October 12, 2011

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Comment by Hard Rain
2011-10-12 04:04:45

Here we go again. Colin Powell is shaking off the mothballs…

The State Department is warning Americans around the world of the potential for terrorist attacks against U.S. interests following the exposure of an alleged Iranian plot to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States.

In a new worldwide travel alert issued late Tuesday, the department said the foiled scheme could be a sign that Iran has adopted a “more aggressive focus” on terrorist activity. It said Iranian-sponsored attacks could include strikes in the United States, where the alleged plot against the Saudi envoy was supposed to have taken place, as well as other countries.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-issues-terror-alert-iran-plot-exposed-031657340.html

Comment by rms
2011-10-12 06:44:48

Too many (could, might, would) words for me; feels like the spin machine is working up a propaganda piece to justify a preemptive strike.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 07:00:00

Yeah lets go and kill more innocent people…instead of the real enemy ..the mosques. its a religious jihad….my god is better then your god .. so aim for the god targets, not people selling potatoes.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 09:23:22

“so aim for the god targets, not people selling potatoes.”

You realize that what you are advocating would ESCALATE the war, and we would truly be at war with the ENTIRE Muslim world, even the currently peaceful parts?

Further escalation is NOT such a great idea IMHO.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 12:11:32

Maybe if we aimed at them after 9/11 they would have quit trying to kill us..But we are gutless as americans to fight a religious jihad…something about respecting other beliefs.

If we are honest about the rules of a religious jihad then if you dont aim at a god target, you are a terriorist.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 18:06:45

You would be giving the Islamic extremists exactly what they want.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:35:38

No kidding. Turning one billion people into active enemies isn’t wise in my book.

 
 
 
Comment by polly
2011-10-12 08:07:04

Speaking “State Department” is a whole other world. I doubt I will ever understand it.

 
 
Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 07:17:52

Is this the rinse cycle?

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 08:56:12

Iran should just use Predator Drones with Hellfire missiles.

That is the legal way to execute someone now a days.

Comment by Robin
2011-10-12 22:49:00

+1 Fair is fair.

US is TBTF.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2011-10-12 10:23:29

Oh my goodness, I’m all a-tremble like a good little American.

No longer the home of the brave.

 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-10-12 13:49:10

According to Bin Ladden tapes, the point of the WTC attacks was to lure us into an expensive and endless war in hopes of bankrupting us.

So far, working out pretty well according to his plans.

As we begin to remove more and more troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, expect terrorist efforts to escalate.

The one thing they do not want is for us to leave and stop wasting $150B a year in an endless war we can’t possibly win.

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 04:19:27

Realtors Are Liars®

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 06:08:51

Hey RAL, got your catchers mitt on? This one’s right down the pike,… ;-)

Woman guilty of impersonating FBI agent:

Karen Hanover of Seal Beach was acquitted on two additional counts of obstruction of justice. A separate FBI investigation into the fraud allegations is ongoing.

By VIK JOLLY / THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER / Published: Oct. 11, 2011

Hanover, 44, a Seal Beach real estate saleswoman, was arrested in February.

Federal prosecutors say Hanover used the “spoofing” service to call a client so she could threaten and intimidate her into staying quiet about her real estate dealings.

SANTA ANA – A Seal Beach woman has been convicted of using “spoofing” technology to impersonate an FBI agent in a telephone call to a business client.

On the impersonation count, she faces a possible three years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 at her Jan. 9 sentencing.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:20:23

We’ve had a rash of home invasions locally where the perps have police baseball caps and other gear. Thanks to the prevalance of no-knock warrants, most people don’t resist. LE impersonators should give minimum mandatory sentences of at least five years without parole.

Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 06:51:23

I like to dress my Realtor like a cop sometimes and tell her how naughty she has been.

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Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 07:22:21

:lol:

 
Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 11:41:49

I like my Realtor to have a huge, brand new SUV with GPS, lots of cold water and snack, and experience with keys and knobs. If she is a ex cheerleader/ masseuse on the side all the better.

that’s all

 
Comment by octal77
2011-10-12 12:15:25

At what point do you get her to loosen her bullets?

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 08:22:37

Thanks to the prevalance of no-knock warrants

Isn’t it wonderful to live in the land of free?

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Comment by MrBubble
2011-10-12 08:27:43

No Knock — Gil Scott-Heron

You explained it to me I must admit
But just for the record you were talkin’ sh1t
Y’all rap about no knock bein’ legislated
For the people you’ve always hated
In this hell hole you, we, call home

No knock, the man will say
To keep that man from beating his wife
No knock, the man will say
To keep people from themselves

No knockin’, head-rockin’, inter-shockin’
Shootin’, cussin’, killin’, cryin’, lyin’
And bein’ white
No knock

No knocked on my brother Fred Hampton
Bullet holes all over the place
No knocked on my brother Michael Harris
And jammed a shotgun against his skull

For my protection?
Who’s gonna protect me from you?
The likes of you?
The nerve of you?
Your tomato face deadpan
Your dead hands ending another freedom fan

No knockin’, head rockin’, inter-shockin’
Shootin’, cussin’, killin’, cryin’, lyin’
And bein’ white

But if you’re wise, no knocker
You’ll tell your no-knockin’ lackeys
Ha!
No knock on my brother’s head
No knock on my sister’s head
No knock on my brother’s head
No knock on my sister’s head

And double lock your door
Because soon someone may be no-knockin’
Ha, ha!
For you

 
 
Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 08:58:03

How long should LE get for executing citizens during a no-knock raid?

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 08:45:20

Good grief…. reaItors know no bounds when it comes to corruption.

 
 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 07:30:41

Don’t be priced-out forever
Its been said before
Real Estate only goes up, whatever
My Realor is a whore

Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 11:43:00

whores are cheaper and smarter

Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2011-10-12 13:50:17

And give better service.

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Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 04:45:40

Of course any of these candidates (except Ron Paul imo) would just install one of their cronnies…

(Reuters) - Ben Bernanke, if a Republican wins the White House in 2012: you’re fired.

The Federal Reserve Chairman, architect of unconventional policies to shore up the shaky U.S. economy, came under attack at the Bloomberg/The Washington Post Republican Presidential Debate at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire on Tuesday night.

And unlike the eight candidates, who had the chance for a rebuttal any time their name was mentioned, the criticisms of Bernanke were left to stand.

Newt Gingrich led the charge. Asked if the nationwide Occupy Wall Street movement had a valid grievance about income inequality and the out-sized influence of big banks, the former House speaker pivoted:

“If they want to really change things, the first person to fire is Bernanke, who is a disastrous chairman of the Federal Reserve,” said Gingrich.

“Bernanke has in secret spent hundreds of billions of dollars bailing out one group and not bailing out another group. I think it is corrupt and it is wrong for one man to have that kind of secret power.”

Bernanke, a former Princeton professor, was appointed to lead the Fed by Republican President George W. Bush — he also served as chairman of Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers for a time — and was reappointed by Democrat Barack Obama in 2009. His term as chairman ends in January 2014.

“I wouldn’t keep Bernanke in office. I would choose someone of my own,” said Republican front-runner Mitt Romney, who did not include Bernanke when doling out praise to Bush and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson for pulling the financial system back from the precipice in late 2008.

For Congressman Ron Paul, needling the Fed has been a decades-long endeavor spanning various leaders.

“If I had to name one person who did a little bit of good, that was Paul Volcker,” the Fed chairman from 1979 to 1987, Paul said, adding that “nobody satisfies me.”

Paul termed Bernanke’s predecessor, Alan Greenspan “a disaster” because of policies that fueled investment bubbles such as the early 2000s Internet stock boom and bust.

“Bernanke compounds the problem,” Paul said. “He’s inflating twice as fast as Greenspan was.”

Herman Cain, the Godfather’s Pizza magnate, drew a distinction between the good Fed of yore, when he served on the board of the Kansas City Fed in the 1990s, and the bad Bernanke version.

“I don’t agree with the actions of this Federal Reserve. I don’t agree with the actions that have been undertaken by Ben Bernanke,” said Cain, who said he had some good chairman candidates in mind.

Comment by Martin
2011-10-12 06:16:28

And Geithner also. They both got a mouthful last evening in the debate.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:17:53

“…who did not include Bernanke when doling out praise to Bush and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson for pulling the financial system back from the precipice in late 2008.”

Please set me straight if I am missing something, but this Republican “War on Bernanke” (a Republican Fed Chair) strikes me as revisionist history. My recollection is that Bush, Bernanke, and Paulson worked in lockstep throughout the onset of recession in 2008 and the subsequent financial meltdown. Perhaps Bernanke’s problem is that he is not a member of the 1% club?

I suppose most good politicians won’t let the facts stand in the way of their talking points.

Recession Watch 2008
Paulson, Bernanke: Slow growth ahead
Treasury secretary and Fed chairman say rate cuts and rebates should keep economy out of recession but warn of tough times.
By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
February 14 2008: 3:36 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson both acknowledged problems in the U.S. economy Thursday, but both said they believe the nation will avoid falling into recession.

The two made their comments at a hearing before the Senate Banking Committee about the economy. Their testimony comes in the wake of troubling economic readings that have raised recession fears on Wall Street.

But while Paulson and Bernanke repeatedly insisted they expect the economy to avoid shifting into reverse - thanks in part to a series of interest rate cuts by the Fed and a $170 billion economic stimulus package signed by President Bush Wednesday - they conceded the economy faces additional headwinds.

Quick Vote

Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson don’t see a recession coming this year. What do you think?

- I agree. We’ll dodge a recession in 2008.
- They’re wrong. It’s definitely going to happen.
- Guess what? We’re already in one.

or View results

Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 08:58:04

Gotta blame someone.

Might as well blame everyone–the blame game is sure to strike a chord with someone…

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 06:21:05

The Fed Chariman is a PR guy, and he’s just a Temp. It’s not the Kelly Girl that controls the business or gets the revenue stream. There is no way changing out the PR guy changes anything about what the Fed does. How about we snip those revenue streams, which run from the 99% to the big banks? A country should control its own monetary policy, not wait breathlessly to find out what will be imposed upon them by a private bank.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 15:24:39

Matt Taibbi (famous Vampire Squid hunter) said it’s close to time for Occupy Wall Street to declare a set of demands and he offers this list:

1. Break up the monopolies. The so-called “Too Big to Fail” financial companies – now sometimes called by the more accurate term “Systemically Dangerous Institutions” – are a direct threat to national security. They are above the law and above market consequence, making them more dangerous and unaccountable than a thousand mafias combined. There are about 20 such firms in America, and they need to be dismantled; a good start would be to repeal the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and mandate the separation of insurance companies, investment banks and commercial banks.

2. Pay for your own bailouts. A tax of 0.1 percent on all trades of stocks and bonds and a 0.01 percent tax on all trades of derivatives would generate enough revenue to pay us back for the bailouts, and still have plenty left over to fight the deficits the banks claim to be so worried about. It would also deter the endless chase for instant profits through computerized insider-trading schemes like High Frequency Trading, and force Wall Street to go back to the job it’s supposed to be doing, i.e., making sober investments in job-creating businesses and watching them grow.

3. No public money for private lobbying. A company that receives a public bailout should not be allowed to use the taxpayer’s own money to lobby against him. You can either suck on the public teat or influence the next presidential race, but you can’t do both. Butt out for once and let the people choose the next president and Congress.

4. Tax hedge-fund gamblers. For starters, we need an immediate repeal of the preposterous and indefensible carried-interest tax break, which allows hedge-fund titans like Stevie Cohen and John Paulson to pay taxes of only 15 percent on their billions in gambling income, while ordinary Americans pay twice that for teaching kids and putting out fires. I defy any politician to stand up and defend that loophole during an election year.

5. Change the way bankers get paid. We need new laws preventing Wall Street executives from getting bonuses upfront for deals that might blow up in all of our faces later. It should be: You make a deal today, you get company stock you can redeem two or three years from now. That forces everyone to be invested in his own company’s long-term health – no more Joe Cassanos pocketing multimillion-dollar bonuses for destroying the AIGs of the world.

To quote the immortal political philosopher Matt Damon from Rounders, “The key to No Limit poker is to put a man to a decision for all his chips.” The only reason the Lloyd Blankfeins and Jamie Dimons of the world survive is that they’re never forced, by the media or anyone else, to put all their cards on the table. If Occupy Wall Street can do that – if it can speak to the millions of people the banks have driven into foreclosure and joblessness – it has a chance to build a massive grassroots movement. All it has to do is light a match in the right place, and the overwhelming public support for real reform – not later, but right now – will be there in an instant.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/my-advice-to-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters-20111012

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:40:06

+1 Matt. But in a nation of vegetables that vote for their own demise, the slack-jaws will never, ever insist on accountability and reform. They will go on voting for the corporatist status quo.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 21:37:17

That’s a hell of a list. I hope Matt’s proposal gains traction.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:21:46

Not a Newt fan, but loved it when he said Chris Dodd and Barney Frank should be in jail for their role in the subprime mortgage debacle.

Comment by scdave
2011-10-12 07:41:11

Newt is a pretty smart dude particularly as it applies to US political history but he is also a flaming Hypocrite…

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 08:59:33

Shush! We are not supposed to talk about his ex-wives.

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Comment by MightyMike
2011-10-12 07:46:40

That doesn’t make any sense. How are Dodd and Frank responsible for banks and mortgage brokers who handed out $700,000 mortgages to strawberry pickers?

Also, are we going to start jailing legislators who sponsor legislation that doens’t turn out well?

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 08:08:43

well if the loan limit was $250K. instead of $729K…then what?

They did because they could.

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-10-12 09:47:47

“loved it when he said Chris Dodd and Barney Frank should be in jail for their role in the subprime mortgage debacle.”

And yet, not a word about Gramm-Leach-Bliley I’m guessing?

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 13:47:20

You would guess right.

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Comment by polly
2011-10-12 06:43:57

“Republican front-runner Mitt Romney, who did not include Bernanke when doling out praise to Bush and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson for pulling the financial system back from the precipice in late 2008.”

I wonder if this is part of his problem with getting over 25%? This is a very appealing stance for the very big money end of the Republicans, but isn’t (or shouldn’t) be all that popular with the Tea Party end. Mitt may have problems with his own party well beyond the religious/social issues/Romneycare stuff.

I wonder if there is anything about Bain that will be mined for issues. I’m sure that Cain’s people are looking for it.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 07:25:43

The 2 Portraits Of Mitt Romney, Businessman
by Ari Shapiro
All Things Considered

Mitt Romney, shown in 1993, is the former CEO of Bain & Co. In the 1980s, he started an investment fund called Bain Capital. His supporters say that’s where he learned to solve big problems, create jobs and expand companies. His opponents say he made money by shutting down factories, occasionally driving companies into bankruptcy.
David L. Ryan/Boston Globe via Getty Images

Mitt Romney, shown in 1993, is the former CEO of Bain & Co. In the 1980s, he started an investment fund called Bain Capital. His supporters say that’s where he learned to solve big problems, create jobs and expand companies. His opponents say he made money by shutting down factories, occasionally driving companies into bankruptcy.

