I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.
Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.
And about two weeks ago I heard Chris Thornberg on the radio remarking that home prices have appeared to have bottomed out.
There have been 3 million foreclosures. There are 4.5 million more currently in the pipeline and probably atleast another 3 million beyond that coming. 1/3rd done, and they are declaring bottom?
Darrell,
It is very surprising that in a sane mind one would assume that people in power would try to fix this mess properly so that it doesn’t happen again. What I see in my nabe is people who bought in the last few years are again foreclosing as prices went down further.
They can declare bottom or whatever, they cannot prevent the inevitable. Prices have to correct to sustainable levels. Only thing they have been smartly trying to do os prolong it and then adjust it for inflation. Buyers like me will never be able to buy. The interest rates will not go up for the next 3-4 years, MID would stay forever, Fann/Fred will keeping getting their money, foreclosures will be hidden from market and a fictitous demand is being created by hoarding the supply.
Martin,
Just take a look at trustee sale laws for a good look at what could ( I think will) happen in judicial foreclsoure states once they get the MERS problem resolved.
House across the street from me that went for $110K in 2002 and $260K in 2006, just sold for $73K.
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-31 09:04:58
House across the street from me that went for $110K in 2002 and $260K in 2006, just sold for $73K.
Thanks for keeping such an eagle eye on the situation, darrell!
“What I see in my nabe is people who bought in the last few years are again foreclosing as prices went down further.”
Yep, the tax credit buyers are already on the skids.
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-31 11:32:31
Around here, I’m seeing the crash of the In-VEST-or Classes of 2006 and 2007. And, from what I can tell, some of those 2010 Homebuyer Tax Credit people look wobbly already.
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-31 12:54:35
I have been paying attention to the market for 4+ years. It is amazing the number of homes that have been bought and sold in that period that I am seeing coming back on the market.
Although I have to admit w/several of them, the sold sign went out but I never did notice a moving truck moving anything in or out.
Comment by CA renter
2011-08-31 17:03:30
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-31 12:54:35
I have been paying attention to the market for 4+ years. It is amazing the number of homes that have been bought and sold in that period that I am seeing coming back on the market.
Although I have to admit w/several of them, the sold sign went out but I never did notice a moving truck moving anything in or out.
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That’s exactly what we’ve been seeing. The same houses keep turning over…because prices are STILL too high.
LPS Mortgage Monitor came out a few days ago for the month of July.
Highlight of the presentation:
Judicial States have an average of 111 months to work through their foreclosures based on their pace of dealing with the mess (based on current level of distress and average pace of foreclosure sales).
Non-Judicial States are at an average of 32 months to work through their mess (based on current level of distress and average pace of foreclosure sales).
Conclusion: some states are more than 1/3 done (generally non-judicial), some states are less than 1/3 done (generally judicial).
“I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.”
And the sell side will have to accept there will be no buyer at any price.
Look at the vast divide beween CNBC and MSNBC. Owned by the same company and managed by the same organization. Two VASTLY different sets of headlines and spin.
CNBC provides investing info, so has to cater to the Republicans. Faux News had the Limbaugh crowd locked up, so MSNBC had to cater to the Democrats.
Watching these two “news” programs you’d think they were talking about different planets.
Yeah, you have Jeff Immelt spoon feeding progressives their daily dose of energizing propaganda on MSNBC. Then, while the masses of progressive drones are hypnotized, he continues to offshore jobs, evade corporate taxes and give away American developed technology to the Chinese.
What’s really frustrating is that they are saying the housing market has bottomed when the government/GSEs are trying to figure out what to do with all the vacant/foreclosed homes.
How much more of this do we have to take?
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Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) — For sale or rent by motivated owner: 248,000 foreclosed homes.
The U.S. government, which has become the nation’s biggest owner of residential properties, is looking for ways to reduce and manage its huge inventory without swamping the real estate market or exposing federal agencies to enormous losses.
Government-run Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration now own about a third of the country’s nearly 800,000 foreclosed properties. With that inventory predicted to grow, they are looking for new ways to cope.
In a joint public appeal this month, the agencies invited the public to send in suggestions for managing the inventory, particularly ideas for turning foreclosed homes into rentals.
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But the most maddening part is this:
With more than $170 billion drawn so far, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are among the biggest recipients of government bailout money.
Whether turning foreclosures into rentals is a solution remains to be seen. The government wants to explore, among other things, partnerships with investors that would allow Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and FHA to keep an ownership stake in the rental properties, giving the government potential to gain from sales should the housing market recover.
Joint Ventures
Structured properly, joint ventures could help mitigate the impact of foreclosures on struggling neighborhoods, some housing experts say.
“This proposal is encouraging because it looks like a serious attempt to address two problems that have not received enough attention, which is property maintenance and the impact on communities,” said Kevin Stein, associate director of the San Francisco-based California Reinvestment Coalition, which works on behalf of low-income areas.
In the request for information, the agencies said deals would ideally involve packages of properties ranging in value from $50 million to $1 billion.
So…instead of letting working Americans buy affordable homes (the REAL “Ownership Society” with no gimmicks or B.S.), we are going to reward the capitalist parasites who’ve destroyed our country, yet again, at the expense of home buyers, renters, and the goverment/taxpayers. I’ve heard these “investors” are whining that they need government loans in order to entice them to invest!
Seriously, we desperately need our own lobbying group. Is there anything we can do about this?
Working Americans have already bought unaffordable homes, or HELOCed their home into unaffordability. They can’t buy an affordable home without selling first, and they can’t sell because they are underwater. That’s the entire point. The Admin is catering to the majority, not the people “on the fence.” From what I can tell, the only people on the fence are HBB. (that’s why I proposed and EZBK holiday)
But I agree that turning foreclosures into rentals probably won’t help the neighborhood.
But I agree that turning foreclosures into rentals probably won’t help the neighborhood.
I also agree.
For the pure and simple fact that, in any given market, there are only so many home purchasers and so many renters. If you have a surplus of housing, some of those places are going to sit empty.
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Comment by darrell_in_phoenix
2011-08-31 09:21:06
Yep. Turn them into rentals to stop house price declines that would be casued by selling them, you drive down the cost of rent. Now, instead of walking because they are underwater, the walk because they can rent for way less than their house payment.
Comment by darrell_in_phoenix
2011-08-31 09:22:45
Oh, and then investors stop buying up post-foreclosures as rentals becasue rent is so low. Now, instead of more supply than demand, you have less demand than supply. Oh, wait… that’s the same thing.
Thornberg has turned into quite the serial bottom caller as of late.
I suppose it is possible that prices have reached a nominal, government-sponsored-and-supported bottom. But real prices have years of downward equilibration ahead to reconcile a massive supply glut of overpriced, unwanted family-sized McMansions with a dwindling prospective buyer pool. The demand side would be bad enough if only due to the high unemployment rates and underwater household balance sheets of the Great Recession. Throw in a tsunami of Baby Boomer household retirements on top of a dismal rate of U.S. household formation and the lowest U.S. birth rates in a century, and you can anticipate real problems for U.S. housing demand over the next couple of decades.
I agree with the writers of this article that the U.S. economic expansion may be hammered in the near term by Baby Boomers leaving the workforce, especially as many of them curtail their luxury consumption in a desperate attempt to retain a minimal standard of living during their retirement years after seeing the values of their houses drop and their stock portfolios get hammered during the Lost Decade.
This said, there are green shoots of long-term upside potential for the U.S. economy, as a large number of highly-qualified recent college graduates who have had a very difficult time finding jobs may find opportunities created by Baby Boomer retirements. This rebirth process is something which will play out over many years, not over the near-term time horizon which Wall Street traders tend to myopically favor.
Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — This is not your mother’s recovery.
Women and baby boomers entering the American workforce after 1950 helped to supercharge expansions in 1975 and 1983 by filling an increasing number of jobs and purchasing more goods and services. Now as the share of women with jobs falls and older Americans age into retirement, the shrinking — or, at best, slowly growing — workforce will weaken economic activity for the next two decades.
The demographic changes may be the biggest and least- appreciated reason why the two-year recovery has slowed, because the rate of growth for labor and capital is “the most important determinant” of economic expansion, said James Paulsen, chief investment strategist for Wells Capital Management in Minneapolis.
More retirees mean slower household formation, reduced consumer spending and downward pressure on equity prices as retirement cuts people’s purchasing power, according to John Lonski, chief economist at Moody’s Capital Markets Group in New York, and Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania.
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It is interesting that just a few years ago the baby boomers leaving the work force was suppose to lead to a shortage of workers and a very low unemployment rate.
Once again, I would like to remind everyone that Gen X & Y are FAR larger than the boomers.
This article is just another re-enforcement of the “SS is broke” propaganda.
SS is NOT broke. That meme is perpetuated by the Repubs for Wall St. trying to take the money for their own use.
What IS broke is our capability of creating decent paying jobs.
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Comment by oxide
2011-08-31 09:23:28
If you have twice as many Gen X/Y making minimum wage trying to support Boomers who twice the salary, it kinda cancels out.
Comment by CA renter
2011-08-31 17:07:50
But we also have to refrain from the “us vs. them” arguments that the PTB keep trying to stir up. Whether it’s public vs. private sector workers, or Baby Boomers vs. Gen X/Y, etc. We need to focus on those who have destroyed our job base, destroyed our currency, and caused the tremendous wealth/income disparity that is turning us into a Third World nation.
(Hint: it’s not the public sector workers, nor is it the Baby boomers.)
What IS broke is our capability of creating decent paying jobs.”
Ummm…
I hate to go technical on the political points you were trying to score, but isn’t SS funded out of a flat payroll tax on earnings up to the SS wage base? No decent paying jobs, not enough payroll taxes to fund future entitlement payments.
A mass layoff involves at least 50 workers from a single employer.
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
The number of mass layoffs in July rose 3 percent over the month prior and involved 145,000 U.S. workers, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
That figure is up 2 percent year over year, according to the data released Tuesday.
In July, there were 1,579 seasonally adjusted mass layoffs nationwide, 47 more than occurred in June, according to the agency. If the figures are not seasonally adjusted the BLS found the number of mass layoffs in July was 2,176 and involved 216,774 workers.
California experienced the highest number of mass layoffs in July, according to BLS. The state’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate reached a high of 12 percent in July, second only to Nevada. Other states with large numbers of July mass layoffs were New York, Michigan and Florida.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Laid-off workers and aging baby boomers are flooding Social Security’s disability program with benefit claims, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency.
Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people with disabilities lose their jobs and can’t find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.
The stampede for benefits is adding to a growing backlog of applicants — many wait two years or more before their cases are resolved — and worsening the financial problems of a program that’s been running in the red for years.
New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security’s much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry, too, leaving it unable to pay full benefits as well.
Much of the focus in Washington has been on fixing Social Security’s retirement system. Proposals range from raising the retirement age to means-testing benefits for wealthy retirees. But the disability system is in much worse shape and its problems defy easy solutions.
The trustees who oversee Social Security are urging Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994. If Congress does not act, the disability program will collect only enough payroll taxes to pay about 85 percent of benefits after the trust fund is exhausted in 2017.
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They neglect to point out that when women were entering the work force wages were rising and the middle class was expanding.
Now any increase in labor costs will immediately be squelched with outsourcing to slave labor states. There will be absolutely no recovery because of this alone. I mean we can’t even employ the people we have now.
Every effort will be made to avoid going to the Despair Stage of Grief. There is still some Denial and very much Bargaining. It is the national mood. Rumblings of the White House wanting to throw another Trillion at paving over roads and such. Classic Bargaining, as in we’ll do anything just to make this go away, but we don’t have a clue. It isn’t going to stop the inevitable.
Capitulation is the transition from Depression into Acceptance.
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-08-31 06:41:44
I don’t think we’re there yet.
Comment by Insurance Guy
2011-08-31 07:42:46
This is spot on. The emotion is building that this is not going to work out.
You can here it when Bernanke complains that Congress should stimulate the economy at the same time as reducing the deficit. Obama spends months on cutting spending and then gives all the saving away proposing cuts in taxes. He will come up with a new one next week.
Cutting the payroll taxes for social security is just insane.
Bob McCormick - He reminds me of Bob Brinker (KABC - former show “Money Talk”). Both patronize their paycheck master sponsors. An agenda is sold as objectivity.
Chris Thornberg is now bought and sold, imho. He reminds me of his UCLA Anderson self these days, as opposed to when he first started Beacon Economics.
“I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.”
Most of the financial pimps publish a newsletter for consumption by their paid subscribers, and few if any of them suggest a bottom in housing prices is near. In the MSM they are called upon to lie…just like our country’s presidents.
One doesn’t need a college degree to see where all of this is headed. A cursory observation of the aging populace, the obese youth, the number of wild-eyed street people, garbage and graffiti everywhere, everything made somewhere else, high debt levels and low wages, for lease or rent signs everywhere, etc., suggest that the next decade is certain to be serious trouble for those interested in the GDP. One has to wonder if the historians will get it right several decades from now.
obese youth, the number of wild-eyed street people, garbage and graffiti everywhere, everything made somewhere else, high debt levels and low wages, for lease or rent signs everywhere, etc., suggest that the next decade is certain to be serious trouble
Sounds like life in Idiocracy, coming soon to a theater city near you!
“Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.”
Is it possible we have a bottom of sorts if all of the houses that will never sell again are excluded? Please note that even if we exclude all of those houses, I still think there will be declines among the rest.
Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.
What these word-gushers are overlooking is the comparison between MOM (going up for three straight months — woo-hoo!) and YOY (still headed down — awww, bummer!). I’ll betcha money that they don’t understand the difference between the two.
Spring was kind to home prices, but future isn’t bright
By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY
U.S. home prices rose 3.6% in the second quarter from the first, boosted by the spring buying season. But prices are expected to retreat this fall because of the struggling economy.
Even though prices rose quarter to quarter, they remain 5.9% below where they were last year, putting second-quarter U.S. home prices at 2003 levels, according to the Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller home price index released Tuesday.
The spring increase was widely expected, given long-standing buying patterns. When adjusted for seasonal factors, U.S. home prices in the second quarter were basically flat with the quarter before, the data show.
The fall outlook is grimmer, economists say, following shocks to consumer confidence stemming from the U.S. and European debt crises, U.S. stock market turmoil, high unemployment and anemic job growth. Consumer confidence tanked in August to its lowest level in two years, The Conference Board said Tuesday.
The drumbeat of bad economic news “increases the number of (home buyers) who’ll sit on the fence,” says Stan Humphries, chief economist for real estate website Zillow.
Signals are already pointing to weak numbers. Pending home sales slipped 1.3% in July from June, the National Association of Realtors reported this week. Existing home sales in July also slipped from June levels. For the week ending Aug. 19, the latest data available, applications for mortgages to buy homes fell to a 15-year-low, despite some of the lowest mortgage rates in decades, the Mortgage Bankers Association says.
Even before recent economic events, many economists expected home prices to continue to fall for much of this year. Zillow doesn’t expect prices to bottom nationally until 2012. Now, even that prediction may be too optimistic, Humphries says.
Wealthy Use Auctions to Sell Mansions After Price Cuts Fail
Bloomberg
David Sandwith has been trying to unload his seven-bedroom house on Mercer Island, Washington, since 2009, listing it first for $32 million, then cutting the price to $28.8 million last year. After not receiving any acceptable offers, he’s putting it up for auction.
“I have a growing family and I have opportunities that I want to pursue in my life, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that I will be located here in the greater Northwest,” Sandwith, 41, said in a telephone interview. “The time is right for us to sell the home.”
Real estate auctions, long used in the sale of foreclosed properties, are becoming more popular among wealthy homeowners to drum up interest for mansions that have languished on the market after the housing crash. In exchange for a quicker sale, many sellers are accepting price cuts of 50 percent or more.
Sandwith, a father of four who retired in 2007 after selling a family company, hired Gadsden, Alabama-based J.P. King Auction Co. to find a buyer for his 14,000-square-foot (1,300- square-meter) waterfront property. The sale, to be held today, doesn’t have an opening bid. The reserve auction will allow Sandwith to decline any offer he doesn’t deem high enough.
Mega-Mansions
“While our bread and butter are auctions for homes between $3 million and $8 million, calls for these mega-mansions have doubled this year,” said Caley King Newberry, a J.P. King spokeswoman. “Many didn’t have to sell when they wanted to in 2008 and 2009 because they had the holding power, but now they’ve decided it’s time to move on with their lives.”
At a J.P. King competitor, Grand Estates Auction Co., only about 12 percent of auctions are the result of financial distress, said Stacy Kirk Reich, president of the Charlotte, North Carolina-based company. The number of buyers has risen 130 percent since 2006, she said.
“Sellers will come to us for various reasons, maybe the death of a loved one or a divorce, but most frequently because they are reallocating wealth to other locations,” said Kirk Reich, whose company specializes in auctions of properties valued at $1.5 million to $10 million.
The company gets an average of 276 inquiries per listing and 16 bidders per auction.
Home-Price Decline
Homeowners are seeking new methods for selling their properties as the U.S. economy shows signs of sputtering. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index has declined 6.4 percent in August, poised for its fourth straight month of losses. Morgan Stanley said on Aug. 18 that the U.S. and Europe are “dangerously close” to recession. The S&P/Case-Shiller index, a gauge of home prices in 20 U.S. cities, fell 4.5 percent in June from a year earlier, according to a report today.
The number of sales at Premiere Estates Auction Co., which sells luxury properties, rose 30 percent last year, said Anthony Fitzgerald, a broker with the Manhattan Beach, California-based company. He wouldn’t say how many homes the company sold. The gain is likely to be exceeded this year, he said.
“The actual dollar amount of homes auctioned off has also increased by about that much,” Fitzgerald said. “It means there are more auctions but there are also more high-end auctions. I think it’s fair to say that we’ve seen a 100 percent increase in opening bid prices.”
$22 Million
Premiere Estates is preparing the sale of a Malibu, California, beach estate owned by William Chadwick, a managing director at investment bank Chadwick Saylor & Co. The minimum bid is $22 million. With an original listing price of $65 million in 2008, it is the highest-priced home ever to go to auction, according to Fitzgerald.
At an open house in early August, about a dozen people at a time walked through the 10,500-square-foot, nine-and-a-half bathroom estate, which has five fireplaces, an ocean-view gym, a $1.5 million home theater with leather recliners, and a 75-foot (23-meter) lap pool on a 4,500-square-foot patio.
The home sits on “Billionaire Beach,” a stretch of Malibu officially known as Carbon Beach, where Jeffrey Katzenberg, chief executive officer of DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc., and Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), also have homes.
The home, which Chadwick built in 2005, is assessed at $6.08 million and the land at $2.45 million, according to public records. Chadwick bought the property from Pepperdine University in 2002 for $2 million, according to the Los Angeles County assessor’s office. The $22 million starting bid at the auction is based on recent sales of comparable properties in the area, Fitzgerald said.
“David Sandwith has been trying to unload his seven-bedroom house on Mercer Island, Washington, since 2009, listing it first for $32 million, then cutting the price to $28.8 million last year. After not receiving any acceptable offers, he’s putting it up for auction.”
The sales strategies of ‘cutting the price’ and ‘auction’ are not mutually exclusive, as suggested by this article. Their intersection is ‘Dutch auction,’ where the seller starts out with a list price above market value (like Mr Sandwith apparently did) then reduces the price until a buyer is forthcoming (like Mr Sandith apparently didn’t).
No-reserve-price English auctions are another guaranteed way to quickly unload a mansion which refuses to sell and to discover its true market value in the process.
“Retired at 40, Mr. Sandwith had an ownership stake in Mikron, a manufacturer of window and door components started by his father that sold in 2004 for about $205 million. Usually attired in jeans or shorts, Mr. Sandwith devotes much of his time to coaching his kids’ sports teams and volunteering at their schools. He said selling the house would give his family the flexibility to afford other experiences, like traveling the world.
“Clearly if there was significantly less money invested in the home and it was still the home that we wanted, it would make more sense to be able to do both,” he said. “I just wouldn’t be comfortable being able to [travel] and at the same time hold on to an asset like that.”
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“High school sweethearts from the area, the Sandwiths long wanted to own on Lake Washington. In 2004, after searching for a year and a half, the couple purchased a waterfront lot for $5.38 million and came up with a $12.5 million construction budget that Mr. Sandwith said he now wishes had been more comprehensive. They also purchased a 4,600-square-foot home nearby to live in while they waited.
Mr. Sandwith said it quickly became apparent that the project would take longer than the planned 2.5 years because of his high standards. After an entry had been framed, he decided to make it taller, so people would see more of the view; finding the right stone for the home’s exterior took months. Lengthy permitting processes for work such as replacing a basalt bulkhead with wade-in beaches also slowed things down. (A controversial plan to build an indoor gym was scrapped because they decided to sell.) “
How much you want to bet they will have reserves, or shadow bidders at the auction? A can’t imagine he’d sit back and let the house go for… say… $15 million, or 50% off his initial list price.
This is just more gimmick to attempt to create urgency…. The house is selling today, so if you want it, better buy it today! Bull.
Why do I suspect that Mr. Sandwith is less interested in “unloading” the house than in adding significantly to his already considerable wealth by finding a sucker who will pay his inflated asking price?
Another interesting part of this article is the fact that he got so wealthy by selling a family company. I am curious about the fate of that business. Has it been dismantled, its former employees out of jobs? Did Mr. Sandwith personally run the company, or did he inherit it, only to make a big profit on the sale, and retire at age 37? I have two friends who run family businesses and they are both highly invested in running and improving their companies. They both employ highly skilled (and well paid) workers. I find it kind of sad that this guy took the easy way out of a business that one or more family members probably built up with years of their own sweat. And now he’s too pigheaded to price his house reasonably. Some businessman.
U.S. Bancorp, one of the nation’s biggest banks, became the latest large financial firm to sue Bank of America, filing a lawsuit over $1.75 billion of mortgage loans on Monday on behalf of investors of the loans.
Acting as trustee of a trust that included 4,400 mortgage loans originated by Bank of America’s Countrywide unit, U.S. Bancorp claims Bank of America, the biggest bank in the U.S., must repurchase loans in the mortgage pool because Countrywide had agreed to do so if it misled investors about the quality of the loans.
