February 15, 2013

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Comment by frankie
2013-02-15 03:10:10

MUMBAI, India — India’s statistics agency is forecasting economic growth of only 5 percent for the fiscal year ending March, the weakest in a decade. It’s a big comedown from just a couple of years ago when officials boasted India could grow at 10 percent or more a year and overtake China.

The finance ministry has accused the statistics agency of being too pessimistic. That spat aside, there’s no question that Asia’s third-largest economy is now not growing fast enough to produce sufficient jobs for its burgeoning youth population.

Here are some questions and answers on India’s slump.

Q: Two years ago, India was growing at 9 percent or more, as fast as China. What happened?

Investment in the economy has slowed sharply because many businesses, foreign and local, have little confidence the government will make significant improvements to India’s creaking infrastructure, ponderous bureaucracy and extravagant corruption. Power outages last year affecting hundreds of millions dramatically underlined strains on the power grid. The poor condition of highways and rail is another major bottleneck for business. Ordinary Indians, meanwhile, have slowed spending because of high inflation, which also inhibits investment, since weaker consumer demand gives businesses less reason to expand.

Read more here: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/02/14/2393480/indias-economy-falls-short-of.html#storylink=cpy

I think the Indians need to employe statisticians from China; just saying ;)

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 08:21:20

5%? Is that all?!

Why, we have a projected growth of…

Oh wait. Never mind.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 10:27:49

Now that all of the jobs worth outsourcing have been outsourced, no wonder things are slowing down.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 11:50:25

I hope the USA taxes the outsources and gives credit to those bringing jobs home. The program will pay for itself.

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Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 13:29:37

The Dems tried to actually pass a bill through Congress to do just that back in 2010… just before the voters gave more power back to the Repubs… who had blocked it.

You really can’t fix our kind of stupid.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 15:13:03

The GOP is all for corp welfare and handouts! Why anyone still votes for them is nuts.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-15 17:10:15

It’s all about voting against, not for.

Comment by oxide
2013-02-15 14:13:42

Maybe, maybe not, Fixer. Anything that uses a computer can be outsourced. So I agree that India has saturated the infrastructure they have. But IF India improved their electrical grid, infrastructure, American-sounding accent, skill levels, less corruption etc, there are probably more jobs to be had. Think of reading medical slides over the Internet and such.

Of course, all that improvement takes money, which will make Indian workers almost as expensive as American workers. So I guess it’s a moot point. India has just passed the peak on the optimization curve.

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 15:15:04

India could certainly take over all of our Accounting. Mine is in Kansas, so I save a bundle over CA wages. Next move….India….than Haiti??

Comment by SUGuy
2013-02-15 14:05:09

India is a basket case as there are no definitive rules and information gathering systems in place. However the poor country will grow as many people there have to choose to work for beans and bread or choose starvation. How does India’s growth impact our economy? The US dependent tech sector is a very small percentage of growth and overall economy. India’s also has a corrupt misleading untrustworthy ministry of truth. I would not draw any conclusions from this article.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2013-02-15 20:07:51

India’s statistics agency is forecasting economic growth of only 5 percent for the fiscal year ending March, the weakest in a decade.

Strange—I thought we were doing our level best to export inflation…

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 05:02:06

Operation Mockingbird and the Cult of the Mockingbird Media

A Listmania! list by Rebecca A Wazny

The list author says: “Freedom of the press is a key component to a free and well informed society. When this component is compromised and the integrity of objective journalism subverted you can be certain that behind the smoke and mirrors justice herself is surely, somehow, somewhere, being held hostage. The only ransom demanded is that you pay attention to and obey whatever brand of propaganda and delusion they spoon feed you.

he activities, extent and even the existence of the CIA project remain in dispute: the operation was first called Mockingbird in Deborah Davis’ 1979 book, Katharine the Great: Katharine Graham and her Washington Post Empire. Davis’ book, detailing how the media had been recruited and infiltrated by the CIA for propaganda purposes, was controversial and not always accurate.

More evidence of Mockingbird’s existence emerged in the 2007 memoir American Spy: My Secret History in the CIA, Watergate and Beyond, by convicted Watergate “plumber” E. Howard Hunt and The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America by Hugh Wilford (2008).”

http://www.amazon.com/Operation-Mockingbird-Cult-Media/lm/RI03LW2W5M56T -

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 08:23:18

Edward Benays.

Wiki him.

Everyone should who this man is and his impact on modern life.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-02-15 08:42:04

“Edward Bernays”

An excellent video (run time = 4 hours):


Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 08:56:07

Thanks. Although many of my views have been moved by reading this blog over the years and I find mysely much more open minded on many social issues. I am still a little old school when it comes to some things. So if you wouldn`t mind, could you say “look him up”. I just don`t like the sound of….

“Wiki him.”

PropagandaMain article: Propaganda (book)

Cover of Bernays’s 1928 book PropagandaIn Propaganda (1928), Bernays argued that the manipulation of public opinion was a necessary part of democracy:

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.[14]

Baaah Baaah

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 10:48:06

So if you wouldn`t mind, could you say “look him up”. I just don`t like the sound of….

“Wiki him.”

Has Wikipedia Beaten Britannica in the Encyclopedia Battle?
By Daniel Ionescu, PCWorld Mar 14, 2012

Has Wikipedia Beat Britannica in the Encyclopedia Battle?
After 244 years in print, Encyclopaedia Britannica announced that it will stop printing its iconic gold-lettered reference books, thus becoming the latest victim of the success of the crowd-sourced online encyclopedia Wikipedia. Instead, Britannica will focus on its online and educational products and says, “change is OK, really.”

Just like Britannica, which has some 100 full-time editors, encyclopedia makers are finding it increasingly difficult to counter Wikipedia’s rise, even though they are not willing to accept it. “This has nothing to do with Wikipedia or Google,” Britannica president Jorge Cauz said told the Washington Post.

Wikipedia’s style of collaboration can lead to inaccurate information though, and this is why the crowd-sourced encyclopedia is being knocked by the likes of Britannica. But there are no recent relevant studies showing that Britannica is more accurate than Wikipedia, besides research in 2005 by the journal Nature that found Wikipedia’s scientific articles had a similar rate of serious errors to Britannica

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Comment by snowgirl
2013-02-15 12:55:08

Agreed. I have made this recommendation many times and yet I never hear any reaction back. This leads me to believe not even one person has ever followed up and bothered to check what he was all about. People don’t want to know.

As for myself, any scales falling away after I found this blog were completely removed once I learned of Edward Bernays.

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 05:11:38

At least the meteorite that hit Russia is not connected to the asteroid that will fly dangerously close to the earth today.

Just in case, if there is anyone here that I insulted or pissed off and I didn`t apologize to I am sorry. :)

Russian Meteor: Meteor Rain or Shower over Russia
http://www.smh.com.au/world/meteor-shower-over-russia-causes-explosions-on-the-ground-20130215-2ei2j.html - - Cached - Similar pages
5 hours ago … ‘Meteor shower’ hits Russia. RAW VISION: A reported “meteor” causes a bright flash in the sky and explosion in Russia’s Chelyabinsk region.

