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Trying to rent a small house/condo in Central Jersey and have had the run around from the Realtors. When it came to splitting their fee of one month, listing agent presented awful lease, we refused to sign [typos, vague use of security deposit, limit on guests] but I think it was a way to get in a renter where he would get 100% of commission. My agent was totally flustered, was no help, and pretty much wanted me to sign, sign, sign so they could get their 50% and run. Just felt the landlord would be problems in future with outside maintenance we would of had to preform etc. Maybe do the complex type after all …. sure not buying.
Good job! Hold your ground. More often than not, if you sign a vague contract, you lose.
sign it…if they dont put the security deposit in a separate bank account you can use it for rent…and then they have zero deposit
http://landlords.about.com/od/LegalIssues/a/New-Jersey-Security-Deposit-Law.htm
Just focus on the important stuff: payment, deposit return and breakage provisions.
If you really liked the place, I would have circled the typos, crossed out the provisions you didn’t like and at least given them the opportunity to come back with a better offer. Doesn’t work often, but you at least might have gotten their obnoxious realtor fired.
My wife is an attorney…my first experience with this was her marking up the contract associated with getting a lift ticket at a ski resort.
She told me that most of the things they were trying to get you to waive (personal injury related to gross negligence of the resort) could not be waived under state law anyway. It rubbed her the wrong way anyway.
The person selling the lift ticket looked at her sideways, but ultimately shrugged their shoulders.
The message is one of my wife’s favorite sayings when negotiating a deal…”they can’t say ‘no’ if you don’t ask.”
Tell ‘em to take a hike.
That’s the downside of having a middle-man gumming up the works.
When I moved into my current place, I met the LL in person to seal the deal. He had the contract and keys in hand, and I had my check-book and a recent bank-statement to show means/solvency (though he had already verified my employment).
As I read the lease, I saw a few phrases that I didn’t like, and I raised my concerns with him on the spot. We compromised on a few points, crossed out a few minor bits, added a clarifying sentence to another, and then signed the modified version.
Your real problem is dealing with a RE agent.
War More Years! War More Years!
Do you live in the town of Palmetto or is that just a nickname?
We drove through Sarasota yesterday and there was a large streetside protest against The One and in support of the 2nd amendment.
“Do you live in the town of Palmetto or is that just a nickname?”
Nickname, taken from the town of Palmetto, which is more or less just south of where I currently reside.
Enjoy your stay in our (ahem) fair state.
We love Floriduh! We have spent lots and lots of time in Broward but this is only our second visit to the Gulf side as an adult. Stuck in traffic on Sanibel heading out to Captiva now.
Posted a reply, hasn’t shown up yet.
I love Sarasota! Such a calm beach town! Good for them on RKBA! Obama is going to be defeated on these executive orders, either the courts will call them unconstitutional, county sheriffs will not enforce the laws, or the average responsible gun owner will not comply and will be patriotically defying Obama.
I will resist and defy. There will be so many millions who will disobey that it will be at most a symbolic “law.” I don’t care if I lose my job either. A great deal of DOD workers are staunch supporters of RKBA. I went target shooting with colleagues in the DOD several times. One has an AK-47 and lives in California.
The thug is not my president.
either the courts will call them unconstitutional,
Like Obamacare?
This is a list of the 23 executive orders:
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Looks like a pretty bland list as far as Constitutionality goes.
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
will this apply to black people? that would be a positive change…
That is a pretty boring list. The whole episode shows something about the way that a certain sector of the population thinks about the president. Biden mentioned that executive orders could be used to the issue of gun violence and immediately many Americans assumed that meant executive orders would be issues to confiscate automatic weapons. I was channel surfing one evening and I think that I saw Ann Coulter telling Sean Hannity to calm down and not worry about that. Imagine that. Ann Coulter as the voice of reason.
So have they actually, you know, taken or tried to take your guns away or stop you from buying more??
It’s just sad to see grown adults scared by the boogeyman.
‘So have they actually, you know, taken or tried to take your guns away or stop you from buying more’
I’ve said repeatedly here that Obama wasn’t going to take anyone’s gun. He knows that would just get a lot of government workers shot.
’sad to see grown adults scared by the boogeyman’
I’m not scared. But you are all for killing innocent brown children to “protect us from terrorism”. Talk about a boogeyman.
But you are all for killing innocent brown children to “protect us from terrorism” ??
I am not….I have said any number of times we should close every military base not on US soil….If the Saudi’s want military protection, we can sell them hardware if thats what we choose to do and they can hire blackwater….
The thug is not my president.
But you’re willing to let him sign your paycheck. I think you would have worked for Hitler or Stalin had the pay been high enough.
You are confusing government work with forces in governments bent on bans. Government has certain services to provide, with that comes the need to employ contractors and employees. Government does not have to threaten peoples constitutional rights on a daily basis. Wake up.
“executive orders”
Which ones do you find so offensive? Some of them seem pretty routine, like appointing a head of the ATF.
Bailouts we can believe in.
~The American Culture of throwing money at a problem to make it go away~
When the money isn’t coming out of your wallet and you’re in charge of solving a problem AND you’re clueless, what do you do? Throw money at it. Then you’ll never be accused of doing nothing.
This is our legislative branch. And of course they earn a skim on every dollar in some indirect way. And the 12 Moneychangers laugh and spread their wings.
“This is our legislative branch. And of course they earn a skim on every dollar is some indirect way.”
Or in some direct way. Set up - and FUND - a committee to study a problem in order to reach a solution to the problem and you have just created another problem.
The problem you have created is the funded committee.
If the funded committee actually SOLVES the problem then the reason for the existence of the committee vanishes as does the funding, thus those who depend on the existence of the funded committee will be thrown out of a job if the problem ever gets solved. So the energies of the committee members become directed not to solving the problem but rather in keeping the problem from ever being solved.
As Charlie Munger says, “Never underestimate the power of incentives.”
As Charlie Munger says, “Never underestimate the power of incentives.”
+1 Armand Hammer called ‘em “sweeteners.”
Yet another sad story of a victim who through no fault of their own….
Michigan Supreme Court justice charged with fraud
Jan 19, 2013
DETROIT (AP) - Federal prosecutors have filed a fraud charge against Michigan Supreme Court Justice Diane Hathaway, just a few days before she leaves the state’s highest court in a scandal involving the sale of a Detroit-area home and suspicious steps taken to conceal property in Florida.
