May 14, 2006

‘Buyers Playing More Hardball’ In The Northeast

A pair of reports provide an update from the northeast. “A majority of people who moved out of Massachusetts last year report they are very satisfied with life in their new state and would not move back, a Boston Globe poll has found. Seventy-three percent of those surveyed said they live in a home that is bigger than their home in Massachusetts was.”

“The top reason people gave for leaving Massachusetts was a better job, followed by the cost of housing, family ties, and the weather. In a separate set of questions, 50 percent of those surveyed said the cost of housing was a ‘major factor,’ and a better job was cited as a ‘major factor’ by 39 percent.”

“‘To me, what’s new about this period is that now housing costs are being factored into people’s migration decisions,’ said said William H. Frey, a demographer who has studied migration patterns throughout the United States. ‘In the past, they would look more or less at the job and what the job paid, but housing costs would not factor as much.’”

And from Connecticut. “The buyer’s market has officially hit Ridgefield. Local Realtors describe the market as ‘normalizing’ and ’softening,’ but no matter how it’s phrased, the fact of the matter is there are now 233 houses on the market. Last May there were 149 houses for sale in town.”

“(Realtor) Laura Fried said she saw the market forces at work now as simple economics, partly stemming from a glut of houses left over from 2005. ‘The way I see it, 2005 was a question mark year for buyers. They heard a lot about bursting bubbles and they sat on the sidelines to see what would happen. ‘The inventory built,’ said Fried. ‘Now there’s a classic economic situation of supply and demand, that creates a downward pressure on prices.’”

“‘The biggest problem is inventory accumulation,’ she said. ‘There are all those houses from 2005 and then the new houses coming on for the spring of 2006.’”

“(Broker) Patrick Fink said he felt some buyers were scared off by media reports of a ‘bubble’ in the Northeast housing market, which he said was an unfounded fear. ‘The bubble is an invention of the media,’ he said.”

“(Realtor) Jack McAuley speculated that one problem with today’s market is that sellers set their prices with too-high expectations. ‘Sellers typically are behind the herd instinct, particularly people who don’t have to move,’ he said. ‘People are too late to the party. If you bought your house in 2003 and sold it in 2005, you’d make money probably. If you bought your house in 2004 and tried to sell it now, you’d probably be underwater.’”

“He said sellers expect the prices to keep rising, and buyers expect to cash in on the ‘buyer’s market,’ and the result is frequently a ’standoff’ over as little as a $10,000 difference.”

“‘You see a lot more expireds right now,’ he said. ‘If they don’t sell it, they take it back off the market. I tell all my sellers that the buyers are who establish the price. What I’m seeing now is there’s too much of a stare-down here. Last year and the year before, buyers felt they had to make concessions. Now buyers are playing more hardball. Deals are falling apart. There will definitely be an adjustment here.’”

“Ron Van Winkle, a West Hartford economist, said there is some concern that the upper-end market in Greater Hartford has been overbuilt in the past few years as more builders entered the marketplace to take advantage of the high demand, and higher profits, during the peak of the housing boom.”

“‘We saw a lot of new builders trying to enter that market,’ Van Winkle said. ‘And because there are fewer buyers at that level, only a few decisions by a few builders can cause the market to go out of balance very quickly.’”

“Tom Francoline, a high-end builder in Avon is so confident in the market that he is building four ’speculative’ houses in the area, meaning he’s building the houses even though there is no buyer lined up. ‘Some people only want new construction, and they don’t have time to spend eight months custom-building,’ he said. ‘You don’t want to lose that segment of the market, so it’s important for us to have finished houses available.’”

“But custom builder Gilles Michaud said his Avon company is cautious about the market and is only building houses where a buyer has signed a contract. ‘People have more of a choice, and that’s happened very quickly,’ he said of the number of million-dollar homes on the market. At the end of April, more than 175 new and existing homes priced at $1 million or more were listed for sale.”

“‘There seems to be an imbalance, which has created an uncertain future,’ he said.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2006-05-14 11:25:53

Thanks to the readers who sent in or posted these links.

 
Comment by David
2006-05-14 11:33:13

Or it could read ‘Buyers play lowball in Northeast’. Keep those very lowball offers coming.

David
http://bubblemeter.blogspot.com

Comment by Ben Jones
2006-05-14 11:34:29

I agree. In a way these folks are doing everyone a service.

 
 
Comment by txchick57
2006-05-14 11:42:32

Tom Francoline doesn’t sound too bright. Typical of a spec builder.

 
Comment by giantaxe
2006-05-14 11:47:07

“‘The bubble is an invention of the media,’ he said”

Suuuure… and lack of affordability in comparison to wages/rents has absolutely nothing to do with it. It’s all the media’s fault!

Comment by looking4mee
2006-05-14 12:03:24

OT,
but just currious on what would be a good currency to purchase and hold? I trust someone on here would know more than I about the subject.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/05/business/main1591592.shtml

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_whi_060514__22shock_therapy_22_and_.htm

Comment by sellnrun
2006-05-14 13:10:07

There is a USD currency hedge fund ticker MERKX which invests in foreign currencies whose governments embrace sound fiscal policy.

The loonie is at a high not seen since 1978, so probably not a bad bet.

There is also an ETF for the Euro, which serves as a USD hedge.

Additionally, precious metals (most notably gold) historically serve as a hedge against the falling dollar. Gold has actually been shown to have an inverse relationship to the dollar: the dollar falls, gold rises; and vice-versa.

