February 21, 2013

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Comment by frankie
2013-02-21 01:54:43

Another euro-pegged government defending an overvalued exchange rate bites the dust, a reminder that the underlying economic and social disaster across the Europe’s Arc of Depression is still getting worse.

Bulgarian prime minister Boiko Borisov resigned this morning after days of mass protests against austerity across the country.

“I will not participate in a government under which police are beating people. Every drop of blood is a shame for us,” he said. “Our power was handed to us by the people, today we are handing it back to them.”

This follows the defenestration of the free-market finance minister earlier this week.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100022927/bulgaria-succumbs-to-euro-deflation-curse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Comment by oxide
2013-02-21 07:52:17

I was relieved to find that Simeon Djankov was simply fired and not actually defenestrated.

Comment by Dave of the North
2013-02-21 08:48:33

If he had, it might have encouraged the others…

 
Comment by polly
2013-02-21 08:49:36

Defenestration is the best word ever.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 09:11:21

It has a great history.

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Comment by polly
2013-02-21 11:42:59

Wikipedia entry is better - and includes an image of the contemporaneous woodcut.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by frankie
2013-02-21 01:56:58

BAE plots £1bn buyback but warns 3,500 US jobs at risk
British defence giant BAE Systems plans to buy back £1bn of shares over the next three years, but has warned that 3,500 US jobs are threatened by spending cuts.

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The company’s announcement of its share buyback came hours after it had warned that it will be forced to cut 3,500 jobs in the US if the threat of Pentagon spending cuts becomes reality.

The company said it had warned staff within its US ship repair business of the possible cuts after the US Navy signalled its “intent to cancel” a number of ship maintenance requirements, should unresolved budget negotiations between Congress and the White House drive spending down.

BAE, which employs around 38,000 people across the US and 5,000 in ship repair, said that cancellation of the maintenance plans would “significantly impact” its ship repair operations in Norfolk, Virginia; San Diego, California; Mayport, Florida; and Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/9884742/BAE-plots-1bn-buyback-but-warns-3500-US-jobs-at-risk.html

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 07:35:18

Did they really just say that stocks are more important than our military?

Comment by oxide
2013-02-21 07:50:34

Yes, they did. And more important than 3500 jobs too.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 08:12:08

BAE is a British multinational. Why would they care about our military or national defense? Let’s be real, they are in business to make a profit, as are all private contractors. No high ranking exec at LMCO, BAE, L-3, GD, NG or any other Big Boyz invisible-hand-of-the-free-market contractor wants you to think that the military could possibly maintain its own ships or helos or jets. They want you to keep military pay low so the mil won’t be able to retain anyone decent. And then the private contractors can charge labor rates equivalent to many multiples of what a master chief with 15 yrs experience would make to “manage” these projects.

This is how they can afford to pay firms like mine so I really can’t complain personally. And even if they have “down” years, there is still plenty of work to go around with stock buy-backs, mergers, acquisitions, revenue bonds, spin-offs, negotiating with subcontractors, IP issues, foreign governments issues (FCPA), False Claims (FCA) law suits, qui tam actions, labor law, ERISA, torts, you name it. God bless the private contractors. They make up 70% of DoD budget, a huge chunk of the Medicare budget, and vast expenses for every single government function–many of which could be done by actual gov’t employees making a fraction as much.\

Never forget: We pay *much* more to LMCO than we do to take care of disabled veterans or their families.

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Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 09:09:17

No high ranking exec at LMCO, BAE, L-3, GD, NG or any other Big Boyz invisible-hand-of-the-free-market contractor wants you to think that the military could possibly maintain its own ships or helos or jets.

The US military has never mass-produced weapons and equipment or maintained them beyond the standard “Preventative Maintenance” procedures as recommended by the government contractors authorized to supply them. This has been the case throughout the history of this country, dating back to the Revolutionary War.

However, Communist countries do control the means to produce and maintain their military hardware and equipment. Is that what you’re advocating? To have an MIC similar to the former Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, and China?

 
Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 09:22:49

God bless the private contractors

God bless the invisible hand of free market, job creator, bootstrapper, producer, maker not taker, masters of the universe, Galt Gulch, Horatio Alger, born in a log cabin, doing God’s work, restoring our future, taking America back, for profit, government contractors :)

 
Comment by cactus
2013-02-21 09:42:30

what does the defense department think about it’s semi conductor supply chain going over seas ? The foundries for many semi conductors fabrication foundries are in Taiwain.

What do they think about RoHs since most electronics are now lead free but in defense all solder must be the old lead based type.

lead free solder is unreliable BTW as the defense department knows

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 10:39:26

‘Big Boyz invisible-hand-of-the-free-market’

As I’ve said before, you are using the “invisible hand” concept incorrectly. I don’t think you know what it means.

 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 11:04:22

I do know what it means. Roughly speaking, it refers to the idea that the market should reveal preference and set prices. Bottom-up information from a market rather than top-down price setting.

I use it in the same sense goon does, which is to say that we’re meme-ing the idiots who wrongly think that private = good, government/public = bad. The truth is, there is a lot more to it.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 11:42:35

‘A term coined by economist Adam Smith in his 1776 book “An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations”. In his book he states:

“Every individual necessarily labours to render the annual revenue of the society as great as he can. He generally neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it … He intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for society that it was no part of his intention. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good.”

‘Thus, the invisible hand is essentially a natural phenomenon that guides free markets and capitalism through competition for scarce resources.’

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/invisiblehand.asp#ixzz2LYofWI3u

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 11:44:25

“what does the defense department think about it’s semi conductor supply chain going over seas ?”

Several years ago, a “back door” was found on chips going into missles.

Chips from Taiwan.

 
 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 09:44:51

No one said anything about controlling means of production. A lot of what these companies do is routine maintenance. Even the day-to-day operations of shipyards and hangars is contracted out. I see the labor categories and charges in the bids. They are several times higher than what the same job roles make in the min.

In many cases, the private contractors work right along side the mil, costing several times as much and without the same oversight.

This became extremely obvious during the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns, where contractors were doing things that the military should’ve been doing, such as securing military convoys, bodyguarding for military officers, and guarding military installations.

Blackwater pwned the US taxpayer for Billions. I respect them for it, why shouldn’t they try to make money?; the joke is really on the taxpayer.

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Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 09:49:40

Also, as far as what I’d advocate if I was in government?

A much, much smaller military, almost no overseas presence, and moving routine maintenance/security/management tasks back to the military ranks instead of the private sector. Obviously this would need to take place over time and use some smart judgment calls on what type of work (R&D, heavy construction, specialized work) should continue to be bid out.

Overall the whole military (”defense”, LOL) sector needs to shrink, both in real terms and as a % of the federal budget.

We should also do more for people who fought–both those who were injured and those who can transition back into civilian life.

 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 09:52:49

Also:

A severe curtailment of no-bid contracts and sole source awards.

A cap on government indemnification of prime contractors against subs.

Ending the charade of Big Boyz contractors using various subsidiaries who get around limitations on doing work for foreign governments or doing U.S. mil work using foreign sites.

Ending the use of subsidiaries so that Big Boyz can bid on contracts using “small business”, “minority business”, or “veteran owned business” facades.

Probably a lot more I could think of if I wasn’t in the middle of some other things……

 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 10:05:53

LOL at comparing me to a communist. Trying to use some teabilly talking point I guess?

The U.S. government should be much smaller, should not be involved in the housing market at all (not even section 8, IMO), should barely be involved in the financial markets except to issue their own bonds, should place serious limits on college loans/funding and make decisions in a businesslike way (i.e. should seriously evaluate whether certain schools should be eligible for fed loans, vs the free-for-all we have now).

One issue where I am a socialist/communist/Marxist is healthcare. It’s idiotic to wait until age 65+ to cover people with medicare, because all you end up doing is covering up market failures. Northern European systems that have single-payer healthcare with an emphasis on primary/preventative/childhood care and also maintain private employment of physicians and private ownership of hospitals would be a good model for the U.S. This is about as close as I get to communism.

The gov’t should do less. And the things it does do, it should do much better than the half-a$$ed job is does now (infrastructure, education, health care).

 
Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 10:06:50

Those seem like reasonable ideas… which means the Neocons and the lobbyists will fight tooth and nail to never let them see the light of day.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 10:09:58

One issue where I am a socialist/communist/Marxist is healthcare. It’s idiotic to wait until age 65+ to cover people with medicare, because all you end up doing is covering up market failures. Northern European systems that have single-payer healthcare with an emphasis on primary/preventative/childhood care and also maintain private employment of physicians and private ownership of hospitals would be a good model for the U.S. This is about as close as I get to communism.

I agree with the above. Count me as another leftie-commie.

 
Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 10:39:48

See link to Time Magazine article posted below.

 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 11:23:05

I agree with the above. Count me as another leftie-commie.
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Welcome to the Kommunist Klub (TM). A lot of what I’m saying has nothing to do with private or public per se but mostly with the ham-handed way our government frames things. Both parties are heavily dependent on campaign money so… things may never change.

BTW, my riff on the reinsurance/insurance sector from the other day is also surprisingly not communist. And God bless them for following the laws–they paid tons of money to have the laws written in their favor, why would they not follow the laws? I could do a riff on reinsurance/insurance sector someday, but it would bore people to death. My first job out of college and my next job (out of L school) were doing reinsurance coverage work for clients like XL, Swiss Re, Allianz, etc. Some of it was very legit (administering self insurance policies for big corps; surplus and catastrophic coverage for utilities, big pharma companies) but a lot of if was how to get asset-owners to buy policies then move the money around so the clients can pay almost no tax while investing overseas and then having much bigger (tax advantaged) payouts to U.S. policyholders. The “I” in “FIRE” is no less aggressive than the F or the RE.

