August 28, 2011

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 01:00:11

Families in modern Ireland skip food to pay the mortgage
70pc support debt forgiveness as Morgan Kelly shows how it can work
By RONALD QUINLAN and JODY CORCORAN
Sunday August 28 2011

FAMILIES in modern Ireland are going without food to meet the demand of mortgage debt.

The arrival of the second wave of the economic crisis, giving rise for the first time in many decades to the spectre of hunger, has caused shock across the country.

The decision of homeowners to choose hunger over a fear of eviction helps expose as irrelevant the issue of “moral hazard”, the defence of policymakers who resist calls for debt forgiveness.

Comment by combotechie
2011-08-28 05:34:51

No dollar (or whatever the currency) shall be allowed to escape.

2011-08-28 06:44:02

Better that they families starve than the taxpayers bail out the banks.

Oh and yeah, this is definitely “inflationary” - LOL.

BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 
 
2011-08-28 06:53:58

The Irish do hunger like no others.

Does “mortgage” spell anywhere near “potato”?

This is a freakin’ goldmine!

BWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-08-28 08:30:14

Must we tolerate this blight?

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-08-28 09:02:59

I worked with a group of around 100 young Irish men and women 15 years ago, or so. Not one of them was overweight. Also, the women were very leery of American men.

 
 
Comment by SV guy
2011-08-28 07:46:24

Tell me when they skip drinking. Then we know it’s serious.

2011-08-28 07:52:22

That’s so good, it’s criminal.

That should’ve been mine, damnit!!! :P

Comment by SV guy
2011-08-28 11:12:11

Even a blind squirrel gets an acorn every now and then.

:)

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-28 09:16:06

I wonder how many will flee the country to escape the recourse loans. Is it good enough to flee to another EU country, or can the banksters come after them there as well? Maybe a move to Oz or Kiwiland?

2011-08-28 09:18:57

If I were Irish, I’d just advise them to get the heck out of there.

Ireland will go back to its traditional role in the global economy - exporting its citizens.

Comment by frankie
2011-08-28 13:43:40

It already has

“Ireland, formerly one of the star economies of the EU, is now facing an emigration crisis of historic proportions, according to a new report.”

http://www.workpermit.com/news/2011-01-24/ireland/irish-emigration-at-record-high.htm

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 01:01:55

GOSSIP EXTRA
Ex-teen heartthrob in tug-of-war with bankers
By Jose Lambiet
gossipink@aol.com

Chances are ex-teen heartthrob David Cassidy won’t sing I Think I Love You to BankUnited bigs any time soon!

The star of The Partridge Family and the Miami Lakes bankers are entangled in a tug-of-war over a $1.35 million-condo that Cassidy bought in Fort Lauderdale in 2005.

BankUnited drew first blood by filing a foreclosure action against Cassidy when he stopped making payment on its $900,000-exotic mortgage.

“It’s a strategic default,” says Cassidy’s lawyer, Jeff Harrington. “It just so happens that Mr. Cassidy is not your typical client.”

And Cassidy’s fighting back. He’s counter-suing for fraud. Bank officials declined comment. In their court action, they claim Cassidy now owes $916,488.62.

Cassidy listed the 34th floor condo at the Las Olas River House for $1.1 million.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/08/2349735/ex-teen-heartthrob-in-tug-of-war.html#ixzz1WJBttAAZ

Comment by timmy
2011-08-28 05:38:51

Wasn’t he in some Vegas show recently? I forget.. it was either there or some off-Broadway show in NYC… I remember seeing the posterboards on taxis & other places.

I guess the show’s over??

Stop whining. Get a job. Pay your mortgage. Or… send back the keys.

So simple.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 07:02:49

I remember Cassidy had a Vegas show too, but I don’t think it lasted long. Wiki says that Cassidy has been performing on and off and in and out of Vegas for at least a decade. Meanwhile, if Cassidy is simply walking, then why all the fuss?

http://www.loansafe.org/forum/foreclosure-laws/4130-recourse-v-non-recourse-states.html

Anti-Deficiency / Non-Recourse States
Alaska
Arizona
California
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Minnesota
North Carolina
North Dakota
Texas
Utah
Washington

One Action States
In some states, lenders are only permitted a single lawsuit to collect mortgage debt. This plays out differently depending on the state’s laws. In New York, for example, a lender must choose between the actions of foreclosing on the property or suing to collect the debt. The following states have some type of one action statute:

California
Idaho
Montana
Nevada
New York
Utah
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What fraud is Cassidy suing for? MERS/robosign-related? I don’t see how the Cassidy name is going to help him, except to provide a high-profile case of jingle mail. Meanwhile, I think Cassidy should just walk from the condo, finish up his lawsuits with Sony and the banks, do a few more shows until he finally loses the last of his appeal, and hope he comes out about a half-million ahead. Then he can go on Oil City plan, like the rest of mere mortals.

2011-08-28 07:32:23

Oil-City plan!!!

Awesome.

This blog just keeps getting better and better.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 10:55:20

Somebody needs to make sure “Oil City Plan” gets put in the Urban Dictionary/Wikipedia, with correct attributuion.

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Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 11:07:13

That would be ByeFl. The basic concept has been around for millenia, cf Of Mice and Men.

 
2011-08-28 12:00:18

The “concept” of King Lear has been around for millenia too.

Ungrateful children? Seriously, you don’t say!

Took Shakespeare to raise it to its iconic status.

 
Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:01:49

Oil City Plan I don’t know what that means but if I had to guess its somthing like “Road Warrior” ?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 15:23:37

Some time ago on HBB there was a poster named ByeFl — lived in Florida, was saving up money, and couldn’t wait to move to Oil City, Pennsylvania, where housing and taxes were cheap. Why Oil City, we don’t know.

This evolved into the Oil City Plan. Instead of working a stressful job in a metropolitan area and commuting to a house you can barely afford the mortgage on, why not rent and save up. In a few years you could buy a house outright in the sticks for $70K or so. If you have a lot of cash saved up, you could live off the money, or work out of your home. If you needed to, you could work a McJob to pay the daily bills. You could even afford a half-acre and homestead. Since there are McJobs and cheap housing almost everywhere, you could choose where you want to live.

The Oil City Plan is an illustration of just how high housing costs are comparison to other expenses. Especially in 2006-2007, housing cost so much that you would be financially better off in a paid-off house working a McJob, than you would be in a mortgaged McMansion with a $100K job. If the coming decade sees the survival of Social Security and perhaps Public Option health care, it becomes even more viable.

I often bring up the Oil City plan when I read embarassing stories of celebrities investing badly and going through very public bankrupties and foreclosures, like David Cassidy or Nicholas Cage or any number of pro athletes. Those guys could have reserved a half-mil emergency fund, and used the rest to live it up and gamble. If they lost it all, they could tap into the emergency fund and disappear into any old house in Oil City-ish podunk and live off the interest.

 
Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 20:22:22

OK I think I remember that guy

oil city plan I think that backfired on a lot of ex california equity hundred thousandaires who over bought in places like Phoenix and Texas and now they are stuck, can’t sell can’t move back, all equity lost in the epic bust which seemed to be worse in oil cities than costal CA.

I would urge anyone on the oil city plan to rent for awhile in your oil city. Phoenix was my oil city plan and going back to being a test technician was pure tourture, less stressful but pure torture. I never saw a clock move so slow as being a completely bored RF test tech at RFMD design center in phoenix. The best thing about it was all the cactus I could buy with all the free time I had since I only worked 45 hours a week.

I made a bet with my ex-boss in Phoenix that AZ would crash harder than costal CA even though costal CA was 2X higher in price ( now 3X higher )

He never paid up it was a soda oh well. it has to do with over building and the extreme wealth in costal CA.

I still think a slow crash is under way here on the coast though very sloooowwww

 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2011-08-28 07:44:59

Anti-Deficiency / Non-Recourse States ??

In California, its only on “purchase money” owner occupied 1-4 units…If you refi, or take a 2nd after origination of the purchase money loan, then recourse is available to the lender…Thats my understanding of the law…

 
Comment by CrackerJim
2011-08-28 07:52:53

Anti-Deficiency / Non-Recourse States

I do not believe Florida is non-recourse. Please check sources for accuracy.

Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 08:44:49

OK, let’s try another source:

http://www.forecloseddreams.com/recourse_states

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Non-Recourse States
■Alaska (AK)
■Arizona (AZ)
■California (CA)
■ Connecticut (CT)
■Idaho (ID)
■Minnesota (MN)
■ North Carolina (NC)
■North Dakota (ND)
■Oregon (OR)
■Texas (TX)
■Utah (UT)
■Washington State (WA)

Hmmm, no Florida.

