The Old Order Is Sucking The Life From The New
It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “It used to be that Chinese buyers who purchased property in New York did so because the city’s durable real estate market was both a reliable and potentially lucrative investment. Now, however, affluent Chinese buyers are more likely to seek out Big Apple properties as a way to hang on to their wealth, according to real estate brokers. Kevin Brown of Sotheby’s International Realty and partner Nikki Field decided to focus on China when the US real estate market softened in the wake of the financial crisis in 2008. They visit the Chinese mainland a few times each year to host events and meet potential buyers.”
“One of their first Chinese clients, a mainland woman who now lives in Hong Kong, bought a $6.5 million apartment at One57, a midtown Manhattan tower that, at 90 stories, will be the city’s tallest residential building upon completion. ‘She wasn’t concerned about the rate of return,’ Brown said. ‘She told us she wants her daughter to attend Columbia University and she would like an apartment in midtown Manhattan. When we talked about her daughter afterward, I realized she is only 2 years old.’”
“After years on life support, signs of life are now beginning to show in the Oregon housing market, according to a new University of Oregon report on the state of the economy. ‘I can only judge by my own business but we’re as busy as we’ve ever ever been.’ said Eugene contractor David Smith. Reporter Tom Adams asked David Smith, ‘What’s the difference? What explains this trend?’ Smith replied, ‘I think people are just sensing a recovery. I think they’re sensing that … you know, I better do it now while interest rates are still low.’”
“Ashland has a surplus of houses that are unaffordable to most residents and not enough moderately priced houses and rental apartments to meet people’s needs, according to a city of Ashland draft Housing Needs Analysis. The study found that only 22 percent of houses for sale in Ashland cost less than $279,300. A household would have to earn $75,000 to buy a house priced at $285,000 — the average price for houses that sold in Ashland in 2011, the analysis said. But a majority of Ashland households — 76.2 percent — earn less than $75,000 per year.”
“The median household income in Ashland is $40,140, lower than the rest of Jackson County, Oregon and the nation, according to the analysis. The analysis showed that 63 percent of Ashland renters pay more than 30 percent of their income for housing. That’s up from 2000, when 53 percent of Ashland renters were burdened by housing costs. Households are considered financially burdened by housing costs when those costs exceed 30 percent of their income, according to U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.”
“With today’s release of RealtyTrac’s September foreclosure activity report you will see headlines claiming that we just saw a 5 year low - but that’s at the national level. Meanwhile, all you have to do is look at the long term chart below for Chicago foreclosure activity and you can see that it’s anything but a 5 year low. For 9 months straight now the foreclosure activity has been higher than the previous year.”
“Illinois also has the distinction of having the fourth longest average time to complete a foreclosure at 673 days. So Illinois homeowners living under the specter of foreclosure can live in their homes for free for a long time. Crain’s was able to construct this nifty graph from additional data obtained from RealtyTrac. You can click on it to go to the original graph. Note how the processing time just keeps getting worse.”
“As Daren Blomquist, VP at RealtyTrac, points out: ‘It was a little surprising that the national time to foreclose kept going up even though we’re seeing nationwide foreclosures decrease. It does make me wonder if there’s still some kind of hidden distress out there that the banks have not yet dealt with in some of these states.’”
“Despite a slowdown in foreclosures and signs of an uptick in prices, the overall housing market has fundamental problems that could take decades to undo. Corporate and government help has been unable to drain the economic and bureaucratic swamp that has left 59 percent of mortgages here underwater. Those were two of the underlying messages from a foreclosure workshop Monday in Las Vegas City Hall.”
“The most troubling portion of the event was a presentation by Jeremy Aguero of the economics research firm Applied Analysis. According to data that Aguero compiled, there are ominous signs on the horizon for the Southern Nevada housing market. Full recovery from the crash that sapped $20 billion in equity from the region, Aguero said, ‘is not going to be measured in years, it is going to be measured in decades.’”
