Terminology matters not at this point, all that matters is the aggregate reduction in household purchasing power in an economy driven 71% by consumer spending.
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Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-08-03 07:20:44
Not if you are the 10% at the top. Then what to you care about the median household purchasing power.
Question: Should it be prices that determine whether the economic environment is inflationary or deflationary or should it be money flow?
I think it should be money flow. Prices can be listed where ever the seller wants to list them but if the money does not flow then a transaction will not occur. If not enough transactions occur - if not enough money flows - then a merchant will go out of business.
General Mills raised its prices because it anticipates a volume decline of the products it sells. (IMO this is an excellent way to go out of business.) In the meantime its stats of price increases adds to stats of other price increases and gives the illusion that the economy is inflating. But remember, the sales volume is down, so the flow of cash is down, which means that the the forces of deflation are at hand, not the forces of inflation - that’s if one wants to use as a gauge money flow rather than prices.
And isn’t this what we are seeing in RE in a lot of places. Don’t we see high prices but no sales volume, meaning no cash flow? If we were to use prices as a guage then we would see a stable RE market. But if we were to use cash flow as a guage then we would be seeing something different.
Money flow? Yes, there’s plenty of it sloshing around the Hamptons, Aspen, Davos, et cetera. But it ain’t on Main Street. J6P doesn’t care about or understand the velocity of money. What he understands (because he’s living it) is the Misery Index: inflation % + unemployment %. Combo, have you been grocery shopping lately?
I use to go a lot…After the kids left the house and its just the Mrs. & I have not been in a long time…On a road trip a few weeks ago I went shopping for a BBQ party of 8…I was Shocked…I guess that’s why places like McDee’s are doing so well…Dollar meals…
Dave, We have a garden, 5000 sq ft of lush, fertile soil
that is enriched each year. We grow a lot of good, fresh
food that we either can, freeze, or dry. The Mrs. and I
both like good, healthy foods.
Please note that we did this because we liked good,
fresh food. We do it know because it saves us a bundle
of money at the store.
Seed and start-ups at the feed store and the Grange
doubled two years ago, and doubled again this spring.
Gardens are going in everywhere. Backyard lawns are
disappearing and bean trestles are in place.
Gardening is a learned art. It takes years to have a
successful garden every year, and then, like this year,
the weather screws up the cycles and your yield drops.
We only planted 35 tomato plants this year and we
have yet to see a red one — and this is august.
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Comment by Montana
2011-08-03 08:59:25
Same tomato issues here rancher! what’s up, anyway?
Yeah Rancher…Being that my family lives right there next to you I am keenly aware of the terrible winter you guys had…Thats what has pushed your growing cycle so far back…Now your getting the heat…I understand it was 95 or so yesterday…
Comment by Rancher
2011-08-03 09:53:30
We had the wettest March in history and it stayed
chilly for most of the spring. Ground temps never
had a chance to warm up. Now with the heat, high
80’s mostly, the chile’s are coming in, squash is
doing great, tomatoes growing and will turn in a week or so. Snap peas and beans are doing great.
We are about six weeks behind normal.
Every three years we use the cat with 24 inch rippers and stir in about 14 yards of steer, chicken, and rabbit fertilizer and compost. So everything is opened up and blended down to 30 inches. Water retention is good and so is the drainage. We use a combination of drip and sprinkled irrigation water supplied by the GP irrigation district and we’re at the end of one of the lines with a 44 gallon per minute water flow.
It’s a lot easier than moving 7 foot wheel lines around every 12 hours.
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-08-03 11:33:03
Every three years we use the cat with 24 inch rippers and stir in about 14 yards of steer, chicken, and rabbit fertilizer and compost. So everything is opened up and blended down to 30 inches. Water retention is good and so is the drainage. We use a combination of drip and sprinkled irrigation water supplied by the GP irrigation district and we’re at the end of one of the lines with a 44 gallon per minute water flow.
Oh yea?!……..
Well….
…..well we got 4 upside-down tomato plants and some real herbs growing out on the veranda…and we have a water faucet with a rubber hose out there too…
Comment by cactus
2011-08-03 11:56:10
Rancher what do you do for insect pests ? maybe thats not a problem yet ?
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
I tried some spagetti squash but they did poorly I will say the climate here in Ventura County is near perfect probably why the land is sooooo expensive
I found insect soap mixed with nicotine works pretty well on many pests it makes nicotine sulfate posionous so be careful
had lots of predatory mites this year so no spider mite !! have white fly but it’s on the hibiscus so I really don’t care too much about it just knock it down with the soap.
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-03 12:04:46
Rancher,
The worst part about prices not falling locally is the years of knowledge gains that are not going on while we wait.
Stupid question but do you have to buy seeds every year or is there a way to cultivate your own? I realize I’m getting into the whole Monsanto thing here. I’m just really fuzzy on reallity.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-08-03 12:45:36
Did you ever get any grass to grow, Rio? (The kind you stand on and mow?)
Rancher- You should look into no-till farming. Better for the soil and your plants, and easier in the long run.
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-03 13:03:24
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
You do? And where does one buy these seeds, cactus?
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-08-03 13:06:01
Did you ever get any grass to grow, Rio?
No. Not yet. The houses are like NY row houses but I’m not finished yet. I’m going to have a little strip of one someday like the guy in the army did.
Comment by Rancher
2011-08-03 13:35:08
No till farming works, but…..it is very expensive in that you control weeds with chemicals (herbicides)
and the weeds are beginning to be resistant to the
herbicides. Some grow up to three inches a day and are tough enough to damage farm equipment.
To give you an idea how well are plants grow, on
the seed packs of spaghetti squash, it will tell you
to plant 6 feet apart on four foot rows. We have to
plant them 10 feet apart on 8 foot rows. We have
one melon plant now that stretches over 20 feet.
We relied on fertilizers and higher than normal plants per acre to crowd out unwanted growth.
Plus when farming alfalfa, you only plant every
five years. We averaged 6 tons an acre and
bailed for the horse market.
As for seeds, you can let some of the plants go to seed, called “headed” but it can also be a pain since
some will escape the bag and you’ll find lettuce
coming up everywhere the next season.
Never, ever buy genetically modified seed. Use
heirloom seeds for the best result and taste.
We will dust with a sulfur mix if the bugs get to
busy, but mostly we rotate where we plant and
what we plant because some plants have natural
toxins that inhibit insects.
Google “natural pesticides” to get a better answer
There’s lots of good recipes, more than I can remember.
Comment by Kim
2011-08-03 13:39:13
“We only planted 35 tomato plants this year and we
have yet to see a red one — and this is August.”
Oh good… its not just me!! Last week was my day to tend to our church’s volunteer garden (the bounty goes into the food pantry). The tomatos were falling-off-the-vine huge, but there wasn’t a red one in the entire group. I emailed the coordinator in charge of the garden asking whether she planted a green variety. I never got a response.
Comment by Rancher
2011-08-03 13:59:33
What we don’t use, we give some to our Doctor’s and Dentists office, with the majority of it going to the local rescue mission.
Comment by cactus
2011-08-03 17:01:16
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
You do? And where does one buy these seeds, cactus?”
FWIW, the Federal Reserve says that M1 and M2 hve been climbing steadiliy.
Regardless, as long as people have to pay more for the basic goods they consume they will perceive it as inflation, even if the money supply is shrinking.
I also think that comparing asking prices for houses with the price of goods at the grocery store is disingenous. You don’t have to buy a house at all, but you have to eat to survive. You need to wear clothes and you have to put gas in your car’s tank.
“Regardless, as long as people have to pay more for the basic goods they consume they will perceive it as inflation…”
Which gets to my point. People “perceive” inflation because of higher prices. But they don’t necessarily buy things that are priced higher, they end up buying things that are priced cheaper.
General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. This will no doubt add to to the volume decline because people will balk at paying the higher prices. But people will register in their minds the higher prices and complain about them even though they end up spending their money on something else.
“General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. ”
In other words, only people with money left over will buy the cereal; i.e. The poor will be left out again. Since General Mills is mostly sugar, maybe this isn’t a bad thing. On the other hand, the alternative is likely to be no breakfast at all.
By the way, in another example of inflation, I’ve noticed that cold cuts — beef especially — are 7-ounce packages instead of the usual half-pound. Even more insidious, they contain “up to 15% of a salt solution.” Is it just me, or didn’t that salt solution used to be 7% or 10%?
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Comment by combotechie
2011-08-03 06:41:42
“The poor will be left out again.”
My focus is trying to determine what is happening, not on who is being left out or is not being left out.
Being left out is a result of whatever it is that is happening. If one can understand what is happening then maybe one can protect himself from being left out.
Comment by rusty
2011-08-03 07:07:53
On the other hand, the alternative is likely to be no breakfast at all.
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More kids on the free lunch program, let’s borrow more money to pay for it!
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-03 07:18:42
Yes Oxide,
I do believe the salt solution content used to be 7% to 10%. And I was just thinking that I’ve been resurrecting my baking and cooking from scratch skills as many of the products I once enjoyed have been cheapened to the point where they are no longer enjoyed. Quality ingredients and quantity has been minimized too much and I find the idea of picking up something in its previous form pops into my head and then I remember its been reduced to mere junk status and I’m not interested anymore.
Better them then some of the fat a$$ I see in the check out line…Pretty disgusting really to watch someone that is clearly obese eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…Can’t even wait to get out of the store…Handed the check-out clerk the empty bag to scan it…
Comment by Montana
2011-08-03 09:01:01
Package cereals are disgustingly expensive compared to bulk oats, especially the kiddie stuff.
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-08-03 09:38:01
in the check out line……eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…
In economics that’s called “market efficiency” I think.
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-03 10:03:19
Better them then some of the fat a$$ I see in the check out line…Pretty disgusting really to watch someone that is clearly obese eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…Can’t even wait to get out of the store…Handed the check-out clerk the empty bag to scan it…
That’s why I enjoy shopping in places like the Food Conspiracy Co-op. The lard-butts just aren’t there.
Matter of fact, I was talking with a fellow shopper earlier this year. Lady was in fine shape, and I thought she was just a year or two older than me. (I’m 53.)
Then she said that she was 71. I couldn’t believe it.
Eat right, stay in shape. You’ll avoid a lot of trouble that way.
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-08-03 14:48:20
“Then she said that she was 71. I couldn’t believe it.
Eat right, stay in shape. You’ll avoid a lot of trouble that way.”
Probably also good genetics.
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-03 15:09:54
Probably also good genetics.
I’ve read that 10-25% of health factors are based on your genes. Which means that a good chunk of the rest (75-90%) is up to you.
Source for the above percentages: Faster, Better, Stronger by Eric Heiden, MD, Max Testa, MD, and DeAnne Musolf
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-08-03 17:01:10
You can destroy good genetics with bad habits. But I think a lot of our judgment of age has to do with factors that are influenced by genetics. For example, my 35 year old son has more gray hair than I do.
By raiding prices, what General Mills actually does is create room for more price differentiation. There are some people with significant income that will tell the kids, “Go grab a box of cereal”. That kid is not going to check that GM is $6 and deneric is $3. The kid is grabbing the one that he’s seen the commercials for.
People with less cash, will buy 5 boxes when GM has to lower the price to 5 boxes for $10 to clear out the inventory in the warehouse.
Having written some software for grocery store inventory and accounting when I worked for JDA Software, I can tell you, if something in on sale at a grocery store, it is because the manufacturer/supplier is running a joint promotion.
Higher prices for those willing to pay, and heavier discounts to move inventory to those that won’t pay the higher prices.
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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-08-03 15:50:16
Darrell:
I’ve been doing this even when i had very good paying jobs….i guess my moms shopping habits wore off on me.
lower the price to 5 boxes for $10 to clear out the inventory in the warehouse.
General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. This will no doubt add to to the volume decline because people will balk at paying the higher prices.
What General Mills will learn (the hard way) is that there are house brands of cereal in the same store. Or buy-in-bulk options like oatmeal.
When I have a morning cereal hankering, I reach for my bought-in-bulk at the co-op oatmeal and cook up a feast.
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Comment by oxide
2011-08-03 12:59:52
For the price of cereal, you could throw an egg on top of your oatmeal. FAR healthier than any cereal. (That’s if you get the cheap eggs. Don’t try this with yuppie eggs.)
Comment by ahansen
2011-08-03 22:47:30
For a buck three-eighty you can get a hen. (And feed it your leftover oatmeal….)
The Fed uses prices to measure inflation. Therefore, price as a measure of inflation is a bold lie and misdirection. The Fed hides the data on M3 money supply. Therefore, money supply is the correct measure for inflation.
The trouble with inflation these days is that it doesn’t flow. It gets injected where there is already too much money and won’t spread over to where there isn’t enough. This makes the money hot. Hot money absorbs everything you need and makes the price of stuff go up even while you have less money. Hot money does not absorb the stuff you want to sell (McMansions, your labor) so you are double screwed.
Fed prints money out of thin air and puts it in the hands of Wall Street billionaires. Wall Street billionaires buy up oil futures and the prive of a barrell jumps from $70-$90. Add in Arab Spring and we get $100.
Fertalizers are made from oil. Tractors run on oil. Wall Street assumes fewer farmers will plant. Add in some heavy raining and floods in half the country and drought in the other half, and more QE money flows into grain futures, driving up the price.
General Mills is not raising prices because they anticipate falling sales. They are raising prices because their input prices are way up, and if they do not, they can’t continue to increase profitability., meaning stopck price will fall, and they won’t get their fat bonuses. If you aren’t getting your fat bonus if you do nothing, may as well roll the dice and try something. Fail, you lose. Do nothing, you lose anyway.
It’s complicated, but in short, you can’t really separate money flow from prices.
Two examples might help:
1) Suppose that instead of acting to artificially support housing prices through various “stabilization” measures, Uncle Sam decided to step back and let fundamentals such as local home buyer incomes and debt determine the prices for which homes sold. What would ensue is an increase in home sales transactions (”money flows”) and a decrease in prices (increased “affordability”).
2) Suppose that the higher powers decided to hand everyone an extra $2K in pocket change that they would not have had under last year’s rules, in the hopes that a fair amount of this comes back into the economy as spending. This would presumably increase “money flows” and add to inflationary pressure, as adding to people’s disposable incomes increases aggregate demand.
So one might argue that depending on whether the increase in transactions (”money flows”) is due to supply side factors (case 1) ) or demand side factors (case 2) ), prices could be pushed either down or up.
Good point, but the important comparison is between what spending would have been with versus without that 2K. At least some folks will spend that 2K — for instance, folks like my nuclear family, my parents or my three sisters’ families, as none of us have any debt to pay down.
Bear Bear Bear……just what I’ve been proposing a $3k reduction in your credit card debt…same thing..some will spend it right away and some with love that extra cushion for emergencies..thanks
Suppose that the higher powers decided to hand everyone an extra $2K in pocket change that they would not have had under last year’s rules, in the hopes that a fair amount of this comes back into the economy as spending
What about the people who don’t have or use credit cards? I suppose they’re thrown under the bus just like renters, huh? Just keep rewarding those who are irresponsible debt junkies?
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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-08-04 05:59:40
No you would get a $3k debit card…..
Look Bernakeee is going to pissssss away a couple of hundred more on QE3 so why not try a bottoms up approach since the top down one has failed miserably?
My understanding is that price of goods that are actually selling (assumes supply and demand are meeting up) is the determinant of inflation vs deflation.
The volume of transactions tells you whether you have a declining, stagnant, or growing economy.
Thus an inflationary boom is rising prices and growing economy (must be lots of new money, or an increasing velocity).
Stagflation is rising prices in a slowing/stagnant economy.
These concepts are best studied under an ‘all other factors being held constant’ environment that doesn’t exist. Other factors can push some prices up while others fall regardless of what the overall economic situation is. It’s those other factors that are important right now.
For flow, money is shifting away from the middle class of developed nations. Housing has been the main obsession for the middle class, and both prices and volume have fallen off a cliff.
Much of the money is shifting to the rich around the world. They’re using it to speculate which is pushing up prices of commodities (and thus the stuff we need) and investments (stock market ponzi scheme anyone?) They’re not using it to create more production or jobs.
Some of the money is going to the rank and file of some of the developing nations. They’re seeing moderately higher wages and thus becoming more competitive for the basic necessities. More increases in price for what we need.
Mortgage fraud task force charges 27 South Florida residents in fraudulent loan scams
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 4:35 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2011
Six people, including one Palm Beach County resident, have been indicted on charges relating to $9.2 million in fraudulent loans received for homes in suburban Lake Worth’s Country Cove Estates.
The indictments were announced today in conjunction with charges levied against a total of 27 South Florida residents in alleged schemes that resulted in more than $30 million in fraudulent loans being awarded during real estate’s boom years.
Those charged include title agents, mortgage brokers, attorneys and Realtors. Investigators from the Federal-State Mortgage Fraud Task Force, which is led by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, are credited with gathering the information that led to the indictments.
“As these cases illustrate, mortgage fraud has permeated every level of the industry, from straw buyers, to loan processors, to title agents and even attorneys,” said U.S. Attorney Wifredo A. Ferrer.
For 30 years, the solution to every economic downturn has been lower rates and looser lending standards. And we’re shocked that those looser and looser and looser lending standards lead to fraud? No!!!! You are kidding!
And Newt Gingrich was on CNBC this AM saying he biggest threat to the economy is Dodd-Frank. Because if banks can’t run scams, create bubbles, rip people off, and lend money to people that can’t pay it back, then we can’t have an economy?
I get so sick of people talking about the great boom in the 80s. Do they forget junk bonds and the S&L collapse/bailout? Then they talk about the great times in the 90s. Do they forget the tech wreck?
Then we have Ron Paul talking anout lowering the budget back to 2004. Great. We just have to figure out how to make the Baby Boomers 7 years younger, lower oil back to $40 a barrell, cut the unemnployment rate in half, cut business and household debt about 50%, and destroy about 5 million houses.
That’s my thought. Why is absolutely nothing mentioned of the 700+ military bases in 125 countries? I realizes it’s taboo to discuss downsizing the military, but this is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.
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Comment by Ol'Bubba
2011-08-03 08:42:41
Is it taboo to suggest that the host countries should be picking up the tab for the cost of protecting them?
Is it taboo to suggest the military should be a revenue producer instead of an expense?
Is it taboo to suggest to your mother-in-law that she’s put on quite a bit of weight and should consider skippng dessert?
Oops… I think I crossed a line with that last one. WWIII.
Comment by liz pendens
2011-08-03 08:45:58
The military is the biggest scam since the Sham-wow.
“Is it taboo to suggest the military should be a revenue producer instead of an expense?”
How exactly is the military supposed to be a revenue producer instead of an expense? Pillaging?
It will always be an expense barring a considerable change in ethics, the only question is how large. It is arguable that a somewhat smaller force should be capable of defending US borders and waters.
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-08-03 09:48:08
“I realizes it’s taboo to discuss downsizing the military, but this is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.”
Then Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are the 5,000 lb. monsters.
Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-03 11:22:59
Then Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are the 5,000 lb. monsters.
Given that we spend more on DoD and wars than on SS, and that we have to borrow half of what we spend on DoD, unlike SS, I would say you got it backwards.
I can only imagine the right wing outcry if the fedgov had to borrow to fund half of SS’s budget. But it’s OK to run huge deficits to fund DoD.
Comment by oxide
2011-08-03 11:41:08
In Colorado, they didn’t even do that. They funded the war without borrowing at all. They sorta spent the money under the table (how, I don’t know — it’s not like our creditors could miss the Shock and Awe on CNN. ). And then when Obama said, “Hey we need to write this war spending down, anybody got a Post-it?” they blamed him for more deficit spending than Bush.
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-08-03 15:57:54
YES Al:
We keep the spoils which was supposed to be OIL…and RARE EARTH Minerals in Afghanistan…..yes that’s the prize
RAL, I was in Gardiner, NY a few days ago. Quite the impressive gathering of BMW hippies, including my own SIL who is apparently too lazy to turn her own compost and has a designer (read: costly) bin.
Odd that everyone there has vicious dogs, too — a sort of wanna-be-rich-yet-conscious ghetto.
Oh, for pete’s sake! Y’know what I’m using for compost bins? Plastic buckets that a friend gave me.
I drilled some holes in the bottoms and the sides, plopped the compost materials in ‘em, added water, and I mix ‘em a couple of times a week.
How do I mix the lovely compost? By donning a pair of rubber gloves, then sticking my hands into the stuff. It’s kinda fun!
Then I wash the compost stuff off by dipping my gloved hands in a bucket of water that I harvested from the kitchen sink or the shower. Clean gloves, slightly dirty water, but hey, the plants I’m watering don’t care. Harvested water, rain from the sky, it’s all good to them.
I’ve got to admit that playing in the compost pile, err, mixing it up, is one of my favorite early morning tasks. It’s right up there with making breakfast and washing the dishes.
Yes, I know. How weird. But I do enjoy dishwashing.
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2011-08-03 20:00:31
‘Yes, I know. How weird. But I do enjoy dishwashing.’
I used to love to compost. Meant to write “Mmmmm, compost”. Have no facilities to do it here, living in a cramped apartment setting. But, yes, it was great to mix in the horse hay and seaweed and grass clippings and all the kitchen scraps. I was fixated on the NPK ratios when I was a pre-teen for some reason too. Our mother had subscribed to Rodale Organic Gardening magazine and I thought soil was great stuff to be around.
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-04 10:48:18
Have no facilities to do it here, living in a cramped apartment setting.
Think about doing vermiculture. This can be done in an apartment. And you’ll have all sorts of great compost for your potted plants.
Fairly nice 1777 3/3 on a half acre. A long but doable commute, yard needs work, VERY nice deck, looks like a Home Depot special kitchen. NO HOA.
Days on Zillow: 171. But look at this price history! Looks like they are hanging on with their fingernails, hoping to recoup the cost of the Home Depot Special kitchen.
07/02/2011 Pending sale $289,900
05/29/2011 Listed for sale $289,900
05/20/2011 Listing removed $319,900
04/29/2011 Price change $319,900
04/19/2011 Listed for sale $329,900
04/13/2011 Listing removed $329,900
04/05/2011 Price change $329,900
03/20/2011 Listed for sale $329,899
03/17/2011 Listing removed $329,900
03/01/2011 Price change $329,900
02/13/2011 Listed for sale $349,900
05/26/2010 Sold $280,000 -30.0% $174
11/04/2008 Listing removed $340,000
07/29/2008 Listed for sale $340,000
07/29/2008 Listing removed $340,000
07/03/2008 Listed for sale $340,000
10/07/2004 Sold $359,950
02/07/2002 Sold $170,000
Also, the price jump from 2002-2004 is astounding, but most of the DC-area houses online have this same pattern:
2002-2004 big jump
2004-2006 increase to a peak in 2006
2006-2008 decrease to 2004 prices
2008-2011 level off at 2004 prices.
Any house that have dropped below 2004 prices looked trashed inside and out.
Pricing looks exactly like the Charles Hugh Smith graph, where 2004 prices are “this must be the bottom.” So HBBers, do you think these houses are ever going to drop back to 2002 levels, or are they stuck at 2004 levels? Can the stability of DC outlast the housing bust. Should I pay high rent and wait for MERS to implode?
Looking at the US budget, there is a high likelihood of civil service job cuts in the near future. Might be worthwhile seeing what those do to house prices and rents in the area before making any big decisions.
Yesterday you asked me about the Dutch House market. I’m based in the UK so I’ve little exposure to it. From here we can see Southern Ireland (Eire), Spain and most of Southern Europe are struggling according to our media (I’d use a stronger words than struggling), but news of Northern Europe is sparse to say the least. Assuming no news was good news I’d rather discounted them as bubble territory; however perhaps I’ve been wrong.
Dutch Housing Market Quarterly
Existing homes market
Downward trend continues
The slide in house prices seen in the fourth quarter of 2010 continued into the first quarter of 2011. The existing homes price index (PBK) of Statistics Netherlands/Land Registry dropped by 0.5% compared to the last quarter of 2010. This compares to a drop of 1.1% (q-o-q) in the last quarter of 2010. House prices are currently 1.2% lower than a year ago (figure 1). This second successive quarterly drop would appear to imply that the stabilisation of prices in the period from late 2009 to mid-2010 was merely temporary.
Companies need to make that % profit every year. However, their target earnings growth is always more than can be provided by revenue growth from customers. So for the past 30 years they cut the expenses side to close the gap, decimating the middle class. Since they’ve already cut their companies to the bone, the only sources of profit they have left is to lie cheat and steal and to hide their revenue in tax havens. This is now how they make their money nowadays, so yes, I guess their business does depend on the gov allowing them to steal.
But this is their last card to play — I want to know what companies will do next year for their mandated profit. Go out of business entirely, choosing to make NO profit rather than endure the shame of not hitting their mandated % numbers?
We can’t make everyone rich, until everyone is poor.
I understand what you are saying. Government here in AZ has been doing similar. The first year of big revenue miss, they just missed a payment to schools by pusshing the June payment to July (AZ state FY is Juny-June) so 11 payments instead of 12. Great, now you need 13 payments the next year.
Nope, next year we just move May and June to July. Again, only 11 payments. But even that isn’t enough, so you sell some government buildings on a lease-back agreement and the building ownership reverts back to the state at the end of the lease, which looks and smells a lot like borrowing, but it can’t be since we have a balanced budget ammendment.
Then we add a “temp” 1% sales tax increase. Odd how Republicans are SURE that lowering taxes increases revenues and raising taxes loweres revenue, until they are in charge and the economy is truely tanking. Then, oddly, increased taxes somehow increases revenue… That’s just mind boggling.
I think that a lot of businesses are hoping to make money selling ketchup packet sized amounts of shampoo and other consumer goods to the worlds impoverished billions. Companies like HP and Apple are hoping to sell their electronic toys to the 3rd world’s upper classes.
After the budget cuts the Tea Party helped negotiate, it seems likely there will be a sufficient dearth of money in the federal budget to make it quite easy to defang the nascent Consumer Protection Agency.
