November 30, 2012

A Domino Effect Where Others Choose To Do The Same

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Central Texas’ housing market posted another strong month in October. Greg Cooper, CEO of Austin-based Goldwasser Real Estate, said he recently used personal correspondence to help his clients win the bid for a house in Northwest Austin. Listed for $445,000, the house had received three other offers in just one day on the market. Cooper’s clients bid $15,000 over the asking price. And then there was the letter Cooper wrote for them to the seller. It said they had fallen in love with the ‘magnificently maintained’ home, and could envision their two daughters, ages 2 and 9 months, growing up there and playing in the backyard.”

“Cooper said the seller told him it struck a chord with her. ‘That’s the kind of thing you’re having to do to win in this marketplace — go above (asking) price and tug at heartstrings,’ he said. ‘The last time I had to use that letter was in 2007, at the peak, and we had more listings then. And we thought the market was hot back then.’”

“An improving economy, record-low interest rates and a shortage of homes for sale has prodded central Ohio home shoppers into action, in some cases leading to bidding wars and multiple offers. Milt Lustnauer, a veteran RE/MAX Premier Choice agent, yesterday advised an Upper Arlington home shopper to offer more than the asking price on a house that was listed for about $250,000. ‘The house came on the market yesterday and already has two offers,’ Lustnauer said. ‘My suggestion was to come in over list price.’”

“Home prices in the New York metropolitan area, including North Jersey, dropped 2.3 percent in September compared with a year earlier, according to Standard & Poor’s Case-Shiller home price index. Home prices in the region have dropped 23 percent since their peak in mid-2006. In Bergen County, the median price of a single-family home was $427,000 in September, down 5.1 percent from September 2011. In Passaic County, the average price was $274,401, down 18.5 percent from a year earlier, while the number of sales rose 15 percent.”

“‘Why are home prices [nationally] going up? The key reasons are low interest rates and declining inventories of new and lived-in homes. Others include investors buying distressed sales in bulk, job growth, and, perhaps, self-fulfilling expectations.’ said Patrick Newport, economist, IHS Global Insight.”

“The recent acquisition by Beijing’s Xinyuan Real Estate Co of a planned condominium site in New York City could be a watershed for Chinese-backed property development in the United States. ‘The location is very popular with US domestic purchasers, and New York is a top destination for purchasers from China,’ CEO Yong Zhang said in announcing the deal.”

“Zhang said the project in the trendy Williamsburg neighborhood on Brooklyn’s waterfront, ‘will offer a quality residential condominium development to more than 200 New York families, as well as allow us to capture a large demand from China for quality residential product in the United States’. ‘We target all kinds of buyers, but we expect 40 percent of sales to go to Chinese buyers and 60 percent to New York residents’ including those who might have been priced out of the costlier Manhattan market, said Omer Ozden, who advised the Chinese company on the deal.”

“Investors from China, Hong Kong and Singapore are snapping up real estate in many of Sydney’s most desirable locations - from the central business district to waterfront properties and areas surrounding schools and universities. Similarly, Asian investors are swooping on top-end residential property in Queensland and Victoria. Foreign developers have grabbed 30 per cent of the Australian apartment market to date. In Sydney, researchers say about 90 per cent of the 700 units in the giant Macquarie Central development near Macquarie University have been acquired by Asian buyers.”

“Mark Bouris, from Yellow Brick Road Wealth Management, said Asian buyers ‘aren’t going to buy all the stock.’ ‘Really, we’ve got to embrace whoever wants to buy real estate and that will encourage more vendors,’ he said.”

“Dozens of families spent last week sleeping in their cars or in tents outside Landcom offices at Elizabeth Hills and Edmondson Park in Sydney’s south west before the blocks went on sale yesterday morning. Lots are 367 to 558sq m in size and priced between $245,000 and $315,000. Landcom spokesman Robert Sullivan said close to half of the blocks were sold within three hours of going on sale.”

“‘People chose to camp out at Edmondson Park because they were prepared to sit there for a week to make sure they got the lot they wanted,’ Mr Sullivan said. ‘When one person decides to camp out, it creates a domino effect where others choose to do the same.’”

“Richard Smith and his fiancee Merryn Courtney, both 24, had slept in their car since last Monday to ensure they were first in line for the best 550sq m block, selling for $315,000. When the doors to the sales office opened at 10am, all they had to do was sign on the dotted line. ‘It was the pick of the lot so we had no choice but to camp out to get it.’ Mr Smith told The Sunday Telegraph.”

