May 28, 2012

How Important Is This To Our Fragile Economy?

Readers suggested a topic on policy and recession. “‘What would be the likely impacts on U.S. housing of a potential post-election U.S. recession in 2013? I’m thinking the impact on housing would be failed intervention efforts and falling prices, but then I am a known pessimist.’ ‘The U.S. economy will likely fall into recession in the first half of 2013 if large tax increases and scheduled government spending cuts are allowed to go into effect in January, the Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday. The combination of tax increases and spending cuts, often referred to as a ‘fiscal cliff,’ would sharply reduce the federal budget deficit but would temporarily arrest the economic recovery, said the CBO, which serves as Congress’s budget calculator.’”

A reply, “Why not do it gradually over 3 years instead of all at once?”

To which was said, “Because any attempt to do it gradually will end in deadlock. The Republicans will insist on no tax increase and indeed futher tax cuts and increasing spending on the military and turning Medicare into vouchers, cutting Social Security and getting rid of ACA (assuming the Supremes don’t take care of it). Democrats will want to allow the tax increases to happen on some portion of the high earners and fix some of the wealthy loopholes and probably cut some military and fiddle with some other stuff.”

“Neither side really wants it all to happen at once, but they are so far apart on what they want to happen instead that there is no way to get to a compromise. That is why the super committee ‘failed.’ I don’t think it really did. It was set up to see if the committee could come up with something that both sides would like better than the default. It couldn’t. Serious analysts didn’t really expect it to absent really clear polling that the overwhelming majority of the electorate would blame one side or the other for the economic results of the default. It tried. It didn’t come up with anything. We get the default.”

One had this, “If they increase taxes (reducing disposable income), GDP goes down. If the government spends less (which means borrows less, since we are broke) GDP goes down.
So if one is willing to take on more debt (or lower tax rates further) for another 3 years, they can put off the recession for another 3 years. That is, unless we have actual growth that isn’t just increases in debt. But that hasn’t happened in many, many years.”

One said, “Yep. We, being the entitled society we are, have become intolerant of any pain. Afterall, even the losers get to go for ice cream and get participant trophies.”

And finally, “I see discussions about various bills moving through Congress, various initiatives designed to buoy the housing market. I read recently that over half of first time buyers are using FHA loans, while the FHA is in deep trouble. I appreciate that Congress responds first and foremost to its paymasters. But it’s still something they can’t admit out loud because it would be admitting to bribery.”

“With the various legislation moving through Congress, what kinds of questions should the legislators be asking? They always ask, ‘How will this impact investors’ aka the FIRE sector. What kinds of tests / questions should they have for housing-related legislation?”

The Mail Tribune. “Ten of 14 components used to measure Southern Oregon’s economic health declined, and another, airport passenger traffic, remained unchanged, indicating the region has yet to gain traction coming out of the Great Recession, according to the latest Rogue Valley economic index produced by the University of Oregon. ‘In general, this recovery has been slow going — and particularly slow going for regions dependent on the housing market,’ said Tim Duy, director of the Oregon Economic Forum at the University of Oregon.”

“The economic components measured in the study range from new residential construction permits to employment in several sectors. He pointed out new construction remains below past levels, something that likely won’t change until migration patterns seen until the recession return. ‘Steady inflows of new residents stimulated economic gains,’ he said. ‘That process has halted and has not been replaced.’”

“As the U.S. economy improves, Duy said, new migration will begin and create housing demand seen before the recession. “Some of the other businesses reliant on external activity will see greater growth as well,” he said. ‘That’s assuming there isn’t a disaster in Congress or in Europe.’”

The Coeur d’Alene Press. “Last Thursday, more than 10,000 Realtors met on the lawn near the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C., in an attempt to get the attention of government. The message; Home ownership matters.”

“The Federal Flood Insurance program is set to expire again in just a few days. This may create another standoff as the parties in Washington use the opportunity to leverage other agendas. The problem is that, like it did six months ago when the program last expired, it will bring many home sales to a grinding halt. Banks won’t lend money to buy homes that appear to be in danger of flooding according to maps drawn by FEMA.”

“How important is this to our fragile economy? When you consider that real estate sales account for 15 percent of our Gross National Product, it is very important. To allow the expiration of this insurance program will be very damaging indeed to the fragile and gradual recovery currently under way in many parts of the country including here in North Idaho.”

