March 2, 2012

These Crashes Don’t Happen Every Generation

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Terrell Owens will have two of his Dallas condominiums auctioned off in early March. While he earned around $80 million during his NFL career, Owens is now making a more pedestrian wage with the Wranglers and is facing foreclosure on two of his properties. Owens owns two homes within three miles of each other in Dallas that are under water. Owens told GQ that he is broke due to misguided financial investments. ‘I hate myself for letting this happen,’ he said. ‘I believed that [my advisors] had my back when they said, ‘You take care of the football, and we’ll do the rest.’ And in the end, they just basically stole from me.’”

“GQ’s feature on Owens also included the news that his Atlanta home is for sale and he sold a residence in New Jersey for less than half what he paid.”

“‘Anybody who’s not paying their mortgage can’t afford to,’ said Ron LeVine, a bankruptcy lawyer in Hackensack, N.J. In interviews recently, five New Jersey homeowners said they are not trying to game the system, but rather just working with the situation they’ve got. In that state, homeowners in distress have more than 21/2 years, on average, from the time the lender first initiates the process to the time they are forced out of the home.”

“Sal Poliandro, a Re/Max agent in Saddle River, N.J., who specializes in short sales, said a number of homeowners in trouble have told him they’ll wait for foreclosure rather than try for a short sale because they know they have time. ‘There are people who are just waiting it out,’ he said. ‘I decided to stay in the house until the bank takes it away,’ said a Clifton, N.J., homeowner who bought his house about six years ago but can’t pay the mortgage because his trucking business failed.”

“Monique White faces an eviction hearing on her North Minneapolis home. Laid off from her job as a counselor, she now works two part-time jobs to try to stay afloat. She too can’t get a loan modification from her bank despite multiple attempts. She has piles of paperwork showcasing her fruitless efforts. ‘They just need to come to the table, reassess my situation and make it affordable,’ she said. ‘Because it’s not like I’m asking for anything for free.’”

“Occupy D.C. was back protesting Monday, but this time to prevent a Prince George’s County woman from being evicted from her home after it was foreclosed upon by the federally backed mortgage giant Freddie Mac. Empowered by her newfound activism, Jones, 73, added her situation wasn’t free of embarrassment. ‘For them to steal $100,000 in equity, I was ashamed,’ she said. ‘Other homeowners need to come down here, especially from the P.G.’”

“Jones said she’s continuing on with Occupy Our Homes not just for her own cause but for her neighbors’, too. ‘I’m not [Mitt] Romney with a bag of money,’ she said.”

“Housing activists say, soaring property values, Ellis Act evictions and the current foreclosure rip-offs by banks and lenders target diverse citywide homeowner populations — Hispanic, Asian, elders, women and the poor. Specifically, San Francisco’s African-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from 13.4 percent in 1970 to to 3.9 percent today. RealtyTrak, and ACCE, the Association of Californians for Community Empowerment headquartered in Los Angeles, both claim that more than 1,400 homes in the 94124 ZIP code will be foreclosed by 2012.”

“Eleven homes on Quesada, the block shared by Vivian and Carolyn Gage, either have been, or are being, foreclosed upon. Carolyn has been an established community member for over 50 years. When high interest rates on a $250,000 loan became inflated to $525,000, a Bayview Mortgage Capital foreclosure drove her from her home. But, ACCE helped her re-occupy it. Following Carolyn’s re-occupation, the mortgage company committed to re-opening her case and cooperating with her to keep her residence.”

“A former Deputy Sheriff, soft-spoken and dignified, she is equally determined. ‘We are union members and home owners,’ she observes. ‘We have been financially assaulted.’”

“California’s attorney general has pressed the regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to halt foreclosures until principal writedowns are given a fair look as a way to help borrowers with delinquent loans owned by the mortgage enterprises. How did housing finance director Edward DeMarco respond to Kamala Harris’s letter? ‘Numerous foreclosure slowdowns and moratoria have already taken place, each adding to the losses shifted to American taxpayers and further destabilizing neighborhoods,’ said DeMarco in a Feb. 27 letter to Harris.”

