A Market Held Aloft By Speculative Psychology
The Montreal Gazette reports from Canada. “Friday’s report from the Canadian Real Estate Association demonstrates that national home sales continue to be significantly lower than those of a year ago, but that virtually all of this decline happened abruptly last August, reflecting a tough squeeze on mortgage-lending conditions in July by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty. Since then, however, there’s been no further month-to-month downtrend, notes CREA chief economist Gregory Klump. The latest squeeze on mortgage lending, the fourth in five years, is also the toughest, points out economist Robert Kavcic of BMO Capital Markets.”
“In a market held aloft by speculative psychology, it seems very likely that such a hammer blow would bring about the very crash that pessimists have been predicting. Instead, though, the market reacted pretty much as it had during previous rounds of Flaherty’s campaign to rein in the housing market, notes Derek Burleton, deputy chief economist at the TD Bank.”
“What’s the bottom line? In my opinion, it’s that the catastrophist scenario detailed not just by eccentric bloggers but also in national newspapers and magazines, looks increasingly unlikely.”
The Globe & Mail. “A Vancouver real estate marketing company is apologizing for having two employees pose as prospective home buyers in televised newscasts on a supposed spike in sales around the Lunar New Year. The misrepresentation was first spotted by the local online community and then dissected on local blogs and message boards. Some noticed a Google search of one of the women’s names turned up her Facebook and LinkedIn pages – both since deleted – which stated she worked at MAC Marketing Solutions.”
“The two young women – presented as house-hunting sisters whose parents would be in town from China for the New Year to help them purchase a condo – are in fact an administrative assistant and a sales assistant with MAC Marketing Solutions, president Cameron McNeill confirmed to The Globe and Mail.”
“This is the latest in a number of questionable marketing tactics to be exposed within Metro Vancouver’s real estate community. During a media blitz announcing the Groupon-style sale of units at a Surrey condo development last year, one woman identified to a television news crew as an eager local investor was in fact a sales manager for Key Marketing, the company behind the scheme.”
“That same company has also taken groups of Chinese buyers on helicopter tours of Metro Vancouver properties, and at least one of those trips was believed to be misleading. Garth Turner, a business journalist and former politician, reported the Chinese buyers on a Feburary, 2011, trip – on which several media outlets were invited – were in fact local real-estate agents and brokers and the trip was meant to promote a new condo development.”
“According to 2011 data by the Landcor Data Corporation, 75 per cent of those who purchased Metro Vancouver condos as investment properties are from Metro Vancouver. About 3 per cent are from the U.S. and 2 per cent are from other countries.”
From Post Media News. “In a prepared statement, Ethan Faber, managing editor at CTV British Columbia News, said ‘we were certainly surprised to learn that two people our reporter approached who told us they were shopping for a condo, were in fact employees of the company. We are doing a followup story.’ A call to the CBC Vancouver newsroom — which also ran a story that turned out to include fake Chinese investors — was not returned.”
“Company president Cameron McNeill was asked if the apparent misrepresentation being alleged throughout Vancouver’s blogosphere — that the company seemed to be seeking to drum up condo sales using employees as Chinese investor actors — could constitute a fraud. ‘I don’t believe that it was an absolute contrived situation, and I understand that some people would be angry about it,’ he said.”
“Reporters often field real-estate story pitches and, in recent themes, marketers have focused on the voracious Chinese investor who comes to Vancouver on holiday during Chinese New Year ready to throw down cash. On Thursday, the Mac Marketing Solutions Facebook page took quite a backlash against that narrative, seemingly from young Vancouverites who are fed up with exorbitant home prices.”
“Not long ago I was talking to a young doctor who’d just started working at a new clinic on the west side. When I mentioned I write a column on real estate, she actually sneered. ‘Why on earth would you want to write about Vancouver real estate? I think it sucks.’”
“The young doctor and her husband had relocated to the city from the ’burbs and couldn’t afford to purchase a home. Her resentment was palpable. A friend told me about an established lawyer with two kids who couldn’t afford to buy property here either. The lawyer declined to comment for this story, however, because ‘he doesn’t want to be the poster boy for ‘good job, but can’t afford a house.’”