 
 
 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:22:03

I am all for a strong military. $756 dollar hammers and $436 toilet seats I am against.

Too me, there is plenty of money, they just need to stop cheating us taxpayers. I say cut it 30% and let them get lean and mean!!!

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 11:34:51

Commie rag UK Guardian echoes your anti-American exceptionalist sentiments:

http://m.guardiannews.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/20/us-military-budget-cuts-not-doomsday

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:48:11

I know the Chinese want us to keep borrowing. But we need to stop paying $876 for a toilet seat first to show we know how to play with money.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-21 05:44:20

What’s really going on in California

California imposed a new law on banks innocuously called “Homeowners Bill of Rights” which forces banks to switch over to a judicial foreclosure process, which they can opt to do on their own, but takes a year or more to renegotiate contracts and compensation structures for the foreclosure law firms who do all the leg work for the banks. And while those changes are being made… it makes it appear that foreclosures have slowed down dramatically in the state.

The reality?

Defaults (undeclared) are spiraling upward that yet have to pass through the foreclosure pipeline.

The truth?

California is still the highest foreclosure state in sheer volume and percentage.

The low-down?

Resale housing is still massively overpriced as a result of unprecedented interference by individual states and the federal government. The market distortions will be removed and the down draft will continue allowing the market to correct.

If you play with fire, you will get burned.

Comment by Blue Skye
2013-02-21 07:32:35

The thing to watch for would be Peak Foreclosures, which would signal the next leg down. These manipulations make peak foreclosures hard to identify.

 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:24:07

“If you play with fire, you will get burned.”

just not yet. But soon, really…. unless they keep inventory super low…. then….well….. shoot, I missed the boat. Banksters win again.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-21 11:44:12

Yes right now.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:38:10

I see you still haven’t spoken to anyone in San Diego trying to buy a house for under $400k.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-21 19:22:18

Indeed I have.

And further to the point. There are 7000 REO’s in San Diego alone.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2013-02-21 15:09:56

“If you play with fire, you will get burned.”

And if you post the same nonsense over and over the weak minded will believe it. Right ?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-22 05:10:37

Posting the truth stands on it’s own merit.

You realtards lying over and over again to the public haunts you.

 
 
 
Comment by Martin
2013-02-21 06:10:36

HOT topic for today should be Fed’s Exit Strategy that they said in minutes yesterday. Impact on stocks, Gold, USD etc. and on RE.

Comment by azdude
2013-02-21 06:29:52

stocks tank, interest rates up. The FED is basically printing to keep the whole system afloat.

Comment by rms
2013-02-21 07:24:43

“stocks tank, interest rates up. The FED is basically printing to keep the whole system afloat.”

Why didn’t the fed buy shares yesterday?

Comment by azdude
2013-02-21 07:51:48

Cant make it look so obvious everyday. talk about a rigged market. I wouldnt put a dime there.

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Comment by rms
2013-02-21 08:00:44

“I wouldnt put a dime there.”

+1 Ditto.

 
 
Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 08:52:41

I think the Fed can blame sequester for about 10% down. The positive or negative (depending upon who you are) the war party may agree to do something about sequester if the slide continues.

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:49:30

Yep, the crash began this week.

The only thing going up will be unemployment.

 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-02-21 06:43:06

IMO the window is open for them (”them”, meaning all the thems, all the PTB) to “do the right thing” for a year or so - until the next election raises its ugly head.

It looks to me as if this this might be the cycle: Tighten up right after the election, loosen up as the next election nears. Pain now, less pain later.

If this is the case then one should plan and act accordingly: Think and understand in macro terms, act in micro terms.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 07:36:31

…and lie like a realtor.

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 12:12:15

lie like a realtor

Investors keep on flipping, flipping, flipping
Into the future
Investors keep on flipping, flipping, flipping
Into the future

I want to lie like a realtor
To the sea
Lie like a realtor
Let my 6% carry me
I want to lie like a realtor
Till I’m free
Oh, Lord, through the closing

Feed the bankers
Who don’t have enough to eat
Enslave the renters
With no ball and chain on their feet
House the people
Livin’ in the street
Oh, oh, here’s my commission

I want to lie like a realtor
Until you bleed
Lie like a realtor
Let my 6% carry me
I want to lie like a realtor
Till I’m free
Fly to my next showing

Investors keep on flipping, flipping, flipping
Into the future
Investors keep on flipping, flipping, flipping
Into the future…

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:17:11

Remember the only ones who go to “gambler’s anonymous” for help are the losers.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 08:52:34

Which is a harder problem?

1) Withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan
2) Ending a heroin addiction
3) Weening asset markets from QE

Fed Signals Possible Slowing of QE Amid Debate Over Risks
By Joshua Zumbrun & Aki Ito - Feb 20, 2013 9:00 PM PT

Are Fed Minutes Just an Excuse for a Correction?

The Federal Reserve signaled it may consider slowing the pace of asset purchases as officials extended a debate over whether record monetary easing risks unleashing inflation or fueling asset-price bubbles.

A police officer stands outside the Federal Reserve building in Washington, D.C. Policy makers in December started debating when to halt bond buying that has pushed the Fed’s assets to more than $3 trillion, prompting warnings by some officials that the program will complicate an eventual withdrawal of stimulus. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg

Several participants at the Federal Open Market Committee’s Jan. 29-30 meeting “emphasized that the committee should be prepared to vary the pace of asset purchases, either in response to changes in the economic outlook or as its evaluation of the efficacy and costs of such purchases evolved,” according to the minutes of the gathering released yesterday.

Stocks fell, along with oil and gold, on bets the central bank will curb stimulus earlier than expected, even as several Fed officials warned against a premature end to $85 billion in monthly bond buying. A gradual reduction in purchases may win the FOMC’s support because it gives policy makers flexibility, said Michael Hanson, senior U.S. economist at Bank of America Corp. in New York.

The minutes show “tapering is a likely outcome at some point in the future,” said Hanson, a former Fed economist. “If you taper the purchases, it allows you to calibrate how the market reacts to your actions without having to go cold turkey.”

 
 
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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 09:12:53

Key point from the story:

Late last year, former employees told CBS News the company’s main goal is not to help patients — it’s to bulldoze doctors into writing prescriptions to boost profits. Former SCOOTER Store employee Brian Setzer said, “Bulldoze and get them to get the paperwork done.”

CTM special correspondent Jeff Glor asked, “So people could get those wheelchairs?”

Setzer replied, “Yes.”

“Even if they didn’t need them,” Glor said.

Setzer said, “Yeah.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 11:53:16

Again?!

This is probably the 6th story on this “industry” in as many years.

 
 
Comment by Brett
2013-02-21 08:23:28

In January, the inventory in most areas within 5mi of DT Austin has dropped over 50%…. North of DT (area 2) has seen an inventory drop of 76.5%

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I have been hearing the phrase “it seems like there are not many homes on the market”. And the truth is there is not. In fact, the last time we has less than 6 thousand homes on the market was in 2001. Compared to January 2012 the amount of inventory is down 28.5%.

The inventory seems to have fallen more in central Austin. Here are the drops in inventory for the central Austin mls areas.

10N - Down 56.7%
10S - Down 58.1%
1B - Down 38.3%
2 - Down 76.5%
4 - Down 50.0%
6 - Down 63.2%
7 - Down 43.8%

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 08:52:16

Amazing isn’t it. From Michigan to Florida to California and all points in between, we’re told there just aren’t many houses for sale. This in spite of ownership percentages falling for years now. Oh, and prices are up everywhere too. Let’s take a look at a press release:

‘A typical seasonal slowdown, combined with a scarcity of available homes for sale put a damper on the California housing market in January, with both home sales and median price declining from December, the CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS(R) (C.A.R.) reported. The statewide median price of an existing, single-family detached home fell 8.1 percent from December’s $366,930 median price to $337,040 in January. January’s price was up 24.1 percent from a revised $271,490 recorded in January 2012, marking the 11th consecutive month of annual price increases and the seventh consecutive month of double-digit annual gains.’

“The drop in the median price from December to January is in line with the seasonal pattern that we’ve observed in recent years, when the sales share of lower-priced homes usually increases at the start of the year,” said C.A.R. Vice President and Chief Economist Leslie Appleton-Young. “For example, homes priced under $200,000 made up 28 percent of sales in January, up from 25 percent in December. Conversely, homes priced $500,000 and higher made up nearly 24 percent of sales in January, down from nearly 28 percent in December.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/continued-shortage-of-homes-on-the-market-and-seasonal-slowdown-send-california-home-sales-and-prices-lower-in-january-car-reports-2013-02-21

So the mix of houses is responsible for the decline in the median. Funny how they only mention this when it falls and not when it goes up. As a matter of fact, the other day I posted a quote from the builders economist stating that the sale of higher priced houses was responsible for the increase in the median in new houses and existing houses.

Like always, we have to question everything that comes out of this industry. Remember when the used house salespeople announced they had over counted sales for years and by adjusting the previous numbers down, we were now seeing an increase in sales? Remember this?

‘As many as 90 percent of REOs are withheld from sale, according to estimates recently provided to AOL Real Estate by two analytics firms. Online foreclosure marketplace RealtyTrac recently found that just 15 percent of REOs in the Washington, D.C., area were for sale, a statistic that is representative of nationwide numbers, the company said. Analytics firm CoreLogic provided an even lower estimate, suggesting that just 10 percent of all REOs in the country are listed by their owners, which include mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well as the Federal Housing Administration. As of April 2012, 390,000 repossessed homes sat in limbo, while about 39,000 were actually listed for sale, said Sam Khater, senior economist at CoreLogic.’

