November 7, 2011

Homeowners More Prone To Read Documents

The Chicago Journal reports from Illinois. “Margaret Blakey took out a mortgage on her home in Bronzeville back in 1996, but unless she gets help now from the government and her mortgage lender, Wells Fargo, she won’t have that house for long. Blakey earns money as a singer, but has struggled to find work since the recession started in 2008 and has fallen behind in her mortgage payments. ‘Wells Fargo, my lender, they gave me the run around about giving me a modification,’ Blakey said. ‘You failed on the fact that your property is worth less than you owe on it — that’s really what they told me.’”

‘”I had just spent three months turning in all these papers,’ Blakey added. ‘They were asking for information that they didn’t require when I got the loan. I didn’t have to show my tax documents when I got the loan.’”

“Homeowners interviewed repeatedly mentioned the problem of their mortgage payments exceeding or about to exceed their property’s value. ‘I’ve tried refinancing my home — unfortunately my adjustable rate mortgage is about to go up in January,’ said Lebardo Olague, who bought a home for his family in the South Side’s Ashburn neighborhood in 2004. ‘My monthly salary is not enough — I’m already pretty much just bobbing my head above water and I’m about to go under.’”

“Asked about any signs of encouragement at a fair full of anxious homeowners, Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s office did note increased financial literacy. ‘We do see that consumers are more cautious with their finances,’ said Vanessa Zamora, a housing policy advisor for Attorney General Lisa Madigan. ‘They are more prone to read documents they’re receiving. Before some of them wouldn’t know what the interest rate was.’”

The Chicago Tribune in Illinois. “For most of the housing crisis, Chicago-area homebuilders and real estate agents have repeatedly said thank goodness they weren’t trying to do business in such housing boom and bust states as Florida, California, Arizona and Nevada, which experienced frenetic homebuilding and skyrocketing home values. If the most recent forecast from the National Association of Home Builders proves correct, they might want to eat those words.”

“From 2000 to 2003, before the bubble, the average number of single-family housing starts in Illinois was 44,431 annually. By the end of next year, Illinois will have recovered only to a point where builders are constructing 27 percent of that normal range, and starts will grow to 42 percent of normal activity by 2013.”

“The one piece of immediate good news in the forecast was that consumers who are buying are purchasing homes that are much more in line with their ability to afford them. Typically, people qualify for and purchase homes that are three times their income. That swelled to an unsustainable five times income during the bubble years but now is back to more realistic levels as a result of lower home values and tight credit underwriting. ‘There does seem to be some resettling of house prices down to what people can afford,’ said David Crowe, chief economist of the builders’ group.”

Chicago Now in Illinois. “In late July, the Chicago City Council passed an ordinance designed to clean up the thousands of vacant properties left decaying in the wake of foreclosure crisis. That ordinance would hold lender and mortgage servicers accountable for the maintenance of vacant homes, declaring them responsible for the property even before they legally took ownership when a foreclosure was complete.”

“I talked to Linda Koch, president of the Illinois Bankers Association. She said the new ordinance will make it too difficult for banks to make loans. ‘We already have bankers calling us saying, ‘How are we going to make loans anymore? How are we going to price our loans? How are we going to sell our loans to the secondary market?’ Koch said.”

“The problem with the ordinance, Koch said, is that it makes it impossible for lenders to estimate the risk of any given loan. ‘The cost is the cost of unknowns. No lender could know upfront whether that mortgage is going to go into foreclosures, consequently go into abandonment,’ Koch said.’Then add to that, when a lender is subject to penalties, fines, requirements and costs–putting a new roof, boarding up windows. All of those costs are completely unknown. That makes underwriting a mortgage and pricing a mortgage almost impossible.’”

“Would the regulation really stop the banks from lending? I took that question to Tom Feltner, vice president of Chicago’s Woodstock Institute. ‘I would take those claims with a grain of salt because we’ve seen several other consumer protections where lenders have made similar claims and they’ve continued lending,’ Feltner said.”

From KSAX in Minnesota. “The housing market remains slow across the country and Greater Minnesota is no exception. A new business in Alexandria is helping sellers set their home above the rest with staging real estate. Lecia Spellman of Act One Staging transforms cluttered and outdated spaces into sellable places. ‘It’s like fishing,’ Spellman said, ‘You’ve got to put the right bait on the hook to get them to even come look at the house once they’ve seen the pictures online. You’ve got a lot of competition.’”

