October 21, 2011

A Nation Defined By Irrational Exuberance

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Tens of thousands of Stocktonians owe more on their homes than their homes are worth. Stockton got $16.2 million in Neighborhood Stabilization money. It did not help one person keep a home. Instead, it bought the city 51 vacant homes via foreclosures. Ronald T. Pate bought a home on Denver Avenue for $450,000 in 2005. In 2007, facing balloon payments that would adjust his mortgage sharply upward, he attempted to refinance. His bank said no. The Pates found themselves paying 8.5 percent interest: $2,575 a month. Unable to continue, they are short-selling their home. The ordeal has stressed their marriage and contributed to making them physically ill, Pate said. ‘It took a toll on me and my wife,’ he said.”

“The recession is primarily a housing market collapse. Fixing that market is, or should have been, Step 1 in spurring recovery. Not just in Stockton, but all California. ‘It’s fundamental to our recovery,’ Mayor Ann Johnston said of distressed homeowner assistance from Uncle Sam. Instead, ‘I feel totally abandoned and neglected and the poor stepchild in this nation, honestly,’ she said.”

“In Charlotte, N.C., a foreclosed McMansion is going for half of its 2007 value. Lee Brown, a Realtor in the area, says Charlotte has a community of ’starter castles’ that were built at the height of the housing boom. They have ‘really ornate exteriors’ with French, German and Swiss influence ‘all tossed into the same house,’ she says.”

“During the boom, she says, many people moved to Charlotte for high-paying jobs in the banking industry, but lost them when banks shut down after the crash. One of the foreclosure properties sold for $1.27 million in 2007; Brown expects it to now sell for about $650,000.”

“‘You’re talking a beautiful home, and you can see it’s got the hardwood floors, and it’s got the fancy kitchen,’ she says. ‘And you’re going to get two chandeliers in the dining room — and who needs two chandeliers in the dining room? But you know, hey, there’s something for everybody.’”

“The United States has a confidence problem: a nation long defined by irrational exuberance has turned gloomy about tomorrow. Consumers are holding back, businesses are suffering and the economy is barely growing. A growing number of economists argue that the collapse of housing prices, a defining feature of this downturn, is also a critical and under-appreciated impediment to recovery. Americans have lost a vast amount of wealth, and they have lost faith in housing as an investment. They lack money, and they lack the confidence that they will have more money tomorrow.”

“‘People don’t expect their home to regain value, and that’s really led to a change in consumer attitudes about the economy that we’ve just never seen before,’ said Richard Curtin, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan.”

“Many say they believe that the bust has permanently changed their financial trajectory. ‘I don’t know that it’s going to get better. We just have to get used to it,’ said Sherry DeWeese, whose home in Ocoee, a northwestern suburb of Orlando, is worth less than she paid for it 13 years ago — and about a third of its value at the peak of the market. ‘It was nothing to buy whatever we wanted. Now we just think about what we really need.’”

“Why are people so enthused about owning real estate? For one thing, most individuals have an innate or intuitive feeling that home ownership is a good, safe investment that offers attractive financial returns. Most homeowners don’t have the slightest idea what the annual return is. The median price of a single-family home in California rose from $99,550 in 1980 to $296,820 in 2010, an annual increase of just 3.6 percent. Even if sold at a peak price in 2007, the return would have been 6.6 percent annually. If the $20,000 down payment had been invested in 1980 in a diversified portfolio of stocks returning 10 percent annually, the stock portfolio would be worth $349,000 in 2010 – $52,000 more than the house.”

“At the macro level, real estate can create havoc for an economy as experienced by Spain in the 1970s; Norway in the 1980s; Sweden, Finland and Japan in the 1990s; and Ireland, the U.S. and a multitude of other countries in the 2000s. This is because real estate is subject to speculative bubbles whereby people buy homes not based upon fundamentals such as population growth, rents, interest rates and economic conditions, but simply because prices have gone up and are expected to continue going up. Valuation factors sometimes don’t count as much as collective investor euphoria. It’s as if the laws of supply and demand are reversed. As prices go up, demand should go down. In a housing bubble, as prices go up, so does demand.”

“In the U.S. today, 25 percent of the homes have less value than owed on the mortgages. As in Japan, where housing prices fell by 75 percent in the 1990s, housing will be a drag on the U.S. economy for at least another five years, and that is probably being optimistic.”