‘Daren Blomquist, vice president of RealtyTrac, said that he was surprised by his company’s finding, especially since a similar analysis in 2009 found that banks were attempting to sell nearly twice as much of their REO inventory back then.’

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/07/13/shadow-reo-as-much-as-90-percent-of-foreclosed-properties-are-h/

Comment by Brett
2013-02-21 09:56:16

Something I’ve learned over the years of reading your blog is;
‘It’s always a good time to buy’.

Realtors have always a positive spin for what’s going on in the market!

Prices are low? Good time to buy!
Prices are high! Good time to guy!
Interest rates are low? Good time to buy!
High interest rates? Good time to buy!
Low inventory? Good time to buy!
High inventory? Good time to buy!

Btw… A friend of mine who recently became a realtor (2 years ago) isnt able to keep up with work! And it’s paying off! He just upgraded his car to a Mercedes Benz CLS550

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 10:33:12

‘Realtors have always a positive spin’

You ain’t kidding. Check out the affordability in Calgary:

‘Calgary’s residential housing market is poised for expansion in 2013, with move-up buyers set to lead the charge, says a report released Thursday by RE/MAX. The report said the 10-year appreciation in average house prices for residential properties in the city and area was 108 per cent going from $198,350 in 2002 to $412,315 last year.’

‘By comparison, average house prices across Canada jumped by 93 per cent during the same period from $188,164 to $363,740.’

‘Canadian confidence in home ownership continues to fuel homebuying activity, particularly in the move-up segment,” said Elton Ash, regional executive vice-president for RE/MAX of Western Canada. “Equity gains have been a primary driver, with return on investment exceptionally strong in the past decade. In fact, the Prairies have seen a substantial upswing in housing values between 2002 and 2012, yet prices remain surprisingly affordable.’

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/real-estate/Calgary+area+average+house+prices+jump+over+years/7995777/story.html

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Comment by Pete
2013-02-21 20:01:24

“The report said the 10-year appreciation in average house prices for residential properties in the city and area was 108 per cent going from $198,350 in 2002 to $412,315 last year.’

A report like this always reminds me of this hilarious site that someone here linked to over a year ago. Still there, and still funny:

(Excerpt): But as we all know, the economic law of 20% minimum appreciation continued to work it’s magic. And once he realized he was wrong it was too late. He was priced out. Forever. Oh how bitter a pill that is for Patrick to swallow.

http://thereisnohousingbubble.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-21 10:42:13

How can this be?

The truth?

Housing sales are at 1997 levels…. and falling.

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Comment by ahansen
2013-02-21 13:08:06

It can “be” because real estate syndicates own an increasing percentage of the low-cost housing in this country, renting it to the same people who were displaced by foreclosure. These syndicates have no intention of putting it on the market for sale.

Just got a post this morning from an aging friend in Falls Church VA. who’s rented the same house for the last 11 years since retirement. His landlady gave him one week’s notice that the house will be foreclosed March 1, and told him he needs to find a new place to live. Pronto.

Not surprisingly, he tells me available rents are significantly higher than what he’s been paying….

 
Comment by polly
2013-02-21 13:32:15

Hate to say it, but he is going to have to downsize or move out of the “commute zone” or to an area with much worse schools or some combo of the three. It is too bad. Close to a city like DC with lots of interesting, cheap stuff to do is great for retired people.

 
Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-21 14:00:26

It can “be” because real estate syndicates own an increasing percentage of the low-cost housing in this country, renting it to the same people who were displaced by foreclosure. These syndicates have no intention of putting it on the market for sale.

A society of renters with REITs owning the majority of housing is the rentiers’ wet dream.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2013-02-21 14:48:31

Slim that BS, you know……

He should see a lawyer pronto. the landlady is up to no good…

A sheriff cant lock the tenant out of a house or have the utilities cut unless he is named on that eviction notice and lost in court.

His landlady gave him one week’s notice that the house will be foreclosed March 1, and told him he needs to find a new place to live. Pronto.

 
Comment by cactus
2013-02-21 22:03:09

Just got a post this morning from an aging friend in Falls Church VA. who’s rented the same house for the last 11 years since retirement. His landlady gave him one week’s notice that the house will be foreclosed March 1, and told him he needs to find a new place to live. Pronto.”

isn’t renting great

I was given 60 days that’s the law in CA. Was able to finish buying a short sale with 12 hours to spare

after screwing around for 6 months

landlords were moving from texas so they would not extend but I did get my deposit back

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2013-02-21 22:29:57

If he fights the eviction, he may gain 30 days to find another place.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-02-21 11:47:14

He just upgraded his car to a Mercedes Benz CLS550

I know a few realtors and from what they tell me its slim pickings. No Benzes for them. The low end stuff sells here, but there isn’t much of it available and a lot of realtors fight over being the listing agent.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 12:16:37

A friend is a newly minted real estate agent in the San Diego market. One of her laments is the lack of inventory.

Sotto voce: I don’t think that real estate was a good career choice for this friend. Because she doesn’t handle rejection or other business setbacks well at all.

I can’t say that I’m a pro at this sort of thing, but I do know that when somebody turns you down for a freelance gig, you get your smilin’ and dialin’ face on and start prospecting for other work.

And, if people don’t call you back, well, par for the course. Keep calling. Eventually, the work will come. You have to keep hunting for it, but it will come.

I tried to tell my friend these things when she was a PR consultant, but it just didn’t register.

 
 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 14:07:31

What city is he in? What I hear from the Realturds I know, is that there are too many Realtors, not enough inventory to go around.

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Comment by Brett
2013-02-21 16:28:19

Austin, TX

 
 
 
Comment by Neuromance
2013-02-21 10:24:10

From Michigan to Florida to California and all points in between, we’re told there just aren’t many houses for sale. This in spite of ownership percentages falling for years now.

What amazes me is that the government uses NAR figures instead of collecting its own. It has the figures. It knows when a house is sold, it tracks who to tax very, very closely.

The government collects vast amounts of data on all sorts of things, but this is a big weakness.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 10:41:53

The Census Bureau collects and publishes this data.

‘The home ownership rate declined yet again in the fourth quarter of 2012, according to a new report from the U.S. Census today. It now stands at 65.4 percent, down from 66 percent a year ago and from a high of 69.2 percent in 2004. If you include the 5.3 million borrowers who are delinquent on their mortgages or in the foreclosure process, per Lender Processing Services, the real home ownership rate is even lower.’

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/guess-whos-driving-demand-apartments-172703548.html

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 11:19:41

Historically, the U.S. homeownership rate has fluctuated between 62% and 66%. Which means that the rate is declining back to historic levels.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 13:33:50

“If you include the 5.3 million borrowers who are delinquent on their mortgages or in the foreclosure process, per Lender Processing Services, the real home ownership rate is even lower.”

Aren’t foreclosure protection laws now in place to protect these 5.3 million delinquent borrowers from foreclosure?

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-21 17:26:47

The 5.3 million includes people who have missed 1 payment. It also includes people who haven’t made a payment in 4+ years.

This number is never 0. As I’ve posted before, “normal” is approximately 5% (this is from LPS, the same source that quotes the 5.3 million), which would be approximately 2.5 million loans in this category.

So, we’re talking about going from 5.3 million to 2.5 million, an excess of 2.8 million to burn off…one way (foreclosure sales), or another (short sales, cures, modifications).

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-02-21 19:27:34

““normal” is approximately 5% ”

You are a LIAR

Typical is a number less than 1.5%. NOT 5.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2013-02-21 13:20:46

MarketWatch won’t let me post now unless I email them a copy of a government issued ID. Really? WTF?? Of course there isn’t any way to delete your account.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 13:35:32

They banned me from posting a couple of years ago because I was too unruly for them.

They probably didn’t much care for my handle, either (”FedCake” with an image of Marie Antoinette).

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 13:43:26

Too unruly? I resemble that remark!

 
Comment by MiddleCoaster
2013-02-21 16:13:25

I got banned from a non-political, totally benign social website a number of years back. It took this blog, and certain comments regarding bannable offenses, to make me realize I had criticized the moderators. The horror, the horror…

 
Comment by rms
2013-02-21 18:09:03

I was acting civilized too. Shocked, shocked I say!

 
 
Comment by PeakHubris
2013-02-21 21:28:35

Marketwatch commenting sucks now anyway. They took away the red thumbs. They took away historical posts. They took away just about everything that was good. F**k Marketwatch.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 08:59:17

Home sales edge up in ’seller’s market’
Ray Goldbacher, USA TODAY10:32a.m. EST February 21, 2013

Sales of previously owned homes edged up in January, held back by a shortage of homes for sale, according to the National Association of Realtors.

Single-family home sales increased 0.2% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.34 million in January vs. 4.33 million in December, and 8.5% above the 4 million-unit level in January 2012.

The median single-family home price was $174,100 in January, up 12.6% from a year ago.

Lawrence Yun , NAR chief economist, said tight inventory is a problem and, as a result, “We’ve transitioned into a seller’s market in much of the country.”

“Buyer traffic is continuing to pick up, while seller traffic is holding steady,” he said. “In fact, buyer traffic is 40% above a year ago, so there is plenty of demand but insufficient inventory to improve sales more strongly.”

