:46:04

Prison time is a great sanction!

Judge threatens to sanction CEO of HSBC for ‘robo-signing’
By Jonathan D. Epstein
NEWS BUSINESS REPORTER
Published:July 30, 2011, 12:00 AM

A State Supreme Court justice in Brooklyn is threatening sanctions against the chief executive officer of HSBC Bank USA, blaming her personally as head of the bank for filing what he called false and misleading documents involving “robosigning” in a home foreclosure case.

In a complex decision issued in early July, Justice Arthur M. Schack denounced what he called the “frivolous conduct” and the submission of fraudulent paperwork by HSBC and the attorney representing it in the case, Frank M. Cassara of Shapiro, DiCaro&Barak LLP in Rochester.

He said the documentation submitted to the court by Cassara and HSBC to support the foreclosure is full of defects and “material factual statements that are false.” And he criticized their case as a “waste of judicial resources.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:48:34

AP Exclusive: Mortgage ‘robo-signing’ goes on
By MICHELLE CONLIN, AP Business Writers – Jul 18, 2011

Mortgage industry employees are still signing documents they haven’t read and using fake signatures more than eight months after big banks and mortgage companies promised to stop the illegal practices that led to a nationwide halt of home foreclosures.

County officials in at least three states say they have received thousands of mortgage documents with questionable signatures since last fall, suggesting that the practices, known collectively as “robo-signing,” remain widespread in the industry.

The documents have come from several companies that process mortgage paperwork, and have been filed on behalf of several major banks. One name, “Linda Green,” was signed almost two dozen different ways.

Lenders say they are working with regulators to fix the problem but cannot explain why it has persisted.

Last fall, the nation’s largest banks and mortgage lenders, including JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America and an arm of Goldman Sachs, suspended foreclosures while they investigated how corners were cut to keep pace with the crush of foreclosure paperwork.

Critics say the new findings point to a systemic problem with the paperwork involved in home mortgages and titles. And they say it shows that banks and mortgage processors haven’t acted aggressively enough to put an end to widespread document fraud in the mortgage industry.

“Robo-signing is not even close to over,” says Curtis Hertel, the recorder of deeds in Ingham County, Mich., which includes Lansing. “It’s still an epidemic.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:49:44

Robo-Signing Still an Epidemic
Posted by Carole VanSickle on Tuesday, July 19th 2011

Although foreclosure servicers have, for the most part, cleaned up their act under intense public scrutiny, robo-signing is still rampant in many areas of the mortgage industry, alleges the associated press, citing an investigation that, among other things, found the signature “Linda Green” signed more than 20 different ways in just one firm[1]. The Linda Green in questions actually worked for a company that processed mortgage paperwork and was shut down more than a year ago. Yet based on these documents, she is still signing away.

The study raises concerns that although the foreclosure processes in many major lenders may be on the mend, other servicing acts may still be barely, if at all, legitimate. According to the AP, “county officials in at least three states say they have received thousands of mortgage documents with questionable signatures wince last fall,” with lenders responding that they “cannot explain why the practice…has continued”[2]. An investigation in Salem, Massachusetts, for example, yielded so many robo-signed signatures that the local registrar of deeds concluded that about 3.5 percent of all homeowners in the county probably have paperwork on file with fraudulent paperwork (that’s more than 25,000 homeowners in Salem County alone). “Robo-signing is not even close to over,” says Curtis Hertel, recorder of deeds in Ingham County, MI, calling the issue an epidemic. “My office is a crime scene,” adds the registrar of deeds in Salem.

And the paperwork is not all foreclosure-related anymore. In fact, much of it is for refinancing or for new purchases by people “in good standing in the eyes of the bank.” What do you think should be done about robo-signing when it is not related to foreclosures?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:52:44

Isn’t document forgery a felony? Why aren’t perpetrators going to prison for committing these document forgery crimes?

RPT-Behind foreclosure corner-cutting, troves of missing documents
Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:00pm EDT
By Scot J. Paltrow

NEW YORK, July 18 (Reuters) - Why have sketchy mortgage procedures been so difficult to root out? Some lawyers blame misguided efforts to cut costs. Most foreclosures are uncontested, they note. And so servicers save money by avoiding costly searches for missing original documents or hiring additional staff to deal with the surge in foreclosures.

There are signs, however, that servicers resort to doubtful documents because they have no choice if they are determined to foreclose: To a great extent, originals simply don’t exist.

It’s one of the overlooked legacies of the housing boom.

In the rush to make new home loans and sell them off as fast as possible to investors on Wall Street, the original lenders –big banks as well as now defunct makers of subprime loans –destroyed original documents, or never turned them over as required to the ownership pools that scooped them up. From 2004 through the end of the housing boom in 2006, more than half of all new mortgages were securitized and sold to such pools, known as mortgage-securitization trusts, according to the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association.

So, banks and intermediaries in many cases never turned over the two essential documents underpinning a home loan — promissory notes and mortgages — that would convey ownership to the investor trusts. That means many pension funds, insurance companies and hedge funds that invested in the trusts never got formal title to mortgages they had paid for.

One example: Public records in foreclosure cases indicate that New Century Mortgage, the nation’s second-largest subprime lender until it collapsed in 2007, almost never endorsed promissory notes or assigned mortgages to trusts that bought its mortgages.

A Reuters sampling of 50 foreclosure cases filed in Duval County, Florida, involving New Century mortgages found that none of the promissory notes filed in the cases had any endorsements at all on them. Records show that similar large-scale lapses occurred with other big lenders.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 21:03:33

“There are signs, however, that servicers resort to doubtful documents because they have no choice if they are determined to foreclose: To a great extent, originals simply don’t exist.”

