December 12, 2012

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 00:42:32

Soon to be the current date where I sit:

12/12/12 12:12

Comment by bink
2012-12-12 00:49:28

It’s still 12/11 here. Did the world end yet? I need to know… for.. purposes.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 00:58:46

Don’t buy a home until after the Mayan calendar prediction comes to pass.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:18:56

If I only sure that the world was going to end on the 21st, I might get married today. However, since Rasmussen only has it at 51-49, I can’t call it, so I dare not take the chance.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:20:12

If I only was sure (need coffee).

 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 09:05:26

The Mayan calendar doesn’t predict anything.
It works off planetary and solar cycles, and ran a full cycle to Dec 2012. It was made of Stone.
There is only so much space on a piece of stone.
Since it doesn’t go past 2012, what did they care?
I find the whole Mayan thing a huge bit of hyperbolic drivel. Look back at the year 2000.
I was programming computers back in 1985.
We had very little storage space and dates were usually shortened to 2 digits. Nobody was thinking 15 years ahead. We figured new programs would supercede anything we were doing at the time. 15 years later it’s an international “crisis”.
So, a bunch of human-sacrificing pagans are going to make a calendar that goes onto infinity for the sake of their “progeny”??
It’s just soooo stupid.
Because a calendar runs out of space, the world is going to end?? WTF??
And people call me a tin-foil hat kook because of my “bankster” /NWO /illuminati scenerios.

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Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2012-12-12 13:06:29

I like Mayan cacao:

http://tinyurl.com/cn3v49b

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 19:44:35

I like Mayan cacao

Everyone likes the smell of their own.

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 20:31:20

sooooo bad….

 
 
 
Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 01:37:45

Which suggests the question:
Will the world end all at once, or staggered along the time zones?

Comment by ArsonWinger
2012-12-12 04:43:06

At once and in GMT.

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Comment by ArsonWinger
2012-12-12 04:45:18

Because the destroyer god Shiva only knows GMT.

 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 05:52:47

The Mayans knew about Greenwich Mean Time?

 
Comment by ArsonWinger
2012-12-12 05:59:57

Yes Mayans created GMT.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 06:56:54

Mayan Central Time?

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Comment by Steaming pile of human feces
2012-12-12 09:19:59

The big mistake the Mayans made in their prediction was that they had no conception of Too Big To Fail at the time.

The World is TBTF. The Fed will save it.

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Comment by SFBayGal
2012-12-12 20:33:02

I love staggering towards the end of the world.

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Comment by oxide
2012-12-12 05:50:38

According to Wiki, the death and destruction aren’t until next week, on the 21st. Might want to update your Outlook.

Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 08:58:43

That’s true, 12/21/2012. Everybody knows about the Mayans but their predecessors, the Olmec are really interesting too. Most of their artifacts and hieroglyphs have yet to be translated. Fun fact: The Olmec invented the numbering system used by the Mayans and may have been one of the first civilizations to understand the concept of zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 09:12:26

I have been pondering the Zero thing for a long while now. I look at my income and see a zero, so I think, well, gee this zero thing is really, really bad.
Conversely, I see Federal Reserve Banksters ADDING lots of zeros to the few dollars they actually hold and saying they have $80,000,000,000 more money every month courtesy of a money-printing charlatan that has no masters. He is the master money-printer.
So, he and his friends are rich, and I and my friends are poor. All with Zeros. It’s really an incredible anti-number, representing nothing and infinity, all at the same time.

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Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 09:24:42

The concept of zero is fascinating but it pales in comparison to the idea of compounding interest. You take that away and and we go back to bartering pretty quick. If fact modern banking would be mathematically impossible!

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:10:04

Well, the truth is, modern banking is mathematically impossible. That is why we have continual banking problems.
You can’t have compounded “interest” without compounded production, unless you simply devalue everything to make up for the difference in “interest” appreciation vs. actual value of products made and purchased.

It is the very reason the Central Banksters want “inflation targets”. They say they are providing STABLE PRICES, but they are actually providing inflation.
One big problem is that anything that increases exponentially eventually hits a FINITE world reality.
Bankers are crooks, stealing with “interest”, the real work of their peasantry. The feudal system never got near the rake-off of these WORLD masters. Think about being a small-time Baron. You can’t compare that to the whole world paying tribute to your organized money-printing scheme.
All Hail Goldman-Sachs~~~!!

 
Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 10:26:43

O MAMMON
by Philip Appleman

O Mammon, Thou who art daily dissed
by everyone, yet boast more true disciples
than all other gods together,
Thou whose eerie sheen
gleameth from Corporate Headquarters
and Vatican Treasury alike, Thou
whose glittering eye impales us
in the X-ray vision of plastic surgeons,
the golden leer of televangelists,
the star-spangled gloat of politicos –
O Mammon, come down to us in the form
of Treasuries, Annuities, & High-Grade Bonds,
yield unto us those Benedict Arnold Funds,
those Quicksand Convertible Securities, even the wet
Judas Kiss of Futures Contracts – for
unto the least of these Thy supplicants
art Thou welcome in all Thy many forms. But
when Thou comest to say we’re finally in the gentry –
use the service entry.

 
Comment by tj
2012-12-12 11:23:56

They say they are providing STABLE PRICES, but they are actually providing inflation.

true and they are afraid of deflation. they shouldn’t be, but they are.

but there is a problem with a fixed money supply. if no new dollars were created, that is, only worn dollars were replaced, in a prospering economy the value would outgrow the denomination. for example, penny candy would need a lower denomination than a penny, because the penny would become more valuable than the candy would be worth buying. you could solve the problem with a bigger bag of candy for the penny. but what if you wanted to sell the same amount of candy? then you’d need some denomination of currency below a penny to make a good trade. the point is that a fiat currency will grow in value in a prospering economy. so you either need a good way to grow the money supply or divide a fixed money supply into smaller units. i think that the latter would be the better way to go.

 
Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 11:26:38

Nice, Blue. Thanks for posting.

 
Comment by sfhomowner
2012-12-12 12:41:40

Diogenes, watch out, you are channeling Darrell.

 
Comment by Bronco
2012-12-12 18:47:40

“watch out, you are channeling Darrell”

oh, I did not realize that he had passed away.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ArsonWinger
2012-12-12 06:06:22

Ha ha! You missed it.

 
Comment by michael
2012-12-12 15:01:48

it’s 12-12-2012 here.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 00:55:59

Song royalties are great, but even they can’t match the cash flow from a reverse mortgage.

– Mick Jagger
Tonight’s David Letterman Show Top Ten List, No. 5

Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 01:41:45

This is not the sort of quote I would ever have imagined when “Satisfaction” first hit the airwaves….

Comment by oxide
2012-12-12 05:53:17

My thought too, unless Jagger secretly reverse-mortgaged the Biltmore estate.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 06:44:57

I suspect that few knew when “Satisfaction” first hit the airwaves that young Mick studied at the London School of Economics.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 08:25:25

His dad was an LSE faculty member.

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Comment by ArsonWinger
2012-12-12 04:36:24

You can’t get any blood out from this Rolling Stone. Other being Keith.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 06:48:23

Papa was a Rolling Stone.
Wherever he left his hat was his home.
And when he died,
All he ever left us was a loan.

Comment by MiddleCoaster
2012-12-12 08:30:53

Ha ha ha !

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Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:02:08

Good one.

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Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:03:58

Obama, Boehner trade ‘fiscal cliff’ proposals but appear no closer to a deal
By Lori Montgomery and Paul Kane, Published: December 11

President Obama and House Speaker John A. Boehner were struggling late Tuesday to prevent negotiations from breaking down after they traded dueling proposals for averting the year-end “fiscal cliff” that made no progress toward an agreement.

Obama telephoned Boehner (R-Ohio) on Tuesday, hours after receiving the speaker’s latest proposal for a deal on taxes and spending. The offer was virtually identical to the document Obama summarily rejected just one week ago, according to Republican aides.

The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza looks at the potential dealmakers in the “fiscal cliff” talks.

Obama’s chief negotiator, Rob Nabors, later rushed to the Capitol to meet with Boehner’s top aides.

Even as Boehner spokesman Michael Steel announced that a new offer had been delivered to the White House, he complained that Republicans are “still waiting” for Obama to propose serious cuts to popular health and retirement programs that are forecast to swell the national debt in coming decades.

“Where are the president’s spending cuts?” Boehner asked earlier in the day in a speech on the House floor. “The longer the White House slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff.”

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 06:50:36

‘…“still waiting” for Obama to propose serious cuts to popular health and retirement programs that are forecast to swell the national debt in coming decades.’

The liability looks much worse in light of FOMC-engineered near-zero interest rates.

Comment by frankie
2012-12-12 06:59:10

Can’t be having no deal until the last second, where would the suspense and theatre be in an early deal.

Comment by Bad Chile
2012-12-12 07:46:51

Can’t be having no deal until the last second, where would the suspense and theatre be in an early deal.
Bingo. Few things are more precious to exploit than a political crises; why squander it 19 days early?
I suspect that the current calculus is about 50% about future fiscal policy, and 50% is about how to maximize the return on the opportunity to appear to save the day. I imagine there is a good sized working group that has studied the “when” of coming to an agreement. Fortunately for the public, there are no real good news days to announce an agreement after the 27th.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:06:43

Both sides want to appear that they fought to the bitter end until they end up doing something that will look like a down payment on Bowles/Simpson.

 
Comment by oxide
2012-12-12 09:12:18

Obama isn’t fighting… not yet anyway. He’s just pointing at the clock.

 
 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 09:00:54

Last thing I need is these bozos shouting on my TV during holidays. Go away!

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 08:32:19

John Boehner is Racist®.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 09:30:04

Obama is a racist.
Jesse Jackson is a racist.
Al Sharpton is a racist.

What’s your point?

Comment by East-West
2012-12-12 11:14:15

My point is that John Boehner’s name looks a lot like a term for an excited male’s dinger, and that’s worth a laugh every time you read it. If only Dick Armey and Anthony Weiner could have helped out with the negotiations, it would have done a lot to heal the nation’s funny bone if not its soul.

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Comment by Ryan
2012-12-12 12:55:19

Like a bag full of….Boehners?

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 13:15:30

Hemmed in by a lost election and overwhelming public support for taxing the wealthy at a higher rate, Obama does appear to have his Boehner in a box.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:06:55

Fed is expected to launch revamped bond buying program to aid economy as ‘fiscal cliff’ looms
By Associated Press, Published: December 10

WASHINGTON — The Federal Reserve is expected to announce a revamped bond-buying plan Wednesday to maintain its support for the U.S. economy.

The Fed’s goal would be to keep downward pressure on long-term interest rates and encourage individuals and companies to borrow and spend. If it succeeds, the Fed might at least soften the blow from tax increases and spending cuts that will kick in in January if Congress can’t reach a budget deal.

But its actions wouldn’t rescue the economy. Chairman Ben Bernanke warned last month that if the economy fell off a “broad fiscal cliff,” the Fed probably couldn’t offset the shock.

Fears of the cliff have led some U.S. companies to delay expanding, investing and hiring. Manufacturing has slumped. Consumers have cut back on spending. Unemployment remains a still-high 7.7 percent. If higher taxes and government spending cuts lasted for much of 2013, most experts say the economy would sink into another recession.

On Tuesday, the Fed began a two-day meeting, which will end Wednesday afternoon with a statement announcing its policy decisions. Afterward, the Fed will update its forecasts for the economy, and Chairman Ben Bernanke will hold a news conference.

The expectation is that the Fed will unveil a program to buy $45 billion a month in long-term Treasurys. This would replace an expiring program called Operation Twist. With Twist, the Fed sold $45 billion a month in short-term Treasurys and used the proceeds to buy the same amount in longer-term Treasurys.

Comment by michael
2012-12-12 06:51:55

Who’d a thunk.

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:24:05

If they act now they hope to keep the adult participation rate in the work force from dropping into the 50% handle. I was kind of looking forward to the unemployment rate at 5%, with almost half the population not working.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-12-12 08:45:04

‘According to the BIS’ latest Quarterly Review financial markets are starting to behave in some of the ways they behaved before the crash. In particular, investors seem to be chasing riskier and riskier assets, despite the fact that the economic prospects are hardly all that great.’

‘Here is the key passage from the BIS report: “Some asset prices started to appear highly valued in historical terms relative to indicators of their riskiness. For example, global high-yield corporate bond spreads fell to levels comparable to those of late 2007, but with the default rate on these bonds running at around 3%, whereas it was closer to 1% in late 2007.”

“The same was true of investment grade corporate bond spreads, but with respective default rates of a little over 1% and around 0.5%. Indeed, numerous bond investors said that they felt less well compensated for risk than in the past, but that they had little alternative with rates on many bank deposits close to zero and the supply of other low-risk investments in decline.”

http://news.sky.com/story/1023326/new-crash-warning-comes-from-proven-source

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Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 12:09:59

Big news on the FED today. They set a specific employment target of 6.5%. Congress is made the rules BTW. The FED is supposed to: #1 Maintain price stability (infinite inflation), and #2 Promote full employment.
So now a banker sets the target and the guys over at BLS will make sure it happens. From this point forward, full employment will forever be defined as 6.5%. Thousands of economic models will now be re-programed and predict infinite prosperity.

Comment by tj
2012-12-12 12:47:41

From this point forward, full employment will forever be defined as 6.5%.

and we’ll never get there again with the policies we have. infinite prosperity as you say, is an infinite problem. the more they try to engineer it, the further we get from it.

 
 
 
Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:13:05

This dead cat bounce is destined to land on the sidewalk.

Local realtors claim housing slump ending: San Diego home prices up 17%
Prices 17% higher in November than one year ago
Posted: 12/12/2012
Last Updated: 4 hours ago
Allison Ash

SAN DIEGO - San Diego home prices were 17 percent higher in November than they were a year ago, and that’s “tremendous,” according to the president of the Greater San Diego Association of Realtors.

“It’s a big increase,” said Donna Sanfilippo, who explained that while the median price for single family homes was up 17 percent, the increase was 27 percent for condominiums and townhomes.

It shows the real estate market is recovering, but there are still growing pains.

“The biggest thing we’re experiencing is a lack of inventory,” she said. “When you have less than two months’ supply on the market – and we’ve been consistently at that for the past several months – that means some of that appreciation is multiple offer situations where it’s almost a bidding war, and that’s going to increase appreciation, especially in an entry-level housing market.”

Buyers like Chequita Falls are finding out its becoming a seller’s market.

“There’s not that much out there,” she said. “I started looking in August and I was really excited and thinking that it’s going to come through. Now with these investors paying cash, I don’t have a chance.”

Falls called the investors “sharks” that hurt her chance of achieving the American dream of home ownership.

“I’m mad about it,” she said. “It’s sad. What happens to middle income people? We’ll never be homeowners.”

The median price for a single-family home in San Diego is now $408,000. In November of 2011, it was $350,000.

Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 10:05:06

Forget median. What does the apples/apples comparison say?

Per Case Shiller, SD is up 4% September ‘11 to September ‘12.

Up, but not massively.

The increase in median speaks more to there being fewer cheap foreclosures trading hands, and more “typical” sales occurring.