“Spellman started her first staging project on a home that’s been on the market for over a year. Kitty Bundy was the lucky winner of a free home makeover with new flooring, paint, furnishings and landscaping. ‘This is a blessing and I know it will prove worthwhile,’ Bundy said.”

From CNN. “During an interview with a reporter from Minnesota television station WCCO, President Barack Obama was asked if he believed the country was ‘better off’ than it was four years ago, and he maintained it was because of policies he put in place. But Obama also conceded there was much more work to do, adding ‘I don’t think the country is stronger yet then it was when the economy was still booming and we didn’t have the Wall Street crisis, and we didn’t have the housing bubble burst. But, we’ve made steady progress; we just need to make more.’”

The Sunshine State News. “GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann blamed President Barack Obama for the $13 million in bonuses issued to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives. ‘Mr. President, it’s time to stop paying off your friends at Fannie and Freddie and pull the plug on their bailouts and on their executives’ bonuses,’ the Minnesota congresswoman said in a statement.”

“Citing the $6 billion in bailout money sought by Freddie Mac, Bachmann said, ‘Fannie and Freddie have become our own Greece. While the world is watching to see if Greece will default on its debt, Fannie and Freddie, the epicenter of the financial crisis, continue to drag down the housing market and the American economy. They, like Greece, should be allowed to fail rather than asking the American people to bail them out.’”

“Calling Obama to account, Bachmann said, ‘The president has chosen to reward failure with his friends at Fannie and Freddie; at the same time he railed against bonuses for Wall Street. It’s time to end crony capitalism. As president, I will unleash the engine of the free market to solve the housing crisis, grow our economy and create jobs.’”

From the Pioneer Press in Minnesota. “Fraudulent sales of St. Paul condominiums were among the deals that earned John Anthony Spencer a 10-year, five-month prison term. The 31-year-old former mortgage broker was sentenced Monday for his role in a $7 million mortgage fraud scheme, which also included homes in North Minneapolis and Spencer’s own home in Albertville.”

“At the Fisk Street units, Spencer recruited Bryan Joseph Lenton, an appraiser, to assign inflated values to the properties. Spencer, at the time a mortgage broker at Minnesota One Mortgage, put together fraudulent loan applications for straw buyers. He also arranged to pay AC Standard Construction $227,800 for work on two of the units. But prosecutors said no work was done and that the construction company actually was a sham business set up to channel kickbacks.”

“In another incident, prosecutors said that Spencer defrauded Anoka Hennepin Credit Union when he borrowed $700,000 to purchase his Albertville home, receiving $73,000 back at closing without the credit union’s knowledge. The deals took place in 2006 at the peak of the housing market and involved two St. Paul condominiums — a fourplex on Fisk Street and four condo units on Dayton Avenue — and six single-family homes in North Minneapolis.”

“He was indicted in December along with Lenton and Patrick Arthur Dols, another mortgage broker. Lenton of Oakdale, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy on March 8. Dols of Minneapolis, pleaded guilty to the same charge on March 1. They still are awaiting sentencing dates. Each faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison.”

The Kansas Reporter. “Kansas community governments and the taxpayers who support them are headed for a financial jolt, some recent trends in home sales statewide suggest. Kansas home sales in September topped year-earlier levels by double digit percentages for a third consecutive month, the Kansas Association of Realtors reports. Federal homebuying tax credits included in 2009 stimulus legislation to spur sales ‘were expired for three months by this time in 2010, which means buyers are responding to incredibly low interest rates,’ said Association President Jamie Holt, a Coldwell Banker real estate agent in Wichita.”

“‘We know our market is no longer appreciating,’ said Sedgwick County Appraiser Michael Borchard, whose department is working on appraisals for Wichita and its suburbs due Nov. 1.”

“Reading home real estate market tea leaves also has become more difficult, because what the industry calls distressed sales — houses either in or near foreclosure — are a larger market presence. ‘Distressed sales, of homes selling 20 percent or more below their market value, were negligible just a few years ago before markets fell,’ said Walter Malloy, a spokesman for the National Association of Realtors. ‘Now they account for one-third of the market.’”

