April 18, 2012

This False Sense Of Security

Seacoast Online reports on New Hampshire. “Lauren Kane, president of the Seacoast Board of Realtors, said intangibles like hope and optimism are evident among customers. ‘I think the message overall is turning more confident,’ said Kane, a Realtor with ReMax Coast to Coast in Portsmouth. ‘On a national level, we’re getting through most of the problems, and affordability has been the best it’s been in years.’ In Exeter, the average price of a house went from $262,586 to $259,026. Average price of a condo went from $166,611 to $147,364. This speaks to Kane’s observation that ‘affordability is phenomenal right now.’”

“Just as surely as the spring sun will shine, so, too, will Realtors be optimistic for the season. ‘I think consumer confidence is starting to change. The uncertainly in the marketplace was one of our biggest challenges,’ Kane said. ‘They realize we’re at the bottom of the market, it won’t decline any further.’”

The Concord Monitor in New Hampshire. “Foreclosures in New Hampshire were up 9.4 percent in February over the same month in 2011, and foreclosures in the state in the first two months of 2012 ran 27.9 percent ahead of the level recorded in the first two months of 2011, according to the New Hampshire Housing Finance Authority. The authority warned in a news release, the year-over-year comparison ‘may be misleading,’ because several large lenders had observed a moratorium on foreclosure proceedings between October 2010 and last February.”

“And the agency noted that between 2007 and 2011, some 54 percent of foreclosures in New Hampshire were on mortgages that had refinanced existing debt, versus foreclosures on initial-purchase mortgages. ‘This suggests that the widely held belief that the ‘foreclosure problem’ was the result of people buying more house than they could afford was a myth,’ the authority said.”

The Hartford Business Journal in Connecticut. “Many central Connecticut builders like Mark Stidsen are confident enough about what they see in today’s housing market to try something they’ve done little of in half a decade — erect a house without a firm buyer. ‘We see things changing,’ said Stidsen, whose Landsen Construction Corp. of Glastonbury is building a 2,500-square-foot, $455,000 ’spec’ dwelling near the center of town. ‘We’ve seen an uptick and we’re jumping in.’”

The Ridgefield Press in Connecticut. “Citing fair weather, low interest rates and low home prices, agents say they’re seeing a lot more activity in recent weeks. ‘We’ve seen in the last three weeks, at least a dozen homes or more have had multiple offer situations, which was something we haven’t seen in five years,’ said John Frey, owner of Century 21. ‘There’s reason for great optimism, so I should explain to people that think ‘Great! Prices are up!’ that prices are not up. This type of activity has to happen first before we see prices rising.’”

“Bob Neumann of Neumann Real Estate said low interest rates and prices make the market attractive, especially for first-time buyers who might be looking at lower priced homes. ‘There’s a good amount of inventory, even if you want to buy a house for under $500,000. There’s over 60 houses on the market.’”

“There is an increased feeling, Laura Freed Ancona of William Pitt said, that the market could be nearing the bottom, but she said real estate, particularly home-buying, should be seen as a long-term investment. She’s seen people who have retreated from home ownership into rentals, but as their leases come due are reluctant to sign again, afraid they might miss low rates and prices. Instead of rushing back into an obligation that could lock them into rentals as prices, interest rates, or both, rise, she said they’re re-examining their options. ‘Typically you don’t know a bottom until after, and I think people are afraid to miss an opportunity,’ she said.”

The Times Herald Record in New York. “Paul Adams, an agent with Keller Williams Realty in Goshen, said he’s seeing buyer interest on the rise. ‘I’ve got to say that over the past six months, activity has been picking up.’ Adams said. ‘I think buyers may be seeing their window of opportunity narrowing.’”

“Prospective sellers sometimes expect to list at unrealistic prices based on a refinancing before the mortgage crisis or an inflated insurance estimate, said Adams of Keller Williams Realty. ‘There are two markets now,’ Adams said, ‘properties priced to sell, and other homes not competing because they’re $10,000, $20,000 more than what they should be listed for.’ He also sees would-be sellers staying out of the market, hoping for an upswing in prices. ‘If they can wait three to five years, the homes will be worth more than they are today,’ Adams said.”

The Journal News in New York. “Housing prices plummeted in the first quarter of 2012 throughout the Lower Hudson Valley. Mike Graessle, an associate broker at Better Homes and Gardens Rand Realty, said the high taxes in the region, coupled with unemployment concerns, have been very discouraging to buyers, forcing sellers to lower their asking prices. ‘A lot of sellers have been sitting with their house during the winter months and are more motivated,’ he said. ‘They’re saying, ‘I need to get rid of it.’”