Other means of hedging a falling dollar is to invest in equities or bonds (not as good given the apparent inflationary trends globally) which earn in foreign currency and repatriate to a lower value dollar.

Good luck!

Comment by M
2006-05-14 14:55:15

You should also look into RYWDX….It’s a great way to bet against USD….The only downside is the high expense ratio (1.7%)

If USDIX fell by 5%, the objective of this fund would be for RYWDX to go up 10%.

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Comment by looking4mee
2006-05-14 17:08:06

I like the Merk Hard Currency ticker you provided, and the price is rather reasonable. Thanks!

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Comment by sellnrun
2006-05-14 19:39:20

My only reservation was the 12B-1 fee associated. Check it out…

 
 
 
 
Comment by looking4mee
2006-05-14 12:06:12

OT,
Just currious what currency others on here would recomend holding since the usd is on its way down? Is the loonie a safe bet?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/05/business/main1591592.shtml

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_whi_060514__22shock_therapy_22_and_.htm

 
Comment by Plantsalot
2006-05-14 13:12:58

‘The bubble is an invention of the media,’ he said.”

That is the last straw. We really need some people without grotesque conflicts of interest being interviewed about housing. I suspect Warren Buffett would do…Who are these media elites who sit around all day and fabricate things that are like nationwide mortgage to rent ratios and sales statistics. This guy needs to lay off the Rush Limbaugh and realize the party’s over. Why do people even listen to such reprobates?

Comment by The_lingus
2006-05-14 15:43:09

Comment by Plantsalot
2006-05-14 13:12:58
This guy needs to lay off the Rush Limbaugh and realize the party’s over. Why do people even listen to such reprobates?
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Worshipping at the altar of the likes of Limbaugh and Sean Handjobity has been a national pastime for 6 years now. What a sick crowd the worshippers are.

 
 
 
Comment by ric
2006-05-14 12:08:49

“‘To me, what’s new about this period is that now housing costs are being factored into people’s migration decisions,’ said said William H. Frey, a demographer who has studied migration patterns throughout the United States. ‘In the past, they would look more or less at the job and what the job paid, but housing costs would not factor as much.’”

What is this guy, 22? Out-migration from high house cost areas has always been driven by prices. People move to high cost areas when the strength of job opportunities outweigh the costs. People move from high cost areas when the costs outweigh the job opportunities. I move out of the Boston area in 1994, and it was based almost exclusively on housing cost. I took a big paycut but came out well ahead, all things considered. Maybe it is more pronounced now, but it has always been the same.

 
Comment by The_lingus
2006-05-14 12:11:58

“‘The bubble is an invention of the media,’ he said.”

Kind of like the staggering explosion is prices is an invention too?

Comment by optioned unarmed
2006-05-14 14:19:26

Also, there is no such thing as houses.

Comment by LaLawyer
2006-05-14 14:24:17

only “HOMES” LOL.

Comment by The_lingus
2006-05-14 15:40:35

Comment by LaLawyer
2006-05-14 14:24:17
only “HOMES” LOL.
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grrrrrrrrrrrrr……. ;)

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2006-05-14 14:40:53

The housing boom of the late 70’s in California started with the price of lumber going up and than it started to feed on itself . That boom wasn’t investor driven but rather fear driven , than the greed factor started sitting in . The interest rates skyrocketed in late 70’s early 80’s ,(14 to 17 % at some point ), which brought the whole madness to a stop . The original lumber shortage and increase in price started that boom . Pent up demand along with low interest rates started this current housing boom .

 
 
 
Comment by dennis
2006-05-14 12:23:56

“(Broker) Patrick Fink said he felt some buyers were scared off by media reports of a ‘bubble’ in the Northeast housing market, which he said was an unfounded fear. ‘The bubble is an invention of the media,’ he said.”

Booooy! What planet did this guy come from….. Since the media is always slow to report this kind of information it cannot be the media!!!! Get some education , preferably in economics before you continue your profession or you may be in the poor house.

 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2006-05-14 13:17:36

Soon, Mr. Francoline will be owning 4 white elephants that will become a place for some of the soon to be homeless folks to squat in. Hope he has fun.

Comment by Ted
2006-05-14 15:18:37

But Mr. Francoline’s four White Elephants are worth $1,000,000 each. How do I know? He traded them for eight Pink Poodles worth $500,000 each.

 
 
Comment by waaahoo
2006-05-14 13:29:11

OT but eye opening.

Special loans for realtors who need cash.

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006605140347

If you are a realtor and didn’t put anything away for a rainy day or hedge yourself somehow you absolutely deserve what you are getting. I mean really, what has it been 6 months and these guys are already hurting?

Comment by Betamax
2006-05-14 13:35:19

Great, they can take on more debt…how and when are they going to pay back such loans? They’re just digging the hole deeper.

 
Comment by seattle price drop
2006-05-14 18:30:41

Interesting way for them to keep their debts to themselves though and not drag the rest of us down with them.

I remember back in the 80’s when realtors drove regular old cars. They really toppped it out during this last boom. A lot of them are probably in a big ol’ bit of debt.

 
 
Comment by flat
2006-05-15 05:09:15

CT got hit the hardest in 90’s and recovered the lateest
18 of 40 hoods around hartford didn’t get to par untill 2002 =wow

 
Comment by NH_renter
2006-05-15 07:11:23

This survey of Massachusetts expats is great.
“8 percent said they missed Boston”
Maybe Boston isn’t really that nice a city?

“A majority — 69 percent — said they found Bay State residents either ”much less courteous” or ‘’somewhat less courteous” than people in their new state.”
No surprise there!

 
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