“This recovery repeats a historic cycle for real estate but the recovery period will be longer than past recessions by all accounts. Even with government flood insurance it will take awhile to dig out of the depths to which we had fallen at the end of the boom.”

“Should the flood insurance program be renewed the future of real estate is once again looking good. As we have reported here before, as a long-term investment, real estate has always paid off for those who have invested their hard-earned money for the long term while short-term ‘flippers’ often get burned as many did in 2008.”

“Driving up the cost or making financing even more difficult through the loss of the flood insurance program, particularly in the face of the newer, more restrictive zoning could deal a blow to the housing industry that could cost this nation dearly. As we all have learned to say, ‘Home Ownership Matters.’”

The Billings Gazette. “Thousands of workers chasing quick riches by flooding into the Bakken oil field have helped jump-start home sales in Billings. And the wave is starting to make Billings houses harder to find — and more expensive. At the current pace, Billings should see 300 new, single-family homes built this year, compared to 197 permits last year. But the city has a long way to go to return to the peak set in 2003 when 601 homes were built.’

“Steve Gountanis and his father built 47 homes in Arizona during the boom times when a house could appreciate $30,000 a month. But the conservative family refused invitations to build whole subdivisions, so their business didn’t fail when the housing bubble collapsed. Unless a house was pre-sold, local bankers would only lend on entry-level homes during the recession, so that’s what builders built. But Steve Gountanis, who moved back to his hometown of Billings, had his own nest egg that allowed him to bypass the banks and continue to build $350,000 homes.”

“‘When this market really took off three to four weeks ago, I was in a sweet spot. I sold three houses in one week,’ he said.”

“Whisper Ridge will have patio homes starting at $350,000 and houses starting at $400,000. Nearby, River Rock Estates subdivision will eventually have 67 homes in the $400,000 to $700,000 range.”

“At the end of April, a homebuyer who qualified could pay as little as 3.88 percent interest on a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage and 3.12 percent on a 15-year loan. That interest rate is amazing, said Myles Egan, who has been selling homes in Billings for 38 years. ‘I think what’s going to happen with the shortage of new homes is the value of existing homes will see very good appreciation this year because people don’t have a lot of choices right now,’ Egan said.”

“Despite all the positive signs on the Billings home front, this region remains tied to wider economies. ‘Billings really is doing very well and the housing is showing it,’ said president Wayne Nelson at Stockman Bank, the largest real-estate lender in Yellowstone County. ‘But we can’t operate on all eight cylinders without the national economy getting back on its feet.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 08:39:05

I thought this was interesting:

‘Billings should see 300 new, single-family homes built this year, compared to 197 permits last year. But the city has a long way to go to return to the peak set in 2003 when 601 homes were built.’

‘Steve Gountanis and his father built 47 homes in Arizona during the boom times when a house could appreciate $30,000 a month.’

Such ‘boom times’ should have been great for the economy, huh? Actually, it was a disaster. Do we learn from any of this? Remember the govt tax credits for buying a house? The increase on caps for GSE loans? Are the buyers who ‘took advantage’ of these programs now underwater? What was the benefit, other than helping the house owners get out while putting others in, and a few commission bucks for the UHS?

Comment by skroodle
2012-05-26 09:18:53

“Whisper Ridge will have patio homes starting at $350,000″

So they are building homes with no backyards because they are running short of land in Montana. hahahaha.

Comment by Jerry
2012-05-26 10:04:45

$350,000 starting price houses—- fools never learn. Please “no crying the blue ”
when you are under water again!

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 10:43:08

Yeah, and a mortgage interest deduction on that house should ease the budget problems.

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Comment by oxide
2012-05-26 17:35:53

And that $350K is for a patio home, not a house. A patio homes is basically a one-story rowhouse, and generally comes as a condo. Are they paying HOA fees on top of these outrageous prices?

For reference, $350K will buy you a 5-year-old smaller McMansion (2400 sq ft) in Frederick Md, or a very nice 1960’s tract split level (~1800 sq ft) much closer to DC.

$700K will buy you a very nice unique home in a wealthy enclave.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1501-Kersey-Ln-Rockville-MD-20854/37100699_zpid/#8

And this is Where the Jobs Are. What the heck jobs are in Billings, MT?

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Comment by nickpapageorgio
2012-05-26 19:31:48

All points the how-much-a-month crowd either fails to understand or just simply chooses to ignore. Mr Gountanis will probably have folks camping out and having fist fights over lots. This mini-bubble may be faster and eventually more devastating than its 2005 prototype.