“The median sale price of a Westchester single-family house was $505,500 — an 8.5 percent drop from last year’s price of $552,750. That’s the lowest price since the county first passed the $500,000 threshold in 2002.”

The Fairfield County Business Journal. “A new associate at a leading Westchester bankruptcy firm, attorney Seohee Kong was not prepared for the volume and complexity of work she has done for New York clients, who come to Rattet Pasternak L.L.P. in Harrison seek legal help in holding on to their mortgaged properties. ‘I work with four or five people a day’ who are struggling with mortgage payments or facing foreclosure. In Westchester, she is seeing ‘very well-educated’ homeowners, many with masters and doctoral degrees, including professors and financial services professionals. Some are real estate investors who bought multifamily houses at the peak of the housing market and have seen their values plummet.”

“Partner Dawn K. Arnold, who oversees the firm’s new loan modification department, said she has been surprised at the number of mortgages of more than $1 million in the county, At ‘the very beginning’ of the mortgage crisis, she said, a client came in who had been sold a house in Westchester for $750,000. He was trying to keep up the mortgage payments on a caddy’s income at Sleepy Hollow Country Club.”

“In Westchester, though, it is not low-income people saddled with ballooning subprime mortgages who account for Rattet Pasternak’s surge in business. ‘There are a ton of middle-income families here,’ said Attorney Julie Cvek. Cvek said the firms’ typical client for a mortgage modification is a married couple earning $250,000 a year, ‘but they can’t pay their bills. And they’re not overspending. That’s the cost of living in Westchester. It’s your average middle-income households.’”

“The volume still is low compared with other parts of the country, but short sales by Westchester homeowners unable to keep up payments on mortgages that exceed their home’s market value have risen notably. Broker Mark Boyland and others involved in real estate closings in the county foresee a greater increase in those sales as higher-income homeowners drain financial reserves used for mortgage payments in recent years and lenders step up foreclosure actions on distressed properties in Westchester, spurring delinquent homeowners to abandon their do-nothing approach to their case of the mortgage blues.”

“‘It’s not the norm,’ said Boyland, ‘but there’s a fair amount of people’ in the county that have not paid the mortgage on their distressed property in three or four years.”

“‘We have well over 10 years of distressed inventory in New York state,’ he said. Following the federal and state governments’ recent mortgage settlement with five major lenders, ‘You’re going to see that bankers really push through their inventory over the next two years,’ he predicted. In the lull of foreclosure actions by lenders, ‘There are a lot of people who have this false sense of security,’ Boyland said. ‘Now they’re going to have a serious wake-up call over the next 18 months.’”

The Real Deal in New York. “Over the past several years, attorneys and building managers say they’ve seen a noticeable uptick in the number of disputes between neighbors in New York City buildings. Experts point to a number of reasons for the increase in disputes. The first is financial; people who purchased or refinanced at the peak of the market are sitting on assets that are not worth what they originally paid, noted Aaron Shmulewitz, an attorney at Manhattan law firm Belkin Burden Wenig & Goldman.”

“Many owners have seen the value of their homes decline over the past few years, and disagreements with neighbors can feel like pouring salt in the wound. Other factors include shoddy boom-time construction. Shoddy or rushed work by developers during the real estate boom lead to ill-conceived floor plans and units that allow noise and smell to travel easily from one apartment to another.”

“Noise troubleshooter Alan Fierstein, founder and president of Acoustilog, said his workload has steadily increased since 2006 — the height of the building boom — when new developments were constructed quickly, often at the expense of proper structural design. ‘I don’t know if people are getting more sensitive,’ Fierstein said. ‘But they have more things to complain about.’”

The New York Daily News. “Home sales rose in the double digits in Queens and the Bronx during the first quarter of the year, as competitive prices and low interest rates brought buyers back to the table, according to a report from the Real Estate Board of New York. Queens witnessed the biggest number of sales in the quarter, 2,919, a 13% jump from a year ago. The average price of a home in the borough dipped 2% to $391,000. ‘These are areas with a lot of middle-income housing where low interest rates really make a difference,’ REBNY senior VP Mike Slattery said.”