Job 1: An NPR Series

Creating work for unemployed Americans will be the top priority for whoever wins the 2012 presidential race. This week, NPR begins a series of profiles looking at a key job that each Republican presidential contender held before running for office.

October 6, 2011

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 11:01:16

From the article:

“Here’s a guy that just took somebody else’s money and used it to make more money. The guy has never produced a thing in his life. … I made something. We produced something. I drive by the old plant probably once or twice a week, and it’s just — I mean, it chokes you up.

- Donny Box, former GST Steel worker”

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:18:44

I suspect that if Mitt applied the same tactics to the entire U.S. economy that he did to private firms in his Bain Capital CEO role, U.S. unemployment would go up, not down. Perhaps a sufficient number of discouraged workers would take care of the problem, though; if enough people stop looking for work, the headline unemployment rate actually goes down, not up.

 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 07:52:20

Yet not a mention of Gramm or Leach.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-10-12 10:03:53

LOL, I shoulda kept reading…(made the same comment above)

Comment by alpha-sloth
2011-10-12 19:24:18

It bears repeating.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2011-10-12 05:07:29

How Renters Could Save the Housing Market
Enticing real estate investors could help heal the housing market

By Meg Handley

October 6, 2011 RSS

It might seem counterintuitive, but increasing rental activity might be the medicine the ailing U.S. housing market needs to get back on its feet.

Virtually every corner of the industry has been languishing since the 2008 financial meltdown, and experts say even if the U.S. manages to contain the domestic impact of the ongoing financial crisis in Europe, the albatross of a weak housing market will continue to drag down the economic recovery stateside.

In short, there will be no economic recovery without a housing recovery.

Some cities have considered bulldozing vacant homes to address excess supply, but the political viability of such a move is questionable on a larger scale. Perhaps more realistically, others have suggested introducing financial incentives for real estate investors to encourage them to purchase vacant homes and convert them into rentals. We’re seeing that to some extent now, says Patrick Newport, economist at IHS Global Insight, but not to the degree it needs to be to make a dent in the huge housing inventory.

But if more investors could be enticed to buy, it could help dry up the excess supply that continues to depress home prices and keep homeowners underwater on their mortgages.”Congress could give investors the incentive to buy vacant houses now by allowing them to write off the value immediately, as long as they hold on to the properties for some number of years and rent them out,” Peter Orszag, vice chairman of global banking at Citigroup and former director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Barack Obama, wrote in a recent Bloomberg column.

Reducing the number of vacant home on the market could help treat another disorder afflicting the housing market. Millions of Americans have negative equity in their homes, many of them facing foreclosure and unable to refinance mortgages at lower rates to free up cash. But if a decrease in supply pushes housing prices up, over time homeowners could potentially avoid foreclosure, recoup lost equity, and refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates.

“The government has tried many things and none of them did all that much good,” Newport says. “It’s not clear that there’s that much more the government can do, but it can do something. If it could make it easier for homeowners to refinance that would be good for the housing market, too.”

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/10/06/how-renters-could-save-the-housing-market - 39k -

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 06:18:38

But if a decrease in supply pushes housing prices up, over time homeowners could potentially avoid foreclosure, recoup lost equity, and refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates.

This is wishful thinking.

Does this yokel really think that an FB will be able to stave off foreclosure for another 15-20 years while buyers straggle in to raise prices to recoup 2005 equity?

Even if FBs do refinance, oxide asks yet again: refinance into what? From 5% to 4%? From a 30-year loan to a 40-year loan? That’s not enough to save an FB. Those FBs bought those houses on I/O and neg-am option payments,* and any whiff of paying principle will sink them again. And no bank will re-finance into neg-am credit, not without a secondary market.

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*according to ye olde Credit Suisse graph, Option ARM resets peaked a month ago at about $12 billion. Dang, that second peak in the graph has been a long time coming for us HBBers.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 06:37:21

“that second peak in the graph has been a long time coming for us HBBers”

Yes indeed. I think we are at the top of the third inning in this slow motion game. The Death of the GSEs, the Death of ZIRP, the end of Massive Deficit Spending, Death of the Euro, implosion of the Asia Miracle, Trade War, Bailout Holidays; all would be potential home runs. So many hitters in the lineup, something has to connect, and the outfield is empty.

IMO, we aren’t in any condition as a country to methodically move out of this mess. Things will happen to us and we will obsess over who’s fault it is.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 09:09:54

The peak shifted left a long time ago due to negative amortization.

In February 2010, T2 put out a long presentation on the mortgage mess. At that time, approximately 30% of Option ARMs were delinquent and on page 158 of that presentation, T2 shows a revised recasting schedule based on the number of loans that were negatively amortizing (and thus reaching their maximum loan amount at 110-115% of the original principal balance).

That shifted peak was actually a plateau from Q4 2009 through the middle of 2010.

Judging from that slide, roughly 75-80% of the recasting has already taken place.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 09:59:59

Whishful thinking my reaIt-liar.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 21:42:41

I’ve put a link up that hasn’t showed yet with the whole presentation. If you want to find it faster, do a Google search for “T2 mortgage crisis 2010″, and the second link is to the PDF, which is about 200 pages, so be patient while it downloads.

Other than “we’re all f’d”, the gist of what they are saying about Option ARMs is below:

1. The original recast graph assumed all Option ARMs reset after the initial 5-year period;
2. A huge number of Option ARM holders got the loans because it was the only way they could afford the ridiculously high prices;
3. The Option ARM borrowers opted for the negative amortization option in droves (80%). This is consistent with the Option ARMs being an affordability product, see #2 above;
4. The Option ARMs recast at the earlier of a) 5 years, or b) the principal balance rising to 110%-125% of the original balance. If you negatively amortize the mortgage (like 80% of borrowers), you hit this recast far before 5 years is up, bringing the recasting problem forward in time.
5. At the time of the printing of the presentation, 30% of all Option ARMs were 60+ days delinquent…faster than the reset graph would have otherwise indicated…further verifying the fact that the problem was pulled forward.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:21:18

“But if a decrease in supply pushes housing prices up, over time homeowners could potentially avoid foreclosure, recoup lost equity, and refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates.”

I will leave detecting the many flaws in this logic as an exercise to the reader. But let me say that whatever economist cooked up this argument ought to reread one of his undergraduate text books.

Comment by polly
2011-10-12 06:49:23

You don’t even have to get that far. Anyone who thinks that these imaginary investors are going to pay any more than a good market clearing price for investment properties on the “promise” that everyone else is going to keep the properties to rent out and not sell them is nuts. And they are not going to buy them if THEY are restricted from selling them so there can’t be any restrictions on the others as well.

I’ve said it before, if the government wants to do this, they will pratically have to provide the capital themselves. Not going to happen.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 07:55:46

It sounded to me as Meg Handley herself was an FB and she was daydreaming about being rescued from out form under her own house.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-12 07:05:33

Landlord of a set of one-family homes: the job from hell.

I’m miserable just dealing with contracting for repairs and replacing appliances on my own house.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 08:07:53

Testify! It’s a constant stream of problems. Problem renters are my #1 concern. Get a good renter that stays for 5-10 years and you can make a little money but if you have turnover less than 3 years you will be lucky to break even. I think most small operators “make money” only when they use the losses to offset other income. Back when RE still appreciated you could argue you could recapture some of those losses. Not so much now.

 
 
Comment by sfrenter
2011-10-12 12:04:39

I think the goal of more investors and more renters is part of a longer-term plan to create a majority of people who rent for life: a permanent owner class and a permanent renter class. More transfer of wealth from the middle class to the financial elite.

Viva la 1%!

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 14:10:28

QUIET, PEASANT!

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:42:04

Suffer, serf.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-10-14 02:49:39

Bingo!

 
 
 
Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 05:22:27

Realtors: Las Vegas home prices off 8.6 percent from September 2010
By Steve Green - Vegasinc.com

Las Vegas-area home prices in September fell from year-ago levels while sales stayed strong thanks to investors snapping up homes at bargain prices, the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors reported today.

In a market still influenced by high foreclosure and unemployment rates, the Realtors said the median price of single-family homes sold in September was $123,400. That’s up 2.8 percent from $120,000 in August, but down 8.6 percent from $135,000 one year ago.

The median price of local condominiums and townhomes sold in September was $56,500, up 0.9 percent from $56,000 in August, but down 13.1 percent from $65,000 one year ago.

The GLVAR, whose report focuses on existing properties as opposed to new construction, said the total number of local homes, condominiums and townhomes sold in September was 4,108. That was down from 4,693 sales in August – the second-best month ever for existing home sales in Southern Nevada.

But September’s sales total was up from 3,603 sales one year ago.

“This month’s report is about what we expected,” GLVAR President Paul Bell said in a statement. “Local home sales usually fall a bit in September after peaking in the summer.”

The pool of buyers in Las Vegas has been limited by the elevated unemployment rate, which was 14.2 percent in August.

Investors, in the meantime, continue to find bargains as research firm RealtyTrac reported that in August, Nevada and Las Vegas led its national lists of home mortgage default notices for states and cities, respectively. These notices are the first step in the foreclosure process.

 
Comment by CA renter
2011-10-12 05:31:33

In response to Awaiting’s post yesterday (in case you didn’t see it in the other thread)…

Comment by CA renter
2011-10-12 03:01:36
Awaiting,

This is exactly the situation we bought into. Our elderly neighbor (to our rental) passed away, and her kids (grandparents, themselves) came from out of state to sell the house.

We offered list, and let the appraiser do our heavy lifting — we knew it wouldn’t appraise for list. We were tired of trying to offer a lower price, being turned down, then watching another buyer offer list and negotiate down during escrow (sometimes lower than our offer); so, we did it ourselves.

They balked at the appraisal, we cancelled, they came back the next day and took our offer. We made everything very easy for them, and offered to close within days of the inspection because we were in the same position as you. This is why they decided to take our offer, even though they think we were lowballers (we weren’t, IMHO).

Like you’ve said, it’s free money to heirs.

BTW, we are not moved in yet, and probably won’t be moving in for at least another 2-3 months. Since it’s our toe-tag house, we’re trying to get *everything* done first so we can hopefully avoid having workers/construction going on in the house once we’re in.

We’re taking advantage of the fact that we live a few houses away and can easily manage all the work.

Absolutely NO buyer’s remorse. None. Like you, we’ve pulled out of our share of escrows because one thing or another was off. With this one, we knew it was the right one, so I acted very decisively and quickly, and dealt directly with the sellers before getting any agents involved.

Stand your ground. Prices are NOT going up from here, IMHO. Time is definitely on your side. When the right one comes up, you’ll know it.

You can e-mail me to get details about how we structured our offer. You can PM me through the Piggington site — CA renter. The “messages” function is at the top left of the page in the “user forums” section, IIRC. You might have to create a username there, but it shouldn’t be a problem. If that’s too complicated, leave your e-mail address here, and I’ll check back later.

Good luck on the new find! :)

Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 06:15:20

In the last big downturn (1990-1993) around here my friends offered an older couple about half of their wish price - in cash.

They basically threw them offer back in their face.

But they wanted to move to Florida.

After about 5 months - they came back an accepted (just took another hard winter of no offers).

Comment by Awaiting
2011-10-12 07:54:37

2banana
Thanks for sharing that. It shows standing your ground can have a happy ending.

HBB’ers
Weird, but the new listing are picking up a little. I wonder if it’s job loss for some, and people getting a clue prices are trending down long term.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 10:04:32

Good stuff Banana.

 
 
Comment by Awaiting
2011-10-12 07:35:32

Ca renter
Thank you. I read the above post and will reply privately or leave my email here. Your experience is invaluable and is my best data point. You’re a doll.

Comment by Awaiting
2011-10-12 14:27:39

Ca renter
You can contact me at awaitingwipeout@verizon.net
I have a tight schedule this week, so this is the most direct route. I use to be a Piggington reader myself.

One thing about home hunting and deal making, you do lose weight. I’m 3 lbs lighter.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2011-10-12 07:51:09

What zip are you in Ca renter ??

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 09:14:43

CA Renter, congrats on making it happen…

 
Comment by cactus
2011-10-12 17:53:19

We were tired of trying to offer a lower price, being turned down, then watching another buyer offer list and negotiate down during escrow (sometimes lower than our offer); so, we did it ourselves. ”

yes that’s a common trick , as a buyer tie up the house in escrow as quick as possible and then force the seller to drop the price, apparently the buyer can keep the house in escrow forever.
use home inspection to get price lower.

This is what a flipper co-worker tells me happens all the time around here

Comment by Awaiting
2011-10-12 18:56:02

cactus
I don’t buy that stategy works all the time.It certainly can backfire. We are taking $ off for being cash, money off for old windows and so forth. We aren’t fooling around. This is cold cash.

Ca AB-957 REO Buyer Protection Act (2009-2015) Bank can’t make the buyer use their escrow, title rep, etc. Interesting penalty for banks that break the law. Buyer gets 3X settlement costs.

Yet no one we were dealing with on the REO deal (rescinded and no remorse) disclosed this to us.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 20:55:46

cactus: that is a frequent strategy in commercial properties as well. In a weak market, you can often make the strategy work, as long as you have some justification based on information dug up during diligence. In the commercial world, if you get a reputation for re-trading in the community in which you are looking to buy, you may not get into contract in the first place.

For housing, since one is unlikely a serial buyer, such a reputation doesn’t come about (especially since it’s a lot more inefficient than commercial properties).

 
 
 
Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 05:34:33

More budget cuts to come as Florida economy yielding $1.6 billion less in taxes than expected

TALLAHASSEE — Analysts said Tuesday that Florida’s feeble economy is yielding almost $1.6 billion less in tax collections than expected, a sign that a new round of belt-tightening and layoffs is looming for schools, health services and other state-backed programs.

With sales-tax receipts down sharply since mid-summer, state economists reduced revenue forecasts $600 million for this year and $968 million for 2012.

Combined with rising costs in education and Medicaid spending, lawmakers could face a $2 billion budget shortfall in the election year ahead.

The revised outlook coincided Tuesday with Gov. Rick Scott giving a broad-brushed glimpse of his legislative and budget goals for his second year as chief executive. The self-described “jobs governor” leads a state plagued by 10.7 percent unemployment.

“We thought we were going to have a nice budget surplus but we’re not. Now we’re going to have a budget deficit,” Scott told a lunchtime gathering of Tallahassee business leaders.