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 06:35:51

If anyone speaks Russian, I would love to know what the dude said at the end of this video. I have a feeling it probably starts with a mother and ends with something that rhymes with ducker.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 07:47:04


Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 09:43:17


Potty mouth.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 05:25:46

Wasn’t someone worried yesterday about an asteroid hitting the earth and destroying human civilization?

Apparently these concerns were greatly exaggerated.

Russian meteor shower causes blasts, injures hundreds
Originally published: February 15, 2013 5:14 AM
Updated: February 15, 2013 7:15 AM
Photo credit: AP/Nasha Gazeta | A frame grab from a video captures a meteorite contrail in Russia. (Feb. 15, 2013)

MOSCOW - A meteor that scientists estimate weighed 10 tons streaked at supersonic speed over Russia’s Ural Mountains on Friday, setting off blasts that injured some 500 people and frightened countless more.

The Russian Academy of Sciences said in a statement that the meteor over the Chelyabinsk region entered the Earth’s atmosphere at a speed of at least 33,000 mph and shattered about 18-32 miles above ground.

The fall caused explosions that broke glass over a wide area. The Emergency Ministry says more than 500 people sought treatment after the blasts and that 34 of them were hospitalized.

“There was panic. People had no idea what was happening. Everyone was going around to people’s houses to check if they were OK,” said Sergey Hametov, a resident of Chelyabinsk, about 930 miles east of Moscow, the biggest city in the affected region.

“We saw a big burst of light then went outside to see what it was and we heard a really loud thundering sound,” he told The Associated Press by telephone.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the nationalist leader noted for vehement statements, said “It’s not meteors falling, it’s the test of a new weapon by the Americans,” the RIA Novosti news agency reported.

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said the incident showed the need for leading world powers to develop a system to intercept objects falling from space.

“At the moment, neither we nor the Americans have such technologies” to shoot down meteors or asteroids, he said, according to the Interfax news agency.


esant0523 1 hour ago

The end is near!!!

MORE: Asteroid will narrowly miss Earth today

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-15 05:48:30

Millions of CA borrowers continue to live in houses they haven’t made a payment on in 4+ years.

It’s not going to end well in CA. Beware.

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 06:24:55

“It’s not going to end well in CA.”

But for the last 4+ years and the foreseeable future…..

Here’s to another month of rent free living. Cheers!

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 10:49:06

Here’s to another month of rent free living. Cheers!

Anyone here at HBB living rent free? Just wondering…

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 11:04:51

We know who isn’t. ;)

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Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 11:58:35

There’s no such thing as free rent.

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 12:11:18

There renting for a fraction of the massively inflated price you paid.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 15:17:14

I know of 4 families in the central valley, living for free, 2 in gated communities. All over 3 yrs. They don’t even sweat it now.

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Comment by likewateroffaducky
2013-02-15 06:59:05

Meanwhwhile; only 40-50% more rebound needs to take place for the lights to be back on– Elliot Pollack Be sure to add him to your liar list.

Just some high number of pesky underwater borrowers to deal with and for healthier demand somehow (jobs maybe) more creditworthy borrowers must be found. But why sweat the small stuff if you’re an economist?

Wife just got a full time job; yew! No more lunch lady Linda; she HAS been living lavishly come to think of it. The job called her is the sweet thing.

Yeah its $12/hr but at least its 8 hrs a day and benefit package. Should be good enough that I can keep substitute teaching. And she’ll work all summer too. Which is a pretty dry time for school workers.

Comment by azdude
2013-02-15 07:27:24

potus wants to raise minimum wage to 9 bucks an hour.

Can any of you live off that?

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 07:47:53

With real inflation, not lying liar CPI (let them eat i-pads), that $9/hour will have about $6 of buying power. And for all the bootstrappy, Galt Gulch, invisible hand of free market, koolaid drinkers, you will be making up the difference with your tax dollars to pay for those workers’ SNAP cards, Obama Phones, EITC, et cetera.

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Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:12:22

This sentiment may be unpopular here, but I think the EITC is a good idea generally. It is a good idea to support people working, doing something with their time and energy, rather than maintaining the current reality, whereby it really doesn’t pay for a lot of low-skill people to work.

I’m not sure an across the board minimum wage increase is good. Perhaps a phased one (an increase of 25c/year?). But it seems like it would hurt young people (college students working part time, teenagers needing summer work, recent college grads still waiting for a real job). And young people are the people you especially want to work, because it can reasonably be expected that their productivity will increase. They have more energy, more potential to learn/improve, and generally are more valuable to the economy compared to relatively older workers.

If we can have less people “sitting it out” of the labor force and get more young people into the labor force, these are good steps. Just the mere fact of having a daily routine and some responsibility will allow at least some of these people to discovery a talent, a motivation, a sense of purpose. It would incrementally reduce reliance on the government as well as petty crime and other social maladies.

But don’t trust me, I play harpsichord and dream of a 2nd house in Sausilito.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 10:33:49

“Just the mere fact of having a daily routine and some responsibility will allow at least some of these people to discovery a talent, a motivation, a sense of purpose.”

And there you have it right there. It’s both hard and not very attractive to “gangsta” when you have a job.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 10:42:09

We used to do that. Lots of guys my age got their first full time jobs in construction. Some partied and bought cars with the money, some paid for school.

Not anymore. Construction around here is still pretty much dead. What construction there is, is being done by illegals and their extended families.

The kids of the top 10-20%ers go off to college on the Bank of Mom and Dad. Some go to school on jock scholarships. Most of the rest are trying to get into the armed forces. If they can’t get into that, they are in the fast food or casual dining “industries”. The rest that can’t find jobs play Xbox.

Oldest daughter’s endorsement of her 28 year old husband. “He’s one of the two or three (late 20’s) people I know who isn’t living in their mom’s basement”

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:06:53

How is the recently-married daughter doing? Her husband just got out of the military, right?

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 12:14:37

He signed up for another five years.

Which, seeing how things are going, is probably a good idea. He would be 26-27 when he gets out, with 5+ years of CH-47 mech. experience.

Seeing as how the -47 is the Whirly-bird of choice for our military interventions (especially at high altitude locations), his future as a DOD contractor is coming up roses.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 12:49:29

Blackhawks and Pavelows are both single rotor birds and as such, have a tougher time generating lift under load at higher altitudes.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:53:38

tell him to talk to some recruiters at L-3 next time he’s based over in iraq, kuwait, or afghanistan. they seem to have most (if not all) of the good maintenance contracts over there

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:02:04

In WA it is over that. In CA it is $7 something. I think it should be up to the states, so they can compete with each other for biz.

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Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:07:54

I believe about 20 states have higher than the federal min. wage.