“The Trustee seeks to compel Countrywide, and Bank of America as its successor-in-interest, to specifically perform their obligation to repurchase all of the loans that the Trustee has submitted as breaching loans,” the lawsuit filed in New York state court in Manhattan says.
I see the prospect of banks cannibalizing other banks as a promising sign, as such stories suggest that perhaps current and future generations of U.S. taxpayers are not being forced to help sweeten the deals with bailout money.
Of course, it is also possible that there are hidden deal-sweetener bailouts in play which are not mentioned in the article…
I am thinking that BoA bought Countrywide as part of a back room deal brokered between Fed and Treasury and BoA. I think the tax payer is on the hook for bailing BoA of all these losses whether it is made public or not.
And Prez Scary Barry is a communist, muslim, african, indonesian, boogeyman intent on singlehandedly destroying Amerikwa. Hide the children, lock up the livestock, and keep your Bible close at hand!
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Applications for U.S. home mortgages tumbled last week as demand for refinancing sagged for the second week in a row, an industry group said on Wednesday.
The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted index of mortgage application activity, which includes both refinancing and home purchase demand, dropped 9.6 percent in the week ended Aug 26.
The MBA’s seasonally adjusted index of refinancing applications slumped 12.2 percent, while the gauge of loan requests for home purchases edged up 0.9 percent after setting a 15-year low set the week before.
“Refinance application volume declined for a second week from recent highs, despite rates staying near a 10-month low, while purchase volume remained near 15-year lows,” Mike Fratantoni, MBA’s vice president of research and economics, said in a statement.
The refinance share of mortgage activity decreased to 77.8 percent of total applications from 79.8 percent.
Standard 1955 split level 4/1.5 split level. Pretty nice, actually. Good yard, middle-class kitchen, good commuter location. Obviously lived in and cared for by normal people.
Mar 1989: Sold $152K
May 2011: Listed $299K
Aug 2011: Listed $279K <— SERIOUS SELLER! sez the listing.
(but that’s an early 2004-era price.)
However, if a house like this is $279K (I’d lowball for $230K), then why are those half-trashed illegal-bedroom baby ramblers listing for $240K or so? They should be 100K less.
It’s not a trainwreck disaster, just a colonial-style with bad taste in proportion. 1986 5/3 with rooms that are just too big, squeezed onto a 0.1 acre lot. I can’t figure out if there’s a front door. Guests are obviously meant to enter through the garage. I like the layout of the kitchen but that’s about it. The skeeter-infested pond and “glorious” gardens look like part of the development, so be sure to bring an HOA fee to the PITI party.
Jun 2001: Sold $268K
Jan 2005: Sold $485K
Oct 2010: Listed $540K
chase market down to
Aug 2011: Listed $399K <— probably worth about $350K.
The skeeter-infested pond and “glorious” gardens look like part of the development, so be sure to bring an HOA fee to the PITI party.
There once was an evil King Barry
And his goons Joey and Nancy and Harry
With the subjects distraught
Though the difference was nought
They replaced him with evil King Perry
The second could be ok with some minor changes to the outside. Either contrasting paint colors, or a different accent material (stone, brick) to break up the monotony.
It has a front door (pic #2 & #3) but the porch is horrible. Redoing that where the stairs come off the front, and the sidewalk rounds around to the driveway could be a fun and only moderately expensive project (could also be DIY).
Covering the porch would improve the look architecturally as well, but you would need a triangle shaped porch cover for it to look good, which would probably mean decreasing the size of the window above. If it’s an egress window, that’s a no go.
In any case, the lot seems very large to me, and the price seems somewhat legitimate.
Not an egress window, just a window to allow light into the open entryway. I think it’s pointless to add large normal windows if you can’t open your high windows for ventillation, but that’s just my opinion.
I think the problems are there are no roof eaves, and they were so intent on a two-story family room that the side wing is too tall. Even a porch will not bring that into proportion.
I believe the large yard is HOA space and the house itself only comes with 0.1 acre. The property ends before the wooden fence — it’s a little more apparent from the satellite map.
I’m actually rather surprised at the low price, considering that there is an entire full kitchen in the basement. However, the house is pretty far out from the city. Still, I would far rather live with this house than chose something farther west, off route 270 (the daily parking lot).
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The number of planned layoffs at U.S. firms declined 23 percent in August after rising for three straight months, with the government sector again leading the job cuts, a report showed on Wednesday.
Employers announced 51,114 planned job cuts, down from 66,414 in July, according to the report from consultants Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc. Planned cuts in July had marked a 16-month high.
“In August, the private sector once again took a backseat to the government sector, which saw job cuts surge to the second highest monthly total this year,” John Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, said in a statement.
But July’s planned job cuts were up 47 percent from August 2010, when they were at 34,768. For 2011 so far, employers have announced 363,334 cuts, somewhat better than the 374,121 cuts announced in the first eight months of 2010.
More job cuts are expected at the federal government level with pressure to cut the federal budget, the report said.
Cuts in the government sector accounted for 18,426 of the announced layoffs in August, and 105,406 for the year so far.
“Meanwhile, the private sector is still being hampered by low consumer and business spending. While we do not see any indication of a sudden resurgence in private-sector job cuts, conditions definitely are not ideal for hiring,” said Challenger.
AT&T to bring 5,000 jobs to US if T-Mobile bid OKd
“NEW YORK -(MarketWatch)-
AT&T said it will bring 5,000 wireless call-center jobs it has outsourced abroad back to the U.S. if its proposed $39 billion deal to buy Deutsche Telekom AG’s /quotes/zigman/169382 DTEGY -1.43% T-Mobile USA is approved by regulators.
Late Tuesday, AT&T said it would add the jobs after the deal closes and promised not to cut any more wireless call-center positions. The move is contingent on the U.S. Federal Communications Commission and Department of Justice approving the takeover, company spokesman Brad Burns said in an email. ”
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Give us a near-monopoly, and we promise to bring back jobs? Is it just me, or is this is frekin’ MOBSTER BLACKMAIL?
The comments to this article had the exact same impression I did — this is a dangerous precedent.
And I’d be stunned if they actually bring back the jobs. Or, they’ll bring them back for a year, and then re-outsource them anyway. Or hire 5000 and outsource 10000 later. C’mon, federal regulators… do the right thing…
So what is the “right thing” for the regulators to do? Should we legislate by regulation as Congress defaults? Should we say no just to spite our face?
Unfortunately, senators and representatives have concluded that their primary, overriding mission is to collect enough “campaign contributions” to assure their re-election. This mission consumes pretty much 100% of their non-sleeping hours.
How about a penalty tax for all outsourced jobs ,or for building a plant in another Country .
It isn;t the responsibility of the USA to make American Corporations richer by playing the Worlds systems .
Why should we pay these clowns for providing jobs . Should be a penalty for not providing jobs . They use the intrastructures provided by tax dollars for commerce .
Government shouldn’t just be the pawn of Big Business paying for everything that helps business .
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Comment by ecofeco
2011-08-31 08:57:01
How just ending the tax breaks they get for sending those jobs overseas?
In my state the gov just handed 650k grant to a company as a grant to pay for a rail line to the company. The company promised to this would lead to a creation of jobs. My guess is that this will be offset by a destruction of jobs loading and unloading product at the company and rail station from trucks.
I’m all for the company building the rail line just not on the tax payer dime.
The company donated 10k to the gov, I’d say that’s a sweet return.
“In a statement today on AT&T’s announcement of 5,000 new jobs, AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka touted the move, saying that it’s what’s needed in today’s struggling economy. “These jobs will provide quality wages and benefits and good working conditions for U.S. workers–exactly what’s needed to help turn around our struggling economy,” Trumka said.”
Through his willingness to throw U.S. cell phone users under the bus in return for 5000 jobs that should and could be brought back to the U.S. anyway, how is AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka any better than a Nazi collaborator?
That description is a little too far, IMO. But I admit I was surprised at Trumka selling out for 5000 jobs. AT&T would probably lay off another 10000 more during this merger.
However, it looks like the gov isn’t buying it:
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The Justice Department on Wednesday sued to block AT&T’s planned $39 billion of acquisition of T-Mobile USA, which would concentrate 80% of the mobile phone market between two competitors.
The Justice Department said the deal if completed would reduce competition and raise prices. Deputy Attorney-General James Cole said price, quality and innovation would be diminished if the deal went through. He noted the two companies compete in 97 of the 100 top markets.
…The suit doesn’t mean the deal is dead.
“I think the government is simply saying this deal, the way it is structured will not be approved. So AT&T must change the structure and they will. They will reintroduce this deal and it will be under consideration again,” said Jeff Kagan, an independent telecom analyst.
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How do you “restructure” a merger deal? You only buy half of it now and half later? If i were Justice, I would be so insulted by the jobs blackmail that I would block any deal and sue them for bribery on top of it.
Agreed. It was more in the sense that corporations such as AT&T have collectively killed millions of American jobs.
Getting back 5000, even assuming none are lost as a result of a merger, is chump change. That’s not exactly driving a hard bargain. And considering the harm that would be done to consumers if the merger were to to through, it’s a horrible deal.
Tripoli divided as rebels jostle over power
msnbc | 8/31/2011 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and ROD NORDLAND/NY Times
Fighters from the western mountain city of Zintan control the airport. The fighters from Misurata guard the central bank, the port and the prime minister’s office, where their graffiti has relabeled the historic plaza “Misurata Square.” Berbers from the mountain town Yafran took charge of the city’s central square, where they spray-painted “Yafran Revolutionaries.”
A week after rebels broke into Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s former stronghold, much of its territory remains divided into fiefs, each controlled by quasi-independent brigades representing different geographic areas of the country. And the spray paint they use to mark their territory tells the story of a looming leadership crisis in the capital, Tripoli.
The top civilian officials of the Libyan rebels’ Transitional National Council — now styling itself as a provisional government to be based in the capital — are yet to arrive, citing personal safety concerns even as they pronounce the city fully secure.
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Several liberals among the rebel leadership council complained privately that Mr. Hasadi had been a leader of the disbanded Libyan Islamist Fighting Group, which rebelled against Colonel Qaddafi in the 1990s. Some said they feared it was the first step in an attempt at an Islamist takeover. They noted that Mr. Hasadi was named commander by the five battalions of the so-called Tripoli Brigade, rather than by any civilian authority. And they complained about the perceived influence of Qatar, which helped train and equip the Tripoli Brigade and also finances Al Jazeera.
We were involved and I think we will find out that the intense bombing that occurred during the last few months was because the U.S. came back into the combat and was not just involved in logistical support.
They are split by tribes and nominally united by Islam. As I have said on this blog numerous times, democracy just is not possible in the Middle East. Any policy that tries to promote democracy in the region, until they turn from Islam, just is a waste of money and sometimes blood. The rulers that are falling tried to create a united Arab identity and this was actually good for Christians in the region. It is unfortunate, that they turned into such dictators but only strong man prosper in that region. People like the Shah advanced woman’s rights, education and broke the power of the mullahs but they came back and Iran has gone backwards since his fall, both economically and socially.
Successful U.S. presidents have just focused on keeping the oil flowing and the ones that have tried to promote democracy have left failures. Right now, the oil is not flowing from Libya so that is costing us $400 million per day since the price of oil is about $20 a barrel higher than it would be if the flow of oil had continued. That is the real cost of the war, actually if you count the impact on the rest of the world including Europe, it is much higher.
‘It’s not clear what we’ve “won” in Libya. But it is clear what we’ve lost: Whatever’s left of the quaint notions that America should wage war only in defense of our vital interests and that presidential uses of military force can and should be constrained by law.’
‘Last week brought some Twitter triumphalism from the Center for American Progress linking to House Speaker John’ Boehner’s June complaint that the president had violated the War Powers Act. CAP demanded: “Does John Boehner still believe U.S. military operations in Libya are illegal?”
‘Why shouldn’t he? After all, that’s what the president’s own attorney general believes. Obama’s Office of Legal Counsel, backed by Attorney General Eric Holder, told Obama in May that under the War Powers Resolution, he needed congressional authorization to continue bombing Libya after the WPR’s time limit expired.’
‘That wasn’t what the president wanted to hear, so he got a second opinion from Harold Koh, the servile State Department legal adviser, who argued that we weren’t engaged in “hostilities” under the WPR because Gadhafi couldn’t effectively return fire.’
‘It was a law professor’s version of a “Jedi mind trick”
‘Has it occurred to anyone in Obama’s cheering section that the Koh precedent will be available for use by future presidents? And that they might come to rue embracing the argument that it’s perfectly legal for the president to, Zeus-like, rain down destruction from on high wherever he chooses, without so much as a by-your-leave to Congress?’
“With Libyan rebels apparently engaged in reprisal attacks against Gadhafi loyalists — “the worst treatment,” the Washington Post reported Friday, “appeared to be reserved for anyone with black skin”
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2011-08-31 08:20:36
I agree with you on that point and it is ironic that the liberal law professor president is the one that has ended any check on a president to wage war. The next generation of weapons will be even more automated and man like robot soldiers are not far from a reality so under the Obama precedent, I can see presidents having much more options to wage war.
Comment by The_Overdog
2011-08-31 09:27:38
It’s also ironic that the guy who campaigned on ending war, could have raised a ‘mission accomplished!’ banner legitimately and hightailed it out, but instead keeps it going and starts more wars!
The leading Repub candiate has already made noise about brandishing the military to protect our freedom, so can’t use the power of the vote there (either).
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-31 10:00:24
“……constrained by law…..”
Waste of time discussing this. That ship sailed a long time ago.
What you need to do is elect people who aren’t going to go on military misadventures to begin with.
Remember part of the excuse for invading any Middle East country? That a cutoff of oil will “devastate the economy”
Well, guess what? The money pi$$ed away to keep the oil flowing has devastated the economy anyway.
The good news is the people who said we were only fighting for “cheap oil” have been discredited.
Comment by Steve J
2011-08-31 10:01:31
The drone aircraft are not flown by uniformed military personel. After all, it’s not war if the military is not involved.
Comment by Elanor
2011-08-31 10:45:56
X-GS, I’ll bet that most of those who voted for Obama never suspected that he would embark on any military misadventures. Fool me once, shame on you, etc etc.
Comment by Max Power
2011-08-31 13:08:44
“X-GS, I’ll bet that most of those who voted for Obama never suspected that he would embark on any military misadventures.”
So vote for a candidate who’s words are consistent with his actions and voting record. If ending military misadventures is important to you, the candidate far and away most likely to successfully do so is Ron Paul.
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-31 14:40:05
Obama inherited Afghanistan and Iraq.
Our involvement in Libya was minimal, at least as far as “boots on the ground” is concerned.
So, two were going before he got into office, and WE got dragged into Libya because of our “alligator mouth/hummingbird ass NATO-so-called-”allies”, who have been able to cover that deal, but evidently only budgeted for about 3 days worth of smart bombs. (I exaggerate, but not by much)
Are you suggesting he played no role while he was in Congress?
Comment by evildocs
2011-08-31 21:55:49
—Obama inherited Afghanistan and Iraq.—
Really, inheritance is not something for which one volunteers. When one asks for something, as Obie did, he needs embrace it. If he wasn’t up to dealing with it, he should not have asked for that responsibility.
BTW, while the MSM is reporting a build of oil today, the actual truth is another 4.8 million barrels of oil came out of the SPR. If you added up all the changes in stocks, we have 400,000 less barrels of oil in storage this week than last. Not a significant decline but the decline has been going on for a number of week. I don’t think we are taking more out of the SPR than has been announced, it just has taken longer to remove the 30 million barrels than the MSM had reported, but I do not know that for sure, I will continue to monitor the EIA website to see if we exceed 30 million barrels.
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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-31 14:43:22
I gotta idea. Call it the “Nigerian Plan”
Rent a deep water drilling rig. Put it in international waters.
Slant drill into the SPR.
As long as you don’t get greedy, nobody will miss it.
The Associated Press August 30, 2011, 6:49AM ET
Consumer confidence expected to drop in August
By ANNE D’INNOCENZIO
NEW YORK
Consumer confidence likely dropped in August as worries about the economy fueled the widest stock market swings since the financial meltdown in 2008.
The souring mood raises concerns about shoppers’ ability to spend during the critical back-to-school season.
Economists surveyed by FactSet expect that the Conference Board, a private research group, will report Tuesday that consumer confidence fell to 53.3 this month, down from 59.5 in July. That would be its lowest point since October 2010, when confidence was at 49.9. The July reading was up slightly after two months of declines.
The index measures how shoppers feel about business conditions, the job market and the next six months. It had been recovering fitfully since hitting an all-time low of 25.3 in February 2009.
A reading above 90 indicates the economy is on solid footing; above 100 signals strong growth. Economists watch the number closely because consumer spending including major items like health care, accounts for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity.
The report is expected at 10 a.m. EDT.
“Consumers are realizing that economic conditions are not likely to get a whole lot better soon,” said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wells Fargo Bank.
With the nation’s unemployment rate stuck at 9 percent and home values still weak, there’s not much to be confident about, he said. Shoppers also face rising costs for everything from food to gas, and they’re paying more this fall for clothing as merchants make up for higher labor costs in China and a spike in raw materials costs.
The Conference Board index — based on a random survey of consumers sent to 5,000 households from Aug. 1 to Aug. 18 — captured the wildest week on Wall Street since the financial crisis in 2008.
Four days into the survey period, on Aug. 5, Standard & Poor downgraded the U.S. federal debt and concern revived about the health of European banks. The Dow Jones industrial average had four 400-point swings in a row for the first time in its 115-year history during the week that ended Aug. 12.
The Dow Jones industrial average has fallen 9.3 percent since its recent peak on July 21. It is down 0.3 percent for the year. Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index has fallen 10 percent since July 21 and remains down 3.8 percent for the year.
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The mood among U.S. consumers plummeted in August, perhaps as a consequence of the debt-ceiling debate in Washington, according to a report released Tuesday.
The Conference Board, a private research group, said its index of consumer confidence dropped to 44.5 this month, from a revised 59.2 in July, first reported as 59.5.
The August reading is the lowest since April 2009 and was far worse than the 52.0 expected by economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires.
The mood among U.S. consumers plummeted in August, perhaps as a consequence of the debt-ceiling debate in Washington. Kathleen Madigan has details on Lunch Break.
Consumer expectations for economic activity over the next six months plunged to 51.9 from a revised 74.9, originally reported as 75.4.
The present situation index, a gauge of consumers’ assessment of current economic conditions, slipped to 33.3 from an unrevised 35.7.
Lynn Franco, director of the Conference Board Consumer Research Center, said a contributing factor to the decline “may have been the debt-ceiling discussions since the decline in confidence was well underway before the S&P downgrade” of U.S. Treasury debt.
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NEW YORK, Aug 30 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer confidence
plunged in August to its lowest since the 2007-2009 recession,
after a bruising battle over the U.S. budget slammed stock
prices and pushed the nation to the brink of default.
Tuesday’s data kept alive concerns the United States could
slide back into recession, spurring investors to buy government
bonds on bets the Federal Reserve would try harder to push down
borrowing costs.
The private-sector Conference Board said its index of
consumer attitudes sank to 44.5, from a downwardly revised 59.2
in July. The August reading was the weakest since April 2009,
when the country still languished in recession, while the drop
was the largest since October 2008.
“What we are effectively going through is a crisis of
confidence,” said Tom Porcelli, an economist at RBC Capital
Markets in New York.
Economists had expected a much-less-pronounced decline.
… RIM SHOT!
“What we are effectively going through is a crisis of
confidence,”
BS. What we are effectively going through is a crisis of goods and services. Problem is, IMO goods and services have an upper limit of about 6% profit per year. The Wall Street yahoos want 11% profit, 12% next year, and the based their borrowing and swaps on that. Now that they have run out of fat to cut and employees to screw and outsourcing to do, they are out of options and their brains shut off and they resort to feelings and ego trips.
Several companies have run into problems with the big call centers in the deep South of the USA ,many folks just cannot understand the Southern twang or drawl ,or whatever you call it . This runs across all ethnic groups , and is a problem the Companies will not admit , they just move the centers off someplace where it is cold in winters.
Many years ago Candid Camera did a segment where southerners were shown a box of All detergent and a can of motor oil. They were asked what each item was. The two answers were indistinguishable, and came out as something like “awl.”
When we were in the process of moving here I stopped at a small, local shop to buy something, and I still remember how hard it was to understand what the young woman was trying to say to me.
My wife visited a friend of hers in South Carolia. Had a heck of a time figuring out what bold peanuts were. You know, you put them in some bowling water for a few minutes. Bowling water?
Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — Standard & Poor’s is giving a higher rating to securities backed by subprime home loans, the same type of investments that led to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, than it assigns the U.S. government.
S&P is poised to provide AAA grades to 59 percent of Springleaf Mortgage Loan Trust 2011-1, a set of bonds tied to $497 million lent to homeowners with below-average credit scores and almost no equity in their properties. New York-based S&P stripped the U.S. of its top rank on Aug. 5, saying Washington politics were making the country less creditworthy.
Treasuries gained about 1.95 percent and U.S. borrowing costs have fallen to record lows as investors repudiated the downgrade, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch indexes. S&P has awarded AAAs to more than $36 billion of securities in the U.S. this year that were created by bankers who continue to gather thousands of loans, bundle them into bonds of varying risk and pay ratings firms a fee to assign credit rankings.
“Everybody has been led to believe over the years that AAA means AAA means AAA across the board,” Gregory W. Smith, the general counsel for the $41 billion Public Employees’ Retirement Association of Colorado, said in a telephone interview on Aug. 24. “Anybody that didn’t learn in the 2008 crisis that doesn’t apply should find another line of work.”
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You would think subprime was dead and buried. No, the Justice Dept. has a group that makes sure banks are providing mortgage loans to subprime borrowers, and putting pressure on banks that they deem as not doing enough such lending. (Article in today’s WSJ)
Sub-prime itself was not the problem. If the loans are given on houses that are near their fundamental value in terms of price/rent, and if the income supports repaying the loan, then I’m less concerned than I was when houses were selling for 2x rent and little to no income verification was being done.
Let’s say the condo down the street from me, that would rent for $500 a month, is being sold for $25K plus $200 a month Condo fee.