Per Zillow, in October, only 13.4% of sales were of homes that had been foreclosed within the prior 12 months. A year ago, this number was 25.7%. Fewer cheap homes in the mix equals higher median home price.

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 10:23:26

Forget apples and apples. What do current transaction records say about prices?

In Santa Clara County(Bay Area) transaction records show that prices are down MoM and QoQ 1.2% and 3.6% respectively.

http://www.zillow.com/local-info/CA-Santa-Clara-County-home-value/r_3136/#metric=mt%3D19%26dt%3D1%26tp%3D5%26rt%3D6%26r%3D3136%26el%3D0

Why would you lie about this rental watch?

Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 11:20:57

So then, you say that the median home prices are up 17% in San Diego?

I think that dramatically overstates things.

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Comment by CRATER!!!!
2012-12-12 12:30:26

Read you liar.

In Santa Clara County(Bay Area) transaction records show that prices are down MoM and QoQ 1.2% and 3.6% respectively.

http://www.zillow.com/local-info/CA-Santa-Clara-County-home-value/r_3136/#metric=mt%3D19%26dt%3D1%26tp%3D5%26rt%3D6%26r%3D3136%26el%3D0

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 13:11:45

San Diego (what this thread is about) is NOT Santa Clara.

Look at a map.

 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 13:24:51

Wrong again Rental Pimp.

San Diego transaction prices are down MoM and QoQ. And no… they’re not up 17% YoY.

Nice try though.

http://www.zillow.com/local-info/CA-San-Diego-home-value/r_54296/#metric=mt%3D19%26dt%3D1%26tp%3D5%26rt%3D8%26r%3D54296%252C116625%252C118673%252C117557%26el%3D0

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 15:39:04

Read the article that this thread was started with that claimed 17% year on year median change, and my first response rebutting the numbers based on Case Shiller, which notes 4% year on year (not the median).

 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 15:47:02

Stop ducking, weaving and cowering and read the data. Prices in San Diego are headed down.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 16:10:56

Article says 17% year on year increase
Case Shiller says 4% year on year increase
You share data that indicates a 4.8% year on year increase–but like to point out the month-on-month and quarter-on-quarter data…as though seasonality in median prices doesn’t exist.

I say 17% is flawed because the mix of high/low prices alters the median.

Zillow shows half as much distressed property trading hands today as a year ago (which effects median).

I’m hiding behind nothing.

I apparently just understand more about the data and how it works than you.

 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 16:16:33

Apparently you just backpedal from your long history of lying.

You’re a liar and everyone knows it.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 23:48:34

“Up, but not massively.”

And that’s in response to record levels of government-sponsored reflation stimulus. What happens when the market response to stimulus passes the point of diminishing returns?

 
 
 
Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:18:59

Working for zombie companies can be highly lucrative.

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Managers’ Median Pay: $200,000 a Year
By The Associated Press
Posted 5:16PM 12/10/12 Posted under: Real Estate, Banking, Government
By MARCY GORDON

WASHINGTON — A government report finds median pay for nearly 2,000 senior managers at government-controlled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exceeded $200,000 last year.

The Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees the two mortgage giants, also did an inadequate job monitoring pay, according to the report released Monday from the inspector general for the FHFA.

The median figure means that half the managers received salaries above $200,000 and half received less.

Those managers represent nearly 17 percent of the roughly 11,900 total employees at the two bailed-out companies. Compensation for senior managers at the companies cost about $455 million in 2011, according to the report.

The report also says the top 333 of those managers are vice presidents who had median pay of $388,000. That’s close to salaries paid by private financial firms and exceeds pay for similar jobs at federal agencies.

Because the FHFA doesn’t closely evaluate the compensation of senior managers, it is unable “to ensure that the costs associated with senior professional compensation are warranted,” the report says.

Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:07:08

I’ll bet there’s a HUGE gap between what the rest make and that 200K.

That’s usually how it is everywhere. The peons are lucky to see 50K.

Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-13 00:08:41

I thought the point was that other federal government employees with similar credentials and job responsibilities get paid far less than the $200K/yr F&F folks.

Is it because it is a “quasi-govt” agency that they are able to disregard the rules that limit pay to other govt employees, despite their ongoing dependence on federal govt life support?

 
 
 
Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:21:50

End Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
By David C. John
Wednesday, December 5, 2012
ANALYSIS/OPINION:

It is time to pull the plug on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Before they failed in 2008, both had moved well beyond their original raison d’etre: Providing low-cost funds to the housing market by packaging mortgages into bond issues and selling them to investors. Their investments in their own and others’ high-risk mortgage bonds failed spectacularly. The government was forced to take them over, costing taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars.

Today, they remain under government control. They still account for more than 90 percent of the housing finance market. Because their fees for guaranteeing and packaging mortgages into bond issues are so low, the private sector is effectively frozen out.

Policymakers should be focused on fixing this dysfunctional approach to mortgage finance. Instead, the administration and its congressional allies have launched a series of generally unsuccessful efforts to enable borrowers to refinance homes that are now worth less than they owe.

With housing gradually rebounding, the need for mass refinancing programs has passed. Rising prices will enable underwater borrowers to return to building equity. Policymakers should now turn to developing a housing finance system that will stimulate housing sales.

The process of phasing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac can and should begin without delay. Both housing finance giants should gradually increase the cost of their services. This will enable private sector competitors to enter the market. The transition can take place without disrupting the housing market.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 09:24:25

Policymakers should be focused on fixing this dysfunctional approach to mortgage finance. Instead, the administration and its congressional allies have launched a series of generally unsuccessful efforts to enable borrowers to refinance homes that are now worth less than they owe…………….

As long as Obama is sitting in the Whitehouse, every useless and wasteful agency will expand and increase its need for taxpayer money. That is how you achieve “re-distribution”, his goal as a “black liberation” theology convert (Rev. Wright vintage).

He has spent this whole “fiscal cliff” time to preach to people about the need to tax rich people more. He has not, and will not submit a ‘budget’ that provides CUTS in spending, wishing to tag ALL the Cuts on the backs of the Republicans.
It is my sincere wish the fiscal cliff is embraced and a real negotiation will take place, without the Obama stonewalling on putting his PROPOSED CUTS on the table for all the world to see.
NO more give us this, and, later, we’ll make some cuts. NO DEAL. We’ve seen this game waaaay too many times before.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2012-12-12 14:30:41

End the FHA.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:08:53

These programs and agencies will NEVER be shut down. They are the insider/back channel for big money and the entire FIRE sector.

 
 
Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:26:25

Long-treasured mortgage interest deduction may face changes
‘Fiscal cliff’ debate has put home mortgage interest deduction on the table. Critics contend it benefits the wealthy much more than the middle class.
December 10, 2012|By Jim Puzzanghera, Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON — At 70, Frank White isn’t a typical first-time home buyer. But a key reason he ditched his Altadena apartment and bought a three-bedroom house in nearby Pasadena has been common for decades: He wanted the tax break.

“I pay very high taxes, and I have no deductions,” said White, who owns an apartment rental business with his two brothers. Now, after purchasing the $500,000 home in November, he’s looking forward to writing off the interest on his 30-year mortgage.

But the longtime tax break could face major changes as Washington policymakers search for ways to reduce the deficit as part of the debate on the so-called fiscal cliff. And that’s sending shivers through home buyers such as White and much of the housing industry.

“My deductions are important to me, what few I have,” White said. “We need to go after the corporations that don’t pay a … cent. Let’s go after those guys first. But leave me alone.”

The home mortgage interest deduction is one of the most cherished in the U.S. tax code. It’s also one of the most expensive, estimated to cost the federal government $100 billion this fiscal year.

Comment by oxide
2012-12-12 09:10:24

He could have spent 10 minutes on the Internet:

Rent on mid-grade 2-bedroom apartment in Pasadena: ~$1600-1800/month
(apartmentfinder)
PITI on $500K dwelling in Pasadena: ~$2800
(assume 4% down, zillow says ~$788 tax ins)
MID cash on $480K mortgage at 28% bracket: $422/month.
(bankrate)

More considerations:
1. The $500K dwelling on Zillow, which I used to find PITI, was a 2-bed apartment. A $500k house is likely to require repairs and may have a higher tax.
2. If this guy owns an apartment rental company, couldn’t he live in one of the apartments?
3. And he’s 70… If he can’t take care of a 3-bed house, he’ll need to pay out for cleaning/lawn services.

Verdict: Does not pencil out, even if prices are stable. Why did he do it? My guess is hot and/or enhanced Re-al-tor.

Comment by polly
2012-12-12 09:51:24

Much more likely to be tax derangement syndrome, where he cares more about reducing the taxes he pays to the feds than he cares about the amount of money he keeps after he has paid all his housing related costs.

Comment by East-West
2012-12-12 11:20:59

Old men seem to suffer from that syndrome a lot.

It hasn’t hit me yet, but I’m really looking forward to it, to yelling at children, and to keeping people off my lawn.

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Comment by Grinchinator™
2012-12-12 01:28:14

Pre-Market Indications
Futures:
S&P 500 -0.05%
DOW 0.0%
NASDAQ -0.02%

Here’s your best bet to beating a ‘rigged’ market

Commentary: Is Wall Street a “rigged game,” too difficult for anyone but the pros? Financial blogger Tadas Viskanta tells why this, in fact, is one of the best times to be an individual investor.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 08:26:43

So put your money into the stock market and watch it go poof!

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 13:03:41
 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 13:28:54

We’ll just put your money into an emerging market index aaaaaaaaannnnd it’s gone! Thanks for investing with Vampire Squid!

 
 
 
Comment by frankie
2012-12-12 04:13:26

Costa Coffee sales rose by 7.1% in the last three months against the backdrop of protests and boycotts against its closest rival Starbucks because of the US chain’s controversial tax arrangements.

“We have been the UK’s favourite coffee shop for some time; we remain the taxman’s favourite coffee shop too,” declared Andy Harrison, chief executive of parent company Whitbread.

Harrison said it was impossible to attribute Costa’s increasingly strong performance to the controversy surrounding Starbucks’s tax affairs, but he noted that Costa had enjoyed a record week last week, with UK stores – excluding franchised shops – taking £10m and attracting 3.8m customers. The weather may have played a part too – cold but dry, a perfect blend for coffee shop sales.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/dec/11/costa-coffee-sales-starbucks

Tax avoidance campaigners have held protests at Starbucks cafes across the UK, despite the firm’s pledge to pay millions of pounds of extra corporation tax for the next two years.

UK Uncut says the coffee firm’s promise to pay £20m is “a desperate attempt to deflect public pressure” from itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20650945

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:01:04

Cheer up, mate. At least you have better football.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:15:19

Have we not, at least, suspected this link since Gerald Ford? Remember all the jokes about him not wearing his helmet. To me the only thing that has changed is that the steroid enhanced players can do more damage to each other. But whether your a punch drunk fighter or a football player, you assume the risk of many injuries due to your sport.

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Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:17:35

I read the article and was struck by the stupidity of a Lawsuit by the NFL players because they say the “league” withheld information about a possible long-term effect and they all need MORE MONEY beyond the Millions they already got and squandered.

It’s a shame courts don’t take frivolous lawsuits and simply throw them out, instead of wasting valuable time and money entertaining this stupidity.
NFL Players are “FREE AGENTS”, meaning they come to the game with full knowledge they gained on their own of what their risk vs. payment would be when they signed a “contract”. It’s a contact sport. You might get hurt. How much you payin???
Okay, i’m in.
End of Story. End of liability.
Good-bye shyster lawyers.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 12:44:55

The NFLPA should quit screwing around trying to get the owners to pay for head injury research and helmet design, and fund it themselves.

Like the Snell Foundation for auto racing and motorcycle helmets.

In fact, as much money as they are making, they should buy their own helmets.

 
 
Comment by frankie
2012-12-12 14:29:13

Think you’ve said this before goon, do you play American football ;)

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 04:29:08

Politico - Counting the casualties of Barack Obama’s drone wars:

“It is a fascinating thing to behold when the most self-righteous among us are forced to watch their false idols crumble to the ground in a miserable heap of rubbish. Just as millions of faithful followers were forced to watch Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker’s PTL empire collapse the late 1980s, a new breed of puritanical prigs will be forced to face the fallacies that form the foundation of their political faith.

History treated the Bakker clan with the contempt they rightly deserved. I suspect it will be no kinder to those “progressives” horrified by George W. Bush’s anti-terror campaign but mute to the terror of the Obama administration’s savage drone wars. These sensitive souls, so repulsed by the waterboarding of three terrorists ten years ago, now celebrate their administration’s version of a war on terror that swapped out the targeted capture of terrorists with a drone program that all too often kills children, women, grandparents and scores of innocent young men.

The left’s twisted morality pose on this topic too often comes in fits and starts, with the most righteous of the lot declaring Bush a war criminal for his interrogation techniques while granting absolution to the man who champions a far more brutish approach. One wonders where these secular televangelists have gone in a week when BBC reporters tell of an 8-year-old girl having her young skin pierced by a drone bomb’s shrapnel while watching her grandmother being blown to a thousand pieces in front of her young eyes.

Where have all the human rights heroes gone?

Where are the ladies of Code Pink?

Where are those protesters driven to rage over the waterboarding of 3 terrorists who are now so ambivalent about random killings?

They are nowhere to be seen. The facts of the past decade have shown these “human rights activists” to be little more than opportunistic political hacks who share Jim Bakker’s selective morality. Like Bakker at the height of his PTL glory, these left wing ideologues choose silence and a political pose that owes more to the embrace of power than a respect for human rights.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/countdown-to-zero-dark-thirty-84904.html?hp=r5

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 06:36:02

So are you saying it is wrong for Nobel Peace Prize winner to have a kill list of American citizens?

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 06:48:07

According to Scarborough, we should surgically snatch out a bad guy, torture the truth out of him, then send in a team of brave heroes (not including our sons or daughters) to surgically snatch out the bad guys we learned about through the torture, hurting nobody in the process, and then we torture them and continue the cycle.

Until a Republican gets voted in as president, at which point we can begin wholesale invading countries again.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 07:16:00

For a second I thought you were going to say:

Until a Republican gets voted in as president, at which point we can begin wholesale demonstrations, nightly death counts in the news and to bring back Cindy Sheehan…

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 06:42:45

Joe Scarborough says:

Bush torture = good

Obama drones = evil

Surprise, surprise.

Comment by Ben Jones
2012-12-12 06:55:20

‘Scarborough says: Bush torture = good, Obama drones = evil’

Here we have a perfect example of how to use the two party system to cover up crimes and justify pretty much anything. Who gives a damn what Joe whatshisface ever said? Is the sitting president killing innocent people or not? Shhh, it’s kinda secret, unless he wants to hint about his ‘toughness’ on comedy central. For votes, no less. That’s where we’ve gotten. A guy can brag about killing people and calculate that it will bring in more votes, even though most are innocent.

Obama = war criminal with a pass from liberals. (And neo-cons).

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 06:58:54

B-b-b-but Ben, he’s fighting the “good” war.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 07:14:08

Has there ever been a war in which no innocent people died?

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Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 07:32:52

“Has there ever been a war in which no innocent people died?”

War of the Roses

http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Movies/War-of-the-Roses-The-14993.html - -

Did the Rose’s die? … Oliver is played by Michael Douglas and Barbara is played by Kathleen Turner. … end up dangling from a chandelier from which they plummet to their deaths.

