August 24, 2011

Upside-Down Or Underwater, It Means Trouble

The Times Picayune reports on Louisiana. “The average price per square foot of homes in the New Orleans area fell 5 percent in the first half of this year, according to new data from the New Orleans Metropolitan Association of Realtors. All parishes except Orleans have entered their fourth year of declining prices, and any appreciation in home values after Hurricane Katrina has been erased. Mary Vastola, manager of the West Bank location for Coldwell Banker TEC Realtors, said the excess supply of homes is dizzying for buyers and makes it harder to close deals.”

“‘We have an oversupply of real estate inventory. There’s too much for the buyers to choose. They lowball the offer — and if you don’t take it, then they’ll move on to another house,’ she said.”

“Signs of distress are mounting in the New Orleans area real estate market. The collective financial shock of multiple disasters, the run-up and correction in real estate prices after Katrina and ongoing job losses are starting to manifest themselves, said Wade Ragas, president of the Metairie research firm Real Property Associates. ‘Foreclosures will become a bigger and bigger story over the next few years,’ Ragas said. ‘Could we get into a mess with a lot more foreclosed assets? Yeah.’”

First Arkansas News. “The numbers from northwest Arkansas are in and they show that sales in July this year were up considerably over those in the same month a year ago. ‘The good news is that year over year and for the month of July the number of homes sold in the region has increased significantly,’ said Eric Harris, a Realtor with Weichert Realtors - Downum Group in Springdale. ‘Bad for sellers and great for buyers is the sale price per square foot which dipped below $70 in the month of July 2011. Price wise it is definitely a buyer’s market and a great time to buy a new home. With mortgage rates still at great rates, real estate is definitely on sale.’”

The Star Telegram in Texas. “The Mortgage Bankers Association reported that the number of Texans falling behind on their mortgage payments rose 5.2 percent at the end of the end of the second quarter, indicating that more problems may be ahead. ‘Upside-down postings have surged 34 percent over the past year, with 28 percent of the homes posted so far this year involving homes in this no-win situation,’ said George Roddy Sr., president of the Foreclosure Listing Service. ‘Whether you call it upside-down or underwater, it means the same thing — trouble.’”

“Of the homes posted so far this year for foreclosure, Roddy found that 4,210 homeowners in Tarrant County were upside-down on their mortgages, a 44 percent increase from 2010. Statewide, the delinquency rate for residential mortgage loans in Texas was 8.43 percent in the second quarter, slightly higher than the national rate of 8.11 percent.”

The American Statesman in Texas. “Foreclosure listings have dropped to their lowest quarterly level in 2½ years in Central Texas. Postings have dropped because ‘the foreclosure process is in chaos,’ said Peter Sajovich, a local real estate broker.”

“Lenders increasingly are opting for short sales, in which they agree to accept less for a property than the balance owed , ‘while the legal process tries to come up with an equitable solution’ for so-called robo signing, in which lenders were foreclosing on owners without having proper documentation , Sajovich said.”

“‘By the time lenders actually get around to selling the properties, there is very little or no equity left,’ Sajovich said.”

The Express News in Texas. “Bexar County foreclosure postings took a dip this summer. ‘Foreclosure numbers are down everywhere because of the procedural stuff with institutions,’ said James Gaines, research economist with the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M. ‘We expect a splurge at some point.’”

“So far this year, 11,328 properties have been posted for foreclosure, compared with 12,641 for the same three quarters in 2010.”

Laurin Darnell, division president for Centex in San Antonio, said the biggest hurdle in the market now isn’t finding willing buyers — it’s getting them qualified for a mortgage loan. ‘Now the challenge these days tends to be getting people qualified for the loan,’ Darnell said. ‘Everyone is much more risk-averse.’”

“Gay Guilott, president of Guilott Realty, said Bandera County is feeling the effects of the drought, particularly when it comes to waterfront properties. Guilott said buyers of both single-family homes and rural property have the ability to be particular. ‘The buyers are still out there but slow to make decisions because they want the best deal,’ Guilott said.”

