September 14, 2012

It Is Price That The Borrower Is Getting Married To

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Lack of housing inventory to feed consumer demand is a growing concern in San Diego County and statewide, a chief housing economist told local Realtors. Leslie Appleton-Young, with the California Association of Realtors, said competition for homes began to heat up earlier this year in light of declining foreclosure resales and increased investor activity. ‘The market is in the process … of healing,’ she told local real estate pros at a housing summit held by the San Diego Association of Realtors.”

“Lawrence Yun, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, highlighted San Diego’s lack of housing construction due to an issue that’s specific to this county. ‘You’re running out of land,’ said Yun.”

“In July, Los Angeles metro and Inland Empire real estate agents had, respectively, 3.6 and 3.4 months’ worth of unsold homes on the market. Those numbers, from the California Association of Realtors, are about half the inventory levels that can be expected to be on the market during normal conditions. Marty Rodriguez, who owns the Century 21 Marty Rodriguez office in Glendora, expects to see another round of foreclosures take place.”

“‘When you have people in their house for two years without making a payment, we’re sending the wrong message,’ she said.”

“Tamara Harris and her neighbors are gambling that lenders won’t foreclose on their Spanish-style homes in the Las Vegas neighborhood of Southern Highlands. Harris stopped paying her mortgage three years ago after her accounting business lost its biggest client and her home’s value plummeted 52 percent. Some neighbors are also delinquent on their mortgages. ‘There are so many people like me who aren’t paying their mortgage so they can buy groceries and gas,’ said Harris, who was rejected for loan modification programs. ‘It’s creating this whole false economy.’”

“Some 20 Occupy Eugene activist volunteers turned out at the group’s current occupation site: the yard of a Eugene house in foreclosure and empty for more than two years. RealtyTrac reported that 673 Lane County households received a foreclosure notice between January 1 and June 30, 2012. Among them is a River Road area house Occupy volunteer Vickie Embree purchased in 2008 — just before the bottom fell out of the national housing market. ‘I never thought this would be me,’ Embree said. ‘The last two homes I bought, I left with a bunch of money to put toward my next house. I bought this house for $190,000,’ she said. ‘I still owe $170,000, and it’s only worth $130,000.’”

“To live out his retirement years, He Zhongkui was counting on steady income from an investment that promised interest payments five times higher than what he could earn in a Chinese bank. Now He is cutting back on food and gasoline, having found himself one of a growing number of victims of China’s nebulous world of shadow banking. A ‘friend,’ who he said had been paying him 2,400 yuan ($379) a month after He gave him one-third of his 600,000-yuan life savings to invest in real estate, suddenly disappeared. So did the payments and principal.”

“‘I called, but the number was no longer in existence,’ said He. ‘I went to his home, but nobody was there. I was even invited to his daughter’s wedding, for heaven’s sake. It was all a scam.’”

“Facing severe budget shortfalls, a number of local governments in China are attempting to sell large parcels of land in order to raise revenues, but not every region will be able to sell land. Only in the coastal cities where development has been good can the government sell land, said Cheng Xiaonong, a Chinese economist who resides in the United States. ‘[To name an example], in Shaoyang City, Hunan Province, the unemployment rate is as high as 88 percent. No real estate company wants to buy land there because the houses won’t sell,’ said Xiaonong.”

“China built Australia last year — 1.9 billion square metres of residential floor space. Actually, that’s not quite true — the total floor space of all of Australia’s housing isn’t quite that big. In the previous 15 years, China pretty much built Europe as 300 million people or so moved from the farms and villages into cities. And the really neat thing is that they’re going to do it again in the next 20 years, which means they’re going to be buying a lot more iron ore and coking coal. Yes, Twiggy, Gina and Marius, there is a Santa Claus and he speaks Mandarin.”

“At this stage the China bears inevitably start growling about bubbles and over-building and ghost cities and empty luxury unit towers and, as usual, they’re a little bit right but mostly wrong. It’s never simple, which is what makes it all interesting and makes foolish or political those who want to reduce arguments to three-word chants and only see the dark lining in silver or even gold clouds.”

“Being on ‘the list‘ is a fabled concept, especially in September in Toronto when the film and fashion movers are sequestered in glamorous exclusivity behind velvet ropes. And now King Street condo agents M5V has taken that desire to be part of the privileged inner circle and made it pay. To get into M5V’s parties — where they’re selling condos on the spot — you have to be on the list. M5V is taking a page from the VIP-events playbook to keep folks signing on the dotted line — cocktails, masseuses, DJs, violinists, photo booths, flipbook booths, sushi from BloFish, a gossip columnist tweeting live updates, not to mention free furniture or paint jobs for your new condo.”