Is there really a huge risk just because they have suck credit score if we’re selling it someone with a solid $1500 a month income?
Sure, if house prices again begin to detach from fundamentals, then we should pull back on sup-prime. Sure, in areas where house prices have not return to fundamental price/rent stability levels, we should not be doing large numbers of sub-prime loans.
However, in places where prices are at fundamental level or in overcorrection phase, I see no problem with subprime loans.
Agreed. If interest rates were a little higher, I’d lend money to anyone secured by residential real estate as long as that property would cash flow as a rental at the amount that I’m financing. I’d like to see proof of some kind of income as well and at least a nominal down payment so I can have some assurance that they won’t first payment default, but as long as the purchase price is appropriate, I’ll loan my money all day at 3.5% down and payments at 50% of monthly income or less. AZ is a trustee sale state and I know worst case scenario is I have to wait 90 days for the trustee sale to occur. And the 3.5% down payment should ensure I at least break even after this process is complete.
Again, this all hinges on fundamentally supported purchase prices.
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — Bond investors are backing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s forecast that the U.S. will avoid another recession.
The economy has never contracted with the difference between 10- and 30-year Treasury yields as wide as the current 1.34 percentage points, or 134 basis points, since the so-called long bond was first issued in 1977. The gap, which is more than double the 49 basis-point average of the past 20 years, has ranged from negative 56 to positive 41.9 at the start of the last five recessions, beginning in January 1980.
While reports this month showed manufacturing dropped to a two-year low and the worst consumer confidence since November 2008, investors say the Fed’s pledge to keep interest rates near zero until mid-2013 will underpin growth. The Commerce Department may say today that personal spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy, rose 0.5 percent in July, above the 0.3 percent average since 2000, according to the median of more than 60 estimates in a Bloomberg News survey.
“There is a lot of fear, but U.S. growth is not dead,” Andrew Richman, who oversees $10 billion as a strategist in Palm Beach, Florida, for SunTrust Bank’s private wealth management division, said in an Aug. 26 interview.
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This “growth” thing is funny. I guess when people pay more for things (even though their wages haven’t gone up), it’s supposed to be a good thing. Don’t know why that is, but everyone celebrates when things get more expensive and our purchasing power is reduced thanks to all the games being played by the Fed.
I’d also be much happier with a *sustainable* economy, rather than a “growing” economy, if that growth is simply the result of prices getting higher.
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — Wall Street traders are demanding the biggest premiums to buy and sell credit in almost two years as they seek protections from market swings driven by Europe’s debt crisis and a slowing global economy.
A measure of the cost of trading credit-default swaps has tripled this month as prices gyrate the most in 13 months, according to data compiled by Bloomberg and CMA in London. Amid the volatility, the biggest bond dealers cut their holdings of corporate securities to $73.1 billion as of Aug. 17, the least since July 2009, Federal Reserve data show.
The surge underscores the fragility of credit markets three years after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. triggered the biggest corporate bond losses in at least 35 years. With junk-rated securities poised to lose the most this month since November 2008, banks and investors are bracing for broader declines on concern Europe’s fiscal imbalances will infect the banking system at a time when the economy may not be strong enough to withstand such headwinds.
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“… junk-rated securities poised to lose the most this month since November 2008 …”
Such them in, shake them out.
The yield-hungry were sucked in by the high yields offered by junk bonds and such and were led to believe via the annnouncements of the PTB’s MSM-mouthpieces that the economy was in recovery mode.
Now reality once again is raising its ugly head and these smucks have now been turned into panicked sellers.
Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) — Investors shouldn’t load up on financial bonds even after the worst declines in 30 months because home prices may drop further as the economy slows, said Seix Investment Advisors Inc. Chief Investment Officer Jim Keegan.
“It’s a little early,” said Keeegan, whose firm manages about $27 billion from Upper Saddle River, New Jersey, and reduced its bank bond holdings toward the end of the second quarter. “We’re in the process of re-examining our outlook on housing prices and may take that estimate down even further,” said Keegan, whose $729 million RidgeWorth Total Return Bond Fund has beaten 99 percent of its peers in the past month.
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Did Bernanke actually suggest more stimulus was on the way in his Jackson Hole speech, or is this merely an example of Fed cargo cult wishful thinking?
Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) — A benchmark gauge of U.S. corporate credit risk fell today, contributing toward the biggest two-day drop in more than eight months on speculation the Federal Reserve will enact more stimulus to safeguard the recovery.
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Homeplus, the nation’s second largest discount chain, announced yesterday that it will open what it calls a “fourth generation retail store,” Homeplus Smart Virtual Store, at Seolleung subway station in southern Seoul today…
“Consumers will be able to order and get delivery of 35,000 products, ranging from milk, egg, pasta sauce, gochujang [Korean red pepper paste], tissues and digital cameras, by simply pulling out their smartphones and scanning QR [Quick Response] or barcodes of products shown in the subway station with the Homeplus app,” Lee said.
[or you can order directly from the product bottle] “For example, if you want to order replacements of a bottle of water that you have in your hand, you don’t have to stop by the subway station,” Lee said. “You simply scan the bottle’s barcode with the Homeplus app.” The products are delivered later to home or office.”
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Gee, 150 years ago, people did much the same thing. You went to the General Store, pointed at what you wanted, and the clerk got it for you and wrapped it up, or delivered it later. You could even get a line of store credit.* The next innovation was cash-and-carry,** which saved time because you didn’t have to wait for the clerk. Here, the only “new” innovation I see is that they take your money faster, before you can change your mind.
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*Amazon does this today.
**As late as the 1970’s, stores had to put up a “cash and carry” sign to inform the elderly that it was a cash-and-carry store.
Isn’t this largely bringing a “just in time” supply system to the ordinary consumer? I use up the last of my milk on my cereal one morning and instead of going to the store on the way home, I scan the bar code on the milk carton before I thow it away?
I can see this as being OK if the following is true:
1) delivery charges are neglible
2) delivery is same day and very reliable
3) delivery time can be chosen in a very narrow window so that there is someone home to take care of perishables
4) the customer doesn’t care about shopping sales and/or using coupons
5) the customer doesn’t care about choosing his or her own items for produce
Somehow, I doubt that 1, 2, and 3 are true of the service. Some customers might fit in with 4 and 5, but I sure don’t. I can see it working for an emergency, but otherwise, I’m in the who cares category.
It also might work for people who buy a lot of heavy groceries but don’t have cars.
“Products will be delivered at a time chosen by consumers, and delivery fees will range from 1,000 won ($0.92) to 4,000 won depending on the hour of the day,” Sunny Jung, an official at Homeplus told the Korea JoongAng Daily. “A Homeplus store close to a customer’s address will deliver the products. Each store will make deliveries every two hours for a total of 10 times a day.”
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Probably too expensive for a single item like milk. It still sounds like an impulse buy gimmick.
People with heavy groceries take a cab home, or use a wheeled cart, or shop more than once a week.
ISTR that Webvan tried the same thing. And that was one of the biggest flops of the dotcom era.
BTW, one of its major funders was Louis Borders. Of recently failed bookstore fame.
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Comment by oxide
2011-08-31 15:35:04
In my area the local grocery store does online ordering and delivery. It’s expensive, like $15, but it’s probably good for shut-ins who only order food once a month or so.
Companies in the U.S. added 91,000 workers to payrolls in August, according to a private survey.
The increase followed a revised 109,000 gain the prior month, according to data from ADP Employer Services. The median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for an advance of 100,000.
The economy needs to generate more jobs on a sustained basis in order to bring down unemployment, which has been at 9 percent or higher in 25 of the past 27 months. A Labor Department report in two days is projected to show businesses added 100,000 jobs in August, down from a 154,000 increase in July, according to the median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg.
“The labor market continues to struggle,” Sean Incremona, a senior economist at 4Cast Inc. in New York, said before the report. “There is too much uncertainty that is restraining firms from committing resources to hiring.”
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That “uncertainty” is a lack of demand — the obvious result of the off-shoring of our jobs over the past 30 years, not to mention the income tax policies of the past decade that rewarded gambling over working (how in the world can anyone justify taxing cap gains and dividends at lower rates than labor???). Supposedly, as we lost our jobs, our ex-bosses were going to get richer…and this was supposed to rain down on the rest of us somehow.
“….Four years into the housing crisis, the real estate market is still teetering on the edge. The Obama administration has tried one program after another to stem the tide of foreclosures with limited success. And it is continuing….”
Yep, four years. And it will be another four years, and four years after that, if they continue with their idiotic attempts to artificially prop up housing prices.
The efforts to prop up the housing market by the administration have been half-hearted at best. Seriously. HAMP was voluntary, and the subsidy was a minimal, meant only to offset part of the cost of the paperwork. The new program (getting investors to buy the houses and rent them) is in such early planning stages that it doesn’t have a name and can’t possibly work without massive subsidies that the current Congress won’t approve. The “new” buyer tax credit is over and a lot of people who took it are already starting to regret it. If they leave those houses too soon, they will have to pay it back.
Other than that the only “programs” are that Fannie and Freddie and FHA and the VA still exist and the Fed keeping general interest rates down which by extension makes mortgage rates a bit cheaper.
Most of the “propping” up of prices is that people who can’t afford their houses are either not completely broke and therefore unwilling to sell at a loss (prices on large assets are sticky) or they are completely broke and the foreclosure apparatus hasn’t gotten around to them yet.
the foreclosure apparatus hasn’t gotten around to them yet.
The Foreclosure Apparatus.
Like a giant shredding Roomba, whirling blades on waving metal tentacles, 60 feet across, splintering houses and people as it lashes about, slowly crawling through neighborhoods.
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-08-31 12:50:45
Now, lavi, stop that! You’re making me laugh too hard.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch)– NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Twenty-five of the 100 firms that paid their CEOS the most last year paid those executives more than they paid in total taxes, according to a report published recently.
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57 years of house foreclosure inventory in the pipeline. No wonder prices haven’t crashed here yet. I am wondering how a situation like this can get resolved. Naturally, I would like to see this inventory spill out like the Johnstown flood. What is the cause for NY/NJ having such a gargantuan backlog?
New JoshuaTree Extension out which supports Firefox 6.0. In addition, Frontier has finally taken over web hosting from Verizon and it turns out they have their shit together. So you don’t have to right-click the link and save, but can simply click on it and it will install correctly (well, at least in FF6. I didn’t test this in 5.X).
Note that the link has changed - the old URL will simply redirect to this one:
I have thought about the proposal to let underwater home owners refinance their pre-bubble mortgages @ 4% and I think it would net-net be positive for the middle class, especially if the loans were transferable to future 1st. time buyers. That, along with cutting off the MID at $150k and closing loopholes on second home and investment RE properties would lop off 1-2 trillion in future revenue shortfalls in 10-15 years.
I am a so glad to see the Obama administration block the ATT T-mobil merger. We really don’t need a bigger ATT or Verizon. Mergers destroy jobs and concentrate wealth. (I’m a share holder too)
Except that lowering interest on those still paying provides less revenue to cover losses on those that are not. The breakeven would have to come from fewer people defaulting because of the lower payments caused by lower rates. I’m not so sure that will make much of a difference in the future foreclsoure number.
Solyndra to Declare Bankruptcy
By Scott McGrew Aug 31, 2011 | NBC Bay Area
Solyndra — recently touted as an innovator by President Obama — is reportedly shutting its doors. Employees are being turned away this morning.
Solyndra, a major manufacturer of solar technology in Fremont, has shut its doors, according to employees at the campus.
“I was told by a security guard to get my [stuff] and leave,” one employee said. The company employs a little more than 1,000 employees worldwide, according to its website.
Shortly after it opened a massive $700 million facility, it canceled plans for a public stock offering earlier this year and warned it would be in significant trouble if federal loan guarantees did not go through.
The company has said it will make a statement at 9am California time, though it’s not clear what that statement will be. An NBC Bay Area photographer on the scene reports security guards are not letting visitors on campus. He says “people are standing around in disbelief.” The employees have been given yellow envelopes with instructions on how to get their last checks.
Solyndra was touted by the Obama administration as a prime example of how green technology could deliver jobs. The President visited the facility in May of last year and said “it is just a testament to American ingenuity and dynamism and the fact that we continue to have the best universities in the world, the best technology in the world, and most importantly the best workers in the world. And you guys all represent that. ”
The federal government offered $535 million in low cost loan guarantees from the Department of Energy. NBC Bay Area has contacted the White House asking for a statement.
Some Republicans have been very critical of the loans. “I am concerned that the DOE is providing loans and loan guarantees to firms that aren’t capable of competing in the global market, even with government subsidies” Florida Congressman Cliff Stearns told the New York Times.
It’s not just the new start-up companies. Check out USEC Inc. the one private company exclusively making uranium fuel for the nuclear industry. They need 500 million in loan guarantees to stay in business and they don’t even have to pay for the raw materials. If they fold up the only other place to get enriched uranium will be from foreign suppliers. USU Stock used to be over $20 share back in 2007 now it’s $2.20.
20% of US electrical power comes from nuclear power and now even that may end up coming from over seas.
The real winners in the “Green Revolution” were those adept at milking the FedCow. The company in question had funny “unique” technology that noone else was stupid enough to use. They knew how to get on the DOE gravy train though.
Between 2000 and December 2007, the national economy contracted by as much as 40%; inflation vaulted to over 66,000%, and there were persistent shortages of hard currency, fiat currency, fuel, medicine, and food. GDP per capita dropped by 40%, agricultural output dropped by 51% and industrial production dropped by 47%.
The point - printing money won’t increase GDP or tax revenue once people have depleted savings, can’t increase household income, and can’t borrow more money, and are already spending all they make on food and fuel. Economic collapse will occur gutting all demand and causing 80% unemployment. They noted in the wikipedia that in 2006 a nurses daily pay was less than the price of a soda pop. Once daily pay does not cover transportation and fuel people stop going to work and turn to crime.
The people of LA are being asked to finance a stadium for a billionaire with all the profit going to him and all the risk to the taxpayer.The media of course is all supportive of this horrible plan with hardly a naysayer in the bunch, it shameful and sad to see this happening.
They will pay the city back w/ expected revenues from the stadium( rosy perdictions) these perdictions are 230,000,000 over 30 years that 7,000,000 a year,thats not an asset it is a liability w/ AEG risking none of their own money only the taxpayers money. AEG has negotiated this deal w/ the dumbest people on the block our city council and the mayor. they have had the smartest,highest paid people going up against our council members and mayor who only want free tickets.This is a bad deal for the city of LA, may i remind the mayor and council that they are in the drivers seat not AEG…The NFL needs LA…we the citizens must scream loud and hard to stop this give away to a billionaire, and mayor Villagrosa wants higher office in this country,never vote for him…
One of the things that has made me genuinely proud of Southern California is that for 16 years we’ve avoided being bamboozled by these NFL thug owners. Don’t get me wrong, I love NFL football, but I don’t need to be at the game. Especially if some douchebag owner like Al Davis tells me that “I” have to pay “him” before I can have the privilege of paying “him” for an admission ticket.
Thanks to whoever recommended “The secret of Oz” on youtube. I just finished watching it this morning and I must say that it was very informative. Thanks. I am getting ready to watch The Money Masters next. I would like to see Too Big to Fail, but I don’t have HBO.
From the “How far has X-GSfixr gone down the crapper?” file.
Brother is getting married in Las Vegas this weekend. Have had this trip planned for six months.
It only occurred to me today that with weddings come bridesmaids……and friends of the bride. Since the bride is in her mid-late 30s, I’m assuming most of her friends are approximately the same age.
Me……single, 50 something guy (but I look younger)
In Vegas, with a bunch of 30-40 something friends of the bride.
And here I was, thinking about going to see the “Blue Man Group”…….my testostrone gage must be bouncing on “E”……….
Stay home X. If those brideymaids get their hands on an old fool like you, it could be hazardous to your longevity. Didn’t you get enough the first ride on that zaney rollercoaster?
I need to quit listening to 1960s/ Motown/Barry White type music, and start listening to 2000s rap.
Ummm, give it a pass.
Why? Because, as a fixer of inanimate objects, I’m sure you already know how to use colorful language. (I sure used such language when I worked in the bike shop. Some of those bikes wouldn’t have been repaired without my cussing at them.)
I doubt that rap would teach you any new things about salty words.
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Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-31 15:43:21
I thought you were taking issue with my choice of Barry White?
(Actually, I’m a bigger fan of his “Love Unlimited Orchestra” stuff. I just started imitating his singing because it pizzed my daughters off so much.)
Read a story that J.P. Morgan wrote that it expects QE III to begin on September 21, 2011. Earlier, I read that Morgan expected gold to reach $2500 by the end of the year. Wonder if there is any relationship between the two stories? sarcasm off. Let see a few years ago, a $200,000 house would cost you 200 Oz of gold. At 2500 per Oz, it would cost 80 Oz. There is your housing price collapse. Too bad we are paid in fiat dollars and not gold.
I’ve come to the same conclusion about corn. There is no such thing as speculation. The Aztecs used it for currency. When corn reaches its true potential, I’ll be able to buy a mansion for a few tins. Life is good!
“As of Tuesday, August 30, 2011, at least 4,474 members of the U.S. military had died in the Iraq war since it began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.”
Let’s see. 130K troops took part in the initial invasion. Peak troop count was about 160K in 2005. They kept talking that drawdown was iminant, but in 2008 there were still 140K. When the multi-national force stood down at the end of 2009, there were still over 110K US troops in Iraq. End of 2011 is the final, final deadline to have all combat troops out of Iraq except we now expect ALL OUT to mean all but abuot 15,000-20,000.
So, let’s say that we averaged something like 125K troops in Iraq for 8 years. That is a nice round, 1 million man years. That would mean we have expereinced 474 deaths per 100,000 per year.
Well, in the United States, 20-something males have a death rate of about 140 per 100K per year. That means that statistically speaking, 1400 of those 4500-ish of those killed would be dead anyway.
In short, a 20-y/o having participated in the invasion, then having been stationed in Iraq for 8 years after, would have been only 3x more likely you would have died than had they lived in the USA for that time.
Compare to WWII. 16 million total served, but peak was 12 million. Best I could find made it look like we averaged 10 million for 4 years. 40 million man years. Do not have any idea what % of those were stateside vs. deployed to war zone.
We lost 416,800 military deaths. About 1050 deaths per 100K. So, just being in the military during WWII was 2.5x as deadly as being stationed in Iraq during the last 8 years.
Show of hands: Who has a family member who suffered some sort of disability as a result of their military service? I can count at least one in my family.
I have a second cousin who was diagnosed with PTSD and Gulf War Syndrome……. while serving in a Kuwait motor pool.
Unfortunately, they didn’t interview anyone in the family, who could have told them this kid was fooked in the head/druggied out before he even entered high school.
(He opted, after dad pulled a few strings with his old Army buddies, to join the Army, rather than go to jail for burglary…..ain’t plea bargains great?).
Pretty much everyone who has been on the flightline for any length of time is partially deaf. Does that count?
I lived in Colorado Springs before divorce. My wife and 3 duaghters stayed there. Anyone that knows CoSpgs knows 80% of the single guys in town are stationed at Fort Carson.
I middle daughter’s husband is on partial disability with a blown knee sufferd diving into a fox hole when his unit came under fire.
My youngest was engaged to a guy that went with the 10th mountain during the surge into a previously unpatrolled area of Afghanistan. He was shipped home in a pine box 2 years ago this month.
The eldest daughter’s husband was a good friend of the fiancee (which is how the youngest met him). After seeing Richie and several other good friends blown up, he got himself a Big Chicken Dinner (Bad Conduct Discharge for those of you that never served in the military) from a suspected self-inflected wound to his lower leg. He’s still a PTSD headcase on disability…
So, yeah, I know that the injuries are the larger portion of the casualties, and I know the deaths are real people.
I was specifically responding to an article about deaths.
Show of hands: Who has a family member who suffered some sort of disability as a result of their military service? I can count at least one in my family.
My wife is 20% service connected from Desert Storm and we lost a nephew in Iraq in 2005. My only service connected disability is extreme cynicism.
Estimates that about 700 per month are seriously injured. Let alone the 150k Iraqi’s dead. Walter Reed estimates that 63% of the patients they see have brain injuries. With all respect possible, dead soldiers are a minor problem compared to the injured living. It’s pretty clear that politicians appreciate dead soldiers more than injured ones, they get to claim the glory and honor of a fallen hero without having to pay the bill of an injured one.
“Nothing is too good for our injured soldiers. And nothing is what they’ll get.” — from a documentary about injured soldiers, name escapes me, quote stuck.
Vietnam was about twice as “safe” statistically, as WWII was.
For argument’s sake, I’ve been making the point that we’ve been making war “too safe”, at least as far as our guys are concerned.
Ditto with the “volunteer force”. We now have our very own Prussians. Full time, career military guys. Throw a bunch of draftees, and a bunch more KIA in the mix, and a bunch of this crap would end.
Draftees should start with the 1%ers kids, and work their way down. After all, they have a lot more to “defend” than they typical Section 8 resident.
Best ones I like are the guys who are “government contractors” all week, then go home, change clothes, and come back to the SAME PLACE for National Guard duty.
One of our strengths in WWI and Korea (and to a lesser extent, Kuwait) was the call up of the genuine “citizen soldier”. Guys that were pizzed off about being called up, were stuck for the duration of hostilities, and wanted to go out and kick ass ASAP, so they could go home.
Ron Paul on Talk of the Nation (NPR) today. I think he handled the FEMA issue well. He said it should be handled by the states. I was a little leery of that comment, but it was his follow-up comment that hooked me. Bring the troops home from this disaster of a war, saving $10B/month, and re-allocate individual National Guard troops (who have been mis-allocated to the wars) to assist and take over FEMA’s role.
As of right now, it’s full crackpot ticket for me in 2012:
Paul / Kucinich 2012
The same states that actually have to balance their budgets every year?
One major disaster, and any of the Flyover states would be bankrupt. And the National Guard, nor anyone else is going to show up to help, unless they get paid.
See Joplin Missouri in 5 years. Evidently, the promised “aid” isn’t showing up (now that the photo-ops are done). Guess we’ll gonna see how that “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” plan works.