We’ll see eventually if there are any actual budget cuts in the works. I suspect any so-called cuts are simply reductions in the increases planned. We can, in years to come, just pad the budget to allow for whatever % cuts will please and party on.
1) The Fed Gov will continue to borrow close to 2 trillion a year.
2) The Federal Reserve will continue conjuring money out of thin air to fund a major portion of that deficit.
3) The price of food, energy, education, healthcare, etc will continue to rise while the PTB continue insisting that inflation is “tamed”
After the budget cuts the Tea Party helped negotiate, it seems likely there will be a sufficient dearth of money in the federal budget to make it quite easy to defang the nascent Consumer Protection Agency.
Here’s what I predict: Elizabeth Warren’s been run out of Washington, DC.
But, smart lady, she’s going back to one of the most respected law schools in the United States. Around Harvard Law, she’s known as a good, but tough, professor. She’s known as Socrates with a Machine Gun.
Warren is also a very gifted writer and speaker. I’ll betcha money that she’s already working on a book about her time in DC. A book that will name names. Some of whom will be very high in DC politics.
Said book will emerge during the height of the 2012 presidential election campaign. And it will say some not-so-nice things about both major candidates — my bets are on Obama vs. Romney, who is the former governor of the state where Harvard University is located.
So, this story ain’t over yet, people. Stay tuned. The fireworks are about to begin.
I’m Canadian but the family Elizabeth describes is the family in which I grew up: Dad worked, Mom stayed home. She describes where we are and how we got here.
Prices should be used to measure inflation, and money flow should be used to measure the level of economic activity. So nominal prices can go up buy few people buy anything: otherwise known as stagflation.
House prices should be used to measure inflation. The whole economy should be based on house prices. We need to sell eachother houses to survive. It is our destiny.
A free-market fix to the nation’s housing hangover
By Nicole Gelinas
July 31, 2011
Washington has attempted to intervene since the start of the crisis, but the interventions have only prolonged the pain. And elected officials have been reluctant to do the one thing that would make a difference: forcing lenders to accept responsibility for their bad lending practices.
Take the 2009 home buyer tax credit, which dangled an $8,000 credit to first-time home buyers. The bust had just exposed the consequences of reckless borrowing, so what did Washington do? It encouraged more people to take on debt to buy homes that were still overvalued, and encouraged the banks to fund that indebtedness.
Another Washington program, the Home Affordable Modification Program, was supposed to encourage banks to modify loans for underwater homeowners. But the modifications that lenders offered seldom addressed the problem. Many offers involved extending teaser interest rates, or tacking on defaulted amounts to the end of a mortgage’s life. Washington has not used its leverage to push lenders to write down the amount owed. Instead, the biggest beneficiaries of Washington’s modification program have been mortgage “servicers,” the folks who handle paperwork for lenders to modify loans.
To see how bizarre the government’s strategy is, consider this: Recently, federal regulators exacted a $108-million settlement from Countrywide, once the nation’s largest mortgage lender. The money is because Countrywide, now owned by Bank of America, has behaved incompetently, at best, in servicing defaulted mortgages.
Yet over the last year, through the Home Affordable Modification Program, federal taxpayers have spent nearly $132 million in “incentive payments” to Countrywide and its investors and borrowers to reward the company for its superficial mortgage adjustments.
The Federal Housing Administration too has done its part to keep the bubble inflated, nearly doubling the size of mortgages eligible for a government-insured lending program, to $729,750, up from $417,000, starting in the fall of 2008. People can put as little as 3.5% down for such loans, meaning that a slim decrease in house prices traps them underwater too.
It’s time to end these market-distorting charades. If President Obama won’t say so, one of his White House rivals should seize the moment.
House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.
That’s a big problem with the theory that putting in 20% down is somehow going to make it safe for you to buy a home. If you are competing with others putting in 3.5% down or less, who are likely to go into foreclosure in a few years, leading to the lender putting those homes back on the market, you are at high risk of losing a full 20% of the purchase price in home equity losses.
Of course, this is no skin off the lender’s back, as they are federally indemnified against loss of principle.
Nor will we see this while 68% of the population or so is on the “own” side of the equation. All these free-market solutions will only help smart-money renters. And how many votes would that be? 50?
Eventually though, the unemployed/underemployed will not care if their neighbor ever gets their wishing price, all they will want is a job. Up until this point most everyone has been playing nice, assuming that higher house prices will soemhow reignite the job market.
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Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-03 11:13:25
People don’t seem to think about this fact: If housing was priced significantly lower, taking that lower paying job wounldn’t be such a hard pill to swallow.
Everyone’s well trained to only think in terms of up. But what if we all started insisting on prices in favored industries to move to where the market alone would bear. Equalibrium would take a while to settle in and that would be a painful period but maybe we should embrace the downward spiral and look forward to it at a time when our work force would once again be competitive.
Comment by oxide
2011-08-03 11:48:41
And which favored industries would those be? Middle-end clothing? We’re already boycotting that to where the market can bear Wal-mart clothing — see the JC Penney layoffs. Cars? Sales are down. Food? Gas? Health insurance? These are “needs” industries which you can’t exactly boycott, not for very long. Competition doesn’t work as well in “needs” industries.
Comment by measton
2011-08-03 14:07:38
Competition doesn’t work as well when there is little or no competition and major players work together to buy gov and prevent competition.
Here in Wi Miller Coors etc pushed a bill through that prevents small craft brews from being able to distribute their beer.
Now a large player is trying to buy up one of the successful microbrews. Destroy competition is the plan. They won’t tolerate even 10% of the market being controlled by others.
Take cell phones big mergers lead us with what 3 major players.
The story is endless there can be only one.
Comment by oxide
2011-08-03 14:52:17
Carrie Ann, it doesn’t matter if house prices are significantly lower, if you’ve already bought one. Now if everybody declared bankruptcy and walked en masse, and then bought a low-price shack five years later, then yes, it’s okay to have a low pay job. But once you’ve signed on the line, you CAN’T take a low pay job. And politicians know that full well.
As Ben was saying early on. Any attempt to hold up prices just gives the builders more time to push more inventory. We should have let prices fall further, faster, shut down building sooner, and reduced the excess inventory sooner.
I’ll add, attempts to hold prices up, just gave households more oppertunity to HELOC out cash, making the incentive to walk higher and losses from foreclosure larger.
“House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.”
Why does this sound familiar? Maybe because I and others have repeatedly suggested it here for several years running now?
Check the 10-year and see the $120K pre-bubble, then look at the “listing removed” because it wouldn’t sell at $77K.
Or, I could post the link to how rents in Phoenix are falling off a cliff. For years they were rising, not because specific unit rents were rising, but becuase it was larger and nicer houses being rented. Well, that “better units” preasure up has now been overcome by the speed in which rents are falling.
I checked rents for a house on this street in ‘07. $1300-1400. One went empty and a for rent sign went up a few months ago. Just as a joke, I called and asked the asking price. $1000 a month. It has been empty for a couple months, so I called back. They said $850. When I said thanks as if to end the conversation, they came back with.. what would it take to get you into this house? My answer was, “For you to buy my house right down the street for the $150K I owe”. They seemed pretty depressed by that answer.
I feel yet another foreclosure on the street can’t be far away.
It generally isn’t, unless you let homes sit vacant for so long that the money it costs to fix them up to livable standards completely offsets the purchase price for comparable housing that is not trashed.
banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed.”
Banks don’t need to do anything but borrow at 0% from the FED and loan it out to investment banks buying GOLD, Oil, emerging market debt and last of all raise all fees.
The FED is enabling the banks to survive with millions of underwater homes on their books.
House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.
I heartily agree with the above.
And I’ve already told y’all the story of my cousin, who tried to give his foreclosed house back to the bank. Bank didn’t want it. So, according to my aunt, they re-negotiated a lower amount owed. My cousin agreed to that. House is still his.
So, if my cousin’s story is any sort of example, banks can re-negotiate mortgage contracts. And it looks like they’re realizing that it may be in their best interest.
I bet most of the loans that need to be modified are either refi’s or the borrowers lied on the loan application.
Have the refi borrowers pay the difference between purchase loan and refi and provide them a loan at the original amount.
I wonder where all that money went?
California Hotel Foreclosures Jump 91% as Lenders Seek to Sell Properties
(Bloomberg)
Hotel foreclosures in California jumped 91 percent in the second quarter as lenders repossessed properties to sell them amid a recovery in property prices, Atlas Hospitality Group said today.
The number of foreclosed hotels climbed to 191 in the three months ended June 30 from 100 a year earlier, according to the Irvine, California-based brokerage. Seizures also rose from the first quarter, when lenders took over 148 California hotels. The state’s biggest hotel foreclosure in the second quarter was the 331-room Hilton Sacramento Arden West, Atlas said.
The average U.S. hotel purchase price climbed to $192,479 a room in the second quarter, up more than 25 percent from 2006, during the property boom, according to Real Capital Analytics Inc. Values are being driven up this year by a surge in luxury- hotel transactions, the New York-based research company said.
“The rise in foreclosures can be largely attributed to lenders now having the financial reserves to be able to foreclose and sell the properties at today’s market values,” Atlas President Alan Reay said in a statement. The hotels being repossessed have been “in trouble for a long time and lenders were delaying taking any action,” he said in an interview.
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Loss of home equity downsizes retirement for many
By Sandra Block, USA TODAY
Paul Trigili, an information technology professional in Las Vegas, is 65, has back problems and would like to retire at the end of the year. There’s just one thing standing in his way: his house.
Paul Trigili, 65, and his wife Terri, 60, are postponing retirement partly because of the steep drop in the value of their home in North Las
Trigili bought his home three years ago for $350,000. At the time, he thought it was a good deal, because the home originally was priced at $450,000. Today, it’s valued at $184,000.
Trigili made a large down payment when he bought the home, so he doesn’t owe more on his mortgage than the home is worth. But his plans to sell his home and use the proceeds for retirement income have been placed on indefinite hold.
“We’re pretty much stuck here,” Trigili says. “Now, I don’t look at retirement at all. I’d like to work as long as I can.”
Nearly 32% of adults over age 50 say their home has declined substantially in value over the past three years, according to a survey by AARP. Many won’t recover those losses by the time they reach retirement age, says Jay Butler, associate professor of real estate at the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University.
“Nobody sees rapid appreciation in home values over the next 10 years,” he says. As a result, he adds, “A lot of folks will postpone retirement.”
Declining home equity is a problem that not only can force would-be retirees to keep working, it can complicate their eventual retirement in a range of ways. Many retirees, for example, have long counted on the proceeds from the sale of their homes to help fund health-care costs and long-term care expenses that they’ll inevitably face.
Such concerns have led Gary Pagliaro, 58, of Stratford, Conn., to think he might have to work longer than expected.
Pagliaro had planned to retire at 62, sell his home and buy another in the Southwest, where the cost of living is lower than in the Northeast. When he made those plans, his home was valued at $325,000 to $350,000. Now, he thinks he’d be lucky to sell it for $225,000.
Pagliaro, an accountant, says he and his wife, Elizabeth, had hoped to buy a single-family home in Arizona or Nevada, but now they’re considering buying a condo instead. And unless their home’s value rebounds, he may work longer before relocating to the Southwest.
“Depending on what happens over the next four years, I might have to rethink the 62 retirement age,” he says.
I need those folks to retire to help my job future! I’m smack dab in the middle between folks that should be retiring and the college kids chasing my tail up the ladder.
I know more than a few Owemoes like Paul and Terri who paid $250k and thought they got a deal because the last owner paid or should I say borrowed $450k.
“Paul Trigili, 65, and his wife Terri, 60, are postponing retirement partly because of the steep drop in the value of their home in North Las Trigili bought his home three years ago for $350,000. At the time, he thought it was a good deal, because the home originally was priced at $450,000. Today, it’s valued at $184,000.”
A free-market fix to the nation’s housing hangover
By Nicole Gelinas
July 31, 2011
Take the 2009 home buyer tax credit, which dangled an $8,000 credit to first-time home buyers. The bust had just exposed the consequences of reckless borrowing, so what did Washington do? It encouraged more people to take on debt to buy homes that were still overvalued, and encouraged the banks to fund that indebtedness.
States that have been trying to attract teh “rich Baby Boomers” will soon regret that… I strongly suspect.
When their pension providers go bankrupt, when SS gets cut, and when states start getting block grants, expected to provide services for 170% as many people with less money….
WTF does the price at which you can sell your house for have anything to do with retirement. This is a canard that gets repeated incessantly by the MSM. What were these money grubbing bastards planning? A move to Zimbabwe?
And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long. “Retirement” is a uniquely western 20th century idea. It used to mean your company would retire you after x years of service and hire new workers. The self-entitled have redefined it to mean that someone will hand them hundreds of thousands of dollars for a depreciating house?
Get over it America. Get over it home debtors. Get over it you self entitled windbags. Get over it my coworkers. If I have to frugalize in my working years and non-working years, the rest of you self entitled mofo’s are gonna do the same.
My grandparents that paid 1/7th to SS what I will pay(assuming no increases), AND retired when companies still offered pensions have NO problem cutting my SS payments, but I better not touch thiers.
My parents that paid 1/3rd what I will pay, and got sweet early retirement buyouts when companies stopped their pansion offerings, have no problem cutting SS and MC for me, but I BETTER not touch thiers.
I may not still be a computer programmer when I’m 70, but you can bet I’ll still be heading out to my paying job, if not jobs.
I may not still be a computer programmer when I’m 70, but you can bet I’ll still be heading out to my paying job
it’s not that we forget what we know, it’s just that it’s get harder and harder to learn the new stuff. I remember 20 years ago I learned unix. Nearly killed me but I still know it. Oh yeah 20 years ago I learned multiple technologies simultaneously. Nowadays I still learn but one thing at a time.
A kid in the Apple Store in Carousel Mall in Syracuse NY asked how in the terminal window do you look for a txt file with the word apple in it?
One big reason to wait for the bottom to truly pass is to simply avoid letting them off the hook. You have something they desperately need - do they have anything that you really need?
“And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long.”
You know, I’m still looking at retirement as something I want. Age 60 maybe. I’m making sacrifices now to get it later, which I doubt is common amongst the ‘victims’ in these types of articles.
And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long. “Retirement” is a uniquely western 20th century idea. It used to mean your company would retire you after x years of service and hire new workers. The self-entitled have redefined it to mean that someone will hand them hundreds of thousands of dollars for a depreciating house?
There’s a very good book by Craig Karpel that I recommend to just about everyone. It’s called The Retirement Myth, and it basically says that retirement is an idea whose time has come and gone.
The amount of money it takes to retire, especially in an a low interest rate environment is simply monstrous. Even a nest egg like Hobo Bill’s will generate only a tiny income stream at current interest rates.
The best most will be able to hope for is to switch to an easier (and hence lower paying) job and supplement it with whatever they can get from SS.
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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-08-03 12:06:06
“Even a nest egg like Hobo Bill’s will generate only a tiny income stream at current interest rates.”
And could be inflated to half its pruchasing power in 10 years.
If Paul is 65 and with a bad back, he should have been downsizing and planning retirement for the past three years, NOT paying $350K for a home when he was 62. I’m sure he could have stayed in his old house, or rented, for a few years without much financial strain. He was hoping to cash in on teh money, and was 5 years too late to the party.
Meanwhile, Gary is 58. Even if he bought his home 10 years ago (late in life), then he should have plenty of equity left to buy his home in the Southwest. If he bought or refi’d since then, then he’s hosed.
I bet Paul and his wife bought the “house of their dreams” as one couple in thier 60’s told me, followed by “the old house was just so small (after the kids moved out)”
I had a friend who sold their 3/1 and bought a much larger house when their oldest (of 3) was 17. I couldn’t understand why they didn’t just wait a couple of years. The house that was too small for 5 would be great for 2.
J.C. Penney Laying Off 442 Workers at Manchester Distribution Center
Notice To State Says Company Closing Facility’s Dot-Com Unit
~courant.com
JCPenney will layoff 442 workers at its Manchester distribution center, according to a notice filed Tuesday with the Connecticut Department of Labor.
The notice says the retailer is only closing the facility’s dot-com unit; workers’ last day will be Sept 30.
Along with other functions, the approximately 2-million-square-foot Tolland Turnpike facility is one of four warehouses in the country that distributes items ordered from jcpenney.com.
In April, the retailer said that part of the operation will be eliminated this fall. At that time, a company spokesman estimated that 150 workers of the facility’s 900 workers would lose their jobs, but cautioned that the exact figure wouldn’t be known until the retailer reconfigured the facility.
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The company said this spring that workers facing layoffs could apply for other jobs, but it wasn’t clear whether the offer stands.
J.C. Penney could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
Local layoffs total 800-plus, state report says. - Chicago Business
(Crain’s) — Six Cook County companies have notified the state that they plan a total of more than 800 job cuts by September.
Sun-Times Media Holdings LLC, publisher of the Chicago Sun-Times and other newspapers, will eliminate 456 jobs at its Chicago printing plant, according to a monthly Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act report released by the Illinois Department of Employment Security.
The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act — known as Warn — requires firms with at least 75 employees to give the state 60 days’ notice of closings or a certain number of layoffs
Sun-Times Media’s layoffs are the result of its decision last month to stop printing its own issues. Outsourcing printing responsibilities to rival Tribune Co. will save the struggling media company about $10 million annually.
Most of the workers losing their jobs are unionized pressroom personnel, paper handlers, electricians, machinists, drivers and operating engineers. Layoffs will begin on Sept. 30 and conclude by Dec. 30, according to the state report.
Also in Chicago, Schofield Media Group LLC, which publishes Construction Today, Manufacturing Today and other business-to-business magazines, will close after unexpectedly losing its bank funding, according to President and Chief Operating Officer Brian Reshefsky. The number of jobs affected totals 107.
Aug. 3, 2011, 7:30 a.m. EDT
Job cuts surge 60% to 16-month high
By Steve Goldstein
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The number of announced job cuts surged 60% to a 16-month high of 66,414 in July, according to the consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas. Merck & Co., Borders, Cisco Systems, Lockheed Martin and Boston Scientific accounted for 57% of the total, or 38,100 positions. “What may be most worrisome about the July surge is that the heaviest layoffs occurred in industries that, until now, have enjoyed relatively low job-cut levels, including pharmaceuticals, computer and retail,” said John A. Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WHAS11)- Gold is now selling for $1,600 an ounce, and many people are turning their jewelry into cash.
For some people, it is a matter of survival. For others, they just want something new.
The value of gold has jumped $100 in just two months, partly because of fear over the United States’ debt, and gold is seen as being a safe investment.
People are cashing in their gold at fine stores and pawn shops.
It is a modern day gold rush.
Shirley Brooks hopes the skyrocketing value of gold, at $1,600 an ounce, will help pay for some of her family’s steep medical bills.
“It’s going to be a catastrophe,” said Brooks. “I have to pay the doctor and hospital and all out of my pocket.”
The family filled two Ziploc bags with decades-old family gold just lying around the house, and took it to the popular pawn shop Little John’s, popularly known from their commercials.
“You can take this money right now and spend it,” said John Tan, owner of Little John’s.
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“It’s going to be a catastrophe,” said Brooks. “I have to pay the doctor and hospital and all out of my pocket.”
It’s only going to be a “catastrophe”? Just that?
I guess she must have health-insurance. You guys are getting played hard!
Check it out:
1st world Brazilian private health insurance including dental, vision, acupuncture, psych counseling, homeopathic, low copay and deductibles, male, late 40’s: Drum roll???……………$150 per month. Oh wait…..now it’s $158 per month (I forgot the dollar dropped again) This is in expensive Rio!
Or Brazilian basic, wait in line for hours at a clinic health care: FREE (but at least you don’t have to sell your mom’s gold)
I guess she must have health-insurance. You guys are getting played hard!
That’s the problem with high deductible plans. While you are technically insured you still need to cough up that $1500 (or higher) deductible, and for non emergency services the good doctor/clinic/hospital expect to be paid up front before you receive any services.
Ain’t that America!
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-03 13:07:00
Wendell Potter has much to say about high-deductible plans. And none of it’s good. From his latest blog post:
At the end of 2010, executives told Wall Street that the “utilization” of medical services was lower than in 2009 because the flu season last year was less severe. They assured investors utilization would return to more normal levels during the first quarter of 2011.
When it didn’t, the bad winter weather was to blame. Insurance executives wanted us to believe that people were not getting the care they needed because it was colder and snowier than usual. They assured us that medical spending would jump again as soon as the weather improved and the ice and snow melted.
Surprise! It’s August and people are still not going to the doctor or picking up their prescriptions or checking into the hospital as much as they usually do. .
And what’s the excuse this time? It’s the economy, they say — even though the recession officially ended more than a year ago. At least UnitedHealth’s executives acnkowledged that, as AP reported, “health plans that make patients more aware of the cost of care may be having an impact.”
May be? Give me a break. And stop the double-speak. What we’re so aware of is that we’re simply unable to get the care we need because of the often sky-high deductibles of today’s health plans, which insurers mislabel “consumer-driven.”
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-08-03 13:19:03
That’s the problem with high deductible plans. While you are technically insured you still need to cough up that $1500 (or higher) deductible,
Plans work different here (hey it’s Brazil) You get a set premium per month and let’s say you get a bunch of blood work that would cost maybe $900 in the USA. Here, for the next 3 months they would then add about $20 to your bill but I guess there are really no co-pays or deductibles. But it’s kind of the same in the end. (but cheaper)
I did an MRI once and it added a total of about $100 spread over a few months to my bills.
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2011-08-03 13:48:04
And when the requirement to buy insurance kicks in in 2014, people will consume even less health care. What little they could afford will go to the insurance companies instead of doctors. I wonder how long it will take before the fines are less than premiums.
BEIJING—In his first public comments on Washington’s debt deal, China’s central bank chief welcomed the passage of the bill that avoided a U.S. default but called on the U.S. to adopt “responsible measures” to manage its debt issues and pledged to continue diversifying China’s dollar-dominated currency reserves.
The comments Wednesday by People’s Bank of China Gov. Zhou Xiaochuan came as the country’s state media continued to condemn Washington over its debt problems, and as one of China’s smaller credit ratings companies downgraded its sovereign rating for the U.S.
Mr. Zhou, in a statement on the central bank’s website, warned that U.S. bond-market volatility could affect the stability of the entire international monetary system and “encumber the global economic recovery.” He called on U.S. policy makers to “act in the interests of themselves and the whole world” in further addressing debt issues. He said China will watch developments while continuing to diversify and strengthen risk management of its foreign exchange reserves.
The chaotic U.S. debt talks in recent weeks have aggravated longstanding concerns in China—the U.S.’s biggest foreign creditor and owner of the world’s largest currency reserves, at more than $3.2 trillion—about its overreliance on the dollar. But the events have also underscored the paucity of serious alternatives China has to investing in Treasurys and other dollar assets.
The state-run Xinhua news agency published a biting commentary on Wednesday saying the higher debt ceiling “failed to defuse Washington’s debt bomb for good, only delaying an immediate detonation by making the fuse an inch longer.” Xinhua urged the U.S. to roll out measures to balance the federal budget, warning that failure to do so would damage U.S. credibility.
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So hoarding US debt obligations was not a wise move after all? Suckers!
Go diversify and see who will buy your stuff! Same goes for all the export oriented nations like Japan, Germany and South Korea.
Trade is good, but you want to make sure you get something real in return, not just IOUs.
Agreement Reached on Overhaul of U.S. Financial System
By STEPHEN LABATON
October 23, 1999
ASHINGTON — The Clinton Administration and top Republican lawmakers reached an agreement early Friday to overhaul the financial system, repealing Depression-era laws that have restricted the banking, securities and insurance industries from expanding into one another’s businesses.
Dodd, whose state is home to the nation’s largest insurance companies, and Schumer, with strong ties to Wall Street, have long sought legislation to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act. Both men said in interviews Friday that they moved to strike a compromise after it became apparent that the legislation might be killed, as it was last year by Gramm, over the debate about the Community Reinvestment Act.
Gramm had maintained that he did not want anything in the bill that would expand the application of the Community Reinvestment Act because it was, he said, unnecessarily burdensome to banks. He had sought a provision that would exempt thousands of smaller banks from the law. He also wanted a provision that would expose what he has described as the “extortion” committed by community groups against banks by requiring the groups to disclose any special financial deals the groups extract from the banks.
But the White House found that provision unacceptable and had its own ideas about community lending. It wanted the legislation to prevent any bank with an unsatisfactory record of making loans to the disadvantaged from expanding into new areas, like insurance or securities.
The White House had insisted that the President would veto any legislation that would scale back minority-lending requirements. Four days of intense negotiations between Summers, Gene Sperling, the President’s top economic policy adviser, and Gramm, while moving the two sides closer, failed to resolve the differences.
But Administration officials had spent all day making sure that the Democrats remained solidly against the measure until their concerns about the Community Reinvestment Act could be worked out.
After receiving calls from executives of some of the nation’s leading financial companies, Dodd and Schumer began trying to work out a compromise. An agreement was quickly reached on the issue of banks and expanded powers — no institution would be allowed to move into any new lines of business without a satisfactory lending record
“Greece is already one of the poorest and most unequal societies in Europe, reckons Christos Papatheodorou at the Democritus University of Thrace. Among the few countries that look worse are Romania, Bulgaria and Latvia. So what will Greek society look like after the government’s austerity measures take effect? He pauses, then says: “It will probably look like a developing country.”
That message has not been lost on workers either: one of the new nouns used by trade union members and others who oppose the cuts is kinezopeisi, or China-isation. The claim is that such large drops in wages will lead to a workforce paid barely more than their counterparts in Shenzhen.”
“For now, those days are well and truly over. In Athens’ upmarket shopping district of Kolonaki, boutiques that used to have waiting lists for designer handbags have shut. One sign says the owners have relocated – to Rome. “
Good move.