The charge was filed Friday as a criminal “information,” which means it was negotiated and that a guilty plea is expected in federal court. Defense attorney Steve Fishman declined to comment Saturday.
Hathaway is resigning Monday, months after a series of questionable real estate transactions first were revealed by a Detroit TV station. Hathaway and her husband, Michael Kingsley, deeded a Florida home to Kingsley’s daughter while trying to negotiate a short sale on a house they couldn’t afford in Grosse Pointe Park.
In a short sale, a bank agrees to a sale that wipes out any remaining mortgage, a significant benefit for any borrower. The 2011 deal went through and erased the couple’s $600,000 debt in Michigan. Five months later, in 2012, the debt-free Windermere, Fla., home worth more than $600,000 went back in their names for $10.
The bank fraud charge says Hathaway made false statements to ING Direct, transferred property to others and failed to disclose available cash - all in an effort to fool the bank into believing she had a severe financial hardship. Kingsley, also a lawyer, has not been charged.
Hathaway has refused to make any lengthy public comments. She told WXYZ-TV last spring that the property shuffles were a private matter
http://news.cincinnati.com/usatoday/article/1848109 -
“In a short sale, a bank agrees to a sale that wipes out any remaining mortgage, a significant benefit for any borrower. The 2011 deal went through and erased the couple’s $600,000 debt in Michigan. Five months later, in 2012, the debt-free Windermere, Fla., home worth more than $600,000 went back in their names for $10.”
Even the “smarty-pants” are eligible for the FB award, and then adding bank fraud really is the cherry on top.
I woulda thought being a Surpeme Court Judge would pay decent in Michigan.
My wife’s dad is a retired judge (not state supreme court), but he was paid remarkably little when you compare it to what an experienced litigator may be paid. He made very good money after he retired from the bench, doing arbitrations.
Seems there’s big money to be made if you can be a facilitator of a resolution that is an alternative to traditional litigation.
Says something for the inefficiency of the “normal” court process, and the cost of attorneys…
We need tort reform….
Coast to coast, top to bottom, this nation is the world leader in corruption.
Coast to coast, top to bottom, this nation is the world leader in corruption.
Spoken like someone who has no real understanding of the levels of corruption in other countries…
Spoken like someone who has no real understanding of the levels of corruption in other countries…
Spoken like someone who’s thoroughly brainwashed.
Spoken like someone who’s thoroughly brainwashed.
I’m not saying we don’t have corruption—certainly we do, and I consider the crony capitalism to be corruption for sure.
But at least I don’t get stopped on a regular basis by cops who are looking for a bribe.
Our corruption occurs at a different level, and is not in the day-to-day operation of the strata of society that I operate within.
But at least I don’t get stopped on a regular basis by cops who are looking for a bribe.
Why would they? A significant chunk of your income is taken out and distributed without you even knowing it or let alone agreeing to it.
“Coast to coast, top to bottom, this nation is the world leader in corruption.”
ecofeco 2016
But your gonna need a different campaign slogan.
More truth has never been spoken before.
Steve Sailor has an interesting set of articles on “gentrification”. Say what you want about him, but he does lift the sheet off the way liberal white people practice racism.
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The Oak Park “Black-a-Block” system in detail
No, it’s like this because the government of Oak Park back in the 1960s passed laws to let in some respectable blacks, but definitely not too many. People in Oak Park like to celebrate this as a triumph of liberal integrationism, which I guess is one way of putting it. But mostly they don’t like to talk about it. Personally, I think it’s a fascinating solution that has mostly been stuffed down the memory hole.
Liberal white hypocrisy is a given. But, the techniques liberal whites (Oak Park voted for Obama 83-16) use to get what they want are well worth study by the less privileged.
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The comments are very interesting and even funny too.
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-oak-park-black-block-system-in.html
Liberal white hypocrisy is a given
Our favorite phrase to summarize this:
A college education gives one the “correct” attitude about minorities and the means to move away from them.
Yup. Not a surprise to me. White socialists send their kids to lily white private schools. They want to confiscate guns in neighborhoods outside their own. Rich people have armed guards.
Well the rest of us just have to arm ourselves, buy gold and silver, and prepare for the end of the road t serfdom the limousine socialists are driving us to.
The ironic observation I made is that most working class whites living in integrated neighborhoods tend to be Republican, libertarian, or voluntaryist.
Now you’re just making things up.
Cases in point: my parents in a neighborhood of gangs, drugs, and so forth. Republicans. My sister earning meager income and in a mobile home, ver conservative. DODD engineers and computer scientists: gun-toting non-Democrats.
Now you’re throwing out anecdotes to support what you made up.
Do you have any proof to the contrary?
Yep, stupid people who live off the government, are often, ironically, very conservative and anti-government.
I think it’s the sign of a guilty conscience. And the inability to be truthful with oneself.
Kind of like how the loudest anti-homosexual types always end up getting caught toe-tapping in the men’s room.
Alpha’s being an emotional beech as usual.
Hey retardo Alpha. Over 55% of Americans are the recipients of some government check…ie. taxpayer money. That means over 1 out of 2 people here on Ben’s Blog get some sort of government check either directly or indirectly. Probably yourself.
Are you going to collect social security when you retire? If so, welcome to the taxpayer recipients. Look in the mirror. First of all, you are ugly -goes without saying. Second, you are talking about yourself when you are saying government checks.
Most essential services require that SOME BASTARD BY GOLLY GETS PAID? READ THE CONSTITUTION YOU A$$ WIPE. DEFENSE. HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED IF IT’S FRIGGING FREE.
RETARDED ALPHA. GO AWAY.
Yeah…. but Alpo is our retard. It’s fun to watch him lick the windows.
Yes, it’s a silly argument. A libertarian can’t do contract work for the government. So a big government proponent can’t work in the private sector? Pretty soon we’re like the Planet of the Apes. Gorillas are the military, orangutangs are scholars and chimps are admin.
I think Alpha is a chimp.
I presumed he was a pet three-toed sloth.
http://www.matthewmagellan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/three-toed-sloth-puerto-viejo-jaguar-rescue-center.jpg
In the South, living in integrated neighborhoods has never been a big deal like it has in the North/West.
Jefferson Davis himself had a black wet nurse.
“In the South, living in integrated neighborhoods has never been a big deal…”
Because it rarely happens.
Are you really this unworldly, eco?
If you ever lived in The South after living in The West, The Midwest or The Northeast, you’d immediately agree with Skroodle’s statement.