I hear ya, but I don’t think this is an unreasonable idea, especially if his $20B number is accurate:
““No, it is a system of bureaucratic central economic planning which is a policy that is deeply flawed. So no, you don’t get rid of something like that in one day. As a matter of fact, I have had the position for a long time and the people keep re-electing me and I have a coastal district. But I also suggested that there is different way to finance this too because FEMA is in big trouble financially. Their flood program is about $20 billion in debt.”
Paul told Wallace he would be against voting for any sort of bailout for the financially beleaguered entity unless Obama would consider cutting $2 billion from the military actions in Libya.
“Well, where does the money come from?” Paul said. “Go hat in hand to China and borrow the money? But, I would consider what I just said because I have precise beliefs in what we should do and transition out of the dependency on the federal government. But I would say, ‘Yes, Obama you want a billion dollars? Cut $2 billion and quit the war in Libya that is undeclared and unconstitutional – bring the troops home, save a billion dollars and put that billion against the deficit and tide our people over.””
So the plan is to replace a Washington bureaucracy with 50 “little ones”?
As far as budgets, I’d like to see someone claim they can write a “budget” for natural disasters that haven’t happened yet.
Paul falls into the Republican “all government is bad” gang. He forgets that most of these “bloated buracracies” exist because the private sector was unable/unwilling to solve these problems.
Want to see a “privatized” government function in action? Try flying a corporate airplane in Europe, under “Eurocontrol”
Here, air traffic control is paid for with a nationwide fuel tax.
Over there, every country that you use the ATC system in, whether you land there or not, sends you a bill for “ATC services”.
My current airplane flew to Geneva, Milan, and London a few months ago. We got 10 different invoices for ATC services.
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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-31 15:33:10
I’m not afraid of Ron Paul, nor do I put him in the “all gov’t is bad” gang. There are enough checks in place to make sure he doesn’t go full crackpot. He is the only one on the right talking any logic on the issues. Whether you agree with him or not (and I don’t on several issues), he backs up why he thinks what he thinks. The others are all talking points, all the time.
He and Kucinich are the only two who have voted NO on the wars on (to my understanding) all votes and who want to audit or end the Fed. They seem to be the only ones addressing perhaps the two most important issues, the resolution of which would pay dividends across so many other issues.
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-31 15:43:03
“nor do I put him in the “all gov’t is bad” gang.”
and
“the resolution of which would pay dividends across so many other issues.”
If I might respond to myself, notice his comments about giving $1B if he gets $2B. He realizes that not all of his ideas will fly or will be popular (getting rid of FEMA, for example). As consideration for that, he wants the war ended. I interpreted his comments as: “If we weren’t in this expensive, illegal war we’d have money that could be used for the American people…on things the American people may deem as acceptable for the gov’t to provide such as FEMA.”
And besides, he didn’t say privatize it. He said use the Nat’l Guard for (what is part of) their intended purpose.
Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-08-31 15:59:48
You guys have a lot more faith in local government than I do……if there is any entity I have less faith in, it is the numbskulls in State/Local government. Nothing will turn the USA into the Balkans faster than handing power back to the states.
Out here in Bible-Thumper/Church of Prosperity Land. a natural disaster will be seen by our current governor as God’s plan to “smite” the heathens/Democrats/Socialists-who-used-to-be-called-Moderate Republicans, and obtaining disaster relief will require you to take a pizz test.
I guess you can call local government more “democratic”, in that local politicos are cheaper to bribe, thus making it possible for J6P to buy a few politicians.
I’m an “equal opportunity” cynic.
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-08-31 16:18:35
But again, I think what he’s suggesting is that, “okay, you want your Federally provided disaster coverage? Fine, I don’t agree, but it’s what the people want, so we can pay for that if we end the wars which are a bigger waste of money/resources.”
I like that ability to create ideas, negotiate, be objectively flexible, and build a plan.
“Out here in Bible-Thumper/Church of Prosperity Land. a natural disaster will be seen by our current governor as God’s plan…”
Speaking of states handling disaster response, I spoke to my aunt in Waterbury, VT yesterday.
You may have heard about how badly this town got flooded. Well, according to Aunt Jean, the stories are true. Waterbury got pretty soggy.
And Cousin Tom, her oldest son, can’t get to that general contracting job he’s been doing. Roads are still closed.
During Irene’s visit, the state’s communication system went down. It’s also located in Waterbury.
Well, cue up Waterbury’s spunky little radio station, WDEV. It stayed on the air 24/7 and kept Vermonters in touch with each other. Usually, WDEV goes off the air at midnight.
I’m still waiting to hear whether WDEV will air its regular Saturday morning show, “Music to Go to the Dump By.”
Fed’s Lockhart: No Policy Can Be Ruled Out
Bloomberg
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta President Dennis Lockhart said the Fed should be ready to consider more monetary easing even while it can’t be expected to eliminate some of the forces impeding economic growth.
“Given the weak data we’ve seen recently and considering the rising concern about chronic slow growth or worse, I don’t think any policy option can be ruled out at the moment,” Lockhart said today in the text of a speech in Lafayette, Louisiana. “However, it is important that monetary policy not be seen as a panacea.”
The fed has shown itself to be totally ineffective at reverseing trade imbalances. Time for congress to step up, and I don’t mean more stimulus. I mean, directly attacking the trade imbalances.
I really really don’t think the answers lie in taking money from the people that can afford it the least . At this point the issue is where are the heists .
The point is there were grand heists that were obtained by Ponzi-schemes that crashed . So ,it was ill gotten gain ,just like in the case of Madoff . No different than Madoff in that it was a rigged system that transferred the lions share of the wealth upward to a class that
has been protected in all this mess .
Go back and charge a Ponzi-scheme retroactive tax . I’m serious .
Who made out like bandits because of the rigged system that crashed .
Transfering the pain to the 85 % of the population and letting rich Corporations or culprits off the hook is not the answer .
Ask what the culprits can do for this Country .
Warren Buffet says tax him now . i say Warren Buffet profited from a rigged Ponzi scheme ,therefore his money is the byproduct of ill gotten gain for about 20 years .
They have PR programsw in the Main stream news now that counsel people on accepting getting screwed ,as if its a problem with the people not accepting being screwed .
When people say give up give up ,its because someone else wants to take it ,or don’t want it taken from them .
How do you get the system balanced again ?
They said in the news they are taking 70 state parks in California .
Is everybody going to wait for every single thing being taken from the
85 % just so some billionaire can have 10 Mansions instead of 2 .
Whats wrong with a high percentage of the population having a decent lifestyle ? They would like you to think that the majority of the population is being bitchy wanting a decent lifestyle .
The children should take care of the seniors ,not the Social Security they were promised . take ,take take ,but don;t take from the
Raiders of America .
Is everybody going to feel better when they are proverty stricken
working your hands to the bones for peanuts ?
The Canadian economy shrank 0.4 per cent in the second quarter of the year, the first contraction since the recession, as supply disruptions slammed exports.
The country’s gross domestic product registered a sharp slowdown in the April to June period after a revised 3.6-per-cent reading in the first quarter of the year, Statistics Canada said Wednesday.
The slump reflects a number of temporary factors, as wildfires in northern Alberta and maintenance shutdowns sliced oil productions and Japan’s tsunami caused supply disruptions. Details of the report – which show activity picked up at the end of the quarter – suggest Canada will not fall back into a recession, economists said.
“While the headline number is disappointing, the details of the report are more upbeat, and do not signal a recession,” said Diana Petramala, economist at Toronto Dominion Bank.
“Look for a better third quarter,” said Jennifer Lee, senior economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns in a note.
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DOW turns positive for 2011! Ain’t no stop’n us now… we’re on the move! DOW 12,000 here we come…Buy now or be priced out forever! The street sez… The QE-3 is getting ready to launch! Goldman-Sux told BB to STFU and print, baby print! But none for the serfs.
ITEM: HIV/AIDS group charged with diverting tax dollars to strip club
The Washington Examiner
D.C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan has accused a District HIV/AIDS service provider of spending nearly $330,000 in federal tax dollars to open a strip club.
In a lawsuit filed Tuesday, Nathan said Miracle Hands Inc. promised the city it was using the cash to renovate a warehouse in Northeast for use as a job training center for residents with HIV/AIDS. Instead, the warehouse was turned into the Stadium Club, a strip club that continues to operate, the suit says. Miracle Hands shares an address with the club, according to the company’s website. Nathan asked in the suit that the city be awarded at least $988,959 in damages.
D.C. Councilman David Catania requested in a February letter to Nathan that the attorney general open an investigation into Miracle Hands and its relationship with Stadium Club.
“I am pleased that the attorney general has decided to take action regarding this egregious impropriety,” Catania said Tuesday.
Attempts to reach Miracle Hands owner Cornell Jones were not successful. Jones is a self-described former D.C. drug kingpin with convictions for narcotics distribution on his record.
Maybe he just didn’t say what kind of jobs he would be providing training for? Maybe his strip-club only hires dancers with
AIDS/HIV that have been through his “training center”?
I for one have to give it up for Cornell, at least his strip club was shovel ready. Why he may have even saved some jobs at an aluminum pole factory. Come on Irvin it was only $330,000 in federal tax dollars. Just look below and you will see a California-based solar company that received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration and they are going to lay off 1,100 employees and file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. At least Cornell`s strip club continues to operate and his dacers are still employed.
Solar company to file for bankruptcy despite $535 million loan guarantee
By Andrew Restuccia - 08/31/11 12:45 PM ET
“Regulatory and policy uncertainties in recent months created significant near-term excess supply and price erosion,” Solyndra’s CEO said.
A California-based solar company that received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration announced Wednesday that it will shut down.
The company, Solyndra Inc., said Wednesday it would suspend its manufacturing operations and lay off 1,100 employees effective immediately. The company said it intends to file a petition for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
“Regulatory and policy uncertainties in recent months created significant near-term excess supply and price erosion,” Solyndra CEO Brian Harrison said in a statement. “Raising incremental capital in this environment was not possible. This was an unexpected outcome and is most unfortunate.”
The announcement comes at a tough time for the solar industry, which has faced free-falling solar panel prices.
But the Obama administration has doubled-down on its investments in the industry. The Energy Department finalized last week an $852 million loan guarantee for a separate California solar project sponsored by NextEra Energy. Earlier in August, DOE finalized a $197 million loan guarantee for solar manufacturing facilities in Oregon and California.
Solyndra received the $535 million stimulus loan guarantee from the Energy Department in 2009 to help finance the construction of a new plant to manufacture solar panels.
The Energy Department said Wednesday that it is “disappointed” that Solyndra is shutting down its manufacturing operations, but added, “We continue to believe the clean energy jobs race is one that America can, must and will win.”
“We have always recognized that not every one of the innovative companies supported by our loans and loan guarantees would succeed, but we can’t stop investing in game-changing technologies that are key to America’s leadership in the global economy,” said Dan Leistikow, director of the office of public affairs, in a blog post Wednesday.
Which suggests the best stocks to buy are the ones where the product or service must be kept close by - meaning must not be exportable - and must entail little R&D expenditures.
Same rule goes for jobs: The best jobs are the ones that cannot be exported.
Utilities, such as power companies, and farm related jobs come to mind.
I knew a guy who worked there. I haven’t spoken to him for a long time, but when I spoke to him last, he commented that all of his team’s cost savings ideas (with quick payback for the cost to get the savings) were ignored by management. His comment: “selling a product for less than it costs to build is not a business, it’s a hobby”
I guess fiscal reality got in the way of a nice hobby.
“selling a product for less than it costs to build is not a business, it’s a hobby”
Solyndra received the $535 million stimulus loan guarantee from the Energy Department in 2009 to help finance the construction of a new plant to manufacture solar panels.
“but we can’t stop investing in game-changing technologies that are key to America’s leadership in the global economy,” said Dan Leistikow, director of the office of public affairs,
I liked the Governator’s plan for Green Jobs infinitely better than the US Government’s. There was a law passed in California that gave a sales tax exemption for any equipment purchased in California for the manufacture of “green” products in the state.
Don’t pick a winner, but encourage job creating investment in the state…I don’t know if the state spent $535 million on the program, but I guarantee you whatever they did spend by virtue of the tax break made a bigger impact that this focused loan.
Has anyone tried to rent a home in their particular market recently? If so, how was the experience? Lots of supply? No supply? High rents? Low rents? Just curious as to what people are seeing out there. I’ve heard a few anecdotes recently and trying to expand my sample set…
I just rented out the house that I bought back in the spring for $19k. Its a 2/1 in a decent neighborhood for the area and I just signed up a couple for $550/mo. My take on the current rental market is that you have to be in the low end of affordability and it seems people are downsizing even rental properties.
4 years ago I was begging the wife to sell. At that time, I could have rented on this street for $1300 a month.
Late spring, a for rent sign went up down the street. After it was up a couple months, I got curious and called to see what they were asking. $1100.
When I said thanks and went to hang up, he asked “what will it take to get you into this house?”. I answered, “buy my house for about $50K over market.”
McMillin Realty, a longtime housing presence in San Diego, recently laid off 11 workers to “reposition” the company, said Sandy Perlatti, senior vice president of marketing at the Corky McMillin Companies.
The layoffs included: five employees in administrative and accounting roles, one in land development, two in asset management, (a job that will be outsourced,) one in land acquisition, one in project finance and one in the in-house legal department. In all, 412 people work at the company, which has four offices: two in Bonita, one in Chula Vista and another in San Diego.
“The recovery has not been as robust as we would’ve hoped,” said Perlatti, who has been with the company 30-plus years. “…There was trimming in all areas…so the company can be well positioned to go into the future.”
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The number of San Diego County small businesses filing for bankruptcy has nearly doubled since the first quarter of 2008, says a report by Equifax.
San Diego ranked fourth among U.S. metro areas with 400 small businesses going bankrupt in the first quarter of this year, compared with 208 in the first quarter of 2008, said the report released last week. Equifax classifies a small business as a commercial entity of less than 100 employees.
The pace of bankruptcy filings appears to be slowing in most of the nation, but is increasing slightly in San Diego compared with last year, the report said.
Bankruptcy trends serve as a valuable prism through which to evaluate the credit health of today’s small business market,” said Dr. Reza Barazesh, senior vice president of Equifax Commercial Information Solutions.
“Our latest analysis shows that while business failures may be on the decline, conflicting trends are still making us question if the worst is behind us,” Barazesh said. “Only time will tell if these patterns are just a market aberration resulting from current economic turbulence or a sign of change to come.”
How could the “nobody could have seen it coming” set possibly make buckets of dough through pulling the wool over the sheeples’ eyes if the public were adequately alerted to looming financial catastrophes?
BTW, this was a truly excellent commentary. Thank you, David Frum, for sharing your wealth of insight.
One no longer loves one’s insight enough upon communicating it.
Hurricane Irene could cause more than $10 billion in damage. But there’s another storm brewing that might cost more.
Commentator David Frum
David Frum: For a weekend, Hurricane Irene transfixed media attention.
Kai Ryssdal: Commentator David Frum.
Frum: National networks as well as local news — they reported breathlessly minute by minute the progress of the storm.
And you know what? While some of the reporting was silly, the shows by and large did a public service. People took precautions. The barrage of warnings had a positive effect.
But why is it only weather stories that command such breathless attention?
Meanwhile, the world’s largest currency union — the euro — continues to careen toward disaster. The euro’s travails weigh heavily on the United States’ economy too. Yet just try getting anybody interested in that outside specialized financial media.
Day by day, week by week, the fiscal and monetary authorities in Europe are making decisions–mostly very bad decisions — that are hastening the day when a southern European country either quits the euro or is ejected. That would be followed by debt defaults and bank failures — bank failures that may well contaminate non-European banks as well.
It’s not a sure thing. But then neither was the flooding of lower Manhattan by Irene a sure thing. We still worried. We still took precautions. And when we got lucky, we were glad to have paid attention.
Yet where is the minute-by-minute coverage of our financial exposure? If the worst happens, it will happen for most Americans out of a wild blue yonder — just as the crash of the housing bubble did.
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I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.
Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.
And about two weeks ago I heard Chris Thornberg on the radio remarking that home prices have appeared to have bottomed out.
“Chris Thornberg on the radio remarking that home prices have appeared to have bottomed out”.
~ Appearances can be deceiving!
There have been 3 million foreclosures. There are 4.5 million more currently in the pipeline and probably atleast another 3 million beyond that coming. 1/3rd done, and they are declaring bottom?
Darrell,
It is very surprising that in a sane mind one would assume that people in power would try to fix this mess properly so that it doesn’t happen again. What I see in my nabe is people who bought in the last few years are again foreclosing as prices went down further.
They can declare bottom or whatever, they cannot prevent the inevitable. Prices have to correct to sustainable levels. Only thing they have been smartly trying to do os prolong it and then adjust it for inflation. Buyers like me will never be able to buy. The interest rates will not go up for the next 3-4 years, MID would stay forever, Fann/Fred will keeping getting their money, foreclosures will be hidden from market and a fictitous demand is being created by hoarding the supply.
Martin,
Just take a look at trustee sale laws for a good look at what could ( I think will) happen in judicial foreclsoure states once they get the MERS problem resolved.
House across the street from me that went for $110K in 2002 and $260K in 2006, just sold for $73K.
House across the street from me that went for $110K in 2002 and $260K in 2006, just sold for $73K.
Thanks for keeping such an eagle eye on the situation, darrell!
how did the condition differ in those years?
“What I see in my nabe is people who bought in the last few years are again foreclosing as prices went down further.”
Yep, the tax credit buyers are already on the skids.
Around here, I’m seeing the crash of the In-VEST-or Classes of 2006 and 2007. And, from what I can tell, some of those 2010 Homebuyer Tax Credit people look wobbly already.
I have been paying attention to the market for 4+ years. It is amazing the number of homes that have been bought and sold in that period that I am seeing coming back on the market.
Although I have to admit w/several of them, the sold sign went out but I never did notice a moving truck moving anything in or out.
Comment by CarrieAnn
2011-08-31 12:54:35
I have been paying attention to the market for 4+ years. It is amazing the number of homes that have been bought and sold in that period that I am seeing coming back on the market.
Although I have to admit w/several of them, the sold sign went out but I never did notice a moving truck moving anything in or out.
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That’s exactly what we’ve been seeing. The same houses keep turning over…because prices are STILL too high.
Hey Darrell
I live only a few miles from you. I am currently looking for investment properties in the area. Can you e-mail me at Kbarrett “at” USIC.com?
PS I like your comments on AZ Central
1/3rd done
Git-R-Done
LPS Mortgage Monitor came out a few days ago for the month of July.
Highlight of the presentation:
Judicial States have an average of 111 months to work through their foreclosures based on their pace of dealing with the mess (based on current level of distress and average pace of foreclosure sales).
Non-Judicial States are at an average of 32 months to work through their mess (based on current level of distress and average pace of foreclosure sales).
Conclusion: some states are more than 1/3 done (generally non-judicial), some states are less than 1/3 done (generally judicial).
“I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.”
And the sell side will have to accept there will be no buyer at any price.
he who pick bottoms have stinky fingers ancient Chinese proverb
lmao..
Tell the FBs what they need to hear and they will tune in for more. Tell them something different and they will tune out.
It’s all about ratings. KNX bills itself as a news station, but what does the word “news” mean anymore?
IMO much of the “news” we are fed is really just managed information.
Oh yeah.
Look at the vast divide beween CNBC and MSNBC. Owned by the same company and managed by the same organization. Two VASTLY different sets of headlines and spin.
CNBC provides investing info, so has to cater to the Republicans. Faux News had the Limbaugh crowd locked up, so MSNBC had to cater to the Democrats.
Watching these two “news” programs you’d think they were talking about different planets.
Yeah, you have Jeff Immelt spoon feeding progressives their daily dose of energizing propaganda on MSNBC. Then, while the masses of progressive drones are hypnotized, he continues to offshore jobs, evade corporate taxes and give away American developed technology to the Chinese.
MSNBC - before Comcast deal of course.
What’s really frustrating is that they are saying the housing market has bottomed when the government/GSEs are trying to figure out what to do with all the vacant/foreclosed homes.
How much more of this do we have to take?
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Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) — For sale or rent by motivated owner: 248,000 foreclosed homes.
The U.S. government, which has become the nation’s biggest owner of residential properties, is looking for ways to reduce and manage its huge inventory without swamping the real estate market or exposing federal agencies to enormous losses.
Government-run Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration now own about a third of the country’s nearly 800,000 foreclosed properties. With that inventory predicted to grow, they are looking for new ways to cope.
In a joint public appeal this month, the agencies invited the public to send in suggestions for managing the inventory, particularly ideas for turning foreclosed homes into rentals.
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But the most maddening part is this:
With more than $170 billion drawn so far, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are among the biggest recipients of government bailout money.
Whether turning foreclosures into rentals is a solution remains to be seen. The government wants to explore, among other things, partnerships with investors that would allow Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and FHA to keep an ownership stake in the rental properties, giving the government potential to gain from sales should the housing market recover.
Joint Ventures
Structured properly, joint ventures could help mitigate the impact of foreclosures on struggling neighborhoods, some housing experts say.
“This proposal is encouraging because it looks like a serious attempt to address two problems that have not received enough attention, which is property maintenance and the impact on communities,” said Kevin Stein, associate director of the San Francisco-based California Reinvestment Coalition, which works on behalf of low-income areas.
In the request for information, the agencies said deals would ideally involve packages of properties ranging in value from $50 million to $1 billion.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-08-29/u-s-struggles-as-biggest-seller-of-homes-in-buyers-market.html
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So…instead of letting working Americans buy affordable homes (the REAL “Ownership Society” with no gimmicks or B.S.), we are going to reward the capitalist parasites who’ve destroyed our country, yet again, at the expense of home buyers, renters, and the goverment/taxpayers. I’ve heard these “investors” are whining that they need government loans in order to entice them to invest!
Seriously, we desperately need our own lobbying group. Is there anything we can do about this?
working Americans buy affordable homes
Working Americans have already bought unaffordable homes, or HELOCed their home into unaffordability. They can’t buy an affordable home without selling first, and they can’t sell because they are underwater. That’s the entire point. The Admin is catering to the majority, not the people “on the fence.” From what I can tell, the only people on the fence are HBB. (that’s why I proposed and EZBK holiday)
But I agree that turning foreclosures into rentals probably won’t help the neighborhood.