“Among the numbers indicating that recovery will be a rocky path is the percentage of adjustable rate mortgages, ARMs, in the state. According to Aguero’s presentation, 18.2 percent of Nevada mortgages are ARMs compared with 12.1 percent nationwide. That is a problem because it makes Nevada, and Las Vegas in particular, especially vulnerable to the machinations of national and international monetary policy. ‘If the interest rates start ticking up, this would create a whole new problem,’ Aguero said.”
“Marshall Vest of the Eller College of Management at the University of Arizona, said the current demand for homes is not coming from people moving here. What is driving the market, he said, is coming from investors. ‘Some real estate investment trusts have been in here buying up properties with the idea of renting those properties out,’ Vest said during a meeting at the Capitol of the state’s Finance Advisory Committee. But that, he said, cannot continue forever.”
“‘As soon as they’ve parked all of the money they have raised, there’s a source of housing that’s going to go away,’ he explained. And there is not yet the internal demand to ‘take up the slack.’”
“Jim Rounds of Elliott Pollack and Associates underlined the role of investors. In normal times, he said, about 10 percent of all home purchases are for cash. The most recent figures for the Phoenix area, which he tracks, are in the 40 percent range. Rounds, also a member of the Finance Advisory Committee, also foresees a time when investors are not snapping up Arizona properties. But unlike Vest, he does not see it as a matter of these investment trusts running out of money to buy homes.”
“‘It’s them finding additional investment opportunities that are yielding a higher return than hanging onto these homes,’ he said. ‘And as you see this steady increase in prices, you’re going to start to see opportunities for them to liquidate,’ Rounds continued. And that will lead to an increase in the supply of available homes.”
“He said that if prices keep increasing at current rates, ‘you will see a mini bubble.’ The question, of course, is how much higher things can go — and how much can they fall. He said prices already are up 20 to 30 percent from where they bottomed off a year or so ago. ‘If you go up another 20 percent, we’re looking at a 50 percent increase over a short period of time,’ he said, a figure which is even more remarkable when population growth is in the 1 percent a year range.”
“‘That bubble hits, you see us go down maybe half way,’ Rounds said. But he said that while the size of a drop might seem large, it’s not inconsistent with what has been a historical trend in Arizona. ‘People get excited,’ he said. ‘You have a little bubble. You fall back down.’”
“Vest agreed that the 20 to 30 percent price increases of the past year are temporary. ‘The best that you can expect would be low to mid single digit increases at some point in the future,’ he said. And what of a possible price drop? ‘I would hope not,’ Vest responded, if for no other reason than the rising housing prices have had a beneficial effect on the psychology of consumers and their belief that things are turning around. ‘It’s very healthy for the market,’ he said. ‘And I would hope that housing prices don’t turn south, again, and destroy all that confidence.’”
“Construction is going strong in Metro Vancouver, even though home resale prices are dropping slightly and sales activity is significantly below historical levels. Scott Brown, senior VP of residential project marketing at Colliers International said investors are becoming more selective — choosing properties close to SkyTrain stations or in just the right location — whereas in 2007, investors were not selective because all properties were expected to increase in value.”
“‘The west side was particularly hot last year, and was driven by media stories about foreign buying,’ Brown said. ‘The values that were set by that foreign buying would be relatively high, compared to two years ago, but the question is will that hold or will it soften? No one knows and it still depends to a degree on whether the foreign buying continues.’”
“He said foreign buyers are willing to pay more for premium properties, partly because of their wealth and partly because of their perception of what a property is worth. ‘If you’re living in a market where a starter home is a million and a half and you can never own single-family, but you can walk in here and buy a home near downtown with a yard for $3 million, that sounds cheap to them, whereas to a local person that is a lot of money still,’ Brown said.”
“Chinese investors are making their presence felt in all aspects of New Zealand real estate. Real estate agent Graham Wall had two deals to sell Mission Bay houses to Chinese buyers and he went to Shanghai in the winter to drum up further interest. Chinese buyers wanted luxury properties, could afford them and appreciated Auckland’s best suburbs with big waterfront views and proximity to the city, he said.”
“‘Why we are getting record prices for Auckland, Hawkes Bay and Queenstown houses is that people outside New Zealand can see its worth,’ he said.”
