When Things Went Thump
The Patriot News reports on Pennsylvania. “Nearly 14,000 Harrisburg-area property owners have lost their homes to foreclosure since 2008. The foreclosures involve all neighborhoods, from downtown Harrisburg to suburban golf course developments. In 2005, Phyllis Adams paid $93,000 for an older two-bedroom townhouse in northern York County. She later refinanced, increasing the loan amount to pay for upgrades and repairs that, as a single woman, she couldn’t do herself. Adams managed a medical office, but was unhappy and changed jobs. She took a pay cut. Her income didn’t increase as expected.”
“Taxes rose, as did maintenance and homeowners association costs, and she struggled to pay her $750 monthly mortgage. Adams twice put the house up for sale, asking about $113,000. She received no offers. She eventually stopped paying the mortgage, mailed the keys to the bank, and moved to an apartment. The home was scheduled for sheriff’s sale. She worried she’d have to pay the difference between the selling price and what’s owed. She also feels she’s being pushed out of the middle class.”
“‘I don’t need welfare and I don’t need the government to take care of me,’ said Adams. ‘But with our economy, and the wages people make, I don’t think the wages people make can support a middle-class lifestyle anymore.’”
“People continue to live in many of the homes listed for sheriff’s sale. The occupant of an upscale townhouse, on which nearly $190,000 is owed, said she was unaware of a sheriff’s sale scheduled for March. She said she stopped paying her mortgage long ago after losing her job. A pile of cartons and trash bags sat in the driveway of a corner-lot home in Hampden Twp. Legal papers taped to a window explained the home was abandoned. A family had lived there since 2000. The home was once worth about $350,000. Nearly $500,000 is owed, according to a sheriff’s sale listing.”
“‘I think he lost his job. He had financial problems. He just walked away,’ said a neighbor who didn’t want his name published.”
The News Journal in Delaware. “Occupy Delaware protesters again disrupted a New Castle County sheriff’s sale on Tuesday and, as they did last month, again demanded a halt to all foreclosure sales. In the protest statement, Bernard August, of Newark, demanded that all foreclosure sales be stopped until they could be reviewed by a third party and that homeowners be given opportunities to work out payment plans. ‘We demand that the banks that caused the economic crisis which forced people into foreclosure and who were rescued by the people’s money repay that debt directly to the people by helping them stay in their homes,’ August said.”
“Charities and nonprofits have long been the recipients of donated cash, cars, food and clothing, but now there is a trend toward houses. They say people are feeling the financial burden of paying taxes, insurance and maintenance on houses that won’t sell — and continue to drop in value. Banks saddled with foreclosures have been major property donors as well.”
“Chase Magnuson, director of Planned Giving, Real Estate for George Washington University in Washington, D.C., said he was hired two years ago to handle real estate donations to the university from its alumni. The university solicits property donations but only accepts donations where the property will net the university at least $100,000 at the closing, he said. ‘Prior to the downturn people could sell their homes for cash unless they were philanthropically inclined,’ Magnuson said. ‘Things have changed.’”
The Frederick News Post in Maryland. “Frederick County home sales were down in November. Interest rates rose in November to the 4 percent range, said Patrick McLister, an attorney with Salisbury and McLister. That is still low, but an increase on October’s rates of 3 percent. ‘First-time homebuyers are caught between deciding whether we have hit the bottom of the pricing market or continuing to be subject to the whims of a landlord by renting,’ McLister said via email. ‘They also need to have money saved for a down payment, now.’”
“Castle said single-family homes in the $250,000 or less range have held their value and sold well, but they have to be in good condition in the market. Homes in the higher end, Castle said, are still decreasing in value, though location of the property is a big factor. ‘They are still losing one-quarter to half a percent a month in value or about 6 percent a year,’ Castle said of the higher-priced homes. ‘We’re in the ‘new normal market.’”
Southern Maryland News. “2005 was the zenith of the white-hot housing market in Southern Maryland. That year, home sales topped $1 billion in Charles County, said Steuart Bowling, director of technology and new business development for the Southern Maryland Association of Realtors. Mortgage loans were free flowing, bad credit was overlooked and home values skyrocketed. Home purchases became bidding wars.”
“The party ended in 2008 ‘when things went thump,’ Bowling said. ‘After that, everything changed.’”
“Loan approvals and settlements plummeted. Home values dropped. Many people had paid much more for a house than what it was now worth. As the national economy soured, people lost their jobs and couldn’t make their inflated mortgage payments. Then the wave of foreclosures came. ‘But it’s a great time to buy, though,’ Bowling said. ‘Rates are very low. Financing is apparently available if you’re qualified.’”