“Who is to blame for the housing bubble and subsequent mess in the U.S? Almost everyone – the U.S. government, mortgage lenders, investors, home speculators, ratings agencies, the Federal Reserve, regulators, financial innovation and a host of others. There is enough blame for everyone involved. It has created a mess for the U.S. economy with no easy solution.”

“Homeowners being pushed into the foreclosure pipeline are typically eight months behind on their mortgage payments and owe a median of a little less than $20,000, DataQuick reported. It currently takes about 10 months for the foreclosure process to be completed. Most of the loans going into default continue to originate from the 2005-07 period, when underwriting standards were at their weakest, according to DataQuick.

“CSU Channel Islands economist Sung Won Sohn thinks there are more foreclosures to come. ‘So many houses are ‘underwater,’ he said. ‘In California alone, there are probably about 2.5 million homes underwater, where the loans are higher than the value of the house. ‘Given the lackluster employment outlook, the indications are that we will see more of it, not less.’”

“Pressure from government officials and problems with paperwork held banks back from a lot of foreclosure activity and now they are moving forward again, Sohn said, adding that the drawn-out process is bad. ‘These are homes that would be foreclosed on sooner or later, and it’s better for banks and for consumers to get it done quickly,’ he said.”

“The idea that big banks damage the broader economy has considerable resonance on the intellectual right. The mainstream political right, however, has been reluctant to take on the issue. This changed on Wednesday, with a very clear statement by Jon Huntsman in The Wall Street Journal on regulatory capture and its consequences. Before the 2008 financial crisis, he wrote, ‘the largest banks were pushing hard to take more risk at taxpayers’ expense.’”

“And now, he added: Eugene Fama, father of the efficient markets view of finance, had it exactly right when he said, in the same interview that ‘too big to fail’ ‘is not capitalism; capitalism says - you perform poorly, you fail.’ ‘Too big to fail’ is not a market-based concept; it’s a government subsidy scheme - of the most inefficient and dangerous kind.”

“It’s not enough just to wish that big banks could fail or to promise not to support them next time. This is not a credible commitment - and the ‘resolution authority’ created under the Dodd-Frank regulatory legislation is a paper tiger with regard to winding down the biggest banks. If the choice is global economic calamity or unsavory bailout, which would you - let alone any Republican president - choose?”

“Mr. Huntsman has joined the dots. There are various ways to directly address and remove the implicit subsidies that the largest banks receive. Bloated size and excessive leverage can be effectively taxed. As he said: ‘The euro zone is on the verge of calamity in large part because its members built very large banks with huge implicit subsidies, and this facilitated an irresponsible accumulation of public sector debt. During the Dodd-Frank debate last year, we heard repeatedly from people - including senators on both sides of the aisle - who believed that reducing the size of our largest banks would somehow put the rest of our private sector at a disadvantage.’”

“Who now would like to emulate in any way the disaster that the Europeans have brought upon themselves? Mr. Romney, please explain how you would prevent our largest banks from becoming ever larger and taking on more risk, and, as they did, continuing the reckless buildup of debt throughout the global economy.”

“As a card-carrying member of the leftist media near-elite — alas, I’m not nearly rich or famous enough to be regarded as a 100% elitist — it pains me to see my brethren sinking like the sun in the west. But we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We’ve been out of touch with what people on the streets are thinking. The problem is twofold. We didn’t care to listen to them, and by the time we heard them we had missed the opportunity to break the story and inform the public. We were followers, not leaders.”

“As a result of their biases, reporters didn’t understand that the tea party was a compelling story because the organization’s members represented a large number of disenfranchised voters. You’d think they might have learned their lesson by the time the Occupy Wall Street movement began to gain traction over the past few weeks. I’m as guilty of negligence as anyone. I and so many media stalwarts work in Manhattan, for heaven’s sake. We have no excuse. It’s not as if all this discontent had been brewing in some outpost like St. Louis before overflowing on national television.”

“Once again, we shrugged off the protestors as members of the fringe, not as angry Americans who had something substantial to say about the depressing state of the union. Hopefully, we in the media elite — and yes, the near-elite, like me — can get it together the next time.”