“DeMarco firmly holds his position on principal writedowns: ‘There is no question that underwater borrowers in California would benefit from other taxpayers across the United States paying off the underwater portion of their mortgage debt. My obligation to those taxpayers, including those living in California, is to ensure that the assistance offered to borrowers facing difficulty in making their mortgage payments maximizes the opportunity to assist those borrowers at minimum cost to taxpayers.’”

“‘The numerous foreclosure avoidance options offered to borrowers whose loans are owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, including multiple loan modification options, do just that. We will continue to consider alternatives as they are proposed, but I will not further delay foreclosures provided those borrowers have been given a meaningful opportunity to avail themselves of a loan modification or some other suitable foreclosure avoidance alternative.’”

“‘In contrast to most states that employ abbreviated processes for deeding the mortgaged property back to the lender, every foreclosure action in Florida is a lawsuit governed by the same rules for pleadings and court hearings that apply to other civil litigation,’ said Kendall Coffey, a legal expert and author, who added the average foreclosure in Florida takes 806 days. ‘We’re not just going to hand it over to the lender.’”

“There are 368,000 pending home foreclosures in the state, and that number could double by 2016, Coffey said. Coffey is partner in the Coffey Burlington law firm in Miami. His latest book, ‘Spinning the Law,’ looks at the art of trying cases in the court of public opinion.The state’s real estate driven economy is generating floodtides of litigation and has spawned an industry of foreclosure defense lawyers who rely on overwhelmed court dockets to stave off foreclosure and keep clients in their homes, Coffey said.”

“How will the consumer fare? ‘Ultimately,’ Coffey said, ‘homeowners will lose a contested foreclosure in the overwhelming majority of cases.’”

“Take note, Southern Nevadans: If you own one of the estimated 100,000 homes that experts predict will be lost to foreclosure before the protracted housing crisis comes to an end, you may see a massive tax hike this time next year. ‘Even the uncertainty related to passage of the bill can quickly hold back economic recovery,’ said Lawrence Yun, chief economist for the National Association of Realtors, which strongly backs an extension of the tax relief for forgiven mortgage debt.”

“A worst-case scenario could also be a modest run on the housing market in the next 10 months as owners of distressed properties try to dump them before the end of the year. ‘If, say, there’s an added rush to bring properties onto the market(for example, speeding along a short sale), added supply always means lower prices, so the lower prices would hamper this housing recovery,’ Yun added.”

“John Conn, associate of Conn Realty, agrees sellers have to be more realistic about the market. ‘It’s not true of all neighborhoods, but values are very stable and holding,’ Conn said. ‘But from a sellers’ perspective they have to get in their mindset, ‘If I just get out of this (home), I can make it up on the buy somewhere else because the buys are so good.’”

“For example, he said, if a seller owed $100,000 on their home and it’s worth $120,000, if they can sell it for $100,000, then they might be able to buy a house valued at $150,000 that they can get it for $120,000. So they didn’t lose $20,000 when they sold their home, they made $30,000 when they bought their next home.”

“Dale Washburn said business is off from where those in the industry want it to be and that most brokers are still struggling. He is on the speaker’s bureau for the Georgia Association of Realtors. ‘The problem continues to be a log jam,’ he said. ‘People can’t buy because they can’t sell the house they have.’”

“In years past, most agents would tell buyers that they could expect about a 3 percent appreciation a year of their home, Washburn and other real estate agent said. That’s not true anymore, he said. ‘I think the trend is, from what we hear from the national (Realtors) association, is people are buying houses now, not focusing on investment, but they are focusing on the use of the property, the enjoyment of the property. Now having said that, nobody is saying that buying a house is not a good investment, it is still a good investment.’”

“Neither numbers nor percentage of sales put this region on the list of ‘top metro areas to buy bank-owned properties’ in the fourth quarter - it was the size of the price discount, an average of 52.5 percent, which dropped the sale price of a bank-owned house to $109,878. Only Milwaukee’s discount of 57.9 percent was higher than Philadelphia’s on the list of the 10 metro areas.”

“The increase in bank-owned sales here in the fourth quarter appears related to policy changes by some lenders. ‘What I have noticed is that many of these lenders have put a better and more realistic system in place to manage these listings,’ especially being reasonable about the price, said Noelle M. Barbone, office manager of Weichert Realtors in Media.”