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 09:08:08

‘“It is outstanding to hear that the number of foreclosures starting in our state has nosedived since the California Homeowner’s Bill of Rights has been enacted,” Senator Mark DeSaulnier (D-Concord) said. According to RealtyTrac, the number of California homes that started on the path to foreclosure in January is down 75 percent from a year earlier.’

http://blog.sfgate.com/incontracosta/2013/02/17/senator-desaulnier-comments-on-california%E2%80%99s-foreclosure-numbers/

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 09:12:45

Isn’t this akin to applauding the day when your intestinal tract develops a case of severe constipation?

One thing seems certain: Eventually this thing is gonna blow.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-21 09:24:38

Or we’re going to need a lot of bulldozers.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 12:45:31

“Or we’re going to need a lot of bulldozers.”

= jobs, economic stimulus, etc.

 
Comment by PeakHubris
2013-02-21 21:31:03

This massive inventory manipulation seems North Korea’esque.

 
 
Comment by hazard
2013-02-21 17:18:41

“Our goal with the Homeowner’s Bill of Rights was to help families who are losing their homes through no fault of their own, and it is clear that our efforts are starting to pay off. These common-sense solutions are already helping working families in California keep their homes. One such solution requires lenders to provide a “single point of contact” for homeowners to work with as they seek a loan modification or alternatives to foreclosure. These reforms will ensure that working Californians have the ability to responsibly navigate the loan modification and foreclosure process,” Desaulnier said.”

Albert Hammond - It never rains in southern California + … - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMEEvmfyQU - 236k

Seems they don`t foreclose in southern California
Seems I’ve often heard that kind of talk before
They don`t foreclose in California
But girl don’t they warn ya
You have the ability to responsibly navigate the loan modification and foreclosure process

Out of work, I’m out of my head
Out of self respect, I’m out of bread
I’m underloved, I’m underfed, I wanna free home
They don`t foreclose in California
But girl don’t they warn ya
Families who are losing their homes through no fault of their own have reforms which give them the ability to responsibly navigate the loan modification and foreclosure process

[Instrumental Interlude]

Will you tell Mark DeSaulnier (D-Concord) I nearly made it
Had offers but didn’t know which one to take
Please don’t tell him how you found me
Don’t tell him how you found me
Gimme a break, give me a break

Seems they don`t foreclose in southern California
Seems I’ve often heard that kind of talk before
They don`t foreclose in California
But girl don’t they warn ya
You have the ability to responsibly navigate the loan modification and foreclosure process

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Comment by Rental Watch
2013-02-21 17:38:14

Per Foreclosure Radar, there have been approximately 150k homes in preforeclosure, or scheduled for sale generally over the past year. At the same time, the average time to foreclose was about 9 months. By that math, approximately 1/9th of the homes should have either sold to a third party or foreclosed each month…this would be about 16k homes.

However, only about 7-9k each month were sold to third parties, or went back to the bank…so, what happened to the other 7-9k homes?

Answer? They left the foreclosure process by another method…short sale, loan modification, etc. The only way they could have left via short sale while in the foreclosure process, is if the bank was dual tracking.

This practice is now banned.

So, a large percentage of the decrease in new foreclosure filings is from banks no longer dual tracking (since that is banned by the new law)…it doesn’t mean they won’t come to resolution on delinquent loans, it just means they won’t have the leverage of a foreclosure processing to do so.

Watch the number of non-current loans in CA. If the number of non-current loans continues to decline at the same rate, then we can conclude that the new law has changed the way the banks are processing the distressed inventory, but isn’t changing the fact that resolutions are being found.

If non-current loan rates stop going down, or start going up, then you can conclude that the law is stopping up the pipes.

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:18:33

Banksters: control the inventory, control the price.

Just like refineries and gasoline.

 
 
Comment by Spook
2013-02-21 08:41:58

Regarding yesterdays discussion of The Blue Angels and military airshows… The reason there is no good substitute for attending them is because there is no good way to reproduce the sound made by these machines.

Thats really the best part.

In the film world, every good editor knows “sound is half the picture”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 08:55:46

Manufacturing in the Philadelphia Region Unexpectedly Shrinks
By Michelle Jamrisko - Feb 21, 2013 7:05 AM PT

Manufacturing in the Philadelphia region unexpectedly contracted in February for a second month.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia’s general economic index dropped to minus 12.5, the lowest reading since June, from minus 5.8 in January. Readings lower than zero signal contraction in the area covering eastern Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey and Delaware. The median forecast of 58 economists surveyed by Bloomberg projected an increase to 1.

The reading follows New York Fed data released last week that showed factory activity rebounded after six months of contraction, raising prospects that factories could contribute to expansion this year. At the same time, unresolved fiscal policy negotiations and the January increase in payroll taxes may convince companies to hold the line on stockpiles, trimming orders to manufacturers.

“There are some conflicting signals here and there, but overall the sector should improve,” Yelena Shulyatyeva, a U.S. economist at BNP Paribas in New York, said before the report. “World growth should pick up marginally this year, and that should be supportive of manufacturing in the U.S.”

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 11:59:50

No, no, no! All that matters are that government contractors may not get all the gravy they think they should and this will destroy the economy!!

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 12:52:26

Commie talk!

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 09:04:02

Let me get this argument straight: After years of QE1, QE2 and QE3, jobless claims are up and inflationary pressures are building. Thus QE is working and we clearly need to keep the QE pedal to the metal for a few more years.

Jobless Claims Move Up; Inflation Pressure Builds
Published: Thursday, 21 Feb 2013 | 10:01 AM ET

More Americans than expected filed new claims for jobless aid last week and consumer prices were slightly higher in January, supporting the argument for the Federal Reserve to maintain its very accommodative monetary policy stance.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits increased 20,000 to a seasonally adjusted 362,000, the Labor Department said on Thursday.

It said in a second report that consumer prices were flat for a second consecutive month in January though they rose 0.3 percent excluding food and energy. The data comes amid growing signs of divisions at the Federal Reserve over its bond buying program aimed to stimulate the sluggish economic recovery.

“The job market is gradually improving but not fast enough for the Fed to remove accommodation. We still think a Fed rate hike is a late 2014 to early 2015 event,” said Jacob Oubina, a senior economist at RBC Capital Markets in New York.

Comment by michael
2013-02-21 10:48:35

jobs created…and SAVED…remember?

 
Comment by measton
2013-02-21 11:22:57

Most of the QE benefit has gone to a small # of hands.

The problem is there is rising productivity and falling demand and thus rising unemployment. The central banks and gov and elites solution is to increase cash flow to the elite with the hope that they will invest in in production.

Does anyone see a problem here? We don’t need more factories or production because there is no demand.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 12:04:26

Self fulling prophecies have a way coming back around and putting the posterior hurt on ya.

Marie Antoinette didn’t get it either.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 09:06:52

Military Spending
Sequestration is for Sissies: $6.9 Billion More for the F-22
By Mark Thompson
Feb. 21, 2013

Raptor in flight
Air Force photo / Tech. Sgt. Dana Rosso
An F-22 Raptor flies over Alaska Jan. 5.

Pentagon officials took to PBS and the Pentagon press room to warn Wednesday about the impending sequester’s impact on military spending.

“We’re really trying to keep on protecting the country and delivering the defense under these circumstances,” Deputy Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on the PBS NewsHour Wednesday evening. “In some cases, that’s not going to be possible.” On March 1, assuming no White-House-congressional deal on a $1.2 trillion deficit reduction package over the coming decade, more than $500 billion in Pentagon cuts will kick in automatically, including a $46 billion cut between March 1 and October 1.

“Two-thirds of the Army active combat brigade teams, other than those that are currently deployed, would be at below acceptable levels of readiness,” Pentagon money chief Robert Hale said. “It could affect their ability to deploy to a new contingency, if one occurred, or if this goes on long enough, even to Afghanistan.”

Yet slightly more than an hour before Carter appeared on television, the Air Force slipped Lockheed Martin a little something extra to keep their fleet of F-22s flying:

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded an indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract (FA8611-13-D-2850) with a ceiling of $6,900,000,000 for F-22 modernization…This award is a result of a sole source acquisition.

One doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry. The F-22 program has become a parody of itself, and of all that is wrong and warped in the military-industrial complex.

Comment by bink
2013-02-21 14:09:58

I had quite a laugh listening to a General being interviewed on the radio the other day about sequestration and how it would drop the military below appropriate “readiness” levels. Apparently fighting terrorists in mud huts requires more “readiness”/money than being on constant alert for World War 3 with the Soviet Union.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-21 14:13:05

When most of the money goes toward exotic weapons systems made back in the home district and that sort of thing, your readiness can actually get amazingly low for the amount of money spent.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-02-21 09:08:49

Lessons of dot-com bubble, which burst 13 years ago

Commentary: The demise of the Internet bubble will be “celebrated,” ironically enough, on almost the same day as the bull market’s fourth birthday, reports Mark Hulbert, teasing out three big takeways.

Comment by michael
2013-02-21 10:47:26

no…no…no…forget about that pesky dot.com bubble…it’s all bush’s fault.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:20:27

I tried to tell Reagan, ya cant spend more than ya bring in!

He ignored me, and tripled the deficit.

Comment by michael
2013-02-21 12:24:51

balanced budget = economic calamity

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 14:22:47

Clinton!

 
Comment by michael
2013-02-21 14:40:57

Obama!

 
Comment by Michael Viking
2013-02-21 14:44:42

I thought budgets came out of congress…? So shouldn’t congress get the credit/blame rather than the president?

 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 15:07:10

Yes and no. Clinton kicked arse because he actually used his veto.

Obama, gets nothing from congress, they wont vote on anything these days.

 
Comment by Michael Viking
2013-02-21 16:25:20

Yes and no. Clinton kicked arse because he actually used his veto.