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Here’s HelocBasics, which was re-posted by ABC News:

“According to Helocbasics.com, non-recourse states — or states where borrowers are not held personally liable for more than the home’s actual value — include the following:

Alaska
Arizona
California
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Minnesota
North Carolina
North Dakota
Texas
Utah
Washington”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/gma/2010/02/your-mortgage-nonrecourse-states.html

Here’s wiki answers:

Non-recourse states cannot pursue you for their financial losses:

Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
District of Columbia (Washington DC)
Georgia [THIS IS INCORRECT. GEORGIA IS A RECOURSE STATE]
Hawaii
Idaho
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana (if non-judicial foreclosure is used)
Nevada - (lender can get a deficiency judgment)
New Hampshire
Oregon
Tennessee
Texas (lender can get a deficiency judgment)
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_states_are_non-recourse_states_for_mortgage_debt#ixzz1WL3mcnjG

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I give up.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 07:39:39

I doubt these busy software engineers, who believe they some how are going to make bundles of money “investing” in $950,000 cookie-cutter style tract homes in Carmel Valley, are aware of the upcoming reduction in the conforming loan limit. As a result, the amount of Main Street American tax dollars that federally guarantee the value of these foreign expatriate real estate investors’ Jumbo mortgages will be limited to $625,500. Perhaps this is no big deal, so long as the Fed keeps ZIRP alive.

Hot and cold zones of San Diego real estate
Here’s the Union-Tribune’s half-year report home prices, sales
By Lily Leung, Reporter - Real estate
Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 6 a.m.

San Diego software engineer Paul Xu and his wife, Yaling, are expecting in December, so they’re scouting for something newer and bigger than their circa-1990s home in Mira Mesa to fit a growing family and Xu’s parents.

“We need more bedrooms,” said Xu, 36, as he walked through model homes starting in the $600,000s on a recent Sunday with his father, Min, and two family friends. “We’re also looking for good school districts … and good neighbors.”

The first area that came to Xu’s mind was Carmel Valley, a North County coastal community that draws both high-paid tech workers and move-up buyers, especially families, with its community playgrounds, block parties and environmentally friendly homes. It’s also among the few areas in San Diego County where housing prices have risen, remained relatively stable or declined slightly this year, shows a Union-Tribune analysis of sales and prices that compares half-year numbers in 2011, from January to June, to the same period in 2010.

Looking at the whole county and all housing types, sales fell 8.4 percent, from 19,099 to 17,490, while the median price dipped in 63 of 93 ZIP codes, with regional drops from 1.8 to 7.7 percent. One thing to keep in mind: 2011’s first half is being pitted against the first half of 2010, when homebuyer tax credits drove sales.

Still, among the areas that bucked the trend of declines during this year’s first half were north coastal areas such as Carmel Valley, where the median price for a single family home rose to $950,000, or 5.9 percent from 2010’s first half. The area’s new home sales also increased, from 76 to 86, or 13.2 percent.

“It’s a good community and it’s close to the coast,” said Ashish Sagar, a 43-year-old software engineer who browsed new homes at a Pardee development in Carmel Valley on a recent weekend. “I’ve been renting forever … This will be an investment.

2011-08-28 07:59:06

My sister who works in Silicon Valley told me yesterday that most of her co-workers have “doubled down” on investment properties.

She sits and giggles internally.

The CA bust is gonna be epic!

Comment by scdave
2011-08-28 08:15:18

have “doubled down” on investment properties ??

What type of property are you suggesting ??

2011-08-28 08:23:22

Dunno - would have to ask her. It all just sounded very entertaining - double income, two kids, stretched beyond means, underwater yet buying an “investment” on leveraged loans.

What could possibly go wrong, eh?

Her good friend is now going through a divorce after her husband “advised” her to buy a house together. It was all HER hard-earned money. Poof, all gone, as combie, would tell you.

Even gold can’t buy entertainment like this, baby!

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Comment by scdave
2011-08-28 08:57:05

Dunno ??

She must be suggesting single family homes…Some area’s are back to the “White Hot” days of 2006 + -….What it appears to be is the Google, Facebook, Apple effect along with a lot of others…

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-08-28 09:06:04

The sheep are buying all the way down…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-28 13:44:49

It’s GOOD to be the Banksta!

 
Comment by frankie
2011-08-28 13:49:58

And the bears will eat them one by one. Mint sauce anyone?

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 08:23:14

I guess I should be happy for the federal guarantee which encourages greater fools to overpay for coastal California housing. When the Tea Party puts their foot down on the practice of forcing Texas tax payers to fund foreign national software engineers million-dollar home purchases, and California housing prices roll back to reflect it, California’s economy will benefit for years to come from their indentured servitude.

Comment by SUGuy
2011-08-28 08:46:24

The will definitely rattle the tea cups.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-28 09:18:47

“national software engineers million-dollar home purchases”

How can they afford it? The salaries aren’t that good. Unless they’re makinga killing in stock options?

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2011-08-28 09:21:27

Trust my sister, they’re not! We discuss this all the time.

You’d be surprised how naked they are. It’s not very far from now when the sea goes out.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-28 13:48:33

The biggest problem with Silly Valley is that there is NOTHING affordable for the average person within 50 miles.

It’s like Aspen or Vale. Even “overpaid” firefighters and cops can’t afford to live anywhere nearby.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:28:46

“The CA bust is gonna be epic.”

You speak as though the worst is yet to come. Here I thought the market was about to recover. Do you have specifics as to when and where this ‘epic bust’ will play out?

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 11:05:46

I’ve got a theory…..

The only thing that provides enough income to support the typical Californian’s cash-burn/lifestyle is house flipping. Hence, all of the mouth-to-mouth/CPR/multiple uses of the defibrillator on the housing market out there.

Also…..note that most of the worst “bubble states” are on the “non-recourse” state list. You would think that borrowing costs would be higher there, to reflect the additional risk, but you’d be wrong.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:32:29

“You would think that borrowing costs would be higher there, to reflect the additional risk, but you’d be wrong.”

This is exactly where the GSE-funded federally guaranteed loans up to $729,750 come into play. I’m just amazed that middle America is willing to provide free guarantees on such ginormous mortgages, many of which end up going to recently-arrived foreign nationals.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 11:50:07

They don’t, because they don’t know about it.

No incentive for the Cali and NYC-DC media to tell them about it. Ditto their elected representatives in DC, because all their campaign contributions come from the same people who make their living off California/NEC flippers.

As far as the sheeple out here are concerned, California and the northeast might as well be on another planet.

Which is what I find frustrating about living out here. They would rather fall back on their free market, everyone can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps dogma, that open their eyes as to what is going on.

I am making some headway with the 18-25 year olds. Mainly because what I’m telling them aligns better with what they are seeing with their own eyeballs, vs. the BS coming from their so-called elders/leaders.

 
Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:27:11

I’m just amazed that middle America is willing to provide free guarantees on such ginormous mortgages, many of which end up going to recently-arrived foreign nationals.”

Because they are too laid back, they don’t understand ultra competative costal city people grab with both hands as much as they can.

Someday it will dawn on them maybe already has ?

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-08-28 13:07:24

“I’m just amazed that middle America is willing to provide free guarantees on such ginormous mortgages,”

There are plenty of half million dollar or more houses in flyover too. They just aren’t starter homes.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-08-28 13:22:03

Oh yeah, except the higher loan limits aren’t available in Flyover. Suckers. Too bad they’ve been brainwashed into believing what’s good for the rich is good for America.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 14:15:58

“…ultra competitive coastal city people grab with both hands as much as they can.”

The part I don’t understand is that many of the high-end coastal buyers are recently-arrived immigrants with no long-term track record of living in America or paying taxes here. I don’t get why middle American taxpayers would agree to pay billions of tax dollars to fund recently-arrived immigrants’ high-end home purchases.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 11:18:44

Pbear, unless our young software engineers have $150,000 in cash to put down, the Qualified Residential Mortgage credit rist retention rule will likely halve those high end prices overnight.

I know I keep harping on that dang Rule, but requiring 20% in order to sell a mortage loan cleanly is a BIG deal. If a bank wants to sell 100% of a loan, the gov would require 20% down. Otherwise, the bank has to keep 5% of it, in which case the bank will probably want to see 10%-20% down anyway. (I doubt that the software engineers have10% — $60K — down either.)

Ben and I were debating whether it was the securitization or the stupid FB’s who caused the housing bubble. Well, since QRM will eliminate almost all of the securitization, I guess we’ll find out. Can the bubble prices be sustained on FB’s alone? My vote says no.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:29:36

What makes you think the QRM will ever go into effect?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 15:32:15

I don’t know Pbear. The public comments on the regulation were almost all the same: it will kill the housing market. When it get to the regulation stage, it’s pretty hard to stop. They may chip around the edges, but they probably won’t dump it completely.

Some of the comments started out with “although the regulators have assured us that many loans will be made outside of QRM…” This is a telling remark: it means that the regulators have already parried the most obvious objection to QRM.

If anything, some think that QRM isn’t strong enough. For example, if the loan qualifies for Fannie/Freddie, then the QRM requirement is waived. There’s a bill in Congress to get rid of that waiver — effectively making requiring 20% down for Fannie Freddie. That will kill the market in a hurry.

 
 
 
Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:22:48

The CA bust is gonna be epic!

Watching my kids play basketball it dawned on me that most adults in costal Ca are super competative. could explain why competative house bidding got so out of control here, it was the need to win.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-28 13:54:45

…and that’s why the worst is yet to come.

Hyper competitiveness (FBs) will always be vulnerable to hyper cooperation (banks).

An organized team will always beat a group of individuals.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:48:49

Bloomberg
Big changes on mortgages as ‘jumbo’ limits drop
Carolyn Said, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, August 26, 2011

Some large mortgages soon will get more expensive, a change that carries particular resonance in the pricey Bay Area.