But I agree that turning foreclosures into rentals probably won’t help the neighborhood.
I also agree.
For the pure and simple fact that, in any given market, there are only so many home purchasers and so many renters. If you have a surplus of housing, some of those places are going to sit empty.
Yep. Turn them into rentals to stop house price declines that would be casued by selling them, you drive down the cost of rent. Now, instead of walking because they are underwater, the walk because they can rent for way less than their house payment.
Oh, and then investors stop buying up post-foreclosures as rentals becasue rent is so low. Now, instead of more supply than demand, you have less demand than supply. Oh, wait… that’s the same thing.
Thornberg has turned into quite the serial bottom caller as of late.
I suppose it is possible that prices have reached a nominal, government-sponsored-and-supported bottom. But real prices have years of downward equilibration ahead to reconcile a massive supply glut of overpriced, unwanted family-sized McMansions with a dwindling prospective buyer pool. The demand side would be bad enough if only due to the high unemployment rates and underwater household balance sheets of the Great Recession. Throw in a tsunami of Baby Boomer household retirements on top of a dismal rate of U.S. household formation and the lowest U.S. birth rates in a century, and you can anticipate real problems for U.S. housing demand over the next couple of decades.
I agree with the writers of this article that the U.S. economic expansion may be hammered in the near term by Baby Boomers leaving the workforce, especially as many of them curtail their luxury consumption in a desperate attempt to retain a minimal standard of living during their retirement years after seeing the values of their houses drop and their stock portfolios get hammered during the Lost Decade.
This said, there are green shoots of long-term upside potential for the U.S. economy, as a large number of highly-qualified recent college graduates who have had a very difficult time finding jobs may find opportunities created by Baby Boomer retirements. This rebirth process is something which will play out over many years, not over the near-term time horizon which Wall Street traders tend to myopically favor.
Bloomberg
Shrinking Labor Force May Curb U.S. Expansion for Two Decades
August 30, 2011, 7:38 PM EDT
By Steve Matthews and Joshua Zumbrun
Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — This is not your mother’s recovery.
Women and baby boomers entering the American workforce after 1950 helped to supercharge expansions in 1975 and 1983 by filling an increasing number of jobs and purchasing more goods and services. Now as the share of women with jobs falls and older Americans age into retirement, the shrinking — or, at best, slowly growing — workforce will weaken economic activity for the next two decades.
The demographic changes may be the biggest and least- appreciated reason why the two-year recovery has slowed, because the rate of growth for labor and capital is “the most important determinant” of economic expansion, said James Paulsen, chief investment strategist for Wells Capital Management in Minneapolis.
More retirees mean slower household formation, reduced consumer spending and downward pressure on equity prices as retirement cuts people’s purchasing power, according to John Lonski, chief economist at Moody’s Capital Markets Group in New York, and Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania.
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It is interesting that just a few years ago the baby boomers leaving the work force was suppose to lead to a shortage of workers and a very low unemployment rate.
Once again, I would like to remind everyone that Gen X & Y are FAR larger than the boomers.
This article is just another re-enforcement of the “SS is broke” propaganda.
SS is NOT broke. That meme is perpetuated by the Repubs for Wall St. trying to take the money for their own use.
What IS broke is our capability of creating decent paying jobs.
If you have twice as many Gen X/Y making minimum wage trying to support Boomers who twice the salary, it kinda cancels out.
But we also have to refrain from the “us vs. them” arguments that the PTB keep trying to stir up. Whether it’s public vs. private sector workers, or Baby Boomers vs. Gen X/Y, etc. We need to focus on those who have destroyed our job base, destroyed our currency, and caused the tremendous wealth/income disparity that is turning us into a Third World nation.
(Hint: it’s not the public sector workers, nor is it the Baby boomers.)
“SS is NOT broke.
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What IS broke is our capability of creating decent paying jobs.”
Ummm…
I hate to go technical on the political points you were trying to score, but isn’t SS funded out of a flat payroll tax on earnings up to the SS wage base? No decent paying jobs, not enough payroll taxes to fund future entitlement payments.
And then there is this:
July saw record number of mass layoffs
Written by
Elizabeth Aguilera
3:30 p.m., Aug. 23, 2011
Definition
A mass layoff involves at least 50 workers from a single employer.
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
The number of mass layoffs in July rose 3 percent over the month prior and involved 145,000 U.S. workers, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
That figure is up 2 percent year over year, according to the data released Tuesday.
In July, there were 1,579 seasonally adjusted mass layoffs nationwide, 47 more than occurred in June, according to the agency. If the figures are not seasonally adjusted the BLS found the number of mass layoffs in July was 2,176 and involved 216,774 workers.
California experienced the highest number of mass layoffs in July, according to BLS. The state’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate reached a high of 12 percent in July, second only to Nevada. Other states with large numbers of July mass layoffs were New York, Michigan and Florida.
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AND this:
Social Security disability on verge of insolvency
Updated 8/24/2011 1:14 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Laid-off workers and aging baby boomers are flooding Social Security’s disability program with benefit claims, pushing the financially strapped system toward the brink of insolvency.
Applications are up nearly 50 percent over a decade ago as people with disabilities lose their jobs and can’t find new ones in an economy that has shed nearly 7 million jobs.
The stampede for benefits is adding to a growing backlog of applicants — many wait two years or more before their cases are resolved — and worsening the financial problems of a program that’s been running in the red for years.
New congressional estimates say the trust fund that supports Social Security disability will run out of money by 2017, leaving the program unable to pay full benefits, unless Congress acts. About two decades later, Social Security’s much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry, too, leaving it unable to pay full benefits as well.
Much of the focus in Washington has been on fixing Social Security’s retirement system. Proposals range from raising the retirement age to means-testing benefits for wealthy retirees. But the disability system is in much worse shape and its problems defy easy solutions.
The trustees who oversee Social Security are urging Congress to shore up the disability system by reallocating money from the retirement program, just as lawmakers did in 1994. If Congress does not act, the disability program will collect only enough payroll taxes to pay about 85 percent of benefits after the trust fund is exhausted in 2017.
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They neglect to point out that when women were entering the work force wages were rising and the middle class was expanding.
Now any increase in labor costs will immediately be squelched with outsourcing to slave labor states. There will be absolutely no recovery because of this alone. I mean we can’t even employ the people we have now.
Every effort will be made to avoid going to the Despair Stage of Grief. There is still some Denial and very much Bargaining. It is the national mood. Rumblings of the White House wanting to throw another Trillion at paving over roads and such. Classic Bargaining, as in we’ll do anything just to make this go away, but we don’t have a clue. It isn’t going to stop the inevitable.
“Despair Stage of Grief”
AKA Capitulation Stage of Housing Bust
Is capitulation part of Acceptance or Despair?
Capitulation is the transition from Depression into Acceptance.
I don’t think we’re there yet.
This is spot on. The emotion is building that this is not going to work out.
You can here it when Bernanke complains that Congress should stimulate the economy at the same time as reducing the deficit. Obama spends months on cutting spending and then gives all the saving away proposing cuts in taxes. He will come up with a new one next week.
Cutting the payroll taxes for social security is just insane.
Bob McCormick - He reminds me of Bob Brinker (KABC - former show “Money Talk”). Both patronize their paycheck master sponsors. An agenda is sold as objectivity.
Chris Thornberg is now bought and sold, imho. He reminds me of his UCLA Anderson self these days, as opposed to when he first started Beacon Economics.
Shilling is still predicting another 20% drop in house prices.
“I guess I just have to acclimate myself to the new reality: that reality will never be addressed, ever, in financial news, despite all the crap of the last 10+ years.”
Most of the financial pimps publish a newsletter for consumption by their paid subscribers, and few if any of them suggest a bottom in housing prices is near. In the MSM they are called upon to lie…just like our country’s presidents.
One doesn’t need a college degree to see where all of this is headed. A cursory observation of the aging populace, the obese youth, the number of wild-eyed street people, garbage and graffiti everywhere, everything made somewhere else, high debt levels and low wages, for lease or rent signs everywhere, etc., suggest that the next decade is certain to be serious trouble for those interested in the GDP. One has to wonder if the historians will get it right several decades from now.
obese youth, the number of wild-eyed street people, garbage and graffiti everywhere, everything made somewhere else, high debt levels and low wages, for lease or rent signs everywhere, etc., suggest that the next decade is certain to be serious trouble
Sounds like life in Idiocracy, coming soon to a
theatercity near you!“Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.”
Is it possible we have a bottom of sorts if all of the houses that will never sell again are excluded? Please note that even if we exclude all of those houses, I still think there will be declines among the rest.
KNX am1070 radio
that station really sucks now
Did I mention that one of my local blogging buddies recently liberated himself from NPR?
” NPR’s corporate-Republican bias”
So why are Republicans so ready to kill NPR?
Yesterday I was listening to KNX am1070 radio in Los Angeles with the business report, I think the dude’s name is Bob McCormick, and he was just gushing (he tends to gush) about the Case-Schiller Index being up for three straight months, and most importantly (his emphasis, not mine) Los Angeles real estate was part of the trend, and he said, that Case-Schiller said, that real estate in Los Angeles bottomed out in 2009. Somehow I don’t believe that the Case-Schiller report contains anything close to that statement.
What these word-gushers are overlooking is the comparison between MOM (going up for three straight months — woo-hoo!) and YOY (still headed down — awww, bummer!). I’ll betcha money that they don’t understand the difference between the two.
Spring was kind to home prices, but future isn’t bright
By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY
U.S. home prices rose 3.6% in the second quarter from the first, boosted by the spring buying season. But prices are expected to retreat this fall because of the struggling economy.
Even though prices rose quarter to quarter, they remain 5.9% below where they were last year, putting second-quarter U.S. home prices at 2003 levels, according to the Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller home price index released Tuesday.
The spring increase was widely expected, given long-standing buying patterns. When adjusted for seasonal factors, U.S. home prices in the second quarter were basically flat with the quarter before, the data show.
The fall outlook is grimmer, economists say, following shocks to consumer confidence stemming from the U.S. and European debt crises, U.S. stock market turmoil, high unemployment and anemic job growth. Consumer confidence tanked in August to its lowest level in two years, The Conference Board said Tuesday.
The drumbeat of bad economic news “increases the number of (home buyers) who’ll sit on the fence,” says Stan Humphries, chief economist for real estate website Zillow.
Signals are already pointing to weak numbers. Pending home sales slipped 1.3% in July from June, the National Association of Realtors reported this week. Existing home sales in July also slipped from June levels. For the week ending Aug. 19, the latest data available, applications for mortgages to buy homes fell to a 15-year-low, despite some of the lowest mortgage rates in decades, the Mortgage Bankers Association says.
Even before recent economic events, many economists expected home prices to continue to fall for much of this year. Zillow doesn’t expect prices to bottom nationally until 2012. Now, even that prediction may be too optimistic, Humphries says.
Wealthy Use Auctions to Sell Mansions After Price Cuts Fail
Bloomberg
David Sandwith has been trying to unload his seven-bedroom house on Mercer Island, Washington, since 2009, listing it first for $32 million, then cutting the price to $28.8 million last year. After not receiving any acceptable offers, he’s putting it up for auction.
“I have a growing family and I have opportunities that I want to pursue in my life, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that I will be located here in the greater Northwest,” Sandwith, 41, said in a telephone interview. “The time is right for us to sell the home.”
Real estate auctions, long used in the sale of foreclosed properties, are becoming more popular among wealthy homeowners to drum up interest for mansions that have languished on the market after the housing crash. In exchange for a quicker sale, many sellers are accepting price cuts of 50 percent or more.
Sandwith, a father of four who retired in 2007 after selling a family company, hired Gadsden, Alabama-based J.P. King Auction Co. to find a buyer for his 14,000-square-foot (1,300- square-meter) waterfront property. The sale, to be held today, doesn’t have an opening bid. The reserve auction will allow Sandwith to decline any offer he doesn’t deem high enough.
Mega-Mansions
“While our bread and butter are auctions for homes between $3 million and $8 million, calls for these mega-mansions have doubled this year,” said Caley King Newberry, a J.P. King spokeswoman. “Many didn’t have to sell when they wanted to in 2008 and 2009 because they had the holding power, but now they’ve decided it’s time to move on with their lives.”
At a J.P. King competitor, Grand Estates Auction Co., only about 12 percent of auctions are the result of financial distress, said Stacy Kirk Reich, president of the Charlotte, North Carolina-based company. The number of buyers has risen 130 percent since 2006, she said.
“Sellers will come to us for various reasons, maybe the death of a loved one or a divorce, but most frequently because they are reallocating wealth to other locations,” said Kirk Reich, whose company specializes in auctions of properties valued at $1.5 million to $10 million.
The company gets an average of 276 inquiries per listing and 16 bidders per auction.
Home-Price Decline
Homeowners are seeking new methods for selling their properties as the U.S. economy shows signs of sputtering. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index has declined 6.4 percent in August, poised for its fourth straight month of losses. Morgan Stanley said on Aug. 18 that the U.S. and Europe are “dangerously close” to recession. The S&P/Case-Shiller index, a gauge of home prices in 20 U.S. cities, fell 4.5 percent in June from a year earlier, according to a report today.
The number of sales at Premiere Estates Auction Co., which sells luxury properties, rose 30 percent last year, said Anthony Fitzgerald, a broker with the Manhattan Beach, California-based company. He wouldn’t say how many homes the company sold. The gain is likely to be exceeded this year, he said.
“The actual dollar amount of homes auctioned off has also increased by about that much,” Fitzgerald said. “It means there are more auctions but there are also more high-end auctions. I think it’s fair to say that we’ve seen a 100 percent increase in opening bid prices.”
$22 Million
Premiere Estates is preparing the sale of a Malibu, California, beach estate owned by William Chadwick, a managing director at investment bank Chadwick Saylor & Co. The minimum bid is $22 million. With an original listing price of $65 million in 2008, it is the highest-priced home ever to go to auction, according to Fitzgerald.
At an open house in early August, about a dozen people at a time walked through the 10,500-square-foot, nine-and-a-half bathroom estate, which has five fireplaces, an ocean-view gym, a $1.5 million home theater with leather recliners, and a 75-foot (23-meter) lap pool on a 4,500-square-foot patio.
The home sits on “Billionaire Beach,” a stretch of Malibu officially known as Carbon Beach, where Jeffrey Katzenberg, chief executive officer of DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc., and Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), also have homes.
The home, which Chadwick built in 2005, is assessed at $6.08 million and the land at $2.45 million, according to public records. Chadwick bought the property from Pepperdine University in 2002 for $2 million, according to the Los Angeles County assessor’s office. The $22 million starting bid at the auction is based on recent sales of comparable properties in the area, Fitzgerald said.
“David Sandwith has been trying to unload his seven-bedroom house on Mercer Island, Washington, since 2009, listing it first for $32 million, then cutting the price to $28.8 million last year. After not receiving any acceptable offers, he’s putting it up for auction.”
The sales strategies of ‘cutting the price’ and ‘auction’ are not mutually exclusive, as suggested by this article. Their intersection is ‘Dutch auction,’ where the seller starts out with a list price above market value (like Mr Sandwith apparently did) then reduces the price until a buyer is forthcoming (like Mr Sandith apparently didn’t).
No-reserve-price English auctions are another guaranteed way to quickly unload a mansion which refuses to sell and to discover its true market value in the process.
“I want the true market value!”
“You can’t handle the true market value!”
+4 !
A quick search found this article about the Sandwiths and their house.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303341904575576782381948758.html
“Retired at 40, Mr. Sandwith had an ownership stake in Mikron, a manufacturer of window and door components started by his father that sold in 2004 for about $205 million. Usually attired in jeans or shorts, Mr. Sandwith devotes much of his time to coaching his kids’ sports teams and volunteering at their schools. He said selling the house would give his family the flexibility to afford other experiences, like traveling the world.
“Clearly if there was significantly less money invested in the home and it was still the home that we wanted, it would make more sense to be able to do both,” he said. “I just wouldn’t be comfortable being able to [travel] and at the same time hold on to an asset like that.”
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“High school sweethearts from the area, the Sandwiths long wanted to own on Lake Washington. In 2004, after searching for a year and a half, the couple purchased a waterfront lot for $5.38 million and came up with a $12.5 million construction budget that Mr. Sandwith said he now wishes had been more comprehensive. They also purchased a 4,600-square-foot home nearby to live in while they waited.
Mr. Sandwith said it quickly became apparent that the project would take longer than the planned 2.5 years because of his high standards. After an entry had been framed, he decided to make it taller, so people would see more of the view; finding the right stone for the home’s exterior took months. Lengthy permitting processes for work such as replacing a basalt bulkhead with wade-in beaches also slowed things down. (A controversial plan to build an indoor gym was scrapped because they decided to sell.) “
How much you want to bet they will have reserves, or shadow bidders at the auction? A can’t imagine he’d sit back and let the house go for… say… $15 million, or 50% off his initial list price.
This is just more gimmick to attempt to create urgency…. The house is selling today, so if you want it, better buy it today! Bull.
Exactly.
The free advert in USA Today may find him a buyer.
Nah — millionaires have better uses of their time than reading USA Today…
Why do I suspect that Mr. Sandwith is less interested in “unloading” the house than in adding significantly to his already considerable wealth by finding a sucker who will pay his inflated asking price?
Another interesting part of this article is the fact that he got so wealthy by selling a family company. I am curious about the fate of that business. Has it been dismantled, its former employees out of jobs? Did Mr. Sandwith personally run the company, or did he inherit it, only to make a big profit on the sale, and retire at age 37? I have two friends who run family businesses and they are both highly invested in running and improving their companies. They both employ highly skilled (and well paid) workers. I find it kind of sad that this guy took the easy way out of a business that one or more family members probably built up with years of their own sweat. And now he’s too pigheaded to price his house reasonably. Some businessman.
Apparently, Mikron is still in business.
http://mikronvinyl.com/
Forbes
U.S. Bancorp, one of the nation’s biggest banks, became the latest large financial firm to sue Bank of America, filing a lawsuit over $1.75 billion of mortgage loans on Monday on behalf of investors of the loans.
Acting as trustee of a trust that included 4,400 mortgage loans originated by Bank of America’s Countrywide unit, U.S. Bancorp claims Bank of America, the biggest bank in the U.S., must repurchase loans in the mortgage pool because Countrywide had agreed to do so if it misled investors about the quality of the loans.
“The Trustee seeks to compel Countrywide, and Bank of America as its successor-in-interest, to specifically perform their obligation to repurchase all of the loans that the Trustee has submitted as breaching loans,” the lawsuit filed in New York state court in Manhattan says.
I see the prospect of banks cannibalizing other banks as a promising sign, as such stories suggest that perhaps current and future generations of U.S. taxpayers are not being forced to help sweeten the deals with bailout money.
Of course, it is also possible that there are hidden deal-sweetener bailouts in play which are not mentioned in the article…
I am thinking that BoA bought Countrywide as part of a back room deal brokered between Fed and Treasury and BoA. I think the tax payer is on the hook for bailing BoA of all these losses whether it is made public or not.
Fact.
“…whether it is made public or not.”
Since their last FOIA request was successful, perhaps Bloomberg could file some more?
Realtors Are Liars®
And Prez Scary Barry is a communist, muslim, african, indonesian, boogeyman intent on singlehandedly destroying Amerikwa. Hide the children, lock up the livestock, and keep your Bible close at hand!
Hide your CHANGE and HOPE he don’t find it too.
…. and fetch yer weepons martha! he’s dun gunna take are weepons too!
from the mouths of babes
U.S. mortgage applications tumbled last week: MBA
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Applications for U.S. home mortgages tumbled last week as demand for refinancing sagged for the second week in a row, an industry group said on Wednesday.
The Mortgage Bankers Association said its seasonally adjusted index of mortgage application activity, which includes both refinancing and home purchase demand, dropped 9.6 percent in the week ended Aug 26.
The MBA’s seasonally adjusted index of refinancing applications slumped 12.2 percent, while the gauge of loan requests for home purchases edged up 0.9 percent after setting a 15-year low set the week before.
“Refinance application volume declined for a second week from recent highs, despite rates staying near a 10-month low, while purchase volume remained near 15-year lows,” Mike Fratantoni, MBA’s vice president of research and economics, said in a statement.
The refinance share of mortgage activity decreased to 77.8 percent of total applications from 79.8 percent.
Someone just forwarded me this horrid pun:
“Heard there was an earthquake in DC. Obviously the government’s fault.”
Meanwhile, Today’s Houses:
House 1: Reg’lar folk.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3522-Olympic-St-Silver-Spring-MD-20906/37307948_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}
Standard 1955 split level 4/1.5 split level. Pretty nice, actually. Good yard, middle-class kitchen, good commuter location. Obviously lived in and cared for by normal people.
Mar 1989: Sold $152K
May 2011: Listed $299K
Aug 2011: Listed $279K <— SERIOUS SELLER! sez the listing.
(but that’s an early 2004-era price.)
However, if a house like this is $279K (I’d lowball for $230K), then why are those half-trashed illegal-bedroom baby ramblers listing for $240K or so? They should be 100K less.
House 2: Fire that architect.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14700-Pondside-Dr-Silver-Spring-MD-20906/37333935_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}
It’s not a trainwreck disaster, just a colonial-style with bad taste in proportion. 1986 5/3 with rooms that are just too big, squeezed onto a 0.1 acre lot. I can’t figure out if there’s a front door. Guests are obviously meant to enter through the garage. I like the layout of the kitchen but that’s about it. The skeeter-infested pond and “glorious” gardens look like part of the development, so be sure to bring an HOA fee to the PITI party.
Jun 2001: Sold $268K
Jan 2005: Sold $485K
Oct 2010: Listed $540K
chase market down to
Aug 2011: Listed $399K <— probably worth about $350K.
The skeeter-infested pond and “glorious” gardens look like part of the development, so be sure to bring an HOA fee to the PITI party.
Obviously, it’s Bush’s Fault.
There once was an evil King Barry
And his goons Joey and Nancy and Harry
With the subjects distraught
Though the difference was nought
They replaced him with evil King Perry
How’s this for a horrid pun?
A pirate walks into a bar with a ship’s wheel sticking out of his pants.