“A new audit of the Federal Reserve released today detailed widespread conflicts of interest involving directors of its regional banks. ‘The most powerful entity in the United States is riddled with conflicts of interest,’ Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said after reviewing the Government Accountability Office report. The study required by a Sanders Amendment to last year’s Wall Street reform law examined Fed practices never before subjected to such independent, expert scrutiny.”

“The GAO detailed instance after instance of top executives of corporations and financial institutions using their influence as Federal Reserve directors to financially benefit their firms, and, in at least one instance, themselves. ‘Clearly it is unacceptable for so few people to wield so much unchecked power,’ Sanders said. ‘Not only do they run the banks, they run the institutions that regulate the banks.’”

“The report noted that there are no restrictions in Fed rules on directors communicating concerns about their respective banks to the staff of the Federal Reserve. It also said many directors own stock or work directly for banks that are supervised and regulated by the Federal Reserve. The rules, which the Fed has kept secret, let directors tied to banks participate in decisions involving how much interest to charge financial institutions and how much credit to provide healthy banks and institutions in ‘hazardous’ condition. Even when situations arise that run afoul of Fed’s conflict rules and waivers are granted, the GAO said the waivers are kept hidden from the public.”

“In 2008, the New York Fed approved an application from Goldman Sachs to become a bank holding company giving it access to cheap Fed loans. During the same period, Stephen Friedman, chairman of the New York Fed, sat on the Goldman Sachs board of directors and owned Goldman stock, something the Fed’s rules prohibited. He received a waiver in late 2008 that was not made public. After Friedman received the waiver, he continued to purchase stock in Goldman from November 2008 through January of 2009 unbeknownst to the Fed, according to the GAO.”

“Jamie Dimon: The CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York at the same time that his bank received emergency loans from the Fed and was used by the Fed as a clearing bank for the Fed’s emergency lending programs. In 2008, the Fed provided JP Morgan Chase with $29 billion in financing to acquire Bear Stearns.At the time, Dimon persuaded the Fed to provide JP Morgan Chase with an 18-month exemption from risk-based leverage and capital requirements. He also convinced the Fed to take risky mortgage-related assets off of Bear Stearns balance sheet before JP Morgan Chase acquired this troubled investment bank.”

“Sanders said he will work with leading economists to develop legislation to restructure the Fed and bar the banking industry from picking Fed directors. ‘This is exactly the kind of outrageous behavior by the big banks and Wall Street that is infuriating so many Americans,’ Sanders said.”




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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:32:18

“…a nation long defined by irrational exuberance has turned gloomy about tomorrow.”

Stated as though irrational exuberance is a desirable state of mind…

 
Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-21 06:35:04

A growing number of economists argue that the collapse of housing prices, a defining feature of this downturn, is also a critical and under-appreciated impediment to recovery.

Its never about jobs and wages, is it? It’s simply because low wage Americans can’t use their houses as ATMs anymore and now have to live within the means of their Lucky Ducky wages.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:38:36

At least irrational exuberance has yet to abandon the great minds of economics.

 
Comment by combotechie
2011-10-21 06:39:38

“It’s never about jobs and wages, is it?”

The housing boom acted to create jobs and wages that replaced the jobs and wages that were shipped overseas. Now that the housing boom has turned into a bust there are no jobs and wages left to fill in the gap.

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-21 09:07:25

I tend to think they are being optimistic if they think it will only be a “drag” on the economy for 5 years.

How long has it been for Japan? 20 years?

Comment by scdave
2011-10-21 09:20:21

Exactly Steve…Why is the mind set in our country that “it can’t happen to us” ?? Is is arrogance or Naïveté ?

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Comment by Ben
2011-10-22 13:58:43

Because our country has 1000x the natural resources… 1000x stronger military.. 1000x more POWER.. We aren’t Japan… We could wipe out Japan and take all their money if we got really desperate…

Usually America tries to be “nice”.. but if our citizens start suffering.. We might not play “nice” anymore and start conquering other countries for their wealth… It’s happened in history…

 
 
 
 
Comment by Tom Aikins
2011-10-21 20:43:46

The practice of taking money out of a house to purchase non-assets or assets that depreciate is a fundamental error and is probably the major cause of the monumental problems that this country will be facing for years to come.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:35:06

“Many say they believe that the bust has permanently changed their financial trajectory. ‘I don’t know that it’s going to get better. We just have to get used to it,’…”

My immediate neighbor at work uttered nearly the same words to me about a month ago, the last time we talked about efforts to sell their upscale family home into a down market.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-21 06:38:18

“If”, such a simple innocuous combination of x2 letters.

