Rand Paul did a 180, he’s ok with domestic use of drones now. On fox news he gave the example of cops should be able to use a drone to find and kill someone accused of robbing a liquor store.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 06:06:57
Some of Paul’s exact words from the interview: “So, most of the time, you get a warrant, but if someone’s actively running around with a gun, you don’t need a warrant. That’s the way the system works.”
Ron Paul is just saying what everyone knows, that eventually DHS will go after the teabilly gun people with impunity. Having a gun will become a “green light” to law enforcement and the feds.
My astonishment was towards his comment regarding the 7-11 stick-up man. if a guy comes out of 7-11 with $50 bucks and a gun he doesn’t care if a cop shoots him or a drone blows him up? Last I checked robbery was a felony that wasn’t in the death sentence category. Apparently though, since we had a recent terror event, we are all losing our minds and common sense.
There will be money to be made in the counter-drone technology field.
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Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-24 06:25:47
Pointing a gun at a cop has always been an instant death sentence if their aim is any good.
Long before you and I were born.
Comment by Ryan
2013-04-24 06:31:05
Point taken, maybe it is better for drones to handle criminals
POTUS deciding to send a drone to kill you while your sleeping in your bed in the middle of the night is much different than local police sending a drone to kill you while you are sitting in a bell tower with a long gun murdering students on the quad.
get your heads out of your ass people.
Comment by michael
2013-04-24 06:50:56
not that i think local police departments need drones (as illustrated by the Boston PD)…but just saying.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 06:53:05
eco, no one was talking about using the gun or pointing the gun at anyone. The question was simply possessing a gun. Committing a crime while possessing a gun makes it a felony in many cases. In many cases even the appearance of a gun (or fake gun) or claiming to have a gun is enough to charge a felony. It’s already a slippery slope. And now, we have the only guy who filibustered domestic drone use coming on board with the idea of using them for local/state matters.
His claim that “oh, they’re just for tracking down criminals, not for snooping” is laughable. He knows this isn’t the case, any technology that law enforcement has will be used aggressively and, sometimes, misused.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-24 08:19:42
No difference. If you even so much as show a gun in the progress of crime, you will be shot if you do not immediately comply with the cops.
Again, that’s been the law long before you and I were born.
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-24 13:22:42
Many out of uniform policeman have been killed by this thought.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 06:25:35
I meant Rand Paul, not Ron.
Ron is still against drones. Which is one of many reasons the GOP won’t let him speak for them, appear in the Presidential debate, speak at the convention (unless he submitted to them and endorsed Romney), etc.
Rand is the one who is now OK with drones.
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Comment by it's hard out here for a pimp
2013-04-24 11:47:53
Rand is the one who is now OK with drones.
So Rand kisses the “ring” so that he gets a chance in 2016 presidential election?
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-24 13:23:59
Sooner or later those drones are going to kill a sympathetic person.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-24 13:42:58
Try sooner. Drone-striking a wedding is going to look a LOT different when it’s American family, friends, and baby pictures that wind up on the Today show.
Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-24 14:13:55
Try sooner. Drone-striking a wedding is going to look a LOT different when it’s American family, friends, and baby pictures that wind up on the Today show.
If it isn’t whitewashed, or worse, it gets blamed on “terrorists”.
Fear the MSM. Turn off the news, turn off those crappy tv shows and spend time with family, friends, or just get in tune with life: read some good books, listen to good music, get some physical activity and your perspective on how you see your world will change and so will your anxiety level.
Thank God for them because without them we would be Nazi Germany….Thousands & Thousands of new laws passed every year… Criminalize everything…And if its not criminal, then we will just charge you a fee….The DA is suppose to be there to protect the people….All they are is a puppet for the criminal justice system…
I get the agrarian perspective Salinas…But for most people, thats not, and cannot be the real world….
It was with Neil Cavuto on FoxNews last evening. He made some extremely lame distinction like “law enforcement should use drones to look for crimes, but shouldn’t go snooping around” - ha ha ha ha ha, ya, because I’m sure law enforcemetn will limit themselves.
He said he’s fine with local and state law enforcement using drones. No trials needed, just as long as the police are pretty sure. No trial needed to prove a suspect is guilty of a crime, we should use drones to handle the problem.
He’s also said elsewhere that he will not filibuster again. He’s catching on that he has no chance to be a GOP Presidential or VP nominee if he is against drones.
I hope you are wrong. On Facebook just yesterday Rand Paul said he is still against the use of drones. I did not read enough to determine which context.