“Yesterday, Credit Suisse announced that in terms of median wealth, Australians are the richest in the world. Yet, survey after survey shows that households remain dour about our prospects at best, and downright economically depressed at worst. And here’s is why. A big gap has opened up between the economic reality that Australians know and the one that is constantly described for them by our economic elite.”
“There’s a well kept secret in the psychology profession about depression. In many orthodox notions of melancholia, the remedy is considered to be to train the sufferer to ‘think positive.’ But the secret is this: in many cases thinking positive only treats the symptoms of depression. Real depression is a manifestation of unexpressed emotion, usually anger, arising from past trauma. So being told over and again to cheer up by a therapist, by a support network, by yourself, only buries that unexpressed emotion further, making it grow.”
“Right now, that is where we are economically. Despite their apparent wealth, Australians know that they’ve been through an economic trauma. Beneath the glossy veneer, folks know in their bones that there is no going back to the boom years when money flowed from every local house and superannuation account on a conveyor belt.”
“Yet despite this deep knowledge, which craves acknowledgment, and is the ashes of the phoenix from which a rebirth of national energy could spring, the pop-psychologists of our national elite spend all of their energy doing their utmost to bury it. Generally under the banner of a kind of thin Keynesian notion of keeping up our ‘animal spirits,’ the government, the Reserve Bank, our most respected media commentators, in unison give us a chorus of ‘it’s all good’”
“Among our leadership class, no reference is ever made to the fact that the old order of economic wealth creation has passed, nor that our economic performance per head is the worst it’s been for decades. Instead, we’re subjected to a ceaseless chorus of ‘buck-up.’ that China will save us, and that we’re better off than the Joneses.”
“We do not need cliches about consumer caution or endless Chinese booms. We need to build savings. We need to promote that saving into productive investment. We need more entrepreneurial flair to build the businesses to invest in. We need to celebrate individual empowerment through investment in education. In short, we need a liberal vision for the country beyond hoping that China will save us. Until we get that, the old order will not only whither, it will suck the life from the new.”
‘I think people are just sensing a recovery. I think they’re sensing that … you know, I better do it now while interest rates are still low.’
Fed-sponsored mass delusion about the effect of low interest rates on housing prices is luring yet another lemming stampede over the cliff of purchasing real estate when the price is unsustainably high.
I guess so long as the Fed doesn’t run out of greater fools, these fooling games can go on forever?
No dollar shall be allowed to escape.
The Tax change for Jan 1,2013 ! You won’t be able to escape the recapture rules for foreclosure or short sales. Good, tax the dead beats Obama.
“Ashland has a surplus of houses that are unaffordable to most residents and not enough moderately priced houses and rental apartments to meet people’s needs, according to a city of Ashland draft Housing Needs Analysis. The study found that only 22 percent of houses for sale in Ashland cost less than $279,300. A household would have to earn $75,000 to buy a house priced at $285,000 — the average price for houses that sold in Ashland in 2011, the analysis said. But a majority of Ashland households — 76.2 percent — earn less than $75,000 per year.”
Has any economist with an academic reputation yet made the connection between Fed-suppressed ultra-low interest rates and unaffordable housing prices, or is it mainly members of the economics blogging community that have figured this out?
P.S. Retardicans who believe pensions problems are solely due to out-of-control public sector unions might want to study up a bit on the effect of interest rates on the cost of existing pension promises.
In short, super-low interest rates make pension liabilities soar astronomically.
I suppose the upside for a member of the 1% club is that soaring liabilities coupled with a good propaganda smoke screen might make it easier to break pension promises.
Yep. Cram down pension obligations during ZIRP, then jack rates back up and save a ton of money.
That being said, I despise the way public union pensions are structured. Pensions in general are ‘bad’ in that they induce all sorts of uncertainty into the cost of running them, and public pensions put taxpayers on the hook for shortfalls.
But the steady money from the pensioner to the property tax man keeps the local gov’t employees happy
It looks like the housing crisis is still in full swing; housing and rents remain largely unaffordable. How does Obama sleep at night, knowing he is working hard to make people’s lives even more difficult with oppressive rents and mortgages?
Obama doesn’t care about anybody but himself. Citizens are foils in a play for votes. He is living a grand life, flying around the country, attending expensive dinners, while giving talks to his friends and supporters. What’s not to like?