“Among the condos enjoying strong demand are The View, which is commanding a hefty $950 per square foot, and The Industry, said Eric Benaim, CEO of Modern Spaces, which handles sales for both buildings. ‘The market is extremely busy. We are getting 25 to 40 groups of people at our open houses,’ Benaim said. ‘Almost every few weeks we raise the prices. We’ve had three to four bidding wars.’”




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Comment by Realtors Are Corrupt®
2012-04-18 05:02:54

‘On a national level, we’re getting through most of the problems, and affordability has been the best it’s been in years.’ In Exeter, the average price of a house went from $262,586 to $259,026. Average price of a condo went from $166,611 to $147,364. This speaks to Kane’s observation that ‘affordability is phenomenal right now.’”

And this week diesel fuel went from $4.30/gal to $4.26/gal. but it’s still unaffordable.

When will you realtors stop your misrepresentations? Housing is no more affordable today than in 2006. Your repetitive lies won’t change it.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2012-04-18 06:28:42

The avg price of a home in Exeter (whose market I’m pretty familiar with) went down $3500 and she’s trying to claim they’ve been through a correction? Not that I think it’s a big infuence but the Philips Exeter prep school does have some upward influence on housing prices there. Also the local hospital.

For those not familiar w/NH geography, Exeter is about a 15-20 minute drive away from Hampton Beach. That’s on a day without traffic. During the summer you’ve got to get up early to beat that bumper to bumper stuff. If you’re nervous about living next to a nuclear plant living in Exeter might not be your cup of tea. Google maps has the town as 11.1 miles away from the Seabrook nuclear plant.

 
Comment by oxide
2012-04-18 13:15:31

“Housing is no more affordable today than in 2006.”

Is “affordable” a binary value, or are in different degrees of affordable?

My house would have sold for 30-40% more in 2006 than it did last month. I couldn’t afford it then; I can afford it now. Does that count as affordable? A lucky ducky couldn’t afford it then, now, or likely ever unless they collect five incomes. Does that count as unaffordable?

Comment by Realtors Are Liars®
2012-04-18 16:14:03

Is teetering on the edge of financial suicide to buy a house affordable?

 
 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-04-18 05:19:16

Don’t you just love a dichotomy of discourse from the well-informed and omniscient real estate professionals:
In Westchester, she is seeing ‘very well-educated’ homeowners, many with masters and doctoral degrees, including professors and financial services professionals. Some are real estate investors who bought multifamily houses at the peak of the housing market and have seen their values plummet.”
Notice how the “WELL EDUCATED” bought at the Peak of the market. That shows how many STUPID people have been “well educated” and don’t know much of anything. Unfortunately, it’s those same people that have government jobs in education and government jobs ‘running’ various agencies. It’s no wonder the country is so screwed up. People believe that having a certificate makes them “smart”. How foolish.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2012-04-18 06:30:17

It might just be a matter of the “Well Educated” in education and the financial sector believing they have greater job security than the average American.

 
Comment by BetterRenter
2012-04-18 10:54:10

The well-educated are also exceptionally well-propagandized. They had to “give in” to the propaganda to be allowed to succeed in their institutions, fields and corporations. Dissenters very much tend to be booted out early.

Education and critical thinking are almost mutually exclusive now.

Comment by Carl Morris
2012-04-18 12:21:19

Certainly true in the military.

 
 
 
Comment by Bad Chile
2012-04-18 05:51:20

the average price of a house went from $262,586 to $259,026… ‘affordability is phenomenal right now.’

House purchase: $259,026
Annual maintenance on house: $10,000
Annual properties taxes on house: $4,000
Claiming that a $3,000 drop in average house price means affordability is phenomenal: priceless.

Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-04-18 13:21:15

Median household income for Exeter, NH is $50,491. Yea, that’s phenomenal affordability. Compared to what?

 
 
Comment by Dave of the North
2012-04-18 05:56:07

“At ‘the very beginning’ of the mortgage crisis, she said, a client came in who had been sold a house in Westchester for $750,000. He was trying to keep up the mortgage payments on a caddy’s income at Sleepy Hollow Country Club.””

California has strawberry pickers, New York has caddies…FBs all…

Comment by Realtors Are Corrupt®
2012-04-18 06:14:54

North Tarrytown, aka “Sleepy Hollow” is home to Rockefeller’s estate and loads of JD’s, PhD’s and MD’s. They are what floats everyone elses economy in that area. If there were ever a high rent district, this is it.

 
Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-04-18 19:12:09

“a client came in who had been sold a house in Westchester for $750,000″

Note the victim terminology. He didn’t buy a house, “he had been sold a house” like he was somehow coerced.