Home loans above $625,500 in high-cost areas will be considered “jumbo” mortgages after Sept. 30, and will carry a higher interest rate than so-called conforming loans below that threshold. Right now, the jumbo loan cutoff in many high-cost areas, including most Bay Area counties, is $729,750.

Steve LeVine and Arian Brackett just bought a house in Moraga and borrowed from their 401(k)s to get their mortgage amount below the current $729,750 limit so they would have a lower interest rate.

“We saved $60,000 in extra interest over the life of the loan,” said LeVine, an emergency room physician. “If the new limits were in place, it wouldn’t have been an option; we wouldn’t have been able to scrape up that much. We were very aware of the deadline; we knew if we didn’t close before the change in the threshold came, we would be subject to jumbo rates, no way to get around it.”
Cutoff date Aug. 31

Banks typically take at least 30 days to fund mortgages, which means the effective cutoff date for people to apply to refinance or purchase loans at the current, cheaper rates is Aug. 31.

“I don’t think many homeowners fully understand how long it takes to complete a refinance and that they have to begin well before the expiration date,” said Dianne Crosby, senior loan consultant at LaSalle Financial Services in Oakland. “I’m worried people will think they can start their process all the way up to Sept. 30, and that’s not true. It’s human nature: If the deadline is Sept. 30, people start on Sept. 29.”

 
Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:12:32

English as a second language engineers. We interviewed one last week who lived in Carmel Valley Manager Type which means they will make 2X what I make and are stressed out to the max

Nothing like a middle aged Chinese women manager stress case in your cube blithering about this and that project not working right, blowing up, some exotic test that needs to be done, etc.

You see back in China were all the telecom parts are sold Chinese male engineers really pick on the American overpaid over educated Chinese women engineers. Who live in Carmel valley or Dos Vientos or some other 1M dollar neighborhood and drive cars worth more than what I take home in a year.

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-08-28 07:40:27

Finally totally caught back up after my trip to Poland. I’m hoping drumminj will release a FF6-compatible version of the plugin so I can quit listening to FF5 whine at me to update :-).

Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 08:46:18

You’re addicted more than most of us.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-08-28 13:01:27

I’m definitely addicted to being able to read the comments through once and then come back later in the day and quickly read through only the new messages. Or even the next day.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:05:44

Count me as another one of the addicts who’s clamoring for a FF6 upgrade on the JT Extension.

 
 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 12:44:28

How did you like Poland? I can’t wait to go back.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-08-28 13:05:04

I thought Krakow was nice, but I’m not really a big city person. I *loved* the rural area just north of the point where Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia meet. It helps that I’m related to almost everybody there. I received the politeness that a visitor from far away gets, plus the warmth of family. Always preferable to a visit to family where you get all the family crap dumped on you :-).

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 13:45:28

Agreed. We visited Krakow and, not being the stay out late types, found ourselves out beyond 0400 many times.

The family part was what I liked the most, which was a small village near the western border with Germany. Within 10 minutes of “meeting the family,” I had a plate of golabki slid in front of me. Some of the best hand/home made dishes I’ve ever eaten.

I also enjoyed the region you mentioned. Although that doubled as the place where my GF had to talk the cops outta giving us a 300 Euro ticket. It seems those black and white “you are now entering a town” signs carry, IIRC, a 50km/h speed limit which we didn’t know. I was doing 90. Oops.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2011-08-28 16:13:58

It seems those black and white “you are now entering a town” signs carry, IIRC, a 50km/h speed limit which we didn’t know.

Fascinating…I didn’t know that until now. Kinda glad I didn’t have a reason to know that. And there were several times when I wondered how on earth I was supposed to have any idea what the speed limit was.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 20:15:44

“And there were several times when I wondered how on earth I was supposed to have any idea what the speed limit was.”

LOL. Same here. We had no idea but thought that 90 seemed reasonable, especially after doing 120-140. Again, oops. (and we weren’t even the fastest at 90 many times.)

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 07:45:28

Why is it again that Middle American Main Street tax payers are not only asked, but rather forced, to provide billions of dollars worth in federal mortgage guarantees for coastal housing that sells for north of $500,000? Any home buyer who can afford a home at that price level certainly can also afford to pay a little more to fund his own mortgage insurance premium.

Conforming loan limits at stake
For release: June 23, 2011

Drop in conforming loan limits would raise cost of housing financing, hamper housing recovery

LOS ANGELES (June 23) – More than 30,000 California families will face higher down payments, higher mortgage rates, and stricter loan qualification requirements if conforming loan limits on mortgages backed by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac are reduced beginning October 1, 2011, according to analysis by the CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® (C.A.R.).

“By reducing the conforming loan limit, thousands of California home buyers will be shut out of homeownership,” said C.A.R. President Beth L. Peerce. “The higher mortgage loan limits are critical to providing liquidity in today’s housing market and are essential to our housing recovery. We urge Congress to maintain the current limits and make them permanent to provide homeowners and home buyers with affordable financing and help stabilize local housing markets.”

Barring Congressional action, the maximum FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac conforming loan limit will decline to $625,500 beginning Oct. 1, 2011, from the current $729,750 limit, though the majority of counties will fall far below the $625,500 maximum. The conforming loan limit determines the maximum size of a mortgage that FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) can buy or guarantee. Non-conforming or jumbo loans typically carry a higher mortgage interest rate than a conforming loan and require a higher down payment, increasing the monthly payment and negatively impacting housing affordability for California home buyers.

Under the new GSE loan limits, Monterey County would see the greatest drop in the loan limit at $246,750, followed by San Diego ($151,250), Sonoma ($141,550), Solano ($140,500), and Napa ($137,500) counties. Under the new FHA loan limits, Monterey County would see the greatest drop in the loan limit at $246,750, followed by Merced ($201,450), Riverside ($164,650), San Bernardino ($164,650), Solano ($157,300), and San Diego ($151,250) counties.

C.A.R. and the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® (NAR) have long advocated making permanent higher conforming loan limits. As a result of C.A.R.’s and NAR’s efforts, in 2008, Congress temporarily raised the conforming loan limits from $417,000 to $729,750 and has extended them annually through fiscal year 2011.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-08-28 08:35:47

If you had any doubts that NAR champions grossly inflated, entirely unaffordable housing then this should clarify.

Grossly inflated housing is now the #1 bottleneck in the economy.

 
Comment by rms
2011-08-28 09:52:47

“The higher mortgage loan limits are critical to providing liquidity in today’s housing market and are essential to our housing recovery. We urge Congress to maintain the current limits and make them permanent to provide homeowners and home buyers with affordable financing and help stabilize local housing markets.”

The socialist NAR doesn’t understand that falling RE prices ARE the housing recovery that renters are counting on for their chance at the American dream.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 12:50:31

Yes, but you missed the part where it said “affordable financing,” not affordable housing.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-28 13:58:07

Anyone who can afford a $500,000 house does NOT need welfare of ANY kind!

Yet they will be the first to throw Medicare/SS recipients to the curb. :mad:

Comment by Robin
2011-08-28 18:05:47

And if they succumb to the temptation of an ARM they are destined to repeat recent FB mistakes.

 
 
 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-08-28 07:45:52

http://www.azcentral.com/business/realestate/articles/2011/08/28/20110828az-real-estate-market-confusion.html

“Nearly five years after the beginning of the housing crash, the region’s market has fractured into countless different niches.”

“the market for small central Phoenix foreclosure homes being sold at auction - are booming, with prices rising and a huge demand from buyers.”

“traditional resales of newer large family homes in some neighborhoods in the far west or southeast Valley - have ground to a halt, where homes seemingly won’t sell at any price.”

“But agents and analysts see the same thing many homeowners feel. While some homes are selling easily, others simply won’t.”

“There’s a new normal for the market, but it’s a weird one.”

AND… finally they mix in a bit of truth.

“‘Homes in central Phoenix area priced under $100,000 are moving like gangbusters with very few homes remaining on the market for long,’ Hillier said. ‘I believe this is because of the location to jobs and public transportation’ and because the low prices mean investors get a reasonable return, in the form of rent, on their cash investment.”

And there it is. Crud shacks in old neighborhoods with no HOA or condo fees are being bought up at very low prices by slumlords.

If there is an HOA or a condo association that will complain about the delapadated condition of the rental, then you can’t sell it.

Comment by rms
2011-08-28 08:09:21

Suburb vs. Exurb

A house hunter in New Jersey asks, Is it better to buy a home in a close-in suburb or a newer house farther away from the city?

By JUNE FLETCHER, DECEMBER 17, 2010

Q: I am about to start home shopping and am trying to figure out what makes more sense—an older home in a close-in suburb that will probably need fixing up, or a newer one further out. Which is better?
—West Orange, N.J.

A: That’s like asking whether chocolate or vanilla ice cream is better; it really depends on personal preference. But I can help you weigh the pros and cons.

If you pick an older, close-in home, you will, of course, cut your commuting time while living in a neighborhood with established school systems, shopping centers, libraries, parks and other amenities. Because land has become increasingly expensive over the years, you’ll also probably get a bigger yard with mature landscaping. The home’s materials will likely be heavier and more substantial than those in a newer home—for instance, interior doors and flooring may be solid wood and facing may be real brick or stone rather than a synthetic substitute. The quality of wood used in construction may be higher, too, and floor joists may be placed closer together than in newer homes, cutting down on bounciness and squeaks.

