Yesterday there was a news story that Pres. Obama was encouraging loans to J6P because “it didn’t make sense for banks to lend.” I asked that, since banks had never really “lent,” but instead had sold all their risk on the secondary market during the bubble, why didn’t they sell on the secondary market now?
Comment by DaniW
2013-04-10 19:15:49
There is no more secondary market.
Dani, do you or anyone else have more information on this? What happened? Did Fannie and Freddie finally slam the barn door shut so they can deal with the existing toxic waste? If the secondary market has disappeared, then this would be huge. Most of HBB is in agreement that securitization fueled the bubble. If there is no selling up the food chain, then there will be no bubble. The only fuel we have now is foreign cash, hedge fund OPM, and a few responsible savers with 740 FICO’s and 10% cash down. Unlike *poof* money, there is a finite amount of all of this.
A year ago, I bought my house at ~35% off peak. The boomlet raised my house value to ~28% off peak (if Zillow is to be trusted). I don’t expect it to rise much more. ISTM, even if banks restrict inventory hoping to manipulate the comps upward, there simply isn’t enough cash or potential rental stream to blow the current boomlet back up to peak 2006 prices.
All those folks who bought or cashed out in 2006 can’t count on appreciation to get them above water. They will have to get above water the old fashioned way: by making actual payments on principle — on Lucky Duck wages. No wonder Pres. Obama is desperately trying to woo the banks again. And where does FHA come into this?
i thought like 95% of all new mortgages since 2008 were FHA loans…cash buyers don’t need loans…i hope hedge funds are eligible for an FHA loan…and i hope foreigners are not eliglbe either.
there must be a secondary market…the federal reserve perhaps?
Lack of secondary market means there is no private secondary market. When there was a private secondary market, demand for loans was huge. They couldn’t sell bonds if they didn’t have loans to securitize. So they paid a lot to the originators to get those bonds - probably through some sort of up front fee to deliver X number of loans. Fannie and Freddie may still be securitizing, but they aren’t competing with private securitizers anymore, so I am sure the fees are down to nice dull rates, probably just the fees they can get away with charging the borrowers and those may be limited for loans they want to sell to F&F.
Speculating here, but who would pay high fees for loans if the banks want to get rid of them and you are the only buyer in town? (Where is Englishman in NJ when you need him?) And with limited fees for the originator and a lot of work to document that the loan conforms to F&F rules and the possibility you might be forced to buy it back if it turns out later that the borrower wasn’t actually qualified, there is limited reason to concentrate on that part of your business. It doesn’t have a lot of profit growth potential.
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-11 08:07:31
There is no private secondary market because the government-sponsored secondary market offers terms that no private lender would offer because they are guaranteed to lose money.
Photo credit: Bloomberg News | President Barack Obama speaks in the Rose Garden on his proposed budget. With him is Jeffrey Zients, acting director of the Office of Management and Budget. (April 10, 2013)
WASHINGTON - The cash-strapped Federal Housing Administration may need a $943 million taxpayer bailout to cover expected losses from loans it insured as the U.S. housing bubble was deflating, the Obama administration said April 10.
It would be the first bailout of the government’s mortgage insurer in its nearly 80-year history.
The FHA, which has struggled to manage a glut of delinquent mortgages, will likely need the bailout given the shortfall in its reserves, the administration said in President Barack Obama’s fiscal 2014 budget proposal.
FHA Commissioner Carol Galante said the agency might still be able to avoid taking aid from the U.S. Treasury despite the projected budget hole. The agency has until Sept. 30 to decide whether it needs a cash infusion.
“FHA, while still under stress from legacy loans, has made significant progress and is on a sound fiscal path forward,” Galante told reporters on a conference call. “We are continuing to act and do everything possible to ensure that the impact of these legacy loans . . . are corrected as soon as possible.”
The FHA is required by Congress to keep enough cash on hand to cover all expected future losses and must take a taxpayer subsidy if its projected revenue falls short.
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Troubled homeowners will have another two years to use a government refinancing program, which has been extended through the end of 2015, officials said Thursday. The Home Affordable Refinance Program, which enables refinancing for borrowers with loans backed by Freddie Mac (FMCC -6.44%) or Fannie Mae (FNMA -5.81%), had been slated to expire at the end of this year. “We are extending the program so more underwater borrowers can benefit from lower interest rates,” said Edward DeMarco, acting director of the agency that regulates Fannie and Freddie. Since starting in 2009, the program has helped more than 2.2 million borrowers refinance.
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Comment by polly
2013-04-11 12:58:07
Refinancing old loans is not the same thing as buying the old loans in the form of bonds on the secondary market.
The new loans can be different in all sorts of ways like requiring the borrower to document their income at the time of the refinancing, lower rates, limiting the payment to income ratio, etc.
Are you still stuck with a loan securitized by a house? Yes. But a new loan is a new loan. It isn’t a bond backed by the old loan.
“Refinancing old loans is not the same thing as buying the old loans in the form of bonds on the secondary market.”
Understood.
The reason I posted that was to corroborate my assertion that these government sponsored enterprises operate by different rules than do private securitizers, rules which let them take policy actions deemed to be in the public interest which dump losses onto taxpayers, share holders and bond owners. Imagine a private securitizer crowing in a press release about a new policy which instantly generates a 6% hit to their share price. The CEO would probably be fired the next day!
Thank you Polly. And my understanding is that the private secondary market sold the loans to Fannie Freddie — tertiary market? — anyway. F&F were private at the time, but they had that implied gov guarantee (which was invoked in 2008-9 IIRC).
F&F was still buying as of a year ago, but they are pickier. F&F needs to buy new good loans and use the interest payments to backstop the older crap. My bank told me up front they intended to sell to Fannie. Some of the hoops I jumped were solely to please Fannie and not the bank.
FHA is not a walk in the park. FHA charges hefty PMI and service fees. PMI goes away at 22% equity, but the service fees never go away. I think they calculated that for me, it would be something like $150-$250/month. You pay dearly for having 3.5% down.
During the boom, the private secondary market sold their bond directly to banks and insurance companies and pension funds and anyone else who wanted to buy triple A rated bonds. Stuff that happened later was purchases by the Fed or by hedge funds/private equity who thought the value of the bonds would come back at least from the ultra low prices they thought they were getting. Other than that? Bonds trade. People buy and sell them. Just like stock. However, I don’t see any reason why Fannie and Freddie would buy toxic waste bonds. They are mortgage securitizers. They sell bonds. They don’t have any use for a large portfolio of bonds from other securitizers.
I should have qualified my statement, but am rather surprised you do not know. This is the whole cause of the recession. Maybe we’re not talking about the same thing.
The secondary market were all those mortgage based securities(MBS) bond funds that went belly up. They were buying the mortgages from the banks and “insuring” them with credit default swaps. But when the mortgages got too exotic and the value of the houses couldn’t be sustained , the credit default swaps(CDS) were not able to cover the massive bets that all went in one direction.
Fannie and Freddie got in on this too but that was only a small part of their portfolio - they still got taken over by the government and still needed to be bailed out.
Everyone who invested in MBS was hurt - pension funds, investment banks, countries like Iceland.
A very few people collecting on the other side of the bet won big - one goldman sachs employee reportedly made $3 billion.
Read the The Big Short or essays by William Black. Gretchen Morgenstern is also an excellent source. Any number of economists have written about it.
Qualify that to say the Big Short is by Michael Lewis that wrote Liar’s Poker. I wasn’t clear in my last sentence. William Black wrote a lot of good essays and his last book was called The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One - that was written before this bubble but he writes about a lot of the stuff that added up to our current mess.
I haven’t really gotten to reading the books, but I guess it’s enough to know that there just isn’t any profit in MBS anymore? My whole point was: no securitization, no housing bubble. There just aren’t enough creditworthy people (there weren’t last time).
Hoarders:Buried Alive had an interesting variation last night. This family wanted to buy a larger house - the husband was… wait for it… real estate agent. They bought this house without looking at the inside! (I thought it was only the overseas investors that bought houses without looking at them).Then they found out the seller was a hoarder and it took 6 months to get her and her junk out. They ended up basically tearing the house down…
There’s a house up the street that was foreclosed. But the people are still living there, even though the house has changed hands.
The ever-efficient neighborhood grapevine reports that the residents of this house are serious hoarders. I guess the new owner figured that clearing the place out would be such a PITA that he/she decided to let the foreclosed family stay.
As families go, they’re not bad. The place doesn’t look so great from the outside, but that’s not atypical of that part of the nabe.
I have been following the recent ramblings of the hobbyist geneticists on here. My brother while working for Amnesty International married a woman from the Congo (IQ-68) and produced an offspring, the offspring will graduate with honors this spring from Amherst College. How does one account for the lack of Zairian taint? he sure looks dark to me.
My great grandmother would have scored very badly on an IQ test administered to adults in the US too - because the most English she ever learned to read or write was her name. But she ran a small store during the day and memorized all the transactions that happened from the time my grandfather left for school until he came home in the afternoon so he could write them down for her. Not sure why she felt it was necessary to keep the books in English. Also not sure why she didn’t just write down the transactions in Yiddish and let grandpa translate when he got home - maybe the extra paper was too expensive and she found memorizing the transactions easy enough that writing them down was unnecessasry. Anyway, IQ tests are culturally biased and always have been.
Also, anyone who thinks intelligence of any kind is purely inherited is already dealing with limited powers of observation and thought themselves. My brother’s best friend when he was a kid was a genius. Sort of a wreck when it came to behavior and he ended up doing a lot of drugs in high school, but you could tell the brain power was there when he was 8 and 9. Parents were dumb as posts. Nice enough people who had no idea how to deal with their kid, but no extra brain power to spare. The sister took after them. I tutored a few kids who parents were very, very bright and the kids just didn’t have it. I remember one little girl in particular. Brother took after the parents. She didn’t. And it wasn’t just laziness. She could manipulate her parents but it didn’t work with me since I only dealt with her one hour a week. She just didn’t understand stuff.
I studied biology (thought I wanted to go into genetics), so I’m a bit more than a hobbyist, but not much more, since my real studies on the matter are ~20 years old. My only comment on the matter:
All one really need answer to such paranoid mumblings is “West Virginia”.
Charles Murray has been discredited by so many meta-analyses that it’s almost mandatory he be a patron saint of the greenhouse effect- deniers klub.
Conflating circumstantial influences (bad nutrition, cultural norms, selection bias) for intrinsic propensity is the classic propagandists’ tool.
In fairness, I find Murray’s latest hypothesis intriguing, as it deals more with influencing social policy to address a very real regression in social (not necessarily genetic) fitness.
Updated: Register this: Highway patrol gave feds Missouri weapon permits data on two occasions
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 19:16
The Missouri State Highway Patrol has twice turned over the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders to federal authorities, most recently in January, Sen. Kurt Schaefer said Wednesday.
Questioning in the Senate Appropriations Committee revealed that on two occasions, in November 2011 and again in January, the patrol asked for and received the full list from the state Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Schaefer later met in his office with Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the patrol.
is it “go time yet” ? - pray tell who’s gonna come confiscate - guys in black choppers, have you talked to these guys lately - the enforcement types… they are your garden variety “keep your hands off my gun” types - i doubt they are gonna enforce a federal directive to take away any ones guns, now if they get the model T101, that would be a different story.
Toxic Government by Democrats: Baltimore
FrontPage Magazine | April 8, 2013 | John Perazzo
The city of Baltimore, Maryland, which in the 1950s was an employment mecca for a number of thriving industries, has been governed exclusively by Democratic mayors and city councils since 1967. William Donald Schaefer, who served as Baltimore’s mayor from 1971-87, helped set the stage for economic decline in his city by championing an ever-expanding public sector coupled with extensive government regulation of private business enterprises. Moreover, he relied heavily on federal grants and city bonds to finance a host of development projects throughout Baltimore. As the City Journal reports: “[W]hen those monies proved insufficient, [Schaefer] … created his own city bank to seed development: the Loan and Guarantee Fund. The fund financed itself by selling city property and then leasing it back to itself, and by selling bonds that would stick future taxpayers with much of the bill.”
In 1986 the Brookings Institution reported that “only projects that had been endorsed by [Schaefer] were funded, and only the neighborhoods that were most loyal to City Hall got community grants.” In dozens of cases, Schaefer’s administration took federal funds that had been earmarked for poor people and diverted them to other, more politically expedient, uses. As the Baltimore City Paper reveals: “Fifteen million dollars from a program to provide rent subsidies to low-income families was used to build housing for the elderly (a reliable voting bloc). Another $15 million earmarked for disadvantaged schoolchildren was spent on other items, including the salaries of [politically influential] school bureaucrats.”
In the 1970s, Schaefer’s deputy public works director was incarcerated for rigging bids on city contracts. And in the ’80s, the federal government shut down the city’s Urban Development Action Grants program due to its many abuses.
In 1987 Schaefer was succeeded as mayor by Kurt Schmoke, who continued his predecessor’s policy of extracting as much taxpayer money as possible from Annapolis and Washington, respectively. By 2001, such state and federal subsidies accounted for an incredible 40% of Baltimore’s operating budget.
Even as the nation flourished economically in the 1990s, Baltimore’s economy lost at least 58,000 jobs. The city’s unemployment rate was twice that of the rest of Maryland. Part of the problem was the fact that Baltimore’s property taxes were the highest in the state, causing many of the city’s leading private-sector firms to relocate in the more business-friendly suburbs.
While Baltimore’s industry and finance were in steep decline, crime was on the rise—thanks, in large measure, to Schmoke’s ineffective, soft-on-drugs policing strategy. By the end of the 1990s, the murder rate in Baltimore was six times higher than in New York (where a variety of proactive policing practices had reduced violent crime dramatically). Three-fourths of Baltimore’s homicides were drug-related—symptoms of an ongoing, brutal drug-turf war that was engulfing many nonwhite neighborhoods. Police, meanwhile, were frustrated by the fact that the drug dealers whom they arrested were routinely released a short time later, free to resume their criminal activities on the streets.
Baltimore’s economy also lagged under O’Malley. Between 2001 and 2004, the city lost nearly 5% of all its jobs, including a quarter of its manufacturing jobs, 15% of its banking and finance jobs, and 5% of its retail jobs.
In 2007 O’Malley was succeeded as mayor by Sheila Dixon, who resigned three years later when convicted of embezzlement and perjury charges. Replacing Dixon was city council president Stephanie Rawlings-Blake. By the start of 2013, Baltimore’s population stood at 619,000—a 35% dropoff from its peak of 950,000 six decades earlier, when it had been an economically and socially healthy city.
A consequence of illegal aliens driving while drunk. It’s the macho thing to do.
Have you noted an uptick in “child molestation” (- a charge frequently - and, it is argued, unjustly - brought against thirty year old men who provide food for twelve and thirteen year olds in exchange for sex)? Or an uptick in rapes that are actually reported? (this generally happens when it hasn’t sunk in yet that Denver isn’t Guatemala City, and the locals here are not resigned to being used as inanimate objects).
Long term democrat rule + public union goons + higher and higher taxes + bigger and bigger government = a bankrupt city in which people FLEE
But somehow the 47% think if we just did this on a nation scale - things would turn out fine.
Lord help you if you own a house or business in Chicago.
and PS - Chicago has a near complete gun ban.
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Toxic Government by Democrats: Chicago
FrontPage Magazine ^ | April 10, 2013 | John Perazzo
The city of Chicago, Illinois has been led exclusively by Democratic mayors since 1931. Under the “progressive” policies of such notables as Richard J. Daley, Michael Bilandic, Jane Byrne, and Harold Washington, the city’s economic and social fabric decayed markedly during the 1960s, ’70s, and ’80s. These trends were accompanied by a steep decline in Chicago’s population, which fell from 3.62 million in 1950 to 2.78 million by 1990.
Fiscal mismanagement by the Daley administration began to manifest itself in Chicago’s economy, causing 7.1% of the city’s jobs to dry up and disappear—more than any other large metropolitan area.
Meanwhile, the city government was running an annual budget deficit of approximately $650 million. Contributing heavily to these shortfalls were ever-escalating expenditures on the lavish benefits of Chicago’s many public-sector union employees, whose pensions were, by mandate of the Illinois state constitution, permanently immune to cutbacks. By early 2012, each household in the city owed, on average, more than $63,000 in local government liabilities.
Chicago’s Democratic leaders sought to address the budget deficit by raising local property and sales taxes. This, coupled with Illinois’ already-high state-tax rates, became a recipe for severe financial hardship in the Windy City. According to a March 2013 Wall Street Journal report, the state and local taxes currently paid by Chicagoans are higher than those paid by their counterparts in all but four other American cities. This oppressive tax climate has dealt a painful blow to Chicago’s small businesses.
Another factor harming small businesses in Chicago is the system of “aldermanic privilege” that dominates the city’s politics and serves as a fertile breeding ground for corruption. As urban-affairs analyst Aaron Renn explains, Chicago’s aldermen—i.e., city council members—have “nearly dictatorial control over what happens in their wards, from zoning changes to sidewalk café permits.” “This,” says Renn, “dumps political risk onto the shoulders of every would-be entrepreneur, who knows that he must stay on the alderman’s good side to be in business. It’s also a recipe for sleaze: 31 aldermen have been convicted of corruption since 1970.” According to a University of Illinois report issued in 2012, Chicago is the most politically corrupt city in the United States, having averaged 51 public corruption convictions annually since 1976. In such a political climate, failure to adhere dutifully to the demands of the mayor and his power structure typically spells doom for any business enterprise.
Chicago’s fiscal woes are compounded by the poor economic conditions in Illinois generally, where egregious financial mismanagement have plunged a once-thriving state economy into virtual ruin. The state’s job-creation rate ranks a lowly 48th in the U.S., and its $9,624 public debt per capita is second only to New York’s. Largely as a consequence of this runaway debt, two of the nation’s major credit-rating corporations, Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s, currently give Illinois the lowest credit rating of any state in the Union.
Yet another reality that has had a major impact on life in Chicago is crime. Since the mid-1970s, the annual homicide tally within the city has ranged between 435 and 970, with the trends and fluctuations more-or-less mirroring those observable nationwide. Today Chicago ranks among the most dangerous cities in the U.S. Blacks, who constitute roughly 35% of Chicago’s population, commit 76% of all homicides in the city. By contrast, whites, who are 28% of the population, commit 4% of the homicides. Driving the trend of high crime rates in Chicago’s black community is a high incidence of single motherhood; between 75% and 80% of the city’s black children are born out-of-wedlock. Sociological research has demonstrated conclusively that growing up without a father is a far better forecaster of a boy’s future criminality than either race or poverty. As Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector notes, “Illegitimacy is a major factor in America’s crime problem. Lack of married parents, rather than race or poverty, is the principal factor in the crime rate.”
Psst. Latest numbers on Iraq/Afghanistan put the cost between 4-5 Trillion. Over half of the veterans of these two wars are claiming disabilities so the future costs are only going to rise. How many of these vets will be living off the disability gravy train for the rest of their lives?
No it isn’t. It’s a side effect of being a mercenary tool of a militaristic society. Reinstate the draft, spread the pain around.
Comment by aNYCdj
2013-04-11 22:50:51
I agree Bluestar keep women on the front lines….i’m thinking looking back if women were drafted in Vietnam do you think that war would have lasted so long.. a draft would be good for America,
Now what do we do with the 8th grade dropout would be gansta rappah. hmmm military or jail they would be too dumb to go awol and run to canada
After Saddam Hussein flew those planes into World Trade Center did you expect us to just sit on our hands like a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys?
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Comment by PeakHubris
2013-04-11 10:30:46
Gotta get dem weppinzh of mash dishtruckshin wayfrim dozh terriss.
So true. It’s in our blood stream. In fact I think the Senate would green light another war in a heart beat right now. The house might be a problem because of the extreme left & right are in isolation mode for now. Do you think the FED worries about another multibillion dollar war?
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Comment by measton
2013-04-11 08:55:22
I suspect the FED would be happy with a war. The gov rolling back spending with sequester and local gov cuts goes against their attempt to create inflation. But a war now that’s spending our gov can get behind. Deficits be damned.
Comment by it's hard out here for a pimp
2013-04-11 09:08:57
Senate would green light another war in a heart beat right now
As long as they have McCain, Lieberman and Graham in the senate, war is the most likely scenario.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 11:24:57
Lieberman retired from the Senate in January, my squiggly-eye doodlebug.
Basically your argument is, “Bush f’ed up, now it’s out turn to f’up.”
Or possibly, “Bush (and especially Greenspan) f’ed up so amazingly, astoundingly badly, that’s it’s hard to fix it quickly and easily”.
