As some of you may remember, my company went through some lay offs at the beginning of the year. My group lost about 45% of all engineering resources; the workload for the group stayed the same.
Upper management has realized deadlines will not be met with the current staff, so they have decided to offer last-minute interns to fill gaps! Fired a senior engineer? No problem! You get an intern to so his job! Do y’all wanna know what’s even worse? After interviewing a couple of people, management has come back and said the applicants not experienced enough!
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
You thought you were exempt because your not some rinky-dink liberal arts major.
Guess again.
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Comment by goon squad
2013-04-22 08:56:04
And a very happy Monday to you too, MacBeth.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-22 09:16:31
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
There does seem to be a separation in the engineer world between the big company “Dilbert” world of engineers as a commodity and the small company world of “we need somebody who can solve all these problems and meet with the customer TODAY”. You are quite correct regarding the first category, but the second seems highly resistant to outsourcing.
Comment by zee_in_phx
2013-04-22 09:27:01
Let me tell you something ’bout engineering, McBeth, do you think those laid off engineers are twiddling their thumbs somewhere waiting for the phone to ring with a job offer, i don’t think so. They are probably hacking out code or building the next google glass down in their basement and having a bla st. Getting relieved of a mindless dead end assignment was probably the best thing that happened to them. For most engineers its not a 8-5 job, but a lifestyle, if they wanted to make money they would have had better luck doing analytics and going to wall street, but they choose to build stuff that makes life a little easier and enjoyable for the rest of us. know where the next google, apple etc is coming from.. its an ex-googler or an ex-appler who decided to leave the mothership and start his own.
As far as comparing salaries to those in chindia, well they are pretty nice if you are living in chindia, and i know a few who wouldn’t think twice about taking a 1 way ticket overseas for a juicy assignment. Keep up the divisive attitude and erode the civil society that took 200+ years to build here and i’m sure another location on God’s green earth will gladly except the talent from here. And don’t cry me a river when we have to get H-1Bs to work over there
I believe it was someone on this board who said “never confuse tactics (BS) with strategy (BA).”
Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-22 09:44:10
For every entrepreneurial engineer there are 100 who aren’t. Plus you need some scratch to start a business in the basement, which isn’t that easy. There’s a reason Google Glass, the Google self driving car, etc., are being developed by big companies like Google: it takes a lot of resources. Most of the start ups I’ve worked at weren’t all that innovative. The typical story for most was that the founder had some domain knowledge for an industry and was focusing on a niche within it.
Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-22 09:46:08
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
You thought you were exempt because your not some rinky-dink liberal arts major.
Guess again.
MacBeth is quite right. STEMs will still be better off than lib arts majors, but the handwriting is on the wall.
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 09:59:56
It’s interesting how things here are getting “divisive” now that they affect your livelihood, in addition to tens of millions of others.
Discovering that they are not “above it all” is both dismaying and disturbing.
Do the math. The disintegration of the esteemed and well-paid engineering/IT world is predictable. As both industries’ contribution to the economy ebbs, so will the pay.
The ROI of both industries is in decline, apparently rather rapidly. The biggest gain both offered was in productivity and cost. Now that productivity is high - and low cost in both investment and salaries - your value is less.
You aren’t worth what you used to be. Get it? Welcome to Lucky Ducky world - now it’s you that will have fewer opportunities and less real income.
(Goon, when you type in your common “Lucky Ducky” phraseology, remember to include engineers and IT people in your thought process. Feels different when it hits YOUR home, doesn’t it?)
Math doesn’t prefer a mathematician over anyone else.
Bill in LA realized this a long time ago, and acted in ways that benefit him. He’s smart.
Comment by Ethan in Norfolk
2013-04-22 10:01:17
There aren’t that many engineers building things on their own. Only some are motivated enough to do that. Some of them can talk to people and are outgoing, others have rough personalities.
STEM is huge in the lower schools though — not sure what industries they’re trying to feed with that.
Comment by polly
2013-04-22 10:36:34
Bill stumbled into a niche (work that requires a security clearance) when nobody with a couple of extra brain cells wanted to do it. He can pretend to all the rest of you that his employment is secure because he is willing to move at the drop of a hat. He is wrong. It was getting the security clearance when everyone wanted to go work for Apple and Microsoft and learn about the guts of the machine, not do boring applications work that killed people and required you to report to a government keeper when you started dating someone.
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 10:50:10
Bill knows his job is not secure and has stated so several times, Polly. Don’t put words in his mouth.
Now, let’s talk about your job. It is secure? Why? What ROI do you yourself bring into the economy?
I do want to know. Your worth to the overall economy probably isn’t tracked. It should be.
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-04-22 11:26:58
Uncle Fed, WWYLM, chiming in here.
MacBeth: Polly is a tax lawyer for the IRS. She has already made it into management. Yes, her job is secure. Yes, her ROI on the economy is being tracked. Polly is a tracked person.
Bill in LA definitely makes extra money in exchange for being a gubbmint contractor. Once you’re in, you’re in. The gubbmint has a love affair with people who have been working in gubbmint their whole lives. It’s hard to get into the gubbmint if you already have corporate experience. Old gubbmint workers have a sweet deal, but Polly has inside information about gubbmint finances. That’s probably why she said something about Bill’s career being less stable than he thinks.
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-22 11:43:51
Working for the war machine is as stable as it gets.
Each “terror” attack is an excuse for more funding.
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 11:51:40
I know what Polly does for a living. I’d like to know what value (i.e., profit) she represents to the economy. My guess is that she’s a net loss.
Bill also works for the government. He is not private sector, either. That we know. I’d also like to know what value (i.e., profit) he represents to the economy. My guess is that he, too, is a net loss.
Comment by joe the S Corp IRA-stuffing private contractor representing goon
2013-04-22 07:05:25
Sure, it helps meet the numbers for 1 or 2 quarters, but it does signal long term problems for the company. If you have a vision, you don’t dump employees on a seemingly random basis, you refocus them.
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Comment by Brett
2013-04-22 07:24:15
That is very true… And it’s now just my company; I think it’s a pattern across the board.
Meeting expectations is the #1 priority
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 10:16:37
“If you have a vision, you don’t dump employees on a seemingly random basis, you refocus them…”
I love this. What if government makes your vision pointless to execute? What if you’ve already invested years of time and money into something that now is pointless due to government interference?
What then? Refocus?
Has it occurred to you that “sequester” may be the result of an inept government?
It’s occurred to me. If Washington was as smart as it thinks it is, “sequester” wouldn’t be necessary.
Not that “sequester” really amounts to much.
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 10:32:19
“Meeting expectations” is the result of a world awash in data.
The trick of course is to determine what 10% of data has any value…and then know what to do with it.
Our over-reliance on data is an albatross. Data is becoming as counter to productivity and salary as government interference already is.
Stuff that one in your pipe for a while and think about it.
“…The trick of course is to determine what 10% of data has any value…and then know what to do with it….”
Bravo, Mac. Spoken like a true dictator. (And I mean that in the very best sense of the word, honestly.)
I’d add, “and how an infinite number of random variables have skewed them before you even put them into action.”
Maybe the real trick is simply to implement a (considered) course and deal with the outliers as they come along. The data are merely our excuse to take the leap (and cover our six).
Everything is data and everything is number-crunched.
For decades now, engineers and IT folks have been busy designing and building things that toss others out of their jobs wholesale. Destroyed all sorts of professions.
All of which was just dandy…until now, when your own livelihood and future are on the line.
You should’ve thought about that. You didn’t. Now it’s biting you in the hindquarters. Too bad for you.
Engineers here are worth what engineers are worth there.
Get used to it.
Never fear…it’ll happen to lawyers, too. Well, at least to private-sector lawyers.
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Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-22 09:11:04
Lawyers, doctors, and accountants are next up after the engineering/programmer types get done gutting themselves.
There will always be a need for knowlegable MD, LLD, CPA, MBA overlords to operate the robots. Preferably one with all four degrees.
Better get crackin’ joe.
Comment by Ethan in Norfolk
2013-04-22 10:03:55
Kudos on the reddit AMA the other day
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-22 10:24:44
All correct, Joe. Those professions are next.
Morfe in line with Ben’s intent of this board is a housing question that’s been on my mind frequently as of late.
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses? I realize they’ve been essentially outlawed in our over-zoned world. It doesn’t mean the need doesn’t exist. (Three of my eight great-grandparents owned and operated them).
That need is here…and growing rapidly.
Comment by aNYCdj
2013-04-22 10:52:19
Macbeth…..Enter the McMansions….5 bedrooms cake decorating room, gift room 4 car garage….
All made for such a situation now to get the government and the HOA’s out of the way
Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 11:20:14
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses?
They still exist, MacBeth.
Some of those renters get a Section 8.
Some of them live in rooms in Extended Stay America hotels.
The low-end of poor lives in dilapidated old 50’s-60’s-70’s style motels which line the older highways.
Comment by Neuromance
2013-04-22 11:31:15
Lawyers, doctors, and accountants are next up after the engineering/programmer types get done gutting themselves.
Section 8 has nothing to do with the old-fashioned boardinghouses of 1900.
What I am referring to are boardinghouses run by the private sector and lived in by those earning a paycheck.
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-22 11:46:00
New grads with legal degrees can’t fund jobs, temp legal workers is the new growth industry.
Comment by sfhomowner
2013-04-22 11:56:51
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses?
We call them SROs here. Single room occupancy. Bedbug central.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 11:58:19
Evidently you missed the rest of the post.
..Section 8 housing is run by private sector.
..Old motels are run by small-time private sector.
..Larger extended stay places are run by medium-sized private sector.
And I don’t know if you know this, but Section 8 still makes a paycheck, as do those who live in the motels. They just don’t make enough to afford rent.
[I once saw a snippet on PBS about a single middle-aged man who worked as a security guard in San Francisco. All he could afford was a ~$500/month room in a run-down hotel.]
Thanks, ethan. It’s currently #9 all-time top AMA on Reddit, nestled cozily (and perhaps appropriately) between Arnold and Jeopardy whiz, Ken Jennings.
Amazing thing, this interweb. (Got several HBB shout-outs during the convo, btw; we cranks are EVERYWHERE.)
I know what you mean. Directs put up with so much BS at the client site I work at only because they are entrenched with mortgages, spouses, kids, car payments. They are glued to L.A. More specifically the South Bay part of L.A.
Someday the tables will turn and there will be a major shortage of skilled engineers. The pay will go up. Everything is cyclic. There will be lots of overtime. I hear that this stuff is underway on the commercial side now in IT. I do not have the evidence, only that a yes man (recruiter) told me.
Mostly in stock index funds. I’m not against stocks. I’m against stocks in companies with retarded management. The companies won’t be in business much longer (unless they are subsidized by J Q Public). Sometimes have five different individual stocks. Now down to 2.
I guess your company will get on the news and complain that “there aren’t workers to fill these jobs.” I want to see one reporter, JUST ONE reporter, ask: “Then why don’t you offer more pay? If you pay enough, you can get anyone to move from anywhere in the country to do the job. After all, your vaunted free market applies to the labor market too.”
Comment by joe the S Corp IRA-stuffing private contractor representing goon
2013-04-22 07:07:25
We asked this to Overtaxed about a month ago (he hires engineers and has had a problem finding them at the price he wants to pay). It’s also not just the amount paid, it’s all the other things the companies want you to do. If you want someone to live and breathe your company 24/7 and be a competent representative with clients, you can’t pay an entry level wage or pay the same as someone could get with a random consulting gig.
He also has trouble hiring them because he admitted it was a dead end job. He wants people with lots of technical skills and qualifications who are willing to never use them again because he just needs them to have it for “legitimacy” but not to actually use the skills. That is a prime reason not to take a job even before you get to the outrageous travel schedule.
No argument here. But the point I make over and over is the free market will work for workers without massive governmental intervention if we just do one thing: limit immigration. But if you do not limit immigration, employers can cut wages, cut health benefits, and cut retirement and then leave it to government to meet health needs and ensure a living wage SNAP, EUC etc., due to the surplus of workers.
And tariff imported manufactured goods from countries that do not respect basic human rights.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 11:51:30
And do not have minimum enforced environmental standards. China does not meet this standard if anyone wonders.
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-04-22 12:25:58
You are right Dan. If Chinese people had the ability to choose representatives from more than one party, they would probably have those regulations. I know they don’t want to live in a poisonous environment.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 16:23:31
China burns almost 4 billion tons of coal per year. It does not use scrubbers on its coal plants even though some plants are equipped with them but the operators do not want the extra costs of running them. The amount of so2 it puts in the atmosphere is incredible. The coal China burns is filled with arsenic and mercury, most coal has a least trace amounts, but the coal it uses would not be allowed to be burned in the US. Despite this, think how rare it is to see an article on how China is messing up the world’s environment not just its own. The entire focus seems to be on co2 emissions from the developed world. Despite so2 emissions being the cause of acidification of bodies of water you would think that only c02 emissions cause acidification. A tax on traditional pollutants or a tariff on good produced in a dirty manner would increase employment in this country and decrease both our trade and tax deficits. Instead we want to impose additional burdens on our factories for producing c02 emissions. Seems like the environmental movement is being used by the globalists, instead of the movement dealing with the real environmental problem the world faces. We do not have to wait for democracy to come to China to clean up the environment. We need to treat real polluting countries like we treated South Africa in the 1980’s.
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2013-04-22 18:28:53
We need to substitute tariffs for taxes, period. Clinton signed in NAFTA and locked in the mechanism to make it far less possible to return to tariffs. The agreements are against tariffs to fund governments, so they turn on their own people. Seems most countries violate NAFTA, but not the U.S.
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2013-04-22 18:48:55
” so2 “
Interesting. I read of a plan to pump SO2 into the upper atmosphere to combat global warming. It might have been one of the Freakonomics books.
It wasn’t just you talking Brett off the homebuying ledge, Joe. I think we all did. But Brett had a lot of capacity to decrease his rent. His high rent wasn’t due to high rents in general; it was because he wanted to live “hip” in downtown. IIRC, even a five-mile commute in any direction cut the rent 30-40%, which shifted the rent/buy equation in favor of renting, at least in the short term. Which it looks like it’s going to be, if this company keeps cutting employees to hit the numbers.
(I think Brett ended up renting a near-downtown condo from an FB, which IMO was a good compromise.)
I’m still living downtown, but it’s a slightly older unit without granite, concierge or an infinity pool
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Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 09:45:06
Geez, you had more capacity to cut rent than I thought.
Comment by Brett
2013-04-22 10:16:35
My highest priority was location; the issue is that most units downtown are pretty new and offer ‘luxury’ finishes. Not many ‘affordable’ options
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-22 11:47:49
No granite? The horrors!
Comment by Brett
2013-04-22 14:25:49
I can barely breath sometimes when I have to carrying own packages to my place! It was nice having a concierge do it for you and someone to pick up your trash daily
And Ohbewanna the labors friend is allowing for profit companies to bypass labor laws and “hire” interns for free…
But wait….If you are Illegals in a sweatshop…the employer gets fined/jailed you get back wages and free lawyers….they raided a small factory just 10 blocks from here…and yup they got paid…
At least they pay them. As for blaming Obama for unpaid interns, they have been around for a long time.
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Comment by aNYCdj
2013-04-22 08:52:05
True Colorado but Under Ohbewanna its become a very acceptable practice…I had far more paying jobs under Bush…
Comment by polly
2013-04-22 10:41:29
Assuming that your experience is still even remotely relevant, dj, the reason you can’t get a job is because there are fewer jobs and you refuse to learn how to apply for them. You used to be able to get a job by walking in the front door and applying in person. You can’t anymore. So stop blaming the president and learn how to work the new application process.
If $22.50 per hour is “pretty well” paid, what exactly constitutes a well-paying job? Is $15 per hour good? What about $18 per hour? What are “good jobs?” I am really curious.
Upper management has realized deadlines will not be met with the current staff, so they have decided to offer last-minute interns to fill gaps! Fired a senior engineer? No problem! You get an intern to so his job! Do y’all wanna know what’s even worse? After interviewing a couple of people, management has come back and said the applicants not experienced enough!
LOL! That’s Dilbert pointy haired boss material. Interns not experienced enough? That is hilarious. Are they also unpaid interns, or do they get a “stipend”?
Anybody who has worked with a summer intern knows that not only are they less productive than an experienced employee, but they reduce the amount of work that the experienced, supervising employee can produce.
I suspect Brett’s employer will find that the deadlines will be harder to reach with the interns than if they hired nobody.
The aerospace layoffs of the mid-to-late 1960’s wrecked such carnage that it took a generation to recover. Their kids landed those 90K-a-year- just-out-of-college IT jobs and were just getting used to their cushy expectations when employers realized that the world was full of computer geeks who would be glad to work for ten cents on the dollar.
Unless you hold the patent, your smarts are largely self-defeating.
Another round of areospace layoffs in the early nineties caused a mini housing crash in CA. Or at least both things happened at the same time which was very bad timming for me.
Our diversified GS fixer has been talking about this for a long time: how management tries to shift to cheaper labor only to find that in the end, cheaper labor is more expensive.
That’s right eco. A lot of new-grad engineers don’t realize that their salaries are going to stagnate for the rest of their lives. The older engineers do not make very much more than the newbies.
My group lost about 45% of all engineering resources; the workload for the group stayed the same. ‘
Someone moved the cheese ( stupid book I had to read here at work I wonder why ? )
Often investors like to see how much a company spends on R&D. For any long term investment, if they still do long term investing anymore?
We are hiring like crazy in China or trying too anyway way cheaper. Once I get laid off from Engineering I plan to make money flipping homes hahahaha ( a joke for some of the humor impeded )
Simpson Mazzoli was approved in the United States Senate on September 19, 1985 by a vote of 69-30, when the GOP held the majority in that chamber 53-47. And yes the filibuster rules existed then.
“We quickly realized that if immigration reform was to work and be fair it had to be a “three-legged stool.” If one leg failed, so would the entire bill.
Leg one was improved security against illegal crossings at the border with Mexico…Leg two was the H-2A temporary worker program for agricultural workers… Leg three was what we called “legalization.” We would allow some, but not all, undocumented aliens then living and working here to regularize their unlawful status and begin the long process to earn temporary residency…
Although we do have pride of authorship, we also believe that the shortcomings of the act are not due to design failure but rather to the failure of both Democratic and Republican administrations since 1986 to execute the law properly.
After two decades, the system is still not in place. Unfortunately, what is in place is the use of several different identifiers, which were meant to be temporary, and a flourishing underground economy engaged in creating fraudulent documents for illegal immigrants.
All administrations since 1986 have allocated funding and personnel resources more generously to the task of securing the border than to enforcing IRCA in the workplace. Why? One answer is that there are never enough federal budget resources. Another is that administrations of both stripes are loathe to disrupt economic activities - i.e. labor supply in factories, farms and businesses.
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Simpson and Mazzoli’s words from 2006 still ring true today: their 1986 law would have worked, IF they spent the resources go after the employers who hired the workers, as the law requried. But who wants to get in the way of profits, right? In fact, the 2013 bill is shaping up to be a repeat of the 1986 law. And they’ll probably fail to enforce that one too.
..As for the filibuster: at the time, the no-cloture (non-talking) filibuster was in the rules, but there was a “gentleman’s agreement” to not abuse it. The minority generally respected the majority even in the Senate, and didn’t filibuster unless a bill was seen as extreme. Even during the Bush Admin the Dems would vote for cloture despite strong opposition to a bill. The one extreme case when the Dems tried to filibuster, to block the appointment of three “far-right” judges, brought on threats of a Nuclear Option to get rid of the filibuster altogether. After that, it’s been gridlock due to all filibuster all the time.
I agree it could have worked had someone like Reagan been around to enforce it. However, the globalists that followed him both republican and democrats had no intention to enforce border restrictions.
And the Democrats had more than 250 seats in the House. That is why I think it is funny that with the Republicans controlling the House, people talk about the party being dead. In the 1986 election the Republicans lost the Senate after participating in amnesty. The PTB are trying to convince rank and file Republicans that they must pass amnesty to remain viable but nothing could be further from the truth.
So, Reese Witherspoon and other big name stars along with Mayors Against Gun Violence “demand a plan” and are taking a stand against assault rifles which kill less than 323 people a year (mostly criminals killing criminals) while she takes part in an activity that kills 9,878 people a year and injures 1 every 90 seconds.
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By Victoria Cavaliere / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, December 27, 2012, 3:09 PM
Big names join the Mayors Against Gun Violence “demand a plan” campaign by taking a stand against assault rifles.
A long list of celebrities joined Mayor Bloomberg’s efforts to pressure Washington to pass gun control legislation that could prevent tragedies on the scale of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.
Beyonce, Jon Hamm, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell are among the celebrities who recorded a public service announcement sponsored by the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
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ATLANTA —
Oscar-winning actress Reese Witherspoon was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after a state trooper said she wouldn’t stay in the car while her husband was given a field sobriety test in Atlanta.
Witherspoon was released from jail after the Friday morning arrest and was in New York Sunday night for the premiere of her new film “Mud.” She posed for cameras on the red carpet but did not stop to talk to reporters.
The trooper noticed the car driven by her husband wasn’t staying in its lane early Friday morning, so a traffic stop was initiated. Her husband, James Toth, had droopy eyelids, watery, bloodshot eyes, and his breath smelled strongly of alcohol, according to the report.
Toth told the trooper he’d had a drink, which Witherspoon said was consumed at a restaurant two hours before the traffic stop, the trooper writes.
Before the field sobriety test began, the 37-year-old Witherspoon got out of the car, was told to get back in and obeyed, the report said. After the “Walk the Line” star got out a second time, the trooper said he warned her that she would be arrested if she left the car again.
As the test continued, “Mrs. Witherspoon began to hang out the window and say that she did not believe that I was a real police officer. I told Mrs. Witherspoon to sit on her butt and be quiet,” Trooper First Class J. Pyland writes.
Toth, 42, was then placed under arrest. He was charged with driving under the influence and failure to maintain the lane.
At that point, the report says, Witherspoon got out and asked the trooper what was going on. After being told to return to the car, she “stated that she was a ‘US Citizen’ and that she was allowed to ’stand on American ground,’” the report states.
The trooper then began to arrest Witherspoon. The report says Witherspoon was resistant at first but was calmed down by her husband.
“Do you know my name?” Witherspoon is quoted as asking the trooper. She also said: “You’re about to find out who I am” and “You’re about to be on national news,” according to the report.
Toth and Witherspoon were then taken to jail.
A message left at the office of Witherspoon’s publicist, Meredith O’Sullivan Wasson, wasn’t immediately returned Sunday.
News of the arrest broke shortly before Witherspoon arrived on the “Mud” red carpet.
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In 2011, 9,878 people died in drunk driving crashes - one every 53 minutes
In 2010, 211 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Out of those 211 deaths, 131 (62 percent) were riding with the drunk driver.
Almost every 90 seconds, a person is injured in a drunk driving crash.
Good Question: How Many People Are Killed By Assault Rifles?
February 12, 2013 11:04 PM
The same story plays out across the nation. Of the 12,664 murders in 2011 reported to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, 6,220 were committed with handguns — about 49 percent of the total report.
By comparison, killers used a rifle on 323 people, 2.5 percent of all murders. Assault rifle murders aren’t split out, but it’s safe to assume it’s less than the 323.
Most put the number of assault weapon murders as between 1 and 2 percent of all murders.
In 2011, knives were used in 1,694 murders. Fists and feet were used in 728 murders, and blunt objects –like clubs, bats and hammers – were used in 496 murders.
That’s an interesting point about drunk driving. Let’s tie that back to the recent discussion of Muslim immigration. Since Islam forbids consumption of alcohol, this is a point in favor of letting in the Muslims.
Obama is a muslim. When he was the governor of Illinois he voted against the authorization of use of force cus he was too busy rewarding all his labor union campaign contributors and looked the other way when they blew up our U.S.S.Cole and then nobody saw it coming when Saddam Hussein flew his planes into World Trade Center and it could have all been prevented but Obama voted against it.
Reese Witherspoon has spoken out in the wake of her surprising Friday night arrest and brief jailing for disorderly conduct, releasing a contrite statement of apology for her uncharacteristic, headline-grabbing behavior.