But then there are the tradeoffs, starting with the obvious fact that older houses wear out. Once you move in, you may have to replace big-ticket items like roofing, kitchen appliances, water heaters, septic tanks and windows. Wiring may be inadequate, electrical panels may need upgrading and plumbing may be leaky. You also may have to deal with toxins like lead paint and asbestos in shingles, ceilings and insulation.

And then there’s the floor plan, which, if it predates the 1980s, probably won’t have main-floor family or laundry rooms and will certainly have a dinky kitchen. If the house is older than the 1940s, the basement—if there is one—may be windowless and dungeon-like, with no outside access.

Conversely, if you buy a newer house you will have an open layout, more space, taller ceilings, and bigger windows and closets. The house will undoubtedly be better-insulated and therefore more energy-efficient, and will have modern wiring that can accommodate today’s electronics. Plumbing, electrical and other systems will be up to code, and you won’t have to worry about replacing anything for a few years. The basement will have potential as living space, even if it is currently unfinished, since builders expect that buyers will eventually finish them off and so routinely put in plumbing rough-ins, good-sized windows and walk up or walk out exterior doors.

Depending on the neighborhood, newer houses also tend to be in master-planned communities with rules about architectural style and upkeep, making for a tidy streetscape and thoughtfully located stores, pools and other community amenities. However, if the neighborhood is brand-new, the amenities may not be completed for years and public transportation systems may be lacking.

If you’re still on the fence after weighing all these lifestyle options, consider price. Normally, new and almost-new homes sell at a substantial premium to older ones, but it is different now. Many communities built during the boom years have had a disproportionate number of foreclosures and short sales, because owners had little equity when the downturn hit. Thus, prices in these newer neighborhoods are depressed. Recession-racked builders are also deeply discounting prices. The result is that new and “newish” homes are now more of a bargain than they usually are and are likely to be in a year or two, once the housing market has recovered.

2011-08-28 10:16:59

Alternately, you could just rent and get home in time to play with the kid.

You might need to like the spouse though, in that case.

If she’s pushing for the exurb that really translates to “I’m boning the poolboy while you pay the mortgage”.

It basically depends on whether she likes chocolate or vanilla.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-08-28 13:31:55

“the market for small central Phoenix foreclosure homes being sold at auction - are booming, with prices rising and a huge demand from buyers.”

“traditional resales of newer large family homes in some neighborhoods in the far west or southeast Valley - have ground to a halt,”

___

I’ve been pointing out a similar situation around here. The outer exurbs/McMansions are selling cheaper, but nicer inner suburbs and downtown areas have barely had a hiccup, at least thus far.

 
 
Comment by rms
2011-08-28 08:00:00

The economics of good looks

“Physically attractive women and men earn more than average-looking ones, and very plain people earn less. In the labour market as a whole (though not, for example, in astrophysics), looks have a bigger impact on earnings than education, though intelligence—mercifully enough— is valued more highly still.”

http://www.economist.com/node/21526782

Comment by michael
2011-08-28 10:50:09

stupid ugly people are valued less than smart and/or good looking people in the workplace?

shocking!

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 11:12:16

The survey is wrong.

Stupid, attractive people will get hired/make more money than average, intelligent people 99% of the time.

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-08-28 13:11:14

I thought about that the other day when I saw a really expensive car and the guy driving it looked like Donnie Osmond. It made me think, have I ever see an ugly person driving a really expensive car? I can’t think of a single time, unless you count rich famous guys who happen to be odd-looking.

Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-28 14:03:12

I have. Old divorcees. :lol:

Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 18:04:48

…in the Beemer convertable.

However, the basic premise still holds. One needs look no further than Palin’s face — and many choose not to.

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Comment by frankie
2011-08-28 14:08:37

It’s the halo effect

“A study by Solomon Asch suggests that attractiveness is a central trait, so we presume all the other traits of an attractive person are just as attractive and sought after.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Personally I look for the reverse halo effect; if the boss I’m dealing with is ugly they sure as hell ain’t going to be dumb. If they are beautiful I assume they may well not be the sharpest knife in the box.

 
Comment by Robin
2011-08-28 18:11:52

Gene Simmons?

 
 
 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-08-28 08:09:15

From the San Francisco Chronicle:

Portion of men who work falling with wages

“Men who do have jobs are getting paid less. After accounting for inflation, median wages for men between 30 and 50 dropped 27 percent -to $33,000 a year -from 1969 to 2009, according to an analysis by Michael Greenstone, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economics professor who was chief economist for Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers. “That takes men and puts them back at their earnings capacity of the 1950s,” Greenstone says. “That has staggering implications.”

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 08:25:27

“That has staggering implications.”

This is especially staggering in places where real estate always goes up, such as coastal California.

 
2011-08-28 08:26:28

Welcome to the DEFLATION, baby!

Oh about those staggering implications.

They’re only staggering for MIT professors with “eternal inflation” models twinkling in their statistical datasets.

Comment by combotechie
2011-08-28 08:28:27

Plus one.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:34:15

BB is an MIT-minted PhD; not sure if he ever worked there as a professor.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2011-08-28 08:31:01

“That has staggering implications.” ??

Household formation at a later age and having children with a calculator firm in hand…Two head working household is almost mandatory now isn’t it ?

My nephew & wife have very good jobs…They make $300,000 +…They are both in their mid forties have been married for 13 years and just recently had their first (and only) child…

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2011-08-28 09:09:29

At that sort of salary, they are completely irrelevant insofar as this falling wage conversation goes..

Comment by scdave
2011-08-28 09:58:42

At that sort of salary, they are completely irrelevant insofar as this falling wage conversation goes ??

I think its relevant…If they wait until their forties to have one child what the hell is a car mechanic going to do with depressed wages ?? Sure the hell not going to have a bunch of kids even if he is married with the wife working…Who’s going to take care of the kids ??

So I stand by what I said about the implications of suppressed wages;

Household formation at a later age and having children with a calculator firm in hand…

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-28 10:14:08

Or not having kids at all.

 
Comment by polly
2011-08-28 12:03:36

But that is it. People who make $300K a year may do the analysis your nephew and his wide did. Overwhelming majority don’t even think that way. They have kids because they want them and that is what you do. Only the upper middle class even think about doing a detailed analysis to figure out if they can afford it.

 
 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2011-08-28 12:08:00

They are both in their mid forties have been married for 13 years and just recently had their first (and only) child…

That sounds like a wise choice. One problem, however, is that there is a much greater chance of birth defects when a woman gives birth in her forties.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 08:31:10

“That takes men and puts them back at their earnings capacity of the 1950s,” Greenstone says. “That has staggering implications.”

shu bop shu wah shu bop shu wah ooh wee oohooooo

It`s too bad house prices are still in the 2050s, which also has staggering implications.

2011-08-28 09:26:16

Surely you’re not saying that incomes have anything to do with house prices, are you?

That’s not in the statistical model, my good man. Surely you jest.

Oh, the humanity!

 
 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 11:36:46

So I WASN’T imagining things.

Don’t know why they needed some MIT professor to figure this out. Ask anyone who wasn’t a bankster or real estate flipper the past 30 years.

If my pay from 1980 kept pace with inflation, I’d be making six figures now…..and this is using CPI, not “real world” data.

Right now, (NOT inflation corrected), I’m back where I was in 1999. At least I’m still working.

Pay scales have nothing to do with supply and demand. They have everything to do with what your perceived “worth” is.

There are all kinds of crappy jobs that “nobody wants to do”……..but up the salary to $100K/year, and see how many apps you get.

Which gets to our current problem. Business wants to hire someone for a crappy job, but they don’t want to pay more than minimum wage. They get no apps because, after expenses, a minimum wage job is a money-loser for a lot of people.

So, instead of doing what the “free market” says is the answer (offer more pay), they lobby the government to reduce penalties for hiring illegals, or subsidies to hire (like job training programs the government pays for), or they get a crapload of H-1Bs.

A “Free market” is a fantasy. At least until labor is as portable as capital, and governments quit using the tax code to steal their neighbor’s tax base.

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-08-28 08:27:59

City-data.com appears to be a personal playground for Lying Realtors. Their lies and misinformation there is stunning.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 08:53:15

Service cuts in St. Lucie County aren’t painful to most residents

Posted: 10:10 PM
Eric Pfahler, TC Palm

ST. LUCIE COUNTY — Port St. Lucie, Fort Pierce and the county altogether have cut about half a billion dollars from their budgets in the last five years since the economy tanked, but officials have worked to make the cuts invisible to most residents.

Internal memos might take longer to receive attention than they once did.

It takes longer for builders to get permits, and some services are no longer available on holidays.Since 2007, St. Lucie County residents have had services trimmed as local governments recalibrate their budgets to coincide with massive reductions in property values.

“I honestly think the county’s done a marvelous job with the cuts,” said Craig Mundt, a member of the county’s Citizens Budget Committee. “I’ve seen very little impact on services.”

Port St. Lucie and Fort Pierce have made cuts, but the largest service impact has come from the county. All three entities, however, have eliminated more than 20 percent of their workforce as governments search for efficiency amidst declining revenues.

“Obviously, it’s never good when you’re laying off employees, and having reduced our workforce by more than one third is rather painful,” County Commission Chairman Chris Craft said. “But the reality is we’re part of the stewards of the property tax dollars that the people of St. Lucie County pay, and we need to make sure we’re running as efficiently as possible. I think (the decline in tax dollars has) helped us re-gauge that.”

