December 7, 2011

A Can’t-Miss Investment

The Union Leader reports on New Hampshire. “The good news for the housing market? New Hampshire home sales rose 13 percent in September, the third-consecutive month sales have increased compared with the same month last year. The other news? The median purchase price dropped 10 percent during that time — from $217,000 in September 2010 to $195,350 in September 2011. There’s reason to believe that the down-to-earth nature of today’s prices is the new normal, not an aberration. It’s worth remembering that the notion of housing as a can’t-miss investment is relatively recent.”

“The bubble didn’t begin until the 1990s and lasted just a decade. Consider the Granite State: According to the New Hampshire Housing Finance Authority, the median price of homes in New Hampshire rose every year from 1994 to 2005, dipped negligibly in 2006, then peaked at $252,500 in 2007. Since then? With the exception of an uptick in 2010 (thanks to the First-Time Homebuyer Credit), median prices have decreased every year.”

The Sentinel Source in New Hampshire. “Falling property values in Cheshire County are directly attributable to the recession-fueled national housing bubble, not local affordable housing issues, said Dennis Delay, an economist with the N.H. Center for Public Policy Studies and the New England Economic Partnership. ‘Falling property values had nothing to do with workforce housing and everything to do with the (housing) bubble,” he said.”

“The average price of a house in Cheshire County today, adjusted for inflation, is the same as in 2000, prompting Delay to call it ‘the lost decade.’ He said whereas homeowners could count on their homes for 10 percent of their disposable income, it has since dropped to negative-3 percent. ‘You can no longer use your homes as ATM machines,’ he said.”

The Hartford Courant in Connecticut. “Home sale prices in Greater Hartford plunged nearly 11 percent in October — the biggest monthly year-over-year decline so far this year. Curt Clemens Sr., owner of Century 21 Clemens & Sons in Hartford, said the steep median price decline in October does not necessarily mean there is an overall decline in prices of that magnitude. ‘It doesn’t surprise me that the median dropped,’ Clemens said. ‘There are more foreclosure sales.’”

The Connecticut Post Post. “The median sales price in Fairfield County in 2011 is $497,000, compared with $481,000 in 2010, but sales are down 5.9 percent. Many of the houses that Prudential Connecticut Realty sells now are short sales, when the home owner arranges with the lender to sell the property at a loss. ‘Thirty to 50 percent of sales we handle are short sales,’ said Peter Helie, chairman and CEO of Prudential Connecticut Realty, adding that now is the time to buy because interest rates are low. ‘In my 40 years, I’ve never seen interest rates as low as they are now. If houses are priced properly, we’re seeing multiple offers.’”

My Central Jersey. “The Federal Housing Finance Agency, with help from Congress, recently took steps that affect people buying homes in high-priced real estate markets such as New Jersey. First, Congress approved an extension of the loan limit on Federal Housing Administration loans in high-priced markets at $729,900. The regular limit in most areas is $417,000, but in the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 Congress temporarily approved the higher limit for some high-priced areas. That limit was set to expire in November 2011. Instead, the higher limits have been extended for two more years.”

“In addition, the FHFA has set the size of loans for 2012 that will conform to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guidelines in higher-priced markets at $625,000.”

“Real estate professionals in Central Jersey had mixed feelings about the high-balance loan limit extension. ‘I believe that Congress should raise the loan limits. The last thing the country’s weak housing market needs is stricter limits on government-backed mortgages,’ said Brian Platten, a sales associate with ERA Van Syckel, Weaver & Lyte in Bridgewater. ‘FHA is important for first-time homebuyers, so that will help support housing demand.’”

“But Jo Carlin, a sales associate at Weichert Realtors, expressed some reservations. While she likes the idea of a longtime policy that gives people some stability with which to plan, she said: ‘With loan limits above $700,000 and down payments as low as 3.5 percent, it is a scary thought concerning the future solvency of the FHA if many buyers start defaulting after borrowing more than $675,000. With less than $25,000 of the buyers’ money in the deal, a small decline in the potential selling price of the purchased property means the seller would quickly find himself underwater and inclined to walk away. I would suggest for the larger-dollar loans greater than $650,000, FHA should require down payments of at least 10 percent.’”