Scott said his proposals for next year pivot around “job creation and economic growth priorities.” But he conceded souring tax collections mean, “We’re going to have to go through the same thing: How do you prioritize those dollars?”

The scaled-back forecast comes about a month after state economists issued a three-year financial outlook that predicted steadily growing tax receipts and no budget shortfalls through 2015.

But even then, these same analysts warned that consumer spending was slowing as foreclosures choked the state’s economy and close to 1 million Floridians remained out of work.

Comment by combotechie
2011-10-12 06:09:00

“The scaled-back forecast comes about a month…”

Only a month?

“… after state economists issued a three-year financial outlook…”

A three year financial outlook?

“… that predicted steadily growing tax receipts and no budget shortfalls through 2015.”

Lol.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-10-12 10:33:45

“Lol.”

Lol.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-12 07:07:48

There are three kinds of people who should move to Florida.

Parents who want an education for their kids.

Seniors who expect to be taken care of if they someday need custodial care.

And workers who need a job.

If you don’t fall into any of those categories, you’ll get low taxes in Florida as long as you don’t buy things or own property.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 09:59:55

“Parents who want an education for their kids.”

Is the educational system that good in FL?

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-10-12 10:06:06

He didn’t say what kind of education :-).

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Comment by Muggy
2011-10-12 16:27:17

Palm Harbor High (Pinellas) has one of the highest IB pass rates in the country. There are amazing schools in Florida, but you have to do your research first. The districts down here function by county, and that is sometimes hard for transplant parents to understand.

But, yes, I’m wondering what WT meant, too.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 05:37:26

Why Occupy Wall Street isn’t about a list of demands
By Julianne Pepitone
@CNNMoneyTech October 12, 2011: 6:01 AM ET

Occupy Wall Street is still going strong after 25 days.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — A lot of lip service has been paid to the idea that Occupy Wall Street lacks focus. The critics ask: What’s the goal of these protests? Everyone wants something different.

Which is exactly the point.

It’s easy to trivialize Occupy Wall Street — even as it inspires similar protests around the country — by saying the movement lacks an end game. The group is trying to crowdsource its list of goals, which all but guarantees that no major ones will be set.

A demand list of sorts has appeared on the official Occupy Wall Street page, serving as an ever-changing document on which people can comment with their own suggestions. It has also served as fodder for critics like Fox News, which posted a version of the list and suggested that readers “try not to laugh.”

But no list has been endorsed by the “general assembly” at Occupy Wall Street, says press team member Mark Bray, who added that “making a list of three or four demands would have ended the conversation before it started.”

Occupy Wall Street has already achieved what it set out to do.

Like the “Arab Spring” uprisings that inspired its tactics, the word-of-mouth demonstration has tapped into a collective anger. Some protesters are upset about taxation; for others, the big issue is the high unemployment rate. Or corporate greed. Or the distribution of wealth.

Comment by Montana
2011-10-12 06:13:16

they don’t know how things work to do any critical thinking about it. so they emote, and offer up tropes from protests gone by.

Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 07:05:19

Do you agree with this enlightened proposal from the comments on a Denver Post article regarding the tent city on the state Capitol grounds?

“Pepper spray and billy clubs are the first two things that come to mind… send these Marxist fleabaggers back to mommy and daddies basement where they belong.”

Comment by Montana
2011-10-12 09:56:36

No.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 13:50:07

See what happens when your State is run by a democrapt Governor , you tow the line: “Just say No!” ;-)

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:43:49

You toe lines, not tow them. Ever been in the military?

 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 06:17:09

Corporate Democrats not welcome, this is not your stepping stone for re-election.

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 06:27:02

Professional activists not welcome either, this is not your platform for your agenda. (Did they kick out Sharpton?)

IMO, the White House should offer up Biden as a “listener.” Biden has some working-class street cred and may gain some access to #OWS.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-10-12 06:48:46

“Professional activists not welcome either…”

Does that include former community organizers?

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Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 08:06:37

Obama lost his street cred when he became a professional caver. That’s why I think Joe is a better option.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-10-12 09:37:52

I personally have no interest in hearing Joe’s opinion on any of it. AFAIK he only has “street cred” with the left. If he just wants to listen and report back to headquarters, more power to him.

 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 10:57:07

Jesse LaGreca, one of the sort of “leaders” of #OWS, appealed to politicians to “listen.” However, I suspect that the Dems know full well what #OWS is about. Dick Durbin wrote the tax-the-outsourcer bill which was filibustered, and famously said “the banks own the place” on the floor of the Senate. Dem Biden has been listening for decades (now, if only he would listen more and speak less). Even eeeevil Nancy Pelosi told off a Fox News anchor. The Fox anchor advocated raising the SS age, and Pelosi shot back that this is all well and good for a TV anchor who sits behind a desk for a living, but not for a 65 year old physical laborer with a broken body.

Last night on PBS, one of the Senators from Georgia advocated creating jobs by having a “regulation holiday.” I guess the lower taxes meme is losing traction, so bogged down regulations are the next talking point. Heads up, people!

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:51:26

Even eeeevil Nancy Pelosi told off a Fox News anchor. The Fox anchor advocated raising the SS age, and Pelosi shot back that this is all well and good for a TV anchor who sits behind a desk for a living, but not for a 65 year old physical laborer with a broken body.

Oxide, stop being such a tool. Nancy Pelosi is a huge part of the reason why that 65 year old laborer will work till he drops dead, because he has to. Nancy Pelosi has presided over the ever-increasing growth of entitlement classes who vote Democrat in exchange for spongeing off the taxpayers, and has aided and abetted the growth of crony capitalism. Nancy Pelosi’s support for TARP and central economic planning mirror the mess her and her ilk have made of California’s economy and liveability. Nancy Pelosi hasn’t lifted a finger to stop Ben Bernanke’s deranged money-printing, which is feeding the inflation that erodes the savings of the elderly and forces both parents to work. Telling off a Fox News anchor doesn’t in any way redeem her for her role in our current troubles.

 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 06:53:38

Doth protest too much, methinks?

They protest the patterns of behavior of the corporate criminal pigmen, a local example of which from today’s Denver Post:

Former Denver executive gets two years’ probation for insider trading

“A federal judge in New York City on Tuesday sentenced H. Clayton Peterson, the former managing partner of Arthur Andersen’s Denver office, to two years’ probation for sharing insider information with his son and pressuring him to trade on the tip. The first three months of the probation are to be served in home confinement, according to Peterson’s attorneys. Peterson, who served as a director of Houston-based Mariner Energy, faced 12 to 18 months in prison as part of a plea agreement —up to half of it could be home confinement —but a probation officer had recommended two years of probation and three months of home confinement. U.S. District Judge Robert Patterson Jr. imposed the sentence, which was slightly more lenient than the recommendation. Peterson’s attorneys called his insider trading a “lapse in judgment.”

Remember, kidz, it’s a different set of rules for the 1% and the rest of you serfs…

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 08:13:15

Take this guy’s money and his passport and “home confine” him to a one-bedroom apartment. Then allow him to walk to the nearby McD’s to flip burgers and garnish his wages until he pays back all the money he gained by his illegal means. Let him have internet if he can pay for it, but if he’s caught calling a single broker or trading a single stock, the wage garnish clock starts again. Let him explain to his co-workers that he’ll earn his way out of his debt by “working hard” at McD’s and being promoted from burgers to freedom fries to milkshakes to walnut and apple salad.

He wouldn’t last a week.

Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 08:31:01

Didn’t you read the article? Twas but a lapse in judgement. Peterson should receive a finger-wagging and some stern words from the bench, be fined two-and-sixpence, and sent on his merry way :)

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Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 08:25:59

I’m on the front lines with this movement. The #1 tactic the establishment uses on these kinds of threats is to put them in a ‘box’, label them, tag and bag. You can’t kill it if you can’t focus all the hate on a single Achilles Heel. Right now the most frequent accusation is Class Warfare. Readers of this blog last week had a chance to see several posts that list some of the common grievances. The distorted wealth is an artifact of money in politics. We deal with that problem and we will have changed the course of this nation for the better.

http://twitpic.com/6ydnps/full

 
 
Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 07:38:21

Can’t figure out their agenda?

Here’s a hint: where are they? (take your time people)

Comment by Housing Wizard
2011-10-12 08:13:14

Right Turkey ,I think they are being clear . I saw a couple tapes the other day in which the Protesters were really clear ,but those tapes don’t make it to the Main Stream News .

Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 08:28:29

I saw a couple tapes the other day in which the Protesters were really clear ,but those tapes don’t make it to the Main Stream News.

Absolutely, the corporate owned MSM is working overtime to portray the OWS crowd as clueless, lazy, wanna handout bufforns.

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Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 08:34:26

Why not? It worked in the 60s… until it didn’t.

 
Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 08:47:03

They shall have jobbes, emptying the Chamber Pots for the Masters of the Universe.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 19:10:52

I’m guessing 85% of these protesters voted for Obama in ‘08, which means they voted for crony capitalism.

 
 
 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-12 08:33:10

They’re screwed and they don’t know why. And everyone is out to deceive them about it.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 19:12:37

And they’re too damned dumb, in most cases, to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it. Instead they’ll bleat slogans, wave signs, and vote for whatever Republicrat champion of hope ‘n change gets marketed most effectively by Madison Avenue.

 
 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 05:38:04

OMG, I hate Win7 right now. I had a long post written and was almost ready to submit when the freaking POS decided to reboot to install updates. Yes, I saw the popup yesterday saying that I needed to reboot, but was putting it off—mea culpa—but it’s still a HORRIBLE user-experience to have it reboot without so much as a by-your-leave.

Grrrrrrrr……

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 05:44:51

And now for something housing-related:

I had dinner last night with a friend who bought a place in mid-to-late 2007. I thought seriously about trying to talk him out of it, but in the end did not, largely because I didn’t want to offend his fiance that I didn’t know so well; she was/is a RE appraiser on the commercial side, so I was concerned that she would not take kindly to me telling them that RE was about to take a major dive, and it was a terrible time to buy.

At any rate, as soon as I saw him, he went on for a bit about what a great thing it was to be a renter, and how his property was probably down $80K from when he bought it (I fear that he underestimates his current paper losses), and how he might never buy again—that renting was so much better.

I have felt guilty for the past four years for not trying to stop them, because I do care about him/them… :-(

The funny thing was that after the extolling the virtues of renting, I told him that I actually would like to buy one day, and he suddenly started telling me what a great time it was to buy if that was what you wanted, what with the buyers market, low rates, etc.

At any rate, I thought this was an interesting pulse on the psychology of the market, at least from one recent buyer’s perspective.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 05:46:50

p.s. It’s rare for me to be up posting before the east-coast folks, but I couldn’t sleep tonight. I woke up only a few hours after going to bed, and no amount of relaxing/meditating/trying would get me back to sleep. So after a couple hours, I figured I may as well get a few things done…

 
Comment by whyoung
2011-10-12 05:59:17

“I thought this was an interesting pulse on the psychology of the market”

I think it’s the herd mentality and “misery loves company”, and not just for housing… in every “life stage” the group pressures people to “get with the program”… newly married friends want everyone to get hitched, new parents want everyone to reproduce…

If all your friends are doing more or less the same thing it helps you feel better about your life.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:24:52

“…he suddenly started telling me what a great time it was to buy if that was what you wanted, what with the buyers market, low rates, etc.”

Sounds like what you would expect from someone whose partner works in RE.

Comment by Neuromance
2011-10-12 11:56:00

I’ve had homeowners telling me it’s a great time to buy for years. Only in hindsight do they perhaps let on it wasn’t the best time to buy back then.

But of course, now absolutely is :)

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Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 06:48:45

“I have felt guilty for the past four years”

If your friend had wanted your advice, he would have asked for it. Even asked for advice is rarely followed. Unwelcome advice is taken as an insult.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 08:29:55

OMG, I hate Win7 right now.

Microsoft continues to shoot itself in the foot. I can only begin to imagine all the problems Windows 8 (which is already in pre-beta) will have.

Comment by Al
2011-10-12 09:35:26

I miss DOS.

Comment by Montana
2011-10-12 10:00:26

Me too. Everything MS adds to Windows to make things “easier” instead makes things harder.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 10:46:29

IE9 is a disaster. All sorts of ASP.Net websites don’t work with it.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2011-10-12 10:33:35

DOS had a much better internet experience.

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Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 14:21:11

Linux.

That is all.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-10-12 05:42:49

This old man, he bought four
He flipped two and bought six more
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Got another loan
This old man came rolling home

This old man, refied eight
Now he`s really feeling great
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Got another loan
This old man came rolling home

This old man, he can`t sell
Now he`s saying what the hell
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Got another loan
This old man came rolling home

He can`t sell, he can`t pay
He rents them out anyway
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Can`t get another loan
This old man came rolling home

This old man, starts to say
Why`d they loan me anyway
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
NACA on the phone
This old man came rolling home

This old man, Robo signed
Those eight houses should be mine
With a knick-knack paddywhack,
Don`t need another loan
This old man want`s eight free homes

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 06:31:05

Oh, I love this one!

Comment by mikeinbend
2011-10-12 06:45:42

You really got the knick-knack, paddywhack, write a song-about-a home thing down.

you really should publish a little compilation or at least a greatest hits on virtual vinyl. I’m sure DJ could provide you some beats!

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 07:40:11

What he said.

Seriosuly.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 05:45:25

I suppose we will hear more about Richard Sulik in the coming years.

Slovakia blocks euro rescue fund
By Jan Lopatka and Ingrid Melander
BRATISLAVA/ATHENS | Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:31am EDT

Chairman of Freedom and Solidarity party Richard Sulik attends the Slovak Parliament session on the vote on the euro zone rescue fund tied with Slovak government confidence vote in Bratislava, October 11, 2011. REUTERS/Petr Josek

(Reuters) - The parliament of tiny Slovakia stalled the expansion of a bailout fund to rescue the euro zone from its debt crisis on Tuesday, but international lenders said they were likely to grant a loan to Greece next month, buying time for a broader response.

European Central Bank chief Jean-Claude Trichet said the debt crisis had become systemic and must be tackled decisively.

Slovakia is the only country in the 17-member currency zone that has yet to approve giving new powers to the European Financial Stability Fund. The expansion was agreed by euro zone leaders in July but must be ratified by each country.

The EFSF is Europe’s main weapon to respond to a debt crisis that threatens the European common currency, the region’s banks and potentially the global financial system.

The government of Slovak Prime Minister Iveta Radicova fell on Tuesday after a small party in her ruling coalition refused to back the plans. The outgoing government still expects to be able to enact the measure as a caretaker administration by the end of this week with support from an opposition party.

“There is an assumption that the EFSF, one way or the other, will be approved by the end of the week,” Finance Minister Ivan Miklos told parliament ahead of the vote.