Which was exactly my prediction.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:54:57

Since when is document forgery not a felony offense, punishable by hard time?

Does it somehow make it different if banks were involved?

The Deep End
Insight and investigations from our expert reporters
Fake documents suggest bigger problem
Jul 19, 2011 15:37 EDT

Action in March by federal bank regulators wasn’t enough to scare banks away from the way they handled foreclosures. Reuters found that big banks that service mortgage loans continue to use robo-signers, file false documents and mislead courts in their efforts to take houses from homeowners delinquent on their mortgages.

The findings point to the need for a widespread audit of mortgage documentation by federal bank regulators, a step they have so far strongly resisted. The pervasive use of questionable documents in foreclosures suggests that the cause is deeper than just corner-cutting by mortgage loan servicers. It suggests that to a large extent, original lenders never turned over the required ownership documents when pools of new mortgages were securitized and sold to investors. Investors may have spent billions to buy mortgages they never received.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-07-30 21:09:15

“original lenders never turned over the required ownership documents when pools of new mortgages were securitized and sold to investors. Investors may have spent billions to buy mortgages they never received.”

Deregulation at work!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 21:10:03

I know that document forgery is a felony offense in other industries besides banking; take, for instance, the document forging industry:

There was this fellow a few years back named Mark Hofmann who was highly successful in his document forgery business until he got caught. Now he is serving a life sentence in the Utah State Penitentiary. I don’t know how much of his prison sentence is due to his forgery crimes compared to others (e.g. murder).

For those who are interested, the whole story is told in riveting detail in the book A Gathering of Saints.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 21:14:12

If a foreclosed homeowner can prove forgery charges in court against a robo-signing lender, is there a chance the tables could be turned and lending officers be sent to prison?

If so, I see a promising opening for lawyers with fraudulently-foreclosed clientele. It would be even better if fraudulently-foreclosed homeowners could sue for and win personal damages.

Forgery

The business world relies heavily on the production and exchange of legitimate documents to express legal rights and obligations, prove important facts, and exchange vital information. When these documents are falsified in any way, a crime known as forgery, social order and stability are challenged. Forgery is any act involving the making, altering or possessing of illegitimate or false documents which are intended to deceive or defraud another person or organization. Forgery of written information in the business world is committed in order to cheat a person, company, or government organization out of goods, services, money, or even information.

Fraud and forgery are similar offenses, both of which are carried out to deceive another and seek some gain that their expense. Fraud, however, is a crime that typically involves general intent, while forgery involves a specific purpose and a specific mental state (mens reas). For forgery to be a criminal act, the person must have committed forgery with the intent to deceive or defraud another. Forgery is considered a felony crime by the federal government and all fifty states. A person convicted of forgery can face heavy penalties including incarceration, heavy fines, probation, community service, the loss of some civil privileges and more.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-07-30 19:58:16

Chart of the Day: The Housing Market Is Worse Than You Think
By Daniel Indiviglio
Jul 25 2011, 4:08 PM ET

Has the state of the housing market gotten better or worse since the first quarter of 2009? To answer this, you have to define what you mean by the state of the housing market. If you mean sales alone, then the state of the market hasn’t changed much: existing home sales are up a little from that time, while new home sales are down a bit. But assessing the inventory of defaulted, unsold homes in the market probably provides a better measure of health.

The following chart created by Laurie Goodman, a housing market expert at Amherst Securities, shows the ominous rise of shadow foreclosure inventory. It was part of a slide in a presentation she recently gave at an event last week at the American Enterprise Institute on how the Dodd-Frank financial regulation bill is stifling mortgage credit. Click to enlarge:

[CHART SHOWN HERE IN THE LINKED STORY]

This chart answers the question: what’s happening to the homes of all those defaulted borrowers that we hear about? Many of those properties are a part of so-called shadow inventory. This is the sort of limbo between when a home’s loan defaults and when the property is put on the market for purchase.

The increase shown above is staggering. The shaded area shows mortgages more than 12 months delinquent or in foreclosure (darker blue) and those seized by the bank (lighter blue). The sum has risen from just below 2 million in early 2009 to 3.35 million in April 2011. That’s an increase of more than 67.5% over this period of about two years.

Also interesting: despite accumulating more defaulted properties, banks are very careful not to increase the number of loans sold very much. Loans sold has been very steady from 80,000 to 95,000 over this period. So recently prices have begun declining again even though the inventory for homes available for sale is being kept relatively low compared to the number that should actually be available to buyers.

According to Goodman’s presentation, even though homes sold are only about 90,000 per month, inventory is growing by around 60,000 per month. So the homes sold each month would have to increase by two-thirds just to keep up with the growing inventory — not to begin to cut the 3.35 million homes in the shadows. To conjure up enough demand to meet 150,000 sales instead of just 90,000, home prices would almost certainly have to fall faster.

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-07-30 20:33:28

I aint afraid of no Ku Klux Klan.

 
Comment by Traderjack
2011-07-30 21:46:37

the robosigners have to sign to earn there $10 an hour, their bosses don’t care because they have to get the work out, the heads don’t care because they don’t know it is happening, and the country doesn’t care because it is not a big showy crime, just a bunch of peons doing jobes.

It is up to the courts to handle the problem, by having the staff checking the stuff, and then throwing the foreclosures out with predjudice, and making the companies take the loss.

that, of course, would mean that the courts would have to be immune from corruption, and that might be the sticking point of the solution.

Perhaps whistleblowers should be compensated for reporting felonious actions by their companies, and get a percentage of the recovery from the investors for the failed loans.

 
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