“For four decades, the Chinese economy was envy of the world. Underwriting the impressive facade, however, is an incredibly risky strategy. Governments borrow money using land as collateral and repay the interest on their loans using funds they earn from selling or leasing the same land. All this means that the Chinese economy depends on a buoyant real estate market to keep grinding. If housing and land prices fall dramatically, a fiscal or banking crisis would likely soon follow. Meanwhile, local officials’ hunger for land has displaced millions of farmers, leading to 120,000 land-related protests each year.”

“According to a 2011 survey by Landesa, a Seattle-based nonprofit organization, local governments earn on average $740,000 per acre of land. That is 40 times the average amount they pay to displaced farmers. On the surface, banks’ balance sheets have remained healthy despite these debts, since banks tend to roll over or ‘ever green’ loans by issuing new loans to help borrowers ‘repay’ old ones. In addition, local governments have been able to make their interest payments using their land as collateral.”

“Even before it pops, China’s real estate bubble is causing social harm. Close to 300,000 peasants are removed from their villages every year to make room for the construction of airports, highways, and buildings. Since 1980, more than 60 million peasants have been moved. The displaced are not usually consulted before relocation. Governments frequently force them to leave by suspending the supply of utilities, such as electricity, to their homes. Increasingly, local governments are even hiring or colluding with gangsters to intimidate villagers who refuse to move. Tellingly, in some villages, these mobsters are known as the ’second government.’”

“Compensation to farmers who do move is often inadequate, because negotiations over the value of their land take place without them. The opacity allows authorities to line their own pockets with funds meant for farmers. It is no surprise, then, that in a recent Landesa survey of nearly 1,800 rural households across 17 provinces, about 20 percent of the displaced (which made up 43 percent of the survey’s sample) had not received any compensation.”

“Stockton, California, has the highest U.S. foreclosure rate. It also has a housing shortage. Government loan-modification programs have gained traction, and the Federal Reserve has kept bank interest rates near zero. Investors are purchasing thousands of foreclosed homes in bulk before they even hit the market, further limiting new supply.”

“Slowing the foreclosure process has allowed banks to avoid booking losses on non-performing loans, said Joshua Rosner, an analyst with Graham Fisher & Co. in New York.’The goal all along — from the banks, the servicers and the government — was sort of to slow walk the whole thing, bleed it through over time,’ Rosner said in a telephone interview.”

“A Miami-based company says it’s seeking investors interested in buying into Florida’s bloated foreclosure market. Title Capital Management is overseeing a $150 million fund in which investors buy, renovate and rent homes before reselling them in five to seven years. A separate $50 million fund allows investors to buy, fix up and ‘flip’ the properties.”

‘Since 2006, banks have repossessed 450,000 homes across Florida — and 200,000 of those have yet to be marketed for sale because lenders are hoping prices keep rising, said Jack McCabe, a housing analyst in Deerfield Beach. There are 350,000 Florida homes currently in the foreclosure process — and 550,000 more that have yet to enter the courts, McCabe said. All told, 1.1 million of the state’s 11.1 million homes are in or near foreclosure, he said.”

“But the strategy isn’t foolproof, said Mike Larson, an analyst for Weiss Research in Jupiter. ‘It does raise the antenna a little bit,’ Larson said. ‘If everybody’s doing it, what’s the risk? The risk is that they could overpay for homes again.’”

“For the first time in almost three years, Nevada is experiencing a spike in the number of foreclosure, causing concern too many houses will flood the market. The concern lies with the speculation that banks have figured out a way around Assembly Bill 284, making it more difficult for banks to foreclose. The bill took effect Oct. 2011 and effectively slowed the state’s foreclosure rate.”

“‘It would not be a good thing, just for basic supply and demand, if we had a tsunami of new foreclosures,’ said Las Vegas attorney Tisha Black Chernine, who helped write the assembly bill. ‘I think that Nevada is going to have to prepare for more foreclosures,’ she said. ‘But that is not necessarily a bad thing. We have to get through this inventory, we have to get people back on their feet.’”

“Developers of Toronto’s Trump International Hotel & Tower have launched lawsuits against seven investors in an effort to force them to close on deals for condo-hotel suites some claim haven’t turned out to be the Hollywood gold buyers were expecting. The legal move by Talon International Inc. comes at the same time that a London, Ont. doctor is seeking $750,000 in damages for ‘misrepresentation,’ unless he can get back deposits on the hotel suite he bought in the ill-fated project back in 2009.”

“Dozens of purchasers of suites in the 65-storey luxury hotel are now trying to get deposits back and renege on final payments averaging over $500,000. Most were caught up in the get-rich-quick mentality of Toronto’s booming condo market and intended to flip the units or use them to generate retirement income. Other buyers, some too frightened of the legal ramifications to walk away from deals penned up to seven years ago, say they are finding themselves in a crippling Catch-22 — unable to sell the units or secure mortgages on balances due.”