The failure in the Slovak parliament underlines the difficulty of forging a united response to the worsening debt crisis in a currency zone where all 17 member states must act in concert, and voters are increasingly angry at the growing costs.

Leaders are struggling to find a response that would protect euro zone banks if Greece defaults on its debts.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:41:49

Yeah, the first TARP vote failed, too, until sufficient bribes, er, contributions and blandishments and threats of total global financial collapse were duly made. Then the holdouts came around. The issue isn’t principle, it’s price. The Slovak holdouts will come around by next week, wait and see.

Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 07:05:26

I know. The big overgrown, obese, adult baby always gets what it wants. It just has to throw a bigger tantrum sometimes.

The rewarding of bad behavior will not be denied.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 07:45:51

“The Slovak holdouts will come around by next week, wait and see.”

Stock traders appear to concur.

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 09:04:55

They have already caved according to Yahoo! a deal is in the works.

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Comment by goirishgohoosiers
2011-10-12 08:28:10

Not saying that you’re wrong, but many Slovaks have memories of individuals facing down Soviet and other Warsaw Pact nations’ soldiers and tanks in 1968. Yes, they were eventually subdued but it took massive amounts of real firepower to make it happen; a few bankers in pricey suits are not going to make these people quake in their shoes.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 09:16:38

The answer is always money.

The question in this case is “how much?”.

In other words, how much are the French and Germans going to need to offer the Slovaks to get them to say yes.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 05:49:08

Domestic violence law repealed in Topeka, Ks., to save money
Joe Lambe
The Kansas City Star

TOPEKA — The Topeka City Council on Tuesday voted to repeal the city’s law against misdemeanor domestic battery, the latest in a budget battle that has freed about 30 abuse suspects from charges.

One of the offenders was even arrested and released twice since the brouhaha broke out Sept. 8.

It started when Shawnee County District Attorney Chad Taylor announced that a 10 percent budget cut would force him to end his office’s prosecution of misdemeanor cases, almost half of which last year were domestic battery cases.

With that, Taylor stopped prosecuting the cases and left them to the city. But city officials balked at the cost.

Tuesday’s 7-3 vote to eliminate the local domestic violence law was designed to force Taylor to prosecute the cases because they would remain a crime under state law.

The matter has gotten Topeka national attention — and scorn.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:24:18

Harrisburg, PA, is filing for bankruptcy. The first of many municipalities. Topeka is just ahead of the curve in cutting services and prosecutions.

Comment by scdave
2011-10-12 08:05:24

Harrisburg, PA, is filing for bankruptcy ??

Watch the Fareed Zakaria GPS program last Sunday…. Michael Lewis is making a pretty broad call on this, specifically as it relates to California in total support of Meredith Whitney’s call…

 
Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 09:08:41

There needs to be less crimes on the books. We are slowly coming to the realization that criminalizing everything is quite expensive.

Watching Ken Burns “Prohibition” just reinforced the idiocy in trying to legislate morality.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 09:18:15

Stockton took the same path. In seeing how badly Vallejo’s BK was going, they decided to cut costs, rather than file.

 
 
Comment by whyoung
2011-10-12 07:10:11

misdemeanor? under what circumstances is battery a misdemeanor?

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 07:45:39

Maybe black eyes are ok but broken jaws are not?

 
Comment by polly
2011-10-12 08:24:32

from Wikipedia:

In the United States, criminal battery, or simply battery, is the use of force against another, resulting in harmful or offensive contact.[1] It is a specific common law misdemeanor, although the term is used more generally to refer to any unlawful offensive physical contact with another person, and may be a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances. Battery was defined at common law as “any unlawful touching of the person of another by the aggressor himself, or by a substance put in motion by him.”[2] In most cases, battery is now governed by statute, and its severity is determined by the law of the specific jurisdiction.

So, a misdemenor battery might be if someone pushes you and forces you to step backward and nothing else happens. If the cop was at the house and actually observed it, that might lead to an arrest for misdemeanor battery. If you want to be cynical, it is basically a way for the police to separate people who need to be separated. If it causes an injury that could be observed later like a broken leg, my guess is that it would not be a misdemeanor under the state penal code.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-10-12 10:02:40

The reality is that something as simple as throwing a lamp against a wall will get you charged with “Domestic violence/battery”

The cops would rather throw 1000 people in jail on flimsy evidence, than run the risk of getting written up/fired/sued because they didn’t arrest someone, and the perp injures or kills someone.

If you are going to divorce someone, and want to do a real screw job on your former partner, figure out a way to get them charged with “Domestic Violence”. You don’t need a conviction.

My favorite: One of my guys was separated. The wife calls him, tells him to come by the house to talk about getting back together. When he shows up at the house, wife’s brother/Sheriff’s Deputy kicks the crap out of him, then arrests him for domestic violence.

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Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 14:23:50

Exactly.

 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2011-10-12 08:30:28

misdemeanor ??

Are there any left ?? Maybe passing gas in a public place or something ?? Isn’t most everything a felony now ?? Isn’t that what generates the most revenue ??

Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 11:50:24

Nothing like a good misdemeanor in an elevator with friends.

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Comment by sfrenter
2011-10-12 12:09:25

Maybe Kansas can go back to the old British common law: it’s ok to beat your wife as long as you use a stick that is no fatter than your thumb.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-10-12 13:33:16

Remember……these are politicians who are doing this stuff. Basically, this is a pi$$ing contest between the City of Topeka, and the Tea-bagger types that populate the County Commission.

-Tea-baggers cut the “waste, fraud and abuse”, by cutting the county attorney’s budget 10%. So they can cut property taxes on the “hobby farms” and “El Ranchos Costa Too Muchos” out in the county.

-Most domestic violence cases are in the city (at least those where someone is actually charged), so to keep the budget the same, taxes on the (much poorer) city residents have to go up, or the cases don’t get prosecuted.

(Most of the upper lever/paygrade State of Kansas employees do not live in Topeka…..they commute from Lawrence. And you were wondering why the segment of the Kansas Turnpike between Topeka and Lawrence got widened to six lanes before any other segment…)

We are actually ahead of the curve. Expect governments across this great land of ours to try to “outsource” their expenses onto other taxpayers. Or cutting services, like prosecuting misdemeanors. Guess we’ll see how it works out.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 05:55:49

Lawmakers, White House regroup on jobs
President Barack Obama waves as he exits Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base, Md., Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2011.
By Andrew Taylor
Associated Press / October 12, 2011

WASHINGTON—Congress and the White House face the choice of continued fighting or a shift toward bipartisan bargaining after the Senate voted to kill President Barack Obama’s $447 billion jobs plan.

They’re likely to do both as they seek to produce results sought by a discontented public while also drawing bright political lines for voters as the 2012 campaign heats up.

Obama’s plan died at the hands of Senate Republicans on Tuesday, even though the president had been campaigning for it across the country for weeks. The $447 billion plan died on a 50-49 tally in the 100-member Senate, falling well short of the 60 votes needed to crack a filibuster by Republicans opposed to its stimulus-style spending and tax surcharge for the very wealthy.

The tally had been 51-48 but Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., switched his vote to “nay” to reserve the right to force a re-vote. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., is recovering from surgery and did not vote.

Now, the White House and leaders in Congress are already moving on to alternative ways to address the nation’s painful 9.1 percent unemployment, including breaking the legislation into smaller, more digestible pieces. And on Wednesday, both the House and Senate are poised to approve long-stalled trade pacts with Korea, Panama and Colombia.

“Tonight’s vote is by no means the end of this fight,” Obama said in a statement after the vote. “Because with so many Americans out of work and so many families struggling, we can’t take `no’ for an answer.”

Comment by unc
2011-10-12 07:43:07

Hey AP, it didn’t die at the hands of Republicans, in case you didn’t
notice the Democrats control the Senate and can pass anything they
want.

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 08:33:13

A majority of 3 is not “control”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_senate

Comment by unc
2011-10-12 09:11:56

Mitt Romney thinks a “fee” isn’t a “tax” either.

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Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 11:55:59

Over 8 in 10 corporations have tax
havens

By Ken Thomas, Associated Press, from Yahoo News, Jan 16,
2009

WASHINGTON – Eighty-three of the nation’s 100 largest
corporations, including Citigroup, Bank of America and News Corp., had
subsidiaries in offshore tax havens in 2007, and some of the companies received
federal bailout funding, a government watchdog said Friday. The Government Accountability Office released a report that
said Bank of America Inc., Citigroup Inc. and Morgan Stanley all had more than
100 units in countries that maintain low or no taxes. The three financial
institutions were included in the $700 billion financial bailout approved by
Congress. Insurance giant American International Group Inc., which
has received about $150 billion in bailout money, had 18 subsidiaries. JPMorgan
Chase & Co. had 50 units and Wells Fargo & Co. had 18; both financial
institutions received government bailout money.

 
Comment by unc
2011-10-12 15:15:13

ALL ARE UNDER OBAMMYS WATCH.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:36:01

ALL ARE UNDER OBAMMYS WATCH.

But, but, but, it’s about Hope & CHANGE remember?

Now, remind us all who initiates legislative law in America?

(Rather, just cough up that “TrueDoNothing™ / “TrueObstructionists™ / TrueGridLokers™” hairball, so we can hear you enunciate more clearly.)

 
 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 08:53:18

We should have elections like we pass legislation right? Nobody can win till he gets 2/3 of the vote. We just keep having election every month till someone hit the magic number. Heck let’s just make it a scratch-off you pick up free with your lottery tickets.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 09:19:25

died on a 50-49 tally in the 100-member Senate, falling well short of the 60 votes needed to crack a filibuster by Republicans opposed to its stimulus-style spending and tax surcharge for the very wealthy.

Filed under: “Anything you can do, we can do too!”

(The repubicans keep edaKatein’ them democrapts, what was it the repubicans kept wishing for?, Oh yeah, the “Nuclear Option!” ;-)

Wisconsin Senate GOP Tries Nuclear Option for Passing Anti-Union Bill: [UPDATE: It Worked!]

By David Weigel / Slate / Wednesday, March 9, 2011

Up to now, the Budget Repair Bill in Wisconsin has been frozen because all fourteen Senate Democrats will not return to the state to negotiate it. There’s no quorum — the bill, which consists of many fiscal components, can’t pass.

Republicans in the Senate are trying an end run around that now. They have called a conference committee meeting — which is open to the media — where the key fiscal component of the bill, a refinancing provision, will be stripped out. The collective bargaining component, the pay cuts, pension reform — all still there. That would allow the stripped-down bill to pass the Senate with no Democrats present.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 07:57:43

“long-stalled trade pacts with Korea, Panama and Colombia.”

Sounds like more stealth international welfare at the expense of the US worker. But, sure, it’s part of the program to reduce US unemployment.

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 08:17:01

It will reduce unemployment for about 3 years, as Korea buys Caterpillar backhoes. Then Korea will reverse engineer those backhoes and build their own backhoe factory and employ low-wage labor and make more backhoes to sell around the world. Then yet another raft of US jobs will be gone… forever.

Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 09:11:41

Yes that’s what technology wants and you can’t stop it. Now I would expect Caterpillar to invent newer technology that will make the old backhoe obsolete and we stay one step ahead. We do it all the time in the defense business.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 10:09:23

The already did reverse engineer Caterpillar. Komatsu. Other than a Cat I wouldn’t own anything else but a Komatsu. They’re workin’ suns a bitches. The excavators anyways.

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Comment by CrackerJim
2011-10-12 12:25:19

“..wouldn’t own anything else but a Komatsu..”

And to he** with those displaced American jobs. I want what I want when I want it at the cheapest possible price! Besides Americas don’t know how to build anything quality, right?

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 16:10:24

You can stop pandering now CrackheadJim.

 
Comment by CrackerJim
2011-10-13 10:23:26

When you have no sane response, you always fall back to name calling.

 
 
Comment by fraderjack
2011-10-12 22:37:31

I guess you are the same as I was, and really had no idea of the capabilities of the Korean economy.

They don’t have to reverse engineer anything,

Take a look at the economy and what they build.

http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/korea_south/korea_south_economy.html

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:00:48

This “risk-on, risk-off” discussion among financial analysts suggests bailout prospects, not fundamentals, are the driving force behind asset price movements.

European Stocks, U.S. Futures Advance; Copper, Euro Strengthen
October 12, 2011, 7:43 AM EDT
By Paul Armstrong and Shiyin Chen

Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) — European stocks and U.S. index futures rose, while 10-year Treasuries dropped for a sixth day, on investors’ optimism Europe will contain its debt crisis. Copper gained the most in four days and the euro strengthened.

The Stoxx Europe 600 Index climbed 1 percent as of 12:17 p.m. in London. Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futures climbed 1 percent while the Shanghai Composite Index jumped 3 percent, the biggest gain in a year. The 10-year Treasury note yield increased six basis points to 2.21 percent, copper added 1.9 percent and the euro gained 1 percent against the dollar and yen.

European Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said today the region is moving toward a consensus on resolving the “calamity” of the sovereign crisis. Slovakia, the only country that hasn’t ratified a revised bailout fund, was poised for a second vote after failing to approve the package yesterday. Euro-area leaders said this week they’ll have a plan by November to recapitalize banks.

There are two main drivers of the current risk-on environment: market expectations for a recapitalization of the banking system and for a leveraging of the European Financial Stability Facility,” said Alessandro Giansanti, a senior rates strategist at ING Groep NV in Amsterdam.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:02:45

Fitch Says Slovakia’s EFSF Rejection May Extend Euro Crisis
October 12, 2011, 7:23 AM EDT
By Svenja O’Donnell

Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) — Fitch Ratings said Slovakia’s rejection of a proposal to increase the powers of the euro area’s rescue fund will contribute to the region’s crisis persisting for “an extended period.”

The decision “highlights the continued political and technical complexity of establishing the necessary effective institutions in the euro area,” Fitch said in a statement in London today. “Political uncertainties, such as this one, will contribute to the euro-area crisis persisting at varying degrees of intensity for an extended period rather than just a few months.”

Slovakia is the only country in the 17-member region yet to approve the European Financial Stability Facility, and Prime Minister Iveta Radicova wants to start talks with the opposition on a second parliamentary vote, spokesman Michal Lukac said today.

Fitch said that while the nation “appears to be heading toward an agreement,” a second rejection would leave the European Central Bank with “little choice.” The ECB would have to continue to absorb sovereign and bank risk onto it balance sheet, or increase the risk of systemic sovereign default, it said.

“Nevertheless, the agency believes the euro area will eventually reach a hybrid compromise, that prevents break-up but which falls short of full fiscal union, but which will restore confidence,” Fitch said.

– Editors: Fergal O’Brien, Jeffrey Donovan

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2011-10-12 06:03:13

Deadbeat Poets Society

He coveted the squatter’s wealth;
He saw the squatter’s daughter:
Two-Hundred-Thousand upside down?
This place is underwater.

Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 07:23:37

OWS poem

He squatted till the end
Then he squatted on the lease
He squatted on his friend
And even squatted on the police (car).

Comment by goon squad
2011-10-12 09:41:33

That pic was in the (Murdoch-owned) UK Daily Mail and promoted on Drudge. The precinct ID on the NYPD patrol car is in Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Nice try though…

A better place to make a deposit of that nature would be in bank lobbies and on ATM’s :)

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 06:06:12

So let me get this straight: When bailouts are in play, or bailout prospects are high, risky assets are snapped up, sparking a “risk-off” rally in stocks and commodities?

Who pays the price?

OCTOBER 12, 2011, 7:10 A.M. ET

UPDATE: Asian Shares End Mostly Higher; China Banks Extend Rally
By Sarah Turner and Nick Godt

Major Asian equity markets finished off lows Wednesday, as gains for Chinese banks worked to offset losses connected to weak results from U.S. aluminum giant Alcoa and a snag for Europe’s bailout-fund expansion.

Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index rose 1% to close at 18329.46 after dropping as low as 1.9%, while the Shanghai Composite index surged 3% to 2420.00, South Korea’s Kospi advanced 0.8% to 1809.50 and India’s Sensex rose 2.6% to 16958.39.

The Australian S&P/ASX 200 index lost 0.6% to 4204.30 while Japan’s Nikkei Stock Average closed at 8738.90, with a 0.4% loss.

Asian stock markets were sitting on weekly gains after France and Germany recently pledged to support the European banking sector and China’s sovereign-wealth fund bought up shares in selected banks.

However, a stumbling block emerged in the path toward resolving Europe’s debt woes late Tuesday, after the Slovakian parliament rejected a plan to expand the area’s EUR440 billion ($600 billion) bailout fund.

The rejection was not unexpected, as the ruling party had struggled to obtain support for the plan, and approval was expected later in the week, but the news was enough to derail investor enthusiasm for stocks.

“In the absence of an expected resolution in Slovakia, and a lack of fresh drivers, the risk rally spluttered,” said strategists at RBC Capital Markets.

Comment by Rental Watch
2011-10-12 09:21:21

Everyone pays the price through inflation.

It’s a race to the bottom in terms of devaluing currencies.

Who won’t print their way out of this? Even China, if they want to keep their currency in step with the US will need to print money.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 06:09:42

Harrisburg City Council votes 4-3 in favor of Chapter 9 municipal bankruptcy protection ( PA )
The Patriot-News | October 12, 2011 | ERIC VERONIKIS,

Harrisburg City Council answered the state’s takeover threat by voting to seek Chapter 9 municipal bankruptcy protection Tuesday night, essentially adding the courts and more turmoil to the fight over the capital city’s fate.

The same majority who voted down the state-sponsored Act 47 plan and Mayor Linda Thompson’s followup fiscal-recovery plan voted 4-3 to hire Philadelphia-area lawyer Mark Schwartz to fight the takeover and then 4-3 to file for bankruptcy as soon as possible.

“Wake up, Harrisburg. Wake up and look around,” Smith said. “I’m tired of being bent over and spanked in the corner. We should have been filing for bankruptcy in 2010.”

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 06:11:38

As Ron Paul said - who else is on this list?

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Killing Citizens in Secret
NY Books | 10/09/11 | David Cole

Sunday’s New York Times reported that the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel has produced a fifty-page legal memo that purportedly authorized President Obama to order the killing of a US citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki, without a trial. Last month, the US carried out that order with a drone strike in Yemen that killed al-Awlaki and another US citizen traveling with him. The strike was front-page news, and apparently was undertaken with the approval of Yemen authorities, yet as it was a “covert operation,” the Obama administration has declined even to acknowledge that it ordered the killing.

So now we know that there is a secret memo that authorized a secret killing of a US citizen—and both the memo and the killing remain officially “secret” despite having been reported on the front page of The New York Times. Whatever one thinks about the merits of presidents ordering that citizens be killed by remote-controlled missiles, surely there is something fundamentally wrong with a democracy that allows its leader to do so in “secret,” without even demanding that he defend his actions in public.

Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 07:37:01

I don’t really understand this controversy. Drone atacks and undeclared wars are controversial, but the issue is firing on a US citizen. In battle, a traitor can be shot without hesitation (or trial). It’s at the discretion of the commanding officer, no? Hasn’t it always been so?

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 07:47:34

Exactly. This is just the news outlets trying to make news. Something they are very good at. (as opposed to actually reporting the news)

Comment by indioadjacent
2011-10-12 12:21:33

Awlaki broadcast publically renounced his US citizenship.

We all know if this were an RNC administration the right would be defending this action.

How do you feel about Habeas Corpus, Gitmo “detainees”?

Unfortunately lobotomies cannot be reversed.

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Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 08:02:24

It was not in battle nor in a war zone.

He was in a car in Yemen

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 08:36:04

Does the name “Cole” ring any bells?

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Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 08:36:35

Viet cong were not in a “war zone” either. Gadaffi? Bin Laden?

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Comment by Steve J
2011-10-12 09:12:04

NOT in battle, only in WAR.

No war has been declared since 1941.

The people in Gitmo are called “enemy combatants” not POW.

Wars end by the way.

 
 
Comment by SV guy
2011-10-12 19:20:18

Anybody defending Amerika’s right to snuff its citizens needs to step back and give the concept a little more thought, imo. And we don’t get to hear an explanation? Weak.

I have always found it ironic that our MSM will call someone shooting back at our occupying forces as a terrorist. If China or anyone else invaded the US yes I would shoot back.

Comment by indioadjacent
2011-10-12 20:38:53

How do you justify this person as a citizen when he has publically called for the destruction of our government and our way of life.

Awlaki is a traitor working directly with the enemy. This concept was first litigated during world war 2.

Nuance is important. You’re not a “zero tolerance” rule guy by chance?

 
 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:16:29

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=195841

OWS: The risks facing America today.

 
Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 06:21:22

“Washington got involved in a self-inflicted wound with the debt ceiling fiasco.” [This, and other] things, I think, led to both consumers and businesses taking a big step backwards and saying, we are just not sure where this thing is going.”

~Barack H. Obama

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 06:24:55

(North Tustin is 8 miles as the crow flies from the roof tiles of the former SEC Bulldog , crissy “Enforcer” cox’s Newport Beach, CA $helter) ;-)

Morning news from CA, GOPville,…”Thee O.C.!”

SEC: Ponzi schemers lived large in O.C.:
October 11th, 2011, by Ronald Campbell

The SEC charged that Aubrey, his brother Timothy of Moreno Valley, Brian S. Cherry of Newport Beach and Aaron M. Glasser of Costa Mesa sold fake oil wells to more than 200 investors through Progressive Energy Partners. The company operated from 2005 until April 2010.

PEP claimed to be drilling oil wells in West Virginia. In fact, the SEC alleged, the company stopped drilling wells after the first of its five investment deals but continued soliciting money. Of the $11 million it raised from investors, the SEC said, the company spent just $887,000 drilling for oil.

Give Jerry L. Aubrey credit: He knew how to live.

His three-story, 4,000-sq.-ft. North Tustin home had a tennis court, big-screen TVs and giant fish tanks filled with exotic fish and miniature sharks. He rode in a limo to Staples Center, where he enjoyed Lakers games in a box seat. He bought his girlfriend a Lexus.

Best of all, other people paid for his lifestyle.

PEP offered private placements, which are supposed to be sold only to sophisticated investors who can afford to lose every penny. The price for a single unit was $25,000.

PEP used a traditional “cold calling” strategy: “Fronters” made unsolicited calls to potential investors, whose names and phone numbers were purchased from lead brokers. Tim Aubrey supervised the fronters.

“Closers” called those who showed interest, pressing them to make the deal. Jerry Aubrey supervised the closers.

The SEC is seeking a court order requiring the Aubreys, Cherry and Glasser to disgorge ill-gotten gains. The government also wants a court order permanently barring Jerry Aubrey from selling unregistered securities.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 06:44:02

They didn’t grease the right Republicrat palms and thus weren’t able to swindle with impunity like their TBTF bankster counterparts.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-10-12 06:47:15

There should be such things as Barnum Awards just as there are such things as Darwin Awards.

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 08:37:13

There are! But we call them “Congressmen.” :lol:

 
 
 
Comment by mikeinbend
2011-10-12 06:35:00

Looking for a rental, I stumbled upon this post on our local Craigslist, entitled “$1900 Bend landlords please read”. Spot on analysis of what landlords are doing here, jacking up the rent right up to the amount that people were unable to pay on their mortgages. Used to be that $1000 would get you a decent home to rent; now it’s more like $1500 or more; note typos are the poster’s, not that I don’t make plenty myself… And if vacancies are lingering, well that doesn’t matter too much as app fees at management companies are about $40..and there are plenty of suckers willing to apply.

We almost applied to a desirable rental; CL ad said dogs OK. 40 bucks per adult app fee. Saw on their other website that pets were NOT preferred. Could have thrown 80 bucks down that hole……

Dear landlords. I’m not too sure what’s been happening in Bend over the past year or so, but it appears to be price gauging–something we’ve all felt at the gas station for a number of years. I guess you are all just capitolizing on all the poor people who’ve lost their homes and have no alternative but to pay the exhorborant rents you all are charging. If people had decent credit, they could easily buy for MUCH MUCH less than you are charging for rents. Also, when you have to pay over 4000 just to get into a home, then pay 1400 and up a month for a decent place..then you ask for a credit check???? Seriously…if people had decent credit, do you think they’d be foolish enough to rent when they could buy for LESS? How do you all expect normal, working people in bend, on bend’s wages, to afford rents at 1400 a month and up?? I urge you dear landlords…you DON’T'T have to keep up with the property management companies who have continued to hike the prices…you could just do the right thing, and make the rent affordable for a family. Thanks for reading. Hope someone gets to read this before itks flagged to quickly

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2011-10-12 06:57:26

Are the landlords getting renters at those rates?

Comment by mikeinbend
2011-10-12 07:13:41

Yep…can easily pay 2k for a rental here in the middle of the cold desert. The ones priced reasonably (less than 1k for a simple 3/2)go within hours, unless managed by a company that collects $$ for apps. What a racket; we refuse to play with those companies thus far.

And that CL poster has valid points; if he had a good credit score and 5k; he could easily buy for cheaper. So the management companies are scraping 40 bucks off a person only to deny them for poor credit. So the landlords hold the cards.

At least in coastal CA; one can find some sort of employment and still get a rental for 2k.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 08:04:29

2k a month for a Meth cooker he can easily afford that nice secluded location…justa perfect just a pefect

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Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 08:21:31

“I guess you are all just capitolizing on all the poor people who’ve lost their homes and have no alternative but to pay the exhorborant rents you all are charging. If people had decent credit, they could easily buy for MUCH MUCH less than you are charging for rents.”

Welcome to DC!

Comment by CA renter
2011-10-14 04:32:38

And California.

 
 
Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 11:58:21

Why stay in Bend? Cold, no jobs, huge bubble built too many tract homes, isolated, cold, high COL for what you get. Head for NM.

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 13:40:35

I vaguely remember that Mike is a teacher certified only in CO and can’t afford (?) more certifications, and is somewhat disabled too. Moving out of state may not be an option.

Comment by mikeinbend
2011-10-12 17:19:03

It’s more that my kids moved around alot with us in the bubble years; are in a community school and in 5th and 7th grade.
I have an Oregon teaching license and will need to upgrade to a Masters in 2013. May have to borrow a bit to do it, but its not may main concern. I do own a home outright; may just evict our tenant rather than pay too much in rent. But that would mean a 45 min commute to kids school/mom’s work(lunch lady at their school).

My doc is here and can keep me working w/meds.

Life sucks w/o money; but I love my kids and love to see em happy and well adjusted. There are some jobs here in education; probably true anywhere; that and medical.

New Mex sounds rad. maybe after kids graduate from H.S.
And parents are here in C. Oregon too; actually they are buying a short sale and renting it to us for $800/month. Just that the dam thing wont close before we get displaced; so we gotta get a rental off the open market.

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-10-12 15:03:48

Good post Mike. This is how Portland is right now as well. I had a small house (1000sf on main, 600sf in dry basement) very close to the center of town that I rented out for $1195 per month up until I sold it to my renter in 2007. Anything similar would now rent for $160-1750 easily. I don’t know what renters are thinking by signing up for this. Two things. (1) Now that I’m a renter, it is maddening to see these rates in an environment of 2004 level pricing. (2) I should have held onto that house.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2011-10-12 15:04:58

I meant “$1600-1750″ easily.

 
 
 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 07:35:39

The market is booming.
But where are all the buyers?
Shadow inventory is looming,
Realtors are Liars.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 09:52:27

lmao

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 07:38:57

Oct. 11, 2011, 6:36 p.m. EDT
Fewer will get a mortgage next year
Next year, mortgage volume is expected to be lowest since 1997
By Amy Hoak, MarketWatch

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) — Mortgage rates will continue to remain near lows for the year ahead, while home prices are expected to remain flat, the Mortgage Bankers Association’s chief economist said on Tuesday.

And both are expected do little to inspire anyone to buy a home.

Right now, many renters are content to continue renting, said Jay Brinkmann, chief economist for the group, speaking at the MBA’s annual convention in Chicago this week. “As we start seeing the first stories of prices going up, that will pick up the markets somewhat,” he said.

Rates on the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage are expected to average 4.4% next year, after averaging about 4.5% in 2011, according to the MBA’s forecast. Rates are expected to climb to an average 4.9% in 2013.

This expectation of low rates and low prices is part of what is keeping consumers standing pat.

“Consumers are pretty well in tune,” said Doug Duncan, chief economist for Fannie Mae, adding that they “have a good grip on the fact prices are not going to go up anytime soon.”

The housing market is in the fifth year of a 10-year adjustment in prices, said Duncan, who briefed reporters at the convention. He expects a 3% decline in prices from now until early next year, excluding distressed sales, with prices flat the rest of 2012.

And that means another weak year for the mortgage industry.

In total, $900 billion in mortgage originations are expected for 2012 — the lowest volume for the industry since 1997, according to the MBA. Originations are expected to total $1.2 trillion in 2011. Next year, refinancing is expected to drop significantly, coupled with only a slight increase in mortgages to purchase a home.

Of course, any forecast these days comes with a slew of caveats.

Europe may already be in a recession, and the default of Greece is a foregone conclusion, Brinkmann said. A recession across the pond could pull the United States into a mild recession, he added.

“If the economy tips into recession, rates would stay lower for longer, but we do not anticipate they would drop significantly. If the economy recovers more quickly, even with the Fed’s Operation Twist, longer-term rates could rise faster,” Brinkmann said.