“If there’s bad news in the numbers, it’s that new home sales remain stagnant and that many of the current sales are to investors. For January 2012, only one new home sold in Casa Grande and just 71 in Pinal County. That compares with nine in Casa Grande in January 2011 and 66 in all of Pinal County. Lending, which experts say in retrospect was much too loose in the years leading up to the market’s collapse in 2008, is a factor in sales now.”

“‘Normal homebuyers generally have to finance and investors often pay cash,’ said Mike Orr, Director of the Center for Real Estate Theory and Practice at the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University. ‘Lenders have gone from completely abdicating responsibility six years ago to not taking hardly any risks in making loans.’”

“Neal Buckner, broker/owner of Elite Real Estate Pros in Casa Grande, said that doesn’t mean people can’t get loans, however. ‘It’s not difficult to get a loan these days,’ Buckner said. ‘It’s just that the requirements are where they should be. It isn’t like five or six years ago, when they opened it up to almost anybody. If their debt ratio is right and they’re putting down 10 or 20 percent, they have no difficulty getting loans.’”

“For now, the market continues to improve and everyone involved has learned lessons from the boom-and-bust cycle that led to the collapse. ‘I think everybody has [learned something],’ Orr said. ‘These kind of crashes don’t happen every generation. I don’t think anyone anticipated quite the devastation we saw here. Now prices have over-corrected.’”

“The wild card in the supply picture is whether another wave of foreclosures will occur. The answer is anybody’s guess. ‘We just don’t know what is being held back,’ Buckner agreed. ‘I have no idea what HUD and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have. I hope when they decide to put more on the market that they do it in a gradual fashion so it doesn’t affect the market.’”




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Comment by mikeinbend
2012-03-02 09:12:37

See RAL? Not all realtors are liars. Some are Conns. They may name their business as such: Conn Realty….really? What kind of job will they do for you? We accoring to the name, a “Conn” job!

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 09:49:23

Realtors Are Con’s….. no question ….. read the rest of his yapping for even more stunning BS. Realtor math is laughable. Truly laughable.

 
 
Comment by Steve J
2012-03-02 09:20:00

From the LA Times:

He says the mother of one of his children is trying to push him into finding a steady job, like working as a coach or a football analyst on TV, which would definitely help his financial situation. But Owens insists he has a few more playing years left in him.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-02 09:33:01

‘Owens owns two homes within three miles of each other in Dallas that are under water. Owens told GQ that he is broke due to misguided financial investments. ‘I hate myself for letting this happen,’ he said…GQ’s feature on Owens also included the news that his Atlanta home is for sale and he sold a residence in New Jersey for less than half what he paid.’

‘nobody is saying that buying a house is not a good investment, it is still a good investment’

Maybe he should write a book; ‘How to Piss Away $80 million Without Really Trying’

Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-03-02 11:03:30

We have 100 years of pro sports history showing us that the typical pro jock is not the savviest investor.

At least with the Emu Farm, you can eat the emus, if worst comes to worst.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-02 11:56:29

I used to do taxes for a family that tried to raise emus. It was interesting cuz they paid thousands for each bird. Through the years, we depreciated this and deducted that. Eventually, every single bird got killed by coyotes, dogs or just died. None were eaten, not by the owners anyway.

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Comment by Avocado
2012-03-02 12:48:52

Ben - do you ever think you are wasting your talents living in a small town with no careers? Ever think of moving?

ps. I am in the same boat.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-02 12:55:11

I’m running 3 businesses right now, so I’m a bit anchored here. I haven’t worked for anyone else since 2004. But yeah, I like to move every few years.

As far as my talents, I like what my grand dad said to the traffic judge when asked what he did for a living; he said he was a Sultan, but he was out of work at the moment.

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2012-03-02 11:23:19

When you think about it, if he spent only 1 million a year, 80 million would last you 80 years.

The way these idiots piss money away must be breathtaking.

Comment by octal77
2012-03-02 13:00:32

…these idiots piss money away must be breathtaking..

Short of cashing out into $100 bills and putting them into a backyard bonfire, how is it even mechanically possible to destroy that much money?

You know, there are a lot of stories out there like this one. (Sports stars for sure, but lotto winners are another group).

Somebody needs to do a feature length documentary film about these morons. It would take home the Academy Award for gross stupidity hands down.