He sleeps quite well, I am sure. A little worried about this election thing, but his supporters say it’s in the bag.
The only downside has been an occasional appearance at less friendly venues, like a debate platform. 3 “debates” over 4 years isn’t too much of an inconvenience in my opinion.
ObamaRomney doesn’t care about anybody but himself. Citizens are foils in a play for votes. He is living a grand life, flying around the country, attending expensive dinners, while giving talks to his friends and supporters. What’s not to like?He sleeps quite well, I am sure
Works just as well, no?
I am sure your changes will please the communists.
Odds against Romney winning the popular vote are now closing in on 3:2, according to the 2012 US Presidential Election Winner Takes All Market closing prices today.
It works great for the 1%, who generally all own at least one house…
“who generally all own at least one house…”
P$haw!
At the risk of sounding like I’m making an “it’s different there” post, Ashland is one of those places where most people settling there don’t care about price. The people retiring there (read: Californians with more money than…) are willing to throw $500k-$1.5M down to be part of something, to buy an image.
Something that’s still close to from whence they came, but with all the cachet of being able to say you live in wild west Oregon, not hectic, has-been California. I mean, why not settle in Redding?
It won’t be until the waves of retiring boomers fades that Ashland again joins reality.
Other than the Shakespeare Festival and Southern Oregon University, Ashland doesn’t have much of an economy. I know. I went there for trade school (United Bicycle Institute).
“Illinois also has the distinction of having the fourth longest average time to complete a foreclosure at 673 days. So Illinois homeowners living under the specter of foreclosure can live in their homes for free for a long time. Crain’s was able to construct this nifty graph from additional data obtained from RealtyTrac. You can click on it to go to the original graph. Note how the processing time just keeps getting worse.”
Illinois seems unduly burdened these days with financial issues. For example:
National Briefing | Midwest
Illinois: Chicago Mayor Gives Warning on Pensions
By STEVEN YACCINO
Published: October 11, 2012
Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago said Tuesday that the city could be forced to cut services or raise property taxes by 150 percent without comprehensive pension reform in the state. In his annual budget speech to the City Council, the mayor presented a spending plan that would close Chicago’s nearly $300 million deficit without adding new taxes or fees. Saying that pension obligations for city workers were unsustainable, he warned that future budgets might not be as palatable. Illinois holds more than $83 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.
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Auditor General report says Illinois has worst budget deficit in the nation
June 21, 2012
Quinn Ford
Illinois Auditor General William Holland released a report Thursday which announced the state’s overall budget deficit has more than doubled in the past five years.
The audit report analyzed the Illinois State Comptroller’s comprehensive annual financial report which lists all state government assets and liabilities for fiscal year 2011.
The report said Illinois is now $43.8 billion in the red, making it the worst state budget deficit in the nation.
Brad Hahn, a spokesperson for Illinois State Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka, said legislators took positive steps during the spring session to address the deficit, but he said the state faces a “colossal mess” and has a long way to go.
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I find it interesting that typically the biggest Democrat States and Cities practice “voodoo” economics. They all think there is an endless supply of money to be fleeced for some “greater good”, while never coming to terms with fiscal responsibility and understanding that a “Budget” is how you balance income with outflow.
That’s why you have a budget.
Oh, that’s right, the Dem’s don’t need to produce a budget, just a “continuing resolution” to extend the current spending levels.
“He said that if prices keep increasing at current rates, ‘you will see a mini bubble.’ The question, of course, is how much higher things can go — and how much can they fall. He said prices already are up 20 to 30 percent from where they bottomed off a year or so ago. ‘If you go up another 20 percent, we’re looking at a 50 percent increase over a short period of time,’ he said, a figure which is even more remarkable when population growth is in the 1 percent a year range.”
I call it a slow-motion dead cat bounce…
‘a figure which is even more remarkable when population growth is in the 1 percent a year range’
A speculative frenzy, with no fundamental demand behind it, and these guys can’t see a bubble?