Most of these states are already in the $9/hr range. I’m not sure if anyone has required $10/hr (very much doubt it).

Comment by tresho
2013-02-15 13:48:42

The City of Santa Fe Living Wage Ordinance was adopted to establish minimum hourly wage rates.

Effective March 1, 2013 all employers are required to pay employees an hourly wage of $10.51 per hour. This includes part-time and temporary employees.

The March 1, 2013 Living Wage increase is in accordance with City Ordinance and corresponds to the increase in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) for the Western Region for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers. All employers required to have a business license or registration from the City must pay at least the adjusted 2013 Living Wage to employees for all hours worked within the Santa Fe city limits.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2013-02-15 17:32:24

Minimum wage should be $100 per hour. Libs, I want to hear your comments. I expect you to agree. If not, why not?

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Comment by ahansen
2013-02-15 23:51:30

Do you honestly think, bila, that what you do is of more value to society than the guy who blows the leaves off your sidewalk? I sure don’t.

Here’s one lib’s take:
Minimum wage should be eliminated entirely and the federal poverty level should be lowered. Nobody has money, nobody buys McDonald’scrap, let alone pays taxes to support war-making and corporate cronyism.

If we’re ever going to get ourselves out of this insanely leveraged economy, we’ll have to bring wages (and prices) back down to a rational level and stop importing serfs to do our children’s jobs.

Comment by rms
2013-02-15 08:35:42

“…she HAS been living lavishly come to think of it.”

Expecting austerity while Kate’s out showing-off her bump?

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 11:53:50

It went well for those who saved $2000+ a month for 4 yrs. And the banks are OK, taxpayers bailed them out. So who lost?
Oh, yah….. the taxpayers….again…..

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 12:31:30

There are about 4.4 million mortgages in California.

I think if “millions” haven’t been making payments for 4+ years, we would be seeing a non-current loan rate of more than 7.6%.

Quit making up sh*t.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 06:02:25

Clearly it was an omen.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 06:03:26

The trail of a falling object above a residential apartment block in the Urals city of Chelyabinsk, Russia on Friday.

Russian meteor christens Group of 20 meeting

A bad omen?
As G-20 leaders meet in Moscow amid talks of currency wars, a meteor crashes down some 1,000 miles away and injures 400.
• G-20 to vow no competitive devaluation: reports
• Dollar drops against yen ahead of G-20

Comment by palmetto
2013-02-15 06:17:11

Ahh, signs and wonders!

Comment by CRATER!!!!
2013-02-15 06:19:35

But the meteorites crater is dwarfed by the hole left by cratering housing prices.


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Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 06:27:13

It was a subprime space rock!

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 10:37:53

Losing 65% the whole way down!

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 10:43:16

Maybe someone is up there in the sky saying “Damn…….I missed”.

Comment by tresho
2013-02-15 10:54:38

Someone hit the “Smite” key on the celestial computer terminal.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-15 11:02:21

Missed it by THAT much!

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-02-15 15:54:25

Fat finger mistake.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 13:07:48

Clearly it was an omen.

Which Omen do you speak of? Was it the Vatican being hit by lightening shortly after the Pope announced he was stepping down? A meteor exploding over Russia? The incident where a Montana TV station was hacked and released an Emergency Alert that the dead were rising from their graves and attacking the living?

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 06:56:06

ABQ Dan has been AWOL lately, so time to revive this topic (relevant to housing because yes, many of you will literally be underwater soon)

“Though just six pages long, its dense, technical writing makes it largely incomprehensible to non-experts. And yet this paper is transforming the climate change debate — prompting the financial world to rethink the value of the world’s fossil fuel reserves and giving environmental activists a moral argument for action.

That’s because behind its complicated terminology is a simple question that affects every aspect of society and business: How much time do we have before the burning of fossil fuels pushes the climate system past tipping points? In a worst-case scenario, about 11 years at current rates of fossil fuel use, according to the paper.”


That said, we are no Al Gore hypocrite. We welcome this news. The sooner that humanoids are no longer the apex predator of the global ecosystem, the better.

And looking forward to burning half a tank of gasoline driving and coal to make electricity to run the chairlifts at Arapahoe Basin tomorrow, they just got 5 inches of freshies and Montezuma Bowl is now open :)

Comment by palmetto
2013-02-15 07:14:26

Ha-ha. Cross-country will become a mode of transporation, not a sport.

Got husky dogs? MUSH!

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 07:48:39

He’s probably in a funk over the massive losses on his gold investments.

Comment by palmetto
2013-02-15 08:58:29

Leave dan alone, snidely whiplash. Say what you want, but he’s intelligent and literate and he came to my rescue when the Blister Sisters started one of their “get palmy” razor toothed feeding frenzies. You don’t have to agree with him, but is a potshot really necessary, when he isn’t here to defend himself?

Dan the Man!

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 09:11:19

blister sisters?

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Comment by Bluestar
2013-02-15 09:54:59

Indeed Dan does have a bit of a right wing slant but he’s not so fixed in his ideology that he can’t be persuaded by sound, logical arguments. If this year turns out to be a record global high temperature I think he would at least back off his claim of “it’s just natural variability”. I know some people like 2fruit will never accept AGW. The climate deniers remind me of die hard Confederates after the civil war. Most of them went to their graves still believing “The South Will Rise Again!”.

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Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 10:26:10

And what’s ignored in all of this discussion:

The number one thing you can do for the environment is to not breed more humanoids. More humanoids = more problems.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 11:57:35

The climate deniers remind me of die hard Confederates after the civil war. Most of them went to their graves still believing “The South Will Rise Again!”.

Kind of like the folks who are against granting gays equal rights. They are quickly finding themselves on the wrong side of history.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-15 09:58:10

Take heart. Beggar-thy-neighbor currency policy is right around the corner…

Feb. 15, 2013, 6:01 a.m. EST
How gold will benefit from a currency war
By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch

Gold stands to benefit from a currency war.

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Talk of a so-called currency war has been heating up, and it might finally light a fire under gold, too.

Efforts by countries such as Japan to boost growth with massive stimulus programs — which in turn have devalued their currencies, an aid to exports — can benefit prices for gold. These have started to alter the precious metal’s relationship with the foreign-exchange market and expand its role as a safe-haven asset.

“We are now moving irrevocably to a time when gold will measure currencies, not currencies measure gold,” said Julian Phillips, a South Africa-based contributor and founder at GoldForecaster.com.

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Comment by ahansen
2013-02-15 23:53:59

Just escaped Mammoth before the weekend hoards hit. Sublime….

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 07:15:27

Because without Drudge, we have nothing. Today’s Drudge Report talking points.

Obama vacationing in Florida:


Obama getting golf lessons:


Michelle Obama vacationing in Aspen:


Michelle Obama eats $900 dinner:


And on a related note, local talk radio turd and Denver Post columnist Mike Rosen will be discussing the shocking scandal of fraudulently obtained Obama Phones on AM 850 at 9:00am MST today.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-15 07:50:07

How did the POTUS’s personal life become such a newsworthy subject?