Mundt said the biggest impact has been on employees. With staff reductions, current employees often have multiple tasks.

“What I do see, is I see a burden on the county employees,” he said. “They are really stretched and working hard.”

Still, not all service cuts in services have gone unnoticed.

Diminished library hours, decreases in lifeguards protecting beaches and longer times between mowing of public land are among service cuts that have generated complaints.

In Fort Pierce, employees have been furloughed.

In Port St. Lucie, 24 police officers were laid off.

Fort Pierce Mayor Bob Benton said city officials plan to end the furloughs after this budget year, but he hasn’t gotten many complaints from residents about City Hall being closed one day per month.

“When I explained the big picture, they were very understanding,” he said

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/service-cuts-in-st.-lucie-county-aren‘t-painful-to-most-residents- -

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 09:10:13

Bernanke’s Out-of-Touch Speech
The Daily Beast, Friday, August 26, 2011, 1:29pm (PDT)
By Zachary Karabell

No Ben to the rescue. The hugely anticipated speech by the Fed chairman proved to be remarkably vanilla, which should have surprised no one. Bernanke reiterated a series of themes that have been well iterated in recent weeks: that growth has stalled but is poised to rebound in the second half, that housing remains a drag on the slow economic recovery, that unemployment is disturbingly and dangerously high, and that better government fiscal policy to address short-term economic weakness and long-term deficits is essential.
Bing even more:

The only thing financial markets really cared about was whether there would be a hint of a new round of “quantitative easing,” known affectionately as QE, the last round of which, QE2, somehow appropriated the name of luxury liner. The results of QE2, however, were underwhelming for passengers in steerage, while temporarily making life that much easier for the staterooms. Stocks went up; employment and income did not.

On Friday morning, Bernanke promised no QE3, and given the excess of controversy and the dearth of tangible long-term benefit of the last round, that is a good thing. (The markets seem to have felt the same way, and rallied immediately after.) Instead, he stated blandly that the Fed “will continue to consider those and other pertinent issues, including of course economic and financial developments, at our meeting in September, which has been scheduled for two days (the 20th and the 21st) instead of one to allow a fuller discussion.” Ooh, two days instead of one. Hosanna.

The larger issue is that while the Fed may be looked to as the proverbial knight in shining armor, to mix clichés, it has few arrows left in its quiver. Short-term interest rates that the Fed controls are already de facto zero, and Bernanke has promised that they will remain so until at least mid-2013.

Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:33:45

yet the market went up ? strange this stock market thingy

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 09:11:32

Gold retreats amid profit-taking
AFP, LONDON

Gold surpassed US$1,900 an ounce for the first time this week as investors continued to snap up the safe-haven investment on growth concerns, while oil gained thanks to an unclear outlook for Libyan crude output. After strong gains for commodities at the start of the week, profit-taking set in ahead of a keenly awaited speech on the economy by US Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.

However, prices headed higher once more as Bernanke offered up no new economic stimulus measures for the struggling US economy, reigniting investor concerns about the recovery. Instead, Bernanke said he expected US growth in the second half of the year to improve after a first half in which expansion was nearly stagnant.

His optimistic outlook however came as official data showed the US economy grew less than initially thought in the second quarter, expanding 1 percent from the first quarter, compared with the US Department of Commerce estimate of 1.3 percent.

PRECIOUS METALS: Gold rocketed to US$1,913.50 an ounce on Tuesday before sliding US$200 over the following days. Investors banked profits ahead of Bernanke’s speech and also as exchanges increased their fees on gold transactions, analysts said.

Barclays Capital forecast that gold prices, which have surged in recent months on economic uncertainty, would average US$1,875 in the fourth quarter, and US$2,000 an ounce next year.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 13:12:08

“snap up”

“Snap up” used to connote buying an asset at a deep discount. Using it in the context above has “gold only goes up” written all over it.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 18:23:36

Nowadays, it means those with access to cut-rate lending of brazillions of freshly-created electronic printing press dollars buy anything they please at whatever price, realizing that if worse comes to worst, they will get bailed out. Besides that, the money is just the electronic equivalent of paper, anyway — not exactly worthless, but not that hard to create more of if push comes to shove and QE3 proves necessary.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 09:16:33

QE2-fueled “higher than expected” food price inflation on top of high unemployment is driving up participation in the food stamp program. One in seven Americans now relies on food stamps to eat.

But not to worry, as Bernanke offered reassurances in his Jackson Hole speech that the economy will pick up in the second half of 2011.

Slow-Growth Economy Spikes Food Stamp Reliance
by Marilyn Geewax
Weekend Edition Sunday

About 46 million people get government help in the form of food stamps when buying food. That’s roughly 15 percent of the population.
Enlarge Joe Raedle/Getty Images

August 28, 2011

This week, the U.S. Department of Agriculture is expected to release its latest update on the food stamp program. It’s an important indicator of the nation’s economic health — and the prognosis is not good.

Food stamp use is up 70 percent over the past four years and that trend is expected to continue.

The spike began in late-2008 and early-2009 when the worst of the recession was triggering massive layoffs and home foreclosures. Although the economy has been growing since mid-2009, the pace has been too slow to absorb the nearly 14 million people without jobs. Nearly half of those have been out of work more than six months.

As a result, the number of people seeking federal help with groceries has been soaring. At this time four years ago, before the recession hit, about 27 million people were using food stamps. Today 46 million get help through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — what most people call food stamps — which is roughly 15 percent of the population.

The combination of rising prices and stagnant wages have contributed to the need for food stamps; about 40 percent of food stamp recipients live in households where a family member is earning a wage.

But the government’s latest inflation report shows that the cost of living increased 3.6 percent in the past year while wages have barely budged. So a lot of working people need food stamps to close the gap between their low wages and high grocery bills.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-08-28 09:23:40

IIRC there are tens of millions more who qualify for food stamps but who don’t apply for them, possibly out of pride.

 
Comment by Left Ohio
2011-08-28 12:32:03

Ok, deflationistas, you win the argument WRT wages and house prices.

But where is the deflation in food prices? Energy prices? Do tell…

Comment by combotechie
2011-08-28 14:06:36

If food prices are to fall then the subsidies (food stamps) that keeps holding them up needs to be removed.

Not saying I want them to be removed or that removing them is a good thing but I am saying that if there is money targeted for purchases of catogories of consumer items then prices for those targeted items will not fall.

As for gasoline prices: Where I live and drive prices have fallen over the past several months.

It’s the middle of summer - the middle of the driving season - and gas prices have fallen.

Comment by combotechie
2011-08-28 16:34:52

Does anyone here think that China can keep up its buying up of raw material all over the world so as to keep building ghost cities that nobody lives in and manufacturing ten million cars that nobody will buy?

If not then where are these millions of Chineese workers now employed going to get the money to buy up the food and other stuff that the rest of the world is in competitiion for?

If there is no money then there are no customers.

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-28 14:08:52

I’m really having a tough time reading the tea leaves these days. Just above we read that:

“the market for small central Phoenix foreclosure homes being sold at auction - are booming, with prices rising and a huge demand from buyers.”

All around me, people are falling all over themselves for overpriced RENTALS (and some houses) and restaurants are packed.

Are we still in denial phase? People unwilling to give up all that they “earned” over the past decade?

 
 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-08-28 09:27:41

I used to engage in a lot of religious arguemnts. The problem with those is that neither side can ever be shown to be correct.

Economics is a whole other thing. In 1998 I could argue with people about whether buying stock in a company that has never made profits is a bad or good idea. Just need to wait a couple years….

In 2004 I could argue about whether house prices increasing 30-50% a year was sustainable… just need to wait a couple years.

Now, I lay out a cogent argument about supply-side economics using debt to increase demand, debt having increased at 3x inflation for 30 years, government currenlty the borrow of last resort…

Those that care to respond come back with the very effective… “You are ignorant”. blah blah.

We’ll see.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 09:42:20

What goes clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, BANG! BANG! BANG! Clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop?

An Amish drive-by shooting.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-28 11:54:04

:)

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2011-08-28 10:01:23

Syracuse, NY — A sewer grate in the city of Syracuse weighs 250 pounds and can be extremely difficult to dislodge, depending on how long it’s been in place.

Since July, somebody has stolen 68 of them.

City police Sgt. Tom Connellan confirmed Saturday that police are looking for whoever has been stealing the galvanized steel sewer grates, presumably to sell as scrap metal. So far, the police have made no arrests.

“They’re metal, and anything metal is worth money,” Connellan said. “It’s a problem.”

Several Central New York scrap dealers said they pay as much as 13 cents a pound for steel, making each stolen grate worth $30 to $33 at a scrap yard.

The city pays $226 each to buy new grates, said Tom Simone, first deputy commissioner of public works. That means the thefts have cost taxpayers more than $15,000 so far.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/grating_thefts_scrap_metal_scr.html

Comment by frankie
2011-08-28 14:35:54

Think I can beat that

“An 18-year-old from County Durham was found on fire after trying to steal live electrical cable carrying 11,000 volts, police said.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10256092

TULSA, Oklahoma — Public Service Company of Oklahoma says someone stealing copper wire caused a major power outage in Tulsa Sunday night. More than 8,000 homes were without power for up to three hours.

http://www.newson6.com/story/15189161/copper-thieves-strike-tulsa-substation-knocking-out-power-for-thousands

Theft of copper appears to be widespread through out the world. I had thought it was a UK problem; I was wrong.