The bartender says, “Excuse me, sir, but do you know you have a ship’s wheel down the front of your pants?”
The pirate replies,
“Aaargh, it’s driving me nuts!!”
There once was a man from Peru
Whose limericks stopped at line two.
That first one is a cute house, Oxide, but did you see this in the comments?
4SPECIAL1st time home buyer HOC $ may be avail with almost 0 $ down.
It’s like a never-ending nightmare!
I did, but I don’t know what HOC is.
Home Owner Contribution?
The second could be ok with some minor changes to the outside. Either contrasting paint colors, or a different accent material (stone, brick) to break up the monotony.
It has a front door (pic #2 & #3) but the porch is horrible. Redoing that where the stairs come off the front, and the sidewalk rounds around to the driveway could be a fun and only moderately expensive project (could also be DIY).
Covering the porch would improve the look architecturally as well, but you would need a triangle shaped porch cover for it to look good, which would probably mean decreasing the size of the window above. If it’s an egress window, that’s a no go.
In any case, the lot seems very large to me, and the price seems somewhat legitimate.
Love your daily picks by the way.
Not an egress window, just a window to allow light into the open entryway. I think it’s pointless to add large normal windows if you can’t open your high windows for ventillation, but that’s just my opinion.
I think the problems are there are no roof eaves, and they were so intent on a two-story family room that the side wing is too tall. Even a porch will not bring that into proportion.
I believe the large yard is HOA space and the house itself only comes with 0.1 acre. The property ends before the wooden fence — it’s a little more apparent from the satellite map.
I’m actually rather surprised at the low price, considering that there is an entire full kitchen in the basement. However, the house is pretty far out from the city. Still, I would far rather live with this house than chose something farther west, off route 270 (the daily parking lot).
Planned layoffs decline in August: Challenger
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The number of planned layoffs at U.S. firms declined 23 percent in August after rising for three straight months, with the government sector again leading the job cuts, a report showed on Wednesday.
Employers announced 51,114 planned job cuts, down from 66,414 in July, according to the report from consultants Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc. Planned cuts in July had marked a 16-month high.
“In August, the private sector once again took a backseat to the government sector, which saw job cuts surge to the second highest monthly total this year,” John Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, said in a statement.
But July’s planned job cuts were up 47 percent from August 2010, when they were at 34,768. For 2011 so far, employers have announced 363,334 cuts, somewhat better than the 374,121 cuts announced in the first eight months of 2010.
More job cuts are expected at the federal government level with pressure to cut the federal budget, the report said.
Cuts in the government sector accounted for 18,426 of the announced layoffs in August, and 105,406 for the year so far.
“Meanwhile, the private sector is still being hampered by low consumer and business spending. While we do not see any indication of a sudden resurgence in private-sector job cuts, conditions definitely are not ideal for hiring,” said Challenger.
AT&T to bring 5,000 jobs to US if T-Mobile bid OKd
“NEW YORK -(MarketWatch)-
AT&T said it will bring 5,000 wireless call-center jobs it has outsourced abroad back to the U.S. if its proposed $39 billion deal to buy Deutsche Telekom AG’s /quotes/zigman/169382 DTEGY -1.43% T-Mobile USA is approved by regulators.
Late Tuesday, AT&T said it would add the jobs after the deal closes and promised not to cut any more wireless call-center positions. The move is contingent on the U.S. Federal Communications Commission and Department of Justice approving the takeover, company spokesman Brad Burns said in an email. ”
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Give us a near-monopoly, and we promise to bring back jobs? Is it just me, or is this is frekin’ MOBSTER BLACKMAIL?
The comments to this article had the exact same impression I did — this is a dangerous precedent.
And I’d be stunned if they actually bring back the jobs. Or, they’ll bring them back for a year, and then re-outsource them anyway. Or hire 5000 and outsource 10000 later. C’mon, federal regulators… do the right thing…
So what is the “right thing” for the regulators to do? Should we legislate by regulation as Congress defaults? Should we say no just to spite our face?
“… as Congress defaults.”
Unfortunately, senators and representatives have concluded that their primary, overriding mission is to collect enough “campaign contributions” to assure their re-election. This mission consumes pretty much 100% of their non-sleeping hours.
When’s the last time the senate passed a budget?
Anyone? Buehler?
How about a penalty tax for all outsourced jobs ,or for building a plant in another Country .
It isn;t the responsibility of the USA to make American Corporations richer by playing the Worlds systems .
Why should we pay these clowns for providing jobs . Should be a penalty for not providing jobs . They use the intrastructures provided by tax dollars for commerce .
Government shouldn’t just be the pawn of Big Business paying for everything that helps business .
How just ending the tax breaks they get for sending those jobs overseas?
AT&T lies about bringing jobs back to the US in last second ploy to try to prevent government opposition to the purchase of Tmobile, and fails.
In my state the gov just handed 650k grant to a company as a grant to pay for a rail line to the company. The company promised to this would lead to a creation of jobs. My guess is that this will be offset by a destruction of jobs loading and unloading product at the company and rail station from trucks.
I’m all for the company building the rail line just not on the tax payer dime.
The company donated 10k to the gov, I’d say that’s a sweet return.
From the CNET article:
“In a statement today on AT&T’s announcement of 5,000 new jobs, AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka touted the move, saying that it’s what’s needed in today’s struggling economy. “These jobs will provide quality wages and benefits and good working conditions for U.S. workers–exactly what’s needed to help turn around our struggling economy,” Trumka said.”
Through his willingness to throw U.S. cell phone users under the bus in return for 5000 jobs that should and could be brought back to the U.S. anyway, how is AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka any better than a Nazi collaborator?
That description is a little too far, IMO. But I admit I was surprised at Trumka selling out for 5000 jobs. AT&T would probably lay off another 10000 more during this merger.
However, it looks like the gov isn’t buying it:
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-said-trying-to-block-att-buying-t-mobile-2011-08-31
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The Justice Department on Wednesday sued to block AT&T’s planned $39 billion of acquisition of T-Mobile USA, which would concentrate 80% of the mobile phone market between two competitors.
The Justice Department said the deal if completed would reduce competition and raise prices. Deputy Attorney-General James Cole said price, quality and innovation would be diminished if the deal went through. He noted the two companies compete in 97 of the 100 top markets.
…The suit doesn’t mean the deal is dead.
“I think the government is simply saying this deal, the way it is structured will not be approved. So AT&T must change the structure and they will. They will reintroduce this deal and it will be under consideration again,” said Jeff Kagan, an independent telecom analyst.
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How do you “restructure” a merger deal? You only buy half of it now and half later?
If i were Justice, I would be so insulted by the jobs blackmail that I would block any deal and sue them for bribery on top of it.
“That description is a little too far, IMO.”
Agreed. It was more in the sense that corporations such as AT&T have collectively killed millions of American jobs.
Getting back 5000, even assuming none are lost as a result of a merger, is chump change. That’s not exactly driving a hard bargain. And considering the harm that would be done to consumers if the merger were to to through, it’s a horrible deal.
How many T-Mobile employees will be laid off??
Obama just created the newest Al-Qaeda country…
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Tripoli divided as rebels jostle over power
msnbc | 8/31/2011 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and ROD NORDLAND/NY Times
Fighters from the western mountain city of Zintan control the airport. The fighters from Misurata guard the central bank, the port and the prime minister’s office, where their graffiti has relabeled the historic plaza “Misurata Square.” Berbers from the mountain town Yafran took charge of the city’s central square, where they spray-painted “Yafran Revolutionaries.”
A week after rebels broke into Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s former stronghold, much of its territory remains divided into fiefs, each controlled by quasi-independent brigades representing different geographic areas of the country. And the spray paint they use to mark their territory tells the story of a looming leadership crisis in the capital, Tripoli.
The top civilian officials of the Libyan rebels’ Transitional National Council — now styling itself as a provisional government to be based in the capital — are yet to arrive, citing personal safety concerns even as they pronounce the city fully secure.
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Several liberals among the rebel leadership council complained privately that Mr. Hasadi had been a leader of the disbanded Libyan Islamist Fighting Group, which rebelled against Colonel Qaddafi in the 1990s. Some said they feared it was the first step in an attempt at an Islamist takeover. They noted that Mr. Hasadi was named commander by the five battalions of the so-called Tripoli Brigade, rather than by any civilian authority. And they complained about the perceived influence of Qatar, which helped train and equip the Tripoli Brigade and also finances Al Jazeera.
Cut him some slack. With leaders like Qadaffi, the CIC is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.
Besides that, were we even involved in Libya? I’m losing track of where the U.S. is involved and where we aren’t…
I agree. The same was said of GWB when he invaded Iraq.
We were involved and I think we will find out that the intense bombing that occurred during the last few months was because the U.S. came back into the combat and was not just involved in logistical support.
We got back in because our Euros/NATO allies ran out of smart bombs in 4-5 days.
Time to flip the booger onto Uncle Sam.
Why do these stories always seem to conjure up images of the closing scenes of Lawrence of Arabia (Damascus)?
Brigades, tribes, battalions, divided they stand I guess.
They are split by tribes and nominally united by Islam. As I have said on this blog numerous times, democracy just is not possible in the Middle East. Any policy that tries to promote democracy in the region, until they turn from Islam, just is a waste of money and sometimes blood. The rulers that are falling tried to create a united Arab identity and this was actually good for Christians in the region. It is unfortunate, that they turned into such dictators but only strong man prosper in that region. People like the Shah advanced woman’s rights, education and broke the power of the mullahs but they came back and Iran has gone backwards since his fall, both economically and socially.
Successful U.S. presidents have just focused on keeping the oil flowing and the ones that have tried to promote democracy have left failures. Right now, the oil is not flowing from Libya so that is costing us $400 million per day since the price of oil is about $20 a barrel higher than it would be if the flow of oil had continued. That is the real cost of the war, actually if you count the impact on the rest of the world including Europe, it is much higher.
‘It’s not clear what we’ve “won” in Libya. But it is clear what we’ve lost: Whatever’s left of the quaint notions that America should wage war only in defense of our vital interests and that presidential uses of military force can and should be constrained by law.’
‘Last week brought some Twitter triumphalism from the Center for American Progress linking to House Speaker John’ Boehner’s June complaint that the president had violated the War Powers Act. CAP demanded: “Does John Boehner still believe U.S. military operations in Libya are illegal?”
‘Why shouldn’t he? After all, that’s what the president’s own attorney general believes. Obama’s Office of Legal Counsel, backed by Attorney General Eric Holder, told Obama in May that under the War Powers Resolution, he needed congressional authorization to continue bombing Libya after the WPR’s time limit expired.’
‘That wasn’t what the president wanted to hear, so he got a second opinion from Harold Koh, the servile State Department legal adviser, who argued that we weren’t engaged in “hostilities” under the WPR because Gadhafi couldn’t effectively return fire.’
‘It was a law professor’s version of a “Jedi mind trick”
‘Has it occurred to anyone in Obama’s cheering section that the Koh precedent will be available for use by future presidents? And that they might come to rue embracing the argument that it’s perfectly legal for the president to, Zeus-like, rain down destruction from on high wherever he chooses, without so much as a by-your-leave to Congress?’
“With Libyan rebels apparently engaged in reprisal attacks against Gadhafi loyalists — “the worst treatment,” the Washington Post reported Friday, “appeared to be reserved for anyone with black skin”
I agree with you on that point and it is ironic that the liberal law professor president is the one that has ended any check on a president to wage war. The next generation of weapons will be even more automated and man like robot soldiers are not far from a reality so under the Obama precedent, I can see presidents having much more options to wage war.
It’s also ironic that the guy who campaigned on ending war, could have raised a ‘mission accomplished!’ banner legitimately and hightailed it out, but instead keeps it going and starts more wars!
The leading Repub candiate has already made noise about brandishing the military to protect our freedom, so can’t use the power of the vote there (either).
“……constrained by law…..”
Waste of time discussing this. That ship sailed a long time ago.
What you need to do is elect people who aren’t going to go on military misadventures to begin with.
Remember part of the excuse for invading any Middle East country? That a cutoff of oil will “devastate the economy”
Well, guess what? The money pi$$ed away to keep the oil flowing has devastated the economy anyway.
The good news is the people who said we were only fighting for “cheap oil” have been discredited.
The drone aircraft are not flown by uniformed military personel. After all, it’s not war if the military is not involved.
X-GS, I’ll bet that most of those who voted for Obama never suspected that he would embark on any military misadventures. Fool me once, shame on you, etc etc.
“X-GS, I’ll bet that most of those who voted for Obama never suspected that he would embark on any military misadventures.”
So vote for a candidate who’s words are consistent with his actions and voting record. If ending military misadventures is important to you, the candidate far and away most likely to successfully do so is Ron Paul.
Obama inherited Afghanistan and Iraq.
Our involvement in Libya was minimal, at least as far as “boots on the ground” is concerned.
So, two were going before he got into office, and WE got dragged into Libya because of our “alligator mouth/hummingbird ass NATO-so-called-”allies”, who have been able to cover that deal, but evidently only budgeted for about 3 days worth of smart bombs. (I exaggerate, but not by much)
See the Robert Gates speech to NATO on 6/09/2011.
Obama inherited Afghanistan and Iraq.
Are you suggesting he played no role while he was in Congress?
—Obama inherited Afghanistan and Iraq.—
Really, inheritance is not something for which one volunteers. When one asks for something, as Obie did, he needs embrace it. If he wasn’t up to dealing with it, he should not have asked for that responsibility.
BTW, while the MSM is reporting a build of oil today, the actual truth is another 4.8 million barrels of oil came out of the SPR. If you added up all the changes in stocks, we have 400,000 less barrels of oil in storage this week than last. Not a significant decline but the decline has been going on for a number of week. I don’t think we are taking more out of the SPR than has been announced, it just has taken longer to remove the 30 million barrels than the MSM had reported, but I do not know that for sure, I will continue to monitor the EIA website to see if we exceed 30 million barrels.
I gotta idea. Call it the “Nigerian Plan”
Rent a deep water drilling rig. Put it in international waters.
Slant drill into the SPR.
As long as you don’t get greedy, nobody will miss it.
“until they turn from Islam”
I’m not sure I understand this.
Islam should be uniting them. If religion can’t, what can? Secularism? Another dictator?
The Associated Press
August 30, 2011, 6:49AM ET
Consumer confidence expected to drop in August
By ANNE D’INNOCENZIO
NEW YORK
Consumer confidence likely dropped in August as worries about the economy fueled the widest stock market swings since the financial meltdown in 2008.
The souring mood raises concerns about shoppers’ ability to spend during the critical back-to-school season.
Economists surveyed by FactSet expect that the Conference Board, a private research group, will report Tuesday that consumer confidence fell to 53.3 this month, down from 59.5 in July. That would be its lowest point since October 2010, when confidence was at 49.9. The July reading was up slightly after two months of declines.
The index measures how shoppers feel about business conditions, the job market and the next six months. It had been recovering fitfully since hitting an all-time low of 25.3 in February 2009.
A reading above 90 indicates the economy is on solid footing; above 100 signals strong growth. Economists watch the number closely because consumer spending including major items like health care, accounts for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity.
The report is expected at 10 a.m. EDT.
“Consumers are realizing that economic conditions are not likely to get a whole lot better soon,” said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wells Fargo Bank.
With the nation’s unemployment rate stuck at 9 percent and home values still weak, there’s not much to be confident about, he said. Shoppers also face rising costs for everything from food to gas, and they’re paying more this fall for clothing as merchants make up for higher labor costs in China and a spike in raw materials costs.
The Conference Board index — based on a random survey of consumers sent to 5,000 households from Aug. 1 to Aug. 18 — captured the wildest week on Wall Street since the financial crisis in 2008.
Four days into the survey period, on Aug. 5, Standard & Poor downgraded the U.S. federal debt and concern revived about the health of European banks. The Dow Jones industrial average had four 400-point swings in a row for the first time in its 115-year history during the week that ended Aug. 12.
The Dow Jones industrial average has fallen 9.3 percent since its recent peak on July 21. It is down 0.3 percent for the year. Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index has fallen 10 percent since July 21 and remains down 3.8 percent for the year.
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ECONOMY
AUGUST 30, 2011, 1:44 P.M. ET
Consumer Confidence Plunges
By KATHLEEN MADIGAN
The mood among U.S. consumers plummeted in August, perhaps as a consequence of the debt-ceiling debate in Washington, according to a report released Tuesday.
The Conference Board, a private research group, said its index of consumer confidence dropped to 44.5 this month, from a revised 59.2 in July, first reported as 59.5.
The August reading is the lowest since April 2009 and was far worse than the 52.0 expected by economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires.
The mood among U.S. consumers plummeted in August, perhaps as a consequence of the debt-ceiling debate in Washington. Kathleen Madigan has details on Lunch Break.
Consumer expectations for economic activity over the next six months plunged to 51.9 from a revised 74.9, originally reported as 75.4.
The present situation index, a gauge of consumers’ assessment of current economic conditions, slipped to 33.3 from an unrevised 35.7.
Lynn Franco, director of the Conference Board Consumer Research Center, said a contributing factor to the decline “may have been the debt-ceiling discussions since the decline in confidence was well underway before the S&P downgrade” of U.S. Treasury debt.
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At the end of the day it is still all about the consumer.
WRAPUP 5-U.S. consumer confidence crumbles to 2-year low
Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:33pm EDT
By Leah Schnurr
NEW YORK, Aug 30 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer confidence
plunged in August to its lowest since the 2007-2009 recession,
after a bruising battle over the U.S. budget slammed stock
prices and pushed the nation to the brink of default.
Tuesday’s data kept alive concerns the United States could
slide back into recession, spurring investors to buy government
bonds on bets the Federal Reserve would try harder to push down
borrowing costs.
The private-sector Conference Board said its index of
consumer attitudes sank to 44.5, from a downwardly revised 59.2
in July. The August reading was the weakest since April 2009,
when the country still languished in recession, while the drop
was the largest since October 2008.
“What we are effectively going through is a crisis of
confidence,” said Tom Porcelli, an economist at RBC Capital
Markets in New York.
Economists had expected a much-less-pronounced decline.
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RIM SHOT!
“What we are effectively going through is a crisis of
confidence,”
BS. What we are effectively going through is a crisis of goods and services. Problem is, IMO goods and services have an upper limit of about 6% profit per year. The Wall Street yahoos want 11% profit, 12% next year, and the based their borrowing and swaps on that. Now that they have run out of fat to cut and employees to screw and outsourcing to do, they are out of options and their brains shut off and they resort to feelings and ego trips.
Yeah, we’re all just imagining that we are making 30% less, and everything essential costs 20% more.
Okay……I’m confident………still going………crap.
My paycheck stayed the same, and prices are still going up.
I guess my pessimism means I’m not a “team player”.
“…critical back to school season…..”
Don’t know how it is everywhere else, but our BTS season around here was in late July/first week in August.
Several companies have run into problems with the big call centers in the deep South of the USA ,many folks just cannot understand the Southern twang or drawl ,or whatever you call it . This runs across all ethnic groups , and is a problem the Companies will not admit , they just move the centers off someplace where it is cold in winters.
Go to Nebraska to find a nationally recognizable voice, like Johnny Carson’s.
Many years ago Candid Camera did a segment where southerners were shown a box of All detergent and a can of motor oil. They were asked what each item was. The two answers were indistinguishable, and came out as something like “awl.”
When we were in the process of moving here I stopped at a small, local shop to buy something, and I still remember how hard it was to understand what the young woman was trying to say to me.
I love how “y’all” is one person, and “all y’all” is the plural.
My wife visited a friend of hers in South Carolia. Had a heck of a time figuring out what bold peanuts were. You know, you put them in some bowling water for a few minutes. Bowling water?
Then she saw them on a menu. Oh, boiled peanuts.
And I bet a lot of them young’ns never gradeeated hasskoo, either!
Subprime mortgage bonds are now more “too-big-to-fail” than U.S. Treasurys?
Go figure…
Bloomberg
Subprime Mortgage Bonds Get AAA Rating From S&P Denied to U.S.
August 30, 2011, 8:22 PM EDT
By Zeke Faux and Jody Shenn
Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — Standard & Poor’s is giving a higher rating to securities backed by subprime home loans, the same type of investments that led to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, than it assigns the U.S. government.
S&P is poised to provide AAA grades to 59 percent of Springleaf Mortgage Loan Trust 2011-1, a set of bonds tied to $497 million lent to homeowners with below-average credit scores and almost no equity in their properties. New York-based S&P stripped the U.S. of its top rank on Aug. 5, saying Washington politics were making the country less creditworthy.
Treasuries gained about 1.95 percent and U.S. borrowing costs have fallen to record lows as investors repudiated the downgrade, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch indexes. S&P has awarded AAAs to more than $36 billion of securities in the U.S. this year that were created by bankers who continue to gather thousands of loans, bundle them into bonds of varying risk and pay ratings firms a fee to assign credit rankings.
“Everybody has been led to believe over the years that AAA means AAA means AAA across the board,” Gregory W. Smith, the general counsel for the $41 billion Public Employees’ Retirement Association of Colorado, said in a telephone interview on Aug. 24. “Anybody that didn’t learn in the 2008 crisis that doesn’t apply should find another line of work.”
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You would think subprime was dead and buried. No, the Justice Dept. has a group that makes sure banks are providing mortgage loans to subprime borrowers, and putting pressure on banks that they deem as not doing enough such lending. (Article in today’s WSJ)
Sub-prime itself was not the problem. If the loans are given on houses that are near their fundamental value in terms of price/rent, and if the income supports repaying the loan, then I’m less concerned than I was when houses were selling for 2x rent and little to no income verification was being done.
Let’s say the condo down the street from me, that would rent for $500 a month, is being sold for $25K plus $200 a month Condo fee.
Is there really a huge risk just because they have suck credit score if we’re selling it someone with a solid $1500 a month income?
Sure, if house prices again begin to detach from fundamentals, then we should pull back on sup-prime. Sure, in areas where house prices have not return to fundamental price/rent stability levels, we should not be doing large numbers of sub-prime loans.
However, in places where prices are at fundamental level or in overcorrection phase, I see no problem with subprime loans.