“‘Contrary to years ago, home prices are low and interest rates are at record lows. There has not been a better time to purchase a home in over 30 years. Most real estate agents would agree that most of the time, when a buyer wants to buy a home north of $700,000, they are qualified without the need for an FHA-insured loan. I don’t think Congress needs to worry about $700,000 FHA mortgages. The real estate industry needs the support and expression of confidence from Congress that will come from an increase in the loan limit,’ said Real estate broker Joseph Boniakowski.”

The Philadelphia Inquirer. “After their youngest child finished high school in June, destined for college, Janice and John Potts lost no time bolting from New Jersey. By the end of July, the longtime Haddonfield residents were cheerfully ensconced in a three-bedroom rowhouse near Philadelphia’s Washington Square. Their new abode is much smaller than the 4,500-square-foot home (with swimming pool) that they sold, but it comes with a huge plus. ‘We downsized in terms of space, but cut our property-tax bill in half,’ said Janice Potts.”

“‘What it came down to for us: We wanted to have a home and studio space,’ said Colin Keefe. ‘That wasn’t really possible in Brooklyn. To buy the (Mount Airy) house that we have here, in Brooklyn is $800,000, and that was not in the realm of possibility.’”

MetroWest Daily News in Massachusetts. “Stung by job losses, a shaky housing market and mortgage woes, Bay State residents are reflecting a national trend the U.S. Census unveiled recently: They are staying put. Economists and housing analysts see mobility as a sign of financial health - an indication of whether people are willing or able to pull up stakes and pursue new jobs or better homes. Both may be out of reach for many people who stick where they are.”

“Some potential homebuyers with decent credit have been unable to find mortgages since the market collapsed, said Barry Bluestone, director of the Dukakis Center for Urban and Regional Policy at Northeastern University. Others owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth, making it impossible to sell or refinance. Some potential buyers are just waiting for home prices to level out. ‘A lot of people have stayed on the sidelines who have perfectly good credit, could get a good mortgage, but are staying in the rental market,’ said Bluestone.”

The Boston Globe in Massachusetts. “For the small-landlord-in-training there couldn’t be a better time to consider a multifamily. Rob and Juliet Pyles bought a three-family in East Boston for $500,000 at the height of the market. ‘Is it worth that now?’ asks Rob. ‘No. Do I mind? No, because I have absolutely zero intention of selling it. For us, these properties are very long-term investments.’”

From Town Hall. “Barney Frank is retiring from Congress? I’m surprised. Surely he could have stayed on and done even more damage to the American economy. Congressman Frank was largely responsible for inflating the housing market over the last decade, a decision that set off a chain reaction of fiscal disasters. The man is a great salesman — even if, sooner or later, what he’s selling tends to go poof. Like the housing bubble.”

“The moral of the story: A fellow can go far in this country if he’s a smooth talker.”

“Newt Gingrich is the latest example of that axiom over on the starboard side of American politics. These days Mr. Gingrich is vociferously opposed — he tends to be vociferous no matter what subject he’s addressing at the moment — to the kind of private-public deals that led to the housing boom-cum-bust heard ’round the world. But that didn’t stop him from accepting a million or two from Freddie Mac back in its heyday. For what, exactly? For his services as an ‘historian,’ he explained at one point; for his ’strategic advice’ at another.”

“Fast on his feet, the new Newt explains that he told Freddie Mac its policies were ‘insane.’ But its chief lobbyist, Mitchell Delk, doesn’t remember his saying any such thing. It turns out Freddie Mac, a government-subsidized agency, was subsidizing the former speaker at the rate of $30,000 a month, and the payments continued right up to the time the government had to take it over.

“Not that any of this has kept Newt the Irrepressible from vehemently criticizing Barney Frank. ‘Go back and look at the lobbyists he was close to at Freddie Mac,’ he told a questioner in a presidential debate the other night. ‘Everybody in the media who wants to go after the business community ought to start by going after the politicians who have been at the heart of the sickness.’ Except him, of course.”