Comment by oxide
2011-08-28 15:36:19

A friend showed me a picture of some African theives who tried to run their own tap into an oil pipeline in Nigeria. I’m not going to tell you what the picture looked like.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:31:27

MARKETS
AUGUST 23, 2011, 3:09 P.M. ET

American Home Mortgage Files ‘Robo-Signing’ Suit
By NICK TIMIRAOS

One of the nation’s largest mortgage servicers filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Lender Processing Services Inc., a top mortgage industry technology and services vendor, alleging that the firm improperly signed mortgage documents on its behalf and triggered millions of dollars in legal expenses as a result.

American Home Mortgage Servicing Inc. said in the lawsuit that it had incorrectly processed more than 30,000 mortgage assignments when seeking foreclosure on properties in all 50 states as a result of the work by an LPS subsidiary.

The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in a state court in Dallas County, Texas, and seeks unspecified damages worth millions of dollars. LPS, based in Jacksonville, Fla., does business with many of the nation’s largest mortgage servicers.

In a statement, LPS said it disagrees with the allegations included in the complaint and said that American Home has “refused to provide information evidencing … actual losses.”

In 2009, LPS shuttered the DocX LLC unit that was responsible for preparing mortgage filings after allegations surfaced that it had fabricated signatures and documents.

American Home, based in Coppell, Texas, and a unit of WL Ross & Co., doesn’t make loans but instead handles the day-to-day management of those mortgages on behalf of investors in mortgage-backed securities. It is the 15th-largest mortgage servicer and manages $72.5 billion in mortgages.

American Home alleged in the lawsuit that LPS didn’t dispute that it had improperly executed, notarized, and recorded thousands of assignments that American Home used to process foreclosures. But American Home said that LPS has refused to indemnify the servicer for millions of damages that resulted from the shoddy work by arguing that it wasn’t under an enforceable contract when the breaches occurred.

Last fall, mortgage servicers were forced to suspend and correct foreclosure filings after they were accused of “robo-signing,” or allowing employees to sign off on thousands of documents without reviewing their contents.

Tuesday’s lawsuit is one of the first by a servicer to attempt to put back losses for certain document-handling improprieties on an outside vendor. It concerns the use of “surrogate signers,” or employees that weren’t authorized to sign documents on behalf of the company.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:33:13

With Hurricane Ben bearing down on the global financial system, there really is no where to hide.

UPSIDE
AUGUST 27, 2011

Those Safe Havens You’ve Been Flocking to Aren’t So Safe
BY JACK HOUGH

It’s time for a flight from safety.

The recent market maelstrom has sent investors fleeing to traditional safe havens such as Treasury bonds, recession-resistant stocks, Swiss francs and gold.

But that has only made these assets riskier, exposing investors to the possibility of a tumble. Gold, for example, shed a quick $200 an ounce this past week before rebounding.

For investors whose “safety” now poses danger, here are some unloved assets to consider instead.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:11:14

I’m not sure I’d be looking at Treasury bonds right now. Notes? Not yet. Bills? Definitely.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:51:30

Friday, August 26, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Programs for financially troubled homeowners have limited success
By Jennifer Dixon
Detroit Free Press

When President Obama announced his first foreclosure-prevention initiative in February 2009, he promised $75 billion to help up to 4 million homeowners modify their mortgages to more affordable payments.

More than two years later, less than $3 billion has been spent and fewer than a million homeowners have received permanent loan modifications.

The Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, was to provide $50 billion of the total, with $25 billion more coming from taxpayer-subsidized Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Here is how three TARP foreclosure-relief efforts have fared:

Making Homes Affordable

What it is: The $29.9 billion program had an initial goal of helping 3 million to 4 million borrowers avoid foreclosure by modifying loans to an affordable level under the Home Affordable Modification Program, or HAMP.

How it has fared: Through June, 657,044 borrowers have received permanent modifications. An additional 115,515 were on trial modifications.

But more than 760,000 people had their trial modifications canceled. And 106,027 who won permanent modifications defaulted on those loans.

The latest numbers available show that TARP, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have spent slightly more than $2.2 billion to modify home loans.

What happened: According to TARP’s inspector general, HAMP’s failure to have a significant impact on the foreclosure crisis has many causes, including a rushed launch without fully developed rules; no initial requirement that borrowers document their income up front; and abysmal performances by banks handling loan modifications.

The Treasury Department says homeowners have had a median monthly savings of $524, or 37 percent of their original payment, for a total savings of $7.3 billion through June.

Mortgage Refinancing

What it is: The $8.1 billion Federal Housing Administration Short Refinance option gives banks the option to refinance an underwater borrower’s non-FHA insured mortgage into an FHA-insured mortgage at 97.75 percent of a home’s value, and reduce unpaid principal by at least 10 percent. Original estimates suggested it would help up to 1.5 million borrowers from 2011 to 2013.

How it has fared: According to a July report, just 257 loans have been refinanced under the program.

What happened: Bank participation is voluntary and involves forgiving at least 10 percent of the loan. Many large banks and investors, including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, oppose reductions of principal and are not participating. Through June, the program had spent $50 million, 0.6 percent of the total set aside.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:21:57

So the new plan is to turn mortgage bondholders into bagholders by allowing underwater borrowers to refinance at lower rates?

Wouldn’t this constitute a violation of private contractual terms in the mortgage bonds? If not, why isn’t it already happening?

I don’t mean to suggest that your average academic economist with a bright idea for a housing market panacea would ever worry about the fine points of business law…

Aug. 28, 2011, 9:50 a.m. EDT
Plan to kick-start housing wins Jackson Hole nod
Fed and Congress are seen as lacking policy ideas to lift economy
By Greg Robb, MarketWatch

JACKSON HOLE, Wyo. (MarketWatch) — A possible White House effort to kick-start the moribund housing market by allowing homeowners to refinance won wide support from leading economists attending the Federal Reserve’s summer policy retreat.

Economists appeared eager to consider dark-horse programs as many see difficult economic conditions, if not another outright recession, in the cards for the next 18 months. The meeting ended Saturday.

Analysts said trial balloons are appearing that suggest President Barack Obama may announce a new idea to help the housing sector.

Bill Galston, a senior fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution, urged Obama to include such a program in his new stimulus package to be announced next month.

“Either we wait three or four years for households to reduce their debt burdens and regain their balance or government and business can find a way of working together to accelerate the process, which would boost growth,” Galston wrote in a report.

Support for the plan in Jackson Hole may reflect a bit of resignation from the participants that the Federal Reserve and Congress are out of traditional ammunition to battle the slowdown and help must come in new forms.

“There is a feeling that there is no flexibility in fiscal policy and the Fed’s QE2 didn’t generate the type of pickup in demand that was hoped for,” said Mickey Levy, the chief economist at Bank of America.

“It is a new feeling of despair,” he said.

The most concrete proposal came from Glenn Hubbard, a former top economic adviser to President George W. Bush and now dean of the business school at Columbia University.

His plan, presented to the White House, would allow any homeowner current on a government-backed mortgage to refinance even if the home’s value was less than the current mortgage amount.

Mickey Levy, the chief economist at Bank of America, says Fed interest-rate policy, including controversial asset purchases, cannot get the economy out of its slow-growth funk.

As of June, more than 75% of GSE borrowers with a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage had an interest rate of 5% or more, Hubbard said in an interview with MarketWatch.

He said the plan would help up to 37 million borrowers and help the economy by acting as a long-lasting tax cut that would add $70 billion per year to spending.

Bondholders would be the losers under the plan – instead of getting above-par returns, they would only get par on their bonds. But they would finally have certainty, Hubbard argued.

Comment by cactus
2011-08-28 12:41:25

Bondholders would be the losers under the plan – instead of getting above-par returns, they would only get par on their bonds. But they would finally have certainty, Hubbard argued.

Question; would this make you want to buy bonds backed by housing loans in the future?

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 13:19:46

“…would this make you want to buy bonds backed by housing loans in the future?”

It sounds like the plan is to shut down private sources of mortgage lending forever.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:14:45

Question; would this make you want to buy bonds backed by housing loans in the future?

My answers: No. Uh-uh. No way, Jose.

I feel a bond buyers’ strike in the offing.

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Comment by Ol'Bubba
2011-08-28 13:26:42

A mortgage payment is comprised of principal and interest.

If a plan can refinance a mortgage to a lower interest rate, then for a given amount of debt service dollars, more of the payment goes towards paying down the debt.

This is a variation on the deleveraging theme. It won’t solve the problems over night, but it’s a start.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 14:07:52

“If a plan can refinance a mortgage to a lower interest rate, then for a given amount of debt service dollars, more of the payment goes towards paying down the debt.”

And that additional amount of payment that goes towards paying down the debt is funded by a decrease in the future interest payments which bond owners receive as their investment return. Hence the expected present value of the future interest payments on the bond decrease from what they were before the interest rate cram down, and the bond owners lose money.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:16:52

Hence the expected present value of the future interest payments on the bond decrease from what they were before the interest rate cram down, and the bond owners lose money.