 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 09:55:38

You do know that the Wars of the Roses actually existed (between the Lancastrian and York branches of the House of Plantagenet) and plenty of people died, right?

 
Comment by Spook
2012-12-12 10:00:59

Has there ever been a war in which no innocent people died?
——–

There are no innocent people in a race war.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 10:09:09

You do know that the Wars of the Roses actually existed

I’m guessing…no.

 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:10:13

War of the Pigs in 1859, US vs Great Britain:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War

 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 10:16:48

“You do know that the Wars of the Roses actually existed (between the Lancastrian and York branches of the House of Plantagenet) and plenty of people died, right?”

Yes I do but that was between between 1455 and 1485, the War of the Roses with Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner was in 1989 and only 2 people died. (neither one would give up the house) :)

 
Comment by Ryan
2012-12-12 13:03:17

“Has there ever been a war in which no innocent people died?”

Innocent? Innocent of what?

 
 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:25:09

I used to like Amy Goodman for her anti war stance. Imagine my surprise when I found out that she was an Obama bundler. Left never cared about wars, human rights and all the other good stuff. It was a facade, a mean to get the power. When challanged directly, they deflect, make excuses like Alpha. Pretty pathetic.

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 07:49:20

I’ve heard Obama get trashed on Democracy Now. As recently as Monday, when the Nobel Peace Prize was announced.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:04:01

make excuses like Alpha

I make no excuses for thinking we sometimes need to use force against our enemies. i just think it should be done intelligently.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:31:31

If you want it intelligently why would you use drones instead of snatching missions? Less “collateral” damage is done and more intelligence is gathered by capturing terrorists whether enhanced techniques are used or not on the prisoners.

Osama could have been killed by a drone but it was better to get all the information in his house and his stash of porn for those slow moments watching the drones.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:41:23

Snatching people seems a lot more risky and dangerous to our men than a drone strike. I imagine sometimes that risk is worth it (Osama eg), or else the risk is minimal ( the guy’s in a hotel in Paris eg).

Plus the intelligence we get from drones is probably as important as what we get from captured enemy.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 09:03:07

No question there is more danger to our men, but everytime we kill innocents they are used as propaganda against us to recruit more members. To win the war, you must kill more terrorists than you create. I do not say you never can use drones but you do not get the same level of information from using drones than you do grabbing terrorists and you have more backlash due to the killing of innocents. Remember the movie “Clear and Present Danger” where the president backs off from his war on Columbian drug dealers due to the killing of children and the pictures appearing in the press? Pictures like that are shown to people in Pakistan on an almost daily basis.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 09:16:03

I agree civilian deaths are a bad side-effect of the drone strikes, but there’s absolutely no way you can say there would be less civilian deaths if we snatched instead. There would probably be more!

Not to mention the inevitable time when our men get captured and held hostage, maybe beheaded on Youtube. How would that work out in the propaganda world?

 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:12:54

Drone strikes are run by the CIA.

Seal Team 6 is limited in the number of women and children they can execute.

CIA had no limitations.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 11:44:51

Not to mention the inevitable time when our men get captured and held hostage, maybe beheaded on Youtube. How would that work out in the propaganda world?

The son of a family friend was captured and beheaded. Remember Nick Berg? His dad and my mother taught school together.

Believe me, whatever group did that sure didn’t win any propaganda points in West Chester, Pennsylvania. Or, for that matter, in too many other places.

 
 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:28:44

He’s not saying any such thing. You are saying that. He is saying Bush was vilified for doing FAR LESS harm than Obama. That’s all.
And, yet, Bush was lambasted as a “war criminal”, and Obama is just another nice guy playing video games with real people as victims.

What’s amazing about MOST of your posts is that whatever Obama does, it somehow must be turned to BUSH.
Obama is never viewed as his own man, and what he does is never open to scrutiny.
It’s always, well, Bush was worse.

Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 11:46:05

“Far less harm”…

Unilaterally invading a country under false pretext, ruining its infrastructure, killing half-a-million of its private citizens, and destroying 2,000 years of its history (oh, and looting our own treasury in the process) =targeted missile attacks on known individual combatants.

Right.

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Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 12:46:27

+1 Ahansen….

It’s always, well, Bush was worse ??

No…Its Bush was “The Worst”…..

 
Comment by Ryan
2012-12-12 13:09:14

You people.

There is the same amount of the same colored blood on both their hands. That same blood will be on the hands of whoever is elected in 2016 as well.

Look around you, this is now the world you live in, there will be no change in these foreign policies. Get used to it and get over it.

 
Comment by SV guy
2012-12-12 13:16:45

Isn’t it kind of sad that we are arguing over who is the worst murderer?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:19:35

Did Obama initiate the wars or did Bush?

In most common law (and common sense) the blame is always laid squarely on the person who CREATED the problem in the first place.

 
Comment by Ryan
2012-12-12 20:08:49

We are talking large-scale wars (High Intensity) that Bush started. You are right, he started them but Obama has continued on….in Iraq as well.

Let’s talk Low Intensity now in places like Mali, Somalia, Uganda, etc. The dark corners of the globe where the press can’t or won’t go to see what happens. Do you think it’s the Boy Scouts in there fighting following the Geneva Conventions?

You are avoiding the truth. Nobody is innocent.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 20:24:55

Nobody is innocent.

A baby?

 
 
Comment by Pete
2012-12-12 17:06:05

“He is saying Bush was vilified for doing FAR LESS harm than Obama.”

I always took the talking point to be that waterboarding was ineffective as well as cruel and is usable as propaganda against us. Take away the ineffective part, and there might not have been such an objection. I don’t know how effective it really is, but I remember its reported lack of success being a huge part of the discussion

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 19:55:03

but I remember its reported lack of success being a huge part of the discussion

The Israelis don’t do it, and if it worked, they would. They, and many others, say it gives you unreliable information (people tend to say whatever they think will stop the torture).

(What do the Israelis say works? The old good cop/bad cop routine. It’s a classic for a reason.)

 
 
 
 
Comment by Lip
2012-12-12 07:26:37

As usual, the liberal/progressive/democrat gets a pass while any conservative/republican would get hammered incessantly. Its not even “the ends justify the means in this case”, its just our guy is good so don’t do anything to rock the boat.

I’m waiting for the day when the current administration turns it’s lies and illegal ways against its own constituents.

Like in a few weeks millions of democrats will figure out that their taxes are going up just like the rest of us. Then they will know that the “Bush Tax Cuts” weren’t just for the rich.

Hope everyone is having a Merry Christmas this year.
Lip

Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 07:31:05

The election is over.

Move on.

Comment by Lip
2012-12-12 07:39:01

buzz off yourself

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Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:34:14

Tell that to Obama. He’s out on the campaign trail trying to raise public support for his New taxes on the rich or NO deal.
Oh? That’s the ONLY deal.
Yea. Let me sell this while I should be back in Washington working out a proposal.
NO, no. It makes me look more magnanimous if I talk real big about how I care for the little people.
Oh, pleezee. no more campaigning?

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:35:48

Give Eric Holder time, he’s got a Waco up his sleeve for O’s second term :)

Comment by joesmith
2012-12-12 07:38:04

Holder isn’t going to be AG for most of the 2nd term. He needs to get back to private practice; he’s giving up far too much cheddar to keep doing “government service” for much longer.

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:44:15

Clinton was only in office three months when Janet Reno gassed and cooked the women and children alive at Waco:

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:12:46

Funny how au courant it is to stress “making bank” throughout the D.C. area.

Above there are articles about Fannie/FRed managers banking $200,000K+ annually.

Bank, bank, bank.

Bank = Washington

Washington = Bank

Rather than striving to become exemplars of bank, why not do something truly novel for D.C. - such as striving to become exemplars of ethics, decency and class?

But why do that, right? Encouraging morals and ethics in D.C. would slow the ease of making bank.

More laws = more unethical behavior = making more bank.

Pretty nifty, eh?

 
 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 09:21:15

Waco was a wonderful place…Unless you are a 12 year old female …I guess we should just have let him be;

The article alleged that Koresh had physically abused children in the compound and had taken multiple underage brides amounting to statutory rape. Koresh was also said to advocate polygamy for himself and declared himself married to several female residents of the small community. According to the paper, Koresh declared he was entitled to at least 140 wives, that he was entitled to claim any of the females in the group as his, that he had fathered at least a dozen children through the harem and that some of these mothers became brides as young as 12 or 13 years old.[17]

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Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:14:15

He sounds Mormon.

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:41:37

And so, instead of arresting Koresh, when he was on one of his trips to town, we send in an army of mercenaries with guns drawn and circle the “compound” with tanks.
Then we start a fire-fight and KILL all the residents.
ARE you NUTS????
How can you read all the media crap about how Koresh was a child-molester, so we need to kill everybody??
This is insane.
Good work. And Janet Reno, just like every other government criminal goes on with her career in government,commended for her fine job in ’saving the children’, then retiring on the backs of all the working poor.

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 11:04:25

I have a better summary of WACO:

“We have to Kill the children to save them”>.

-Janet Reno.

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 11:41:21

Then we start a fire-fight and KILL all the residents ??

Who killed whom ??

Barricaded in their building, seventy-six Branch Davidians, including Koresh, did not survive the fire…..

 
Comment by Spook
2012-12-12 12:08:03

And so, instead of arresting Koresh, when he was on one of his trips to town, we send in an army of mercenaries with guns drawn and circle the “compound” with tanks.
Then we start a fire-fight and KILL all the residents.
———————–

Years ago I saw a Waco documentary that claimed the raid was a public relations stunt “gone bad”.

They suggested the ATF had legal issues stemming from a class action lawsuit brought by black members of the agency. This was in addition to other problems surfacing.

The raid was meant to advertise the importance of the ATF. and counter the bad news the agency was generating.

BTW, keep in mind that class action lawsuits are sometimes settled without going to court.

The black engineers at Goddard Space Flight Center had one several years ago that was settled with compensation. But one of the requirements of the settlement was a ban on discussing the case by any of the members of the class, and a finding of “no wrong doing” by the agency.

Those were some of the requirements the class members had to agree with in order to “be made whole”.

Yeah, the black people got paid, but they really can’t talk to other black people about how it happened and what they did to correct it.

This means some other group of black people eventually have to go through the same thing all over again.

Its a very interesting story and should be required reading for black high school students.

But it won’t be.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:23:14

That same scenario is very common is almost all civil and civil rights suits and judgements and is one of the biggest problem in this country today.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2012-12-12 08:28:08

‘Over the last months, Democrats and Republicans have been engaged in an intense fight over the suitability of UN Ambassador Susan Rice to replace Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State…What is remarkable is how so many Democrats are devoting so much energy to defending a possible Susan Rice nomination as Secretary of State without even pretending to care about her record and her beliefs. It’s not even part of the discussion. And now that some writers have begun examining that record, it’s not hard to see the reason for this omission.’

‘Last week, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern extensively documented Rice’s long record of cheering for US wars, including being an outspoken and aggressive advocate of the attack on Iraq, support that persisted for many years. In a New York Times Op-Ed yesterday, Eritrean-American journalist Salem Solomon condemned Rice’s fondness for tyrants in Africa, while Black Agenda Report’s Glen Ford argued - with ample documentation - that her supporters “care not a whit for Africa, whose rape and depopulation has been the focus of Rice’s incredibly destructive career.”

‘A New York Times news article from Monday separately suggests that Rice’s close ties to the ruling regime in Rwanda - that government “was her client when she worked at Intellibridge, a strategic analysis firm in Washington” - has led Washington to tacitly endorse its support for brutal rebels in the Congo.’

‘Meanwhile, so-called “pro-Israel” groups have vocally supported her possible nomination due to her steadfast defense of Israel at the UN, hailing her as “an ardent defender of major Israeli positions in an unfriendly forum.” It was recently discovered that Rice “holds significant investments in more than a dozen Canadian oil companies and banks that would stand to benefit from expansion of the North American tar sands industry and construction of the proposed $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline,” and that “about a third of Rice’s personal net worth is tied up in oil producers, pipeline operators, and related energy industries north of the 49th parallel — including companies with poor environmental and safety records on both U.S. and Canadian soil.”

‘This is who progressives are devoting their energy to defending and the record they are attempting to further empower as Secretary of State. She’s essentially the classic pro-war, imperial technocrat who has advanced within the Foreign Policy Community by embracing and justifying its destructive orthodoxies.’

‘It would be one thing if Rice-advocating progressives defended this record and this set of beliefs, or attempted to argue why she should be promoted despite them. But, almost without exception, they don’t do either of those things. The minute it became clear that Obama wanted to nominate her and Republicans opposed her, they reflexively stood up to support her without any apparent regard for what she has done and what she believes. Put another way, they are devoting their energies to arguing for the political elevation of someone without the slightest regard for her beliefs. Isn’t that bizarre?’

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/11/susan-rice-benghazi-secretary-state

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 08:46:23

Only racists oppose Susan Rice.

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Comment by Spook
2012-12-12 10:06:23

Only racists oppose Susan Rice.
————

A Graham cracker is still a cracker.

Once again the jokes on us.

 
 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:49:59

It’s about worshiping the false idol. The president might “look bad” if he doesn’t get his way. That’s the dominant thinking in DC regardless who the president is.

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Comment by palmetto
2012-12-12 09:16:01

“they are devoting their energies to arguing for the political elevation of someone without the slightest regard for her beliefs. Isn’t that bizarre?”

Uh, the election?

Where’s the prog chorus whine? Come on, folks, lemme hear ya:

“But, Condoleeza… But, Rumsfeld…. But, Cheney….But, Palin…nyah, nyah, nyah.”

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Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:17:15

Even Texans who otherwise have no issues with oil and pipelines are furious at the shenanigans taking place to get that Keystone pipeline done.

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Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 11:52:14

For a blast from the past, substitute the name “Condoleeza” for “Susan”.

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Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 10:10:18

As usual, the liberal/progressive/democrat gets a pass while any conservative/republican would get hammered incessantly.

When it comes to waging organized violence(war), you are 100% correct.

Isn’t it sad, corrupt and pathetic how just a few years ago, the LIEberals were howling about Bush being a warpig and now these same LIEberals are shitting all over themselves to apologize for the current WarMaster and his use of the US Death Machine?

You LIEberals and CONservatives are pathetic hypocrites and liars.

Comment by palmetto
2012-12-12 10:47:16

Testify, brothah!

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Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 10:57:08

Either you’re pro-death or pro-life(and that includes all of it…. war, death penalty, abortion).If BS political affiliations change your position, you’re a hypocrite and a liar.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:32:32

The ONLY people with their panties in a wad are those that don’t seem to know that the wars ARE being wound down… by Obama.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-11/americans-left-iraq-dot-afghanistan-is-winding-down

Do try and keep up , people.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 08:28:59

Memo to Politico: Check out the Firedoglake blog. It’s about as left-liberal as they come. And not an Obama fan club. Likewise, Digby’s Hullabaloo.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 04:34:13

Asia Times Online - Picking up a $170 billion tab:

“During the Cold War, such bases became the foundation for a “forward strategy” meant to surround the Soviet Union and push US military power as close to its borders as possible. These days, despite the absence of a superpower rival, the Pentagon has been intent on dotting the globe with scores of relatively small “lily pad” bases, while continuing to build and maintain some large bases like Dal Molin.