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Comment by mathguy
2013-04-11 14:08:53
So instead of trying to fix it at all, just expand on what they did and blame it on them for the next 8 years saying the mess they created was too big, while giving more of the same.
Also let us know when somebody proves that the death of cities is caused by the government and NOT by 40 years of outsourcing all the JOBS. CAUSED, not correlated, thank you very much.
In fact, let us know when John Boehner actually creates all the jobs he promised.
Outsourcing jobs is not more cost effective when equal regulation is applied internally and externally. Can you imagine the cost of chinese goods if their factories were required to meet our health and EPA requirements (and worker conditions/minimum wage) for any good produced coming to America?
If Chinese factories were required to meet health and EPA and minimum wage requirements, maybe those goods wouldn’t be Chinese. As for “cheaper prices,” if the Americans actually had jobs, they could afford the higher prices. Especially if the companies didn’t take so much profit.
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Comment by SUGuy
2013-04-11 16:03:43
“Especially if the companies didn’t take so much profit”
You are a very smart person. Thank you for your brainy posts.
We pay way way way above average and we feel guilty that our workers are not making that much compared to what we take in. But we are not stupid as it is easy to overcome ones guilt.
Know what else SF and Chicago have in common? Some a@@ writer from airfarewatchdog.com recently described both as “overrated”. Instead of Chicago, he advised visiting Detroit.
I don’t remember where he advised going instead of SF.
If you think SF is overrated, then don’t move here. I personally wouldn’t mind a little less traffic and more parking.
If you love where you live, then more power to you.
I have a feeling that the folks who are obsessed with dissing places that other people really love are folks who are not happy with their own circumstances and choices.
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Comment by MiddleCoaster
2013-04-11 12:57:03
Or they are writers trying to get attention and provoke a lot of outraged responses. That seemed to be the case with the destination-dissing.
Martinez’s response is from the No sh#t Sherlock column.
By Michael Allen, Wed, April 10, 2013
Pro-gun advocates are furious at Austin City Council member Mike Martinez, who appeared at a gun control rally, ‘Texas Rally for Gun Sense,’ in Austin, Texas on April 7 (video below).
During Martinez’s speech, he spotted a protester who goes by the name of “Texas George” holding up a “Stop the Gun Ban” sign and called him out, reported KHOU-TV.
“First of all, to the gentleman who is dying for attention, someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.
Yeah, cuz the First Amendment starts out with “A Well-Regulated Press…”
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Comment by michael
2013-04-11 08:25:24
“Stop the Gun Ban”
“First of all, to the gentleman who is dying for attention, someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.
my defintion of “well regulated” and mr. martinez’s (and apparently yours)…is completely different.
Comment by 2banana
2013-04-11 08:48:25
“Well regulated” meant “well equipped” and “well working” in the vernacular of the English language in the 1780’s
my defintion of “well regulated” and mr. martinez’s (and apparently yours)…is completely different.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-11 09:02:36
“Well regulated” meant “well equipped” and “well working” in the vernacular of the English language in the 1780’s
And arms meant single-fire pistols and muskets.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 09:32:52
This is the first reference I’ve heard that “regulated” meant “equipped.” A few websites compile quotes of the time period, and surmise that the meaning of “regulated” is closer to “trained and disciplined.”
The funny thing - the same exact arms that the standing army had.
If you hate the 2nd Amendment as it is written - then CHANGE it.
But your liberal double speak on taking slices of it away over time does not change the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
All it does is show the path to taking away all amendments (hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-11 10:21:00
(hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
Oh, so the Constitution is a ‘living document’, that must keep up with the times?
Well, the times show we need a little more control over who is buying and selling these weapons, since they clearly aren’t members of a well-regulated militia.
Comment by michael
2013-04-11 10:39:21
this entire thread was in response to some DB libtard politician that openly stated an outright ban was the ultimate goal…not “a little more control “.
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2013-04-11 11:25:11
Maybe that control/ban IS the “well-regulated” in “well-regulated militia”…
Comment by hazard
2013-04-11 11:32:04
“a little more control “?
DHS Contractor Apologizes For Selling Shooting Targets of Children
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 22, 2013
A company which received $2 million dollars from the DHS has apologized and taken offline “no more hesitation” shooting targets which depicted pregnant women, children, and elderly gun owners in residential settings as “non-traditional threats,” following an online uproar.
As we first reported on Tuesday, Law Enforcement Targets Inc. (LET), a Minneapolis based company that has received almost $2 million dollars in contracts from the Department of Homeland Security over the last three years, recently began selling cardboard cut-out targets designed to desensitize police to “non-traditional threats,”
The company’s relationship with the DHS, along with thousands of law enforcement agencies, led to fears that the targets could be connected with Homeland Security’s purchase of roughly 2 billion rounds of ammunition over the last year, which many fear is linked to preparations for mass social unrest. As we documented, the LET’s contracts with the DHS were for “training aids” and “paperboard”.
In its apology, posted on the company’s website as well as Facebook, LET acknowledged that the targets were requested by law enforcement agencies.
We apologize for the offensive nature of our “No More Hesitation” products. These products have been taken offline due to the opinions expressed by so many, including members of the law enforcement community.
A company which received $2 million dollars from the DHS has apologized and taken offline “no more hesitation” shooting targets…
So, are we too PC or not PC enough? Too many conflicting memes.
Comment by sfhomowner
2013-04-11 11:50:08
If you hate the 2nd Amendment as it is written - then CHANGE it.
But your liberal double speak on taking slices of it away over time does not change the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
All it does is show the path to taking away all amendments (hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
The MEANING and intent of the 2nd amendment is obviously still open to interpretation. If it wasn’t, then we wouldn’t still be having so much debate and contention over it.
It is disingenuous that the NRA and its supporters act like the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is a foregone conclusion.
The entire gun debate is “uniquely American”, especially the belief that democracy will inevitable collapse if we lose the right for everyone to own guns - something that the rest of the first world considers odd.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-11 13:21:25
There’s nothing ambiguous about the 2nd Amendment. It says and means you can own guns.
(arms also meant and still means, any weapon you can carry on your person and wield)
Comment by mathguy
2013-04-11 14:22:09
It’s funny that people always say the second amendment doesn’t cover multi round magazine weapons. There is clearly nothing in the second amendment restricting owning cannons, bombs, mortars, rockets, fuses, and other incendiary devices which were clearly present during the drafting of the constitution. Nor is there a restriction on owning ships of war. If the second amendment doesn’t restrict owning of cannons, why should a 30 shot assault rifle be restricted? OTOH, “incendiary devices” are also “illegal” at this time. Perhaps those second amendment persons should have fought harder to keep machine guns and bombs legal for the average citizen back in the day.
Comment by mathguy
2013-04-11 14:29:15
My point is basically this: if a device is determined to be “too destructive” for use by the public, then no law enforcement or military should have access to or use of these devices either. If it is evil to use poison gas or nuclear weapons and the public therefore has no need, then neither does the government. These rules should be “rules of war”, not rules of law.
Comment by knockwurst
2013-04-11 15:22:46
“There’s nothing ambiguous about the 2nd Amendment. It says and means you can own guns.
(arms also meant and still means, any weapon you can carry on your person and wield)”
Suitcase nukes? Surface to air shoulder fired missile launchers?
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-11 18:51:04
Suitcase nukes? Surface to air shoulder fired missile launchers?
Being furious at someone isn’t a violation of their first amendment rights. And, while relatively few people know this, shutting people up isn’t ususally a violation of their first amendment rights. It *is* a violation if it is the government doing the shutting up.
“someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.”
I personally am not “furious” but laughing about Martinez letting the cat out of the bag. (like it wasn’t already) I am sure he is getting a good talking to today.
We have the full video of exactly what happened and the man was protesting peacefully and didn’t say a word to Martinez. It was actually the Anti-Gun crowd that was “attacking” one person by swearing at him and blocking his sign. Martinez is a scumbag and a pawn of his sugar daddy Michael Bloomberg. The Pro Gun Advocate was doing nothing wrong, just standing there with his sign exercising his first amendment right. It was not DURING the speech, the first thing Martinez said as he came to the microphone was directed at the Pro Gun Advocate. He called the guy out, said somebody should inform him there isn’t a gun ban, but “with the work we’re doing here today, we’re going to make your sign legitimate.” To loud applauses by the ignorant crowd.
“So this is how liberty dies…with thunderous applause.”
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What ever happened to respecting other peoples opinion. its clear that Mike Martinez is a buffoon and come next election I wil be picketing non stop to vote him out!
Special to WorldTribune.com
ABU DHABI — Kuwait has reported the theft of a massive amount of
U.S. weapons.
A U.S. soldier on the range with an M-16 assault rifle.
The Interior Ministry said thieves broke into a warehouse and stole a
huge amount of firearms and ammunition. The ministry said 20,000 U.S.-origin M-16 assault rifles and 15,000 rounds for 9mm pistols were stolen.
“There were no guards during the break-in,” the ministry said on April
7.
The ministry said the target was a warehouse of the Interior Ministry in
Subiya, Middle East Newsline reported. The statement said thieves broke three doors and removed the entire contents of the warehouse.
Kuwait has been a major defense client of the United States. The U.S.
military has stationed some 13,000 troops, most of them assigned to
logistics, to the Gulf Cooperation Council sheikdom.
URI Police Respond to Report Of Gunman Armed With Pepper Spray
Matt Vespain
Politics,Guns
2 days ago
On April 4, a lone gunman was reportedly wandering around the University of Rhode Island in Kingston. Of course, campus police responded, but there was a problem. They weren’t carrying firearms. No gunman was found, but if this had turned into a violent incident, URI campus police would’ve been helpless to stop the perpetrator. They were able to secure Chaffee Hall, where the alleged gunman was, from the outside with their arsenal of batons and pepper spray, but had to wait until the arrival of armed state police to conduct a room-by-room search.
This incident shouldn’t give any student at the university, or residents in the surrounding community, peace of mind. These are the consequences of Rhode Island trying to “exemplify non-violence.” But unfortunately, violent criminals aren’t stopped by disarming law-abiding citizens.
On last night’s local Chicago news they showed surveillance video of a shop owner armed with a baseball bat taking out a gunman. Shop owner took a bullet and kept on swinging. He’s going to be fine. The robber and his accomplice got away– but not before accomplice was shot by his own comrade in crime. I doubt they’ll be at large for long. The gunman took quite a beating from the looks of it.
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-11 08:36:10
The more cock-sure the bulls get that the Bernanke put will always save their bacon, the more reckless their investing gambles become. Eventually their positions will be too foolish to rescue, at which point it will all come crashing down, no matter what amount of liquidity the Fed supplies to try to save Wall Street.
“Insider selling at the biggest technology companies hit a record pace over the last six months even as investors snatched up shares, pushing the Nasdaq Composite Index to a 12-year high. ”
OK we just got our raises taken away for the year kinda sucks
Sorry to hear that, cactus. My hubby works for Big Pharma (I know, gag) and even though the company stock has soared, all raises and promotions for this year have been cancelled because somebody or other didn’t meet the pie-in-the-sky goals of upper management. Corporate Amurka sucks big time.
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Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-11 11:44:40
Remember when personal performance guaranteed a raise? Now the company has to exceed unrealistic goals, which used to be a trigger for bonuses.
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-12 01:28:21
With a heaping helping of Bernanke bubble denial on top!
Central Bankers’ Giant Gamble
Apr 11 2013, 08:10 | includes: EWJ, UDN, UUP
Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. (More…)
Japan’s recent pledge to double its monetary base in an attempt to extricate itself from a two decade old deflationary cycle earns it a preeminent membership in the growing currency debasement club. The world is experiencing the greatest explosion of new money ever. Ostensibly, the exercise is designed to revive dormant, declining or barely growing economies. Since the 2007-09 financial crisis, the flood of new money has been singularly unsuccessful in promoting strong growth. At least in the United States, however, it has been eminently successful in pushing up stock prices.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has made it clear that higher stock prices are a prime goal of current Fed policy. Observing Bernanke’s success in rallying stocks, other central bankers and government officials have taken their cue from Ben. Mario Draghi’s “whatever it takes” pledge did marvels for stock prices throughout most of Europe until recent weeks. China Securities Regulatory Commission Chairman Guo Shuqing indicated even more specifically that it’s necessary to intervene in China’s stock market at “key moments” to accomplish government goals. The Bank of Japan has attacked the problem most directly by pledging to flood the markets with new money, not just by buying bonds but by purchasing REITs and equity ETFs as well. I, among others, believe that our Fed has had a more direct influence on stock prices than it has acknowledged. In any case, it has so far convinced investors that, like Draghi, it stands ready to do whatever it takes to keep prices rising.
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‘manhattan apartment rents jumped in march at the fastest pace in six months, sending rates to within about 2 percent of their peak, as limited inventory in the sales market fueled competition among tenants.
the median monthly rent climbed 6.7 percent from a year earlier to 3,195 … the vacancy rate for manhattan apartments fell to a two-year low of 1.46 percent in march, down from 1.69 percent the previous month and 1.89 percent a year earlier.’
“Rudeness and throwing insults are cutting online friendships short with a survey on Wednesday showing people are getting ruder on social media and two in five users have ended contact after a virtual altercation.
As social media usage surges, the survey found so has incivility with 78 percent of 2,698 people reporting an increase in rudeness online … One in five people have reduced their face-to-face contact with someone they know in real life after an online run-in.”
It wasn’t rudeness so much that finally got me to install the Joshua Tree extension, it was the broken record nature of the offending posters, who repeatedly post numbers and other “facts” that have been refuted on many occasions. They have nothing interesting or new to say, so why bother with them?
“One in five people have reduced their face-to-face contact with someone they know in real life after an online run-in.”
Prior to the advent of social media and internet commentary, I sometimes reduced my face-to-face contacts with people I knew in real life, after “real life” run-ins. Nothing new about that. The internet has made those events much more common.
We regularly shop for squadettes on Match, Plenty of Fish, Fitness Singles, Christian Mingle. Yesterday’s HBB banner ad was for some “Meet Chinese Women” dating website.
We went skiing at Loveland with M last weekend. And went out for coffee with A on Monday, but decided to break that off. And are skiing Arapahoe Basin with P this weekend. And are going rock climbing in Estes Park with R next week.
Why limit ourselves to just one, when the number of available squadettes is incalculable.
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2013-04-11 12:03:12
We went skiing at Loveland with M last weekend.
How does middle-class dating go in America these days?
Do girls ask you out too? Do they ask you if you’re dating others? Does the guy pay for everything? The internet works well for dating?
I’ve been off the market for so long I’m just curious what it’s like now.
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2013-04-11 13:28:28
Oooh, A-Basin.
Always been my fave in CO. Would like to get back there soon.
Which senator pushed the rider into the bill? At the time, no one stepped forward to claim credit. But since then, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) has revealed to Politico’s ace reporter David Rogers that he’s the responsible party. Blunt even told Rogers that he “worked with” GMO seed giant Monsanto to craft the rider.
The admission shines a light on Blunt’s ties to Monsanto, whose office is located in the senator’s home state. According to OpenSecrets, Monsanto first started contributing to Blunt back in 2008, when it handed him $10,000. At that point, Blunt was serving in the House of Representatives. In 2010, when Blunt successfully ran for the Senate, Monsanto upped its contribution to $44,250. And in 2012, the GMO seed/pesticide giant enriched Blunt’s campaign war chest by $64,250.
Blunt is also a magnet for PAC money from the agribusiness industry as a whole, OpenSecrets data shows. In 2012, agribiz PACs gave him $51,000—more than any other industry save for finance, insurance, and real estate (FIRE). In 2010, the year of his Senate run, agribiz PACs handed him over $243,000, more than any other besides the FIRE and energy industries.
The senator’s blunt, so to speak, admission that he stuck a rider into an unrelated bill at the behest of a major campaign donor is consistent with the tenor of his political career. While serving as House whip under the famously lobbyist-friendly former House Majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) during the Bush II administration, Blunt built a formidable political machine by transforming lobbying cash into industry-accomodating legislation. In a blistering 2006 report, Public Citizen declared Blunt “a legislative leader who not only has surrendered his office to the imperative of moneyed interests, but who has also done so with disturbing zeal and efficiency.”
Sure, you can say mouthbreather. And we can call you an elitist, bed-wetter liberal posting as a supposed moderate.
Here’s the deal: Every time you post something like “2Banana is a mouthbreather” or “2Banana is a retard”, I’m going to post that you’re an effete, ivy-league, ambulance-chasing, progressive socialist. How’s that work for you?
(CNN) — Every time Ellen Seidman hears the word “retarded,” she worries for her 9-year-old son, Max, who has cerebral palsy.
She wonders if people will ever respect him, or see him as an equal, if they associate that word with people like him, who have intellectual disabilities.
“I’m not saying that anyone who uses the word flippantly has something against people with special needs,” said Seidman, a magazine editor and mom blogger. “But it is a demeaning word even if it’s meant as a joke, because it spreads the idea that people who are cognitively impaired are either stupid or losers.”
it spreads the idea that people who are cognitively impaired are either stupid or losers.
Rather hard to avoid that ‘idea’ no matter what the actual terminology is. “Cognitive impairment” doesn’t imply much that is good / desirable / admirable / profitable / useful / beneficial / etc.
Even the term “best and brightest” has been impaired since about 1960.
So should Joe refer to 2banana as being intellectually disabled?
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Comment by goon squad
2013-04-11 15:22:41
The only “tard” here we can think of that warrants that title is Realtor troll Eddietard, who no longer posts here and is drowning in the tears resulting from the collapse of his failed Atlanta real estate empire.
2banana is not retarded, he just has a public union fetish.
I guess part of online civility is to post what this “rider” was actually about, so as to not leave the reader hanging?
a rider, wholly unrelated to the underlying bill, that compels the USDA to ignore federal court decisions that block the agency’s approvals of new GM crops.
Bascially the rider forces the USDA to approve GMO crops which are resistent to multiple pesticides, even if a court says USDA is not allowed to approve. The reason is that the approved GMO crops — the “Roundup ready” seeds — resulted in the evolution of weeds tolerant to Roundup. Monsanto needs to get its new stuff on the market pronto before the superweeds take over.
One claim politicians make is that there is too much workload to handle the individual components of these bills serially (one by one, one after another), so they handle them in parallel (many at once).
However, that just means that the same volume is being voted on, just that they are skipping doing due diligence on them.
If the legislative workload is too great in DC, they need to offload to the states, or to reduce their workload. They are eager to centralize power to themselves but unwilling to deal with the scholarly work that entails. They’re too busy out fundraising and schmoozing.
Politicians are more like party-addicted development officers than leaders.
It always amuses me that supposed independents and former Republicans on this blog state again and again how they’re not biased against any one party because they are both corrupt, yet constantly post items that bash the Republicans, without also posting against Democrats.
What’s your agenda Joe? Between you and Rio, you sound more like Democrat plants trying to relate to moderates on the blog and push them towards the idiocy of socialism, equality of outcomes, and wealth distribution that Democrats support…
As to your post, both party’s politicians put riders into bills for their political and financial supporters. What’s new about that? Nothing except the propaganda you’re spewing for the left.
I don’t have a problem with Eco or Alpha or other declared liberals because you know where they stand when they post. There is no subterfuge there. Same goes for 2Banana, Hazard, and TJ, who consistently support the right.
I also understand moderate viewpoints are fluid and aren’t necessarily consistent, but may change from issue to issue. However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party. That, to me is disingenuous, especially if there is another agenda at play.
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Comment by Blue Skye
2013-04-11 09:52:27
former conservatives….
I’m a former Paranoid. Now I know for real that they are out to get me.
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2013-04-11 10:57:05
However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party.
Golly gee wiz…..I wonder why, The world is such a mysteryious thing.. Why do formerr Republikans on this mean blog dis there former party?? It makes no cents. It’s soshalism.
(Hint: Maybe it’s because the Republican party has turned bat s#!t crazy the past 20 years.)
Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein
….We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.
…….The post-McGovern Democratic Party, by contrast, while losing the bulk of its conservative Dixiecrat contingent in the decades after the civil rights revolution, has retained a more diverse base. Since the Clinton presidency, it has hewed to the center-left on issues from welfare reform to fiscal policy. While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their 25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal post.
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2013-04-11 11:25:29
Why is this soshalist dissing his former party?????????
Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult
…..But both parties are not rotten in quite the same way. The Democrats have their share of machine politicians, careerists, corporate bagmen, egomaniacs and kooks. Nothing, however, quite matches the modern GOP.