The World Herald in Nebraska. “There were a few things Omahan Marty Pitzel hadn’t counted on when he bought the fixer-upper house 10 years ago that was to be his retirement nest egg. He suffered a stroke that stole short-term memory and led to a job termination. Arthritis flared up in his fingers, rendering him unable to perform other labor. The housing market then collapsed, and the value of the home that Pitzel had remodeled plunged by perhaps 20 percent, he said. So instead of reaping profit from an investment property Pitzel assumed he’d have sold by now, he was facing a balloon payment that his reduced income couldn’t afford.’

“In Nebraska, 16 percent of residential properties are underwater or very close. In Iowa, it’s 13 percent, compared with the national average of 27 percent. Nearly 22,000 of 225,000 Nebraska mortgages are underwater, and 14,000 others have less than 5 percent equity. In Iowa, about 33,500 of 370,000 mortgages have negative equity, and 15,500 others are within the 5 percent range.”

“Pitzel actually met the restrictive guidelines of the original HARP — and recently refinanced his debt under that version. A decade ago when he bought the $44,000 house on a double lot, Pitzel was working full time and earning money on the side painting and plastering. Friends called him crazy for buying the place that hadn’t been occupied for two years. He, however, viewed it as an investment.”

“A few years later he refinanced to about $70,000 and added improvements including a deck, master bedroom, fireplace and siding on the house valued for tax purposes at $85,500. He also took out a second, $35,000 mortgage, agreeing to pay only interest for the first five years. Since he planned to have the house sold before the payoff date, Pitzel said, it made sense. ‘I just figured I’m going to sell this place and I’d be paid off.’”

“But in 2007, Pitzel’s leg went numb and learned he had had a stroke. Much of his short-term memory, he said, ‘went south.’ He lost his job and received unemployment for a year before being declared disabled and eligible for Social Security. Even if he were able to sell his house, Pitzel said, it wouldn’t produce a return on his investment because its value collapsed along with the housing market. ‘The equity was supposed to be my savings,’ he said.”

“Complicating matters further, the second mortgage payoff was due this past September. Pitzel knew he couldn’t pull it off. Even though interest rates were at historically low rates, Pitzel said he didn’t qualify for most conventional refinancing because of his lack of equity in the home appraised recently at $98,000. His elderly mom was dying at the time, adding to his stress. Enter HARP. Today his combined house payments are $731, about $100 less than before. ‘I felt like the weight of the world was lifted off my shoulders,’ he said.”

“Still, Pitzel is well aware how the unexpected — be it another health setback, water leak, furnace breakdown, etc. — could throw him off kilter again. And he awaits the day home prices will rise. ‘I plan to hang in there till this market comes back,’ Pitzel said. ‘That’s all I can do.’”




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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-11-07 04:46:48

‘You failed on the fact that your property is worth less than you owe on it — that’s really what they told me.’

She has LOTS of company!

Low mortgage rates elude ‘underwater’ homeowners
By DEREK KRAVITZ, AP Economics Writer – Oct 25, 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) — Today’s record-low mortgage rates are out of reach for millions of U.S. homeowners who would benefit from them most.

One in four homeowners with a mortgage — 11 million people — owe more than their home is worth. These “underwater” borrowers have virtually no shot at refinancing.

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 06:14:55

House bought long before bubble: Check.
Needs mod (mod into what?) or she’ll lose the house: Check.
Didn’t need to show tax documents for loan… in 1996? Doubt it. More like 2005. Check.
Possible semi-squatting since ~2009? Check.
Underwater now? Not compared to 1996 value, especially after 12 years of payments. Check.
Thinks she is entitled to government help: Check.

What did you do with the money, Margaret?

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-11-07 08:11:20

Get’em Oxy.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-11-07 04:54:04

“The problem with the ordinance, Koch said, is that it makes it impossible for lenders to estimate the risk of any given loan. ‘The cost is the cost of unknowns. No lender could know upfront whether that mortgage is going to go into foreclosures, consequently go into abandonment,’ Koch said.”

It sounds like they need to hire some bankers who understand basic risk management principles.

Comment by polly
2011-11-07 07:06:23

LIke understanding that if you forclose and take possession shortly after the payments stop, it is less likely that the house will have been abandoned for a long time and deteriorated a lot? That sort of risk management?