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Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 06:49:55
He’s against using drones to “snoop”, for example into people’s back yards. But he compares drones to using cameras or other methods to enforce laws. LOL @ him saying that a drone is like a camera in any way, shape, or form. Let’s see the for what it is, Rand would like to run for President and also have a leadership position within the GOP. Ron never cared about that very much, to him the ideas were more important. And not bending on his ideas cost him a lot within the GOP. He would’ve given Romney a serious run for his money for the nomination. Ron Paul was the *only* GOP candidate that people under 40 would actively support (I would’ve supported Huntsman too, but that is just me).
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2013-04-24 07:05:30
Gary Johnson had a live Q & A last night on YouTube. It was heartening to see mostly young people asking questions. I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012.
School Marm, Colorado, Alpha voted for Obama, which means they voted to give more work to Bill in Los Angeles. Retards. They must really love me by voti g for more work for me. And here I vote to get myself out of a job!
Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 07:09:43
Our LIEberals can’t handle the truth.
Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-24 07:24:13
Bill, that Washington DC routinely votes more than 80% Democratic AND is the wealthiest metropolitan area in the United States tells me all I need to know.
Leeches.
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2013-04-24 08:29:33
LOL @ him saying that a drone is like a camera in any way, shape, or form.
A drone _is_ like a camera—it is in essence a very very mobile camera.
I’m not opposed to using them as very mobile cameras. I am opposed to using them as tools to assassinate Americans in a manner contrary to the protections outlined in the Constitution. Rand’s statement about it not mattering if it is a drone or a cop in the “outside a liquor store with $50 and a gun” was clearly a poor choice of words; a cop shouldn’t shoot in that case unless the gun was aimed at someone.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 12:19:30
BiLA,
I just listened to that Gary Johnson Google hang-out in the background while I was doing some work. It wasn’t just “many” of the callers/participants who were young. They were all young. Almost every single participant was a young male, I’d save the average age was mid/late 20s. Which is not surprising because the GOP brand among millenials is basically s***. If the GOP had a clue, a lot of these people would support them.
Drones and other DHS systems/products will be everywhere…especially in the support and collection of taxes.
States will use them to tax people who purchased items out of state. And from garage sales. Or from bartering exchanges.
The IRS will use them to track down and arrest tax “cheats” despiute there being no law that says you must pay income tax.
The EPA will use them to chase down offenders, such as those who drive non-electric cars.
The Hunting & Fishing folks will do the same.
ObamaCare and single payer (which will come to pass as Obamacare ruins what already is mediocre) will track your food, liquor and smoke purchases…stating that your ObamaCare tax will increase x-fold if you choose to purchase items not on their “approved” list.
The possibilities for legalized theft are boundless. It’s why your government is all for drones.
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Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 07:44:10
You hit a bullseye Macbeth.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 12:24:00
If the drones take people out that drive five miles an hour below the speed limit in the passing lane, I can support them. (this is a joke for people that might use this post against me in the future).
Comment by Weed Wacker
2013-04-24 12:58:47
In the future the sky will be filled with so many drones it will nearly blot out the sun. Each of us will have a personally assigned drone following us around to make sure we don’t do or say anything the state doesn’t approve of. If you step out of line (or when) the drone immediately executes you as a terrorist and then flies off to find a newly born baby that doesn’t have a pet drone yet.
Comment by Steve J
2013-04-24 13:26:29
LOL!
You guys are forgetting how cheap drones are.
Anti-drone warfare will be here soon enough.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 14:04:08
Each of us will have a personally assigned drone following us around to make sure we don’t do or say anything the state doesn’t approve of.
Sounds like another symptom of cheap oil :-).
Comment by Weed Wacker
2013-04-24 14:23:31
I build my own drones for fun. It is a hobby. People have been building model planes and copters for decades. But suddenly, now there is all kinds of legislation popping up around this hobby. Because of use of drones by military your otherwise oblivious congresswoman seem to have become suddenly aware that such devices could be used for nefarious purposes. Thus, ordinary citizens must be restricted from having them.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 07:18:55
Bill, voting for either Romney or Obama would’ve kept you in business.
Gary J ran as a libertarian for a reason, he would not be accepted by national GOP party either.
I voted for Obama as a stupid emotional thing, because Romney was so personally disgusting. I bet many others did the same. If the GOP had run a less vomit-inducing candidate I probably would’ve voted for Gary J. Then again, look at that primary field the GOP had… the serious competition for Mittens were Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and Newt. LOL.
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Comment by MacBeth
2013-04-24 07:29:31
This does not compute.
You know full well, Joe, how D.C. and Maryland vote.
There’s no way Romney would have taken either in the general election. You could have voted for Johnson without worry. Unless you live inm Virginia.
Your answer isn’t good enough.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 07:44:25
Believe it or not, I used to be a Republican (granted, Republicans in Philly suburbs and central NJ are quite a bit different than the mouth-breathing variety the national party loves).
