The Expectation That Created A Sense Of Crisis
The Detroit Free Press reports on Michigan. “Dawn Mueller, a Realtor with Coldwell Banker Weir Manuel in Northville, said the market is fast-paced on both ends. She said in the past month, she’s listed two houses that attracted multiple offers and went for at or above asking price. ‘On the other end, it’s a disaster. If it comes on the market, you have to be there in 24 hours to see it,’ Mueller said. ‘You have to be on the fly all the time. It’s so crazy and busy.’”
“Charlie Lutz, a Realtor with Re/Max First in Clinton Township, has been working with a number of people who can’t sell for what they owe and are instead buying another home first and then trying to get their bank to approve a short sale. He helped a St. Clair Shores couple relocate to a larger home in Oakland County recently. They owe more than $120,000 on the brick ranch that is on the market for around $70,000.”
“He said that 1,200-square-foot ranch homes in good condition can sell for $95,000 while those that need some updating are going for $70,000. And bank foreclosures of similar size are selling for $30,000 to $50,000. ‘All of the cities in Macomb County have houses under $100,000,’ Lutz said.”
The Journal Sentinel in Wisconsin. “Home sales jumped 18.9% in May from May 2011, the 11th consecutive month of a double-digit increase from the same month a year earlier, the Wisconsin Realtors Association said Monday. At the same time, the median home sale price in the state rose 1.5% in May to $138,000. ‘I think we’re starting finally to get people saying, ‘You know, life goes on. I’m going to have to have a place to live. I can basically lock in my cost of housing for the next 30 years at 4%.’ You’d be insane almost not to take advantage of that,’ said Jim Smith, president of W.E. Smith Realty Inc., in Appleton.”
The Springfield News Sun in Ohio. “Foreclosure actions in the Springfield area grew significantly last month as lenders worked to get a backlog of distressed properties off their books. Tina Koumoutsos, executive director of the Neighborhood Housing Partnership of Greater Springfield, says that while the filings are new, many of the people have been delinquent on home payments for months, sometimes years.”
“Koumoutsos cited a period when banks were unable to do foreclosures. ‘There was a moratorium on foreclosures so banks were in a holding pattern,’ she said. ‘There were a lot of delinquent accounts and now they are taking foreclosure action.’”
The St. Louis Post Dispatch. “When J. D. Tucker and his domestic partner split up, he became a single father with five adopted children, and only one income. It wasn’t enough to pay the mortgage on their south St. Louis home. He bought it at the height of the housing boom. He owed $265,000 on a house now valued at only about $155,000.”
“Tucker put out a for-sale sign last fall asking for $220,000 on his city home. ‘Everybody said it was too high for the neighborhood,’ said Tucker, so they began steadily dropping it. ‘When we got into the $160,000s, I said I can’t believe this house isn’t being snapped up.’”
“Then came an offer for $155,000, and they took it to the bank. His lender said it would take the offer if Tucker signed a promissory note for $30,000 – a little less than a third of the deficiency. After more bargaining, they cut it to $10,000 and Tucker agreed. Last week, Tucker was packing up to move. ‘I’m happy with it. Ultimately I’m glad it’s going to be over,’ said Tucker. ‘I never in a million years thought I’d be in the situation I’m in.’”
The Times Online in Indiana. “Some 11 million U.S. homeowners remain ‘underwater’ on their mortgages, according to CoreLogic. In local markets such as Dyer, Portage, Griffith, Hammond and Gary, price drops have been steeper than the overall region median. In Chicago’s southeast suburbs, price drops have been even greater than those nationally. In Gary, the median selling price of a home dropped last year to $11,900 from $46,500 in 2004. The drop in Gary was matched by Calumet City, where the median price fell last year to $37,000 from $130,000 five years ago.”
“But it is not just the decline in prices that created a sense of crisis in housing markets. Contributing greatly was the expectation, based on long experience, that home values always would appreciate. Between 1991 and the end of 2007, home prices nationally appreciated 5.5 percent annually and never fell in any single three-month period during that time, according to the Federal Housing Finance Agency’s Home Price Index.”