“In one clothes shop, with racks of discounted Calvin Klein and DKNY, the manager, Sav, explains what’s happened: “In this crisis, the middle classes have been hollowed out.” That is just what happened in Buenos Aires during its crash last decade.”
I suspect many of the Tea Part folks are figuring that if they throw seniors and poor folk under the bus, they can remain in the middle class.
“Outside the soup kitchen of the Aghia Triada church in Piraeus, near Athens, more of Greece’s new poor are waiting for a handout. Anna and her two daughters have walked in the midday sun to get here and are now queueing up with the long-term homeless.
That is not Anna’s situation though; she lost her job three years ago but has still hung on to her house. That said, she no longer has the income or the benefits to pay bills and the electricity was cut off last month.
Inside, Pater Daniel, the head priest, says that he’s noticed a lot more “well-dressed, clean” people taking free meals from the church. He reels off stories of a 23-year-old man who left last week for Australia, and a 40-year-old woman who lost her job on Friday.”
Better be first on that bus. By the time we crash, nobody will be accepting American immigrants.
“Because the Greek Orthodox church is partly on the state payroll, the clergyman’s salary has fallen by almost 10% to €15,000 a year.
Is he saying that the Orthodox church is also subject to public spending cuts? Pater Daniel laughs, then holds up five fingers: there are five priests in Piraeus, and soon there will only be one. He’s pondering taking a second job.“
Aug. 3, 2011, 10:05 a.m. EDT
July ISM services index drops to 52.7% from 53.3%
By Jeffry Bartash
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The Institute for Supply Management on Wednesday said its service-sector index fell to 52.7% in July from 53.3% in June. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected the services index to rise to 53.5%. While readings over 50% indicate more firms are expanding than contracting, the index is sharply lower compared to a recent peak of 59.7% in February. The new orders index dropped 1.9 percentage points to 51.7% and the backlog of orders index declined 4.5 percentage points to 44.0%. Thirteen of the 18 service sectors tracked by ISM reported growth. The U.S. service sector - fields such as health, finance and entertainment - accounts for three-fourths of all economic activity. It also employs about four of every five U.S. workers.
“The U.S. service sector - fields such as health, FINANCE and entertainment - accounts for three-fourths of all economic activity. It also employs about four of every five U.S. workers.”
During the Arab spring, I pulled much of my 401(k) from stocks to bonds. Had been regretting that for much of summer, but I’m now well above where I would have been had I stayed stocks.
Lots of technical damage done over the last 2 weeks. Another crisis brewing in EURO-land, this time its too big to bail with Spain and Italy at stake.
I think there simply is too much money out there for every $$ to find a save hiding spot. Gold going crazy right now.
Scary times…
How many economic crashes happen in spring? Few. How many in fall? Many more. I can think of 4-5 off the top of my head. I know, the rule works until it doesn’t, but best to play it safe.
Right now I’m reading Theodore Rex, and he too had a stock market crisis on his watch, in 1906. The treasury secretary and big banks staved off a full on crash in late October. I’m staying out until Halloween at least.
During the Arab spring, I pulled much of my 401(k) from stocks to bonds. Had been regretting that for much of summer, but I’m now well above where I would have been had I stayed stocks.
I’ve been looking at doing some bond investing as well. Sorry, stock market, but you’re much too bipolar for my taste.
I’m also pondering the notion of investing in local businesses. Did this sort of thing once before — it was an infill development that I was thinking of moving into, but didn’t. Took a few years to recoup the investment, but I did — and got the 8% interest that I was promised.
We’ll get higher and higher
straight up we’ll climb
we’ll get higher and higher
leave it all behind
Run, run, run away
like a train runnin’ off the track
got the truth bein’ left behind
falls between the cracks
standin’ on broken dreams
never losin’ sight, ah
well just spread your wings
We’ll get higher and higher
straight up we’ll climb
we’ll get higher and higher
leave it all behind
So baby dry your eyes
save all the tears you’ve cried
oh, that’s what dreams are made of
‘cause we belong in a world that must be strong
oh, that’s what dreams are made of
Now main streets whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there aint nobody wants to come down here no more
They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they aint coming back
Or, Born in the USA
Born down in a dead man town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that’s been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up
…
Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man
Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man said son if it was up to me
Went down to see my v.a. man
He said son, don’t you understand
I had a brother at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They’re still there, he’s all gone
And Reagan thought that song was about how great the USA is… Really?
Doesn’t sound like “Over there” or “Anchors Aweigh” or “Happy Times are Here Again” to me….
Just goes to show ya. Listen to the refrain, and all you get is a catchy line. Listen to all the words in the song, and you get its message.
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Comment by MrBubble
2011-08-03 11:14:34
Well, there’s people and more people
What do they know, know, know
Go to work in some high rise
And vacation down at the Gulf of Mexico
Ooh, yeah
And there’s winners and there’s losers
But they ain’t no big deal
‘Cause the simple man, baby
Pays for thrills
The bills the pills that kill
Oh, but ain’t that America
For you and me
Ain’t that America
Something to see, baby
Ain’t that America
Home of the free, yeah
Little pink houses
For you and me
Oooh
Ooooh, yeah…
Service firms expand at slowest pace in 17 months; growth in new orders, employment weakens
WASHINGTON (AP) — Restaurants, hotels, retailers and financial companies saw more business in July, but the broader U.S. service industry experienced its weakest growth in 17 months.
The report Wednesday from the Institute for Supply Management confirms other data that show the economy is struggling two years after the recession ended.
The trade group of purchasing executives said its index for services companies fell to 52.7, from 53.3 in June. Any reading above 50 indicates expansion.
Separately, the Commerce Department said businesses cut orders for airplanes, autos and heavy machinery in June. Factory orders dropped 0.8 percent, the second drop in three months
Chevy Volt: Still Not Selling
• The Weekly Standard - Aug 3, 2011
The July sales numbers are out and the Chevy Volt continues to electrify (get it?) the country. GM sold … 125 Volts last month!
Obama Volt
Way back in March I made fun of the Volt for selling 281 units in February. Turns out, February was a good month. But wait, there’s more! GM says they’re going to increase production to 5,000 Volts per month in order to keep up with demand. You see, they claim that the reason the Volt isn’t selling is that they can’t keep enough cars on the lot. A GM spokeswoman recently claimed that they are “virtually sold out.” Which is virtually true. Mark Modica called around his local Chevy dealers and found plenty of Volts waiting for an environmentally conscious driver to bring them home.
The sad truth is that has truly become the modern acceptable form of dealing with the negative. At least that is the clear message our children are getting from society at all levels. Really sad.
The need to get he price down. It’s way too expensive.
Just for fun, I checked the website of the Chevy dealer in my old stomping grounds in Carlsbad, CA (the volt still isn’t offered in my neck of the woods).
You see, they claim that the reason the Volt isn’t selling is that they can’t keep enough cars on the lot. A GM spokeswoman recently claimed that they are “virtually sold out.” Which is virtually true. Mark Modica called around his local Chevy dealers and found plenty of Volts waiting for an environmentally conscious driver to bring them home.
Here in Tucson, the Nissan Leaf offered a demo at one of our Fourth Avenue Street Fairs. While I know plenty of people who did the demo, I know of only one who said he wanted to buy one.
Did he actually make the purchase? I don’t know. Haven’t seen him for a while.
Hand em` out at the border with food stamps and make the Mexican drug cartel pay for it in return for all the free assault weapons they got.
Free cell phones are now a civil right
8:30 AM, August 1, 2011 ι Abby W. Schachter
Pennsylvanians on public assistance now have a new ‘civil right’ — free cell phones. Meanwhile, the rest of us get to pay higher cell bills as a result.
Recently, a federal government program called the Universal Service Fund came to the Keystone State and some residents are thrilled because it means they can enjoy 250 minutes a month and a handset for free, just because they don’t have the money to pay for it. Through Assurance Wireless and SafeLink from Tracfone Wireless these folks get to reach out and touch someone while the cost of their service is paid for by everyone else. You see, the telecommunications companies are funding the Universal Service Fund to the tune of $4 billion a year because the feds said they have to and in order to recoup their money, the companies turn around and hike their fees to paying customers. But those of use paying for the free service for the poor, should be happy about this infuriating situation, says Gary Carter, manager of national partnerships for Assurance, because “the program is about peace of mind.” Free cell service means “one less bill that someone has to pay, so they can pay their rent or for day care…it is a right to have peace of mind,” Cater explained.
Can you live your life with 1 phone with 128 minutes a month that rollover the unused minutes….or 250 minutes and you lose what you don’t use and start over at 250 the next month?
Those are the 2 plans….anything over that you have to pay for…I mean you want facts just google them.
Walk in applicants are no longer welcome anywhere. And the few places they are, you still have to sit at their PC both and fill out an electronic form (or a regular paper form) so they can… call you back later.
I spent two hours with a mortgage broker trying to get inside info on what is happening. First, he told me not to buy as he expects another 20% drop in housing next year. Second, he told me that the banks are playing a new game here in CA. They are lowering principle on many house mortgages within a months time (toxic mortgages) and converting them to fixed rate 40-50 year mortgages at rates between 1-3%. The purpose is to not let houses go into foreclosure and reset neighborhood pricing for fear that others will do strategic defaults, get some income on the books, clear toxic loans so that they can be moved, all in hopes that the high priced RE market will return down the road.
It reminds me of Macy’s department store; keep the pricing high but always put it on sale to move it with the idea that later on you can return to your high baseline pricing. Same for the auto industry and sticker pricing that no one pays.
“They are lowering principle on many house mortgages within a months time (toxic mortgages) and converting them to fixed rate 40-50 year mortgages at rates between 1-3%.”
Are federal tax dollars funneled to lenders to spare their investors from the losses on these unrepayable mortgage debt balances?
Bank of America has joined a mortgage principal-reduction program to help struggling California homeowners. BofA’s participation is a significant boost for the state-run Keep Your Home California program, which is funded with $2 billion in federal funds.
About $790 million is available for mortgage principal reduction – but only if the lender matches, dollar for dollar, what the state kicks in. BofA is the seventh and largest lender to participate in the principal-reduction portion of the program.
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Yesterday I took my old dryer to the shop that repairs and sells refurbished appliances. The manager there told me that the newer units are only designed to last 5-10 years versus the older ones that lasted 20+ years. I bought it there used in August 2009 for $175, and yesterday for forty bucks had a new thermostat and fuse put in it while I waited. It was quite tempting to bite the bullet and go to Lowes and plop down $500+ for a new one. (I am glad too that my frugal ways from an economically challenging 2010 are still with me.)
The point being, across the board we see a reduction in quality of products with only marginal increases of price. So the perception is that we have only slight inflation although they are substituting cheaper ingredients/components in production of goods – a term I heard used was “value deflation.” Dryers, Twinkies, khakis, tools – everything sees a degradation in quality or size of portions. If you do want to buy something of comparable quality, the cost is exorbitant, and possibly a truer reflection of inflation.
And what about us younger folks who weren’t around a while ago to buy these magical older appliances? Our only choice is between shoddy new and dicey Craigslist.
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Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-03 15:34:53
So much for the “invisble hand” of the free market. Everybody knows the stuff they sell now is garbage. So why doesn’t someone make good appliances with quality American parts? People would buy them.
We got a Miele vacuum (made in Germany). Brilliant design, quiet and I was promised that they would be using it to vacuum the floor at my wake. But expensive? Holy schneickies.
By EILEEN AJ CONNELLY The Associated Press
Posted: 8:41 a.m. Wednesday, Aug. 3, 2011
NEW YORK — U.S. shoppers kept on using their MasterCards in July even as uncertainty about the economy increased.
Spending with credit and debit cards bearing the company’s logo rose about 12 percent in the U.S. compared with July 2010, Chief Financial Officer Martina Hund-Mejean of Mastercard Inc. said Wednesday.
About 2 points of that increase came from gas prices, which averaged about $1 per gallon higher than a year ago. Inflation also played a part in higher clothing and food costs, and more expensive luxury items due to record prices for gold and silver, she said.
Other increases came from expanding fees and surcharges that airlines charge, and increased spending in restaurants and hotels, the CFO said during an interview.
Spending was slowing down at this time a year ago.
Still, there is an apparent split in the consumer base.
“We have two types of consumers in the United States,” Hund-Mejean said during a conference call to discuss the company’s second-quarter results. Those people who have a job and expect to keep it “feel that they can go out and do the spending that they need to do,” she said. “Then, on the other hand, you have the consumer who is not quite as well off, who is not able to do it like that.”
“U.S. shoppers kept on using their MasterCards in July even as uncertainty about the economy increased.
Most people I know who use credit cards do it for the rewards points only, be it 1% cash back for certain purchases (gas), or airline miles, or gift card rewards. Of course, you have to pay off your balance each month, but it seems a decent deal to use the card this way.
You should ask the people you know to think this all the way through.
How do the banks afford to give out those points? And still turn a big profit?
They’re taking a cut of the transaction. Every time someone uses a credit card, the bank is making MORE money than it pays out in any perks. That’s either coming from the merchant’s pocket, or from the pocket of the person making the purchase.
“Every time someone uses a credit card, the bank is making MORE money than it pays out in any perks. That’s either coming from the merchant’s pocket, or from the pocket of the person making the purchase.”
No doubt. Our mechanic automatically shaves 10% from the bill if you pay cash. I don’t think the CC companies get a 10% cut, but I like his approach. Still, years ago, my wife had built up so many Hilton rewards points on her card that when we went to Europe in ‘07, we stayed at 5-star Hiltons for free for a week. Seemed like a good deal at the time, though I take your point–it raises costs on all of us in the long run.
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Comment by Max Power
2011-08-03 13:12:25
Many vendors don’t give you a discount for paying cash and in those cases, it is a better deal to pay with the CC and pay off the balance at the end of the month. I think there’s actually a clause in the agreement that says vendors can’t charge a different price for cash. I’m sure not everyone follows that, but I believe that’s why you never see a store with signs saying “automatic 3% discount for paying cash”.
I use the cards for the points game. Lots of great websites out there helping you play along. my last card gave me 100k pts for $95 a year. That is two RT’s to Europe@!! Then the SPG card gets me free rooms!! YMMV.
“IT IS the end of cheap goods,” says Bruce Rockowitz. He is the chief executive of Li & Fung, a company that sources more clothes and common household products from Asia than perhaps any other. In the low-tech areas in which Li & Fung specialises, the firm handles an estimated 4% of China’s exports to America and a sizeable chunk of its exports to Europe, too. It has operations in several East Asian countries, where it diligently searches for cheap, reliable suppliers of everything from handbags to bar stools. So when Mr Rockowitz says the era of low-cost Asian production is drawing to a close, people listen.
Nothing can replace the Chinese miracle. “There is no next,” says Mr Rockowitz. Prices will now start to rise by 5% or more each year, with no end in sight. And that may be optimistic. So far this year, Mr Rockowitz says, Li & Fung’s sourcing operation has seen price increases of 15% on average. Other sourcers of Asian toys, clothes and basic household products tell similarly ominous tales.
If we went back to the 10ish quality outfits in your closet w/2-4 pair of shoes, that probably wouldn’t bother me…….she said as she gazes down at her giant pile of running shoes. (Impish grin) We hardly need the cutesy chatchskies for the house.
It will be difficult to reverse the constant buying of new and reintroduce the skill of taking care of things and maintaining them to last. But I think it really boils down to expectations. If the entire world is downsizing expectations, they’ll be less suffering than when one is forced to do it on their own.
I look this as an opportunity to eventually bring back quality American workmanship as a desired feature of marketing and as a ways to restart our manufacturing and textile sectors.
All rely on the same increasingly expensive pool of commodities.
ding ding ding. It doesn’t matter if the corporations who make things move their slave labor down a tier, if you have no stuff for the slave labor to make things from. Apparently the race to the bottom will not end at the bottom; we’ll run out of raw material long before that.
Too bad the draconian cuts in federal spending negotiated by the Tea Party are likely to result in SLOWER GROWTH / BIGGER DEFICITS.
And it’s too bad John Boehner’s homespun insights from running his own small business don’t readily extend to the operation of the world’s largest economy.
But it’s all OK, as I’m sure the Republicans will easily convince the American voter that next year’s worsening economic slump is Obama’s fault.
Of all the ways to bring down government deficits and make the national debt more manageable, economic growth is by far the most pleasant.
When GDP grows, companies and individuals make more money and pay more taxes. So more economic growth means lower deficits. Economic growth also means the existing national debt gets smaller relative to the overall economy.
But there’s a flip side to this: Slow economic growth — or, in very bad times, an economy that’s actually shrinking — makes deficits bigger and debt more difficult to deal with.
So the recent report that the U.S. economy is growing much more slowly than expected is bad news for the country’s long-term debt outlook.
The CBO — the non-partisan scorekeeper that Washington looks to for deficit projections — estimated that the U.S. economy will grow at a rate of 3.1 percent this year.
But the economy actually grew at an annual rate of less than 1 percent in the first half of this year, according to the GDP numbers released just a few days ago. Even if growth picks up in the second half, it’s very likely that economic growth for the full year will be significantly lower than CBO projected.
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I can’t wait to hear the Tea Party people try to blame a worsening economic downturn on Democrats, instead of taking personal responsibility for the economic impact of draconian federal spending cuts on which they insisted.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (C), R-SC, speaks as he and a group of freshmen Republican congressmen hold a news conference on the debt ceiling July 19 in front of the White House.
August 3, 2011
There’s one thing that freshman Republicans and the old-guard GOP leadership can agree on — the Class of 2010 fundamentally changed the focus of the debate over taxes and spending.
In a key test of their clout, the group of congressional newcomers largely stuck to their guns through tense negotiations, forcing a first-ever cap on discretionary spending and staving off tax increases.
“I cannot recall in my own experience or in my studies this ever happening before,” said Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University in Washington. “Such a group of backbenchers changing the debate in such a short amount of time is really incredible.”
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With the fight over the U.S. debt ceiling finally over, investors are free again to focus on all the economic challenges that lie ahead, but they are finding little reason to celebrate. Stock markets around the world fell sharply on Tuesday, skipping the “relief rally” that customarily follows the resolution of a crisis.
In the United States, signs of a serious economic slowdown had been building up, though with attention focused on the debt-ceiling debate, the news had apparently not yet sunk in.
The U.S. economy, as measured by gross domestic product, barely grew in the first two quarters, manufacturing slumped and consumer spending fell in June for the first time in nearly two years. The stalemate over the debt ceiling only aggravated what was already a bad situation.
“Our economy didn’t need Washington to come along with a manufactured crisis to make things worse,” said President Obama, commenting on the approval of a new debt ceiling. He offered little hope for a quick recovery.
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As we offshored our industrial base, we became more and more dependant on debt. We buy from China, they loan us the money back to maintain the peg between the Yuan and dollar, and so we can buy more of thier stuff. Then we buy more of their stuff with the money they loaned us, which they loan back to us again so we can again buy more of thier stuff…
Household: $1394.4B
Business: $1479.7B
Total HH+Bis: $2874.1B
CPI change 2.47x
Population change = 1.2
So. 2874.1 * 2.4 * 1.2 = $8277.4B IF debt had only increased at the sustainable level as determined by inflation and population growth.
Actual debt:
Household: 13386.2
Business: 10876.1
Total HH+Bis: 24262.3
So, if debt had only increased at the sustainable rate, we would have $8.3T of household and business debt, but we actually have $24.3T in business and household debt.
This does not even include government debt.
We are told by Republicans that if we raise taxes, or put controls in place to stop the wreckless growth of private sector debt, it will be a jobs killer. We are told by the Democrats that if cut spending, it will be a jobs killer. One thing all can agree on is that we can not keep running government deficits of our current size for long without either default and depression, or having the Fed try to print our way out causing terrible stagflation.
There are many arguments as to which is the best of the two bad solutions to our economic situation. Cut spending and just let the poor and middle classes plunge into depression while keeping the top 10% of the economy humming along a little longer, until the next collapse when the government won’t be able to do a TARP because there will be no one to pay for it. Or, perhaps we could crush the financial sector, the only sector of our econmy not in depression, to provide services for the poor and middle-classes, just a little longer.
Perhaps it is time to approach this from a different point of view. We are in a trade war with China, India and much of the world. China pegs its currency to ours, preventing currency exchange rates from adusting as needed to sloew the flow of improts from there into the US. They refuse to enforce international copyright laws. They are demanding software companies hire programmers and other tech workers in China, or they will not buy their software. My current company hires 2 people in China every time an American leaves the company, to help penetrate the Chinese market.
Perhaps it is time to launch our own trade war, and no, not as we have done so far, by just printing dollars out of thin air, to devalue them as we have done so far. Factory workers in China make $3 an hour and in the USA $15. Can we really afford $20 a gallon gas to finally break China’s will to maintain the peg, and adjust thier wages to be competative with ours? Really?
I think that we can not cut our way out, we can’t spend our way out, we can’t tax our way out, we can’t print our way out. We need another option that doesn’t involve either Fiscal or Monitary policies as those are both just using more debt. You can not fix a debt problem with more debt.
So, are we doomed? Are our best days behind us? Are we doomed to go the way of the Roman Empire or the European PIIGS? Spending did not help them, and now austarity is not helping them.
Perhaps, and I know this is going to sound like something out of the stone age, perhaps it is time to institute tarrifs based upon the average wage in foreign countries in relation to our own. So, with China’s $3 an hour compared to our $15, there would need to be a 500% tarrif on the price of the item.
Yes, this will cause the price of imports from China to skyrocket. However, it would also plug the trade deficit, bring industrial jobs back to the United States. Food and Energy prices would not have to inflate 500% as well, since we import less of that than consumer goods. Our standard of living would suffer, but that is inevitable. Tariffs would return us to a 1940-1960s style manufacturing economy where we have a hope of maintaining full employment without bubbles like junk bonds, DotCom and real estate. It would allow a long-term sustainable economy, not based on ever increasing debt.
As long as you don’t mind collapsing the following US markets. China probably won’t be buying those items from us much after seeing those tariffs imposed on their exports. So when you make the first step in a US-China trade war, these are the industries whose necks you’re putting on the line: (Warning: pdf)
The question is: do they have alternate suppliers?
I suppose that they could buy airliners from Airbus, but I’m guessing they already do and if they do buy more they go to the back of the line I supoose.
As long as you don’t mind collapsing the following US markets. China probably won’t be buying those items from us much after seeing those tariffs imposed on their exports. So when you make the first step in a US-China trade war, these are the industries whose necks you’re putting on the line:
Brazil protects it’s market and does booming Business with China.
Just today:
Brazil moves to protect industries from foreign rivals
Brazil’s President Dilma Rousseff has unveiled plans to help her country be more competitive.
The measures include tax breaks for Brazilian-made products and anti-dumping measures on cheaper imports mostly from China….
…Speaking at the unveiling of the plans, Finance Minister Guido Mantega said Brazil was operating on “a predatory, competitive world stage” and promised rigorous regulation of imports.
…what do we have and have had for the last 30 years? That’s right, millions of jobs being lost anyway and those that remain not keeping up with inflation.
Looking on the bright side, the debt ceiling deal has opened up a great opportunity for dips to buy.
Raising the Debt Ceiling
President Obama signed the debt deal — but that can’t fix the economy
Marketplace Morning Report, Wednesday, August 3, 2011
Deep spending cuts could hamper economic growth, and some analysts say the debt deal may actually spook investors, rather than reassure them
An exit sign for economic recovery
Bob Moon: So, the debt ceiling deal was signed by the president last night, averting a risk of self-imposed crisis. But may be like one of those heap umbrellas in a building storm. For one thing global markets are down across the board this morning, following a sharp drop in U.S. markets yesterday.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The government will borrow $72 billion in debt auctions next week now that Congress has raised the nation’s borrowing limit.
The Treasury Department says it will sell 3-year notes, 10-year notes and 30-year bonds to raise the money. About one-third will go to repay debts that are due on Aug. 15.
President Barack Obama cleared the way for the auction on Tuesday when he signed into a law a bill that raises the debt ceiling and promises more than $2 trillion in cuts to government spending over the next decade.
The U.S. government currently borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends.
We spend more on military than the rest of the world combined, we promised everyone that if they work 40-45 years, we’ll give them a 20-30 year vacation. We have cut taxes repeatedly, and we are trying to prevent greater depression with unemployment and food stamps.
How did businesses and households get to 3x the debt we should have…. $24T.
Critics of President Obama never tire of blaming him for today’s high deficits. But if blame belongs with one president, it belongs with Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush. The chart above, … based upon figures from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, illustrates this point very clearly. But it’s worth reviewing the history here, because while it’s familiar to most of us who follow politics it doesn’t seem to get a lot of attention in the political debate.
What the heck happened to all the “job creation” promised by the hope&change administration?
ITEM: Unemployment rose in nearly all US cities
August 03, 2011
WASHINGTON (AP) – Unemployment rose in more than 90 percent of U.S. cities in June, mirroring a national slowdown in hiring.
The Labor Department says the unemployment rate rose in 345 large metro areas. It dropped in 20 cities and was unchanged in seven. That’s worse than May, when the rate rose in only 210 cities and a sharp reversal from April, when unemployment actually fell in nearly all metro areas.
The biggest increase was in Joplin, Mo, which was hit by a major tornado on May 22. The city lost 9,400 jobs in June and the unemployment rate jumped nearly 2 percentage points, to 9.6 percent.
So all the administration is left with as they prime us for QEIII is fear. The promise that we take on the risk of increased borrowing in an attempt to bring back jobs is already been played and the people now recognize it as a ruse.
Airlines May See $1.3B ‘Windfall’ in FAA Shutdown (Bloomberg)
Lost FAA taxes would amount to about $1.3 billion through Sept. 7, when Congress resumes legislative business, said Laura Brown, an agency spokeswoman.
U.S. airlines led by United Continental Holdings Inc. (UAL) may pocket $1.3 billion in higher fares tied to the Federal Aviation Administration’s partial shutdown as Congress deadlocks on the agency’s funding.