“Instead of obsessing, the more rebellious and unconventional among us simply opt out. People who own often pressure their title-free friends to do the same. ‘For years, my friend who had a house on the north shore said, ‘Buy, buy, buy,’ says former Vancouver Sun theatre critic Peter Birnie, 56, who was never interested. Instead of real estate, Mr. Birnie has his money in conservative blue-chip stock investments. And he’s not regretting his decision, either. ‘When condos came along, my thought was, ‘you are buying a slice of air up in the sky, this non-existent thing,’ adds Mr. Birnie. ‘And I’ve never felt there’s any reason to be spending money on those things, and these days I think I’m proved right.’”
“He’s not alone. An estimated 55 per cent of the city is renting, according to the Vancouver Renters Union.”
The Vancouver Sun. “While the Montgomery townhouses in Vancouver may not be affordable for most people, they do provide an interesting alternative to single-family homes on the west side. The 27 Montgomery townhouses are on four levels - including a basement space, main floor living space, two bedrooms up and then a master suite on the top floor.”
“The UDI/FortisBC Housing Affordability Index for B.C. found that less than 32 per cent of working households in Vancouver earn the requisite $91,199 necessary to qualify for the $2,432-a-month mortgage payment required for the average new 1,463-square-foot townhouse in the area, with a median price of about $765,752. Prices at Montgomery are a bit higher than the median, at about $1 million. The townhouses are also bigger, however, averaging about 1,700 square feet. And they’re in the heart of the city’s coveted west side.”
“The same $1 million could buy a single-family home on the east side of the city, but that home is likely to be small, old and in need of a lot of work, said Chris Rowland, vice-president of the project’s developer, the Listraor Group. The project has attracted both offshore buyers from Asia and families moving up from condos in Vancouver or the suburbs, Rowland said.”
“He said the development is out of the reach of most first-time buyers, and they don’t get many downsizers because of all the stairs.”
“Being right on Oak Street does mean there is some traffic noise, but the builders have installed special glazing on the windows and have added plants to soften the noise and the visual impact of the traffic, Rowland said.”
The Tyee. “Even though the City of Vancouver’s Urban Design Panel rejected a rezoning and development application for a co-housing development in Kensington-Cedar Cottage last month, Dane Jansen, principal of Vancouver’s dys architecture, remains optimistic about the potential for this European housing type to successfully establish itself in Vancouver.”
“‘[Co-housing is] one of the ways we can improve affordability that’s self-initiated,’ he continues. ‘Part of being in co-housing is to reduce some of the lifestyle and budget issues. You’re not always having to go looking for a babysitter because there’s somebody there to deal with your kids if you’re running late coming home one night. People are coming together to be mutually supportive, which should suggest you can reduce some of your other costs in your life and draw that down.’”
“Jansen’s other work in designing social housing units has, like co-housing, drawn on European inspiration. He has designed 220- to 325-square foot apartments several supportive housing facilities in Vancouver, and was one of the first architects to pioneer small suites for such purposes in the late 1990s.”
“‘There was quite an outcry. ‘How dare people live in something that’s the size of a parking space?’ he remembers. ‘For me, I knew that other people living in the rest of the world had been living that way.’”
From CBC News. “A high-rise hotel and condo project on Vancouver’s West Georgia Street is being rebranded as the city’s first Trump tower, CBC News has learned. Developer Holborn Group is relaunching its Arthur Erickson inspired twisting tower under the Trump brand with condos priced around $1,600 a square foot.”
“When the project was originally launched before the global economic meltdown, the 60-storey tower, which will twist 45 degrees as it rises, was to feature a high-end Ritz-Carlton hotel on the lower floors. Another 123 luxury condos were planned for the upper floors, priced between $2.5 million and $10 million, with the penthouse priced at $28 million. But when the recession hit in 2008 the luxury market collapsed. The project was halted and early buyers were refunded their money. The project was restarted in April 2012, with 290 condo units aimed at a lower price point.”