‘the rising housing prices have had a beneficial effect on the psychology of consumers and their belief that things are turning around. ‘It’s very healthy for the market,’ he said. ‘And I would hope that housing prices don’t turn south, again, and destroy all that confidence’
We can’t have that! Let’s have everyone pay too much for the most basic of necessities, all on the alter of ‘confidence.’
This guy is right:
‘Beneath the glossy veneer, folks know in their bones that there is no going back to the boom years when money flowed from every local house and superannuation account on a conveyor belt.”
“Yet despite this deep knowledge…the pop-psychologists of our national elite spend all of their energy doing their utmost to bury it. Generally under the banner of a kind of thin Keynesian notion of keeping up our ‘animal spirits,’ the government, the Reserve Bank, our most respected media commentators, in unison give us a chorus of ‘it’s all good’”
“Among our leadership class, no reference is ever made to the fact that the old order of economic wealth creation has passed, nor that our economic performance per head is the worst it’s been for decades.’
What about these modern highs in poverty, in food stamp roles? What about these unemployed, the students in debt with no career? All the ‘elites’ can say is low interest rates and higher house prices are gonna save us?
Old order indeed. We should talk over the heads of these elites, because they will never see the light until it’s blinking through the hot tar and feathers.
It’s going to be a lot worse than tar and feathers. But in the short term I’m comprehensively disappointed in Western political and economic leadership. The people who matter are completely out of ideas. If all we can do is create a wealth effect based on artificially-inflated asset prices, then everything we see is fake.
If all we can do is create a wealth effect based on artificially-inflated asset prices, then everything we see is fake………………..
The financial elite, wholly supported by the Obama administration don’t care about REAL economics. They only care about the “rake” they take on financial transactions.
That is the Bankster game at its core.
For more than 30 years, the FED has fed the Banksters a gourmet of cheap money to gamble and make “transactions”.
BANKS are supposed to provide capital for INVESTMENTS, i.e. real businesses that provide goods and services.
We saw in the DOT com boom, that Wall street “investment houses” didn’t care if they business was viable, only if it could be traded and a profit turned before the fraud was exposed.
Ditto for housing.
What has been the response of the “leadership”?
Close down the Banksters? No. They gave them MORE power and MORE money and say they are TOO BIG to be allowed to fail.
A real President would promote the BREAKUP of the Big 10, and use ANTI_Trust Legislation to start. I would have gone after all these crooks and they would be on trial.
Dodd-Frank? What a joke.
We need REAL leadership to break up the Banking Cartels, Kill the FED, BReak up the IMF, Destroy the World Bank and get control over the “financialization” of the so-called Free World.
The money-printers are our enemies, not our saviours. They only know how to SKIM OFF a percentage of the trade. That’s ALL they do.
I agree with you Diogenes . It’s one big racket and Dodd-Frank was a joke . The decision to support the corrupted
systems and continue to prop it up and bail it out was not the right decision in my mind either .
But as I see it ,all decisions revolve around keeping the corrupted systems going rather than a new vision as
Ben Jones suggests above . You would of thought that seeing the failure would of taught the lesson that it doesn’t work to create fake asset bubbles and real production is
the only way .
It’s would HAVE - not would OF. Speak English.
Didn’t you never hear the could of, would of, should of? English is a living language!
‘We need REAL leadership to break up the Banking Cartels, Kill the FED, BReak up the IMF, Destroy the World Bank and get control over the “financialization” of the so-called Free World.’
The day Romney and Ryan step up to offer this is the day they earn my vote.
OMG — not the return of the GRAMMAR NAZIS to the HBB!?
Didn’t you never hear the could of, would of, should of? English is a living language!
It’s could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. As in contractions of “have”. The living language is being killed.
It’s could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. As in contractions of “have”. The living language is being killed.
Your right.
“We can’t have that! Let’s have everyone pay too much for the most basic of necessities, all on the alter of ‘confidence.’”
After that, Democrat politicians can fill the headlines with ‘Save Our Homes’ bailout announcements for the next wave of foreclosure victims who can’t keep up with their unaffordable mortages.
It’s the housing bubble spin cycle.
“It’s the housing bubble spin cycle.”
The real up$cale wa$hing implement$ come with an option for adding a 2nd Rin$e as well!