 
 
Comment by Realtors Are Corrupt®
2012-04-18 06:07:41

“The median sale price of a Westchester single-family house was $505,500 — an 8.5 percent drop from last year’s price of $552,750. That’s the lowest price since the county first passed the $500,000 threshold in 2002.”

For all you who think “close in areas won’t fall”, Westchester Co demonstrates the fallacy of that assertion. It doesn’t get any better than Westchester Co. The entire realtor driven “desirability” is what WC is about yet prices are cratering there.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-04-18 06:29:32

“‘We have well over 10 years of distressed inventory in New York state,’ he said. Following the federal and state governments’ recent mortgage settlement with five major lenders, ‘You’re going to see that bankers really push through their inventory over the next two years,’ he predicted. In the lull of foreclosure actions by lenders, ‘There are a lot of people who have this false sense of security,’ Boyland said. ‘Now they’re going to have a serious wake-up call over the next 18 months.’”

Sounds like New York state is looking at at least a decade of falling home prices ahead. Future affordability prospects have never been brighter.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-04-18 08:00:45

Sometimes reports say 60 years in NY or NJ; depends on how they measure it I guess. This from the Journal News piece:

‘We still have people leaving because of the taxes,” said Gary Leogrande, president of the Empire Access Multiple Listing Service. “In some cases, the taxes are 5 to 6 percent of the value of the property, and that’s a lot of money on an annual basis. It can be greater or equal to your mortgage payment.”

Sign me up! Or this: ‘Shoddy or rushed work by developers during the real estate boom lead to ill-conceived floor plans and units that allow noise and smell to travel easily from one apartment to another.’

I once helped a guy move who lived on top of a three story apartment complex. I can’t imagine living in a smelly high rise. If a cab costs a lot, imagine what getting an elevator fixed will run. I’m not sure that keeping noise/smells from getting around is even possible.

Comment by ProperBostonian
2012-04-18 19:13:33

“Sometimes reports say 60 years in NY or NJ”

Great. Their grandchildren will finally have affordable housing.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-04-18 19:39:30

It won’t take 60 years, that’s just at the current rate. Obviously something has to happen before then.

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Comment by 2banana
2012-04-18 07:56:25

I used to live in Westchester. I moved about 10 years ago.

At the time, my smaller 4 bed/1.5 bath nice colonial sold for $450k and that was typical. Taxes were over $16,000/year on my house and teachers were well into the 6 figures with golden pensions and benefits. I shudder to think what prices and taxes are today.

What I used to pay in just taxes alone in NYS now pays for my taxes/P/I and insurance on my new house.

A family income of $250,000 today is just middle class.

“In Westchester, though, it is not low-income people saddled with ballooning subprime mortgages who account for Rattet Pasternak’s surge in business. ‘There are a ton of middle-income families here,’ said Attorney Julie Cvek. Cvek said the firms’ typical client for a mortgage modification is a married couple earning $250,000 a year, ‘but they can’t pay their bills. And they’re not overspending. That’s the cost of living in Westchester. It’s your average middle-income households.’”

Comment by Realtors Are Corrupt®
2012-04-18 08:59:17

Try $25k per year for property taxes in WC.

Comment by 2banana
2012-04-18 09:45:55

And that would be for a typical, middle class house.

Public unions - the “golden class” of today’s society. Disagree and a public union goon with a gun will come a take your house.

And who are the top 7/10 of money contributors of ALL TIME? And nearly 100% to the democrat party? Public unions…

A vicious cycle that is going to collapse.

Try $25k per year for property taxes in WC.

Comment by Realtors Are Corrupt®
2012-04-18 09:58:34

Yes for a typical middleclass house.

” Disagree and a public union goon with a gun will come a take your house.”…. lmao. You are funny sometimes Banana.

Are you still in the state?

And yes…. I don’t see how this cannot collapse. It’s unsustainable.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-04-18 10:17:41

Public unions - the “golden class” of today’s society. Disagree and a public union goon with a gun will come a take your house.

My mother’s one of those goons.

Yeppers, she is. A retired school teacher who you don’t want to disagree with. She’ll pull out a couple of bananas, aim ‘em at you, and say “Stick ‘em up!”

