January 21, 2012

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2012-01-21 02:02:46

Greetings from India! :P

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-01-21 05:55:13

I’m sure your having a good time. Eat something spicy for me.

Comment by palmetto
2012-01-21 05:56:25

Yes, and be careful of that incurable TB.

Comment by palmetto
2012-01-21 05:58:24

Oops, I meant “drug resistant” TB.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:17:26

Cheers! Eat a delicious vegan dish for my daughter, please…

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-01-21 08:58:53

order it with a side of beef………
yea, that’s what’s for dinner.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:13:27

Be sure to ask everyone you meet if they’re Navaho or Sioux.

Comment by seen it all
2012-01-21 08:53:23

gotta remember that one

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 08:06:13

Enjoy the adventure!

 
Comment by seen it all
2012-01-21 08:51:45

re: india

FPSS, so what’s the feel in the country?
Do you get the impression people around you are rubbing their hands together anticipating all the money they will make? or are they nervous?

I’m listening to BOOMERANG. I’ve seen lots of Michael Lewis’ (author) stuff here on the blog. The new things to me are how profoundly naive the Irish and Icelanders were. Especially their government leaders, but really everybody. new to me: the relative size of the busted loans, iceland has a male-only political party- which effed everything up, greece has a monastary (vado paydee?) that got revitalized by some monks and they built a huge real estate empire; irish bank executives invested heavily in their own institutions and lost- they get catcalls and derisive remarks in public. i knew but had forgotten that “non-recourse loan” is an oxymoron overthere. Wow! Talk about slavery, maybe peonage. There was a post here recently about nascent unrest with the austerity now implemented by the German men who dine alone in Dublin.
wonder where that will go.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:28:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo

My favorite Irishman goes off on “wanking bankers.” (Warning: language).

 
 
Comment by oxide
2012-01-21 08:56:03

Have a good time! This realtor :roll: :roll: :roll: will be waiting for your safe return.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 09:28:30

OMG! You’re a realtor???

 
Comment by SV guy
2012-01-21 17:55:01

Welcome back Oxy.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-01-21 20:25:15

+1 We need ya, sis. The dopes are many, we are few.

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Comment by ahansen
2012-01-21 23:42:53

Good to see you back, Oxy. Don’t punish us all for the sins of the peewww?

;-)

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2012-01-21 09:41:22

Ah, Puss. Bringing new dimension to the term “sub-continent.” ;-)
Don’t leave too big a mess in your wake, okay?

 
Comment by Muggy
2012-01-21 19:54:31

“Greetings from India!”

DO NOT BUY A HOUSE THERE

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:20:52

Perhaps there is cause for hope that free speech on the internet will survive, after all.

Internet uprising shuts down anti-piracy bill
Internet uprising pressures shaken Congress to shelve Hollywood’s anti-piracy bill
By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press
Published 11:36 p.m., Friday, January 20, 2012

WASHINGTON — Caving to a massive campaign by Internet services and their millions of users, Congress indefinitely postponed legislation Friday to stop online piracy of movies and music costing U.S. companies billions of dollars every year. Critics said the bills would result in censorship and stifle Internet innovation.

The demise, at least for the time being, of the anti-piracy bills was a clear victory for Silicon Valley over Hollywood, which has campaigned for a tougher response to online piracy. The legislation also would cover the counterfeiting of drugs and car parts.

Congress’ qualms underscored how Internet users can use their collective might to block those who want to change the system.

The scuttling, for now, of PIPA and SOPA frustrates what might have been one of the few opportunities to move significant legislation in an election year where the two parties have little motivation to cooperate.

Until recently “you would have thought this bill was teed up,” with backing from key Senate leaders and support from powerful interest groups, said Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., who cosponsored the original bill but quickly dropped his backing on the grounds the bill could undermine innovation and Internet freedom.

Moran said the “uprising” of so many people with similar concerns was a “major turnaround, and in my experience it is something that has happened very rarely.”

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:33:22

The larger question is whether this “uprising” was solely due to myopic underemployed man-boys, living in mommy’s basement, playing video games and sharing pirated software and movies, or represents a broader awakening as to the accelerating erosion of basic freedoms and liberties. My money is on the former.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 08:08:41

I loved the comments by the Hollywood money boys. Hey Mr. President, we gave you lots of money and now you are not delivering! No need to even paint the bribery as something else.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2012-01-21 09:03:17

Sammy everyone hates me for bringing it up but it has been my experience and research that is not the manboys that are the problem its being politically correct and never suing black people for the last 15years …remember the famous case of jamie thomas 1701 songs on her HD lives in a town that’s 96% white….so maybe they finally got it, that white people were the targets of these two bills and they got mad.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:35:12

aNYCdj, you can bring up anything you want and it won’t bother me. As someone who respects intellectual property rights, I don’t think it’s ethical to use file sharing to cheat companies that own copyrighted material. However, SOPA was a trojan horse for a broader assault on free expression.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2012-01-21 19:04:45

Those damn black people ruin everything, eh DJ?

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-01-21 20:51:01

especially music

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-01-21 23:45:43

smirk.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 08:00:39

The legislation also would cover the counterfeiting of drugs

Depends on your definition “counterfeit” drugs. If you mean the same stuff as what’s sold here but way cheaper, then yes. They were trying to stop legitimate medication sales from legitimate pharmacies in Canada as well an any real counterfeiting going on (which I haven’t seen). Perhaps the consider some of the generics sold in Canada to be counterfeit.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2012-01-21 06:27:32
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:57:57

I’m missing something. Though that story is fascinating and gross, what does it have to do with anything relevant to economics, housing or even politics which are the usual topics around here?

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:25:40

Because the dead guy used to live in a house?

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-01-21 07:29:55

I would venture to guess that the headless corpses are related to the Mexican drug cartel violence which is creeping into our country, and has been discussed time and again as a threat to national security.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:41:41

Mexican drug cartels: everyone’s favorite bugbear. Hey America, stop spending $40 billion a year on drugs and those cartels will wither on the vine.

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Comment by scdave
2012-01-21 07:52:03

Hey America, stop spending $40 billion a year on drugs and those cartels will wither on the vine ??

Or legalize it and the same thing will happen plus we will save $100 Bil by eliminating the war on drugs….

Let me correct myself…When I say war on drugs I mean on drugs that are classified as illegal because the legal drugs through big Pharma are doing quite well thank you…

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 10:48:54

When I say war on drugs I mean on drugs that are classified as illegal because the legal drugs through big Pharma are doing quite well thank you…

It really should be called the “War BY Drugs”, because big Pharma is the strongest opponent to legalization.

Drugs you can buy from us == good.

Drugs you can grow in your backyard == bad.

Bad for profits.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-01-21 10:59:42

“Mexican drug cartels: everyone’s favorite bugbear. Hey America, stop spending $40 billion a year on drugs and those cartels will wither on the vine.”

Perhaps, then, you will be shocked to learn that human smuggling, to supply cheap labor for your beloved “conservative” corporatist masters, is one of their most lucrative activities.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:37:52

Grizzly, I’m pretty sure you’re the only one in here who thinks I have any fondness for corporatists of any political stripe.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-01-21 15:05:42

Hey America, stop spending $40 billion a year on drugs and those cartels will wither on the vine.

And if we had followed your advice in the 30s, we’d have no mafia- and no liquor, wine, or beer.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 20:22:19

and no liquor, wine, or beer.

Of course we would have liquor, beer, and wine. Demand for those, like hope, springs eternal…

 
 
 
 
Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 08:04:50

Read more carefully. The Hollywood sign built in the 1920s was to promote a housing development. Sign orginally said Hollywoodland. But last four letters deteroriated.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 10:51:01

That’s awesome—I never knew that.

It was detritus from the last housing mania that turned into a cultural icon… Nice. :-)

Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 11:57:57

For an interesting read Wiki-up “hollywood sign”.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:29:17

How is the Fed’s housing bubble reflation program shaping up so far?

The Wall Street Journal
REVIEW & OUTLOOK
JANUARY 11, 2012

The Fed’s Housing Politics
The central bank compromises its independence with rank electioneering.

These columns have defended the independence of the Federal Reserve from attacks on the right and left, but after last week the central bank is on its own. It’s impossible to defend the Fed’s rank electioneering as it lobbies for more political and taxpayer intervention in the housing market—just in time for the election campaign.

This extraordinary political intrusion came in the form of a 26-page paper that the Fed sent to Capitol Hill last Wednesday, without invitation, graciously offering what Chairman Ben Bernanke called a “framework” for “thinking about certain issues and tradeoffs.” He was underselling his document. The paper is a clear attempt to provide intellectual cover for politicians to spend more taxpayer money to support housing prices.

In case there was any doubt on this point, New York Fed President William Dudley put them to rest Friday when he called specifically for bridge loans for jobless borrowers, more government-assisted refinancings, a new program for principal reductions for underwater borrowers, and floated the possibility of getting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the rental housing business. Your average HUD secretary wouldn’t dare go this far.

As America’s central bank, the Fed is responsible for monetary policy and bank regulation. During and since the financial panic, and in the name of preventing a meltdown, the Fed has bought mortgage-backed securities to provide liquidity for housing and keep down mortgage rates. This is a form of credit allocation and should be winding down, though it is at least arguably within the emergency purview of monetary policy.

It is a far different matter to tell Congress and the executive branch that they ought to rescue homeowners who borrowed more than they can afford to repay, or strong-arm banks to loosen credit standards for borrowers, or further entrench government-sponsored enterprises (Fan and Fred) that have already cost taxpayers $142 billion in losses. These are core political questions that belong to elected officials.

The intrusion is especially ill-timed because it looks like an attempt to further isolate Edward DeMarco, Fannie and Freddie’s politically beleaguered regulator. House Republicans have closed off another housing bailout from Congress, so Administration officials and Capitol Hill Democrats are desperate to unleash Fannie and Freddie to spend even more to rescue underwater homeowners.

Their main obstacle is Mr. DeMarco, who has bent a little to accommodate the Treasury’s expanded refinancing program but rightly says he has a legal mandate to protect taxpayers. The Fed white paper acknowledges that committing more taxpayer money to its housing brainstorms could stick Fan and Fred with more losses, but it suggests this is worth promoting a faster housing recovery. How about we put that gamble to a taxpayer vote? In any event, it’s disgraceful for the Fed to contribute to the mau-mauing of a fellow regulator.

The advice to let Fan and Fred rent out foreclosed properties they own until prices rise also goes against the lesson of previous housing recoveries. Prices recover faster—recall the Resolution Trust Corp. after the savings and loan bust—when the government sells property as quickly as possible, so prices can find a bottom. The last thing housing markets need is an extended Fannie and Freddie inventory overhang.

The Fed also suggests having Fan and Fred weaken their standards for loan modifications and expand an existing refinancing program to include private-insurance-backed mortgages participate. But weak lending standards is part of what created the subprime mortgage mess. No wonder the mortgage bankers, the homebuilders and the rest of the housing lobby greeted the Fed’s white paper with enthusiasm. They’d love to see Fannie and Freddie more politically and economically entrenched so reformers can’t slowly reduce their market dominance.