“Matt Dowling and his family moved to Charles County from Omaha, Neb., three years ago. They kept their house back home and rented it out, while renting a townhouse in Waldorf. Dowling commutes to Alexandria while his wife works in La Plata most of the time. Coming from Nebraska, where the cost of living is much lower than Southern Maryland, Dowling said, ‘For what I envisioned … I wasn’t seeing the value there.’ Homes he saw in Charles County would sell for $100,000 less back in Nebraska, he said. Going into the process, he said, ‘We will not be emotionally attached to a house. I want to get a bargain.’”
“The Dowlings almost bought a foreclosed home, but then a house went up for sale that was to their liking. The owners couldn’t sell it, he said, because it was priced too high. The owners then renovated the kitchen and put it back on the market.”
“He got a tri-level house in Port Tobacco on 2½ acres with four bedrooms and three bathrooms with lots of storage space for $345,000. The only trade-off in the transaction was that Dowling’s commute got a little longer. ‘We negotiated. We got what we wanted for the price,’ Dowling said.”
“Realtor Linda Swanson sells properties in Calvert and Anne Arundel counties. She has found recently that people who want to sell their house aren’t really in a position to do so. ‘Their property is worth less than what they owe, so they’re upside down.’ she said. And some potential buyers have no sense of urgency, she said, knowing new homes will continue to come on the market. But overall, she said, ‘The market is not as bad as the media portrays it to be.’”
“Rebekah Gingerich, a teacher at Westlake High School in Charles County, also bought her first home this year. She rented for five years before that. She started looking at houses in March and settled in July. Gingerich looked at both townhomes and single-family houses. She finally found one that she really liked — a four-bedroom Cape Cod with a basement on a quarter-acre lot. It was at the top of her price range, but, ‘I loved it so much I was willing to pay for it.’ She paid $202,000 for the home in Bryans Road.”
“The sellers had inherited the home and updated its interior to live in, but then decided to put it on the market so they could buy another home, so they were motivated to sell. ‘I just got to reap the benefits,’ Gingerich said.”
The Free Lance Star in Virginia. “Housing prices were about 5 percent higher last month in the Fredericksburg area than they were in November 2010. The median sales price was about $209,500, according to data released yesterday by Metropolitan Regional Information Systems Inc. That was the highest monthly median since July.”
“The low inventory levels are likely due to a combination of few new homes being built and people being unwilling or unable to list their residences. Homes spent about 96 days on the market before selling last month, about 10 percent longer than the year before. They sold for about an 8 percent discount from list price on average. About 57 percent of the November home sales were financed with government-backed mortgages. Foreclosures made up about a quarter of the sales.”
“The higher-end market continued to struggle last month. No homes sold for more than $800,000 in the local market.”
The Journal in West Virginia. “When Tabler Station Manor Homeowners Association Treasurer Fred Riggleman looks around his community, he can’t help but notice what’s still missing and the work that has yet to be completed. Although he’s lived in the south Berkeley subdivision since 2005, things have changed since those early days when the community was new and still under construction. At that time, Riggleman believed it would be built out because the housing slump hadn’t yet begun.”
“But that didn’t happen and some of the vacant lots have since become eyesores, he said, adding that the original builder is now out of the picture. ‘As you can see, this land was supposed to be developed. … But A&A Homes sold it to Jett Builders and they went belly up, so that BB&T has it now and you can see what it looks like,’ Riggleman said, gesturing toward mounds of dirt overgrown with tall weeds and even some tree saplings.”
“‘We do get complaints from property owners, really their rental tenants because this situation leads to snakes and rats. … So I wrote the bank a letter and BB&T did have someone use a weed-eater on it about a year and a half ago, but nothing else has been done and I haven’t heard any more from them,’ he said. ‘Plus it just sits here because we can’t do anything. … We even asked them to either donate or sell it to us at a reduced rate so that we could at least get someone in here to try to clean it up,’ Riggleman said.”
“HOA President Cheryl Stancover said her major concern is how these problems - especially the vacant, overgrown lots and the addition of a new railroad siding beside the community - are diminishing property values. ‘Some of these homes were purchased for $200,000 and up but now are barely selling for $70,000,’ Stancover said. ‘And when it comes to the empty lots we do have a terrible problem with snakes. They even come out on the streets, and my husband killed five in our yard,’ she said.”
From CNN Money this morning:
Existing home sales to be revised lower
CNNMoney.comBy Blake Ellis | CNNMoney.com – 15 hours ago
If you thought the U.S. housing market couldn’t get much worse, think again.
Far fewer homes have been sold over the past five years than previously estimated, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday.