“Trump has a similar project in Toronto. At 65 storeys, Trump International Hotel and Tower has put its stamp on that city, and the Vancouver project might do the same here. But also like the Toronto project, Donald Trump and his daughter are not investing in the Vancouver tower, merely selling the Trump brand to the developer. ‘We are naturally excited about Vancouver. It is a great city with tremendous access to the Asian market and we look forward to continuing to explore the potential of bringing the Trump flag to this location,’ said a statement released by the pair.”
I have been reincarnated. I have become Donald Trump.
If my name was, say Coca Cola, then I would have to pay others to display my name. But since my name is Donald Trump people are willing to pay me to display my name.
If displaying my name works out for the investor then that proves that I am a genius. If it doesn’t work out then - hey - it isn’t my fault, all I did was provide my name.
‘like the Toronto project, Donald Trump and his daughter are not investing in the Vancouver tower, merely selling the Trump brand’
In the name of all that’s holy-moley, if there ever was a sign of real estate Armageddon, it should be when Trump comes to town. How many “investors” have been left in the wake of this guy? They mention Toronto:
‘Trump has a similar project in Toronto. At 65 storeys, Trump International Hotel and Tower has put its stamp on that city’
Yeah, he put a chump stamp on the lower back of many FB’s in Toronto.
Trump seems to be doing a great job at branding/building towers right as said market is crashing. Witness Tampa, Vegas, Chicago, Toronto, now Vancover…
He has really become a national joke in term of RE development. I just can’t understand why he’s not BK again.
Just for the record, I have never been bankrupt.
Dude…… I want hair like yours. How do you do it?
‘I just can’t understand why he’s not BK again’
Because people give him millions to put his name on developments.
“I want hair like yours.”
Be sure to keep clear of fans.
We attended a local performance by The Capitol Steps this past weekend. One skit featured Donald Trump in a toupee that completely covered his face, bringing to mind Cousin Itt from the Addams Family. Bob Dylan was also featured with a Cousin Itt dialect. I haven’t laughed so hard in years!
“Dude…… I want hair like yours. How do you do it?”
I can help.
“…In the name of all that’s holy-moley, if there ever was a sign of real estate Armageddon, it should be when Trump comes to town. How many “investors” have been left in the wake of this guy?…”
Agreed. Whenever the ‘Dr. Trump’s Amazing RE Miracle Elixir and Gout Cure’ wagon comes trundling into town, its a certain indicator that the market has jumped the shark. Call in the shaman- what have we got to lose?
“Mr. Birnie has his money in conservative blue-chip stock investments. And he’s not regretting his decision, either. ‘When condos came along, my thought was, ‘you are buying a slice of air up in the sky, this non-existent thing,’ adds Mr. Birnie. ‘And I’ve never felt there’s any reason to be spending money on those things, and these days I think I’m proved right.’””
This was allowed in print? Don’t they have any real estate advertisers? This thoughtcrime would never be allowed south of the (canadian) border. Maybe it was only permitted as an extremist viewpoint, like real poutine and maple syrup canadians would know to laugh at the guy.
This is as heretical as allowing someone on CNBC to say “skip all this day trading non-sense, just dump it all in PRPFX and GLD and forget about it like vince did in the mid 00s to his great profit” (disclaimer, so as not to cherry pick my best picks, I also thought SRS was a great idea (escaped at about break even, ugh)).
‘you are buying a slice of air up in the sky’
Yeah, but you better get in line early or those Chinese will get it first! This fake investor thing is funny, but should draw some scrutiny too. After all, these people are making some serious cash selling these air boxes. If this were stocks, there would be criminal investigations.
‘the catastrophist scenario detailed not just by eccentric bloggers but also in national newspapers and magazines’
The old doom and gloomer line. Anybody who suggests there’s a bubble is “predicting” catastrophe. It may turn out to be a bad thing for a few real estate people and speculators, but so what? And it reminds me of the old days, when people would literally tell me and others to “quit talking about it”! As if even discussing the idea of lower housing prices could bring it all down.
If this were stocks, the whistleblowers would be prosecuted.