Americans rarely think about these bases, let alone how much of their tax money - and debt - is going to build and maintain them. For Dal Molin and related construction nearby, including a brigade headquarters, two sets of barracks, a natural-gas-powered energy plant, a hospital, two schools, a fitness center, dining facilities, and a mini-mall, taxpayers are likely to shell out at least half a billion dollars. (All the while, a majority of locals passionately and vocally oppose the new base.)

How much does the United States spend each year occupying the planet with its bases and troops? How much does it spend on its global presence? Forced by congress to account for its spending overseas, the Pentagon has put that figure at US$22.1 billion a year. It turns out that even a conservative estimate of the true costs of garrisoning the globe comes to an annual total of about $170 billion. In fact, it may be considerably higher. Since the onset of “the Global War on Terror” in 2001, the total cost for our garrisoning policies, for our presence abroad, has probably reached $1.8 trillion to $2.1 trillion.

By law, the Pentagon must produce an annual “Overseas Cost Summary” (OCS) putting a price on the military’s activities abroad, from bases to embassies and beyond. This means calculating all the costs of military construction, regular facility repairs, and maintenance, plus the costs of maintaining one million US military and Defense Department personnel and their families abroad - the pay checks, housing, schools, vehicles, equipment, and the transportation of personnel and materials overseas and back, and far, far more.

The latest OCS, for the 2012 fiscal year ending September 30th, documented $22.1 billion in spending, although, at congress’s direction, this doesn’t include any of the more than $118 billion spent that year on the wars in Afghanistan and elsewhere around the globe.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NL13Dj01.html

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 06:38:03

Wow - or less than half the cost of bailing out the UAW along with GM…

the Pentagon has put that figure at US$22.1 billion a year.

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 07:54:46

You forget that the bases are a recurring cost. Multiply that times say, 40 years, and it’s 884 billion dollars.

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:09:48

And those bases are the least of our military spending woes.

40 years of wars at $118B per year is $4.7T. The F-35 program alone will cost over $1T.

According to wikipedia, the US military budget is 664.84B. Multiply that times 40 years and that’s $26T dollars. According to wiki that budget does not include VA benefits nor military pensions, nukes and other programs. When those are included the total rises to $1T per year. That’s greater than the GDP of all but 15 countries. You could bail out 25 GMs with that money.

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Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:27:30

You guys can argue all day about where Government is spending too much.

I laugh at you because it no longer matters.

Cut military spending to zero, and it still won’t matter.

The Government has reached the point of no return.

It will continue to spend money it doesn’t earn and doesn’t have until it POPS!

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:33:21

Government “owns” the housing market.

Government will soon “own” the medical industry.

Government controls much of the financial industry (I’m laughing), and is run by it. Washington is the b*tch of NYC. And it enjoys its role.

Government has tentacles stretching into many areas of the auto industry.

Government controls much of the education industry.

Look around you. Do you like what you see?

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 09:56:40

I laugh at you because it no longer matters ??

Never did matter according to Dick Cheney….

 
 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 06:51:09

It’s those bases around the world that help make the US dollar the reserve currency of the world. You’ve got to calculate that into their cost.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 07:21:54

As if it were a benefit to us to supply the world’s reserve currency?

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 07:52:06

It’s how we get away with with aq huge trade deficit paid for with nothing more than our fiats.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 08:01:30

As if it was beneficial to us to continually run trade deficits.

 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:21:33

Asians will have a rude awakening one day. “All we got is this lousy paper for our crappy products.”

 
Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:34:52

As if it was beneficial to us to continually run trade deficits.

It’s bad in that it creates domestic unemployment. But having the reserve currency means that we don’t have to scramble to acquire other currency to pay for stuff.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:35:17

The short term cost of losing our status as a world currency will be high but having to have balanced trade after that will mean that we will create a lot of factory jobs going forward.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:37:58

No.

We “get away with it” because other countries and regions are printing money as fast as we do. Or faster, even.

And that’s the only reason.

 
 
Comment by Northeastener
2012-12-12 07:56:12

It’s the only thing allowing the FED to continue to “QE” 90% of US debt while maintaining the “value” of the dollar.

Without that, I stipulate the US would be no different than Zimbabwe…

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 08:03:51

As if it was good for us to continue to rack up huge debts.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:39:08

Blue Skye, it is not good in the long term but it is in the short term. Since Obama took office he has raised the GDP around 7%, take away the deficits which are running almost 7% of the GDP, we are right back to the GDP we had when he took office but now we have six trillion more in debt. The hole has gotten a lot deeper.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:43:39

People are stupid, Northeasterner.

Whatever “value” our dollar maintains today is due to many a printing press worldwide being turned onto “hogwild” mode.

Eventually, all those printing presses will need to be turned off.

Sidenote for liberals: Imperialism isn’t necessarily limited to military expeditions.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 09:29:30

Good post, dan.

What never seems to be discussed are the viperous effects of a credit-driven bubble/cyclical bear. Market “ownership” of credit shifts.

Now government owns it. It did so by willingly assuming ownership of the credit bubble that destroyed the housing market.

Government willingly bestowed upon itself its own bubble. For that, it will pay.

Only now is this beginning to be understood.

Until we finally get serious and everyone takes a massive hit to the chin, the credit bubble will shift to yet another market after it decimates government.

Eventually, the credit bubble will burn itself out.

I see it as being akin to playing Hot Potato.

Here, ctach!

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 09:44:29

“we are right back to the GDP….”

Yes, an the price of crap I buy has gone up 30 to 100%. Scotch is the same, what’s up with that? Anyway, the GDP number is a sham.

Debt makes you poor.

 
Comment by tj
2012-12-12 12:42:22

Anyway, the GDP number is a sham.

that’s because it only measures consumption, not the strength of the economy.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:36:25

Our economy is 70% consumer driven.

 
Comment by tj
2012-12-12 19:54:26

what’s the other 30%?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 21:58:42

The other 30% is the rest. Mfg, investment, operations, B2B.

That’s why I cannot understand why the PTB are so eager to screw J6P. J6P is the key to it all.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:07:01

As if it were a benefit to us to supply the world’s reserve currency?

It does kind of make you ‘king of the world’. That’s better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:37:24

It would be better if we didn’t have budget and trade deficits, of that there is no doubt.

As for how much longer it can go on, I’m guessing that I’ll be taking a dirt nap before the really big poop hits the fan.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 08:40:34

If on the 21st, we lost our reserve currency status, the world would really end for the banksters.

 
 
 
 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2012-12-12 08:49:26

All your base belongs to….Oh, never mind.

I don’t even think about the dollar figures they throw out for the budgets and overspending for the US and its agencies and defense. I guess it boggles the mind to think that a few hundred billion dollars seems so casually proffered as a rounding error nowadays. Nominally sounds like a huge amount of loot. But what gives that loot value?

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 04:39:54

Globe and Mail - Canada’s housing market: a victim of demographics:

“Demographic trends built up our housing market, and now they’re going to start pulling it apart.

Prepare yourselves, buyers and sellers. The years ahead for housing will look nothing like the last decade.

A report issued by Pacifica Partners Capital Management in B.C., describes the housing market as we know it today as a product of a wave of buying by baby boomers in their peak earning years. Now, as they start entering retirement, boomers aren’t buying houses any more and the younger generation isn’t large enough to pick up the slack.

Anyone still think the housing market’s going to snap back from the weakening trend that has taken hold in the past couple of months? It’s not, so act accordingly. Adjusting our expectations about housing won’t be easy because we’ve seen prices rise dramatically. Canadian Real Estate Association numbers show an average annual price gain of 7.7 per cent over the past 10 years on a national basis.

Aman Bhangu, Pacifica’s vice-president of research, said real estate has performed a lot like stocks did before the twin stock market crashes of the past decade. “At the end of the 1980s and 1990s, you had that mantra of ‘buy and hold, stock markets always go up, just get in there.’ It’s likewise with real estate – ‘real estate always goes up.’

Mr. Bhangu said that taking a fresh look at the fundamentals supporting the real estate sector suggests prices are overvalued today by one-third, while other estimates call for a price decline of 10 to 25 per cent from current levels. Forecasts like these are educated guesses, whereas the demographic impact on housing is rooted in basic numbers.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/mortgages/canadas-housing-market-a-victim-of-demographics/article6185296/

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 06:53:57

“A report issued by Pacifica Partners Capital Management in B.C., describes the housing market as we know it today as a product of a wave of buying by baby boomers in their peak earning years. Now, as they start entering retirement, boomers aren’t buying houses any more and the younger generation isn’t large enough to pick up the slack.”

Canada’s housing market seems to have stolen a page out of the U.S. housing market’s play book!

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 07:25:53

It was(is) a mania. There is no logical explanation.

Houses north of the border costing twice what houses south of the border cost is illogical.

Comment by joesmith
2012-12-12 07:39:04

But.. but… no one could’ve seen it coming!

Comment by MacBeth
2012-12-12 08:47:57

I bet the Canadian government did.

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 09:26:10

Canada is Racist®.

 
 
 
 
Comment by cactus
2012-12-12 09:48:50

A report issued by Pacifica Partners Capital Management in B.C., describes the housing market as we know it today as a product of a wave of buying by baby boomers in their peak earning years. Now, as they start entering retirement, boomers aren’t buying houses any more and the younger generation isn’t large enough to pick up the slack.”

yep

Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 10:06:11

the younger generation isn’t large enough to pick up the slack.” ??

Not just large enough but “flush” enough given where prices went and the job market…

 
 
 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 04:52:08

~The Daily Grind~

Falling Birth Rates Leading To Cratering Housing Demand

http://business.time.com/2012/12/04/birth-rate-plunges-during-recession/

With this much excess empty housing(and growing by the day),let it crater.

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:25:02

Humanoid breeders breeding less humanoids is wonderful news. The problems created by 7 billion humanoids don’t get better by adding 3 billion more of them.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 10:53:36

That is not true. A large percentage of them will be “entitled” to “benefits”, meaning more money from the government.
The government will print more money and give them the “benefits”. This raises GDP to show that the economy is “Growing”.
So, with a growing economy, then everyone is going to be more prosperous.
Therefore, a growing population creates wealth by the very fact they are “entitled” to more money.

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 12:05:55

Food stamps and Obama phones will be 10% of GDP by 2016.

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Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:19:22

Likely Increase in Births Has Some Lawmakers Revisiting Cuts

When state lawmakers passed a two-year budget in 2011 that moved $73 million from family planning services to other programs, the goal was largely political: halt the flow of taxpayer dollars to Planned Parenthood clinics.

Now they are facing the policy implications — and, in some cases, reconsidering.

The latest Health and Human Services Commission projections being circulated among Texas lawmakers indicate that during the 2014-15 biennium, poor women will deliver an estimated 23,760 more babies than they would have, as a result of their reduced access to state-subsidized birth control. The additional cost to taxpayers is expected to be as much as $273 million…

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us/likely-increase-in-births-has-some-lawmakers-revisiting-cuts.html?howisbabbyformed&_r=1&

Comment by MiddleCoaster
2012-12-12 11:50:37

No one could have anticipated this, of course.

 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 12:27:25

“The additional cost to taxpayers is expected to be as much as $273 million…”

And that is before they start school.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 15:09:08

Do they mean access to contraceptives, or access to pre-birth termination?

Comment by polly
2012-12-12 16:21:31

There is no way that the state of Texas was paying for abortions in 2010.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 17:12:45

$73M gets you a lot of condoms.

So, if they’re not free (still cheap at the store but not FREE) the poor folks just go for the pregnancy, like to show the world how unfair things are?

I don’t think so.

 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 20:30:10

What on earth makes you think that the $73 million was for condoms?

Family planning services is going to be gyn appointments for women at which they can get prescriptions for birth control pills or get an IUD put in or whatever. Probably also ob appointments for women who are pregnant, but cuts to that part of the budget are just going to lead to less healthy babies, not fewer babies.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 23:35:31

“also ob appointments for women who are pregnant”

Maybe so, but the quip says birth control, not prenatal care.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 04:53:17

Washington Times - Homeland Security increasingly loaning drones to local police:

“Far from the battlefields of Afghanistan, a Predator drone was summoned into action last year to spy on a North Dakota farmer who allegedly refused to return a half dozen of his neighbor’s cows that had strayed onto his pastures.

The farmer had become engaged in a standoff with the Grand Forks police SWAT team and the sheriff’s department. So the local authorities decided to call on their friends at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to deploy a multimillion dollar, unarmed drone to surveil the farmer and his family.

The little-noticed August 2011 incident at the Lakota, N.D., ranch, which ended peacefully, was a watershed moment for Americans: it was one of the first known times an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) owned by the U.S. government was used against civilians for local police work.

Since then, the Washington Guardian has confirmed, DHS and its Customs and Border Protection agency have deployed drones — originally bought to guard America’s borders — to assist local law enforcement and other federal agencies on several occasions.

The practice is raising questions inside and outside government about whether federal officials may be creating an ad-hoc, loan-a-drone program without formal rules for engagement, privacy protection or taxpayer reimbursements. The drones used by CPB can cost between $15 million and $34 million each to buy, and have hourly operational costs as well.

In addition, DHS recently began distributing $4 million in grants to help local law enforcement buy its own, smaller versions of drones, opening a new market for politically connected drone makers as the wars overseas shrink.

The double-barreled lending and purchasing have some concerned that federal taxpayers may be subsidizing the militarization of local police forces and creating new threats to average Americans’ privacy.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/10/homeland-security-increasingly-loaning-drones-to-l/

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 06:56:04

“The little-noticed August 2011 incident at the Lakota, N.D., ranch, which ended peacefully, was a watershed moment for Americans: it was one of the first known times an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) owned by the U.S. government was used against civilians for local police work.”

Next up:

Increased sales of shoulder-launched missiles to U.S. farmers…

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 07:01:37

“…..federal taxpayers may be subsidizing the militarization of local police forces……”

Don’t make me laugh. That ship sailed a long time ago.

At lease with UAVs, the temptation to turn the helicopter unit into the PD’s Flying Club is greatly reduced.

And compared to the hoons flying the PD helicopters, the cost of crashing UAVs is a lot less.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 07:08:48

I’m more worried about the militarization of the civilians around here.

Hottest thing around is this AR-15 looking thing that shoots .22LR.
Call it a “Starter SturmGewehr”

Comment by Lip
2012-12-12 07:29:33

You fear the civilians more than the government?

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:30:08

Well, there are a lot of mentally unstable civilians out there. I’m not sure I’d feel safer if they were all armed with military grade weapons.

 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:37:02

Well, there are a lot of mentally unstable civilians out there. I’m not sure I’d feel safer if they were all armed with military grade weapons.

That’s the fundamental problem with these “survivalists”. Honestly do you want to live in a world populated and dominted by these kooks?

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 08:52:09

“You fear the civilians more than the government?”

Damn straight.

Cops and most government guys who carry guns all go thru some kind of screening and mental evaluation.

Civilians? The saying “Anyone who can fog a mirror……” comes to mind.

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 10:18:02

Damn straight ??