“Out of respect for the ongoing legal situation, I cannot comment on everything that is being reported right now,” she said. “But I do want to say, I clearly had one drink too many and I am deeply embarrassed about the things I said.
“It was definitely a scary situation and I was frightened for my husband, but that is no excuse.”
“I was disrespectful to the officer who was just doing his job,” she continued. “I have nothing but respect for the police and I’m very sorry for my behavior.”
I still hope she is going to sue, while keeping a “respectful” attitude. Being drunk is not illegal, nor is being disrespectful. As a matter of fact, cops are about the most disrespectful bunch of people I have ever met.
Americans have been whipsawed by devastating cycles of boom and bust over the past three decades. Now some at the Fed want us to go through it again.
There is a word for people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results: insane. Let’s hope that they don’t constitute a majority of the Fed’s voting members, or we will once again be doomed to another destructive and pointless cycle of boom and bust.
There is a word for people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results: insane.
Most overused BS statement so far this century. What if the conditions and environment change so that doing the same thing again DOES give a different result? That’s probably why people are doing something over — they saw (or thought they saw) the conditions change. And many times conditions DO change. That’s not insanity; that’s “memory” and “intelligence.”
It the conditions are different than are you really doing the same thing? If we had 7% growth, I would have no problem with the size of the deficit, we would be growing are way out of it. However, it is clear under the circumstances we are now in the policies of printing money, increased governmental control, and large deficits are not working and continuing them is insanity.
CNN playing with numbers again. The national debt is over 100% today and continues to rise. The deficits are beginning to fall but are still increasing the debt in both nominal amounts and as a percentage of the GDP. We are moving to a 17 trillion dollar debt and have a GDP just over 15 trillion and CNN throws out a number around 75% of GDP what crap.
With an economy around 16 trillion and growth about 2% and inflation around two percent and a debt around 16.5 trillion (over 100% of the GDP), any deficit over $660 billion will put us even deeper in debt as a percentage of our GDP. Guess what, I do not see that deficit projected for this year, another year of digging the hole deeper.
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-22 10:25:45
deficits are beginning to fall but are still increasing the debt in both nominal amounts and as a percentage of the GDP
Oh really? From the article:
“What’s more, the national debt that has accumulated from annual deficits is also projected to fall to an estimated 73.1% of GDP in 2018 from an estimated 76.3% today. ”
Looks the trend is our friend. Unless you want us to fail, of course…
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 11:54:30
And I have challenged the numbers that they are using. How can we have a national debt over 16 trillion and a GDP less than 16 trillion and have a national debt which is 75% of the GDP?
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-04-22 12:23:59
You’re including intra-governmental holdings, which apparently aren’t normally included in the ratio :
“On 2 April 2013, debt held by the public was approximately $11.959 trillion or about 75% of GDP. Intra-governmental holdings stood at $4.846 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $16.805 trillion.”
wikipedia
Comment by brother_jimmy
2013-04-22 12:31:04
Yeah, housing buyers are playing with OPM. In my situation, I offered two properties at 96% of list, over the areas 94% avg of list sale prices. Both offers beat by list + asking prices. now prices are getting over $100/sqft. This is insane.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 16:26:25
You’re including intra-governmental holdings, which apparently aren’t normally included in the ratio :
They were normally included when Bush was in office by CNN and they should normally be included now.
And it’s always cheaper to rent than to buy. ALWAYS. Right?
Please explain why you think Irving Kristol, David Feith, Norman Podhoretz, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, or Richard Perle is “progressive”? (Seriously curious here.)
I support gun rights and auditing the FED, that doesn’t make me a Teabilly. Bila supports drug rights and sexual choice, that doesn’t make him a liberal. I rather imagine Paul Wolfowitz would take exception to being characterized as Marxist.
Comment by Joe the patriotic IRA-stuffing S Corp "job creator"
2013-04-22 07:55:04
I raised the issue to RAL, but he claims that “alot” isn’t a mistake, he really knows that it is “a lot”. He wants to keep “alot” for emphasis. He’s the boss, so…
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-22 08:40:54
If our quarterly earnings are week, RAL is probably might outsource my job or bring unpaid interns aboard, so I don’t dare question His judgment about the “alot” thing.
“With rates now relatively low, this could be an auspicious time to buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage. That could make good sense for people who aren’t out to bet on the housing or mortgage markets but are instead focused on settling into a home for the long term.”
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-22 08:44:46
I agree with the 2nd sentence of that quote, I’m just posting this to see if RAL’s blood boils since He quotes Shiller alot [sic] here on the HBB.
The way I see it, the intention to live in a house for a lengthy period of time (possibly one’s whole life) is one of the few things that might cause someone to buy a house these days. Personally I want to live in mine until I die, only decades will show if that comes to pass. Hopefully five decades when we’re back in an ice age or witness the 2nd coming of RAL’s cousin Jesus Christ.
Personally I want to live in mine until I die, only decades will show if that comes to pass.
I’d love to be able to plan that far ahead. Unfortunately that’s not compatible with my career aspiration of having a career no matter what. There are only a few places where you can be almost certain of being able to have a tech career for life without moving. And as we discuss here ad nauseum, those places are extremely overpriced.
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Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 10:13:41
I agree, Carl. I only bought because of the very stable job.
This is a systemic conflict that NOBODY has addressed yet. The macroeconomic labor (national) climate favors transience, while the microeconmic (family finance) climate favors staying put and buying.
It’s also ironic that those who have the income to afford and benefit from staying put — i.e. professionals — are the most likely to have to move to keep good jobs. Meanwhile, those who are most likely to stay put — lucky duckies* — don’t have the income to benefit from buying a house.
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*If a lucky ducky loses one McJob, he can at least find a similar McJob in the same metro area relatively quickly.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-22 13:52:40
“I only bought because of the very stable job.”
Ditto for me and my wife. That said, in the downside case, my skill set could get me employed in different parts of the country…however, my wife’s is especially well suited to where we live, which make us unlikely to relocate.
“According to Sonja Lyubomirsky, you have a happiness set point. It’s partly encoded in your genes. If something good happens, your sense of happiness rises; if something bad happens, it falls.
Dr. Lyubomirsky’s findings can be provocative and, at times, counterintuitive. Renters are happier than homeowners, she says.”
Renters are happier than homeowners?
Buy a house today and your misery will be incalculable.
I used to hate the thought of going somewhere far away. After moving a couple times, I realized that I am never far away. I am always located at the exact spot of where I am.
This AP article containing this quote was published on 4/15, just hours after the Boston bombings.
“Across the U.S., from Washington to Los Angeles, police stepped up security, monitoring landmarks, government buildings, transit hubs and sporting events. Security was especially tight in Boston, with bomb-sniffing dogs checking Amtrak passengers’ luggage at South Station and transit police patrolling with rifles.
“They can give me a cavity search right now and I’d be perfectly happy,” said Daniel Wood, a video producer from New York City who was waiting for a train.”
Why did the AP include this quote from Mr. Wood in the article?
What is the intended message to readers from this quote?
And what is the desired reaction from readers to this quote?
Why did they include the quote? Because it is interesting enough that you noticed it and posted a link to the article on a blog. Your interest in the quote might cause other people to go to the article. That increases traffic to their site and earns them money.
Yup. The school marm who cannot get enough government. Stalin is her idol.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 07:14:45
I do not want government paying for Mr. Wood’s pleasure, if he wants to get a woody due to a full cavity search, he is going to have to pay for it with his own money.
You respond with an ad hominem criticism. You’re turning to the teabilly side a little more every day, goon.
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Comment by Joe the patriotic IRA-stuffing S Corp "job creator"
2013-04-22 07:56:52
I think he says these things because they are memes, meant in a light hearted way.
Comment by polly
2013-04-22 08:20:40
Goon often does. But Bile doesn’t. And Bile’s definition of “statist” is anyone who believes in any kind of government at all, at least at the federal level. It would be pathetic if it weren’t so funny.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-22 09:12:17
“I think he says these things because they are memes, meant in a light hearted way.”
That’s only clever for a while.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-22 09:21:59
That’s only clever for a while.
True, but compared to the competition it’s a long long while.
You think an AP reporter writing during a major breaking news story is inserting quotes to further an agenda? Geeze, not everything is a conspiracy. If someone said that to me as a reporter, it would for sure get in the story. Just as if someone said “I’d rather die than get cavity search.” or some similar thing. Most journalists are just trying to get their story, file it and move on to the next one.
Selling city assets to pay insane public union promises.
Paid for by the last generation of taxpayers.
What is left for the next generation?
Nothing but DEBT.
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United States Decaying From Within! Stocks, Gold and Dollar Outlook
The Market Oracle | 4-21-2013 | Robert M Williams
No one seemed to notice or care that on June 28, 2012 the City of Stockton, California filed a petition for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection with the United States Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of California, Sacramento, Case No. 2012-32118. On Monday, April 1, 2013, a federal judge ruled that Stockton was eligible for bankruptcy protection, over the objection of creditors who argued the city could come up with more money. U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Klein said Stockton can move forward with a plan to reorganize debt. He twice stated that the creditors had acted in bad faith and had refused to pay their share of the costs for negotiations.
As a result Stockton became the nation’s largest city to fail financially. At that time, all eyes were on the port city of 300,000 as experts warned the action could set off a string of similar filings among cash-strapped municipalities. Since then half dozen cities have filed for Chapter 9 protection under the U.S. Bankruptcy Code, including the city of San Bernardino. Of course the media never mentions this. During the 90-day mediation period, Stockton’s creditors refused to negotiate unless the city cut payments to the state pension plan known as CaLPERS. By law the negotiations were confidential, but that detail emerged during the three-day trial that concluded last week. Judge Klein said the creditors could not legally walk away from the table, but he left the door open for CaLPERS obligations to be part of negotiations in the coming phases of the bankruptcy. At issue will be whether U.S. bankruptcy law trumps California law, which says the pension plan must be funded.
The $900 million Stockton owes to the California Public Employees Retirement System (CaLPERS) to cover pensions is its biggest debt -– as is the case with many cities in California. Stockton slashed its police and fire departments, halted bond payments, cut employee benefits and adopted an emergency-spending plan that cut many city services. But the city continues to pay into the state pension. Stockton’s bankruptcy is expected to be closely watched for precedent, and could be appealed as high as the US Supreme Court.
Two of America’s larger cities and relics from the industrial age, Detroit and Philadelphia, are also in serious financial trouble. With respect to Detroit the Governor, Rick Snyder, declared a state of financial emergency two months ago. The Governor pointed to more than $14 billion in long-term liabilities, including underfunded pensions. The city is also poised to end the fiscal year more than $100 million in the red without an infusion of cash, this in a report published last week. The Governor then named Kevyn Orr as the city’s emergency manger giving him many of the same powers as a bankruptcy judge. He can throw out contracts with public employee unions and vendors that the city can’t afford, and he can make further cutbacks in already depleted city services if he decides the city can’t afford them.
Philadelphia isn’t much better off as it attempted to convince bond buyers to take on more of its debt in an effort to avoid bankruptcy. As it turned out Philadelphia’s closed-door two-day schmooze fest with 100 bond underwriters and other would-be lenders only served to generate unwelcome publicity for the nation’s most broke big (million plus residents) city.
Philadelphia was hoping to attract investors for the city, which is rated three steps above junk by Standard & Poor’s. The city and its authorities have $8.75 billion in outstanding debt as of September, according to bond documents, and these same documents also show Philadelphia has less than 50 cents set aside for every $1 it expects to pay current and future retirees.
The conference also includes tours of city assets for sale set for day two, including the Philadelphia Gas Works, the largest municipally owned natural-gas utility in the U.S. The city plans to hire a broker to steer the sale of the system, which may fetch as much as $496 million, according to Lazard Ltd., this according to Bloomberg.
I have been following the markets for more decades than I care to remember and I began to get a whiff of corruption back in the Reagan era. Now the markets have what I can only describe as the stench of death. Anyone who’s ever spent time on a battlefield, or around a natural disaster with a lot of fatalities, knows what I’m referring to. You never forget it! The sources of this stench are the rotting corpses of many failed policies and broken promises. Free markets are now being replaced by a welfare system that is attempting to do the impossible. The government wants to legislate the poor into prosperity and yet it forgets that it cannot give something to someone with out first taking something from someone else!
Back before we began to meddle with the markets and redistribute wealth, the US rose to be the richest creditor nation in the world. It did so with a comparatively small government, no income tax, no central bank and using gold and silver as money! Then came the 1907 crash that devastated Wall Street and Mr. Morgan got together with Mr. Rothschild and decided to make sure that wouldn’t happen again. Out of this was born the US Federal Reserve and the IRS, and both began to operate in 1913. Since then America’s wealth, your wealth, has declined to the point where the US is now the largest debtor nation on the planet. All of your wealth has affectively been transferred to a very select few, and you are left to pay off the debts.
Along the way there have been changes designed to circumvent the US Constitution, and without a doubt these changes limit your freedom. Americans can now be held indefinitely and even executed without due process. Now we’ll use the bombings in Boston as an excuse to do away with whatever obstacles might still be in the way. What happened most recently in Cyprus is a coming attraction to what will happen to your IRA’s and deposits in American banks once people realize what a house of cards they are. Meanwhile these select few are out there buying all the gold, silver, available farm land and any other tangible, useful asset they can get their hands on because they know what’s coming.
“Meanwhile these select few are out there buying all the gold, silver, available farm land and any other tangible, useful asset they can get their hands on because they know what’s coming.”
Shortly after IRA’s and deposits are taken, the other tangible, useful assets will be also.
Both used to be the “great” future indicators of an economy (before forced zero interest rates, before $7 Trillion in new deficit spending and before the government borrowed 46 cents of every dollar it spent).
Caterpillar (CAT) posted earnings and revenue that missed Wall Street expectations on Monday, and cut its full-year outlook for 2013 to reflect a drop in demand for heavy equipment from its mining customers.
Caterpillar posted quarterly earnings excluding items of $1.31 per share, down from $2.37 per share in the comparable year-ago period. Revenue sank to $13.21 billion from $15.98 billion a year ago.
I heard one guy speak about CAT’s international problems specifically with respect to Japanese currency devaluation. Namely that CAT is going to lose a lot of business to Japanese heavy equipment manufacturers as the Yen falls.
I wonder if any of CAT’s weakness had to do with the weakening Yen (or anticipation of a weaker Yen).
Has Japan’s devaluing of the Yen hurt Korea auto sales yet? Korea has over 50% of their GDP tied to two sectors; Samsung and the auto export business.
Looking at the drop in the Yen I would think american car buyers should be experiencing some price deflation?
The Japanese(with explicit US support) have pissed off the Chinese government and most of the chinese consumers (and destroyed their auto sales in China looking at the latest sales numbers). There maybe a full blown trade war developing between several Asian nations.
On copper, I’m thinking of buying a rain chain. There are many beautiful ones, but they are made of copper and I’m afraid it wouldn’t last long on the corner of the house. I’ll have to settle for a less-pretty coated aluminum one.
SINCE 1997, we have lived through the biggest real estate bubble in United States history — followed by the most calamitous decline in housing prices that the country has ever seen.
The Housing Haze
Second of three columns.
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Fundamental factors like inflation and construction costs affect home prices, of course. But the radical shifts in housing prices in recent years were caused mainly by investor-induced speculation.
Anyone contemplating the purchase of a home wants an idea of where prices will be when it is eventually time to sell, perhaps many years later. For that kind of long-term forecasting, we need to understand the reasons for the recent, violent price cycle, and whether it is likely to repeat itself.
History has much to teach us about real estate bubbles, and some of it is reassuring. The land booms of New York State in the 1790s, Kansas in the 1850s, California in the 1880s and Florida in the 1920s all appear to have been relatively isolated events. And the cycle was not repeated in short order.
But those events were fundamentally different from the recent housing bubble. As relatively local phenomena, involving a fairly small number of adventurers, they did not consume most people’s attention. And a major cause can be easily identified: they developed from the promotion of supposedly valuable lots of land.
In fact, outside of New York City and a few urban centers, most speculators in past decades didn’t focus much on home prices. The term “housing bubble” was not even in their vocabulary. Land, not houses, was the object of their desires. They had “land mania” or “land fever.”
As president in the 1790s, George Washington helped promote the sale of lots in his namesake capital city, and even bought some himself. Earlier in his life, he was a surveyor, and in 1763, he was a founder of the Mississippi Land Company, which was to acquire land, survey and subdivide it, and sell off individual farm and town plots to settlers. While his involvement in the development of Washington, D.C., was ultimately successful, his earlier company failed.
Land fevers tend to have a definite starting point and vector of contagion: they begin when a promoter subdivides land into lots small enough for many investors, and are usually accompanied by an advertising blitz with glowing descriptions of the future town and country, setting off a buzz and speculative excitement.
The Florida land bubble of the 1920s provided a turning point in public opinion, thanks to newspaper reporting around the country that made it clear that a mania was being artfully promoted. Anne O’Hare McCormick wrote in The New York Times in 1925: “What impressed me most was that every jungle and swamp and palmetto hummock from Lake City to Key West is staked out in city lots and offered for sale as building sites.” Such colorful writing can have a lasting impact. Many people now remember the image of the trusting Northerner unwittingly buying a lot in a Florida swamp. And the whole enterprise of subdivision, advertising and promotion of empty lots for sale, which made the manias possible, faded.
Shady operators were called purveyors of “premature subdivisions” and “defunct subdivisions.” Local regulators came to demand that development plans were at least intended to produce homes that people would actually live in, not sham operations to defraud ignorant investors.
The first widely documented, nationwide speculative fever attached to single-family homes, as opposed to lots, was in the housing boom of 1943 to 1950. But home prices remained relatively quiet for many years thereafter. Starting in the 1970s, home price bubbles became more frequent and severe. By the end of the 20th century, housing speculation became at least a pastime for many Americans.
“Land fevers tend to have a definite starting point and vector of contagion: they begin when a promoter subdivides land into lots small enough for many investors, and are usually accompanied by an advertising blitz with glowing descriptions of the future town and country, setting off a buzz and speculative excitement.”
So when did the government start guaranteeing the RE loans?
Prices of existing owner-occupied dwellings were on average 7.0 percent lower in March 2013 than in March 2012. The price drop is less substantial than in the previous month, when house prices dropped by 8.3 percent. The index - a joint publication by Statistics Netherlands and the Land Registry Office - reflects price changes of existing owner-occupied dwellings in the Netherlands.
Prices of existing own homes
Prices of existing owner-occupied dwellings were at the same level in March 2013 as in August 2003. They were more than 18 percent down from August 2008, when house prices reached a record high.
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Data from the housing market out today shows that sales were down 15.3 per cent in March compared to the same period last year. Given the events of the past decade, it is natural to worry about the possibility that Canada is headed for a U.S.-style housing meltdown.
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House prices across Northern Ireland have fallen more than in any other UK region over the past year, new official figures have shown.
They suffered an annual slump of almost 8%, tumbling to an average of £125,000, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
That represents a fifth year of falling Northern Ireland house prices, following a period of strong increases. In contrast a recent Ulster Bank report showed prices here had steadied for the first time since 2007.
The ONS said average UK prices climbed by 1.9% year-on-year in February, with England and Wales driving the increase as Northern Ireland and Scotland posted falls.
In Northern Ireland they tumbled by 7.7% to reach £125,000.
But estate agent John Minnis said his company, which operates in Belfast and north Down, hadn’t seen house prices fall by much.
“Sales have risen dramatically in the last 12 months and we’ve also seen a steadying up of prices across the board, and I’ve no evidence to support price falls of 8%,” said Mr Minnis.
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Alan Shatter: will launch the guidelines with the Insolvency Service of Ireland. Photograph: Mac Innes Photography/Department of the Taoiseach via Getty Images
Long-awaited guidelines on living standards for insolvent debtors will be published in Government Buildings tomorrow afternoon.
Last month Taoiseach Enda Kenny moved to assure “every person in the country, man and woman, particularly women, that no guideline laid down by the personal insolvency agency will be mandatory or have a condition that anybody has to give up a job”.
He was speaking after a series of leaks suggested insolvent debtors may have to give up their jobs if their income is less than the cost of childcare, while health insurance and cars may also have to be surrendered.
Under the leaked draft guidelines, families who entered an insolvency arrangement could be forbidden from taking holidays for as long as six years, while a single adult will be allowed just €31 a month to cover health costs.
The leaks also suggested the Insolvency Service of Ireland, which will launch the guidelines tomorrow with Minister for Justice Alan Shatter, considered allowing a single person just €29 a week for “social participation”, while people who live close to a public transport network may be forced to sell their cars and be given a monthly allowance of €136 to spend on public transport.
Just over €100 was to be allowed to cover all energy costs, while single people were to be given €20 a month to cover emergencies.
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Wow, micromanaged austerity! For some perspective and context, I wiki-ed up “Bankruptcy in the Republic of Ireland.”
From what I can tell, the Irish Parliament revisited the strict bankruptcy laws a couple years ago, when they figured out there were a ton of housing bankruptcies waiting to happen. Personal Insolvency is one route to settle bankruptcy. Under this program, debtors voluntarily submit to micro-managed austerity* in exchange for more lenient bankruptcy terms of three years, or as part of a payment plan. There might even be debt cancellation, but the details are foggy to me. How do they plan to enforce €29 in “social participation” (ie pubbing and clubbing)?
IMO this would never fly in the US. Way too much nanny-stating, even for a voluntary program.
Europe can look pretty alright at the moment. Stocks are up, bonds are steady, the Cyprus bailout is not going to be a knockout blow.
But in Spain, there are still problems as big as a house. Or more accurately, as big as hundreds of thousands of houses.
A Moody’s Investors Service report Monday said Spanish property values will continue to fall for at least another five years. The math that leads to that figure might be complicated, but the rationale is easy enough: there are too many houses to sell at a time when over a quarter of the population is unemployed. Those with jobs are worried about a prolonged recession. To top it off, banks just aren’t lending like they used to, and a government subsidy for people buying their first homes was abandoned in January.
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From pristine beaches to palaces, entire islands and its London embassy, a nation in crisis is selling its assets, writes Harriet Alexander.
The coast at Afandou is part of the Greek government’s desperate attempts to raise money by privatising its vast portfolio of state-owned assets. Photo: ALAMY
By Harriet Alexander, Rhodes
6:00PM BST 20 Apr 2013
As George Georgas drives his golf buggy along the sea front, the sprightly 80-year-old muses on why this is the best stretch of coast in the world.
The beach is the longest on the Greek island of Rhodes – four miles of crystal waters, flanked by a gently sloping pebble shore. The 18-hole golf course that flanks it is lined with olive trees and wild flowers, and there is scarcely a hotel or high rise in sight.
Mr Georgas has played here for over 30 years. And now he thinks the government should sell it.
“We are like a bankrupt housewife forced to sell the silver, to save the family,” he said. “Greece has no choice.”
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Sharon Connor stands to lose upwards of €50,000 after her profits from a house sale remain frozen in a bank on the island
Helena Smith
The Observer, Saturday 13 April 2013
Sharon Connor, the money from the sale of her house in Cyprus is frozen in the Cyprus bank crisis. Photograph: Graham Turner for the Guardian
Tragedy first struck Sharon Connor when her husband, Gary, was killed by a heart attack in January last year. He had just turned 54. From running a successful scuba-diving business on Cyprus, the mother-of-two found herself catapulted into a world of grief, unable to even visit the ornate, two-storey villa the couple had bought on the island.
“It took me five months before I could set foot in the place,” said Connor, who was on her own when she found her husband dead in bed. “I still have flashbacks and see it in my head all the time.”
In March the widow decided to put the property on the market. In the space of three days she had found a buyer, located a new home in the UK and a job outside London. “I was trying to move forward with my life,” the 55-year-old told the Observer from Kent, “until I found myself caught up in the nightmare scenario that has befallen Cyprus”.
This weekend the Briton faces the prospect of financial ruin following the shattering news that the proceeds from her house sale – €181,000 (£155,000) – will remain frozen in the Bank of Cyprus as a result of capital controls enforced to contain the crisis.