What a horrifying sequence of articles. And as to the first one, anyone using the phrase “soft landing” should be derided mercilessly. No bubble in history has ended in a soft landing.
I was looking at some of my old travel pictures the other day, and saw a bunch from Canada. Vancouver and Toronto are nice places, but come on now.
I’m glad that I am once again categorized as an eccentric. I want no part of current mainstream thinking.
Air boxes!
Love it, Ben. Just love it.
I bet the guy said “f*c*ing floating boxes of air” a la Oxide, and they scrubbed it.
“people would literally tell me and others to “quit talking about it”! As if even discussing the idea of lower housing prices could bring it all down.”
Yes, see what you did?!
Yeah.
Instead of obsessing, the more rebellious and unconventional among us simply opt out.
I hope they’re prepared to opt out for a long time. I suspect their system will work just as hard as ours to make sure their instincts and foresight go unrewarded.
‘their system will work just as hard as ours’
They already did that a few years ago. Canada, Australia and China are the likely future of the US bubble, not the other way around.
Ben, can you elaborate on that a little? I’m not disagreeing, just not sure that I’m understanding as well as I’d like.
These markets took a big fall years ago. They poured liquidity into real estate, lowered rates, you name it. Their bubbles came back and now prices are falling again. The damage is almost certainly going to be worse than if they had let it run its course the first time.
I Totally agree Ben.
Canada, Australia and China kept “doubling down” their bet, when US took it in the shorts. Well… its time for them to pay.
I can’t tell you how many of my Canadian friends say “Its different here”. (like there is no more land in Canada)
An interesting study will be the affect this has in Canada’s vacation/investment areas like Florida, Phoenix and Las Vegas. The first thing to happen to a FB is they sell their secondary properties, to hold on to their “home”.
Will this be enough to drive the market down in those areas?
This may be a good time to sweep up some good deals from desperate sellers….
Canada, Australia and China kept “doubling down” their bet, when US took it in the shorts.
You talking since 2006-2007 or some previous iteration before that?
2006-2007… Canada loosened loans so young and dumb could buy, and China created empty city’s and infrastructure.
“These markets took a big fall years ago. They poured liquidity into real estate, lowered rates, you name it. Their bubbles came back and now prices are falling again. The damage is almost certainly going to be worse than if they had let it run its course the first time.”
Thanks for the clarity, Ben. In that context, that statement makes more sense now and is a re-affirmation of what my perceptions are here on the ground. I only really became sentient in 2005 when the terminal diagnosis of a relative caused us to sell our house and move to Florida to assist in his care. We’ve rented and watched the cavalcade of idiocy down here for over 7 years and I’d be happy to see it end and for housing to again be affordable. I don’t see that happening in the next 12 months, but it DOES seem that the RE merry-go-round is spinning faster and becoming inherently more unstable as governments are running out of cards to play.
Here’s an interesting read of the Canadian experience during the U.S. Depression of the 1930s.
“Ten Lost Years” by Barry Broadfoot
http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Lost-Years-1929-1939-Depression/dp/0771016522/
Canada has run out of real Chinese buyers?
Uh-oh.
That’s not all that’s running out:
‘Canada shed jobs, housing starts plunged and trade weakened in what one economist calls a ‘day of infamy’ for Canadian economic data. “Combined with the steep drop in housing starts as well as the still-wide trade deficit, the jobs report rounds out a day of infamy for Canadian economic stats,” said Doug Porter, chief economist for BMO Capital Markets. “To some extent, the drop in jobs appears to be a payback for the surprising strength in the second half of last year, and would normally be little cause for concern. However, with housing softening notably, and consumers and governments not in much mood (or ability) to spend, the economy will need a major helping hand from a stronger U.S. performance in the year ahead to help generate renewed job gains.”
Like I say….. get ready for the next BIG leg down in housing anywhere near the Pacific coast.
“…Developer Holborn Group is relaunching its Arthur Erickson inspired twisting tower under the Trump brand with condos priced around $1,600 a square foot.”
Come on! With bargains like this in Vancouver, what could POSSIBLY go wrong!