“The home-building market remains slower than it was a few years ago, with most of the activity for customers who want a custom home on a particular lot or piece of property. ‘It’s mainly custom jobs,’ she said. ‘The spec builders have really slowed down.’”

The Seguin Gazette in Texas. “While the national housing market is dragging, locals say the picture in Seguin is a bit brighter. Gloria Elder, a broker associate with Karen McMillan Realtors, said Seguin area’s housing market, particularly for new and lower-priced homes, is strong. ‘I don’t think we’ve ever been where the national market is, not in Texas and certainly not in this area,’ she said. ‘Our economy is good and our outlook is even better.’”

“In Seguin, a local custom builder said that business for his family’s company has slowed, but lower-priced homes seem to be selling quickly. ‘Usually, we’d have 10 to 12 houses being built and right now we have three,’ said Manuel Moreno III, construction manager at Moreno Construction.”

The Lufkin Daily News in Texas. “At least half of all households in Angelina County are not worried about how they will pay the house note next month, for one simple reason: They don’t have one. Robert Telford, president of The Advanced Financial Group in Lufkin, said he was not surprised by the numbers of paid-off homes here, considering the financial situation of most of his firm’s clients.”

“‘If they’re 55, generally speaking, they may not have paid it off,’ he said. ‘But between 60 and 65, most of the people we deal with — the majority, by far — do not owe anything on their house. That’s been part of their game plan; they’ve been paying on it for 25 or 30 years.’”

“Joe Pase and his wife, Nancy, paid off a home in Southeast Lufkin in 2002, two years after building it and moving into it, largely using funds from the sale of their previous (and also paid-for) home. ‘My wife and I, thankfully, are completely debt-free,’ Pase said. ‘This has been our philosophy for the 35 years we have been married. Except for home mortgages, we have had no other debt. The 30-year loan on our first home was paid off in 15 years.’”

“When you drill down into the new Census data, some other interesting statistics stand out. For starters, one in five housing units in the county were vacant in 2010. Across Texas, there are 77,853 more vacant housing units than there were in 2000 — an increase of 38.4 percent. Jim Gaines, the housing expert at the Texas Real Estate Center, said the number of ‘other vacant’ units has doubled nationally over the last three years. Many homes may still have people living in them, but are in the process of going through foreclosures. That’s a concern, Gaines said.”

“‘That’s the ‘shadow inventory’ that kind of hovers over our economy right now,’ he said. ‘We don’t know how to react to it.’”

The Oklahoman. “with mortgage interest rates drilling even lower into the historical record, anyone who hasn’t yet refinanced a loan, and can, surely will, lenders said. Mortgage banker Scott Senner of Edmond’s First Commercial Bank welcomed the coverage — as an antidote to what he called negative and inaccurate national news stories that are unnecessarily spooking people.”

“‘Even some of my own past customers have been poisoned by the national stories telling them that qualifying is super hard and they need tons of equity to do anything,’ Senner said. ‘While it is true that mortgage lenders have tightened up on credit requirements over the last few years, the minimum credit score required to qualify for a home loan is still only 620.’”

“‘The minimum amount of money required for a down payment on FHA (Federal Housing Administration-backed loans), the most popular type of financing in Oklahoma, is still only 3.5 percent of the purchase price. In addition to that, there is still plenty of first-time homebuyer bond money available which enables qualified buyers the opportunity to buy with no money down. Veterans Administration loans are also available to active-duty, reserve-duty and retired veterans with no money down,’ he said.”

“‘Some national stories would have would-be homebuyers believe that 20 percent down and perfect credit is required to buy a home; those stories are completely untrue.’”




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18 Comments »

Comment by Awaiting
2011-08-24 07:24:17

I read that the new ratio of short sale to foreclosure is 3:1 in favor of a short sale.
Great deal for the banks:
no foreclosure costs
no auction hassle
no property tax transfer of liability
house isn’t vacant
house is somewhat taken care of

Leave the problems to the buyer and their agent. What’s not to like!