Is it because of concerns that ‘those people are still in the WH’?

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 08:17:29

Because it’s more interesting to sheeple than complicated noise like “contractors make up 70 percent of the Pentagon’s costs for services”, that’s why.

Same sh*t-slinging from the left happened when Bush choked on a pretzel or fell off his bicycle.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 08:27:50

….and barfed on the Japanes PM.

Now THAT was some epic FAIL! :lol:

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Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:29:34

like father like son

Comment by palmetto
2013-02-15 08:32:59

“and barfed on the Japanese PM.”

Great moments in American History!

Comment by In Colorado
2013-02-15 12:25:30

The should have an “audio-animatronic” doing that at teh Hall Of Presidents at DiensyWorld!

Comment by michael
2013-02-15 09:27:04

same reaon that those are concerned about a drink of water.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-02-15 16:03:37

It was how he took the drink of water. And how he placed the bottle back out of reach when he was done, instead of closer to him in case he needed another swig.

Do we want that lack of foresight in a president?

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Comment by Michael Viking
2013-02-15 11:14:20

How did the POTUS’s personal life become such a newsworthy subject?

Is it because of concerns that ‘those people are still in the WH’?

For a seemingly educated man you sure have a selective memory. You act as if this is a new trend.

Comment by MacBeth
2013-02-15 07:57:21

That $900 cake must be awfully rich.

Let’s hope the Obamas make good use of Nancy Reagan’s china!

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 09:11:03

Another example of one rule for me, another for thee.

She gets to eat $900 cake while advocating kidz to eat broccoli.

And they don’t eat off china anymore. State dinners are served in KFC buckets.*

* as reported in the Washington Times and the UK Daily Mail

Comment by michael
2013-02-15 09:46:06

isn’t the china still at the white house?

where does the cake end up?

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:05:17

Shows you how smart he is, golf lessons really helped me up my game! lol!! Same with skiing lessons. And I too love Aspen. Being the leader of the most powerful country on the planet should have some perks!! Especially since you never stop working. Being on call 24/7 is grueling.

Comment by rms
2013-02-15 19:36:12

WTF has Dubya been up to, basking in his successes?

Comment by mikeinbend
2013-02-15 07:59:28

Dont buy a pig in the Poke

You’ll get a cake from welcoming neighbors (with a file in it) for your close relative in the local hoosegow.

You’ll have to spend your appreciation (if it does not crater) on bars for the windows.
You’ll need to learn Spanish if you want to go shopping.

Reminds me of a sign entering Paso Robles “Welcome to Paso. Almost Paradise”. Never failed to make me chuckle as it sure ain’t that close to paradise, except in miles.

Far cry from livable in Lompoc. Sure it is 60 miles from the nicest area you ever want to see. So is Compton. Driving up to Jalama Beach, at 5AM, against the grain(cuz that’s how I roll) from Goleta all those years; I remember seeing all the daily commuters on the 101 who worked in SB but had to live in Lompoc due to rents; We lovingly called these commuters ‘pigs in the python” (Chain of headlamps looked kinda like a snake).

All our field workers lived there; they were stacked 10 dudes deep per house, getting drizzunk every Sunday playing their tunes. La Musica! Getting to see your wife once a year; only the farm foreman could afford to raise his family in the US of A, even living in Lompoc. Paid those dudes in cash; I am sure most were not here legally. That is why my boss liked Farmer’s market cash.

That and Whole Wallet could not be counted on to buy except at their price, not yours. As organic monoculture cashed in and all the health nuts bought copper celery. Copper is about the only organic fungicide that works even if it turns your product toxic blue. You cut about the top foot off the celery so that gets most of the color there. Super finicky crop, organic celery. And the heaviest box you ever wanted to handle. That and corn with protein on each ear! But you can’t take small crops and rotate them if you want big ag bux. But if it is certified organic it must be good for you, right?

I remember an old boss’s competitor clucking when he would go by our stand, cuz the untreated chicken fertilizer got someone sick according to him. I also remember how we would wash/dry our salad mix in an old washing machine drum. And sell it as pre-washed. We rinsed ours at home. This was before spinach etcetera got many sick with salmonella.

You sure could smell the fertilizer for miles when that “shit hit the fan” though. I learned what that saying was all about calling the chicken farms to spread their egg “byproduct” on our fields.

I am sure living in Lompoc did beat Mexico cuz they could all get together for a car and send $$ home to their families. Also retail workers or any duckys working in SB were in that early morning snake of lights. Either one had to live up there or in Ventura. Santa Maria if you were really lucky. It is a bit nicer there; But windy and cool in summer plus it is over 50% Hispanic. My mother in law hates that aspect of Santo. And another in-law just got laid off his sentry at the gate job at Vandenburg AFB. Santa Maria is famous for BBQ tri-tip, with pinto beans and tortillas BTW.

Living to the north, at least you avoided the hideous traffic jam every morning coming from the south where it goes to two lanes entering SB by the zoo near Monteceito; bad in the evening too going back home. 30 miles and 2 hours later you arrive at work or home. Turning 8hrs to 12. And when there was an accident fuggitaboutit.

Bend OR baby. FTW I am going to the beach this weekend to soak up that Oregon warmth; so forgive my good mood.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:17:37

This was an excellent post. Your experiences have value precisely because you’ve made some mistakes and owned up to them (mostly). I, for one, would rather hear about your experiences than to read the uncritical musings of some realtard pawn like JingleMale or other “housing is a great investment” apologist.

You might want to try a less wordy style (I am guilty of this as well) and it will stimulate more back-and-forth. I know this is hard because you teach all day and can’t post like some of us.

Comment by John B.
2013-02-15 10:34:10

Maybe the problem is that California was originally part of Mexico. So it feels almost natural that after few generations Mexicans are going back and re-establishing themselves in there. I don´t see a reason why you should complain about Spanish speaking population. It is so easy to learn Spanish :)

Talking about immigrants, their coming is almost always a favourable for your country. All these illegal workers are working for US employers who thanks to them make a profit.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 10:42:04

Ah Spanish. The international launguage of science, technology and finance.

Oh wait… :lol:

Comment by John B.
2013-02-15 13:39:46

Well I´m doing my PhD. in Latin American studies and I assure you there are MANY interesting and successful thinkers among Spanish-speakers.
The fact their countries experience high levels of poverty and inequality is not always connected to their possibility to produce interesting results.

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:10:53

yes, that is why Lompoc is dirt cheap. we all know.
Paso beats Bend hands down. Too many OC kooks moved up there, way too cold, and I mean ice, not dry fluffy powder, no jobs, bad schools, too small, But you do have J. Lopez.

Today is 80 degrees in SLO. Where is my sunscreen? Traffic? What is that?

Comment by rms
2013-02-15 19:45:12

“Today is 80 degrees in SLO.”