I’ve lived in all four regions. Multiple years in each.
Nowhere is the United States more integrated than in The South.
Nowhere is the United States more integrated than in
The South ??
And Nowhere in the United States is there more bigotry then in The South…
Truly you do not live on this planet.
It’s not so much the white issue (though that is part of it) as the rich issue. Obama wants government run health care for everyone but won’t even allow government unionized teachers to teach reading and writing to his daughters. They go to private school. When I posted this a couple of weeks ago WOW! All the Obama defenders came to his rescue defending him.
True Sidwell Friends is a pretty campus and wooded and easier for security but a public school is not some impossible challenge.
POLLY said she “could not imagine” how the Secret Service would deliver the kids. Her imagination must be pretty limited. Easy many schools have multiple entrances. Additionally you temporarily for 3 - 5 minutes close the street if necessary. Happens all the time for VIPs for security. POLLY also said the Obamas wanted to be “polite” not making other kids and staff put up with security. Many public high schools across the country require the students to go through metal detectors. You think the Sidwell Friends students and staff don’t deal with security? The Obamas are not worried about inconveniencing people. Think of the chaos they cause whenever they go anywhere. I was stuck in traffic for an hour and a half one quiet weekend afternoon. It was strange for the time and location. Obama had gone to Ben’s Chilli Bowl. (a famous DC dive) for lunch. Believe they’re not concerned about this. Don’t mean that critically. It is just the nature of being POTUS and family. No matter where they go it creates a hassle. And there were other comments from POLLY and others about kidnappings, Sidwell Friends, this that and the other thing. I call bollocks on all it.
If they sent their kids to DC public school because of the scrutiny the kids would get a fine education. More importantly the other students probably predominately black and poor would also get a fine education that they probably would not get otherwise. Doing this would be leadership. The Obama girls might even benefit from interacting with children different from themselves.
But the Obamas don’t won’t their kids going to school with poor black kids. EEEWWWWW!
And you know the left’s talking points. “We ‘re all in this together”, “there are two Americas” “diversity” etc… But when it comes time for action limousine liberals’ view is that all animals are equal but some are more equal.
Posted pre-coffee. Please excuse any typos.
I used to work on a street that was closed often for motorcades. There is no such thing as closing a street for 3 to 5 minutes. Never happens. Half hour is the least amount of time it takes. An hour is more likely. Co-workers who drove to work couldn’t get out of the building to get to the parking garage to pick up their vehicles in the most extreme cases. Those of us going to the metro could get out by walking 3 to 4 blocks out of our way through the back door.
In addition, DC public schools are in neighborhoods where you would have to evacuate dozens if not hundreds of windows (in addition to closing the street) to protect kids entering and exiting the building on a particular schedule. The fact that they would be using one of 4 or 5 outside doors each morning is irrelevant, except that it means you would have to shut down all traffic on every street that had a possible exit on it every single morning or communicate which door the kids would be using.
As I said in the previous discussion, I have been to Sidwell several times and used their parking lot and the back staircase. It is ideal for a secure entrance to the school buildings from a vehicle.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
“You have no idea what you are talking about.”
He never lets facts get in his way!
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Yup. No mention of where previous POTUS & VP children have been schooled in the DC area going back 50 or 60 years. I haven’t checked, but it is a safe bet ZERO% have attended a DC public school.
If that’s true, this is a NON-issue.
The underlying tragedy is that DC schools and all DC public services are the direct responsibility of the US Congress, which continues to be shamefully negligent.
Domo arigato, Mrs. Gboto
From what I understand, Amy Carter attended public schools in Washington, DC, including Stevens Elementary School and Hardy Middle School.
That’s not so long ago.
Security hasn’t changed that much, has it?
Amy Carter wasn’t even allowed to go outside for recess when she attended DC public schools because of security issues. And DC traffic has gotten a lot worse since the 70’s.
Not being allowed to go outside for recess seems like a small burden to bear.
And it doesn’t change the fact that she went to public schools—clearly it was considered feasible from a security POV.
Security hasn’t changed that much, has it?
I would say it’s changed greatly.
Obama could send his daughters to a public school, but it would be probably cost a lot more, and be a lot more trouble for everyone involved, than just sending them to a private school.
It’s a ridiculous thing to get upset about. It’s indicative of nothing, except how good the talking point creators are at exciting some people.
How’s this: Why don’t Presidents ride the bus everywhere? Why are they so special that they get a limo?
And do they really need the White House? How about an apartment where you have to buzz people in? That’s pretty secure.
It’s indicative of nothing, except how good the talking point creators are at exciting some people.
Also indicates how willing people are to distract themselves from constructive activities they could have taken up instead.
Obama could send his daughters to a public school, but it would be probably cost a lot more
You can try to spin all you want and I don’t blame Obama for sending his kids to best public or private schools available.
The Obamas sent their kids to private schools in chicago, too while advocating for public schools for all of us.
End. Of. Discussion.
End. Of. Discussion.
Fine, I think it’s a waste of time, too.
Polly,
I know what I am talking about. I have seen street closures for 3 - 5 minutes for several blocks both in DC and NY for all kind of VIPs. Schools have multiple entrances. Do you really think hundreds of window are evacuated for high security individuals’ arrivals and departures? Secret Service agents create a shield with their bodies, etc… Sidwell is better yes, but a public school is not out the question. “The one” does not want his kids taught by unionized government teachers and going to school with poor black kids.
What kind of parent, given the resources, wouldn’t choose to send their kid to the best school they could possibly afford?
It’s not so much the white issue (though that is part of it) as the rich issue. Obama wants government run health care for everyone but won’t even allow government unionized teachers to teach reading and writing to his daughters. They go to private school. When I posted this a couple of weeks ago WOW! All the Obama defenders came to his rescue defending him.
True Sidwell Friends is a pretty campus and wooded and easier for security but a public school is not some impossible challenge.
Polly said she “could not imagine” how the Secret Service would deliver the kids. Her imagination must be pretty limited. Easy many schools have multiple entrances. Additionally you temporarily for 3 - 5 minutes close the street if necessary. Happens all the time for VIPs for security. Polly also said the Obamas wanted to be “polite” not making other kids and staff put up with security. Many public high schools across the country require the students to go through metal detectors. You think the Sidwell Friends students and staff don’t deal with security? The Obamas are not worried about inconveniencing people. Think of the chaos they cause whenever they go anywhere. I was stuck in traffic for an hour and a half one quiet weekend afternoon. It was strange for the time and location. Obama had gone to Ben’s Chilli Bowl. (a famous DC dive) for lunch. Believe they’re not concerned about this. Don’t mean that critically. It is just the nature of being POTUS and family. No matter where they go it creates a hassle. And there were other comments from POLLY and others about kidnappings, this that and the other thing. I call bollocks on all it.
