The Housing Bubble

And seaside shanties in the slums.

Don’t forget “surrounded by a landfill in a 3rd world country”

(I still get a chuckle about that one.)

So do we.

Spawn did his redneck thing:

SISSONVILLE, W.Va. (KDKA/CBS) – Authorities in West Virginia say a star of the MTV reality show “BUCKWILD” and two passengers all died of carbon monoxide poisoning.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/04/01/buckwild-cast-member-found-dead/

Spawn did his redneck thing:

Whodathunk going four-wheelin’ in the middle of the night when you’re drunk could have a tragic outcome?

Arms is big business.

Eisenhower warned about it 50 years ago.

“Eisenhower warned about it 50 years ago.”

The dream of a secure Israel meant a continuing U.S. presence in the region and that our arms industry would never be allowed to wind-down following WWII. Ditto for the Pacific Rim. It seems that the fall of the Turkish Ottoman empire continues to haunt us.

Weird, we have all those troops in Europe and Asia. All for Israel? Neat.

Who knew governments were created out of nature?

What else would they have been created out of? Man’s desire to quit living in a state of nature.

Not really. If they actually owned any they would know better.

Boycott? Don’t make me laugh.

Tell me eco, do you know the history of Smith & Wesson? Do you know what happened in the mid 90’s that caused them to consider bankruptcy and eventually a complete change in management?

I can tell you the boycott is real and it will hurt. Companies that support 2A and stand with us are earning our loyalty and our dollars and those that stand against us will be bankrupted.

People switch loyalties all the time for all kinds of reasons.

That’s not the same as boycott. It just seems like it.

Smith & Wesson Broke Clinton-Era Gun Safety Pledge To Boost Profits

pro-gun advocates saw the agreement as a rank betrayal, and the National Rifle Association said the company had “run up the white flag of surrender.” Under pressure from the boycott, sales fell 40 percent, and Smith & Wesson closed two factories. In 2001, Tompkins PLC, its British owner, sold the company to a U.S. buyer for $15 million, a fraction of the price it had paid for it just a few years earlier.

Hunters boycott CO over gun control

Firearm makers boycott anti-gun states

Keep thinking the left has a monopoly on “grass-roots organizing”. Keep thinking progressives like Bloomberg can counter the NRA and the millions of 2A supporters.

google it.

Maybe.

But I think it’s lunacy for any of these teabilly people to think they’ll be around very long if they poke the government machine. Maybe the resistance won’t be futile, maybe it will accomplish something, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Eventually the gov’t will wipe out the redneck teabillies because the firepower is just so lopsided. Tea billies have AR-15? Nice. DHS has incalcuably more firepower at their disposal.

Not to mention if the tea people fight the government it means their kids and families with either die or have to deal with the fallout. Of course, these are people who teach pre-teens how to shoot assault rifles, so the kids are probably lost souls anyway.

Of course, these are people who teach pre-teens how to shoot assault rifles, so the kids are probably lost souls anyway.

Right, because learning a skill like marksmanship and learning the fundamentals of gun safety at an early age is a sure sign of… what? Is this a “You know you’re a Teabillie when…” joke or are you really that naive?

Maybe you can tell me at what age Olympic shooters learn to shoot? Oh, you probably didn’t know that shooting is an Olympic sport. And of course, if that was the case, you didn’t know that Olympic shooting was one of nine original events at the first modern Olympic games. Huh, some cultural significance there.

And of course, the shooting arts have clear self-defense uses. Most statists agree, you can’t have people learning to defend themselves and not be victims dependent upon the state for protection until they’re at least 25…

“Of course, these are people who teach pre-teens how to shoot assault rifles, so the kids are probably lost souls anyway.”

That statement shows that you know as little about the 10s of million of people who you callously refer to as “Tea billies” as Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) the chief co-sponsor of the of the High Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act knows about High Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices.

You sir have swallowed the work of the government propaganda machine hook, line and sinker.

‘Not to mention if the tea people fight the government it means their kids and families with either die or have to deal with the fallout’

I don’t know who tea people are, but if you mean gun owners, this is laughable. So these guys making people take off their shoes off at the airport are going to mow down millions of gun owners? Even the US military is a joke. Do you know they have to have private contractors guard the bases in Iraq and Afghanistan? They can’t even guard themselves.