I agree Kinda….I would I fear them “as much” as government…We saw it yesterday outside of Portland…22 year old with a AK….These assault weapons have no place in the private sector…Eliminate all of them…Turn them in or face 20 years in prison…Turn somebody in that has one illegally and get $10,000….That should flush out most of them out of the south…Sell one or buy one illegally…20 years in prison…We can stop the Columbine’s if we want to or at least limit the destruction of innocent lives and the families of them…

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-12-12 11:04:26

Here we go again. Define “assault weapon”.

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 11:46:02

Here we go again. Define “assault weapon” ??

Any long rifle, with semi automatic fire with a magazine capable beyond 6 rounds….There….

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-12-12 13:38:19

Fair enough, although “long rifle” is a bit ambiguous. It is at least an honest definition. Good luck passing/enforcing that law, though You’ll have millions of them turned in lead-first.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 13:47:19

You do NOT want to be reloading your six shot magazine when the zombie horde is shambling up the hill towards you.

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 15:50:54

zombie horde ??

Are we talking the government or private people here ??

If its the government and you actually feel safe because you have a AK then you are just a fool….I seen the swatt’s in action around here…Private people with AK’s are probably pretty good at defense since all they have ever done is practice with it…SWATT’s are good at offense and they have numbers…Like I said, just a fool would feel safe from the government because he has a assault gun…

If, its private people that you speak of, then you may have a point…Need an assault gun to protect myself from the other idiot that has an assault gun…

So if we eliominate the assault gun, then the two idiots can just duke it out with their Glock’s…Someone still dead…Nothing’s changed here except we don’t have Columbine anymore at least not to that degree…

Good luck passing/enforcing that law ??

Enforcement would be easy…Make the possession “punitive”…REAL PUNITIVE….Incentivize people to anonymously turn people in…..We would get 99% out of circulation…

Passing….Well, thats a whole other problem….Start with the cities…Then move to the counties and then the state… Tennessee or Louisiana wants to have them then go for it but if you have one and your in California you go to jail for 30 years…That should be punitive enough….

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-12-12 16:25:03

Enforcement would be easy…Make the possession “punitive”…REAL PUNITIVE….Incentivize people to anonymously turn people in…..We would get 99% out of circulation…

It sounds like you’re assuming that it wouldn’t start a civil war. That you could simply vote to take away the 2nd amendment and that all but a few would simply comply. If you can divide and conquer and deal with one at a time then you are right. But I predict you would start an avalanche that would result in not just dealing with one at a time. I think to make it work your way you will have to nibble dishonestly at the edges rather than take a bite that big.

Passing….Well, thats a whole other problem….Start with the cities…Then move to the counties and then the state… Tennessee or Louisiana wants to have them then go for it but if you have one and your in California you go to jail for 30 years…That should be punitive enough….

If California wants to ban them that’s California’s problem and they can deal with the court cases while others continue to exercise their rights and attract refugees from California. But it sounded like you wanted a national law to me.

I think risk of a real civil war is higher than you think. You’re dealing with people who see that gun as the last thing between themselves and a re-education camp.

 
 
Comment by Northeastener
2012-12-12 08:09:19

Hottest thing around is this AR-15 looking thing that shoots .22LR.
Call it a “Starter SturmGewehr”

All about economics. An AR-15 chambered in 5.56mm starts at $650 for a stripped-down version and runs well over a $1100 for a tricked out version. 5.56 ammunition averages about $.40/round. That adds up over time.

The S&W M&P15-22, an AR platform that shoots .22LR, costs $450 and ammo runs $.05/round. Allows for more shooting per dollar spent than with an AR-15 and 5.56.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 09:10:18

Yeah, and let me know how that .22LR works against the “takers/zombies” when the SHTF.

If the “zombies” get within .22LR (or 5.56 range for that matter), you’ve already lost.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-12-12 09:24:24

If the “zombies” get within .22LR (or 5.56 range for that matter), you’ve already lost.

Good point. The best course of action is probably to be so far away from the zombies that the gun is just for taking a deer once in a while. But in the meantime you can’t find jobs that far away from the future zombies.

 
Comment by Northeastener
2012-12-12 09:37:16

My 10/22 is for two things: 1. Inexpensive practice and training. Shooting is a perishable skill. It takes constant practice and refinement. A 10/22 is also easier for my kids to shoot and allows us to do rifle shooting at our indoor range as well. 2. Squirrel hunting and other small game in an SHTF/long-term disruption of the food supply scenario.

An 5.56 AR has an effective range to 500m. With the holographic and magnifier combination I have on it, it is good for anything from 10m to 400+, plenty of distance in just about any scenario I can think of. My .308 bolt action with 9x scope is effective out to 800m+. Sniping at that range will discourage even the most die-hard of “zombies”. As an alternative to the AR at close to moderate distance, my AK with red dot and magnifier works just great and is quite intimidating in both sound and looks.

Anything at 10m and under, my S&W M&P40 works just fine. I’ll be picking up a Walther PPK .38 as a backup soon. If it works for Bond and MI6…

 
Comment by East-West
2012-12-12 13:57:52

I see the HBB has a crew ready to defend Bunker Hill/the Alamo/Ft Sumter/the Philippines.

Good.

 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:17:09

See also “the Miami Model”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_model

After the “Battle of Seattle” in 1999 and the anti-globalization protests in Genoa, Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_G8_summit) and elsewhere, the USA pigs embraced the Miami Model of militarized policing to quash dissent of globalization and the USA war machine. Note also the bi-partisan embrace of “free speech zones” over the past decade ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone).

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:45:26

“…..federal taxpayers may be subsidizing the militarization of local police forces……”

As Fixer said, “Don’t make me laugh. That ship sailed a long time ago.”

Decades ago, in fact.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 05:28:08

Counterpunch - An Interview With Noam Chomsky on Obama’s Human Rights Record:

“Obama’s policies have been approximately the same as Bush’s, though there have been some slight differences, but that’s not a great surprise. The Democrats supported Bush’s policies. There were some objections on mostly partisan grounds, but for the most part, they supported his policies and it’s not surprising that they have continued to do so. In some respects Obama has gone even beyond Bush. The NDAA, which you mentioned, was not initiated by Obama, (when it passed Congress, he said he didn’t approve of it and wouldn’t implement it) but he nevertheless did sign it into law and did not veto it. It was pushed through by hawks, including Joe Lieberman and others. In fact, there hasn’t been that much of a change. The worst part of the NDAA is that it codified – or put into law – what had already been a regular practice. The practices hadn’t been significantly different. The one part that received public attention is what you mentioned, the part that permits the indefinite detention of American citizens, but why permit the indefinite detention of anybody? It’s a gross violation of fundamental human rights and civil law, going all the way back to the Magna Carta in the 13th Century, so it’s a very severe attack on elementary civil rights, both under Bush and under Obama. It’s bipartisan!

As for the killings, Obama has sharply increased the global assassination campaign. While it was initiated by Bush, it has expanded under Obama and it has included American citizens, again with bipartisan support and very little criticism other than some minor criticism because it was an American. But then again, why should you have the right to assassinate anybody? For example, suppose Iran was assassinating members of Congress who were calling for an attack on Iran. Would we think that’s fine? That would be much more justified, but of course we’d see that as an act of war. The real question is, why assassinate anyone? The government has made it very clear that the assassinations are personally approved by Obama and the criteria for assassination are very weak. If a group of men are seen somewhere by a drone who are, say, loading something into a truck, and there is some suspicion that maybe they are militants, then it’s fine to kill them and they are regarded as guilty unless, subsequently, they are shown to be innocent. That’s the wording that the United States used and it is such a gross violation of fundamental human rights that you can hardly talk about it.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/12/an-interview-with-noam-chomsky-on-obamas-human-rights-record/

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 06:40:21

When did Bush with his Nobel Peace Prize again?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:03:06

I heard that O is getting the nobel prize in Economics this year.

 
Comment by Montana
2012-12-12 07:36:24

lolz, whatever you were trying to say.

 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 11:00:34

Well, you’ve got to give the man some credit for not trying to completely deny the facts, but, as usual, he tries to pawn off most of o’S behavior on Bush…….It’s just an extension of Bush’s policies.

I thought O was the anti -Bush. Vote for Hope and Change. Yea.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 05:50:32

Hey blue staters and urbanites! Are you ready for the new All-American Apartheid? In which us red staters and rural voters will govern, while you guys obey? It’s coming soon, as part of the GOP’s much-predicted (by me at least) enhanced voter suppression strategy!

Choose Your Own Voters
The GOP is already plotting how to marginalize urban voters in the next election.

By David Weigel
Slate

“In the busy mind of Virginia state Sen. Charles Carrico, voters can be divided into two species. The first: “people in my district,” which covers a swath of the state’s rural southwest. These voters are real people. The second species: voters in “metropolitan districts.” In 2012 and 2008, rural voters watched Democrats turn out that metro vote, which elected Barack Obama. That experience apparently taught Carrico and the people he represents that “their votes don’t mean anything.”

“Carrico’s solution: Make the rural vote matter more and make the metro vote count less. His bill, SB273, would assign 11 of Virginia’s electoral votes to its 11 congressional districts. The state’s two remaining votes would go to whoever received the “highest number of votes in a majority of congressional districts.”

“Four of those 11 districts contain huge clusters of Democrats, and voted for Obama. The next seven districts, largely rural, voted for Mitt Romney. Had the Carrico proposal gone into effect this year, Romney would have lost Virginia’s popular vote by 4 points and carried nine of its 13 electors. The metro denizen’s vote would have still meant something, sure. It would have meant less than the vote of the angry coal miner in Appalachia.

Ah, the electoral college. The gift to the rural slaveholders that keeps giving- to essentially the exact same people.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/12/how_the_republican_party_is_planning_to_marginalize_urban_voters_in_the.html

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 07:19:29

In sections of Philadelphia - more people voted than were registered.

In some districts there was not ONE vote for the Republican candidate.

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:39:12

Election Venezuela style.

Did you guy see the Chavez’s successor? Saddam is alive and kickin’ it in Caracas.

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 11:13:09

If you go get a map of congressional districts, they are the most gerrymandered designs the Democrats could have ever devised and promoted to increase “minority” districts.
This was stealing of the popular vote from the White population to its own detriment.
I live in a “black” district that extends from the lower portion of Hillsborough county in Tampa, across the Bay to the tip of St. Petersburg, to include large portions of Black voters.
This “district” should NEVER have been allowed.
WE consistently get Black representatives because, well, they are “racist”.
The entire districting should be REMOVED and replaced with contiguous geographical areas.
That would decrease “minority” representation, so it is opposed.
To be “fair”, they should have higher representation than their actual numbers.
The districts are a sham.

 
 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:20:16

Wow. Idiots will always come up with more idiotic plans.

That being said I don’t mind winner of the congressional district getting the electoral vote as opposed to winner take all system. I like the ones in Nebraska and Maine.

 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:21:57

The aging, white, male teabaggers are just as Racist® as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and Eric Holder. Unfortunately for them, demographics are not on their side…

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 07:32:12

There is a book “How the Irish Became White”

Think about it. Irish were blatantly discriminated against (more so than ANY immigrant in the last 100 years) and yet today they are white.

It will happen to most other groups that come here. In fact, it has happened already.

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:17:44

What are you talking about? Mohammed Ali is still not white.

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:27:22

Neither is “Hay-soos” the dish washer .

 
Comment by sfhomowner
2012-12-12 14:21:07

100 years ago: Rocco, the Italian immigrant, wasn’t considered white, either.

Today: Italian-Americans have assimilated and are “white”.

 
Comment by Bronco
2012-12-12 19:30:42

OJ was white. (Before the troubles…)

 
 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:31:08

Yeah, about that Irish discrimination.

I read a study of NY Times employment ads and there was only a two ads with the infamous “Irish need not apply”.

Where as there were plenty of ads specifying discrimination against other minority groups.

Basically, it was all just a myth.

http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm

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Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 13:01:43

Yeah, you are correct - the dead irish building canals across America didn’t complain very much. And they could not even vote back then!

If only they had obamaphones and SNAP cards back in the day…

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The New Basin Canal, also known as the New Orleans Canal and the New Canal, was a shipping canal in New Orleans, Louisiana from the 1830s through the 1940s.
Small pleasure boats now moor on the only remaining portion of the canal that was important to regional commerce in the 19th century

The New Basin Canal was constructed by the New Orleans Canal and Banking Company, incorporated in 1831 with a capital of 4 million United States dollars. The intent was to build a shipping canal from Lake Pontchartrain through the swamp land to the booming Uptown or “American” section of the city, to compete with the existing Carondelet Canal in the Downtown Creole part of the city. Work commenced the following year. Yellow fever ravaged workers in the swamp in back of the town, and the loss of slaves was judged too expensive, so most of the work was done by Irish immigrant laborers. The Irish workers died in great numbers, but the Company had no trouble finding more workers to take their place, as shiploads of poor Irishmen arrived in New Orleans, and many were willing to risk their lives in hazardous backbreaking work for a chance to earn $1 a day.

No official count was kept of the deaths of the immigrant workers; estimates ranging from 4,000 to 30,000 have been published, with most historical best guesses falling in the 8,000 to 20,000 dead range. Many were buried with no marking in the levee and roadway fill beside the canal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Basin_Canal

 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 14:17:50

How are workers dieing equivalent to discrimation??

If they were not hired, then it WOULD be discrimination.

Or, maybe you don’t know what the word means?

 
Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 14:27:31

These were the ONLY jobs they could get.

The ones that killed 20,000 of them in ONE canal project.

In jobs that even SLAVES were not allowed to perform because these jobs were too dangerous.

ALL other jobs were off limits to Irish. ALL OTHER JOBS.

And today the Irish are white.

I know logic and critical thinking is not taught in public schools anymore. It might impact your self esteem.

 
 
 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:03:45

You are missing the point. As the minorities grow and vote their own races, whites will do the same. White republican party’s future is bright for another 50 yrs or so.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 11:20:47

White women will not. They are too stupid to see their own demise. The Left has made them “minorities”, so then can claim government sponsored goodies. That is why they vote Democrat. That is why we are doomed if we don’t get rid of “minority” benefit programs.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:11:47

Unfortunately for them, demographics are not on their side…

If you read the link, you’d see they have a plan to get around that. It’s called gerrymandering. White rural types will get more powerful votes than tanned urban types.

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 11:43:44

Maybe for another few election cycles, but in the long-term Whitey is going down.

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Comment by joesmith
2012-12-12 07:43:29

Rather than consider that most Romney voters were older white people and trying to figure out what younger voters want, just change the way the election works?

Yeah, that’s about what I would’ve expected.

If the GOP wants to win Presidential votes outside of the former Confederacy, they’ll need more realistic stances on immigration, legalization of marajuana, women’s rights, etc.

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 07:52:04

Nah. All they need is get more white voters to the polling stations. As Dems will up their pandering to the minorities with the successes from last 2 elactions, more and more whites will vote republicans. 60% in this election, look for that percentage to go higher and higher.

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 08:04:17

This country is long overdue for a race war :)

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Comment by aNYCdj
2012-12-12 09:33:35

i agree Goon…I think Obewanna wants to make Charlie happy before he dies….