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Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 13:33:12

Octal, that’s a great idea. I’d like to see these people shop. When Michael Jackson died, they’d showed bits of footage of Michael Jackson shopping, just pointing at stuff and they would say Yes Sir and wrap it up.

I remember Matt Lauer of the Today show wandering around the late Michael Jackson’s empty Neverland house, talking about the housekeepers and chefs who had to wear special uniforms. Half of me said “oh, so that’s where the money goes” and the other half said “at least Michael was a job creator.”

 
Comment by polly
2012-03-02 14:32:19

It must go into creating ongoing expenses - people on staff, running/keeping up a bunch of mansions, subsidizinfg relatives/friends, and such. I suspect a lot of gifting large ticket items to people. Anyone with a child who lives with an exspouse/former girlfriend may have quite a bit going that way too. And sports salaries get taxed the regular way.

 
Comment by rms
2012-03-02 23:38:27

All account transactions of $10k or more are well documented, and that information is for sale to anyone, but primarily to the financial services industry. Anyone with serious money is bombarded daily with investment schemes, cajolery, etc., by greedy financial parasites. Keeping your money safe is often more difficult than making it.

 
 
 
Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-03-02 18:12:20

Has anyone read “The High Beta Rich?” Losing $80M is small potatoes compared to the high betas. One couple frittered away a fortune trying to build America’s biggest house —90,000 square feet with 23 full bathrooms, a 6,000 square foot master suite with a bed on a rotating platform—only to be forced to put it on the market because “we really need the money”. At the time that they attempted to build it, they were $1 billion in debt–one couple! When interviewed for the book, the guy admitted that: “maybe he shouldn’t have tried to build the biggest house in the world when he was $1B in debt.” Gee, ya think? And instead of taking personal responsibility for being a total bonehead, he blamed the banks for lending him the money. His debt included $20M for a Gulfstream that he borrowed 100% for and a $325 million loan secured by bubble-inflated land that Credit Suisse “forced” on him (the land, valued at $1B subsequently lost 50% of its value).

In the chapter: “Who Repo’d My Yacht” one guy had his yacht repossessed 4 times. Another guy was once worth $14M and now lives in his truck. The premise of the book is that there is a new type of wealthy, irrational in their behavior who create bubbles that affect the rest of the economy. And instead of the old saying of going from shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations, they are doing it in a decade, leaving behind a vast amount of economic destruction.

What they’ve done to Aspen would make you want to cry. The median price of a single family home there is $5M. The cheapest home was $500,000–this was a mobile home in a trailer park. Some of the homes are people’s 8th homes and live there only 2 weeks out of a year. Middle-class people used to live there.

Comment by ecofeco
2012-03-02 18:23:19

This is why the rich must be kept on a tight leash at all times.

When a poor person makes a mistake, it usually only adversely affect their immediate friends and family.

When a rich person makes a mistake it adversely affects hundreds to THOUSANDS of people.

That we accept this as right only shows how barbarous and stupid we still are.

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-03-02 11:25:37

“He says the mother of one of his children is trying to push him into finding a steady job”

Haven’t these guys ever heard of condoms? The mother of ONE of his children, the implication being that he has kids with multiple women.

I suppose that knocking up as many well shaped ladies as possible must be considered a sign of manhood in certain demographics.

Sheesh!

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 11:54:57

Birth control is for sluts according to the GOP.

 
Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 14:27:15

The measure of manhood is how many girls said yes to you.
The measure of womanhood is how many guys you said no to (at first).

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-03-02 19:55:31

So, the measure of manhood is patience? ha!

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2012-03-04 22:36:42

“So, the measure of manhood is patience? ha!”

Well, all’s eye can say is [from experience], yeppers that may be a good start …

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 09:44:42

‘They just need to come to the table, reassess my situation and make it affordable,’ she said. ‘Because it’s not like I’m asking for anything for free.’”

Do these people even hear themselves?

Comment by Awaiting
2012-03-02 11:53:00

Not to be a meanie about Andrew Sch*ff, but I read a piece on him yesterday, where he was saying that living on $200K net a year is hard (Grossed $350K). You know, he is really struggling….I almost had a technicolor yawn. I would love to have that problem.

Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 13:35:19

If he has a couple kids in college at $40K each, then yes it’s possible to struggle on that amount.