So the government is going to kill resistors children huh? Here’s a little something to think about:

‘How the post-Sandy Hook gun control push spectacularly backfired in America’

‘They will be targeted. I think that if they pass this bill, legislators who vote for it will be assassinated… they’re going to be military targets, too, and they’re going to be killed. They think they’re immune, but they’re not. They cannot walk around with enough security to keep from being shot by a sniper.” - Stewart Rhodes, OathKeepers.org

(For the record, Stewart Rhodes is not calling for this action. He is merely stating the obvious: that this is likely to take place if gun confiscation comes up for a vote in the U.S. Senate.)

It’s not just Stewart Rhodes saying this, either. Robbie Cooper from UrbanUndergrounds.com says much the same thing:

“We all quickly agreed a violent revolution and rebellion would occur almost immediately [following a federal gun ban]. Most, if not all, members of Congress who voted for the ban / confiscation would be assassinated. And the very first prey that would find themselves in the scopes of the rebels would be the members of Congress who passed this ban and the members of the media who have been their willing mouthpieces and agents of propaganda.”

Bob Owens from Bob-Owens.com paints a similar picture:

“The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they cannot be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.’

‘Veteran firearms instructor Paul Howe even penned a popular piece called 2nd Amendment and the Kool-Aid Drinkers in which he explains one popular solution for handling those who attempt to engage in gun confiscation:

‘Should firearm confiscation begin, solutions are simple. If they cannot live in a community, they cannot work in a community. If their house goes away while they are at work confiscating guns, so be it. Allow them to leave with their family and what possessions they can pack in their car.’

Howe also explains, in other interviews, that gun confiscation teams — “tac teams” — should expect to be attacked without warning and take huge casualties, reducing the effectiveness of those teams and effectively ending gun confiscation activities.’

http://www.naturalnews.com/038970_gun_control_backfired_America.html#ixzz2Pdj3dsvb

You think these DHS shoe sniffers are going to rule us? Or these loser GI Joes that can’t defeat goat herders in Afghanistan? If the Feds want a war, they’ll have one.

God bless those guys, all of them. the communist politicos will find they have bitten off far more than they can chew.

‘the communist politicos will find they have bitten off far more than they can chew’

They know this and wouldn’t dare try anything. The idea of the all-powerful state is nothing but a myth, and they will never allow this to be exposed. But some people like joe still believe. Fine. Remember how the feds couldn’t even get drinking water to New Orleans? We have nothing to fear from these incompetent, corrupt fools in DC except their incompetence and corruption.

Keep in mind these asshats empower the state police.

“Eventually the gov’t will wipe out the redneck teabillies because the firepower is just so lopsided. Tea billies have AR-15? Nice. DHS has incalcuably more firepower at their disposal.”

Hell, we may have an airforce on our side. I would not want to be a hired DHSS agent riding in one of those 2700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles the Janet Napolitano just bought and find out that pilot flying close air support in the Warthog had a father who was a “teabilly”.

A-10 Warthog, Thunderbolt II - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPwaApe4Rk - 222k -

• While gun grabbers hoped the U.S. military would agree to fire upon American citizens who refused to turn in their guns, what really happened is that huge numbers of active duty soldiers announced they would never participate in military action against their own countrymen. In fact, inside the military there is rising talk of shooting commanding officers in the head if they order troops to fire on American citizens over gun rights issues.”

http://www.naturalnews.com/038970_gun_control_backfired_America.html#ixzz2Pe3j1YLA

Remember how the feds couldn’t even get drinking water to New Orleans?

that’s because now their own lives are the priority, not the citizen’s. the agenda for much of law enforcement has changed. years ago many cops would willingly risk their lives to stop someone from killing an innocent. now they’re told that their top priority is to ‘come back alive’, not to protect someone else. now days, they only risk their lives unintentionally.

“Right, because learning a skill like marksmanship and learning the fundamentals of gun safety at an early age is a sure sign of… what?”

I was once shot at by a 6 year old child with a BB gun while driving through rural Indiana. At what age is a child old enough to handle a gun responsibly?

As far as self defense goes, I would be more likely to use a non-lethal, temporarily disabling weapon than a gun. I don’t really want to be responsible for killing someone.