Charles Manson
Charles Milles Manson is an American criminal and musician who led what became known as the Manson Family, a quasi-commune that arose in California in the late 1960s. Wikipedia
Born: November 12, 1934 (age 78), Cincinnati

 
Comment by Young Deezy
2012-12-12 09:49:38

You know, you joke about this but some of the things I’ve heard from friends-of-friends, co-workers and occasionally random people on the street make me seriously worry that something like this is in the offing.

I live in urban California in one of the most diverse locales in the country, I’d wager, and many of the different groups that live here coexist uneasily at best. In the absence of the rule of law, I could easily see this place going all post-Soviet Yugoslavia really, really quickly. =(

 
Comment by Spook
2012-12-12 10:15:04

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 08:04:17
This country is long overdue for a race war
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What are you talking about?

White supremacy IS race war.

 
Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 10:27:11

I could easily see this place going all post-Soviet Yugoslavia really, really quickly ??

And what zip code would that be ??

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 10:33:11

In some parts of LA, there is already a race war between hispanic and black gangs and people that just happen to be the wrong race in the wrong area.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 10:51:24

The Southern Poverty Law Center has even documented much of it.

 
Comment by tj
2012-12-12 11:46:09

White supremacy IS race war.

so is the black supremacy that some blacks advocate.

 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 11:46:56

The Southern Poverty Law Center are the biggest bunch of Racists® to occupy a single building since Hitler’s rallies in Nuremburg. The SPLC have become what they allegedly despise.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:17:56

All they need to do is gerrymander districts on the state level, and use the unfair districting to win the electoral college.

It doesn’t matter that there’s fewer old white guys, it matters that they control the most electoral districts.

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Comment by MiddleCoaster
2012-12-12 08:57:08

Judging by some of the recent comments on FB from my high school classmates, there is a whole new generation of angry old white guys, and their sons are following in dad’s footsteps.

So glad I got out of Michigan.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2012-12-12 09:18:09

Maybe out in the sticks. Out here in the little towns in BFE, people can go weeks without actually interacting with black people.

And the only Hispanics they know are their hired hands, and the employees at the meat packing plant.

In urban areas and suburbia, many of the white kids are figuring out that, as far as the oligarchs are concerned, they have more in common with the people of color.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2012-12-12 09:25:27

Judging by some of the recent comments on FB from my high school classmates, there is a whole new generation of angry old white guys, and their sons are following in dad’s footsteps.

Yeah, but demographically they’re not a big group.

 
Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 09:26:54

and their sons are following in dad’s footsteps.

So will their daughters.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 08:32:09

Because marginalizing urban voters worked so well in the 2012 elections, the Republicans are going to try it again? Have they checked the election results? They weren’t exactly favorable, now were they?

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 08:55:07

You guys are missing the point, there is a move to end the winner-take-all system of state electoral votes ( bad enough in itself), and replace it with a by-congressional-district system, where winning a district gets you that district’s electoral vote.

It sounds more democratic on the face of it, but given the gerrymandering that has been done in the last decades, there is a way disproportionate distribution of voters in congressional districts- all the dems/minorities are clustered in a few urban districts, while the older white (GOP) vote is spread out in multiple rural districts.

The story showed that had we had this system in place in the last election, Obama would have won the Virginia state vote, but only received 4 of the state’s 13 electoral votes.

GOP demographic problem solved! Old white guys’ votes count more!

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 18:47:01

Same old gerrymandering.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 20:03:49

Same old gerrymandering.

Had it been in effect in the last election, Romney would have won.

They’re intent on it being in effect in the next election.

 
 
 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 06:08:02

Christmas Traditions

Caroling
Greeting Cards
Christmas shopping
Eggnog
Christmas Tree
Christmas lights
Cookies for Santa

And let’s not forget…

Holiday tradition continues with foreclosure freeze

by Kim Miller

Federal mortgage backers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac announced this morning they won’t evict families from foreclosed homes during the holidays.

For Fannie Mae, the suspension on evicting homeowners in foreclosed homes will be from Dec. 19 through Jan. 2. Freddie Mac’s suspension dates are from Dec. 17 through Jan. 2.

The eviction and lockout suspensions have become a tradition for the two government-sponsored entities since the real estate bust left hundreds of thousands of homeowners in dire straits and facing the loss of a home during the holidays.

“We’re taking this step in support of families who have faced financial challenges and gone through a foreclosure,” said Terry Edwards, executive vice president of credit portfolio management at Fannie Mae. “The holidays are a chance to be with loved ones and we want to relieve some stress at this time of year.”

The suspensions are not affecting other foreclosure-related activities. Firms handling local evictions will continue to file documentation in preparation for evictions scheduled after Jan. 2.

This entry was posted on Monday, December 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am and is filed under Foreclosures, Housing boom, Mortgage fraud, Mortgages.

2 Responses to “Holiday tradition continues with foreclosure freeze”

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Scrooge Says:
December 3rd, 2012 at 11:48 am

Dear homeowner: Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! … Now get out!

Love Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac

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Average Joe Says:
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 pm

“We’re taking this step in support of families who have faced financial challenges and gone through a foreclosure,” said Terry Edwards- LIAR; All Banks are holding on to their assets to limit supply and falsely (and unethically) drive up prices, building an unjustified consumer confidence.What happens when they flood the market with the 9 year supply of shadow inventory of foreclosures in the state? Not to mention the new construction thats coming back. Just sinking thier claws deeper into a new market of sheeple.! Wake up people!

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 06:10:12

First-Time Home Buyers Missing Out on Housing Recovery
US News and World Report
David Francis

As the housing market continues to show improved signs of strength, many first-time home buyers are failing to benefit from the broader recovery.

The Campbell/Inside Mortgage Finance HousingPulse Tracking Survey, released last week, found that first-time home buyers were purchasing only 34.7 percent of the homes sold in October. That’s down from 37.1 percent in September, and is the lowest percentage ever recorded by the survey.

This decline surfaces as purchases of non-distressed homes–houses that are not in foreclosure–have increased dramatically in 2012. The report shows that the vast majority of the homes being sold are regular purchases–accounting for 64.7 percent of all houses sold in October, up from 55.7 percent in February. The increase is a sign of strength in the housing market, as fewer people are buying homes in foreclosure.

But according to the survey, first-time buyers are the only group that has not purchased more non-distressed properties in the last five months. Meanwhile, current homeowners are picking up an increasing number of properties, purchasing 54.4 percent of all homes in October, up from 50 percent in June.

The basic problem is that about half of owner-occupant homebuyers rely on low down payment loans. FHA is now under significant financial pressure,” Popik says. “They’ve tightened their underwriting, and weeded out a lot the lenders that have poor lending practices.” He adds that, in the process, FHA has restrained access for first-time buyers who can’t make the traditional 20 percent down payment.

Changing attitudes toward housing. Simons says first-time buyers might be avoiding the housing market because of the hangover from the housing crisis. He says they are turned off by the unpredictability of the investment. “People are disillusioned. They don’t see appreciation like they once did,” he says. “There’s a false hope of growing wealth in a house. People are being more selective about where they buy.”

Simons also believes the culture of foreclosure that persisted throughout the crisis has negatively influenced attitudes toward the housing market. “People who went through it themselves, or know people who went through it, are definitely turned off. People who defaulted will not buy quickly,” he says.

http://homes.yahoo.com/news/first-time-home-buyers-missing-housing-recovery-162948646.html

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 06:18:18

That’s right folks! Hurry in now! Don’t miss out on your losses from which you’ll never recover!

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 07:00:17

It’s too late: With no jobs or employment prospects, a crushing student loan debt burden, and a highly successful effort to encourage hedge funds and foreign investors to rapidly reflate U.S. residential housing prices back towards Bubble-Era levels, first time buyers are already priced out forever.

Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 07:30:40

Here’s your “pent-up demand” for household formation:

http://www.policymic.com/mobile/articles/20330/millennial-unemployment-rate-is-11-but-nobody-in-dc-really-seems-to-care

And the NAR-scum can’t stop pimping the LIE.

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Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 06:33:59

Fed Exit Plan May Be Redrawn as Assets Near $3 Trillion

By Craig Torres & Josh Zumbrun -
Dec 7, 2012 10:37 AM ET .

A decision by the Federal Reserve to expand its bond buying next week is likely to prompt policy makers to rewrite their 18-month-old blueprint for an exit from record monetary stimulus.

Under the exit strategy, the Fed would start selling bonds in mid-2015 in a bid to return its holdings to pre-crisis proportions in two to three years. An accelerated buildup of assets would also mean a faster pace of sales when the time comes to exit — increasing the risk that a jump in interest rates would crush the economic recovery.

“There is certainly an issue about unwinding the balance sheet” in a way that “is effective and continues to support the recovery without creating inflation,” St. Louis Fed Bank President James Bullard said in an interview in October. The central bank might have to “revisit” the 2011 strategy, he added.

The Fed is already buying $40 billion a month in mortgage- backed securities to boost the economy, and policy makers meeting Dec. 11-12 will consider whether to purchase more assets. John Williams, president of the San Francisco Fed, has proposed adding $45 billion of Treasury securities a month.

The bigger the balance sheet, “the riskier the exit becomes,”
Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker said during a Nov. 20 speech in New York. “That is something we need to think carefully about.”

Krishna Memani, director of fixed income at OppenheimerFunds Inc., said a too-rapid sale of assets risks disrupting the $5.2 trillion market for agency mortgage debt.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-07/fed-exit-plan-may-be-redrawn-as-assets-near-3-trillion.html - 158k -

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 06:42:32

Remember when liberals were screaming at the $250 billion yearly deficits under Bush?

Now the FED ALONE is buying half a trillion dollars of crap a year - yet not a peep.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 07:03:54

Ben Bernanke is a Republican.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 07:24:02

I didn’t realize Ben Bernanke was a dictator who could do whatever he wanted…

What leadership we have in the White House.

What leadership to re-appoint Ben Bernanke

There was a candidate for president who said he would get rid of Ben Bernanke. But he lost.

Forward…

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Comment by Neuromance
2012-12-12 12:26:09

Limbaugh today was talking about how the Republican brand is the “Party of Tax Cuts”. However, I was impressed as he furiously avoided the elephant in the room. Namely, the fact that Republicans love to deficit spend as much as the libbiest lib who ever libbed.

Limbaugh’s good, but he’s not that good.

 
 
Comment by Lip
2012-12-12 07:34:49

Who is he working for? Obama.

2banana’s point is right on. During the Bush years we heard all this moaning and groaning about the deficit. Now nothing.

At some point it’s going to have to end and it will end badly.

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Comment by scdave
2012-12-12 10:36:36

At some point it’s going to have to end and it will end badly ??

Didn’t you get the memo ?? It did end badly…September 2008..

 
 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 07:48:26

“Ben Bernanke is a Republican.”

Obama selects Bernanke for second Fed term

8/25/2009 10:49:58 AM ET

OAK BLUFFS, Mass. — President Barack Obama announced Tuesday he wants to keep Ben Bernanke on as Fed chairman, saying he shepherded America through the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

“Ben approached a financial system on the verge of collapse with calm and wisdom; with bold action and out-of-the-box thinking that has helped put the brakes on our economic freefall,” said Obama, with Bernanke standing by his side. “Almost none of the decisions he or any of us made have been easy.”

Obama made the announcement while on vacation on the island of Martha’s Vineyard off the coast of Massachusetts after aides said initially that the president intended a news-free week there. Both he and Bernanke sported the open-collar look.

The White House said Obama decided on the last-minute schedule addition to help “put him more in `vacation mode.” “There’s been a lot of speculation out there, and the president wanted to put it to rest,” Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton told reporters as the presidential entourage headed from the site of the announcement to a golf course.

Bernanke’s early tenure was as complicated as the crisis facing the banks he sought to save.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32545908/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/obama-selects-bernanke-second-fed-term/ - 86k -

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Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 07:51:50

Ben Bernanke belongs to the bipartisan crime syndicate.

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 08:30:51

Ben Bernanke is Racist®.

 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 09:45:24

“Ben Bernanke is a Republican.”

So obviously….

“Ben Bernanke is Racist®.”

Oh, he hates women too.

and starving children, he doesn`t care about them either.

and he doesn`t want anyone to have an abortion, like ever. Even if someone was raped by a drug addicted convicted murderer devil worshipping alien who was out on parole for 2 days. No, one day.

and he thinks Law School students should have to pay like $30,000 for birth control. No, like $90,000

Really and most accurately….

“Ben Bernanke belongs to the bipartisan crime syndicate.”

 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 07:02:54

Why can’t the Fed simply keep the $3t (or whatever they tell the world it is) in assets buried on their balance sheet forever?

What would be the advantage to them of ‘exiting’?

I find this ongoing speculation about the Fed’s need to someday ‘exit’ utterly baffling.

Comment by Neuromance
2012-12-12 07:44:47

“OCCASIONALLY, I’m asked why I think the Fed can do more to support the economy (indeed, can for the most part engineer a complete recovery without much assistance from fiscal authorities) while its policy rate is effectively zero and long-term rates are close to all-time record lows. Doesn’t additional easing amount to little more than pushing on a string?

It does not, in my view. The reason is that, in my opinion, a determined central bank cannot fail to raise inflation expectations. The Fed has the ability to create as much money as it wants and can use that money to purchase every scrap of federal-government debt, every scrap of outstanding mortgage-backed securities backed by federal housing agencies, and as much foreign exchange as other governments will sell it. It strains credulity to think that the Fed could use its printing press to entirely fund the government and most of the mortgage market and to devalue the dollar with reckless abandon without having an impact on inflation expectations. In practice, it seems to take nothing like that to move expectations; a bit of tweaked language or a few hundred billion in QE purchases are enough to do the trick.

One could mount a different argument: that price increases are driven by spending among the rich, such that growth occurs but at the expense of real welfare losses for most workers. I’d argue, first, that distributional issues are best addressed by fiscal authorities [ed note: HA!] and that, second, in practice, it seems to be contractionary monetary policy that exacerbates inequality rather than expansionary policy.

In other words, tough noogies. But remember - the last time half of the Senate was voted out was during a period of high inflation. So, inflate at your own risk, boys. It doesn’t matter that food, clothing, shelter, medical, education, energy are ever lurching higher as long as iPads remain price-stable.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2012/07/monetary-policy

 
Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:23:43

I find this ongoing speculation about the Fed’s need to someday ‘exit’ utterly baffling.

Exactly. As long as they can conjure money out of thin air and the rest of the world accepts it as payment, what’s the problem?

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 09:09:34

When the inflation begins in earnest they will need to show the world that they are getting a handle on it and cutting back on their holdings will be part of it. Since they cannot raise interest rates without killing the national budget, they will start there. However, most of this talk about cutting back is just to keep our reserve status and not have other central banks put there money in gold instead of dollars.

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Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 09:31:17

But as long as our “trading partners” supply our needs in exchange for our fiats, there won’t be significant inflation.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 09:49:32

I cannot see them supplying our needs for the same price. China’s wages are going up, do you not think they will raise the price of what they are sending over here? Do you not think that OPEC will continue to supply oil for the same price when we want twice as much for our corn and wheat?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 10:32:10

Then they’ll move production to the next cesspool, perhaps one closer to home to save on transportation costs.