“‘One mortgage company asked me, ‘How could I give you a mortgage on a property that is losing money every single day?’ said one devastated buyer, a blue-collar worker who borrowed the $175,000 down payment from his immigrant parents and owes $750,000.”

“Trump Organization lawyer Alan Garten said the story is far simpler than an argument about securities law. Whether the hotel is doing better or worse in terms of occupancy or room rates than was promised, he cannot say. ‘To me it is totally irrelevant, because it doesn’t give you an excuse to get out of your contract,’ Garten said. ‘It’s buyers remorse 101.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2012-11-30 06:51:50

From the comments to the Nevada article:

‘cigs645:

Last Sundays Las Vegas review journal identified 58,500 vacant bank owned properties in the LV valley, none of which appear in any MLS database. they began stopping the flow of foreclosures to the market about a year ago when homes prices began their 15% yr to yr appreciation That’s how you manipulate a housing inventory in this recovery. Banks can’t keep those homes on their books forever and so long as the job market remains what it is just a matter of time before those banks have to let go of them much to the chagrin of recent LV valley home-buyers.’

PatrickC21: The Banks will not flood the market, period. They will taper these homes out and control the prices, just like they did before AB284. To say anything different is irresponsible.’

Who wants to bet that C21 stands for Century 21? ‘To say anything different is irresponsible’?

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-11-30 07:37:35

f’n lying realtors are shamelessly corrupt.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-11-30 08:02:47

“That’s how you manipulate a housing inventory in this recovery. Banks can’t keep those homes on their books forever and so long as the job market remains what it is just a matter of time before those banks have to let go of them much to the chagrin of recent LV valley home-buyers.”

It’s always some anonymous list of ‘banks’ which are involved in the price fixing operation. Is there any way to name the names of these banks and start a Sherman Antitrust Act action against them in the name of Main Street American families who just want a home to live in?

Comment by Rental Watch
2012-11-30 10:36:56

Question CIBT…NV law AB284 gives banks plenty of cover to dribble out foreclosures as slowly as they want.

If they are now increasing foreclosures, because, as the article speculates, they have figured out a way around the law, doesn’t that fly in the face of the argument that they are purposefully being slow?

If they wanted to be slow, it seems like there would be no spike in foreclosures.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2012-11-30 08:24:50

Irresponsible isn’t really the issue. The question is, is it true?

What if that anonymous “bank” is Fannie/Freddie?

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-11-30 09:12:00

This is a joke right? You’re asking if what a realtor is saying is truthful?

It’s all starting to make sense to me now.

 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-11-30 10:33:27

It’s baloney. Before AB284, there was a steady flow of foreclosures…there was no tapering out. Then AB284 happened, and foreclosures essentially stopped. Now banks are figuring out how to wade through the new regs (it has not been repealed…yet), and foreclosures are starting to increase again.

It WILL have a negative impact on home values…unless demand has ramped up that much during the period of few foreclosures.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-11-30 19:03:05

The only thing which has ramped up is new home construction- to make up for the dearth of homes on the market. It’s not going to end well.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-01 00:20:46

But it is sure to be entertaining to watch, and a great joy to be able to crow, “I told you so” to all the greater fools who ignored our steadfast warnings.

Got popcorn?

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Comment by tj
2012-11-30 11:15:48

Who wants to bet that C21 stands for Century 21? ‘To say anything different is irresponsible’?

they’re standing waste deep in freezing water, telling us “the water is fine, jump in”.

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-11-30 14:34:12

GAAAAA! This week’s circular bin remnants make me want to stick forks in my ears. I had to look twice at the dates on these bits. Here we have a classic example of “if you tell a big enough lie often enough….” and frankly, I’m sick of it.

One of my Thanksgiving guests drove through the back streets of Las Vegas on the way here from CO, and told us that the place looked deserted when he passed through. Few “For Sale” signs in evidence, but weeds, boarded businesses, empty parking lots, and desolation everywhere. Yet the lights burn bright.

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-11-30 17:07:33

Here we have a classic example of “if you tell a big enough lie often enough….” and frankly, I’m sick of it.

It’s about time. And yeah…. NAR member lies are persistent, frequent, broad, deep and everyone should be sick of these crooks.

 
 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2012-12-01 00:56:10

PatrickC21

:lol:

 
 
Comment by octal77
2012-11-30 06:58:14

“…And then there was the letter Cooper wrote for them to the seller. It said they had fallen in love with the ‘magnificently maintained’ …”

Are we entering into yet another “feed the squirrels” phase?