“‘We have a list, a tight list, of about 500 active names, downtown professionals, actively looking to buy a condo in this hot zone,’ says Co-founder Sherard McQueen. ‘They are as young as 24, and some are in their 40s with families. About 40 per cent are looking for investment purposes.’”

“The M5V approach has its critics, who make the obvious arguments that prospective buyers get swept up in the party atmosphere and might awake next morning with something worse than a hangover: buyer’s remorse. ‘Event-based selling, in my opinion, is problematic,’ says Paul Johnston, of Unique Urban Homes. ‘Alcohol, jugglers and dancing girls are fun until you sober up and see what you have signed.’”

“The Federal Reserve is doing everything in its power to get you to buy a house. On Thursday the Fed’s rate-setting committee said it will start buying $40 billion of mortgage-backed bonds every month from now until—well, it didn’t say when. ‘If the outlook for the labor market does not improve substantially, the committee will continue its purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities, undertake additional asset purchases and employ its other policy tools as appropriate,’ the Federal Open Market Committee said in a statement.”

“At a press conference, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke said that while the U.S. has ‘enjoyed broad price stability’ since the mid-1990s, the employment situation remains a ‘grave concern.’”

“Like every festive season, this year also has banks and builders coming together with lucrative offers for home buyers. Several banks have cut rates on home loans by 25-50 basis points and real estate developers are offering freebies and discounts on under-construction and ready -for possession properties. Bank of Baroda, Allahabad Bank, Central Bank of India, IDBI Bank, Indian Overseas Bank, Oriental Bank of Commerce, Punjab National Bank and Union Bank of India have cut rates by 25 to 50 basis points on a home loan of Rs 25 to 50 lakhs.”

“In many cities, builders have sold it to investors. A recent Knight Frank report said almost 80,000 flats were unsold in Mumbai. There will be registration and stamp duty to be paid from the pocket. And that’s not all. Many builders will charge separate fees for car parking and so on. Builders, on their part, are trying hard as well. There are freebies on offer such as free parking, electrical appliances and furniture. Some are also offering gifts like gold coins and foreign trips.”

“But, these factors should not really push consumers to go ahead and buy a house. Currently, property prices are very high. The cut in interest rates will only boost sentiments. A cut in interest rates can at best improve eligibility of the borrower. Ramesh Nair, managing director (West India) at Jones Lang LaSalle’s says the property price is more important than interest rates. ‘If interest goes up, the borrower will have to pay more and if to goes down, he will save. But it is price that the borrower is getting married to.’”




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Comment by Pimp Watch
2012-09-14 06:23:41

“Leslie Appleton-Young, with the California Association of Realtors, said competition for homes began to heat up earlier this year in light of declining foreclosure resales and increased investor activity. ‘The market is in the process … of healing,’ she told local real estate pros at a housing summit held by the San Diego Association of Realtors.”

“Lawrence Yun, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, highlighted San Diego’s lack of housing construction due to an issue that’s specific to this county. ‘You’re running out of land,’ said Yun.”

FUH-Q….. dreamers.

Comment by 2banana
2012-09-14 07:07:24

More like propaganda…

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-09-14 08:40:36

More like recycled propaganda…

 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2012-09-14 10:31:52

I keep waiting for David Lereah to be rehabilitated. If we’re going to prop up housing, and the banks making housing loans, and the financial entities that securitize the loans and make “products” based on them, we might as well prop up the fatuous and greedy personalities who helped make it all possible.

 
Comment by Brandon
2012-09-14 21:07:53

Its like groundhog day

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2012-09-14 07:04:25

A false economy to go with our false president - seems appropriate…

‘There are so many people like me who aren’t paying their mortgage so they can buy groceries and gas,’ said Harris, who was rejected for loan modification programs. ‘It’s creating this whole false economy.’”

Comment by Steve W
2012-09-14 12:02:18

After reading the NV article–the thing that is so unbelievable is that there are still people living for “free” after 3 years of non-payments.

Unbelievable because I have to assume that banks are in the business to make money, and obviously they have decided that it is better overall to not receive one mortgage payment for three years rather than foreclose on that person.

false economy indeed

Comment by polly
2012-09-14 12:26:03

The bank is the servicer. As long as the loan is outstanding they “accrue” their servicing fee, even if they don’t get the cash. The bond holders who are the actual owners have written off the value of the bonds to take into account the fact that the loans are not being paid. The owners of the bonds don’t know each other and therefore will find it almost impossible to get together to take action on the servicer not really serving their best interests by going forward on the foreclosure and selling the property.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2012-09-14 07:05:38

SO WHERE DID THE MONEY GO??????