Comment by rusty
2011-08-24 08:25:15

We left our pre-foreclosed rental and didn’t bother to mow the yard the last 3 weeks we were there. In the Florida rainy season you can go from ‘mowed’ to ‘jungle’ in a short amount of time. Recently noticed that the house is still vacant but somebody mowed the yard. We figure that the neighbors pitched in since the bank doesn’t own it until Sept 1.

We had called the bank let them know we were there and interested in a short-sale or renting. They blew us off, so we decided to get out while the getting is good. That pool will be green in about 2 weeks flat.

They might eventually short sell it to somebody, but it will be empty for a while in the meantime.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-24 08:44:39

We had called the bank let them know we were there and interested in a short-sale or renting. They blew us off, so we decided to get out while the getting is good. That pool will be green in about 2 weeks flat.

So much for all of that “talent” in the banking industry.

Here I am, a graphic designer and photographer who’s never worked day in that industry. But, for some strange reason, I know that in a declining market, your first offer is your best offer. And it’s better than no offer. So, take it!

 
Comment by Awaiting
2011-08-24 08:59:49

rusty
Nice to hear you stood your ground and terms. The banks are narcissistic. Screw them.

In today’s Bits Bucket
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wmbz-Great find. Thank you.

 
 
Comment by ncinerate
2011-08-24 10:03:20

I don’t know if things changed since I was looking at homes several months back, but we wrote short-sales off COMPLETELY because they never actually completed.

They flooded the marketplace, to be sure, but you’d look and offer and sit and sit and sit and sit and nothing would happen. Many homes also had second and even third mortgages on them, making it almost impossible to short sale (not that it didn’t stop people from trying).

Almost every single one ended up in foreclosure eventually. Hell, the house I bought was one of the first places I looked at -as a short sale-. A year later it was foreclosed and finally actually possible to buy it (for 40,000$ less).

Comment by Awaiting
2011-08-24 10:37:45

ncinerate
Thanks for the confirmation that SS are a pita. One we followed had 3 buyers, and the third one stuck and closed after 6 freakin months. You’re right about the multiple loans.
We downright refuse to look at SS’s, too.
In Ca (where we live) there are new SS beyond first loan laws, but I’m from the firm belief, if there is a loophole, moneybags will find it.
Hope you new home brings you wonderful memories.

Oh, and here’s another thought. Factored into the SS price is someone elses bad timing on the purchase or let’s buy stuff money. We refuse to pay for someone else’s bad decision or stuff.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2011-08-24 07:49:08

Here’s what is often missed about the Texas bubble:

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/residential-real-estate/20110822-d-fw-home-foreclosure-filings-fall-19.ece

‘Foreclosure filings for September are down 19 percent from a year ago, the seventh month in a row that foreclosure postings in the Dallas-Fort Worth area have fallen year-over-year. ‘For the first time in 11 years, year-to-date residential postings declined,’ said George Roddy, president of the Addison-based foreclosure tracking firm.’

For 11 years foreclosures rose. Long time readers will recall that even back in 2005, the number of DFW foreclosures was higher than during the S&L bust.

‘For next month’s foreclosure auctions, lenders have scheduled 4,774 homes for forced sale.’

That’s a lot of houses.

Comment by Steve J
2011-08-24 11:46:05

Its not a lot of foreclosures. The population of DFW is 4.5+ million.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-08-24 08:36:29

“With mortgage interest rates drilling even lower into the historical record, anyone who hasn’t yet refinanced a loan, and can, surely will, lenders said.”

Is that why interest rates will be set at zero for two years? To make sure all the FBs who aren’t hopeless can refinance out of their ARMs and option-ARMS?

Remember that Credit Suisse Chart? Most of the bubble era loans will have reset by 18 months from now.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/ShQKBEyAORI/AAAAAAAAFTM/03RNGrH9sEA/s1600-h/CreditSuisseResetMarch09.jpg

I wonder if some of these idiots are sticking with ARMs with rates at all time lows, to reduce their monthly payment?