Comment by The_Overdog
2012-03-02 13:46:06

Not exactly:

The malaise is shared by Schiff, the New York-based marketing director for Euro Pacific Capital, where his brother is CEO. His family rents the lower duplex of a brownstone in Cobble Hill, where his two children share a room. His 10-year- old daughter is a student at $32,000-a-year Poly Prep Country Day School in Brooklyn. His son, 7, will apply in a few years.

“I can’t imagine what I’m going to do,” Schiff said. “I’m crammed into 1,200 square feet. I don’t have a dishwasher. We do all our dishes by hand.”

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Comment by The_Overdog
2012-03-02 13:52:25

“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash…

Take my advice and don’t read if you are already feeling pitchforky and live anywhere near NYC.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/wall-street-bonus-withdrawal-means-trading-aspen-for-cheap-chex.html

 
Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 14:35:30

OK, I’m feeling no sympathy for Schiff. With a couple produnt years he could cash out and go Oil City. I wonder what his wife does. Seems to me that they could save a bundle just if she homeshools the kid and walks the dog.

I applaud the one young guy who’s going to buy a $50K house near Charlotte.

 
Comment by The_Overdog
2012-03-02 15:05:27

There’s no need for him to cash out, just dial it back a bit. The company is owned by his brother; nepotism is how you get hired, not fired. :)

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-03-02 20:00:38

Grampa Mac called these folks “broke at a higher level”. I can see it sort of, one is trapped in the environment of their own making. It takes a crisis for one to change their perspective more than 10%.

 
2012-03-03 15:09:40

+10,000

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by DudgeonBludgeon
2012-03-02 09:45:27

“For example, he said, if a seller owed $100,000 on their home and it’s worth $120,000, if they can sell it for $100,000, then they might be able to buy a house valued at $150,000 that they can get it for $120,000. So they didn’t lose $20,000 when they sold their home, they made $30,000 when they bought their next home.”

I’m hyperventilating at the idiocy on display here.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 09:56:28

Thank you. It demonstrates the level of corrupt rationalization and funny math realtards will stoop to. Stunning.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-03-02 11:01:00

Unless, of course, the new home drops from $150K to $100K, in which case our intrepid homemoaner gets handed another $20K bucket.

They’ll make it up on volume.

 
 
Comment by DudgeonBludgeon
2012-03-02 13:33:02

If the house sold for $100K it’s worth $100k not the $120k. If the house “valued” at $150k is bought for $120k it was not “valued” at $150k.

The seller/buyer guy broke even on the sale and now owes $120k for the new house. That’s it. End of story. No profit of $30k and no loss of $20k.

And let us not forget the transaction costs…

The price of a thing is the price it will bring. Say that every day at least once.

 
 
Comment by Montana
2012-03-02 09:58:17

“San Francisco’s African-Americans have been ethnically cleansed”

Wow, such a liberal place, too. Unexpected!

Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2012-03-02 12:06:32

Can’t you see they are victims?!? Their well-deserved dreams have been crushed! Just listen to their righteous entitlement:
“‘We are union members and home owners,’ she observes. ‘We have been financially assaulted.’”
Assaulted, dammit! And they are Union Members! Have we no shame? If we won’t do it for the children, we should at least do it for the Union Members.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-03-02 12:10:15

And then there’s this:

‘When high interest rates on a $250,000 loan became inflated to $525,000, …foreclosure drove her from her home.’

Don’t you hate it when that happens?

Comment by poormancometh
2012-03-02 12:24:43

That quote in the article is just sad.

Sad that someone said it, sadder that the reporter reported it, and worse that people believe it.

The financial acumen of citizens in this country has to be at all time low.

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Comment by polly
2012-03-02 14:42:51

I can *that* close to accepting a job as a math teacher in a Jersey City high school. I planned on making the little darlings do year long projects applying numbers to a problem they were interested in: comparative costs of various entertainment options (including amortizing the cost of a TV and video game console); how much money could their family save in food costs using coupons and shopping sales, how much does it really cost to have and drive a car, compare costs of save and buy,/credit card/rent to own for some large item. I wonder if anyone ever does stuff like that with kids who are growing up with parents who can’t or don’t?