The FAA already has been unable to collect $28.6 million a day in aviation taxes since midnight on July 22. Missed receipts may climb by $1 billion more until lawmakers reconvene in September, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said yesterday.
The largest U.S. carriers, including United, Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) and Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV), stand to reap that much new revenue after raising fares to mirror the suspended taxes and keeping the difference, said Rick Seaney, chief executive officer of Dallas-based ticket researcher FareCompare.com.
“This is manna from heaven, and a real windfall for the airlines,” Seaney said in an interview. “I don’t expect them to drop the fare increases. Why would they? Total ticket prices are the same and it doesn’t seem to be hurting bookings.”
Congress was set to begin its August recess today without a new FAA funding bill. The expiration of tax-collecting authority last month halted a 7.5 percent sales tax on domestic tickets and a $3.70 fee for each flight segment. Similar, higher fees on international tickets also were suspended, and airlines started saving about 15 cents a gallon on jet fuel.
“We don’t know how long it’s going to last, and we can’t sit here with 100 percent conviction that the government won’t make the airlines repay this somehow,” said Hunter Keay, an analyst at Wolfe Trahan & Co. in New York. “All it takes is some law to be passed, an FAA recollection-type bill.”
Neb. mine find to challenge China’s dominance of vital rare minerals
Elements coveted for high-tech uses. ~ Washington Times
Elk Creek, Neb. (population 112), may not be so tiny much longer. Reports suggest that the southeastern Nebraska hamlet may be sitting on the world’s largest untapped deposit of “rare earth” minerals, which have proved to be indispensable to a slew of high-tech and military applications such as laser pointers, stadium lighting, electric car batteries and sophisticated missile-guidance systems.
Canada-based Quantum Rare Earths Developments Corp. last week received preliminary results from test drilling in the area, showing “significant” proportions of “rare earth” minerals and niobium.
The only people more excited than Quantum? The residents of Elk Creek, where nearly one in seven people live under the poverty line, but whose economy has been booming ever since the company showed up late last year to start laying the groundwork for a possible mining bonanza.
“It’s been a very, very positive experience for our community,” said state Sen. Lavon Heidemann, an Elk Creek farmer. “When Quantum came in here, they put money in the local community. And any time you have money flowing in a small town, that’s a positive.”
Beaulieu will eliminate 125 jobs at Eufaula, Alabama plant.
~ The Eufaula Tribune.
Barbour County’s frail economy will soon take another jolt.
Beaulieu of America officials announced this week that the carpet manufacturer would eliminate 125 jobs in the Eufaula spun yarn facility by early October. Beaulieu currently employs 312 individuals at the Eufaula plant, which is located in the Eufaula Industrial Park. Most of those workers are from Barbour and Quitman counties.
“The carpet industry has been hit very hard in this recession and the industry demand for spun yarn has declined dramatically over the past few years,” Patricia Flavin, the senior vice president for marketing at Beaulieu, stated in an email to The Eufaula Tribune.
The Grand Budget Compromise Cuts A Measly $21B From Next Year’s Budget Of $3.7 TRILLION - Congress Creates A Rube Goldberg Doomsday Machine
By Randy Wray, Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and Senior Scholar at the Levy Economics Institute of Bard College.
Source - EconoMonitor
Don’t you feel relieved? After weeks of threats, hostage-taking, and other forms of deficit terrorism, our two political parties have finally “compromised” on what was always a foregone conclusion.
Washington got what it wanted—a down payment on destruction of the last remnants of progressive policy. Soon, it will be 1929 all over again. We can make believe that the New Deal and Great Society programs never existed, and go back to the good old days when it was every “man” for himself.
Superficially, the spending cuts don’t look like much. The grand compromise cuts $21 billion next year from a budget of $3.7 trillion—sort of like foregoing one Big Mac from your annual food budget. In spite of all the talk about needing to take the medicine now, rather than kicking the “deficit crisis” down the road, Congress adopted a plan to kick that can right down the interstate.
It might make you wonder what the fuss was about.
All sides expressed their displeasure, as they held their noses and voted for the putrid heap of a plan. That is pure political theater, of course. Republicans fear a backlash from the fringe right that wanted immediate elimination of all social spending. Democrats fear a backlash from working Americans—the 70% or so who vehemently oppose any cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And so both sides say they hate the plan, but under the circumstances it was the best that could be secured.
And both sides agree that the looming fiscal crisis still looms. So they have created a Rube Goldberg machine to do what they know they cannot: the bill contains automatic triggers and across the board cuts that take effect if Congress cannot ram through cuts to so-called entitlements.
I do not want to go deeply into the details, but here is a quick summary. The bill contains $1 trillion in cuts, spread over coming years. It creates a bipartisan committee that is supposed to find another $1.5 trillion to cut by Thanksgiving; Congress must vote on the recommendations by Christmas. If all that fails, $1 trillion across the board cuts will take effect. In return the debt limit is raised by $400 billion now, and another $500 billion later. Congress can vote to stop the debt limit hikes, but the President can and will veto such a vote—letting Congressional weenies save face.
Finally, by New Year’s day Congress must vote to send a balanced budget amendment to the states; if they vote to do so, Obama can ask for a $1.5 trillion increase to the debt limit; otherwise he can ask for only $1.2 trillion. Congress gets to vote on that increase, too, but Obama gets to override that, too! (Don’t you love the way each milestone coincides with a national holiday?)
Are you still following? All of this is designed to allow Congress to shirk its job, of course—to build a Rube Goldberg machine to accomplish what our elected wieners (sorry, Anthony, you saw it coming) know would hurt them in the next election.
Here is the Beltway’s fantasy. The US government is running out of money. The main cause is the “entitlements”—all those deadbeats expecting hand-outs from Washington. Alan Simpson, co-chairman of the President’s previous deficit commission, put it this way: “We’ve reached a point now where it’s like a milk cow with 310 million tits! Call when you get honest work!”
I want to be clear. This is not a partisan position. Everyone in Washington accepts it—from the progressive think tanks to the nuttiest free marketeers; from the politicians to NPR’s reporters; from Pete Peterson’s hedge fund cronies to organized labor. All present a unified front against budget deficits—particularly those due to “infinite horizon” deficits that result from “entitlements”.
If we project Social Security benefit payments and payroll taxes through infinity, and subtract revenues from spending, we get a big deficit number. If we then project Medicare spending and tax revenues through infinity we get an even bigger number. Tens of Trillions of dollars.
And so we need that Rube Goldberg doomsday machine that cannot be stopped by human hand. It all kicks in automatically to slash entitlements because we know that neither voters nor their representatives will act to avert fiscal catastrophe that will sooner rather than later bankrupt the US government.
ALBANY, N.Y. - Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade.
For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.
The population loss is “the ultimate barometer of New York’s attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business,” the report’s co-author, E.J. McMahon, said. “It’s the ultimate indication that we’ve been doing things wrong.”
Most analysts blamed New York’s high taxes and skyrocketing cost of living for the mass exodus.
The Tax Foundation ranked New York highest in the nation in the combined state and local tax burden in 2008. And as small-business lobbyist Mike Durant noted, New York has also “consistently ranked worst or in the top three worst in business climate. You can’t suck every penny out of people and expect them to remain in New York.”
“For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.”
That’s truly amazing! I had no idea that another state had a higher rate of exodus than California. Of course CA’s exit rate may be underestimated, due to the inability to fully capture outflows of illegal immigrants who went home when the real estate construction industry went bust. And this only holds on percentage terms, not absolute terms. And many who probably would rather leave California are trapped in underwater mortgages.
New York’s 50-year exodus
Posted on August 2, 2011 at 2:21 pm by Rick Karlin, Capitol bureau …
Overall, McMahon noted, out-migration actually hit a peak in the 1970s. During the last two decades New York had the highest out-migration in proportion to its size of all 50 states (California actually lost more people but with more than 37 million, it’s a lot larger than NY’s 19 million people).
View: Postal Service Needs Fewer Workers to Deliver
~ Bloomberg
Here are three remarkable facts about the United States Postal Service: Its union workers have no- layoff contracts; no post office branches can be closed solely because they lose money; and, as revealed in an investigation by Bloomberg Businessweek, the service is so dependent on low- profit junk mail for revenue that it has a marketing officer tasked with lobbying banks not to switch to electronic statements.
All of which leads to an unsurprising reality: The USPS lost $8 billion last year, and has been kept on life support with $15 billion from the Treasury. Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe warns that it could default on those loans in October.
The USPS, which is supposed to be self-financing, faces a dismal future. Total mail volume fell by 20 percent between 2006 and 2010, with the biggest drop-off in first-class mail, the most profitable type.
Donahoe has proposed shuttering 3,700 of the nearly 32,000 post offices across the U.S. and having mom-and-pop stores, pharmacies and possibly large retailers take over local postal services. This is a sensible plan — European agencies have done the same with great success — but it would save only about $200 million, a drop in the bucket. And even this timid step has lawmakers waxing nostalgic over the mail: Senator Susan Collins of Maine insists that closing branches “simply is not an option in many rural and remote areas.”
In the long run, closing branches doesn’t get to the root of the fiscal problem: Eighty percent of the USPS budget goes to salaries and benefits. By contrast, United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) spends 61 percent on those costs, and FedEx only 43 percent. Postal employees pay a smaller share of their salary for health care than most other federal workers, and, as reported by the Washington Post, more than 850 senior managers get their health care absolutely free.
Yet the USPS continues to plant the seeds of its own destruction. This year it reached a new contract with the union representing its mail clerks, drivers, mechanics and custodians that included a continuation of the no-layoffs clause for current workers, a 3.5 percent raise over 4 1/2 years, and regular cost of living increases. (The postal service claims that it was trying to avoid arbitration that might have resulted in an even more costly package, and it may have a point.)
The service’s management and unions are living in denial — both want the service to be freed from having to finance its health-care plan for retirees in advance to the tune of $5.5 billion a year. They also push a sketchy claim that the USPS has overpaid the Civil Service Retirement System by as much as $75 billion since the 1970s and deserves the money back from Congress.
…as revealed in an investigation by Bloomberg Businessweek, the service is so dependent on low- profit junk mail for revenue that it has a marketing officer tasked with lobbying banks not to switch to electronic statements.
My credit union made the switch to e-statements. Which means a login to the online banking panel to get ‘em as PDFs. No fuss, no muss.
But Slim, now the onus is on YOU to remember to download/store/backup/etc this document.
When it comes in the mail, I don’t have to remember it; I just have to glance over it for errors and then file it away.
For the life of me I can’t understand how signing up to do more work, waste your own hard-drive space, need to do your own backups, etc is supposed to be to my benefit.
I certainly understand how it is to the financial institutions benefit, though! They save lots of money, but it comes at my expense.
Really? You have email right? Wouldn’t the email notifying you that your e-statement is ready serve as a reminder? Then all you have to do is click on the link and go through your usual statement reviewing routine. Pretty simple. And you don’t have to store anything on your hard drive. Most banks keep your old statements as well. And if you bank with someone that doesn’t, a several page .pdf takes up very little space.
But e-statements do save the bank money so I agree you should get something for signing up. Lower/higher interest rate, waived fees, etc.
For the life of me I can’t understand how signing up to do more work, waste your own hard-drive space, need to do your own backups, etc is supposed to be to my benefit.
15 homeless shelters at risk of closing
By VANESSA HO, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
A cut in federal funding to local social services has prompted one provider to say it will close all 15 of its indoor homeless shelters by next week if no other funds emerge. The closures would affect roughly 400 people.
The announcement came after King County was axed from a longtime source of federal funding for emergency shelter and feeding programs. Last year, the county received $1.2 million from the funds, which went to the YWCA, the Salvation Army, small food banks and other programs.
About $44,000 went to SHARE, the Seattle-based group that runs the 15 shelters. SHARE said the loss of funding meant it had run out of money for bus vouchers to ferry people to and from shelters.
Without the vouchers, the shelters – scattered throughout the county and housed mostly in churches – were useless, the group said.
“We don’t have any money. We have a week’s worth of bus tickets in hand. It’s a disaster for our organization and homeless people,” said Jarvis Capucion, a member of SHARE and its sister organization, WHEEL.
Capucion said the group was already struggling with a budget gap, and that the vouchers, the group’s biggest expense, are about $12,000 to $13,000 a month. He said the organization had been waiting months for the funding and didn’t learn until this week that it had dried up.
“SHARE said the loss of funding meant it had run out of money for bus vouchers to ferry people to and from shelters.”
“Without the vouchers, the shelters – scattered throughout the county and housed mostly in churches – were useless, the group said.”
Not true in the least. In Seattle, I have often seen homeless board the Metro bus, mumble an “I’m homeless” to the driver, and walk on by without paying a cent. I actually believe this is a good thing—homeless people need a way to get to where services are offered, whether or not they have any cash available for the ride.
But saying that not having bus vouchers available makes homeless services “useless” seems like a huge stretch.
Z Foods plant in Madera going out of business
Process starts with the layoffs of 200.
By Tim Sheehan / The Fresno Bee
Z Foods, a dried-fruit processor in Madera, is laying off about 200 of its seasonal workers this week as the company starts going out of business.
The layoffs and plant closure come after the company failed to find a buyer to take over the business, county employment officials said Monday.
In June, company officials said they were in talks with several potential buyers and had filed a layoff notice with the state Employment Development Department just as a precaution in case a sale did not go through. “If we don’t have a buyer, one option is to liquidate the company,” David Aquino, human resources manager for Z Foods, said at that time.
Aquino could not be reached Monday. In June, he told The Bee that the company employs about 100 people year-round, with the seasonal work force peaking at 400.
County officials said the Z Foods closure will immediately affect about 200 employees. “They are beginning the layoffs with sorters who are working at the plant now,” said Elaine Craig, executive director of the Madera County Workforce Assistance Center.
Craig said Workforce Assistance officials will visit the plant today and Thursday. They will explain to workers how to file unemployment claims and apply for other aid and services available to them, including help with job placement and referrals or worker retraining programs.
The company’s layoff notice to the state indicates 350 of the plant’s employees are general laborers. The rest are forklift drivers, supervisors, sales and support staff, maintenance workers and others, including managers.
Madera County is asking the state for more Dislocated Worker Fund money to help the surge of employees affected by the layoff. Because of budget cuts, Craig said, “we don’t have the money to deal with 400 more layoffs.”
The plant occupies about 30 acres on Road 291/2 southeast of Madera. It dries and processes cherries, apricots, peaches, plums, nectarines and others, primarily as ingredients for the baking and food-service industries.
Owner, charged with arson, selling Lost Barrio buildings - Story says, “In a text message to the Star on Tuesday, Gibson said he’s got his buildings up for sale because he has “a note” coming due on them next year. In interviews, however, one of Gibson’s current tenants and another Lost Barrio business owner said he probably needs money to pay his legal expenses in the pending arson case.” Methinks that he was deeply underwater on the property. In his mind, torching it was the way out from under the debt burden. And then he got caught.
Pima County foreclosure numbers drop again - But local rate of loan defaults remains high in national rankings - One story comment notes heavy buying by investors. But I think that a lot of those investors will fail to realize the appreciation that they’re hoping for. (There’s a lot of “You’d better buy before prices go up again!” rhetoric around here. And when you ask the rhetoricians what they think will drive any sort of house price increase, they’re at a loss for words. Because job growth and incomes sure aren’t going up in Tucson.)
I also predict that our latest crop of investors will find out that SFR landlording isn’t as much fun as they thought it would be.
Limbaugh and the author of thei article may get it that government spending has been based on debt. They do not seem to be taking the next step that the economy as a whole is just as fake. Corporate profits are fake, based on people borrowing money they can’t pay back. Wall Street is fake, based on fake profit, and purchased on margin accounts with money that can’t be paid back if stocks fall to their real value. Creative financial securities just repackaging debt that can’t be repaid, to allow companies to book profit that will never be realized.
If anything, the private sector economy is far more fake than government.
We need to focus on one thing and one thing only… bringing back our industrial base. Plug the trad deficits, put Americans back to work making things, let stimulus stimulate our economy instead of China’s.
my solution…….give tax breaks based on the number of full time workers with benefits who work 2nd 3rd shift weekend and holidays….Prime time pricing
All your employees work 9-5 you pay top dollar…no tax breaks period.
No different then vacations resorts, block out dates… and even DJ’s Don’t ask me for a discount in June, but January i can dj your wedding for 1/2 price.
PS you notice very few heat related power outages happen at 4 AM..which is usually the Low point of power usage for the day
When I got marreid 4 years ago I got my choice of DJ with heavy discount…. I got marreid on 7-14-7. Everyone getting married that summer went with 7-7-7, so NO ONE was booked the week later.
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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-08-04 06:15:12
Wow didn’t think of that, yes i was booked for a wedding on 7-7-7…. but a lesser paying yearly family reunion on the 14th..huge family i’ve known for years parents had 11 kids.
“The bad news is Congressfolk have put us deeper in debt than ever.”
And it’s going to be more difficult to service that debt as the boomer’s retirement wave get underway shrinking the GDP and the tax receipts. It’s not going to end well for those living in dependency.
Part 2 of Great Recession about to appear at a theater near you. There’s a double feature with David Lereah pulled out of mothballs to do peculiar stunts with Joshua Trees.
Did someone create a company for the sole purpose of giving to a political action committee trying to boost Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign?
That’s what it looks like. As The Ticket reported earlier this week, three firms gave $1 million apiece to Restore Our Future, a conservative “super PAC” planning to spend millions to help Romney’s White House bid.
One of those companies was W. Spann LLC, a mysterious New York-based company that apparently closed up shop last month shortly after its contribution to the pro-Romney PAC. As NBC News’s Michael Isikoff reports, the company was formed in March by Boston estate tax lawyer Cameron Casey and listed a midtown Manhattan address where the landlord says there’s no record of the firm being a tenant.
The company gave $1 million to Restore Our Future on April 28, and according to records obtained by Isikoff, dissolved on July 12th, just two weeks before the pro-Romney PAC disclosed its donors to the Federal Election Commission. There’s no indication in the records of what the company did or who its owners or principals were.
How dare this author question the free speech of money.
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The corporate MSM is lying that the US is not in a stagflationary depression. The NBER are liars. And oh yeah, Realtors are liars too…
They are not lying, the US is in a deflationary depression.
Not with QEs only dumping money to Wall Street to create commodity bubbles.
Stuff we need it going up. Food, fuel, energy, healthcare. Housing is going down because we over built. I’m not sure what else is going down in price.
“Stuff we need it going up. Food, fuel, energy, healthcare. Housing is going down because we over built.”
Well, they tried on housing.
“I’m not sure what else is going down in price.”
Labor.
oh, yeah. good point on the labor.
That’s easily fixed. Just pay people more not to work like they are doing now. Give the unemployed a raise…
Terminology matters not at this point, all that matters is the aggregate reduction in household purchasing power in an economy driven 71% by consumer spending.
Not if you are the 10% at the top. Then what to you care about the median household purchasing power.
Bingo eJohn…
“Not if you are the 10% at the top. Then what to you care about the median household purchasing power.”
I expect a lot of those 10% to be hurt by the coming cutbacks, directly or indirectly.
Question: Should it be prices that determine whether the economic environment is inflationary or deflationary or should it be money flow?
I think it should be money flow. Prices can be listed where ever the seller wants to list them but if the money does not flow then a transaction will not occur. If not enough transactions occur - if not enough money flows - then a merchant will go out of business.
General Mills raised its prices because it anticipates a volume decline of the products it sells. (IMO this is an excellent way to go out of business.) In the meantime its stats of price increases adds to stats of other price increases and gives the illusion that the economy is inflating. But remember, the sales volume is down, so the flow of cash is down, which means that the the forces of deflation are at hand, not the forces of inflation - that’s if one wants to use as a gauge money flow rather than prices.
And isn’t this what we are seeing in RE in a lot of places. Don’t we see high prices but no sales volume, meaning no cash flow? If we were to use prices as a guage then we would see a stable RE market. But if we were to use cash flow as a guage then we would be seeing something different.
Money flow? Yes, there’s plenty of it sloshing around the Hamptons, Aspen, Davos, et cetera. But it ain’t on Main Street. J6P doesn’t care about or understand the velocity of money. What he understands (because he’s living it) is the Misery Index: inflation % + unemployment %. Combo, have you been grocery shopping lately?
have you been grocery shopping lately ??
I use to go a lot…After the kids left the house and its just the Mrs. & I have not been in a long time…On a road trip a few weeks ago I went shopping for a BBQ party of 8…I was Shocked…I guess that’s why places like McDee’s are doing so well…Dollar meals…
Dave, We have a garden, 5000 sq ft of lush, fertile soil
that is enriched each year. We grow a lot of good, fresh
food that we either can, freeze, or dry. The Mrs. and I
both like good, healthy foods.
Please note that we did this because we liked good,
fresh food. We do it know because it saves us a bundle
of money at the store.
Seed and start-ups at the feed store and the Grange
doubled two years ago, and doubled again this spring.
Gardens are going in everywhere. Backyard lawns are
disappearing and bean trestles are in place.
Gardening is a learned art. It takes years to have a
successful garden every year, and then, like this year,
the weather screws up the cycles and your yield drops.
We only planted 35 tomato plants this year and we
have yet to see a red one — and this is august.
Same tomato issues here rancher! what’s up, anyway?
Yeah Rancher…Being that my family lives right there next to you I am keenly aware of the terrible winter you guys had…Thats what has pushed your growing cycle so far back…Now your getting the heat…I understand it was 95 or so yesterday…
We had the wettest March in history and it stayed
chilly for most of the spring. Ground temps never
had a chance to warm up. Now with the heat, high
80’s mostly, the chile’s are coming in, squash is
doing great, tomatoes growing and will turn in a week or so. Snap peas and beans are doing great.
We are about six weeks behind normal.
Every three years we use the cat with 24 inch rippers and stir in about 14 yards of steer, chicken, and rabbit fertilizer and compost. So everything is opened up and blended down to 30 inches. Water retention is good and so is the drainage. We use a combination of drip and sprinkled irrigation water supplied by the GP irrigation district and we’re at the end of one of the lines with a 44 gallon per minute water flow.
It’s a lot easier than moving 7 foot wheel lines around every 12 hours.
Every three years we use the cat with 24 inch rippers and stir in about 14 yards of steer, chicken, and rabbit fertilizer and compost. So everything is opened up and blended down to 30 inches. Water retention is good and so is the drainage. We use a combination of drip and sprinkled irrigation water supplied by the GP irrigation district and we’re at the end of one of the lines with a 44 gallon per minute water flow.
Oh yea?!……..
Well….
…..well we got 4 upside-down tomato plants and some real herbs growing out on the veranda…and we have a water faucet with a rubber hose out there too…
Rancher what do you do for insect pests ? maybe thats not a problem yet ?
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
I tried some spagetti squash but they did poorly I will say the climate here in Ventura County is near perfect probably why the land is sooooo expensive
I found insect soap mixed with nicotine works pretty well on many pests it makes nicotine sulfate posionous so be careful
had lots of predatory mites this year so no spider mite !! have white fly but it’s on the hibiscus so I really don’t care too much about it just knock it down with the soap.
Rancher,
The worst part about prices not falling locally is the years of knowledge gains that are not going on while we wait.
Stupid question but do you have to buy seeds every year or is there a way to cultivate your own? I realize I’m getting into the whole Monsanto thing here. I’m just really fuzzy on reallity.
Did you ever get any grass to grow, Rio? (The kind you stand on and mow?)
Rancher- You should look into no-till farming. Better for the soil and your plants, and easier in the long run.
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
You do? And where does one buy these seeds, cactus?
Did you ever get any grass to grow, Rio?
No. Not yet. The houses are like NY row houses but I’m not finished yet. I’m going to have a little strip of one someday like the guy in the army did.
No till farming works, but…..it is very expensive in that you control weeds with chemicals (herbicides)
and the weeds are beginning to be resistant to the
herbicides. Some grow up to three inches a day and are tough enough to damage farm equipment.
To give you an idea how well are plants grow, on
the seed packs of spaghetti squash, it will tell you
to plant 6 feet apart on four foot rows. We have to
plant them 10 feet apart on 8 foot rows. We have
one melon plant now that stretches over 20 feet.
We relied on fertilizers and higher than normal plants per acre to crowd out unwanted growth.
Plus when farming alfalfa, you only plant every
five years. We averaged 6 tons an acre and
bailed for the horse market.
As for seeds, you can let some of the plants go to seed, called “headed” but it can also be a pain since
some will escape the bag and you’ll find lettuce
coming up everywhere the next season.
Never, ever buy genetically modified seed. Use
heirloom seeds for the best result and taste.
We will dust with a sulfur mix if the bugs get to
busy, but mostly we rotate where we plant and
what we plant because some plants have natural
toxins that inhibit insects.
Google “natural pesticides” to get a better answer
There’s lots of good recipes, more than I can remember.
“We only planted 35 tomato plants this year and we
have yet to see a red one — and this is August.”
Oh good… its not just me!! Last week was my day to tend to our church’s volunteer garden (the bounty goes into the food pantry). The tomatos were falling-off-the-vine huge, but there wasn’t a red one in the entire group. I emailed the coordinator in charge of the garden asking whether she planted a green variety. I never got a response.
What we don’t use, we give some to our Doctor’s and Dentists office, with the majority of it going to the local rescue mission.
I garden also but so specialised it’s silly I grow cactus from seeds and sell the seeds good for a renter with little land who still whats to grow stuff
You do? And where does one buy these seeds, cactus?”
Ebay photoboard_man thats me
Just got back grocery shopping….just spend almost $200 on steaks chicken breast and hot sausages, hamburger my freezer is stuffed
PS…all on sale for $1.99 lb….buy now or be priced out forever..
FWIW, the Federal Reserve says that M1 and M2 hve been climbing steadiliy.