Obama, gets nothing from congress, they wont vote on anything these days.

It seems like you’re cherry picking. Reagan and Bush Senior both had more vetoes than Clinton. Why did Clinton “kick arse” but Reagan and Bush didn’t? And aren’t vetoes typically related to having opposing parties in each office (explaining why Obama has so few, for example)?

I don’t find your “he kicked arse because he actually used his veto” a very compelling argument for the “no” part of your “Yes and no” response.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2013-02-21 19:07:33

Well maybe what he’s asking for is so stupid and ignorant…they laugh at ohbewanna.

He seems to have the wrong answer for everything…..but so do the repubs….

I mean kicking DEADBEAT homeowners to the curb shouldn’t be controversial since many have not paid the mortgage in years.

Ohbewanna would get a thumbs up from me….

Obama, gets nothing from congress

 
 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 10:51:13

Never mind that stocks are already sliding…here are your seven warning signs:

Seven warning signs say stocks are about to slide

Commentary: Everything is going swimmingly on Wall Street, right? Maybe not, writes Jeff Reeves, who points to seven signs that the stock market, in fact, is perched on a perilous precipice.

Comment by rms
2013-02-21 19:04:13

Look at the comments. Posters now have names, no more handles like Fahrenheit451.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 12:06:59

The lesson we should really be learning is the Savings & Loan disaster from 20 years ago.

Comment by localandlord
2013-02-21 19:21:01

Despite being a backwater, Locaville was at the forefront of the Savings and Loan disaster. 30 years ago this month.

The lesson we learned was “Bankstas go to Jail”. The two tallest buildings in town are a monument to their excesses.

 
Comment by Mugsy
2013-02-22 00:26:39

Remember when people were actually outraged that the taxpayers would have to act to make those S&L’s creditors whole again? Wow, those were the days!

Comment by localandlord
2013-02-22 05:21:03

And the shareholders lost their “equity”. What a concept! Only the depositors got paid. Well except for a “banking corporation” the bankstas set up. I remember watching TV one evening when, seriously, every other commercial was a jingle enticing savers to deposit money. The next day the feds came in and the money went poof.

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Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 09:23:32

As recently posted on Zerohedge:

Wal-Mart: “Families Are Adjusting To A Reduced Paycheck And Increased Gas Prices”

We are confident that our low prices will continue to resonate, as families adjust to a reduced paycheck and increased gas prices,”

However, February sales started slower than planned, due in large part, to the delay in income tax refunds. We began seeing increased tax refund check activity late last week in our stores, resulting in a more normalized weekly sales pattern for this time of the year.

So there you have it. Obama and the Democrats promised no tax hikes on the middle class leading up to the 2012 election. Barely into Obama’s second term, the middle and lower class see a tax hike. The amusing thing is it takes a corporation like Walmart to show the empirical proof. So what do our resident Democrats have to say? I’d guess it’s something like “The expiration of the payroll tax cut wasn’t raising taxes because it was just temporary”. Tell that to all the families “adjusting to a reduced paycheck”.

And about those higher gas prices… as recently discussed on NPR, why are Democrats, aligned with environmentalists, fighting the Keystone Pipeline tooth and nail and trying to promote higher gas prices while the lower and middle class suffer from high gas prices?

Because progressive ideology is more important than hard-working people being able to get to jobs and buy groceries.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-02-21 09:56:05

The amusing thing is it takes a corporation like Walmart to show the empirical proof.

Did you read your own article?

February sales started slower than planned, due in large part, to the delay in income tax refunds

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 10:12:58

Yes, Walmart tries to lay the blame “in large part” on a delay in income tax refunds… Obviously they are trying to tell their investors that a one-time event is the cause of the slowdown in Feb and not their customers “adjusting to lower paychecks and higher gas prices”.

If it isn’t a one-time event, then analyst estimates would need to be adjusted downward…

Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-02-21 10:19:32

Oh, I thought you said something about Walmart showing the empirical truth.

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Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 12:53:10

Oh, I thought you said something about Walmart showing the empirical truth.

I did and they did, in releasing data regarding February being the slowest start they have seen in many years. That’s the data I was referring to. As to their explanation, well, they have shareholders and a board of directors to answer to, so the truth is in there, you just have to read between the lines.

 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 10:21:04

progressive ideology

The erosion of living standards for most working Americans will continue regardless of the party in control. Wealth will continue to accumulate to the 0.1%. Within a few decades, less than 15% of USA worker bees will enjoy a middle-class or better lifestyle.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-02-21 11:53:19

So what do our resident Democrats have to say? I’d guess it’s something like “The expiration of the payroll tax cut wasn’t raising taxes because it was just temporary”. Tell that to all the families “adjusting to a reduced paycheck”.

The SS tax holiday was a terrible idea. There was no way for it to expire without causing pain. And it had to expire at some point in time.

But tell us, what would you propose? Making the tax holiday permanent and covering the shortfall with borrowing and bigger deficits?

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 13:03:18

But tell us, what would you propose? Making the tax holiday permanent and covering the shortfall with borrowing and bigger deficits?

Yes to the first part and no to the second. Lower taxes and less government spending is my answer. I’m in the “shrink the Federal government” group. It’s our money, not the government’s.

Before Polly chimes in with “Well that’s a great idea, but what government programs would you cut?”, my answer is the following: DHS, BATF, DoE, DoA, DoD, NOAA, EPA, NSA, CIA, IRS, etc. Oh, and throw in Medicare and Social Security as well… I don’t particularly care if selfish, head-up-their-bums-for-the-last-30-years boomers get taken to the woodshed because they lived large and now the bill has to be paid.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 14:04:53

Cut every acronym.

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Comment by Mo Money
2013-02-21 15:15:02

“my answer is the following: DHS, BATF, DoE, DoA, DoD, NOAA, EPA, NSA, CIA, IRS, etc. Oh, and throw in Medicare and Social Security as well…”

So you’re a moron, good to know.

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Comment by polly
2013-02-21 16:15:42

You might say that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

 
Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 20:58:38

Of course not… You work for the beast I’m advocating we starve.

As to the moron comment, well, it seems we hit a nerve. Are you a government employee or contractor? No? Receiving benefits then? Or maybe just a sheep who enjoys being sheared by the Feds…

 
Comment by polly
2013-02-21 21:54:21

So, you didn’t get the reference, did you? As I expected. I don’t see you as much of a culture person. Too hard to prevent apoplexy when you consider that it might have some tiny trace of a government subsidy.

 
 
 
Comment by skroodle
2013-02-21 16:04:32

You could also cut SS payments 2%.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2013-02-21 13:26:03

“Tell that to all the families “adjusting to a reduced paycheck”.”

I dunno, they adjusted pretty well to that increased paycheck, without complaint. And of course, prices rose to absorb the cash available. I have been harping on this for YEARS.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 09:37:51

Avoiding mortgage albatross hamster wheel debt slavery:

“Young American adults have pared the amount they owe on homes, cars and credit cards in the wake of the recession, shedding debt almost four times faster than their elders, a survey shows. College loans are an exception.

From 2007 to 2010, which includes the 18-month slump that was the longest recession since World War II, median debt for young households fell to $15,473, a 29 percent decline. Median debt for older households dipped to $30,070, an 8 percent drop.

The share of younger homeowners fell from 40 percent to 34 percent while their median housing debt dropped $127,914 (should that be to $127,914?)

Millennial households with college-degree recipients reported median debt of $114,504, about 63 percent of all debt for their generation. Households led by young people with some college had a median debt of $25,088, about 19 percent of the total. High-school graduates owed a median of $18,259, or 16 percent.”

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-21/millenials-shed-debt-faster-than-older-americans.html

Comment by Neuromance
2013-02-21 10:28:51

The path to prosperity* is via borrowing and printing money, and more debt.

* Prosperity for Wall Street at least.

 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:29:59

goon - have you ever owned a home? how old are you? what city are you in ? what is your education?

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 11:44:41

We have never inked our name to a thirty year note. Our experience with loanownership was living with the ex-squadette in a house she already bought before we moved in, contributing financially to the mortgage, and contributing (an excessive amount of) time and effort to maintenance.

DOB approximate to time of Reagan’s “Morning in America”.

BA, liberal arts, Football Factory State University.

MBA, Flyover State University.

Comment by michael
2013-02-21 12:21:52

i went to “wannabe footbal factory state university”.

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:29:14

Sorry to hear that. I have owned 3 homes since 1989. I only made about $350k in profits in total.
Only one was a fixer. Bought in 2005 for $300k from a neighbor with a LIAR loan. (no realturd). Sold in 2009, YES as late as 2009 for $459k. Spent $40k on re-hab. Worth $376k today per zillow.
too each his own.
And I am very good at Excel, but no MBA! ;)

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Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 12:38:01

‘I only made about $350k in profits in total’

And this being the internet, of course it must be true.

 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:42:41

I’ll prove it. But it will cost you if I do.

My first place was bought in 1989 in so cal, 1.5 miles from the beach, sold in 2003. that should help.

Wanna wager? $500?

 
Comment by michael
2013-02-21 12:43:12

i made infinity k.

 
Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 12:46:51

Sorry to hear that. I have owned 3 homes since 1989

Only 3? I have owned 7 homes since 2000 and already profited cool $1.712 million. I still have 2 more to sell.

 
Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 14:24:08

but you are full of shite, I am not. $500 bets? any takers. We can let ahansen be the escrow and judge.

 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 14:39:40

Why wouldn’t you make the bet much larger if you know you’d win?

When people make me prove things, I always offer to bet any amount they want. It’s free money, so why not?