I got offered a job in my area for 2 1/2 times the salary, so it never happened, but I still wonder about it.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-03-02 18:31:46

“The financial acumen of citizens in this country has to be at all time low.”

I have bad news for you, it was never that high to begin with.

Nor literacy. English comprehension above an 8th grade level is less than a majority percentage. (sorry no time to find the numbers tonight)

 
Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 19:53:28

“I planned on making the little darlings do year long projects ”

And within weeks you would have been teaching to the test. This says nothing about you.. just the system. What schools really need is these sorts of questions on the tests, so kids are forced to learn it.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-03-02 20:15:08

Lest we be too harsh on this illiterate woman; she obviously let the loan roll for what, 7 or 8 years without making a payment? Then she was forced to roll up her tent and move on. You and I spent how much over those years paying rent or mortgage? She might think we are the stooopid ones.

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Comment by Neuromance
2012-03-02 10:24:47

According to Jamie Dimon, these crashes are perfectly normal and expected:

“Not to be funny about it, but my daughter asked me when she came home from school ‘what’s the financial crisis,’ and I said, ‘Well it’s something that happens every five to seven years,”’ Dimon said. “We shouldn’t be surprised, but we need to do a better job.”

He’s sanguine and flippant about it because people like him get very wealthy during the boom and merely continue to get richer during the bust, though not as fast as during the boom.

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 10:30:04

His arrogance demonstrates how oblivious he is to the danger right outside his door.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-03-02 11:58:20

I wouldn’t shed a tear if an angry mob tore him to pieces.

 
 
Comment by Posers
2012-03-02 13:00:12

Behavior not unlike a trust fund baby.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-03-02 13:48:29

You should name names, it might be a good laugh for everybody.

 
Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-03-02 17:31:34

Poser is jealous once more. Why the class warfare Poser?

 
 
 
Comment by MrBubble
2012-03-02 13:24:10

““San Francisco’s African-Americans have been ethnically cleansed”

Wow, such a liberal place, too. Unexpected!

That’s just a bald-faced lie. If you live in/near the Western Addition, you’ll know what I am talking about.

 
Comment by cactus
2012-03-02 16:06:24

When high interest rates on a $250,000 loan became inflated to $525,000, a Bayview Mortgage Capital foreclosure drove her from her home.”

what ?

 
Comment by oxide
2012-03-02 19:59:24

Occupy has really gotten away from the original Occupy. That’s the problem with Dems — too easily taken over by the fringe. They could have marched quietly from 8 to 6 each day in their suits or blue-collar uniforms, demanding fair jobs and an end to money games that only bog boys had access to (leverage and discount windows). They could have done this for months. Instead, they insisted on camping out like it was a hippies commune, and then moved on to ACORN-like practices like defending individual homeowners who never had a leg to stand on. Idjits.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-03-02 20:23:00

They weren’t Democrats, they were just loose people without a focus. Without a focus, you’re just a blur.

It’s difficult, being pissed off, and there just being so much wrong that you can’t boil it down to one thing. Unfortunately, what galvanizes people is usually a psycopant.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-03-02 20:56:18

That’s the problem with Dems — too easily taken over by the fringe.

Totally true…of everyone, I think.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 03:46:04

“…too easily taken over by the fringe.”

My personal remedy for that situation: Ignore the bloviating fringe.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 03:33:51

“GQ’s feature on Owens also included the news that his Atlanta home is for sale and he sold a residence in New Jersey for less than half what he paid.”

I can’t help but venture a guess whether Owens is ‘our’ Eddie? Perhaps the mystery will end in the afterlife…

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 03:42:11

“Sal Poliandro, a Re/Max agent in Saddle River, N.J., who specializes in short sales, said a number of homeowners in trouble have told him they’ll wait for foreclosure rather than try for a short sale because they know they have time. ‘There are people who are just waiting it out,’ he said. ‘I decided to stay in the house until the bank takes it away,’ said a Clifton, N.J., homeowner who bought his house about six years ago but can’t pay the mortgage because his trucking business failed.”