 
Comment by Montana
2012-05-27 13:07:34

“What the heck jobs are in Billings, MT?”

Proximity to the oil boom. They’ve been through this before.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by MaaacDoc
2012-05-26 08:47:56

No, indeed we didn’t learn anything from this. Well, some of us did, but “some” always do, while the lemmings… well… lem. Think I had first comment yesterday or so saying same thing.

It’s tragic, but perhaps inevitable. Flipping things, consuming things, is how we hide our lack of a manufacturing economy, that which created an actual middle class in the 1950’s+.

Seeing consumable shelter (housing) be viewed as cash cow is the problem we discussed here going back to 2005.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 09:18:59

But this vaunted two party system tells us we gotta worry about condoms! We gotta have stimulus, keep house prices up, and protect the world from those a-rabs!

When was the last time we heard congress question the WTO, or Nafta? By now, we should have millions of middle class Mexican’s buying our, well, what ever it is we can sell them. How do you say Facebook in Spanish?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-05-26 10:33:50

How do you say Facebook in Spanish?

Se dicen Facebook. Con un acento espanol.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 10:41:23

OK how do you say Zucker?

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 10:51:48

How do you say FB in Spanish?

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Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 11:31:59

The Facebook flop does raise some relevant questions. We’ve got all these budget problems. Could it be that our economy turns out flash-in-the-pan companies instead of real growth?

And last week I pondered what all the money and hype about the IPO really meant. That was on Saturday before the stock fell off the cliff. Now I’m wondering if this is how bubble psychology ends. A tech stock without a lot of fundamentals, the boosters pushed all the usual buttons. And it fizzled almost immediately.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-05-26 11:37:29

Maybe as a culture we’re still dreaming of easy money because it’s too painful to take a hard look at what we’ve allowed to happen to our real productive industries.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-26 11:46:21

Well, yeah, it was the big lottery a few weeks ago.

We’ve got these phony bonanzas and simultaneous money shortfalls that are many times larger. The GSE’s can lose more than Facebook was priced in one quarter!

 
Comment by MaaacDoc
2012-05-26 16:39:48

There is big NY Times article that the FB premier was… brilliant. It milked all possible value to give bonus to the company, and all the “flippers” of stock expecting to make speculative fortune in two days were burned. On one level, I’d think we’d like that here. Now, if folks start buying FB for view of long term hold and long term growth, now that the flippers are singed, well, that’s a bit like our view of housing. Get rid of those who expect to make fortune in a day, let prices sink to something rational.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-05-27 09:45:49

On one level, I’d think we’d like that here.

I do like it, actually. The IPO raised money for the company, which is what it is supposed to accomplish.

It did not yield instant profits for the “well connected” Wall Street crowd—which is what usually happens.

Those short-term profits come at the expense of the company that IPO’ed; it is essentially money that they left on the table.

This time around, FB left no money on the table, and the Wall Street crowd are unhappy.

All IPO’s should be done with an “IPO pop”. Of course, they don’t need to go down this much either. :-)

 
Comment by Ol'Bubba
2012-05-27 15:59:35

I saw one article that described the Facebook IPO as a de facto secondary offering. The initial equity offering was done privately over the past two years or so and the early investors made out like bandits with the recent IPO.

One report said the investment fund owned by rockstar Bono of U2 fame received a $1.5 billion payout on his initial $90 million investment (a 16.67 to 1 payout). Didn’t Goldman Sachs cash out over a billion dollars on the IPO?

The point is that the well connected insiders, many of them with Wall Street backgrounds, did very well and left a lot of the little guys holding the bag.

 
Comment by skroodle
2012-05-27 21:35:40

Goldman was shutout of the FB IPO - they were listed 3rd. No millions for them!

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-05-26 08:56:58

The Coeur d’Alene Press. “Last Thursday, more than 10,000 Realtors met on the lawn near the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C., in an attempt to get the attention of government. The message; Home ownership matters.”

So should we refer to DC as “the land of 10,000 realtors”?

Comment by Realtors Are Thieving Pukes®
2012-05-26 20:09:17

I think “Cesspool of Corruption, Bribes, Thievery, Smoke and Mirrors” is the proper description.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 23:45:14

“…more than 10,000 Realtors met on the lawn near the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C. …”

The “Million” Realtors March?