To those millions of Americans who have finally begun paying attention to politics and watched with exasperation the tragicomedy of the debt ceiling extension, it may have come as a shock that the Republican Party is so full of lunatics….
…..It should have been evident to clear-eyed observers that the Republican Party is becoming less and less like a traditional political party in a representative democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties of 20th century Europe. This trend has several implications, none of them pleasant.
……Undermining Americans’ belief in their own institutions of self-government remains a prime GOP electoral strategy.
…..they don’t want those people voting. You can probably guess who those people are. Above all, anyone not likely to vote Republican. As Sarah Palin would imply, the people who are not Real Americans. Racial minorities. Immigrants. Muslims. Gays. Intellectuals. Basically, anyone who doesn’t look, think, or talk like the GOP base.
This must account, at least to some degree, for their extraordinarily vitriolic hatred of President Obama. I have joked in the past that the main administration policy that Republicans object to is Obama’s policy of being black.[2] Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some “other,” who is deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: Subversives. Commies. Socialists. Ragheads. Secular humanists. Blacks. Fa gs. Feminazis. The list may change with the political needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
….the business wing of the Republican Party consists of the most energetic outsourcers, wage cutters and hirers of sub-minimum wage immigrant labor to be found anywhere on the globe.
“However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party. That, to me is disingenuous, especially if there is another agenda at play.”
For the record, I am against all flavors of thought-free political dogma, including the Republican and Democrat flavors.
In case that makes me seem disingenuous, I frankly don’t give a damn.
Comment by joe smith
2013-04-11 13:15:11
I basically agree with this. It is very hard to imagine any political party remaining true to its stated values after it has been around for more than a few Presidential cycles. These two major parties are the basis for the corrupt system we have.
Comment by Northeastener
2013-04-11 13:50:47
So basically Rio is a reformed former Republican pushing a moderately liberal agenda while Joe is an independent pushing the corruption and incompetence of both parties.
Good to know…
Comment by Tea Billy
2013-04-11 13:54:26
You argue that both parties are the problem?
This is nothing new, the Federalist Papers predicted these problems and warned against them.
former Republicans on this blog state again and again how they’re not biased against any one party because they are both corrupt, yet constantly post items that bash the Republicans, without also posting against Democrats.
They were wrong when they were republicans. They are wrong when they are NOT republicans. That’s why.
Both parties *are* the problem.
The electorate is the basic problem. “Idiocracy” was a documentary.
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Comment by joe smith
2013-04-11 12:54:13
There is truth in this. I’ve been saying for a long time that we as Americans have the government that we deserve.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-11 13:05:59
From today’s Detroit News (no, I will not post a link)
Washington — A group hoping to prove alien contact with Earth has tapped former U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick to help convince the federal government to acknowledge the existence of extraterrestrials.
The Detroit Democrat and mother to former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick will help preside over 30 hours of congressional-style hearings April 29 to May 3 at Washington’s National Press Club. She did not respond to calls for comment.
Dubbed the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, the public panel pledges to expose evidence of “extraterrestrial vehicles” and a government effort to deny sightings of such craft commonly called UFOs.
Have no idea how that link got posted, detnews.com must have dunnit.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 15:58:21
News sites have gotten wise to people quoting them in blogs. If you select the whole thing to copy, some sites will insert a link automatically. You can see it in the reply box.
I am Independent. I’ve stated many times that I don’t want to join the DEM party even though it makes sense because I live in a very blue area of a very blue state. Previous to moving to MD, I had been registered as a Republican but I always had a problem with the fundy-types, that never changed.
My main point in posting was that anyone who shills for either party is a moron. I don’t agree with people who think the Dems are the answer, either. The only reason I voted for Obama was that Romney is a disgusting human being and I felt inclined to repudiate him. I wasn’t of the opinion that Obama was anywhere near perfect. Other than that, I didn’t vote for any Dems in 2012. Most of my support was for Independents, e.g. Rob Sobhani in the Senate race (running as an Independent, his numbers compared favorably to the GOP’s candidate, LOL).
Blunt knows the real payoff will come when he becomes a 5 hour a week, 7 figure lobbiest, taking all expensed lobbying trips with Senators to the Caymans.
My understanding is that they had a lot of single-asset, bankruptcy remote entities that had secured debt that were wholly owned subsidiaries of GGP. In BK, these lenders tried to grab the assets/keep the entities out of the BK, but GGP was successful keeping those “bankrupty remote” entities as part of the BK.
This is the major reason that they were able to emerge from BK without wiping out the common equity holders, and why their stock went from about $0.50 to now about $20.
I had the guts to buy other REITs that were in trouble at the time (which has worked quite well), but didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger on GGP. Ultimately, I think the GGP result helped the other REITs vis-a-vis their creditors (who many not have felt as “secure” after the GGP ruling).
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — Earning season is here. Are you still optimistic about 2013? In the fifth year of an aging bull? With Fed QE stalling? Cheap-money near ending? GDP falling to 2%? Commodities dropping? Political gridlock till 2016? No-new-taxes GOP? Tea Party’s demanding austerity? As unemployment rises? Euro zone near breakup? North Korea, Iran, Syria threatening? Market warnings, crash predicted, recession, cash out? How to factor all into your brain’s calculator?
You’re still an optimist? Knowing Wall Street will manipulate this old bull till it’s too late for you. Till they win, you lose. Again. Meanwhile, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke is blind, thinks he’s saving-the-world. Obama’s on a battlefield of saboteurs. And you’re an optimist?
Can you trust their numbers? Stop. The real question is: Can you trust your own judgment about the numbers? University of Chicago behavioral-finance guru Richard Thaler once said: “Think of the human brain as a personal computer with a very slow processor and a memory system that is small and unreliable.” Thaler went on, “the PC I carry between my ears has more disk failures than I care to think about.”
Yes, your little PC is fighting a high-tech war with Wall Street’s army of supercomputers loaded with trillions in high-frequency algorithms, manned by special-ops traders playing a casino game using high-altitude weapons systems targeting Main Street 24/7.
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The stock market is at a potentially “dangerous point,” says Marty Leclerc of Barrack Yard Advisors. Leclerc looks back at previous bear market peaks, and he thinks stocks have reached a similar ceiling that could determine whether stocks rise another 25-30%, or whether the next step is a 25% plunge.
Rental Watch: thank you for the insurance commissioner’s office information. they seem to take landlord fraud very seriously even though my property manager thinks it’s a trifle. will update soon!
I was trying to explain to my daugther (she’s 5) about lying the other day, and that while you think you can get away with it, it will always catch up with you (the truth is always the best policy)…and that if adults get caught lying, sometimes they can go to jail. That seemed to get her attention.
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-11 08:24:59
I’ve noticed bailouts nearly always prove to be larger than initially advertised.
To put this into perspective, the population of Cyprus was 1,116,564 as of 2011 — about 1/3 the population of San Diego County, California. So a 23 billion euro bailout averages out to 20.6 thousand euros per man, woman and child — not hopelessly insurmountable, but plenty big, especially if you more realistically averaged it over working adults.
The cost of the bailout for Cyprus has increased to 23bn euros ($30bn; £19.5bn), according to a draft document prepared by the country’s creditors.
The original cost of the bailout was put at 17.5bn euros.
But the new total, disclosed in a document seen by news agencies, means Cyprus will have to find 13bn euros to secure 10bn euros from the European Union and the IMF.
Previously it was thought that Cyprus would have to raise 7.5bn euros.
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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-11 08:37:44
It would be interesting to compare this to U.S. money when there was no central bank (e.g. second half of 1800s). I suspect volatility was a similar issue in a Fedless monetary system…
Indeed. Here’s the thing about volatility. It’s a trader’s dream. Having had some experience with trading SLV in my personal account in 2011, I can say that it is fairly easy to profit from.
The question is the latest bout of volatility a natural extension of over-exuberance (and dare we say a bubble) or a more sinister symptom. I’ve read that DDoS attacks against bitcoin exchanges are becoming more common and that it is being done to create volatility (by generating lag in trade reporting which opens up bid/ask spreads) which hackers are taking advantage of, in the same way Wall St. takes advantage of Main St. Just another way to shake out the weak hands?
What Odd Items Did DHS Try To Purchase (And Then Suddenly Cancel)?
Apr. 11, 2013 9:27am
Becket Adams
Well here’s a bit of a mystery.
The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday posted an online combined synopsis/solicitation for the following items:
LI 001: Carbon Bagpipe Drone Reed Set, 5, EA;
LI 002: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Easy, 12, EA;
LI 003: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Medium, 12, EA;
LI 004: Deluxe Bagpipe Bag Covers w/ Non-slip Grap Patch and Zipper, 5, EA;
LI 005: Drone Cords, 5, EA;
LI 006: Highland Bagpipe Tuner and Metronome with cases, 2, EA;
LI 007: Combination Tuner and Metronome, 6, EA;
LI 008: Black Polypenco Bagpipes w/ cases, 10, EA;
etc.
Not long after the Drudge Report linked to the DHS page, the listing was updated Thursday to show that it had been cancelled by the federal agency:
Still, two questions remain: What in the world does the DHS need with bagpipes and miscellaneous band equipment? Was it somehow for one of the military bands? If not, or even if so, how much would it have cost taxpayers?
We may not know for some time. A request for comment was not immediately returned by a DHS spokesperson.
We appreciate the links there to stories that the bedwetter media refuses to touch, i.e. ammo shortages, infowars articles about the gun grabbers, incidents of “youths” or “students” looting a 7-Eleven or going wilding in Chicago.
Youths robbing a 7-11 isn’t particularly newsworthy. However, this bagpipe story is big news. Have you run down to the bagpipe store to stock up? I imagine that once the news gets out, the price of bagpipes will rise dramatically. With go time coming up, you’ll want to make sure that your properly supplied.
The coastal elitist bedwetter media were slobbering over themselves in their reporting of the Trayvon Martin shooting last year (Obama: if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon).
But purposefully omitting all of the black-on-white “Justice For Trayvon” incidents of violence that followed.
It would be nice if all those COEXIST stickers actually meant something, but humanoids are a tribal species, and unfortunately they don’t.
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Comment by MightyMike
2013-04-11 19:43:50
I think that you missed the point in the Trayvon story. The newsworthy issue in that case was that it appeared that the killer wasn’t going to be even charged. That’s probably an extremely rare occurrence when a black person is arrested for killing a white.
LI 001: Carbon Bagpipe Drone Reed Set, 5, EA;
LI 002: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Easy, 12, EA;
LI 003: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Medium, 12, EA;
LI 004: Deluxe Bagpipe Bag Covers w/ Non-slip Grap Patch and Zipper, 5, EA;
LI 005: Drone Cords, 5, EA;
LI 006: Highland Bagpipe Tuner and Metronome with cases, 2, EA;
LI 007: Combination Tuner and Metronome, 6, EA;
LI 008: Black Polypenco Bagpipes w/ cases, 10, EA;
These are weapons of mass destruction. Let us pray that DHS will limit itself to buying only enough dum-dum bullets to kill the US population thrice over.
So, now that Obama has declared $205k of retirement income as perfectly sufficient for everyone, will he cap state and federal pensions at the same level? Seems only “fair”…
“Prohibit Individuals from Accumulating Over $3 Million in Tax-Preferred Retirement Accounts. Individual Retirement Accounts and other tax-preferred savings vehicles are intended to help middle class families save for retirement. But under current rules, some wealthy individuals are able to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving. The Budget would limit an individual’s total balance across tax-preferred accounts to an amount sufficient to finance an annuity of not more than $205,000 per year in retirement, or about $3 million for someone retiring in 2013. This proposal would raise $9 billion over 10 years.”
My beef with this is that MANY government pensions, when you look at them on an annuity basis, are worth FAR more than $3MM.
“Automatic IRAs. The budget would automatically enroll employees without a retirement plan at work in IRAs. The contributions would be withheld from paychecks and directly deposited in a retirement account unless workers opt out. A federal government match would also be provided for low income savers via the saver’s tax credit. Small employers would be eligible for tax credits for the administrative costs of setting up the plans. The budget also doubles the tax credit for small employers that start new retirement plans for workers.”
My question is also what kind of IRAs are limited? All? Or just those funded with pre-tax $? In other words, will Roth IRAs also be limited?
Seems silly to limit the Roth IRAs, since withdrawing $ from them won’t trigger any additional tax revenues…but then again, I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.
This is especially the case since I fully expect SS and Medicare to be means tested in the future…wealthy folks need to have more in savings, because their costs are going to be higher (government subsidies lower).
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Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 12:50:54
I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.
Obama isn’t taking away ANY incentives. The incentive is only taken away at the $3 Million mark. After that you pay some tax.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-11 13:08:04
Obama isn’t taking away ANY incentives. Obama’s chosen one, the Bernank, is the one who is taking away as many possible incentives to save. Saving, like hoarding, is an anti-American activity deserving of the strongest dis-incentives possible.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 13:11:03
“isn’t taking away ANY incentives. The incentive is only taken away ”
I’m not sure these two sentences go together.
If Obama wants to curtail Romneyish IRAs, there are ways to do that other than a cap on IRA account values (restrict the type of investing that can be done through IRAs would be the simplest way).
Otherwise, capping PRIVATE individual retirement savings, when leaving PUBLIC pensions completely unchecked (who get the same benefit of tax-free investment growth from contribution to receiving the pension payment) is a slap in the face to individuals trying to plan for their own retirement–without the aid of government or large company pension systems.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-11 13:18:56
capping PRIVATE individual retirement savings, when leaving PUBLIC pensions completely unchecked
Public pensions are theoretically ‘checked’ by our elected representatives. Of course that process is completely broken, or has been ‘borked’.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 16:08:27
Sorry RW, bad English. I was responding to your sentence: ‘”I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.”
By “any,” I guess you implied “all.” I meant that Obama isn’t taking “any” or “all” the incentives. You’re free to take all the tax breaks you want up to $3 million. Since there are contribution limits to tax-advantaged accounts, it’s pretty difficult to get to $3 million.
I honestly don’t know how that would affect the Fed pensions.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-11 19:11:21
I can’t stash hundreds of millions in my tax-free retirement account? It’s Go Time! Send in the Scotch-Irish, I’ll be monitoring the situation from my chalet in Switzerland.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 22:31:28
@Ox, I don’t think we are thinking about this the same way.
If my 401k/IRA grows past $3MM due to strong investment returns (federal tax deferred), Obama would like to force me to sell any amount over $3MM, and disallow me from contributing more, because $3MM should be enough to give me $205k per year…and that is deemed by him to be enough.
However, if the piece of a state sponsored pension plan grows (ALSO federal tax deferred) to a level that supports a state employee’s retirement of greater than $205k annually, that’s OK, and if that employee’s plan allows them to sell back their vacation in the last year of their career to spike up their pension amount to $300k or even more, well, that’s OK too.
An individual’s federal tax deferral to fund their retirement? Limited “annuity” allowed to the non-government employee.
A state pension’s federal tax deferral to fund their employees’ retirements? Unlimited “annuity” allowed to the government employee.
Otherwise, you are asking me to pay for public employees’ cushy retirement, while you won’t even let me save for my own cushy retirement. F that.
Comment by Northeastener
2013-04-11 14:01:45
Come on Rental… it’s all about equality of outcomes. No one needs more than $200k/year in retirement accounts. Obviously, if you’ve successfully accumulated more than that, the government should take it from you and provide more to those less successful.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-11 14:08:21
You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions as well as paying the SAME taxes you and I pay, right?
Right? You do know this?
Your concern should be the waste that goes to the defense sector, like the trillion dollar wars we just fought.
A trillion $ pay a lot of pensions… and medicine and SS, and…
Comment by sfhomowner
2013-04-11 14:48:12
You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions
Last I checked (my March paycheck), my monthly contribution to CALSTRS (Ca State Teachers Retirement System, part of CALPERS) was $750 month.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 15:22:42
“You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions as well as paying the SAME taxes you and I pay, right?”
And you do realize that despite those deductions, there is not a single state in the union that has funded their retiree healthcare benefits, and the vast majority of states have their pension system significantly UNDERfunded, right?
And that a significant reason for the underfunded portion is because of excessive pensions (pension spiking, early retirement and large pensions for high earners) that the unions refuse to curtail, and that for the shortfall, the pension systems are looking to taxpayers to make them whole, right?
If it’s OK for a public union employee to put aside their own money (combined with some taxpayer $) so that they can have a >$205,000 annual pension, why can’t I do it with my own money (with no taxpayer assistance/backstop)?
This is a few years old, but the big picture numbers don’t change much:
As of this report, 78% of public sector pensions were funded…7 states were over 90%, with only 2 being fully funded. CA was at 81%, IL was at about 51% (ouch). Over half of the states were under 80% funded.
As of this report, 5% of healthcare benefits were funded.
That’s right…5%. Over half a Trillion $ in liability that has no source other than taxpayer $.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 15:47:55
@sfhomeowner, I have no problem with math that works. The problem is that the math doesn’t work.
Example, pension spiking:
You pay an amount relative to your salary for your entire career–carefully calculated. Let’s say, present salary of $x annually. In the last year of your career, you sell back your vacation/work overtime, etc., and so your salary for your last year is 125% of $x.
for some government employees, your pension is now based on 125% of $x…for others, say 108% of $x (if it’s the average of the last 3 years).
That particular employee didn’t pay into the system based on a pension at that level…and 125% of $x isn’t an extreme case, but over time all of that underfunding catches up with the system.
And I haven’t even touched the fact that the State is guaranteeing a certain return on the pension.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 15:52:17
“A trillion $ pay a lot of pensions… and medicine and SS, and…”
Since pensions are paid for only by the government employees, can we cross “pensions” off that list?
Comment by oxide
2013-04-11 16:10:42
At least distinguish between Federal and State employees, okay? Obama has nothing to do with retired firefighter pensions.
Under the current Fed system, you would be hard pressed to get to $3 million in any tax-advantaged account.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-11 16:28:15
@oxide:
That’s fine, but the state pensions get Federal tax breaks too, right? Just like IRAs? In that regard, they are no different.
With respect to the limit being OK because it’s hard to get there anyway…that’s a perfect argument for not complicating things more by instituting a limit (that incidentally only raises $900MM per year of additional revenue).
Have you considered contribution limits of SEP IRAs?
401k with employer match?
If you are a diligent saver/investor, reaching the limit can be done.
My quick back of napkin is if you grow the $3MM cap with inflation, and we continue to max out my wife’s 401k, and it grows (in the stock market) at 7% annually, her retirement accounts will exceed the limit.
If the limit goes down as interest rates rise (the $3MM was based on an annuity–Bloomberg noted that the limit would be more like $2MM if interest rates moved to where they were in 2006), we hit the limit well before retirement.
If we are successful investors, and exceed 7% per year, we hit the limit even sooner.
Oh, and the justification of those government pensions being worth more is that the people made more during their careers, and so they should have higher annuities…
I have been trying to rent a house. 3/2/2 type thing. First one I looked at was trashed on the inside. On the second, the owner was waffling on renting. The third I found that I liked and scheduled a showing, telling the agent I needed a place right away, and he mentioned everyone seems to be saying they are 2-3 months away from move in. This house has been vacant since early Feb. The next day the agent calls and says a family moving from out of state who looked at it a “month ago” called and says they’ll take it, but I can be the backup. I liked the house so I told the agent I’ll take it immediately and screw those other people. He has been waffling all week, and finally called today and said he never got the app back from the first family, he checked my credit, and I’m “golden” just like I told him it would be. So we get to the lease and I requested some standard verbiage be added in event of lease termination, as we had discussed on Monday he said that wouldn’t be a problem. Well today its a big problem and now they have a couple showings this weekend again. ( I have enough liquid funds to buy this house for cash). I told him if I don’t have a signed lease by EOD, I was making alternate arrangements and he can kiss the opportunity to help me buy in the future goodbye.
gosh I’m so darn frustrated with this process, makes me want to go to walmarts, buy a damn Coleman tent, and set up in the state park.
“everyone seems to be saying they are 2-3 months away from move in”
Find out who is saying that, wait the 2-3 months until they are evicted and move in there. I know of a couple that did that in 2009 and they are still there rent free.
Why are real estate agents such damn liars?
I am finding the concern of many businessmen for good-faith dealing with potential customers is nowhere near what it used to be. This is not limited to the real estate industry. I recently succeeded at locating a source for materials to patch the aluminum siding on my house. On my journey, which took several months, I met quite a few contractors who gave me off-the-cuff estimates for aluminum siding, yet who were totally unaware of the suppliers. I felt they were just making up their ‘facts’ in order to support their basic goal of selling an entire house worth of vinyl siding.