Well, a nice civil war might pull us out of the New Depression….

This sort of knee-jerk hysteria (on both sides of the issue) is precisely what allowed us to be led into Iraq and Afghanistan. Can we please tone down the rhetoric and look at this rationally? These are fellow citizens we’re talking about here. And our democratically-elected officials.

You win some, you lose some. If you don’t want your guns on a registry, buy a 3D printer or a good drill press. If you’re worried about regulated ammo, get a reloader and keep your yap shut. But inciting to mob violence and assassination will just get you an unwanted visit from the FBI. And that’s the truth.

“This sort of knee-jerk hysteria (on both sides of the issue) is precisely what allowed us to be led into Iraq and Afghanistan.”

With all due respect, and in your case there is respect due. I honestly think who needs to be talked to in order to calm this down is our democratically-elected officials. When you honestly look at arms buildup within the Department of Homeland Security, what millions of people look at as staged national disaters to advance an agenda, a terrorist watch list that includes a large swath of American voters who obviously did not vote for the party that is in charge of this and their belief that they are being demonized and targeted with very little coming from this administration to deny this except for when you buy 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point bullets you get them at a cheaper price.

IMHO it has become cool to talk about 1) gun owners, 2) people who think government spending is out of control and a bad thing, 3) anti abortion groups, 4) anti gay marriage groups, 5) hunters, 6) veterans, 7) people who want the borders secured, white supremacists, lump them all into 1 category and call them “Tea billies” while painting a picture that at any minute could walk into a school and massacre children.

In my case I fall under 1, 2, and 7 (my Dad and brother were a 5 but when I went out with them deer hunting at the age of 13 I told my Dad I didn`t want to shoot a deer which I am pretty sure had him worried about me until I started getting into fights and offered football scholarships at the age of 17) but none the less I am lumped into 1-8 and treated as a white supremacist Tea billy and as far as I can see there is nothing coming from Janet, Eric and the gang to dispel this.

“I was once shot at by a 6 year old child with a BB gun while driving through rural Indiana”

It could have been worse, you could have been shot at by a 6 year old child with a 9mm hand gun while driving through Chicago.

For the record, I have no idea how the smiley dude got in that post. I don`t even know how to make that one.

That would be the 8 followed by the close-parenthesis.

You do now…

“It could have been worse, you could have been shot at by a 6 year old child with a 9mm hand gun while driving through Chicago.”

So you support my point that there is an age at which children should not be handling guns.

With all due respect, and in your case there is respect due. I honestly think who needs to be talked to in order to calm this down is our democratically-elected officials. When you honestly look at arms buildup within the Department of Homeland Security, what millions of people look at as staged national disaters to advance an agenda, a terrorist watch list that includes a large swath of American voters who obviously did not vote for the party that is in charge of this and their belief that they are being demonized and targeted with very little coming from this administration to deny this
I heard and read the tones of public discourse go down the toilet starting about 1992. Nowadays hysterical utterances and insane rhetoric are the norm, even for TV weathermen predicting the next snowstorm. It’s very hard to perceive your surroundings and describe them usefully when your only language is so distorted.

So you support my point that there is an age at which children should not be handling guns.

Clearly that is the case—similar to how you would never hand a steak-knife to a toddler. Small infants can’t even handle their own fingernails safely; they have to be kept short to avoid scratching themselves.

But the age at which children can be taught firearm safety is not all that old. I think I took a gun-safety course when I was ten or twelve (can’t remember my exact age), and I was allowed to use guns thereafter for hunting, target, and sport (trap), as long as I was properly supervised by an adult. But I was trusted to use the bb-gun alone.

“So you support my point that there is an age at which children should not be handling guns.”

I will do better than that, I will make a point that at 6 years old IMHO kids should not be touching guns. My Dad started teaching me how to shoot when I was about 8 or 9 years old but at 6 years old to the best of my recollection he had already taught me not to touch guns. I say to the best of my recollection because as long as I can remember growing up I knew that and there were rifles on a gun rack in our den long before I was there. And to the best of my recollection I knew what would happen to me if I did not listen to what my father told me and it was not good, which would have been long before I could actually reach the guns. I was allowed to shoot targets on my own when I was about 13. By then I had been well schooled in gun safety.

“It’s very hard to perceive your surroundings and describe them usefully when your only language is so distorted.”