 
Comment by michael
2013-02-21 14:44:00

i made some money on housing…no need to say how much or even prove it.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-02-21 16:25:44

‘i made some money on housing’

And I found a ten dollar bill when I was six years old. The point is avocado, who gives a crap?

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-02-21 22:48:18

Ha… I found TWENTY when I was only EIGHT years old!

 
 
 
 
Comment by snowgirl
2013-02-21 13:32:04

Considering the cost of an education these days many may have simply traded in their home ownership potential for that education. I hope that “investment” is worth it. Your results may vary.

Ok, mini rant: If people in any numbers just said, “No, I’m not paying this”, the teetering education loan system would most likely quickly collapse. Perhaps corporations would revert back to training again. You can pay so little money and still make employees happy when they don’t have any debt. But, no, the hamster wheel says compete w/your neighbor, so they jump on board even as they curse the system like a sailor walking the plank. There’s so little creative thinking out there.

Comment by oxide
2013-02-21 13:43:07

It’s the Tragedy of the Commons. It’s a bad system, it’s going to die, and you know it, but you have no choice.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-02-21 14:11:01

Considering the cost of an education these days many may have simply traded in their home ownership potential for that education.

It used to be they could have both. But now there can only be one. But still housing can only go up. Hmmmm.

But on a side note I can’t see any way short of much higher taxation that corporations can avoid eventually having to train again. Each worker has only one lifetime worth of earnings to sign away and it seems to be worth less all the time.

 
Comment by michael
2013-02-21 14:48:34

“Ok, mini rant: If people in any numbers just said, “No, I’m not paying this”, the teetering education loan system would most likely quickly collapse. Perhaps corporations would revert back to training again.”

using a standard college type workload i could put together a program to produce qualified accountants in 2 years…we way over-value that “well rounded” education.

make it an intensive study program and it could be done in a year or less.

i am sure there are a ton of 4-year trades that could be done the same way.

that useless western civ class is way…way…way…over-rated.

Comment by Montana
2013-02-21 16:19:43

True, we’ve got vocational training and traditional liberal arts all confounded together. Business school for example should probably be an entirely separate thing.

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Comment by Mugsy
2013-02-22 00:29:59

“College loans are an exception.”

Great. No cherry picking of data there huh?

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 10:13:44

Very loooonnggg piece from Time Magazine on USA “free market” health care system:

“Taken as a whole, these powerful institutions and the bills they churn out dominate the nation’s economy and put demands on taxpayers to a degree unequaled anywhere else on earth. In the U.S., people spend almost 20% of the gross domestic product on health care, compared with about half that in most developed countries. Yet in every measurable way, the results our health care system produces are no better and often worse than the outcomes in those countries.

According to one of a series of exhaustive studies done by the McKinsey & Co. consulting firm, we spend more on health care than the next 10 biggest spenders combined: Japan, Germany, France, China, the U.K., Italy, Canada, Brazil, Spain and Australia.”

http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/20/bitter-pill-why-medical-bills-are-killing-us/

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 10:35:49

Also from the article:

“the pharmaceutical and health-care product industries, combined with organizations representing doctors, hospitals, nursing homes, health services and HMO’s, have spent $5.36 billion since 1998 on lobbying in Washington. That dwarfs the $1.53 billion spent by the defense and aerospace industries and the $1.3 billion spent by oil and gas interests over the same period. That’s right: the health-care industrial complex spends more than three times what the military-industrial complex spends in Washington.”

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 11:47:52

We have to defend our “private” health insurance system !!!!! The money is totally worth it. “Best system in the world.” Duh.

 
 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 11:45:14

I know you already know this, but pointing this out for others –

Medicare, the “government” program, is administered largely by private contractors. They bid on “MAC” contracts, which are absolutely massive. The country is divided into different jurisdictions (they used to be numbered, but now they are lettered, from roughly A-J). And most of the payment approval, provider enrollment, etc is authorized by private contractors. Some of the big defense contractors have been buying health care administrative contractors up so they can get into this business.

Again, this is another area where we allow the private market to handle relatively younger, healthier, employed people (much lower rates of serious health proboems) and let the government bail out the system at the back end when people reach old age. And we let that system be largely administered by private companies.

It’s bastardized capitalism. I can see arguments for having the gov’t not involved in health care at all, or conversely, having them provide a single payer system. I really don’t get how anyone could defend the current system which has the worst aspects of both gov’t and private sectors.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 12:09:58

If market tanks like this for another couple of days, I can see a “grand sequester deal” done by the 28th.

Chicken$hit politicians….they have to keep the con going as long as possible.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 12:11:32

How?

P.T. Barnum said it best: “There’s one born every minute.”

We have the government we deserve.

Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 12:45:23

Since it is “ours.” Can I call him, “my Boehner?”

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Comment by ahansen
2013-02-21 13:18:52

“His Weeping Orange HIghness”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 15:45:44

You don’t already?! :lol:

 
 
 
Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 12:38:45

There are currently 15 A/B Mac jurisdictions.

If you want to know who *really* runs Medicare where you live, look here:

http://www.entnet.org/Practice/MAC-websites.cfm

It lists the private corporation that runs each region.

 
Comment by measton
2013-02-21 13:34:22

BINGO Well said

If your going to have a public private partnership then it should be well regulated and profits and ceo pay capped. But the best solution is either no gov health care which will immediately lead to massive #’s of uninsured and the spread of communicable disease or a single payer system.

Comment by joe smith
2013-02-21 14:54:48

I actually don’t agree that they need to cap bonuses or compensation. In fact, I think that would screw up the incentives even more. A lot of the “fixes” we should do are much less “top down control” and yet more profound.

The crux of the problem with the Medicare thing is, the private providers aren’t actually the ones who pay the bills. They handle many other things (the vast majority of the admin) but when it comes to bills, they just bundle them and forward them for payment (in electronic form, of course). They are the ultimate middlemen - private enough that they can reap outsized rewards for executives yet public enough that they are relatively unconcerned with budget constraints (Neither their own overhead/expenses nor the medical bills they approve for payment). Any time there is a problem with their performance, they can easily afford to hire a big law firm and tie up the government for months/years until they back down or accept a weak settlement. And when they bid, they like to “overpromise”. I can’t go into detail, but we have a client who is an incumbent on a MAC and lost the bid to another contractor. Both of these contractors have other jurisdictions as well, so they both have strong arguments, but it is pretty clear that the winning bid was under-estimating their costs and overpromising on some of their IT innovations.

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Comment by Montana
2013-02-21 16:22:08

having them provide a single payer system.

The govt would probably still outsource to the insurance companies to run the thing.

Comment by localandlord
2013-02-21 19:43:29

I found it verrry interesting that 3 days after the Supreme court ruling I recieved a letter stating my Obamacare public option policy was now being administered by United Health care. Previously it was an obscure company I’d never heard of.

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Comment by Spook
2013-02-21 10:46:15

I don’t know if this article is legit or an example of white fear mongering but either way, I can’t dismiss it because part of white culture is to be pre-emptive.

Its actually a characteristic of smart culture, but Im calling it white culture because most people need to see a behavior presented in someone else, before they can see it in themselves, and Im a black person.

For example, the best way to do something is always the best way to do something; thats why people often end up doing things the same way (until someone comes up with a better way)

http://eradica.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/the-new-shooting-targets-federal-agencies-will-using-as-target-practice/

Comment by goon squad
 
2013-02-21 12:38:23

YES! White people as targets
On shadowy govt agency gun ranges
Is racist toward the blacks

 
Comment by cactus
2013-02-21 12:53:07

A company called Law Enforcement Targets, Inc. has created a new set of cardboard cut-outs that will be used by the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies as target practice.

The new shooting targets are titled as ”non-traditional threats” and depict pregnant women, mothers, children, and the elderly (every single one of whom is white by the way) as potential dangers to society.”

Is this true or a joke web site ?

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 15:47:34

True. The story came out several months ago.

 
Comment by hazard
2013-02-21 17:45:28

“The new shooting targets are titled as ”non-traditional threats”

Not only that, but I heard Obama signed an executive order officially changing Randy Newman`s Short People lyrics. :)

Randy Newman - Short People - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbhBNEUNyRc - 202k

White People got no reason
White People got no reason
White People got no reason
To live

They got little white hands
Little blue eyes
They walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear expensive shoes
On their nasty white feet

Well, I don’t want no White People
Don’t want no White People
Don’t want no White People
`Round here

White People are not the same
As you and I
(Such A Fool Was I)
Black men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It’s A Wonderful World)

White People got nobody
White People got nobody
White People got nobody
To love

They got skinny White legs
They can`t jump you know
You got to hold ‘em up
Just to say hello
They got expensive cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little White voices
Goin’ peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They’re gonna get you every time
Well, I don’t want no White People
Don’t want no White People
Don’t want no White People
‘Round here

 
 
Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 13:14:41

Is this true or a joke web site ?

As far as truth goes, Infowars had an article on this, so take it as you will.

Bottom line, the Feds want their troopers to not hesitate when confronted by these types of individuals in a shooting situation. Given the direction we’re heading, these types of scenarios will become more commonplace.

In fact, it has probably already started, as evidenced by a recent shooting by police of a 60 yo Sunday school teacher in VA as well as the Newspaper delivery women in CA.

Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-21 14:05:31

I’d steer clear of any pregnant ladies with guns. Those pregnancy hormones are some powerful sh!t.

They should have had a target of a “woman with PMS”.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 14:22:14

You know that PMS is not real.

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Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 15:48:42

You just keep on believing that… :lol:

 
 
Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 14:31:50

LOL.