Agreed. If interest rates were a little higher, I’d lend money to anyone secured by residential real estate as long as that property would cash flow as a rental at the amount that I’m financing. I’d like to see proof of some kind of income as well and at least a nominal down payment so I can have some assurance that they won’t first payment default, but as long as the purchase price is appropriate, I’ll loan my money all day at 3.5% down and payments at 50% of monthly income or less. AZ is a trustee sale state and I know worst case scenario is I have to wait 90 days for the trustee sale to occur. And the 3.5% down payment should ensure I at least break even after this process is complete.
Again, this all hinges on fundamentally supported purchase prices.
Of course, subprime mortgage bonds are safer than treasuries.
In its last act before going insolvant, the federal government will bail out the purchasers of those bonds…
“I’m not debt yet.”
Bloomberg
Long Bond Shows No Double Dip in Widening Treasury Curve
August 29, 2011, 3:05 PM EDT
By Cordell Eddings
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — Bond investors are backing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s forecast that the U.S. will avoid another recession.
The economy has never contracted with the difference between 10- and 30-year Treasury yields as wide as the current 1.34 percentage points, or 134 basis points, since the so-called long bond was first issued in 1977. The gap, which is more than double the 49 basis-point average of the past 20 years, has ranged from negative 56 to positive 41.9 at the start of the last five recessions, beginning in January 1980.
While reports this month showed manufacturing dropped to a two-year low and the worst consumer confidence since November 2008, investors say the Fed’s pledge to keep interest rates near zero until mid-2013 will underpin growth. The Commerce Department may say today that personal spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy, rose 0.5 percent in July, above the 0.3 percent average since 2000, according to the median of more than 60 estimates in a Bloomberg News survey.
“There is a lot of fear, but U.S. growth is not dead,” Andrew Richman, who oversees $10 billion as a strategist in Palm Beach, Florida, for SunTrust Bank’s private wealth management division, said in an Aug. 26 interview.
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I’d gladly trade a pint of sustainability for a peck of growth.
This “growth” thing is funny. I guess when people pay more for things (even though their wages haven’t gone up), it’s supposed to be a good thing. Don’t know why that is, but everyone celebrates when things get more expensive and our purchasing power is reduced thanks to all the games being played by the Fed.
I’d also be much happier with a *sustainable* economy, rather than a “growing” economy, if that growth is simply the result of prices getting higher.
Wall Street Haunted by ‘08 Loses Risk Appetite: Credit Markets
August 29, 2011, 9:51 AM EDT
By Shannon D. Harrington
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — Wall Street traders are demanding the biggest premiums to buy and sell credit in almost two years as they seek protections from market swings driven by Europe’s debt crisis and a slowing global economy.
A measure of the cost of trading credit-default swaps has tripled this month as prices gyrate the most in 13 months, according to data compiled by Bloomberg and CMA in London. Amid the volatility, the biggest bond dealers cut their holdings of corporate securities to $73.1 billion as of Aug. 17, the least since July 2009, Federal Reserve data show.
The surge underscores the fragility of credit markets three years after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. triggered the biggest corporate bond losses in at least 35 years. With junk-rated securities poised to lose the most this month since November 2008, banks and investors are bracing for broader declines on concern Europe’s fiscal imbalances will infect the banking system at a time when the economy may not be strong enough to withstand such headwinds.
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“… junk-rated securities poised to lose the most this month since November 2008 …”
Such them in, shake them out.
The yield-hungry were sucked in by the high yields offered by junk bonds and such and were led to believe via the annnouncements of the PTB’s MSM-mouthpieces that the economy was in recovery mode.
Now reality once again is raising its ugly head and these smucks have now been turned into panicked sellers.
Churn ‘em and burn ‘em.
Bank debt vultures need to curb their appetites for now, or else run the risk of catching themselves falling knives.
Bloomberg
‘Too Early’ for Bank Debt as Housing Weakens, Seix’s Keegan Says
August 30, 2011, 2:28 PM EDT
By Sapna Maheshwari
Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) — Investors shouldn’t load up on financial bonds even after the worst declines in 30 months because home prices may drop further as the economy slows, said Seix Investment Advisors Inc. Chief Investment Officer Jim Keegan.
“It’s a little early,” said Keeegan, whose firm manages about $27 billion from Upper Saddle River, New Jersey, and reduced its bank bond holdings toward the end of the second quarter. “We’re in the process of re-examining our outlook on housing prices and may take that estimate down even further,” said Keegan, whose $729 million RidgeWorth Total Return Bond Fund has beaten 99 percent of its peers in the past month.
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Did Bernanke actually suggest more stimulus was on the way in his Jackson Hole speech, or is this merely an example of Fed cargo cult wishful thinking?
Bloomberg
U.S. Company Credit Risk Falls on Speculation About Fed Stimulus
August 30, 2011, 6:00 PM EDT
By Mary Childs
Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) — A benchmark gauge of U.S. corporate credit risk fell today, contributing toward the biggest two-day drop in more than eight months on speculation the Federal Reserve will enact more stimulus to safeguard the recovery.
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“Safeguard the recovery” is doublespeak. A recovery has its own legs. A decline needs props.
+1, Blue Skye
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2940729
(similar story on MSNBC)
A virtual store with no products
Homeplus, the nation’s second largest discount chain, announced yesterday that it will open what it calls a “fourth generation retail store,” Homeplus Smart Virtual Store, at Seolleung subway station in southern Seoul today…
“Consumers will be able to order and get delivery of 35,000 products, ranging from milk, egg, pasta sauce, gochujang [Korean red pepper paste], tissues and digital cameras, by simply pulling out their smartphones and scanning QR [Quick Response] or barcodes of products shown in the subway station with the Homeplus app,” Lee said.
[or you can order directly from the product bottle] “For example, if you want to order replacements of a bottle of water that you have in your hand, you don’t have to stop by the subway station,” Lee said. “You simply scan the bottle’s barcode with the Homeplus app.” The products are delivered later to home or office.”
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Gee, 150 years ago, people did much the same thing. You went to the General Store, pointed at what you wanted, and the clerk got it for you and wrapped it up, or delivered it later. You could even get a line of store credit.* The next innovation was cash-and-carry,** which saved time because you didn’t have to wait for the clerk. Here, the only “new” innovation I see is that they take your money faster, before you can change your mind.
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*Amazon does this today.
**As late as the 1970’s, stores had to put up a “cash and carry” sign to inform the elderly that it was a cash-and-carry store.
The Sears model.
Bring back the catalog house kit.
Quite a few of the Sears Craftsman houses are still standing here in Tucson. You can see them in the nabes that surround Downtown.
Isn’t this largely bringing a “just in time” supply system to the ordinary consumer? I use up the last of my milk on my cereal one morning and instead of going to the store on the way home, I scan the bar code on the milk carton before I thow it away?
I can see this as being OK if the following is true:
1) delivery charges are neglible
2) delivery is same day and very reliable
3) delivery time can be chosen in a very narrow window so that there is someone home to take care of perishables
4) the customer doesn’t care about shopping sales and/or using coupons
5) the customer doesn’t care about choosing his or her own items for produce
Somehow, I doubt that 1, 2, and 3 are true of the service. Some customers might fit in with 4 and 5, but I sure don’t. I can see it working for an emergency, but otherwise, I’m in the who cares category.
It also might work for people who buy a lot of heavy groceries but don’t have cars.
“Products will be delivered at a time chosen by consumers, and delivery fees will range from 1,000 won ($0.92) to 4,000 won depending on the hour of the day,” Sunny Jung, an official at Homeplus told the Korea JoongAng Daily. “A Homeplus store close to a customer’s address will deliver the products. Each store will make deliveries every two hours for a total of 10 times a day.”
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Probably too expensive for a single item like milk. It still sounds like an impulse buy gimmick.
People with heavy groceries take a cab home, or use a wheeled cart, or shop more than once a week.
ISTR that Webvan tried the same thing. And that was one of the biggest flops of the dotcom era.
BTW, one of its major funders was Louis Borders. Of recently failed bookstore fame.
In my area the local grocery store does online ordering and delivery. It’s expensive, like $15, but it’s probably good for shut-ins who only order food once a month or so.
U.S. Companies Add Fewer-Than-Estimated 91,000 Workers in August, ADP Says
By Bob Willis - Aug 31, 2011 5:39 AM PT
Companies in the U.S. added 91,000 workers to payrolls in August, according to a private survey.
The increase followed a revised 109,000 gain the prior month, according to data from ADP Employer Services. The median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for an advance of 100,000.
The economy needs to generate more jobs on a sustained basis in order to bring down unemployment, which has been at 9 percent or higher in 25 of the past 27 months. A Labor Department report in two days is projected to show businesses added 100,000 jobs in August, down from a 154,000 increase in July, according to the median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg.
“The labor market continues to struggle,” Sean Incremona, a senior economist at 4Cast Inc. in New York, said before the report. “There is too much uncertainty that is restraining firms from committing resources to hiring.”
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That “uncertainty” is a lack of demand — the obvious result of the off-shoring of our jobs over the past 30 years, not to mention the income tax policies of the past decade that rewarded gambling over working (how in the world can anyone justify taxing cap gains and dividends at lower rates than labor???). Supposedly, as we lost our jobs, our ex-bosses were going to get richer…and this was supposed to rain down on the rest of us somehow.
Trickle-down economics does not work.
“…(how in the world can anyone justify taxing capital gains and dividends at lowere rates thn labor???)
It doesn’t end there: Not only are taxes on labor higher, there are more of them (i.e. Social security, Medicare, SIT. etc.).
Plus there are tax deductions for capital losses but none for labor losses (except, maybe, unemployment insurance).
http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/31/real_estate/housing_market_foreclosures/index.htm?source=cnn_bin
“….Four years into the housing crisis, the real estate market is still teetering on the edge. The Obama administration has tried one program after another to stem the tide of foreclosures with limited success. And it is continuing….”
Four years?
Yep, four years. And it will be another four years, and four years after that, if they continue with their idiotic attempts to artificially prop up housing prices.
The efforts to prop up the housing market by the administration have been half-hearted at best. Seriously. HAMP was voluntary, and the subsidy was a minimal, meant only to offset part of the cost of the paperwork. The new program (getting investors to buy the houses and rent them) is in such early planning stages that it doesn’t have a name and can’t possibly work without massive subsidies that the current Congress won’t approve. The “new” buyer tax credit is over and a lot of people who took it are already starting to regret it. If they leave those houses too soon, they will have to pay it back.
Other than that the only “programs” are that Fannie and Freddie and FHA and the VA still exist and the Fed keeping general interest rates down which by extension makes mortgage rates a bit cheaper.
Most of the “propping” up of prices is that people who can’t afford their houses are either not completely broke and therefore unwilling to sell at a loss (prices on large assets are sticky) or they are completely broke and the foreclosure apparatus hasn’t gotten around to them yet.
This post deserves a spot on the HBB Greatest Hits. Great stuff, polly.
the foreclosure apparatus hasn’t gotten around to them yet.
The Foreclosure Apparatus.
Like a giant shredding Roomba, whirling blades on waving metal tentacles, 60 feet across, splintering houses and people as it lashes about, slowly crawling through neighborhoods.
Now, lavi, stop that! You’re making me laugh too hard.
Do you remember the swather on Caligula?
Are CEOs, enabled by ginormous paychecks and the SCOTUS redefinition of “free speech,” effectively morphing into the U.S. federal government?
Or am I talking here about the barn door that was long ago left open?
Aug. 31, 2011, 8:57 a.m. EDT
Some firms paid more to CEOs than to tax man
By Greg Morcroft
NEW YORK (MarketWatch)– NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Twenty-five of the 100 firms that paid their CEOS the most last year paid those executives more than they paid in total taxes, according to a report published recently.
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Wow. Not that anyone should be surprised…
It takes talent to not show a profit!
NY is number one!
http://www.lpsvcs.com/LPSCorporateInformation/ResourceCenter/PressResources/MortgageMonitor/201107MortgageMonitor/LPSMortgage%20Monitor072011.pdf
57 years of house foreclosure inventory in the pipeline. No wonder prices haven’t crashed here yet. I am wondering how a situation like this can get resolved. Naturally, I would like to see this inventory spill out like the Johnstown flood. What is the cause for NY/NJ having such a gargantuan backlog?
For those who missed it yesterday:
New JoshuaTree Extension out which supports Firefox 6.0. In addition, Frontier has finally taken over web hosting from Verizon and it turns out they have their shit together. So you don’t have to right-click the link and save, but can simply click on it and it will install correctly (well, at least in FF6. I didn’t test this in 5.X).
Note that the link has changed - the old URL will simply redirect to this one:
http://myplace.frontier.com/~drumminj_tx/joshuatree.html
Downloaded and installed it yesterday. Works like a charm. Thanks for the update, drumminj.
I have thought about the proposal to let underwater home owners refinance their pre-bubble mortgages @ 4% and I think it would net-net be positive for the middle class, especially if the loans were transferable to future 1st. time buyers. That, along with cutting off the MID at $150k and closing loopholes on second home and investment RE properties would lop off 1-2 trillion in future revenue shortfalls in 10-15 years.
I am a so glad to see the Obama administration block the ATT T-mobil merger. We really don’t need a bigger ATT or Verizon. Mergers destroy jobs and concentrate wealth. (I’m a share holder too)
“I am a so glad to see the Obama administration block the ATT T-mobil merger.”
Wow, that’s outstanding! I hope they’re successful.
Except that lowering interest on those still paying provides less revenue to cover losses on those that are not. The breakeven would have to come from fewer people defaulting because of the lower payments caused by lower rates. I’m not so sure that will make much of a difference in the future foreclsoure number.
Solyndra to Declare Bankruptcy
By Scott McGrew Aug 31, 2011 | NBC Bay Area
Solyndra — recently touted as an innovator by President Obama — is reportedly shutting its doors. Employees are being turned away this morning.
Solyndra, a major manufacturer of solar technology in Fremont, has shut its doors, according to employees at the campus.
“I was told by a security guard to get my [stuff] and leave,” one employee said. The company employs a little more than 1,000 employees worldwide, according to its website.
Shortly after it opened a massive $700 million facility, it canceled plans for a public stock offering earlier this year and warned it would be in significant trouble if federal loan guarantees did not go through.
The company has said it will make a statement at 9am California time, though it’s not clear what that statement will be. An NBC Bay Area photographer on the scene reports security guards are not letting visitors on campus. He says “people are standing around in disbelief.” The employees have been given yellow envelopes with instructions on how to get their last checks.
Solyndra was touted by the Obama administration as a prime example of how green technology could deliver jobs. The President visited the facility in May of last year and said “it is just a testament to American ingenuity and dynamism and the fact that we continue to have the best universities in the world, the best technology in the world, and most importantly the best workers in the world. And you guys all represent that. ”
The federal government offered $535 million in low cost loan guarantees from the Department of Energy. NBC Bay Area has contacted the White House asking for a statement.
Some Republicans have been very critical of the loans. “I am concerned that the DOE is providing loans and loan guarantees to firms that aren’t capable of competing in the global market, even with government subsidies” Florida Congressman Cliff Stearns told the New York Times.
It’s not just the new start-up companies. Check out USEC Inc. the one private company exclusively making uranium fuel for the nuclear industry. They need 500 million in loan guarantees to stay in business and they don’t even have to pay for the raw materials. If they fold up the only other place to get enriched uranium will be from foreign suppliers. USU Stock used to be over $20 share back in 2007 now it’s $2.20.
20% of US electrical power comes from nuclear power and now even that may end up coming from over seas.
The real winners in the “Green Revolution” were those adept at milking the FedCow. The company in question had funny “unique” technology that noone else was stupid enough to use. They knew how to get on the DOE gravy train though.
inflation and zimbabwe
from wikipedia
Between 2000 and December 2007, the national economy contracted by as much as 40%; inflation vaulted to over 66,000%, and there were persistent shortages of hard currency, fiat currency, fuel, medicine, and food. GDP per capita dropped by 40%, agricultural output dropped by 51% and industrial production dropped by 47%.
The point - printing money won’t increase GDP or tax revenue once people have depleted savings, can’t increase household income, and can’t borrow more money, and are already spending all they make on food and fuel. Economic collapse will occur gutting all demand and causing 80% unemployment. They noted in the wikipedia that in 2006 a nurses daily pay was less than the price of a soda pop. Once daily pay does not cover transportation and fuel people stop going to work and turn to crime.
The people of LA are being asked to finance a stadium for a billionaire with all the profit going to him and all the risk to the taxpayer.The media of course is all supportive of this horrible plan with hardly a naysayer in the bunch, it shameful and sad to see this happening.
They will pay the city back w/ expected revenues from the stadium( rosy perdictions) these perdictions are 230,000,000 over 30 years that 7,000,000 a year,thats not an asset it is a liability w/ AEG risking none of their own money only the taxpayers money. AEG has negotiated this deal w/ the dumbest people on the block our city council and the mayor. they have had the smartest,highest paid people going up against our council members and mayor who only want free tickets.This is a bad deal for the city of LA, may i remind the mayor and council that they are in the drivers seat not AEG…The NFL needs LA…we the citizens must scream loud and hard to stop this give away to a billionaire, and mayor Villagrosa wants higher office in this country,never vote for him…
One of the things that has made me genuinely proud of Southern California is that for 16 years we’ve avoided being bamboozled by these NFL thug owners. Don’t get me wrong, I love NFL football, but I don’t need to be at the game. Especially if some douchebag owner like Al Davis tells me that “I” have to pay “him” before I can have the privilege of paying “him” for an admission ticket.
Here in Tucson, we have no pro sports teams. Other than minor league baseball, that is.
What we do have is University of Arizona sports, and oh, is that followed to the nth degree.
Yes, there are pro teams in Phoenix, but hey, that’s Phoenix. This is Tucson. Where the locals look down on Phoenix.
“Where the locals look down on Phoenix.”
Cruel! =) And actually, you look up (north) at us…
Thanks to whoever recommended “The secret of Oz” on youtube. I just finished watching it this morning and I must say that it was very informative. Thanks. I am getting ready to watch The Money Masters next. I would like to see Too Big to Fail, but I don’t have HBO.
From the “How far has X-GSfixr gone down the crapper?” file.
Brother is getting married in Las Vegas this weekend. Have had this trip planned for six months.
It only occurred to me today that with weddings come bridesmaids……and friends of the bride. Since the bride is in her mid-late 30s, I’m assuming most of her friends are approximately the same age.
Me……single, 50 something guy (but I look younger)
In Vegas, with a bunch of 30-40 something friends of the bride.
And here I was, thinking about going to see the “Blue Man Group”…….my testostrone gage must be bouncing on “E”……….
Stay home X. If those brideymaids get their hands on an old fool like you, it could be hazardous to your longevity. Didn’t you get enough the first ride on that zaney rollercoaster?
HAHA!
Yeah, I know……
There’s still a part of me that buys into that “soulmate” fantasy.
But then, reality crushes the fantasy.
I need to quit listening to 1960s/ Motown/Barry White type music, and start listening to 2000s rap.
I need to quit listening to 1960s/ Motown/Barry White type music, and start listening to 2000s rap.
Ummm, give it a pass.
Why? Because, as a fixer of inanimate objects, I’m sure you already know how to use colorful language. (I sure used such language when I worked in the bike shop. Some of those bikes wouldn’t have been repaired without my cussing at them.)
I doubt that rap would teach you any new things about salty words.
I thought you were taking issue with my choice of Barry White?
(Actually, I’m a bigger fan of his “Love Unlimited Orchestra” stuff. I just started imitating his singing because it pizzed my daughters off so much.)
“But then, reality crushes the fantasy.”
The trick is to make sure this occurs BEFORE you get married or have kids!
Now you tell me……..
Read a story that J.P. Morgan wrote that it expects QE III to begin on September 21, 2011. Earlier, I read that Morgan expected gold to reach $2500 by the end of the year. Wonder if there is any relationship between the two stories? sarcasm off. Let see a few years ago, a $200,000 house would cost you 200 Oz of gold. At 2500 per Oz, it would cost 80 Oz. There is your housing price collapse. Too bad we are paid in fiat dollars and not gold.
What were they saying about real estate and MBS in 2006?
What were they saying during the crash of 2008?
My guess is what they say in public has everything to do with their current investments and not their predictions about the future.
I’ve come to the same conclusion about corn. There is no such thing as speculation. The Aztecs used it for currency. When corn reaches its true potential, I’ll be able to buy a mansion for a few tins. Life is good!
And now for something totally off-topic.
“As of Tuesday, August 30, 2011, at least 4,474 members of the U.S. military had died in the Iraq war since it began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.”
Let’s see. 130K troops took part in the initial invasion. Peak troop count was about 160K in 2005. They kept talking that drawdown was iminant, but in 2008 there were still 140K. When the multi-national force stood down at the end of 2009, there were still over 110K US troops in Iraq. End of 2011 is the final, final deadline to have all combat troops out of Iraq except we now expect ALL OUT to mean all but abuot 15,000-20,000.
So, let’s say that we averaged something like 125K troops in Iraq for 8 years. That is a nice round, 1 million man years. That would mean we have expereinced 474 deaths per 100,000 per year.
Well, in the United States, 20-something males have a death rate of about 140 per 100K per year. That means that statistically speaking, 1400 of those 4500-ish of those killed would be dead anyway.
In short, a 20-y/o having participated in the invasion, then having been stationed in Iraq for 8 years after, would have been only 3x more likely you would have died than had they lived in the USA for that time.
Compare to WWII. 16 million total served, but peak was 12 million. Best I could find made it look like we averaged 10 million for 4 years. 40 million man years. Do not have any idea what % of those were stateside vs. deployed to war zone.
We lost 416,800 military deaths. About 1050 deaths per 100K. So, just being in the military during WWII was 2.5x as deadly as being stationed in Iraq during the last 8 years.
Fun with statistics.
Fun with statistics.
More Americans are killed by crime in JUST Philadelphia than in combat operations in Iraq - for several years now…
More Americans are killed by smoking related activities and motor vehicle accidents (per year) than by all 9-11/terrorists combined - since forever…
Show of hands: Who has a family member who suffered some sort of disability as a result of their military service? I can count at least one in my family.
I have a second cousin who was diagnosed with PTSD and Gulf War Syndrome……. while serving in a Kuwait motor pool.