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2012-05-27 09:46:55

The “Million” Realtors March?

LOL… Awesome. :-)

 
 
 
Comment by skroodle
2012-05-26 09:06:21

Tax increase??? Only the little people pay taxes!!

Turnbull queries Google tax bill
May 26, 2012

Internet giant Google has refused to explain why it paid just $74,176 in Australian tax last year, despite making an estimated $1 billion in revenue from the Australian market.

http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/business-it/turnbull-queries-google-tax-bill-20120525-1zak4.html#ixzz1vzaLRdfF

Comment by BetterRenter
2012-05-26 11:36:43

What’s to explain? The tax system in the West was designed by rich people and big corporations, to benefit themselves. Isn’t the corporate tax code at the U.S. federal level about 60000 pages, alone? That’s for thousands and thousands of loopholes.

A big corporation can afford to hire a tax accountant $150K per year to save it millions in tax liabilities each year. But you? Not so much. About all the working man can afford is a $200 tax-preparation fee.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 10:35:22

“That is why the super committee ‘failed.’ I don’t think it really did. It was set up to see if the committee could come up with something that both sides would like better than the default. It couldn’t. Serious analysts didn’t really expect it to absent really clear polling that the overwhelming majority of the electorate would blame one side or the other for the economic results of the default. It tried. It didn’t come up with anything. We get the default.”

Which, by the way, will represent austerity, American style.

This prospect, along with the incipient Grexit, helps explain plummeting recent Treasury yields. For instance, the 30-year Treasury yield touched the lowest level of the year over the last few days: 2.80%, despite the absence of QE3.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 10:42:55

I am trying to figure out how last week’s 30-year Treasury yield, which touched 2.80, compares to the record low. The lowest level I could find on the Treasury dot gov web site was 2.60, near the end of 2008 (remember the fall 2008 financial collapse?).

Here is the data from year-end 2008; if anyone can find a lower 30-year Treasury yield on record, please post.

Date 1 mo 3 mo 6 mo 1 yr 2 yr 3 yr 5 yr 7 yr 10 yr 20 yr 30 yr
12/01/08 0.09 0.07 0.44 0.81 0.90 1.16 1.71 2.13 2.72 3.51 3.22
12/02/08 0.04 0.06 0.42 0.77 0.90 1.12 1.65 2.08 2.68 3.47 3.18
12/03/08 0.02 0.02 0.35 0.70 0.87 1.07 1.60 2.03 2.67 3.45 3.17
12/04/08 0.01 0.02 0.26 0.61 0.82 1.02 1.51 1.93 2.55 3.35 3.06
12/05/08 0.02 0.02 0.23 0.54 0.93 1.19 1.67 2.09 2.67 3.41 3.11
12/08/08 0.01 0.03 0.28 0.53 0.97 1.27 1.76 2.17 2.77 3.45 3.16
12/09/08 0.04 0.03 0.25 0.49 0.84 1.15 1.61 2.03 2.67 3.35 3.06
12/10/08 0.00 N/A 0.21 0.49 0.86 1.21 1.62 2.05 2.69 3.39 3.09
12/11/08 0.00 0.01 0.22 0.51 0.79 1.11 1.55 1.99 2.64 3.35 3.07
12/12/08 0.03 0.02 0.21 0.50 0.78 1.05 1.55 1.98 2.60 3.36 3.07
12/15/08 0.00 0.03 0.28 0.50 0.75 1.02 1.50 1.92 2.53 3.29 2.98
12/16/08 0.05 0.04 0.23 0.45 0.65 0.88 1.34 1.77 2.37 3.16 2.86
12/17/08 0.03 0.05 0.19 0.45 0.73 0.98 1.35 1.70 2.20 3.01 2.66
12/18/08 0.03 N/A 0.15 0.43 0.68 0.92 1.26 1.59 2.08 2.86 2.53
12/19/08 0.00 0.02 0.14 0.44 0.74 1.02 1.35 1.66 2.13 2.89 2.55
12/22/08 0.01 0.01 0.27 0.40 0.87 1.12 1.40 1.70 2.16 2.92 2.60
12/23/08 0.01 0.02 0.26 0.41 0.90 1.13 1.53 1.81 2.18 2.93 2.63
12/24/08 0.00 N/A 0.23 0.40 0.90 1.14 1.54 1.83 2.20 2.94 2.63
12/26/08 0.01 0.03 0.23 0.38 0.89 1.08 1.51 1.80 2.16 2.91 2.61
12/29/08 0.04 0.06 0.25 0.36 0.78 0.96 1.45 1.75 2.13 2.94 2.63
12/30/08 0.11 0.10 0.26 0.34 0.75 0.94 1.47 1.76 2.11 2.88 2.58
12/31/08 0.11 0.11 0.27 0.37 0.76 1.00 1.55 1.87 2.25 3.05 2.69