STOP, ‘yer killing me! :)

Comment by cactus
2013-02-15 18:29:49

Santa Maria is famous for BBQ tri-tip, with pinto beans and tortillas BTW.”

whats that other area where Micheal jackson had his zoo..

Solvang is there I’m too lazy to look but this place with no name what do you think of it ?

I looked it up Santa Ynez whats that like ?

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 07:59:29

David Brooks - When Families Fail

Here bobo author David Brooks discusses the president’s proposal to indoctrinate children as young as four years old in his Marxist Youth Corps:


Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:24:51

I take it your post is somewhat sarcastic?

I don’t know if America is serious about having a worthwhile future as a country or not, but it seems like investing in our young people is our only shot. We should not just throw money at the problem, but - - here’s the thing - - we currently just “throw money” at old people via SS and MC. The average person gets out 3-4x the (inflation adjusted) taxes they pay in. This is ass-backwards. These entitlements should be about setting a “floor” and providing a “supplement”, not sucking the marrow out of the national economy.

Reaching out to children at age 4, 5, 6 is one of the most cost-efficient times to do it. Subsidizing colleges (many of which perform poorly and only 25-30 of which are really first-rate) is a bad investment. Our national hard-on to subsidize loans so Johnny6Pack can go to Kansas State or some other rando school is pitiful.

I don’t agree with “indoctrination” but I don’t consider teaching young children about “the basics” to be indoctrination. Also, don’t believe when all the fundy righties say that schools today have an overly political bent. Believing this would be like believing Rasmussen is the best pollster - - neither of these claims matches up to the real world.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-15 08:32:01

Where are the parents on this mix? Everything is must be done by schools and teachers?

Where are the effin’ parents?

To me it sounds like it’s the parents who need schooling not the kids.

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 08:39:05

Not allowed to ask these kind of question, eight-piece.

Because according to the cultural relativists, all styles of parenting shall be considered equal, including non-parenting.

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Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:47:47

But here is the problem - you either educate the children when they are young or end up with big problems when they are older.

Our national policy right now is to spend money on college. The fact is, college isn’t needed for most people, it is not cost-effective, and it is frankly too late for most people. If you can’t read at a very high level by high school, you most likely will never read well enough to teach yourself (necessary for good decision making and getting a job in a modern economy). I’m not talking about reading Virginia Woolf or Tolstoy, I’m talking about reading a newspaper article, a technical manual, a bus schedule, etc.

We should be spending less on college. Alot [sic] less.

We should be doing anything we can to increase self-sufficiency. Education is a big driver of self-sufficiency. Even if we just boosted reading abilities and math abilities of young people by a fraction, it would be money well spent.

The US is f**ked because we lose so many kids relatively early in the process, not because we don’t spend enough to send kids to college. Most of the money spent on college is wasted.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 11:30:32

The parents are both working. Sometimes at 2-3 jobs. A lot of them on Second and Third shift, and only see the kids on weekends if they are school aged.

Unfortunately, along with stuff like decent benefits, decent salaries and pay raises, one of the other things that has been done away with by the “producers/job creators” is Monday thru Friday, 8am-5pm jobs.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 12:13:07

We have 2 kids, make 130K a year, both have master’s degrees, waited until our late 30’s to have kids, are both public school teachers and consciously chose to be parents.

And guess what? Parenting is challenging. I love my kids like crazy, but parenting is not easy.

I just can’t fathom what it is like for a single mom with 3 kids and a minimum wage job.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-15 13:24:39

I just can’t fathom what it is like for a single mom with 3 kids and a minimum wage job.

Me neither. Being in close proximity to a lot of lower income people, it would appear that when something has to give it’s usually all forms of insurance. But what I can’t imagine is what it’s like for a family member to have a serious medical problem that is treatable but won’t be treated.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 13:30:52

you either educate the children when they are young or end up with big problems when they are older.

Wrong again. Studies have shown that the academic advantages gained from attending preschool are lost by grade 3.

Children not attending preschool is not the reason why low income Black and Hispanic children have a significantly higher chance of not graduating high school, never mind attending college.

Children not attending preschool is not the reason why low income Black and Hispanic children have a significantly higher chance of being incarcerated.

Children not attending preschool is not why Chicago had more gang-related murders last year than US casualties in an active war-zone… Afghanistan.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 14:11:29

ok so we have your opinion about what does NOT cause failure.

So what do you believe does?

What’s your point?

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 14:55:44

So what do you believe does?

*A corrupt culture embraced by poor young blacks and hispanics.
*Gangs and the violence they breed.
*Ignorance and dependence on the state.
*A lack of parenting… kids having and raising kids.
*The “War on Drugs” and minimum mandatory sentencing for non-violent/drug-use crimes.

The typical libtard starts with arguments how poor black families need more handouts from the government to lift them out of poverty and usually ends with “gun control” as the answer to black and hispanic gang violence… always making excuses and tip-toeing around the real issues above.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-02-15 16:11:08

Studies have shown that the academic advantages gained from attending preschool are lost by grade 3.


Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 16:21:32

Not to put words in your mouth, but it does sound like you are indicating that the problems you listed above are caused by “their” “culture”.

Or did I misread you?

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:53:02

To me it sounds like it’s the parents who need schooling not the kids.

Our national policies are anti-child. We spend most of our money on old people.

Thus, a rational and responsible 20- or 30-something person is unlikely to have multiple children. A lot of people still want to have one, but want to wait until they can invest time and money in parenting.

The people having children in America tend to be religious fundamentalists (oft-cited examples are Mormons and Orthodox Jews) and the underclass who have tenuous employment prospects anyway.

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Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 14:38:32

The people having children in America tend to be religious fundamentalists (oft-cited examples are Mormons and Orthodox Jews) and the underclass

You are full of it. My family is middle class with a mid six figure income. Everyone in our group of friends, all in their 30’s, are in a similar income bracket . We all have two children, with a couple having or expecting a third. We are all college educated and none are “religious fundamentalists”… in fact most are non-practicing Catholics. And this is in the Northeast, where the cost of living is high and libtards like you are everywhere.

You really need to lose the “I’m special. I’m a unique snowflake” attitude. You’re not special. You’re not unique. You’re a meat-sack who has contributed little to this world but shuffling papers around. Please, explain to us why you think you are special? From where I sit, you and your “elitist” Ivy league classmates waiting to have children until you’re 40+ means needing a doctor to impregnate your wife and little blue pills for you to get it up…

A lot of people still want to have one, but want to wait until they can invest time and money in parenting.

You don’t need money to be a good parent… You need to put in an effort to spend time with your kids, play with them, and teach them. The few douchebags I know in the top 2% or 3% of income just hire a Nanny to deal with their young kids. And then you limo liberals spend a fortune on head shrinks because your kids are effed up…

Comment by rms
2013-02-15 20:36:12

“You’re a meat-sack who…”

Gotta love that warm fuzzy compassion. :)

Comment by polly
2013-02-15 10:35:50

“Where are the parents on this mix? Everything is must be done by schools and teachers?