Unfortunately, they didn’t interview anyone in the family, who could have told them this kid was fooked in the head/druggied out before he even entered high school.
(He opted, after dad pulled a few strings with his old Army buddies, to join the Army, rather than go to jail for burglary…..ain’t plea bargains great?).
Pretty much everyone who has been on the flightline for any length of time is partially deaf. Does that count?
I lived in Colorado Springs before divorce. My wife and 3 duaghters stayed there. Anyone that knows CoSpgs knows 80% of the single guys in town are stationed at Fort Carson.
I middle daughter’s husband is on partial disability with a blown knee sufferd diving into a fox hole when his unit came under fire.
My youngest was engaged to a guy that went with the 10th mountain during the surge into a previously unpatrolled area of Afghanistan. He was shipped home in a pine box 2 years ago this month.
The eldest daughter’s husband was a good friend of the fiancee (which is how the youngest met him). After seeing Richie and several other good friends blown up, he got himself a Big Chicken Dinner (Bad Conduct Discharge for those of you that never served in the military) from a suspected self-inflected wound to his lower leg. He’s still a PTSD headcase on disability…
So, yeah, I know that the injuries are the larger portion of the casualties, and I know the deaths are real people.
I was specifically responding to an article about deaths.
Show of hands: Who has a family member who suffered some sort of disability as a result of their military service? I can count at least one in my family.
My wife is 20% service connected from Desert Storm and we lost a nephew in Iraq in 2005. My only service connected disability is extreme cynicism.
dude, you really need to open your eyes. Do you have any idea what the non-fatal casualty rate is over there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Estimates that about 700 per month are seriously injured. Let alone the 150k Iraqi’s dead. Walter Reed estimates that 63% of the patients they see have brain injuries. With all respect possible, dead soldiers are a minor problem compared to the injured living. It’s pretty clear that politicians appreciate dead soldiers more than injured ones, they get to claim the glory and honor of a fallen hero without having to pay the bill of an injured one.
“Nothing is too good for our injured soldiers. And nothing is what they’ll get.” — from a documentary about injured soldiers, name escapes me, quote stuck.
Now do it figuring in how many with severe brain damage and lost limbs. My guess is the conclusions will be dramatically different.
Vietnam was about twice as “safe” statistically, as WWII was.
For argument’s sake, I’ve been making the point that we’ve been making war “too safe”, at least as far as our guys are concerned.
Ditto with the “volunteer force”. We now have our very own Prussians. Full time, career military guys. Throw a bunch of draftees, and a bunch more KIA in the mix, and a bunch of this crap would end.
Draftees should start with the 1%ers kids, and work their way down. After all, they have a lot more to “defend” than they typical Section 8 resident.
Best ones I like are the guys who are “government contractors” all week, then go home, change clothes, and come back to the SAME PLACE for National Guard duty.
One of our strengths in WWI and Korea (and to a lesser extent, Kuwait) was the call up of the genuine “citizen soldier”. Guys that were pizzed off about being called up, were stuck for the duration of hostilities, and wanted to go out and kick ass ASAP, so they could go home.
Ron Paul on Talk of the Nation (NPR) today. I think he handled the FEMA issue well. He said it should be handled by the states. I was a little leery of that comment, but it was his follow-up comment that hooked me. Bring the troops home from this disaster of a war, saving $10B/month, and re-allocate individual National Guard troops (who have been mis-allocated to the wars) to assist and take over FEMA’s role.
As of right now, it’s full crackpot ticket for me in 2012:
Paul / Kucinich 2012
“…..handled by the states……”
The same states that actually have to balance their budgets every year?
One major disaster, and any of the Flyover states would be bankrupt. And the National Guard, nor anyone else is going to show up to help, unless they get paid.
See Joplin Missouri in 5 years. Evidently, the promised “aid” isn’t showing up (now that the photo-ops are done). Guess we’ll gonna see how that “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” plan works.
I guess sod huts will be coming back in style.
I hear ya, but I don’t think this is an unreasonable idea, especially if his $20B number is accurate:
““No, it is a system of bureaucratic central economic planning which is a policy that is deeply flawed. So no, you don’t get rid of something like that in one day. As a matter of fact, I have had the position for a long time and the people keep re-electing me and I have a coastal district. But I also suggested that there is different way to finance this too because FEMA is in big trouble financially. Their flood program is about $20 billion in debt.”
Paul told Wallace he would be against voting for any sort of bailout for the financially beleaguered entity unless Obama would consider cutting $2 billion from the military actions in Libya.
“Well, where does the money come from?” Paul said. “Go hat in hand to China and borrow the money? But, I would consider what I just said because I have precise beliefs in what we should do and transition out of the dependency on the federal government. But I would say, ‘Yes, Obama you want a billion dollars? Cut $2 billion and quit the war in Libya that is undeclared and unconstitutional – bring the troops home, save a billion dollars and put that billion against the deficit and tide our people over.””
So the plan is to replace a Washington bureaucracy with 50 “little ones”?
As far as budgets, I’d like to see someone claim they can write a “budget” for natural disasters that haven’t happened yet.
Paul falls into the Republican “all government is bad” gang. He forgets that most of these “bloated buracracies” exist because the private sector was unable/unwilling to solve these problems.
Want to see a “privatized” government function in action? Try flying a corporate airplane in Europe, under “Eurocontrol”
Here, air traffic control is paid for with a nationwide fuel tax.
Over there, every country that you use the ATC system in, whether you land there or not, sends you a bill for “ATC services”.
My current airplane flew to Geneva, Milan, and London a few months ago. We got 10 different invoices for ATC services.
I’m not afraid of Ron Paul, nor do I put him in the “all gov’t is bad” gang. There are enough checks in place to make sure he doesn’t go full crackpot. He is the only one on the right talking any logic on the issues. Whether you agree with him or not (and I don’t on several issues), he backs up why he thinks what he thinks. The others are all talking points, all the time.
He and Kucinich are the only two who have voted NO on the wars on (to my understanding) all votes and who want to audit or end the Fed. They seem to be the only ones addressing perhaps the two most important issues, the resolution of which would pay dividends across so many other issues.
“nor do I put him in the “all gov’t is bad” gang.”
and
“the resolution of which would pay dividends across so many other issues.”
If I might respond to myself, notice his comments about giving $1B if he gets $2B. He realizes that not all of his ideas will fly or will be popular (getting rid of FEMA, for example). As consideration for that, he wants the war ended. I interpreted his comments as: “If we weren’t in this expensive, illegal war we’d have money that could be used for the American people…on things the American people may deem as acceptable for the gov’t to provide such as FEMA.”
And besides, he didn’t say privatize it. He said use the Nat’l Guard for (what is part of) their intended purpose.
You guys have a lot more faith in local government than I do……if there is any entity I have less faith in, it is the numbskulls in State/Local government. Nothing will turn the USA into the Balkans faster than handing power back to the states.
Out here in Bible-Thumper/Church of Prosperity Land. a natural disaster will be seen by our current governor as God’s plan to “smite” the heathens/Democrats/Socialists-who-used-to-be-called-Moderate Republicans, and obtaining disaster relief will require you to take a pizz test.
I guess you can call local government more “democratic”, in that local politicos are cheaper to bribe, thus making it possible for J6P to buy a few politicians.
I’m an “equal opportunity” cynic.
But again, I think what he’s suggesting is that, “okay, you want your Federally provided disaster coverage? Fine, I don’t agree, but it’s what the people want, so we can pay for that if we end the wars which are a bigger waste of money/resources.”
I like that ability to create ideas, negotiate, be objectively flexible, and build a plan.
“Out here in Bible-Thumper/Church of Prosperity Land. a natural disaster will be seen by our current governor as God’s plan…”
LOL, I can see how that could be an issue.
Speaking of states handling disaster response, I spoke to my aunt in Waterbury, VT yesterday.
You may have heard about how badly this town got flooded. Well, according to Aunt Jean, the stories are true. Waterbury got pretty soggy.
And Cousin Tom, her oldest son, can’t get to that general contracting job he’s been doing. Roads are still closed.
During Irene’s visit, the state’s communication system went down. It’s also located in Waterbury.
Well, cue up Waterbury’s spunky little radio station, WDEV. It stayed on the air 24/7 and kept Vermonters in touch with each other. Usually, WDEV goes off the air at midnight.
I’m still waiting to hear whether WDEV will air its regular Saturday morning show, “Music to Go to the Dump By.”
Fed’s Lockhart: No Policy Can Be Ruled Out
Bloomberg
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta President Dennis Lockhart said the Fed should be ready to consider more monetary easing even while it can’t be expected to eliminate some of the forces impeding economic growth.
“Given the weak data we’ve seen recently and considering the rising concern about chronic slow growth or worse, I don’t think any policy option can be ruled out at the moment,” Lockhart said today in the text of a speech in Lafayette, Louisiana. “However, it is important that monetary policy not be seen as a panacea.”
Fed’s Lockhart: No Policy Can Be Ruled Out
WPA? CCC? PWA?
The fed has shown itself to be totally ineffective at reverseing trade imbalances. Time for congress to step up, and I don’t mean more stimulus. I mean, directly attacking the trade imbalances.
Massive tariffs on Chinese $hit should do it.
I really really don’t think the answers lie in taking money from the people that can afford it the least . At this point the issue is where are the heists .
The point is there were grand heists that were obtained by Ponzi-schemes that crashed . So ,it was ill gotten gain ,just like in the case of Madoff . No different than Madoff in that it was a rigged system that transferred the lions share of the wealth upward to a class that
has been protected in all this mess .
Go back and charge a Ponzi-scheme retroactive tax . I’m serious .
Who made out like bandits because of the rigged system that crashed .
Transfering the pain to the 85 % of the population and letting rich Corporations or culprits off the hook is not the answer .
Ask what the culprits can do for this Country .
Warren Buffet says tax him now . i say Warren Buffet profited from a rigged Ponzi scheme ,therefore his money is the byproduct of ill gotten gain for about 20 years .
They have PR programsw in the Main stream news now that counsel people on accepting getting screwed ,as if its a problem with the people not accepting being screwed .
When people say give up give up ,its because someone else wants to take it ,or don’t want it taken from them .
How do you get the system balanced again ?
They said in the news they are taking 70 state parks in California .
Is everybody going to wait for every single thing being taken from the
85 % just so some billionaire can have 10 Mansions instead of 2 .
Whats wrong with a high percentage of the population having a decent lifestyle ? They would like you to think that the majority of the population is being bitchy wanting a decent lifestyle .
The children should take care of the seniors ,not the Social Security they were promised . take ,take take ,but don;t take from the
Raiders of America .
Is everybody going to feel better when they are proverty stricken
working your hands to the bones for peanuts ?
I’m serious ,this is just one big con job .
“No recession here in Canada…”
Economy contracts for first time since recession
Tavia Grant
Globe and Mail Update
Published Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2011 8:47AM EDT
Last updated Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2011 2:58PM EDT
The Canadian economy shrank 0.4 per cent in the second quarter of the year, the first contraction since the recession, as supply disruptions slammed exports.
The country’s gross domestic product registered a sharp slowdown in the April to June period after a revised 3.6-per-cent reading in the first quarter of the year, Statistics Canada said Wednesday.
The slump reflects a number of temporary factors, as wildfires in northern Alberta and maintenance shutdowns sliced oil productions and Japan’s tsunami caused supply disruptions. Details of the report – which show activity picked up at the end of the quarter – suggest Canada will not fall back into a recession, economists said.
“While the headline number is disappointing, the details of the report are more upbeat, and do not signal a recession,” said Diana Petramala, economist at Toronto Dominion Bank.
“Look for a better third quarter,” said Jennifer Lee, senior economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns in a note.
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DOW turns positive for 2011! Ain’t no stop’n us now… we’re on the move! DOW 12,000 here we come…Buy now or be priced out forever! The street sez… The QE-3 is getting ready to launch! Goldman-Sux told BB to STFU and print, baby print! But none for the serfs.
Great name this caring group has…
ITEM: HIV/AIDS group charged with diverting tax dollars to strip club
The Washington Examiner
D.C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan has accused a District HIV/AIDS service provider of spending nearly $330,000 in federal tax dollars to open a strip club.
In a lawsuit filed Tuesday, Nathan said Miracle Hands Inc. promised the city it was using the cash to renovate a warehouse in Northeast for use as a job training center for residents with HIV/AIDS. Instead, the warehouse was turned into the Stadium Club, a strip club that continues to operate, the suit says. Miracle Hands shares an address with the club, according to the company’s website. Nathan asked in the suit that the city be awarded at least $988,959 in damages.
D.C. Councilman David Catania requested in a February letter to Nathan that the attorney general open an investigation into Miracle Hands and its relationship with Stadium Club.
“I am pleased that the attorney general has decided to take action regarding this egregious impropriety,” Catania said Tuesday.
Attempts to reach Miracle Hands owner Cornell Jones were not successful. Jones is a self-described former D.C. drug kingpin with convictions for narcotics distribution on his record.
Cornell Jones for Mayor!
Priceless.
Maybe he just didn’t say what kind of jobs he would be providing training for? Maybe his strip-club only hires dancers with
AIDS/HIV that have been through his “training center”?
“job training center”—HA!
When they decide to move up the pay scale, they will have to attend “Miracle VaJayJay”.
(Or “Miracle Keester”, if that’s the way you roll……)
I for one have to give it up for Cornell, at least his strip club was shovel ready. Why he may have even saved some jobs at an aluminum pole factory. Come on Irvin it was only $330,000 in federal tax dollars. Just look below and you will see a California-based solar company that received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration and they are going to lay off 1,100 employees and file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. At least Cornell`s strip club continues to operate and his dacers are still employed.
Solar company to file for bankruptcy despite $535 million loan guarantee
By Andrew Restuccia - 08/31/11 12:45 PM ET
“Regulatory and policy uncertainties in recent months created significant near-term excess supply and price erosion,” Solyndra’s CEO said.
A California-based solar company that received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration announced Wednesday that it will shut down.
The company, Solyndra Inc., said Wednesday it would suspend its manufacturing operations and lay off 1,100 employees effective immediately. The company said it intends to file a petition for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
“Regulatory and policy uncertainties in recent months created significant near-term excess supply and price erosion,” Solyndra CEO Brian Harrison said in a statement. “Raising incremental capital in this environment was not possible. This was an unexpected outcome and is most unfortunate.”
The announcement comes at a tough time for the solar industry, which has faced free-falling solar panel prices.
But the Obama administration has doubled-down on its investments in the industry. The Energy Department finalized last week an $852 million loan guarantee for a separate California solar project sponsored by NextEra Energy. Earlier in August, DOE finalized a $197 million loan guarantee for solar manufacturing facilities in Oregon and California.
Solyndra received the $535 million stimulus loan guarantee from the Energy Department in 2009 to help finance the construction of a new plant to manufacture solar panels.
The Energy Department said Wednesday that it is “disappointed” that Solyndra is shutting down its manufacturing operations, but added, “We continue to believe the clean energy jobs race is one that America can, must and will win.”
“We have always recognized that not every one of the innovative companies supported by our loans and loan guarantees would succeed, but we can’t stop investing in game-changing technologies that are key to America’s leadership in the global economy,” said Dan Leistikow, director of the office of public affairs, in a blog post Wednesday.
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/179005-solar-company-that-received-obama-administration-support-to-close-its-doors -
As long as R & D is easily/legally exportable, nothing is a bigger money loser than R & D.
Excellent observation.
Which suggests the best stocks to buy are the ones where the product or service must be kept close by - meaning must not be exportable - and must entail little R&D expenditures.
Same rule goes for jobs: The best jobs are the ones that cannot be exported.
Utilities, such as power companies, and farm related jobs come to mind.
Whats the difference between a jet engine, and a pilot?
The jet engine quits whining when the trip is finished.
I knew a guy who worked there. I haven’t spoken to him for a long time, but when I spoke to him last, he commented that all of his team’s cost savings ideas (with quick payback for the cost to get the savings) were ignored by management. His comment: “selling a product for less than it costs to build is not a business, it’s a hobby”
I guess fiscal reality got in the way of a nice hobby.
“selling a product for less than it costs to build is not a business, it’s a hobby”
Solyndra received the $535 million stimulus loan guarantee from the Energy Department in 2009 to help finance the construction of a new plant to manufacture solar panels.
“but we can’t stop investing in game-changing technologies that are key to America’s leadership in the global economy,” said Dan Leistikow, director of the office of public affairs,
I liked the Governator’s plan for Green Jobs infinitely better than the US Government’s. There was a law passed in California that gave a sales tax exemption for any equipment purchased in California for the manufacture of “green” products in the state.
Don’t pick a winner, but encourage job creating investment in the state…I don’t know if the state spent $535 million on the program, but I guarantee you whatever they did spend by virtue of the tax break made a bigger impact that this focused loan.
Disaster.
http://realestate.msn.com/more-short-sales-bring-new-scam-flopping?page=2
Question(s):
Has anyone tried to rent a home in their particular market recently? If so, how was the experience? Lots of supply? No supply? High rents? Low rents? Just curious as to what people are seeing out there. I’ve heard a few anecdotes recently and trying to expand my sample set…
I just rented out the house that I bought back in the spring for $19k. Its a 2/1 in a decent neighborhood for the area and I just signed up a couple for $550/mo. My take on the current rental market is that you have to be in the low end of affordability and it seems people are downsizing even rental properties.
How long did it take you to rent the house? Were you listing it the entire time?
4 years ago I was begging the wife to sell. At that time, I could have rented on this street for $1300 a month.
Late spring, a for rent sign went up down the street. After it was up a couple months, I got curious and called to see what they were asking. $1100.
When I said thanks and went to hang up, he asked “what will it take to get you into this house?”. I answered, “buy my house for about $50K over market.”
Is the “for rent” sign still up? Or was it rented? How long did it take?
LaDainian Tomlinson’s Poway mansion is for sale:
“Tomlinson has placed his 9,564-square-foot Poway home, built in 2004, on the market. Asking price: $5.2 million. Annual taxes: $40,398.”
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/31/tomlinsons-poway-home-sale/
http://www.antigenrealty.com/properties_detail1/106/SanDiegoChargersHouseSanDiegoChargersHomesCelebrityHomesRealEstate
From the pics, that’s one nice spread.
That’s cool — the entertainment industry has its own special realtors and real estate web sites…
San Diego’s McMillin Realty lays off workers
Written by Lily Leung
6 a.m., Aug. 30, 2011
McMillin Realty, a longtime housing presence in San Diego, recently laid off 11 workers to “reposition” the company, said Sandy Perlatti, senior vice president of marketing at the Corky McMillin Companies.
The layoffs included: five employees in administrative and accounting roles, one in land development, two in asset management, (a job that will be outsourced,) one in land acquisition, one in project finance and one in the in-house legal department. In all, 412 people work at the company, which has four offices: two in Bonita, one in Chula Vista and another in San Diego.
“The recovery has not been as robust as we would’ve hoped,” said Perlatti, who has been with the company 30-plus years. “…There was trimming in all areas…so the company can be well positioned to go into the future.”
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California is one of the best places in the U.S.A. for a small business to go bankrupt.
More San Diego businesses going bankrupt
Written by Tanya Mannes
6 a.m., Aug. 29, 2011
The number of San Diego County small businesses filing for bankruptcy has nearly doubled since the first quarter of 2008, says a report by Equifax.
San Diego ranked fourth among U.S. metro areas with 400 small businesses going bankrupt in the first quarter of this year, compared with 208 in the first quarter of 2008, said the report released last week. Equifax classifies a small business as a commercial entity of less than 100 employees.
The pace of bankruptcy filings appears to be slowing in most of the nation, but is increasing slightly in San Diego compared with last year, the report said.
Bankruptcy trends serve as a valuable prism through which to evaluate the credit health of today’s small business market,” said Dr. Reza Barazesh, senior vice president of Equifax Commercial Information Solutions.
“Our latest analysis shows that while business failures may be on the decline, conflicting trends are still making us question if the worst is behind us,” Barazesh said. “Only time will tell if these patterns are just a market aberration resulting from current economic turbulence or a sign of change to come.”
The top five areas for bankruptcies were:
• Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale, 1,048
• Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, 629
• Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville, 434
• San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, 400
• Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, Texas, 363
How could the “nobody could have seen it coming” set possibly make buckets of dough through pulling the wool over the sheeples’ eyes if the public were adequately alerted to looming financial catastrophes?
BTW, this was a truly excellent commentary. Thank you, David Frum, for sharing your wealth of insight.
Let’s call it Hurricane Euro
By David Frum
Marketplace, Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Hurricane Irene could cause more than $10 billion in damage. But there’s another storm brewing that might cost more.
Commentator David Frum
David Frum: For a weekend, Hurricane Irene transfixed media attention.
Kai Ryssdal: Commentator David Frum.
Frum: National networks as well as local news — they reported breathlessly minute by minute the progress of the storm.
And you know what? While some of the reporting was silly, the shows by and large did a public service. People took precautions. The barrage of warnings had a positive effect.
But why is it only weather stories that command such breathless attention?
Meanwhile, the world’s largest currency union — the euro — continues to careen toward disaster. The euro’s travails weigh heavily on the United States’ economy too. Yet just try getting anybody interested in that outside specialized financial media.
Day by day, week by week, the fiscal and monetary authorities in Europe are making decisions–mostly very bad decisions — that are hastening the day when a southern European country either quits the euro or is ejected. That would be followed by debt defaults and bank failures — bank failures that may well contaminate non-European banks as well.
It’s not a sure thing. But then neither was the flooding of lower Manhattan by Irene a sure thing. We still worried. We still took precautions. And when we got lucky, we were glad to have paid attention.
Yet where is the minute-by-minute coverage of our financial exposure? If the worst happens, it will happen for most Americans out of a wild blue yonder — just as the crash of the housing bubble did.
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The Financial Times
MARKETS
Poverty overshadows Las Vegas lights
August 31, 2011 6:55 AM
Leading the country in foreclosures and unemployment, the FT’s Matthew Garrahan examines how Las Vegas is coping. Away from the bright lights and gaming palaces, a lack of jobs and the housing collapse has exacerbated its poverty crisis leaving nearly 300,000 people without the proper resources to eat. (4m 28sec)