 
Comment by liz pendens
2011-10-12 07:44:42

The Tan Man ripped them off
Flippers and homoaners without fail
A bigger con-man than Madoff
Why isn’t he in Jail?

Comment by Steve W
2011-10-12 08:30:27

Confidence taken in, by a suntan and a grin…

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 07:47:18

Today’s Homes: Lee Highway Edition

House 1: Reston, VA

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10860-Grovehampton-Ct-Reston-VA-20194/51711366_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}

1998 5/3.5 on 0.21 acres. Standard issuse white-siding McM with all the goodies except granite. Big rooms, man cave, small yard, two-car garage.

The high end is still in wishing-price land, as if there were no bubble out here.

Jul 1998: Sold $324K.
Jun 2010: Sold $775K.
Oct 2011: Listed $759K. Gimme a break.

House 2: McLean, VA

1982 4/3.5 Got the nice amenities: hardwood, granite, stainless, lots of room, fireplaces.

Jun 1991: Sold $230K
Feb 2002: Zestimated $397K
May 2011: Listed $647K

Oh by the way… this is a rowhouse

House 3: McLean again

1959 3/3 rambler on 0.25 acre. This is a nicely kept home very similar to what I’ve been looking for, only a lot bigger. Hardwood floors, middle-class kitchen. Nice price, too! Listed for just $650K! :roll:

House 4: You must be a member of Congress

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1068-Bellview-Rd-Mc-Lean-VA-22102/51725930_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}

2000 7/8.5 on 5 acres. Pool, 10 cars garage, in-law suite included, Viking/granite/SS/etc.

there’s a home tour with pix, but it’s not working well for me, go here: http://pix1.homevisit.com/mlsTour/?id=53776&skin=&ver=1&fp=

Talk about a wishing price:

Oct 2011: Zestimated $2.066M
Oct 2011: Tax assess $1.923 M
Oct 2011: Listed $5.45 M

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 08:24:27

Sorry, the McLean rowhouse is here:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1503-Natalie-Joy-Ln-Mclean-VA-22101/51751542_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}

And the McLean rambler is here:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1440-Mayflower-Dr-Mclean-VA-22101/51751352_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-list-address}

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 08:12:02

I wonder if those containers are water tight? or lots of holiday gifts are really underwater

http://news.yahoo.com/stricken-ship-cracks-captain-faces-nz-court-114754126.html

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 08:39:37

Generally, yes they are watertight.

Not that it matters. You would be surprsied at how much ocean salvage takes place very year related to containers.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 10:01:29

Those are intermodals. They’re no more water tight than a window screen.

Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 12:24:23

RAL:

I guess i am shocked that they wouldnt be water tight if traveling on water….or not able to fall of so easily

I guess as long as the contents are insured. whatsa little problem hittin a reef?

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Comment by SV guy
2011-10-12 19:31:12

Sea-Vans aren’t watertight. Newer ones do ok but they take a beating in short order.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2011-10-12 10:07:38

More Bungi Cords!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:29:35

More Bungi Cords!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheney-$hrub: “Hurry, HURRY!,…or this whole $ucker could go down!”
+
Jan 19th 2009: “we want lil’ Opie to succeed, really we do!” :-)

 
 
Comment by whyoung
2011-10-12 13:31:00

A few years ago was visiting friends on an AFB in Japan… Had to go to the HQ to get a permit to stay on the base…

While we were there a youngish couple was there, wife in tears - they had just been told that the container with all their household goods had been dumped mid-pacific by a ship due to a storm.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:28:44

While we were there a youngish couple was there, wife in tears - they had just been told that the container with all their household goods had been dumped mid-pacific by a ship due to a storm.

Transpose that $it-u-ational “dilemma” to “un-natural mi$takes” to innocents in: Iraq / Afghanistan / Libya / Pakistan / Syria / Egypt / Lebanon / Yemen, Sudan… seems like eyes makin’ a list…

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-10-12 20:52:15

Thats why in a miltary town you can get so much good stuff for so little $$ or free…most dont want to take that chance.

I mean how much stuff do you really have to move to the next pace?

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 09:31:09

California is doomed. It will continue to sink into the public union goon financial black hole (and pandering to illegals swamp) until the last productive worker leaves.

They will cry for bailouts again and agian. They will print IOUs. And they will not understand why no one wants to work/live there or start a business there anymore (except if you are in a public union - of course)…

—————————

Gov. Jerry Brown is giving unions most of what they seek
Los Angeles Times | 10/12/11 | Michael J. Mishak and Anthony York

When the dust settled on Gov. Jerry Brown’s first legislative session in nearly three decades, no group had won more than organized labor, which heralded its largest string of victories in nearly a decade.

Those unions and others helped bankroll Brown’s campaign last year.

Brown has long compared governing to steering a canoe — you paddle a little on the left, he says, and a little on the right. And indeed, he signed some measures desired by key interest groups this year while vetoing others.

Labor was no exception: He rejected a proposal to unionize tens of thousands of child-care workers, a measure to hamper new development by big-box retailers such as Wal-Mart and one to limit fees that banks can charge on workers who use company pay cards — debit cards issued by employers instead of paychecks.

But in the end, no group scored as much as labor. Brown embraced much of its wish list, an agenda his predecessor had thwarted.

“Finally, after seven long years of [Gov. Arnold] Schwarzenegger, we’re moving in the right direction again,” said Steve Smith, a spokesman for the California Labor Federation.

Brown has said he reviewed each bill on its merits after considerable research. “There were some tough calls, but in each case he acted in the best interests of the people of California,” said Brown spokesman Gil Duran.

The governor has a complicated relationship with labor. ..

Last year .. Brown pledged to be a “hard bargainer for the public interest,” saying he had the freedom to buck special interests in the twilight of his political career. Still, labor invested heavily in him, spending more than $29 million on his behalf and contributing millions more directly to his campaign.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 10:38:44

At some point they won’t be able to borrow anymore money. Then the day of reckoning (and change) will arrive.

Of course we shouldn’t overlook that non-union, “right to work” states like Texas have even bigger deficits than California.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 10:48:30

yeah but……. but…. it’s those damn goons!

Comment by mathguy
2011-10-12 11:13:06

I don’t see (yes I do) why it has to be politicized. Workers were fighting for better conditions. They got better conditions… However it went a bit too far and will now cost the state too much money based on the current state income so it needs to be scaled back. Of course the workers won’t like making less. Hopefully we can avoid increasing taxes on the middle class and poor just to avoid some discomfort for state employees though.

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Comment by 2banana
2011-10-12 10:56:14

Of course we shouldn’t overlook that non-union, “right to work” states like Texas have even bigger deficits than California.

???

California (2011)
Budget Shortfall: $13,800m (13.4%)

Texas (2011)
Budget Shortfall: $3,300m (7.8%)

And PS - Texas is one of the few states actually adding jobs and aggressively CUTTING spending.

What what you think this chart will look like in 2-3 years???

www DOT ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2407a698-9920-11df-9418-00144feab49a.html#axzz1aahyB5bK

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 11:23:25

The Texas numbers are fake. If you look into the structure of the budget, you will see that the deficit is as big as CA’s. Only by accounting fantasy were they able to show a lessened deficit.

Remember, Enron was based in Texas.

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Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 12:03:45

Do you mean Perry is not a genius?

 
Comment by CrackerJim
2011-10-12 12:29:06

Whereas the CA numbers are dead on?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:15:06

Remember, Enron was based in Texas.

So are the x1 million American Texas children without lil’ Opie’s “Evil” National Federal health coverage. :-)

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 12:36:17

I recall reading not too long ago that thet Texas numbers were in the 10 billion+ range.

I also read that Texas partly covered its deficit by raiding its rainy day fund to the tune of 4.3B last year.

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Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 14:33:44

24 Billion. You tell me how they magicaly trimmed that down to 3 billion…

…in just a few months.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:19:31

24 Billion. You tell me how they magicaly trimmed that down to 3 billion…

…in just a few months.

Anyone left over in Texas from $hrub’s promotion to “I’m-the-Decider!”?

(Eyes just had a molly Ivins flashback…)

 
 
 
 
Comment by unc
2011-10-12 15:30:38

Here, Here

 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 09:39:46

Another example of how we do fraud in Texas. The ignorant people here in Texas are a ‘feature’ not a bug. According to our next president Mr. Perry we’re the #1 destination for new ‘business’.

“Fine in Mansfield man’s Ponzi scam upped to $19 million”

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/10/11/3437435/fine-in-mansfield-mans-ponzi-scam.html

“To carry out the scheme, White told current and prospective customers that, because of his company’s purported success in foreign exchange trading, it would be able to generate returns of up to 8 percent a week — a dubious annual rate of return of 416 percent, according to a court order.”

 
Comment by Seen it all
2011-10-12 09:47:24

Always a popular subject:
the strategic defaulter

The share of strategic delinquencies among the total has risen to about 26 percent to 27 percent from 20 percent a year ago, according to the report.

Amherst Securities Group LP analyst Laurie Goodman said lenders need to reduce principal for homeowners to stem the foreclosure crisis, which otherwise may engulf more than 10 million additional properties, she estimated.

A record of almost 33 percent of the $1.2 trillion of so- called securitized non-agency loans are at least 30 days delinquent, in foreclosure or have been turned into seized property, according to Bloomberg data based on August bond reports. That also reflects a slowdown in liquidations of bad loans amid probes into servicers’ use of flawed paperwork.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-03/strategic-mortgage-delinquencies-as-high-as-27-jpmorgan-says.html

Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 13:42:04

Why do lenders need to stem the foreclosure crisis?

 
 
Comment by SOLD IN 04
2011-10-12 10:05:57

like Herman Cain…at least he has a plan…something lacking from the others….He doesn’t have an army of 12 paying them 6 million dollars of MY tax money(…sort of like his Solyndra, Fast and Furious Money. and even Nancy Piglosi’s company ( her husband’s)) to keep them sealed. He didn’t go to Occidental College as a “foreign” student. He had to actually work and not be given anything…Oh yeah, he didn’t get “free rides” at any public “preparatory” school. His dad had to work for a living…..I believe as a barber, janitor, and chauffeur BUT, nobody wants to hear any yukky details.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/10/11/126946/herman-cains-9-9-9-jobs-plan-at.html#disqus_thread#ixzz1aaW6dw48

Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 10:35:49

So if I understand Cain correctly … he wants to lower the richies’ income taxes to just 9%, while socking the under $500 a week crowd with a 9% income and 9% national sales tax (presumably).

And since the “Lucky Duckies” spend most of their income on items that are subject to sales tax (unlike the rick) and their incomes are fully subject to the payroll tax they will pay a bigger percentage of their income in taxes than the “$uffering $o’s” as Hwy call them.

Looks like the rich will be taken care of … again.

I wonder if Pastor Cain read the parts in the New Testament that talk about the rich and camels passing through eyes of needles?

Comment by CrackerJim
2011-10-12 12:34:35

“..while socking the under $500 a week crowd with a 9% income”

I think Cain’s 9% income tax plan deletes payroll taxes now in place (FICA, Medicare). This replaces 15.24% FICA, MED (including employer portion) with 9% straight. Could be wrong but that’s how I read it.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-12 12:45:33

Even if the payroll tax were to disappear (and how does he propose to fund SS and Medicare? Unless he means to get rid of them.) it’s still regressive.

And in visiting his website I saw this little doozy:

“• Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits

So I presume that Capital gains will be exempt from all taxation. And even if they aren’t, it’s still a tax break for the rich (9% vs 15%). It’s good to be the king!

Sounds like the super rich would pay no income tax at all while less than $500 a week “Lucky Duckies” would pay almost 20% of their income in income and sales taxes.

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Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 13:45:09

“zero tax on repatriated profits”

This alone is enough to send him to the dustbowl of history. I’m tired of this namby pamby soft landing. If we’re gonna have a depression, let’s just have one. Just import $1 frozen pizza from China and BE DONE WITH IT ALREADY.

 
Comment by SDGreg
2011-10-12 18:29:51

“• Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits

We can’t have the idle rich paying one more dime in the taxes they’re already not paying.

By all means, OWS needs to continue the protests outside the mansions of the Wall Street profiteers. Those profiteers should hope the protests remain more American than French.

 
 
 
Comment by Pete
2011-10-12 21:14:49

“So if I understand Cain correctly … he wants to lower the richies’ income taxes to just 9%, while socking the under $500 a week crowd with a 9% income and 9% national sales tax (presumably).”

What if Cain were to add a second bracket, making over 250,000 a year, who have to pay 11%? Cain’s campaign slogan could be “9-9-9/11-11-11″. Kill two birds with one stone that way.

 
 
Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 12:25:37

“at least he has a plan”

huh? is that all we require now? Bad plans count too??

Comment by indioadjacent
2011-10-12 12:48:47

The right’s refusal to do the math is becoming agonizing.

I earn middle 6 figures and I guarantee you my total tax burden is somewhere around 3-6% more than the top earners.

Independents need to keep hammering on the math and it might start to sink in.

As many have said here, the only class warfare I see is the rich pillaging the everyone else.

A little bit of historical reference is valuable: slavery was the ultimate “game-changer” for the wealthy. Jobs for everyone!

I worry about us as a nation and a species oftentimes. We really (well, some of us *cough* GOP/tea party) are not far removed from wild animals. Missing links all around if you look close enough.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:04:35

Bad plans count too??

Or as Wing-Nut would say: “6-6-6″ = “the devil revealed in detail$”

Comment by AVOCAD0
2011-10-12 16:18:59

they should have caught that, maybe 10 9 8 would be better.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 13:39:36

He didn’t go to Occidental College as a “foreign” student.

Inconceivable! Just as you posted this, $arah “The Baracuda”/ “The Rogue” tax deducted bu$-tour-of-America just went by your window! ;-)

 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 13:46:39

Speaking of people who had janitor daddies and had to work for a living, what do you think of Elizabeth Warren?

Comment by unc
2011-10-12 15:34:41

She is a socialist who can’t take a joke, that she started commenting
on Scott Brown.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-10-12 15:49:03

And what was the joke she couldn’t take?

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Comment by SV guy
2011-10-12 19:36:17

You mean the Herman Cain who was a Fed Governer?

No thanks.

 
 
Comment by AZGolfer
2011-10-12 10:47:11

The girl I have talked about living off the equity in her house accounced last weekend that she got a job in the Amazon warehouse in Phoenix. I have read about some very poor working conditions - Does anyone have any first hand experience with this?

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-10-12 13:41:14

Warehouses get hotter than hell during the summer, if no provisions are made for cooling the place off. Especially loading/unloading the trailers. Zero airflow. Heat soaking to the max.