The Fed will no doubt justify all of this by claiming that the larger economy can’t recover until housing does. Yet this confuses cause and effect. Housing recoveries don’t lead economic recoveries; they occur as part of the larger recovery as incomes begin to rise and consumer confidence grows. It’s precisely this “housing must save the day” mentality that caused the Fed to keep interest rates too low for too long after the dot-com bust and 9/11. This promoted the housing bubble and led to the mania and crash. By force-feeding a housing recovery, the Fed is misallocating resources that will make the expansion less durable.

Comment by Montana
2012-01-21 08:54:52

‘bridge loans for jobless borrowers,’

…because the job mkt is going to bounce back any year nmow.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:31:47

The Masters of the Universe ain’t all that…

1/13/12 at 8:14 AM
The Fed Really Couldn’t Comprehend Economics in 2006
By Joe Coscarelli

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, June 22, 2011, before the House Small Business Committee hearing on “The State of Small Business Access to Capital and Credit”. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci) Timothy Geithner.

The problem with private conversations that later become public is that they’re almost always humiliating, because the passage of time brings with it new information that often invalidates past opinions or illuminates old ignorance. For the Federal Reserve, whose 2006 meeting transcripts have been released after a standard five years, it’s all that and more, considering the financial meltdown that followed their talks and the depth of their cluelessness. Despite some signs that the housing market was beginning to crumble, officials showed few signs of concern — actually, they worried that the economy was growing too fast.

The transcripts “clearly show some of the nation’s pre-eminent economic minds did not fully understand the basic mechanics of the economy that they were charged with shepherding,” the New York Times reports. “The problem was not a lack of information; it was a lack of comprehension, born in part of their deep confidence in economic forecasting models that turned out to be broken.”

“We think the fundamentals of the expansion going forward still look good,” said Timothy Geithner, then president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, in December 2006, a few years before he became Treasury secretary. A few months earlier, of the housing market issues, he said, “We just don’t see troubling signs yet of collateral damage, and we are not expecting much.”

Others concurred, and thought maybe the housing slump would actually improve the economy. “I really believe that the drop in housing is actually on net going to make liquidity available for other sectors rather than being a drain going forward, and that will also get the growth rate more positive,” said Fed governor Susan Bies. “Of course, housing is a relatively small sector of the economy, and its decline should be self-correcting,” said another official.

“It’s embarrassing for the Fed,” said an economics professor of the transcripts. “You see an awareness that the housing market is starting to crumble, and you see a lack of awareness of the connection between the housing market and financial markets.”

“It’s also embarrassing for economics,” he added. “My strong guess is that if we had a transcript of any other economist, there would be at least as much fodder.”

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-01-21 10:09:07

Unfortunately for us, these are the same “pre-eminent economic minds” (oxymoron if there ever was one) that are still in control at the FED and the Treasury. That tells me one thing.
This has nothing to do with the economy as it has to do with politics.
In any other world, people who FAILED so miserably to understand what they were doing would be FIRED, and replace with people who made the right calls.
That’s what happens in the ‘real world’, or as the leftists like to call it the Private Sector, as opposed the “government sector”, a euphemism for public “servants”.
It shows us who they really serve, and it ain’t us.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 10:54:57

“pre-eminent economic minds” (oxymoron if there ever was one)

It’s not an oxymoron at all, just mis-applied: their performance proves conclusively that they are NOT the pre-eminent economic minds at all.

The pre-eminent economic minds in my book all hang out on the HBB.

This collective of minds saw what was coming in remarkable detail while the “pros” hadn’t a clue.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 11:06:15

I would think having seemingly-clueless leadership in government economic posts would mesh very well with a Wall Street business model which relies heavily on pulling the wool over the sheeple’s eyes in order to fleece them blind.

“Nobody could have seen it coming!” is a great CYA line if ever there was one.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-01-21 11:50:11

true. but probably more correct: No one who works for us wants to see anything bad coming. Especially true if it is the direct result of the sham policies we have pursued.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:54:39

I don’t think they’re clueless at all. Look at the “former” Goldman Sachs alumni like Paulson and Timmay who have determined our fiscal policies under Bush and his clone, Obama. When they’re done with their “public service” (retch) they’ll go back to Goldman or its Wall Street accomplices and be generously rewarded for carrying out “God’s work” while filling top economic policy posts.

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Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 12:11:18

I don’t think they’re clueless at all.

I dunno, Sammy… Timmay wasn’t even smart enough to sell his own house for what the market would bear when he moved to D.C. It has to be worth far less now. It’s hard for me to believe he would lose big $$$s personally just for the appearance of plausible deniability.

 
 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-01-21 15:18:39

. “The problem was not a lack of information; it was a lack of comprehension, born in part of their deep confidence in economic forecasting models that turned out to be broken.”

B-b-but it was Math! Isn’t Math…The Answer? To Everything?

(If only one of them had ‘wasted their time’ studying history.)

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:40:14

Fed Will Delay Action on Potential ‘QE3′
Jan. 20, 2012

WSJ’s Jon Hilsenrath reports Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke has indicated the Fed will hold off on any new potential rounds of bond purchases to inject cash into the economy, known as quantitative easing. AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:26:54

It is astonishing that any small retail investors at all are still playing in Wall Street’s rigged casino market.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 08:04:22

It’s hard to ignore a nearly 100% runup and continuing relatively steady increase in prices. Even if you’re pretty sure it’s rigged, it’s still tempting to get back in and then try to get out when everybody else does.

Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 08:24:41

The people who feel this way are going to eventually run out of money and the only ones that will be left with money are the ones who don’t feel this way.

Wall Street is running on fumes.

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 09:17:08

I disagree combo. In recent months there were stories about net outflows from equity funds, so there is a lot of money on the sidelines. That’s a positive for stocks. However, within the last couple of weeks I saw a small article in WSJ that those funds were now just beginning to see inflows.

The wildcard is a messy sovereign default in Europe (Greece). That could drop a turd in the punchbowl real quick.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:27:26

“I disagree combo. In recent months there were stories about net outflows from equity funds, so there is a lot of money on the sidelines. That’s a positive for stocks.”

Is that always the case? Because I am guessing there were plenty of net outflows from equity funds circa 1929; how did that work out for stock market investors in the 1930s?

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-01-21 12:20:40

“The people who feel this way are going to eventually run out of money and the only ones that will be left with money are the ones who don’t feel this way.

Wall Street is running on fumes.”

There’s simply no way to tell what is going to happen. We could see another 20% move up in the DOW, or it could start to crater next week. It’s anybody’s guess.

 
Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 12:59:18

“We could see another 20% move up in the DOW …”

This is very true (and it has always been true), but this is short-term thinking. I’m thinking long-term.

IMO the massive global credit expansion we’ve experienced all these years has (finally!) come to an end, which means the long-term trend is down.

Wall Street prospered as a result of this credit expansion, now it will get to experience the downside.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 14:49:07

“…I am guessing there were plenty of net outflows from equity funds circa 1929; how did that work out for stock market investors in the 1930s?”

Actually even the shoeshine boys were putting their money in the market in 1929. It’s only when everyone is “all in” that you have a big crash. Kinda like the housing bubble, where home “ownership” reached its peak and then the bubble popped.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 15:26:18

“circa 1929″ was meant to be interpreted as “during and after the 1929 crash.”

The Great Depression

By Jennifer Rosenberg

“The famous picture of the mother of seven children during the Great Depression.”

Destitute pea pickers in California. Mother of seven children. (Circa February 1936)
(Photo courtesy the National Archives and Records Administration.)

Historical Importance of the Great Depression: The Great Depression, an immense tragedy that placed millions of Americans out of work, was the beginning of government involvement in the economy and in society as a whole.

Dates: 1929 — early 1940s

Overview of the Great Depression:

The Stock Market Crash

After nearly a decade of optimism and prosperity, the United States was thrown into despair on Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929, the day the stock market crashed and the official beginning of the Great Depression. As stock prices plummeted with no hope of recovery, panic struck. Masses and masses of people tried to sell their stock, but no one was buying. The stock market, which had appeared to be the surest way to become rich, quickly became the path to bankruptcy.

 
Comment by rms
2012-01-21 17:18:40

The Great Depression
By Jennifer Rosenberg

“Even before the dust storms hit, the invention of the tractor drastically cut the need for manpower on farms.”

Remotely managed infrastructure via computer systems (scada) are inducing similar labor effects today.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 20:30:52

Coming soon: C3PO and his brothers taking your order and preparing the food at Mickey D’s, a large device with articulated arms that vaguely resembles a fork lift working with patients in hospitals and nursing homes, factories with just one human employee to service the bots that do all the work, autonomous UAVs that don’t need a pimple-faced kid controlling a joystick.

Wired Magazine often publishes lists of tech things that are out (out) and the things that are the replacements (in). Here’s my contribution to their next list.
OUT: Out-sourcing. IN: Droid-sourcing.

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-01-22 00:00:22

Agreed, BC,

Last year I got a SBIR/DoD solicitation offering a wide array of grants (several pages worth,) specifically for robotics with applicability to rest homes and veteran’s care, as well as for the software to run it.

Doesn’t bode well for the strawberry pickers and home care specialists.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 09:20:08

Look at the anemic volumes. The only thing driving this low-volume melt-up is HFT trading and cluess momo chasers at hedge and pension funds, chasing every rumor of bailouts and QE 3. This won’t end well, although Ben and the Fed are doing their damnest to keep the Ponzi going.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:31:50

“…every rumor of bailouts and QE 3.”

Here is a “rumor” to encourage the Fed’s QE cargo cult members. There has never been a better time for investment banks to load up on sh!tty assets, such as subprime mortgage backed securities.

QE3 May Come in April, Credit Suisse’s Jersey Says: Tom Keene
By Austen Sherman and Tom Keene - Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM PT

The Federal Reserve may implement a third round of quantitative easing this spring to bolster the economy, according to Credit Suisse Group AG’s Ira Jersey.

“We do think the Fed is going to do another round of asset purchases later in the quarter, probably aiming for April,” Jersey, director of U.S. rates strategy at Credit Suisse in New York, said today in a radio interview on “Bloomberg Surveillance” with Tom Keene and Ken Prewitt. “We are growing, we just don’t feel prosperous. It is a part of the job of the Fed to assure prosperity, one of the ways to do that is to kick- start housing,”

The policy-making Federal Open Market Committee meets Jan. 24-25. The central bank is forecast to keep its target for the federal funds rate at zero to 0.25 percent. The target has been at that level since December 2008 and the Fed has pledge to keep it there until mid-2013.

The central bank has purchased $2.3 trillion of mortgage and government bonds in two rounds of so-called QE. In September, it announced plans to sell $400 billion of short-term debt and use the proceeds to buy an equal amount of longer- maturity securities, in a program as nicknamed Operation Twist after a similar action in 1961 designed to contain borrowing costs for companies and consumers.

Round Three

Jersey said a third stimulus effort may be more focused toward the housing market and buying mortgage-backed securities.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 10:58:12

It is a part of the job of the Fed to assure prosperity,

Actually, I don’t recall that being a part of their dual-mandate.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 11:07:28

“…a part of their dual-mandate.”

I take the impression they are making up their mandate on the fly these days…

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:42:28

The Fed’s sole purpose is to faciliate the looting and swindles of its Primary Dealer accomplices. If that means transferring trillions in toxic waste morgages and gambling debts off the bankster books and foisting them off on taxpayers, in the guise of “propping up the housing market,” then that’s what the Fed will do.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 15:00:43

Did I mention the Fed is privately owned?