If they sent their kids to DC public school because of the scrutiny the kids would get a fine education. More importantly the other students probably predominately black and poor would also get a fine education that they might not get otherwise. Doing this would be leadership. The Obama girls might even benefit from interacting with children different from themselves.
But the Obamas don’t won’t their kids going to school with poor black kids. EEEWWWWW!
And you know the left’s talking points. “We ‘re all in this together”, “there are two Americas” “diversity” etc… But when it comes time for action limousine liberals’ view is that all animals are equal but some are more equal.
Posted pre-coffee, please excuse any typos.
I’m surprised that the president’s kids go to any school. It seems to me that it’s too big of a security risk, both for the kids and the school.
Even when he was a state senator/law lecturer, his kid(s) went to private schools.
It’s also too big a security risk for our country. Can you imagine the international/financial repercussion should one of the girls be kidnapped?
Get real, anon.
P.S. He’s against school vouchers. All animals are equal but some are more equal.
How will vouchers fix the problem of inequality? A lot of large urban public school systems already have systems in place to identify the more capable students and offer opportunities to them, like magnet schools and pull-out enriched programs.
The 2 biggest rules of geography in my area are 1) don’t go north of Eastern Avenue, and 2) if you must go north of Eastern Ave, don’t go north of Lombard Street.
Interestingly, the criminals follow these rules, but in reverse.
Those rules make it seem like this is tough. It’s not. There are 5 supermarkets within a mile of me. All of them meet these rules (Santoni’s is on Lombard Street, but all the others are south of Eastern, in neighborhoods that range from 50% white to 90%+ white).
Similarly, all the good restaurants, parks, and other recreation in the area meets these rules. In most cases you’re 6-8 blocks from majority-minority areas but you would never know it, it feels like you could be in Bel Air, MD or something. Especially true when you’re near the water.
I was doing a job search across the country a while back and also trying to use some of the time to look around at housing. I would use whether a Teavana, Chipotle or Paradise Bakery was close by as kind of short cut real rough rule of thumb to try to figure out areas I’d be interested in. (It seemed to work pretty good)
Anybody else got such a shortcut?
Oh my god I’ve given away my demographic!
In addition to looking at the number of markets go in them to see what they’re selling. Really basic stuff or expensive luxury items. This very obvious but a large number banks is a good indicator of upscale / safe. As is wine store vs. liquor.
Or are you trying to access hipness (or a particular sensibility) vs. safety?
It’s usually a good idea to avoid neighborhoods where you find used tire stores.
“It’s usually a good idea to avoid neighborhoods where you find used tire stores.”
+1 And laundromats.
…and payday loan, chech cashing places.
In 1977 I worked for a week in Pine Ridge SD. At the time there was no bank in town, although there had been in previous decades. There seemed to be a large enough local population to justify a bank. I observed this & asked some of the locals how it came to pass that the town had no bank. I was told, “The banks were always getting robbed, so they went out of business.”
Another great Pine Ridge story:
A physician who worked at the Indian Health Service hospital in town had been rude to some of the patients & was run off the reservation one evening by an Indian holding a rifle. He called the hospital director the next day from several hundred miles away & said he would not be returning. I was told this by a different physician at the same facility. Most of the non-physician staff at this facility were related to the patients one way or another. This may explain the line in “Home on the Range” — “seldom is heard a discouraging word”
Of course this did not make the news. Many of the scenes of the movie “Thunder Heart” accurately represented conditions at Pine Ridge as I saw them in 1977.
I’d say that Whole Foods/Redners is a good proxy for an extremely white area, Safeway means it’s ~80% white, Giant/Shoppers/Kroger/Super Fresh means 50-60% white, Aldi/Shop n Save/Shop Rite/Food Lion/Mars means probably <50% white
Areas that have no grocery stores generally are pretty bad. There are a lot of areas of Baltimore, Philly, DC, etc that have basically no grocery stores for a mile in any direction.
I live in a mixed area. I am surrounded by box wine drinking, trail mix toting, tofu eating, pot smoking and self loathing statist progressives. There are a few others like me protecting the walls but we lost a little ground this year when, by a slim margin, this district elected a real live communist to congress.
Oh yeah…there are blacks, hispanics, asians, indians and other races living here as well. I have to suspect that a good number of the non-whites voted for the communist. For now, they seem to be comfortable trading free sh.t for their liberty. Although I don’t think they are too happy about the 2% increase in the payroll tax, that issue stings and will open a few eyes.
‘a good proxy for an extremely white area’
Joe, I have a confession to make. When I lived in San Marcos, Texas, I lived next door to a Mexican. He spoke Spanish and everything. And he owned a chicken. And later I found out he owned hand tools!
When I lived in deep south Texas, there was a llante usadas store nearby. How embarrassing.
Once when I lived in Austin Texas, I had a room mate who was a black man! And sometimes, we even ate together, at the same table!
Anyway, please don’t let my confession get around, I would just die if Mumsie found out.
I was surprised when we moved to White Plains, NY to find that the shopping carts at the grocery store could not be taken into the parking lot. That was several decades ago. I don’t know if it is still true. The stores would also run out of Halloween candy and other holiday merchandise before the holiday. No buying the leftovers at 50% off after the holiday.
It is the only part of the country that I have seen either of these.
Happy now they all have wheel locks (RFID tags in the wheels) that prevent you from leaving the lot.
and you know who steals most of them
“…I would just die if Mumsie found out….”
LMFAO
The shame of it! NOKD.
Uh, why would someone want to take the cart out of the parking lot?
Wow…you gotta get out of Montana once in a while…and I say that with love as a Wyoming boy :-).