Where are the effin’ parents?

To me it sounds like it’s the parents who need schooling not the kids.”

They are working two or three part time jobs that leave them no time for middle class child rearing standards - especially when you take into account the onerous commutes. Or they come from a culture where they don’t actually know that talking and listening to children (a lot) is the way the kids acquire sophisticated language skills. Or they don’t have middle class vocabularies themselves. Or they don’t have a bunch of books around the house. Or they are taking care of elderly and/or sick and/or demented relatives because there isn’t any one else. Or…or…or.

At 3 1/2, my nephew is a little too old for board books, but they still have a bunch of them in the house. He takes at least one to bed with him along with a stuffed animal or five. When I let him direct play time, he wanted to read books for half the afternoon and then was more than willing to be redirected to a set of blocks that introduce basic math skills. There are easily $2000 worth of kids books in the room he shares with my niece. The math blocks weren’t cheap either (I bought them for his sister). And his parents have only one job each. The family has excellent health insurance and babysitting help in the afternoons and six figures in income. Did they absolutely HAVE to go their excellent nursery school to be bright and verbal. No. But a kid from a less enriched environment does.

You can’t make every kid come from a middle class (or wealthier) family that values education. You can make sure they get exposure to adults who have time to talk to them and listen to them and read to them and notice their talents and their interests.

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Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 10:46:42

Where are the parents?

Just like polly says, working. A lot.

The math works out that if you aren’t now making somewhere in the 35K+ range, you should NOT have a kid.

Lucky Duckies make nowhere NEAR that kind of money.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 11:08:13

Kids want to “look up” to someone. Unfortunately, good adult, male “role models are few and far between anymore.

There are millions of boys/men out there who aren’t athletic enough to get on the college/pro sports gravy train, or talented/good looking enough to get into the “entertainment” industries, and aren’t interested in electrical engineering, who are falling thru the cracks. We used to have industries that would put their talents to good use, but most of those jobs are done somewhere else now. So they find work if/where they can, and live in mom’s basement.

As sucky as my job is, I’ve got two son-in laws just getting into the aviation business, and a daughters (ex) boyfriend in a four year degree aviation program at the nearby State U.

My not so ringing endorsement was: “The pay and hours suck, but not everybody has the smarts to do it, and it sure won’t be boring…….”. As pathetic as it is, it is still a lot better deal than their alternatives.

I find it amazing how much they can get done with just a little adult supervision.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-15 11:19:13

Just like polly says, working. A lot.

I can buy that argument if the issue was economic alone and a single parent home. Around me I see parents with good jobs (middle class and upper MC) and they have basically farmed out educating their own kids to schools and teachers.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-15 13:28:18

My not so ringing endorsement was: “The pay and hours suck, but not everybody has the smarts to do it, and it sure won’t be boring…….”. As pathetic as it is, it is still a lot better deal than their alternatives.

Sounds kind of like what I tell people about EE/SW these days. It’s not great, but at least you still have some leverage and some demand since it’s kind of hard and lots of companies need it. And not everything can be outsourced until the companies themselves are gone. And even then you still at least have the ability to keep a modern car running.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 13:36:24

Eight pieces, my point was that the “have to have” 2 income family is the majority.

In our ADD society, bad parenting is prevelent no matter the income, but working long hours because you have too, doesn’t help.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 12:07:07

Where are the effin’ parents?

To me it sounds like it’s the parents who need schooling not the kids.


But you can rail all you want about families failing their kids, and you have a valid and true point, but public schools are required to take the kids as they come.

Public schools can’t say, “your parents did a lousy job so we won’t teach you”.

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Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 08:35:44

You don’t get it dude.

There’s no coin to be made in edumacating those pissy-pants ankle biters.

Better to have the “Job Creator” producers build private-sector, for-profit prisons to incarcerate them all 18 years later, at a cost of $60K/year to taxpayers.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:16:35

Exactly! Be smart! Save money, by educating them now vs prison later. Same with food stamps, if it keeps them out of jail we all save money.

I am 10x more fiscally conservative than any neo-con.

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Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 12:25:11

Pay now or pay later

85 percent of all juveniles who interface with the juvenile court system are functionally illiterate.

More than 60 percent of all prison inmates are functionally illiterate.

Penal institution records show that inmates have a 16% chance of returning to prison if they receive literacy help, as opposed to 70% who receive no help. This equates to taxpayer costs of $25,000 per year per inmate and nearly double that amount for juvenile offenders.

Illiteracy and crime are closely related. The Department of Justice states, “The link between academic failure and delinquency, violence, and crime is welded to reading failure.” Over 70% of inmates in America’s prisons cannot read above a fourth grade level.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-15 12:03:10

Go sit in on ANY kindergarten class anywhere and the difference between kids who have been to preschool and those who have not will be obvious.

Don’t believe me? Ask any kindergarten teacher.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-15 13:31:49

I don’t think it’s so obvious in the homes where the mother is at home. At least in my community.

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 14:21:00

Type of schooling also matters…

There are a number of “play based” programs around us. I know some kids who have gone through them, and were not ready for Kindergarten.

Our daughter went through the other kind (the kind with some structure, concepts, letters, numbers), and she’s doing quite well in Kindergarten.

However, I do agree with Carl. My MIL is a teacher, and she is pretty relaxed about kids at Kindergarten age missing certain concepts–her view is that it’s still early enough for them to catch-up. That “catch-up” is pretty difficult without parental involvement.

For me, the most important part of Pre-K for our kids is to get them used to some sort of structure, and for them to (hopefully) gain an enjoyment for going to school. With our first, it has been successful–our daughter might be sick as a dog, but still burst into tears when we make her stay home…

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 08:06:21

If the HBB were a physical place…. like a room and I owned it… and some of these liars were in there I’d grab’em right by the hair with both hands and heave-hoe their asses out in a hurry.

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 08:21:41

like a room and I owned it

But if you owned it you’d be losing 65%, right?

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 08:45:02

*snerk* :lol:

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:36:34

she has to get a job first, no NINJA loans this time around. ;)

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 08:28:03

I would leave an upper-decker in your toilet and then walk out. You won’t accept less than 100% agreement. Nuance is banned. Being the anti-Yun is fun for you, I’m sure, but most decent people would rather find their own room than have to conform to your dictatorial designs.

I’d go get my own room and have it redone with tray ceilings, crown molding, and wainscoting, then invite mike in bend over because I hear he has the good kush.

Comment by Bigguy
2013-02-15 09:44:04

If it were a room, it would be the Saloon room from the movie Tombstone. Who here is Wyatt (Kurt Russell), Doc, Virgil, who is Ike Clanton, who is Curly Bell, who is that dusky haired lady-devil,and most of all who is Billy Zane?

Gambling and other tomfoolery a constant.