“…get ready for the next BIG leg down in housing anywhere near the Pacific coast.”
Could tacit collusion among G-20 countries to cooperatively devalue their currencies throw a wrench into your dire scenario?
U.S. stock traders seem to collectively assume the prospect of coordinated devaluation in the wake of a politically-engineered U.S. recession will outweigh the potential impact of sequestration on share prices.
Feb. 18, 2013, 12:03 p.m. EST
U.S. stock futures edge up as yen falls
Year’s rally largely intact as sequestration deadline looms
By Kate Gibson and Carla Mozee, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch)—U.S. stock-index futures on Monday tilted slightly higher in limited trade, with U.S. markets shut for Presidents Day; European shares and industrial metals fell on concerns about the global economy, in particular the euro zone, with Italian elections adding to investor uncertainty.
The yen continued its decline against other currencies, including the U.S. dollar, after leaders from the world’s 20 largest economies vowed not to devalue their currencies to bolster exports and bypassed criticizing Japan for indicating its expansionist monetary policies would continue.
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Does that mean the Canadian dollar is going to become less expensive wrt the US dollar?
I love the Stratford Festival, but if the effective cost of the tickets is going down, then purchasing can be put off for quite a while….
If the price if oil stays high, I can see the Canadian dollar staying high as well.
And canadian media and realtors are high too.
I would not be surprised to see $25 per barrel oil sometime in the next few years.
Why, please?
Apparently the way the G-20 has worked things out, a country isn’t supposed to competitively devalue unless it is in a recession.
Seems like this policy would create incentives for countries to take actions that will put their economies into recessions, in order to provide a convenient excuse to reduce their debt loads. Would sequestration be a potential avenue towards this end?
“Apparently the way the G-20 has worked things out, a country isn’t supposed to competitively devalue unless it is in a recession.”
And this can be enforced how? I don’t recall that the WTO has ever been used successfully based only on QE. Maybe pegging your currency to another one, but I can’t specifically remember an instance of that.
The statement falls into the “that plus $2.25 will get you a ride on the subway” realm.
“And this can be enforced how?”
There is a huge literature on cartel discipline if you really want to educate yourself on the topic.
So they are going to do it because a few officials at the central banks will be embarrassed if they don’t because it is breaking the rules of the club? But you think this wouldn’t be a problem if those same central bankers forced their economies into a recession to get around the rules (and that their other central banker colleagues wouldn’t notice)? That doesn’t sound like the central bankers are very good at cartel discipline to me….
“…and that their other central banker colleagues wouldn’t notice…”
That’s easy: Nobody could have seen it coming!
“In my opinion, it’s that the catastrophist scenario detailed not just by eccentric bloggers but also in national newspapers and magazines, looks increasingly unlikely.”
Crash, baby, crash.
“A Vancouver real estate marketing company is apologizing for having two employees pose as prospective home buyers in televised newscasts on a supposed spike in sales around the Lunar New Year. The misrepresentation was first spotted by the local online community and then dissected on local blogs and message boards.”
Whad’ya know: They also have real estate fraud in the Great White North.
For clarification, I meant the dictionary definition of fraud, not the legal definition, as I honestly have no idea what qualifies as fraud under Canada’s real estate law.
Merriam-Webster dot com
fraud
noun \ˈfrȯd\
Definition of FRAUD
1a : deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick
2a : a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor; also : one who defrauds : cheat
b : one that is not what it seems or is represented to be
If you go to the link, you can click on video of the news stories featuring the “sisters.” Hilarious. Why is it that real estate people around the world all look the same? One guy looks like he spent more time sculpting his eyebrows than Michaelangelo spent painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
One of the comments that comes up during the news story is “Caught with your pants down.” Seems like a fitting description of the real estate fraud partners pretending to be sisters who look like hookers.
Here’s the video that includes Nic Jensen’s plucked eyebrows:
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/BC/ID/2333674031/
“The two young women – presented as house-hunting sisters whose parents would be in town from China for the New Year to help them purchase a condo – are in fact an administrative assistant and a sales assistant with MAC Marketing Solutions, president Cameron McNeill confirmed to The Globe and Mail.”