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-11-07 07:50:15

20-30% downpayment
35% max of income for ALL debt
Proof that you have a job
Foreclose within 60 days from last missed payment
Etc.

That should help “mitigate” the risk for the banks…

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 08:29:14

The banks will also lose far more in balance sheet losses than they will gain in interest from any new low-risk loans.

 
Comment by desertdweller
2011-11-07 12:35:34

Banks don’t lose a buck when a foreclosure files.
It was all pie in the sky #s anyway, and now they
can resell the property and make even more do re mi.

 
 
Comment by Barnaby33
2011-11-07 09:01:48

Banks don’t make loans anymore. They broker them to the govt. The idea that they’ll stop lending is pure crap.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2011-11-07 05:01:55

‘I don’t think the country is stronger yet then it was when the economy was still booming and we didn’t have the Wall Street crisis, and we didn’t have the housing bubble burst.’

We just need to allow time for the seeds of mania, which the Fed is currently sowing, to come to fruition. Once another housing bubble is in full bloom, the country will once again be strong — just like it was during the Roaring 20’s and the Roaring 90’s.

Is this the collective thinking of the Obamanomics Brain Trust?

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-11-07 06:13:38

‘With Election Day just over a year away, a deep sense of economic anxiety and doubt about the future hangs over the nation, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, with Americans’ distrust of government at its highest level ever. Not only do 89 percent of Americans say they distrust government to do the right thing, but 74 percent say the country is on the wrong track and 84 percent disapprove of Congress — warnings for Democrats and Republicans alike.’

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/us/politics/poll-finds-anxiety-on-the-economy-fuels-volatility-in-the-2012-race.html?_r=2

Comment by 2banana
2011-11-07 07:52:15

Election day is TOMORROW.

Mostly local/city/county/state elections

But still very important.

It will be interesting if any trends show up (like cutting the size and scope of government).

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-11-07 08:15:08

Where’s the third party? Where is Ron Paul distancing himself from the GOP?

Comment by NJGuy
2011-11-07 10:57:48

Dr. Paul did distance himself from the GOP, in the past, and ran as a Libertarian…it did not work. He had previously said that during 2008 election that his only real chance is within the GOP and not as a third party.

After he fails to get the GOP nomination, maybe, we will go for broke and go third party, as this is last election before retirement.

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Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-11-07 11:02:30

So to further marginalize himself, he runs back to the problem?

Riiiiight.

 
Comment by NJGuy
2011-11-07 11:32:19

Perhaps he thinks the third party route does not have the mass of voters or money to win in his lifetime.

If he could only get the Libertarian faction and another faction of the GOP to challenge the Rockfeller core he can get the nomination. Wishful thinking? Probably.

Ronald Reagan did manage to break through in 1980. He was in the roaming the GOP wilderness just 4 years earlier.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2011-11-07 12:57:24

Ronnie was a heck of a spokesman for his cause, though. Way more than anybody except Palin. Unfortunately for her she doesn’t match him in other areas or she’d be the one I’d expect to achieve the same thing (whether you think that’s good or bad).

 
Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 14:39:28

“we” ?

Is this the Fandom We?

 
Comment by NJGuy
2011-11-08 10:50:43

Oxide,

Just a typo on “we” as I have not had my Jolt cola today

Jolt Cola-as the sugar and twice the caffeine (sp).

 
 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2011-11-07 11:12:36

We don’t have an answer on wages. And debt is out of fashion, at the individual level at least. Thus the continued focus on inflating asset prices.

 
Comment by Dave
2011-11-07 22:54:03

The Democrats have always wanted low-income housing subsidized by taxpayers.

Now they have it.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 06:44:47

Today’s houses:

House 1: That cape is worth what?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9504-Seminole-St-Silver-Spring-MD-20901/37280590_zpid/

1939 3/2 cutie-patootie cape on a double lot. It’s within a mile of the Beltway, so it’s probably noisy. Roof looks a little worn. Once you get past the photoshopped furniture*, cosmetically the looks good inside with hardwood throughout. But the kitchen and rooms are small, and there’s a window air-conditioner (not a good sign). The real eye opener is the wishing price:

Feb 2002: Zestimate $252K
Jul 2011: Listed $399K.