My vote for Obama really represents my disgust at what the party has become. The dumb party, the know-nothing party, the party that doesn’t offering real answers on economic questions and are a bunch of knuckle-draggers on social questions.
I admitted my vote was emotional, voting at all in Maryland is an act of vanity. Yes everyone knows that unless the GOP fields a good candidate MD is going blue. The last Republican to win MD’s electoral votes was George H.W. Bush, who would be labeled a RINO and cast out of today’s GOP because he was too smart, accomplished, and moderate on social issues. I voted against Romney more than for Obama. Voting for Johnson wouldn’t have given me the same satisfaction of laughing at the teabillies. I know that sounds stupid and I admit it kind of is stupid. But, again, in Maryland if I was doing the rational thing I wouldn’t bother voting at all. I already can’t vote in primaries in Baltimore because I refuse to register as a DEM and we have closed primaries.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 14:11:46
I would like to know the difference between Romney and George H.W. Bush, you act like they are a different species and I see them cut from the same cloth right down to being political royalty.
Rand Paul is proving to be a better politician than his father. See how he gained media coverage and points for standing up against the evil that wanted to use drones against Americans on American soil. Now after that dies down he flip-flops over to the other side to gain points with the Protectamericans crowd. An excellent political move, he will go far.
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Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 14:05:23
he will go far.
And be just as useless as the rest if he doesn’t stand for anything.
Comment by Weed Wacker
2013-04-24 14:27:02
Yeah, he is turning from someone I would have considered voting for into someone I would never consider voting for. But the opposite seems true for most of the voting populace.
Frontline was good last night, i saw about 2/3 before falling asleep. 401k’s started off as a tax dodge for the well off, not as a replacement or supplement to pensions. Most 401k plans are poorly run, the tax advantages are offset by fees and illiquidity (also rules about distribution) and the system is designed to benefit wall street. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
I was skeptical about that 32-year-old teacher who claimed she had $120K in retirement. But she seemed to live frugally… did you see that apartment complex she lived in?
Why be skeptical? I am 35 years old and have been saving since my first “real” job in 1999 and have more than that saved for retirement. I actually worry that I haven’t been saving enough.
The Bush Administration circa 2003 openly tried it. Dan Bartlett was on the news many times promoting “carve-outs” and similar ways to give fees to Wall Street.
The concept fell out of favor, but I don’t think Wall Street will ever stop lobbying to resurrect the idea. Imagine the infusion of OPM.
Sine my favorite president took office in 2009 my average annual gain in my 401k is above 14%. My 401k changed to another investment company on January 1 2009 so I do not know the AAR from before. I do not invest politically. If I did, I would be 100% in gold bullion, and I only consider that money, not an investment.
Apologies if my screed on boomers offended anyone our made me look more extremist than usual. Almost without exception, blb is very skeptical of power. My attempted point was to observe the contrast in the open minded, logical, and intellectual bent of 60s and early 70s culture and the turn for the worse this country took when boomers rose to take leadership positions. Boomers in power have been horrible, both parties, clinton sold out to corps just as much as W for example. I think it’s basically agreed that boomers sold the country out and created the problems that need fixing, just as people credit boomer parents as the greatest generation. This clearly want meant as an observation about a generation’s effect on the country as a group, not about individuals.
Another good contrast… Listen to “our house” by crosby still & nash. The perfect description of what a house should be. Now compare that to the cultural understanding of a house that took gold from Ray-gun onward. As a monument to “success”, a thing to “trade up”, and something to refinance/HELOC.
article from 1987 about david crosby’s addiction to cocaine and heroin and subsequent recovery. the equity withdrawal and spending economy of 2000 to 2007 was as sustainable and logical as a freebase addiction. there’s a reason we use the phrase ‘debt junkie’ on hbb.
Funny! I wrote a piece 20 years ago for giggles only about how Neil Young, Neil Diamond and Neil Sedaka were getting together as a group to record and tour. They’d be known as “NNN&Y”. Neil Young was quoted as saying something to the effect of, “I get to use both my names because I’m the most talented”.
The boomers. The Jews. The fundies. The liberals. The neo cons. The white males. The feminists. The blacks. The Latinos. The Asians. The gen x, the millenials. The Muslims. The rednecks, the socialists, the Californians. The Texans.
I’ll just make this point: no prior generations had as many tatoos, piercings, and apparel identifying your favorite consumptions as GenX and the millenials. Why the f do I have to see so many t-shirts with “Hollister” and “Famous Stars & Straps”, just to name two?
Even more amazing, the people who get them don’t appear to be very affluent. Which means that they’re saving up for new tats. Or that the parlors have one heckuva finance business going.