NAR said it plans to downwardly revise sales of previously-owned homes going back to 2007 during the release of its next existing home sales report on Dec. 21.
NAR’s existing home sales numbers, released monthly, are a closely followed gauge of the health of the housing market.
While NAR hasn’t revealed exactly how big the revision to home sales will be, the agency’s chief economist Lawrence Yun said the decrease will be “meaningful.”……………………..
Imagine that. NAR getting bad numbers in total houses sold. Not so many. Woowudathunkit?
How on Earth have we become such sheep that we accept 4yr- to 5yr-old numbers as ‘estimates’? Weren’t they solid measurements about 6 months after they came out?
“HOA President Cheryl Stancover said her major concern is how these problems - especially the vacant, overgrown lots and the addition of a new railroad siding beside the community - are diminishing property values. ‘Some of these homes were purchased for $200,000 and up but now are barely selling for $70,000,’ Stancover said. ‘And when it comes to the empty lots we do have a terrible problem with snakes. They even come out on the streets, and my husband killed five in our yard,’ she said.”…………………….the joys of home-ownership. Ask a Realtor(tm).
DON’T KILL THE SNAKES!
They eat rodents. Unless they’re poisonous and territorial (Timber rattlesnakes,) they’re doing you a huge favor.
Hint: They’re living there for a reason.
And here I thought the majority of snakes were located in Washington, D.C. -
“Realtor Linda Swanson sells properties in Calvert and Anne Arundel counties. She has found recently that people who want to sell their house aren’t really in a position to do so. ‘Their property is worth less than what they owe, so they’re upside down.’ she said.”
Linda’s not real quick, but she figures stuff out eventually.
Quit her higher paying job - check
Took out a mortgage to do repairs she admits she could not afford anyways- check
Bought at the height of the bubble - check
Where did the money really go question not asked - check
And she COMPLAINS she is being pushed out of the middle class. How about her own poor decisions?
And PS - $93,000 for a house is VERY affordable.
Phyllis Adams paid $93,000 for an older two-bedroom townhouse in northern York County. She later refinanced, increasing the loan amount to pay for upgrades and repairs that, as a single woman, she couldn’t do herself. Adams managed a medical office, but was unhappy and changed jobs. She took a pay cut. Her income didn’t increase as expected.”
“Taxes rose, as did maintenance and homeowners association costs, and she struggled to pay her $750 monthly mortgage. Adams twice put the house up for sale, asking about $113,000.”
“‘I don’t think the wages people make can support a middle-class lifestyle anymore.’”
To afford $750/month she’d have to be making, what, $27k? Are wages really that low for an office manager in PA? I’m guessing association fees on a house worth that much wouldn’t be over $100/month and taxes would be similar.
So, presumably she quit a job making more than $27k and accepted one making poverty-level wages.
How does one borrow $500,000 on a house that (at the peak) was only worth $350,000???
Enough nonsense!
Get government completely out of the housing business
Make bank eat their losses
The home was once worth about $350,000. Nearly $500,000 is owed, according to a sheriff’s sale listing.”
OWS are funny people.
They never blame government. In fact, they want MORE of it.
In the protest statement, Bernard August, of Newark, demanded that all foreclosure sales be stopped until they could be reviewed by a third party and that homeowners be given opportunities to work out payment plans. ‘We demand that the banks that caused the economic crisis which forced people into foreclosure and who were rescued by the people’s money repay that debt directly to the people by helping them stay in their homes,’ August said.”
Partisan loons are funny. They see Jesus in every piece of toast.
And are happy to sell it for a fortune to a Las Vegas casino.
When 2banana become prez - the words “But it’s a great time to buy” will be punishable up to 2 years in prision at hard (real) labor…
Then the wave of foreclosures came. ‘But it’s a great time to buy, though,’ Bowling said. ‘Rates are very low. Financing is apparently available if you’re qualified.’”
“When 2banana become prez - the words “But it’s a great time to buy” will be punishable up to 2 years in prision at hard (real) labor… ”
I thought you wanted less government, not more.
Oh, and unconstitutional.
Is she talking bankers and bureaucrats???
“‘We do get complaints from property owners, really their rental tenants because this situation leads to snakes and rats. …
Thank you for the DC area report. It bears out what I’ve been seeing:
Low-end houses in good neighborhoods are selling well as long as they aren’t trashed.
NoVa is dropping far more slowly than MoCo.
Southern Maryland has always been lower priced because it’s nearer to the hoods, and farther away from the real gov jobs (except for some military). The teacher Gingerich (I pity her her name) would likely pay $270K for the same house in MoCo.