The Gothamist in New York. “Wouldn’t it be nice to hop into the car and glide down to the street in a private elevator? Glauco Lolli-Ghetti, a Manhattan real estate developer, lives this dream from the 11th floor of his $7 million Chelsea condo. ‘This is about as close to a suburban home that you can achieve in an urban area like New York,’ Lolli-Ghetti tells the Times.”

“Lolli-Ghetti’s parking space ‘would be valued at more than $800,000 if priced at the same rate per square foot as the rest of the apartment.’ But the peace of mind knowing some punk kid isn’t keying your Range Rover, or even looking at it scornfully, is priceless.”

The Wall Street Journal. “New York developer Gary Barnett has picked a strange time to erect Manhattan’s tallest residential building, one featuring a five-star hotel and with top-floor penthouses available for nearly $100 million apiece. Mr. Barnett and his partners are among a small band of developers borrowing heavily and rolling the dice on a highly select clientele: the global elite who float above the economic malaise.”

“While a hallmark of the economic downturn has been the collapse of the housing market, the extreme top of residential markets in New York, London, Hong Kong and other select cities has been resilient. Mr. Barnett says the number of billionaire and multimillionaire investors in the world has never been greater. In addition to Russians and Western Europeans, he says, ‘you’re seeing Latin Americans in a big way. You’re seeing Chinese in a big way. You’re seeing the return of the Middle Eastern buyer.’”




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Comment by Xenos
2011-12-07 05:49:18

Barney Frank inflated the real estate bubble?

Man, Greenspan’s reputation has really fallen in the last few years.

Comment by Ben Jones
2011-12-07 06:14:48

Congress had the responsibility to oversee the GSEs. When they couldn’t produce financial statements, had scandals everywhere, congress did nothing. Frank had a lot to do with that.

This misdirection is tiresome and it is perpetuating our problems. When I was asked years ago what was to blame for the housing bubble, I said the unaccountability of the Fed, congress and wall street. Notice I said the unaccountability.

What negative consequences did Greenspan endure? Or Frank or Gingrich, Or wall street?

Yet here the system is, stealing right from every pocket in this country, even today:

‘Congress approved an extension of the loan limit on Federal Housing Administration loans in high-priced markets at $729,900…the higher limits have been extended for two more years. In addition, the FHFA has set the size of loans for 2012 that will conform to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guidelines in higher-priced markets at $625,000.’

No shame, no repercussions. Gingrich takes bribes openly from a GSE and is running for President! If you want to know why this country is screwed up and why we can’t seem to change things for the better, IMO it’s the unaccountability.

Comment by jeff saturday
2011-12-07 06:55:21

Nat King Cole
Unforgettable - Song Lyrics

Unaccountable, that’s what you are.
Unaccountable, though near or far.
Like the stink of bribes that clings to me,
How the thought of you does things to me,
Never before has someone been more.

Unaccountable, the FHA.
And forever more
That’s how they’ll stay

That’s why Barney, it’s incredible,
That someone so unaccountable,
Thinks that Fannies unaccountable too.

No never before, has someone been more

Unaccountable in every way
And forever more
That’s how you’ll stay

That’s why Greenspan, its incredible
That someone so unaccountable
Thinks that Wall streets, unaccountable too

 
Comment by oxide
2011-12-07 08:49:24

“Congress had the responsibility to oversee the GSEs. ”

By then, it was too late. The groundwork had already been laid by
1. interest rates,
2. repeal of Glass-Steagall,
3. the “good” accounting practice of booking a neg-am or I/O minimum payment as a fully amortized payment. [IMO the effect of this is underestimated.]

The GSE, having a Bottomless Stockholder Maw just like the Big Boyz, were forced to chase profits. I agree that they should have been stopped sooner, but they didn’t cause the bubble.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-12-07 07:57:18

You actually could NEVER use your house as an ATM

Home Equity Loand as just that - It is a loan - and it needs to be paid back, with interest, or you lose your house. That is not the same as a withdrawal of cash from an account that already has the money in it.