Comment by whirlyite
2013-02-15 13:56:36

I’m you’re huckleberry! LOL

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Comment by whirlyite
2013-02-15 13:58:40

D’oh! I meant “I’m your huckleberry!”

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:18:31

LOL! another tough internet boy. Dont touch my arse, I am not in a wide stance at an airport bathroom. loL! neo-cons! lol!!

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 16:13:37

….. speaking of liars.

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2013-02-15 09:03:30

Arizona Slim, you going to this:


Half a million books. I think we HBB’ers could compile a list of stuff we’d want. Road trip!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-15 09:17:56

Nope, too far away. Instead, I like to go here:


And here’s something else that’s fun and free:


HBB Meetup, anyone?

Comment by zee_in_phx
2013-02-15 12:05:50

Thanks for this, i didn’t know it was going on.

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2013-02-15 12:29:03

Heard about it on KFNN.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-15 09:21:38

Why are foreclosures falling dramatically in CA? Because law firms have paused to determine the impact of CA going from a non-recourse state recourse. There are millions of defaulted properties with defaulted borrowers still living in the house.

Don’t be fooled.

And at the national level, because California is so disproportionately large when compared with the rest of the country, foreclosure numbers also dropped significantly. It’s not because foreclosures slowed down everywhere, it’s because California’s drops had huge impact on national averages.

Comment by Montana
2013-02-15 10:18:20

Recourse would only be for new mortgages, wouldn’t it?

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 14:24:59

That would be correct, even if his statement of CA going recourse were true.

In the land of “Homeowner’s Bill of Rights”, do you honestly think the legislature is going to allow recourse for money purchase loans (ie. changing the law to favor lenders)?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-15 16:16:10

Recourse would only be for new mortgages, wouldn’t it?

No. It’s for in-process and not yet foreclosed properties which there an estimated 3 million in California alone.

And yes….. lenders are moving to recourse in California.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 19:24:15

“No. It’s for in-process and not yet foreclosed properties which there an estimated 3 million in California alone.

And yes….. lenders are moving to recourse in California.”

So, 68% (3 of 4.4 million) of all mortgages in CA are in the process of being foreclosed?

And going the judicial route of foreclosure is not the same as going recourse. To be able to go recourse, the Democratic legislature in California would need to change the current law to allow lenders to go recourse…not likely to happen given their current aim to help borrowers.

Again, quit making stuff up.

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 19:34:23

You have a long established record of lying here. Proven over and over again.

Why would you be truthful about the massive defaulted inventory in CA?

Turning over a new leaf?

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-15 12:21:51

Interesting. Do you have a link? Do all re-fi’s take you from non-recourse to recourse? Every one of them??
Yes, lots of people live in their house for free. Just call a Cal Trans office at any inland location where prices are down >50%, and ask to speak the the person living for free for over 3 yrs, they will give you a long list. They think it is funny.

Comment by Ryan
2013-02-15 09:22:07

File under: God-like Job Creators


Comment by SUGuy
2013-02-15 09:41:04

We looked at this house yesterday. It was last listed for $535K last month and then went into foreclosure. Bank of America owns it. Now BofA has put it back on the market for $689K. Inside it is well built but not high end anything that I would not find in a $100 or less per sq.ft price listed home. Speaking to two realtors ( I mean liars sorry about the mistake pimp watch ) recently I got the impression that they are mad at Frank and Dodd as well as Chucky Schumer. The liars are also aware of the housing market collapse as they seem to be struggling financially. Most of the ones that are still peddling house are retired. Just my 2 cents

Btw something caught my attention on Zillow recently. There seems to be too many houses listed for sale by the owners.


Any advice on the house below is quite welcome? What would hbb price it?

Comment by ahansen
2013-02-16 00:31:26

No idea about the locale or pricing or taxes or particulars, but house itself shows a lovely use of woods and windows which at least suggests thoughtful building. The plunger in the bathroom and the half-mast window treatments throughout might give one cause for concern. Similar house in upper middle class CA would likely be in the 1.2/1.5 million range.

Personally, I’d be hugely offended by BofA’s presumptions and pass for that reason alone.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 09:44:53

Construction and planned community building still in a frenzy around here… LOL in particular at the new 1,750-space parking garage! Is it just me or is that a massive garage?


“The Columbia Association board approved the adoption of the Inner Arbor plan as the new development plan for Symphony Woods Park with an 8-2 vote at its meeting on Thursday.

“The Columbia Association board has taken an important step in embracing a new vision for Symphony Woods and Downtown Columbia,” Howard County Executive Ken Ulman said in a statement. “Working together, we can bring fresh vibrancy to Columbia and fulfill James Rouse’s vision. This is a good day for this community’s future.”

The plan, which was introduced to the public in January, will create an arts village on the eastern side of the park that will include Toby’s Dinner Theatre, a children’s theater, three restaurants, a CA headquarters and 1,750-space parking garage.”

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 10:09:00

That’s great.

All those trees and secluded paths are perfect for you to go cruising for some downlow.

Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-02-15 11:07:47

He can setup his harpsichord and play all day long.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-16 01:00:00
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Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-15 10:51:23

Where I live, that’s average.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:16:11

The irony is, Columbia was James Rouse’s original design of a planned, walkable, mixed-use community (wiki him up).

Yet, they have a lot of parking garages and this one is going to be for 1750 cars. I’m guessing 5 or 6 stories high with 300 cars per level.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 09:51:42

CIBT, how is the Baltic Dry Index doing?

Is it cratering yet? Several east coast ports now have post-Panamax capabilities, for example Norfolk and Baltimore.

I believe the NY/NJ port authority is working on replacing some bridges near Bayonne to give them post-Panamax capabilities too.

Here’s the post-Panamax cranes that were just added here: http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-port-cranes-20130211,0,7285940.story

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-15 09:59:11

Seems to be in a permanent comatose state…

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:18:40

Owners of smaller/older ships are screwed. I’ve seen articles lately talking about ship builders rushing to build even bigger megaships. Now that we have these huge cranes and the shipping lanes have been dredged out so heavily, the old constraints are falling by the wayside.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-15 10:20:13

Somebody better do something.

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 09:53:26

Posted: 10:33 a.m. Friday, Feb. 15, 2013

Man arrested in Boynton slaying knew victim’s son

By Alexandra Seltzer

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

The man who police say violently stabbed a man and killed the man’s wife in Boynton Beach last night was friends with the couple’s son.

Michael O. Ortiz, 20, confessed to stabbing Lyssa Moody, 60, and her husband Chris Moody, 52.

The couple was taken to Delray Medical Center last night where Lyssa Moody later died. Chris Moody remains in the hospital in stable but critical condition. It appears the couple’s son Dylan, 19, was not home at the time of the incident.

Boynton Beach Police were called to the couple’s home at 103 Azalea Circle just west of the Woolbright Road and Congress Avenue intersection in response to an assault call. Fire rescue crews brought the couple to the hospital while police searched for Ortiz.