I looked up Port Tobacco. Matt Dowling has a 30 mile commute each way, starting in the sticks and then crossing the Eisenhower beltway bridge over the very wide Potomac. A tri-level house is probably just a split level, nothing to write home about. Port Tobacco looks like Oil City sticks, so 2.5 acres is nothing write home about. I think he overpaid. Matt Dowling says “I’m not seeing any value.” Matt, the “value” is the STABLE JOB.
Frederick MD is McMansion and Garage Mahal heaven. It’s a lousy place to commute from, but a good place to work in. You can commute into Frederick from the sticks while everyone else is commuting down the 270 parking lot to DC.
Berkely County is the panhandle of West Virginia. Oil City, pah it was Oil State, until cheap taxes and huuuuge… tracts o’ land made it into another McMansion heaven for people who want to drive 45 minutes to Dulles Airport (which itself is on the outside of DC area.) IMO there shouldn’t be a HOA anywhere.
Port Tobacco is farther out than Waldorf. Growing up in DC, Waldorf might as well have been in Antarctica. Nobody was driving there for any reason. With current gas prices I can’t see any logic in commuting from there. You must simply *really want* to own a home to move out there and travel over the Wilson bridge every day.
“Chase Magnuson, director of Planned Giving, Real Estate for George Washington University in Washington, D.C., said he was hired two years ago to handle real estate donations to the university from its alumni. The university solicits property donations but only accepts donations where the property will net the university at least $100,000 at the closing, he said. ‘Prior to the downturn people could sell their homes for cash unless they were philanthropically inclined,’ Magnuson said. ‘Things have changed.’”
I used to work in the same kind of office at the University of Arizona. The planned giving people had their space right next to the PR/editorial space where I worked.
Any-hoo, when it came to a planned gift of any sort, those people went over it with a fine-tooth comb. They didn’t take just any old gift. And this was back in the late 1980s/early 1990s. Pretty good times in the AZ economy back then.
I can’t imagine how hard-nosed they’d be now. But I imagine that they’d be very much that way.
I can only imagine how many people have to be told:
“Uh, sorry, your house is mortgaged, so you can’t just make it a charitable gift.”
I’ve seen all sorts of stupidities and that sort would not surprise me. The average American is like a child, today.
Gold went thump yesterday.
Gold extends losses after carnage on Europe woes
Gold and silver bars are pictured at the Austrian Gold and Silver Separating Plant ‘Oegussa’ in Vienna August 26, 2011.
REUTERS/Lisi Niesner
By Rujun Shen
SINGAPORE | Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:32am EST
(Reuters) - Spot gold weakened further on Thursday after dropping 3.5 percent in the previous session, as investors remained nervous about the euro zone debt crisis amid the year-end rush to liquidate positions.
Asian shares retreated and the euro and commodities nursed stinging losses on Thursday, as fears grew that the euro zone debt crisis was spinning out of control after Italy’s borrowing costs hit a new high in the euro era.
The pessimism on the euro zone, as well as the liquidation of positions by funds, plunged spot gold to its lowest level since late September on Wednesday in its third session of bloodshed.
Precious metals with industrial applications, such as silver and platinum, also fell sharply as the economic outlook dims.
“It’s not only because of the stronger dollar, the year-end fund redemption and margin call demand from other markets also contributed to the sell-off,” said a Shanghai-based trader.
“We might see further weakness in prices as the sentiment around Europe remains rather bearish.”
Spot gold lost 0.4 percent to $1,567.84 an ounce by 0613 GMT, after posting its biggest one-day decline in nearly three months in the previous session.
The Relative Strength Index on spot gold dived to below 27, its lowest in more than three years, indicating an oversold market.
U.S. gold lost 1.2 percent to $1,567.6, before trimming some losses to trade at $1,571.
Technical analysis suggested that spot gold could fall further after breaking below the 200-day moving average, a major support line, but the demise of the bull trend is not a foregone conclusion.
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People need to stop converting their real money into that nearly useless metal, gold. The vast majority of gold is mined and then converted into coins and bars, which have no real use. They are only used to con people out of their wealth. That is essentially negative utility; for how it’s “used”, gold is a debit on the balance sheet of Humanity.
For its industrial uses, gold has as a natural market price of about $300/oz, supported mostly by its rarity. That’s it. Everything over that is pure greed by the wealth-destroyers we call “speculators”. Given what gold’s natural market value is, what’s going on now is a massive bubble. It’s worse, percentage-wise, than the housing bubble. What a massive pack of morons is involved in it.
I’m with you BetterRenter. If gold is so valuable and paper money is so worthless, why is it you can buy gold with paper money?
As for Phyllis Adams, couldn’t she have taken in a roommate to help with the mortgage?