“Generally under the banner of a kind of thin Keynesian notion of keeping up our ‘animal spirits,’ the government, the Reserve Bank, our most respected media commentators, in unison give us a chorus of ‘it’s all good’”
That’s the Australian Reserve Bank, not to be confused with America’s Federal Reserve Bank.
“Old order indeed. We should talk over the heads of these elites, because they will never see the light until it’s blinking through the hot tar and feathers.”
You can bet your bottom dollar that the very moment when the present denial bubble pops, the MSM writers will serve up yet another dose of ‘Nobody could have seen it coming!’
What about these modern highs in poverty, in food stamp roles? What about these unemployed, the students in debt with no career? All the ‘elites’ can say is low interest rates and higher house prices are gonna save us?
I agree. Monetarism is how the wealthy wish things worked. “We’ll lower interest rates, and the prols will start spending again, and we’ll make a lot of money, and everything will be all right.”
“Not if they have to borrow it,” Keynes, or anyone rational and not blinded by self-interest, would point out. “Not when they’re already tapped out.”
Well put. Most people are not tapped out until they reach their credit limit. The predators only follow the behavior of the herd. They need not be disciples of Keynes or Monetaryism.
“He said foreign buyers are willing to pay more for premium properties, partly because of their wealth and partly because of their perception of what a property is worth. ‘If you’re living in a market where a starter home is a million and a half and you can never own single-family, but you can walk in here and buy a home near downtown with a yard for $3 million, that sounds cheap to them, whereas to a local person that is a lot of money still,’ Brown said.”
The army of rich foreign investors never seems to stop encroaching on U.S. residential market affordability…
I guess that quote was directed at Vancouver housing, which is even more infested with Chinese equity locusts than any of the more inviting coastal cities to the south of the U.S. border?
I wonder if the mainland Chinese see Canada as a politically safer haven than the US?
Could you do better than a “home near downtown with a yard” for $3 million in San Diego?
Absolutely! You could get a home with an ocean view for well under $3M. My colleague at work just barely cleared $1.3M for one such sale. I’m surprised the all-cash foreign investors aren’t beating San Diego Realtor™’s doors down to get in on the $1M+ action…
For instance, there is a huge supply of single-family homes currently for sale in La Jolla for under $3M, right at the onset of the ice-cold holiday sales season.
Come on, all-cash Chinese investors — these homes are yours for cheap, compared to Vancouver, and we have lots more sun, to boot!
It looks like there are 3,410 single-family homes on the MLS in San Diego priced for below $3M, right at the start of the icy cold holiday sales season. Most of these are located in highly-desirable coastal areas.
Good luck at finding a buyer who is looking for the chance to catch a falling knife in defense-contracting haven San Diego, just before the U.S. government deliberately jumps off the fiscal cliff!
Somebody could be in China with a printing press handing out money, with those funds then being used to by American residential real estate, and our complete captive idiot political leadership would cheer that development, as if no adverse consequences conceivably could result.
Well, that’s only fair. IF the FED can print up money and give it to Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, CitiBank, Bank of Amerika, et. al, and allow those in the Banking CArtel to spend it as they see fit, skimming a share and buying up assets around the world, then why shouldn’t the Chinese be able to do the same thing.
Oh. Wait! Do you think we should be able to “audit” the Bank of China, like we do the Federal Reserve? So they don’t just print up a bunch of fraudulent Bills that have no representative value?
Hahahahaha.
I kind of like that point. Right now global elites with access to free money are on a buying spree. Those of us without such access remain hunkered down. I wish our leaders would see the ramifications of this, but they can’t or won’t. We haven’t seen this kind of failure of democratic government since the 1920s and 30s.
“It’s a big club, and you aint in it. You, and I are not in The Big Club.”
George Carlin.
“Right now global elites with access to free money are on a buying spree.”
Spot on! Them that gots access to unlimited borrowing at ZIRP can snap up as much as they wish of whatever they wants.
Them that don’ts got access are asset-purchase rationed.
Why would China have to print, when we send so many dollars their way which they can repatriate as all-cash investments in U.S. real estate? The Fed is winning the currency printing battle but losing the real estate investing war to China!