“The average price of a house in Cheshire County today, adjusted for inflation, is the same as in 2000, prompting Delay to call it ‘the lost decade.’ He said whereas homeowners could count on their homes for 10 percent of their disposable income, it has since dropped to negative-3 percent. ‘You can no longer use your homes as ATM machines,’ he said.”

Comment by oxide
2011-12-07 09:11:43

+1. Refis are a cash advance on a CC.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-12-07 11:58:14

Which you can get at an ATM.

I think the “House as an ATM” refers to how easy it was to cash out one’s appreciation as a loan.

Comment by Robin
2011-12-07 18:19:23

The common use of “ATM machine” irks me inasmuch as ATM means automated teller machine. Therefore ATM machine means automated teller machine machine. Why waste words?

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Comment by Mags57
2011-12-07 20:37:02

I used to think that too, until I just watched my MIL do a short sale and walk away from the HELOCs with no repercussions (other than a credit ding). Banks ate about $150K/25-30%. Put 20% down when she bought, immediately took it back out + another cash out refi - going to end up paying NONE of it back. No 1099, no def judgment, nothing. Worst part is that my house probably lost as much value but I’ve paid down a lot of the principal. Honestly, if I could do it all over again I’d have to say I’d take her path. I’ll take a credit hit in exchange for 100K+ in the bank + not having to try and sell my place on the open market (ie spending more $, bringing $ to the table, etc). Best part is she complains about how she ‘lost’ her down payment (which she spent from the 1st refi). I figure she basically lived for free for her time in the house (about 6 yrs). Really, who is the idiot here? IMO, for better or worse, this approach is gaining steam quick b/c it’s very difficult for conventional sellers to compete with shorts/foreclosures, especially when the appraisal aspect starts factoring in the lower prices (which it should). My wife and I are considering moving - basically all we look at are short sales. Why do I want to buy house 1 for $X in the neighborhood when houses 2 and 3 in the same neighborhood are for sale for 30% less? Builders who havent completed the subdivisions are doomed for the same reason. We have the time to wait, and they are actually closing on a somewhat routine basis now as the process becomes more and more accepted/routine. It’s easy to slash your selling price when you don’t actually have to pay for anything. This is in the MD/VA/DC area.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-12-07 08:01:37

In WHAT DEMENTED universe do FIRST TIME homebuyers need GOVERNMENT HELP to borrow $625k-730k to buy a house????

That means you should have income of at least $250,000/year.

Why do these people need government help????

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…approved an extension of the loan limit on Federal Housing Administration loans in high-priced markets at $729,900.

…Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guidelines in higher-priced markets at $625,000.”

“Real estate professionals in Central Jersey had mixed feelings about the high-balance loan limit extension. ‘I believe that Congress should raise the loan limits. The last thing the country’s weak housing market needs is stricter limits on government-backed mortgages,’ said Brian Platten, a sales associate with ERA Van Syckel, Weaver & Lyte in Bridgewater. ‘FHA is important for first-time homebuyers, so that will help support housing demand.’”

Comment by oxide
2011-12-07 09:31:59

The Realtor is lying. FHA is not limited to first-time buyers (although it is limited to primary homes). Anyone can get an FHA loan if they pass income requirements, put 3.5% down, and add about 2.5% fees to the howmuchmonth.

In the past it used to be important for first-time buyers because it was the only way to circumvent the 20% down. So the Realtor is mixing the mom-and-apple pie of a the first-timer of long ago who scrapes for his down payment, and the insidious banksters who take adavantage of FHA for the gov guarantee.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-12-07 15:17:06

ReaItors are Lying, congressmen are lying, journalists are Iying, banking scum is lying, builders are lying.

There is no truth other than what you find among revolutionaries.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-12-07 08:08:41

These fools bought a row house in Philadelphia to “down size” and save money in their retirement?

Let’s see.