Comment by joe smith
2013-04-05 11:54:04
All the teabillies will be dead, it’s just a question of how much of the country gets f***ed up in the process. I don’t trust DHS not to take out innocent people while they’re out hunting teabillies and lobbing missiles into residential areas. The amount of firepower DHS has built up in the last few years is staggering.

tresho

Did you notice that you got no……. With all due respect, and in your case there is respect due.

But what happened to ignore?

“But what happened to ignore?”

Nothing wrong with a little pat on the head for the local emBEARassment.

And another lying coward of a realtard exposes itself.

Why? You created your own chart and posted on Wiki and ask why?

You’re a fraud.

You created your own chart and posted on Wiki

LOL… Dude, there’s a black helicopter outside your window.

Here you go, you can download the data and graph from Professor Shiller’s website if you are skeptical about Wikis.

http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data.htm

Third-to-last paragraph down has a link to his data.

Wrong again but we don’t expect you to be truthful.

And besides….. inflation during the years on the CS chart is non-existent.

I see you’ve been lulled into believing that 2%-3% annually over 25 years isn’t meaningful. Wake up.

I see you continue to misunderstand and misrepresent inflation.

More and more businesses are pushing work outside of office hours.

….. that can be done from a notebook anywhere on the planet.

A home office was one of our “wish list” items, not critical, but preferred. We have a dedicated office (prior owner put all the built-in desks, etc., so investment of $0…cool).

With kids around (even if there is someone at home to care for them), there is a MAJOR benefit for my wife to be able to close the door, lock it, and have conference calls, no interruptions, etc.

This is pretty valuable, especially if my wife has a window of 1-2 hours before a local kid event (perhaps she’s helping in the classroom for our kindergartner at 10:30), and would waste 50% of that time by driving into the office and back.

Her job (attorney) does not allow her to have conference calls in places where anyone can overhear.

I love my office, I have storage for my go-to reference books (LexisNexis and WestLaw are too expensive to use for basic research) and a large 37″ monitor side-by-side with a smaller 24″ for word processing (I “spread out” open PDFs on the 37″). Nice big surfaces for when I have to pull things apart to mark them up. A couple large (probably 4′ x 6′) white boards I use for planning & reminder notes, a large 2-month calendar white board, built-in chargers for every gadget I have, built-in ipod hook up, labeled hard drives for work stuff/personal stuff/ and general storage. Large paper shredder and fax/scanner/printer.

We also have a large work table in there for my wife’s teaching stuff and she has all her supplies in a large closet space.

Pretty nice space in general. I know *exactly* where everything is, I don’t tire my eyes out looking at some stupid shitty screens, and I can get things done much more quickly because I don’t have to fumble around on a couch or kitchen table like some slobby college kid.

I’m the kind of person who never leaves random crap laying around my house. I do not want work stuff or my wife’s teaching/grad school stuff sitting in the kitchen or the media room or especially in the bed room.

The best part is the tax deduction. What a joke of a tax code we have where I am rewarded for something like that.

Oh heck, I have a front office and a back office. The front office doubles as a guest BR, the back office serves as an antechamber to keep people from walking through the BR on the way to the deck. Somehow I manage to keep straight what is where, but I’m just as likely to pay bills at the table in the kitchen. All this in 900 sf.

We don’t have any child creatures

Ah, so it’s “we” now, is it Blue? Your verbal change is telling. How long have you and your Canadian redhead been going cruising together now?

Since 2006. Life is good. She beats me at cribbage all the time now though.

Hopefully a grandchild or two will visit for a short time this season, so we can test the spare room.

Since 2006. Life is good.

Nice—I’m glad to hear it.

Is she starting to hint to you for the big-M at all, or are neither of you interested in that?

Personally, I would find the idea of Canadian citizenship to be a draw…

Do the child creatures that you live with during the winter know that you refer to them as child creatures?

We have an “until misery do we part” agreement. A good part time relationship is better than a miserable full time one, and we are good to each other.

I am still recovering from PTSD. Anything is possible, but nothing is required. Like a mortgage, promises are easily made, it is the keeping them that can prove difficult. I kept mine for three and a half decades. Figure I have paid my original debt to society.