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:43:32

Franklin Raines, Ghost Defendant
Posted 01/20/2012 07:17 PM ET

Subprime Scandal: Obama adviser Franklin Raines is glaringly absent from an SEC lawsuit against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives for defrauding investors. How convenient.

Raines first plunged Fannie into the subprime abyss as its chairman and chief executive from 1999 to 2005 while cooking the mortgage giant’s books to score fatter bonuses for himself and other Democrats on its board.

In its complaint against Fannie, however, the Obama administration covers only the period from 2006 to 2008 and names Raines’ successor and former protege, Daniel Mudd, as the main defendant. Raines is nowhere to be found in the SEC’s 60-page court filing.

Instead, Mudd and two of his top aides are accused of covering up the full extent of Fannie’s subprime exposure. But that exposure and cover-up began under Raines, who rolled out Fannie’s first subprime mortgage line, known as Expanded Approval.

The program let Fannie’s customers rubberstamp borrowers who would have been formerly classified as “Refer with Caution” by Fannie’s automated underwriting system.

Raines had Fannie buy billions of dollars worth of the risky mortgages, which were described in internal emails as “clearly subprime,” to meet “affordable housing” quotas set by HUD. In May 2001, Mudd wrote a memo to his boss warning that EA loans “are the highest default risk loans we have ever done.”

It was also under Raines that Fannie partnered with Countrywide Financial to buy, in increasing volumes, the subprime lender’s Fast & Easy no-documentation mortgages. These loans were specifically targeted toward borrowers with weaker credit histories.

When these high-risk loans started defaulting by the mid-2000s, Fannie did not include them in its portfolio disclosures to Wall Street. It claimed a fraction of the subprime exposure it actually had.

But Fannie’s mission regulators in Washington were perfectly aware of the subprime exposure. After all, it was HUD that set them on that dangerous path in 2000 when it raised the affordable-home loan target to fully 50% of total mortgage holdings — and demanded Fannie specifically load up on subprime home loans to meet the higher target.

The new policy remained in effect through late 2004, when Raines was forced to resign under an ethical cloud, and beyond.

Raines, who was appointed to Fannie’s board by President Clinton, coordinated the reckless foray into subprime with former HUD chief Andrew Cuomo, who announced the new goals in 2000, explaining:

Fannie’s and Freddie’s “expanded presence in the subprime market could be of significant benefit to lower-income families, minorities and families living in underserved areas.”

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:23:44

Fannie’s and Freddie’s “expanded presence in the subprime market could be of significant benefit to lower-income families, minorities and families living in underserved areas.”

Translation: votes-for-entitlements will ensure a Democrat majority.

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-01-21 11:47:39

What’s really amazing, though, is with all the talk of “OCCUPY WALL STREET”, he hear no mention of this Crook and how he lied, cheated and stole money from the Government, i.e. us.
He works for OBAMA. Gets another government crony job for his cover-up work. It’s the height of hypocrisy.
I’ve been railing against this scum-bag for over 5 years, hoping, somehow, somewhere JUSTICE would be served.
Won’t happen. And the whiners at Occupy will blame Wallstreet, not OBama.

 
Comment by rms
2012-01-21 17:24:24

Franklin Raines

This guy enjoys a $125,000.00/month retirement package on top of lifetime health care insurance with dental and vision, and this includes his wife’s lifetime too.

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-01-22 00:08:44

“could be…”

of significant benefit to lower-income families, minorities and families living in underserved areas.”

Instead the majority of non-performing loans went to second and “investment” homemoaners, with the default rate 27% lower for CRA loans than the average. But we’ve discussed that here many times already.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:46:21

Gov. Jerry Brown urges Obama to appoint new housing regulator
January 16, 2012 | 3:18 pm

Then-California Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown gives a speech at the Moving America Forward rally on the USC campus Oct. 21, 2010

Joining California’s congressional Democrats, Gov. Jerry Brown is calling on President Obama to appoint a new federal housing regulator, saying the acting director is “hindering California’s economic recovery and harming state efforts to promote clean energy.”

In a letter to the White House last week, Brown echoed the concerns of more than two dozen House Democrats, arguing that the Federal Housing Finance Authority under Acting Director Edward DeMarco has “ignored” the Golden State’s foreclosure crisis by “failing to exercise its full authority over residential mortgages underwritten by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” the housing finance agencies seized by the government in September 2008 as mortgage losses mounted.

According to Reuters, DeMarco, who has never been selected as the FHFA’S permanent director, has argued that the roughly $169 billion in taxpayer-funded support paid out to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was meant to get them back on their feet, not to provide relief to the housing market.

Brown also said DeMarco had “completely sabotaged” the Property Assessed Clean Energy program, which encouraged homeowners to use bond-backed property tax assessments to install solar panels and make insulation improvements. The program, suspended in 2010, “could be delivering tens of thousands of jobs in communities throughout America,” Brown wrote.

As California’s attorney general, Brown tried to restart the stalled program by suing the FHFA two years ago.

In his letter last week, the governor asked Obama to appoint a permanent director “who will truly represent your policies.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:50:45

This article reminds me of a doctor who mistakes severe constipation for a sign of recovery from a disease whose symptoms include diarrhea.

January 19, 2012, 1:46 PM
Housing Inventory Ends Year Down 22%
By Nick Timiraos

There were fewer homes listed for sale at the end of 2011 than in any of the previous four years, a positive sign for the housing sector.

But appearances can be deceiving, and it remains to be seen whether the drop is the beginning of a real recovery or if inventory is being held down by sellers waiting for prices to pick up and banks moving slowly on foreclosures.

The 1.89 million homes on the market at the end of December represented a 6% decline from November and a 22.3% decline from one year ago, according to data compiled by Realtor.com.

Low inventories are an important ingredient for any housing recovery because prices could firm up in markets that have worked through their inventory.

Still, some real-estate agents aren’t celebrating because there’s a large backlog of potential foreclosures that haven’t yet been taken back and listed by banks. The inventory declines are particularly pronounced in certain states where banks have sharply slowed down foreclosures to correct document-handling abuses.

Moreover, some sellers have pulled their homes off the market to wait for a turn in prices, and that “pent up” demand from sellers could keep inventories higher once prices do rise.

Inventories were down for the year in all but one of the 145 markets tracked by Realtor.com, with Springfield, Ill., posting the only year-over-year inventory gain. The largest declines were recorded in Miami (-49.7%), Phoenix (-49.1%), and Bakersfield, Calif. (-46.6%).

Comment by scdave
2012-01-21 07:31:04

There were fewer homes listed for sale ??

Inventory of Single Family Homes is 1/2 of what it was 6 months ago in this zip…95050-95054….

Comment by Awaiting
2012-01-21 08:11:08

In So Ca’s east Ventura County there is almost nothing for sale in our price range. You have the first day on market to decide if you want to make an offer on a one-story fairly decent home. The prices are still too high for incomes and property condition.It’s depressing.

Comment by bharatpremi
2012-01-21 18:06:07

hi awaiting
I lurk here all the time
I live in your area.
I;ve started out venturing into looking for SFR upto400K, 1500-2000sqft 3+ BR.
I see many REOs in 410-450 range. Thinking of offering 350-375K
Did you ever make an offer?

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 23:27:59

“I see many REOs in 410-450 range. Thinking of offering 350-375K”

That’s where we are headed in North County San Diego. Keep us posted on how the lowball offers pan out, as I think we could swing something similar.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 06:53:58

Next up in the slowest market collapse ever on record:
Accelerating home sales accompanied by sliding prices.

Bargain prices may hurt housing market
Ohio follows trend of distressed areas, where growth is sluggish.

The troubled real estate market contributes to a slow economic turnaround, said Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics, a suburban Cleveland-based firm specializing in economic research and forecasting.

By Randy Tucker, Staff Writer Updated 10:57 PM Friday, January 20, 2012

Ohio last year posted its first gain in single-family home sales since 2005, but until the inventory of distressed properties is cleared, a quick recovery in the housing market remains unlikely, an economic researcher said.

The troubled real estate market also contributes to a slow economic turnaround, said Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics, a suburban Cleveland-based firm specializing in economic research and forecasting.

“Many mortgages are seriously delinquent and soon will default or come close to defaulting,” Mayland said. “It’s going to take awhile for us to clear that overhang, and that means housing as a contributor to the economy’s recovery and job generation is going to be very, very much on the light side.”

Total home sales in Ohio rose 0.1 percent to 99,881 last year compared with 2010, according to figures released Friday by the Ohio Association of Realtors.

But average sales prices fell by 3.6 percent to $127,838 for Ohio and 5 percent to $115,891 in the Dayton area, according to state and local Realtors associations. Sales fell 2.7 percent in the Dayton area to 10,463 homes.

Experts say the trends reflect bargain-hunting in distressed markets, where deeply discounted foreclosures and short-sales stimulate sales but push down home prices.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-21 06:59:11

“The Florida banking industry has returned to profitability, and bad loans have subsided, and that’s why you’ve seen fewer failures.”

I wonder if any of the mortgages the Federal Reserve purchased were from Florida? Nah couldn`t be.

Failures of Florida banks slowed in 2011

By Jeff Ostrowski
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 7:15 p.m. Friday, Jan. 20, 2012

Failures of Florida banks slowed in 2011, a welcome respite for the state’s financial industry and for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.’s beleaguered insurance fund.

The number of failures of Florida-based banks peaked at 29 in 2010, then fell to 13 last year.

In a more dramatic decline, the total cost of Florida bank failures fell from $2.4 billion in 2010 to $619 million in 2011, according to a Palm Beach Post analysis of FDIC data.

“I wouldn’t paint too rosy a picture for Florida, but there is improvement,” said Gene Kirsch, senior banking analyst at Weiss Ratings in Jupiter.

“The Florida banking industry has returned to profitability, and bad loans have subsided, and that’s why you’ve seen fewer failures.”

Florida’s banking industry returned to profitability in 2011 for the first time since 2007, Kirsch said. However, Florida banks remain less profitable than the national average, and they continue to carry more bad loans.

“Our banks are a reflection of the economy,” said Alex Sanchez, president of the Florida Bankers Association. “We’re hopefully getting to the end of this.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/failures-of-florida-banks-slowed-in-2011-2114926.html - 75k

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:28:17

Bear Stearns and Lehman both announced healthy profits and a rosy outlook in the quarters before they crashed and burned to the toxic mortgages on their books.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 07:01:40

Eurozone to suffer recession in 2012 - report
1/20/2012 5:58:00 PM | Kuwait News
تصغير الخطتكبير الخط
Kuwait Finance House

KUWAIT, Jan 20 (KUNA) — The European Central Bank (ECB) is expected to continue its tough policy after the latest drop in the rates of interest on the euro, as a result of the uncertainty and looming economic risks that pose a threat to most countries in the euro region, a specialized economic report showed Friday.

The report, issued by Kuwait Finance House’s Research Department, pointed out that further drops are expected on the interest rate of the euro, where the ECB is expected to resort to a further shedding of interest rates by 25 points during the first quarter of this year.
It also forecasts that the euro zone will enter total recession this year in light of the current unfavorable conditions that were topped by Standard Poor’s downgrading of sovereign debts for European countries.
As widely expected, the European Central Bank (ECB) left its key interest rate on hold at 1.00 percent during its council meeting on 12 January 2012- the first monetary policy decision of the New Year. The Bank also left the rate of the deposit facility unchanged at 0.25 percent, just as the rate on the marginal lending facility remained at 1.75 percent.