This above all is the reason why anyone who steps up now and overpays is the banksters’ fool. They have a discrimination game going where they let their current customers pay zero and new customers pay through the nose.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 03:51:51

“Monique White faces an eviction hearing on her North Minneapolis home. Laid off from her job as a counselor, she now works two part-time jobs to try to stay afloat. She too can’t get a loan modification from her bank despite multiple attempts. She has piles of paperwork showcasing her fruitless efforts. ‘They just need to come to the table, reassess my situation and make it affordable,’ she said. ‘Because it’s not like I’m asking for anything for free.’”

Sounds to me like Monique is currently getting paid to take care of the property at a wage equal to her monthly mortgage payment, with a plan to evict her and sell the place whenever the lender gets around to it.

I’m not really clear why she thinks the lender ‘need(s) to come to the table,’ given they seem happy with the status quo arrangment?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 03:57:19

“Jones said she’s continuing on with Occupy Our Homes not just for her own cause but for her neighbors’, too. ‘I’m not [Mitt] Romney with a bag of money,’ she said.”

Would it be enough for the Obama to win the next election for his camp to simply characterize Romney as a wealthy advocate of the 1%?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:02:28

“Specifically, San Francisco’s African-Americans have been ethnically cleansed from 13.4 percent in 1970 to to 3.9 percent today.”

Puh-leaze…the correct term is ‘gentrification.’ ‘Ethnic cleansing’ is something entirely different.

gen·tri·fi·ca·tion
noun \ˌjen-trə-fə-ˈkā-shən\
Definition of GENTRIFICATION
: the process of renewal and rebuilding accompanying the influx of middle-class or affluent people into deteriorating areas that often displaces poorer residents
First Known Use of GENTRIFICATION
1964

ethnic cleansing
noun
Definition of ETHNIC CLEANSING
: the expulsion, imprisonment, or killing of an ethnic minority by a dominant majority in order to achieve ethnic homogeneity

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:06:26

“When high interest rates on a $250,000 loan became inflated to $525,000, a Bayview Mortgage Capital foreclosure drove her from her home.”

Is that a typo, or is somebody lying?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:08:56

“California’s attorney general has pressed the regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to halt foreclosures until principal writedowns are given a fair look as a way to help borrowers with delinquent loans owned by the mortgage enterprises.”

Haven’t those principle writedowns been getting a ‘fair look’ since around 2007 or so, when I recall the first HBB posts appearing to suggest that ‘cramdowns are coming’?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:10:21

‘There is no question that underwater borrowers in California would benefit from other taxpayers across the United States paying off the underwater portion of their mortgage debt. My obligation to those taxpayers, including those living in California, is to ensure that the assistance offered to borrowers facing difficulty in making their mortgage payments maximizes the opportunity to assist those borrowers at minimum cost to taxpayers.’

Bravo for big thinkers in high office!

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:29:33

“There are 368,000 pending home foreclosures in the state, and that number could double by 2016, Coffey said.”

Sounds like there may be no Florida housing bottom until some time after
the end of Obama’s second term.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:33:07

“‘Even the uncertainty related to passage of the bill can quickly hold back economic recovery,’ said Lawrence Yun, chief economist for the National Association of Realtors, which strongly backs an extension of the tax relief for forgiven mortgage debt.”

In what way does providing a tax exemption for the type of income known as debt relief qualify as fair to other taxpayers?

I realize fairness is not exactly part of the Realtor® playbook.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:36:45

“…added supply always means lower prices, so the lower prices would hamper this housing recovery,’ Yun added.”

Are ‘real estate economists’ required to take undergraduate microeconomics courses? Because I learned in my undergraduate micro course that lower prices result in a higher number of sales. I would think more sales would look something like a recovery through the eyes of a Realtor® whose income depends on selling homes, but perhaps I am missing something.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:39:33

“For example, he said, if a seller owed $100,000 on their home and it’s worth $120,000, if they can sell it for $100,000, then they might be able to buy a house valued at $150,000 that they can get it for $120,000. So they didn’t lose $20,000 when they sold their home, they made $30,000 when they bought their next home.”

Crazy maths!

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-03-03 04:41:29

‘I think the trend is, from what we hear from the national (Realtors) association, is people are buying houses now, not focusing on investment, but they are focusing on the use of the property, the enjoyment of the property. Now having said that, nobody is saying that buying a house is not a good investment, it is still a good investment.’

Don’t buy until people think you are crazy if you say that buying a house is a good investment.

 
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