“If the $20,000 down payment had been invested in 1980 in a diversified portfolio of stocks returning 10 percent annually, the stock portfolio would be worth $349,000 in 2010 – $52,000 more than the house.”

In 1978, Bill Scargle bought his first stock in Berkshire Hathaway, the conglomerate built by Warren E. Buffett, at $175 a share.

$20,000 / $175.00 = 114.285

114 x $115,000 (apprx) = $13,110,000.00 [$13 Million, $110,000 Thousand US Dollars]

OK kids, the eCONohmyical “coulda/shoulda/darnit!” lesson of the day is over, back to your classrooms… ;-)

Comment by X-GSfixr
2011-10-21 08:00:08

“….stocks returning 10% annually…..”

Sure. 10% annually. They might as well have said “Beenie Babies”

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:41:53

“This changed on Wednesday, with a very clear statement by Jon Huntsman in The Wall Street Journal on regulatory capture and its consequences. Before the 2008 financial crisis, he wrote, ‘the largest banks were pushing hard to take more risk at taxpayers’ expense.’”

“And now, he added: Eugene Fama, father of the efficient markets view of finance, had it exactly right when he said, in the same interview that ‘too big to fail’ ‘is not capitalism; capitalism says - you perform poorly, you fail.’ ‘Too big to fail’ is not a market-based concept; it’s a government subsidy scheme - of the most inefficient and dangerous kind.”

I’m thinking on the basis of this bit of insight, I could vote for Huntsman, but won’t ever have the chance to do so. Coming out against too-big-to-fail is the kiss of death for a politician hoping to get the Wall Street support needed to finance a run for the WH.

Comment by 2banana
2011-10-21 07:40:00

‘Too big to fail’ is not a market-based concept; it’s a government subsidy scheme - of the most inefficient and dangerous kind.”

It is actually the text book definition of fascism…

From wikipedia dot org/wiki/Fascism

In economics, fascists oppose economic liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being class-based movements.[20] Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity.[21] Fascism advocates a state-directed, regulated economy that is dedicated to the nation that supports the use and primacy of regulated private property and private enterprise contingent upon service to the nation or state; the use of state enterprise where private enterprise is failing or is inefficient; pursues autarky; and is hostile to: finance capitalism, plutocracy, the “power of money”, and internationalist economics.[3]

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-21 08:59:33

Fascism advocates a state-directed, regulated economy that is dedicated to the nation that supports the use and primacy of regulated private property and private enterprise contingent upon service to the nation or state; the use of state enterprise where private enterprise is failing or is inefficient;

Keep ‘em coming $lipperybanana, keeps ‘em coming… :-)

(Tell that to some American citizen folks who owned property around the MLB Texas Rangers $tadium:)

(Andrew G. Clem / Clem’s baseball blog)
Editorial comment:

I try to steer clear of political controversy on these baseball pages, but I simply cannot ignore the unsavory financial arrangements behind this brick extravaganza. It all started back in April 1989, when George W. Bush, led a consortium of investors who bought the Texas Rangers franchise for $89 million. (This, of course, was three months after his father was inaugurated president.) Even though he only held a two percent share, which he raised by borrowing $500,000, Bush Junior became the “managing general partner” whose main duty was to promote public financing for a new stadium. His effort came to fruition in January 1991, when Arlington voters approved a $135 million bond issue for a new ballpark. (Most of the rest of the $191 million total stadium cost came from sales of luxury suite licenses to businesses.) Three months later Texas Governor Ann Richards (a Democrat and arch-enemy of the Bush family) signed a bill creating a special stadium authority, which quickly used eminent domain provisions to seize the desired tract of land on the other side of Johnson Creek, the rationale being that a “Riverwalk” lined with cute shops was supposed to be developed next to the stadium. (It never happened.) The owners of that land filed suit, charging unjust compensation, and eventually won a $40 million settlement. In December 1994 Bush stepped down as managing general partner just prior to being inaugurated governor of Texas, but retained his equity stake in the team. In June 1998 the Rangers were purchased by Tom Hicks for $250 million, the second-highest sum ever paid for a Major League Baseball team. This transaction triggered the contingent 10 percent escalator bonus on top of his two percent equity share, so that Bush received a total of $14.9 million in proceeds for his $606,000 total investment. Not a bad rate of return! Though everything was done above board and within the law, the whole affair does reek of “stadium socialism” or “crony capitalism,” as you prefer. It seems all but certain that one of the main effects of the public stadium subsidy was to encourage the team’s owners to overspend in the acquisition of new talent, thus perpetuating an inflationary cycle that ends up boosting ticket prices out of the range of average fans. All this should serve as a cautionary tale for other cities. Washington-area residents are (indirectly, via business taxes) helping to pay for the Washington Nationals’ $600-million new baseball stadium, under the terms imposed by MLB officials in exchange for relocating the Montreal Expos franchise to Washington in 2005.