Regardless, as long as people have to pay more for the basic goods they consume they will perceive it as inflation, even if the money supply is shrinking.
I also think that comparing asking prices for houses with the price of goods at the grocery store is disingenous. You don’t have to buy a house at all, but you have to eat to survive. You need to wear clothes and you have to put gas in your car’s tank.
“Regardless, as long as people have to pay more for the basic goods they consume they will perceive it as inflation…”
Which gets to my point. People “perceive” inflation because of higher prices. But they don’t necessarily buy things that are priced higher, they end up buying things that are priced cheaper.
General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. This will no doubt add to to the volume decline because people will balk at paying the higher prices. But people will register in their minds the higher prices and complain about them even though they end up spending their money on something else.
“General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. ”
In other words, only people with money left over will buy the cereal; i.e. The poor will be left out again. Since General Mills is mostly sugar, maybe this isn’t a bad thing. On the other hand, the alternative is likely to be no breakfast at all.
By the way, in another example of inflation, I’ve noticed that cold cuts — beef especially — are 7-ounce packages instead of the usual half-pound. Even more insidious, they contain “up to 15% of a salt solution.” Is it just me, or didn’t that salt solution used to be 7% or 10%?
“The poor will be left out again.”
My focus is trying to determine what is happening, not on who is being left out or is not being left out.
Being left out is a result of whatever it is that is happening. If one can understand what is happening then maybe one can protect himself from being left out.
On the other hand, the alternative is likely to be no breakfast at all.
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More kids on the free lunch program, let’s borrow more money to pay for it!
Yes Oxide,
I do believe the salt solution content used to be 7% to 10%. And I was just thinking that I’ve been resurrecting my baking and cooking from scratch skills as many of the products I once enjoyed have been cheapened to the point where they are no longer enjoyed. Quality ingredients and quantity has been minimized too much and I find the idea of picking up something in its previous form pops into my head and then I remember its been reduced to mere junk status and I’m not interested anymore.
More kids on the free lunch program ??
Better them then some of the fat a$$ I see in the check out line…Pretty disgusting really to watch someone that is clearly obese eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…Can’t even wait to get out of the store…Handed the check-out clerk the empty bag to scan it…
Package cereals are disgustingly expensive compared to bulk oats, especially the kiddie stuff.
in the check out line……eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…
In economics that’s called “market efficiency” I think.
Better them then some of the fat a$$ I see in the check out line…Pretty disgusting really to watch someone that is clearly obese eating a foam pastry filled with something white in the line…Can’t even wait to get out of the store…Handed the check-out clerk the empty bag to scan it…
That’s why I enjoy shopping in places like the Food Conspiracy Co-op. The lard-butts just aren’t there.
Matter of fact, I was talking with a fellow shopper earlier this year. Lady was in fine shape, and I thought she was just a year or two older than me. (I’m 53.)
Then she said that she was 71. I couldn’t believe it.
Eat right, stay in shape. You’ll avoid a lot of trouble that way.
“Then she said that she was 71. I couldn’t believe it.
Eat right, stay in shape. You’ll avoid a lot of trouble that way.”
Probably also good genetics.
Probably also good genetics.
I’ve read that 10-25% of health factors are based on your genes. Which means that a good chunk of the rest (75-90%) is up to you.
Source for the above percentages: Faster, Better, Stronger by Eric Heiden, MD, Max Testa, MD, and DeAnne Musolf
You can destroy good genetics with bad habits. But I think a lot of our judgment of age has to do with factors that are influenced by genetics. For example, my 35 year old son has more gray hair than I do.
By raiding prices, what General Mills actually does is create room for more price differentiation. There are some people with significant income that will tell the kids, “Go grab a box of cereal”. That kid is not going to check that GM is $6 and deneric is $3. The kid is grabbing the one that he’s seen the commercials for.
People with less cash, will buy 5 boxes when GM has to lower the price to 5 boxes for $10 to clear out the inventory in the warehouse.
Having written some software for grocery store inventory and accounting when I worked for JDA Software, I can tell you, if something in on sale at a grocery store, it is because the manufacturer/supplier is running a joint promotion.
Higher prices for those willing to pay, and heavier discounts to move inventory to those that won’t pay the higher prices.
Darrell:
I’ve been doing this even when i had very good paying jobs….i guess my moms shopping habits wore off on me.
lower the price to 5 boxes for $10 to clear out the inventory in the warehouse.
General Mills raised its prices to make up for the expected decline in volume. This will no doubt add to to the volume decline because people will balk at paying the higher prices.
What General Mills will learn (the hard way) is that there are house brands of cereal in the same store. Or buy-in-bulk options like oatmeal.
When I have a morning cereal hankering, I reach for my bought-in-bulk at the co-op oatmeal and cook up a feast.
For the price of cereal, you could throw an egg on top of your oatmeal. FAR healthier than any cereal. (That’s if you get the cheap eggs. Don’t try this with yuppie eggs.)
For a buck three-eighty you can get a hen. (And feed it your leftover oatmeal….)
hard to get inflation without a increase in the money supply
The Fed uses prices to measure inflation. Therefore, price as a measure of inflation is a bold lie and misdirection. The Fed hides the data on M3 money supply. Therefore, money supply is the correct measure for inflation.
The trouble with inflation these days is that it doesn’t flow. It gets injected where there is already too much money and won’t spread over to where there isn’t enough. This makes the money hot. Hot money absorbs everything you need and makes the price of stuff go up even while you have less money. Hot money does not absorb the stuff you want to sell (McMansions, your labor) so you are double screwed.
Call it whatever you want to.
Hot money goes overseas to cause inflation this really screws up some emerging economies
Hot money goes overseas to cause inflation this really screws up some emerging economies
I see it.
Fed prints money out of thin air and puts it in the hands of Wall Street billionaires. Wall Street billionaires buy up oil futures and the prive of a barrell jumps from $70-$90. Add in Arab Spring and we get $100.
Fertalizers are made from oil. Tractors run on oil. Wall Street assumes fewer farmers will plant. Add in some heavy raining and floods in half the country and drought in the other half, and more QE money flows into grain futures, driving up the price.
General Mills is not raising prices because they anticipate falling sales. They are raising prices because their input prices are way up, and if they do not, they can’t continue to increase profitability., meaning stopck price will fall, and they won’t get their fat bonuses. If you aren’t getting your fat bonus if you do nothing, may as well roll the dice and try something. Fail, you lose. Do nothing, you lose anyway.
“General Mills is not raising prices because they anticipate falling sales. They are raising prices because their input prices are way up”
This is true. The price of wheat is absolutely killing a lot of bakeries, especially commercial bakeries.
It’s complicated, but in short, you can’t really separate money flow from prices.
Two examples might help:
1) Suppose that instead of acting to artificially support housing prices through various “stabilization” measures, Uncle Sam decided to step back and let fundamentals such as local home buyer incomes and debt determine the prices for which homes sold. What would ensue is an increase in home sales transactions (”money flows”) and a decrease in prices (increased “affordability”).
2) Suppose that the higher powers decided to hand everyone an extra $2K in pocket change that they would not have had under last year’s rules, in the hopes that a fair amount of this comes back into the economy as spending. This would presumably increase “money flows” and add to inflationary pressure, as adding to people’s disposable incomes increases aggregate demand.
So one might argue that depending on whether the increase in transactions (”money flows”) is due to supply side factors (case 1) ) or demand side factors (case 2) ), prices could be pushed either down or up.
Or they might use the 2K to pay off debt. Isn’t that what basically happened to the fun bucks that W handed out?
“Or they might use the 2K to pay off debt.”
Good point, but the important comparison is between what spending would have been with versus without that 2K. At least some folks will spend that 2K — for instance, folks like my nuclear family, my parents or my three sisters’ families, as none of us have any debt to pay down.
Or they might use the 2K to pay off debt. Isn’t that what basically happened to the fun bucks that W handed out?
ISTR that the lion’s share of those rebate checks went toward paying the bills. Or they went into savings.
Bear Bear Bear……just what I’ve been proposing a $3k reduction in your credit card debt…same thing..some will spend it right away and some with love that extra cushion for emergencies..thanks
Suppose that the higher powers decided to hand everyone an extra $2K in pocket change that they would not have had under last year’s rules, in the hopes that a fair amount of this comes back into the economy as spending
What about the people who don’t have or use credit cards? I suppose they’re thrown under the bus just like renters, huh? Just keep rewarding those who are irresponsible debt junkies?
No you would get a $3k debit card…..
Look Bernakeee is going to pissssss away a couple of hundred more on QE3 so why not try a bottoms up approach since the top down one has failed miserably?
My understanding is that price of goods that are actually selling (assumes supply and demand are meeting up) is the determinant of inflation vs deflation.
The volume of transactions tells you whether you have a declining, stagnant, or growing economy.
Thus an inflationary boom is rising prices and growing economy (must be lots of new money, or an increasing velocity).
Stagflation is rising prices in a slowing/stagnant economy.
These concepts are best studied under an ‘all other factors being held constant’ environment that doesn’t exist. Other factors can push some prices up while others fall regardless of what the overall economic situation is. It’s those other factors that are important right now.
For flow, money is shifting away from the middle class of developed nations. Housing has been the main obsession for the middle class, and both prices and volume have fallen off a cliff.
Much of the money is shifting to the rich around the world. They’re using it to speculate which is pushing up prices of commodities (and thus the stuff we need) and investments (stock market ponzi scheme anyone?) They’re not using it to create more production or jobs.
Some of the money is going to the rank and file of some of the developing nations. They’re seeing moderately higher wages and thus becoming more competitive for the basic necessities. More increases in price for what we need.
Mortgage fraud task force charges 27 South Florida residents in fraudulent loan scams
By Kimberly Miller Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 4:35 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2011
Six people, including one Palm Beach County resident, have been indicted on charges relating to $9.2 million in fraudulent loans received for homes in suburban Lake Worth’s Country Cove Estates.
The indictments were announced today in conjunction with charges levied against a total of 27 South Florida residents in alleged schemes that resulted in more than $30 million in fraudulent loans being awarded during real estate’s boom years.
Those charged include title agents, mortgage brokers, attorneys and Realtors. Investigators from the Federal-State Mortgage Fraud Task Force, which is led by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, are credited with gathering the information that led to the indictments.
“As these cases illustrate, mortgage fraud has permeated every level of the industry, from straw buyers, to loan processors, to title agents and even attorneys,” said U.S. Attorney Wifredo A. Ferrer.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/real-estate/mortgage-fraud-task-force-charges-27-south-florida-1685411.html - -
For 30 years, the solution to every economic downturn has been lower rates and looser lending standards. And we’re shocked that those looser and looser and looser lending standards lead to fraud? No!!!! You are kidding!
And Newt Gingrich was on CNBC this AM saying he biggest threat to the economy is Dodd-Frank. Because if banks can’t run scams, create bubbles, rip people off, and lend money to people that can’t pay it back, then we can’t have an economy?
I get so sick of people talking about the great boom in the 80s. Do they forget junk bonds and the S&L collapse/bailout? Then they talk about the great times in the 90s. Do they forget the tech wreck?
Then we have Ron Paul talking anout lowering the budget back to 2004. Great. We just have to figure out how to make the Baby Boomers 7 years younger, lower oil back to $40 a barrell, cut the unemnployment rate in half, cut business and household debt about 50%, and destroy about 5 million houses.
It would help if we ended the 6 wars we have currently going on also.
Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia… Korea? Cold War?
What are the 6 wars?
Pakistan & Yemen.
Don’t forget Somalia.
That’s my thought. Why is absolutely nothing mentioned of the 700+ military bases in 125 countries? I realizes it’s taboo to discuss downsizing the military, but this is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.
Is it taboo to suggest that the host countries should be picking up the tab for the cost of protecting them?
Is it taboo to suggest the military should be a revenue producer instead of an expense?
Is it taboo to suggest to your mother-in-law that she’s put on quite a bit of weight and should consider skippng dessert?
Oops… I think I crossed a line with that last one. WWIII.
The military is the biggest scam since the Sham-wow.
Yep….In the name of keeping you safe…
“Is it taboo to suggest the military should be a revenue producer instead of an expense?”
How exactly is the military supposed to be a revenue producer instead of an expense? Pillaging?
It will always be an expense barring a considerable change in ethics, the only question is how large. It is arguable that a somewhat smaller force should be capable of defending US borders and waters.
“I realizes it’s taboo to discuss downsizing the military, but this is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.”
Then Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are the 5,000 lb. monsters.
Then Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare are the 5,000 lb. monsters.
Given that we spend more on DoD and wars than on SS, and that we have to borrow half of what we spend on DoD, unlike SS, I would say you got it backwards.
I can only imagine the right wing outcry if the fedgov had to borrow to fund half of SS’s budget. But it’s OK to run huge deficits to fund DoD.
In Colorado, they didn’t even do that. They funded the war without borrowing at all. They sorta spent the money under the table (how, I don’t know — it’s not like our creditors could miss the Shock and Awe on CNN.
). And then when Obama said, “Hey we need to write this war spending down, anybody got a Post-it?” they blamed him for more deficit spending than Bush.
YES Al:
We keep the spoils which was supposed to be OIL…and RARE EARTH Minerals in Afghanistan…..yes that’s the prize
http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/16/taliban-minerals-afghanistan-asia-opinions-columnists-gordon-g-chang.html
How exactly is the military supposed to be a revenue producer instead of an expense? Pillaging?
Don’t go attacking the Sham-wow!
IAT
Realtors Are Liars®
RAL, I was in Gardiner, NY a few days ago. Quite the impressive gathering of BMW hippies, including my own SIL who is apparently too lazy to turn her own compost and has a designer (read: costly) bin.
Odd that everyone there has vicious dogs, too — a sort of wanna-be-rich-yet-conscious ghetto.
Oh, for pete’s sake! Y’know what I’m using for compost bins? Plastic buckets that a friend gave me.
I drilled some holes in the bottoms and the sides, plopped the compost materials in ‘em, added water, and I mix ‘em a couple of times a week.
How do I mix the lovely compost? By donning a pair of rubber gloves, then sticking my hands into the stuff. It’s kinda fun!
Then I wash the compost stuff off by dipping my gloved hands in a bucket of water that I harvested from the kitchen sink or the shower. Clean gloves, slightly dirty water, but hey, the plants I’m watering don’t care. Harvested water, rain from the sky, it’s all good to them.
Hmmmmmm, compost.
I’ve got to admit that playing in the compost pile, err, mixing it up, is one of my favorite early morning tasks. It’s right up there with making breakfast and washing the dishes.
Yes, I know. How weird. But I do enjoy dishwashing.
‘Yes, I know. How weird. But I do enjoy dishwashing.’
I used to love to compost. Meant to write “Mmmmm, compost”. Have no facilities to do it here, living in a cramped apartment setting. But, yes, it was great to mix in the horse hay and seaweed and grass clippings and all the kitchen scraps. I was fixated on the NPK ratios when I was a pre-teen for some reason too. Our mother had subscribed to Rodale Organic Gardening magazine and I thought soil was great stuff to be around.
Have no facilities to do it here, living in a cramped apartment setting.
Think about doing vermiculture. This can be done in an apartment. And you’ll have all sorts of great compost for your potted plants.
Senators and Congressmen are pieces of feces.
lmao.
Hey, watch it there, buddy! You just insulted feces!
BA DUMP BA!
Today’s home:
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/23928-Janbeall-Ct-Clarksburg-MD-20871/37081315_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}
Fairly nice 1777 3/3 on a half acre. A long but doable commute, yard needs work, VERY nice deck, looks like a Home Depot special kitchen. NO HOA.
Days on Zillow: 171. But look at this price history! Looks like they are hanging on with their fingernails, hoping to recoup the cost of the Home Depot Special kitchen.
07/02/2011 Pending sale $289,900
05/29/2011 Listed for sale $289,900
05/20/2011 Listing removed $319,900
04/29/2011 Price change $319,900
04/19/2011 Listed for sale $329,900
04/13/2011 Listing removed $329,900
04/05/2011 Price change $329,900
03/20/2011 Listed for sale $329,899
03/17/2011 Listing removed $329,900
03/01/2011 Price change $329,900
02/13/2011 Listed for sale $349,900
05/26/2010 Sold $280,000 -30.0% $174
11/04/2008 Listing removed $340,000
07/29/2008 Listed for sale $340,000
07/29/2008 Listing removed $340,000
07/03/2008 Listed for sale $340,000
10/07/2004 Sold $359,950
02/07/2002 Sold $170,000
Also, the price jump from 2002-2004 is astounding, but most of the DC-area houses online have this same pattern:
2002-2004 big jump
2004-2006 increase to a peak in 2006
2006-2008 decrease to 2004 prices
2008-2011 level off at 2004 prices.
Any house that have dropped below 2004 prices looked trashed inside and out.
Pricing looks exactly like the Charles Hugh Smith graph, where 2004 prices are “this must be the bottom.” So HBBers, do you think these houses are ever going to drop back to 2002 levels, or are they stuck at 2004 levels? Can the stability of DC outlast the housing bust. Should I pay high rent and wait for MERS to implode?
Looking at the US budget, there is a high likelihood of civil service job cuts in the near future. Might be worthwhile seeing what those do to house prices and rents in the area before making any big decisions.
More like contractors. In my section (engineering field), there is a push to do things in-house rather than contract it out.
Civil Service employees are more likely to die than get RIF’d.
Dear Oxide,
Yesterday you asked me about the Dutch House market. I’m based in the UK so I’ve little exposure to it. From here we can see Southern Ireland (Eire), Spain and most of Southern Europe are struggling according to our media (I’d use a stronger words than struggling), but news of Northern Europe is sparse to say the least. Assuming no news was good news I’d rather discounted them as bubble territory; however perhaps I’ve been wrong.
Dutch Housing Market Quarterly
Existing homes market
Downward trend continues
The slide in house prices seen in the fourth quarter of 2010 continued into the first quarter of 2011. The existing homes price index (PBK) of Statistics Netherlands/Land Registry dropped by 0.5% compared to the last quarter of 2010. This compares to a drop of 1.1% (q-o-q) in the last quarter of 2010. House prices are currently 1.2% lower than a year ago (figure 1). This second successive quarterly drop would appear to imply that the stabilisation of prices in the period from late 2009 to mid-2010 was merely temporary.
http://www.rabobank.com/content/images/DHMQ2011Q1_tcm43-141587.pdf
What was the point of Dodd-Frank?
Consumer protection.
Banking system solvancy.
Holding bankers accountable.
Sound accounting of profits at banks.
Oh, unless we repeal Dodd-Frank, we have no hope of significant economic recovery.
True. Unless we let banks rip people off, lie, cheat, steal and take insane risks which are sure to go bad, we’re hosed.
In short, we’re hosed.
Companies need to make that % profit every year. However, their target earnings growth is always more than can be provided by revenue growth from customers. So for the past 30 years they cut the expenses side to close the gap, decimating the middle class. Since they’ve already cut their companies to the bone, the only sources of profit they have left is to lie cheat and steal and to hide their revenue in tax havens. This is now how they make their money nowadays, so yes, I guess their business does depend on the gov allowing them to steal.
But this is their last card to play — I want to know what companies will do next year for their mandated profit. Go out of business entirely, choosing to make NO profit rather than endure the shame of not hitting their mandated % numbers?
We can’t make everyone rich, until everyone is poor.
I understand what you are saying. Government here in AZ has been doing similar. The first year of big revenue miss, they just missed a payment to schools by pusshing the June payment to July (AZ state FY is Juny-June) so 11 payments instead of 12. Great, now you need 13 payments the next year.
Nope, next year we just move May and June to July. Again, only 11 payments. But even that isn’t enough, so you sell some government buildings on a lease-back agreement and the building ownership reverts back to the state at the end of the lease, which looks and smells a lot like borrowing, but it can’t be since we have a balanced budget ammendment.
Then we add a “temp” 1% sales tax increase. Odd how Republicans are SURE that lowering taxes increases revenues and raising taxes loweres revenue, until they are in charge and the economy is truely tanking. Then, oddly, increased taxes somehow increases revenue… That’s just mind boggling.
Thank God that California’s new (old) governor did not fall for the leaseback trap. Like bonds, kicking the can down the road!
For the past 30 years, many businesses made their profit from Real Estate earnings.
I think that a lot of businesses are hoping to make money selling ketchup packet sized amounts of shampoo and other consumer goods to the worlds impoverished billions. Companies like HP and Apple are hoping to sell their electronic toys to the 3rd world’s upper classes.
We’ll see how this pans out.
At least they’d be selling a good or providing a service instead of pushing electrons around.
After the budget cuts the Tea Party helped negotiate, it seems likely there will be a sufficient dearth of money in the federal budget to make it quite easy to defang the nascent Consumer Protection Agency.
We’ll see eventually if there are any actual budget cuts in the works. I suspect any so-called cuts are simply reductions in the increases planned. We can, in years to come, just pad the budget to allow for whatever % cuts will please and party on.
So in other words:
1) The Fed Gov will continue to borrow close to 2 trillion a year.
2) The Federal Reserve will continue conjuring money out of thin air to fund a major portion of that deficit.
3) The price of food, energy, education, healthcare, etc will continue to rise while the PTB continue insisting that inflation is “tamed”
I suspect any so-called cuts are simply reductions in the increases planned.”
I think thats right what a joke all that drama to decrease future spending and not by that much as they raised the debt limit anyway
“After the budget cuts the Tea Party helped negotiate…”
Please, $21 Billion out of $3,700 Billion? Not even one percent. The Tea Party got virtually nothing.
The Tea Party got virtually nothing.
When god was handing out brains?
(sorry)
After the budget cuts the Tea Party helped negotiate, it seems likely there will be a sufficient dearth of money in the federal budget to make it quite easy to defang the nascent Consumer Protection Agency.
Here’s what I predict: Elizabeth Warren’s been run out of Washington, DC.
But, smart lady, she’s going back to one of the most respected law schools in the United States. Around Harvard Law, she’s known as a good, but tough, professor. She’s known as Socrates with a Machine Gun.
Warren is also a very gifted writer and speaker. I’ll betcha money that she’s already working on a book about her time in DC. A book that will name names. Some of whom will be very high in DC politics.
Said book will emerge during the height of the 2012 presidential election campaign. And it will say some not-so-nice things about both major candidates — my bets are on Obama vs. Romney, who is the former governor of the state where Harvard University is located.
So, this story ain’t over yet, people. Stay tuned. The fireworks are about to begin.
Elizabeth Warren:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A&feature=related
I’m Canadian but the family Elizabeth describes is the family in which I grew up: Dad worked, Mom stayed home. She describes where we are and how we got here.
Prices should be used to measure inflation, and money flow should be used to measure the level of economic activity. So nominal prices can go up buy few people buy anything: otherwise known as stagflation.
House prices should be used to measure inflation. The whole economy should be based on house prices. We need to sell eachother houses to survive. It is our destiny.
A free-market fix to the nation’s housing hangover
By Nicole Gelinas
July 31, 2011
Washington has attempted to intervene since the start of the crisis, but the interventions have only prolonged the pain. And elected officials have been reluctant to do the one thing that would make a difference: forcing lenders to accept responsibility for their bad lending practices.
Take the 2009 home buyer tax credit, which dangled an $8,000 credit to first-time home buyers. The bust had just exposed the consequences of reckless borrowing, so what did Washington do? It encouraged more people to take on debt to buy homes that were still overvalued, and encouraged the banks to fund that indebtedness.
Another Washington program, the Home Affordable Modification Program, was supposed to encourage banks to modify loans for underwater homeowners. But the modifications that lenders offered seldom addressed the problem. Many offers involved extending teaser interest rates, or tacking on defaulted amounts to the end of a mortgage’s life. Washington has not used its leverage to push lenders to write down the amount owed. Instead, the biggest beneficiaries of Washington’s modification program have been mortgage “servicers,” the folks who handle paperwork for lenders to modify loans.
To see how bizarre the government’s strategy is, consider this: Recently, federal regulators exacted a $108-million settlement from Countrywide, once the nation’s largest mortgage lender. The money is because Countrywide, now owned by Bank of America, has behaved incompetently, at best, in servicing defaulted mortgages.
Yet over the last year, through the Home Affordable Modification Program, federal taxpayers have spent nearly $132 million in “incentive payments” to Countrywide and its investors and borrowers to reward the company for its superficial mortgage adjustments.
The Federal Housing Administration too has done its part to keep the bubble inflated, nearly doubling the size of mortgages eligible for a government-insured lending program, to $729,750, up from $417,000, starting in the fall of 2008. People can put as little as 3.5% down for such loans, meaning that a slim decrease in house prices traps them underwater too.
It’s time to end these market-distorting charades. If President Obama won’t say so, one of his White House rivals should seize the moment.
House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-gelinas-foreclosure-california-20110731,0,5937152.story - 212k -
“People can put as little as 3.5% down for such loans, meaning that a slim decrease in house prices traps them underwater too.”
Come-uppance is a b!tch.
Heck, my brother bought a house in metro Raleigh 3 years ago (against my advice) and put 20% down.
He told me he’s now underwater.
That’s a big problem with the theory that putting in 20% down is somehow going to make it safe for you to buy a home. If you are competing with others putting in 3.5% down or less, who are likely to go into foreclosure in a few years, leading to the lender putting those homes back on the market, you are at high risk of losing a full 20% of the purchase price in home equity losses.
Of course, this is no skin off the lender’s back, as they are federally indemnified against loss of principle.
“If President Obama won’t say so, one of his White House rivals should seize the moment.”
I don’t expect to see this until the day when NAR campaign contributions are outlawed.
Nor will we see this while 68% of the population or so is on the “own” side of the equation. All these free-market solutions will only help smart-money renters. And how many votes would that be? 50?
Eventually though, the unemployed/underemployed will not care if their neighbor ever gets their wishing price, all they will want is a job. Up until this point most everyone has been playing nice, assuming that higher house prices will soemhow reignite the job market.
People don’t seem to think about this fact: If housing was priced significantly lower, taking that lower paying job wounldn’t be such a hard pill to swallow.