4.5% wage tax
Poor schools
High Crime
Corruption beyond imagination
Extremely high car insurance premiums (if you can even get it)
AND - The city is bankrupt due to insane public union contracts. Guess what is going to happen to their property taxes in the next few years (hint - the public union goons are not going to give anything back).

If you wanted to save money in retirement and move to Pennsylvania - you move to OIL CITY.

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“After their youngest child finished high school in June, destined for college, Janice and John Potts lost no time bolting from New Jersey. By the end of July, the longtime Haddonfield residents were cheerfully ensconced in a three-bedroom rowhouse near Philadelphia’s Washington Square.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-12-07 11:11:27

Truth be told, Washington Square is a pretty nice part of Philadelphia. And, if they want to be close to cultural events and attend many of them, it’s probably better that they live in the city, rather than battling the commute in from the suburbs.

Comment by oxide
2011-12-07 11:42:22

They would have to attend a LOT of cultural events — as in, almost every day — before the living in the city is worth the price.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2011-12-07 08:10:19

The fools!

PS - Think why do they have perfectly good credit???

‘A lot of people have stayed on the sidelines who have perfectly good credit, could get a good mortgage, but are staying in the rental market,’ said Bluestone.”

 
Comment by 2banana
2011-12-07 08:13:47

Borrowing from who?

And when this goes bust - will they demand a bailout?

“New York developer Gary Barnett has picked a strange time to erect Manhattan’s tallest residential building, one featuring a five-star hotel and with top-floor penthouses available for nearly $100 million apiece. Mr. Barnett and his partners are among a small band of developers borrowing heavily and rolling the dice on a highly select clientele: the global elite who float above the economic malaise.”

 
Comment by Richard
2011-12-07 09:01:49

Public School Tax. How does anyone work their whole life to pay off the mortgage only to find a public school tax bill attached every year forever to the house. I never attended public schools and I have no children. I work hard paid off my house and at 44 years old the school tax is the biggest bill I pay. I can see paying county tax as police and roads are necessary. But I do not understand school tax where my neighbors kid goes to school in a BMW.

I think I should run for office on the platform that once you are retired and have no children in public schools then you do not pay school tax.

A few years ago the joke going around was how you were safer in Iraq than in Philadelphia because of the murder rate.

Comment by Carl Morris
2011-12-07 09:49:39

You get a benefit from other people’s kids as well as the education of other people’s kids. I complain about a lot of stuff. I’ll even complain about how the money gets spent if it mostly goes to administration. But I’ll never complain about everyone being expected to contribute to the cause of keeping the country strong, which is exactly what we’re talking about.

Comment by oxide
2011-12-07 10:01:27

Richard, those kids will be paying your Medicare and Social Security when you are too old to work. Best for you that they make a reasonable income, don’t you think? Or, if you want immediate gratification, you’re paying to keep them off the streets.

Depending on your job, I guess you could always move to a small town where there are fewer kids and less school tax.

Comment by polly
2011-12-07 11:44:30

They will also be the doctors, lawyers, car mechnanics, grocery store clerks, etc. who make society livable when you are old. If you want to live in a world where most people can read, do a little math and know something, you get to pay taxes to fund the schools.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-12-07 10:53:37

School keeps the hoodlums out of gangs to some extent and off the streets during the weekday.

 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-12-07 12:00:16

“I think I should run for office on the platform that once you are retired and have no children in public schools then you do not pay school tax.”

And until age 50, you shouldn’t have to pay taxes for Social Security, Medicare and the senior portion of Medicaid.

 
Comment by Elanor
2011-12-07 12:17:22

So move into a Del Webb over-55 community. It’s the “Sun City” plan. ;)

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-12-07 13:02:46

Funny story: In mid-October, I was visiting a friend who lives close to Sun City. (She actually lives in Peoria, AZ.)

Any-hoo, we were at the Safeway shopping center that’s just south of the entrance to Sun City. Right below the Sun City sign was another sign advertising day care. For children.