 
Comment by Montana
2011-08-24 08:49:33

“‘Even some of my own past customers have been poisoned by the national stories telling them that qualifying is super hard and they need tons of equity to do anything,’

Oh I don’t get this - need equity to buy a house? you don’t have equity until you buy with a big down or paid awhile, right? or equity from a prior house? :confused:

 
Comment by BetterRenter
2011-08-24 11:29:20

“‘We have an oversupply of real estate inventory. There’s too much for the buyers to choose. They lowball the offer — and if you don’t take it, then they’ll move on to another house,’ [Mary Vastola, manager of the West Bank location for Coldwell Banker TEC Realtors] said.”

Tsk tsk, too bad. It’s a market, folks. We had to endure the forces of too much demand during the bubble’s swelling, and now we have to endure the same forces of too much supply AND too little demand during the bubble’s collapse. During the swelling, no one talked about compensating people for either overpaying for housing or being forced to rent while being priced out.

These mortgage renegotiations are just cheating. I’m so glad that I bought into the low with cash, and that I will never, ever have to buy a residence again. I lived in expensive urban areas, or in depressed but still property-inflated areas, for half of my working life. I was forced to rent during all of that. Now that I’ve gotten out of that poverty-ensuring machinery, I’m so glad to watch it all crash and burn, creating a lot of suffering amongst the middle class… the same middle class that even today refuses to see me as an equal, and that was never happy living near me, and always seems to try to get in front of my used cars on the road.

Comment by Awaiting
2011-08-24 18:01:09

BetterRenter
Boy, do I hear you and like you. We went from a rather upscale home/community to renters ourselves. (Regular sale a long time ago.)We’re paying cash for a modest “toe tag” home if we ever find it. Nice to hear you travel to the beat of your drum like we do. Can’t wait to actually OWN our domicile and grow old and wise in it. btw, we’re allegic to debt, too.

Comment by AV0CADO
2011-08-25 09:34:29

I went from a nice home to renting as well. Sure did free up a lot of my time! ;)

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-08-24 11:58:08

“‘We have an oversupply of real estate inventory. There’s too much for the buyers to choose. They lowball the offer — and if you don’t take it, then they’ll move on to another house,’ she said.”

And it seems like just yesterday that buyers had to write sellers letters pleading with them to sell them their house with no inspections and also promising to take care of the squirrels…

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-08-24 12:24:01

Donut bubble popping in Greece…

——————-

Greek Police Smash Violent Doughnut Ring
http://www.foxnews.com | Published August 23, 2011 | Staff

THESSALONIKI – It took an undercover operation, but Greek police have blown a hole in a ring of alleged crooks who had cornered the doughnut market in a beach resort.

It started with complaints that two Bulgarian men and a former Greek wrestling champion were using violence to choke off the trade by other doughnut vendors on Paliouri beach in the Halkidiki peninsula near Thessaloniki.

So an undercover officer posed as a doughnut seller, police said Tuesday, and he was attacked, leading to the arrest of the three aggressive doughnut sellers.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-08-24 13:00:38

“‘By the time lenders actually get around to selling the properties, there is very little or no equity left,’ Sajovich said.”

That’s why it’s a good idea to sell as soon as possible in a falling-price market with an overhang of millions of shadow inventory homes.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-08-24 15:49:47

‘The minimum amount of money required for a down payment on FHA (Federal Housing Administration-backed loans), the most popular type of financing in Oklahoma, is still only 3.5 percent of the purchase price. In addition to that, there is still plenty of first-time homebuyer bond money available which enables qualified buyers the opportunity to buy with no money down.’

Great to hear that government sponsored high-risk lending practices are alive and well in Oklahoma.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2011-08-24 15:52:59

“…the number of ‘other vacant’ units has doubled nationally over the last three years. Many homes may still have people living in them, but are in the process of going through foreclosures.”

Let me get this straight: Homes with people living in them are counted in ‘other vacant’ units? That doesn’t meet the common sense definition of ‘vacant,’ does it?

 
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