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(ANSAmed) - ROME - The big impact the recession is having on Italy’s housing market was shown on Monday when Istat said property sales in the third quarter of last year were down by over 23%.
It said 134,984 property sales were closed at notaries between July and September last year, 23.1% down on the same three months in the previous year.
The national statistics agency added that the number of mortgages granted in the first nine months of 2012 was 39.5% lower than in the same period of 2011.
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Greater Vancouver housing sales plunge 29% BRENT JANG
VANCOUVER — The Globe and Mail
Published Monday, Mar. 04 2013, 1:53 PM EST
Last updated Monday, Mar. 04 2013, 5:01 PM EST
Housing sales in Greater Vancouver fell 29 per cent last month as sellers held out for improved bids and prospective buyers bided their time.
There were 1,797 transactions last month for single-family detached homes, condos and townhouses, compared with 2,545 in February of 2012.
The benchmark price for resale properties was $590,400 last month, down 3.3 per cent from a year earlier, according to the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver.
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Nearly a quarter of condos in Vancouver are empty or occupied by non-residents in some dense areas of downtown, a signal that investors play a significant role in the city’s housing market.
And the city overall has a much higher rate of empty apartments and houses than other Canadian cities, with a rate closer to places like New York and San Francisco at the height of their mortgage crisis in 2010.
Downtown, the rate is so high that it’s as though there were 35 towers at 20 storeys apiece – empty.
That’s the latest discovery that adjunct UBC planning professor Andrew Yan made when he analyzed 2011 census numbers to try to add more information to the contentious debate over whether Vancouver is turning into a high-end resort or offshore investors’ holding tank.
He revealed those numbers Wednesday night, as a capacity crowd turned out to listen to speakers on a panel at SFU Woodward’s talk about “foreign investment in Vancouver real estate.”
In all, the city of Vancouver appears to have about 7,500 more vacant housing units than what would be expected in most other Canadian cities. For Metro Vancouver, there are around 15,000 to 20,000 more.
That sign of high vacancies and non-resident-owned units, which contradict some other studies and assurances that Vancouver is not being flooded with investors, should give the city pause, analysts say.
“What kind of community are you living in if there are that many empty? For a city to have that kind of vacancy, it’s like cancer,” said Richard Wozny, a real estate consultant, during an interview Wednesday. “It distorts density and it’s delaying the impact. It raises the question ‘Are we over-building?’”
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Who wants to read about all that far away nonsense? Let’s talk about USA, and specifically Atlanta. I made so much money on Atlanta investment properties in the past five years and in spite of what the HBB chorus of nattering nabobs of negativism said that I decided to buy my own Applebee’s franchise! Now I’ll never wait for a table again, cus I own this f*ing place…
Comment by joe the S Corp IRA-stuffing private contractor representing goon
2013-04-22 05:54:23
“With rates now relatively low, this could be an auspicious time to buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage. That could make good sense for people who aren’t out to bet on the housing or mortgage markets but are instead focused on settling into a home for the long term. ”
I “lost” money at the elementary school fair’s carnival games this weekend, but my kids had such a great time that it’s cool. The prizes were as follows: Perform flawlessly at the game, win two pieces of candy. Fail at the game disastrously, win one piece of candy.
My point is, since people are not robots, they (we, I) often spend money on things with nothing more than an emotionally satisfying return and a complete monetary loss. I think I would be pretty sad if I looked at every cent I spent as only a financial win or loss. Maybe that’s why I don’t have much money, but whatever. To each his own.
You are making the same conceptual error as macdummy:
Losing money on carnival fair games or even a falling-value car purchase should not be equated to throwing away your life’s savings on a falling knife real estate purchase.
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Comment by joe the S Corp IRA-stuffing private contractor representing g00n
2013-04-22 07:48:24
Anyone who spends a big enough fraction of their $ on housing (either by renting or buying) and thus throws away “life savings” is ridiculously stupid.
Housing is an expense. You can match the expense to your lifestyle, you can take steps to mitigate it, etc.
You have to be in the business of building/landlording/renovating before you should view it as an “investment”. And even then, god help you if it’s your “life savings”.
Western thought is really stupid regarding housing. “Housing is an investment” and “life savings” don’t belong in a discussion about housing.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-22 09:22:24
It’s not so stupid if you look to who gains from such thinking.
For them, it’s perfectly legit if not a god given divine right.
Comment by perkonkrusts
2013-04-22 12:55:56
Thanks Joe, you said it perfectly. I don’t advocate anyone spending all of their life savings on anything, but if someone wants to spend a little (or a lot) more on something they both can afford and makes them happier, good for them.
Comment by Bigsby
2013-04-22 13:54:37
Oh…. so long as you’re “happy”? Got it.
Hows the knitting club going?
Comment by perkonkrusts
2013-04-22 14:35:04
Yes, as long as I’m happy, can afford it, and I’m not hurting anyone else. Knitting club sucks, those ladies are not as nice as you would think they would be.
Comment by Bigsby
2013-04-22 14:45:42
What did you pay for your debt-shack?
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-04-22 19:39:46
“Housing is an investment” and “life savings” don’t belong in a discussion about housing.
Au contraire. By its definition before it was bastardized by stupid gamblers buying houses they couldn’t afford, only to predictably lose their shirts, “investing” and “life savings” were two sides of the same coin.
Eating lunch is a loss, but I can choose whether I want to loose $2 or loose $20 buying lunch.
Paying interest to rent money from a bank for overpriced housing, however, results in incalculable losses.
And your above example of fail at the game and still be rewarded with candy, is exactly what’s wrong with America. Everybody gets to be a winner, everybody has high self-esteem, nobody is ever told that they are a looser. Guess what, not everybody gets to be an astronaut when they grow up.
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Comment by it's hard out here for a pimp
2013-04-22 07:52:58
nobody is ever told that they are a looser.
May be there’s a reason nobody is told they are a loser. Do you want a mass shooting in your mall/school/marathon?
Imagine a world where people are told the truth. Man I don’t want to to be around these people when they are going thru their anger phase.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 10:46:22
You know, when you’re not repeating your usual mantras, you have some really good posts. Like this one. +1
Comment by perkonkrusts
2013-04-22 12:52:28
goon, that’s way over the top. “Exactly what’s wrong with America” is that my 1st grader, K5, and 3-year old win one Tootsie Roll when they didn’t pop a balloon with a dart? That’s really what you think caused America’s problems? The older people who got America into this mess didn’t grow up with everyone winning, so I’m not sure how you make that connection.
Plus, like most parents, I don’t shelter my kids from losing. My two boys go to Tae Kwon Do and get beat up and lose more than they win. I just don’t think in every aspect of life they should always lose no matter how hard they try. There’s a balance, right?
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-04-22 15:18:48
Eating lunch is a win, because it gives me the energy needed this afternoon to do the work I need to do in order to buy lunch again tomorrow.
That’s because it was not an option for you to rent the tickets. See the diff there?
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Comment by perkonkrusts
2013-04-22 12:53:41
Yes, but I had a choice not to buy them. To spend more and lose or less and not lose. I chose to lose. That was my point, that sometimes we choose to lose money because some money-losing things make us happier.
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-04-22 14:01:02
perk:
You didn’t lose money by buying the tickets. You spent money. Losing money is when you overpay.
Do me a favor, joe smith. Take the word “goon” out of your extended username. When searching HBB threads for my own (numerous) postings I have to scroll through all of yours now too.
If life were a 1950s sitcom, college graduates would zoom out of school, get a job, buy a house, buy a car and get married. But these days, student loans are just one of many reason debtors under 30 are staying far away from the housing and auto markets. That, and life isn’t a sitcom. A new report from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shows that this age group could be a drag on the economy by the very fact that they aren’t participating in it.
Because younger people aren’t able to join in the fun of buying homes and cars, and instead are stuck with low credit scores, reports the bank’s Liberty Street Economics blog. A third of borrowers are in repayment delinquency as of the end of 2012, making those people a lot less likely to spend big and boots the economy.
“Now, for the first time in at least 10 years, 30-year-olds with no history of student loans are more likely to have home-secured debt than those with a history of student loans,” wrote the authors of the data analysis.
This is surprising because in the past, it held true that the more educated a person was, the more likely it was for them to have higher incomes and thus, spend some of that income on buying a home. But now that student debt has taken off, and there aren’t perhaps as many jobs floating around out there with nice fat salaries, this isn’t the case anymore.
If things keep going this way, even more of the under 30 age group could be in debt: Back in 2003, 25% of 25-year-olds had student debt. That number has ballooned to 43% of the same age group, with the total debt balance growing by 91% in that time period, from $10,649 to $20,326.
The past twenty years have been very, very kind to the 0.1%.
But any discussion of that is just “class warfare”, and proposing to implement a transaction tax on stock trades would be HEY LOOK! ONE OF THOSE OCCUPY WALL STREET BUMS JUST TOOK A DUMP ON A POLICE CAR!
“This is surprising because in the past, it held true that the more educated a person was, the more likely it was for them to have higher incomes and thus, spend some of that income on buying a home.”
MADRID (MarketWatch) — Gold futures shot higher on Monday after data showed some investors expect prices for the precious metal to rebound after their recent selloff. Copper, meanwhile, continued to fall after Goldman Sachs cut its forecasts for the metal.
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April 22, 2013, 8:59 a.m. EDT Too much Apple and gold
Commentary: Why both investments dominate so many portfolios
By Chuck Jaffe, MarketWatch
If your mutual funds have been disappointing this year — at a time when the market is up about 9% year-to-date — there are three likely causes:
1. Apple Inc.
2. Gold
3. Something else
There was a time not that long ago, when the exact same list of factors could have been the reason your mutual funds were killing it, and outperforming the competition.
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April 22, 2013, 7:01 a.m. EDT Apple ‘miss’ may already be priced in Street cutting estimates cut on March, June quarters ahead of report
By Dan Gallagher, MarketWatch
Apple CEO Tim Cook introduces the iPhone 5 at an event last December. The company’s stock hit a peak just above $700 two weeks later before starting a precipitous downslide.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — A key question for Apple Inc.’s investors heading into what is likely to be a challenging earnings report on Tuesday afternoon is whether the stock — down nearly 45% since last fall — has been punished enough.
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Apple (AAPL +1.47%) CEO Tim Cook may have more riding on this week’s quarterly results than investors, according to Forbes Contributor Gene Marcial.
That’s because dissatisfaction with Apple’s stock performance during Cook’s tenure is on the rise. The stock closed at a fresh 52-week low of $390 Friday.
Before anybody gets too excited, however, it’s probably worth considering that Marcial’s sourcing appears a bit thin: “Some Wall Street sources close to some Apple executives say such a move is afoot.”
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I think that a key part of Apple’s success has to do with senior management’s ability to keep Jonathan Ive happy. And employed by Apple.
Who is Jonathan Ive? He’s Apple’s lead product designer. Also one of the few people on the planet who was well treated by Steve Jobs during Jobs’ tenure at Apple.
Watch what happens with Ive. Everything else is just noise.
Comment by HBB_Rocks
2013-04-22 09:45:09
Ron Johnson did a pretty bang up job driving JC Penny into the ground. He lost $427m in 3 months and about $2b in 2 years, and as a takeaway , he’ll get $1m a year until he dies. Sweet gig if you can get it.
Comment by it's hard out here for a pimp
2013-04-22 10:46:06
Watch what happens with Ive.
I think Ive’s time run out. Apple had a great run with high priced slick gadegts (every 6 months) for almost a decade now. People are really clamoring for contents not new shiny gadgets to get the same old boring contents.
April 22, 2013, 8:24 a.m. EDT Spring economic swoon arrives on time
Forget first-quarter GDP — growth appears to be tapering
By Jeffry Bartash, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. economy just can’t seem to get itself out of the briar patch.
The government is expected to report Friday that the U.S. expanded at a relatively healthy 3% clip in the first three months of 2013 after a paltry 0.4% gain in the fourth quarter. But don’t put too much stock into the mostly backward-looking report on gross domestic product.
The telltale signs of another midyear slowdown are already evident in softer consumer spending, a barely growing manufacturing industry and a slower pace of private-sector hiring. The same seesaw pattern also occurred in 2012 and 2011.
“It’s just like 2012. There will be ups and downs throughout the year,” said Paul Edelstein, director of financial economics at IHS Global Insight. “We’re in an uneven recovery.”
Spring swoon — again
Although GDP will certainly grab the public limelight, Wall Street will pay close attention to weekly jobless claims, orders for big-ticket items and a pair of reports on home sales. Those reports will shed more light on the latest twists and turns in the U.S. economic outlook.
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And worse…with video conferencing and more people to people contact those with good Teeth will get the job first…and its not covered in ohbewannacare.
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Comment by oxide
2013-04-22 12:10:08
Those video conference people really should have throught first before they invented video conferencing. Think of all the people they tossed out of jobs.
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2013-04-22 21:40:03
I have never understood why teeth are not covered by medical insurance, especially now that the connection between unhealthy gums and heart disease is established.
CAT has the same problem many exporters have which is the strong dollar, which was the cause of the weakness in gold prior to the giant manipulation, is killing sales and thus killing the US recovery.
But, its a strong dollar by default isn’t it ??…There is no place else to go….Even Germany is starting to falter…
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 08:11:28
Yes, mostly by default. However, I think the government may have allowed it to increase to cool gasoline prices. If you remember at the beginning of the year we started off with record gasoline prices for the month. The strong dollar drove down both oil and gold, at least in dollar terms. But now, we have the problem of slower growth so they will have to lower the dollar. I think the bear raid on gold might have been a preemptive attack on gold to keep it from rising too high after they dropped the dollar. We have a government running from one manipulation to another to correct problems caused by the previous manipulation.
PS I need to leave and get a haircut, I have a white man’s afro going on. My hair does not grow longer it grows higher.
Comment by goon squad
2013-04-22 10:28:09
White man’s afro?
Is that an attempt to prove to HBB that you’re not a racis? Cus we know you don’t like Obama. And anybody who doesn’t like Obama is racis.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 11:59:34
No, that is an accurate description of my hair. No one that knows me would dispute it. It use to be curly blond when I was young. It became darker as a grew older and even more wild. Think Lyle L. , if I don’t keep it cut.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Treasurys shed early losses Monday after the Chicago Fed released its national activity index showing U.S. growth was below the national trend-line in March.
The index recorded a -0.23 in March, a swing downward from the +0.76 recorded in February. Positive readings indicate above-average activity while negative readings show below-average growth.
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SAN FRANCISCO — The ailing personal computer market is getting weaker, and it’s starting to look as if it will never fully recover as a new generation of mobile devices reshapes the way people use technology.
The latest evidence of the PC’s infirmity emerged Wednesday with the release of two somber reports showing unprecedented declines in sales of desktop and laptop machines during the first three months of the year.
As if that news wasn’t troubling enough, it appears that a pivotal makeover of Microsoft’s ubiquitous Windows operating system seems to have done more harm than good since the software was released last October.
“This is horrific news for PCs,” said BGC Financial analyst Colin Gillis. “It’s all about mobile computing now. We have definitely reached the tipping point.”
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As if that news wasn’t troubling enough, it appears that a pivotal makeover of Microsoft’s ubiquitous Windows operating system seems to have done more harm than good since the software was released last October.
My desktop PC went on the fritz last week. It’s feel much better now, TYVM.
The young man who fixed it, a neighbor with a real talent for bringing dead or wounded computers back to life, said that Windows 8 is a real dud. As in, a dud of Vista-like proportions.
(Reuters) - Lower airfares, cheaper food and rising profit margins are among the benefits that should flow from tumbling oil and commodity prices - but only after a long lead time.
Having poured $400 billion into commodities over the past decade, many investors are now selling. Their confidence that risky assets could only float higher on a rising tide of cheap central bank money has crumbled as the global economy fails to respond to the stimulus.
Even China, an important buyer of natural resources, is slowing. Inflation, against which gold in particular is a classic hedge, is falling nearly everywhere.
Price pressures will ease further if natural resources keep falling. That is bad news for exporters such as Saudi Arabia and Brazil but good news for net importers.
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Gordon G. Chang, Contributor
Op/Ed
4/21/2013 @ 2:16PM |45,346 views Global Banks Are ‘Divorcing’ China
Birds on Kowloon Mosque and HSBC sign
Could HSBC say “zaijian” to China? (Photo credit: Joybot)
HSBC Group is expected in the next few months to sell its 8.0% stake in the Bank of Shanghai. The financial services giant could receive as much as $800 million from its shares in the second-tier Chinese lender.
Why do analysts think HSBC will unload its holding soon? It looks like the Bank of Shanghai is set to raise $2 billion by selling newly issued stock, on the Shanghai and Hong Kong exchanges, with a value of up to 30% of its existing shares. The listing could occur before June, so HSBC will have to act now if it does not want to be trapped by a lock-up period, typically imposed on existing shareholders for periods of up to a year.
Two years ago, nobody thought HSBC would ever dispose of major Chinese assets. Now, there is talk it might get rid of all of them.
Analysts sense a change in sentiment because HSBC is already dumping Chinese assets. This year it completed the sale of its 15.6% interest in Ping An to Thai conglomerate Charoen Pokphand Group for $9.4 billion. Previously, the shares in China’s second-largest life insurance company had been described as “strategic.” Then, there are rumors that the institution, once known as the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, will also sell its half interest in HSBC Life Insurance, which laid off 130 sales staff recently.
The investment community is even talking about a once-unthinkable event, the disposal of HSBC’s 18.7% holding in Bank of Communications. John Bond, when he headed HSBC, wanted to increase the stake in Bocom, as China’s fifth-largest lender is known, and eventually control it. Today, however, HSBC looks like it will never achieve management control.
The dominant view is that HSBC will be content to continue holding its Bocom stake because, as one unnamed Shanghai analyst told the South China Morning Post, a sale would mean “HSBC’s China story will be over.” That analyst may think it is inconceivable that any major bank would ever exit China, but the country is no longer that important to the world’s financial community.
In fact, it looks as if HSBC will have to work hard to find another bank to take its Bank of Shanghai shares. The fact that it could not find a financial institution to buy its Ping An stake is a sign that, in general, foreign bankers are “divorcing” China, as South China Morning Post columnist Doug Young recently put it.
The reason for the unhappiness is clear. HSBC, for instance, sold Ping An because it was unable to get “strategic returns” from the insurance company.
HSBC is not the only institution to feel this way. Analysts think Bank of America (BAC +1.92%) sold the bulk of its remaining China Construction Bank holding in 2011 and Goldman Sachs unloaded another tranche of shares in the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China this January because, like HSBC, they were frustrated that their large stakes weren’t helping them further their China businesses. Chinese banks simply do not believe that they need enduring relations with foreign counterparts, which are now getting impatient.
This is a good time for foreign banks to pull the trigger. For one thing, foreign institutions have been bailing out of China with big profits. HSBC, for example, announced it would record an after-tax gain of $2.6 billion from its disposal of Ping An.
Furthermore, prospects for the Chinese banking sector are not especially bright. Profits at the big banks fell last year, and, as the International Business Times reports, profitability is on a long-term downward trend.
Most important, there are growing concerns that Chinese banks are perched at the edge of a cliff. They have been hiding substantial liabilities through various means, including moving unwanted assets off their books into “wealth management products”—high-yielding investments offered by technically unrelated pools—while nonetheless retaining risk of loss. The China Banking Regulatory Commission, to its credit, issued regulations at the end of last month to force banks to rein in the shadowy products, but as a practical matter the rules only begin to address systemic problems.
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The most famous mainland “ghost city” - Ordos in Inner Mongolia - is a typical example of excessive development often seen across the border. But Ordos is just the tip of the iceberg. New properties left vacant can easily be spotted even in commercial and industrial hubs, including Tianjin, Chongqing, Chengdu and Dongguan.
Mainland property prices are threatening to rise to record highs - but so are vacancy rates at Grade A office buildings.
Analysts say this proves the presence of bubbles in the mainland property market, as the high prices are supported not by demand, but rather by speculative activity.
Tianjin, the third-largest mainland city with a population of more than 14 million, is expected to see vacancy rates at Grade A office buildings go up to as much as 45 percent by next year, global real estate adviser DTZ said.
The east coast city reportedly had a vacancy rate at 16 percent by the end of last year. But that is seen to increase to 45 percent by 2014 - with an additional 300,000 square meters of gross floor area set to become available this year, DTZ estimates.
According to studies by the Centaline Property Research Center in Tianjin, the city recorded 109 office building transactions in February, with total GFA involved dropping 30 percent on-month to 39,800 sq m.
A report from CBRE, the world’s biggest commercial real estate services and investment firm by revenue, says that many Tianjin projects were delayed due to the uncertain economy. But those delayed projects will hit the market together this year, as many as eight of them in the downtown area and offering an estimated 490,000 sq m in additional GFA.
The office leasing market was rather lackluster last year, as some logistics companies either moved out of high-end premises or reduced their leasing areas on capital constraints. But the phenomenon did not set alarm bells ringing for developers.
Office-building supply in Tianjin expanded sharply last year, making stocks balloon.
Despite that, the city’s Binhai New Area, a district hoping to replicate the development seen in Shenzhen and Shanghai’s Pudong, has been turned into a huge construction site, with concrete dust obscuring the horizon.
Office buildings under construction can be seen every few blocks, some of them freshly launched.
But even some completed buildings are seeing very thin traffic flows, as lower-level shop areas are still under construction.
Yan Yi, deputy chair of Tianjin University of Finance and Economics, said the city’s office leasing market now is reaching an equilibrium and any new supply will very likely push up vacancy rates. CBRE said in its report that new projects in the pipeline will have a negative effect on the trend of rising rents, as some developers try to liquidate part of their stock to improve cash flow.
The consultancy forecasts that vacancy rates will keep rising in the next few seasons, while office rent, especially for premises in Binhai New Area, will be under pressure.
The malaise of high vacancy rates has also hit industrial property, with more than 10 factory buildings in the newly developed area left abandoned for more than six months.
A source said the property belongs to a well-known local company called Aiguozhe, which had to abandon the project due to shortage of capital.
Initial plans were to turn the 40,000 sq m Binhai site into a research and development facility with an annual production capacity worth more than 6 billion yuan (HK$7.5 billion). However, intense competition meant products that Aiguozhe planned to make in the facility were already outdated and could not get any market share. So the original plan did not work out, the source said.
Not far from the factory, an office building with the same Aiguozhe characters on its wall has also been vacant for more than a year.
Experts note that the slowing global economy has made many multinational corporations halt China expansion plans, while mainland firms are also slowing down business development for the same reason. This has triggered a drop in demand for office buildings in big cities, they say.
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Comment by Joe the patriotic IRA-stuffing S Corp "job creator"
2013-04-22 08:12:49
And, I should add, I think the advantage of owning rental rowhomes/multi-unit structures will increase over time as energy, water, and insurance become relatively more expensive.
Also, as the population ages and families with working parents continue to get smaller (less kids), there will be relatively more people looking to dump SFHs and more people open to attached product.
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Comment by Ethan in Norfolk
2013-04-22 11:01:11
When I look at rentals in the DC area, I cringe at all these 3-4 story townhome things. Seems like such a pain to move into/out of as a renter.
I think we need to face the fact that this is broader than a few nuts. It is 40 to 50% of the Muslims that have gone nuts. Bomb the Saudis, no. Pressure them to close their Islamic nut schools throughout the world, yes.
No need to bomb. I would just lay cable across the muslim countries and provide free America-style cable to those nations. Including Playboy Channel.
All the restless youths would have something else to do.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-22 12:22:51
I don’t think that is such a bad idea if not practical. I really do think we need to have something like a radio free Europe with the Islamic nations. In many ways they are like North Korea, they only hear one side of the story. But you know our information flow gets more and more restricted everyday even with our access to the Internet. BTW, that link about the Saudi seems to have disappeared. Fox has been legitimately criticized for years for its coverage or lack there of about SA primarily due to investors in the company.
I guess if you can’t refute the evidence you can engage in an ad hominem attack. There is more than enough evidence to hold the Saudi for an investigation. I object to putting him on a plane back to SA without the investigation. I think that is reasonable. If you do not you should refute my posts and the evidence but since you can’t you engage in the cheap shots.