 
 
Comment by Eggman
2011-12-07 14:35:59

The quality of your public schools directly affects your property values. Not paying school taxes is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2011-12-07 09:08:28

“Mr. Barnett says the number of billionaire and multimillionaire investors in the world has never been greater. In addition to Russians and Western Europeans, he says, ‘you’re seeing Latin Americans in a big way. You’re seeing Chinese in a big way. You’re seeing the return of the Middle Eastern buyer.’”

They’re putting up these buildings in Manhattan, and sometimes the person who actually lives there has the place to themselves. They just sit there with all the lights out, dead space. I read about one guy who was the only guy using the luxury pool.

Moreover, many of these buildings are exempt from property taxes for years and years, under incentives put in when everyone was fleeing New York City. So some time down the line, these people who never show up will be hit with a massive (and I mean massive) property tax bill they may or may not know is coming.

Comment by In Colorado
2011-12-07 12:06:07

They’re putting up these buildings in Manhattan, and sometimes the person who actually lives there has the place to themselves. They just sit there with all the lights out, dead space. I read about one guy who was the only guy using the luxury pool.

Sometimes I’m reminded about how I don’t understand how rich people are wired. I have a wealthy Mexican friend and his mother “collects” houses. What for? I have no idea. She steps into some of them maybe once a year. It would be so much more cost effective to stay in a luxury hotel when visiting town “X”, plus they will pamper you.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-12-07 13:04:38

A now deceased friend was a local commercial building contractor. Being in the trades, he was acquainted with people who built/worked on houses that were bought by the collectors.

He said that several times a year, the collectors would have to pay someone to go by and air the house out. Why? Because as my friend put it, houses need to breathe. You can’t keep them closed up all the time.

Comment by WT Economist
2011-12-07 14:06:11

“You’re seeing Chinese in a big way. You’re seeing the return of the Middle Eastern buyer.’”

Just imagine this phase — “off with their heads!” and understand why the wealthy might want somewhere to run to. You may be a resident of Zimbabwe for tax purposes, but at some point you may need to run for the hills.

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Comment by Steve J
2011-12-07 10:55:23

Can you really commute to NYC from Pennsylvania?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2011-12-07 11:12:50

Yes. People living in the Allentown area do so and have for quite some time.

 
Comment by polly
2011-12-07 11:47:09

I knew a few people who did the reverse - NYC (or close) to Philly. One did it by train to work at a hedge fund and the other was an emergency room doc who drove a huge SUV down for his 20 to 30 hour shifts.

Comment by WT Economist
2011-12-07 12:02:26

People commute in both directions from the area around Princeton, NJ. But it’s dual hell.

The commute from PA typically involves a fairly long drive to the farthest out commuter rail station. Then a very long train ride. And THEN a subway ride.

People do it because Manhattan has the highest wages in the nation, and housing prices are higher the closer to it you get.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-12-07 15:19:37

The pay is in NYC is tops.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2011-12-07 15:45:27

The people who bought my parents place in Honesdale Pa. commuted to NYC. It is about a 2 1/2 hour ride from Greenwich Ct. so a little less than that to the city. It was a 90 acre evergreen farm my old man bought in 1969 not far from a hunting club he belonged to. We used to go there on weekrnds, winter breaks and summers when I was a kid. Seems like a long daily commute to me but they don`t have to do it anymore. They put 2 more houses up on the property and lost the whole thing to foreclosure.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2011-12-07 15:58:23

“they put 2 more houses up on the property and lost the whole thing to foreclosure.”

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 
 
 
Comment by Richard
2011-12-08 09:48:41

I hear people from New Jersey moving out of the state due to public school tax all the time from life long Pennsylvania residents. In no time at all, New Jersey is replicated in Pennsylvania. I understand the value of an education, but who decided that my house was the way to fund said education. Now I live in Naples Florida and I do not think that my home’s value has anything to do with public schools. If I never attended public schools and I never have children, then it’s wrong to ask me to fund other peoples children and education every year, forever. County taxes for roads and police are used by all, but not public schools. I know people in their 80’s paying school tax on their “paid for” house. How is one’s house paid for with a public school tax bill every year for an 80 year old?! If you are retired with no kids in public schools, then the school tax should end.

 
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