Google searches for ‘aluminum siding’ turned up vast numbers of companies and contractors, none of whom actually provides that. They just use the tag to catch the search engines.
I sent some email queries through links on company websites, places like Alsides (an originator of aluminum siding) asking if they still supplied same - no answers yet received. I don’t expect any.
My niece recently checked out dentists in her area so that she could have a large 20-year-old piece of bridgework replaced. One dental office told her there was a $100 charge for a consultation just to get an estimate of the cost of the work. After she had committed herself to that and showed up at the office, she spent most of her time with a recent dental grad, not the experienced prosthodontist she thought she was to see. She spoke to the ‘main man’ for only a few seconds. Then she was told the charge for an actual estimate was an additional $500 on top of the original charge, which was only the cost of applying for a binding estimate! What a rip-off.
May have to hit the secondary market.
Won’t be necessary. Alsco Metals will provide. Norandex is one of 3 distributors local to me. They even gave me a free 3 foot long sample to match to my existing siding. There were some slight differences which will not matter, since a couple of weeks of exposure to local dust & pollen will mask the differences. Their counterman has a long grey beard & actual experience hanging, maintaining & repairing aluminum siding in my area. He gave me some very good tips on things I needed to know. The warehouseman had a little less grey hair, along with personal and local installation & maintenance experience. Those 2 men alone were worth more than all the others I had previously contacted, put together. After I get my metal roof installed, will fix my siding. Just hope my 2 personal resources stay alive until then!
the Bernake was wrong it’s comming back to bite us
“Then there was earlier news that an investment fund backed by Qatar has bought London’s famed Park Lane Hotel for more than $475 million. The price marked a whopping 62 percent premium to the price asked for the hotel in December. In the first quarter alone, commercial property sales in London were up 71 percent compared to 2012. And two thirds of those sales were by foreign buyers.
Stocks, old letters and London hotels all reaching new highs. What’s the connection?
Global asset reflation. That may sound technical, but economists say that the somewhat baffling rise in U.S. stocks can be best explained by looking at asset values more broadly around the world. The river of money coursing around the globe is now approaching the flood stage, fed by a downpour of cash from the Federal Reserve and now from the Bank of Japan.
All that cash is searching for a home, and unlike water, cash tends to seek higher ground rather than the lowest. So all of the world’s cash is pouring into higher quality assets with little concern for underlying values or economic fundamentals.”
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Foreign exchange dealers remember them as two of the craziest trading days in history.
Between the start and close of business on Oct. 7 and Oct. 8 in 1998, the dollar dropped against the yen by almost 15% from peak to trough as banks and hedge funds let loose an avalanche of buy orders for the Japanese currency.
Daily turnover in the dollar versus the highly liquid yen was in those days second only to the greenback versus the Deutschemark, yet bid-ask spreads — the difference between the price at which buyers will pay and that which sellers are offering — gapped out on those two days to an unprecedented one-yen difference. In a sign that dollar buyers were few and far between, some traders barked out orders in “big figure” numerals — “129 bid, 130 offered” — ignoring the suddenly irrelevant decimal points in between.
Japanese 10,000 yen.
The intensity of that market dislocation, and the sweeping global events that led to it, offer a warning about disruptions to the global financial system from the yen’s current downturn. The currency’s violent snapback 15 years ago, occurring at the height of the Asian financial crisis, was preceded by a three-year decline in the yen, not unlike that which yen bears forecast as the outcome from the Bank of Japan’s recent move to ramp up its monetary stimulus.
As with now, Japanese authorities believed strongly in 1995 that the yen was overvalued. With the dollar dropping as low as Y79.92 in April that year, Japan’s powerful export sector was suffocating while the economy strained under the costs of the Kobe earthquake. So the Bank of Japan boosted its routine “Rinban” bond-buying operations while Tokyo sought and received Washington’s blessing for a weaker yen. A massive reversal ensued. By August 1998, the dollar had almost doubled in value to a peak of Y147.62.
The yen-weakening policy kept Japanese exporters happy and pleased the U.S. Federal Reserve because it put a lid on inflation. But it also unraveled the “Asian miracle.” Businesses in Thailand, Korea, Indonesia and other “tiger” economies came under increasing pressure as Japan’s competitiveness improved. And as their external trade balances deteriorated, speculators targeted these countries’ pegged currencies, eventually triggering a domino collapse that would envelope the whole world.
Meanwhile, the short-selling bets that traders had placed against the falling yen were planting the seeds of their own destruction. With Japan’s struggling economy paying the lowest interest rates in the world, global investors had piled into the so-called yen carry trade. They borrowed cheaply in yen and invested the proceeds in higher-yielding currencies such as the Thai baht and Russian ruble. But when the crisis unfolded and investors closed out those positions, they had to buy back the yen to repay their loans. In October 1998, after Wall Street banks bailed out Long-Term Capital Management and unwound its global portfolio of risky bets, these periodic “short-covering” rallies morphed into one all-encompassing stampede.
Is Japan now setting up a similar global disruption? Its central bank is about to unleash an unprecedented wave of money into the global system and traders, anticipating its effect, have driven the yen down 22% since its peak in September.
Much is different this time. There are far fewer pegged currencies for speculators to target, and giant stockpiles of foreign reserves mean emerging market central banks are well-armed to protect themselves. Still, the lessons from the 1990s are compelling and in this case it’s more important that the advanced nations of Europe read them than developing countries.
No one can confuse the euro zone’s zombie-like economies for the booming Southeast Asian tigers of the 1990s. But there’s a risk of overvaluation building up in European bond markets that’s reminiscent of Asia’s artificially propped up currencies in the 1990s.
Despite Cyprus’s banking meltdown and a toxic mix of unemployment and social malaise that threatens to revive the euro zone’s financial crisis, bond yields for core European economies hit record lows this week as funds pivoted out of Japanese government bonds in search of higher yields. Everyone wanted to get ahead of the Bank of Japan’s forthcoming wall of money. Alongside the Federal Reserve’s monthly print run of $85 billion, the BOJ’s plan to purchase Y7 trillion ($70 billion) in bonds per month will have a profound effect on global asset valuations. The risk is that those valuations detach from reality and must eventually correct, as they did 15 years ago.
Then there’s the question of how China and other big exporting nations respond to the competitive threat of a sharply weaker yen. As with the Asian crisis, a potentially vicious cycle of “competitive depreciations” looms.
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan’s former budget director, is getting plenty of blowback from his new book, “The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America,” and his Easter Sunday piece in the New York Times calling the U.S. “state wrecked.”
“I’m not a real author,” Stockman said last week during a panel discussion at the Society of American Business Editors and Writers Conference at George Washington University. “According to some, I do rants and screeds and gold-buggery.”
Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who is 60 years old himself, called Stockman, who is 66, “a cranky old man.”
Krugman also wrote, “The verdict among everyone who knows anything is that Stockman’s piece, mysteriously given star treatment, was pathetic and embarrassing. It’s full of big numbers that are scary because they’re big numbers.”
To Krugman and others who argue against Stockman, the U.S. economy is plenty big enough to manage its burgeoning debt load. Plus, interest rates are so low that the world is virtually paying the U.S. to take its money. So why not borrow trillions and trillions more until the economy recovers?
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So why not borrow trillions and trillions more until the economy recovers?
Time alone will tell. We real people will have only the rest of our lifetimes to deal with these ‘pathetic and embarrassing’ situations.
Money printing to increase the wealth of a society is not a new tack. We know where it can lead.
Debt ultimately didn’t matter after World War II because it was reduced as a percentage of GDP. This is what they’re hoping for. But the US was reaching the zenith of empire after WWII. Now the US and Europe are mature economies. Can we expect growth rates which will once again reduce the percentage of debt to GDP to safer levels?
We know what massive debt and money printing has done in other countries. The intelligentsia aren’t sure where this is all leading. They’re counting on a predictable and controlled failure model if this approach does start failing. Is that even true?
I’d prefer economic policies that don’t threaten the currency, the basis of the entire economy. Forcing Congress to focus on leadership instead of fundraising, and creating an economic environment which creates a healthy, long term environment with predictable rules.
The current policy makers always quote Keynes - “In the long run we are all dead.” But I don’t think that meant to utterly ignore the long term.
a predictable and controlled failure model if this approach does start failing. Is that even true?
Only time will tell. Predictions are neither true nor false until the results are known.
Personally, Federal legislation doesn’t worry me nearly as much as the BS the states are pulling currently. Let the bill come up for a vote. We’ll get every RINO and Democrat gun-grabber on record regarding their support for 2A. There will be a price to pay come the next election cycle.
Thank you for posting that. “Go time” should be very interesting when it happens. We are very much looking forward to personally re-enacting critically acclaimed film “Red Dawn” when it does.
Not for nothin but 2 Black Hawk helicopters flew over Northern Palm Beach County today low and slow. They are the first Black Hawks I have seen down here since Bill Clinton broke his ankle at Greg Normans house in the 90s and they were not low or slow.
April 09, 2013
Biden: ‘The Black Helicopter Crowd is Really Upset’
Vice President Joe Biden blasted the NRA for engaging in a “disinformation” campaign meant to “scare people” from supporting background checks.
“Kinda scary man, the black helicopter crowd is really upset,” Biden said about the NRA’s concern with the possible creation of a federal government gun registry.
Biden was speaking at the White House with Attorney General Eric Holder on reducing gun violence and was joined by law enforcement officials from across the country.
Foundry work is one of my hobby interests. Is a small cannon considered a firearm at all? It has a magazine of sorts, not attached at all.
LOL on the list of countries. I didn’t see many there which overthrew a dictator in their past with firearms. Spoons don’t help much against dictators.
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-04-11 19:01:08
Chingachgook lies dead I hear.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-11 19:22:33
The illuminati are flying the gun-snatching, gay-marriage-legalizing, sharia-law-instituting black helicopters! That are practicing over Florida beaches.
Now it all makes sense. Thanks, jethro.
Comment by Northeastener
2013-04-12 08:32:50
Is a small cannon considered a firearm at all? It has a magazine of sorts, not attached at all.
Anything over .50 cal is considered a destructive device and heavily regulated by the BATFE. So, no, a cannon, nor any artillery, is considered a firearm and doesn’t fall under the auspices of the 2A by current law.
Having said that, if you want a cannon, there are ways of getting one legally. It just costs a bit in time, money and paperwork.
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb Thrower™
2013-04-12 01:09:55
With people leaving California in droves, and a dismal economy to boot, where it the housing demand coming from these days to prop up prices at bubblelicious levels?
California Governor Jerry Brown (R) shakes hands with China Minister of Commerce Gao Hucheng before a meeting at the Ministry of Commerce on April 10, 2013 in Beijing, China. Brown is in China in an effort to secure Chinese investment in his state of California. (Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)
While Governor Jerry Brown is in China touting the state’s rebound and recovery, many Californians are busy packing their bags for a move to Texas, Nevada or Arizona. Why? Because it appears that the once-Golden State may finally be overpriced, underperforming and ungovernable.
Is it possible that one state has managed to top every 50-state category on the following shameful list?
* Highest taxes (gasoline, sales and top bracket of income taxes)
* Lowest bond rating
* Highest poverty rate (at 23.5%, the home of 1/3 of those in poverty in U.S.)
* Highest unemployment rate (tied with Mississippi and Nevada at 9.6%)
* Highest energy costs
* Worst state to do business (as judged by Chief Executive magazine 8 years running)
* Most cities going bankrupt
* Prison system so poorly run it has been taken over by a federal judge
And California has managed to do this during its rebound, its good years, according to Jerry Brown who, if not Governor Moonbeam in his second coming as the state’s leader, is clearly not in touch with life on Planet California.
Although there is argument about this, there shouldn’t be: people are leaving the state. The data shows that there has been a net out-migration from California to other states since 1990, balanced for awhile by immigration from other countries. But by 2005 that had eroded, too, with birth rates in the state also dropping at an incredible rate. Over the past two decades, a net 3.4 million people have left the state. And this is before the 2013 increase in income tax rates which prompted even liberal TV talker Bill Maher to complain that “it’s outrageous what we (millionaires) are paying” in taxes, “over 50%,” warning “liberals, you could actually lose me.”
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Yesterday there was a news story that Pres. Obama was encouraging loans to J6P because “it didn’t make sense for banks to lend.” I asked that, since banks had never really “lent,” but instead had sold all their risk on the secondary market during the bubble, why didn’t they sell on the secondary market now?
Comment by DaniW
2013-04-10 19:15:49
There is no more secondary market.
Dani, do you or anyone else have more information on this? What happened? Did Fannie and Freddie finally slam the barn door shut so they can deal with the existing toxic waste? If the secondary market has disappeared, then this would be huge. Most of HBB is in agreement that securitization fueled the bubble. If there is no selling up the food chain, then there will be no bubble. The only fuel we have now is foreign cash, hedge fund OPM, and a few responsible savers with 740 FICO’s and 10% cash down. Unlike *poof* money, there is a finite amount of all of this.
A year ago, I bought my house at ~35% off peak. The boomlet raised my house value to ~28% off peak (if Zillow is to be trusted). I don’t expect it to rise much more. ISTM, even if banks restrict inventory hoping to manipulate the comps upward, there simply isn’t enough cash or potential rental stream to blow the current boomlet back up to peak 2006 prices.
All those folks who bought or cashed out in 2006 can’t count on appreciation to get them above water. They will have to get above water the old fashioned way: by making actual payments on principle — on Lucky Duck wages. No wonder Pres. Obama is desperately trying to woo the banks again. And where does FHA come into this?
i thought like 95% of all new mortgages since 2008 were FHA loans…cash buyers don’t need loans…i hope hedge funds are eligible for an FHA loan…and i hope foreigners are not eliglbe either.
there must be a secondary market…the federal reserve perhaps?
Lack of secondary market means there is no private secondary market. When there was a private secondary market, demand for loans was huge. They couldn’t sell bonds if they didn’t have loans to securitize. So they paid a lot to the originators to get those bonds - probably through some sort of up front fee to deliver X number of loans. Fannie and Freddie may still be securitizing, but they aren’t competing with private securitizers anymore, so I am sure the fees are down to nice dull rates, probably just the fees they can get away with charging the borrowers and those may be limited for loans they want to sell to F&F.
Speculating here, but who would pay high fees for loans if the banks want to get rid of them and you are the only buyer in town? (Where is Englishman in NJ when you need him?) And with limited fees for the originator and a lot of work to document that the loan conforms to F&F rules and the possibility you might be forced to buy it back if it turns out later that the borrower wasn’t actually qualified, there is limited reason to concentrate on that part of your business. It doesn’t have a lot of profit growth potential.
There is no private secondary market because the government-sponsored secondary market offers terms that no private lender would offer because they are guaranteed to lose money.
Given that other bailouts have registered in the hundreds of billions of dollars, this figure sounds way fishy.
Obama expects FHA bailout to be $943M
Published: April 10, 2013 12:56 PM
By REUTERS
President Barack Obama speaks in the Rose Garden
Photo credit: Bloomberg News | President Barack Obama speaks in the Rose Garden on his proposed budget. With him is Jeffrey Zients, acting director of the Office of Management and Budget. (April 10, 2013)
WASHINGTON - The cash-strapped Federal Housing Administration may need a $943 million taxpayer bailout to cover expected losses from loans it insured as the U.S. housing bubble was deflating, the Obama administration said April 10.
It would be the first bailout of the government’s mortgage insurer in its nearly 80-year history.
The FHA, which has struggled to manage a glut of delinquent mortgages, will likely need the bailout given the shortfall in its reserves, the administration said in President Barack Obama’s fiscal 2014 budget proposal.
FHA Commissioner Carol Galante said the agency might still be able to avoid taking aid from the U.S. Treasury despite the projected budget hole. The agency has until Sept. 30 to decide whether it needs a cash infusion.
“FHA, while still under stress from legacy loans, has made significant progress and is on a sound fiscal path forward,” Galante told reporters on a conference call. “We are continuing to act and do everything possible to ensure that the impact of these legacy loans . . . are corrected as soon as possible.”
The FHA is required by Congress to keep enough cash on hand to cover all expected future losses and must take a taxpayer subsidy if its projected revenue falls short.
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April 11, 2013, 11:24 a.m. EDT
Government refinancing program extended two years
By Ruth Mantell
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Troubled homeowners will have another two years to use a government refinancing program, which has been extended through the end of 2015, officials said Thursday. The Home Affordable Refinance Program, which enables refinancing for borrowers with loans backed by Freddie Mac (FMCC -6.44%) or Fannie Mae (FNMA -5.81%), had been slated to expire at the end of this year. “We are extending the program so more underwater borrowers can benefit from lower interest rates,” said Edward DeMarco, acting director of the agency that regulates Fannie and Freddie. Since starting in 2009, the program has helped more than 2.2 million borrowers refinance.
Refinancing old loans is not the same thing as buying the old loans in the form of bonds on the secondary market.
The new loans can be different in all sorts of ways like requiring the borrower to document their income at the time of the refinancing, lower rates, limiting the payment to income ratio, etc.
Are you still stuck with a loan securitized by a house? Yes. But a new loan is a new loan. It isn’t a bond backed by the old loan.
“Refinancing old loans is not the same thing as buying the old loans in the form of bonds on the secondary market.”
Understood.
The reason I posted that was to corroborate my assertion that these government sponsored enterprises operate by different rules than do private securitizers, rules which let them take policy actions deemed to be in the public interest which dump losses onto taxpayers, share holders and bond owners. Imagine a private securitizer crowing in a press release about a new policy which instantly generates a 6% hit to their share price. The CEO would probably be fired the next day!
Thank you Polly. And my understanding is that the private secondary market sold the loans to Fannie Freddie — tertiary market? — anyway. F&F were private at the time, but they had that implied gov guarantee (which was invoked in 2008-9 IIRC).
F&F was still buying as of a year ago, but they are pickier. F&F needs to buy new good loans and use the interest payments to backstop the older crap. My bank told me up front they intended to sell to Fannie. Some of the hoops I jumped were solely to please Fannie and not the bank.
FHA is not a walk in the park. FHA charges hefty PMI and service fees. PMI goes away at 22% equity, but the service fees never go away. I think they calculated that for me, it would be something like $150-$250/month. You pay dearly for having 3.5% down.
During the boom, the private secondary market sold their bond directly to banks and insurance companies and pension funds and anyone else who wanted to buy triple A rated bonds. Stuff that happened later was purchases by the Fed or by hedge funds/private equity who thought the value of the bonds would come back at least from the ultra low prices they thought they were getting. Other than that? Bonds trade. People buy and sell them. Just like stock. However, I don’t see any reason why Fannie and Freddie would buy toxic waste bonds. They are mortgage securitizers. They sell bonds. They don’t have any use for a large portfolio of bonds from other securitizers.
sounds like you and oxide are “whistling pass the graveyard”…grasping at straws to avoid being critical of this administrations policies.
good luck with that.
Denial. It’s their favorite flavored KoolAide
“You’ve got rocks in your head.”
And they’re living there RENT FREE!!
What’s your Mack truck discount today, my little sweet patatah piah? Beige Dutch-lap siding for those “brick front” mansions?
And how far underwater are you? Carrying those rocks must get tiresome.
Not very underwater today, fuzzy chickadee. Check back tomorrow — hear there’s gonna be a 65% off sale.
Offload some of those rocks and come up for air like millions of other debt-junkies have.
I should have qualified my statement, but am rather surprised you do not know. This is the whole cause of the recession. Maybe we’re not talking about the same thing.
The secondary market were all those mortgage based securities(MBS) bond funds that went belly up. They were buying the mortgages from the banks and “insuring” them with credit default swaps. But when the mortgages got too exotic and the value of the houses couldn’t be sustained , the credit default swaps(CDS) were not able to cover the massive bets that all went in one direction.
Fannie and Freddie got in on this too but that was only a small part of their portfolio - they still got taken over by the government and still needed to be bailed out.
Everyone who invested in MBS was hurt - pension funds, investment banks, countries like Iceland.
A very few people collecting on the other side of the bet won big - one goldman sachs employee reportedly made $3 billion.
Read the The Big Short or essays by William Black. Gretchen Morgenstern is also an excellent source. Any number of economists have written about it.
Qualify that to say the Big Short is by Michael Lewis that wrote Liar’s Poker. I wasn’t clear in my last sentence. William Black wrote a lot of good essays and his last book was called The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One - that was written before this bubble but he writes about a lot of the stuff that added up to our current mess.