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Comment by goon squad
2013-04-22 15:13:30
Dannyboy, when you pimp the FEAR it only fuels the Homeland Security Fear Industrial Complex, feeding into exactly what Bloomberg, Feinstein, Cuomo want, a scared and bewildered populace cowered into believing that only the watchful eyes of Aunt Janet can save them.
Since I didn’t get the data up until late last night, here is a REPOST from yesterday’s thread about the median home price being up 8% in CA:
The lack of inventory at the low end doesn’t help (COULD be a byproduct of less distress generally moving through the market…total distressed sales in February 2013 were at 33%, down from 53% the year earlier…don’t know if it went down from Feb to March).
However, seasonality is the big culprit. February is usually the annual low in median, so an increase in March is expected.
In fact, here’s some news you can use from analyzing the data from Zillow.
From 1997 to 2012 (16 full years of data that they share), the increase in median from February to March was:
The highest monthly increase 4 of 16 years;
2nd highest monthly increase 7 of 16 years;
3rd highest monthly increase 3 of 16 years;
That would be 14 of 16 years where the February to March change in median was either the highest, second highest, or third highest such monthly change for the year.
The worst showing for March was 6th highest.
And where do we go from here? All indications would point to a strong showing for April too.
April had:
The highest MoM median change in 8 of 16 years;
The 2nd highest in 2 of 16;
The 3rd highest in 2 of 16;
The 4th highest in 4 of 16;
May becomes less predictable, but usually still pretty strong…with 10 of 16 years in the top 4 monthly median changes.
If you measure a rolling 3 month change, you find that March-May is the strongest three month period in terms of changing median prices in 10 of 16 years, and second highest in 5 of 16 years.
In fact, the seasonality in median is so strong for these three months that it masked the collapse in home prices in 2008, where the median only fell by 0.1% during these three months that year.
Every other year (including 2009 and 2010), the median increased the three months ending May.
Yes, the change in median from March to May will look strong.
It does NOT mean that these three months are an indicator of what happens to the median for the whole year.
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“Home sales slipped slightly in March, according to the latest reading from the National Association of Realtors, but were at much stronger levels than a year ago.
The Realtors’ report on the sale of previously owned homes Monday showed the annual sales rate in March came in at 492,000, down 0.6% from February, but up 10.3% from a year ago. “
I really really want to buy a $500,000 starter home in Sacramento but the mean old banker said my $12/hour call center job won’t qualify me for a mortgage. Life’s not fair!
Funny article about my ‘hood and generally what happens when a formerly sleepy area becomes gentrified. (Short version: more young people and more bars/pubs = conflict between oldsters and youngsters. The older people launched a website to post pictures of people they find pissing in alleys, for example.) A+ for the title of the article as well.
“Cantonites are seeing yellowWritten by The Baltimore Guide on April 17, 2013 in Featured, Neighborhood News - 3 Comments Excessive imbibers, big drinkers with small bladders, and public urinators of all stripes be advised—somebody’s watching you, and it’s not a pretty sight.
Last month, a few Canton residents, fed up with people peeing in their flower pots, on their walls, and on their cars, launched Yougotcaughtpissing.com, a Web site devoted to shaming public urinators and drawing attention to the problem of peeing in public places.
The group members, who prefer to remain anonymous, characterize themselves as a grassroots movement that wants to take their community back from, well, the pee-ers.
The videos on Yougotcaughtpissing.com are recorded and posted by contributors from all over the city.
Recent videos from Opening Day show exhibistionic Os fans relieving themselves in front of a crowd at the ball park—and a young woman emptying her bladder in the stands.
Yougotcaughtpissing.com’s founders feel that public urination in Baltimore is a serious problem, and one not taken seriously by the city government.
“On May 6, a meeting is planned at Du Burns Arena titled ‘Addressing the trash problem in Canton,’ while the epidemic of public urination is largely ignored,” writes Yougotcaughtpissing.com’s spokesman.”
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-22 08:46:59
Oops, forgot to change my name when posted = selfpwned.
I admit posting a few times as Jingle Male above. I am not *the* Jingle Male, I was just channeling him today when I read that ridiculous article about YoY sales being up.
The article about the neighborhood and the “caught pissing” website is about my neighborhood, not Jingle’s.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-22 13:08:43
Oh please, I was trying to chum the waters for RAL today. Unfortunately it appears he hasn’t come to take a bite yet.
As far as me using anyone else’s name at other times, if you care enough do a search, but it’s not something I generally do. When I read that article about YoY sales being up, I couldn’t resist using it as RAL bait.
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Comment by Resistor
2013-04-22 18:43:21
RAL is old school, since from the days of David Lereah and Bubble 1.0, the OG bubble.
I always had to snicker at “I touch myself”, although it did have catchy tune. “All the boys in town” was a great song though, and an early MTV fave of mine.
If you want to understand why the government and central bank have the real estate-related policies they do, simply take a quick glance at the following chart:
Of all the discussion on the subject, only Goodwin, and only in passing, made the observation of the power that special interests have in the federal government. It really does seem like they’re doing their best to avoid noticing the emperor’s new clothes.
Browse the “Cabela” website sometime. Lots of old big money companies in camping, fishing, hunting, etc., so don’t expect “slash-n-burn” gun laws during a downturn of this magnitude. That Sandy Hook mom was receiving $9k/month in alimony, so no excuse for not keeping her weapons locked away in a gun safe. Nobody is forced to walk to work because an alcoholic used an automobile to kill innocent victims.
Everything with a dollar-denominated price rallied like crazy today — even Bitcoin!
“What’s Going On Here?” indeed!
Bitcoins back above $120 as wild swings continue
April 22, 2013, 12:18 PM
Bitcoin prices have rebounded from a sharp downturn earlier this month, and are back above $120, notes Nicholas Colas at ConvergEx.
The electronic currency, which Colas calls “the Esperanto of money,” saw its prices surge as high as $260 earlier this month, before plunging to around $60 over a period of 6 days, he notes.
“Investing in bitcoin has been a white-knuckle ride so far, and nothing in its near future points to a different trajectory,” Colas said. However the currency is beginning to attract the attention of venture capitalists raising some interesting possibilities.
VCs will have three ways to profit, according to Colas: exchanges, service offerings for individuals, and service offerings for businesses.
In the end, the venture funds “must address the security issues of the system first, and then work on making bitcoin a relevant currency for global financial transactions.”
But the entire experiment, which can still end in disaster for investors continues to illustrate some startling truths including that “Trust in technology can trump belief in government institutions, even in notionally free societies.”
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
Steve Watson
April 22, 2013
The video, shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of their own home. They are then ordered to run down the street to be further frisked by police as scores of armed militarized cops look on.
The story floated in the mainstream media that the door to door searches were conducted with the voluntary consent of the residents of Watertown is clearly false. 9000+ Police locked down an entire city and went in with full force, with armored vehicles and combat gear, all to search for an injured 19 year old kid who turned out to be cowering in someone’s back yard.
The events in Boston last week were a trial balloon. The statists are quite pleased that the capture of the 19yo bomber was met with cheers of “USA! USA!” despite the suspension of the 4th Amendment.
WARREN OHIO: A teenager who wore a T-shirt with “killer” scrawled across it and gestured obscenely at his sentencing has appealed his life prison term for killing three students in a school cafeteria.
The court-appointed attorney for T.J. Lane, 18, filed the appeal Thursday with the 11th Ohio District Court of Appeals challenging his sentence handed down in Chardon last month. The brief filing also cited the decision moving his case to adult court.
Lane was 17 at the time of the shooting rampage in February 2012.
I loved the last line of that article - “This is what fully fledged martial law in America looks like.” Fully fledged martial law in America is confined to one town and lasts less than 24 hours. Somehow I thought it would be worse than that.
Present-day Federal Reserve Notes are not backed by convertibility to any specific commodity, but only by the legal requirement that they are issued against collateral.
Sales of existing homes unexpectedly fell 0.6% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.92 million in March, the National Association of Realtors reported Monday. Analysts had been expecting an increase of 5.03 million homes. February existing home sales were revised down to 4.95 million from an original estimate of 4.98 million.
The numbers in March continue to point to a healthy housing recovery: existing home sales are up 10.3% compared to a year ago and the median home price in March ($184,300) is nearly 12% higher than it was in March 2012. Last month also marks the largest year-over-year price growth since November 2005.
Related: Toll Brothers CEO: ‘Housing Recovery Is the Real Deal This Time’
David Rosenberg, chief economist and strategist at Gluskin Sheff, says growth in the housing market could be slowing. He notes that first-time buyers are still hesitant about taking on mortgage debt and their absence from the market is the “missing link” in the recovery.
“Most of this recovery in the housing sector is probably behind us,” Rosenberg tells The Daily Ticker. Sales will “probably level off for the next several months” which is not “the worst thing in the world.”
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First-time buyers accounted for 30% of existing home sale purchases in March versus 33% just one year ago. Even with mortgage rates sitting at historical lows – the 30-year fixed rate was 3.57% in March – potential new buyers are choosing to sit on the sidelines as institutional investors and hedge funds briskly snap up available properties.
With apologies to Office Space:
And now, a word from the president!
Damn it feels good to be a banksta
Gettin voted into the white house
Everything lookin good to the people of the world
But the mafia family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin’ down
Like lettin’ a big drug shipment through
And send ‘em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin’ me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or I’ll send a million troops to die at war
To all you republicans, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
’cause now I got the world swingin’ from my nvts
And damn it feels good to be a banksta
Another day, another foiled attempted terrorist attack on North American soil…
Police: 2 Arrested in Al-Qaida Linked Canada Plot
VIDEO: Criminal investigation reveals plot targeting Toronto railway.
Canadian Officials Stop Terror Plot
By CHARMAINE NORONHA and ROB GILLIES Associated Press
TORONTO April 22, 2013 (AP)
Two men were arrested and charged with plotting a terrorist attack against a Canadian passenger train with support from al-Qaida elements in Iran, police said Monday. The case bolstered allegations by some governments and experts of a relationship of convenience between Shiite-led Iran and the predominantly Sunni Arab terrorist network.
Chiheb Esseghaier, 30, and Raed Jaser, 35, had “direction and guidance” from al-Qaida members in Iran, though there was no reason to think the planned attacks were state-sponsored, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Assistant Commissioner James Malizia said. Police said the men did not get financial support from al-Qaida, but declined to provide more details.
“This is the first known al-Qaida planned attack that we’ve experienced in Canada,” Superintendent Doug Best told a news conference. Officials in Washington and Toronto said it had no connections to last week’s bombings at the Boston Marathon finish line.
The arrests in Montreal and Toronto raised questions about Iran’s murky relationship with the terrorist network. Bruce Riedel, a CIA veteran who is now a Brookings Institution senior fellow, said al-Qaida has had a clandestine presence in Iran since at least 2001 and that neither the terror group nor Tehran speak openly about it.
“The Iranian regime kept some of these elements under house arrest,” he said in an email to The Associated Press. “Some probably operate covertly. AQ members often transit Iran traveling between hideouts in Pakistan and Iraq.”
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BANGKOK – The price of oil fell Tuesday after a slowdown in China’s manufacturing added to the outlook for subdued demand.
Benchmark oil for June delivery was down 60 cents to $88.59 per barrel at midday Bangkok time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The expired contract for May rose 75 cents to finish at $88.76 a barrel on Monday.
HSBC Corp. said Tuesday the preliminary version of its monthly purchasing managers’ index declined to a worse-than-expected 50.5 in April from March’s 51.6 on a 100-point scale. Readings above 50 indicate expansion.
“It’s another piece in the jigsaw that adds to the potential scenario of moderating growth in China, and the manufacturing sector in particular, and is probably driving things a bit lower at the moment,” said Ric Spooner of CMC Markets in Sydney.
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China’s manufacturing is expanding at a slower pace this month on weakness in global and domestic demand, fueling concern that the world’s second-biggest economy is faltering.
The preliminary reading of 50.5 for a Purchasing Managers’ Index (EC11CHPM) released by HSBC Holdings Plc and Markit Economics compared with a final 51.6 for March. The number was also below the median 51.5 estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 11 analysts. A reading above 50 indicates expansion.
China’s stocks slumped as the data added to an unexpected slowdown in economic growth, reported last week, that prompted banks including Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to cut full-year forecasts. In Washington, central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan said April 20 that a 7.7 percent first-quarter expansion was reasonable and “normal,” highlighting reduced expectations after 10 percent-plus rates during the past decade.
“This paints a picture of a continued painfully slow recovery for China’s manufacturing sector,” said Yao Wei, a Societe Generale SA economist based in Hong Kong. “The government needs to help translate the easy liquidity conditions into real growth.”
President Xi Jinping’s officials are grappling with constraints on export demand, property-market overheating, the risks associated with a surge in so-called shadow banking, and weakness in consumption because of a campaign to rein in official perks such as spending on banquets.
The Shanghai Composite Index fell 2 percent as of 11:24 a.m. local time.
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Previously owned U.S. home sales unexpectedly dropped in March as a lean supply of properties kept the industry from generating a stronger recovery.
Purchases (ETSLTOTL) of existing houses, tabulated when a contract closes, fell 0.6 percent to a 4.92 million annual rate, figures from the National Association of Realtors showed today in Washington. The median forecast of 75 economists surveyed by Bloomberg projected sales would increase to a 5 million rate.
A decline in the availability of distressed homes and still-tight access to credit are holding back buyers, impeding progress in a real-estate market that’s been a source of strength for the economy. Bigger gains may emerge when rising property values encourage more Americans to put their properties on the market.
“Despite some little turbulence, the residential housing market is still improving,” said Christophe Barraud, an economist at Market Securities-Kyte Group in Paris, who correctly forecast the rate of purchases. “We’re in a transition mode where distressed sales are falling and conventional sales are growing, which means stagnation in total home sales. This situation is not problematic because it shows the market is returning to normal.”
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“We’re in a transition mode where distressed sales are falling and conventional sales are growing, which means stagnation in total home sales. This situation is not problematic because it shows the market is returning to normal.”
Wait, I thought we were headed until full parabolic momentum play?
(Reuters) - Asian shares and other more risky assets fell back on Tuesday while the yen rose broadly after the HSBC “flash” PMI reading showed manufacturing growth in China slowed in April, underscoring market concerns about global growth prospects.
The preliminary or “flash” HSBC Purchasing Managers’ Index for April fell to 50.5 in April from 51.6 in March. It was still stronger than February’s reading of 50.4 but a contraction in new export orders pointed to fragile global demand.
The HSBC report was China’s first economic indicator for the second quarter and followed weaker-than-expected growth in first-quarter gross domestic product reported earlier this month, which triggered a sharp market sell-off last week.
“No doubt the market was hoping for a PMI reading closer to 51.5 and while the 50.5 result today is not disastrous, it does reinforce market concerns about the state of growth in the Chinese economy at the moment,” said Tim Waterer, senior trader at CMC Markets in Sydney.
“I am not surprised at the downward reaction by risk assets … Because a lot of the market rally so far in 2013 has been premised on a strong Chinese economic recovery, this takes away some of that buying enthusiasm.”
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Europe at wit’s end over austerity?
Financial Times
By Peter Spiegel and Peter Ehrlich
updated 11:12 PM EDT, Mon April 22, 2013
The Euro logo is seen in front of the European Central bank ECB in Frankfurt/Main, Germany, on April 4, 2013.
(Financial Times) — Europe may have hit the political limits of how far it can go with austerity-led economic policies because of the growing opposition in the eurozone’s recession-hit periphery, the European Commission’s president said on Monday.
José Manuel Barroso said that while he still believed in the need for sweeping economic reforms and drastic cuts in budget deficits, such policies needed to have “acceptance, politically and socially”, which was now at risk.
“While this policy is fundamentally right, I think it has reached its limits in many aspects,” Mr Barroso said. “A policy to be successful not only has to be properly designed. It has to have the minimum of political and social support.”
Mr Barroso’s comments come as advocates of the eurozone’s austerity-led crisis response are on the defensive following a voter revolt in Italy, a deepening recession in much of the bloc and the tarnishing of a highly-influential academic treatise arguing high government debt severely hinders economic growth.
Mr Barroso’s views are particularly influential because the commission has sweeping new powers to rule on whether struggling eurozone countries are able to ease up on belt-tightening.
His remarks came the same day Eurostat released data showing debt in many struggling eurozone countries continues to rocket despite unprecedented budget cuts and tax increases.
Of the four eurozone countries receiving rescue aid from the EU last year, only Greece saw its debt levels decrease, from 170 per cent of economic output in 2011 to 157 per cent — still the highest in the EU.
Irish, Spanish and Portuguese debt levels all hit euro-era highs last year, with Portugal close to surpassing Italy as the second most indebted nation in the eurozone. Lisbon’s debt jumped to 124 per cent of gross domestic product from 108 per cent, narrowly behind Rome’s, which rose from 121 per cent to 127 per cent. Overall, eurozone sovereign debt rose to 90.6 per cent of GDP last year, the highest on record.
The report also highlighted the periphery’s divergence from the eurozone’s core, particularly Germany, which was the only EU country to post a budget surplus in 2012 but also saw its debt level remain flat for the third straight year.
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As some of you may remember, my company went through some lay offs at the beginning of the year. My group lost about 45% of all engineering resources; the workload for the group stayed the same.
Upper management has realized deadlines will not be met with the current staff, so they have decided to offer last-minute interns to fill gaps! Fired a senior engineer? No problem! You get an intern to so his job! Do y’all wanna know what’s even worse? After interviewing a couple of people, management has come back and said the applicants not experienced enough!
What kind of engineers? What “neighborhood” were the salaries of these folks? Just curious.
“What kind of engineers?”
How about H-1B slumdog Raj “Steve” Bombachi?
Maybe you can poach them for your coolie engineering operation
Surprising, most were white males with over 15 years of experience… I guess they were becoming too expensive
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
You thought you were exempt because your not some rinky-dink liberal arts major.
Guess again.
And a very happy Monday to you too, MacBeth.
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
There does seem to be a separation in the engineer world between the big company “Dilbert” world of engineers as a commodity and the small company world of “we need somebody who can solve all these problems and meet with the customer TODAY”. You are quite correct regarding the first category, but the second seems highly resistant to outsourcing.
Let me tell you something ’bout engineering, McBeth, do you think those laid off engineers are twiddling their thumbs somewhere waiting for the phone to ring with a job offer, i don’t think so. They are probably hacking out code or building the next google glass down in their basement and having a bla st. Getting relieved of a mindless dead end assignment was probably the best thing that happened to them. For most engineers its not a 8-5 job, but a lifestyle, if they wanted to make money they would have had better luck doing analytics and going to wall street, but they choose to build stuff that makes life a little easier and enjoyable for the rest of us. know where the next google, apple etc is coming from.. its an ex-googler or an ex-appler who decided to leave the mothership and start his own.
As far as comparing salaries to those in chindia, well they are pretty nice if you are living in chindia, and i know a few who wouldn’t think twice about taking a 1 way ticket overseas for a juicy assignment. Keep up the divisive attitude and erode the civil society that took 200+ years to build here and i’m sure another location on God’s green earth will gladly except the talent from here. And don’t cry me a river when we have to get H-1Bs to work over there
I believe it was someone on this board who said “never confuse tactics (BS) with strategy (BA).”
For every entrepreneurial engineer there are 100 who aren’t. Plus you need some scratch to start a business in the basement, which isn’t that easy. There’s a reason Google Glass, the Google self driving car, etc., are being developed by big companies like Google: it takes a lot of resources. Most of the start ups I’ve worked at weren’t all that innovative. The typical story for most was that the founder had some domain knowledge for an industry and was focusing on a niche within it.
Welcome to the Lucky Ducky world, all you engineers out there.
This will continue until your salaries more closely match those of engineers in Asia.
It really doesn’t matter that you’re smart, either.
You thought you were exempt because your not some rinky-dink liberal arts major.
Guess again.
MacBeth is quite right. STEMs will still be better off than lib arts majors, but the handwriting is on the wall.
It’s interesting how things here are getting “divisive” now that they affect your livelihood, in addition to tens of millions of others.
Discovering that they are not “above it all” is both dismaying and disturbing.
Do the math. The disintegration of the esteemed and well-paid engineering/IT world is predictable. As both industries’ contribution to the economy ebbs, so will the pay.
The ROI of both industries is in decline, apparently rather rapidly. The biggest gain both offered was in productivity and cost. Now that productivity is high - and low cost in both investment and salaries - your value is less.
You aren’t worth what you used to be. Get it? Welcome to Lucky Ducky world - now it’s you that will have fewer opportunities and less real income.
(Goon, when you type in your common “Lucky Ducky” phraseology, remember to include engineers and IT people in your thought process. Feels different when it hits YOUR home, doesn’t it?)
Math doesn’t prefer a mathematician over anyone else.
Bill in LA realized this a long time ago, and acted in ways that benefit him. He’s smart.
There aren’t that many engineers building things on their own. Only some are motivated enough to do that. Some of them can talk to people and are outgoing, others have rough personalities.
STEM is huge in the lower schools though — not sure what industries they’re trying to feed with that.
Bill stumbled into a niche (work that requires a security clearance) when nobody with a couple of extra brain cells wanted to do it. He can pretend to all the rest of you that his employment is secure because he is willing to move at the drop of a hat. He is wrong. It was getting the security clearance when everyone wanted to go work for Apple and Microsoft and learn about the guts of the machine, not do boring applications work that killed people and required you to report to a government keeper when you started dating someone.
Bill knows his job is not secure and has stated so several times, Polly. Don’t put words in his mouth.
Now, let’s talk about your job. It is secure? Why? What ROI do you yourself bring into the economy?
I do want to know. Your worth to the overall economy probably isn’t tracked. It should be.
Uncle Fed, WWYLM, chiming in here.
MacBeth: Polly is a tax lawyer for the IRS. She has already made it into management. Yes, her job is secure. Yes, her ROI on the economy is being tracked. Polly is a tracked person.
Bill in LA definitely makes extra money in exchange for being a gubbmint contractor. Once you’re in, you’re in. The gubbmint has a love affair with people who have been working in gubbmint their whole lives. It’s hard to get into the gubbmint if you already have corporate experience. Old gubbmint workers have a sweet deal, but Polly has inside information about gubbmint finances. That’s probably why she said something about Bill’s career being less stable than he thinks.
Working for the war machine is as stable as it gets.
Each “terror” attack is an excuse for more funding.
I know what Polly does for a living. I’d like to know what value (i.e., profit) she represents to the economy. My guess is that she’s a net loss.
Bill also works for the government. He is not private sector, either. That we know. I’d also like to know what value (i.e., profit) he represents to the economy. My guess is that he, too, is a net loss.
I sincerely doubt that Polly’s efforts represent a net loss to the national economy.
I hope not, ahansen. I really do. I hope so for my own selfish reasons, as well as for Polly’s well being (presumably).
It’s clear that Polly works hard and is quite deligent. She also makes it a point to keep herself up-to-date.
I am happy to have my tax dollars go towards paying Polly. She seems like a person who we want working for us.
Management at your company is retarded. If you own stock in it, sell it!
This unfortunately not at all an uncommon situation. It is all about stock price and meeting the numbers now.
Sure, it helps meet the numbers for 1 or 2 quarters, but it does signal long term problems for the company. If you have a vision, you don’t dump employees on a seemingly random basis, you refocus them.
That is very true… And it’s now just my company; I think it’s a pattern across the board.
Meeting expectations is the #1 priority
“If you have a vision, you don’t dump employees on a seemingly random basis, you refocus them…”
I love this. What if government makes your vision pointless to execute? What if you’ve already invested years of time and money into something that now is pointless due to government interference?
What then? Refocus?
Has it occurred to you that “sequester” may be the result of an inept government?
It’s occurred to me. If Washington was as smart as it thinks it is, “sequester” wouldn’t be necessary.
Not that “sequester” really amounts to much.
“Meeting expectations” is the result of a world awash in data.
The trick of course is to determine what 10% of data has any value…and then know what to do with it.
Our over-reliance on data is an albatross. Data is becoming as counter to productivity and salary as government interference already is.
Stuff that one in your pipe for a while and think about it.