The report added that no further non-conventional measures had been announced this time around. We believe that the bank would to see the effectiveness of the previous measures to funding in the banking system before making any moves.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 07:03:53

Greek talks continue despite creditors ‘leaving Athens’
Crunch talks to thrash out how big a haircut Greece’s private bondholders can withstand are set to continue despite representatives of the creditors reportedly leaving Athens.

Greek Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos leaves Maximou mansion
after a meeting with Charles Dallara and Jean Lemiere from the Institute of International Finance on Friday. Photo: AP
Rachel Cooper

By Rachel Cooper, and agencies
1:51PM GMT 21 Jan 2012

Greece’s finance minister Evangelos Venizelos said that negotiations would continue on Saturday after a four-and-a-half hour meeting with officials broke up in the early hours of the morning.

But at lunchtime on Saturday, there were reports that representatives of Greece’s private creditors had left Athens unexpectedly without a deal on the debt swap plan that is vital to avert a disorderly default.

Charles Dallara, managing director of the Institute of International Finance, a Washington-based lobby group representing creditors negotiating with the government, was said to have flown to Paris. Jean Lemierre, special adviser to the chairman, was also thought to have left for the French capital.

Negotiations will continue over the phone, but it is thought to be unlikely that an agreement can be clinched before next week.

Athens is anxious to strike a deal with its creditors before a meeting on Monday of eurozone finance ministers, just in time to set in motion the paperwork and approvals necessary to receive the next tranche of aid and avoid a messy bankruptcy in March when it faces €14.5bn of bond repayments.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:21:37

Let’s say a Greek default is averted by a “voluntary” haircut of 60% or more. The ECB, World Bank, and Fed, and of course the corporatist MSM, will shout their “crisis contained” mantra to the stars. Meanwhile, all the other PIIGS that settled their debts on less advantageous terms will suddenly discover that their financial situations are more dire than previously believed, and they, too, will press for Greek-like concessions (blackmail). At at that point, the EU house of cards will start trembling like a leaf in a hurricane. The only question is whether the combined efforts of the globalists will mask the extent of the systemic financial deterioration until after the US elections, when the sheeple will once again give a statist, corporatist figurehead a mandate to launch massive new bailouts of the banksters by pushing Zimbabwe Ben’s printing press into hyperdrive. (Holy run-on sentence, Batman!)

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:54:31

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-20/finnish-euro-skeptics-gird-for-backlash-in-presidential-vote.html

It looks like Finnish voters, like their U.S. counterparts in 2008, are going to vote in favor of leaving their economy in the hands of the globalists and bankers. However, if the anti-Euro candidates have an unexpectedly strong showing, it could throw a tremor into European markets, as it would imply that the more responsible northern Europeans are starting to draw the line at endlessly bailing out their profligate southern neighbors.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 07:06:46

It’s great to see the MSM has moved on past the question of whether the Chinese economy lives in a bubble to important related issues, such as where the bubble originated.

Jan. 20, 2012, 12:01 a.m. EST
China’s stock bubble was made in the U.S.A.
Commentary: Eager investors bought first and asked questions too late
By Junheng Li

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — When a hot investment theme feeds on investor greed, ignorance and laziness — and is further inflated by unscrupulous, opportunistic investment banks — ugly things tend to happen, as U.S. investors in Chinese stocks are learning.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:38:12

The average Chinese citizen is being hit hard by food and energy inflation spurred by the flood of hot-money speculative inflows due to the tsunami of greenbacks unleashed by Zimbabwe Ben to pump more liquidity into the banking system and keep the Wall Street confidence game going until after the elections. The dollar being a reserve currency has shielded Americans from the true costs of the Fed’s fiscal profligacy - but in Asia and the Middle East they’re feeling it full force.

 
Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 07:53:29

Hey, it was a mania, and now it’s ending.

And just like other manias, when it ends a lot of money vanishes, as in poof.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:57:17

You underestimate the staying power of the Fed’s printing press.

Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 08:16:02

Oh, then - what? - we shouldn’t be concerned because the Fed has the ability to save us?

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Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 08:16:12

The Fed can print it but who will borrow it? The government? Will we get to where all significant spending is government spending?

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 08:40:22

Not unless they can keep it from view. The Fed deficit is a nice attempt, but way less than the private borrowing that fueled the Great Credit Expansion.

 
Comment by drumminj
2012-01-21 09:04:06

The Fed can print it but who will borrow it? The government?

That’s what seems to have been happening the past year or so, no?

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 09:21:52

“Will we get to where all significant spending is government spending?”

If the current administration has its way, yes.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:12:14

In interesting example of how the corporatist-owned MSM attempts to consign a major but inconvenient news story to the memory hole is thwarted by more than a million visitors who logged onto the RT site to get the real story on the Megaupload shutdown. It is truly pathetic that Americans who desire real news and real truth have to seek it out from foreign media or blogs rather than our major media outlets. It’s encouraging, of course, that a small but growing number of non-sheep are actively taking responsibility for informing themselves and thinking for themselves, rather than parking in bovine complacency in front of their Tee Vee a la Obama Zombies or McCain Mutants to take in Ministry of Truth corporatist propaganda or “soft news” about Lindsey Lohan, et al.

https://rt.com/usa/news/rt-megaupload-anonymous-online-317/

Over one million unique visitors logged on to RT.com in the last 24 hours, and while we can’t say that a particularly well-crafted headline or social media campaign got us that far, we do have an idea how it happened.

At RT, we suspect that the recent surge in traffic has something to do with us serving as the only major news source following the biggest story of the day.

On Thursday afternoon, news broke that some of the biggest websites belonging to the US government and the entertainment industry were collapsing, one-by-one. The action, retaliation for a raid earlier that day on the file sharing service Megaupload, escalated over the course of hours and eventually crippled the websites for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the US Justice Department and the Recording Industry Associate of America, among others.

But even if you weren’t trying to get a job with the FBI, browsing case records or checking sales stats on the new Justin Bieber EP, you might not know that several major entertainment and government websites were shut down.

That’s because even though thousands of hacktivists attacked the websites for the FBI, the US Copyright office, the DoJ and the RIAA — along with several other related sites — on Thursday, the mainstream media by and large were blind to a massive campaign launched by some very angry users of the World Wide Web.

The mainstream media did cover, to a degree, an early Thursday raid on the website Megaupload, a crackdown that involved arresting several affiliated persons for their role in what US authorities say was a massive conspiracy that raked in millions of dollars, robbed the entertainment world of potentially billions and violated an entire slew of copyright laws. The aftermath, however, an online attack launched at both the Hollywood and Washington DC entities responsible for the raid — went unnoticed.

That is, of course, except for on RT.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:15:19

Screw the crony capitalistic MSM, and anyone who wants to eliminate free American’s First Amendment rights to inform themselves without the help of Rupert Murcdoch or the Kochtopus.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2012-01-21 10:46:48

more than a million visitors who logged onto the RT site to get the real story on the Megaupload shutdown.

Interesting and true. Trying to find coverage yesterday I was led to the RT site and hardly any MSM ones.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:46:41

I think the only way MSM news sites get any traffic at all is due to people wanting the view reader comments, which are almost always more informative and insightful than the PC drek spewed by talentless corporatist hacks. One hopes that people like you who made their way to the RT site will keep returning, rather than patronizing Pravda-like MSM propaganda outlets.

 
Comment by oxide
Comment by measton
2012-01-21 15:34:52

I liked the last part

and the timing is pretty interesting. And there’s a lot of people who are bringing up questions as to why the Justice Department, if they were investigating this for more than a couple years, it appears, why are they bringing out their indictment right now, especially when it looks like two bills were really under siege by the Internet community?

So there’s a lot of — there’s a lot of suspicion around the timing of this. But these are two — one should keep in mind that these are two discreet issues. There’s the federal indictment of a criminal case, and then there are the two bills right now that are being proposed on the Hill that I should say actually have been on hold, today were put on hold because of all the controversy around them.

If anything this suggests that we can accomplish enforcing the law without the draconian measures that are being pushed through congress. I’m not sure it increases the awareness that there are people pirating movies and music as I think everyone already knows this. If there are criminals arrest them and take them to court.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 07:12:40

Apparently, the U.S. housing market is not the only industry in the globalized economy which is currently suffering from an inventory glut.

Shipping Index Drops Below 1,000 for First Time Since 2009 on China Demand
By Michelle Wiese Bockmann - Jan 17, 2012 7:09 AM PT

The Baltic Dry Index, a measure of commodity shipping costs, fell below 1,000 points for the first time since January 2009 on signs Chinese demand for iron ore cargoes is slowing, exacerbating a glut of vessels.

The index slid for a 20th session to 974 points, extending this year’s slump to 44 percent, data from the London-based Baltic Exchange show. Charter rates fell for all four vessel types within the gauge. The largest decline was for capesizes carrying the steelmaking raw material, which fell 8.3 percent.

Weakening demand for iron ore in China, the biggest consumer, is resulting in fewer charters of the vessels, said Kasper Moller, director of shipbroker Maersk Broker Asia. Capesizes represent about 40 percent of the global fleet of commodity carriers, estimates Clarkson Plc, the world’s largest shipbroker.

“If the Chinese market just takes its foot off the accelerator for a second that has an immediate impact,” Moller said by phone from Beijing today. “We’re having a lot of new ships being delivered, too.”

China, the biggest source of global shipping demand, is slowing iron ore imports before Lunar New Year holidays that start on Jan. 23, Oslo-based RS Platou Markets AS said yesterday. Weather-related port disruption curbed shipments from Australia and Brazil while rains in Colombia and Indonesia have constrained coal exports.

The slowdown coincides with deliveries of new ships that are expanding faster than demand, according to Maersk Broker. Trade will swell 8 percent this year compared with 12 percent for the fleet, it estimates.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 09:26:36

Gosh, supply and demand. Shipping up 8 percent but capacity up 12 percent.

For the moment customers can tell shippers, “It’s limbo time. How low can you go?” Of course such imbalances ultimately get corrected.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:34:29

“Of course such imbalances ultimately get corrected.”

In the long run we are all dead.

– John Maynard Keynes

 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 12:03:49

Hey GS, after seeing your post related to the Baltic Dry the other day, I spent some time looking at the data and have a somewhat different take on this.

Take a long look at the 5-yr chart. Over the period of those years, the Baltic Dry has a very cyclic, periodic tick-tock seasonal pattern to it. It always seems to decline from roughly Nov thru end-Jan, and the amount of the decline reported here is not atypical compared to the historical declines.

The surprising behavior to me, when looking at the chart, is the rest of the past year. The typical Feb thru May run-up is missing; the typical May through Sept decline is missing; the Sept through Nov run-up is missing.

The whole of 2011 looks VERY atypical, IMHO.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 13:43:31

Having a bias towards a bearish perspective, then aspects of BDI price moves that grabbed me were the 95%+ decline in the index since the peak a few years ago, with no appreciable subsequent recovery, and the 50% decline since just over a month ago. This sucker has gone and is going down, and it most likely indicates depressionary conditions in China’s dry bulk shipping industry.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 07:14:58

So long as the U.S. stock market keeps on rallying the way it has so far in 2012, I see nothing to worry about here.