Thank you, Dani!
I haven’t really gotten to reading the books, but I guess it’s enough to know that there just isn’t any profit in MBS anymore? My whole point was: no securitization, no housing bubble. There just aren’t enough creditworthy people (there weren’t last time).
Hoarders:Buried Alive had an interesting variation last night. This family wanted to buy a larger house - the husband was… wait for it… real estate agent. They bought this house without looking at the inside! (I thought it was only the overseas investors that bought houses without looking at them).Then they found out the seller was a hoarder and it took 6 months to get her and her junk out. They ended up basically tearing the house down…
That’s some serious stupid.
There’s a house up the street that was foreclosed. But the people are still living there, even though the house has changed hands.
The ever-efficient neighborhood grapevine reports that the residents of this house are serious hoarders. I guess the new owner figured that clearing the place out would be such a PITA that he/she decided to let the foreclosed family stay.
As families go, they’re not bad. The place doesn’t look so great from the outside, but that’s not atypical of that part of the nabe.
I have been following the recent ramblings of the hobbyist geneticists on here. My brother while working for Amnesty International married a woman from the Congo (IQ-68) and produced an offspring, the offspring will graduate with honors this spring from Amherst College. How does one account for the lack of Zairian taint? he sure looks dark to me.
racism is dumb.
after all, you can be born in kenya and grow up to be president of usa.
My great grandmother would have scored very badly on an IQ test administered to adults in the US too - because the most English she ever learned to read or write was her name. But she ran a small store during the day and memorized all the transactions that happened from the time my grandfather left for school until he came home in the afternoon so he could write them down for her. Not sure why she felt it was necessary to keep the books in English. Also not sure why she didn’t just write down the transactions in Yiddish and let grandpa translate when he got home - maybe the extra paper was too expensive and she found memorizing the transactions easy enough that writing them down was unnecessasry. Anyway, IQ tests are culturally biased and always have been.
Also, anyone who thinks intelligence of any kind is purely inherited is already dealing with limited powers of observation and thought themselves. My brother’s best friend when he was a kid was a genius. Sort of a wreck when it came to behavior and he ended up doing a lot of drugs in high school, but you could tell the brain power was there when he was 8 and 9. Parents were dumb as posts. Nice enough people who had no idea how to deal with their kid, but no extra brain power to spare. The sister took after them. I tutored a few kids who parents were very, very bright and the kids just didn’t have it. I remember one little girl in particular. Brother took after the parents. She didn’t. And it wasn’t just laziness. She could manipulate her parents but it didn’t work with me since I only dealt with her one hour a week. She just didn’t understand stuff.
I studied biology (thought I wanted to go into genetics), so I’m a bit more than a hobbyist, but not much more, since my real studies on the matter are ~20 years old. My only comment on the matter:
Genetic variety is a GOOD thing.
All one really need answer to such paranoid mumblings is “West Virginia”.
Charles Murray has been discredited by so many meta-analyses that it’s almost mandatory he be a patron saint of the greenhouse effect- deniers klub.
Conflating circumstantial influences (bad nutrition, cultural norms, selection bias) for intrinsic propensity is the classic propagandists’ tool.
In fairness, I find Murray’s latest hypothesis intriguing, as it deals more with influencing social policy to address a very real regression in social (not necessarily genetic) fitness.
Charles Murray has been discredited by so many meta-analyses
Thank you ahanson. I just didn’t have the bandwidth to even begin to respond to the racism expressed here yesterday.
John Ogbu’s studies re voluntary vs. forced migration and education/success are a good place to start if you want to educate yourself further.
I wonder where this is going?
Updated: Register this: Highway patrol gave feds Missouri weapon permits data on two occasions
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 19:16
The Missouri State Highway Patrol has twice turned over the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders to federal authorities, most recently in January, Sen. Kurt Schaefer said Wednesday.
Questioning in the Senate Appropriations Committee revealed that on two occasions, in November 2011 and again in January, the patrol asked for and received the full list from the state Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Schaefer later met in his office with Col. Ron Replogle, superintendent of the patrol.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/04/updated-register-this-highway-patrol-gave-feds-missouri-weapon-permits-data-on-two-occasions-2617302.html - -
Not unusual.
where this is going?
registration, confiscation, extermination
is it “go time yet” ? - pray tell who’s gonna come confiscate - guys in black choppers, have you talked to these guys lately - the enforcement types… they are your garden variety “keep your hands off my gun” types - i doubt they are gonna enforce a federal directive to take away any ones guns, now if they get the model T101, that would be a different story.
“You’d have to have rocks in your head to buy a house at these prices.”
And rocks in your pipe, because today’s used house buyers are smoking crack.
ALOT of rocks…
From a discussion from a few days ago.
The insanity of buying property in Baltimore.
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Toxic Government by Democrats: Baltimore
FrontPage Magazine | April 8, 2013 | John Perazzo
The city of Baltimore, Maryland, which in the 1950s was an employment mecca for a number of thriving industries, has been governed exclusively by Democratic mayors and city councils since 1967. William Donald Schaefer, who served as Baltimore’s mayor from 1971-87, helped set the stage for economic decline in his city by championing an ever-expanding public sector coupled with extensive government regulation of private business enterprises. Moreover, he relied heavily on federal grants and city bonds to finance a host of development projects throughout Baltimore. As the City Journal reports: “[W]hen those monies proved insufficient, [Schaefer] … created his own city bank to seed development: the Loan and Guarantee Fund. The fund financed itself by selling city property and then leasing it back to itself, and by selling bonds that would stick future taxpayers with much of the bill.”
In 1986 the Brookings Institution reported that “only projects that had been endorsed by [Schaefer] were funded, and only the neighborhoods that were most loyal to City Hall got community grants.” In dozens of cases, Schaefer’s administration took federal funds that had been earmarked for poor people and diverted them to other, more politically expedient, uses. As the Baltimore City Paper reveals: “Fifteen million dollars from a program to provide rent subsidies to low-income families was used to build housing for the elderly (a reliable voting bloc). Another $15 million earmarked for disadvantaged schoolchildren was spent on other items, including the salaries of [politically influential] school bureaucrats.”
In the 1970s, Schaefer’s deputy public works director was incarcerated for rigging bids on city contracts. And in the ’80s, the federal government shut down the city’s Urban Development Action Grants program due to its many abuses.
In 1987 Schaefer was succeeded as mayor by Kurt Schmoke, who continued his predecessor’s policy of extracting as much taxpayer money as possible from Annapolis and Washington, respectively. By 2001, such state and federal subsidies accounted for an incredible 40% of Baltimore’s operating budget.
Even as the nation flourished economically in the 1990s, Baltimore’s economy lost at least 58,000 jobs. The city’s unemployment rate was twice that of the rest of Maryland. Part of the problem was the fact that Baltimore’s property taxes were the highest in the state, causing many of the city’s leading private-sector firms to relocate in the more business-friendly suburbs.
While Baltimore’s industry and finance were in steep decline, crime was on the rise—thanks, in large measure, to Schmoke’s ineffective, soft-on-drugs policing strategy. By the end of the 1990s, the murder rate in Baltimore was six times higher than in New York (where a variety of proactive policing practices had reduced violent crime dramatically). Three-fourths of Baltimore’s homicides were drug-related—symptoms of an ongoing, brutal drug-turf war that was engulfing many nonwhite neighborhoods. Police, meanwhile, were frustrated by the fact that the drug dealers whom they arrested were routinely released a short time later, free to resume their criminal activities on the streets.
Baltimore’s economy also lagged under O’Malley. Between 2001 and 2004, the city lost nearly 5% of all its jobs, including a quarter of its manufacturing jobs, 15% of its banking and finance jobs, and 5% of its retail jobs.
In 2007 O’Malley was succeeded as mayor by Sheila Dixon, who resigned three years later when convicted of embezzlement and perjury charges. Replacing Dixon was city council president Stephanie Rawlings-Blake. By the start of 2013, Baltimore’s population stood at 619,000—a 35% dropoff from its peak of 950,000 six decades earlier, when it had been an economically and socially healthy city.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoiJRKwiC1Y
Soft on drugs? High crime rate?
LOL!
I guess crime in Colorado should be rampant by now.
There is an epidemic of hit-and-runs involving pedestrians in metro Denver.
A consequence of illegal aliens driving while drunk. It’s the macho thing to do.
Have you noted an uptick in “child molestation” (- a charge frequently - and, it is argued, unjustly - brought against thirty year old men who provide food for twelve and thirteen year olds in exchange for sex)? Or an uptick in rapes that are actually reported? (this generally happens when it hasn’t sunk in yet that Denver isn’t Guatemala City, and the locals here are not resigned to being used as inanimate objects).
(It’s not racis when it’s true. )
There is a clear pattern.
Long term democrat rule + public union goons + higher and higher taxes + bigger and bigger government = a bankrupt city in which people FLEE
But somehow the 47% think if we just did this on a nation scale - things would turn out fine.
Lord help you if you own a house or business in Chicago.
and PS - Chicago has a near complete gun ban.
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Toxic Government by Democrats: Chicago
FrontPage Magazine ^ | April 10, 2013 | John Perazzo
The city of Chicago, Illinois has been led exclusively by Democratic mayors since 1931. Under the “progressive” policies of such notables as Richard J. Daley, Michael Bilandic, Jane Byrne, and Harold Washington, the city’s economic and social fabric decayed markedly during the 1960s, ’70s, and ’80s. These trends were accompanied by a steep decline in Chicago’s population, which fell from 3.62 million in 1950 to 2.78 million by 1990.
Fiscal mismanagement by the Daley administration began to manifest itself in Chicago’s economy, causing 7.1% of the city’s jobs to dry up and disappear—more than any other large metropolitan area.
Meanwhile, the city government was running an annual budget deficit of approximately $650 million. Contributing heavily to these shortfalls were ever-escalating expenditures on the lavish benefits of Chicago’s many public-sector union employees, whose pensions were, by mandate of the Illinois state constitution, permanently immune to cutbacks. By early 2012, each household in the city owed, on average, more than $63,000 in local government liabilities.
Chicago’s Democratic leaders sought to address the budget deficit by raising local property and sales taxes. This, coupled with Illinois’ already-high state-tax rates, became a recipe for severe financial hardship in the Windy City. According to a March 2013 Wall Street Journal report, the state and local taxes currently paid by Chicagoans are higher than those paid by their counterparts in all but four other American cities. This oppressive tax climate has dealt a painful blow to Chicago’s small businesses.
Another factor harming small businesses in Chicago is the system of “aldermanic privilege” that dominates the city’s politics and serves as a fertile breeding ground for corruption. As urban-affairs analyst Aaron Renn explains, Chicago’s aldermen—i.e., city council members—have “nearly dictatorial control over what happens in their wards, from zoning changes to sidewalk café permits.” “This,” says Renn, “dumps political risk onto the shoulders of every would-be entrepreneur, who knows that he must stay on the alderman’s good side to be in business. It’s also a recipe for sleaze: 31 aldermen have been convicted of corruption since 1970.” According to a University of Illinois report issued in 2012, Chicago is the most politically corrupt city in the United States, having averaged 51 public corruption convictions annually since 1976. In such a political climate, failure to adhere dutifully to the demands of the mayor and his power structure typically spells doom for any business enterprise.
Chicago’s fiscal woes are compounded by the poor economic conditions in Illinois generally, where egregious financial mismanagement have plunged a once-thriving state economy into virtual ruin. The state’s job-creation rate ranks a lowly 48th in the U.S., and its $9,624 public debt per capita is second only to New York’s. Largely as a consequence of this runaway debt, two of the nation’s major credit-rating corporations, Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s, currently give Illinois the lowest credit rating of any state in the Union.
Yet another reality that has had a major impact on life in Chicago is crime. Since the mid-1970s, the annual homicide tally within the city has ranged between 435 and 970, with the trends and fluctuations more-or-less mirroring those observable nationwide. Today Chicago ranks among the most dangerous cities in the U.S. Blacks, who constitute roughly 35% of Chicago’s population, commit 76% of all homicides in the city. By contrast, whites, who are 28% of the population, commit 4% of the homicides. Driving the trend of high crime rates in Chicago’s black community is a high incidence of single motherhood; between 75% and 80% of the city’s black children are born out-of-wedlock. Sociological research has demonstrated conclusively that growing up without a father is a far better forecaster of a boy’s future criminality than either race or poverty. As Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector notes, “Illegitimacy is a major factor in America’s crime problem. Lack of married parents, rather than race or poverty, is the principal factor in the crime rate.”
Let us know when that equals the $1 TRILLION spent on Iraq and Afghanistan..
Also, let us know when they find those WMDs.
Psst. Latest numbers on Iraq/Afghanistan put the cost between 4-5 Trillion. Over half of the veterans of these two wars are claiming disabilities so the future costs are only going to rise. How many of these vets will be living off the disability gravy train for the rest of their lives?
Gulf War syndrome is real.
No it isn’t. It’s a side effect of being a mercenary tool of a militaristic society. Reinstate the draft, spread the pain around.
I agree Bluestar keep women on the front lines….i’m thinking looking back if women were drafted in Vietnam do you think that war would have lasted so long.. a draft would be good for America,
Now what do we do with the 8th grade dropout would be gansta rappah. hmmm military or jail they would be too dumb to go awol and run to canada
Let us know when that equals the $1 TRILLION spent on Iraq and Afghanistan ??
Yeah…Its conveniently lost in the discussion isn’t it….And what about the human cost ?? The gift (Bush/Cheney) that keeps on giving…
After Saddam Hussein flew those planes into World Trade Center did you expect us to just sit on our hands like a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys?
Gotta get dem weppinzh of mash dishtruckshin wayfrim dozh terriss.
Not quite following your logic…
You are comparing a 50 years of corrupt TOTAL democrat controlled and bankrupt cities to national wars that:
The MAJORITY of democrats voted in favor to include:
Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry
obama was not in the senate but my guess is that he would have voted “present”
So true. It’s in our blood stream. In fact I think the Senate would green light another war in a heart beat right now. The house might be a problem because of the extreme left & right are in isolation mode for now. Do you think the FED worries about another multibillion dollar war?
I suspect the FED would be happy with a war. The gov rolling back spending with sequester and local gov cuts goes against their attempt to create inflation. But a war now that’s spending our gov can get behind. Deficits be damned.
Senate would green light another war in a heart beat right now
As long as they have McCain, Lieberman and Graham in the senate, war is the most likely scenario.
Lieberman retired from the Senate in January, my squiggly-eye doodlebug.
Let us know when that equals the $1 TRILLION spent on Iraq and Afghanistan..
Also, let us know when they find those WMDs.
Basically your argument is, “Bush f’ed up, now it’s out turn to f’up.”
That sounds exactly like Obama presidency and democrats in general.
Basically your argument is, “Bush f’ed up, now it’s out turn to f’up.”
Or possibly, “Bush (and especially Greenspan) f’ed up so amazingly, astoundingly badly, that’s it’s hard to fix it quickly and easily”.
So instead of trying to fix it at all, just expand on what they did and blame it on them for the next 8 years saying the mess they created was too big, while giving more of the same.
If you’ve got an easy fix, we’d love to hear it.
DOW at 14K, UE at 7% and troops withdrawn from both wars is effing up?
Seriously? Can you even hear yourself?
“DOW at 14k”
Ever heard of Bubbles Bernanke and his QE medicine show?
“UE at 7%”
Ever heard of cooked books accounting, and a mysterious decline in labor force participation?
“…troops withdrawn from both wars..”
Ever heard of drone attacks?
What does one thing have to do with the other? You justify bad things by pointing to other bad things?
That’s my point. You can’t see the connection and never will even with a map, a flashlight, a seeing eye dog and a Girlscout with a compass.
Also let us know when somebody proves that the death of cities is caused by the government and NOT by 40 years of outsourcing all the JOBS. CAUSED, not correlated, thank you very much.
In fact, let us know when John Boehner actually creates all the jobs he promised.
The maw must be fed.
“CAUSED, not correlated, thank you very much.”
Political hacks routinely use temporally correlated data to ‘prove’ the rival political party was to blame…
Outsourcing jobs is not more cost effective when equal regulation is applied internally and externally. Can you imagine the cost of chinese goods if their factories were required to meet our health and EPA requirements (and worker conditions/minimum wage) for any good produced coming to America?
If Chinese factories were required to meet health and EPA and minimum wage requirements, maybe those goods wouldn’t be Chinese. As for “cheaper prices,” if the Americans actually had jobs, they could afford the higher prices. Especially if the companies didn’t take so much profit.
“Especially if the companies didn’t take so much profit”
You are a very smart person. Thank you for your brainy posts.
We pay way way way above average and we feel guilty that our workers are not making that much compared to what we take in. But we are not stupid as it is easy to overcome ones guilt.
Capitalism is not Democracy.
and yet, it still ain’t so bad a place to have lived for 40 years
“…Long term democrat rule + public union goons + higher and higher taxes + bigger and bigger government = a bankrupt city in which people FLEE…”
Because San Francisco is very nearly a ghost town.
Zing!
Know what else SF and Chicago have in common? Some a@@ writer from airfarewatchdog.com recently described both as “overrated”. Instead of Chicago, he advised visiting Detroit.
I don’t remember where he advised going instead of SF.
If you think SF is overrated, then don’t move here. I personally wouldn’t mind a little less traffic and more parking.
If you love where you live, then more power to you.
I have a feeling that the folks who are obsessed with dissing places that other people really love are folks who are not happy with their own circumstances and choices.
Or they are writers trying to get attention and provoke a lot of outraged responses. That seemed to be the case with the destination-dissing.
Martinez’s response is from the No sh#t Sherlock column.
By Michael Allen, Wed, April 10, 2013
Pro-gun advocates are furious at Austin City Council member Mike Martinez, who appeared at a gun control rally, ‘Texas Rally for Gun Sense,’ in Austin, Texas on April 7 (video below).
During Martinez’s speech, he spotted a protester who goes by the name of “Texas George” holding up a “Stop the Gun Ban” sign and called him out, reported KHOU-TV.
“First of all, to the gentleman who is dying for attention, someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/pro-gun-advocates-attack-austin-texas-city-council-member-mike-martinez-video - -
Furious? Yeah, that’s a mature response.
What, did they think free speech was a one way street? I’m not surprised. Most people do.
“did they think free speech”
that one will be next.
Yeah, cuz the First Amendment starts out with “A Well-Regulated Press…”
“Stop the Gun Ban”
“First of all, to the gentleman who is dying for attention, someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.
my defintion of “well regulated” and mr. martinez’s (and apparently yours)…is completely different.
“Well regulated” meant “well equipped” and “well working” in the vernacular of the English language in the 1780’s
my defintion of “well regulated” and mr. martinez’s (and apparently yours)…is completely different.
“Well regulated” meant “well equipped” and “well working” in the vernacular of the English language in the 1780’s
And arms meant single-fire pistols and muskets.
This is the first reference I’ve heard that “regulated” meant “equipped.” A few websites compile quotes of the time period, and surmise that the meaning of “regulated” is closer to “trained and disciplined.”
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndmea.html
And arms meant single-fire pistols and muskets
The funny thing - the same exact arms that the standing army had.
If you hate the 2nd Amendment as it is written - then CHANGE it.
But your liberal double speak on taking slices of it away over time does not change the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
All it does is show the path to taking away all amendments (hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
(hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
Oh, so the Constitution is a ‘living document’, that must keep up with the times?
Well, the times show we need a little more control over who is buying and selling these weapons, since they clearly aren’t members of a well-regulated militia.
this entire thread was in response to some DB libtard politician that openly stated an outright ban was the ultimate goal…not “a little more control “.
Maybe that control/ban IS the “well-regulated” in “well-regulated militia”…
“a little more control “?
DHS Contractor Apologizes For Selling Shooting Targets of Children
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 22, 2013
A company which received $2 million dollars from the DHS has apologized and taken offline “no more hesitation” shooting targets which depicted pregnant women, children, and elderly gun owners in residential settings as “non-traditional threats,” following an online uproar.
As we first reported on Tuesday, Law Enforcement Targets Inc. (LET), a Minneapolis based company that has received almost $2 million dollars in contracts from the Department of Homeland Security over the last three years, recently began selling cardboard cut-out targets designed to desensitize police to “non-traditional threats,”
The company’s relationship with the DHS, along with thousands of law enforcement agencies, led to fears that the targets could be connected with Homeland Security’s purchase of roughly 2 billion rounds of ammunition over the last year, which many fear is linked to preparations for mass social unrest. As we documented, the LET’s contracts with the DHS were for “training aids” and “paperboard”.