Speaking as the descendant of a very successful bonds broker (Hey, Grandpa, hope you’re telling great baseball stories up in Heaven!), I can assure you that people buying bonds do NOT like to lose money.

 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-08-28 15:54:28

“Wouldn’t this constitute a violation of private contractual terms in the mortgage bonds? ”

Maybe the gov can threaten to withdraw its guarantees on the loans if the MBS investors won’t cooperate with the cramdown. I don’t believe the guarantees are in the original contracts.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:13:03

What happened: According to TARP’s inspector general, HAMP’s failure to have a significant impact on the foreclosure crisis has many causes, including a rushed launch without fully developed rules; no initial requirement that borrowers document their income up front; and abysmal performances by banks handling loan modifications.

Didn’t we predict that these things would happen?

Psst! Mr. President! There’s this prescient group of bloggers that you oughta talk to. They go by the initials HBB.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 10:56:16

Three years after these companies collapsed and became wards of the U.S. taxpayer, the MSM is finally getting around to explaining to the average American exactly who they are!? Wow…

Does the article explain how enormously profitable these companies were back when they operated as quasi-public corporations, and how huge the bill to the U.S. taxpayer has been since the government took them over after their spectacular Fall 2008 implosions?

August 26, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Who are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
By Jennifer Dixon
Detroit Free Press

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are publicly traded companies that guarantee the majority of new mortgages in the U.S. They are key players in the government’s foreclosure-prevention initiative.

Fannie Mae, officially the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie Mac, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp., were taken over by the government in 2008 after billions of dollars in losses and years of mismanagement.

Fannie and Freddie operate in the secondary mortgage market. They don’t sell mortgages directly to homeowners; they buy mortgages from banks and other lenders, which can use the money to issue new home mortgages.

To increase access to home loans, Fannie was created as a federal agency in 1938 and chartered by Congress in 1968, followed by Freddie in 1970. But they also are publicly traded corporations and — before their taxpayer bailout — had a duty to maximize shareholder return.

Those divergent missions were criticized as a “fundamentally flawed” business model by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, which Congress created to examine the causes of the economic crisis that began in 2007.

Fannie and Freddie loosened underwriting standards leading up to the financial crisis, buying and guaranteeing riskier loans and ramping up purchases of mortgage-backed securities to please Wall Street analysts and to “ensure generous compensation for their executives and employees,” the commission determined.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:02:19

Fannie Mae Conservator Sued by Pension Funds Over Recovery Limit
By Tom Schoenberg and Lorraine Woellert - Aug 26, 2011 9:01 PM PT

A pension fund investors group sued Fannie Mae’s conservator over a rule that could limit their recovery for damages stemming from securities fraud.

The Ohio Public Employees Retirement System and the State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio asked a federal judge in Washington yesterday to throw out the Federal Housing Finance Agency rule, which sets the priority for payment of unsecured claims against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the home mortgage finance companies now under government control.

The pension funds argue that the rule, which took effect July 20, violates the Appointments Clause of the U.S. Constitution and the Housing and Economic Recovery Act because Edward DeMarco, FHFA’s acting director, who imposed it, has been in his position for almost two years without Senate confirmation.

“If Fannie Mae’s officers — the very individuals responsible for the fraud — sued the company to recover their attorney’s fees, their claims would receive priority over plaintiffs’ valid securities fraud claims,” the shareholders allege in the lawsuit.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:09:03

Mortgages are hardly the only underwater part of New Jersey.

Record Flooding Expected in New Jersey
Aug. 27, 2011

Deputy Coordinator for the Burlington County, NJ Office of Emergency Management Steve King tells WSJ’s Christopher Rhoads that the newest rain estimates for Hurricane Irene will be higher than expected and could lead to record flood levels in the state.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 11:10:42
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:19:56

Speaking of flooding, there’s quite a bit of that in Chester County, PA. That’s where my parents live.

Been trying to get hold of them since yesterday. I keep getting “temporarily disconnected” recordings whenever I call.

So, today I decided to call their local police department to see what was going on. The lady who answered the phone sounded like she couldn’t talk for very long. But, during the New York minute that we were connected, she said that there were massive telephone and power outages in the area.

The good news is that my folks live in a neighborhood where people really look out for each other. So, I’m feeling somewhat reassured.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 11:28:47

School superintendent gives up $800k in pay

By TRACIE CONE - Associated Press
AP – 2 hrs 14 mins ago..

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) — Some people give back to their community. Then there’s Fresno County School Superintendent Larry Powell, who’s really giving back. As in $800,000 — what would have been his compensation for the next three years.

Until his term expires in 2015, Powell will run 325 schools and 35 school districts with 195,000 students, all for less than a starting California teacher earns.

“How much do we need to keep accumulating?” asks Powell, 63. “There’s no reason for me to keep stockpiling money.”

Powell will still earn a six-figure retirement, especially hefty by the standards of California’s farming heartland. But because his salary comes out of the district’s discretionary budget, for the next three years he’ll be able to steer the money he is giving up where he wants: to programs for kindergarten and preschool, the arts and a pet project that steers B and C students into college by teaching them how to take notes and develop strategy skills.

“Our goal has never been to have things,” Powell said of himself and his wife, Dot. “We want to give back.”

http://news.yahoo.com/school-superintendent-gives-800k-pay-150206667.html - -

Comment by rms
2011-08-28 11:58:47

Larry Powell would never cut it at Goldman Sachs.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 14:32:14

“Larry Powell would never cut it at Goldman Sachs.”

That`s one way to look at it, another might be a public employee who says “How much do we need to keep accumulating?” asks Powell, 63. “There’s no reason for me to keep stockpiling money.”

 
 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-08-28 13:10:25

$100K a year pension?

I think we’ve found CA’s problems.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-08-28 14:43:01

Posted above

ST. LUCIE COUNTY — Port St. Lucie, Fort Pierce and the county altogether have cut about half a billion dollars from their budgets in the last five years since the economy tanked, but officials have worked to make the cuts invisible to most residents.

Port St. Lucie and Fort Pierce have made cuts, but the largest service impact has come from the county. All three entities, however, have eliminated more than 20 percent of their workforce as governments search for efficiency amidst declining revenues.

“Obviously, it’s never good when you’re laying off employees, and having reduced our workforce by more than one third is rather painful,” County Commission Chairman Chris Craft said. “But the reality is we’re part of the stewards of the property tax dollars that the people of St. Lucie County pay, and we need to make sure we’re running as efficiently as possible. I think (the decline in tax dollars has) helped us re-gauge that.”
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If they can cut half a billion in that county with the cuts invisible to most residents, kinda makes me wonder what the federal govt. could do if they really wanted or needed to.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 13:18:11

The Financial Times
August 28, 2011 8:24 pm
Waiting for QE3

Ben Bernanke disappointed those who hoped his speech at the central bankers’ conference in Jackson Hole would signal a fresh round of quantitative easing. The US Federal Reserve chairman ruled nothing out, however. He acknowledged the recent run of gloomy economic news, and said the next meeting of the Fed’s policymaking committee would take an extra day to discuss the “merits and costs” of monetary stimulus. Meanwhile, he called on Congress to improve its fiscal policy and attend to issues that lie outside the Fed’s purview.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 14:04:32

If the American economy were an internal combustion engine, I would suggest the Fed has flooded it with too much liquidity.

AHEAD OF THE TAPE
AUGUST 26, 2011

More Liquidity Only Douses Growth Sparks
BY KELLY EVANS

Today’s ultralow interest rates have helped boost profits, but not economic growth.

This is plainly evident in recent figures. Since the recession ended in mid-2009, U.S. corporate profits have jumped by about 43% to a record $1.45 trillion as of the first quarter, after taxes, inventory and accounting adjustments, according to the Commerce Department.

What hasn’t recovered, however, is economic growth. Indeed, in real terms, gross domestic product hasn’t even returned to its prerecession peak.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-28 14:21:36

I still think they’re confusing liquidity with solvency. Fundamentally, what we have is a collection of insolvent financial institutions. You can’t fix this problem with injections of liquidity.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 14:27:32

Number of short sales on the rise
By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY
Updated 1h 35m ago

Short sales are increasing as a percentage of home sales in many states, helping some neighborhoods and homeowners avoid the more devastating impacts of foreclosures.
By J Pat Carter, AP

Short sales — when lenders allow financially strapped borrowers to sell homes for less than their unpaid mortgage — accounted for 12% of home sales nationwide in the second quarter. That’s up from 10% in the same period last year, says researcher RealtyTrac.

The increases were sharper in some states, including California, Nevada, Michigan, Georgia and Colorado, the data show.

In Colorado, short sales were 17% of all sales in the second quarter, up from 10% a year earlier. In California, they made up 25% of sales, vs. 18%.

Bank of America, the largest home mortgage servicer, expects to complete more than 100,000 short sales this year — more than double what it did in 2009, the bank says.

Wells Fargo Senior Vice President J.K. Huey says short sales have been “steady to slightly” up in recent months, partly because there are fewer bank-owned houses for sale in some markets, and that has forced buyers to pursue more short-sale properties.

Short-sale homes, which often remain occupied until sold, tend to retain values better than those that go through foreclosure. That helps values of neighboring homes.