Oxy, when they are present I refer to them as “ankle biters”. Don’t be harsh with me, I raised four mostly single handed.

“I raised four mostly single handed.”

Have you been able to get the stains out of your superhero cape? My wife and I both have careers and kids…we see going into the office on Monday as a break. Huge respect for you.

My superhero cape unfortunately fell apart completely. There is no putting it back together.

That stuff looks like it cost quite a bit of cash in the trash.

Well, not like I have any right to talk. Guess what I’m doing this evening? Yep! Home Depot is having its Black Friday sales on mulch and potted herbs!

The amount of *fun* that the pictured gear enables is incalculable.

The amount of *fun* that the pictured gear enables is incalculable.

+1 Agreed. But no custom made bicycles or skydiving gear?

Yep, only firefox.

I’ve been considering writing one for Chrome or my own use; I might be more motivated to do so if there is sufficient interest from others.

No worries here by dear debt-junkie. You on the otherhand.

Oxy, you are acting like one accustomed to having men run screaming for dear life when you threaten them with a smooch. It is kind of scary. Maybe you could be less obtuse?

Water. Sugar. Orange (coloring).

(With props to Dave Chappelle…)

It’s what plants crave?

Us old guys buy groceries too….

Us old guys buy groceries too….

I didn’t meant to diminish the impact to “old guys,” Blue—merely trying to point out that demographically-speaking, it tends to be the women who outlive the men, and that they are therefore much more likely to run out of assets and end up being poor towards the end of their life.

Therefore, as a group, this will impact them the most.

I understand. I will share my beans and rice with the widow down the street in that case.

Yep, eventually fundamentals assert themselves.

I’m still shocked at how many years it has taken for this forecast to be borne out; I would have expected it to take a couple of years at most.

You’re having a hard time huh liar?

Tampa DOWN 5.5%MoM, DOWN 7.3% QoQ
Dallas DOWN 0.7%MoM, DOWN 0.6% QoQ
DC DOWN 1.2%, DOWN 2.8% QoQ

I copied those numbers out of the three links that YOU sent. Verbatim.

Anyone here can click on the links themselves to see which version they see.

In fact, I encourage them to do so.

I really wonder sometimes whether you are in an alternate universe… You apparently go to the same webpages and see different numbers on them.

Anyone else care to chime in on which version of the numbers YOU see at the links above?

Tampa DOWN 5.5%MoM, DOWN 7.3% QoQ

Ah, I see your error now: you sent a link to the “Zillow Home Value Index” chart, but you were actually clicking on the “Sale Price” and seeing different data.

Yes, on the sale price, the numbers you list are close (modulo typos):

Tampa: DOWN 5.7 % MoM, DOWN 7.3 % QoQ, UP 16.1 % YoY

You should be more clear on what you are quoting. The links you sent went to pages that showed everything being UP, according to the Zillow Home Value Index.

Prime, keep in mind he’s the HBB “realtor level thinker”, which is to say he doesn’t do well with critical thinking, math or analysis of facts. He just likes to say stuff which suits his agenda. Bit of an emBEARassment, but what can you do but humour him?

Refute it. Don’t be cowardly. Refute it.

“Refute it.”

How about this, from your links:
Tampa YoY: +16.1%
Dallas YoY: +60.3%
Washington YoY: +11.7%

Pretty bullish numbers you’re linking to. But you don’t understand what you’re posting. You cherry pick the same as a realtor would. You’re no better than those you despise.

For example, where did you get this stat:

“Say….. How far down would the market move prices if it were allowed to operate on it’s own?

65%.”

A real bear can quote a source. A real bear understands why the markets is in trouble. Real bears know why the market is destined to go down. But you? You’re no better than a realtor. You’re an emBEARassment.

Show your source. Prove it. (you can’t)

Posting front page opinion number? Someones estimate?

How dishonest you are. And as if “Realtor” hasn’t been discredited enough, you, a Realtor, would once again, lie to the public and post an opinion number.

Here’s the truth, right from the very links I posted.

Tampa DOWN 5.5%MoM, DOWN 7.3% QoQ
Dallas DOWN 0.7%MoM, DOWN 0.6% QoQ
DC DOWN 1.2%, DOWN 2.8% QoQ

Why make the same tragic error you did and buy when rentals are half the cost? Buy later for 65% less.