In its apology, posted on the company’s website as well as Facebook, LET acknowledged that the targets were requested by law enforcement agencies.
We apologize for the offensive nature of our “No More Hesitation” products. These products have been taken offline due to the opinions expressed by so many, including members of the law enforcement community.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-contractor-apologizes-for-selling-shooting-targets-of-children/ - 60k -
A company which received $2 million dollars from the DHS has apologized and taken offline “no more hesitation” shooting targets…
So, are we too PC or not PC enough? Too many conflicting memes.
If you hate the 2nd Amendment as it is written - then CHANGE it.
But your liberal double speak on taking slices of it away over time does not change the meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
All it does is show the path to taking away all amendments (hey, you mean the founding fathers didn’t have the internet and iphones?)
The MEANING and intent of the 2nd amendment is obviously still open to interpretation. If it wasn’t, then we wouldn’t still be having so much debate and contention over it.
It is disingenuous that the NRA and its supporters act like the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is a foregone conclusion.
The entire gun debate is “uniquely American”, especially the belief that democracy will inevitable collapse if we lose the right for everyone to own guns - something that the rest of the first world considers odd.
There’s nothing ambiguous about the 2nd Amendment. It says and means you can own guns.
(arms also meant and still means, any weapon you can carry on your person and wield)
It’s funny that people always say the second amendment doesn’t cover multi round magazine weapons. There is clearly nothing in the second amendment restricting owning cannons, bombs, mortars, rockets, fuses, and other incendiary devices which were clearly present during the drafting of the constitution. Nor is there a restriction on owning ships of war. If the second amendment doesn’t restrict owning of cannons, why should a 30 shot assault rifle be restricted? OTOH, “incendiary devices” are also “illegal” at this time. Perhaps those second amendment persons should have fought harder to keep machine guns and bombs legal for the average citizen back in the day.
My point is basically this: if a device is determined to be “too destructive” for use by the public, then no law enforcement or military should have access to or use of these devices either. If it is evil to use poison gas or nuclear weapons and the public therefore has no need, then neither does the government. These rules should be “rules of war”, not rules of law.
“There’s nothing ambiguous about the 2nd Amendment. It says and means you can own guns.
(arms also meant and still means, any weapon you can carry on your person and wield)”
Suitcase nukes? Surface to air shoulder fired missile launchers?
Suitcase nukes? Surface to air shoulder fired missile launchers?
Anthrax sprayer? Nerve gas? Dirty nuclear devise?
“Pro-gun advocates are furious”
Being furious at someone isn’t a violation of their first amendment rights. And, while relatively few people know this, shutting people up isn’t ususally a violation of their first amendment rights. It *is* a violation if it is the government doing the shutting up.
Nice spin but it misses the point.
“holding up a “Stop the Gun Ban” sign”
“someone needs to inform him that there is no gun ban currently, but because of the work we’re doing here today, we will make your sign legitimate shortly, so you hang on to that,” quipped Martinez.”
I personally am not “furious” but laughing about Martinez letting the cat out of the bag. (like it wasn’t already) I am sure he is getting a good talking to today.
Comment by goon squad
2013-04-11 07:06:35
where this is going?
“registration, confiscation, extermination”
By Michael Allen, Wed, April 10, 2013
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Justin Ferguson · Scottsdale, Arizona
We have the full video of exactly what happened and the man was protesting peacefully and didn’t say a word to Martinez. It was actually the Anti-Gun crowd that was “attacking” one person by swearing at him and blocking his sign. Martinez is a scumbag and a pawn of his sugar daddy Michael Bloomberg. The Pro Gun Advocate was doing nothing wrong, just standing there with his sign exercising his first amendment right. It was not DURING the speech, the first thing Martinez said as he came to the microphone was directed at the Pro Gun Advocate. He called the guy out, said somebody should inform him there isn’t a gun ban, but “with the work we’re doing here today, we’re going to make your sign legitimate.” To loud applauses by the ignorant crowd.
“So this is how liberty dies…with thunderous applause.”
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GIno F Gonzalez ·
What ever happened to respecting other peoples opinion. its clear that Mike Martinez is a buffoon and come next election I wil be picketing non stop to vote him out!
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Meanwhile, in overseas news:
Special to WorldTribune.com
ABU DHABI — Kuwait has reported the theft of a massive amount of
U.S. weapons.
A U.S. soldier on the range with an M-16 assault rifle.
The Interior Ministry said thieves broke into a warehouse and stole a
huge amount of firearms and ammunition. The ministry said 20,000 U.S.-origin M-16 assault rifles and 15,000 rounds for 9mm pistols were stolen.
“There were no guards during the break-in,” the ministry said on April
7.
The ministry said the target was a warehouse of the Interior Ministry in
Subiya, Middle East Newsline reported. The statement said thieves broke three doors and removed the entire contents of the warehouse.
Kuwait has been a major defense client of the United States. The U.S.
military has stationed some 13,000 troops, most of them assigned to
logistics, to the Gulf Cooperation Council sheikdom.
“20,000 U.S.-origin M-16 assault rifles and 15,000 rounds for 9mm pistols were stolen.”
Quick, send them some “Gun Free Zone” signs.
“20,000 U.S.-origin M-16 assault rifles and 15,000 rounds for 9mm pistols were stolen.”
Oh dear god, that’s almost as many as Walmart sells every week in the US!
An entire warehouse cleaned out and nobody noticed while the theft was underway.
Kuwait has enough money to buy all those weapons but not enough to guard them. You can’t fix stupid.
URI Police Respond to Report Of Gunman Armed With Pepper Spray
Matt Vespain
Politics,Guns
2 days ago
On April 4, a lone gunman was reportedly wandering around the University of Rhode Island in Kingston. Of course, campus police responded, but there was a problem. They weren’t carrying firearms. No gunman was found, but if this had turned into a violent incident, URI campus police would’ve been helpless to stop the perpetrator. They were able to secure Chaffee Hall, where the alleged gunman was, from the outside with their arsenal of batons and pepper spray, but had to wait until the arrival of armed state police to conduct a room-by-room search.
This incident shouldn’t give any student at the university, or residents in the surrounding community, peace of mind. These are the consequences of Rhode Island trying to “exemplify non-violence.” But unfortunately, violent criminals aren’t stopped by disarming law-abiding citizens.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/33801/uri-police-respond-to-report-of-gunman-armed-with-pepper-spray - 54k -
On last night’s local Chicago news they showed surveillance video of a shop owner armed with a baseball bat taking out a gunman. Shop owner took a bullet and kept on swinging. He’s going to be fine. The robber and his accomplice got away– but not before accomplice was shot by his own comrade in crime. I doubt they’ll be at large for long. The gunman took quite a beating from the looks of it.
They were probably paid NOT to notice.
Where they ever in the warehouse to begin with?
Can stocks ever go down again? Can the printing press prevent a crash?
this market makes me want to puke…
joe kernan over at cnbc says he is getting excited about these markets and wonders why other people arent.
What a surprise.
And Kernan is a high IQ MIT grad if I recall.
Smart enough to know which side of his bread is buttered.
a mania is definatley building.
The more cock-sure the bulls get that the Bernanke put will always save their bacon, the more reckless their investing gambles become. Eventually their positions will be too foolish to rescue, at which point it will all come crashing down, no matter what amount of liquidity the Fed supplies to try to save Wall Street.
thats so true. I’m looking for the crazy nutty moves before I even think about shorting.
Right now they are just trying to make the party look better to retail investors. Get them into the punchbowl.
“Insider selling at the biggest technology companies hit a record pace over the last six months even as investors snatched up shares, pushing the Nasdaq Composite Index to a 12-year high. ”
OK we just got our raises taken away for the year kinda sucks
Sorry to hear that, cactus. My hubby works for Big Pharma (I know, gag) and even though the company stock has soared, all raises and promotions for this year have been cancelled because somebody or other didn’t meet the pie-in-the-sky goals of upper management. Corporate Amurka sucks big time.
Remember when personal performance guaranteed a raise? Now the company has to exceed unrealistic goals, which used to be a trigger for bonuses.
You should rely more on stock market returns for your income and less on labor market income.
The stock market is in the midst of a major, and I mean MAJOR, Bernanke bubble.
With a heaping helping of Bernanke bubble denial on top!
Central Bankers’ Giant Gamble
Apr 11 2013, 08:10 | includes: EWJ, UDN, UUP
Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. (More…)
Japan’s recent pledge to double its monetary base in an attempt to extricate itself from a two decade old deflationary cycle earns it a preeminent membership in the growing currency debasement club. The world is experiencing the greatest explosion of new money ever. Ostensibly, the exercise is designed to revive dormant, declining or barely growing economies. Since the 2007-09 financial crisis, the flood of new money has been singularly unsuccessful in promoting strong growth. At least in the United States, however, it has been eminently successful in pushing up stock prices.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has made it clear that higher stock prices are a prime goal of current Fed policy. Observing Bernanke’s success in rallying stocks, other central bankers and government officials have taken their cue from Ben. Mario Draghi’s “whatever it takes” pledge did marvels for stock prices throughout most of Europe until recent weeks. China Securities Regulatory Commission Chairman Guo Shuqing indicated even more specifically that it’s necessary to intervene in China’s stock market at “key moments” to accomplish government goals. The Bank of Japan has attacked the problem most directly by pledging to flood the markets with new money, not just by buying bonds but by purchasing REITs and equity ETFs as well. I, among others, believe that our Fed has had a more direct influence on stock prices than it has acknowledged. In any case, it has so far convinced investors that, like Draghi, it stands ready to do whatever it takes to keep prices rising.
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because ‘it’s different here’
‘manhattan apartment rents jumped in march at the fastest pace in six months, sending rates to within about 2 percent of their peak, as limited inventory in the sales market fueled competition among tenants.
the median monthly rent climbed 6.7 percent from a year earlier to 3,195 … the vacancy rate for manhattan apartments fell to a two-year low of 1.46 percent in march, down from 1.69 percent the previous month and 1.89 percent a year earlier.’
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-11/manhattan-apartment-rents-near-peak-as-gains-accelerate.html
People in NYC get what they deserve. Cry me river.
for the joshua tree extension users:
“Rudeness and throwing insults are cutting online friendships short with a survey on Wednesday showing people are getting ruder on social media and two in five users have ended contact after a virtual altercation.
As social media usage surges, the survey found so has incivility with 78 percent of 2,698 people reporting an increase in rudeness online … One in five people have reduced their face-to-face contact with someone they know in real life after an online run-in.”
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9390TO20130410?irpc=932
It wasn’t rudeness so much that finally got me to install the Joshua Tree extension, it was the broken record nature of the offending posters, who repeatedly post numbers and other “facts” that have been refuted on many occasions. They have nothing interesting or new to say, so why bother with them?
You can ignore the truth but you can’t change it.
Huh? Did somebody say something?
(Jk)
You keep using that word “truth”.
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Ditto “liar”.
Poor underwater debt-junkie…. all the denials in the world won’t change your debt-ridden reality.
For the umpteenth time: Read my lips: NO. DEBT.
Or perhaps all us wimmenfolk on the HBB seem the same to you? If that’s the case-
You really aren’t paying attention.
And your depreciating shanty is worth a small fraction of what you paid.
Sucker.
One in five people have reduced their face-to-face contact with someone they know in real life after an online run-in.”
I know, every time I see Pimp Watch, I cross the street.
“One in five people have reduced their face-to-face contact with someone they know in real life after an online run-in.”
Prior to the advent of social media and internet commentary, I sometimes reduced my face-to-face contacts with people I knew in real life, after “real life” run-ins. Nothing new about that. The internet has made those events much more common.
Our current banner ad on HBB:
http://cougarlife.com/
Is this NSFW?
My ads are for Hilton Honors and new townhome developments.
About a nanosecond after I did a bit of research on buying gold coins, an ad for guess what showed up.
Google must have an interesting profile on you
current banner ad on hbb
http://www.chinesewomendate.com/
LAFFO…what’s the squad been looking at lately? I’m seeing ads for some sort of new electric razor on my end.
We regularly shop for squadettes on Match, Plenty of Fish, Fitness Singles, Christian Mingle. Yesterday’s HBB banner ad was for some “Meet Chinese Women” dating website.
The teevee commercials are hideous.
We don’t watch TeeVee commercials.
Good because these you don’t want to watch.
I thought you had a squadette?
We went skiing at Loveland with M last weekend. And went out for coffee with A on Monday, but decided to break that off. And are skiing Arapahoe Basin with P this weekend. And are going rock climbing in Estes Park with R next week.
Why limit ourselves to just one, when the number of available squadettes is incalculable.
We went skiing at Loveland with M last weekend.
How does middle-class dating go in America these days?
Do girls ask you out too? Do they ask you if you’re dating others? Does the guy pay for everything? The internet works well for dating?
I’ve been off the market for so long I’m just curious what it’s like now.
Oooh, A-Basin.
Always been my fave in CO. Would like to get back there soon.
Thanks goon, I nearly clicked on this at work, and I’m too old for a new job (or wife).
By the way how old are you goon?
Cougar Life is the premier online dating service that pairs women in their prime with younger men and ends the double standard!
Older than joe smith, younger than Northeasterner.
What he said.
huh? Are you on the buy side or on the sell side?
I know Cabana Boy is a retard and never answers anything, but I’d love to see his thoughts on this:
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/04/sen-roy-blunt-monsantos-man-washington
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Which senator pushed the rider into the bill? At the time, no one stepped forward to claim credit. But since then, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) has revealed to Politico’s ace reporter David Rogers that he’s the responsible party. Blunt even told Rogers that he “worked with” GMO seed giant Monsanto to craft the rider.
The admission shines a light on Blunt’s ties to Monsanto, whose office is located in the senator’s home state. According to OpenSecrets, Monsanto first started contributing to Blunt back in 2008, when it handed him $10,000. At that point, Blunt was serving in the House of Representatives. In 2010, when Blunt successfully ran for the Senate, Monsanto upped its contribution to $44,250. And in 2012, the GMO seed/pesticide giant enriched Blunt’s campaign war chest by $64,250.
Blunt is also a magnet for PAC money from the agribusiness industry as a whole, OpenSecrets data shows. In 2012, agribiz PACs gave him $51,000—more than any other industry save for finance, insurance, and real estate (FIRE). In 2010, the year of his Senate run, agribiz PACs handed him over $243,000, more than any other besides the FIRE and energy industries.
The senator’s blunt, so to speak, admission that he stuck a rider into an unrelated bill at the behest of a major campaign donor is consistent with the tenor of his political career. While serving as House whip under the famously lobbyist-friendly former House Majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) during the Bush II administration, Blunt built a formidable political machine by transforming lobbying cash into industry-accomodating legislation. In a blistering 2006 report, Public Citizen declared Blunt “a legislative leader who not only has surrendered his office to the imperative of moneyed interests, but who has also done so with disturbing zeal and efficiency.”
is a retard
see above reuters article about online civility.
Should I say mouthbreather instead?
Sure, you can say mouthbreather. And we can call you an elitist, bed-wetter liberal posting as a supposed moderate.
Here’s the deal: Every time you post something like “2Banana is a mouthbreather” or “2Banana is a retard”, I’m going to post that you’re an effete, ivy-league, ambulance-chasing, progressive socialist. How’s that work for you?
is a retard
(CNN) — Every time Ellen Seidman hears the word “retarded,” she worries for her 9-year-old son, Max, who has cerebral palsy.
She wonders if people will ever respect him, or see him as an equal, if they associate that word with people like him, who have intellectual disabilities.
“I’m not saying that anyone who uses the word flippantly has something against people with special needs,” said Seidman, a magazine editor and mom blogger. “But it is a demeaning word even if it’s meant as a joke, because it spreads the idea that people who are cognitively impaired are either stupid or losers.”
it spreads the idea that people who are cognitively impaired are either stupid or losers.
Rather hard to avoid that ‘idea’ no matter what the actual terminology is. “Cognitive impairment” doesn’t imply much that is good / desirable / admirable / profitable / useful / beneficial / etc.
Even the term “best and brightest” has been impaired since about 1960.
So should Joe refer to 2banana as being intellectually disabled?
The only “tard” here we can think of that warrants that title is Realtor troll Eddietard, who no longer posts here and is drowning in the tears resulting from the collapse of his failed Atlanta real estate empire.
2banana is not retarded, he just has a public union fetish.
I guess part of online civility is to post what this “rider” was actually about, so as to not leave the reader hanging?
a rider, wholly unrelated to the underlying bill, that compels the USDA to ignore federal court decisions that block the agency’s approvals of new GM crops.
Bascially the rider forces the USDA to approve GMO crops which are resistent to multiple pesticides, even if a court says USDA is not allowed to approve. The reason is that the approved GMO crops — the “Roundup ready” seeds — resulted in the evolution of weeds tolerant to Roundup. Monsanto needs to get its new stuff on the market pronto before the superweeds take over.
One claim politicians make is that there is too much workload to handle the individual components of these bills serially (one by one, one after another), so they handle them in parallel (many at once).
However, that just means that the same volume is being voted on, just that they are skipping doing due diligence on them.
If the legislative workload is too great in DC, they need to offload to the states, or to reduce their workload. They are eager to centralize power to themselves but unwilling to deal with the scholarly work that entails. They’re too busy out fundraising and schmoozing.
Politicians are more like party-addicted development officers than leaders.
It always amuses me that supposed independents and former Republicans on this blog state again and again how they’re not biased against any one party because they are both corrupt, yet constantly post items that bash the Republicans, without also posting against Democrats.
What’s your agenda Joe? Between you and Rio, you sound more like Democrat plants trying to relate to moderates on the blog and push them towards the idiocy of socialism, equality of outcomes, and wealth distribution that Democrats support…
As to your post, both party’s politicians put riders into bills for their political and financial supporters. What’s new about that? Nothing except the propaganda you’re spewing for the left.
Our 24/7 anti-Democrat party hacks do such a great job that there is no point in competing.
I don’t have a problem with Eco or Alpha or other declared liberals because you know where they stand when they post. There is no subterfuge there. Same goes for 2Banana, Hazard, and TJ, who consistently support the right.
I also understand moderate viewpoints are fluid and aren’t necessarily consistent, but may change from issue to issue. However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party. That, to me is disingenuous, especially if there is another agenda at play.
former conservatives….
I’m a former Paranoid. Now I know for real that they are out to get me.
However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party.
Golly gee wiz…..I wonder why, The world is such a mysteryious thing.. Why do formerr Republikans on this mean blog dis there former party?? It makes no cents. It’s soshalism.
(Hint: Maybe it’s because the Republican party has turned bat s#!t crazy the past 20 years.)
Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem. Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-04-27/opinions/35453898_1_republican-party-party-moves-democratic-party
….We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.
…….The post-McGovern Democratic Party, by contrast, while losing the bulk of its conservative Dixiecrat contingent in the decades after the civil rights revolution, has retained a more diverse base. Since the Clinton presidency, it has hewed to the center-left on issues from welfare reform to fiscal policy. While the Democrats may have moved from their 40-yard line to their 25, the Republicans have gone from their 40 to somewhere behind their goal post.
Why is this soshalist dissing his former party?????????
Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/3079:goodbye-to-all-that-reflections-of-a-gop-operative-who-left-the-cult
…..But both parties are not rotten in quite the same way. The Democrats have their share of machine politicians, careerists, corporate bagmen, egomaniacs and kooks. Nothing, however, quite matches the modern GOP.
To those millions of Americans who have finally begun paying attention to politics and watched with exasperation the tragicomedy of the debt ceiling extension, it may have come as a shock that the Republican Party is so full of lunatics….
…..It should have been evident to clear-eyed observers that the Republican Party is becoming less and less like a traditional political party in a representative democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties of 20th century Europe. This trend has several implications, none of them pleasant.
……Undermining Americans’ belief in their own institutions of self-government remains a prime GOP electoral strategy.
…..they don’t want those people voting. You can probably guess who those people are. Above all, anyone not likely to vote Republican. As Sarah Palin would imply, the people who are not Real Americans. Racial minorities. Immigrants. Muslims. Gays. Intellectuals. Basically, anyone who doesn’t look, think, or talk like the GOP base.
This must account, at least to some degree, for their extraordinarily vitriolic hatred of President Obama. I have joked in the past that the main administration policy that Republicans object to is Obama’s policy of being black.[2] Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some “other,” who is deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: Subversives. Commies. Socialists. Ragheads. Secular humanists. Blacks. Fa gs. Feminazis. The list may change with the political needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
….the business wing of the Republican Party consists of the most energetic outsourcers, wage cutters and hirers of sub-minimum wage immigrant labor to be found anywhere on the globe.