For further information, see the chronology compiled by Tom Farrey at ESPN.com. For some opinionated perspectives, see the articles by Michael O’Keeffe and T.J. Quinn in the New York Daily News, Jacci Howard Bear in Austin About, Joseph Kay on the World Socialist Web site, and of course, Field of Schemes. Also, see a piece by Matthew Wall written during the heat of the 2000 campaign.

The questionable financial origins of this ballpark became more sordid in March 2007 when the Rangers terminated the naming-rights contract with Ameriquest. Soon thereafter, this subprime mortgage lender sold its remain assets and shut down operations, playing a leading role in the global financial crisis that broke out in late 2007. As the 2008 baseball season ended, Wall Street teetered on the brink of disaster.

In May 2004 the Rangers and Ameriquest Mortgage Company announced a 30-year, $75 million agreement under which the Ballpark in Arlington was renamed “Ameriquest Field in Arlington.” This happened to coincide with the Rangers’ resurgence, vying with Anaheim for top spot in the AL West. The deal later went sour, however, hence the current name “Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.” (See editorial comment below.)

As a side-effect of the crisis on Wall Street, Tom Hicks, the owner of the Rangers went into bankruptcy protection in 2009, and received an emergency loan from Major League Baseball. In August 2010, the franchise was sold to a partnership led by attorney Chuck Greenberg, with former pitching star Nolan Ryan as one of the investors. Coincidentally, the Rangers made it to the postseason for the first time since 1999, and just earned their first-ever trip to the World Series, beating the Yankees 4-2 in the ALCS.

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-21 09:13:58

There is still no “river walk” etc by the stadium.

That plan was dusted off and presented to the voters when the Cowboy Stadium project was proposed next door to the Ball Park.

There is still no “river walk” etc by the stadium.

By the way, in addition to condemning the land, the city of Arlington also stole the mineral rights and *gave* them to Kerry Jones. He sold the rights (gas wells) for millions.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2011-10-21 09:29:42

By the way, in addition to condemning the land, the city of Arlington also stole the mineral rights and *gave* them to Kerry Jones. He sold the rights (gas wells) for millions.

(Hwy reaches in the “bad/worse/ugly” jar, randomly pulls out a slip a paper):

“TrueDeceiver’$™”

What a coincidence! ;-)

 
 
Comment by Steve J
2011-10-21 09:19:11

For a laugh check out:

http://chelseaparklife.com/

These are condos originally priced from $300k - $500k next to the Ball Park. They planned 90, but only built about 45. They stopped building 3 years ago and haven’t even sold the ones the built so far!

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Comment by ProperBostonian
2011-10-21 14:45:14

“The Chelsea Park community is a new European-style collection of brownstone townhomes…in Texas…

Alive with culture, our townhome community is also within walking distance to Arlington’s new Cowboys Stadium.”

You’re right, that is a laugh.

 
 
 
 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2011-10-21 07:44:50

Huntsman was an OK guv. Hard to gin up much enthusiasm about him though. What did he accomplish as Obama’s amabassador to China, arguably the most crucial nation-nation relationship we now have, when he was better prepared for the job than most? No one ever asks.

As far as the fiscal sanity talk, I’m certain at this point that it’s too little, too late. A couple candididates (or pseudo-candidates) have given it lip service from time to time but that’s it. The Tea Party totally punted on making this an issue.

So it’s full speed ahead with the financial insanity for both parties until we finally crash hard, in 2-5 year’s time now, is my guess.