“In the early years of the housing crisis, Realtors strenuously objected to the use of median selling prices as a barometer for home values. They said those numbers were skewed by the high numbers of foreclosures and distressed properties on the market. But not so much anymore. ‘In 2008, you could stand here and say, ‘Well that was a foreclosure, so you can’t compare it,’ Realtor Zeke Morris said recently while standing outside a home for sale in South Holland. ‘Now, 70 percent of the market here is foreclosures.’”
From Progress Illinois. “Five years after the housing bubble disastrously burst, federal and local government has tried, with limited success, to address each new wave of the foreclosure crisis. In Chicago and Cook County, the focus is increasingly on the surging number of properties vacated because of foreclosure. Cook County Commissioner Bridget Gainer proposed in May a county ‘land bank’ for which a quasi-governmental organization will seize and then manage properties until they can be put into productive use.”
“In Cleveland, properties were sold to churches and hospitals, redeveloped into rental sites, or simply rehabbed by the city to eliminate blight. In many instances, financial institutions actually paid the county land bank to get rid of the property. ‘There is evidence that not only are financial institutions willing to transfer responsibilities, but they are interested because these have become a liability for the bank,’ says Adam Gross, director of the regional affordable housing initiative at Business and Professional People for the Public Interest in Chicago.”
The Chicago Tribune in Illinois. “Declaring that things are getting better in Chicago, Donald Trump is moving forward to fill the empty commercial portions of his Trump International Hotel and Tower. The market for Trump’s 339 hotel-condo units, aimed at investors, has ground to a halt and less than half the units are sold, but the residences continue to attract buyers, said Gail Lissner, a VP at Appraisal Research Counselors.”
“Trump said he feels no urgency to start cutting prices on the condos. The 89th floor penthouse, a raw space, was recently listed for $32 million, making it the most expensive Chicago residence in the local multiple listing service.”
“Celebrity hairstylist Anthony Cristiano is shooting for a mid-July opening of a 3,400-square-foot salon on the building’s mezzanine level. The black and white salon will offer manicures, pedicures and haircuts, priced at $85 to $200. A haircut from him costs $350. ‘We’re friendly,’ he said. ‘I didn’t want to make us so exclusive that no one could afford us.’”
From Slate. “Earlier this month on the website Hooked on Houses, former ‘House Hunters’ participant Bobi Jensen called the show a sham. Jensen writes that the HGTV producers found her family’s plan to turn their current home into a rental property ‘boring and overdone,’ and therefore crafted a narrative about their desperation for more square footage. What’s more, producers only agreed to feature Jensen’s family after they had bought their new house, forcing them to ‘tour’ friends’ houses that weren’t even for sale to accommodate the trope of ‘Which one will they choose?’”
“‘House Hunters’ was always much more about showing us an attainable reality than a fantasy. The show (and its many iterations), in which people just like us go shopping for the best home their money can buy, not only glorifies the dream of home ownership but makes it seem achievable. This plays right into our inexplicably unwavering attachment to home ownership: Despite the collapse of the housing market, polling continues to demonstrate that we regard owning a home as the cornerstone of the American Dream, a perception that undoubtedly played a role in the home-buying craze prior to the bubble’s burst.”
“Doesn’t HGTV have some obligation to portray the housing market as it is? Maybe they could fix this whole mess and wipe the slate clean with a good old-fashioned ‘where are they now’ episode, showing us the truth after those mortgage payments start taking a toll.”
Want to sell? Cut the price. Need to sell more? Cut the price more.
As for the insanity of not locking in housing costs at 4.0%, the question is what is the monthly payment, taxes, insurance, heat, hot water and maintenance relative to rent. That’s what you are locking in at.
It was a good deal for us in 1994.
You can’t “lock in” any of that besides principal/interest payment around here..
Doesn’t HGTV have some obligation to portray the housing market as it is?
We have to look at the relationship between HGTV and NAR before we ask this question. Is NAR paying bribes to HGTV in the same way they do to congressmen?
First we probably better figure out whether the newscasts have that obligation. Then we can talk about entertainment shows.
They did have that show with bald Realtor in DC that take owners to comps to make them see how over priced thier piece of crap house was.