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2013-02-22 10:10:19

hahaha!
white people iz funnee!!

when it comes to white people as targets
all one need remember is waco or ruby ridge
to find FUNNEE JOKEZ

then it’s Hyper-Funnee!!
cuz if those targets were black
THAT WOULD BE RACIST

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Comment by Avocado
2013-02-21 11:28:12

Zillow says: 2 million homeowners no longer under water. With 6% appreciation.
negative equity is still at 27.5% (down from 35%)

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 11:33:24

2012 a banner year for housing affordability, industry group says
By Alejandro Lazo
January 9, 2013, 8:17 a.m.

Last year was probably one of the most affordable years ever to buy a house as prices bottomed and mortgage interest rates hit record lows.

The National Assn. of Realtors reported that 2012 will probably go down as a record year for housing affordability, according to its affordability index. That measure, which is calculated based on the median home price, family income and the average mortgage interest rate, stood at 198.2 in November.

The higher the index number, the more purchasing power available to consumers. A reading of 100 is the point at which a family with a median income can afford a median-priced home presuming a 20% down payment.

For the entire year of 2012, the group projects the index will hit an average of 194, the highest it has been since recordkeeping began in 1970.

While homes may be affordable and mortgage interest rates low, 2012 was also marked by low inventory, steep competition for homes and tight mortgage lending standards. These conditions shut out many families still struggling from the recession. Many of the most successful buyers were firms and investors paying cash for properties.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 12:17:49

While homes may be affordable and mortgage interest rates low, 2012 was also marked by low inventory, steep competition for homes and tight mortgage lending standards. These conditions shut out many families still struggling from the recession. Many of the most successful buyers were firms and investors paying cash for properties.

I think that a lot of these firms and investors are going to learn some tough lessons about the realities of landlording.

Comment by oxide
2013-02-21 13:36:12

Polly says that the hedgies bought the properties so they can securitize and sell the rental stream up the food chain.

I see a flaw. Mortgage-backed securities had a good track record, due to ~50 years of cautious underwriting and responsible mortgage paying. MBS were thought to be safe because they WERE safe, until about 2002. But rent has NEVER been seen as safe. Who’s going to be stupid enough to buy rent-backed securities?

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 14:19:54

Polly says a lot of crazy things…I wouldn’t take her words as gospel :)

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Comment by polly
2013-02-21 16:30:01

People buy securities backed by almost any stream of regular payments including highway tolls. Rental REITs already are essentially this, just structured a little differently. Maybe the hedgies will go with a REIT rather than a bond. I have heard of an organization that wanted to securitize the income stream from repayments of micro-loans in the developing world, though I don’t think that one worked out.

The only restriction is that you have to find someone willing to buy it. Not that hard in a world with ultra low returns. All you have to do is compensate people for their risk.

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Comment by rms
2013-02-21 19:45:08

“Who’s going to be stupid enough to buy rent-backed securities?”

People will buy almost anything when passbook savings are 0.01% APY, that’s Annual Percentage Yield. The Wall street sharks are feasting on granny’s life savings, courtesy of FedGov chumming.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 11:43:10

The Fed meeting minutes have scared the bejeebus out of investors.

‘Fear index’ set for biggest one-week jump since 2011

Chicago options exchange’s Volatility Index, or VIX, is on track for its largest weekly jump in 17 months following Wednesday’s Federal Reserve meeting minutes and Thursday’s weak economic data.

Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 12:13:49

How will they backtrack this? This will be interesting.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 21:08:43

“Just kidding. We know we can’t take away the punch bowl…”

 
 
Comment by PeakHubris
2013-02-21 21:58:17

They’re trying to talk down oil prices.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 11:56:56

Median home price posts biggest gain since 2005, Realtors say
February 21, 2013, 9:56 a.m.

One measure of national home prices rose last month with a vigor not seen since the bubble days as the number of foreclosed homes and other distressed properties on the market shrank.

The median sales price for previously owned U.S. homes rose 12.3% annually in January to $173,600, the National Assn. of Realtors said Thursday. It was the 11th consecutive month of annual increases and the strongest such gain since November 2005.

In the West, the median price rose 26.6% over the year to hit $239,800 as sales fell.

A significant drop in housing inventory and a flood of investors flush with cash have played a significant role in bidding up the market in recent months, particularly in hard-hit markets such as the Inland Empire, Phoenix and Las Vegas.

The median home price is the point at which half of all homes sold for more and half for less. The median is susceptible to fluctuations in the types of homes selling — meaning that the fewer foreclosures and other cheap properties in the mix, the better that figure is going to look.

“Some, but not all of the strengthening in prices merely reflects a shift in the mix away from sales of discounted ‘distressed’ homes — from foreclosures and short-sales — toward more traditional sales,” Jim O’Sullivan, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency Economics, wrote in an emailed analysis. “The bottom line: while up only modestly in January, the trend in home sales still looks up; with inventories down sharply, prices are rising as well.”

Nevertheless, sharp home price increases — particularly in battered cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas — have raised concern among some economists that speculation could return to markets if double-digit gains continue.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-02-21 12:40:37

Nevertheless, sharp home price increases — particularly in battered cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas — have raised concern among some economists that speculation could return to markets if double-digit gains continue.

Methinks that speculation is already here.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower©
2013-02-21 13:38:05

It’s standard practice for MarketWatch writers to ‘predict’ developments that are already underway.

When you get down to it, there is no more reliable way to predict stuff than to report what is already happening but not widely known as though it won’t start happening until the near future.

 
 
 
Comment by eight pieces of chicken
2013-02-21 12:56:45

Wow. I guess Ben Jones is covered. So is Joe Smith, that’s a real name. :) Rest of us are screwed big time.

Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill

A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 13:05:53

Illinois can kiss my ass along with that particular state senator…

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 13:09:25

“And you can suck my @ss. I’ll make it so low-class” — Guns’N'Roses, “Get In The Ring”, 1991

 
 
Comment by bink
2013-02-21 14:15:38

Time to go adjust his wikipedia entry.

 
Comment by polly
2013-02-21 14:17:22

Unconstitutional government restriction on speech. Won’t go anywhere. If it does, the first court that bumps into it, will kill it.

Yawn.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-02-21 14:17:49

Just how will they enforce that law?

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-02-21 15:05:51

We want to know the real identity of the people who write the bills that senators propose.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-02-21 15:52:23

Sorry but it will work just the same way as corporations being declared people, yet having more rights than people.

Their lobbyists, er, bill authors, will have to remain double sekrit due to something, something, something about security.

 
 
 
Comment by sfhomowner
2013-02-21 15:43:54

Most miserable cities: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2013/02/21/detroit-tops-2013-list-of-americas-most-miserable-cities/

“Plummeting home prices” and “home price collapse” is one of the main criteria for being on this list.

Oil city, indeed.

Comment by goon squad
2013-02-21 18:43:21

Hey land of Fruit and Nut surfergurl, didn’t you get the memo? Think Amy Hoak (or some other fluffer) had a MarketWatch piece detailing how Detroit is back. Highlighting some stoopid new loft apartments and 20-something loosers all making mobile apps and starting yoga studios in the epicenter of USA’s biggest post-industrial meltdown.

Because everybody wants to live in a war-zone city dragged into the gutter by (bipartisan-sponsored) trade policies, crazee librul unions, and GOP “right to work” (for low wages) polititurds. Go Team USA!

 
Comment by rms
2013-02-21 19:49:10

“Most miserable cities:”

“#5 Modesto, Calif. — Foreclosures continue to plague Modesto with 6,859 foreclosure filings in 2012, according to RealtyTrac. It represents 3.8% of homes, which is the third highest rate in the U.S. Recent unemployment was 15%.”

No surprise here.

 
 
Comment by rms
2013-02-21 18:57:11

Didn’t hit the dew-point last night, streets were crystal clear, so I pedaled through a 13-degree F wind-chill this morning. That cold air cuts right through flannel lined jeans like you’re wearing shorts. My hands froze too despite thermal gloves. After parking the bicycle in my office I hit the coffee/bookstore. One of the cuties there saw me ride past, “A little cold out there?” “Yeah, that’s right…”, I said holding my thumb and index finger about an inch apart, “…about that cold!” Received a naughty grin. Unfortunately, we have rain, ice and snow forecast for the next three days, so no riding. :(

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2013-02-21 21:26:46

Hee Hee! Yeah I remember doing the same thing in 18 degree weather. Riding a 10 speed to work. Sometimes further, to an auto body shop where I would pick up my $1,000 car (I paid my parents) to do a $200 repair. I’d drive past snowy scenes.

I was in my 20s. I remembered my dad would say he put newspapers under his shirt when he was in Ohio and out in the cold. So I did that with my mittens as I rode my bike, crumbled up a newspaper page and stuffed it in front of where my fingers would go. Still, when I got to my office, I had to get the key to the door of our offices from my pocket. I would be standing outside. My fingers were numb. It was like putting someone else’s hand in my pocket.

This was in the high Mojave desert at China Lake, CA. Yes it gets very cold there. Busted a PVC pipe once at my house. Busted a few pipes on base, at least at the BOQ.

 
 
Comment by AnnGogh
2013-02-21 19:33:02

http://www.westernjournalism.com/state-farm-to-leave-illinois-move-to-texas/
State Farm, the nationally-known insurance chain headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois, has apparently had its fill of “The Land of Lincoln’s” confiscatory taxes. The 800 million dollar company is reported to have purchased “substantial workspace” in the Dallas, Texas area. The giant insurance firm’s workers are being kept in the dark reportedly to avoid “alarming them”; but is it their workers or the State of Illinois they would like to keep in the dark about this move? If this doesn’t signal State Farm’s coming dash out of Illinois’s clutches, what could it mean?