I guess we have to explain homeless people need them for bottle recycling…or to steal stuff…some may sleep in them….they can be good weapons,
People used to push them in front of moving cars then fall and fake injuries…
Lots of reason to take them off the lot and the shoppers pay with increased prices.
they can be good weapons,
Not only that, but crazy/reckless drivers careening through parking lots are less likely to hit pedestrians pushing shopping carts, don’t want that much damage to their front ends, y’see.
a) yes, the gentrification issue was quite scary to whites in the 60s. (shock!)
b) I’m going to go out on a limb and say it still is in most of Chicagoland.
c) Oak Park is currently 22% black. I’m guessing here, but it’s about 8 square miles in size. It’s not like you can hide from scary black people there. If you choose to live in Oak Park (and by the way, pay a gob in property taxes), you’ve chosen to live in a more integrated community. Somehow, the place survives.
d) The neighborhood of Chicago to the east of Oak Park is Austin. Gang central. Probably safer to grow up in Pakistan than in Austin.
This is Steve W signing off, your near west Chicago suburb correspondent for the HBB.
Exactly! Because racism is never and issue among other races.
I’m a little tired today, Heidi Klum kept me out pretty late last night.
Yeah, me too. I drank a Lance Armstrong energy drink, went for a walk and found myself in Utah around midnight.
“I drank a Lance Armstrong energy drink, went for a walk and found myself in Utah around midnight.”
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“Thats ones small step for man…”
At least you were in the same time zone.
I drank a Lance Armstrong energy drink,
I swear, the guy is missing a golden marketing opportunity. Call it something along the lines of “juice”—e.g. a word that can be used both for beverages and doping. Can you imagine the tag-lines?
“Juice with the best”
It would have the be bright jersey-yellow in color, of course…
Actually, by waiting this long to come clean on the doping, he kept many a golden market opportunity alive for a very long, lucrative time.
Twinkies will survive Hostess sale
Tom Krier, Associated Pezz
5:41a.m. EST January 20, 2012
There’s no need to panic, another snack company will likely buy the profitable Twinkie brand.
DETROIT (AP) — Twinkie lovers, relax.
The tasty cream-filled golden spongecakes will survive bankruptcy court.
Hostage Brands Inc., Will be the baker of Wonder Bread as well as Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Ho Ho’s, after being sold to Al-Qaeda in a New York bankruptcy courtroom Monday.
Smuggle your Twinkies in from the Great White North, they are still being produced there. Not sure if you will get into trouble with US Customs, though, on the return trip.
“Smuggle your Twinkies in from the Great White North,”
Are these Black Market Twinkies?
“Twinkies will survive Hostess sale”
Yes! There really is a god.
To hell with Twinkies…I miss my Standish Farms Honey Wheat bread.
I can’t believed how many products the B/K took off the shelves.
I think yesterday was the slowest day I’ve ever seen in the comments here. What was everybody out doing?
“Snapping up” houses?
Eating all the brownies and cupcakes at open houses.
Buying ammo (me) or attending gun shows on gun appreciation day.
After months of telling us how glad they are they bought a house, thousands of borrowers are now working second jobs on the weekends to cover the payments.
Many have volunteered to clean bankers shoes for Inauguration Day.
And at least one poster was receiving free medical treatment in Brazil after a plantain got lodged in his ear canal.
Lol.
Attending Obama’s inauguration. I knew some were paid trolls.
Oh please, no one here, left or right, is a paid troll.
You have alot to learn my friend.
The cold snap here in No Cal finally let up.
Got out with the kids and their little scooters around town.
What was everybody out doing?
Fine weather here in NE OH, T 53 and bright sunshine. Worked all day in the back yard attempting to save the life of my 2001 F150, doing major body work. Much noise, showers of red hot metal and general pandemonium, great fun had by all.
Now I need to rest up for a few days, and temps are back to normal for us.
82 degrees here on the Left Coast. Went to Surf City, USA.
Life sucks! -
“82 degrees here on the Left Coast.”
We had a high of 27-degrees F, wind-chill ignored.
Average utility costs (monthly or annually) and location, please?
Visiting family out of state (but I did manage to get in a couple of good posts on airport wireless connections…)
I was working on a problem set. I’m still working on the ffing problem set. After I have that done I need to rework a position paper in which I allegedly committed logical errors.
I believe it may have been because of my intimation about the grader’s pet position. To wit, it sounded like a committee construct slapped together during an orgy of self-congratulation whilst engaged in a circle jerk. Sort of like other static models that have been formulated in a vacuum. I gave examples of similarly precious constructs that have since been discredited.
I find nothing wrong with my logic, and my position statement was appropriately bloodless.
It appears I shall be paying for my incorrect thinking for the remainder of the semester.
posted on my old home town site:
Friday, January 18, 2013
A Question For Our President
Hey, Mr. President! Why aren’t you going after THEIR guns? You know, the ones shooting up NYC, Chicago, LA, DC and most other medium to large American cities. Do something about their ILLEGAL firearms, then you can talk about the legal ones. Dumbass! And yeah, some of us have bled for this country, so we have the right to judge.
Here are some of the photos of thugs with their guns we have posted over the past year. And the idiot in the White House says your AR-15 and our thirteen round Model 21’s are the problem.
http://chasthuglife.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uqD8Ja6IZ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSct2S0xZNM - 209k -
OK nobody commented on this but I can tell by the number of views today of this 3 year old youtube video that a bunch of you watched it. YOUR BUSTED!
I’m not sure what I find the most disturbing, the guns in the hands of these gangstas or the effing pants tied around the knees…wtf?
I can’t tell anymore if dj is serious, or spoofing the people he’s pretending to be.
alpha…. ohbewaana is the most racist president we ever had he needs to take off his hood and start practicing equal opportunity in his own Chicago backyard.
Anyway why isnt he outraged over people having easy access to cellphones in Jail, and posting on FB? are inmates guaranteed an obahhma phone too?
That’s it! Don’t break character!
Did you, personally, bleed NYC DJ? I doubt it.
its not racist if its true…….have you heard even one word of of the hooded pres on gun control in the ghetto?
Property shuffles are a private matter.
Leonardo DiCaprio Taking A Break: Actor Says He Is ‘Worn Out’
Posted: 01/19/2013 1:14 pm EST
“I am a bit drained,” Leonardo DiCaprio told German publication Bild. “I’m now going to take a long, long break. I’ve done three films in two years and I’m just worn out.”
But rather than spending his break relaxing, DiCaprio says that he will take the time to focus on the environment. “I would like to improve the world a bit,” he said. “I will fly around the world doing good for the environment.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/19/leonardo-dicaprio-taking-a-break-actor-worn-out_n_2511644.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment - -
Thank god he didn’t say he is going to “save” the planet.