WSJ Blogs
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Real-time updates and analysis of Europe’s debt crisis

January 18, 2012, 7:43 AM

Baltic Dry Index Falls to 2009 Levels

The Baltic Dry Index is collapsing again.

This composite of commodity shipping costs has fallen below the 1000 level for the first time since January 2009. Moreover, it’s been down for 20 successive sessions and is having a dismal 2012, having shed 44% already.

Now, of course, this raises the Ghost of Crises Past. For the BDI also leapt off a cliff back in 2008. From an astonishing peak of 11,793 in May, it had plunged 94%, to 663, by December 3. This was a horribly clear sign that the financial crisis had come raging out of the trading rooms to throttle global trade and the credit on which it depended. And our 20:20 hindsight glasses tell us that, in effect, the index was carrying around more than 11,000 points’ worth of groundless optimism at that peak. So much for the wisdom of markets.

So, what’s different now? Why is this latest swoon confined to shipping journals rather than rampant on mainstream front pages.

Well, Sigmund Freud is said to have once trumped those who endlessly search for deeper meaning by pointing out that ‘sometimes a cigar is only a cigar’. In a similar vein, sometimes a shipping price index just tells us about shipping.

And there are rather a lot of ships.

Shipowners were no more immune to pre-crisis irrational exuberance than anyone else. So, sure enough, they ordered a vast fleet, fit for the gleaming future so assured before credit crunched.

Well, you know what happened next. However, building and delivering ships takes a long time so what we have, it seems, is a pre-crisis global fleet for a post-crisis global economy.

It was reported at the start of last year that, if all the vessels due for delivery in 2011 could sail bow to stern, the line would stretch for more than 30 miles. There will have been cancellations and mothballing since, but Maersk Brokers still forecasts that trade will increase by 8% this year, compared with a 12% increase in the fleet.

Of course, you can’t talk about shipping for long these days without talking about China. And the price of hiring Capesize vessels, the key ships taking iron ore there, has led the overall BDI decline.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 07:44:15

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=BDIY:IND

Fear not, sheep. All is well. Nothing to see; move along. CBNC would alert you if this was cause for concern. Jamie Dimon and Lloyd Blankfein have assured marks, er, “investors” that the markets will see a recovery this year.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:24:08

BDI levels
Oct 13, 2011 = 2,173.0
Jan 19, 2012 = 862.0

Elapsed days
October (31-13) = 18
November 30
December 31
January 19
Total = 98

Annualized right of change since recent peak:

((862.0/2,173.0)^(365/98)-1)*100 = -96.8%.

That’s a pretty steep rate of decline, folks! It is right in line with the drop in the dollar relative to gold, except it took four decades for gold to drop by 97% against the dollar; by contrast, only one year’s rate of decline would suffice to knock another 97% off the BDI at the recent rate of decline. (Note that I am merely using this to compare relative rates of decline; not trying to predict anything here…)

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:25:59

“rate of change”

Never type when a 12-year-old is hounding you to turn on his computer…

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Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 07:36:51

Hi. When peoplle talk about deleveraging is ti businesses or more the economy htat is deleveraging? And it is it deleveraging from the debt or easy credit? What the proper use of the term(s)? Thanks.

 
Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 07:38:33

More inflation (not)
The Dawn of Lower Pay on Wall Street (NYT, 21 Jan)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/business/a-new-era-of-lower-pay-on-wall-street-common-sense.html?_r=1&hp

Comment by combotechie
2012-01-21 08:10:20

What the Great Credit Expansion giveth this Great Credit Contraction is yanking away.

What a surprise!

Just as it happens at the end of other booms those who set their hearts (and careers, and money to finance these careers) on the continuation of the financial boom are hosed. Now, instead of going into finance so as to get insanely rich doing deals and other non-productive endeavors, these folks will be forced to focus their attention and talent in areas that are a bit more productive.

Bad for them, at least in the short term, but good for all of us in the long term.

Plus a vital message is being sent to the college-bound younger set.

See? It’s all good.

 
 
Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 07:47:57

A few days I wrote to someone looking Wash, DC that prices might not drop as quickly as she would like but one would get more house for the same price. That is happening here (suburban Boston) as the spring inventory hits the market. The new inventory gets better and better while the overpriced just sits and looks almost laughable. The contrast in pricing gets more stark all the time. There are some houses that have been for sale for two years with an occassional price drop of a whopping 1% or 2% and total price drop of 5% to 10%.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 08:00:05

I take great delight in e-mailing the listing realtors of homes that have been on the market for 200+ days with only piddling reductions, asking them if they actually intend to price the house to sell at some point, or are content to market it indefinitely.

Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 08:12:53

What’s the best response you’ve gotten?

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 09:21:56

I’ve never gotten a response.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 09:39:32

“…prices might not drop as quickly as she would like but one would get more house for the same price…”

That does not compute. The only way one can get more house for the same price is if prices drop. And “prices … drop quickly” compared to “get more house for the same price” is apples to oranges, as the first part of the sentence refers to a rate of price decline, while the second refers to the amount of decline without reference to rate.

Realtor-speak is very confusing!

Comment by Anon In DC
2012-01-21 15:47:51

Oh, yes see your point. Not my intention to speak realtorese.

 
 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 08:04:03

Timmy’s “medium” coffee is suddenly a lot larger in Canada. You might think you’re getting something for nothing, but actually you are getting more than you asked for and paying for every bit. They simply changed the name of the “large” size to “medium”. You still pay the “large” price. Biggie sized without being asked. Brilliant!

They got me on that one, once.

On the short sale “deal” I mentioned here a while back: The bank actually never returned a document that they would go through with the short sale, merely gave a verbal indication that we should continue forward with preparations for a closing. Lawyer advises me that this gives the bank the option to jack the price days before the closing. He has seen it happen. Meanwhile, there appears to be a second that we weren’t informed about that needs to be discharged. Just to top things off, the bank is not picking up the seller’s expenses other than paying the Realtor commission, and poor Mr. FF (Failed Flipper) has no “means”.

Do I have the means to pay seller’s expenses, the Realtor askes, because Mr. FF only makes 200/wk and isn’t getting any proceeds from the sale. Lawyer asks me how much I want this property, becasue it could cost a bundle for him to handle all the seller’s legal fees, and me paying for title abstract, discharge of the second, survey and all……

You all can figure where this goes.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-01-21 12:25:42

Stand your ground, Blue Skye!

If the bank really wants to sell, they will allow for the seller’s expenses to be taken out of their proceeds… I have seen it happen…

They are trying to decrease their loss at your expense.

 
 
Comment by Mike in Carlsbad
2012-01-21 08:25:22

NYT has an article on “Bill from Tampa” types - We’ve got it all wrong with the 1%, its the mobile workers who are making the bucks:

For the last 20 years — from the end of the cold war through two burst bubbles in a single decade — the U.S. has been casting about for its next economic narrative. And now it is experiencing another period of panic, which is bad news for much of the work force but particularly for its youngest members. The U.S. has always been a remarkably itinerant country, but new data from the Census Bureau indicate that mobility has reached its lowest level in recorded history. Sure, some people are stuck in homes valued at less than their mortgages, but many young people — who don’t own homes and don’t yet have families — are staying put, too. This suggests, among other things, that people aren’t packing up for new economic opportunities the way they used to. Rather than dividing the country into the 1 percenters versus everyone else, the split in our economy is really between two other classes: the mobile and immobile.

Part of the problem is that the country’s largest industries are in decline. In the past, it was perfectly clear where young people should go for work (Chicago in the 1870s, Detroit in the 1910s, Houston in the 1970s) and, more or less, what they’d be doing when they got there (killing steer, building cars, selling oil). And these industries were large enough to offer jobs to each class of worker, from unskilled laborer to manager or engineer. Today, the few bright spots in our economy are relatively small (though some promise future growth) and decentralized. There are great jobs in Silicon Valley, in the biotech research capitals of Boston and Raleigh-Durham and in advanced manufacturing plants along the southern I-85 corridor. These companies recruit all over the country and the globe for workers with specific abilities. (You don’t need to be the next Mark Zuckerberg to get a job in one of the microhubs, by the way. But you will almost certainly need at least a B.A. in computer science or a year or two at a technical school.) This newer, select job market is national, and it offers members of the mobile class competitive salaries and higher bargaining power.

Many members of the immobile class, on the other hand, live in the America of the grim headlines. If you have no specialized skills, there’s little reason to uproot to another state and be the last in line for a low-paying job at a new auto plant or a burgeoning green-energy cluster. The surprise in the census data, however, is that the immobile work force is not limited to unskilled workers. In fact, many have a college degree.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 09:04:31

people aren’t packing up for new economic opportunities the way they used to.

Yeah, but then he goes on to say that those opportunities don’t exist for most people anyway. People will move for real opportunity. People won’t move far away from safety nets for a situation that’s not much better than their current situation.

Code geeks and the like are a small minority.

Comment by MightyMike
2012-01-21 14:25:52

That’s the important point. The article is irrelevant to for the vast majority of the population. Also, we’re not facing a regional recession, we’re facing a national recession. The whole article is pretty useless.

 
 
Comment by drumminj
2012-01-21 09:15:27

Many members of the immobile class, on the other hand, live in the America of the grim headlines. If you have no specialized skills, there’s little reason to uproot to another state and be the last in line for a low-paying job at a new auto plant or a burgeoning green-energy cluster. The surprise in the census data, however, is that the immobile work force is not limited to unskilled workers. In fact, many have a college degree.

It sounds like its a questions of decisions one has made, then. The cause of immobility is often self-inflicted. A non-marketable degree, buying a house you can’t afford to sell, having a family.

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:47:53

Bingo.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 13:22:12

If the first two criteria are satisfied, the third is not a barrier.

 
Comment by Darrell_in_PHX
2012-01-21 14:50:17

Yeah, self-inflected problems like being born with below or only slightly above median IQ.

My IQ puts me at about 1/1000. That is, gather 1000 random people and I’m probably as smart or smarter than the other 999.

As a computer programmer, half of the people I work with are as smart or smarter than me. Job market still looks pretty good for me, and the others that can do what I do. Okay, but what are all the non-brilliant people supposed to do?

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 16:09:39

Being of low self-confidence, I loathed taking those IQ tests for years. Then decided to take an IQ test. I scored 128. Not outstanding, but above average. Fine by me. I excelled in pattern-matching.

Note IQ is not the only thing that gets you successful in life. There’s social intelligence and maybe emotional intelligence.

A few good beers or some quality wine can raise your social intelligence temporarily, I suppose!

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 16:46:55

Yes, especially if you are serving the drinks to the others.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 16:49:06

“I scored 128.”

If the mean of the test is 100 and the standard deviation is 15, a score of 128 would put you in the 97th percentile of the distribution (i.e. 97 percent of everyone who takes an IQ test scores lower).

Note: I did the calculation using ‘R’ software — freely available on the web if you are interested.

pnorm((128-100)/15)
[1] 0.9690259

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 17:13:35

Interesting tidbits: Sharon Stone, Madonna, Bill Clinton, the late Jim Morrison have / had (in Mr. Mojo’s case) high IQs. Purportedly, Jim Morrison’s IQ was 149. Genius level is supposedly above 144. Of course Mr. Mojo Risin was self destructive. I suppose he had few other people who pushed the envelope to mentor him to stop. He kept on pushing to the end.

But I still like his lyrics and his poetry.