“However, there is a consistent pattern from many here who state they are former conservatives, now moderates/independents who constantly post against a single party. That, to me is disingenuous, especially if there is another agenda at play.”
For the record, I am against all flavors of thought-free political dogma, including the Republican and Democrat flavors.
In case that makes me seem disingenuous, I frankly don’t give a damn.
I basically agree with this. It is very hard to imagine any political party remaining true to its stated values after it has been around for more than a few Presidential cycles. These two major parties are the basis for the corrupt system we have.
So basically Rio is a reformed former Republican pushing a moderately liberal agenda while Joe is an independent pushing the corruption and incompetence of both parties.
Good to know…
You argue that both parties are the problem?
This is nothing new, the Federalist Papers predicted these problems and warned against them.
“Rio is a reformed….”
That is where you fell off.
former Republicans on this blog state again and again how they’re not biased against any one party because they are both corrupt, yet constantly post items that bash the Republicans, without also posting against Democrats.
They were wrong when they were republicans. They are wrong when they are NOT republicans. That’s why.
Two wrongs apparently do not make a Right.
Between you and Rio, you sound more like Democrat plants
You know you’re good at proving your points when you consistently out think and rile up posters like Northeastener.
(He’s cranky today….he’s posting past his “go-time”.)
It’s not go time yet. You’ll know when it is…
There’s a reason “The shot heard around the world” refers to events in Lexington and Concord 238 years ago.
I’m challenging 2Banana’s constant assertion that the GOP is part of the answer.
Both parties *are* the problem.
Both parties *are* the problem.
The electorate is the basic problem. “Idiocracy” was a documentary.
There is truth in this. I’ve been saying for a long time that we as Americans have the government that we deserve.
From today’s Detroit News (no, I will not post a link)
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130411/POLITICS02/304110362#ixzz2QBfMkF3K
Have no idea how that link got posted, detnews.com must have dunnit.
News sites have gotten wise to people quoting them in blogs. If you select the whole thing to copy, some sites will insert a link automatically. You can see it in the reply box.
YOU are the problem.
I’m merely a cog in the system, filling a need our private contractors need, my friend.
I’m merely a cog in the system, filling a need our private contractors need, my friend.
Just following orders. But voluntarily, since they aren’t really orders. Following them for the money.
But I get a get-out-of-jail-free card, because I say both parties are bad.
I am Independent. I’ve stated many times that I don’t want to join the DEM party even though it makes sense because I live in a very blue area of a very blue state. Previous to moving to MD, I had been registered as a Republican but I always had a problem with the fundy-types, that never changed.
My main point in posting was that anyone who shills for either party is a moron. I don’t agree with people who think the Dems are the answer, either. The only reason I voted for Obama was that Romney is a disgusting human being and I felt inclined to repudiate him. I wasn’t of the opinion that Obama was anywhere near perfect. Other than that, I didn’t vote for any Dems in 2012. Most of my support was for Independents, e.g. Rob Sobhani in the Senate race (running as an Independent, his numbers compared favorably to the GOP’s candidate, LOL).
Blunt knows the real payoff will come when he becomes a 5 hour a week, 7 figure lobbiest, taking all expensed lobbying trips with Senators to the Caymans.
I wonder who his kids work for?
I would LOVE to know just what Monsanto has that let’s them get away with the crap they do.
money?
And lots of it!
Actually, that’s what’s stunning: buying a politician for less than $100k?
Seriously, these guys give it up for a WInnebago, and a few cruises? WTF.
Rental Watch:
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-10 11:17:59
I think it depends on the circumstances.
The theory was that secured debt can be easier to collect if there is a BK filing of the borrower[...]
I think this theory was turned on its head with the BK of General Growth Properties.
BW, can you elaborate on what made the BK of General Growth Properties new/different? I must have missed that. Thanks…
My understanding is that they had a lot of single-asset, bankruptcy remote entities that had secured debt that were wholly owned subsidiaries of GGP. In BK, these lenders tried to grab the assets/keep the entities out of the BK, but GGP was successful keeping those “bankrupty remote” entities as part of the BK.
http://www.bankruptcylawblog.com/other-nationally-significant-cases-bankruptcy-court-allows-general-growths-bankruptcyremote.html
This is the major reason that they were able to emerge from BK without wiping out the common equity holders, and why their stock went from about $0.50 to now about $20.
I had the guts to buy other REITs that were in trouble at the time (which has worked quite well), but didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger on GGP. Ultimately, I think the GGP result helped the other REITs vis-a-vis their creditors (who many not have felt as “secure” after the GGP ruling).
April 11, 2013, 11:00 a.m. EDT
If you’re optimistic about 2013 your brain is numb
Commentary: 4 reasons you will be misled again by earnings
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — Earning season is here. Are you still optimistic about 2013? In the fifth year of an aging bull? With Fed QE stalling? Cheap-money near ending? GDP falling to 2%? Commodities dropping? Political gridlock till 2016? No-new-taxes GOP? Tea Party’s demanding austerity? As unemployment rises? Euro zone near breakup? North Korea, Iran, Syria threatening? Market warnings, crash predicted, recession, cash out? How to factor all into your brain’s calculator?
You’re still an optimist? Knowing Wall Street will manipulate this old bull till it’s too late for you. Till they win, you lose. Again. Meanwhile, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke is blind, thinks he’s saving-the-world. Obama’s on a battlefield of saboteurs. And you’re an optimist?
Can you trust their numbers? Stop. The real question is: Can you trust your own judgment about the numbers? University of Chicago behavioral-finance guru Richard Thaler once said: “Think of the human brain as a personal computer with a very slow processor and a memory system that is small and unreliable.” Thaler went on, “the PC I carry between my ears has more disk failures than I care to think about.”
Yes, your little PC is fighting a high-tech war with Wall Street’s army of supercomputers loaded with trillions in high-frequency algorithms, manned by special-ops traders playing a casino game using high-altitude weapons systems targeting Main Street 24/7.
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There certainly is no risk of bears reaching endangered species status these days.
April 10, 2013, 1:23 p.m. EDT
Stocks at a ‘dangerous point,’ says Leclerc
The stock market is at a potentially “dangerous point,” says Marty Leclerc of Barrack Yard Advisors. Leclerc looks back at previous bear market peaks, and he thinks stocks have reached a similar ceiling that could determine whether stocks rise another 25-30%, or whether the next step is a 25% plunge.
we can paper over any problems that arise.
Rental Watch: thank you for the insurance commissioner’s office information. they seem to take landlord fraud very seriously even though my property manager thinks it’s a trifle. will update soon!
Good luck.
I was trying to explain to my daugther (she’s 5) about lying the other day, and that while you think you can get away with it, it will always catch up with you (the truth is always the best policy)…and that if adults get caught lying, sometimes they can go to jail. That seemed to get her attention.
I’ve noticed bailouts nearly always prove to be larger than initially advertised.
To put this into perspective, the population of Cyprus was 1,116,564 as of 2011 — about 1/3 the population of San Diego County, California. So a 23 billion euro bailout averages out to 20.6 thousand euros per man, woman and child — not hopelessly insurmountable, but plenty big, especially if you more realistically averaged it over working adults.
11 April 2013 Last updated at 10:47 ET
Cost of Cyprus bailout ‘rises to 23bn euros’
Protestors in Nicosia Cyprus must find even more money for its bailout
The cost of the bailout for Cyprus has increased to 23bn euros ($30bn; £19.5bn), according to a draft document prepared by the country’s creditors.
The original cost of the bailout was put at 17.5bn euros.
But the new total, disclosed in a document seen by news agencies, means Cyprus will have to find 13bn euros to secure 10bn euros from the European Union and the IMF.
Previously it was thought that Cyprus would have to raise 7.5bn euros.
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Once again, Russia will be the undoing of Germany’s attempt to subjugate Europe.
Two words: Bitcoin volatility.
Discuss.
It would be interesting to compare this to U.S. money when there was no central bank (e.g. second half of 1800s). I suspect volatility was a similar issue in a Fedless monetary system…
See also William Jennings Bryan’s “Cross of Gold” speech.
Indeed. Here’s the thing about volatility. It’s a trader’s dream. Having had some experience with trading SLV in my personal account in 2011, I can say that it is fairly easy to profit from.
The question is the latest bout of volatility a natural extension of over-exuberance (and dare we say a bubble) or a more sinister symptom. I’ve read that DDoS attacks against bitcoin exchanges are becoming more common and that it is being done to create volatility (by generating lag in trade reporting which opens up bid/ask spreads) which hackers are taking advantage of, in the same way Wall St. takes advantage of Main St. Just another way to shake out the weak hands?
Bitcoins are getting a lot of press and popularity is climbing.
Sorta like Beanie Babies.
Will it maintain its value?
The ability to move Bitcoins accross national borders is an impressive feature.
Bitcoin volatility
Mania is a vapor.
Great new app….. beat a realturd with a stick….. and if the vile creature pops back up, give it your best left hook and call the cops.
http://tinyurl.com/coza6bu
Someone else is reading the Drudge Report.
What Odd Items Did DHS Try To Purchase (And Then Suddenly Cancel)?
Apr. 11, 2013 9:27am
Becket Adams
Well here’s a bit of a mystery.
The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday posted an online combined synopsis/solicitation for the following items:
LI 001: Carbon Bagpipe Drone Reed Set, 5, EA;
LI 002: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Easy, 12, EA;
LI 003: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Medium, 12, EA;
LI 004: Deluxe Bagpipe Bag Covers w/ Non-slip Grap Patch and Zipper, 5, EA;
LI 005: Drone Cords, 5, EA;
LI 006: Highland Bagpipe Tuner and Metronome with cases, 2, EA;
LI 007: Combination Tuner and Metronome, 6, EA;
LI 008: Black Polypenco Bagpipes w/ cases, 10, EA;
etc.
Not long after the Drudge Report linked to the DHS page, the listing was updated Thursday to show that it had been cancelled by the federal agency:
Still, two questions remain: What in the world does the DHS need with bagpipes and miscellaneous band equipment? Was it somehow for one of the military bands? If not, or even if so, how much would it have cost taxpayers?
We may not know for some time. A request for comment was not immediately returned by a DHS spokesperson.
Here’s the full posting:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/dhs-cancels-purchase-request-for-bagpipes-and-drums/ - -
Oh… Drudge.
We appreciate the links there to stories that the bedwetter media refuses to touch, i.e. ammo shortages, infowars articles about the gun grabbers, incidents of “youths” or “students” looting a 7-Eleven or going wilding in Chicago.
Youths robbing a 7-11 isn’t particularly newsworthy. However, this bagpipe story is big news. Have you run down to the bagpipe store to stock up? I imagine that once the news gets out, the price of bagpipes will rise dramatically. With go time coming up, you’ll want to make sure that your properly supplied.
Missing. The. Point.
The coastal elitist bedwetter media were slobbering over themselves in their reporting of the Trayvon Martin shooting last year (Obama: if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon).
But purposefully omitting all of the black-on-white “Justice For Trayvon” incidents of violence that followed.
It would be nice if all those COEXIST stickers actually meant something, but humanoids are a tribal species, and unfortunately they don’t.
I think that you missed the point in the Trayvon story. The newsworthy issue in that case was that it appeared that the killer wasn’t going to be even charged. That’s probably an extremely rare occurrence when a black person is arrested for killing a white.
LI 001: Carbon Bagpipe Drone Reed Set, 5, EA;
LI 002: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Easy, 12, EA;
LI 003: Bagpipe Chanter Reeds-Medium, 12, EA;
LI 004: Deluxe Bagpipe Bag Covers w/ Non-slip Grap Patch and Zipper, 5, EA;
LI 005: Drone Cords, 5, EA;
LI 006: Highland Bagpipe Tuner and Metronome with cases, 2, EA;
LI 007: Combination Tuner and Metronome, 6, EA;
LI 008: Black Polypenco Bagpipes w/ cases, 10, EA;
These are weapons of mass destruction. Let us pray that DHS will limit itself to buying only enough dum-dum bullets to kill the US population thrice over.
So, now that Obama has declared $205k of retirement income as perfectly sufficient for everyone, will he cap state and federal pensions at the same level? Seems only “fair”…
Declared?
Link? Source? Context?
Directly from Obama’s budget:
“Prohibit Individuals from Accumulating Over $3 Million in Tax-Preferred Retirement Accounts. Individual Retirement Accounts and other tax-preferred savings vehicles are intended to help middle class families save for retirement. But under current rules, some wealthy individuals are able to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving. The Budget would limit an individual’s total balance across tax-preferred accounts to an amount sufficient to finance an annuity of not more than $205,000 per year in retirement, or about $3 million for someone retiring in 2013. This proposal would raise $9 billion over 10 years.”
My beef with this is that MANY government pensions, when you look at them on an annuity basis, are worth FAR more than $3MM.
My beef with this is that MANY government pensions, when you look at them on an annuity basis, are worth FAR more than $3MM.”
you bet if they can retire at 55 years old and live past 80 and interest rates rates stay at 0%
Like say a CA firefighter
“Automatic IRAs. The budget would automatically enroll employees without a retirement plan at work in IRAs. The contributions would be withheld from paychecks and directly deposited in a retirement account unless workers opt out. A federal government match would also be provided for low income savers via the saver’s tax credit. Small employers would be eligible for tax credits for the administrative costs of setting up the plans. The budget also doubles the tax credit for small employers that start new retirement plans for workers.”
What kind of IRA’s ?
My question is also what kind of IRAs are limited? All? Or just those funded with pre-tax $? In other words, will Roth IRAs also be limited?
Seems silly to limit the Roth IRAs, since withdrawing $ from them won’t trigger any additional tax revenues…but then again, I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.
This is especially the case since I fully expect SS and Medicare to be means tested in the future…wealthy folks need to have more in savings, because their costs are going to be higher (government subsidies lower).
I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.
Obama isn’t taking away ANY incentives. The incentive is only taken away at the $3 Million mark. After that you pay some tax.
Obama isn’t taking away ANY incentives. Obama’s chosen one, the Bernank, is the one who is taking away as many possible incentives to save. Saving, like hoarding, is an anti-American activity deserving of the strongest dis-incentives possible.
“isn’t taking away ANY incentives. The incentive is only taken away ”
I’m not sure these two sentences go together.
If Obama wants to curtail Romneyish IRAs, there are ways to do that other than a cap on IRA account values (restrict the type of investing that can be done through IRAs would be the simplest way).
Otherwise, capping PRIVATE individual retirement savings, when leaving PUBLIC pensions completely unchecked (who get the same benefit of tax-free investment growth from contribution to receiving the pension payment) is a slap in the face to individuals trying to plan for their own retirement–without the aid of government or large company pension systems.
capping PRIVATE individual retirement savings, when leaving PUBLIC pensions completely unchecked
Public pensions are theoretically ‘checked’ by our elected representatives. Of course that process is completely broken, or has been ‘borked’.
Sorry RW, bad English. I was responding to your sentence: ‘”I think taking away any incentives to save for retirement is silly.”
By “any,” I guess you implied “all.” I meant that Obama isn’t taking “any” or “all” the incentives. You’re free to take all the tax breaks you want up to $3 million. Since there are contribution limits to tax-advantaged accounts, it’s pretty difficult to get to $3 million.
I honestly don’t know how that would affect the Fed pensions.
I can’t stash hundreds of millions in my tax-free retirement account? It’s Go Time! Send in the Scotch-Irish, I’ll be monitoring the situation from my chalet in Switzerland.
@Ox, I don’t think we are thinking about this the same way.
If my 401k/IRA grows past $3MM due to strong investment returns (federal tax deferred), Obama would like to force me to sell any amount over $3MM, and disallow me from contributing more, because $3MM should be enough to give me $205k per year…and that is deemed by him to be enough.
However, if the piece of a state sponsored pension plan grows (ALSO federal tax deferred) to a level that supports a state employee’s retirement of greater than $205k annually, that’s OK, and if that employee’s plan allows them to sell back their vacation in the last year of their career to spike up their pension amount to $300k or even more, well, that’s OK too.
An individual’s federal tax deferral to fund their retirement? Limited “annuity” allowed to the non-government employee.
A state pension’s federal tax deferral to fund their employees’ retirements? Unlimited “annuity” allowed to the government employee.
And that’s bullsh*t.
205K PER YEAR?!
If you can’t live well on that, boo effing hoo.
That’s WELL into the top 10%.
Then let’s cap public pensions to the same level.
Otherwise, you are asking me to pay for public employees’ cushy retirement, while you won’t even let me save for my own cushy retirement. F that.
Come on Rental… it’s all about equality of outcomes. No one needs more than $200k/year in retirement accounts. Obviously, if you’ve successfully accumulated more than that, the government should take it from you and provide more to those less successful.
You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions as well as paying the SAME taxes you and I pay, right?
Right? You do know this?
Your concern should be the waste that goes to the defense sector, like the trillion dollar wars we just fought.
A trillion $ pay a lot of pensions… and medicine and SS, and…
You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions
Last I checked (my March paycheck), my monthly contribution to CALSTRS (Ca State Teachers Retirement System, part of CALPERS) was $750 month.
“You do know that most gov employees make substantial paycheck deductions to their own pensions as well as paying the SAME taxes you and I pay, right?”
And you do realize that despite those deductions, there is not a single state in the union that has funded their retiree healthcare benefits, and the vast majority of states have their pension system significantly UNDERfunded, right?
And that a significant reason for the underfunded portion is because of excessive pensions (pension spiking, early retirement and large pensions for high earners) that the unions refuse to curtail, and that for the shortfall, the pension systems are looking to taxpayers to make them whole, right?
If it’s OK for a public union employee to put aside their own money (combined with some taxpayer $) so that they can have a >$205,000 annual pension, why can’t I do it with my own money (with no taxpayer assistance/backstop)?
http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/State_policy/State_Pensions_Health_Care_Retiree_Benefits.pdf
This is a few years old, but the big picture numbers don’t change much:
As of this report, 78% of public sector pensions were funded…7 states were over 90%, with only 2 being fully funded. CA was at 81%, IL was at about 51% (ouch). Over half of the states were under 80% funded.
As of this report, 5% of healthcare benefits were funded.
That’s right…5%. Over half a Trillion $ in liability that has no source other than taxpayer $.
@sfhomeowner, I have no problem with math that works. The problem is that the math doesn’t work.
Example, pension spiking:
You pay an amount relative to your salary for your entire career–carefully calculated. Let’s say, present salary of $x annually. In the last year of your career, you sell back your vacation/work overtime, etc., and so your salary for your last year is 125% of $x.
for some government employees, your pension is now based on 125% of $x…for others, say 108% of $x (if it’s the average of the last 3 years).
That particular employee didn’t pay into the system based on a pension at that level…and 125% of $x isn’t an extreme case, but over time all of that underfunding catches up with the system.
And I haven’t even touched the fact that the State is guaranteeing a certain return on the pension.
“A trillion $ pay a lot of pensions… and medicine and SS, and…”
Since pensions are paid for only by the government employees, can we cross “pensions” off that list?
At least distinguish between Federal and State employees, okay? Obama has nothing to do with retired firefighter pensions.
Under the current Fed system, you would be hard pressed to get to $3 million in any tax-advantaged account.
@oxide:
That’s fine, but the state pensions get Federal tax breaks too, right? Just like IRAs? In that regard, they are no different.
With respect to the limit being OK because it’s hard to get there anyway…that’s a perfect argument for not complicating things more by instituting a limit (that incidentally only raises $900MM per year of additional revenue).
Have you considered contribution limits of SEP IRAs?
401k with employer match?
If you are a diligent saver/investor, reaching the limit can be done.
My quick back of napkin is if you grow the $3MM cap with inflation, and we continue to max out my wife’s 401k, and it grows (in the stock market) at 7% annually, her retirement accounts will exceed the limit.
If the limit goes down as interest rates rise (the $3MM was based on an annuity–Bloomberg noted that the limit would be more like $2MM if interest rates moved to where they were in 2006), we hit the limit well before retirement.
If we are successful investors, and exceed 7% per year, we hit the limit even sooner.
And this is without playing any Romneyish games.
Oh, and the justification of those government pensions being worth more is that the people made more during their careers, and so they should have higher annuities…
Why are real estate agents such damn liars?