Everyone’s well trained to only think in terms of up. But what if we all started insisting on prices in favored industries to move to where the market alone would bear. Equalibrium would take a while to settle in and that would be a painful period but maybe we should embrace the downward spiral and look forward to it at a time when our work force would once again be competitive.
And which favored industries would those be? Middle-end clothing? We’re already boycotting that to where the market can bear Wal-mart clothing — see the JC Penney layoffs. Cars? Sales are down. Food? Gas? Health insurance? These are “needs” industries which you can’t exactly boycott, not for very long. Competition doesn’t work as well in “needs” industries.
Competition doesn’t work as well when there is little or no competition and major players work together to buy gov and prevent competition.
Here in Wi Miller Coors etc pushed a bill through that prevents small craft brews from being able to distribute their beer.
Now a large player is trying to buy up one of the successful microbrews. Destroy competition is the plan. They won’t tolerate even 10% of the market being controlled by others.
Take cell phones big mergers lead us with what 3 major players.
The story is endless there can be only one.
Carrie Ann, it doesn’t matter if house prices are significantly lower, if you’ve already bought one. Now if everybody declared bankruptcy and walked en masse, and then bought a low-price shack five years later, then yes, it’s okay to have a low pay job. But once you’ve signed on the line, you CAN’T take a low pay job. And politicians know that full well.
As Ben was saying early on. Any attempt to hold up prices just gives the builders more time to push more inventory. We should have let prices fall further, faster, shut down building sooner, and reduced the excess inventory sooner.
I’ll add, attempts to hold prices up, just gave households more oppertunity to HELOC out cash, making the incentive to walk higher and losses from foreclosure larger.
“House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.”
Why does this sound familiar? Maybe because I and others have repeatedly suggested it here for several years running now?
The problem is, what if the bottom is $0.
Condos down the street from me that were selling for $150K at the peak, now sit on the market for less than $25K.
Where is the bottom on this when PITI is less than condo association fee.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5445-W-Friess-Dr-Glendale-AZ-85306/2133381237_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-address}
Oh, but that is just a crud condo.. houses are different.
Really?
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14026-N-56th-Ave-Glendale-AZ-85306/7911281_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-address}
Check the 10-year and see the $120K pre-bubble, then look at the “listing removed” because it wouldn’t sell at $77K.
Or, I could post the link to how rents in Phoenix are falling off a cliff. For years they were rising, not because specific unit rents were rising, but becuase it was larger and nicer houses being rented. Well, that “better units” preasure up has now been overcome by the speed in which rents are falling.
I checked rents for a house on this street in ‘07. $1300-1400. One went empty and a for rent sign went up a few months ago. Just as a joke, I called and asked the asking price. $1000 a month. It has been empty for a couple months, so I called back. They said $850. When I said thanks as if to end the conversation, they came back with.. what would it take to get you into this house? My answer was, “For you to buy my house right down the street for the $150K I owe”. They seemed pretty depressed by that answer.
I feel yet another foreclosure on the street can’t be far away.
“The problem is, what if the bottom is $0.”
Lyrics By Fixx -
Maybe, someday
I’ll be more together
Maybe I’ll win
Saved by zero
Maybe I’ll win
Saved by zero
A song way ahead of its time.
Beautiful looking graph.
“The problem is, what if the bottom is $0.”
It generally isn’t, unless you let homes sit vacant for so long that the money it costs to fix them up to livable standards completely offsets the purchase price for comparable housing that is not trashed.
banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed.”
Banks don’t need to do anything but borrow at 0% from the FED and loan it out to investment banks buying GOLD, Oil, emerging market debt and last of all raise all fees.
The FED is enabling the banks to survive with millions of underwater homes on their books.
Yes discriminate against those who are responsible or who have never been in debt until the rug was pulled out from under us.
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banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed
House prices need to find their lows. That would give buyers confidence to jump back in at prices they could afford without sacrificing their futures to debt. To help prices find their new normal, banks need to modify loans by reducing the amount owed. When that doesn’t make sense, banks should foreclose on delinquent owners promptly and legally. The current high number of bad loans in limbo guarantees economic chaos.
I heartily agree with the above.
And I’ve already told y’all the story of my cousin, who tried to give his foreclosed house back to the bank. Bank didn’t want it. So, according to my aunt, they re-negotiated a lower amount owed. My cousin agreed to that. House is still his.
So, if my cousin’s story is any sort of example, banks can re-negotiate mortgage contracts. And it looks like they’re realizing that it may be in their best interest.
I bet most of the loans that need to be modified are either refi’s or the borrowers lied on the loan application.
Have the refi borrowers pay the difference between purchase loan and refi and provide them a loan at the original amount.
I wonder where all that money went?
California Hotel Foreclosures Jump 91% as Lenders Seek to Sell Properties
(Bloomberg)
Hotel foreclosures in California jumped 91 percent in the second quarter as lenders repossessed properties to sell them amid a recovery in property prices, Atlas Hospitality Group said today.
The number of foreclosed hotels climbed to 191 in the three months ended June 30 from 100 a year earlier, according to the Irvine, California-based brokerage. Seizures also rose from the first quarter, when lenders took over 148 California hotels. The state’s biggest hotel foreclosure in the second quarter was the 331-room Hilton Sacramento Arden West, Atlas said.
The average U.S. hotel purchase price climbed to $192,479 a room in the second quarter, up more than 25 percent from 2006, during the property boom, according to Real Capital Analytics Inc. Values are being driven up this year by a surge in luxury- hotel transactions, the New York-based research company said.
“The rise in foreclosures can be largely attributed to lenders now having the financial reserves to be able to foreclose and sell the properties at today’s market values,” Atlas President Alan Reay said in a statement. The hotels being repossessed have been “in trouble for a long time and lenders were delaying taking any action,” he said in an interview.
Hey, I’ve had a really hard day and I hate the *&(&% Eagles.
– Il Duderino
But Mr. Bubble, we all thought you loved pink champagne on ice! -
Loss of home equity downsizes retirement for many
By Sandra Block, USA TODAY
Paul Trigili, an information technology professional in Las Vegas, is 65, has back problems and would like to retire at the end of the year. There’s just one thing standing in his way: his house.
Paul Trigili, 65, and his wife Terri, 60, are postponing retirement partly because of the steep drop in the value of their home in North Las
Trigili bought his home three years ago for $350,000. At the time, he thought it was a good deal, because the home originally was priced at $450,000. Today, it’s valued at $184,000.
Trigili made a large down payment when he bought the home, so he doesn’t owe more on his mortgage than the home is worth. But his plans to sell his home and use the proceeds for retirement income have been placed on indefinite hold.
“We’re pretty much stuck here,” Trigili says. “Now, I don’t look at retirement at all. I’d like to work as long as I can.”
Nearly 32% of adults over age 50 say their home has declined substantially in value over the past three years, according to a survey by AARP. Many won’t recover those losses by the time they reach retirement age, says Jay Butler, associate professor of real estate at the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University.
“Nobody sees rapid appreciation in home values over the next 10 years,” he says. As a result, he adds, “A lot of folks will postpone retirement.”
Declining home equity is a problem that not only can force would-be retirees to keep working, it can complicate their eventual retirement in a range of ways. Many retirees, for example, have long counted on the proceeds from the sale of their homes to help fund health-care costs and long-term care expenses that they’ll inevitably face.
Such concerns have led Gary Pagliaro, 58, of Stratford, Conn., to think he might have to work longer than expected.
Pagliaro had planned to retire at 62, sell his home and buy another in the Southwest, where the cost of living is lower than in the Northeast. When he made those plans, his home was valued at $325,000 to $350,000. Now, he thinks he’d be lucky to sell it for $225,000.
Pagliaro, an accountant, says he and his wife, Elizabeth, had hoped to buy a single-family home in Arizona or Nevada, but now they’re considering buying a condo instead. And unless their home’s value rebounds, he may work longer before relocating to the Southwest.
“Depending on what happens over the next four years, I might have to rethink the 62 retirement age,” he says.
I need those folks to retire to help my job future! I’m smack dab in the middle between folks that should be retiring and the college kids chasing my tail up the ladder.
This is a problem that is not being addressed by those who want to raise the Social Security retirement age.
I know more than a few Owemoes like Paul and Terri who paid $250k and thought they got a deal because the last owner paid or should I say borrowed $450k.
“Paul Trigili, 65, and his wife Terri, 60, are postponing retirement partly because of the steep drop in the value of their home in North Las Trigili bought his home three years ago for $350,000. At the time, he thought it was a good deal, because the home originally was priced at $450,000. Today, it’s valued at $184,000.”
A free-market fix to the nation’s housing hangover
By Nicole Gelinas
July 31, 2011
Take the 2009 home buyer tax credit, which dangled an $8,000 credit to first-time home buyers. The bust had just exposed the consequences of reckless borrowing, so what did Washington do? It encouraged more people to take on debt to buy homes that were still overvalued, and encouraged the banks to fund that indebtedness.
States that have been trying to attract teh “rich Baby Boomers” will soon regret that… I strongly suspect.
When their pension providers go bankrupt, when SS gets cut, and when states start getting block grants, expected to provide services for 170% as many people with less money….
when states start getting block grants, expected to provide services for 170% as many people with less money
Goodbye doctor … hello nurse practioner at Walgreens.
Already happening here in Arizona. Those drug store clinics are busy, busy, busy.
Meanwhile, over at the Taj Mahal doctors’ offices, business just isn’t as brisk as it once was.
WTF does the price at which you can sell your house for have anything to do with retirement. This is a canard that gets repeated incessantly by the MSM. What were these money grubbing bastards planning? A move to Zimbabwe?
And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long. “Retirement” is a uniquely western 20th century idea. It used to mean your company would retire you after x years of service and hire new workers. The self-entitled have redefined it to mean that someone will hand them hundreds of thousands of dollars for a depreciating house?
Get over it America. Get over it home debtors. Get over it you self entitled windbags. Get over it my coworkers. If I have to frugalize in my working years and non-working years, the rest of you self entitled mofo’s are gonna do the same.
Hear, hear!!!!!
My grandparents that paid 1/7th to SS what I will pay(assuming no increases), AND retired when companies still offered pensions have NO problem cutting my SS payments, but I better not touch thiers.
My parents that paid 1/3rd what I will pay, and got sweet early retirement buyouts when companies stopped their pansion offerings, have no problem cutting SS and MC for me, but I BETTER not touch thiers.
I may not still be a computer programmer when I’m 70, but you can bet I’ll still be heading out to my paying job, if not jobs.
Late baby boomers are going to get scrooged on the Social Security pay-in to pay-out ratio. Ours will be the highest of any cohort.
Paul Ryan is your grandparents’ age?
I may not still be a computer programmer when I’m 70, but you can bet I’ll still be heading out to my paying job
it’s not that we forget what we know, it’s just that it’s get harder and harder to learn the new stuff. I remember 20 years ago I learned unix. Nearly killed me but I still know it. Oh yeah 20 years ago I learned multiple technologies simultaneously. Nowadays I still learn but one thing at a time.
A kid in the Apple Store in Carousel Mall in Syracuse NY asked how in the terminal window do you look for a txt file with the word apple in it?
find . -name “*.txt” -print | xargs -i grep -i apple {}
One big reason to wait for the bottom to truly pass is to simply avoid letting them off the hook. You have something they desperately need - do they have anything that you really need?
A PITI that is 40% less than the rent?
“And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long.”
You know, I’m still looking at retirement as something I want. Age 60 maybe. I’m making sacrifices now to get it later, which I doubt is common amongst the ‘victims’ in these types of articles.
Well good luck. People think I’m joking but I’m serious. I will be laid off eventually and you’ll find me working at Walmart in my 60’s.
I may be working at Walmart in my 90s, like one of Bernie Madoff’s victims (if I live that long).
And this obsession with retirement has been over the top for far too long. “Retirement” is a uniquely western 20th century idea. It used to mean your company would retire you after x years of service and hire new workers. The self-entitled have redefined it to mean that someone will hand them hundreds of thousands of dollars for a depreciating house?
There’s a very good book by Craig Karpel that I recommend to just about everyone. It’s called The Retirement Myth, and it basically says that retirement is an idea whose time has come and gone.
With regards from your HBB Librarian…
The amount of money it takes to retire, especially in an a low interest rate environment is simply monstrous. Even a nest egg like Hobo Bill’s will generate only a tiny income stream at current interest rates.
The best most will be able to hope for is to switch to an easier (and hence lower paying) job and supplement it with whatever they can get from SS.
“Even a nest egg like Hobo Bill’s will generate only a tiny income stream at current interest rates.”
And could be inflated to half its pruchasing power in 10 years.
What were these money grubbing bastards planning? A move to Zimbabwe?
They were probably thinking of moving to flyover country.
AZ and NV IS flyover country.
To be fair, that was bubbly North Las Vegas. Drive up the highway some and there is nothing.
Flyover means no city (no jobs) nearby.
As NYCBoy would say: I like your anger.
I call BS on both these ho-hos.
If Paul is 65 and with a bad back, he should have been downsizing and planning retirement for the past three years, NOT paying $350K for a home when he was 62. I’m sure he could have stayed in his old house, or rented, for a few years without much financial strain. He was hoping to cash in on teh money, and was 5 years too late to the party.
Meanwhile, Gary is 58. Even if he bought his home 10 years ago (late in life), then he should have plenty of equity left to buy his home in the Southwest. If he bought or refi’d since then, then he’s hosed.
I bet Paul and his wife bought the “house of their dreams” as one couple in thier 60’s told me, followed by “the old house was just so small (after the kids moved out)”
I had a friend who sold their 3/1 and bought a much larger house when their oldest (of 3) was 17. I couldn’t understand why they didn’t just wait a couple of years. The house that was too small for 5 would be great for 2.
So they need more without the kids than they did with them? Personally the older I get, the less I want big areas to keep up.
J.C. Penney Laying Off 442 Workers at Manchester Distribution Center
Notice To State Says Company Closing Facility’s Dot-Com Unit
~courant.com
JCPenney will layoff 442 workers at its Manchester distribution center, according to a notice filed Tuesday with the Connecticut Department of Labor.
The notice says the retailer is only closing the facility’s dot-com unit; workers’ last day will be Sept 30.
Along with other functions, the approximately 2-million-square-foot Tolland Turnpike facility is one of four warehouses in the country that distributes items ordered from jcpenney.com.
In April, the retailer said that part of the operation will be eliminated this fall. At that time, a company spokesman estimated that 150 workers of the facility’s 900 workers would lose their jobs, but cautioned that the exact figure wouldn’t be known until the retailer reconfigured the facility.
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The company said this spring that workers facing layoffs could apply for other jobs, but it wasn’t clear whether the offer stands.
J.C. Penney could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
JC Penny had the worst service of any online retailer I tried. No wonder they’re having problems.
Local layoffs total 800-plus, state report says. - Chicago Business
(Crain’s) — Six Cook County companies have notified the state that they plan a total of more than 800 job cuts by September.
Sun-Times Media Holdings LLC, publisher of the Chicago Sun-Times and other newspapers, will eliminate 456 jobs at its Chicago printing plant, according to a monthly Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act report released by the Illinois Department of Employment Security.
The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act — known as Warn — requires firms with at least 75 employees to give the state 60 days’ notice of closings or a certain number of layoffs
Sun-Times Media’s layoffs are the result of its decision last month to stop printing its own issues. Outsourcing printing responsibilities to rival Tribune Co. will save the struggling media company about $10 million annually.
Most of the workers losing their jobs are unionized pressroom personnel, paper handlers, electricians, machinists, drivers and operating engineers. Layoffs will begin on Sept. 30 and conclude by Dec. 30, according to the state report.
Also in Chicago, Schofield Media Group LLC, which publishes Construction Today, Manufacturing Today and other business-to-business magazines, will close after unexpectedly losing its bank funding, according to President and Chief Operating Officer Brian Reshefsky. The number of jobs affected totals 107.
Private Sector Added 114,000 Jobs in July: ADP- Reuters
Private employers added 114,000 jobs in July, topping economists’ expectations, a report by a payrolls processor showed on Wednesday.
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Aug. 3, 2011, 7:30 a.m. EDT
Job cuts surge 60% to 16-month high
By Steve Goldstein
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The number of announced job cuts surged 60% to a 16-month high of 66,414 in July, according to the consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas. Merck & Co., Borders, Cisco Systems, Lockheed Martin and Boston Scientific accounted for 57% of the total, or 38,100 positions. “What may be most worrisome about the July surge is that the heaviest layoffs occurred in industries that, until now, have enjoyed relatively low job-cut levels, including pharmaceuticals, computer and retail,” said John A. Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
the government says no double dip
so what that really means.. we are in trouble -40% average stock market loses in recessions
could get bumby ahead fasten seat belts and what ever you do don’t buy a over priced S CA home
1) ADP is usually way off from BLS.
2) Wisper number is that BLS will report 75K jobs lost from state and local governments.
Joke from CNBC, attributed to the street in general…
This month the BLS won’t have to report a jobs number. They can just report the names of people that got jobs.
114k jobs added in one month
~1.6 million filed for unemployment in the same month (based on 400k per week)
Ye… ah. We’re hosed.
Gold bugs beware, my mom is talking about getting the precious.
And many other moms are pawning their gold jewelry for the meltdown value of the precious — just like in the late-1970s.
It’s hard to believe that people would willingly hand over their gold for worthless scraps of paper!
Modern day gold rush: Many sell old jewelry in exchange for cash
by WHAS11 News
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Updated Tuesday, Jul 19 at 6:01 PM
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WHAS11)- Gold is now selling for $1,600 an ounce, and many people are turning their jewelry into cash.
For some people, it is a matter of survival. For others, they just want something new.
The value of gold has jumped $100 in just two months, partly because of fear over the United States’ debt, and gold is seen as being a safe investment.
People are cashing in their gold at fine stores and pawn shops.
It is a modern day gold rush.
Shirley Brooks hopes the skyrocketing value of gold, at $1,600 an ounce, will help pay for some of her family’s steep medical bills.
“It’s going to be a catastrophe,” said Brooks. “I have to pay the doctor and hospital and all out of my pocket.”
The family filled two Ziploc bags with decades-old family gold just lying around the house, and took it to the popular pawn shop Little John’s, popularly known from their commercials.
“You can take this money right now and spend it,” said John Tan, owner of Little John’s.
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Worthless paper that can still be used to pay this month’s rent or put food on the table for another month.
So far, I have not seen anyone use gold to buy groceries, but I am keeping my eyes peeled.
I’m thinking of selling what little gold I have to pay for a new roof. Decisions…
“It’s going to be a catastrophe,” said Brooks. “I have to pay the doctor and hospital and all out of my pocket.”
It’s only going to be a “catastrophe”? Just that?
I guess she must have health-insurance. You guys are getting played hard!
Check it out:
1st world Brazilian private health insurance including dental, vision, acupuncture, psych counseling, homeopathic, low copay and deductibles, male, late 40’s: Drum roll???……………$150 per month. Oh wait…..now it’s $158 per month (I forgot the dollar dropped again) This is in expensive Rio!
Or Brazilian basic, wait in line for hours at a clinic health care: FREE (but at least you don’t have to sell your mom’s gold)
I guess she must have health-insurance. You guys are getting played hard!
That’s the problem with high deductible plans. While you are technically insured you still need to cough up that $1500 (or higher) deductible, and for non emergency services the good doctor/clinic/hospital expect to be paid up front before you receive any services.
Ain’t that America!
Wendell Potter has much to say about high-deductible plans. And none of it’s good. From his latest blog post:
At the end of 2010, executives told Wall Street that the “utilization” of medical services was lower than in 2009 because the flu season last year was less severe. They assured investors utilization would return to more normal levels during the first quarter of 2011.
When it didn’t, the bad winter weather was to blame. Insurance executives wanted us to believe that people were not getting the care they needed because it was colder and snowier than usual. They assured us that medical spending would jump again as soon as the weather improved and the ice and snow melted.
Surprise! It’s August and people are still not going to the doctor or picking up their prescriptions or checking into the hospital as much as they usually do. .
And what’s the excuse this time? It’s the economy, they say — even though the recession officially ended more than a year ago. At least UnitedHealth’s executives acnkowledged that, as AP reported, “health plans that make patients more aware of the cost of care may be having an impact.”
May be? Give me a break. And stop the double-speak. What we’re so aware of is that we’re simply unable to get the care we need because of the often sky-high deductibles of today’s health plans, which insurers mislabel “consumer-driven.”
That’s the problem with high deductible plans. While you are technically insured you still need to cough up that $1500 (or higher) deductible,
Plans work different here (hey it’s Brazil) You get a set premium per month and let’s say you get a bunch of blood work that would cost maybe $900 in the USA. Here, for the next 3 months they would then add about $20 to your bill but I guess there are really no co-pays or deductibles. But it’s kind of the same in the end. (but cheaper)
I did an MRI once and it added a total of about $100 spread over a few months to my bills.
And when the requirement to buy insurance kicks in in 2014, people will consume even less health care. What little they could afford will go to the insurance companies instead of doctors. I wonder how long it will take before the fines are less than premiums.
Jim Crammer pimping it to no end on CNBC. It is almost like 1999 and DotComs.
Let me guess. She saw Harold Hill aka Glen Becks commercial for gold?
Let me know when there are sign twirlers hawking gold for sale, as opposed to “We buy gold”.
CHINA NEWS
AUGUST 3, 2011, 8:27 A.M. ET
China Central Bank Chief Warns on U.S. Debt
By JASON DEAN And AARON BACK
BEIJING—In his first public comments on Washington’s debt deal, China’s central bank chief welcomed the passage of the bill that avoided a U.S. default but called on the U.S. to adopt “responsible measures” to manage its debt issues and pledged to continue diversifying China’s dollar-dominated currency reserves.
The comments Wednesday by People’s Bank of China Gov. Zhou Xiaochuan came as the country’s state media continued to condemn Washington over its debt problems, and as one of China’s smaller credit ratings companies downgraded its sovereign rating for the U.S.
Mr. Zhou, in a statement on the central bank’s website, warned that U.S. bond-market volatility could affect the stability of the entire international monetary system and “encumber the global economic recovery.” He called on U.S. policy makers to “act in the interests of themselves and the whole world” in further addressing debt issues. He said China will watch developments while continuing to diversify and strengthen risk management of its foreign exchange reserves.
The chaotic U.S. debt talks in recent weeks have aggravated longstanding concerns in China—the U.S.’s biggest foreign creditor and owner of the world’s largest currency reserves, at more than $3.2 trillion—about its overreliance on the dollar. But the events have also underscored the paucity of serious alternatives China has to investing in Treasurys and other dollar assets.
The state-run Xinhua news agency published a biting commentary on Wednesday saying the higher debt ceiling “failed to defuse Washington’s debt bomb for good, only delaying an immediate detonation by making the fuse an inch longer.” Xinhua urged the U.S. to roll out measures to balance the federal budget, warning that failure to do so would damage U.S. credibility.
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So hoarding US debt obligations was not a wise move after all? Suckers!
Go diversify and see who will buy your stuff! Same goes for all the export oriented nations like Japan, Germany and South Korea.
Trade is good, but you want to make sure you get something real in return, not just IOUs.
Germany doesn’t need you guys to buy their stuff - China will buy whatever Germany exports. Wait…uh oh!
Go diversify and see who will buy your stuff!
Exactly … they’re posturing.
Trade is good, but you want to make sure you get something real in return, not just IOUs.
Ah, but that implies that they open their markets. Remember:
When they practice protectionsim: goooooood!
When we practice protectionism: baaaaaaad!
called on the U.S. to adopt “responsible measures” to manage its debt issues ”
but the US has alot of poor people who can’t find jobs, can’t pay for food, rent , medical care we need to keep helping them.
Doesn’t China understand this ? maybe China doesn’t know what its like to have millions of poor people … oh wait nevermind
Agreement Reached on Overhaul of U.S. Financial System
By STEPHEN LABATON
October 23, 1999
ASHINGTON — The Clinton Administration and top Republican lawmakers reached an agreement early Friday to overhaul the financial system, repealing Depression-era laws that have restricted the banking, securities and insurance industries from expanding into one another’s businesses.
Dodd, whose state is home to the nation’s largest insurance companies, and Schumer, with strong ties to Wall Street, have long sought legislation to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act. Both men said in interviews Friday that they moved to strike a compromise after it became apparent that the legislation might be killed, as it was last year by Gramm, over the debate about the Community Reinvestment Act.
Gramm had maintained that he did not want anything in the bill that would expand the application of the Community Reinvestment Act because it was, he said, unnecessarily burdensome to banks. He had sought a provision that would exempt thousands of smaller banks from the law. He also wanted a provision that would expose what he has described as the “extortion” committed by community groups against banks by requiring the groups to disclose any special financial deals the groups extract from the banks.
But the White House found that provision unacceptable and had its own ideas about community lending. It wanted the legislation to prevent any bank with an unsatisfactory record of making loans to the disadvantaged from expanding into new areas, like insurance or securities.
The White House had insisted that the President would veto any legislation that would scale back minority-lending requirements. Four days of intense negotiations between Summers, Gene Sperling, the President’s top economic policy adviser, and Gramm, while moving the two sides closer, failed to resolve the differences.
But Administration officials had spent all day making sure that the Democrats remained solidly against the measure until their concerns about the Community Reinvestment Act could be worked out.
After receiving calls from executives of some of the nation’s leading financial companies, Dodd and Schumer began trying to work out a compromise. An agreement was quickly reached on the issue of banks and expanded powers — no institution would be allowed to move into any new lines of business without a satisfactory lending record
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/financial/102399banks-congress.html - 18k - Cached -
And that worked out well.