Used to work in a warehouse. We’d see temps inside the truck of 120 degrees or more. Fortunately, the dock was air conditioned, so we’d get some time to cool off a little when we pulled carts/pallets off the trailer, and onto the dock. That, and we’d try to finish unloading trucks before 1pm. And this was in KC, not Phoenix.

Warehouses that get hot isn’t a surprise to anyone who has actually worked in one. Not the kind of job you want to start in July or August. You need a little acclimation.

Comment by MightyMike
2011-10-12 17:08:31

I posted this link a couple of weeks ago. The stroy is about the Amazon warehouse near Allentown, PA. The problems with heat were so bad that Amazon had ambulances standing by at the warehouse.

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/amazon/

 
 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-12 11:03:26

……. because Realtors Are Liars®

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:23:31

& Goldenman$ucks is an “investment MegaBank$omething/ Oil $torage Inc.” that has no connection “what-so-ever” with the price$ of ga$oline in America. :-)

 
 
Comment by measton
2011-10-12 11:16:44

Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News) and Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS - News) may shed the “bank holding company” classification in order to skirt the Volcker rule banning propriety trading with the firm’s own capital, according to Susquehanna Financial Group analyst David Hilder.

Seriously ?@#$?!#@$?%

GS became a bank to get some of that sweet TARP and FED money, now that there may be one or two strings poof their investment houses again.

Comment by turkey lurkey
2011-10-12 11:26:36

You’re surprised… why?

 
Comment by oxide
2011-10-12 13:48:00

If GS the bank starts trading favorably with GS the investment house, nail them on collusion.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:12:39

If GS the bank starts trading favorably with GS the investment house, nail them on collusion.

So, you don’t see the the problem with G$ the Oil $torage CO. Inc. & G$ the “Peak Oil” trading Co.Inc.? ;-)

 
 
 
Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 12:26:27

Layoffs loom in Matthews
Structural Preservation Systems, a Maryland-based construction firm, to close office, lay off 125 workers.
By Ely Portillo elyportillo@charlotteobserver.com Oct. 12, 2011

About 125 construction employees are set to lose their jobs, as a Maryland-based building firm has filed papers with the state saying the company will close its Matthews office.

Structural Preservation Systems sent a letter to N.C. officials last week under the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act. The law requires employers to notify the state of mass layoffs.

The company said it will permanently close its branch office on Matthews-Mint Hill Road, with layoffs of the 125 workers based there beginning within 30 days. The employees include skilled construction workers, field technicians, project managers, engineers and estimators, Structural Preservation Systems said, and they were told of the closure last week.

Cathy Ullery, the company’s human resource head, couldn’t be reached Tuesday afternoon for comment. The company has more than a dozen offices nationwide.

Unemployment remains high in Mecklenburg County, with an August jobless rate of 11 percent and more than 50,000 people looking for work.

The construction sector has been hit hard as projects stalled. The most recent data from the N.C. Employment Security Commission shows construction was the hardest-hit employment sector locally, with the biggest year-over-year decline in jobs.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 14:07:49

Georgia North Carolina = “a right not to find work” State

 
 
Comment by WMBZ
2011-10-12 12:37:03

This Atlanta deal was snapped up for a song, wonder if it was Mr.& Mrs. Eddie?

ITEM: Real estate dream turns into a nightmare after $45m mansion sells for just $11.5m By Rachel Quigley 12th October 2011

They thought they were building a dream home.

But the dream soon turned into a nightmare when a $45million Atlanta mansion was foreclosed and then sold at a massive 75 per cent drop at only $11.5million.
Forsyth County Estate Le Rêve - French for ‘the dream’ - was foreclosed in late 2010 after taking three years to build with no expense spared by Hubert and Norma Humphrey.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048025/Forsyth-County-Estate-Le-R-ve–45m-mansion-sells-just-11-5m.html#ixzz1ab7xeVbU

 
Comment by frankie
2011-10-12 13:32:40

America’s commutes start earlier and last longer

Working in the city and living on one’s own land far out in the countryside has always been a goal for many Americans. The recession has turned hours of commuting to and from work into a reality that’s hard to escape.

Every morning, Catherine Fortney’s alarm rings at 03:30 and by the time the clock strikes 06:00, she must be at the nearby bus stop

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15207973

Be easier to sleep in the office.

Comment by whyoung
2011-10-12 15:21:01

I’ve worked with people with similar commutes (to NYC from places like western New Jersey and even Philadelphia) they do it “for the kids” but the eventual price the whole family pays is tremendous.

At least 10 years ago they could “crack”, sell and move closer in. Now, it’s got to be worse with an underwater house…

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 13:54:49

Eyes’ll be brief, while-in-my-briefs: :-)

BWAHAHAHicHAHAHicHAHAHAHAHicHAHAHic* (DennisN™)

Ho ho, hah hah, hehehehehehe, BwaHaHaAhHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower™)

heheeeheeeheehaahaaahaaheeehaahaaa… (Hwy50™)

Goldman, Morgan Stanley May Shed ‘Bank’ Status:

Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News) and Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS - News) may shed the “bank holding company” classification in order to skirt the Volcker rule banning propriety trading with the firm’s own capital,

“The regulators have proposed a massive new compliance burden on banks to prove that their market-making activities are just that and not proprietary trading in disguise,”

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 14:00:04

PM: (Post-Mortem) :-)

The analyst went on to cite “regulatory risk” as one of the factors that could derail a comeback by the shares.

“Goldman operates several businesses including financial and physical commodity trading, private equity or derivatives that could face greater regulation, or in a severe case, require Goldman to divest some business units,” the analyst said.

Both Goldman and Morgan Stanley declined to comment.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:54:36

Oh, wait:

Oil price falls as experts see weaker demand:
Oil price drops as IEA follows OPEC and cuts global [ "peak!" ] oil demand forecast

Chris Kahn, AP Energy Writer, On Wednesday October 12, 2011

Meanwhile, U.S. motorists continued to cut back on driving. MasterCard SpendingPulse reported that drivers bought less gas for the 29th week in a row. Gas consumption last week was down about 2 percent from the same period last year

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 21:33:17

“Goldman, Morgan Stanley May Shed ‘Bank’ Status”

Wasn’t it just back in Fall 2008 when these firms were on the receiving end of one of the largest bank bailouts in history?

Wall Street banks in $70bn staff payout

Pay and bonus deals equivalent to 10% of US government bail-out package

Simon Bowers
guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 October 2008 15.08 EDT
Article history

Wall Street demonstrators

Demonstrators protesting in New York before the $700bn Wall Street bail-out earlier this month. Photograph: Nicholas Roberts/AFP/Getty images

Financial workers at Wall Street’s top banks are to receive pay deals worth more than $70bn (£40bn), a substantial proportion of which is expected to be paid in discretionary bonuses, for their work so far this year - despite plunging the global financial system into its worst crisis since the 1929 stock market crash, the Guardian has learned.

Staff at six banks including Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are in line to pick up the payouts despite being the beneficiaries of a $700bn bail-out from the US government that has already prompted criticism. The government’s cash has been poured in on the condition that excessive executive pay would be curbed.

Pay plans for bankers have been disclosed in recent corporate statements. Pressure on the US firms to review preparations for annual bonuses increased yesterday when Germany’s Deutsche Bank said many of its leading traders would join Josef Ackermann, its chief executive, in waiving millions of euros in annual payouts.

The sums that continue to be spent by Wall Street firms on payroll, payoffs and, most controversially, bonuses appear to bear no relation to the losses incurred by investors in the banks. Shares in Citigroup and Goldman Sachs have declined by more than 45% since the start of the year. Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley have fallen by more than 60%. JP MorganChase fell 6.4% and Lehman Brothers has collapsed.

At one point last week the Morgan Stanley $10.7bn pay pot for the year to date was greater than the entire stock market value of the business. In effect, staff, on receiving their remuneration, could club together and buy the bank.

In the first nine months of the year Citigroup, which employs thousands of staff in the UK, accrued $25.9bn for salaries and bonuses, an increase on the previous year of 4%. Earlier this week the bank accepted a $25bn investment by the US government as part of its bail-out plan.

At Goldman Sachs the figure was $11.4bn, Morgan Stanley $10.73bn, JP Morgan $6.53bn and Merrill Lynch $11.7bn. At Merrill, which was on the point of going bust last month before being taken over by Bank of America, the total accrued in the last quarter grew 76% to $3.49bn. At Morgan Stanley, the amount put aside for staff compensation also grew in the last quarter to the end of August by 3% to $3.7bn.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:56:54

It honestly freaks me out that these Wall Street scam artists get away with the financial engineering equivalent of theft again and again in plain view, with no legal consequences for their illegal actions. I guess my abysmal ignorance of the law is acting up again, but it just leaves me scratching my head every time I read about this stuff…

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:46:51

:-)

Ra$h Limpbaugh$: Election 2012, “Cain is able vs Hussein Obama” = a dark day in American Politics,…(check back for updates)

NBC/WSJ poll: Cain now leads GOP pack:
By Mark Murray Deputy political director

Fueled by Tea Party supporters, conservatives and high-interest GOP primary voters, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain now leads the race for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

And in yet another sign of how volatile the Republican race has been with less than three months until the first nominating contests, the onetime frontrunner, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, has plummeted to third place, dropping more than 20 percentage points since late August.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-10-12 15:50:13

And the hunt for anybody but Romney continues…

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 15:56:22

Look up, …at those Ms. in “Yankee Maine”, they’re Republicans, really! :-)

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-12 16:00:12

Look up NORTH ;-)

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 19:21:54

But nobody’s hair is more Presidential than Romney’s. Remember, this is the same electorate that voted for Obama and McCain.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-12 17:18:26

The Republicans need to nominate no one.

Because “no one” could deliver something for nothing now that the country is bankrupt, but that’s what people want.

“No one” can beat President Obama.

 
 
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Comment by Muggy
2011-10-12 16:20:30

The clock is ticking on homeowners who want to take advantage of Bank of America’s recently announced short-sale incentive program.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/clock-ticking-on-bank-of-america-short-sale-cash-offer/1196523

 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 16:34:59

Little hints that the low end job market will be looking better in the months ahead. Wonder if the price of chicken will rise?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/12/2451173/immigration-backfire.html

Immigration backfire

OUR OPINION: State anti-immigrant measures harm their own economies
By The Miami Herald Editorial
HeraldEd@MiamiHerald.com

The latest news from the war-against-immigrants front: Hispanics in Alabama skipped work on Wednesday to protest the state’s toughest-in-the-nation immigration law, forcing at least six poultry plants to close down or scale back operations and hurting business across the state.

“I don’t think it’s going to be just today,” lamented a spokesman for one of the major processors, the Wayne Farms poultry plant. It normally employs 850 people, but on Wednesday the parking lot was empty and the plant was idle.”

Spotted this too. Transient immigrates drop by 70% from 2005 peak.

Immigration from Central America to Mexico Plummets, Mexican Official Says:

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/10/11/immigration-from-central-america-to-us-plummets-mexican-official-says/

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 19:23:24

My family has had nothing but trouble with immigrants ever since we came to this country.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2011-10-12 17:22:26

Economist Nouriel Roubini’s Firm Is For Sale

“According to people who have seen the offering book for the sale, the firm is projected to have revenues of $14 million this year and it will post a loss of roughly $2 million dollars…”

Lol…economics research firm FAIL.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44859944

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 18:09:47

If he manages to successfully unload it on some turkey and cash out some $$$s in the process, then I would not describe it as a FAIL at all… :-)

Time will tell.

Comment by Muggy
2011-10-12 18:21:20

Gentleman’s bet!

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2011-10-12 21:17:19

You’re on! :-)

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:27:40

How does a research firm manage to lose $2m on revenues of $14m? That must take some careful planning! I thought economics research projects only cost a few thousand dollars, so I am wondering what other expenses kicked up total cost to $16m?

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2011-10-12 18:34:24
 
Comment by BlueStar
2011-10-12 18:44:27

Another sleazy politician uses laundered money to brainwash voters.
Ben Nelson hold the record for democrats voting with the Republicans in the Senate. I remember his vote on the Affordable Health Care Act where he killed the public option at the same time he cut a deal to have the other 49 states pickup his state’s Medicaid bills. I hope he looses this election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/13/us/politics/ben-nelsons-campaign-ads-may-break-new-ground.html

Democratic Senator’s Ads May Break New Ground
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: October 12, 2011

WASHINGTON — A new series of political advertisements on behalf of an embattled Nebraska senator could open the door to a flood of similar ads financed by outside groups and even businesses working directly with political candidates — a sharp departure from past practice.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:09:55

From God’s lips to your ears:

Bloomberg
Buffett’s Son Defends Occupy Wall Street to ‘Make Things Happen’
October 13, 2011, 12:22 AM EDT
By Andrew Frye and Alan Bjerga

Oct. 13 (Bloomberg) — Howard Buffett, the Berkshire Hathaway Inc. director and son of Chairman Warren Buffett, said Wall Street protesters were provoked by abuses from corporations amid a widening disparity between rich and poor.

I think it takes that to make things happen sometimes,” Howard Buffett, 56, said of the demonstrations in an interview yesterday in Des Moines, Iowa. Over the past 15 years, “we saw large corporations really screw people.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:37:23

These bailout stories make your brain go numb after a while.

Europe eyes bigger Greek losses for banks

An employee of the Ministry of Labour blows a whisle and holds a black flag during a protest by public sector workers outside the Greek parliament in Athens
October 12, 2011. REUTERS/Yannis Behrakis

By Jan Strupczewski and Harry Papachristou
BRUSSELS/ATHENS | Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:19pm EDT

(Reuters) - Euro zone countries will ask banks to accept losses of up to 50 percent on their holdings of Greek debt, officials said on Wednesday, as part of a grand plan to avert a disorderly default and stem a crisis that threatens the world economy.

Ahead of a make-or-break summit of European leaders on October 23 at which a comprehensive new Franco-German crisis plan is expected to be discussed, four euro zone officials told Reuters that a “haircut” of between 30 and 50 percent for Greece’s private creditors was under consideration.

That is far more than the 21 percent loss they had asked banks, pension funds and other financial institutions to accept in July as part of a second rescue package for Athens. Since then, the Greek economy has sunk deeper into recession, fanning fears of an outright default and forcing euro zone leaders to consider more radical action to stem their crisis.

To restore confidence in the banking system, they are also working on plans to shore up the balance sheets of banks through recapitalizations.

An EU source told Reuters that the European Banking Authority, which is conducting an assessment of bank capital needs, was likely to mark down their holdings of sovereign debt to market value and apply a 9 percent core Tier 1 capital ratio when deciding whether they need more funds.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said on Wednesday that the bloc should take a fully coordinated approach to recapitalizations and only use its rescue fund, the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), as a last resort — a key demand by Europe’s biggest economy Germany.

He also called for a permanent rescue fund to replace the EFSF from the middle of next year instead of in 2013, an idea that German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble also backed.