But rather than spending his break relaxing, DiCaprio says that he will take the time to focus on the environment. “I would like to improve the world a bit,” he said. “I will fly around the world doing good for the environment.”
-1 Oh boy, “doing good” never ends ‘ya know.
“I will fly around the world [in my private jet] doing good for the environment [in between vacations].”
There, fixed it.
I wonder if DiCraprio will be paying for the carbon footprints of jet exhaust when he flies around the world. If those GW types want to get any respect, they better not have any children, but adopt instead. Bringing more kids in the world means more landfills will get more trash, more carbon into our air, and so on.
I normally think his acting is pretty poot, but he was excellent in Django Unchained.
Pootiful indeed.
“I will fly around the world doing good for the environment.”
LOL! That’s priceless…
Can someone please post a username equivalence chart? I can no longer keep track of who is who or who has been who.
ecofeco still ecofeco
nickpapageorgio is not ahansen.
But are you Diogenes?
Only if you’re Rio and I suddenly left Arizona for Florida.
OK — thanks for the clarification.
Darryl…
I’m oxide on weekday mornings.
:-).
It has been a long time since I have posted. Mainly because I was called a bitch or a plant daily for encouraging ppl to invest in the stock market through low cost ETFs from the period from the botton to 1200 on the S&P, and I felt that the bottom in housing was 12 months ago. Well we all see how that turned out. I came back to check the chatter because I feel ppl have learned nothing and the bubble is back, and wanted to tell everyone I am starting to pull money off the table after a 68% run up. The biggest wild card is inflation. I miss you PBear, and hope you did well at least listening to what I had to say.
Natalie, good to pull money off the table. I did so in 2012. I am nearing my exit off the grid and into the culture of voluntaryism and civil disobedience (when Bammy orders my gold and guns and ammo confiscated).
Congratulations Bill. I have fond memories of you too. I am also at the point where I can leave the work force if necessary. I’m not into the guns as much, and will probably focus on art, travel and gardening.
I am also at the point where I can leave the work force if necessary.
Natalie, I’d love to hear your perspective on this in the future. Personally, when I started to have a base of financial independence, I actually found that I felt much less of a need to escape from work, and I actually started enjoying it more. I think that there is something in the knowledge of freedom that changes your perspective, and you actually enjoy whatever your do more when it is your choice to do it. Just my perspective; I would be curious to hear what your experience is.
“Personally, when I started to have a base of financial independence, I actually found that I felt much less of a need to escape from work, and actually started enjoying it more. I think there is something in the knowledge of freedom that changes your perspective, and you actually enjoy whatever you do more when it is your choice to do it.”
Right on! This is where I’m at.
The company I work for has adopted and is driven by the concept of Six Sigma and now, because I am financially free, I get to laugh a lot at work whereas I would otherwise be worried.
I could retire but if I did I would miss out on all the fun.
Six Sigma and Ben Jones’ blog = A good laugh each and every day.
“Retiring” means living the life you want, knowi g you do not really have to work. But you might work. For me (I am typing this in an airport at this moment) it will mean I don’t travel for work and I will have dogs, be social with masters swimming events and mountain bike groups, belong to gun clubs and be active, and be part of the voluntaryist scene. Above all I will not have to stay quiet about my atheism and voluntaryism where I work.
“I think there is something in the knowledge of freedom that changes your perspective, and you actually enjoy whatever you do more when it is your choice to do it.”
Spot on. It’s harder for others in the workplace to threaten you if you know you could walk away from your position tomorrow and have enough savings in the bank to carry you through until you find another opportunity.
and is driven by the concept of Six Sigma
Is it funnier than TQM?
TQM + More Statistics = Six Sigma. But I have a soft spot for TQM because of Deming being from my home town and nobody there even knowing who he is while meanwhile they build more statues of Buffalo Bill.
I enjoyed your posts too Natalie!
I’m not into the guns as much, and will probably focus on art, travel and gardening.
lol
Natalie, good to see you back; I hope that you’ll return more often, and just ignore the nay-sayers/attackers.
I wasn’t sure I disagreed with your forecast—I just made different choices, mostly still sitting out the markets. My reason isn’t that I don’t think they will be inflated; for me, it is more that I have not quite come to peace with investing in a market that seems so manipulated. Yes, it was fairly predictable that the Fed’s intervention and pumping would inflate financials. But I personally believe that an artificially pumped-up market is a fragile, brittle one—a casino essentially. I prefer to invest in a market where the fundamentals actually hold sway.
At any rate, glad to see you still around the HBB.
Have you ever checked out “Market Riders”? They encourage low cost ETFs and provide some tools (some for a fee), for appropriate rebalancing.
I’m personally still in the market, but as I also have inflation concerns, have most of my holdings in REITs.
PBear = GetStucco = CIBT
And by way, I made over $1,500 last week by doing nothing but having some of my assets allocated to a REIT. Thank you, Ben Bernanke!
And by way, I made over $1,500 last week by doing nothing but having some of my assets allocated to a REIT.
Anyone who is investing long-term in REITs should be thinking hard about how ZIRP affects the decision to build apartment buildings, and how many seem to be going up on the heels of the largest building-binge in history, and what those effects may mean long-term both in terms of asking rents, as well as for resale price of buildings being built right now…
One of the reason’s I own no apartment REITs. In addition to the Fed’s ZIRP, interest rates for apartment loans are subsidized by the US government via Fannie/Freddie, making rates lower for apartments as compared to other product types. This has definitely encouraged a lot of apartment construction, but moreover, has pushed apartment cap rates down to crazy levels.
My primary exposure in REITs (98%+) is to industrial (distribution/warehouse and some manufacturing) and basic needs retail (discount and grocery). ZIRP has done little to push lots of additional development of these product types, while at the same time allowing these REITs to refinance lots of their debt into lower, longer-dated maturities. Also, these product types seem to me to be least affected by the internet-ization of commerce.
And by way, I made over $1,500 last week by doing nothing but having some of my assets allocated to a REIT. Thank you, Ben Bernanke!
or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying, and Love the Fed.
That’s what I should do if I were smarter…or stupider. If only I knew which.
Glad to see you posting again, Natalie. Don’t take these avitars TOO seriously; if they’d listened to your good counsel a year ago, they’d have better things to do with their time now than writing nasty commentary about your considered analyses.
Keep it coming.
Man on probation for donkey sex arrested again
Posted on Friday, 01.18.13
The Associated Press
OCALA, Fla. — A man on probation for sexual activity with a miniature donkey is back in jail on unrelated charges.