 
 
 
Comment by Posers
2012-01-21 18:24:03

Be careful of tooting one’s own horn. Tens of millions of people worked quite hard 30-40 years ago to obtain a wide variety of degrees that are now useless due to technology.

There was no way they could have known then what today’s job landscape would look like.

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-22 09:03:19

I guess there is a bit of luck in my choice of career. But then maybe not. If the industrial age was over with (factory labor not requiring critical thinking skills) then the information age was about to begin.

Actually the distinction is the end of an era of brawn and the beginning of the era of using your thinking skills. Information processing is the first stage of the information revolution. The second stage is hitting us head on now.

The second stage is described by quick pace of change and the global competition that could not be facilitated without low cost information fed to countries outside the U.S. (via internet).

The third stage is when the pace of change slows down. This is when all the developed nations reach parity in standards of living. This could be two generations away. American teens who have jobs right now and are super savers in stock index funds would be the only ones of their generation prepared to survive economically and to afford to start families in their 30s. It will be gloomy for all other young people. Buddha help us all.

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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:31:10

Good post!

I absolutely love mobility. The topic even came up yesterday at the office. I put my cards out on the table and told the young manager that I am like a 20 year old. I get bored being in the same place. From what you posted, maybe I’m wrong. Young people don’t want to be mobile?

The massive globalization is going to continue to be painful for the U.S. as more foreign nations free up their economies. Ironically, most Americans hate to admit it, but they prefer the other nations to be back to agrarian and have only the USA be the free market society.

Mobility is the only way to survive. The USA is not the only English-speaking nation. The key to profit from mobility is realizing that if you expand your community from just a city to a 3,000 mile radius, your number of opportunities explodes! Inherent, but significant in that, is your salary or hourly rate is very high if you maintain a record to compare salaries/bennies or hourlys and cost of living between cities.

I’m in my second month of high taxes and I’m on my current project until it ends. The high taxes are painful, but I anticipate getting some more quality LinkedIn recommendations. Headhunters have been nagging me for months. One of them has been hounding me for ten years. My value to them will grow with more documented kudos from the clients. This helps my hourly rate. One in December offered me $3 per hour more than what I made in 2010 to go back to Los Angeles. I think I can get to $100 hourly by keeping my professionalism and skills honed and adding recommendations.

There is a shortage of quality trustworthy engineers out there. Like you said, young people are not as much interested in technology, so there is a vacuum to fill. Lots of good opportunities for people to become financially independent the quickest without having to own their own business. And they keep refusing it. Oh well, more for me.

 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:34:20

I see a lot of examples of American-born young people refusing to go into the technical fields where the most money can be made. Pundits can argue with me that career happiness matters. But I argue back that with a combination of contracting and engineering, one can become financially independent the earliest. Isn’t that what it should be about?

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:36:36

And I was not really happy with my career until I became more mobile, and contracting. Making more money does help. The greater freedom. The more changes and new things to do, new people to meet. It keeps me young and keeps my career interesting. This summer will mark the 27th year of my career. Six weeks of downtime between jobs since 1985.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 14:50:52

I see a lot of examples of American-born young people refusing to go into the technical fields where the most money can be made.

On a bell curve there are only so many smart people. For the “smart enough” people, there was much more money to be made on Wall Street than as a hired gun in tech for a long time. Hopefully that has changed or will change soon.

I think American born kids have made other choices because there have been easier ways to make decent money if you had any people (BSing?) skills.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2012-01-21 15:00:48

“Currently, about 4% of the world’s engineering degrees went to US students, versus 34% to students in China, 5% to Japanese graduates, and 17% to the remaining Asian nations.”

Asia 56%, USA 4%.

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/business-brains/us-needs-more-r-d-spending-technical-graduates-government-report/21452

Comment by measton
2012-01-21 15:43:40

As an ex engineer, I can tell you that the writing was on the wall long ago on this career. You are treated as a cog. My GF and Great Uncle were engineers and had long careers at 1 company. My Step Father and neighbor on the otherhand were routinely threatened with lay offs, and pushed to work for free ie not record or bill their efforts. When you face outsourcing as all engineers do they can treat you like sht. There is more than one reason people chose WS and business over science and engineering. Money is only part of the equation.

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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 16:04:12

I know what you mean. That is why I went into consulting. I could not deal with the brown nosers who got ahead of me in the corporate world. They were less competent technically, but they were promoted above me.

I knew an attractive young woman who was probably fourteen years younger when I met her and here she was coaching me on how to get ahead. She told me you have to frequent the department management offices. Ahem. Easy for her. Since I’m a guy I would not do such a thing. But she was attractive enough to mesmerize the upper mangement I suppose. Once a monsoon storm struck around quitting time. A fellow engineer and myself were in the anteroom, about to exit to the parking lot. The young gal entered the anteroom and told us to turn around. She was taking off her stockings so that she would not ruin them as she would go to the parking lot. My colleague and I talked about that the next day. We had great imaginations for sure.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:54:59

Real Estate is a trap. Just like the fast food poison hawked to people. A trap. Add marriage to the list. Government wants you all to get married, start families and get a burden of real estate. These are all anchors. Like it or not, the more things that bind you to one community, the fewer the opportunities there will be.

Some people say it should not be this way. Well then let their faces turn blue. Try and change reality and you cannot.

And don’t try to social engineer the society to a closed society to protect your traditions. It would only make it worse. Unintended consequences are mostly negative and always happen.

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 13:07:34

Imagine the effects of a very mobile society on government. Local and state governments would have to resort to sales taxes. Even then, there would be no guarantee of steady revenue from year to year. A state legislature making a draconian bill could cause far less taxpayers the next year. On the other hand, the opposite would have the opposite effect.

The more mobile you are, the less materialistic you are: Think about it: No mcMansion to store “things.” “Things” are only burdens. Cars, TVs, computers, furniture, dust collectors. An economy devoted to mobility.

I would like to see it go international. It would in essence be a “voting with your feet” deal. As the Measton/Eco/Polly nanny staters try to tax your soul, you would just leave for a Ron Paul society instead, work there for awhile, still mobile.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 08:51:30

The San Diego economy is tilting towards an employment recovery. The dead-tree version of this article had some details I can’t find in the online version:

Construction Jobs

Since peaking in the spring of 2006, builders shed 43,100 jobs in San Diego County, including 2,300 in 2011. With a “shadow inventory” of troubled homes on the market and a winding down of public works projects, little new new hiring is expected anytime soon. And even after the market normalizes, as few as 10,000 to 15,000 jobs may return, some economists say.

I often wonder whether the term “shadow inventory” entered the lexicon on this blog, as when I started using it here, there was no mention of it in the MSM, at least to my awareness.

SD jobless rate dips to 8.9%
Seasonal hiring and year-to-year growth push jobless rate to lowest point in nearly 3 years

Written by
Dean Calbreath
8:47 a.m., Jan. 20, 2012
Updated 7:28 p.m.

Holiday retail hiring in December helped push San Diego County’s jobless rate below 9 percent for the first time since April 2009, according to data released Friday from the state Employment Development Department.

The local jobless rate dropped from 9.2 percent in November to 8.9 percent in December.

After adjusting for the year-end surge in hiring at shopping malls and department stores, those numbers would be more like 9.5 percent in November and 9.2 percent in December, said Lynn Reaser, economist with Point Loma Nazarene University.

But even then, it would be the lowest rate since May 2009.

“San Diego’s strengths deriving from the presence of the military, technology, tourism, and health care were clearly evident in 2011,” Reaser said. “San Diego still is not creating enough jobs to absorb the sizable number still looking for work, but the economy is improving. And it outperformed both the U.S. and California in 2011.”

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 09:26:26

Shadow unemployment.

5 million plus?

There’s a verse in there for sure.

Shadow man
with a shadow job.
Living in
a shadow house……

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 10:34:07

Sung to the tune of “Nowhere Man”?

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 11:50:43

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

If you get tired of ficticious data about unemployment and other economic measures, go to shaddow stats and see where things really stand.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-01-21 15:18:36

At least based on the way the FedGov used to report their lies.

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Comment by drumminj
2012-01-21 09:18:14

This may well have already been posted here - haven’t been reading much this week - but if not, here’s coverage of a study of college majors vs unemployment rate:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/not-all-college-majors-are-created-equal/2012/01/12/gIQAfz4XzP_story.html

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 10:41:40

He mentions engineering grads with internships as being winners. One trap that happened to me was that as a working class kid from the sticks I joined the military and got some college money. I stayed in the National Guard because that was the easiest way to make more money during college. I graduated without much debt, but had a hard time finding the first engineering job.

Why? Perhaps my interviewing style has some flaws, but mostly it seemed to be because I was doing military stuff in the summer instead of internships. Being a kid from the sticks with no mentors to speak of, nobody ever told me that potential employers would have a problem with how I spent my summers in college. It never even occurred to me.

The GI Bill can help kids get to college who otherwise wouldn’t make it there, but nobody tells you all the unwritten rules of joining the middle class. I can totally see how people get a degree and still can’t find a job.

Comment by rms
2012-01-21 23:53:57

The guy who pulled me in knew my engineering degree was freshly minted from CalPoly; he was piqued by my other life experiences, which I had briefly listed on my resume. During my interview we talked about drag racing, mig/tig welding, piloting, repo-work, military leadership, scuba diving, skydiving, skiing, women, etc., never really touching on civil engineering. Sometime later I learned that they were really interested in someone who could think outside the box, and work under a variety of conditions without quitting.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 12:46:39

The unemployment rate in the early 1980s among engineering majors was tough as well. But in 1985 it was much better. For nearly three decades the top wage-earning graduates have been in technical fields.

Yes, arts are nice, humanities are nice. But only the top of the pyramid makes the money in those fields.

This is all the same old story. One thing that people need to do is find creative ways to make their own field more interesting. Contracting/mobility made my engineering field more interesting. A lot of new things to be interested in every two or three years.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 14:52:57

Yes, arts are nice, humanities are nice. But only the top of the pyramid makes the money in those fields.

I see tech headed that way too…except maybe in China. I just read an article in the last day or two on how if you’re an average engineer you’re screwed.

Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 15:27:13

I think I saw that same article. I saw it through LinkedIn. Seth Godin “If you’re an average worker, you are going straight to the bottom” - that can be googled.

It is a great article and in fact supports the culture of becoming a contract engineer, a high tech nomad, so to speak, of working in different companies for a year or so.

I was a direct hire for fifteen years. The differences between being a salaried employee and a contractor are striking. As a contractor you are allowed to learn on the job. As a direct hire, the only “learning on the job” is related to the core competencies of your organization and may not change for years. You lose your tech touch, your sharpness. I learned far more skills in the last twelve years than in the previous fifteen. I’m ready to go to my next assignment when my project is done.

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Comment by Bill in Phoenix and Tampa
2012-01-21 15:57:45

This is not just specific in tech. I noted at the very beginning of my consulting career in 2000 that the direct hires were / are passive: They take what is there. They are looking for a steady income, a house payment. They mostly are not looking to move up. How could they unless they go into management, which is, to most engineers, all about BSing, brown-nosing to get up the ladder, and not about working on exciting problems.