A knowledgeable Dallas real estate insider has called this impending move “a major business relocation” of record-breaking proportions. The numbers involved are approximately 2.5 million square feet of workspace and thousands of workers. No company in Dallas’ history has made a move this large.

Texas isn’t the only state State Farm is running to. There has also been a report that it has leased office space in Atlanta. The combined amount of both new locations roughly equals the 3.5 million square feet it has in Bloomington.

These moves should come as no surprise to anyone. In spite of (or maybe because of) raising its corporate and personal income tax rate by 67% in 2010, Illinois has seen its credit rating fall and its deficit raise. A review of the tax structure in Georgia shows the personal and corporate income tax is 4% as compared to Illinois’ 6.25%.

Texas has no personal or corporate income tax.

Add to this the fact that the gasoline tax in Illinois is 60.9 cents per gallon (while Texas collects just 38.4 cents per gallon and Georgia charges 47 cents tax on a gallon of gas), and it is easy to see why any company or individual would want to move.

The worst thing about the coming loss of jobs in Bloomington is that both the town’s state senator and Assembly representative are Republicans who did not vote for the policies that have destroyed their state and local economies.

Comment by Northeastener
2013-02-21 21:16:32

Let Illinois die a slow, painful death… The liberals there deserve what’s coming to them. Now if only New York and that asshat Bloomberg would follow Illinois to hell we’d be all set.

 
 
Comment by AnnGogh
2013-02-21 20:32:32

Detroit — Nearly half of the owners of Detroit’s 305,000 properties failed to pay their tax bills last year, exacerbating a punishing cycle of declining revenues and diminished services for a city in a financial crisis, according to a Detroit News analysis of government records.

The News reviewed more than 200,000 pages of tax documents and found that 47 percent of the city’s taxable parcels are delinquent on their 2011 bills. Some $246.5 million in taxes and fees went uncollected, about half of which was due Detroit and the rest to other entities, including Wayne County, Detroit Public Schools and the library.

Delinquency is so pervasive that 77 blocks had only one owner who paid taxes last year, The News found. Many of those who don’t pay question why they should in a city that struggles to light its streets or keep police on them.

“Why pay taxes?” asked Fred Phillips, who owes more than $2,600 on his home on an east-side block where five owners paid 2011 taxes. “Why should I send them taxes when they aren’t supplying services? It is sickening. … Every time I see the tax bill come, I think about the times we called and nobody came.”

This week, a state-appointed review team concluded the city can’t fix its financial problems. Any emergency manager appointed by Gov. Rick Snyder would have to grapple with a broken property tax system. The city’s share of uncollected taxes last year was $131 million — an amount equal to 12 percent of Detroit’s general fund budget.

A four-month News investigation found:

Detroit has the highest property taxes among big cities nationwide and relies on assessments that are seriously inflated. Many houses are assessed at more than 10 times their market price, according to new research from two Michigan professors.

Detroit relies on a shrinking sliver of businesses and neighborhoods to pay the bulk of the bills. The three casinos, General Motors Corp., DTE Energy, Chrysler Group LLC and Marathon Petroleum Corp. paid 19 percent of collected property taxes. Five city neighborhoods, most of them downtown and along the river, paid 15 percent of the city’s taxes and represent only 2 percent of the city’s total parcels. In all, only 41 percent of the city’s parcels produced tax revenues last year because of delinquencies and a large number of tax-exempt land.

Detroit’s delinquencies are so pervasive that some owners have been allowed to keep their property even if they don’t pay taxes. Wayne County treasury officials are so overwhelmed by foreclosures that they ignored about 40,000 delinquent Detroit properties that should have been seized last year and said they will look the other way on about 36,000 this year.

Lou Schimmel, Pontiac’s emergency financial manager, said Detroit needs to fix its property tax system — and fast.

“It’s broken,” Schimmel said. “It has to be fixed. You need the revenue.”

“It’s just plain simple. Your revenues are falling so fast you can’t afford to provide basic services.”

Frustrated by the system

Leola Wesley questions what services she gets for her taxes. Bill Lee pays out of his civic duty. Both are frustrated by the system.

Wesley paid $810 last year for her snug home near Chalmers. She was the only resident on her 32-parcel block who paid.

“It makes me not want to pay,” said Wesley, 85, who would move from her home of more than 20 years if she could afford it. “If nobody else is paying, why should I?”

A streetlight on her corner is out. Potholes are deep. She lives next to two vacant lots and rarely sees police patrol her block.

“There are so many empty houses, there’s nobody to pay,” Wesley said. “I’d like to know what is going to be the solution.”

Across town, Lee has dutifully paid his nearly $4,000 annual bill despite believing it’s too much. His stately brick Tudor in the University District is assessed at $53,810, meaning the city pegs its market value at $107,620. A recent appraisal he paid for found the house was worth $35,000.

“It was my commitment to seeing the city working,” said Lee, 67, a consultant who has lived there since 1982. “I know our difficulty is we are still operating like we have a million people. We have to have somebody to support that. … But it’s not fair that such a small percentage is paying.”

‘It’s not sustainable’

In Michigan, counties are required by law to foreclose when taxes aren’t paid for three years. So the owners of 143,600 properties who didn’t pay their full bill last year still have time to avoid foreclosure. Nearly 12,200 of those paid a portion of their bill but are still considered delinquent.

But the delinquency rate in the city shows the severity of Detroit’s challenges. Several other large Michigan cities, including Warren, Southfield, Grand Rapids and Dearborn, received taxes from more than 85 percent of their homeowners last year.

Cities with collection rates less than that are in trouble, said Alan Mallach, a Brookings Institution fellow who has studied the city extensively and is a consultant for the Detroit Works project.

Taxes are due Jan. 15. They become delinquent March 1 and it’s up to Wayne County to collect them. The county issues bonds to front some of the money to the city and tries to recoup lost revenue by selling foreclosed properties. The property auctions rarely make enough. In the past five years, the city has lost out on $317 million in taxes, county records show.

Property taxes are the lifeblood of most cities, but they’ve dwindled in Detroit. The funds now comprise 13 percent of general fund revenues, compared to 48 percent to 77 percent in other cities, according to research by professors Mark Skidmore of Michigan State and Gary Sands of Wayne State universities. Money from the state and federal government makes up the remainder in most cities. “The case is clear: The city is on the verge (of insolvency),” said Skidmore. “It’s not sustainable. It creates a whole cascade of challenges.”

At a breaking point?

Detroit finance director Cheryl Johnson said the city is doing its best under tough circumstances and the “property tax system is not broken.”

“It is a tragedy,” said Linda Bade, the city’s chief assessor. “We had the mortgage crisis, the auto crisis, the tier 1 and 2 suppliers all fled, huge unemployment …”

But critics argue the problems have reached a breaking point.

Property owners increasingly are re-buying their land in tax-foreclosure auctions and legally erasing their debts. Last year, 600 properties were re-purchased by their owners, triple the number in 2010. That cost the city nearly $6 million in unpaid taxes.

“It was a business decision,” said landlord Lamont Hunter, who said the $45,400 he owed in taxes and fees were too high on four of his foreclosed rentals that he bought back at auction for $5,801 total.

“Each of these houses I bought back is in bad, poor areas I wouldn’t live in. I am better off to bid.”

Even some banks are walking away. A 2010 federal General Accounting Office report found Detroit had some of the highest numbers in the nation of “bank walkaways,” or mortgage servicers who start foreclosure proceedings but then opt to abandon the properties and, often, their tax bills.

The review found 500 houses total in four Detroit ZIP codes — including the city’s northeast corner and Brightmoor — that were abandoned between January 2008 and March 2010.

Homeowners like Ricardo Kisner question whether the city can survive.

“It makes me wonder why I pay my taxes and keep my property up,” said Kisner, a North Rosedale Park resident and former top finance official for the city and Detroit Public Schools. “I keep asking myself, ‘Am I the stupid one?’”

Analyzing Detroit property tax data

The Detroit News wanted to know, as the city struggled to pay its bills and faced a showdown with the state over its finances, how well it was collecting taxes.
We began with 200,000 pages of city data on 2011 property taxes, converted the document into a database that stripped out personal property tax bills and parcels that weren’t taxable, including publicly owned property. The News made a block-by-block map showing which parcels paid taxes, and then updated it with Wayne County records from January that reflected late payments.
All told, taxes were paid in full on 53 percent of taxable properties in 2011. Taxes were paid on time on fewer than half of the city’s properties.
And although there are many vacant properties with little value, most of the nonpayers owed at least $1,000.
Mapping software showed that, by and large, neighborhoods with the most value had the highest payment rates. Those areas included the downtown business district, the areas east and west of downtown along the river, and Palmer Woods, home to some of the city’s most expensive housing.
The lowest payment rates were in large swaths of the east side and along the I-96 and I-94 corridors on the west side.
Day 2: The Detroit department that assesses properties is under fire for waste and missing cash. Its two top officers work two days a week and each stands to make more than $100,000 this year.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130221/METRO01/302210375#ixzz2Laxsh8oQ

Comment by rms
2013-02-21 23:38:58

“Property owners increasingly are re-buying their land in tax-foreclosure auctions and legally erasing their debts. Last year, 600 properties were re-purchased by their owners, triple the number in 2010. That cost the city nearly $6 million in unpaid taxes.”

Didn’t farmers do something like this, neighbor buys your place, and you buy his, and then you re-sell them to each other? Poof…no mo’ debt!

 
 
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