The Ocala Star-Banner (http://bit.ly/U6wAhF) reports that 32-year-old Carlos R. Romero was arrested Thursday on a warrant for dealing in stolen property and violation of Florida’s pawnbroker act. Ocala Police say he stole 16 train batteries.
On Dec. 14, Romero accepted a plea offer from the State Attorney’s Office for a year of probation and a $200 fine, avoiding jail at the time. He pleaded guilty to sexual activity with a miniature donkey named Doodle.
Since then, Romero says he has been living in the woods or his pickup truck and eating food from Dumpsters. He says he didn’t know he had a warrant for his arrest and thinks the charges are bogus.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/18/3189026/man-on-probation-for-donkey-sex.html - 93k
‘He pleaded guilty to sexual activity with a miniature donkey named Doodle’
What happened to withholding the name of the victim? And as they capitalized Dumpsters, I assume that’s a fast food chain. “I’ll have a half eaten burger, one third of a shake and two of those tater tots on the floor.”
At least he didn’t say that Doodle was “asking for it”.
That would be Mr. Ed.
Thread of the week, right there.
Not so in words, but those eyes….
Don’t diddle Doodle, dude.
What happened to withholding the name of the victim?
Maybe it was a ‘legitimate rape’?
We can only hope the donkey’s reproductive system shut down.
LOL… Nice one, moral hazard…
Fast food always tastes better when eaten in a pickup truck (wink)!
Ben- you are on fire today!!
Thank you, I’ll be here all week!
Just killing time, waiting on it to get warm enough to finish work on a foreclosure here in town. Yesterday I re-winterized it. (Many lenders winterize again when the house goes to market, no matter when it was previously winterized). It had originally been done on 12/23/12.
It was about 80% frozen, with pipe damage likely. The water heater was frozen solid. When I first started doing this in 2008, we would run around winterizing anything vacant, even pre-foreclosures, in October. Now they don’t seem to care about things like this. This house is probably going on the market for around $250k; it’s a nice 3/2 with lots of extra room. So for lack of paying attention to the weather, or bothering to check if it was occupied, this corporation will probably have to pay 5 or 10 grand to tear out walls, fix the pipes, or knock that much off the asking price.
“It was about 80% frozen, with pipe damage likely. The water heater was frozen solid.”
Now THAT is some funny chit!
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Someone in the government must be in the magazine business.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/20/albuquerque-shooting-2013-new-mexico-teenager_n_2516424.html
I grew up in the rural South amongst a bunch of conservative white-folk, hunters, fishermen and farmers - I never heard of anyone ever having or wanting an assault rifle. It is all about the NRA and FOX ginning up the issue for profit. As most people with a brain know: It is always about the money. All of these people lining up at these gun shows are not there to support the Second Amendment, they are there to load up so they can re-sale for a profit later.
All of these people lining up at these gun shows are not there to support the Second Amendment, they are there to load up so they can re-sale for a profit later.
To who?
I grew up out in the country in the 70s and nobody wanted assault rifles then because AKs weren’t accurate enough and ARs didn’t shoot a caliber suitable for big game hunting. A few people had Garands but those weren’t considered assault rifles.
But things have changed since then. IMO the people lining up are mostly people who want them for themselves or their kids and don’t think they’ll ever have another chance.
“But things have changed since then.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7iz1HTh9U - 210k -
Which liberties are okay to keep in your opinion cracker? I want to know so I can update the authorities. We can’t have people making their own decisions, especially decisions that you don’t agree with.
Not sure if you’ve been reading the site in the last week, but I am willing to provide “GUN FREE HOME” yard signs, just let me know where to send them.
“We can’t have people making their own decisions, especially decisions that you don’t agree with.”
So I should be free to own a bazooka or an A-Bomb. Just try to take my A-Bomb from my cold dead hands.
The 90’s called and they want their ridiculous argument back. My “GUN FREE HOME” yard signs are going fast.
On a more serious note. You seem angry about these people lining up at gun shows. These people are just hard working Americans concerned about their rights. They are not your enemy, they are your neighbors. You should be thanking them for getting off their ass and making a statement.
Al Gore Richer Than Mitt Romney After Current TV Sale: Forbes
Posted: 01/08/2013 12:27 pm EST | Updated: 01/09/2013 12:28 pm EST
Here’s a fun fact for this weekend’s dinner party: Al Gore is likely now worth more than Mitt Romney.
The former Vice President sold his Current TV network to Al Jazeera for a reported $500 million last week, a move that will make him worth at least $300 million, according to an estimation by Forbes. That’s more than Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who is worth about $250 million, according to a September estimate from Bloomberg.
If the Forbes guess proves true, it would likely come as a surprise to many. Since losing the controversial 2000 election to George W. Bush, Gore has probably become best known for his environmental activism, not his money (he left office with somewhere between $780,000 and $1.9 million to his name, according to MarketWatch). But he’s quietly made other moves to increase his wealth all the while — like launching Current TV, joining Apple’s board of directors and starting an investment management firm.
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Al Gore also made some 30 mil figure cash selling his Apple stocks. He got that from being on the Apple BOD and I believe he sold them last yr before the CG rates went up.
figureThings I like about Al Gore: I think he’s right that humans are at least partially responsible for climate change.
Things I don’t like about Al Gore: everything, and I mean everything else.
All politicians are in it for money, power or sex; so what is new? Can’t a democrat make a profit?
Another Kool-Aid drinker steps up.
“Can’t a democrat make a profit?”
I guess they will be the only ones permitted to make a profit going forward. The main stream media will never expose these hypocrites and turn the occupy movement against them. Nope, even the most narcissistic and sociopathic progressive statists get a pass.
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Dutch architect to build “endless” house with 3D printer
Jan.15, 2013
Dutch architect Janjaap Ruijssenaars (39) from Universe Architecture in Amsterdam designed a one-piece building which will be built on a 3D printer. He hopes the so-called Landscape House can be printed out latest in year 2014.
http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130115-dutch-architect-to-build-endless-house-with-3d-printer.html
They’ll be making way more large capacity magazines than houses with 3D printers, is my guess.
I hope no one makes an ICBM.
I wonder how hard it will be to get a plutonium toner cartridge?
I wonder how hard it will be to get a plutonium toner cartridge?
You just print one up, duh.
Nice…I always forget there’s a simple solution :-).
I can’t believe this is even remotely-close to an efficient way to build a structure.