I think realty was too hard for viewers to watch.
And there is that new show “worlds worst tennants”.
Brought up many times on this blog…
“Doesn’t HGTV have some obligation to portray the housing market as it is? Maybe they could fix this whole mess and wipe the slate clean with a good old-fashioned ‘where are they now’ episode, showing us the truth after those mortgage payments start taking a toll.”
This bidding-war crap is all clearly being coordinated to make sure Americans “feel good” for the November election. Plan on significant price collapses in 2013, after politicians are safely re-elected.
Our world is upside down. People feel good about HIGHER prices for what they buy (as long as its housing).
Our world is upside down.
It’s Bizarro world. Just do what Frank Costanza said, exactly the opposite of what you think you should do.
“This plays right into our inexplicably unwavering attachment to home ownership: Despite the collapse of the housing market, polling continues to demonstrate that we regard owning a home as the cornerstone of the American Dream, a perception that undoubtedly played a role in the home-buying craze prior to the bubble’s burst.”
What made home ownership so great was that it really did define liberty, despite the connection to land. Property taxes and building codes weren’t the onerous load they are today, worker mobility not as necessary, and nobody knew what an “HOA” was.
Today, however, this thing is no longer about liberty. It’s about profit, which is a very different animal. So people have skipped the liberty part, and have accepted a significant amount of slavery to the banks, in their seeking profit from flipping housing.
This has all gone as far as it can go, from the individual’s standpoint. So that sort of crap must change before we can recover. We need to stop thinking of housing as a profit center for the American family. But that’s going to take a very long time to flush out, and it’s going to run face-first into the nationalization-of-housing movement as well as petroleum starvation.
Interesting bit about Gary. I have relatives who have lived for decades in northwest Indiana. For many years one of them, a former steelworker, gave me a “Gary tour,” in which we drove past memorable locations in the city from his childhood and teen years, now boarded up, razed, or otherwise derelict: a park where he would take his future wife, schools he attended, houses where he lived, and the principal movie theater. We parked the car and walked up to the theater, now deserted with tall weeds growing through cracks in the sidewalk outside. My relative recalled crowds of people dressed in their best and lined up around the block on Saturday evenings, waiting for a picture show.
It was a good lesson in boom and bust. The rich land of today may be wasteland sooner than anyone thinks. There are some excellent photo galleries on Gary showing industrial ruins, including the First Presbyterian Church, which as recently as the 1970s had a congregation of two thousand.
Back in 2005-06 a co-worker came back from a work trip to Chicago telling me that developers were puffing up the Gary lakefront on Lake Michigan as the next big thing.
A friend created a similar gallery called 100 Abandoned Houses of Detroit.
I haven’t seen that one, but I have seen “The Fabulous Ruins of Detroit.” Some of those old factories were beautiful structures. So was the train station, and numerous old apartment buildings and hotels. Why can’t we build things like that now? Does everything have to be ugly here?
My opinion, voiced many times on this blog, is that places like Detroit have hit bottom. They might stay on the bottom for awhile, but they won’t get worse. Florida, on the other hand, has peaked. There’s nowhere to go but down.
The rich land of today may be wasteland sooner than anyone thinks.
And this very simple truth eludes most of the public. Yet it is so true.
Yes, I could show you many places in Texas that were complete boom towns in the early 80’s where almost no one lives anymore.
The northeast and New England are dotted with industrial area boomtowns that are merely a dot on a map now.
Tech towns are the next in line.
I just took a walk down memory lane to Gary, Indiana’s neighboring town of Hammond, Indiana, where I used to visit my grandmother at her house a block away from State Line Street as a child. I always thought it was cool that you could walk a hundred feet or so out her door across the state line from Indiana to Illinois. I have fond memories of the calm urban feel of the older middle-class neighborhood where she lived when I was a child, and where her oldest son, my uncle, mom’s big brother, lived just around the block from her to look after her affairs in widowhood.
Sadly, it looks like the real estate depression has really clobbered Hammond, with a large inventory of homes on the market at fire sale prices.
“The rich land of today may be wasteland sooner than anyone thinks.”