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Comment by 2banana
2012-04-18 12:07:26

There were good germans too…

They didn’t put anyone in camps
They didn’t even join the army

But they sure went along and collected the benefits
Voted the right way in all the elections
Gave money to the right people
And kept their mouths shut

 
Comment by oxide
2012-04-18 13:19:04

I can’t BELIEVE you implied what I thought you just implied.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-04-18 10:04:30

Taxes were over $16,000/year on my house

Wow, that’s almost exactly what I pay in rent for the year. 8-/

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2012-04-18 10:05:02

“And they’re not overspending”.

Long time bloggers might remember when I used to hail from a similar community and used to report on the intensity of the living w/the Jones competition. The control it has over people’s decisins is mind boggling. What most would consider as extras, like 3rd graders w/cell phones or $45k SUVs, in these communities, these practices are all considered must haves.

It’s like my friend I reported who bought the $700 prom dress for her oldest daughter to keep up w/what others were spending and then couldn’t even buy clothes for back to school 4 short months later. Marriages might fail after it was learned that hubby had someone on the side. But just as often the bitterness began when hubby started to reign in the spending. The fear of falling from grace among their peers somehow seemed worth the sacrifice of rational thinking. In 2008 even those that complained about how materialistic our area was still bristled w/contempt at the idea their husband would try to “control” them. I saw it again and again.

Comment by WT Economist
2012-04-18 12:43:49

Most of those citing prices in Westchester are ignoring its largest municipality, the poor and working class city of Yonkers. My folks moved from Yonkers to the rest of Westchester when I was 10, and moved away when I was 16.

If there was ever a place where people feel the need to keep up with the Joneses, it is Westchester. I vowed my children would not grow up in such an environment. We considered living upstate, but there were no jobs, so we ended up in Brooklyn.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-04-18 08:02:47

-‘but they can’t pay their bills’ doesn’t sound middle class to me.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-04-18 11:04:45

Doesn’t it heavily depend on how deeply mired in debt they are?

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2012-04-18 09:26:25

test

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-04-18 10:18:57

You pass with flying colors! Welcome to the post-Tax Day HBB.

 
 
Comment by wittbelle
2012-04-18 09:48:18

“Lauren Kane, president of the Seacoast Board of Realtors, said intangibles like hope and optimism are evident among customers. ‘I think the message overall is turning more confident,’ said Kane, a Realtor with ReMax Coast to Coast in Portsmouth.

Oh my God! And you know what else, Lauren? I ride a unicorn that farts rainbows! I know! It’s super awesome!

Newsflash: Hope and optimism can’t buy groceries.
Lauren=TWIT

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-04-18 10:20:06

I ride a unicorn that farts rainbows!

Why can’t my bicycle do the same thing?

 
Comment by Bad Chile
2012-04-18 13:01:20

Hum. Farting rainbows or crapping-candy.

Can I get both in my unicorn?

Comment by Ol'Bubba
2012-04-19 04:42:44

Not if you feed it bad chili. Try feeding it skittles.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2012-04-18 14:07:58

“some 54 percent of foreclosures in New Hampshire were on mortgages that had refinanced existing debt, versus foreclosures on initial-purchase mortgages. ‘This suggests that the widely held belief that the ‘foreclosure problem’ was the result of people buying more house than they could afford was a myth,’ the authority said.”

Oh, I get it. So they didn’t exactly buy* more house than they could afford, they just HELOCed to a new mortage which they couldn’t afford. Way to split a hair and thread it through a needle, NAR.

On the other hand, I feel sorry for the new buys who foreclosed because of job loss.

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*Probably true. Didn’t a lot of “primes” buy reasonably in the 90’s and then HELOC up the wazoo to a neg-am? The NYT had an interactive chart showing it (CA was something outrageous, like 28%). Those primes showed up in the Credit Suisse chart too.

 
Comment by SmoledMan
2012-04-18 15:22:35

The question is when are near 6-figure salary jobs going to recover? Because you can’t afford these mortgages on anything less then 85K income.

 
Comment by NYCResident
2012-04-19 13:13:34

In a way, I’m glad my income was modest during the housing bubble. Otherwise I may have moved to a more expensive place in a hipper, more expensive neighborhood. Living in an Manhattan alcove studio with a Hudson River view is not so bad when you get in at 90s pricing. Property tax is a bit over $5k and annual common charges $6k. Annual rent for something comparable would be $30k (ouch). Small mortgage is being paid down rapidly because the monthly min is less than $60. No car expense, so no worry about gas. But health insurance is ridiculous in NYC at over $500/mo for a bad/cheap group plan, that is if you qualify, or over $1200/mo for an individual plan, if you don’t.

 
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