“As Daren Blomquist, VP at RealtyTrac, points out: ‘It was a little surprising that the national time to foreclose kept going up even though we’re seeing nationwide foreclosures decrease. It does make me wonder if there’s still some kind of hidden distress out there that the banks have not yet dealt with in some of these states.’”
Snipers, heads up! We may have a runner…
The government and Fed frown on saving. At least for the peons. Building net worth is only encouraged for the very wealthy and well-connected. The peons are supposed to give their money to Wall Street for the purchase of volatile virtual products. And the only people who regularly make money on that is The House - Wall Street.
Interesting how the retail investors have been taking their money off the Wall Street casino tables. And how the business press is full of articles noting this trend. Complete with head-scratching quotes about how to lure the retail folks back to the WS casino.
And this is how to win the Big Game the casino guys set up, which is to not play.
They need us (and our money) more than we need them (and their promises of money).
They spent some very big bucks to set up the Big Game and then they spent - are spending - some more very big bucks trying to entice people to become players in the Big Game - a game which is entirely theirs and which has been set up by and is being played out by them and their own rules.
Their game, their rules. Play their game and you will be played for a fool.
Pogo was right, you know.
And so was Barnum.
Once enough retail investors have withdrawn their monies from Wall Street, look for the Fed to lower the boom of asset (stock) price inflation on them.
I thought that’s what we’d already been doing the last couple of years? Yet people continue to take money out anyway…
Consumer sentiment is at a five-year high, and Mr Market serves up a selloff in response?
Who moved my animal spirits?
Consumer sentiment jumps to five-year high in October
Consumer sentiment has jumped higher for a second month, pushing past analysts’ expectations to stand at the highest level since September 2007, according to latest University of Michigan survey.
It was a damn good week to be largely out of the U.S. stock market!
Condolences to the suckers who got long on post-QE3 announcement optimism…suckers!
Stocks off 2%-3% in week
Major indexes close their worst five-day period in four months, as worries about Europe overcame an unexpected rise in U.S. consumer confidence.
Oct. 12, 2012, 4:47 p.m. EDT
U.S. stocks end worst week in four months
By Kate Gibson, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. stocks on Friday closed their worst week in four months nearly unchanged, with the market stalling as worries about Europe overcame an unexpected rise in U.S. consumer confidence.
“We’re all waiting on Spain now,” said Bill Stone, chief investment strategist at PNC Asset Management Group, of persistent speculation over if and when the debt-strapped nation would ask for a financial bailout — a prerequisite for the European Central Bank to purchase its debt and help lower its borrowing costs.
Stocks had gained after a gauge of consumer confidence unexpectedly jumped in October and after J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM -1.14%) earnings cast a positive light on the housing market.
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Possible next bailout: Mortgage relief for veterans with underwater mortgages…
V.A. Loans Surge in Fiscal Year
The New York Times
By LISA PREVOST
Published: October 11, 2012
MORTGAGES guaranteed by the Department of Veterans Affairs surged by 50 percent in the fiscal year ended Sept. 30, as tighter credit standards on conventional financing made these programs all the more attractive to current and former military members.
The department guaranteed almost 540,000 loans in fiscal year 2012, the most since 1994, according to Mike Frueh, the director of loan guarantee service. Compared with five years ago, volume is up some 300 percent.
Low interest rates were part of the draw — about 338,000 of the V.A. loans were for the purpose of refinancing.
Borrowers who already have a V.A.-backed mortgage can get an interest-rate reduction relatively easily. The department’s streamlined refinance program doesn’t require these borrowers to “re-prove” that they qualify, said Nathan Long, the chief executive of Veterans United Home Loans, an online broker of V.A. loans.
“It’s a great benefit not to have to go through all the hoops that you would otherwise have to,” Mr. Long said.
V.A. loans for purchases were up almost 10 percent over the previous fiscal year. For military members who qualify, these home loans offer a financing option that has largely disappeared since the subprime meltdown: no down payment.
“Regardless of where home prices are,” Mr. Long said, “100 percent financing can be a great option for people. We’ve seen 9 in 10 of our borrowers use the full 100 percent.”
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