Comment by Tom Aikins
2011-10-21 20:50:03

Do you think that’s what’s going to happen? Hard crash in a few years? I do too, unfortunately. I just don’t see any way around it. Millions of jobs are gone forever and the ones that exist don’t pay enough to survive. Retail, restaurant and basic health care industry jobs are not the kind that support a thriving middle class.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2011-10-21 09:00:29

I could vote for Huntsman ??

I would consider it also…

 
Comment by Montana
2011-10-21 10:34:28

I wish he’d run with that issue. I’d vote for him..it’s probably too late now.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:44:51

“Sanders said he will work with leading economists to develop legislation to restructure the Fed and bar the banking industry from picking Fed directors. ‘This is exactly the kind of outrageous behavior by the big banks and Wall Street that is infuriating so many Americans,’ Sanders said.”

Bernie Sanders is a great unsung hero of the American people. He is one of the few national leaders who keeps my hope alive for the future of this country.

Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-21 07:35:08

Be advised that the hidden agenda here is to strip monetary authority from the regional presidents, who have been more hawkish and opposed to easy money.

Not to say the “conflict of interest” issue isn’t real. But it isn’t the real agenda.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-10-21 08:10:20

‘the hidden agenda here is to strip monetary authority from the regional presidents, who have been more hawkish and opposed to easy money’

Hidden by Mr Sanders? If that’s the case, let’s get it out into the open and debate it. This is part of the problem with the central bank; we don’t really know what the heck is going on.

Anyway, ‘more hawkish’ doesn’t seem to have much meaning when the Federal Reserve can, for example, take it upon itself to loan $12 trillion in one period. Take a minute and ponder just how much money that really is! How can it be tolerated that any conflict of interest is present in such an organization?

Comment by scdave
2011-10-21 08:51:34

One of the best Friday “desk clearing” post I have ever read Ben…I am sending a copy off to a number of friends… Thanks for all your hard work keeping this thing going and bringing the information to the blog…

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Comment by ProperBostonian
2011-10-21 14:46:49

Yes Ben, a really good post.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 06:46:22

“Mr. Romney, please explain how you would prevent our largest banks from becoming ever larger and taking on more risk, and, as they did, continuing the reckless buildup of debt throughout the global economy.”

Let me check with my Wall Street donors and get back to you on that one…

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-21 07:24:09

“The recession is primarily a housing market collapse. Fixing that market is, or should have been, Step 1 in spurring recovery. Not just in Stockton, but all California. ‘It’s fundamental to our recovery,’ Mayor Ann Johnston said of distressed homeowner assistance from Uncle Sam. Instead, ‘I feel totally abandoned and neglected and the poor stepchild in this nation, honestly,’ she said.”

No, no no - NO!!!!

The recession is primarily a housing market FRAUD recession and a country (people, cities, states and federal) living way beyond their means through massive debt…

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2011-10-21 08:30:03

The recession is primarily a housing market FRAUD recession and a country (people, cities, states and federal) living way beyond their means through massive debt… cutting the rich’s and corporation’s taxes.

It’s a revenue problem as well as a spending problem. It’s not just a spending problem, we don’t have enough revenue. If we had more revenue we’d not have as much of a spending problem. The spending problem is made worse by not enough revenue. The more revenue we have the less spending problem we have. You’re getting sleepy……very sleepy….

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-10-21 08:38:08

It scares me when I see eye to eye with your posts. :-)

 
Comment by Montana
2011-10-21 10:23:50

Any pol who goes off on that tangent loses my vote.

 
Comment by snake charmer
2011-10-21 15:09:38

The abandoned neglected poor stepchild in this country is the person who saved money and now gets 0.2% interest so that we can keep house prices beyond what economic fundamentals would support.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-21 07:26:20

“In Charlotte, N.C., a foreclosed McMansion is going for half of its 2007 value. Lee Brown, a Realtor in the area, says Charlotte has a community of ’starter castles’ that were built at the height of the housing boom. They have ‘really ornate exteriors’ with French, German and Swiss influence ‘all tossed into the same house,’ she says.”

A REAL german house is small, built of concrete and tile roof (to last 200 years) and very energy efficient…

I do not think I have ever seen a german house with a cathedral ceiling…

Comment by A.J.
2011-10-21 08:20:42

I think they mean actual German castles not regular people houses. Maybe they should have put a moat and a drawbridge around the house too.