Among them is a River Road area house Occupy volunteer Vickie Embree purchased in 2008 — just before the bottom fell out of the national housing market. ‘I never thought this would be me,’ Embree said. ‘The last two homes I bought, I left with a bunch of money to put toward my next house. I bought this house for $190,000,’ she said. ‘I still owe $170,000, and it’s only worth $130,000.’”

Comment by Bad Andy
2012-09-14 08:27:02

Shut up and pay your mortgage!

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-09-14 08:57:14

Hey, Vickie!

So you left with “a bunch of money”? Was your bunch $17-20K? That’s not a bunch.

Where’d the rest of the bunch go?

 
Comment by WA Renter
2012-09-14 11:43:05

How come the reporters never ask “where did the bunch of money go?”

 
 
Comment by Patrick
2012-09-14 07:23:21

Canada’s Finance Minister:

“We’ve seen some bump-up of the dollar, in part because of the announcement yesterday by Ben Bernanke in the United States about another round of quantitative easing there,” he told reporters.

USA devaluing it’s dollar to better compete ?

Why doesn’t he attach conditions on the use of these added funds being counterfeited ?

Comment by polly
2012-09-14 10:47:50

Hmm…maybe it is a good thing I bought my tickets earlier this week.

By the way, Patrick, have you ever used the other Toronto Airport? Billy whatever. On the island. I’m hoping to get off my plane, get my luggage, get through customs, get on the shuttle and get to Union Station in an hour and a half. Does that sound doable?

Comment by Patrick
2012-09-14 16:25:41

Polly

Yes, very doable. Billy Bishop Airport is on an island with ferry service every 30 minutes (I always seem to miss it). The airport is small and is easy to transit. Union station ! Sounds like a train ride is next. The station is only about ten minutes or so once you are off the island.

If you are only transitting thru Toronto, please make sure you see the construction cranes on your way to the station (hard to miss). I am sure the HBB board would like to hear your comments on this “forest”.

Oh, by the way, if you are coming in during rush hour all bets are off as to time it takes to travel anywhere.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2012-09-14 08:11:14

Wow - average of $106,500/year for 9 months of work, gold plated benefits and insane pensions.

Does that make the teachers part of the 1%ers?

Wonder what property taxes are…

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Two sides to meet today in Lake Forest teachers strike
Chicago Tribune ^ | Sept 13, 2012 | Danna and Lisa Black

Two days into a teachers strike at Lake Forest High School, the two sides have agreed to meet for a bargaining session this afternoon, union officials say.

Teachers walked out Wednesday after failing to reach an agreement over salaries and benefits during talks that ended just before midnight Tuesday. The strike affects about 1,700 students and about 150 teachers and staff members.

The board has offered pay increases of 2.6 percent in fiscal year 2013, 3.4 percent in 2014 and 3.4 percent in 2015, according to the district. It has also asked teachers to start paying for a percentage of their insurance coverage.

The average teacher in the district makes $106,500

Comment by JimO
2012-09-14 09:14:07

So I just have to ask myself who’s going to pay those gold plated benefits and pensions? Same problem in NJ. Property taxes will continue to drive people out of the state - except for the 1% and the SNAP/S8/SSDI/EIC crowd. Hey, maybe Ben will pay for it all.

Comment by Steve W
2012-09-14 11:58:18

In Lake Forest, IL, the people who will pay for this are the members of the Chicago Bears, the Bulls, and the CEOs who live up there. It’s a bit tony, as one might say.

For fun, I looked up a listing up there–12 million dollar house, property taxes are 129K/year.

Anyway, 2banana, as you seem on the Illinois kick lately, someday I gotta bring you up here to Chicago and buy you a beer, we’re all not completely out of our minds up here and it’s not that bad a place to eke out a living.

Comment by Dave
2012-09-14 19:52:33

Chicago? On purpose? It does appear to be a good place to get killed, robbed, raped, then killed again.

I’ve seen that Pawn Shop show….people there are just about as skanky as you can get.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-09-14 08:42:53

“‘When you have people in their house for two years without making a payment, we’re sending the wrong message,’ she said.”

I think I can decode the message:

1) Use the smallest possible downpayment necessary to buy a home.

2) Stop making payments and live in the home rent free, indefinitely.

Comment by Muggy
2012-09-14 19:45:34

I’ve thought about doing this. For real. Why not?

 
Comment by UNKNOWN TENANT
2012-09-15 06:03:29

“‘When you have people in their house for two years without making a payment, we’re sending the wrong message,’ she said.”

Two years? Boatloads of victims stopped paying in 2007 and like the quote below, they all have a sob story (AKA reason) which all start the same….