In the second quarter, short-sale homes sold at a 21% discount to non-foreclosure homes, while bank-owned homes went at a 40% discount, RealtyTrac says. Short sales may also reduce losses for loan owners because they avoid full foreclosure costs. Borrowers may qualify for new mortgages sooner after a short sale than after a foreclosure.

“Short sales are a very positive solution,” says BofA Vice President Dave Sunlin.

Short sales peaked at 16% of the market in early 2009, RealtyTrac says. Realtors say there should be more short sales and that they should get done faster.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 14:33:05

Almost all the foreclosure notices I see in the paper these days are for loan amounts north of $500K — clearly not involving little guys.

The Obama administration has been talking about helping out homeowners already for years, with little success. How is this proposal any different, particularly if it attempts to coerce group B of non-homebuyers to fund members of group A_’s home purchases?

One Final Bailout That Still Might Happen
By Rick Newman
Posted: August 26, 2011

There’s one big group of Americans who still haven’t received much of a bailout from Washington—homeowners. Now, there’s a growing chance the Obama administration may finally do something to help the little guy directly.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 15:49:13

Elections
Paul: Bernanke Is Out of Options to Save Economy
Published August 28, 2011

Chairman Ben Bernanke is not calling for another fix to the economy by the Federal Reserve because he’s already used up all the quivers in the Fed’s bow, Rep. Ron Paul said Sunday.

Paul is a 2012 Republican presidential candidate and supports the U.S. returning to the gold standard to protect its currency and force a balanced budget. He has been highly critical of the Federal Reserve and its chairman over plans for “quantitative easing,” a two-part program which flooded the market with dollars in an attempt to make money more available for borrowing and lending.

Paul argued that Bernanke’s plan to buy bank assets and drop more than $2 trillion into the economy did not yield the results the chairman hoped, a conclusion that Paul says Bernanke implicitly acknowledged during a speech last week in which he offered no new bailout programs from the Fed.

“He really hasn’t pulled back. Symbolically, he has and he is not having another QE3,” Paul said. “But he has maintained a (view) to keep interest rates low until 2013. You can’t keep interest rates low without monetizing debt because if somebody else doesn’t buy it, he has to buy it. So he’s continuously quantitatively easing.”

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 21:24:41

“So he’s continuously quantitatively easing.”

I had the same thought as RP; i.e., what is the difference between pledging ZIRP until 2013 and quantitative easing?

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 18:26:10

The super low dollar has attracted droves of foreign buyers into snapping up American foreclosure homes at fire-sale prices.

Atlanta Business News
5:00 a.m. Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Home market gets foreign aid
By Christopher Quinn
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Foreign accents and real estate agents representing foreign buyers have become common at foreclosure auctions in metro Atlanta.

Low home prices and strong foreign currencies have made the Georgia even more attractive to investors.

Georgia has long been a top-10 state for foreign real estate investors, the National Association of Realtors says, but low home prices and strong foreign currencies have made the U.S. and Georgia even more attractive to investors. What is new in this round of buying is that individuals, not just investment firms, are getting involved, and they are dropping money into Atlanta houses, condos and apartments rather than stocks or bonds back home.

Foreign residential investments in the U.S. grew from $66 billion to $82 billion in the 12 months between March 2010 and 2011, the NAR says. Two percent of the $82 billion came to Georgia, it says.

The money is helping prop up metro Atlanta home prices and keeping Georgians employed, local real estate agents say.

Michael Over, an Englishman living in Thailand, visited Las Vegas, Memphis and Atlanta, researching a place to park some investment money. The retired baker bought five homes on this trip.

After keeping them for a while and seeing how they do, he might buy another five, he said in the Marietta offices of WRI Capital Group.

Andy Capps, a managing partner with the firm that specializes in helping foreign investors, sees more brokers, big investors and individuals coming on their twice-monthly bus tours of available metro Atlanta homes.

“We are selling 30 to 40 a month,” Capps said, with most buyers coming from Australia, the United Kingdom, China, Israel and Canada.

“Definitely, the average person can now get into the residential real estate market,” he said. “And interest has certainly picked up on the residential side.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 22:38:44

Did Buffett’s $5bn capital injection obviate these concerns?

Stephen Foley: Spectre of sub-prime lending is still haunting Bank of America
Saturday, 13 August 2011

US Outlook: Anyone searching for terrifying echoes of the 2008 financial crisis need have looked no further than what happened to Bank of America this week.

How much of this sounds familiar? Shares in one of the biggest banks in the US are pinging about as if they were a penny stock, and the cost of insuring its debt is soaring. Analysts openly speculate about a “black hole” in its finances, where mounting and unquantifiable mortgage losses may force it into an emergency fundraising. Most terrifying of all, the chief executive finds it necessary to go on business television to calm frayed nerves.

Who can forget Bear Stearns’s boss Alan Schwartz going on CNBC in March 2008 to deny aliquidity crisis at his firm, a declaration of complacency that only exacerbated the run and sank the bank within days?

These were the similarities that got everyone’s attention whenBrian Moynihan, BofA’s chief executive, took to the airwaves. The differences were actually more apparent – BofA is not facing an existential crisis, and it has many more sources of liquidity than a pre-crisis investment bank like Bear ever did – but my goodness, Mr Moynihan is in a mess.

BofA is the quintessential “systemically important financial institution” (Sifi is the new jargon term for banks popularly known as too big to fail). It touches one out of every two households in the US. Its branches are on almost every street corner in the nation and it owns Merrill Lynch, the powerhouse investment bank.

Importantly for understanding why it is in such a state, it also bought America’s largest subprime lender, Countrywide Financial, in 2007. Countrywide is now the imploding star at the heart of the company.

Four years after the collapse of the subprime mortgage market, we still don’t know the total losses involved. How can we? Banks have resisted a once-and-for-all programme of loan forgiveness for underwater borrowers, and are instead pursuing piecemealrefinancings and foreclosures, all of which are gummed up in paperwork. Meanwhile, the ailing economy threatens to bring about another drop in house prices (which BofA worryingly claimed this week it was not planning for).

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 22:43:03

ABREAST OF THE MARKET
AUGUST 29, 2011

Fed Faces Old Foe as Hazard Returns
By E. S. BROWNING

To seasoned investors, last week’s sharp market swings were a fresh reminder of a problem tormenting financial markets: moral hazard.

Stocks jumped, then sank and then rose again, as investors tried to bet on whether the Federal Reserve is going to intervene again to support financial markets.

Economists sometimes refer to that kind of market behavior as moral hazard, which refers to risky investing done in the hopes that government will bail people out of any trouble they get into.

It was a big issue after the 2008 collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., when the government bailed out several other banks. It created the idea that they were too big to fail and that their executives and bondholders would be protected from their own mistakes.

Today, investors have returned to risk-taking in hopes of government intervention, and newly confident banks are protesting efforts to increase regulation.

In an interview, former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said government intervention can create moral hazard.

“Oh, I think so,” he said. While he declined to comment on current monetary policy, he mentioned “too big to fail” as an example. Government actions almost inevitably have unintended consequences, he said.

“There were unintended consequences to almost every action I was involved in” as Fed chairman, said Mr. Greenspan, who himself cut interest rates to help stave off a bond-market crisis in 1998, and later was accused of helping inflate the stock bubble of the late 1990s.

“If we anticipated the unintended consequences that were going to happen we might have changed the policy,” he said, but he added that it is impossible to forecast all the consequences of government action.

Asked if he had regrets about any of his decisions, Mr. Greenspan said that policy makers are fortunate if they get it right 80% of the time. “Central bankers don’t fret about the ones that came out less well than they would like. They just press forward and do the best they can,” he said.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-08-28 22:46:48

ECONOMY
AUGUST 29, 2011

Central Bankers Worry Economy Still in Peril
By JON HILSENRATH And CHARLES FORELLE

JACKSON HOLE, Wyo.—After four years of fighting crises and pumping money into the financial system, the world’s central bankers are concluding that the global economy is still in a precarious position and the policy apparatus is ill-equipped to help.

The mood here in the Grand Tetons, where central bankers and private economists from around the world gather each August, was distinctly gloomy.

The angst was underscored in a blunt speech by the International Monetary Fund’s new managing director, Christine Lagarde. “We risk seeing the fragile recovery derailed,” she said Saturday. Those risks have been aggravated, she said, by the public’s sense that policy makers’ response has been inadequate. “We are in a dangerous new phase,” the former French finance minister said.

What Ms. Lagarde said publicly, several central bankers expressed privately. The central bankers’ problems are compounded by internal divisions and current realities. Several U.S. Federal Reserve officials have doubts about how much more they can do to resuscitate a U.S. recovery that is falling short of Fed expectations. Most European Central Bank officials believe the solutions to Europe’s sovereign-debt, governance and banking woes lie with elected leaders, not the ECB.

Economists at JPMorgan, in their weekly reprise of economic developments, blamed the recent global stock selloff on “a sense of policy paralysis in the U.S. and Europe, which has driven home the point that there is no cavalry to ride to the rescue.”

“Fiscal policy has turned restrictive and an additional sharp tightening lies just ahead in the U.S., while monetary authorities have exhausted much of their ammunition,” they said.

Officials on both sides of the Atlantic who orchestrated the response to the global financial crisis insist the world economy would have been worse had they not acted as they did. But it’s clear that the remedies didn’t deliver the recovery for which they hoped.

 
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