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“…The trick of course is to determine what 10% of data has any value…and then know what to do with it….”
Bravo, Mac. Spoken like a true dictator. (And I mean that in the very best sense of the word, honestly.)
I’d add, “and how an infinite number of random variables have skewed them before you even put them into action.”
Maybe the real trick is simply to implement a (considered) course and deal with the outliers as they come along. The data are merely our excuse to take the leap (and cover our six).
And you’re right about its tyranny.
Welcome to the Data-Driven world.
Everything is data and everything is number-crunched.
For decades now, engineers and IT folks have been busy designing and building things that toss others out of their jobs wholesale. Destroyed all sorts of professions.
All of which was just dandy…until now, when your own livelihood and future are on the line.
You should’ve thought about that. You didn’t. Now it’s biting you in the hindquarters. Too bad for you.
Engineers here are worth what engineers are worth there.
Get used to it.
Never fear…it’ll happen to lawyers, too. Well, at least to private-sector lawyers.
Lawyers, doctors, and accountants are next up after the engineering/programmer types get done gutting themselves.
There will always be a need for knowlegable MD, LLD, CPA, MBA overlords to operate the robots. Preferably one with all four degrees.
Better get crackin’ joe.
Kudos on the reddit AMA the other day
All correct, Joe. Those professions are next.
Morfe in line with Ben’s intent of this board is a housing question that’s been on my mind frequently as of late.
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses? I realize they’ve been essentially outlawed in our over-zoned world. It doesn’t mean the need doesn’t exist. (Three of my eight great-grandparents owned and operated them).
That need is here…and growing rapidly.
Macbeth…..Enter the McMansions….5 bedrooms cake decorating room, gift room 4 car garage….
All made for such a situation now to get the government and the HOA’s out of the way
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses?
They still exist, MacBeth.
Some of those renters get a Section 8.
Some of them live in rooms in Extended Stay America hotels.
The low-end of poor lives in dilapidated old 50’s-60’s-70’s style motels which line the older highways.
I think lawyers are relatively insulated because http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/
Section 8 has nothing to do with the old-fashioned boardinghouses of 1900.
What I am referring to are boardinghouses run by the private sector and lived in by those earning a paycheck.
New grads with legal degrees can’t fund jobs, temp legal workers is the new growth industry.
What ever happened to old-fashioned boardinghouses?
We call them SROs here. Single room occupancy. Bedbug central.
Evidently you missed the rest of the post.
..Section 8 housing is run by private sector.
..Old motels are run by small-time private sector.
..Larger extended stay places are run by medium-sized private sector.
And I don’t know if you know this, but Section 8 still makes a paycheck, as do those who live in the motels. They just don’t make enough to afford rent.
[I once saw a snippet on PBS about a single middle-aged man who worked as a security guard in San Francisco. All he could afford was a ~$500/month room in a run-down hotel.]
Thanks, ethan. It’s currently #9 all-time top AMA on Reddit, nestled cozily (and perhaps appropriately) between Arnold and Jeopardy whiz, Ken Jennings.
Amazing thing, this interweb. (Got several HBB shout-outs during the convo, btw; we cranks are EVERYWHERE.)
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/top/?sort=top&t=all
I know what you mean. Directs put up with so much BS at the client site I work at only because they are entrenched with mortgages, spouses, kids, car payments. They are glued to L.A. More specifically the South Bay part of L.A.
Someday the tables will turn and there will be a major shortage of skilled engineers. The pay will go up. Everything is cyclic. There will be lots of overtime. I hear that this stuff is underway on the commercial side now in IT. I do not have the evidence, only that a yes man (recruiter) told me.
“If you own stock in it, sell it!”
Or short it.
Dude is right, Bill, this is VERY common.
Do you not own any stocks, Bill?
Mostly in stock index funds. I’m not against stocks. I’m against stocks in companies with retarded management. The companies won’t be in business much longer (unless they are subsidized by J Q Public). Sometimes have five different individual stocks. Now down to 2.
Have to agree on selling the stock.
I guess your company will get on the news and complain that “there aren’t workers to fill these jobs.” I want to see one reporter, JUST ONE reporter, ask: “Then why don’t you offer more pay? If you pay enough, you can get anyone to move from anywhere in the country to do the job. After all, your vaunted free market applies to the labor market too.”
We asked this to Overtaxed about a month ago (he hires engineers and has had a problem finding them at the price he wants to pay). It’s also not just the amount paid, it’s all the other things the companies want you to do. If you want someone to live and breathe your company 24/7 and be a competent representative with clients, you can’t pay an entry level wage or pay the same as someone could get with a random consulting gig.
He also has trouble hiring them because he admitted it was a dead end job. He wants people with lots of technical skills and qualifications who are willing to never use them again because he just needs them to have it for “legitimacy” but not to actually use the skills. That is a prime reason not to take a job even before you get to the outrageous travel schedule.
No argument here. But the point I make over and over is the free market will work for workers without massive governmental intervention if we just do one thing: limit immigration. But if you do not limit immigration, employers can cut wages, cut health benefits, and cut retirement and then leave it to government to meet health needs and ensure a living wage SNAP, EUC etc., due to the surplus of workers.
And tariff imported manufactured goods from countries that do not respect basic human rights.
And do not have minimum enforced environmental standards. China does not meet this standard if anyone wonders.
You are right Dan. If Chinese people had the ability to choose representatives from more than one party, they would probably have those regulations. I know they don’t want to live in a poisonous environment.
China burns almost 4 billion tons of coal per year. It does not use scrubbers on its coal plants even though some plants are equipped with them but the operators do not want the extra costs of running them. The amount of so2 it puts in the atmosphere is incredible. The coal China burns is filled with arsenic and mercury, most coal has a least trace amounts, but the coal it uses would not be allowed to be burned in the US. Despite this, think how rare it is to see an article on how China is messing up the world’s environment not just its own. The entire focus seems to be on co2 emissions from the developed world. Despite so2 emissions being the cause of acidification of bodies of water you would think that only c02 emissions cause acidification. A tax on traditional pollutants or a tariff on good produced in a dirty manner would increase employment in this country and decrease both our trade and tax deficits. Instead we want to impose additional burdens on our factories for producing c02 emissions. Seems like the environmental movement is being used by the globalists, instead of the movement dealing with the real environmental problem the world faces. We do not have to wait for democracy to come to China to clean up the environment. We need to treat real polluting countries like we treated South Africa in the 1980’s.
We need to substitute tariffs for taxes, period. Clinton signed in NAFTA and locked in the mechanism to make it far less possible to return to tariffs. The agreements are against tariffs to fund governments, so they turn on their own people. Seems most countries violate NAFTA, but not the U.S.
” so2 “
Interesting. I read of a plan to pump SO2 into the upper atmosphere to combat global warming. It might have been one of the Freakonomics books.
PRC is party to and has ratified the Kyoto Protocol. The United States has not.
I highly recommend Peter Capelli’s book, Why Good People Can’t Get Jobs. It cuts through the current job market BS like a hot knife through butter.
With regards from your HBB Librarian…
Of all the people on this board, you might have the clearest fix on what is going on “out there”, Slim.
You are among the several Lucky Duckies on this board, and appear to be grinding it out on a daily basis.
I’ll go find that book.
IMO, what you say regarding jobs has much more cache than what the “I live where I live because it fits my lifestyle” folks have to say.
WTF is wrong with you today?
Nothing. And you?
I predicted this.
I also talked you down off the ledge about buying a house in Austin to “save” a hundred bucks (or so) per month compared to rent.
*gives self pat on back*
Still renting
Renting is always better. Always.
It wasn’t just you talking Brett off the homebuying ledge, Joe. I think we all did. But Brett had a lot of capacity to decrease his rent. His high rent wasn’t due to high rents in general; it was because he wanted to live “hip” in downtown. IIRC, even a five-mile commute in any direction cut the rent 30-40%, which shifted the rent/buy equation in favor of renting, at least in the short term. Which it looks like it’s going to be, if this company keeps cutting employees to hit the numbers.
(I think Brett ended up renting a near-downtown condo from an FB, which IMO was a good compromise.)
I’m still living downtown, but it’s a slightly older unit without granite, concierge or an infinity pool
Geez, you had more capacity to cut rent than I thought.
My highest priority was location; the issue is that most units downtown are pretty new and offer ‘luxury’ finishes. Not many ‘affordable’ options
No granite? The horrors!
I can barely breath sometimes when I have to carrying own packages to my place! It was nice having a concierge do it for you and someone to pick up your trash daily
So are you predicting the same thing will happen in Washington DC?
And Ohbewanna the labors friend is allowing for profit companies to bypass labor laws and “hire” interns for free…
But wait….If you are Illegals in a sweatshop…the employer gets fined/jailed you get back wages and free lawyers….they raided a small factory just 10 blocks from here…and yup they got paid…
These interns get paid pretty well ($22.5/hour, which is much less than what a FT engineer makes)
At least they pay them. As for blaming Obama for unpaid interns, they have been around for a long time.
True Colorado but Under Ohbewanna its become a very acceptable practice…I had far more paying jobs under Bush…
Assuming that your experience is still even remotely relevant, dj, the reason you can’t get a job is because there are fewer jobs and you refuse to learn how to apply for them. You used to be able to get a job by walking in the front door and applying in person. You can’t anymore. So stop blaming the president and learn how to work the new application process.
If $22.50 per hour is “pretty well” paid, what exactly constitutes a well-paying job? Is $15 per hour good? What about $18 per hour? What are “good jobs?” I am really curious.
Upper management has realized deadlines will not be met with the current staff, so they have decided to offer last-minute interns to fill gaps! Fired a senior engineer? No problem! You get an intern to so his job! Do y’all wanna know what’s even worse? After interviewing a couple of people, management has come back and said the applicants not experienced enough!
LOL! That’s Dilbert pointy haired boss material. Interns not experienced enough? That is hilarious. Are they also unpaid interns, or do they get a “stipend”?
Anybody who has worked with a summer intern knows that not only are they less productive than an experienced employee, but they reduce the amount of work that the experienced, supervising employee can produce.
I suspect Brett’s employer will find that the deadlines will be harder to reach with the interns than if they hired nobody.
Welcome to the last 35 years.
+1 eco.
The aerospace layoffs of the mid-to-late 1960’s wrecked such carnage that it took a generation to recover. Their kids landed those 90K-a-year- just-out-of-college IT jobs and were just getting used to their cushy expectations when employers realized that the world was full of computer geeks who would be glad to work for ten cents on the dollar.
Unless you hold the patent, your smarts are largely self-defeating.
Another round of areospace layoffs in the early nineties caused a mini housing crash in CA. Or at least both things happened at the same time which was very bad timming for me.
live and learn
Our diversified GS fixer has been talking about this for a long time: how management tries to shift to cheaper labor only to find that in the end, cheaper labor is more expensive.
That’s right eco. A lot of new-grad engineers don’t realize that their salaries are going to stagnate for the rest of their lives. The older engineers do not make very much more than the newbies.
My group lost about 45% of all engineering resources; the workload for the group stayed the same. ‘
Someone moved the cheese ( stupid book I had to read here at work I wonder why ? )
Often investors like to see how much a company spends on R&D. For any long term investment, if they still do long term investing anymore?
We are hiring like crazy in China or trying too anyway way cheaper. Once I get laid off from Engineering I plan to make money flipping homes hahahaha ( a joke for some of the humor impeded )
Simpson Mazzoli was approved in the United States Senate on September 19, 1985 by a vote of 69-30, when the GOP held the majority in that chamber 53-47. And yes the filibuster rules existed then.
For those interested, Simpson and Mazzoli published a VERY good op-ed in 2006 reflecting on their 1986 immigration bill:
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/14/AR2006091401179.html
“We quickly realized that if immigration reform was to work and be fair it had to be a “three-legged stool.” If one leg failed, so would the entire bill.
Leg one was improved security against illegal crossings at the border with Mexico…Leg two was the H-2A temporary worker program for agricultural workers… Leg three was what we called “legalization.” We would allow some, but not all, undocumented aliens then living and working here to regularize their unlawful status and begin the long process to earn temporary residency…
Although we do have pride of authorship, we also believe that the shortcomings of the act are not due to design failure but rather to the failure of both Democratic and Republican administrations since 1986 to execute the law properly.
After two decades, the system is still not in place. Unfortunately, what is in place is the use of several different identifiers, which were meant to be temporary, and a flourishing underground economy engaged in creating fraudulent documents for illegal immigrants.
All administrations since 1986 have allocated funding and personnel resources more generously to the task of securing the border than to enforcing IRCA in the workplace. Why? One answer is that there are never enough federal budget resources. Another is that administrations of both stripes are loathe to disrupt economic activities - i.e. labor supply in factories, farms and businesses.
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Simpson and Mazzoli’s words from 2006 still ring true today: their 1986 law would have worked, IF they spent the resources go after the employers who hired the workers, as the law requried. But who wants to get in the way of profits, right? In fact, the 2013 bill is shaping up to be a repeat of the 1986 law. And they’ll probably fail to enforce that one too.
..As for the filibuster: at the time, the no-cloture (non-talking) filibuster was in the rules, but there was a “gentleman’s agreement” to not abuse it. The minority generally respected the majority even in the Senate, and didn’t filibuster unless a bill was seen as extreme. Even during the Bush Admin the Dems would vote for cloture despite strong opposition to a bill. The one extreme case when the Dems tried to filibuster, to block the appointment of three “far-right” judges, brought on threats of a Nuclear Option to get rid of the filibuster altogether. After that, it’s been gridlock due to all filibuster all the time.
I agree it could have worked had someone like Reagan been around to enforce it. However, the globalists that followed him both republican and democrats had no intention to enforce border restrictions.
And the Democrats had more than 250 seats in the House. That is why I think it is funny that with the Republicans controlling the House, people talk about the party being dead. In the 1986 election the Republicans lost the Senate after participating in amnesty. The PTB are trying to convince rank and file Republicans that they must pass amnesty to remain viable but nothing could be further from the truth.
So, Reese Witherspoon and other big name stars along with Mayors Against Gun Violence “demand a plan” and are taking a stand against assault rifles which kill less than 323 people a year (mostly criminals killing criminals) while she takes part in an activity that kills 9,878 people a year and injures 1 every 90 seconds.
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By Victoria Cavaliere / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, December 27, 2012, 3:09 PM
Big names join the Mayors Against Gun Violence “demand a plan” campaign by taking a stand against assault rifles.
A long list of celebrities joined Mayor Bloomberg’s efforts to pressure Washington to pass gun control legislation that could prevent tragedies on the scale of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.
Beyonce, Jon Hamm, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell are among the celebrities who recorded a public service announcement sponsored by the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
CLICK HERE TO SIGN THE DAILY NEWS ONLINE PETITION TO BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/beyonce-jon-hamm-stars-backing-gun-control-article-1.1228314 - -
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Reese Witherspoon charged with disorderly conduct
By JONATHAN DREW
The Associated Press
ATLANTA —
Oscar-winning actress Reese Witherspoon was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after a state trooper said she wouldn’t stay in the car while her husband was given a field sobriety test in Atlanta.
Witherspoon was released from jail after the Friday morning arrest and was in New York Sunday night for the premiere of her new film “Mud.” She posed for cameras on the red carpet but did not stop to talk to reporters.
The trooper noticed the car driven by her husband wasn’t staying in its lane early Friday morning, so a traffic stop was initiated. Her husband, James Toth, had droopy eyelids, watery, bloodshot eyes, and his breath smelled strongly of alcohol, according to the report.
Toth told the trooper he’d had a drink, which Witherspoon said was consumed at a restaurant two hours before the traffic stop, the trooper writes.
Before the field sobriety test began, the 37-year-old Witherspoon got out of the car, was told to get back in and obeyed, the report said. After the “Walk the Line” star got out a second time, the trooper said he warned her that she would be arrested if she left the car again.
As the test continued, “Mrs. Witherspoon began to hang out the window and say that she did not believe that I was a real police officer. I told Mrs. Witherspoon to sit on her butt and be quiet,” Trooper First Class J. Pyland writes.
Toth, 42, was then placed under arrest. He was charged with driving under the influence and failure to maintain the lane.
At that point, the report says, Witherspoon got out and asked the trooper what was going on. After being told to return to the car, she “stated that she was a ‘US Citizen’ and that she was allowed to ’stand on American ground,’” the report states.
The trooper then began to arrest Witherspoon. The report says Witherspoon was resistant at first but was calmed down by her husband.
“Do you know my name?” Witherspoon is quoted as asking the trooper. She also said: “You’re about to find out who I am” and “You’re about to be on national news,” according to the report.
Toth and Witherspoon were then taken to jail.
A message left at the office of Witherspoon’s publicist, Meredith O’Sullivan Wasson, wasn’t immediately returned Sunday.
News of the arrest broke shortly before Witherspoon arrived on the “Mud” red carpet.
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In 2011, 9,878 people died in drunk driving crashes - one every 53 minutes
In 2010, 211 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Out of those 211 deaths, 131 (62 percent) were riding with the drunk driver.
Almost every 90 seconds, a person is injured in a drunk driving crash.
MADD - Statistics - Mothers Against Drunk Driving
http://www.madd.org/statistics/ - 44k -
Good Question: How Many People Are Killed By Assault Rifles?
February 12, 2013 11:04 PM
The same story plays out across the nation. Of the 12,664 murders in 2011 reported to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, 6,220 were committed with handguns — about 49 percent of the total report.
By comparison, killers used a rifle on 323 people, 2.5 percent of all murders. Assault rifle murders aren’t split out, but it’s safe to assume it’s less than the 323.
Most put the number of assault weapon murders as between 1 and 2 percent of all murders.
In 2011, knives were used in 1,694 murders. Fists and feet were used in 728 murders, and blunt objects –like clubs, bats and hammers – were used in 496 murders.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/02/12/good-question-how-many-people-are-killed-by-assault-rifles/ - 112k -
More Hope and Change from the Kenyan-in-Chief.
Forward
That’s an interesting point about drunk driving. Let’s tie that back to the recent discussion of Muslim immigration. Since Islam forbids consumption of alcohol, this is a point in favor of letting in the Muslims.
Obama is a muslim. When he was the governor of Illinois he voted against the authorization of use of force cus he was too busy rewarding all his labor union campaign contributors and looked the other way when they blew up our U.S.S.Cole and then nobody saw it coming when Saddam Hussein flew his planes into World Trade Center and it could have all been prevented but Obama voted against it.
^^^^^ I’m dizzy… what..huh??? is it 1984, where’s Eurasia, Oceana ?
Classic!
Mormons can’t drink alcohol or hot beverages.
Mormons can’t drink alcohol or hot beverages.
And “hot beverages” = the 1800s definition. Coffee and tea. Period.
Hot chocolate?
“Good caffeine” = hot chocolate and Coca-cola
“Bad caffeine” = coffee, tea or me
“Mormons can’t drink alcohol or hot beverages.”
Can they eat bacon?
With or without green jello?
Reese has a lawsuit against that guy. A cop cannot arrest you for not being located in your car. There is no law against that.
Reese Witherspoon Breaks Silence After Disorderly Conduct Arrest: “Deeply Embarrassed,” “Very Sorry”
Gina Serpe, eonline
13 hours ago
Reese Witherspoon has spoken out in the wake of her surprising Friday night arrest and brief jailing for disorderly conduct, releasing a contrite statement of apology for her uncharacteristic, headline-grabbing behavior.
“Out of respect for the ongoing legal situation, I cannot comment on everything that is being reported right now,” she said. “But I do want to say, I clearly had one drink too many and I am deeply embarrassed about the things I said.
“It was definitely a scary situation and I was frightened for my husband, but that is no excuse.”
“I was disrespectful to the officer who was just doing his job,” she continued. “I have nothing but respect for the police and I’m very sorry for my behavior.”
I still hope she is going to sue, while keeping a “respectful” attitude. Being drunk is not illegal, nor is being disrespectful. As a matter of fact, cops are about the most disrespectful bunch of people I have ever met.
Think again. You can be arrested for interfering with police work. Polly?
It is not a police officer’s “work” to command that you sit in your car without speaking. Duh.
Is the Federal Reserve Insane?
By Matthew C. Klein Apr 19, 2013 9:39 AM ET
Americans have been whipsawed by devastating cycles of boom and bust over the past three decades. Now some at the Fed want us to go through it again.
There is a word for people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results: insane. Let’s hope that they don’t constitute a majority of the Fed’s voting members, or we will once again be doomed to another destructive and pointless cycle of boom and bust.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/is-the-federal-reserve-insane-.html - 121k -
There is a word for people who do the same thing over and over again, expecting different results: insane.
Most overused BS statement so far this century. What if the conditions and environment change so that doing the same thing again DOES give a different result? That’s probably why people are doing something over — they saw (or thought they saw) the conditions change. And many times conditions DO change. That’s not insanity; that’s “memory” and “intelligence.”
It the conditions are different than are you really doing the same thing? If we had 7% growth, I would have no problem with the size of the deficit, we would be growing are way out of it. However, it is clear under the circumstances we are now in the policies of printing money, increased governmental control, and large deficits are not working and continuing them is insanity.
deficit
According to this article we are lowering our deficits as a percentage of GDP:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/22/news/economy/deficits/index.html?iid=HP_LN
CNN playing with numbers again. The national debt is over 100% today and continues to rise. The deficits are beginning to fall but are still increasing the debt in both nominal amounts and as a percentage of the GDP. We are moving to a 17 trillion dollar debt and have a GDP just over 15 trillion and CNN throws out a number around 75% of GDP what crap.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/fiscalpolicy/p/US_Debt.htm
With an economy around 16 trillion and growth about 2% and inflation around two percent and a debt around 16.5 trillion (over 100% of the GDP), any deficit over $660 billion will put us even deeper in debt as a percentage of our GDP. Guess what, I do not see that deficit projected for this year, another year of digging the hole deeper.
deficits are beginning to fall but are still increasing the debt in both nominal amounts and as a percentage of the GDP
Oh really? From the article:
“What’s more, the national debt that has accumulated from annual deficits is also projected to fall to an estimated 73.1% of GDP in 2018 from an estimated 76.3% today. ”
Looks the trend is our friend. Unless you want us to fail, of course…
And I have challenged the numbers that they are using. How can we have a national debt over 16 trillion and a GDP less than 16 trillion and have a national debt which is 75% of the GDP?
You’re including intra-governmental holdings, which apparently aren’t normally included in the ratio :
“On 2 April 2013, debt held by the public was approximately $11.959 trillion or about 75% of GDP. Intra-governmental holdings stood at $4.846 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $16.805 trillion.”
wikipedia
Yeah, housing buyers are playing with OPM. In my situation, I offered two properties at 96% of list, over the areas 94% avg of list sale prices. Both offers beat by list + asking prices. now prices are getting over $100/sqft. This is insane.
You’re including intra-governmental holdings, which apparently aren’t normally included in the ratio :
They were normally included when Bush was in office by CNN and they should normally be included now.
it was only insane when george bush did it…when obama does it…it’s genius.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obama-as-a-boy-ate-dog-meat/
http://www.palookavillepost.com/2013/04/21/homeland-security-to-investigate-bush-administrations-handling-of-tsarnaev-family-asylum/
Why not investigate how he became a citizen under Obama?
This palookavillepost.com appears to be something like The Onion, except for the fact that it’s not funny.
This is why some here get so mad at:
neocons = progressives
progressive = neocons
And it’s always cheaper to rent than to buy. ALWAYS. Right?
Please explain why you think Irving Kristol, David Feith, Norman Podhoretz, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, or Richard Perle is “progressive”? (Seriously curious here.)
I support gun rights and auditing the FED, that doesn’t make me a Teabilly. Bila supports drug rights and sexual choice, that doesn’t make him a liberal. I rather imagine Paul Wolfowitz would take exception to being characterized as Marxist.
Why would the Fed expect a different result when the desired result is exactly the same?
i.e. make the rich, richer.
Don’t buy a house now, buy later for 65 percent less (nominal).
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Fixed for i-phone and Android but not for the Obamaphone.