Deadbeat Doe stopped paying his or her mortgage blank years ago after his or her……

accounting business lost its biggest client or Home inspection business went under or dog got cancer or mortgage payment unexpectidly went up or they cut their toes off working in the yard etc.

The truth is most Deadbeats stopped paying the mortgage because they could not extract anymore equity or sell at a profit. So they found a new way to make money, cry victim and live rent free for years.

“Tamara Harris and her neighbors are gambling that lenders won’t foreclose on their Spanish-style homes in the Las Vegas neighborhood of Southern Highlands. Harris stopped paying her mortgage three years ago after her”

 
 
Comment by You Will Sustain Massive Losses
2012-09-15 05:52:37

The questions remain;

-Why buy a house when you can rent the same square footage for half the monthly cost?

-Why buy a house in an environment of fraudulent misrepresentation of fundamentals when there are actually 25 MILLION excess empty houses?

-Why buy a resale house when a new housing is double digit percentages less?

Comment by ed collins
2012-09-17 07:29:56

New home morgage and overhead costs can be significantly less than rental costs here in the Tidewater region of Virginia (in areas with good schools). Likely due to the LARGE military presence and monthly off base housing allowances.
Based on my personal observations used housing stock is dropping in value at approximately the same rate that new housing is increasing.
Personal example: We own a 3100 sq ft vinyl colonial in a desirable area that was built in 1994. The home is on a 16000 sq ft lot and in good shape with no issues. I retired in Jan. 12 and decided to look for a new home on one level. At that time, our home was appraised at $370 and a new 2400 sq ft brick ranch in the same neighborhood was $355. Both prices were supported by comps.
Seemed like a good idea at the time and we started to get serious. We spent several months updating our home - paint, clean carpet, refinish hardwood floors, powerwashing and so on. Brought in 3 UHS for opinions on pricing in Apr 12 and were advised of the following:

1. Our comps for similar housing was $20 less than in Jan and new houses had increased a like amount.

2. All buyers expect/require sellers to pay 3% for their closing costs. UHS state buyers simply cannot come up with cash closing costs. Builders will commonly pay $3000 in closing if they use their lender.

3. 6% commission to UHS. 1% set aside for potential repairs to buyer even if they are not required. Market for used is dropping so be prepared for offers less than comps.

4. Monthly rent in this area for like UH’s range $2200 - 2600 per month.

We took a pass on a new home in June and New has now increased to $390 - approximately the same as in the bubble on a sq footage basis.

There are benefits for new housing in this area - building codes have improved dramatically over the last several years, mechanical and structural systems are new, updated styles, etc. Not enough for us to drop an additional $100 for the upgrade though.

Bottom line - buyers can purchase new 2200 - 2400 sq ft at $390 for the same or less than rent for the same nabe/schools. Not for us but our circumstances are different. I believe that a family with kids would consider other factors - as I would have 30 years ago.

4. UHS state not much new UH coming on market due to a lack of intrest from buyers - the spring season will be another banner year.

5. Helicopter $ drops may further reduce monthly buyer costs.

 
 
Comment by UNKNOWN TENANT
2012-09-15 06:12:58

‘There are so many people like me who aren’t paying their mortgage so they can buy groceries and gas,’ said Harris, who was rejected for loan modification programs. ‘It’s creating this whole false economy.’”

So they can buy groceries and gas and Christmas presents on Black Friday and i-pads and i-phones and all kinds of stuff that people who pay rent and mortgages can`t buy.

If it hadn’t been for Deadbeat Doe
We’d gone under long time ago
Where did you come from, where did you go?
Where did you come from, Deadbeat Doe?

 
Comment by joesmith
2012-09-15 09:32:33

House down the street from me has had an ad hoc yard sale Sat/Sun for the last 2 weeks. They paid $225k for 1350 sq ft in 2006. We paid $150k for 2200 sq ft in 2011. Oh, and our house has a detached 2 car garage, while theres has none. Our house is in great condition, theirs would be lucky to sell for 100k.

Am I a bad person for laughing at this situation?

Comment by joesmith
2012-09-15 09:38:25

What makes this even worse is, we are 30 yrs old and our house is 1x our gross income, whereas the people down the street are in their 50s and the 225k is (educated guess based on what they do) 4-5x income.

 
Comment by joesmith
2012-09-15 10:07:56

“theirs”

Ugh, so embarassing.

 
 
Comment by Mandy Lifeboats
2012-09-15 11:24:29

This almost made my head explode.

Steve Hawks helps Las Vegas Home Owner that
Lived Free 5 Years
and Bank Removes Mortgage Debt & Fees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iuBON_GbHI

 
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