The German banking association hit back at elements of Barroso’s proposals, saying his idea to ban banks from paying out dividends pending recapitalization would hamper efforts to raise capital.

Greece’s debt mountain is forecast to climb to 357 billion euros this year, or 162 percent of its annual economic output. So far, euro zone governments have failed so far to come up with a convincing plan for how to cope with it.

“We are negotiating in every way to lighten this debt,” Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou told a cabinet meeting on Wednesday.

A euro zone official told Reuters the final level for private sector participation had not been set and it was unclear as yet how banks would react to the new demands.

“A voluntary participation is the target, for now at least, and many feel strongly that we must avoid any risk of a full default,” the official said, requesting anonymity.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:46:11

How does taking a principled stand on behalf of one’s own citizenry earn a politician the title of “Public Enemy No. 1″?

OPINION
OCTOBER 12, 2011, 6:43 P.M. ET

Slovakia Says No to Europe’s Bailouts
The country has made painful reforms and is now asked to pay the bills of countries like Greece, which haven’t.
By MATS PERSSON

Richard Sulik has emerged as Brussels’s public enemy No. 1. As leader of Slovakia’s Freedom and Solidarity party, or SaS, Mr. Sulik has consistently and vocally opposed euro-zone bailouts. SaS parliamentarians’ refusal to back changes to the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) led to the collapse of the Slovak coalition government on Tuesday.

Mr. Sulik’s opposition to paying for what he describes as other people’s mistakes led Germany’s Handelsblatt newspaper this week to label his anti-bailout movement a “central European tea party.” Yesterday Slovak lawmakers reached a deal to pass the EFSF expansion in a fresh vote before the end of the week. But at what cost?

There are strong arguments in favor of approving the changes to the EFSF, especially if it will be used to strengthen Europe’s banks. But consider this: In 2010, Slovakia’s GDP per capita was €11,692 ($16,114), while Greece’s was €19,822. Going into this crisis, average earnings in Slovakia stood at €8,700 per year, while in Greece they were around €23,900. Meanwhile, the average Slovak pension was €250 per month, compared to €830 a month in Greece. You can see why sympathy for Athens is in short supply in Bratislava.

There is another and arguably more compelling reason why Slovaks should question the need to cough up in the name of so-called European “solidarity.” Slovakia has benefited from euro-zone membership and from EU funds. But Slovakia has also paid a price. Over the last two decades, the country has undergone painful structural reform on the path from communism to a market economy, and later to EU and euro-zone membership. By streamlining its tax code, labor market, and social welfare and pension systems, it reduced unemployment, attracted foreign investors and created a base for long-term economic growth.

Richard Sulik, has emerged as public enemy number one in Brussels.

The immediate effects of reform have not always been easy to swallow. Between 1999 and 2001, the liquidation and restructuring of Slovakia’s publicly and privately owned banks cost the economy between 11% and 15% of GDP, leaving the banking sector almost completely in the hands of foreign owners. But Slovakia’s financial system emerged stronger than it was before. And yet, having walked this difficult road, Slovakia is now being asked to provide loan guarantees to bail out countries that failed to enact similar reforms. You can see the potential for moral hazard on a huge scale.

First, banks in several triple-A economies, including Germany, continue to live under the protection of sovereign bailouts and European Central Bank liquidity. They have not been forced to restructure and recapitalize, even though this is an absolutely necessary part of any long-term solution to the crisis.

Second, the sovereign bailouts have transferred private-sector risk to the books of taxpayer-backed institutions. This has created perverse incentives, possibly leading banks to chase profits through higher yields on peripheral sovereign debt and thereby increasing their exposure to the crisis. The toxic mix of moral hazard and political failure has left Europe fighting for survival on two fronts, facing both a systemic banking crisis and an increasingly desperate fiscal crisis.

Are sovereign governments learning these lessons? The Slovak parliament rejected the EFSF amendments on the very same day that the EU and the International Monetary Fund signaled that Greece would receive the next tranche of its original bailout, even though the country has clearly failed to meet its austerity and deficit targets.

Moving forward, it is encouraging that euro-zone leaders are now considering ways to manage a hard Greek default while finally looking at ways to recapitalize euro-zone banks. But as EU leaders look for clever ways to leverage the financial stability facility, possibly quadrupling it in size without increasing the existing loan guarantees—and as the euro zone reluctantly moves towards more fiscal integration—it must keep one vital lesson in mind: Conditionality is king.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 22:51:04

The Wall Street Journal
OPINION
OCTOBER 12, 2011, 5:03 P.M. ET

Wall Street’s Gullible Occupiers

The protesters have been sold a bill of goods. Reckless government policies, not private greed, brought about the housing bubble and resulting financial crisis.

By PETER J. WALLISON

There is no mystery where the Occupy Wall Street movement came from: It is an offspring of the same false narrative about the causes of the financial crisis that exculpated the government and brought us the Dodd-Frank Act. According to this story, the financial crisis and ensuing deep recession was caused by a reckless private sector driven by greed and insufficiently regulated. It is no wonder that people who hear this tale repeated endlessly in the media turn on Wall Street to express their frustration with the current conditions in the economy.

Their anger should be directed at those who developed and supported the federal government’s housing policies that were responsible for the financial crisis.

Beginning in 1992, the government required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to direct a substantial portion of their mortgage financing to borrowers who were at or below the median income in their communities. The original legislative quota was 30%. But the Department of Housing and Urban Development was given authority to adjust it, and through the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations HUD raised the quota to 50% by 2000 and 55% by 2007.

It is certainly possible to find prime borrowers among people with incomes below the median. But when more than half of the mortgages Fannie and Freddie were required to buy were required to have that characteristic, these two government-sponsored enterprises had to significantly reduce their underwriting standards.

Fannie and Freddie were not the only government-backed or government-controlled organizations that were enlisted in this process. The Federal Housing Administration was competing with Fannie and Freddie for the same mortgages. And thanks to rules adopted in 1995 under the Community Reinvestment Act, regulated banks as well as savings and loan associations had to make a certain number of loans to borrowers who were at or below 80% of the median income in the areas they served.

Research by Edward Pinto, a former chief credit officer of Fannie Mae (now a colleague of mine at the American Enterprise Institute) has shown that 27 million loans—half of all mortgages in the U.S.—were subprime or otherwise weak by 2008. That is, the loans were made to borrowers with blemished credit, or were loans with no or low down payments, no documentation, or required only interest payments.

Of these, over 70% were held or guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie or some other government agency or government-regulated institution. Thus it is clear where the demand for these deficient mortgages came from.

The huge government investment in subprime mortgages achieved its purpose. Home ownership in the U.S. increased to 69% from 65% (where it had been for 30 years). But it also led to the biggest housing bubble in American history. This bubble, which lasted from 1997 to 2007, also created a huge private market for mortgage-backed securities (MBS) based on pools of subprime loans.

As housing bubbles grow, rising prices suppress delinquencies and defaults. People who could not meet their mortgage obligations could refinance or sell, because their houses were now worth more.

Accordingly, by the mid-2000s, investors had begun to notice that securities based on subprime mortgages were producing the high yields, but not showing the large number of defaults, that are usually associated with subprime loans. This triggered strong investor demand for these securities, causing the growth of the first significant private market for MBS based on subprime and other risky mortgages.

By 2008, Mr. Pinto has shown, this market consisted of about 7.8 million subprime loans, somewhat less than one-third of the 27 million that were then outstanding. The private financial sector must certainly share some blame for the financial crisis, but it cannot fairly be accused of causing that crisis when only a small minority of subprime and other risky mortgages outstanding in 2008 were the result of that private activity.

When the bubble deflated in 2007, an unprecedented number of weak mortgages went into default, driving down housing prices throughout the U.S. and throwing Fannie and Freddie into insolvency. Seeing these sudden losses, investors fled from the market for privately issued MBS, and mark-to-market accounting required banks and others to write down the value of their mortgage-backed assets to the distress levels in a market that now had few buyers. This raised questions about the solvency and liquidity of the largest financial institutions and began a period of great investor anxiety.

The government’s rescue of Bear Stearns in March 2008 temporarily calmed the market. But it created significant moral hazard: Market participants were led to believe that the government would rescue all large financial institutions. When Lehman Brothers was allowed to fail in September, investors panicked. They withdrew their funds from the institutions that held large amounts of privately issued MBS, causing banks and others—such as investment banks, finance companies and insurers—to hoard cash against the risk of further withdrawals. Their refusal to lend to one another in these conditions froze credit markets, bringing on what we now call the financial crisis.

The narrative that came out of these events—largely propagated by government officials and accepted by a credulous media—was that the private sector’s greed and risk-taking caused the financial crisis and the government’s policies were not responsible. This narrative stimulated the punitive Dodd-Frank Act—fittingly named after Congress’s two key supporters of the government’s destructive housing policies. It also gave us the occupiers of Wall Street.

Mr. Wallison is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He was a member Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission and dissented from the majority’s report.

Comment by CA renter
2011-10-14 04:50:08

Wow. I cannot believe how tenacious they are about spreading this lie.

It’s a fact that the GSEs were **shrinking** their portfolios when the housing bubble was at its most manic stages.

It’s a fact that the private mortgage market was growing as the public mortgage market was shrinking during the bubble.

These lies need to stop already. We know the truth.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 23:16:49

It looks increasingly likely that global stock market bulls were right to anticipate a bodacious euro zone bailout.

Slovakia Deal Revives Hope on Fund to Save Euro
By STEPHEN CASTLE and NICHOLAS KULISH
Published: October 12, 2011

BRUSSELS — The day after Parliament in tiny Slovakia voted to reject the expansion of a European rescue fund, causing the government to fall and threatening efforts to end Europe’s debt crisis, politicians there struck a deal that should permit the expansion of a rescue fund for the euro after all.

The changes to the fund need to be approved in all 17 European Union countries that use the euro. Slovakia, a small, former-Communist country of 5.5 million, is the only holdout.

The fall of the coalition government was the price it paid for tying the fund changes to its own survival in a confidence vote in Parliament. Parties in the departing coalition reached an accord on Wednesday with Robert Fico’s opposition party, Smer, allowing the vote to pass through Parliament in exchange for early elections. “There is an agreement,” said a spokesman for Mr. Fico’s party, Erik Tomas. “Smer agrees to support the financial mechanism and the coalition agrees to elections on March 10.”

For some, the episode has illustrated the contrast between Europe’s slow, cumbersome decision making and the ruthless speed of the financial markets. Ultimately, the effort to stave off the debt crisis was almost hijacked by internal political maneuvering in one of the euro zone’s smallest economies.

Before the agreement was reached with Smer, the European Union’s most senior officials appealed to Slovak politicians to stop their squabbling.

“We call upon all parties in the Slovak Parliament to rise above the positioning of short-term politics, and seize the next occasion to ensure a swift adoption of the new agreement,” said a joint statement from José Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, and Herman Van Rompuy, the president of the European Council. Slovakia’s new vote to approve changes to the rescue fund known as the European Financial Stability Facility is expected Thursday or Friday.

“The agreement makes it possible that either tomorrow night or at the latest Friday morning the fund and the laws tied to it will be approved,” Mr. Fico said, Reuters reported. The changes to the bailout fund not only expand it but also give it new powers to help strengthen Europe’s vulnerable banks. “If we are held hostage to every parochial problem, then our efficiency is severely impaired,” said one European diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the issue.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 23:20:51

Gold rises on Slovakia deal, European optimism
Gold and silver bars are pictured in front of a safe door at the Austrian Gold and Silver Separating Plant ‘Oegussa’ in Vienna August 26, 2011. REUTERS/Lisi Niesner
By Frank Tang and Jan Harvey
NEW YORK/LONDON | Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:42pm EDT

(Reuters) - Gold rose on Wednesday in tandem with riskier assets, as the dollar fell on hopes the euro zone debt crisis will be contained after Slovakian parties agreed to boost the region’s bailout fund.

Wall Street and industrial metals also posted sharp gains after Slovakian lawmakers said they would approve a plan to expand the powers and size of the European EFSF rescue fund. Bullion broke above the 20-day moving average, which inspired technical buying.

The precious metal has risen 2.5 percent in the past three sessions. Optimism about a plan to tackle Europe’s debilitating crisis prompted gold, traditionally a safe haven, to move in sync with equities and commodities.

“Investors are less concerned that what’s going on in Europe will develop into some type of Lehman event,” said Leo Larkin, metals equity analyst at S&P Capital IQ.

“As long as people are confident that gold is not going to be sold off in panic, it can continue to go higher.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 23:23:25

Oct. 13, 2011, 12:01 a.m. EDT
The return of risk
Commentary: The market looks tired
By Kevin Marder

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) — Shares breezed higher for the sixth time in seven tries Wednesday, as participants returned to the risk trade worldwide amid progress on Europe’s fiscal bailout package.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-12 23:35:09

Fraud charges filed against SF bank execs who accepted millions in bailout
By: Ari Burack | 10/11/11 9:30 PM
Examiner Staff Writer
Bank fraud
United Commercial Bank branches spanned three countries
. (Courtesy photo)

San Francisco bank executives cooked their books and lied to auditors just before they accepted a $298 million taxpayer bailout, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.

They now have the distinction of being the first senior executives of a bank that received federal bailout funds to be criminally charged in connection with a scheme to defraud the government and American taxpayers.

The Securities and Exchange Commission charged former United Commercial Bank CEO Thomas Wu and vice presidents Ebrahim Shabudin and Thomas Yu with illegally obscuring their bank’s mounting losses. A separate indictment charged Shabudin and Yu with securities fraud, conspiracy, falsifying corporate books and records, and lying to auditors.

Prosecutors accused them and others of hiding the bank’s true condition starting in September 2008. Two months later, facing growing losses, the bank received $298 million from the Bush administration’s Troubled Asset Relief Program, which arose from the 2008 banking crisis.

In November 2009, United Commercial Bank filed for bankruptcy and became the first recipient of TARP funds to fail.

That failure will cost taxpayers dearly. None of the TARP funds have been repaid, and the indictment predicts that final losses to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. could run $2.5 billion, not including the lost TARP funds.

“Shabudin and Yu are the first senior executives of a TARP bank charged in connection with a scheme to defraud investors, which included the Treasury, and by extension the American taxpayer,” acting TARP Special Inspector General Christy Romero said in a statement.

United Commercial Bank was one of the largest banks serving the Chinese-American community, with branches throughout the U.S., as well as China and Taiwan.

It was the first U.S. bank to acquire a bank in the People’s Republic of China, and Wu was considered a rising star in the banking industry,” the SEC said in a news release. “By 2009, however, Wu found himself at the helm of a bank on the brink of failure.”

Comment by CA renter
2011-10-14 04:51:42

One down…

 
 
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