I have been trying to rent a house. 3/2/2 type thing. First one I looked at was trashed on the inside. On the second, the owner was waffling on renting. The third I found that I liked and scheduled a showing, telling the agent I needed a place right away, and he mentioned everyone seems to be saying they are 2-3 months away from move in. This house has been vacant since early Feb. The next day the agent calls and says a family moving from out of state who looked at it a “month ago” called and says they’ll take it, but I can be the backup. I liked the house so I told the agent I’ll take it immediately and screw those other people. He has been waffling all week, and finally called today and said he never got the app back from the first family, he checked my credit, and I’m “golden” just like I told him it would be. So we get to the lease and I requested some standard verbiage be added in event of lease termination, as we had discussed on Monday he said that wouldn’t be a problem. Well today its a big problem and now they have a couple showings this weekend again. ( I have enough liquid funds to buy this house for cash). I told him if I don’t have a signed lease by EOD, I was making alternate arrangements and he can kiss the opportunity to help me buy in the future goodbye.
gosh I’m so darn frustrated with this process, makes me want to go to walmarts, buy a damn Coleman tent, and set up in the state park.
“everyone seems to be saying they are 2-3 months away from move in”
Find out who is saying that, wait the 2-3 months until they are evicted and move in there. I know of a couple that did that in 2009 and they are still there rent free.
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Why are real estate agents such damn liars?
I am finding the concern of many businessmen for good-faith dealing with potential customers is nowhere near what it used to be. This is not limited to the real estate industry. I recently succeeded at locating a source for materials to patch the aluminum siding on my house. On my journey, which took several months, I met quite a few contractors who gave me off-the-cuff estimates for aluminum siding, yet who were totally unaware of the suppliers. I felt they were just making up their ‘facts’ in order to support their basic goal of selling an entire house worth of vinyl siding.
Google searches for ‘aluminum siding’ turned up vast numbers of companies and contractors, none of whom actually provides that. They just use the tag to catch the search engines.
I sent some email queries through links on company websites, places like Alsides (an originator of aluminum siding) asking if they still supplied same - no answers yet received. I don’t expect any.
My niece recently checked out dentists in her area so that she could have a large 20-year-old piece of bridgework replaced. One dental office told her there was a $100 charge for a consultation just to get an estimate of the cost of the work. After she had committed herself to that and showed up at the office, she spent most of her time with a recent dental grad, not the experienced prosthodontist she thought she was to see. She spoke to the ‘main man’ for only a few seconds. Then she was told the charge for an actual estimate was an additional $500 on top of the original charge, which was only the cost of applying for a binding estimate! What a rip-off.
May have to hit the secondary market. Craigslist, Habitat ReStore, or ask metal recyclers to keep an eye out for something if it comes in.
May have to hit the secondary market.
Won’t be necessary. Alsco Metals will provide. Norandex is one of 3 distributors local to me. They even gave me a free 3 foot long sample to match to my existing siding. There were some slight differences which will not matter, since a couple of weeks of exposure to local dust & pollen will mask the differences. Their counterman has a long grey beard & actual experience hanging, maintaining & repairing aluminum siding in my area. He gave me some very good tips on things I needed to know. The warehouseman had a little less grey hair, along with personal and local installation & maintenance experience. Those 2 men alone were worth more than all the others I had previously contacted, put together. After I get my metal roof installed, will fix my siding. Just hope my 2 personal resources stay alive until then!
the Bernake was wrong it’s comming back to bite us
“Then there was earlier news that an investment fund backed by Qatar has bought London’s famed Park Lane Hotel for more than $475 million. The price marked a whopping 62 percent premium to the price asked for the hotel in December. In the first quarter alone, commercial property sales in London were up 71 percent compared to 2012. And two thirds of those sales were by foreign buyers.
Stocks, old letters and London hotels all reaching new highs. What’s the connection?
Global asset reflation. That may sound technical, but economists say that the somewhat baffling rise in U.S. stocks can be best explained by looking at asset values more broadly around the world. The river of money coursing around the globe is now approaching the flood stage, fed by a downpour of cash from the Federal Reserve and now from the Bank of Japan.
All that cash is searching for a home, and unlike water, cash tends to seek higher ground rather than the lowest. So all of the world’s cash is pouring into higher quality assets with little concern for underlying values or economic fundamentals.”
Everyone Must Check In
Check in where? FEMA Camp for thought criminals?
Learn more about camp life by reading Solzhenitsin’s “Gulag Archipelago”
April 10, 2013, 11:37 a.m. EDT
As yen slides, 1998 stands as warning to markets
Commentary: How will China and other export nations respond?
By Michael Casey
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Foreign exchange dealers remember them as two of the craziest trading days in history.
Between the start and close of business on Oct. 7 and Oct. 8 in 1998, the dollar dropped against the yen by almost 15% from peak to trough as banks and hedge funds let loose an avalanche of buy orders for the Japanese currency.
Daily turnover in the dollar versus the highly liquid yen was in those days second only to the greenback versus the Deutschemark, yet bid-ask spreads — the difference between the price at which buyers will pay and that which sellers are offering — gapped out on those two days to an unprecedented one-yen difference. In a sign that dollar buyers were few and far between, some traders barked out orders in “big figure” numerals — “129 bid, 130 offered” — ignoring the suddenly irrelevant decimal points in between.
Japanese 10,000 yen.
The intensity of that market dislocation, and the sweeping global events that led to it, offer a warning about disruptions to the global financial system from the yen’s current downturn. The currency’s violent snapback 15 years ago, occurring at the height of the Asian financial crisis, was preceded by a three-year decline in the yen, not unlike that which yen bears forecast as the outcome from the Bank of Japan’s recent move to ramp up its monetary stimulus.
As with now, Japanese authorities believed strongly in 1995 that the yen was overvalued. With the dollar dropping as low as Y79.92 in April that year, Japan’s powerful export sector was suffocating while the economy strained under the costs of the Kobe earthquake. So the Bank of Japan boosted its routine “Rinban” bond-buying operations while Tokyo sought and received Washington’s blessing for a weaker yen. A massive reversal ensued. By August 1998, the dollar had almost doubled in value to a peak of Y147.62.
The yen-weakening policy kept Japanese exporters happy and pleased the U.S. Federal Reserve because it put a lid on inflation. But it also unraveled the “Asian miracle.” Businesses in Thailand, Korea, Indonesia and other “tiger” economies came under increasing pressure as Japan’s competitiveness improved. And as their external trade balances deteriorated, speculators targeted these countries’ pegged currencies, eventually triggering a domino collapse that would envelope the whole world.
Meanwhile, the short-selling bets that traders had placed against the falling yen were planting the seeds of their own destruction. With Japan’s struggling economy paying the lowest interest rates in the world, global investors had piled into the so-called yen carry trade. They borrowed cheaply in yen and invested the proceeds in higher-yielding currencies such as the Thai baht and Russian ruble. But when the crisis unfolded and investors closed out those positions, they had to buy back the yen to repay their loans. In October 1998, after Wall Street banks bailed out Long-Term Capital Management and unwound its global portfolio of risky bets, these periodic “short-covering” rallies morphed into one all-encompassing stampede.
Is Japan now setting up a similar global disruption? Its central bank is about to unleash an unprecedented wave of money into the global system and traders, anticipating its effect, have driven the yen down 22% since its peak in September.
Much is different this time. There are far fewer pegged currencies for speculators to target, and giant stockpiles of foreign reserves mean emerging market central banks are well-armed to protect themselves. Still, the lessons from the 1990s are compelling and in this case it’s more important that the advanced nations of Europe read them than developing countries.
No one can confuse the euro zone’s zombie-like economies for the booming Southeast Asian tigers of the 1990s. But there’s a risk of overvaluation building up in European bond markets that’s reminiscent of Asia’s artificially propped up currencies in the 1990s.
Despite Cyprus’s banking meltdown and a toxic mix of unemployment and social malaise that threatens to revive the euro zone’s financial crisis, bond yields for core European economies hit record lows this week as funds pivoted out of Japanese government bonds in search of higher yields. Everyone wanted to get ahead of the Bank of Japan’s forthcoming wall of money. Alongside the Federal Reserve’s monthly print run of $85 billion, the BOJ’s plan to purchase Y7 trillion ($70 billion) in bonds per month will have a profound effect on global asset valuations. The risk is that those valuations detach from reality and must eventually correct, as they did 15 years ago.
Then there’s the question of how China and other big exporting nations respond to the competitive threat of a sharply weaker yen. As with the Asian crisis, a potentially vicious cycle of “competitive depreciations” looms.
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April 10, 2013, 10:27 a.m. EDT
David Stockman has blown some bubbles, too
Commentary: Is he a cranky old man or a visionary?
By Al Lewis
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan’s former budget director, is getting plenty of blowback from his new book, “The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America,” and his Easter Sunday piece in the New York Times calling the U.S. “state wrecked.”
“I’m not a real author,” Stockman said last week during a panel discussion at the Society of American Business Editors and Writers Conference at George Washington University. “According to some, I do rants and screeds and gold-buggery.”
Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who is 60 years old himself, called Stockman, who is 66, “a cranky old man.”
Krugman also wrote, “The verdict among everyone who knows anything is that Stockman’s piece, mysteriously given star treatment, was pathetic and embarrassing. It’s full of big numbers that are scary because they’re big numbers.”
To Krugman and others who argue against Stockman, the U.S. economy is plenty big enough to manage its burgeoning debt load. Plus, interest rates are so low that the world is virtually paying the U.S. to take its money. So why not borrow trillions and trillions more until the economy recovers?
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So why not borrow trillions and trillions more until the economy recovers?
Time alone will tell. We real people will have only the rest of our lifetimes to deal with these ‘pathetic and embarrassing’ situations.
The surgeon’s credo is “First do no harm” - “Primum non nocere”
Money printing to increase the wealth of a society is not a new tack. We know where it can lead.
Debt ultimately didn’t matter after World War II because it was reduced as a percentage of GDP. This is what they’re hoping for. But the US was reaching the zenith of empire after WWII. Now the US and Europe are mature economies. Can we expect growth rates which will once again reduce the percentage of debt to GDP to safer levels?
We know what massive debt and money printing has done in other countries. The intelligentsia aren’t sure where this is all leading. They’re counting on a predictable and controlled failure model if this approach does start failing. Is that even true?
I’d prefer economic policies that don’t threaten the currency, the basis of the entire economy. Forcing Congress to focus on leadership instead of fundraising, and creating an economic environment which creates a healthy, long term environment with predictable rules.
The current policy makers always quote Keynes - “In the long run we are all dead.” But I don’t think that meant to utterly ignore the long term.
Primum non nocere.
a predictable and controlled failure model if this approach does start failing. Is that even true?
Only time will tell. Predictions are neither true nor false until the results are known.
Gun control cleared the Senate. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/11/gun-bill-clears-senate-hurdle-as-filibuster-falls-short/
Is it go time yet?
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Is it go time yet?
Take sufficient cathartics, and you will soon have NO DOUBTS.
Is it go time yet?
Where the heck you going to go?
Here, use this map to find a country that has more gun ownership than the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_map_of_civilian_gun_ownership.svg
Not yet.
Personally, Federal legislation doesn’t worry me nearly as much as the BS the states are pulling currently. Let the bill come up for a vote. We’ll get every RINO and Democrat gun-grabber on record regarding their support for 2A. There will be a price to pay come the next election cycle.
Country Guns per 100 residents Rank
United States 88.8 1
Yemen 54.8 2
Switzerland 45.7 3
Finland 45.3 4
Serbia 37.8 5
Cyprus 36.1 6
Saudi Arabia 35 7
Iraq 34.2 8
Uruguay 31.8 9
Sweden 31.6 10
Norway 31.3 11
France 31.2 12
Canada 30.8 13
Austria 30.4 14
Germany 30.3 15
Iceland 30.3 15
Oman 25.5 17
Bahrain 24.8 18
Kuwait 24.8 18
Republic of Macedonia 24.1 20
Montenegro 23.1 21
New Zealand 22.6 22 1993: 26.8.[2]
Greece 22.5 23
United Arab Emirates 22.1 24
Northern Ireland 21.9 25
Croatia 21.7 26
Panama 21.7 26
Lebanon 21 28
Equatorial Guinea 19.9 29
Qatar 19.2 31
Latvia 19 32
Peru 18.8 33
Angola 17.3 34
Bosnia and Herzegovina 17.3 34
Belgium 17.2 36
Paraguay 17 37
Czech Republic 16.3 38
Thailand 15.6 39
Libya 15.5 40
Luxembourg 15.3 41
Australia 15 42
Mexico 15 42
Mauritius 14.7 44
Guyana 14.6 45
Gabon 14 46
Slovenia 13.5 47
Suriname 13.4 48
Guatemala 13.1 49
South Africa 12.7 50
Namibia 12.6 51
Armenia 12.5 52
Turkey 12.5 52
Denmark 12 54
Italy 11.9 55
Malta 11.9 55
Pakistan 11.6 57
Jordan 11.5 58
Chile 10.7 59
Venezuela 10.7 59
Spain 10.4 61
Argentina 10.2 62
Belize 10 63
Costa Rica 9.9 64
Estonia 9.2 65
Somalia 9.1 66
Transnistria 9.1 66
Russia 8.9 68
Zambia 8.9 68
Albania 8.6 70
Ireland 8.6 70
Portugal 8.5 72
Slovakia 8.3 73
Jamaica 8.1 74
Brazil 8 75
Barbados 7.8 76
Nicaragua 7.7 77
Algeria 7.6 78
Belarus 7.3 79
Georgia 7.3 79
Iran 7.3 79
Israel 7.3 79
Moldova 7.1 83
Ukraine 6.6 84
Maldives 6.5 85
Kenya 6.4 86
Swaziland 6.4 86
Bulgaria 6.2 88
England and Wales 6.2 88
Honduras 6.2 88
Colombia 5.9 91
El Salvador 5.8 92
Hungary 5.5 93
Scotland 5.5 93
Sudan 5.5 93 Includes South Sudan
Cape Verde 5.4 96
Seychelles 5.4 96
Bahamas 5.3 98
Dominican Republic 5.1 99
Mozambique 5.1 99
Morocco 5 101
Botswana 4.9 102
China 4.9 102
Cuba 4.8 104
Philippines 4.7 105
Afghanistan 4.6 106
Taiwan 4.6 106
Zimbabwe 4.6 106
Cambodia 4.3 109
India 4.2 110
Burma 4 111
Netherlands 3.9 112
Syria 3.9 112
Turkmenistan 3.8 114
Azerbaijan 3.5 115
Egypt 3.5 115
Bhutan 3.5 115
Palestine 3.4 118
Bolivia 2.8 119
Cameroon 2.8 119
Djibouti 2.8 119
Congo 2.7 122
Lesotho 2.7 122
Ivory Coast 2.4 124
Senegal 2 125
Mongolia 1.9 126
Comoros 1.8 127
Vietnam 1.7 128
Guinea-Bissau 1.6 129
Liberia 1.6 129
Mauritania 1.6 129
Trinidad and Tobago 1.6 129
Malaysia 1.5 133
Nigeria 1.5 133
Sri Lanka 1.5 133
Uzbekistan 1.5 133
Benin 1.4 137
Brunei 1.4 137
Democratic Republic of the Congo 1.4 137
Tanzania 1.4 137
Uganda 1.4 137
Ecuador 1.3 142
Kazakhstan 1.3 142
Poland 1.3 142
Burundi 1.2 145
Laos 1.2 145
Guinea 1.2 145
Papua New Guinea 1.2 145
Burkina Faso 1.1 149
Chad 1.1 149
South Korea 1.1 149
Mali 1.1 149
Central African Republic 1 153
Tajikistan 1 153
Togo 1 153
Kyrgyzstan .9 156
Gambia .8 157
Madagascar .8 157
Nepal .8 157
Lithuania .7 160
Malawi .7 160
Niger .7 160
Romania .7 160
Haiti .6 164
Japan .6 164
North Korea .6 164
Rwanda .6 164
Sierra Leone .6 164
Bangladesh .5 169
Eritrea .5 169
Fiji .5 169
Indonesia .5 169
Singapore .5 169
Ethiopia .4 174
Ghana .4 174
Solomon Islands .4 174
Timor-Leste .3 177
Tunisia .1 178
Thank you for posting that. “Go time” should be very interesting when it happens. We are very much looking forward to personally re-enacting critically acclaimed film “Red Dawn” when it does.
Not for nothin but 2 Black Hawk helicopters flew over Northern Palm Beach County today low and slow. They are the first Black Hawks I have seen down here since Bill Clinton broke his ankle at Greg Normans house in the 90s and they were not low or slow.
April 09, 2013
Biden: ‘The Black Helicopter Crowd is Really Upset’
Vice President Joe Biden blasted the NRA for engaging in a “disinformation” campaign meant to “scare people” from supporting background checks.
“Kinda scary man, the black helicopter crowd is really upset,” Biden said about the NRA’s concern with the possible creation of a federal government gun registry.
Biden was speaking at the White House with Attorney General Eric Holder on reducing gun violence and was joined by law enforcement officials from across the country.
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“Kinda scary man, the black helicopter crowd is really upset,”
What an @ss. Gee Joe you’re right again, I don’t know why the black helicopter crowd is upset.
Machine Gun Fire From Black Hawk Helicopters Flying Over Miami …
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Jan 27, 2013
“We are very much looking forward to personally re-enacting critically acclaimed film “Red Dawn” when it does.”
You want to get shredded by a Mil Mi-24?
wolverines!
Illuminati and the ‘Committee of 300′ - Dr. John Coleman [+Free PDF …
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Uncas!
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Foundry work is one of my hobby interests. Is a small cannon considered a firearm at all? It has a magazine of sorts, not attached at all.
LOL on the list of countries. I didn’t see many there which overthrew a dictator in their past with firearms. Spoons don’t help much against dictators.
Chingachgook lies dead I hear.
The illuminati are flying the gun-snatching, gay-marriage-legalizing, sharia-law-instituting black helicopters! That are practicing over Florida beaches.
Now it all makes sense. Thanks, jethro.
Is a small cannon considered a firearm at all? It has a magazine of sorts, not attached at all.
Anything over .50 cal is considered a destructive device and heavily regulated by the BATFE. So, no, a cannon, nor any artillery, is considered a firearm and doesn’t fall under the auspices of the 2A by current law.
Having said that, if you want a cannon, there are ways of getting one legally. It just costs a bit in time, money and paperwork.
We’re number 1 with a bullet!
Do NOT buy a house in Florida while Rick Scott is Governor.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/banking/property-insurance-rates-could-go-through-roof-under-senate-bill/2114444
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The stock market always goes up. Buy stocks now, or get priced out forever.
P.S. My Vanguard REIT portfolio slice is up 15% in one year. “FOLLOW THE FED” — just like they say!
With people leaving California in droves, and a dismal economy to boot, where it the housing demand coming from these days to prop up prices at bubblelicious levels?
David Davenport, Contributor
Op/Ed
4/11/2013 @ 8:00AM
As Jerry Brown Touts California In China, Its Citizens Pack Their Bags
BEIJING, CHINA - APRIL 10: California Governor…
California Governor Jerry Brown (R) shakes hands with China Minister of Commerce Gao Hucheng before a meeting at the Ministry of Commerce on April 10, 2013 in Beijing, China. Brown is in China in an effort to secure Chinese investment in his state of California. (Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)
While Governor Jerry Brown is in China touting the state’s rebound and recovery, many Californians are busy packing their bags for a move to Texas, Nevada or Arizona. Why? Because it appears that the once-Golden State may finally be overpriced, underperforming and ungovernable.
Is it possible that one state has managed to top every 50-state category on the following shameful list?
* Highest taxes (gasoline, sales and top bracket of income taxes)
* Lowest bond rating
* Highest poverty rate (at 23.5%, the home of 1/3 of those in poverty in U.S.)
* Highest unemployment rate (tied with Mississippi and Nevada at 9.6%)
* Highest energy costs
* Worst state to do business (as judged by Chief Executive magazine 8 years running)
* Most cities going bankrupt
* Prison system so poorly run it has been taken over by a federal judge
And California has managed to do this during its rebound, its good years, according to Jerry Brown who, if not Governor Moonbeam in his second coming as the state’s leader, is clearly not in touch with life on Planet California.
Although there is argument about this, there shouldn’t be: people are leaving the state. The data shows that there has been a net out-migration from California to other states since 1990, balanced for awhile by immigration from other countries. But by 2005 that had eroded, too, with birth rates in the state also dropping at an incredible rate. Over the past two decades, a net 3.4 million people have left the state. And this is before the 2013 increase in income tax rates which prompted even liberal TV talker Bill Maher to complain that “it’s outrageous what we (millionaires) are paying” in taxes, “over 50%,” warning “liberals, you could actually lose me.”
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