House 2: A much nicer cape as long as you’re not 6′3″, but it’s worth what?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11-Park-Valley-Rd-Silver-Spring-MD-20910/37283461_zpid/

1932 4/3 Tudor-ish looking cape on 0.18 acre. This is a gorgeous neighborhood which I’ve walked many times. Well-built, good size, nestled in woods up the hill from a creek park. Totally redone kitchen with HGTV backsplash, finished basement that may need a new rug. With all the reno money they put in, the kitchen layout could be better.

Jun 1976: Sold $60K
Jan 2002: Zestimated $414K
Nov 2005: $657K
Oct 2011: Listed $615K. <— nice wishing price, try again.

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*I never did understand staging (either with rented furniture or rented families :roll: ) or photoshopping furniture in an attempt to “sell the dream.” Doing that just makes me feel like I’m visiting somebody else’s house and that I’d never live there. I’d much rather see the empty rooms, which makes it easier to imagine that I could live move right in and live there myself..

Comment by polly
2011-11-07 10:10:01

If you were going to photoshop furniture into a house, wouldn’t you put a sofa of some sort in the living room (not two mismatched chairs) and an actual dining room table in the dining room?

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 10:41:30

Hmmm, now that I look, I don’t think any of the furniture in either house is photoshopped. But they’re stretching the rooms to make them look longer, which makes the furniture look fake. The upright piano gives it away.

 
 
 
Comment by t3chiman
2011-11-07 06:51:20

Regarding the whole spectrum of mortgage-related frauds, the states’ attorneys general have been dealing with the problem from the late 1990’s. Lisa Madigan of Illinois has been particularly proactive, and, early on, had ongoing actions against Countrywide, Wells Fargo, and dozens of lesser-known businesses. Her frustration at getting preempted by the feds was evident in her testimony before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. It’s worthwhile reading the transcript, if only to gape in dismay at the manifest “regulatory capture” of OCC and OTS by the bankers. Search on AGMadiganFCICWrittenTestimony.pdf

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2011-11-07 07:36:10

How many times in the past Ben posted articles with people stating My adjustable rate went up 3% so i thought my monthly payments would only go up 3% too.

‘They are more prone to read documents they’re receiving. Before some of them wouldn’t know what the interest rate was.’”

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-11-07 07:39:33

The Chicago Journal reports from Illinois. “Margaret Blakey took out a mortgage on her home in Bronzeville back in 1996, but unless she gets help now from the government and her mortgage lender, Wells Fargo, she won’t have that house for long. Blakey earns money as a singer,

‘”I had just spent three months turning in all these papers,’ Blakey added. ‘They were asking for information that they didn’t require when I got the loan. I didn’t have to show my tax documents when I got the loan.’”

OK - WHAT IS THE REAL STORY?

She is a singer (another singer story on HBB!).

She bought her house pre-bubble in 1996. In 1996 - you needed LOTS of documentation to get a mortgage.

Obviously - she refinanced during the bubble years. Why can’t journalist do their jobs? And where did the money go?

Oh wait - another fool who wants the money and the house FOR FREE. Cause they are all victims.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-11-07 08:13:57

She’s a singer and a victim. Let’s hear her cry the blues.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-11-07 11:18:51

Sorry to say, but artists and musicians aren’t known for their business acumen.

And to make matters worse, they’re feelers rather than thinkers. So, when a REALLY friendly salesman/woman comes along, they fall for the pitch. Because those REALLY friendly folks know how to make them feel GOOD. Especially about the financial plank-walk that they’re about to take.

We know the rest of the story.

 
 
Comment by desertdweller
2011-11-07 12:38:58

She is a singer (another singer story on HBB!).

Have there been a lot of “Singer stories” here on HBB? !! haha

OH yea, da bluesss.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-11-07 07:48:01

Today his combined house payments are $731, about $100 less than before. ‘I felt like the weight of the world was lifted off my shoulders,’ he said.”

For a savings of $100/month?

I wonder if Marty Pitzel still has cable, iphone, smokes, etc.

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 08:50:21

I agree fruit-pie. I was stunned when I read how close to the wire some households operate. No wonder they’re hit with overdraft fees all the time.

It also means that they have ZIP for retirement savings and are likely to depend on solely SS when they get older. It’s hard enough to live only SS and Medicare, and that’s WITH a paid off house. All these re-fi’s will start the 30-year clock again, right? In 20 years these people are going to be sleeping under bridges.