Greece in panic as it faces change of Homeric proportions
Fear is driving a silent bank run in Greece – but some see the government’s austerity plans as a chance to transform
Aditya Chakrabortty
guardian.co.uk, Monday 1 August 2011 20.11 BST
“Greece is already one of the poorest and most unequal societies in Europe, reckons Christos Papatheodorou at the Democritus University of Thrace. Among the few countries that look worse are Romania, Bulgaria and Latvia. So what will Greek society look like after the government’s austerity measures take effect? He pauses, then says: “It will probably look like a developing country.”
That message has not been lost on workers either: one of the new nouns used by trade union members and others who oppose the cuts is kinezopeisi, or China-isation. The claim is that such large drops in wages will lead to a workforce paid barely more than their counterparts in Shenzhen.”
Is this our future?
Yes.
“For now, those days are well and truly over. In Athens’ upmarket shopping district of Kolonaki, boutiques that used to have waiting lists for designer handbags have shut. One sign says the owners have relocated – to Rome. “
Good move.
“In one clothes shop, with racks of discounted Calvin Klein and DKNY, the manager, Sav, explains what’s happened: “In this crisis, the middle classes have been hollowed out.” That is just what happened in Buenos Aires during its crash last decade.”
I suspect many of the Tea Part folks are figuring that if they throw seniors and poor folk under the bus, they can remain in the middle class.
Them and several folks here, as well.
You see other comments at most of the other news services. You wold think seniors and the poor and struggling are the cause of all the world’s ills.
“Outside the soup kitchen of the Aghia Triada church in Piraeus, near Athens, more of Greece’s new poor are waiting for a handout. Anna and her two daughters have walked in the midday sun to get here and are now queueing up with the long-term homeless.
That is not Anna’s situation though; she lost her job three years ago but has still hung on to her house. That said, she no longer has the income or the benefits to pay bills and the electricity was cut off last month.
Inside, Pater Daniel, the head priest, says that he’s noticed a lot more “well-dressed, clean” people taking free meals from the church. He reels off stories of a 23-year-old man who left last week for Australia, and a 40-year-old woman who lost her job on Friday.”
Better be first on that bus. By the time we crash, nobody will be accepting American immigrants.
“Because the Greek Orthodox church is partly on the state payroll, the clergyman’s salary has fallen by almost 10% to €15,000 a year.
Is he saying that the Orthodox church is also subject to public spending cuts? Pater Daniel laughs, then holds up five fingers: there are five priests in Piraeus, and soon there will only be one. He’s pondering taking a second job.“
Do Orthodox priests take a vow of poverty?
The married Greek Orthodox Priests sure do.
Greek Orthodox Priests can have families(provided they get married before they take their vows).
Market Pulse Archives
Aug. 3, 2011, 10:05 a.m. EDT
July ISM services index drops to 52.7% from 53.3%
By Jeffry Bartash
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The Institute for Supply Management on Wednesday said its service-sector index fell to 52.7% in July from 53.3% in June. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected the services index to rise to 53.5%. While readings over 50% indicate more firms are expanding than contracting, the index is sharply lower compared to a recent peak of 59.7% in February. The new orders index dropped 1.9 percentage points to 51.7% and the backlog of orders index declined 4.5 percentage points to 44.0%. Thirteen of the 18 service sectors tracked by ISM reported growth. The U.S. service sector - fields such as health, finance and entertainment - accounts for three-fourths of all economic activity. It also employs about four of every five U.S. workers.
“The U.S. service sector - fields such as health, FINANCE and entertainment - accounts for three-fourths of all economic activity. It also employs about four of every five U.S. workers.”
Nope, nothing wrong with this picture.
- 10-yr T-bond at 2.60% yield and falling.
- Trying to invert?
- Still a long way down from here to March 2009 lows…
During the Arab spring, I pulled much of my 401(k) from stocks to bonds. Had been regretting that for much of summer, but I’m now well above where I would have been had I stayed stocks.
Lots of technical damage done over the last 2 weeks. Another crisis brewing in EURO-land, this time its too big to bail with Spain and Italy at stake.
I think there simply is too much money out there for every $$ to find a save hiding spot. Gold going crazy right now.
Scary times…
Exceptionally interesting to hear the Euros admit they might have trouble holding it together today.
“Sell in May and walk away.”
How many economic crashes happen in spring? Few. How many in fall? Many more. I can think of 4-5 off the top of my head. I know, the rule works until it doesn’t, but best to play it safe.
Right now I’m reading Theodore Rex, and he too had a stock market crisis on his watch, in 1906. The treasury secretary and big banks staved off a full on crash in late October. I’m staying out until Halloween at least.
Right now I’m reading Theodore Rex, and he too had a stock market crisis on his watch, in 1906.
Excellent book on Teddy Roosevelt, BTW. Anyone read the next in the series, Colonel Roosevelt?
That’s tomorrow’s job. I plan to finish T.Rex tonight. I thought Rise was better.
During the Arab spring, I pulled much of my 401(k) from stocks to bonds. Had been regretting that for much of summer, but I’m now well above where I would have been had I stayed stocks.
I’ve been looking at doing some bond investing as well. Sorry, stock market, but you’re much too bipolar for my taste.
I’m also pondering the notion of investing in local businesses. Did this sort of thing once before — it was an infill development that I was thinking of moving into, but didn’t. Took a few years to recoup the investment, but I did — and got the 8% interest that I was promised.
How about a little Springsteen for the markets today.
you get your kicks from just a-drivin’ me
Down, down, down, down. - I’m go-in’
Down, down, down, down. - I’m go-in’
Down, down, down, down. - I’m go-in’
Down, down, down, down.
You idjut…you just summoned the PPT!
apparently that is the distress call.
“You idjut…you just summoned the PPT!”
I`ll fix it.
Sammy Hagar Dreams Lyrics
We’ll get higher and higher
straight up we’ll climb
we’ll get higher and higher
leave it all behind
Run, run, run away
like a train runnin’ off the track
got the truth bein’ left behind
falls between the cracks
standin’ on broken dreams
never losin’ sight, ah
well just spread your wings
We’ll get higher and higher
straight up we’ll climb
we’ll get higher and higher
leave it all behind
So baby dry your eyes
save all the tears you’ve cried
oh, that’s what dreams are made of
‘cause we belong in a world that must be strong
oh, that’s what dreams are made of
My Hometown
Now main streets whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there aint nobody wants to come down here no more
They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they aint coming back
Or, Born in the USA
Born down in a dead man town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that’s been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up
…
Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man
Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man said son if it was up to me
Went down to see my v.a. man
He said son, don’t you understand
I had a brother at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They’re still there, he’s all gone
And Reagan thought that song was about how great the USA is… Really?
Doesn’t sound like “Over there” or “Anchors Aweigh” or “Happy Times are Here Again” to me….
And Reagan thought that song was about how great the USA is… Really?
Just like dubya thought it was great that a woman he met had to hold down 3 jobs.
Just goes to show ya. Listen to the refrain, and all you get is a catchy line. Listen to all the words in the song, and you get its message.
Well, there’s people and more people
What do they know, know, know
Go to work in some high rise
And vacation down at the Gulf of Mexico
Ooh, yeah
And there’s winners and there’s losers
But they ain’t no big deal
‘Cause the simple man, baby
Pays for thrills
The bills the pills that kill
Oh, but ain’t that America
For you and me
Ain’t that America
Something to see, baby
Ain’t that America
Home of the free, yeah
Little pink houses
For you and me
Oooh
Ooooh, yeah…
eveyones singing again not a good sign on this BB
you guys always sign when things are getting bad
Service firms expand at slowest pace in 17 months; growth in new orders, employment weakens
WASHINGTON (AP) — Restaurants, hotels, retailers and financial companies saw more business in July, but the broader U.S. service industry experienced its weakest growth in 17 months.
The report Wednesday from the Institute for Supply Management confirms other data that show the economy is struggling two years after the recession ended.
The trade group of purchasing executives said its index for services companies fell to 52.7, from 53.3 in June. Any reading above 50 indicates expansion.
Separately, the Commerce Department said businesses cut orders for airplanes, autos and heavy machinery in June. Factory orders dropped 0.8 percent, the second drop in three months
Chevy Volt: Still Not Selling
• The Weekly Standard - Aug 3, 2011
The July sales numbers are out and the Chevy Volt continues to electrify (get it?) the country. GM sold … 125 Volts last month!
Obama Volt
Way back in March I made fun of the Volt for selling 281 units in February. Turns out, February was a good month. But wait, there’s more! GM says they’re going to increase production to 5,000 Volts per month in order to keep up with demand. You see, they claim that the reason the Volt isn’t selling is that they can’t keep enough cars on the lot. A GM spokeswoman recently claimed that they are “virtually sold out.” Which is virtually true. Mark Modica called around his local Chevy dealers and found plenty of Volts waiting for an environmentally conscious driver to bring them home.
When reality sucks, just lie.
The sad truth is that has truly become the modern acceptable form of dealing with the negative. At least that is the clear message our children are getting from society at all levels. Really sad.
I saw my first one while I was vacationing in Colorado a few weeks ago.
It was pulling into a gas station…
The need to get he price down. It’s way too expensive.
Just for fun, I checked the website of the Chevy dealer in my old stomping grounds in Carlsbad, CA (the volt still isn’t offered in my neck of the woods).
They have 1 in stock.
i wonder how much money the government is paying them to make them.
You see, they claim that the reason the Volt isn’t selling is that they can’t keep enough cars on the lot. A GM spokeswoman recently claimed that they are “virtually sold out.” Which is virtually true. Mark Modica called around his local Chevy dealers and found plenty of Volts waiting for an environmentally conscious driver to bring them home.
Here in Tucson, the Nissan Leaf offered a demo at one of our Fourth Avenue Street Fairs. While I know plenty of people who did the demo, I know of only one who said he wanted to buy one.
Did he actually make the purchase? I don’t know. Haven’t seen him for a while.
With the dealerships keeping the tax rebates, the car is not worth the price.
Here in Tucson, a study of local bicycling activity has turned up the following gem:
“The data does suggest the most important factor in getting people out of cars and into alternative modes is purely financial.”
Or, as my inner economist likes to say, “Incentives matter.”
It’s a 40k fricking car! And they’re surprised it’s not selling well?!
Hand em` out at the border with food stamps and make the Mexican drug cartel pay for it in return for all the free assault weapons they got.
Free cell phones are now a civil right
8:30 AM, August 1, 2011 ι Abby W. Schachter
Pennsylvanians on public assistance now have a new ‘civil right’ — free cell phones. Meanwhile, the rest of us get to pay higher cell bills as a result.
Recently, a federal government program called the Universal Service Fund came to the Keystone State and some residents are thrilled because it means they can enjoy 250 minutes a month and a handset for free, just because they don’t have the money to pay for it. Through Assurance Wireless and SafeLink from Tracfone Wireless these folks get to reach out and touch someone while the cost of their service is paid for by everyone else. You see, the telecommunications companies are funding the Universal Service Fund to the tune of $4 billion a year because the feds said they have to and in order to recoup their money, the companies turn around and hike their fees to paying customers. But those of use paying for the free service for the poor, should be happy about this infuriating situation, says Gary Carter, manager of national partnerships for Assurance, because “the program is about peace of mind.” Free cell service means “one less bill that someone has to pay, so they can pay their rent or for day care…it is a right to have peace of mind,” Cater explained.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/capitol/free_cell_phones_are_civil_right_htTMcKQFrjdvyl9A6NHPdP - 53k -
Jeff:
Here is the real question
Can you live your life with 1 phone with 128 minutes a month that rollover the unused minutes….or 250 minutes and you lose what you don’t use and start over at 250 the next month?
Those are the 2 plans….anything over that you have to pay for…I mean you want facts just google them.
Tried getting a job without a phone?
Walk in applicants are no longer welcome anywhere. And the few places they are, you still have to sit at their PC both and fill out an electronic form (or a regular paper form) so they can… call you back later.
I spent two hours with a mortgage broker trying to get inside info on what is happening. First, he told me not to buy as he expects another 20% drop in housing next year. Second, he told me that the banks are playing a new game here in CA. They are lowering principle on many house mortgages within a months time (toxic mortgages) and converting them to fixed rate 40-50 year mortgages at rates between 1-3%. The purpose is to not let houses go into foreclosure and reset neighborhood pricing for fear that others will do strategic defaults, get some income on the books, clear toxic loans so that they can be moved, all in hopes that the high priced RE market will return down the road.
It reminds me of Macy’s department store; keep the pricing high but always put it on sale to move it with the idea that later on you can return to your high baseline pricing. Same for the auto industry and sticker pricing that no one pays.
“They are lowering principle on many house mortgages within a months time (toxic mortgages) and converting them to fixed rate 40-50 year mortgages at rates between 1-3%.”
Are federal tax dollars funneled to lenders to spare their investors from the losses on these unrepayable mortgage debt balances?
$790m is a drop of pee in the ocean.
BofA joins feds’ plan that cuts home loans
Published: Wednesday, Aug. 3, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 6B
Bank of America has joined a mortgage principal-reduction program to help struggling California homeowners. BofA’s participation is a significant boost for the state-run Keep Your Home California program, which is funded with $2 billion in federal funds.
About $790 million is available for mortgage principal reduction – but only if the lender matches, dollar for dollar, what the state kicks in. BofA is the seventh and largest lender to participate in the principal-reduction portion of the program.
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Why is federal tax payer dollars being used to fund an individual state subsidy to reduce principal? 2 billion bucks? Government cheese for everyone!
$2B is 1 day of SS or DoD.
Yesterday I took my old dryer to the shop that repairs and sells refurbished appliances. The manager there told me that the newer units are only designed to last 5-10 years versus the older ones that lasted 20+ years. I bought it there used in August 2009 for $175, and yesterday for forty bucks had a new thermostat and fuse put in it while I waited. It was quite tempting to bite the bullet and go to Lowes and plop down $500+ for a new one. (I am glad too that my frugal ways from an economically challenging 2010 are still with me.)
The point being, across the board we see a reduction in quality of products with only marginal increases of price. So the perception is that we have only slight inflation although they are substituting cheaper ingredients/components in production of goods – a term I heard used was “value deflation.” Dryers, Twinkies, khakis, tools – everything sees a degradation in quality or size of portions. If you do want to buy something of comparable quality, the cost is exorbitant, and possibly a truer reflection of inflation.
New appliances are garbage. We’ve all heard the stories about the designer fridges with chinese compressors that break after 3-4 years.
We’re on our 3rd dishwasher in 10 years. The junk just falls apart.
Meanwhile our 25 year old Kenmore fridge in the garage just keeps working.
And what about us younger folks who weren’t around a while ago to buy these magical older appliances? Our only choice is between shoddy new and dicey Craigslist.
So much for the “invisble hand” of the free market. Everybody knows the stuff they sell now is garbage. So why doesn’t someone make good appliances with quality American parts? People would buy them.
Those 1980s Kenmores were da bomb! Still are, in fact.
We got a Miele vacuum (made in Germany). Brilliant design, quiet and I was promised that they would be using it to vacuum the floor at my wake. But expensive? Holy schneickies.
The manager there told me that the newer units are only designed to last 5-10 years versus the older ones that lasted 20+ years.”
yep a bunch of junk now filling up landfills
New ones dont last and the old ones use too much energy, now what?
MasterCard posts 33 percent profit increase
By EILEEN AJ CONNELLY The Associated Press
Posted: 8:41 a.m. Wednesday, Aug. 3, 2011
NEW YORK — U.S. shoppers kept on using their MasterCards in July even as uncertainty about the economy increased.
Spending with credit and debit cards bearing the company’s logo rose about 12 percent in the U.S. compared with July 2010, Chief Financial Officer Martina Hund-Mejean of Mastercard Inc. said Wednesday.
About 2 points of that increase came from gas prices, which averaged about $1 per gallon higher than a year ago. Inflation also played a part in higher clothing and food costs, and more expensive luxury items due to record prices for gold and silver, she said.
Other increases came from expanding fees and surcharges that airlines charge, and increased spending in restaurants and hotels, the CFO said during an interview.
Spending was slowing down at this time a year ago.
Still, there is an apparent split in the consumer base.
“We have two types of consumers in the United States,” Hund-Mejean said during a conference call to discuss the company’s second-quarter results. Those people who have a job and expect to keep it “feel that they can go out and do the spending that they need to do,” she said. “Then, on the other hand, you have the consumer who is not quite as well off, who is not able to do it like that.”
“U.S. shoppers kept on using their MasterCards in July even as uncertainty about the economy increased.
Most people I know who use credit cards do it for the rewards points only, be it 1% cash back for certain purchases (gas), or airline miles, or gift card rewards. Of course, you have to pay off your balance each month, but it seems a decent deal to use the card this way.
it seems a decent deal to use the card this way.
You should ask the people you know to think this all the way through.
How do the banks afford to give out those points? And still turn a big profit?
They’re taking a cut of the transaction. Every time someone uses a credit card, the bank is making MORE money than it pays out in any perks. That’s either coming from the merchant’s pocket, or from the pocket of the person making the purchase.
“Every time someone uses a credit card, the bank is making MORE money than it pays out in any perks. That’s either coming from the merchant’s pocket, or from the pocket of the person making the purchase.”
No doubt. Our mechanic automatically shaves 10% from the bill if you pay cash. I don’t think the CC companies get a 10% cut, but I like his approach. Still, years ago, my wife had built up so many Hilton rewards points on her card that when we went to Europe in ‘07, we stayed at 5-star Hiltons for free for a week. Seemed like a good deal at the time, though I take your point–it raises costs on all of us in the long run.
Many vendors don’t give you a discount for paying cash and in those cases, it is a better deal to pay with the CC and pay off the balance at the end of the month. I think there’s actually a clause in the agreement that says vendors can’t charge a different price for cash. I’m sure not everyone follows that, but I believe that’s why you never see a store with signs saying “automatic 3% discount for paying cash”.
it is a better deal to pay with the CC and pay off the balance at the end of the month
Short term? Sure. Long term? Well, prices will rise to account for people paying for credit cards.
Are you willing to do what’s in your best interest long-term even if you don’t benefit short term??
I use the cards for the points game. Lots of great websites out there helping you play along. my last card gave me 100k pts for $95 a year. That is two RT’s to Europe@!! Then the SPG card gets me free rooms!! YMMV.
The end of cheap goods.
http://www.economist.com/node/18805862
“IT IS the end of cheap goods,” says Bruce Rockowitz. He is the chief executive of Li & Fung, a company that sources more clothes and common household products from Asia than perhaps any other. In the low-tech areas in which Li & Fung specialises, the firm handles an estimated 4% of China’s exports to America and a sizeable chunk of its exports to Europe, too. It has operations in several East Asian countries, where it diligently searches for cheap, reliable suppliers of everything from handbags to bar stools. So when Mr Rockowitz says the era of low-cost Asian production is drawing to a close, people listen.
Nothing can replace the Chinese miracle. “There is no next,” says Mr Rockowitz. Prices will now start to rise by 5% or more each year, with no end in sight. And that may be optimistic. So far this year, Mr Rockowitz says, Li & Fung’s sourcing operation has seen price increases of 15% on average. Other sourcers of Asian toys, clothes and basic household products tell similarly ominous tales.
If we went back to the 10ish quality outfits in your closet w/2-4 pair of shoes, that probably wouldn’t bother me…….she said as she gazes down at her giant pile of running shoes. (Impish grin) We hardly need the cutesy chatchskies for the house.
It will be difficult to reverse the constant buying of new and reintroduce the skill of taking care of things and maintaining them to last. But I think it really boils down to expectations. If the entire world is downsizing expectations, they’ll be less suffering than when one is forced to do it on their own.
I look this as an opportunity to eventually bring back quality American workmanship as a desired feature of marketing and as a ways to restart our manufacturing and textile sectors.
There’s a very important line in this article:
All rely on the same increasingly expensive pool of commodities.
ding ding ding. It doesn’t matter if the corporations who make things move their slave labor down a tier, if you have no stuff for the slave labor to make things from. Apparently the race to the bottom will not end at the bottom; we’ll run out of raw material long before that.
Too bad the draconian cuts in federal spending negotiated by the Tea Party are likely to result in SLOWER GROWTH / BIGGER DEFICITS.
And it’s too bad John Boehner’s homespun insights from running his own small business don’t readily extend to the operation of the world’s largest economy.
But it’s all OK, as I’m sure the Republicans will easily convince the American voter that next year’s worsening economic slump is Obama’s fault.
Slower Growth Means Bigger Deficits
Categories: Government, Debt
10:32 am
August 3, 2011
by Jacob Goldstein
Of all the ways to bring down government deficits and make the national debt more manageable, economic growth is by far the most pleasant.
When GDP grows, companies and individuals make more money and pay more taxes. So more economic growth means lower deficits. Economic growth also means the existing national debt gets smaller relative to the overall economy.
But there’s a flip side to this: Slow economic growth — or, in very bad times, an economy that’s actually shrinking — makes deficits bigger and debt more difficult to deal with.
So the recent report that the U.S. economy is growing much more slowly than expected is bad news for the country’s long-term debt outlook.
The CBO — the non-partisan scorekeeper that Washington looks to for deficit projections — estimated that the U.S. economy will grow at a rate of 3.1 percent this year.
But the economy actually grew at an annual rate of less than 1 percent in the first half of this year, according to the GDP numbers released just a few days ago. Even if growth picks up in the second half, it’s very likely that economic growth for the full year will be significantly lower than CBO projected.
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I can’t wait to hear the Tea Party people try to blame a worsening economic downturn on Democrats, instead of taking personal responsibility for the economic impact of draconian federal spending cuts on which they insisted.
House GOP Freshmen Talk Loudly, Carry Big Sticks
by Scott Neuman
Rep. Trey Gowdy (C), R-SC, speaks as he and a group of freshmen Republican congressmen hold a news conference on the debt ceiling July 19 in front of the White House.
August 3, 2011
There’s one thing that freshman Republicans and the old-guard GOP leadership can agree on — the Class of 2010 fundamentally changed the focus of the debate over taxes and spending.
In a key test of their clout, the group of congressional newcomers largely stuck to their guns through tense negotiations, forcing a first-ever cap on discretionary spending and staving off tax increases.
“I cannot recall in my own experience or in my studies this ever happening before,” said Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University in Washington. “Such a group of backbenchers changing the debate in such a short amount of time is really incredible.”
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Drunken Ben Bernanke Tells Everyone At Neighborhood Bar How Screwed U.S. Economy Really Is
http://www.theonion.com/articles/drunken-ben-bernanke-tells-everyone-at-neighborhoo,21059/
I bet that’s what he tells to his close family members….
As many are often prone to point out, Americans got exactly the policy makers their votes put into office.
Debt-Ceiling Deal Does Little For Global Economic Ills
by Tom Gjelten
August 3, 2011
With the fight over the U.S. debt ceiling finally over, investors are free again to focus on all the economic challenges that lie ahead, but they are finding little reason to celebrate. Stock markets around the world fell sharply on Tuesday, skipping the “relief rally” that customarily follows the resolution of a crisis.
In the United States, signs of a serious economic slowdown had been building up, though with attention focused on the debt-ceiling debate, the news had apparently not yet sunk in.
The U.S. economy, as measured by gross domestic product, barely grew in the first two quarters, manufacturing slumped and consumer spending fell in June for the first time in nearly two years. The stalemate over the debt ceiling only aggravated what was already a bad situation.
“Our economy didn’t need Washington to come along with a manufactured crisis to make things worse,” said President Obama, commenting on the approval of a new debt ceiling. He offered little hope for a quick recovery.
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Right on time for the calls for QE3.
Except this time the Chinese might have something to say about that like another Dagong rating agency downgrade.
How much weight does that agency carry worldwide? Is it respected?
Let me see if I understand.
As we offshored our industrial base, we became more and more dependant on debt. We buy from China, they loan us the money back to maintain the peg between the Yuan and dollar, and so we can buy more of thier stuff. Then we buy more of their stuff with the money they loaned us, which they loan back to us again so we can again buy more of thier stuff…
Household: $1394.4B
Business: $1479.7B
Total HH+Bis: $2874.1B
CPI change 2.47x
Population change = 1.2
So. 2874.1 * 2.4 * 1.2 = $8277.4B IF debt had only increased at the sustainable level as determined by inflation and population growth.
Actual debt:
Household: 13386.2
Business: 10876.1
Total HH+Bis: 24262.3
So, if debt had only increased at the sustainable rate, we would have $8.3T of household and business debt, but we actually have $24.3T in business and household debt.
This does not even include government debt.
We are told by Republicans that if we raise taxes, or put controls in place to stop the wreckless growth of private sector debt, it will be a jobs killer. We are told by the Democrats that if cut spending, it will be a jobs killer. One thing all can agree on is that we can not keep running government deficits of our current size for long without either default and depression, or having the Fed try to print our way out causing terrible stagflation.
There are many arguments as to which is the best of the two bad solutions to our economic situation. Cut spending and just let the poor and middle classes plunge into depression while keeping the top 10% of the economy humming along a little longer, until the next collapse when the government won’t be able to do a TARP because there will be no one to pay for it. Or, perhaps we could crush the financial sector, the only sector of our econmy not in depression, to provide services for the poor and middle-classes, just a little longer.
Perhaps it is time to approach this from a different point of view. We are in a trade war with China, India and much of the world. China pegs its currency to ours, preventing currency exchange rates from adusting as needed to sloew the flow of improts from there into the US. They refuse to enforce international copyright laws. They are demanding software companies hire programmers and other tech workers in China, or they will not buy their software. My current company hires 2 people in China every time an American leaves the company, to help penetrate the Chinese market.
Perhaps it is time to launch our own trade war, and no, not as we have done so far, by just printing dollars out of thin air, to devalue them as we have done so far. Factory workers in China make $3 an hour and in the USA $15. Can we really afford $20 a gallon gas to finally break China’s will to maintain the peg, and adjust thier wages to be competative with ours? Really?
I think that we can not cut our way out, we can’t spend our way out, we can’t tax our way out, we can’t print our way out. We need another option that doesn’t involve either Fiscal or Monitary policies as those are both just using more debt. You can not fix a debt problem with more debt.