I raised the issue to RAL, but he claims that “alot” isn’t a mistake, he really knows that it is “a lot”. He wants to keep “alot” for emphasis. He’s the boss, so…
If our quarterly earnings are week, RAL is probably might outsource my job or bring unpaid interns aboard, so I don’t dare question His judgment about the “alot” thing.
New Robert Chiller article from 2 days ago about housing and land bubbles, their history, and are we in another one now.
From NY Times. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/business/before-housing-bubbles-there-was-land-fever.xml
And the last line:
“With rates now relatively low, this could be an auspicious time to buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage. That could make good sense for people who aren’t out to bet on the housing or mortgage markets but are instead focused on settling into a home for the long term.”
I agree with the 2nd sentence of that quote, I’m just posting this to see if RAL’s blood boils since He quotes Shiller alot [sic] here on the HBB.
The way I see it, the intention to live in a house for a lengthy period of time (possibly one’s whole life) is one of the few things that might cause someone to buy a house these days. Personally I want to live in mine until I die, only decades will show if that comes to pass. Hopefully five decades when we’re back in an ice age or witness the 2nd coming of RAL’s cousin Jesus Christ.
Personally I want to live in mine until I die, only decades will show if that comes to pass.
I’d love to be able to plan that far ahead. Unfortunately that’s not compatible with my career aspiration of having a career no matter what. There are only a few places where you can be almost certain of being able to have a tech career for life without moving. And as we discuss here ad nauseum, those places are extremely overpriced.
I agree, Carl. I only bought because of the very stable job.
This is a systemic conflict that NOBODY has addressed yet. The macroeconomic labor (national) climate favors transience, while the microeconmic (family finance) climate favors staying put and buying.
It’s also ironic that those who have the income to afford and benefit from staying put — i.e. professionals — are the most likely to have to move to keep good jobs. Meanwhile, those who are most likely to stay put — lucky duckies* — don’t have the income to benefit from buying a house.
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*If a lucky ducky loses one McJob, he can at least find a similar McJob in the same metro area relatively quickly.
“I only bought because of the very stable job.”
Ditto for me and my wife. That said, in the downside case, my skill set could get me employed in different parts of the country…however, my wife’s is especially well suited to where we live, which make us unlikely to relocate.
New York Times - Happiness Inc.
“According to Sonja Lyubomirsky, you have a happiness set point. It’s partly encoded in your genes. If something good happens, your sense of happiness rises; if something bad happens, it falls.
Dr. Lyubomirsky’s findings can be provocative and, at times, counterintuitive. Renters are happier than homeowners, she says.”
Renters are happier than homeowners?
Buy a house today and your misery will be incalculable.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/fashion/happiness-inc.html?pagewanted=all
not everyone agrees with Daniel Wood.
But I hate being a renter? I hate the thought of moving.
I used to hate the thought of going somewhere far away. After moving a couple times, I realized that I am never far away. I am always located at the exact spot of where I am.
No matter where you go, there you are.
” I hate the thought of moving.”
Neighbors from hell would cure you of that.
This AP article containing this quote was published on 4/15, just hours after the Boston bombings.
“Across the U.S., from Washington to Los Angeles, police stepped up security, monitoring landmarks, government buildings, transit hubs and sporting events. Security was especially tight in Boston, with bomb-sniffing dogs checking Amtrak passengers’ luggage at South Station and transit police patrolling with rifles.
“They can give me a cavity search right now and I’d be perfectly happy,” said Daniel Wood, a video producer from New York City who was waiting for a train.”
Why did the AP include this quote from Mr. Wood in the article?
What is the intended message to readers from this quote?
And what is the desired reaction from readers to this quote?
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/explosions-boston-marathon-finish-line-18960342
Why did they include the quote? Because it is interesting enough that you noticed it and posted a link to the article on a blog. Your interest in the quote might cause other people to go to the article. That increases traffic to their site and earns them money.
There, how hard was that?
So says the fluffer of statists.
Yup. The school marm who cannot get enough government. Stalin is her idol.
I do not want government paying for Mr. Wood’s pleasure, if he wants to get a woody due to a full cavity search, he is going to have to pay for it with his own money.
You respond with an ad hominem criticism. You’re turning to the teabilly side a little more every day, goon.
I think he says these things because they are memes, meant in a light hearted way.
Goon often does. But Bile doesn’t. And Bile’s definition of “statist” is anyone who believes in any kind of government at all, at least at the federal level. It would be pathetic if it weren’t so funny.
“I think he says these things because they are memes, meant in a light hearted way.”
That’s only clever for a while.
That’s only clever for a while.
True, but compared to the competition it’s a long long while.
What is the intended message to readers from this quote?”
Don’y buy rent instead ?
You think an AP reporter writing during a major breaking news story is inserting quotes to further an agenda? Geeze, not everything is a conspiracy. If someone said that to me as a reporter, it would for sure get in the story. Just as if someone said “I’d rather die than get cavity search.” or some similar thing. Most journalists are just trying to get their story, file it and move on to the next one.
Selling city assets to pay insane public union promises.
Paid for by the last generation of taxpayers.
What is left for the next generation?
Nothing but DEBT.
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United States Decaying From Within! Stocks, Gold and Dollar Outlook
The Market Oracle | 4-21-2013 | Robert M Williams
No one seemed to notice or care that on June 28, 2012 the City of Stockton, California filed a petition for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection with the United States Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of California, Sacramento, Case No. 2012-32118. On Monday, April 1, 2013, a federal judge ruled that Stockton was eligible for bankruptcy protection, over the objection of creditors who argued the city could come up with more money. U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Klein said Stockton can move forward with a plan to reorganize debt. He twice stated that the creditors had acted in bad faith and had refused to pay their share of the costs for negotiations.
As a result Stockton became the nation’s largest city to fail financially. At that time, all eyes were on the port city of 300,000 as experts warned the action could set off a string of similar filings among cash-strapped municipalities. Since then half dozen cities have filed for Chapter 9 protection under the U.S. Bankruptcy Code, including the city of San Bernardino. Of course the media never mentions this. During the 90-day mediation period, Stockton’s creditors refused to negotiate unless the city cut payments to the state pension plan known as CaLPERS. By law the negotiations were confidential, but that detail emerged during the three-day trial that concluded last week. Judge Klein said the creditors could not legally walk away from the table, but he left the door open for CaLPERS obligations to be part of negotiations in the coming phases of the bankruptcy. At issue will be whether U.S. bankruptcy law trumps California law, which says the pension plan must be funded.
The $900 million Stockton owes to the California Public Employees Retirement System (CaLPERS) to cover pensions is its biggest debt -– as is the case with many cities in California. Stockton slashed its police and fire departments, halted bond payments, cut employee benefits and adopted an emergency-spending plan that cut many city services. But the city continues to pay into the state pension. Stockton’s bankruptcy is expected to be closely watched for precedent, and could be appealed as high as the US Supreme Court.
Two of America’s larger cities and relics from the industrial age, Detroit and Philadelphia, are also in serious financial trouble. With respect to Detroit the Governor, Rick Snyder, declared a state of financial emergency two months ago. The Governor pointed to more than $14 billion in long-term liabilities, including underfunded pensions. The city is also poised to end the fiscal year more than $100 million in the red without an infusion of cash, this in a report published last week. The Governor then named Kevyn Orr as the city’s emergency manger giving him many of the same powers as a bankruptcy judge. He can throw out contracts with public employee unions and vendors that the city can’t afford, and he can make further cutbacks in already depleted city services if he decides the city can’t afford them.
Philadelphia isn’t much better off as it attempted to convince bond buyers to take on more of its debt in an effort to avoid bankruptcy. As it turned out Philadelphia’s closed-door two-day schmooze fest with 100 bond underwriters and other would-be lenders only served to generate unwelcome publicity for the nation’s most broke big (million plus residents) city.
Philadelphia was hoping to attract investors for the city, which is rated three steps above junk by Standard & Poor’s. The city and its authorities have $8.75 billion in outstanding debt as of September, according to bond documents, and these same documents also show Philadelphia has less than 50 cents set aside for every $1 it expects to pay current and future retirees.
The conference also includes tours of city assets for sale set for day two, including the Philadelphia Gas Works, the largest municipally owned natural-gas utility in the U.S. The city plans to hire a broker to steer the sale of the system, which may fetch as much as $496 million, according to Lazard Ltd., this according to Bloomberg.
I have been following the markets for more decades than I care to remember and I began to get a whiff of corruption back in the Reagan era. Now the markets have what I can only describe as the stench of death. Anyone who’s ever spent time on a battlefield, or around a natural disaster with a lot of fatalities, knows what I’m referring to. You never forget it! The sources of this stench are the rotting corpses of many failed policies and broken promises. Free markets are now being replaced by a welfare system that is attempting to do the impossible. The government wants to legislate the poor into prosperity and yet it forgets that it cannot give something to someone with out first taking something from someone else!
Back before we began to meddle with the markets and redistribute wealth, the US rose to be the richest creditor nation in the world. It did so with a comparatively small government, no income tax, no central bank and using gold and silver as money! Then came the 1907 crash that devastated Wall Street and Mr. Morgan got together with Mr. Rothschild and decided to make sure that wouldn’t happen again. Out of this was born the US Federal Reserve and the IRS, and both began to operate in 1913. Since then America’s wealth, your wealth, has declined to the point where the US is now the largest debtor nation on the planet. All of your wealth has affectively been transferred to a very select few, and you are left to pay off the debts.
Along the way there have been changes designed to circumvent the US Constitution, and without a doubt these changes limit your freedom. Americans can now be held indefinitely and even executed without due process. Now we’ll use the bombings in Boston as an excuse to do away with whatever obstacles might still be in the way. What happened most recently in Cyprus is a coming attraction to what will happen to your IRA’s and deposits in American banks once people realize what a house of cards they are. Meanwhile these select few are out there buying all the gold, silver, available farm land and any other tangible, useful asset they can get their hands on because they know what’s coming.
I’d rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than driving with Ted Kennedy.
I wood have a preference for neither.
…is the correct answer.
Dick Cheney has 3 DWI convictions.
Me thinks a lot people won’t be getting the pension they think they’ll be getting.
“Meanwhile these select few are out there buying all the gold, silver, available farm land and any other tangible, useful asset they can get their hands on because they know what’s coming.”
Shortly after IRA’s and deposits are taken, the other tangible, useful assets will be also.
CAT and Copper.
Both used to be the “great” future indicators of an economy (before forced zero interest rates, before $7 Trillion in new deficit spending and before the government borrowed 46 cents of every dollar it spent).
FYI - Both are used heavily in housing too.
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Caterpillar Profit Falls Short; Slashes 2013 Sales Outlook
CNBC.com - 4/22/2013
Caterpillar (CAT) posted earnings and revenue that missed Wall Street expectations on Monday, and cut its full-year outlook for 2013 to reflect a drop in demand for heavy equipment from its mining customers.
Caterpillar posted quarterly earnings excluding items of $1.31 per share, down from $2.37 per share in the comparable year-ago period. Revenue sank to $13.21 billion from $15.98 billion a year ago.
Obama’s real father is Frank Marshall Davis.
I heard one guy speak about CAT’s international problems specifically with respect to Japanese currency devaluation. Namely that CAT is going to lose a lot of business to Japanese heavy equipment manufacturers as the Yen falls.
I wonder if any of CAT’s weakness had to do with the weakening Yen (or anticipation of a weaker Yen).
Has Japan’s devaluing of the Yen hurt Korea auto sales yet? Korea has over 50% of their GDP tied to two sectors; Samsung and the auto export business.
Looking at the drop in the Yen I would think american car buyers should be experiencing some price deflation?
The Japanese(with explicit US support) have pissed off the Chinese government and most of the chinese consumers (and destroyed their auto sales in China looking at the latest sales numbers). There maybe a full blown trade war developing between several Asian nations.
As we say at work, sounds like a Nguyen/Nguyen for us.
“As we say at work, sounds like a Nguyen/Nguyen for us.”
That is very funny. Even funnier if you have a Vietnamese co-worker.
Missing Wall St expectations means nothing except to the pump and dump crowd.
And the worker bees who will lose their jobs.
On copper, I’m thinking of buying a rain chain. There are many beautiful ones, but they are made of copper and I’m afraid it wouldn’t last long on the corner of the house. I’ll have to settle for a less-pretty coated aluminum one.
NYT: Land Fever
SINCE 1997, we have lived through the biggest real estate bubble in United States history — followed by the most calamitous decline in housing prices that the country has ever seen.
The Housing Haze
Second of three columns.
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Fundamental factors like inflation and construction costs affect home prices, of course. But the radical shifts in housing prices in recent years were caused mainly by investor-induced speculation.
Anyone contemplating the purchase of a home wants an idea of where prices will be when it is eventually time to sell, perhaps many years later. For that kind of long-term forecasting, we need to understand the reasons for the recent, violent price cycle, and whether it is likely to repeat itself.
History has much to teach us about real estate bubbles, and some of it is reassuring. The land booms of New York State in the 1790s, Kansas in the 1850s, California in the 1880s and Florida in the 1920s all appear to have been relatively isolated events. And the cycle was not repeated in short order.
But those events were fundamentally different from the recent housing bubble. As relatively local phenomena, involving a fairly small number of adventurers, they did not consume most people’s attention. And a major cause can be easily identified: they developed from the promotion of supposedly valuable lots of land.
In fact, outside of New York City and a few urban centers, most speculators in past decades didn’t focus much on home prices. The term “housing bubble” was not even in their vocabulary. Land, not houses, was the object of their desires. They had “land mania” or “land fever.”
In a 1932 book, “The Great American Land Bubble,
As president in the 1790s, George Washington helped promote the sale of lots in his namesake capital city, and even bought some himself. Earlier in his life, he was a surveyor, and in 1763, he was a founder of the Mississippi Land Company, which was to acquire land, survey and subdivide it, and sell off individual farm and town plots to settlers. While his involvement in the development of Washington, D.C., was ultimately successful, his earlier company failed.
Land fevers tend to have a definite starting point and vector of contagion: they begin when a promoter subdivides land into lots small enough for many investors, and are usually accompanied by an advertising blitz with glowing descriptions of the future town and country, setting off a buzz and speculative excitement.
The Florida land bubble of the 1920s provided a turning point in public opinion, thanks to newspaper reporting around the country that made it clear that a mania was being artfully promoted. Anne O’Hare McCormick wrote in The New York Times in 1925: “What impressed me most was that every jungle and swamp and palmetto hummock from Lake City to Key West is staked out in city lots and offered for sale as building sites.” Such colorful writing can have a lasting impact. Many people now remember the image of the trusting Northerner unwittingly buying a lot in a Florida swamp. And the whole enterprise of subdivision, advertising and promotion of empty lots for sale, which made the manias possible, faded.
Shady operators were called purveyors of “premature subdivisions” and “defunct subdivisions.” Local regulators came to demand that development plans were at least intended to produce homes that people would actually live in, not sham operations to defraud ignorant investors.
The first widely documented, nationwide speculative fever attached to single-family homes, as opposed to lots, was in the housing boom of 1943 to 1950. But home prices remained relatively quiet for many years thereafter. Starting in the 1970s, home price bubbles became more frequent and severe. By the end of the 20th century, housing speculation became at least a pastime for many Americans.
Good post macboy.
RE speculation has been a part of this nation even before it WAS a nation.
Once you know this, everything else makes sense and is no longer surprising.
“Land fevers tend to have a definite starting point and vector of contagion: they begin when a promoter subdivides land into lots small enough for many investors, and are usually accompanied by an advertising blitz with glowing descriptions of the future town and country, setting off a buzz and speculative excitement.”
So when did the government start guaranteeing the RE loans?
California, behold thy destiny.
CBS - Statistics Netherlands : House prices 7 percent down in March from twelve months previously
04/22/2013| 04:39am US/Eastern
Prices of existing owner-occupied dwellings were on average 7.0 percent lower in March 2013 than in March 2012. The price drop is less substantial than in the previous month, when house prices dropped by 8.3 percent. The index - a joint publication by Statistics Netherlands and the Land Registry Office - reflects price changes of existing owner-occupied dwellings in the Netherlands.
Prices of existing own homes
Prices of existing owner-occupied dwellings were at the same level in March 2013 as in August 2003. They were more than 18 percent down from August 2008, when house prices reached a record high.
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A very Canadian housing slump
by Stephen Gordon on Monday, April 15, 2013 1:26pm
Data from the housing market out today shows that sales were down 15.3 per cent in March compared to the same period last year. Given the events of the past decade, it is natural to worry about the possibility that Canada is headed for a U.S.-style housing meltdown.
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Northern Ireland house prices slump 8% in year
By Claire McNeilly – 18 April 2013
House prices across Northern Ireland have fallen more than in any other UK region over the past year, new official figures have shown.
They suffered an annual slump of almost 8%, tumbling to an average of £125,000, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
That represents a fifth year of falling Northern Ireland house prices, following a period of strong increases. In contrast a recent Ulster Bank report showed prices here had steadied for the first time since 2007.
The ONS said average UK prices climbed by 1.9% year-on-year in February, with England and Wales driving the increase as Northern Ireland and Scotland posted falls.
In Northern Ireland they tumbled by 7.7% to reach £125,000.
But estate agent John Minnis said his company, which operates in Belfast and north Down, hadn’t seen house prices fall by much.
“Sales have risen dramatically in the last 12 months and we’ve also seen a steadying up of prices across the board, and I’ve no evidence to support price falls of 8%,” said Mr Minnis.
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Guidelines on living standards for insolvent debtors out tomorrow
Expenses guidelines will also be revealed and the remit of Personal Insolvency Practitioners outlined
Alan Shatter: will launch the guidelines with the Insolvency Service of Ireland. Photograph: Mac Innes Photography/Department of the Taoiseach via Getty Images
Wed, Apr 17, 2013, 15:55
First published: Wed, Apr 17, 2013, 15:55
Long-awaited guidelines on living standards for insolvent debtors will be published in Government Buildings tomorrow afternoon.
Last month Taoiseach Enda Kenny moved to assure “every person in the country, man and woman, particularly women, that no guideline laid down by the personal insolvency agency will be mandatory or have a condition that anybody has to give up a job”.
He was speaking after a series of leaks suggested insolvent debtors may have to give up their jobs if their income is less than the cost of childcare, while health insurance and cars may also have to be surrendered.
Under the leaked draft guidelines, families who entered an insolvency arrangement could be forbidden from taking holidays for as long as six years, while a single adult will be allowed just €31 a month to cover health costs.
The leaks also suggested the Insolvency Service of Ireland, which will launch the guidelines tomorrow with Minister for Justice Alan Shatter, considered allowing a single person just €29 a week for “social participation”, while people who live close to a public transport network may be forced to sell their cars and be given a monthly allowance of €136 to spend on public transport.
Just over €100 was to be allowed to cover all energy costs, while single people were to be given €20 a month to cover emergencies.
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Wow, micromanaged austerity! For some perspective and context, I wiki-ed up “Bankruptcy in the Republic of Ireland.”
From what I can tell, the Irish Parliament revisited the strict bankruptcy laws a couple years ago, when they figured out there were a ton of housing bankruptcies waiting to happen. Personal Insolvency is one route to settle bankruptcy. Under this program, debtors voluntarily submit to micro-managed austerity* in exchange for more lenient bankruptcy terms of three years, or as part of a payment plan. There might even be debt cancellation, but the details are foggy to me. How do they plan to enforce €29 in “social participation” (ie pubbing and clubbing)?
IMO this would never fly in the US. Way too much nanny-stating, even for a voluntary program.
How do they plan to enforce €29 in “social participation” (ie pubbing and clubbing)?
I doubt they will enforce it, it’s probably just figured into your monthly allowance that way.
4:19 am Apr 16, 2013
Bankruptcy
Moody’s Points to Lost Decade for Spanish Housing
By Art Patnaude
Europe can look pretty alright at the moment. Stocks are up, bonds are steady, the Cyprus bailout is not going to be a knockout blow.
But in Spain, there are still problems as big as a house. Or more accurately, as big as hundreds of thousands of houses.
A Moody’s Investors Service report Monday said Spanish property values will continue to fall for at least another five years. The math that leads to that figure might be complicated, but the rationale is easy enough: there are too many houses to sell at a time when over a quarter of the population is unemployed. Those with jobs are worried about a prolonged recession. To top it off, banks just aren’t lending like they used to, and a government subsidy for people buying their first homes was abandoned in January.
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Greece’s great fire sale
From pristine beaches to palaces, entire islands and its London embassy, a nation in crisis is selling its assets, writes Harriet Alexander.
The coast at Afandou is part of the Greek government’s desperate attempts to raise money by privatising its vast portfolio of state-owned assets. Photo: ALAMY
By Harriet Alexander, Rhodes
6:00PM BST 20 Apr 2013
As George Georgas drives his golf buggy along the sea front, the sprightly 80-year-old muses on why this is the best stretch of coast in the world.
The beach is the longest on the Greek island of Rhodes – four miles of crystal waters, flanked by a gently sloping pebble shore. The 18-hole golf course that flanks it is lined with olive trees and wild flowers, and there is scarcely a hotel or high rise in sight.
Mr Georgas has played here for over 30 years. And now he thinks the government should sell it.
“We are like a bankrupt housewife forced to sell the silver, to save the family,” he said. “Greece has no choice.”
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Sadly, this looks like one of the only options. We may have to do the same someday if our debt situation does not improve.
British widow: ‘I face ruin from Cyprus crisis’
Sharon Connor stands to lose upwards of €50,000 after her profits from a house sale remain frozen in a bank on the island
Helena Smith
The Observer, Saturday 13 April 2013
Sharon Connor, the money from the sale of her house in Cyprus is frozen in the Cyprus bank crisis. Photograph: Graham Turner for the Guardian
Tragedy first struck Sharon Connor when her husband, Gary, was killed by a heart attack in January last year. He had just turned 54. From running a successful scuba-diving business on Cyprus, the mother-of-two found herself catapulted into a world of grief, unable to even visit the ornate, two-storey villa the couple had bought on the island.
“It took me five months before I could set foot in the place,” said Connor, who was on her own when she found her husband dead in bed. “I still have flashbacks and see it in my head all the time.”
In March the widow decided to put the property on the market. In the space of three days she had found a buyer, located a new home in the UK and a job outside London. “I was trying to move forward with my life,” the 55-year-old told the Observer from Kent, “until I found myself caught up in the nightmare scenario that has befallen Cyprus”.
This weekend the Briton faces the prospect of financial ruin following the shattering news that the proceeds from her house sale – €181,000 (£155,000) – will remain frozen in the Bank of Cyprus as a result of capital controls enforced to contain the crisis.
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Italy housing market slumps, sales drop 23%, mortgages 39%
134,984 property deal closed in third quarter of 2012
15 April, 14:53
(ANSAmed) - ROME - The big impact the recession is having on Italy’s housing market was shown on Monday when Istat said property sales in the third quarter of last year were down by over 23%.
It said 134,984 property sales were closed at notaries between July and September last year, 23.1% down on the same three months in the previous year.
The national statistics agency added that the number of mortgages granted in the first nine months of 2012 was 39.5% lower than in the same period of 2011.
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Greater Vancouver housing sales plunge 29%
BRENT JANG
VANCOUVER — The Globe and Mail
Published Monday, Mar. 04 2013, 1:53 PM EST
Last updated Monday, Mar. 04 2013, 5:01 PM EST
Housing sales in Greater Vancouver fell 29 per cent last month as sellers held out for improved bids and prospective buyers bided their time.
There were 1,797 transactions last month for single-family detached homes, condos and townhouses, compared with 2,545 in February of 2012.
The benchmark price for resale properties was $590,400 last month, down 3.3 per cent from a year earlier, according to the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver.
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Vancouver’s vacancies point to investors, not residents
FRANCES BULA
VANCOUVER — Special to The Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Mar. 20 2013, 10:00 PM EDT
Last updated Thursday, Mar. 21 2013, 12:43 PM EDT
Nearly a quarter of condos in Vancouver are empty or occupied by non-residents in some dense areas of downtown, a signal that investors play a significant role in the city’s housing market.
And the city overall has a much higher rate of empty apartments and houses than other Canadian cities, with a rate closer to places like New York and San Francisco at the height of their mortgage crisis in 2010.