Thank you. One of my favorite poems.
‘More than half of delinquent borrowers who received mortgage modifications were behind on payments again 18 months later, according to a new analysis from the credit reporting company TransUnion. Yet the study also found that borrowers who receive modifications are more likely to continue paying other debt, like auto loans or credit cards, that they obtained after falling behind on their mortgages.’
‘Steve Chaouki, group vice president for financial services at TransUnion, said the analysis showed that some borrowers were still able to handle new credit, even after falling behind on a mortgage loan and obtaining a modification. In contrast with the past, he said, people are more likely to let their mortgage loan become delinquent so they can stay current on credit cards and auto loans. That’s probably because people usually need their cars to get to work, he said, and because car values are currently high - unlike many people’s homes, which have lost value. “People are making different choices,” he said.’
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-borrowers-fall-behind-again-182106826.html
‘people usually need their cars to get to work’
Plus no expects them to pay for the roof over their head.
Best interest of Hgtv to put a happy face on the housing market, not good business to air despair everyday.
Take these shows with a grain of salt, after all right up to the end Enron told the employees “all is well keep investing.”
BTW…. loan mod folks are in the middle of the ocean with a inter tube they think it will save them “not”?
… In Gary, the median selling price of a home dropped last year to $11,900…
Wow. That is shocking. $12k for a house. A median house. I have to imagine that the build quality is sub-par, the neighbors are poverty-stricken, and the local infrastructure is in poor condition. On the other hand, you do have access to fresh water. Maybe Gary can make a comeback as an artists’ colony, or something.
Odd fact: economist Joseph Stiglitz was born in Gary (1943) and lived there until university. Also Paul Samuelson is from there.
Maybe Gary can make a comeback as an artists’ colony, or something.
Didn’t Asbury Park, NJ make that sort of comeback?
Speaking of which, that is what’s happening in mine own nabe. Believe me, I’m not the only artiste around here. Within easy walking distance are two sculptors, the lead singer in a very good local band, another band that lives communally, and on and on it goes.
One problem is that the entire area, largely de-industrialized, has retained a distinct heavy industrial odor. Maybe the state can offer relocation incentives to a perfume manufacturer.
Another famous native son: Michael Jackson.
and we know how that turned out…
‘The Springfield News Sun in Ohio. “Foreclosure actions in the Springfield area grew significantly last month as lenders worked to get a backlog of distressed properties off their books.”‘
Is Homer Simpson at risk of getting foreclosed?
“Charlie Lutz, a Realtor with Re/Max First in Clinton Township, has been working with a number of people who can’t sell for what they owe and are instead buying another home first and then trying to get their bank to approve a short sale. He helped a St. Clair Shores couple relocate to a larger home in Oakland County recently. They owe more than $120,000 on the brick ranch that is on the market for around $70,000.”
How the fawk do you get a new loan when you are $50,000 underwater on the old one?
“He said that 1,200-square-foot ranch homes in good condition can sell for $95,000 while those that need some updating are going for $70,000. And bank foreclosures of similar size are selling for $30,000 to $50,000. ‘All of the cities in Macomb County have houses under $100,000,’ Lutz said.”
If I lived there, I would go for the $30,000 price tag home.
“You’d be insane almost not to take advantage of that,’ said Jim Smith, president of W.E. Smith Realty Inc., in Appleton.”
You’d be insane to believe anything a member of the National Association of liaRs said.
“Declaring that things are getting better in Chicago, Donald Trump is moving forward to fill the empty commercial portions of his Trump International Hotel and Tower.”
Screw Trump and all of his harebrained real estate investing scams.
“Despite the collapse of the housing market, polling continues to demonstrate that we regard owning a home as the cornerstone of the American Dream, a perception that undoubtedly played a role in the home-buying craze prior to the bubble’s burst.”
Most amazing aspect of this thread that Ben put together: It could have been from any year of the past five. The extend-and-pretend housing market is moribund and is holding America back from recovery.
A haircut from him costs $350. ‘We’re friendly,’ he said. ‘I didn’t want to make us so exclusive that no one could afford us.’”
good to know a $350 haircut is priced for the common people