Comment by GEG
2011-11-07 11:41:41

You’re forgetting all the programs available. And you don’t even need to be that low income to get it. Family of four making $41K a year can qualify for WIC.

Comment by polly
2011-11-07 13:50:03

WIC is only for pregnant women and kids 5 and under. How is that relevant to people on SS and Medicare?

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Comment by In Colorado
2011-11-07 14:58:03

It isn’t relevant, it’s just a talking point.

I just googled the income requirements for SNAP. I found this:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm#income

The monthly gross income limit for a family of 4 to qualify is $2,422, which is $29K, not $41K per year.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jim
2011-11-07 10:07:39

A lot of households are barely making food budget, don’t forget.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-11-07 11:23:16

The World Herald in Nebraska. “There were a few things Omahan Marty Pitzel hadn’t counted on when he bought the fixer-upper house 10 years ago that was to be his retirement nest egg.

Eeek!

Marty, Arizona Slim here. Like you, I’m getting on in years. But there ain’t no way in Hades that I view the Arizona Slim Ranch as an investment. It’s a fixer-upper like your abode and guess what, I view it as a place to live. With periodic fixer-upper challenges for me to get my DIY ya-yas out on.

That’s it. Just a place to live. With challenges built in. Speaking of which, anyone want to hear about my struggle to remove old faucet aerators and install new ones this past weekend?

Long story short: The job is made a lot easier if you soak the old aerators in vinegar before removing them. Just fill one of those little coffee scopes with vinegar, then tape it to the faucet. Wait a half hour (or longer, if need be) and that old aerator comes right off.

Comment by 2banana
2011-11-07 12:07:58

Just use a bigger wrench…. :-)

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-11-07 12:45:09

Tell ya the truth, I started out with a slip-joint wrench on the first faucet. Boy, was that an ordeal.

So, I made it a little coffee scoop “feed bag” of vinegar, taped that to the faucet, then went off to address the other faucet. Slip joint couldn’t budge it, but my pipe wrench sure did!

 
 
Comment by The_Overdog
2011-11-07 13:03:19

Mine’s a fixer upper too, and just like Marty I have to replace the siding this winter/summer as a I go along. Gonna be a blast of a project. Who doesn’t want to spend their weekends standing on a 20ft ladder nailing in lap siding with an underpowered nailgun?

In any case, how the heck is a fixer upper going to be a nest egg if you have to pay for the fixing upping part on credit? The only nest egg money he was banking on would be straight up price inflation.

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 14:41:19

When someone says “fixer upper” I think of $40-60 and a general contractor. Maybe his idea of fixer-upper is the paint counter at Lowe’s.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-11-07 15:02:53

And when I think of a major fixer-upper, I think of my Cousin Tom, a remodeling contractor. Nice lady in his town had purchased a really scary looking house. I’m talking straight outta the Addams Family scary.

Place needed major work. So, the nice lady called Tom.

The more she got to know him, the more she liked him. And she especially enjoyed how he treated his mother, my Aunt Jean. Suffice it to say that Tom is very nice to his mother.

Any-hoo, Tom and the nice lady, name’s Susan, have been married for quite a few years. And, as Susan says, “Hey, I’m 65 years old and I’m in LOVE!”

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Comment by desertdweller
2011-11-07 12:43:02

Prices in mid/low end are still coming down in the desert, but reluctantly.
Lots of signs up.
Must be due to high season in beginning stages.

Comment by oxide
2011-11-07 13:14:25

Went driving around this weekend. Nice sunny day, LOTS of signs up as well. Of course most of the pries are $100K too high.

Comment by desertdweller
2011-11-07 21:38:19

Yes, oxide, still to high. 100k +

The condo I bought in 95 was 20k (sold-27k), is now 125k
Too high.

 
 
 
Comment by WPHR_editor
2011-11-07 12:53:01

“Homeowners More Prone To Read Documents”

Be sure when you buy a house to read the contract for any clauses related to being turned into a human CentiPad. Talk about coming back to bite you in the rear….

“Why won’t it READ?!?!?!” –Steve Jobs(sort of)

Comment by bink
2011-11-07 19:14:21

“Convicts more likely to know the law.”

 
 
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