Downtown, the rate is so high that it’s as though there were 35 towers at 20 storeys apiece – empty.
That’s the latest discovery that adjunct UBC planning professor Andrew Yan made when he analyzed 2011 census numbers to try to add more information to the contentious debate over whether Vancouver is turning into a high-end resort or offshore investors’ holding tank.
He revealed those numbers Wednesday night, as a capacity crowd turned out to listen to speakers on a panel at SFU Woodward’s talk about “foreign investment in Vancouver real estate.”
In all, the city of Vancouver appears to have about 7,500 more vacant housing units than what would be expected in most other Canadian cities. For Metro Vancouver, there are around 15,000 to 20,000 more.
That sign of high vacancies and non-resident-owned units, which contradict some other studies and assurances that Vancouver is not being flooded with investors, should give the city pause, analysts say.
“What kind of community are you living in if there are that many empty? For a city to have that kind of vacancy, it’s like cancer,” said Richard Wozny, a real estate consultant, during an interview Wednesday. “It distorts density and it’s delaying the impact. It raises the question ‘Are we over-building?’”
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These questions always come AFTER THE FACT. Why weren’t they asked BEFORE the permits were issued? I know why: GREED.
Ten articles about Europe and Canada? Seriously?
Who wants to read about all that far away nonsense? Let’s talk about USA, and specifically Atlanta. I made so much money on Atlanta investment properties in the past five years and in spite of what the HBB chorus of nattering nabobs of negativism said that I decided to buy my own Applebee’s franchise! Now I’ll never wait for a table again, cus I own this f*ing place…
Sweet.
Where is EddieTard nowadays?
Nobody has made money off of US real estate “in the past five years”. Maybe in the past two.
“With rates now relatively low, this could be an auspicious time to buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage. That could make good sense for people who aren’t out to bet on the housing or mortgage markets but are instead focused on settling into a home for the long term. ”
- Robert Shiller, in the NY Times this weekend
*pops popcorn, waits for RAL to awaken*
“…but are instead focused on
settling into a homeowning a money-losing investment for the long term. ”I “lost” money at the elementary school fair’s carnival games this weekend, but my kids had such a great time that it’s cool. The prizes were as follows: Perform flawlessly at the game, win two pieces of candy. Fail at the game disastrously, win one piece of candy.
My point is, since people are not robots, they (we, I) often spend money on things with nothing more than an emotionally satisfying return and a complete monetary loss. I think I would be pretty sad if I looked at every cent I spent as only a financial win or loss. Maybe that’s why I don’t have much money, but whatever. To each his own.
You are making the same conceptual error as macdummy:
Losing money on carnival fair games or even a falling-value car purchase should not be equated to throwing away your life’s savings on a falling knife real estate purchase.
Anyone who spends a big enough fraction of their $ on housing (either by renting or buying) and thus throws away “life savings” is ridiculously stupid.
Housing is an expense. You can match the expense to your lifestyle, you can take steps to mitigate it, etc.
You have to be in the business of building/landlording/renovating before you should view it as an “investment”. And even then, god help you if it’s your “life savings”.
Western thought is really stupid regarding housing. “Housing is an investment” and “life savings” don’t belong in a discussion about housing.
It’s not so stupid if you look to who gains from such thinking.
For them, it’s perfectly legit if not a god given divine right.
Thanks Joe, you said it perfectly. I don’t advocate anyone spending all of their life savings on anything, but if someone wants to spend a little (or a lot) more on something they both can afford and makes them happier, good for them.
Oh…. so long as you’re “happy”? Got it.
Hows the knitting club going?
Yes, as long as I’m happy, can afford it, and I’m not hurting anyone else. Knitting club sucks, those ladies are not as nice as you would think they would be.
What did you pay for your debt-shack?
Au contraire. By its definition before it was bastardized by stupid gamblers buying houses they couldn’t afford, only to predictably lose their shirts, “investing” and “life savings” were two sides of the same coin.
Eating lunch is a loss, but I can choose whether I want to loose $2 or loose $20 buying lunch.
Paying interest to rent money from a bank for overpriced housing, however, results in incalculable losses.
And your above example of fail at the game and still be rewarded with candy, is exactly what’s wrong with America. Everybody gets to be a winner, everybody has high self-esteem, nobody is ever told that they are a looser. Guess what, not everybody gets to be an astronaut when they grow up.
nobody is ever told that they are a looser.
May be there’s a reason nobody is told they are a loser. Do you want a mass shooting in your mall/school/marathon?
Imagine a world where people are told the truth. Man I don’t want to to be around these people when they are going thru their anger phase.
You know, when you’re not repeating your usual mantras, you have some really good posts. Like this one. +1
goon, that’s way over the top. “Exactly what’s wrong with America” is that my 1st grader, K5, and 3-year old win one Tootsie Roll when they didn’t pop a balloon with a dart? That’s really what you think caused America’s problems? The older people who got America into this mess didn’t grow up with everyone winning, so I’m not sure how you make that connection.
Plus, like most parents, I don’t shelter my kids from losing. My two boys go to Tae Kwon Do and get beat up and lose more than they win. I just don’t think in every aspect of life they should always lose no matter how hard they try. There’s a balance, right?
Eating lunch is a win, because it gives me the energy needed this afternoon to do the work I need to do in order to buy lunch again tomorrow.
That’s because it was not an option for you to rent the tickets. See the diff there?
Yes, but I had a choice not to buy them. To spend more and lose or less and not lose. I chose to lose. That was my point, that sometimes we choose to lose money because some money-losing things make us happier.
perk:
You didn’t lose money by buying the tickets. You spent money. Losing money is when you overpay.
If you are in the hyper-inflationary camp, buying a house at 3.5% interest is smart.
Even at a hyperinflated price tag?
Do me a favor, joe smith. Take the word “goon” out of your extended username. When searching HBB threads for my own (numerous) postings I have to scroll through all of yours now too.
This blog is only big enough for one goon.
I have modified my name so it won’t show up in searches for yours.
You could have just dropped the “n”.
When searching HBB threads for my own (numerous) postings
I bet you worship your reflection in stillwater ponds too?
j/k. I do the same at night, to see if anyone answered my stuff. It takes a lot longer to scroll through all the oxides on Global Warming Debate days.
No, I worship Bill in Los Angeles.
You know who I pray to? Joe Pecsi.
rates “relatively” low? Is this dude senile?
“relatively” low ??
Yeah…relative to what ??…We are basically at zero…
Consumerist:
If life were a 1950s sitcom, college graduates would zoom out of school, get a job, buy a house, buy a car and get married. But these days, student loans are just one of many reason debtors under 30 are staying far away from the housing and auto markets. That, and life isn’t a sitcom. A new report from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shows that this age group could be a drag on the economy by the very fact that they aren’t participating in it.
Because younger people aren’t able to join in the fun of buying homes and cars, and instead are stuck with low credit scores, reports the bank’s Liberty Street Economics blog. A third of borrowers are in repayment delinquency as of the end of 2012, making those people a lot less likely to spend big and boots the economy.
“Now, for the first time in at least 10 years, 30-year-olds with no history of student loans are more likely to have home-secured debt than those with a history of student loans,” wrote the authors of the data analysis.
This is surprising because in the past, it held true that the more educated a person was, the more likely it was for them to have higher incomes and thus, spend some of that income on buying a home. But now that student debt has taken off, and there aren’t perhaps as many jobs floating around out there with nice fat salaries, this isn’t the case anymore.
If things keep going this way, even more of the under 30 age group could be in debt: Back in 2003, 25% of 25-year-olds had student debt. That number has ballooned to 43% of the same age group, with the total debt balance growing by 91% in that time period, from $10,649 to $20,326.
What those kidz need are $500,000 “starter” homes.
Cueing the NAR-scum liars to pimp about “pent-up” demand.
What those kidz need are $500,000 “starter” homes ??
What they need is job opportunity which we have basically vaporized over the past twenty years…
The past twenty years have been very, very kind to the 0.1%.
But any discussion of that is just “class warfare”, and proposing to implement a transaction tax on stock trades would be HEY LOOK! ONE OF THOSE OCCUPY WALL STREET BUMS JUST TOOK A DUMP ON A POLICE CAR!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
It is quite possible that “comfy middle class” will prove to be a historical anomaly. Perhaps feudalism is the more stable economic state.
In a few years those kids will start to inherit those $500,000 starter homes.
Like I said a long time ago most kids WILL own a house inherited from their parents…And lots will move back into it….
So the question is will they sell their share to pay off the student loans and move on with their lives?
Or can the government force them to sell the house to pay off the loans if they are in default?
Even if they inherit (and that certainly is not a given any more) how will they afford the maintenance?
Who will decide between among more than one child who ultimately owns it?
Will it have to be sold to pay off debts?
Was it reversed mortgaged?
Will the property taxes revert back to norm once the senior exemption are no longer valid?
All of that takes… money.
The houses will have to be sold to pay for the Medicaid liens.
Unless your parents were smart enough to sign over the house years before its needed…
Which the overwhelming majority of them aren’t. And most of the kids won’t/can’t quit work to do the care themselves.
It’s not just college students who can’t get decent paying jobs and they sure a hell aren’t the main cause of the drag.
72,000,000 people make $500 a week or less. That’s almost half of the entire US workforce.
Oh, turkey lurkey, the downest Debbie Downer ever to post on HBB.
“This is surprising because in the past, it held true that the more educated a person was, the more likely it was for them to have higher incomes and thus, spend some of that income on buying a home.”
Surprise!
To whom, exactly?
Got shrinkage in your shorts?
There has never been a better time to buy the dip!
And wasn’t Goldman Sachs just last week prognosticating doom for gold traders? This week’s target: Dr. Copper
April 22, 2013, 6:46 a.m. EDT
Gold prices shoot up 2.6% as ‘shorts’ shrink
Goldman cuts its copper forecasts
By Barbara Kollmeyer and Carla Mozee, MarketWatch
MADRID (MarketWatch) — Gold futures shot higher on Monday after data showed some investors expect prices for the precious metal to rebound after their recent selloff. Copper, meanwhile, continued to fall after Goldman Sachs cut its forecasts for the metal.
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Broke through the $1420 resistance level. Kitco headline includes the phrase “Strong Physical Demand.”
Ergo.
April 22, 2013, 8:59 a.m. EDT
Too much Apple and gold
Commentary: Why both investments dominate so many portfolios
By Chuck Jaffe, MarketWatch
If your mutual funds have been disappointing this year — at a time when the market is up about 9% year-to-date — there are three likely causes:
1. Apple Inc.
2. Gold
3. Something else
There was a time not that long ago, when the exact same list of factors could have been the reason your mutual funds were killing it, and outperforming the competition.
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Does your apple stock harbor a worm?
April 22, 2013, 7:01 a.m. EDT
Apple ‘miss’ may already be priced in
Street cutting estimates cut on March, June quarters ahead of report
By Dan Gallagher, MarketWatch
Apple CEO Tim Cook introduces the iPhone 5 at an event last December. The company’s stock hit a peak just above $700 two weeks later before starting a precipitous downslide.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — A key question for Apple Inc.’s investors heading into what is likely to be a challenging earnings report on Tuesday afternoon is whether the stock — down nearly 45% since last fall — has been punished enough.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook facing ouster pressure: Forbes contributor
April 22, 2013, 9:52 AM
Apple (AAPL +1.47%) CEO Tim Cook may have more riding on this week’s quarterly results than investors, according to Forbes Contributor Gene Marcial.
That’s because dissatisfaction with Apple’s stock performance during Cook’s tenure is on the rise. The stock closed at a fresh 52-week low of $390 Friday.
Before anybody gets too excited, however, it’s probably worth considering that Marcial’s sourcing appears a bit thin: “Some Wall Street sources close to some Apple executives say such a move is afoot.”
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I think that a key part of Apple’s success has to do with senior management’s ability to keep Jonathan Ive happy. And employed by Apple.
Who is Jonathan Ive? He’s Apple’s lead product designer. Also one of the few people on the planet who was well treated by Steve Jobs during Jobs’ tenure at Apple.
Watch what happens with Ive. Everything else is just noise.
Ron Johnson did a pretty bang up job driving JC Penny into the ground. He lost $427m in 3 months and about $2b in 2 years, and as a takeaway , he’ll get $1m a year until he dies. Sweet gig if you can get it.
Watch what happens with Ive.
I think Ive’s time run out. Apple had a great run with high priced slick gadegts (every 6 months) for almost a decade now. People are really clamoring for contents not new shiny gadgets to get the same old boring contents.
JC Penny was dead anyhow.
Sell in
MayApril and go away.April 22, 2013, 8:24 a.m. EDT
Spring economic swoon arrives on time
Forget first-quarter GDP — growth appears to be tapering
By Jeffry Bartash, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The U.S. economy just can’t seem to get itself out of the briar patch.
The government is expected to report Friday that the U.S. expanded at a relatively healthy 3% clip in the first three months of 2013 after a paltry 0.4% gain in the fourth quarter. But don’t put too much stock into the mostly backward-looking report on gross domestic product.
The telltale signs of another midyear slowdown are already evident in softer consumer spending, a barely growing manufacturing industry and a slower pace of private-sector hiring. The same seesaw pattern also occurred in 2012 and 2011.
“It’s just like 2012. There will be ups and downs throughout the year,” said Paul Edelstein, director of financial economics at IHS Global Insight. “We’re in an uneven recovery.”
Spring swoon — again
Although GDP will certainly grab the public limelight, Wall Street will pay close attention to weekly jobless claims, orders for big-ticket items and a pair of reports on home sales. Those reports will shed more light on the latest twists and turns in the U.S. economic outlook.
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LMAO!
So predictable. Hike taxes and the economy slows. Less disposable cash = less spending.
Wait until Joe and Jill-6 get their ObamaCare bills in the not-too-distant future.
And worse…with video conferencing and more people to people contact those with good Teeth will get the job first…and its not covered in ohbewannacare.
Those video conference people really should have throught first before they invented video conferencing. Think of all the people they tossed out of jobs.
I have never understood why teeth are not covered by medical insurance, especially now that the connection between unhealthy gums and heart disease is established.
Because dentures are (relatively) cheap.
looks like CAT isnt selling much. I wonder what % of their earnings are out of the US. It must be a high percentage.
CAT has the same problem many exporters have which is the strong dollar, which was the cause of the weakness in gold prior to the giant manipulation, is killing sales and thus killing the US recovery.
have which is the strong dollar ??
But, its a strong dollar by default isn’t it ??…There is no place else to go….Even Germany is starting to falter…
Yes, mostly by default. However, I think the government may have allowed it to increase to cool gasoline prices. If you remember at the beginning of the year we started off with record gasoline prices for the month. The strong dollar drove down both oil and gold, at least in dollar terms. But now, we have the problem of slower growth so they will have to lower the dollar. I think the bear raid on gold might have been a preemptive attack on gold to keep it from rising too high after they dropped the dollar. We have a government running from one manipulation to another to correct problems caused by the previous manipulation.
PS I need to leave and get a haircut, I have a white man’s afro going on. My hair does not grow longer it grows higher.
White man’s afro?
Is that an attempt to prove to HBB that you’re not a racis? Cus we know you don’t like Obama. And anybody who doesn’t like Obama is racis.
No, that is an accurate description of my hair. No one that knows me would dispute it. It use to be curly blond when I was young. It became darker as a grew older and even more wild. Think Lyle L. , if I don’t keep it cut.
I thought that was the Elvis looookkkk???????
April 22, 2013, 9:39 a.m. EDT
Treasurys turn higher after Chicago Fed
By Ben Eisen, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Treasurys shed early losses Monday after the Chicago Fed released its national activity index showing U.S. growth was below the national trend-line in March.
The index recorded a -0.23 in March, a swing downward from the +0.76 recorded in February. Positive readings indicate above-average activity while negative readings show below-average growth.
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PC outlook darkens as sales slump deepens in first quarter
Posted: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:00 am
Associated Press
SAN FRANCISCO — The ailing personal computer market is getting weaker, and it’s starting to look as if it will never fully recover as a new generation of mobile devices reshapes the way people use technology.
The latest evidence of the PC’s infirmity emerged Wednesday with the release of two somber reports showing unprecedented declines in sales of desktop and laptop machines during the first three months of the year.
As if that news wasn’t troubling enough, it appears that a pivotal makeover of Microsoft’s ubiquitous Windows operating system seems to have done more harm than good since the software was released last October.
“This is horrific news for PCs,” said BGC Financial analyst Colin Gillis. “It’s all about mobile computing now. We have definitely reached the tipping point.”
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As if that news wasn’t troubling enough, it appears that a pivotal makeover of Microsoft’s ubiquitous Windows operating system seems to have done more harm than good since the software was released last October.
My desktop PC went on the fritz last week. It’s feel much better now, TYVM.
The young man who fixed it, a neighbor with a real talent for bringing dead or wounded computers back to life, said that Windows 8 is a real dud. As in, a dud of Vista-like proportions.
Oops. Monday morning typing fingers. I meant to say that my computer is feeling much better.
Windows 8 killed the market.
Phones are also about all the computer many people need.
And Obama will provide all of the free phones that people need.
And why not have government take over the portable phone/internet business?
During the past decade, government has altready taken over housing and medicine. Why not utilities?
Windows 8 killed the market.
Phones are also about all the computer many people need.
Phones are fine if you just want to view content. If you want/need to create it, you’ll still need a computer.
I long for the days when the government regulated electricity companies.
Exactly Slim….Kids today are totally lost in a Library. or how to use search. Because they dont have or use a home computer anymore
——-phones are fine if you just want to view content. If you want/need to create it, you’ll still need a computer.
If you want/need to create it, you’ll still need a computer.
But that’s a lot fewer people, a much smaller market.
The “phablet” is all most people are going to need from now on.
Create? Isn’t Facebook/Twitter “creating”?
Commodities slump sends slow ripples through world economy
By Alan Wheatley, Global Economics Correspondent
LONDON | Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:52am EDT
(Reuters) - Lower airfares, cheaper food and rising profit margins are among the benefits that should flow from tumbling oil and commodity prices - but only after a long lead time.
Having poured $400 billion into commodities over the past decade, many investors are now selling. Their confidence that risky assets could only float higher on a rising tide of cheap central bank money has crumbled as the global economy fails to respond to the stimulus.
Even China, an important buyer of natural resources, is slowing. Inflation, against which gold in particular is a classic hedge, is falling nearly everywhere.
Price pressures will ease further if natural resources keep falling. That is bad news for exporters such as Saudi Arabia and Brazil but good news for net importers.
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Sold in 2007 and went away.
Gordon G. Chang, Contributor
Op/Ed
4/21/2013 @ 2:16PM |45,346 views
Global Banks Are ‘Divorcing’ China
Birds on Kowloon Mosque and HSBC sign
Could HSBC say “zaijian” to China? (Photo credit: Joybot)
HSBC Group is expected in the next few months to sell its 8.0% stake in the Bank of Shanghai. The financial services giant could receive as much as $800 million from its shares in the second-tier Chinese lender.
Why do analysts think HSBC will unload its holding soon? It looks like the Bank of Shanghai is set to raise $2 billion by selling newly issued stock, on the Shanghai and Hong Kong exchanges, with a value of up to 30% of its existing shares. The listing could occur before June, so HSBC will have to act now if it does not want to be trapped by a lock-up period, typically imposed on existing shareholders for periods of up to a year.
Two years ago, nobody thought HSBC would ever dispose of major Chinese assets. Now, there is talk it might get rid of all of them.
Analysts sense a change in sentiment because HSBC is already dumping Chinese assets. This year it completed the sale of its 15.6% interest in Ping An to Thai conglomerate Charoen Pokphand Group for $9.4 billion. Previously, the shares in China’s second-largest life insurance company had been described as “strategic.” Then, there are rumors that the institution, once known as the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, will also sell its half interest in HSBC Life Insurance, which laid off 130 sales staff recently.
The investment community is even talking about a once-unthinkable event, the disposal of HSBC’s 18.7% holding in Bank of Communications. John Bond, when he headed HSBC, wanted to increase the stake in Bocom, as China’s fifth-largest lender is known, and eventually control it. Today, however, HSBC looks like it will never achieve management control.
The dominant view is that HSBC will be content to continue holding its Bocom stake because, as one unnamed Shanghai analyst told the South China Morning Post, a sale would mean “HSBC’s China story will be over.” That analyst may think it is inconceivable that any major bank would ever exit China, but the country is no longer that important to the world’s financial community.
In fact, it looks as if HSBC will have to work hard to find another bank to take its Bank of Shanghai shares. The fact that it could not find a financial institution to buy its Ping An stake is a sign that, in general, foreign bankers are “divorcing” China, as South China Morning Post columnist Doug Young recently put it.
The reason for the unhappiness is clear. HSBC, for instance, sold Ping An because it was unable to get “strategic returns” from the insurance company.
HSBC is not the only institution to feel this way. Analysts think Bank of America (BAC +1.92%) sold the bulk of its remaining China Construction Bank holding in 2011 and Goldman Sachs unloaded another tranche of shares in the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China this January because, like HSBC, they were frustrated that their large stakes weren’t helping them further their China businesses. Chinese banks simply do not believe that they need enduring relations with foreign counterparts, which are now getting impatient.
This is a good time for foreign banks to pull the trigger. For one thing, foreign institutions have been bailing out of China with big profits. HSBC, for example, announced it would record an after-tax gain of $2.6 billion from its disposal of Ping An.
Furthermore, prospects for the Chinese banking sector are not especially bright. Profits at the big banks fell last year, and, as the International Business Times reports, profitability is on a long-term downward trend.
Most important, there are growing concerns that Chinese banks are perched at the edge of a cliff. They have been hiding substantial liabilities through various means, including moving unwanted assets off their books into “wealth management products”—high-yielding investments offered by technically unrelated pools—while nonetheless retaining risk of loss. The China Banking Regulatory Commission, to its credit, issued regulations at the end of last month to force banks to rein in the shadowy products, but as a practical matter the rules only begin to address systemic problems.
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Looming sight of ‘ghost cities’
Cathy Wu
Thursday, April 18, 2013
The most famous mainland “ghost city” - Ordos in Inner Mongolia - is a typical example of excessive development often seen across the border. But Ordos is just the tip of the iceberg. New properties left vacant can easily be spotted even in commercial and industrial hubs, including Tianjin, Chongqing, Chengdu and Dongguan.
Mainland property prices are threatening to rise to record highs - but so are vacancy rates at Grade A office buildings.
Analysts say this proves the presence of bubbles in the mainland property market, as the high prices are supported not by demand, but rather by speculative activity.
Tianjin, the third-largest mainland city with a population of more than 14 million, is expected to see vacancy rates at Grade A office buildings go up to as much as 45 percent by next year, global real estate adviser DTZ said.
The east coast city reportedly had a vacancy rate at 16 percent by the end of last year. But that is seen to increase to 45 percent by 2014 - with an additional 300,000 square meters of gross floor area set to become available this year, DTZ estimates.
According to studies by the Centaline Property Research Center in Tianjin, the city recorded 109 office building transactions in February, with total GFA involved dropping 30 percent on-month to 39,800 sq m.
A report from CBRE, the world’s biggest commercial real estate services and investment firm by revenue, says that many Tianjin projects were delayed due to the uncertain economy. But those delayed projects will hit the market together this year, as many as eight of them in the downtown area and offering an estimated 490,000 sq m in additional GFA.
The office leasing market was rather lackluster last year, as some logistics companies either moved out of high-end premises or reduced their leasing areas on capital constraints. But the phenomenon did not set alarm bells ringing for developers.
Office-building supply in Tianjin expanded sharply last year, making stocks balloon.
Despite that, the city’s Binhai New Area, a district hoping to replicate the development seen in Shenzhen and Shanghai’s Pudong, has been turned into a huge construction site, with concrete dust obscuring the horizon.
Office buildings under construction can be seen every few blocks, some of them freshly launched.
But even some completed buildings are seeing very thin traffic flows, as lower-level shop areas are still under construction.