As for OPEC, we are projected to become not only an exporter, but one of the major oil exporters within a decade or two.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 07:07:43

December 11, 2012
Bernanke’s (Latest) Big Mistake
Crashing the Bond Market
by MIKE WHITNEY

Ben Bernanke has made a serious mistake and the country is going to pay dearly for it.

Since 2009, the Fed Chairman has launched 3 rounds of his bond buying program called quantitative easing or QE. He also initiated a similar program called Operation Twist in which the Fed changes the duration of its portfolio by selling short-term US Treasuries and buying longer-term ones. Like QE, Operation Twist is designed to reduce borrowing costs for businesses and consumers by pushing down long-term interest rates. All told, the Fed’s various unconventional easing programs have more than doubled the Fed’s balance sheet (now approaching $3 trillion) while tripling the amount of liquidity (base money) in the financial system. At present, those excess reserves pose no danger to overall price stability, but if the economy rebounds–as it eventually will–then the Fed will either have to mop up the extra liquidity quickly or face an inflationary tsunami unlike anything the country has experienced in its 230 year history.

Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 11:29:10

Posted: 12:48 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 12, 2012

Fed to spend $45B to sustain bond purchases

By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON —
The Federal Reserve will spend $45 billion a month to sustain an aggressive drive to keep long-term interest rates low. And it set a goal of keeping a key short-term rate near zero until unemployment drops below 6.5 percent.

The policies are intended to help an economy that the Fed says is growing only modestly with 7.7 percent unemployment in November.

Stocks rose modestly after the Fed’s statement was released Wednesday at the conclusion of its final meeting of the year.

In the statement, the Fed said it will direct the money into long-term Treasurys to replace an expiring bond-purchase program. The new purchases will expand its investment portfolio, which has reached nearly $3 trillion.

The central bank will continue buying $40 billion a month in mortgage bonds. All told, its monthly bond purchases will remain $85 billion. They are intended to reduce already record-low long-term rates to encourage borrowing and accelerate growth.

The Fed said it will continue the bond purchases until the job market improves substantially. It said that it can pursue the aggressive stimulus programs because inflation remains below its target.

The Fed also kept its target for its benchmark short-term interest rate at a record low near zero, where it has been for the last four years. The Fed said Wednesday that it would link any future rate change to lower unemployment, as long as inflation is expected to stay below 2.5 percent.

Before Wednesday, the Fed had said it planned would keep the rate low until at least mid-2015.

The statement was approved on an 11-1 vote. Jeffrey Lacker, president of Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, objected for the eighth time this year.

 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 11:49:55

A Counterpunch link? That’s commie.

 
 
 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 06:55:41

Florida Realtors discuss 2013 housing market with national economists

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Florida Realtors discuss 2013 housing market with national economists

Posted: 8:00 a.m. Wednesday, Dec. 12, 2012
By Kimberly Miller

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

The forecast for Florida’s housing future will be discussed today in Orlando during an economic conference hosted by the Florida Realtors.

Leading housing experts, including Fannie Mae Senior Vice President Doug Duncan and Leslie Appleton-Young, vice president and chief economist for the California Association of Realtors, will speak at the event.

With the inventory of homes statewide dwindling, prices have started to rise, according to recent measures.

But a report from the foreclosure-tracking company RealtyTrac, which will be released Thursday, may dampen the 2013 housing forecast. Florida has taken the top spot nationally the last two months for foreclosure activity and a slowdown isn’t expected.

Today’s conference begins at 8:30 a.m.

“Florida Realtors is bringing together expert economic forecasters to discuss what they see happening in Florida and nationally in 2013,” said Florida Realtors Chief Economist John Tuccillo. “Realtors who watch this economic conference will gain insight into how the markets likely will develop next year, from the overarching economic environment to the financing climate to conditions in Florida’s local markets.”

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2012-12-12 07:05:44

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Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 10:03:27

Wow….. Lester Appleton is going to be there. You don’t get anymore corrupt than Lester.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 07:11:16

Buyer beware of bear traps!

China Shares End up Tracking Regional Markets’ Gains; Banks Lead

SHANGHAI–China’s shares tracked gains in regional markets Wednesday, with banks leading the way thanks to bargain hunting.

The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index, which tracks both A and B shares, ended up 0.4%, or 8.03 points, at 2082.7. The Shenzhen Composite Index closed flat at 793.29.

Analysts said they expect the Shanghai index to face immediate resistance at 2100 after recent gains. The benchmark index has risen 6.3% in the past seven sessions.

“[The index] broke above the 60-day moving average of 2062 on Monday, a positive sign that further gains could be on the way,” said Zhang Yanbin, an analyst with Zheshang Securities.

Shenyin Wanguo Securities analyst Li Xiaoxuan said “the market is reacting to expectations of supportive policies from Beijing after the annual Central Economic Work Conference,” which will take place some time this week.

However, it isn’t clear yet whether those expectations will be met, she added.

“A short-term moderate rebound in the economy will help stabilize market sentiment but won’t be enough to justify a rally in the market”, Ms. Li said.

Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 07:19:08

Shanghai’s disturbing stock slump
Craig Stephen’s This Week in China
Commentary: A-shares’ valuation may offer reality check
December 02, 2012|Craig Stephen

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — The fall of Shanghai’s main share-market index below 2,000 points last week has put the frailty of China’s domestic stock markets back in the spotlight.

Clearly having the world’s second-largest economy counts for little when equity-market returns are added up. Once again, China’s stock markets look to be in the running for the title of the year’s worst-performing equity market — along with Slovakia and Spain.

The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index ended last week near four-year lows, having lost a total of 67% since its October 2007 record high.

 
Comment by azdude
2012-12-12 07:23:54

just buy a house and all your problems will go away.

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2012-12-12 09:06:27

‘just buy a house and all your problems will go away.’

That’s a statement that has near as much implication as f=ma . First thought that occurs in my mind is you are shackled once you sign up for a mortgage. OK, so you do not accrue equity and are not allowed to paint the walls when you rent, but that servitude so voluntarily signed up for? That is becoming the knife hanging by a thread. I am seeing the media push to keep the optimistic veneer to buying a house all the time. The way things are going, I just do not think houses are the answer to America’s problems. Why does the government get involved with housing like it has? I’ll cite my Newton equation again, round-about-ly. Why does the inertia of every situation in America always have to get messed with by the government? Are bankers at the root of it?

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2012-12-12 07:14:06

German opposition proposes bank-financed rescue fund, debt redemption fund for Europe
Published December 12, 2012
Associated Press

BERLIN – Germany’s main opposition parties are proposing that banks should pay at least €200 billion ($260 billion) into a new European rescue fund rather than hoping for taxpayer-funded bailouts in future.

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s center-left challenger in elections expected next September, Peer Steinbrueck, says it’s important to reduce “the blackmail potential of banks.”

In a joint appearance Wednesday with his Social Democrats’ allies, the Greens, Steinbrueck also backed calls for a so-called European debt redemption fund, aimed at helping struggling countries pay off debt. Merkel’s government has vehemently rejected that idea and all other proposals for pooling eurozone debt, saying it doesn’t want a “transfer union.”

Steinbrueck says Europe has long been a transfer union and Merkel has accelerated that process during the crisis by agreeing to bailouts for some countries.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2012-12-12 07:40:14

There were 12,103 babies born in Detroit in the 12 months prior to the Census Bureau survey, and 9,124 of them — or 75.4 percent — were born to unmarried women.

Don’t tell me that the Katrina flooding of horrible rap music was not done on purpose.

http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/obamas-america-will-become-detroit

Comment by Arizona Slim
2012-12-12 08:34:39

Okay, deejay, let’s here you say it: They were black women who don’t speak the king’s English.

And you know something else? Your race-baiting is getting very tiresome. It’s like a one-note symphony.

Time to diversify your repertoire, my friend.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 08:49:28

What is wrong about singing the praises of a city RUN by the far left for 60 unbroken years and where public unions have complete power.

It should be a utopia…

Comment by palmetto
2012-12-12 11:15:55

Oh, please. Portland and Seattle don’t have the problems Detroit does, and they’re run by progressives. SF too.

Although the Seattle area did have a bit of a dust-up yesterday…

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Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Fl)
2012-12-12 11:26:03

Because they ran out the whites and the blacks took it over. Now, it’s a dying, crime-infested crap-box, but that might imply something about race, and we just can’t have that, now can we?

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Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 09:24:20

People who use the word “racist” are Racist®.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2012-12-12 09:45:42

Yes slim the KKK is laughing so hard at this….

Only 7% of Detroit Public-School 8th Graders Proficient in Reading

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/only-7-detroit-public-school-8th-graders-proficient-reading

And when they cant read …well, Ebonics takes over….cause and effect…not racism. Personal choice to be stupid.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2012-12-12 13:34:08

Well guys and gals…Time for what we thought would never happen, tear down all the abandon houses in Detroit which is about 1/3 of then tens of thousands and put people to work……

But like Katrina the locals will not work and the illegals will get the jobs

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2012-12-12 10:58:20

“And you know something else? Your race-baiting is getting very tiresome.”

And you know something else? Your PC lecturing of dj is getting REALLY tiresome.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 07:52:26

Ok - if you are going to go off the grid. Make sure to UNDERSTAND your system.

Oh yeah - $70,000 for solar panels for ONE house?????????

YOU WILL NEVER MAKE YOUR MONEY BACK. EVER.

How much of that was subsidized? Great.

About the worst investment you could make.

And it did NOT EVEN WORK when the power went out.

But you went “green” so all is good.

Yet one $1,500 generator could have done it all.

Ok - done venting.

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Solar Companies Seek Ways to Build an Oasis of Electricity
NY Times | 11/19/12 | DIANE CARDWELL

When Hurricane Sandy wiped out the power in areas like coastal Long Island and the Jersey Shore, what should have been beacons of hope — hundreds of solar panels glinting from residential rooftops — became symbols of frustration.

Despite the popular perception that installing solar panels takes a home “off the grid,” most of those systems are actually part of it, sending excess power to the utility grid during the day and pulling electricity back to run the house at night. So when the storm took down power lines and substations across the Northeast, safety systems cut the power in solar homes just like everywhere else.

“Here’s a $70,000 system sitting idle,” said Ed Antonio, who lives in the Rockaways in Queens and has watched his 42 panels as well as those on several other houses in the area go unused since the power went out Oct. 29. “That’s a lot of power sitting. Just sitting.”

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 08:20:20

$70k seems awfully high. I know people who have installed panels for a fraction of that (say 15K).

We have cheap electricity here in the Centennial State, but people are still doing the solar panel conversions. It’s still too rich for my blood, I’ll wait until I can have an installation done for $5K.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 08:50:47

For 5K - it makes economic sense.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 09:11:22

I bet he was adding up the cost of all the units you could see, and probably exaggerating the amount, for dramatic effect.

 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:36:26

That’s just what he claimed in his taxes.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 12:18:42

Solar energy is for Euro-weenie cheese eating surrender monkeys.

And Toyota Prius is for socialist and homosexuals.

Real American Exceptionalists burn oil and make loud vroom vroom sound spinning donuts and peeling out of Wal-Mart parking lot with plastic testicles hanging from trailer hitch.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 13:14:59

France creates 90% of its electricity from nuclear power.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 20:08:32

Do they drive oversized pickup trucks with it? Heat and cool McMansions in the exurbs with it?

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Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 12:25:11

I wonder how old his panels are. That was the going price 5-6 years ago when silicon was selling for $450 kg. It now sells for $20 a kilo. BTW China just announced their new national solar plan and solar stocks are flying. “The total capacity chosen in 2012, including 1.7 gigawatts selected in the first round, is seven times more than previous years”

Comment by Bluestar
2012-12-12 12:52:15

In America we buy debt at a 50 billion a month clip to prop up the bankesters/housing market. The new Chinese leaders are buying gigawatts of electricity.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-12-12/solar-surges-on-reports-china-advances-rescue-with-subsidies

 
 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 12:33:32

“Yet one $1,500 generator could have done it all.”

Does that $1500 include the fuel?

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 14:09:09

And the maintenance. Even 2 years of rotting in your garage does not make a good emergency power source.

Comment by tresho
2012-12-12 22:25:05

Even 2 years of rotting in your garage does not make a good emergency power source.
Only applies to gasoline powered gennies, and there are straightforward workarounds even with gasoline.

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Comment by tj
2012-12-12 08:13:23

Comment by alpha-sloth
2012-12-12 05:17:43
Why are we allowing all these foreigners to lay claim to U.S. sovereign territory? And why not put an end to it, sooner than later?

Because then they’d seize American property that’s in their country?

bravo! but that’s not the only reason. what logical reason is there for denying foreigners to own property here? why shouldn’t their property be protected? thinking they’ll drive prices up is a false boogieman. prices are headed down, and they would learn that lesson also. after they learned it, they’d be even more reluctant to buy property. the japanese learned it the hard way and their buying never harmed us like most of us thought it would.

Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 08:32:16

Yes it’s a false boogieman argument. The foreigners will learn a hard lesson sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.

Comment by tj
2012-12-12 08:45:05

yes, and protecting their rights strengthens all property rights.

 
 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 10:48:48

prices are headed down

You better believe it. With tens of millions of excess empty houses on the market, they’re going lower…. alot lower.

DO NOT buy housing now.

 
 
Comment by Northeastener
2012-12-12 08:23:48

That seems like poor design and engineering to me. At $70,000, I would expect a system to be able to store energy in batteries or send it to the grid, depending on the need at the time….

Comment by oxide
2012-12-12 11:03:58

EE wasn’t my strong point, but I guess less overall electricity from the panels is wasted if the panels bypass the house and patch directly to the grid. That’s “good” design and engineering if the homeowner chooses that setup. But yeah, it’s clearly not meant for home emergencies, and i too wonder about the $70K figure.

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2012-12-12 08:25:11

A little Christmas cheer

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Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 09:03:01

Dems Ask for Delay to Obamacare Med Device Tax They Voted for in the First Place

Medical Device Tax is just one of 20 Obamacare Taxes.
In a letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid, 18 Democrat senators and senators-elect have asked for “a delay in the implementation” of the Obamacare medical device tax. Like most of the significant tax increases in Obamacare, the medical device tax is scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, 2013, conveniently after the 2012 presidential election.

Each of the 18 Democrat signatories voted for or supported Obamacare in the first place. And now they want a sweetheart exemption from one of its most onerous provisions. Even in Washington DC, that shows a lot of gall.

The signatories to the letter are as follows:

Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

Kay Hagan (D-N.C.)

Al Franken (D-Minn.)

Herb Kohl (D-Wis.)

Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.)

John Kerry (D-Mass.)

Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)

Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)

Robert Casey (D-Pa.)

Ben Nelson (D-Neb.)

Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.)

Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.)

Dick Durbin (D-Ill.)

Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.)

Patty Murray (D-Wash.)

Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)

Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.)

Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) – (Voted for Obamacare in the House)

View PDF here.

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Comment by A human prop in a political speech
2012-12-12 09:12:45

Someone said to me that this $hit is going to be messier than Iraq war at the time it was passed. I am slowly beginning to believe him.

 
Comment by polly
2012-12-12 10:14:22

“Even in Washington DC, that shows a lot of gall.”

That barely registers on the gall meter in this town.