Ortiz was soon found by an officer and police dog Daxxx, according to a police probable cause affidavit.

After he was taken to local hospital for dog bites, Ortiz was taken to the police station.

He told officers that he lives in a homeless camp in the woods near the Moody home and is friends with the couple’s son Dylan. The two have an ongoing feud over a girl, the affidavit says.

Ortiz came to the Moody home to commit a robbery, he said. He put a black T-shirt over his face and head so the victims couldn’t identify him.

Armed with a knife and BB gun, Ortiz opened the home’s front screen door and entered. He walked to the living room where he found Lyssa Moody sitting on the couch. He pointed the gun at her and demanded money.

She yelled and said she didn’t have any money. Ortiz then hit her and threw her cell phone on the ground so she couldn’t call anyone for help.

Ortiz walked to Dylan Moody’s room while Lyssa Moody followed him and tried stopping him. Ortiz then slashed Lyssa Moody with a knife. After the slashing he removed a laptop from the bedroom. Lyssa Moody confronted him again, and Ortiz stabbed her until she fell to the ground. During the attack the t-shirt that was covering Ortiz’s face began to fall. At the same time Lyssa Moody’s glasses fell on the ground and because Ortiz was scared she’d be able to recognize him, he crushed her glasses.

Chris Moody then tried helping his wife. Ortiz then stabbed him several times in the upper torso, the affidavit says.

When Chris Moody fell to the floor Ortiz kicked him in the head.

Ortiz finally left the home with his laptop, knife and gun. He disposed of all three items and before going back home to the camp in the woods.

He changed his clothes before police tracked him down.

Police also spoke with someone who had a short conversation with Ortiz who was able to positively identify him.

Ortiz is now in the Palm Beach County Jail on charges of first-degree murder, home invasion armed robbery, attempted first-degree murder and grand theft.

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 10:15:28

If only these people had seen the new DHS video they would have known to run to the sewing table and grab the scissors while they were waiting for the gang that can`t shoot straight, I mean the police to arrive.

Homeland Security Video Suggests Scissors Can Fend … - YouTube
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Feb 1, 2013 … Scissors beat gunman in Homeland Security video, That’s some of the helpful advice in a new instructional video from the Department of …

Comment by Montana
2013-02-15 09:55:07

Well, poop, I have just been invited by my CEO to go part-time or independent contractor.

Either way I can COBRA into Medicare next year.

Any advice on which way to go? Don’t have a lot of prospects or energy for that matter lol.

Comment by SUGuy
2013-02-15 10:21:55

I say go part time as the UE will kick in just in case.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2013-02-15 11:21:00

He must be a Republican, doing his part in fighting Obamacare.

What exactly does “part time” mean? Looks to me like he’s trying to dodge paying UE (assuming things down there work the way they do down here).

Welcome to the “Greater Suck”, er……”recovery”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-15 11:29:57

The bossola looks like he/she doesn’t want to offer benefits. I’d be looking for other work if I were you.

Comment by Montana
2013-02-15 12:56:14

Actually he’s pretty liberal, and FWIW the company is actually paying more on our insurance this year and our cost went down quite a bit.

I’m thinking SUGuy is right. As an I/C I might as well just be laid off.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-15 12:20:06

I have no advice, but this is lucky: “COBRA into Medicare next year.”

Lots of people have the same “choice” to make but without your healthcare option.

Comment by Montana
2013-02-15 12:57:32

Yup. I celebrated each milestone, and 18-months-to-Medicare was one of them.

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 14:30:38

I would tend to go part time unless there was significantly more pay for I/C, and you were very comfortable that the service you are providing/knowledge you have is VERY difficult to replace (and the CEO knows it).

Comment by hazard
2013-02-15 11:05:23

HomeLand Security & FEMA-”CLASSIFIED” - YouTube
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Feb 1, 2012

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 11:47:53

Mike Whitney on a roll lately:

Another Giveaway to the Banksters


Comment by aNYCdj
2013-02-15 12:35:06

Of course nice safe white people in Danbury and never a public housing project in Hartford……this is getting so racist….

Biden to give address on gun violence in Danbury

DANBURY (AP) — U.S. Vice President Joe Biden is coming to Connecticut to deliver remarks at a conference on gun violence.

Biden is scheduled to give the keynote address at next Thursday’s discussion at Western Connecticut State University in Danbury.

The conference is being hosted by U.S. Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy and U.S. Rep. Elizabeth Esty. It will focus on federal efforts to reduce gun violence and feature state and local leaders as well as mental health experts and faith leaders.

Danbury is a few miles away from Newtown, where a gunman killed 26 people inside Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14.

Comment by joe smith
Comment by Montana
2013-02-15 16:18:53

ehhh, justice, wrong side of the border for that style of justice.

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-15 12:59:09

More Drudge links for the COEXIST loosers. And here the money quote:

“Stan Alleyne, the Minneapolis Public Schools chief of communications, gave a statement, saying South High is a school that continually makes the district proud.

“South is a very diverse high school,” Alleyne said. “It is a microcosm of the city. Students function together at a high level every day. That is the strength of this school. Our students live diversity every day.”



Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-15 15:05:09

No goon… according to libtards like Joe Smith, those kids just need more tax money spent on them. If only they had attended preschool, had better teachers, had more SNAP money, they would be well-adjusted model citizens of society.

Kind of reminds me of libtards and Pitbulls…

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-15 13:03:47

Went to the oath ceremony for our family friend today who became a citizen. 76 people from 24 different countries took the oath at our time. Many oath takers visibly moved. Our friend (from Africa) mentioned that her brother said that now she is the one in their family who has achieved “the dream” that they always had as kids of being an American citizen.

Our country is better off for this woman (our friend) now being a citizen.

Feeling patriotic today. Happy Friday everyone.

Comment by ahansen
2013-02-16 00:45:27

Congrats and welcome to your friend, Rental. And yes, inclusion is a joyful feeling to share.

Comment by Resistor
2013-02-15 15:45:37

My crazy Cuban neighbor that liked to do yardwork in a thong and penny loafers stopped by today to get some personal belongings and say goodbye to the kids.

He is returning to Miami to be with his family and enter hospice.

Comment by Neuromance
2013-02-15 16:06:08

Elizabeth Warren fires salvo across Wall Street bow.

Elizabeth Warren’s Aggressive Questioning Prompts Anger From Wall Street
The Huffington Post
By Luke Johnson
Posted: 02/15/2013 12:11 pm EST

Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) meeting with bank regulators Thursday left bankers reeling, after the politician questioned why regulators had not prosecuted a bank since the financial crisis.

That set off angry responses to Politico’s Morning Money. “While Senator Warren had every right to ask pointed questions at today’s Senate Banking Committee hearing, her claim that ‘nobody believes’ that bank books are honest is just plain wrong,” emailed a “top executive” to the financial newsletter. ” Perhaps someone ought to remind the Senator that the campaign is over and she should act accordingly if she wants to be taken seriously.”


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