The twisted Chinese-Canadian sisters are working hard to scam thier unsuspecting all-cash Chinese mainland investor brethren into catching themselves falling knives.
to scam their unsuspecting all-cash Chinese mainland investor brethren
I’d think they were being used to trick Canadians into buying before everything gets ’snapped up’ by those darn rich Chinese.
“During a media blitz announcing the Groupon-style sale of units at a Surrey condo development last year, one woman identified to a television news crew as an eager local investor was in fact a sales manager for Key Marketing, the company behind the scheme.”
Potemkin condo fraud, Canadian style…
Potemkin condo fraud, Canadian style…
The same thing happens in bars and restaurants. I once went to a recently-opened bar, and it seemed to be rocking, full of attractive people, who were very friendly and upbeat, and would come up and chat with you. As I talked to them (I at first thought the ladies were just attracted to my good looks), I soon learned that all of them worked for the owner of the bar in some manner (he was a local businessman with various interests).
The place was ‘full’, of his own employees. But it did kind of create that critical mass, and it sucked me in. (I never went back, though, and the bar never really took off. The owner later sold it for a nice profit to a failed RE development scheme.)
Just a variation on putting models in well lit open-curtained condos and around the pool to stimulate interest in buying?
As I talked to them (I at first thought the ladies were just attracted to my good looks), I soon learned that all of them worked for the owner of the bar in some manner (he was a local businessman with various interests).
How does one tease this info out in conversation? Ask people what they do for a living?
They didn’t really hide the fact they worked for him. It almost felt like I’d walked into the grand opening of a mega-church. Everyone was extra/unnaturally friendly. They’d start chatting, ask me how I liked the place or my drink, in a way that made you think they might either work there or own the place. I’d ask them if they did, and they’d say, ‘no, but I work at his xyz office’.
Arguably, they were all there just supporting his new business. But they were so eager and over-friendly about it, it definitely felt staged.
Oh yeah, I remember our waitress was quite cute, but didn’t know how to work a corkscrew.
“…I at first thought the ladies were just attracted to my good looks), I soon learned that all of them worked for the owner of the bar in some manner (he was a local businessman with various interests…”
Was the bar perchance located in Nevada?
How do we short the Canadian housing market?
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“How do we short the Canadian housing market?”
Don’t buy.
OTOH if you’re looking for predator advice I can’t help.
What is “predator advice?”
Sequestration Fallout Looms Over San Diego
Scott Peters, (D) Congressman, 52nd District
As Congress begins its 10-day recess, automatic spending cuts known as sequestration are hovering like a dark cloud. The automatic spending cuts are set to go into effect at the end of this month unless lawmakers reach an agreement.
Newly-elected Congressman Scott Peters, who represents San Diego’s 52nd District, told KPBS sequestration is “the wrong way to go about spending cuts.”
“If you look at any of the bipartisan approaches, whether it’s Simpson-Bowles or the Domenici-Rivlin kind of approach, people who have looked at the budget and figured out how to get a hold of it,” he said. “And they’d like us to do this over time. They take painful measures, no doubt about it, but the idea of this sequestration, they’re saying is more like an amputation.”
Peters said the cuts would be too broad and can throw the country back into the recession. He also wants to connect San Diego’s Port to the national system of highways and trains, but said sequestration would not make that possible.
He said it could also threaten San Diego’s scientific research industries and the military’s impact on the local economy.
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I remember the San Jose-South Bay Area’s defense sector reeling when young Germans were seen knocking chunks of concrete from the Berlin Wall, which signaled the end of the cold war. And when Bush I didn’t get re-elected the defense lay-offs came swiftly and in the thousands every week it seemed.
Yep. The “peace dividend” was supposed to make us all better off.
But the wave of refugees from defense sector engineering jobs into community college math teaching in the early-1990s helped prevent me from landing a permanent position in the field back then.
Lil’ Sis eventually succeeded where I did not. And things worked out for me as well, thanks to the ancient Chinese wisdom that says crisis and opportunity are one-and-the-same.
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