I used to think people would learn the first time around.

That optimism is now tarnished

Comment by Combotechie
2012-11-30 07:14:04

“The last time I had to use that letter was in 2007, at the peak, and we had more listings then.”

The same letter? Write a letter that works and then use it over and over again and make a lot of sales?

Lol.

Maybe he should copyright the letter, lease it out and get royalties every time it is used.

 
Comment by tresho
2012-11-30 07:16:32

used to think people would learn the first time around.
Remember there is another one ‘born every minute’ and that many minutes have passed since 2007.

Comment by octal77
2012-11-30 07:31:08

We will all know we are in even bigger trouble when we start seeing new TV commercials with “Suzanne says we can do this”

Maybe in the new commercials they will change Suzanne’s name to something else to fool the viewing public…<;}

Comment by ahansen
2012-11-30 14:38:12

The dying bleats of a disintegrating industry. Hasten the day the NBR blows another useless 100 million on advertising to people who can’t even afford their electric bill. Maybe they can convince Sheldon Adelson to play “Suzanne”. :-)

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Comment by Robin
2012-11-30 22:21:52

I far prefer Leonard Cohen’s rendition of “Suzanne”.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by tresho
2012-11-30 07:36:05

Since 1980, more than 60 million peasants have been moved. The displaced are not usually consulted before relocation. Governments frequently force them to leave by suspending the supply of utilities, such as electricity, to their homes. Increasingly, local governments are even hiring or colluding with gangsters to intimidate villagers who refuse to move. Tellingly, in some villages, these mobsters are known as the ’second government.’
Eminent Domain, Chinese style.

Comment by snake charmer
2012-11-30 16:15:21

Does anybody in a position of authority care that the global economy has tied itself to continued Chinese criminality?

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-11-30 19:06:50

No, because every last person in a position of authority is on the take. Greedworld.

 
Comment by tresho
2012-11-30 21:24:48

You may think different about criminality in other nations if you read this: Berwyn Heights, Maryland mayor’s residence drug raid

 
 
 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-11-30 07:36:08

Home prices in the New York metropolitan area, including North Jersey, dropped 2.3 percent in September compared with a year earlier

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaup!

The mid atlantic and northeast were late to the party. Let’em crater. Then buy later for 65% less.

 
Comment by tresho
2012-11-30 07:38:11

what’s the risk? The risk is that they could overpay for homes again.
Getting future FB’s to overpay for homes is the ultimate goal, not the risk.

Comment by Combotechie
2012-11-30 08:02:05

“Getting future FB’s to over pay for homes is the ultimate goal, not the risk.”

There it is. Get enough buyers to over pay and you solve some major lending problems.

Shoot up the price and the buyers will come out of the woodwork. Buyers coming out of the woodwork means the lenders willbe able to unload their inventory.

Not logical, but …

 
Comment by oxide
2012-11-30 16:44:19

What are you using as a reference for “overpay?” The salad days of 1949 - 1981 or so? HBB reminds me constantly that “those days aren’t coming back,” as in unions and pensions and jobs and cheap education, so why would the house prices of those day come back?

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-11-30 08:00:38

“And then there was the letter Cooper wrote for them to the seller. It said they had fallen in love with the ‘magnificently maintained’ home, and could envision their two daughters, ages 2 and 9 months, growing up there and playing in the backyard.”

Did the buyer also offer to feed the squirrels?

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-11-30 08:06:46

Apologies to octal77 — I posted this before noticing you had the same thought…just remember that after the last “feed the squirrels” phase came the “nobody could have seen it coming” 30 percent plus housing price declines phase.

Comment by octal77
2012-11-30 08:52:24

No AIA needed.. Too busy laughing at all the other comments!

 
Comment by Curt
2012-11-30 15:42:17

Only five short years ago:

June 17, 2005

Within a month of putting her two-bedroom house in San Francisco on the market recently, homeowner Linda Gao had five offers, each one above her asking price of $699,000. So before accepting the most-attractive bid, she threw in an extra condition: If you want to buy my house, you have to feed the squirrels.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-11-30 08:06:54

‘they had fallen in love with the ‘magnificently maintained’ home, and could envision…

Why don’t they just offer more money? That usually works.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-11-30 08:07:49

I think they did offer more money. Didn’t they win the bid war?

Comment by Combotechie
2012-11-30 08:15:58

Barnum in overdrive.

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Comment by Combotechie
2012-11-30 09:01:54

There are Darwin Awards, I think there should also be Barnum Awards.

Those who would otherwise qualify for a Darwin award but are excluded because they can still pass on their Stupidity Gene should instead be presented with a Barnum Award.