Yan Yi, deputy chair of Tianjin University of Finance and Economics, said the city’s office leasing market now is reaching an equilibrium and any new supply will very likely push up vacancy rates. CBRE said in its report that new projects in the pipeline will have a negative effect on the trend of rising rents, as some developers try to liquidate part of their stock to improve cash flow.
The consultancy forecasts that vacancy rates will keep rising in the next few seasons, while office rent, especially for premises in Binhai New Area, will be under pressure.
The malaise of high vacancy rates has also hit industrial property, with more than 10 factory buildings in the newly developed area left abandoned for more than six months.
A source said the property belongs to a well-known local company called Aiguozhe, which had to abandon the project due to shortage of capital.
Initial plans were to turn the 40,000 sq m Binhai site into a research and development facility with an annual production capacity worth more than 6 billion yuan (HK$7.5 billion). However, intense competition meant products that Aiguozhe planned to make in the facility were already outdated and could not get any market share. So the original plan did not work out, the source said.
Not far from the factory, an office building with the same Aiguozhe characters on its wall has also been vacant for more than a year.
Experts note that the slowing global economy has made many multinational corporations halt China expansion plans, while mainland firms are also slowing down business development for the same reason. This has triggered a drop in demand for office buildings in big cities, they say.
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Looks like China has a severe shortage of Jingle males and other landlords wanna be.
SFH’s as rentals: a ridiculous idea. And even if you can make the numbers work, a vastly inferior strategy compared to multi-unit housing or rowhomes.
And, I should add, I think the advantage of owning rental rowhomes/multi-unit structures will increase over time as energy, water, and insurance become relatively more expensive.
Also, as the population ages and families with working parents continue to get smaller (less kids), there will be relatively more people looking to dump SFHs and more people open to attached product.
When I look at rentals in the DC area, I cringe at all these 3-4 story townhome things. Seems like such a pain to move into/out of as a renter.
Remember the Saudi with the burns on his hands at the bombing site? While add this to the list why he should be a suspect: http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/saudi-national-questioned-in-boston-was-on-terror-watch-list.html
Make up your mind. Who you wanna bomb, Saudi or Irani?
I think we need to face the fact that this is broader than a few nuts. It is 40 to 50% of the Muslims that have gone nuts. Bomb the Saudis, no. Pressure them to close their Islamic nut schools throughout the world, yes.
No need to bomb. I would just lay cable across the muslim countries and provide free America-style cable to those nations. Including Playboy Channel.
All the restless youths would have something else to do.
I don’t think that is such a bad idea if not practical. I really do think we need to have something like a radio free Europe with the Islamic nations. In many ways they are like North Korea, they only hear one side of the story. But you know our information flow gets more and more restricted everyday even with our access to the Internet. BTW, that link about the Saudi seems to have disappeared. Fox has been legitimately criticized for years for its coverage or lack there of about SA primarily due to investors in the company.
again it s NOT the county is the religion we have no business killing saddam or kadaffi or any president its not their call……..
Keep pimping the FEAR, dannyboy. That’s exactly the reaction that “they” want.
someone’s gone cuckoo for cocoa puffs
I guess if you can’t refute the evidence you can engage in an ad hominem attack. There is more than enough evidence to hold the Saudi for an investigation. I object to putting him on a plane back to SA without the investigation. I think that is reasonable. If you do not you should refute my posts and the evidence but since you can’t you engage in the cheap shots.
Dannyboy, when you pimp the FEAR it only fuels the Homeland Security Fear Industrial Complex, feeding into exactly what Bloomberg, Feinstein, Cuomo want, a scared and bewildered populace cowered into believing that only the watchful eyes of Aunt Janet can save them.
This link “could not be found”.
Can you give us the highlights?
New link: http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-national-questioned-boston-bombings-allegedly-flagged-terror-134039390.html
Since I didn’t get the data up until late last night, here is a REPOST from yesterday’s thread about the median home price being up 8% in CA:
The lack of inventory at the low end doesn’t help (COULD be a byproduct of less distress generally moving through the market…total distressed sales in February 2013 were at 33%, down from 53% the year earlier…don’t know if it went down from Feb to March).
However, seasonality is the big culprit. February is usually the annual low in median, so an increase in March is expected.
In fact, here’s some news you can use from analyzing the data from Zillow.
From 1997 to 2012 (16 full years of data that they share), the increase in median from February to March was:
The highest monthly increase 4 of 16 years;
2nd highest monthly increase 7 of 16 years;
3rd highest monthly increase 3 of 16 years;
That would be 14 of 16 years where the February to March change in median was either the highest, second highest, or third highest such monthly change for the year.
The worst showing for March was 6th highest.
And where do we go from here? All indications would point to a strong showing for April too.
April had:
The highest MoM median change in 8 of 16 years;
The 2nd highest in 2 of 16;
The 3rd highest in 2 of 16;
The 4th highest in 4 of 16;
May becomes less predictable, but usually still pretty strong…with 10 of 16 years in the top 4 monthly median changes.
If you measure a rolling 3 month change, you find that March-May is the strongest three month period in terms of changing median prices in 10 of 16 years, and second highest in 5 of 16 years.
In fact, the seasonality in median is so strong for these three months that it masked the collapse in home prices in 2008, where the median only fell by 0.1% during these three months that year.
Every other year (including 2009 and 2010), the median increased the three months ending May.
Yes, the change in median from March to May will look strong.
It does NOT mean that these three months are an indicator of what happens to the median for the whole year.
Home sales actually fell in March compared to February.
But they are still up something like 10% YOY.
And still at 1997 levels…
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/22/news/economy/home-sales/
Home sales up 10% from a year ago!
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“Home sales slipped slightly in March, according to the latest reading from the National Association of Realtors, but were at much stronger levels than a year ago.
The Realtors’ report on the sale of previously owned homes Monday showed the annual sales rate in March came in at 492,000, down 0.6% from February, but up 10.3% from a year ago. “
I really really want to buy a $500,000 starter home in Sacramento but the mean old banker said my $12/hour call center job won’t qualify me for a mortgage. Life’s not fair!
Psssst I know where you can get that $14 hr job to qualify……Its cleaning up the poop in pet cages at Petland….no joke
But is that 40 hrs a week or 20 hrs?
good question…i guess its until you finish…its a very big store..
Yet demand is still at 17 year lows and dwindling. Especially in California.
Funny article about my ‘hood and generally what happens when a formerly sleepy area becomes gentrified. (Short version: more young people and more bars/pubs = conflict between oldsters and youngsters. The older people launched a website to post pictures of people they find pissing in alleys, for example.) A+ for the title of the article as well.
http://baltimoreguide.com/http:/baltimoreguide.com/cantonites-are-seeing-yellow/
“Cantonites are seeing yellowWritten by The Baltimore Guide on April 17, 2013 in Featured, Neighborhood News - 3 Comments Excessive imbibers, big drinkers with small bladders, and public urinators of all stripes be advised—somebody’s watching you, and it’s not a pretty sight.
Last month, a few Canton residents, fed up with people peeing in their flower pots, on their walls, and on their cars, launched Yougotcaughtpissing.com, a Web site devoted to shaming public urinators and drawing attention to the problem of peeing in public places.
The group members, who prefer to remain anonymous, characterize themselves as a grassroots movement that wants to take their community back from, well, the pee-ers.
The videos on Yougotcaughtpissing.com are recorded and posted by contributors from all over the city.
Recent videos from Opening Day show exhibistionic Os fans relieving themselves in front of a crowd at the ball park—and a young woman emptying her bladder in the stands.
Yougotcaughtpissing.com’s founders feel that public urination in Baltimore is a serious problem, and one not taken seriously by the city government.
“On May 6, a meeting is planned at Du Burns Arena titled ‘Addressing the trash problem in Canton,’ while the epidemic of public urination is largely ignored,” writes Yougotcaughtpissing.com’s spokesman.”
Oops, forgot to change my name when posted = selfpwned.
I admit posting a few times as Jingle Male above. I am not *the* Jingle Male, I was just channeling him today when I read that ridiculous article about YoY sales being up.
The article about the neighborhood and the “caught pissing” website is about my neighborhood, not Jingle’s.
I got caught with my hand in the cookie jar, so embarassing.
That’s pretty bad, Joe. How do we know you’re not Jingle Male? I don’t recall him complaining about anyone posting under his name.
It makes me wonder if during periods when I have not been posting Joe had been using my name.
Oh please, I was trying to chum the waters for RAL today. Unfortunately it appears he hasn’t come to take a bite yet.
As far as me using anyone else’s name at other times, if you care enough do a search, but it’s not something I generally do. When I read that article about YoY sales being up, I couldn’t resist using it as RAL bait.
RAL is old school, since from the days of David Lereah and Bubble 1.0, the OG bubble.
Respect.
OT
RIP, Chrissy Amphlett. Class act, awesome tunes.
Wow. That’s truly unfortunate:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/divinyls-leader-singer-chrissy-amphett-dead-53-19013207#.UXWOTsWGNDE
I always had to snicker at “I touch myself”, although it did have catchy tune. “All the boys in town” was a great song though, and an early MTV fave of mine.
Dang! She was hot at the peak of Divynals. Her singing of all the boys in town and the mtv video made me wish she was my girl
If you want to understand why the government and central bank have the real estate-related policies they do, simply take a quick glance at the following chart:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/
House prices skyrocketed due to bad lending. Then the government stepped in to maintain prices at bubble levels.
Government supported, bubble level house prices are nothing but transfer payments to the FIRE sector.
As some of us have been saying all along.
Washington State Housing Prices Headed Lower
http://picpaste.com/pics/17c52b168bba17c3c93eb46f5505ef39.1366424283.png
a home and some stocks will take you to riches never before seen.
An oldie but a goodie: “What’s the best way to make a small fortune in real estate? Start with a large one.”
On Meet The Press yesterday, Doris Kearns Goodwin made the point that despite the fact that 90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks, in addition to the president, it failed to pass even the Democrat-controlled Senate.
Of all the discussion on the subject, only Goodwin, and only in passing, made the observation of the power that special interests have in the federal government. It really does seem like they’re doing their best to avoid noticing the emperor’s new clothes.
Browse the “Cabela” website sometime. Lots of old big money companies in camping, fishing, hunting, etc., so don’t expect “slash-n-burn” gun laws during a downturn of this magnitude. That Sandy Hook mom was receiving $9k/month in alimony, so no excuse for not keeping her weapons locked away in a gun safe. Nobody is forced to walk to work because an alcoholic used an automobile to kill innocent victims.
That Sandy Hook mom was receiving $9k/month in alimony
If so, she had plenty resources to do differently. As it was, she got what she got.
Everything with a dollar-denominated price rallied like crazy today — even Bitcoin!
“What’s Going On Here?” indeed!
Bitcoins back above $120 as wild swings continue
April 22, 2013, 12:18 PM
Bitcoin prices have rebounded from a sharp downturn earlier this month, and are back above $120, notes Nicholas Colas at ConvergEx.
The electronic currency, which Colas calls “the Esperanto of money,” saw its prices surge as high as $260 earlier this month, before plunging to around $60 over a period of 6 days, he notes.
“Investing in bitcoin has been a white-knuckle ride so far, and nothing in its near future points to a different trajectory,” Colas said. However the currency is beginning to attract the attention of venture capitalists raising some interesting possibilities.
VCs will have three ways to profit, according to Colas: exchanges, service offerings for individuals, and service offerings for businesses.
In the end, the venture funds “must address the security issues of the system first, and then work on making bitcoin a relevant currency for global financial transactions.”
But the entire experiment, which can still end in disaster for investors continues to illustrate some startling truths including that “Trust in technology can trump belief in government institutions, even in notionally free societies.”
– Tom Bemis
If you haven’t checked out Oil City lately…
http://www.zillow.com/homes/Oil-City-PA_rb/2.0-_baths/3-_beds/
202 W 1st St looks really nice.
At $21/sf it is almost a good deal and not an incalculable loss.
Yeah, when I see prices like that, I imagine a bunch of artists invading. Why is that not happening?
Seriously, if I was in my twenties, I would move to Oil City with a bunch of friends and go nuts.
What would you do for a living?
Hmm…
Martial Law looks like fun.
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
Steve Watson
April 22, 2013
The video, shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of their own home. They are then ordered to run down the street to be further frisked by police as scores of armed militarized cops look on.
The story floated in the mainstream media that the door to door searches were conducted with the voluntary consent of the residents of Watertown is clearly false. 9000+ Police locked down an entire city and went in with full force, with armored vehicles and combat gear, all to search for an injured 19 year old kid who turned out to be cowering in someone’s back yard.
http://www.infowars.com/shocking-footage-americans-ordered-out-of-homes-at-gunpoint-by-swat-teams/ - -
The events in Boston last week were a trial balloon. The statists are quite pleased that the capture of the 19yo bomber was met with cheers of “USA! USA!” despite the suspension of the 4th Amendment.
The Reichstag is burning…
capture of the 19yo bomber
I don’t care if he was 19 minutes old. What difference does his age make if he did the bombing?
the capture of the 19yo bomber
WARREN OHIO: A teenager who wore a T-shirt with “killer” scrawled across it and gestured obscenely at his sentencing has appealed his life prison term for killing three students in a school cafeteria.
The court-appointed attorney for T.J. Lane, 18, filed the appeal Thursday with the 11th Ohio District Court of Appeals challenging his sentence handed down in Chardon last month. The brief filing also cited the decision moving his case to adult court.
Lane was 17 at the time of the shooting rampage in February 2012.
I loved the last line of that article - “This is what fully fledged martial law in America looks like.” Fully fledged martial law in America is confined to one town and lasts less than 24 hours. Somehow I thought it would be worse than that.
“Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams”
Certainly looks excessive given our fourth amendment. I’m sure this story is quietly developing energy.
Present-day Federal Reserve Notes are not backed by convertibility to any specific commodity, but only by the legal requirement that they are issued against collateral.
arent they really back by black gold?
Sales of existing homes unexpectedly fell 0.6% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.92 million in March, the National Association of Realtors reported Monday. Analysts had been expecting an increase of 5.03 million homes. February existing home sales were revised down to 4.95 million from an original estimate of 4.98 million.
The numbers in March continue to point to a healthy housing recovery: existing home sales are up 10.3% compared to a year ago and the median home price in March ($184,300) is nearly 12% higher than it was in March 2012. Last month also marks the largest year-over-year price growth since November 2005.
Related: Toll Brothers CEO: ‘Housing Recovery Is the Real Deal This Time’
David Rosenberg, chief economist and strategist at Gluskin Sheff, says growth in the housing market could be slowing. He notes that first-time buyers are still hesitant about taking on mortgage debt and their absence from the market is the “missing link” in the recovery.
“Most of this recovery in the housing sector is probably behind us,” Rosenberg tells The Daily Ticker. Sales will “probably level off for the next several months” which is not “the worst thing in the world.”
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First-time buyers accounted for 30% of existing home sale purchases in March versus 33% just one year ago. Even with mortgage rates sitting at historical lows – the 30-year fixed rate was 3.57% in March – potential new buyers are choosing to sit on the sidelines as institutional investors and hedge funds briskly snap up available properties.
With apologies to Office Space:
And now, a word from the president!
Damn it feels good to be a banksta
Gettin voted into the white house
Everything lookin good to the people of the world
But the mafia family is my boss
So every now and then I owe a favor gettin’ down
Like lettin’ a big drug shipment through
And send ‘em to the poor community
So we can bust you know who
So voters of the world keep supportin’ me
And I promise to take you very far
Other leaders better not upset me
Or I’ll send a million troops to die at war
To all you republicans, that helped me win
I sincerely like to thank you
’cause now I got the world swingin’ from my nvts
And damn it feels good to be a banksta
Another day, another foiled attempted terrorist attack on North American soil…
Police: 2 Arrested in Al-Qaida Linked Canada Plot
VIDEO: Criminal investigation reveals plot targeting Toronto railway.
Canadian Officials Stop Terror Plot
By CHARMAINE NORONHA and ROB GILLIES Associated Press
TORONTO April 22, 2013 (AP)
Two men were arrested and charged with plotting a terrorist attack against a Canadian passenger train with support from al-Qaida elements in Iran, police said Monday. The case bolstered allegations by some governments and experts of a relationship of convenience between Shiite-led Iran and the predominantly Sunni Arab terrorist network.
Chiheb Esseghaier, 30, and Raed Jaser, 35, had “direction and guidance” from al-Qaida members in Iran, though there was no reason to think the planned attacks were state-sponsored, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Assistant Commissioner James Malizia said. Police said the men did not get financial support from al-Qaida, but declined to provide more details.
“This is the first known al-Qaida planned attack that we’ve experienced in Canada,” Superintendent Doug Best told a news conference. Officials in Washington and Toronto said it had no connections to last week’s bombings at the Boston Marathon finish line.
The arrests in Montreal and Toronto raised questions about Iran’s murky relationship with the terrorist network. Bruce Riedel, a CIA veteran who is now a Brookings Institution senior fellow, said al-Qaida has had a clandestine presence in Iran since at least 2001 and that neither the terror group nor Tehran speak openly about it.
“The Iranian regime kept some of these elements under house arrest,” he said in an email to The Associated Press. “Some probably operate covertly. AQ members often transit Iran traveling between hideouts in Pakistan and Iraq.”
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Tomorrow should be another blowout rally day on Wall Street?
How do I know?
1. China’s growth is slowing.
2. Oil prices and other commodity prices are falling as a result.
3. Used home sales are falling in the U.S.
4. The Eurozone? Fuggetaboutit.
1. + 2. + 3. + 4. = OKRA!
Oil price falls toward $88 a barrel after Chinese manufacturing growth decelerates in April
Published April 23, 2013
Associated Press
BANGKOK – The price of oil fell Tuesday after a slowdown in China’s manufacturing added to the outlook for subdued demand.
Benchmark oil for June delivery was down 60 cents to $88.59 per barrel at midday Bangkok time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The expired contract for May rose 75 cents to finish at $88.76 a barrel on Monday.
HSBC Corp. said Tuesday the preliminary version of its monthly purchasing managers’ index declined to a worse-than-expected 50.5 in April from March’s 51.6 on a 100-point scale. Readings above 50 indicate expansion.
“It’s another piece in the jigsaw that adds to the potential scenario of moderating growth in China, and the manufacturing sector in particular, and is probably driving things a bit lower at the moment,” said Ric Spooner of CMC Markets in Sydney.
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China’s Recovery Falters as Manufacturing Growth Cools: Economy
By Bloomberg News - Apr 22, 2013 8:28 PM PT
China’s manufacturing is expanding at a slower pace this month on weakness in global and domestic demand, fueling concern that the world’s second-biggest economy is faltering.
The preliminary reading of 50.5 for a Purchasing Managers’ Index (EC11CHPM) released by HSBC Holdings Plc and Markit Economics compared with a final 51.6 for March. The number was also below the median 51.5 estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 11 analysts. A reading above 50 indicates expansion.
China’s stocks slumped as the data added to an unexpected slowdown in economic growth, reported last week, that prompted banks including Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to cut full-year forecasts. In Washington, central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan said April 20 that a 7.7 percent first-quarter expansion was reasonable and “normal,” highlighting reduced expectations after 10 percent-plus rates during the past decade.
“This paints a picture of a continued painfully slow recovery for China’s manufacturing sector,” said Yao Wei, a Societe Generale SA economist based in Hong Kong. “The government needs to help translate the easy liquidity conditions into real growth.”
President Xi Jinping’s officials are grappling with constraints on export demand, property-market overheating, the risks associated with a surge in so-called shadow banking, and weakness in consumption because of a campaign to rein in official perks such as spending on banquets.
The Shanghai Composite Index fell 2 percent as of 11:24 a.m. local time.
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Existing U.S. Home Sales Fall on Limited Inventory: Economy
By Alex Kowalski - Apr 22, 2013 1:12 PM PT
Existing Home Sales Unexpectedly Fall 0.6% in March
Previously owned U.S. home sales unexpectedly dropped in March as a lean supply of properties kept the industry from generating a stronger recovery.
Purchases (ETSLTOTL) of existing houses, tabulated when a contract closes, fell 0.6 percent to a 4.92 million annual rate, figures from the National Association of Realtors showed today in Washington. The median forecast of 75 economists surveyed by Bloomberg projected sales would increase to a 5 million rate.
A decline in the availability of distressed homes and still-tight access to credit are holding back buyers, impeding progress in a real-estate market that’s been a source of strength for the economy. Bigger gains may emerge when rising property values encourage more Americans to put their properties on the market.
“Despite some little turbulence, the residential housing market is still improving,” said Christophe Barraud, an economist at Market Securities-Kyte Group in Paris, who correctly forecast the rate of purchases. “We’re in a transition mode where distressed sales are falling and conventional sales are growing, which means stagnation in total home sales. This situation is not problematic because it shows the market is returning to normal.”
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“We’re in a transition mode where distressed sales are falling and conventional sales are growing, which means stagnation in total home sales. This situation is not problematic because it shows the market is returning to normal.”
Wait, I thought we were headed until full parabolic momentum play?
Asian shares, commodities rattled by weak China PMI
By Chikako Mogi
TOKYO | Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:37am EDT
(Reuters) - Asian shares and other more risky assets fell back on Tuesday while the yen rose broadly after the HSBC “flash” PMI reading showed manufacturing growth in China slowed in April, underscoring market concerns about global growth prospects.
The preliminary or “flash” HSBC Purchasing Managers’ Index for April fell to 50.5 in April from 51.6 in March. It was still stronger than February’s reading of 50.4 but a contraction in new export orders pointed to fragile global demand.
The HSBC report was China’s first economic indicator for the second quarter and followed weaker-than-expected growth in first-quarter gross domestic product reported earlier this month, which triggered a sharp market sell-off last week.
“No doubt the market was hoping for a PMI reading closer to 51.5 and while the 50.5 result today is not disastrous, it does reinforce market concerns about the state of growth in the Chinese economy at the moment,” said Tim Waterer, senior trader at CMC Markets in Sydney.
“I am not surprised at the downward reaction by risk assets … Because a lot of the market rally so far in 2013 has been premised on a strong Chinese economic recovery, this takes away some of that buying enthusiasm.”
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Europe at wit’s end over austerity?
Financial Times
By Peter Spiegel and Peter Ehrlich
updated 11:12 PM EDT, Mon April 22, 2013
The Euro logo is seen in front of the European Central bank ECB in Frankfurt/Main, Germany, on April 4, 2013.
(Financial Times) — Europe may have hit the political limits of how far it can go with austerity-led economic policies because of the growing opposition in the eurozone’s recession-hit periphery, the European Commission’s president said on Monday.
José Manuel Barroso said that while he still believed in the need for sweeping economic reforms and drastic cuts in budget deficits, such policies needed to have “acceptance, politically and socially”, which was now at risk.
“While this policy is fundamentally right, I think it has reached its limits in many aspects,” Mr Barroso said. “A policy to be successful not only has to be properly designed. It has to have the minimum of political and social support.”
Mr Barroso’s comments come as advocates of the eurozone’s austerity-led crisis response are on the defensive following a voter revolt in Italy, a deepening recession in much of the bloc and the tarnishing of a highly-influential academic treatise arguing high government debt severely hinders economic growth.
Mr Barroso’s views are particularly influential because the commission has sweeping new powers to rule on whether struggling eurozone countries are able to ease up on belt-tightening.
His remarks came the same day Eurostat released data showing debt in many struggling eurozone countries continues to rocket despite unprecedented budget cuts and tax increases.
Of the four eurozone countries receiving rescue aid from the EU last year, only Greece saw its debt levels decrease, from 170 per cent of economic output in 2011 to 157 per cent — still the highest in the EU.
Irish, Spanish and Portuguese debt levels all hit euro-era highs last year, with Portugal close to surpassing Italy as the second most indebted nation in the eurozone. Lisbon’s debt jumped to 124 per cent of gross domestic product from 108 per cent, narrowly behind Rome’s, which rose from 121 per cent to 127 per cent. Overall, eurozone sovereign debt rose to 90.6 per cent of GDP last year, the highest on record.
The report also highlighted the periphery’s divergence from the eurozone’s core, particularly Germany, which was the only EU country to post a budget surplus in 2012 but also saw its debt level remain flat for the third straight year.
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Gold rally, we scarcely knew thee…