So, are we doomed? Are our best days behind us? Are we doomed to go the way of the Roman Empire or the European PIIGS? Spending did not help them, and now austarity is not helping them.
Perhaps, and I know this is going to sound like something out of the stone age, perhaps it is time to institute tarrifs based upon the average wage in foreign countries in relation to our own. So, with China’s $3 an hour compared to our $15, there would need to be a 500% tarrif on the price of the item.
Yes, this will cause the price of imports from China to skyrocket. However, it would also plug the trade deficit, bring industrial jobs back to the United States. Food and Energy prices would not have to inflate 500% as well, since we import less of that than consumer goods. Our standard of living would suffer, but that is inevitable. Tariffs would return us to a 1940-1960s style manufacturing economy where we have a hope of maintaining full employment without bubbles like junk bonds, DotCom and real estate. It would allow a long-term sustainable economy, not based on ever increasing debt.
China is running out of water…
As long as you don’t mind collapsing the following US markets. China probably won’t be buying those items from us much after seeing those tariffs imposed on their exports. So when you make the first step in a US-China trade war, these are the industries whose necks you’re putting on the line: (Warning: pdf)
soybean and cotton
http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/analysis/tradepol/graphs/exports_en.pdf
Electrical machinery and equipment
Power generation equipment
Oil seeds and oleaginous fruits
Aircraft and spacecraft
Optics and medical equipment
Plastics and articles thereof
Vehicles, excluding rail
Inorganic and organic chemicals
Pulp and paperboard
Copper
https://www.uschina.org/statistics/tradetable.html
Bring it on!
The question is: do they have alternate suppliers?
I suppose that they could buy airliners from Airbus, but I’m guessing they already do and if they do buy more they go to the back of the line I supoose.
As long as you don’t mind collapsing the following US markets. China probably won’t be buying those items from us much after seeing those tariffs imposed on their exports. So when you make the first step in a US-China trade war, these are the industries whose necks you’re putting on the line:
Brazil protects it’s market and does booming Business with China.
Just today:
Brazil moves to protect industries from foreign rivals
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14383554
Brazil’s President Dilma Rousseff has unveiled plans to help her country be more competitive.
The measures include tax breaks for Brazilian-made products and anti-dumping measures on cheaper imports mostly from China….
…Speaking at the unveiling of the plans, Finance Minister Guido Mantega said Brazil was operating on “a predatory, competitive world stage” and promised rigorous regulation of imports.
Good point Carrie Ann, but…
…what do we have and have had for the last 30 years? That’s right, millions of jobs being lost anyway and those that remain not keeping up with inflation.
Looking on the bright side, the debt ceiling deal has opened up a great opportunity for dips to buy.
Raising the Debt Ceiling
President Obama signed the debt deal — but that can’t fix the economy
Marketplace Morning Report, Wednesday, August 3, 2011
Deep spending cuts could hamper economic growth, and some analysts say the debt deal may actually spook investors, rather than reassure them
An exit sign for economic recovery
Bob Moon: So, the debt ceiling deal was signed by the president last night, averting a risk of self-imposed crisis. But may be like one of those heap umbrellas in a building storm. For one thing global markets are down across the board this morning, following a sharp drop in U.S. markets yesterday.
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Gov’t will borrow $72B in debt auctions next week
WASHINGTON (AP) — The government will borrow $72 billion in debt auctions next week now that Congress has raised the nation’s borrowing limit.
The Treasury Department says it will sell 3-year notes, 10-year notes and 30-year bonds to raise the money. About one-third will go to repay debts that are due on Aug. 15.
President Barack Obama cleared the way for the auction on Tuesday when he signed into a law a bill that raises the debt ceiling and promises more than $2 trillion in cuts to government spending over the next decade.
The U.S. government currently borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends.
“The U.S. government currently borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends.”
How the hell did we get into this mess?
“The U.S. government currently borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends.”
That’s how you can live large until you can’t borrow cheap money anymore
We spend more on military than the rest of the world combined, we promised everyone that if they work 40-45 years, we’ll give them a 20-30 year vacation. We have cut taxes repeatedly, and we are trying to prevent greater depression with unemployment and food stamps.
How did businesses and households get to 3x the debt we should have…. $24T.
“The U.S. government currently borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends.”
How the hell did we get into this mess?
When judged by changes in policy, 80% of the increased deficit is caused by:
1. Bush’s wars (ongoing cost)
2. Bush’s tax cuts for the rich (ongoing costs)
3. Other Bush policy changes
http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/92569/bush-obama-deficit-tax-cut-stimulus-health
Critics of President Obama never tire of blaming him for today’s high deficits. But if blame belongs with one president, it belongs with Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush. The chart above, … based upon figures from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, illustrates this point very clearly. But it’s worth reviewing the history here, because while it’s familiar to most of us who follow politics it doesn’t seem to get a lot of attention in the political debate.
One Reagan and 2 Bushes.
…is the correct answer.
What the heck happened to all the “job creation” promised by the hope&change administration?
ITEM: Unemployment rose in nearly all US cities
August 03, 2011
WASHINGTON (AP) – Unemployment rose in more than 90 percent of U.S. cities in June, mirroring a national slowdown in hiring.
The Labor Department says the unemployment rate rose in 345 large metro areas. It dropped in 20 cities and was unchanged in seven. That’s worse than May, when the rate rose in only 210 cities and a sharp reversal from April, when unemployment actually fell in nearly all metro areas.
The biggest increase was in Joplin, Mo, which was hit by a major tornado on May 22. The city lost 9,400 jobs in June and the unemployment rate jumped nearly 2 percentage points, to 9.6 percent.
Same thing that happened to all the job creation that Boehner, Tea & Co. promised when they were running for election.
So all the administration is left with as they prime us for QEIII is fear. The promise that we take on the risk of increased borrowing in an attempt to bring back jobs is already been played and the people now recognize it as a ruse.
It got hijacked by a Tea Party.
This is what happened:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68R40I20100928
Republicans block ending offshore jobs tax breaks | Reuters
Airlines May See $1.3B ‘Windfall’ in FAA Shutdown (Bloomberg)
Lost FAA taxes would amount to about $1.3 billion through Sept. 7, when Congress resumes legislative business, said Laura Brown, an agency spokeswoman.
U.S. airlines led by United Continental Holdings Inc. (UAL) may pocket $1.3 billion in higher fares tied to the Federal Aviation Administration’s partial shutdown as Congress deadlocks on the agency’s funding.
The FAA already has been unable to collect $28.6 million a day in aviation taxes since midnight on July 22. Missed receipts may climb by $1 billion more until lawmakers reconvene in September, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said yesterday.
The largest U.S. carriers, including United, Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) and Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV), stand to reap that much new revenue after raising fares to mirror the suspended taxes and keeping the difference, said Rick Seaney, chief executive officer of Dallas-based ticket researcher FareCompare.com.
“This is manna from heaven, and a real windfall for the airlines,” Seaney said in an interview. “I don’t expect them to drop the fare increases. Why would they? Total ticket prices are the same and it doesn’t seem to be hurting bookings.”
Congress was set to begin its August recess today without a new FAA funding bill. The expiration of tax-collecting authority last month halted a 7.5 percent sales tax on domestic tickets and a $3.70 fee for each flight segment. Similar, higher fees on international tickets also were suspended, and airlines started saving about 15 cents a gallon on jet fuel.
“We don’t know how long it’s going to last, and we can’t sit here with 100 percent conviction that the government won’t make the airlines repay this somehow,” said Hunter Keay, an analyst at Wolfe Trahan & Co. in New York. “All it takes is some law to be passed, an FAA recollection-type bill.”
Here in Tucson, there’s more than a little kvetching about the traffic down at our international airport. Seems that people just aren’t flying in and out of here the way they once were.
carney says no double dip…so it’s all good!
Neb. mine find to challenge China’s dominance of vital rare minerals
Elements coveted for high-tech uses. ~ Washington Times
Elk Creek, Neb. (population 112), may not be so tiny much longer. Reports suggest that the southeastern Nebraska hamlet may be sitting on the world’s largest untapped deposit of “rare earth” minerals, which have proved to be indispensable to a slew of high-tech and military applications such as laser pointers, stadium lighting, electric car batteries and sophisticated missile-guidance systems.
Canada-based Quantum Rare Earths Developments Corp. last week received preliminary results from test drilling in the area, showing “significant” proportions of “rare earth” minerals and niobium.
The only people more excited than Quantum? The residents of Elk Creek, where nearly one in seven people live under the poverty line, but whose economy has been booming ever since the company showed up late last year to start laying the groundwork for a possible mining bonanza.
“It’s been a very, very positive experience for our community,” said state Sen. Lavon Heidemann, an Elk Creek farmer. “When Quantum came in here, they put money in the local community. And any time you have money flowing in a small town, that’s a positive.”
Oh good, so we can get out of Afghanistan.
I’d wait and see. Mining companies are notorious liars.
Beaulieu will eliminate 125 jobs at Eufaula, Alabama plant.
~ The Eufaula Tribune.
Barbour County’s frail economy will soon take another jolt.
Beaulieu of America officials announced this week that the carpet manufacturer would eliminate 125 jobs in the Eufaula spun yarn facility by early October. Beaulieu currently employs 312 individuals at the Eufaula plant, which is located in the Eufaula Industrial Park. Most of those workers are from Barbour and Quitman counties.
“The carpet industry has been hit very hard in this recession and the industry demand for spun yarn has declined dramatically over the past few years,” Patricia Flavin, the senior vice president for marketing at Beaulieu, stated in an email to The Eufaula Tribune.
http://www.mediaroots.org/who-rules-america-breaking-down-the-top-1.php
great article.
The Grand Budget Compromise Cuts A Measly $21B From Next Year’s Budget Of $3.7 TRILLION - Congress Creates A Rube Goldberg Doomsday Machine
By Randy Wray, Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and Senior Scholar at the Levy Economics Institute of Bard College.
Source - EconoMonitor
Don’t you feel relieved? After weeks of threats, hostage-taking, and other forms of deficit terrorism, our two political parties have finally “compromised” on what was always a foregone conclusion.
Washington got what it wanted—a down payment on destruction of the last remnants of progressive policy. Soon, it will be 1929 all over again. We can make believe that the New Deal and Great Society programs never existed, and go back to the good old days when it was every “man” for himself.
Superficially, the spending cuts don’t look like much. The grand compromise cuts $21 billion next year from a budget of $3.7 trillion—sort of like foregoing one Big Mac from your annual food budget. In spite of all the talk about needing to take the medicine now, rather than kicking the “deficit crisis” down the road, Congress adopted a plan to kick that can right down the interstate.
It might make you wonder what the fuss was about.
All sides expressed their displeasure, as they held their noses and voted for the putrid heap of a plan. That is pure political theater, of course. Republicans fear a backlash from the fringe right that wanted immediate elimination of all social spending. Democrats fear a backlash from working Americans—the 70% or so who vehemently oppose any cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And so both sides say they hate the plan, but under the circumstances it was the best that could be secured.
And both sides agree that the looming fiscal crisis still looms. So they have created a Rube Goldberg machine to do what they know they cannot: the bill contains automatic triggers and across the board cuts that take effect if Congress cannot ram through cuts to so-called entitlements.
I do not want to go deeply into the details, but here is a quick summary. The bill contains $1 trillion in cuts, spread over coming years. It creates a bipartisan committee that is supposed to find another $1.5 trillion to cut by Thanksgiving; Congress must vote on the recommendations by Christmas. If all that fails, $1 trillion across the board cuts will take effect. In return the debt limit is raised by $400 billion now, and another $500 billion later. Congress can vote to stop the debt limit hikes, but the President can and will veto such a vote—letting Congressional weenies save face.
Finally, by New Year’s day Congress must vote to send a balanced budget amendment to the states; if they vote to do so, Obama can ask for a $1.5 trillion increase to the debt limit; otherwise he can ask for only $1.2 trillion. Congress gets to vote on that increase, too, but Obama gets to override that, too! (Don’t you love the way each milestone coincides with a national holiday?)
Are you still following? All of this is designed to allow Congress to shirk its job, of course—to build a Rube Goldberg machine to accomplish what our elected wieners (sorry, Anthony, you saw it coming) know would hurt them in the next election.
Here is the Beltway’s fantasy. The US government is running out of money. The main cause is the “entitlements”—all those deadbeats expecting hand-outs from Washington. Alan Simpson, co-chairman of the President’s previous deficit commission, put it this way: “We’ve reached a point now where it’s like a milk cow with 310 million tits! Call when you get honest work!”
I want to be clear. This is not a partisan position. Everyone in Washington accepts it—from the progressive think tanks to the nuttiest free marketeers; from the politicians to NPR’s reporters; from Pete Peterson’s hedge fund cronies to organized labor. All present a unified front against budget deficits—particularly those due to “infinite horizon” deficits that result from “entitlements”.
If we project Social Security benefit payments and payroll taxes through infinity, and subtract revenues from spending, we get a big deficit number. If we then project Medicare spending and tax revenues through infinity we get an even bigger number. Tens of Trillions of dollars.
And so we need that Rube Goldberg doomsday machine that cannot be stopped by human hand. It all kicks in automatically to slash entitlements because we know that neither voters nor their representatives will act to avert fiscal catastrophe that will sooner rather than later bankrupt the US government.
New Yorkers Fleeing State
BY NEWSCORE
ALBANY, N.Y. - Taxed-out New Yorkers are voting with their feet, with a staggering 1.6 million residents fleeing the state over the last decade.
For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.
The population loss is “the ultimate barometer of New York’s attractiveness as a place to work, live and do business,” the report’s co-author, E.J. McMahon, said. “It’s the ultimate indication that we’ve been doing things wrong.”
Most analysts blamed New York’s high taxes and skyrocketing cost of living for the mass exodus.
The Tax Foundation ranked New York highest in the nation in the combined state and local tax burden in 2008. And as small-business lobbyist Mike Durant noted, New York has also “consistently ranked worst or in the top three worst in business climate. You can’t suck every penny out of people and expect them to remain in New York.”
“For the second consecutive decade, New York led the nation in the percentage of residents leaving for other states, according to the report by the Empire Center for State Policy.”
That’s truly amazing! I had no idea that another state had a higher rate of exodus than California. Of course CA’s exit rate may be underestimated, due to the inability to fully capture outflows of illegal immigrants who went home when the real estate construction industry went bust. And this only holds on percentage terms, not absolute terms. And many who probably would rather leave California are trapped in underwater mortgages.
New York’s 50-year exodus
Posted on August 2, 2011 at 2:21 pm by Rick Karlin, Capitol bureau …
Overall, McMahon noted, out-migration actually hit a peak in the 1970s. During the last two decades New York had the highest out-migration in proportion to its size of all 50 states (California actually lost more people but with more than 37 million, it’s a lot larger than NY’s 19 million people).
View: Postal Service Needs Fewer Workers to Deliver
~ Bloomberg
Here are three remarkable facts about the United States Postal Service: Its union workers have no- layoff contracts; no post office branches can be closed solely because they lose money; and, as revealed in an investigation by Bloomberg Businessweek, the service is so dependent on low- profit junk mail for revenue that it has a marketing officer tasked with lobbying banks not to switch to electronic statements.
All of which leads to an unsurprising reality: The USPS lost $8 billion last year, and has been kept on life support with $15 billion from the Treasury. Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe warns that it could default on those loans in October.
The USPS, which is supposed to be self-financing, faces a dismal future. Total mail volume fell by 20 percent between 2006 and 2010, with the biggest drop-off in first-class mail, the most profitable type.
Donahoe has proposed shuttering 3,700 of the nearly 32,000 post offices across the U.S. and having mom-and-pop stores, pharmacies and possibly large retailers take over local postal services. This is a sensible plan — European agencies have done the same with great success — but it would save only about $200 million, a drop in the bucket. And even this timid step has lawmakers waxing nostalgic over the mail: Senator Susan Collins of Maine insists that closing branches “simply is not an option in many rural and remote areas.”
In the long run, closing branches doesn’t get to the root of the fiscal problem: Eighty percent of the USPS budget goes to salaries and benefits. By contrast, United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) spends 61 percent on those costs, and FedEx only 43 percent. Postal employees pay a smaller share of their salary for health care than most other federal workers, and, as reported by the Washington Post, more than 850 senior managers get their health care absolutely free.
Yet the USPS continues to plant the seeds of its own destruction. This year it reached a new contract with the union representing its mail clerks, drivers, mechanics and custodians that included a continuation of the no-layoffs clause for current workers, a 3.5 percent raise over 4 1/2 years, and regular cost of living increases. (The postal service claims that it was trying to avoid arbitration that might have resulted in an even more costly package, and it may have a point.)
The service’s management and unions are living in denial — both want the service to be freed from having to finance its health-care plan for retirees in advance to the tune of $5.5 billion a year. They also push a sketchy claim that the USPS has overpaid the Civil Service Retirement System by as much as $75 billion since the 1970s and deserves the money back from Congress.
…as revealed in an investigation by Bloomberg Businessweek, the service is so dependent on low- profit junk mail for revenue that it has a marketing officer tasked with lobbying banks not to switch to electronic statements.
My credit union made the switch to e-statements. Which means a login to the online banking panel to get ‘em as PDFs. No fuss, no muss.
Much easier than wrangling paper via the mail.
But Slim, now the onus is on YOU to remember to download/store/backup/etc this document.
When it comes in the mail, I don’t have to remember it; I just have to glance over it for errors and then file it away.
For the life of me I can’t understand how signing up to do more work, waste your own hard-drive space, need to do your own backups, etc is supposed to be to my benefit.
I certainly understand how it is to the financial institutions benefit, though! They save lots of money, but it comes at my expense.
Agreed
Really? You have email right? Wouldn’t the email notifying you that your e-statement is ready serve as a reminder? Then all you have to do is click on the link and go through your usual statement reviewing routine. Pretty simple. And you don’t have to store anything on your hard drive. Most banks keep your old statements as well. And if you bank with someone that doesn’t, a several page .pdf takes up very little space.
But e-statements do save the bank money so I agree you should get something for signing up. Lower/higher interest rate, waived fees, etc.
For the life of me I can’t understand how signing up to do more work, waste your own hard-drive space, need to do your own backups, etc is supposed to be to my benefit.
+1
15 homeless shelters at risk of closing
By VANESSA HO, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
A cut in federal funding to local social services has prompted one provider to say it will close all 15 of its indoor homeless shelters by next week if no other funds emerge. The closures would affect roughly 400 people.
The announcement came after King County was axed from a longtime source of federal funding for emergency shelter and feeding programs. Last year, the county received $1.2 million from the funds, which went to the YWCA, the Salvation Army, small food banks and other programs.
About $44,000 went to SHARE, the Seattle-based group that runs the 15 shelters. SHARE said the loss of funding meant it had run out of money for bus vouchers to ferry people to and from shelters.
Without the vouchers, the shelters – scattered throughout the county and housed mostly in churches – were useless, the group said.
“We don’t have any money. We have a week’s worth of bus tickets in hand. It’s a disaster for our organization and homeless people,” said Jarvis Capucion, a member of SHARE and its sister organization, WHEEL.
Capucion said the group was already struggling with a budget gap, and that the vouchers, the group’s biggest expense, are about $12,000 to $13,000 a month. He said the organization had been waiting months for the funding and didn’t learn until this week that it had dried up.
“SHARE said the loss of funding meant it had run out of money for bus vouchers to ferry people to and from shelters.”
“Without the vouchers, the shelters – scattered throughout the county and housed mostly in churches – were useless, the group said.”
Not true in the least. In Seattle, I have often seen homeless board the Metro bus, mumble an “I’m homeless” to the driver, and walk on by without paying a cent. I actually believe this is a good thing—homeless people need a way to get to where services are offered, whether or not they have any cash available for the ride.
But saying that not having bus vouchers available makes homeless services “useless” seems like a huge stretch.
Trying to ride the bus without a voucher or paying will land you in jail in most states.
Z Foods plant in Madera going out of business
Process starts with the layoffs of 200.
By Tim Sheehan / The Fresno Bee
Z Foods, a dried-fruit processor in Madera, is laying off about 200 of its seasonal workers this week as the company starts going out of business.
The layoffs and plant closure come after the company failed to find a buyer to take over the business, county employment officials said Monday.
In June, company officials said they were in talks with several potential buyers and had filed a layoff notice with the state Employment Development Department just as a precaution in case a sale did not go through. “If we don’t have a buyer, one option is to liquidate the company,” David Aquino, human resources manager for Z Foods, said at that time.
Aquino could not be reached Monday. In June, he told The Bee that the company employs about 100 people year-round, with the seasonal work force peaking at 400.
County officials said the Z Foods closure will immediately affect about 200 employees. “They are beginning the layoffs with sorters who are working at the plant now,” said Elaine Craig, executive director of the Madera County Workforce Assistance Center.
Craig said Workforce Assistance officials will visit the plant today and Thursday. They will explain to workers how to file unemployment claims and apply for other aid and services available to them, including help with job placement and referrals or worker retraining programs.
The company’s layoff notice to the state indicates 350 of the plant’s employees are general laborers. The rest are forklift drivers, supervisors, sales and support staff, maintenance workers and others, including managers.
Madera County is asking the state for more Dislocated Worker Fund money to help the surge of employees affected by the layoff. Because of budget cuts, Craig said, “we don’t have the money to deal with 400 more layoffs.”
The plant occupies about 30 acres on Road 291/2 southeast of Madera. It dries and processes cherries, apricots, peaches, plums, nectarines and others, primarily as ingredients for the baking and food-service industries.
A couple of real estate tidbits from Tucson:
Owner, charged with arson, selling Lost Barrio buildings - Story says, “In a text message to the Star on Tuesday, Gibson said he’s got his buildings up for sale because he has “a note” coming due on them next year. In interviews, however, one of Gibson’s current tenants and another Lost Barrio business owner said he probably needs money to pay his legal expenses in the pending arson case.” Methinks that he was deeply underwater on the property. In his mind, torching it was the way out from under the debt burden. And then he got caught.
Pima County foreclosure numbers drop again - But local rate of loan defaults remains high in national rankings - One story comment notes heavy buying by investors. But I think that a lot of those investors will fail to realize the appreciation that they’re hoping for. (There’s a lot of “You’d better buy before prices go up again!” rhetoric around here. And when you ask the rhetoricians what they think will drive any sort of house price increase, they’re at a loss for words. Because job growth and incomes sure aren’t going up in Tucson.)
I also predict that our latest crop of investors will find out that SFR landlording isn’t as much fun as they thought it would be.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=191279
Limbaugh finally gets it (starting to move past “Democrats Bad, Republicans Good” and realize they BOTH got us into this mess).
Limbaugh and the author of thei article may get it that government spending has been based on debt. They do not seem to be taking the next step that the economy as a whole is just as fake. Corporate profits are fake, based on people borrowing money they can’t pay back. Wall Street is fake, based on fake profit, and purchased on margin accounts with money that can’t be paid back if stocks fall to their real value. Creative financial securities just repackaging debt that can’t be repaid, to allow companies to book profit that will never be realized.
If anything, the private sector economy is far more fake than government.
We need to focus on one thing and one thing only… bringing back our industrial base. Plug the trad deficits, put Americans back to work making things, let stimulus stimulate our economy instead of China’s.
Darrell
I really like your last paragraph.
North America has the largest economy in the world.
We have given away about 14% of our industrial base and what have we gotten in return ?
A promise of access to a really big market !!!!
Do you think Corporate America would go along with a tariff wall around North America? I wish they would.
Darrell:
my solution…….give tax breaks based on the number of full time workers with benefits who work 2nd 3rd shift weekend and holidays….Prime time pricing
All your employees work 9-5 you pay top dollar…no tax breaks period.
No different then vacations resorts, block out dates… and even DJ’s Don’t ask me for a discount in June, but January i can dj your wedding for 1/2 price.
PS you notice very few heat related power outages happen at 4 AM..which is usually the Low point of power usage for the day
When I got marreid 4 years ago I got my choice of DJ with heavy discount…. I got marreid on 7-14-7. Everyone getting married that summer went with 7-7-7, so NO ONE was booked the week later.
Wow didn’t think of that, yes i was booked for a wedding on 7-7-7…. but a lesser paying yearly family reunion on the 14th..huge family i’ve known for years parents had 11 kids.
Baby steps, Darrell, baby steps.
One bit of good news is - Congress has gone home.
The bad news is Congressfolk have put us deeper in debt than ever.
One bit of good news is - Congress has gone home.
And I’ll bet that they’ll have some rollicking town halls with their constituents.
“The bad news is Congressfolk have put us deeper in debt than ever.”
And it’s going to be more difficult to service that debt as the boomer’s retirement wave get underway shrinking the GDP and the tax receipts. It’s not going to end well for those living in dependency.
Part 2 of Great Recession about to appear at a theater near you. There’s a double feature with David Lereah pulled out of mothballs to do peculiar stunts with Joshua Trees.
Oh just great. Now I need more popcorn. Can you loan me a Benjamin so I can buy the large tub?
Did someone create a company for the sole purpose of giving to a political action committee trying to boost Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign?
That’s what it looks like. As The Ticket reported earlier this week, three firms gave $1 million apiece to Restore Our Future, a conservative “super PAC” planning to spend millions to help Romney’s White House bid.
One of those companies was W. Spann LLC, a mysterious New York-based company that apparently closed up shop last month shortly after its contribution to the pro-Romney PAC. As NBC News’s Michael Isikoff reports, the company was formed in March by Boston estate tax lawyer Cameron Casey and listed a midtown Manhattan address where the landlord says there’s no record of the firm being a tenant.
The company gave $1 million to Restore Our Future on April 28, and according to records obtained by Isikoff, dissolved on July 12th, just two weeks before the pro-Romney PAC disclosed its donors to the Federal Election Commission. There’s no indication in the records of what the company did or who its owners or principals were.
How dare this author question the free speech of money.