Salaried engineers at companies can only take advantage of opportunities that exist within the company. It’s a micro-world. Essentially the opportunities are few. Or worse, they are nil if you do not have the right office politics. On few occasions, the politics can get you into program management. On one instance I saw an incompetent guy move into directorship. He was the right race and he knew how to brownnose. Not bad for a kid in his early 30s. But the sad thing with him is that his company is imploding still. It’s all full of nepotism and not about producing something the customer likes. The PMs get salaries comparable to the equivalent yearly income of consultants: About $160,000 on up. But they are there for political reasons. The kid cannot go to another company. His mentor, a VP, who put him in his directorship place, was asked to leave and is gone. The kid is probably going to be asked to step down anytime. He knows he is there because of nepotism (his brother in law, the BIL’s cousins too). A senior engineer friend of mine befriended the kid when he started. Now the kid earns more than the senior engineer. The senior engineer only does the minimum to keep him at that company. He’s in his late 50s and has his condo in LA about paid off, plus he has his late aunt’s Hollywood home, also paid off. He just about does not care anymore. He sees the injustice of nepotism, but does not condemn it. He is passive.

Long story but this is an example why salaried employees can only get ahead by brown nosing.

I see this passivity at the current company too (where I consult in Tampa). Since I started consulting in 2000, I could only pity the direct hires. They are essentially under the thumb of the corporation and they don’t realize their opportunities are limited. The smarter of them jump to other companies if they are in a large metro area. They get their salary increases by going from company to company every two or three years. But these are not the go go years like the 1980s.

The only way for honest ones to stay technical and stay sharp in their field and get the big bucks is to consult and be willing to relocate thousands of miles away from their last gig within a couple of days.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2012-01-21 16:47:19

How could they unless they go into management, which is, to most engineers, all about BSing, brown-nosing to get up the ladder, and not about working on exciting problems.

I can tell you even if you can accept all that getting into mgmt isn’t easy. It’s been almost 10 years now since I got my MBA and things are starting to look up only because I’m in a small company with a lot of problems that I could fix and they can’t seem to. In a larger company I had no chance…there was an “inside track” club and I wasn’t in it.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-01-21 20:55:53

Welcome to the insider track. It’s always been that way for me. I’ve worked for P.C’s for the better part of my career but I will never be an owner/partner/associate and that’s ok with me as they inflate my compensation…… for now.

 
 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-01-21 16:00:28

college majors vs unemployment rate:

Actually, the rates for all the majors (except Arts- I assume they mean Fine Arts) are so close that you might as well major in whichever one interests you.

Comment by Muggy
2012-01-21 19:12:33

The humanities and sciences feed each other. But nooooooo everything has to be STEM because… uh, BRAWNDO!

 
 
Comment by rms
2012-01-21 23:27:14

“Not enough students — and their families who are also taking on student loans — are asking what their college major is worth in the workforce.”

This is a biggie, IMHO; you can’t BK your student loan debt.

 
 
Comment by Awaiting
2012-01-21 12:06:49

In Ca R E Law if you don’t have the condition of the unit/house documented at the time of the post 30 day notice initial walk thru, your tenant rights to a full security refund is probably circumvented. I looked up the law, and of course our slumlord 27 yo resident manager told me it was about carpet and paint, which already exceeded its lifespan. So in other words, if your cleaning of the stove, oven, shower, etc… isn’t on a document with her initials, they can charge us even if the place is clean. CCC 1950.5

What ever happen fair honest business dealings? I’ve worked for a few owners/developers/REIT and most were really honest good firms. I guess the fish does stink from the head down. Most of this firm’s business is the criminal invaderl sec 8 racket. Like they would even know about the Consumer Affairs Dept of a state or Civil Code (which has more loopholes than swiss cheese).I’m no Attorney, but I can read basic laws and the loopholes that pertain to them.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-21 12:40:25

Palm Beach County home sales up 24 percent in 2011

By Kimberly Miller
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 11:21 a.m. Friday, Jan. 20, 2012

One looming cloud on the real estate horizon is the shadow inventory of foreclosures destined to hit the market after a long slog through the courts. In Palm Beach County, about 34,820 foreclosure cases are pending. Statewide, there’s an estimated backlog of 260,815 cases.

With only 5.9 months’ worth of single-family home inventory in Palm Beach County - the lowest since 2006 - Realtor Sherry Lee hopes to see some of that shadow inventory soon. Lee, whose Lee Property Sales is based in West Palm Beach, said clients are shocked at today’s paltry selection.

“They try to bid on something only to realize that there are multiple offers,” Lee said. “I’m looking six times a day for every little new listing.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/real-estate/palm-beach-county-home-sales-up-24-percent-2114057.html

Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-21 14:17:04

I did not comment on this article and I don`t agree with this guy but his name did make me :)

25 COMMENTS

Looks like the board is filled with disgruntled renters today. Upset that prices just don’t seem to be dropping to a price they can afford. The renters will be even more upset as rents continue to rise and they will be priced out of owning forever. Yes whiners, yawn all you like from the comfort of a home you’ll never own, LOSERS!

Bite Me
12:21 AM, 1/21/2012

Comment by Awaiting
2012-01-21 19:36:28

Jeff
If your rant included me, Awaiting, you missed my position. We’re a cash & close for a toe tag home, after selling a home regular sale. 825+ FICO’s, money to actually OWN our next home, and no debt.

I just don’t like people taking advantage of their tenants. Uncool!

Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-22 04:43:35

Awaiting

That was not my rant, just a comment on the PB Post. I just liked his name “Bite Me”. :) As far as “I just don’t like people taking advantage of their tenants” you should know my position on that. Let`s just say I side with you. Uncool is putting it mildly, you`re a nicer person than I am.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 13:29:10

The Bay Citizen
Harris Out on a Limb on Mortgage Settlement
By AARON GLANTZ
Published: January 14, 2012

Four years ago, when most of the Democratic Party establishment stood firmly behind Hillary Rodham Clinton, Kamala D. Harris, then San Francisco’s district attorney, spent a winter week in Iowa stumping for Barack Obama.

When she ran for attorney general two years later, the mixed-race Ms. Harris (her mother is Indian, her father Jamaican-American) drew frequent comparisons to Mr. Obama, as a rare candidate who inspired young people and ethnic minorities often alienated from the political process. The PBS newscaster Gwen Ifill once referred to her as the “female Obama.”

“Like Obama, she represents the next generation of leadership that talks about issues in a new way,” said Steve Phillips, co-founder of Power PAC, which backed Mr. Obama with millions of dollars in 2008 and then spent nearly $400,000 to support Ms. Harris’s campaign for attorney general.

But since taking office as attorney general a year ago, Ms. Harris has clashed with the Obama administration over one of her signature issues: foreclosures and mortgage fraud.

In September, Ms. Harris walked away from settlement talks with the nation’s five largest mortgage servicers, saying the proposed deal to have them pay roughly $25 billion in restitution for mortgage abuses was too weak. She said the proposed settlement sought by the Obama administration asked California to “excuse conduct that has not been adequately investigated.”

Three and a half months later, she remains outside the talks. On Tuesday, she attended a meeting of 15 state attorneys general — including Joseph R. Biden III of Delaware and Eric Schneiderman of New York — intended to compare notes about legal options outside the settlement framework and to devise a tougher approach to the negotiations.

Her posture has generated praise from MoveOn.org and other liberal advocacy groups. Rick Jacobs, executive director of the Los Angeles-based Courage Campaign, said Ms. Harris had distinguished herself by meeting with troubled homeowners. “She is steely, fiery and passionate that people are not run over by banks,” Mr. Jacobs said.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 13:32:50

Cramdowns are coming.

One million homeowners may get mortgage writedowns: U.S.

Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan speaks during a news conference at the Department of Justice in Washington D.C. December 21, 2011. REUTERS/Benjamin Myers

By Margaret Chadbourn and Aruna Viswanatha
WASHINGTON | Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:22pm EST

(Reuters) - About one million American homeowners would get writedowns in the size of their mortgages under a proposed deal with banks over shady foreclosure practices, U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan said on Wednesday.

The deal, which could be struck within weeks, would mark the largest cut in the mortgage load since the start of the credit crisis.

“We’re very close to a settlement that would both fix the servicing problems, but also help over a million families around the country stay in their homes and get help,” Donovan said at a U.S. Conference of Mayors meeting in Washington.

Talks between federal officials, state attorneys general and major banks to resolve allegations of “robo-signing” and other misconduct in foreclosures have dragged into their second year.

Donovan’s announcement came the same day that two big regional U.S. banks disclosed they had set aside funds related to mortgage servicing matters, a sign that lenders beyond the five largest mortgage servicers may join the expected settlement.

In exchange for between $20 billion to $25 billion in relief to distressed homeowners, the banks - Bank of America Corp, Wells Fargo & Co, JPMorgan Chase & Co, Citigroup and Ally Financial Inc - will put behind them potential government lawsuits about improper foreclosures and abuses in originating and servicing the loans.

Using Donovan’s estimate, the settlement could provide roughly a $20,000 reduction each for the one million borrowers.

Prior administration efforts to jumpstart the housing recovery have fallen short of how they were promoted.

Some states, including California and New York, have criticized negotiators as being too lenient on the banks and suggested the proposed settlement would not provide enough relief to the housing market.

The Obama administration has seen the broader foreclosure settlement as an opportunity to help reach more borrowers struggling financially as the five-year collapse in home prices persists. Currently, banks have granted at-risk borrowers principal reductions on a limited basis.

“Principal reduction can have a substantial impact on the housing market nationally,” Donovan said.

With more than a 30 percent decline in home prices since 2007 and a huge number of vacant, foreclosed homes flooding the market, the housing sector has struggled to rebuild itself.

About 22 percent of U.S. homes have negative equity totaling about $750 billion, according to CoreLogic.

Donovan said the deal would be “far and away the largest principal reduction of the crisis” and a number families would also “get direct compensation as a result of the settlement.”

Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-21 16:36:50

$25 billion ain’t gonna do it so the Fed is gonna have to throw in the balance of the $8 trillion.

Did this the other day but what the heck, $25 billion will take care of the county I live in but what is the rest of the country going to do?

March 17, 2011|By Paul Owers, Sun Sentinel

Practically everyone who bought South Florida homes in 2005 or 2006 wishes now they hadn’t.

After an historic run-up in home values that began in 2000, South Florida prices peaked in November 2005, a month after Hurricane Wilma hit the region. Palm Beach County’s median hit $421,500

More than half of all properties with a mortgage in Broward County — 51 percent, or 229,090 homes — were underwater in the fourth quarter, research firm CoreLogic said last week. In Palm Beach County, the problem affects 44 percent of homes with a mortgage, or 147,643 properties.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-03-17/features/fl-unlucky-2005-homes-20110316_1_underwater-borrowers-housing-frenzy-mortgage-payments - 45k -

Palm Beach County home sales up 24 percent in 2011

By Kimberly Miller
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 11:21 a.m. Friday, Jan. 20, 2012

And while year-end median prices for existing single-family homes slipped 15 percent to $193,700,

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/real-estate/palm-beach-county-home-sales-up-24-percent-2114057.html

As Colorado said “25B is enough to buy 125,000 $200,000 houses”

The problem affects 44 percent of homes with a mortgage, or 147,643 properties in Palm Beach County. In November 2005 Palm Beach County’s median was $421,500 it is now $193,700 I will throw Broward County in for good measure but then I would tell Shaun Donovan he is about 3007 counties short with his $25 billion.

How many counties are there in the US?