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 10:50:15

I guess I haven’t had enough coffee, as it appears this was the lowest yield in 2008:

12/18/08 0.03 N/A 0.15 0.43 0.68 0.92 1.26 1.59 2.08 2.86 2.53

 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-26 12:20:00

This is an interesting topic, the $1.2 trillion new cuts to be announced in January 2013. The spending cuts and tax increases are inevitable. The sad thing is that our democracy produced the mob rule mentality of asking for more nanny state and leave the bills to later generations. The same mentality of Congress. Some people in Congress are new and did not vote on most of the nanny state programs. Some programs have been around longer than four decades.

The fallout of higher taxes and less government spending will first hit Washington D.C. Official unemployment has been the lowest during the GR, but it’s going to become probably higher than 12%.

Of course, real estate will hit a downturn again. But the average Joe does not want that to happen.

GR part 2 on the way…2013 through 2016?

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 15:38:09

But don’t you see the upside? Super-low Treasury yields, with no need to ever invoke QE3…

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-05-26 16:03:15

Good time for some infrastructure development and repair- god knows we need it. That’s cheap money for long-term investment.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-05-28 09:57:37

I’d like to see the issuance of Infrastructure Bonds. They’d be like US Savings Bonds or those War Bonds from WWII.

And, yes, I’d buy some of those bonds. Oh, yes I would.

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-26 18:30:18

PB, You mean the interest rates would stay low, which also means a continuation of the bull market on long term bonds. This is why even though I’m a stock enthusiast, I hedge with my tax state’s tax free bonds (of course, when in another state with an income tax, I pay that state’s income tax on Arizona municipals. But still no federal tax).

Back in the 70s my parents knew some wealthy orange grower in Fresno county who was earning $30,000 per month interest on his California municipal bond holdings. I never forgot that. Today that would be equivalent to maybe $150,000 per month. Sadly my income is just above $600.00 and my treasuries earn me over $350.00. I can dream though! If I was earning $30,000 per month on California municipal bonds I would be laughing at the Franchise Tax Board thugs!

And no, I never vote for any bond measure in any referendum. I always vote against creating more bonds. It’s the socialist nanny staters who are providing tax free income to people such as my dad’s late friend, and me.

Comment by JQ
2012-05-26 22:24:05

The 70’s was a period when you could get a great interest rate on your savings. Savers were rewarded and debtors were punished. A lot of this was related to the U.S. being on the gold standard. You actually had to play by the rules back then.

Today we live in a grand economic experiment conducted by our Federal Reserve; very similar to Frankenstein. - we all know how that turned out….

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Comment by skroodle
2012-05-27 10:55:17

With inflation skyrocketing to 15%, I do not think savers were really being rewarded during the 70s…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by michael
2012-05-26 12:28:34

Wait a second…didn’t someone post here just the other day that the CBO numbers show that if congress does nothing it’s happy days again…but now if they do nothing the CBO numbers show the U.S. going over a financial cliff?

man…economics is hard.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-26 21:16:55

I found a recent link about this sequestration:

http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-and-defense-policy/defense/sequestration-is-more-likely-than-you-think/

The cuts won’t be all at once, but in defense, it will be from $60 billion to $100 billion per year over ten years.

On reading it I like the idea of spending cuts without tax increases. President Obama promises to veto any measures to increase spending in defense without tax increases to compensate. As a capitalist and Ron Paul supporter, I think sole spending cuts and no tax increases are in line with what Ron Paul would want. So the President is promising to be Paulish. The R3volution is at hand!

Oh and if you read the link, the “light sequestration” is already starting. The pre sequestering will be in October of this year, not January.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 23:48:13

If Romney gets elected, he will earmark defense spending to avoid those scheduled cuts.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 23:52:58

Experts Skeptical of Romney’s Defense Budget Plans
Senator Tom Coburn, a top fiscal conservative, worries Republicans won’t have stomach for federal cuts
By Rebekah Metzler
May 24, 2012

Mitt Romney’s campaign plans for increasing military spending while reducing the deficit are being met with skepticism by industry experts, while one top Senate GOP deficit hawk says his party lacks leaders willing to attack federal spending head-on.

Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, took the primary campaign trail this year decrying defense spending cuts proposed by the Obama administration and promoting a plan to increase American troop rolls by 100,000, increase Navy shipbuilding and modernize Air Force crafts. His plan for overall deficit reduction calls for cutting other parts of the budget, not defense.

But Sen. Tom Coburn, author of The Debt Bomb, and one Congress’ most fiscally conservative members, is calling for the opposite of increased defense spending.

I’ve been to lots of military bases and talked to everything from four-star generals all the way down to privates and when I ask them this question, no one of them has told me ‘no,’ and it’s been thousands of them,” he said recently at an event at the Heritage Foundation. “If you had to tomorrow, without affecting our readiness or in strength, could you cut 10 to 15 percent out of your budget? Nobody’s ever told me ‘No.

Coburn said too many Republicans aren’t willing to make defense spending cuts because of ideology.

“The last place we need to not do oversight and hold people accountable is the Pentagon,” he said. “Yet we have this Republicanism that (says), ‘Oh, just throw dollars at the military and never hold anybody accountable.’”

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Comment by skroodle
2012-05-27 10:58:29

So does the Pentagon fear will attack and invade the US?

Afghanastan? Syria? Yemen?

Those guys are no doubt scrambling to find some enemies right now.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-05-28 12:12:44

Those guys are no doubt scrambling to find some enemies right now.

I have a friend who once worked in pretty high-up areas of defense. Finding enemies, real or imagined, is a major activity.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-28 19:56:39

I know all about that Arizona Slim. Unfortunately it’s been a recurrent theme with the RP. McCarthyism in the 50s and then the neo-conservatism which took hold starting in the 80s.

Of course this does not include the bright spots of Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater, and Ron Paul.

BTW: I am always proud to fly out of Terminal 4 in Phoenix. The Barry M Goldwater terminal.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-26 13:19:57

I guess I did not see the link that the spending cuts in 2013 will happen all at once, as opposed to over a decade. Can anyone substantiate that?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-05-26 15:35:37

“I read recently that over half of first time buyers are using FHA loans, while the FHA is in deep trouble.”

I’m missing the reason this is a problem. As we saw in Fall 2008, the GSEs were taken over and have been used to funnel money into the housing market at a mere cost of $180 bn to the taxpayer.

If the GSEs could be turned into taxpayer-funded zombies, why isn’t the same recourse available to resolve the deeply troubled FHA?

 
Comment by Realtors Are Thieving Pukes®
2012-05-26 20:03:15

‘Home Ownership Matters.’

You mean sales commissions at inflated prices “matter”….. you fawkin liars.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-28 06:57:08

How important is moral hazard?

‘U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigators have concluded their probe of possible financial fraud at Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. without recommending enforcement action against the firm or its former executives, according to an excerpt of an internal agency memo. Under a heading reading “Activity in Last Four Weeks,” the undated document reads, “The staff has concluded its investigation and determined that charges will likely not be recommended.”

SEC officials didn’t dispute the authenticity of the memo or its contents.

Pressure on the agency to punish any wrongdoing related to Lehman’s collapse escalated after Anton Valukas, the court- appointed bankruptcy examiner, found the firm misled investors with “accounting gimmicks” that disguised its leverage.’

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2012-05-28 08:59:26

Loyds of London is preparing for the collapse of the Euro. I do not have a link. But if Loyds is planning on that, you know it will happen. Greeks are in their fifth year of recession. IMF president says to the Greeks: buck up! You had it made, so you have to pay for all those goodies you got. She said she is more concerned with children in Niger than with Greeks. I can see her point. But suppose you are a Greek libertarian, never voted for a handout. Would you buck up? I doubt it. Collectivism is when you punish the innocent along with the guilty.

And I will write in Ron Paul for POTUS this November.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-05-28 18:48:39

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9292511/Lloyds-of-London-preparing-for-euro-collapse.html

BTW, you may not have to write anyone in. Don’t believe the MSM. Even Republicans don’t like Romney. Get out the vote in Texas tomorrow! Get out the vote in California!

 
 
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