It is, however, great for modeling structures or for quickly making small items that are satisfactory, given the materials 3D printers produce. “This Old House” demonstrated the duplication of an adjustable wrench from a working version. The duplicate version worked the same way & didn’t even require assembly. The duplicate was not metal, although the original was.
3-d printing
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16907104
Speculating w/DDD
up 15%
Use your due diligence.
Oh, I also bought some VBNM on a hunch……
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Well Brother Jethro…. your Pats got gypsied again. I don’t know how the flip they only scored 13 points in an entire game. WTF???? I just don’t get it. Nobody puts together a drive like Brady & Co. Nobody. Oh well…..There’s going to be alot of sour pusses at work in RI tomorrow.
Posted: 7:18 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 20, 2013
Children say couple in Tequesta fatal shooting ‘got to the end of their rope’
By Eliot Kleinberg
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
TEQUESTA —
In the end, the retired commercial pilot who still carried his Air Force weight had been reduced to using a walker. The love of his life had begun a journey down the dark path of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease. The twin pianos in their Palm City home stood silent.
The couple’s son says they just plain ran out of hope.
So on Friday, police and family members have said, Roy Boldt, 81, came to the Clare Bridge of Tequesta assisted-living complex and shot Virginia, 75, then himself.
Tequesta police have yet to release the Boldts’ identities, and a spokesman for the department did not return calls Sunday.
“My father had an individual threshold for which he could see beyond pain and incapacity, and had reached his threshold,” his daughter, Lori Boldt Drucker of Jupiter Farms, said Sunday evening. “He would not have left her behind without taking a journey home with her. He would not leave Ginny alone.”
Their son, Jacksonville dentist Paul Boldt, said: “My parents were wonderful people, and gravely ill, and got to the end of their rope.”
Lori Drucker remembers her parents’ “greatest joy”: the days sailing off the south shore of Long Island, near the family’s Massapequa, N.Y., home. Her father was “an avid sailor. My mother was his ‘jib man.’ And we were the ballast, my brother and I.”
Roy and Virginia Boldt had met in New York’s Queens borough when he was 12 and she was 5. They were married 56 years and had two children, five grandchildren and one great-grandchild.
Roy “loved flying and still dreamed about flying. He loved every day of going to work,” his daughter said. She said he retired at 55 from U.S. Airways in 1979. Virginia, a lifelong homemaker, was a member of the high-IQ society Mensa.
“My parents were very private people,” Lori Drucker said. Starting in the mid-1980s, she said, the couple lived full time in a large home in Palm City, where “they really enjoyed taking care of their 2 acres.” Both were talented pianists and often practiced together.
Then Roy spent more than three months in rehabilitation at Jupiter Medical Center, suffering maladies that included prostate cancer.
“This very independent man, who walked 2 miles a day, 6-foot-2, (and) kept his Air Force weight at 167 pounds his entire life, was in great pain,” Lori Drucker said. “I was amazed with the amount of personal strength he had.”
Drucker, a geriatric nurse practitioner who specializes in dementia and Alzheimer’s, said her mother had only in recent years confided that she’d begun to have symptoms in her mid-50s. Even at the end, Drucker said, her mother comprehended much but could not speak.
Just days before their deaths, Roy checked out of the medical center. With his wife institutionalized, he’d moved out of the couple’s home two years ago to a smaller one in the gated Monarch Country Club in the Martin Downs area.
Lori Drucker had told Tequesta police Friday that her father had been in good spirits when she spoke to him recently and gave no indication of what was to come.
But police said Roy came to Clare Bridge on Friday for one of his frequent visits, walking past the staff who knew him well. This time, he brought a handgun.
Earlier Friday, a friend had contacted police to say Roy was acting strangely. Police came to Clare Bridge, went to the nurse’s station and asked for Virginia. A nurse went in the room.
“Apparently the shots were not heard, because there was music” playing, Lori Drucker said.
The couple will be cremated. Aycock Funeral Home in Stuart is handling arrangements. Memorial contributions may be made to Alzheimer’s Community Care, 800 Northpoint Parkway, No. 101, West Palm Beach, FL 33407.
Lori Drucker said Sunday she was especially shaken by the effects on the patients and staff of Clare Bridge. The morning after, she said, she sent two bouquets — one for each group.
“These families already have been so stressed,” she said. “I want to say how terribly sorry we are for any trauma they would have experienced.”
Now do you understand why we need Dr Kevorkian more then ever today…..it could have been done with grace and dignity.
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Now do you understand why we need Dr Kevorkian more then ever today…..it could have been done with grace and dignity.
Tell it to the Christers in the GOP. Talk about the ultimate ’statists’. They want to control your life and death.
So, you would have submitted an Alzheimer’s patient (lacking legal capacity) to Dr. Kevorkian? Nice.
I had a shirttail inlaw who set fire to his house because he was so angry, frustrated or desperate over his demented wife. They both died.
Fine if you want to off yourself, but making that choice for someone else is kinda crossing a line. Maybe not if a wife is still considered to be chattel, I guess.
they would have died hand in hand …instead of blowing their brains out…..sounds like love to me
Heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking.
At least they had a fine life together and didn’t have to live without one another. We should all have such love in our lives….
In Reversal, House G.O.P. Agrees to Lift Debt Limit
By JONATHAN WEISMAN
Published: January 18, 2013
WASHINGTON — Backing down from their hard-line stance, House Republicans said Friday that they would agree to lift the federal government’s statutory borrowing limit for three months, with a requirement that both chambers of Congress pass a budget in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction.
The new proposal, which came out of closed-door party negotiations at a retreat in Williamsburg, Va., seemed to significantly reduce the threat of a default by the federal government in coming weeks. The White House press secretary, Jay Carney, said he was encouraged by the offer; Senate Democrats, while bristling at the demand for a budget, were also reassured and viewed it as a de-escalation of the debt fight.
The change in tack represented a retreat for House Republicans, who were increasingly isolated in their refusal to lift the debt ceiling. Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio had previously said he would raise it only if it were paired with immediate spending cuts of equivalent value. The new strategy is designed to start a more orderly negotiation with President Obama and Senate Democrats on ways to shrink the trillion-dollar deficit.
To add muscle to their efforts to bring Senate Democrats to the table, House Republicans will include a provision in the debt ceiling legislation that says lawmakers will not be paid if they do not pass a budget blueprint, though questions have been raised whether that provision is constitutional.
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