 
 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 09:08:00

“too big to fail,” or at least “too big to prosecute,” was alive and well four years after the financial crisis.”

Posted: 7:27 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 11, 2012

US defends $1.9B deal with British banking giant

By CHRISTINA REXRODE

The Associated Press

NEW YORK —
American authorities on Tuesday cited “astonishing” dysfunction at the British bank HSBC and said that it had helped Mexican drug traffickers, Iran, Libya and others under U.S. suspicion or sanction to move money around the world.

HSBC agreed to pay $1.9 billion, the largest penalty ever imposed on a bank.

The U.S. stopped short of charging executives, citing the bank’s immediate, full cooperation and the damage that an assault on the company might cause on economies and people, including thousands who would lose jobs if the bank collapsed.

Outside experts said it was evidence that a doctrine of “too big to fail,” or at least “too big to prosecute,” was alive and well four years after the financial crisis.

The settlement avoided a legal battle that could have further savaged the bank’s reputation and undermined confidence in the banking system. HSBC does business in almost 80 countries, so many that it calls itself “the world’s local bank.”

Lanny A. Breuer, assistant attorney general of the Justice Department’s criminal division, cited a “stunning, stunning failure” by the bank to monitor itself. He said that it enabled countries subject to U.S. sanction — Cuba, Iran, Libya, Myanmar and Sudan — to move about $660 million in prohibited transactions through U.S. financial institutions, including HSBC, from the mid-1990s through September 2006.

Officials noted that HSBC officers in the United States had warned counterparts at the parent company that efforts to hide where financial transactions originated would expose the bank to sanctions, but the protests were ignored.

HSBC even instructed an Iranian bank in one instance how to format messages so that its financial transactions would not be blocked, Breuer said at a news conference announcing the settlement.

“The record of dysfunction that prevailed at HSBC for many years is simply astonishing,” Breuer said.

For the government not to go a step further and prosecute was “beyond obscene,” said Bill Black, a former U.S. regulator for the Office of Thrift Supervision who now teaches at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.

“Regulators are telling us, ‘Yes, they’re felons, they’re massive felons, they did it for years, they lied to us, and they made a lot of money … and they got caught red-handed and they’re gonna walk.’”

Black disputed the government’s concern that indicting HSBC could take down the financial system.

“That’s the logic that we get stability by leaving felons in charge of our largest banks,” he said. “This is insane.”

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2012-12-12 09:36:28

Lets see, nobody goes to jail. They probably all received large bonuses for the profits they generated due to the illegal conduct. The bank and not the individuals seems to be paying the fine. Yes, this settlement should deter future conduct. (sarcasm on).

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 11:57:02

“by leaving felons in charge of our largest banks…”

by leaving banks pay monies to the politicians…

by leaving the bought politicians in charge of the regulators…

 
 
Comment by Steve J
2012-12-12 10:20:45

A 28-year-old man from Henley Beach South in Adelaide was reported for cultivating cannabis after photos of his plants were noticed on a real estate website.

The plants, growing in pots, inadvertently showed up in photos used to advertise the house for sale.

http://mobile.news.com.au/realestate/news/henley-beach-south-man-reported-after-property-ad-featured-cannabis-plants/story-fncq3gat-1226535669096

Comment by In Colorado
2012-12-12 10:35:02

What I want to know is how much was the asking price on that cinder block dump of a house! $550K?

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 14:14:16

If it were legal, we’d be getting taxes FROM the weed instead of spending taxes to prosecute the weed.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 22:05:24

DOPE!!

 
 
Comment by moral hazard
2012-12-12 10:46:21

“All over the country, activists have declared housing a human right and come together in solidarity,“

You have the right to granite countertops, stainless appliances and a gated community.

If you cannot afford granite countertops, stainless appliances and a gated community they will be given to you without any questioning, if you wish.

Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to make a mortgage payment without an attorney present?

Foreclosure fighters rally in Lake Worth

by Kim Miller

Palm Beach County homeowner advocates will hold a candlelight vigil tomorrow, Dec. 6, in Lake Worth to commemorate a national day of action against foreclosures.

The event, which begins at 5:45 p.m., is part of the Occupy Our Homes’ movement of “Reclaim our homes, reclaim our future.” It will be held at a vacant foreclosed home at 107 North B Street.

This is the second year of the event, which is being organized locally by Palm Beach County homeowner advocate Lisa Epstein and the blog 4closurefraud.org.

“All over the country, activists have declared housing a human right and come together in solidarity,“ said Shab Bashiri, an organizer with Occupy Our Homes Atlanta, “We’re occupying our homes to prevent eviction, disrupting foreclosure auctions, restoring vacant homes to community use, and putting the spotlight on the banks that caused this mess in the first place.”

This entry was posted on Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 at 1:06 pm and is filed under Florida economy, Foreclosures, Housing affordability, Housing boom. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

Comment by 2banana
2012-12-12 11:11:41

And you have the right to put ZERO down and take out home equity loans to infinity.

And you still are a victim!!!!!!

Because it is your house!

And the free sh*t army votes.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 14:15:32

I’m willing to allow that housing could be considered a ‘right’ if those who want said ‘housing by rights’ are willing to live in military barracks.

 
 
Comment by CRATER!!!!
2012-12-12 10:59:13

CRATER!!!!

Comment by Urbanachiever
2012-12-12 11:53:34

NOOOOOOOOO!

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 14:28:07

CRATERRRRRRRRR underachiever~!

 
 
 
Comment by michael
2012-12-12 12:06:05

New phone adivce:

I am really tired of apple and my really old IPhone. I think the nokia lumina 920 looks sweet. I guess the biggest drawback for me is the lack of apps but all the big players (facebook, flixter, Netflix) seem to be available.

Does anybody here have one or any other WP?

I have kids and would love the better camera and video that comes with it which is one aspect where the nokia shines over the IPhone.

Comment by Arson Winger
2012-12-12 12:07:18

Samsung Galaxy??

You will be able to do that thing……

 
Comment by goon squad
2012-12-12 12:26:55

Motorola Droid 5 is available exclusively for Obama Phone program recipients.

And there’s a new custom feature in the Google Maps app to show the Free Sh*t Army where the nearest free sh*t giveaway is happening. The Joe Biden ringtones are pretty kewl too.

Get one today, it’s free!

 
 
Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 12:47:19

The liars are out telling you “it’s ok to buy”. This ought to be enough to tell you it’s a horrible idea for you and a great idea for them.

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2012-12-12 14:17:09

The problem is that the NAR always says it’s a great time to buy (or sell) so it’s not actually a signal, just background noise. So ignore it. Look at the numbers and decide for yourself.

 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2012-12-12 12:48:07

Two lessons of the past that are being ignored:

1) Central planning leads to massive malinvestment.

2) Money printing to try and increase the wealth level of a society - has that ever actually worked?

Instead of trying to decentralize and diversify the markets so they are more responsive, and attempting to gracefully get rid of the malinvestment (a tricky proposition), they are centralizing the markets in the Fed and government, and reinforcing the malinvestment, financialization and homogeneity.

I realize the Fed is trying to increase inflation expectations. But they’re playing with fire with just a lot of handwaving about how they would put it out. Reagan sparked a severe recession to get rid of it but then launched a 30 year binge of deficit spending and here we are today.

At least it’ll be interesting I suppose.

Comment by tj
2012-12-12 14:01:33

Money printing to try and increase the wealth level of a society - has that ever actually worked?

nope. a nation’s wealth is independent of how much currency is floating around inside it.

I realize the Fed is trying to increase inflation expectations. But they’re playing with fire with just a lot of handwaving about how they would put it out.

if it really gets going, it’s almost impossible to stop.

 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 15:54:38

The article I’ve been trying to post keeps getting stuck in cyberspace, so I’ll just write the news:

Christie in New Jersey just passed the law that will allow lenders to foreclose more quickly on abandoned properties.

This is the first time I have seen judicial state pass a law that will help speed up the processing of foreclosures. IL state houses have also passed such a law, but to my understanding, it has yet to be signed by the governor.

Florida needs to do this as well.

This is a potential game-changer in terms of judicial states working through their shadow inventory of foreclosures. IMHO, this could be the trigger that starts another leg down in NJ (and IL to follow)…if you are considering buying in NJ, I would be extraordinarily cautious right now.

The law is set to take effect (ie. the foreclosures begin) in March 2013.

If you want to Google it, the law is called the Residential Foreclosure Transformation Act, signed into law on December 6th.

Once the property has been deemed vacant and abandoned (and they can’t find an occupant to serve otherwise), the sheriff is ordered to sell the property within 60 days.

Again, I can’t stress this enough…this law, and laws like it could be a real game-changer with respect to clearing distressed inventory in judicial states.

Comment by Blue Skye
2012-12-12 17:08:01

What the bill actually says has nothing to do with speeding foreclosures. The state wants to buy up houses that are already foreclosed and on the MLS, then turn them into Section 8 housing (for 30 years minimum).

IMO, this will give banks their asking price, win for the banks and probably why the banks supported the bill. A lose for the taxpayer, who will be hooked for the bonds. There are a lot of really nice houses in NJ, imagine every other one being a Section 8 rental. Of course, the towns can buy the properties themselves, they just have to pony up and pay the bank’s asking.

Should be an interesting challenge to zoned affluence. I wonder if it will doom the gated community model.

One funny thing, there has to be a lisenced Realtor on the Board!

Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 17:44:45

Actually, I posted the wrong bill…Christie vetoed the bill I noted…this one is Senate Bill S2156.

My bad.

 
 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 17:43:29

Actually, I posted the wrong bill…Christie vetoed the bill I noted…this one is Senate Bill S2156.

My bad.

 
Comment by cactus
2012-12-12 17:48:30

Lloyd Blankfein is worried that investors think low interest rates will last forever.

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, discussing how ‘Cliff’ deal may work.”One of the big risks that’s looming is complacency. People are once again complacent about the low level of interest rates,” the Goldman Sachs CEO said at the New York Times DealBook conference Wednesday.

As a result, there could be losses for investors with portfolios heavy with low interest loans, Blankfein predicted.

“At some point growth will come back. I think its going to come back sooner than people think. Now what’s going to happen when growth comes back, interest rates rise?” Blankfein said. “That will have an effect on portfolios and people will have losses.”

Blankfein said that Goldman is advising all its corporate clients to borrow “as much as they’re going to need for as long as they think they could need it” because of the low interest rate environment.

Blankfein’s words revealed a conflict at the heart of Goldman’s business. It advises corporate clients to issue debt while warning investors that buying too much low-interest debt might be financially perilous.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2012-12-12 18:47:56

”One of the big risks that’s looming is complacency. People are once again complacent about the low level of interest rates,”

Hasn’t the Fed basically said they would hold down rates until the jobs come back?

So no employment recovery –> no higher rates for the foreseeable future. What could be simpler?

Comment by Rental Watch
2012-12-12 22:14:21

Rates will be low until they’re not. If you haven’t planned to fix your interest rate fast enough, you will be caught.

The smartest thing people are doing today (if they need to utilize capital long term) is fix their interest rates for as long as possible.

 
 
 
Comment by Resistor
2012-12-12 19:50:38

“Florida is once again the foreclosure capital of the country thanks in part to Tampa Bay, where filings jumped and piled behind tens of thousands of pending cases.”

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/foreclosure-filings-rise-again-in-florida-and-tampa-bay-area/1265889

CRATER!!!!

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 20:50:56

“CRATER!!!!”

I think it goes like this…..

CRATERRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 20:37:37

Why, you may ask, did I just take great pleasure in spending the last hour- and-thirty-four minutes on hold to a call center in Mumbai?

Thanks to government Recovery Act cheese, (which subsidizes broadband incursion into underserved rural territories) I AM FREE OF HUGHESNET!!!

FREE AT LAST. FREE AT LAST. THANK GOD ALMIGHTY I AM FREE AT LAST. (Amen)

Comment by The Dust Grinder
2012-12-12 21:00:21

hughesnet? That two way satellite thingy? did it work?

Comment by ahansen
2012-12-12 22:46:46

Rarely. And with great reluctance, as through pixels were beaming through intertubes of dust.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2012-12-12 22:00:49

Halleluhja!

Hughesnet = overpriced and slow as hell.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 23:38:04

Oh bugger…

L.A. NOW
Southern California — this just in
Cal State Fullerton lockdown: search focuses on Mihaylo Hall
December 12, 2012 | 10:13 pm

Cal State Fullerton University remained on lockdown late Wednesday as police focused their search on one building on the southeast end of campus.

About 400 staff and students are held inside Steven G. Mihaylo Hall, a 200,000-square-foot business and economics structure, where a suspect was last spotted.

The fugitive and four others were involved in an armed robbery earlier in the day in Moreno Valley. They shot an employee, then led police on a wild car chase that spanned four counties. After they stopped at Cal State Fullerton, two of the men were captured. Two others ran away, and one reportedly went into Mihaylo Hall. The fifth was caught in Watts shortly after.

Alarms rang throughout the campus about 4 p.m., alerting students to the incident. While people have been evacuated from other structures, Mihaylo remains locked down. Police had searched about three-quarters of the building as of 8 p.m. Campus Chief of Police Dennis DeMaio could not estimate how much longer it would take.

“It’s a slow-moving process because you’re checking every hallway, every student and having to identify them,” he said.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2012-12-12 23:42:21

High housing prices and homelessness seem to go hand-in-hand…who’d've thunk?

San Diego Ranks Third Highest for Homeless

San Diego is number three in transient population
By Gene Cubbison
Wednesday, Dec 12, 2012 | Updated 6:20 PM PST

San Diego has just attained a third-place national ranking – a distant third, to be sure.

Not for something cool, heroic or lofty.

It’s for the size of its homeless population — just over 10,000 county-wide — which is outranked only by those of New York and Los Angeles — both four to six times larger — according to a report just issued by the U.S. Dept. of Housing and Urban Development.

While the HUD report doesn’t say why this has come about, a visit to the San Diego’s 200-bunk emergency winter shelter in Barrio Logan — operated by the nonprofit Alpha Project for the Homeless – yields some theories, if not quantifiable answers.

“There’s a lot of resources here in San Diego,” says Janis Phillips, a shelter resident who is expected to be among more than 800 street people served by the shelter during its four-month run.

“They help us out,” Phillips adds. “We have this tent from Alpha Project. I feel we’ve got more of these going on than other places that could help the homeless. If you don’t want to see us out in the street, help us.”

Bob McElroy, the Alpha Project’s founder, president and CEO, says this area’s battle against homelessness has become a lot less uphill, thanks to increasingly enlightened local governments agencies, nonprofits and charity groups.

And, says McElroy: “Hey, it’s San Diego”, citing a moderate, year-round climate and mellow urban scene that make the city relatively accommodating to life on the streets.

But only up to a point.

“It is a retirement community; it’s extremely expensive to live here,” says shelter resident Paula Meador. “You have to have money and you have to be productive.”

And given that San Diego County is home to a large military community, the influx of down-on-their luck veterans is a big part of the growing homeless numbers, up 6 percent over last year.

“This is the only shelter for female veterans,” McElroy points out. “We have everything from Vietnam veterans, we have World War Two veterans in here. And we also have Iraq and Afghanistan veterans over here. These kids — that’s going to be an issue for decades to come.”

 
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