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-21 09:29:42

I’ve seen some mcmansions with turrets like from a castle.

 
Comment by ProperBostonian
2011-10-21 14:49:27

And for that final touch of elegance–fill it with plastic alligators.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-21 07:29:13

“In the U.S. today, 25 percent of the homes have less value than owed on the mortgages. As in Japan, where housing prices fell by 75 percent in the 1990s, housing will be a drag on the U.S. economy for at least another five years, and that is probably being optimistic.”

Politicians, bankers, realtors and citizens should read the statement above real slow and let it sink in.

Comment by OCsandrenter
2011-10-22 14:48:43

“25 percent of the homes have less value than owed on the mortgages.”

” …read the statement above real slow and let it sink in.”

Good point 2banana;

it gets even better imagining what the % of homes are w/mortgages that have CLTV >80%-100% therefore unable to qualify for traditional cash out re-fi. Add that (I’m guessing 15%-25%) to the 25% underwater and that spells DEFLATION japanese style…hopefully not as long, but long enuf to expose the naked emperors. 15-20 million houses in the shadow inventory pipeline over the next decade(s).

 
 
Comment by WLange
2011-10-21 07:33:35

Have you heard about this?
http://tinyurl.com/68p8ppe
Bi-partisan bill: $500K investment gets foreigners a USA visa.

Comment by josemanolo
2011-10-22 12:01:49

guess what. EB-5 Visa had that privilege for a long time already.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-10-21 07:33:46

“The United States has a confidence problem.”

It has a capacity problem.

When feeling irrational exuberance, Amercian consumers, led along my American advertizers, spend, spend, spend.

When feeling depressed, led along by those same advertizers, they resort to “retail therapy” to feel better. After all, if the future is gone anyway, why not live it up while you can? One last binge before the diet or detox.

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-10-21 07:35:38

“In 2008, the New York Fed approved an application from Goldman Sachs to become a bank holding company giving it access to cheap Fed loans. During the same period, Stephen Friedman, chairman of the New York Fed, sat on the Goldman Sachs board of directors and owned Goldman stock, something the Fed’s rules prohibited. He received a waiver in late 2008 that was not made public. After Friedman received the waiver, he continued to purchase stock in Goldman from November 2008 through January of 2009 unbeknownst to the Fed, according to the GAO.”

WHY IS HE NOT IN JAIL?

“Sanders said he will work with leading economists to develop legislation to restructure the Fed and bar the banking industry from picking Fed directors. ‘This is exactly the kind of outrageous behavior by the big banks and Wall Street that is infuriating so many Americans,’ Sanders said.”

Big Freakin Deal. Throw bank CEOs in jail NOW for breaking laws ALREADY on the books. Fraud? Sarbanes-Oxley? SEC Violations? Etc.

Comment by polly
2011-10-21 09:22:19

You know what a waiver is, right?

If you have a waiver, then you didn’t break the rule.

Now, who the f— decided that waivers should be allowed? Ever.

Comment by Steve J
2011-10-21 09:43:38

In the Middle Ages the Catholic Church sold indulgences.

Nothing much has changed in 1,000 years.

Comment by DennisN
2011-10-21 12:26:03

Those indulgences were why Martin Luther nailed some 95 feces up on the Wittenberg church door. Must have really stunk the place up.

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-10-21 12:55:11

An indulgence is a “Get out of Purgatory Early” card. Since by definition everyone who is in Purgatory will eventually get out (and go the Heaven) the deal the Bankster’s got is much sweeter.

The sale of indulgences was banned by the Council of Trent.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-10-21 07:37:26

They have ‘really ornate exteriors’ with French, German and Swiss influence ‘all tossed into the same house,’ she says.”

Vomit inducing architecture. Architectural blight. This is a shame because of the resources that were allocated to this junk. And it’s JUNK. For every
brick ranch or colonial of timeless design and clean lines, I can show you 10 architectural abortions of gargantuan size and proportion. All as the result of The Great Housing Fraud.

 
Comment by Kim
2011-10-21 10:57:42

“Americans have lost a vast amount of wealth access to credit, and they have lost faith in housing as an investment an ATM.”

Fixed it.

 
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