 
Comment by Neuromance
2012-11-30 14:35:08

It’s a fabulous system, government buying and insuring private debt. A system ripe for abuse. A system which inflates prices (houses, education), saddles people with yet more debt, but enriches Wall Street and their bought politicians.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-11-30 08:59:25

‘Didn’t they win the bid war’

That reminds me of the Simpsons scene where Lisa woke up Bart by saying over and over, ‘First Prize! First Prize!’

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Comment by Bigguy
2012-11-30 08:18:36

Give the person a plausible story for what they want to believe and they will believe it. Con Man Rules 101.

Housing supply is low, don’t mention why. Technically true.

I bowled a 176 yesterday, technically true. Don’t mention it was 2 games total.

Comment by SFBayGal
2012-11-30 13:14:53

Also called not lying, just not volunteering information.

Comment by tresho
2012-11-30 17:44:23

…also called ‘economical with the truth’

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-01 00:25:47

…or ‘magnanimous with the lies’

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Comment by scdave
2012-11-30 11:31:09

“Slowing the foreclosure process has allowed banks to avoid booking losses on non-performing loans, said Joshua Rosner, an analyst with Graham Fisher & Co. in New York.’The goal all along — from the banks, the servicers and the government — was sort of to slow walk the whole thing, bleed it through over time,’ Rosner said in a telephone interview.”

I have never seen it put more accurately than that right there…

Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-11-30 12:43:40

It’s been obvious for a while that the optimal plan for the banks to minimize their losses would be to delay foreclosures, keep them off their books as long as possible, and dribble houses back on the market over time (10 years?), instead of dumping a bunch of supply on the market at the same time.

This helps the banks, current homeowners and various levels of government, at the expense of buyers. Needless to say, all of the signs are there telling the buyers to go pound sand.

The builders seem to be the only people who may be able to undercut this plan…….by building new houses for less than the artificially high prices.

The question becomes whether there are any banks/entities willing to finance the builders, and put the screws to “all of the above”.

Comment by Combotechie
2012-11-30 13:13:11

“The builders seem to be the only people who may be able to undercut this plan … by building new houses for less than the artificially high prices.”

And the builders incentive to do this is - what? - to get less than they can? Why would they want to settle for selling houses for less than they can?

Comment by JoeSmith
2012-11-30 13:17:48

Exactly this.

Builders might prolong the agony for people trying to sell existing homes, but it won’t be by drastically undercutting them on price. It will be by selling brand new houses for just slightly more than the old ones. Or perhaps selling for slightly less. But the point is, it will take a long, long time for prices to “crater” down to their true “value”. It’s not going to happen this yr, next yr, or even in 5 yrs. I suspect home prices 10 yrs from now will be similar to what they are now… except that the value of the dollar will be quite a bit less, which means housing has lost “value”.

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Comment by scdave
2012-11-30 13:23:51

banks/entities willing to finance the builders ??

Depends on which builders you speak of…If its medium to small the answer is NO !!

The big builders (SFR’s) and the big multi-family developers are moving right along…Big builders doing smaller projects and releases and the big multi-family guy are going crazy around here right now…Same thing with the big commercial R&D developers…Loans are their least concern…Many self finance until they finish & lease the project…Then, based on the income schedule they refinance with long term money and pull their cash back out, move down the street and do it again…Money-begets-Money

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-11-30 21:06:02

“Money-begets-Money”

Like begets like.

How then would it work that debt would beget money? It’s a rule that some try to follow.

A fool and his money are soon parted, but reality is still on holiday.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-11-30 23:53:14

“Home prices in the New York metropolitan area, including North Jersey, dropped 2.3 percent in September compared with a year earlier, according to Standard & Poor’s Case-Shiller home price index. Home prices in the region have dropped 23 percent since their peak in mid-2006.”

Wait — did I read that right — that home prices in the New York City metro are off by 23 percent from their peak over half a decade ago?

I thought New York City was different, one of those places where prices never could possibly fall. I certainly don’t recall ever before reading that prices were off by nearly a quarter of their value, before factoring inflation, which implies an even larger drop in value in real terms. I guess I must have been asleep when this news first broke into the MSM…

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-01 00:37:06

“Governments borrow money using land as collateral and repay the interest on their loans using funds they earn from selling or leasing the same land. All this means that the Chinese economy depends on a buoyant real estate market to keep grinding. If housing and land prices fall dramatically, a fiscal or banking crisis would likely soon follow.”

Take it from the U.S.: pro-cyclical government-engineered correlation between the labor market and asset prices is truly a bitch in an economic downturn.

 
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