Answer:

The US has:
3009 counties

PS
I don`t think I even had to throw Broward in.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 13:36:49

I agree with this writer about directly busting dotcom pirates rather than passing anti-piracy law which impinges on free speech.

I also wonder why a similar approach to that used to bust Kim Dotcom couldn’t be used to go after financial felons who perpetrated fraud against the American public? The top-down one-size-fits-all regulatory approach favored by DC seems inferior for stamping out financial crime to direct prosecutorial action against perps.

If feds can bust Megaupload, why bother with anti-piracy bills?

A growing battle over copyright on the internet came to a head this week as digital protests scuttled two anti-piracy bills, police arrested Megaupload’s millionaire filesharing pirate, and hackers brought down the Department of Justice website.

By Patrik Jonsson, Staff writer / January 21, 2012

Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom (R) appears with other employees in Auckland’s North Shore District Court after their arrest January 20, 2012. New Zealand police broke through electronic locks and cut their way into a mansion safe room to arrest the alleged kingpin of an international Internet copyright theft case and seize millions of dollars worth of cars, artwork and other goods.

Comment by measton
2012-01-21 15:45:42

That was my take.

People suggest that the PTB want to show the threat to push their law through congress, but in my mind they’ve just revealed that we don’t need their constitutional power grab.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 15:07:19

I also wonder why a similar approach to that used to bust Kim Dotcom couldn’t be used to go after financial felons who perpetrated fraud against the American public?

That presupposes a political will to go after the financial fraudsters. Which is never going to happen as long as both parties are bought and paid for by Wall Street, and as long as the sheeple continue to vote for the Republicrat duopoly’s Hollow Man candidates.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 15:16:21

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer, head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, were partners for years at a Washington law firm that represented a Who’s Who of big banks and other companies at the center of alleged foreclosure fraud, a Reuters inquiry shows.

The firm, Covington & Burling, is one of Washington’s biggest white shoe law firms. Law professors and other federal ethics experts said that federal conflict of interest rules required Holder and Breuer to recuse themselves from any Justice Department decisions relating to law firm clients they personally had done work for.

Both the Justice Department and Covington declined to say if either official had personally worked on matters for the big mortgage industry clients. Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said Holder and Breuer had complied fully with conflict of interest regulations, but she declined to say if they had recused themselves from any matters related to the former clients.

Reuters reported in December that under Holder and Breuer, the Justice Department hasn’t brought any criminal cases against big banks or other companies involved in mortgage servicing, even though copious evidence has surfaced of apparent criminal violations in foreclosure cases.

The evidence, including records from federal and state courts and local clerks’ offices around the country, shows widespread forgery, perjury, obstruction of justice, and illegal foreclosures on the homes of thousands of active-duty military personnel.

***

While Holder and Breuer were partners at Covington, the firm’s clients included the four largest U.S. banks – Bank of America, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo & Co – as well as at least one other bank that is among the 10 largest mortgage servicers.

***

Covington represented Freddie Mac …. [and] MERS Corp …. Court records show that Covington, in the late 1990s, provided legal opinion letters needed to create MERS on behalf of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase and several other large banks.

***

Covington in 2004 also wrote a crucial opinion letter commissioned by MERS, providing legal justification for its electronic registry. MERS spokeswoman Karmela Lejarde declined to comment on Covington legal work done for MERS.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2012-01-21 15:14:38

I thought this kinda sh#t didn`t happen in Colorado.

Colo. girl escapes apparent kidnapper, calls 911

Updated 49m ago

DENVER (AP) – A missing 9-year-old girl escaped from an apparent kidnapper and called 911 herself from a convenience store in Colorado Springs on Friday.

The Pueblo girl was reported missing Thursday night after she didn’t return home from school.

The suspect, Jose Garcia, 29, is also a suspect in an alleged molestation involving a different girl, Pueblo police Capt. Eric Bravo said.

The car of the man accused of kidnapping the girl broke down Friday morning in Colorado Springs, and a passerby gave them a ride to a Circle K, police said.

The girl ran into the convenience store and asked to use the phone to call her uncle but instead called 911, which prompted the man to take off, authorities said.

Efren Vialpando told The Gazette he saw the girl come in the Circle K with two black eyes and a bruise on her lip and face. She had refused to leave the store with the man, saying, “I ain’t going nowhere. I’m waiting for my momma.” He said the suspect fled after that.

Garcia was in custody Friday. Pueblo police haven’t said how they connected him to the kidnapping and where Garcia was with the girl for more than 15 hours overnight. Pueblo police Sgt. Darren Velarde said Garcia is being held on suspicion of kidnapping and could face a charge of sexual assault on a child.

Pueblo County court records said Garcia was wanted for suspicion of kidnapping and sex assault on a child, and Bravo said allegations in that case involved Garcia’s 9-year-old former stepdaughter. Both the former stepdaughter and the girl who escaped Friday attended Columbian Elementary School in Pueblo.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-01-21/missing-girl-escapes-kidnapper/52706816/1 - 42k

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 15:32:34
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 15:37:39

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-20/puritan-operator-made-fortune-killing-evil-witches-lewis-lapham.html

This is what happens when you combine a for-profit justice system, a religious charlaton, and an abysmally stupid and gullible population.

 
Comment by measton
2012-01-21 15:55:11

It’s good to know that some crimes get prosecuted

HOUSTON (Reuters) - No one calls him Sir Allen Stanford anymore. He is inmate number 35017-183.
On Monday, the Texas financier heads to court in Houston to battle charges that he operated a $7 billion Ponzi scheme from Stanford International Bank Ltd, his offshore bank on the Caribbean island of Antigua. By all accounts, his was a life of luxury, filled with private jets, yachts, mansions and the sport of cricket.

Deemed a flight risk in June 2009 by a federal judge, the 6-foot billionaire has been in jail, sporting prison-issue green and orange jumpsuits and shackles instead of the dark, tailor-made suits he once ordered in bulk.

Stanford, a native Texan who was knighted by the government of Antigua in 2006, is accused of misleading investors about certificates of deposit (CDs) issued by his offshore bank, in one of the biggest white collar fraud cases since Bernard Madoff.

Stanford’s health has declined since his arrest. He was injured in a jailhouse brawl in 2009 and suffered from an addiction to a powerful anti-anxiety medication. He has hepatitis B and cirrhosis of the liver, and, if convicted, will likely spend he rest of his life in prison.

The SEC seized all of Stanford’s assets in February 2009 after filing a civil lawsuit. His lawyer at the time, Dick DeGuerin, said the government’s action did not even leave enough money for his client to buy underwear.

Once No. 205 on Forbes’ list of richest Americans, Stanford’s defense is paid for with U.S. tax dollars and his 81-year-old mother is struggling to help.

After his arrest, Stanford had a bevy of women, four of whom are mothers of his six children, attend his court hearings. He had a “fiancee” half his age even though he remains legally married.

Stanford lavished the women in his life with trips on private jets, luxury homes and, in one instance, spousal support payments of $100,000 per month, according to court documents.

His oldest daughter, Randi, lived in a luxury Houston high-rise paid for by her father, for whom she worked.

Court records from a 2007 paternity case, that was settled, showed Stanford also paid about $150,000 a year in child support for two other children who lived with their mother in a $10 million house in Florida.

Do victims get to go after all this money?? probably not.

 
Comment by measton
2012-01-21 15:59:36

MILAN (Reuters) - Plans to launch a European ratings agency to compete with S&P, Moody’s and Fitch are at an advanced stage and a new private institution could start business as soon as the first half of this year, German businessman Roland Berger told an Italian newspaper.

The founder of consultancy Roland Berger said he hoped a new private, non-profit organization, in the form of a foundation, could be ready in “the first half or the first nine months of the year,” according to Saturday’s Corriere della Sera.

Berger, who has been lobbying European governments and companies to gather support and financing for a new agency, hopes to have raised the 300 million euros of capital needed from European investors by that time, the paper said.

“The proposed model is of an agency where the service is paid by the clients, who have an interest in having reliable and objective results,” Berger said.

Roland Berger partner Markus Krall, who is largely tasked with setting up the agency, told Germany’s Euro am Sonntag weekly that it would differentiate itself from competitors by accepting liability for its analysis.

The question is how will clients be forced to pay for this, and how do big clients get charged vs little mom and pop clients?

I think the EU realizes that the rating agencies in the US are being used as a club for the PTB to strip sovereignty from the smaller EU countries and advance the US agenda. Democracy we don’t need no stinkin democracy.

 
Comment by jane
2012-01-21 16:15:30

Wilmington, DE REO for Realtors are Liars ™:

http://mandtreo.com/app.aspx?st=1&e=reodetail&propertyid=6655

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-21 18:20:00

“America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.” (Alexis de Tocqueville)

 
Comment by cactus
2012-01-21 22:55:24

I don’t think lenders see too many FICO’s above 800 these days

kind of freaks them out I guess

 
Comment by cactus
2012-01-21 23:04:42

So a person ( couple I guess) buys a home in 2006 for 600K now trying a short sale and is motivated because their new home is almost done.

I knew this would happen because this is exactly what my neighbors did back in the 1990’s. Buy a new house bail on the old one, at least these guys are trying a short sale.

I’m going to find out how low the bank will go ? Comps are about 375K at this time.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-01-21 23:25:08

America’s Choice 2012
Gingrich: U.S. should reconsider gold standard

By Chris Isidore @CNNMoney January 18, 2012: 4:06 PM ET
Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said the U.S. should look at returning to the gold standard.

Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said the U.S. should look at returning to the gold standard.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich is calling for the United States to think about returning to the gold standard.

Speaking at a foreign policy forum in South Carolina on Tuesday, Gingrich advocated a “commission on gold to look at the whole concept of how do we get back to hard money.”

Gingrich, a former Speaker of the House, has spoken in favor of a “hard money” policy in the past, but these were his strongest comments to support reinstating the gold standard.

Gingrich would model his “gold commission” after one put in place after Ronald Reagan was elected, when the nation was battling double-digit inflation. But even then, the commission overwhelmingly rejected the idea of a return to the gold standard.

One of only two members of the 17-member commission to endorse a return to the gold standard was Ron Paul, one of Gingrich’s rivals for the GOP nomination.

The United States first moved away from the gold standard, under which the dollar was backed by the nation’s gold reserves, in 1933, and dropped it altogether in 1971. Despite support for its return by some on the political right, few mainstream economists support its reinstatement.

Local currencies: ‘In the U.S. we don’t trust’

Chief among the problems is that with a dollar pegged to gold, U.S. goods could become uncompetitive on the global markets compared to goods priced in euros or yen.

The return to a gold standard is a central point in the campaign of Paul, a Congressman from Texas who also advocates abolishing the Federal Reserve.

In his comments Tuesday, Gingrich also spoke sharply against the Fed, saying it should focus on keeping prices in check, dropping the dual mandate of job growth and fighting inflation.

“We need to say to the Federal Reserve: Your only job is to maintain the stability of the dollar because we want a dollar to be worth thirty years from now what it is worth now,” he said. “Hard money is a discipline. It means you can’t inflate away your difficulties.”

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2012-01-22 15:19:21

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/9030919/Afghan-soldier-killed-French-troops-over-US-abuse-video.html

To Perry and the morons who supported him: This is why we don’t tolerate GIs making “simple mistakes” like pissing on dead enemies.

 
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