Where’s Bloomberg when you need him? If Bloomi decides against tatoos and piercings, he gets my vote. One tiny tatoo here and there is cute….I am not sure why so many people are just ruining their natural beauty?. At the mimimum, ladies, please please don’t do it.
“Boomers in power have been horrible, both parties, clinton sold out to corps just as much as W for example.”
You give boomers too much power. And you did not answer my question as to when you consider that boomers actually took the reigns of power.
I posted this late yesterday, so you may have missed it. In my calculations, I assumed that non-boomer years were 75% as large as boomer years.
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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2013-04-23 21:10:58
“The Boomers elected increasingly feckless politicians”
The boomers were not the only group that voted in elections. The Presidential election of 1984 was the first in which all of the boomers were eligible to vote. At that point, they represented less than 57% of the electorate (age groups 18-49. Boomers were actually 20-38). It was probably closer to 40% of the voters
Extrapolating for other years, in 1988 boomers represented about 45% (ages 24-42). In 1992, boomers were about 46%. The younger age groups voted more for Perot than the older age groups. Boomers were less than 50% of the voters in all other presidential elections.
“I think it’s basically agreed that boomers sold the country out and created the problems that need fixing, just as people credit boomer parents as the greatest generation.”
Who agrees with this statement? I sure don’t. It is lazy thinking.
What problems “need fixing”? What are your proposed fixes? Are your peers on board with them?
I could name a list of problems that need to be fixed, but I am interested in what your list is.
From Wikipedia:
Surveys by the University of Michigan’s Monitoring the Future study of high school seniors (conducted continuously since 1975) and the American Freshman survey, conducted by UCLA’s Higher Education Research Institute of entering college students since 1966 showed the proportion of students who said being wealthy was very important to them increased from 45% for Baby Boomers (surveyed between 1966 and 1982) to 70% for Gen X and 75% for Millennials. The percentage who said it was important to keep up to date with political affairs fell, from 50% for Boomers to 39% for Gen X and 35% for Millennials.
My son has noticed the focus on practical majors and career training by his college classmates. I expect that student loans and the economy play into this. Business is the new default major for those who don’t really know what they want to do.
Are post-boomers going to have the resources and energy to devote to fixing problems? Or are those generations’ one-percenters going to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else?
Are post-boomers going to have the resources and energy to devote to fixing problems? Or are those generations’ one-percenters going to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else? ”
I think they will reject the behavior of the largest generation and try and fix problems. just like the boomers tried to fix problems.
I think Obama being Elected was a “turning point” and for better or worse and I don’t think it will turn back.
Mayor Bloomberg: Interpretation of U.S. Constitution Will ‘Have to
Change’ Following Boston Bombings
By Billy Hallowell | The Blaze – 9 hrs ago
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg believes that the Boston Marathon bombings have created a unique scenario — one in which traditional interpretations of the U.S. Constitution must change. Rather than shying away from cameras and other security mechanisms that some view as infringements upon individual privacy, the politician claims that the most recent attack calls for a new paradigm.
As for those who fear government intrusion and express serious concerns about how these technologies and other policies could impede privacy, Bloomberg is sympathetic — but only to a point.
“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry, but we live in a complex world where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will,” Bloomberg said during a press conference on Monday. “And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”
He went on to note that we live in a dangerous world and that there are some who wish to take away Americans’ freedoms, the Observer’s Politicker reports. But in order to protect these sentiments, Bloomberg argued that more intensive security is necessary.
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
Steve Watson
April 22, 2013
The video, shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of their own home. They are then ordered to run down the street to be further frisked by police as scores of armed militarized cops look on.
The story floated in the mainstream media that the door to door searches were conducted with the voluntary consent of the residents of Watertown is clearly false. 9000+ Police locked down an entire city and went in with full force, with armored vehicles and combat gear, all to search for an injured 19 year old kid who turned out to be cowering in someone’s back yard.
if me and two other folks get killed in a terrorist attack 10 years from now…please don’t use it to “re-interpret” the constitution that applies to the other 313+ million.
He went on to note that we live in a dangerous world and that there are some who wish to take away Americans’ freedoms, the Observer’s Politicker reports. But in order to protect these sentiments, Bloomberg argued that more intensive security is necessary ??
I had a pretty lengthly conversation just last week on this with a couple of retired teachers…They lean left…I argued that given the fact that the FBI questiond this Boston Bomber guy there was obviously some suspision surrounding him…I contiued to say that since he was not an american citizen, and entering this country is a previlage & not a right that we should have just deported him…There answer back to me was, thats what you have in a open society…
So, Bloomberg has a good point….If, we are going to continue to be a “open society” letting people come here that are even “Anti American” and frequent Jehad networks then maybe we need the types of monitoring systems that he suggests…
You do get the feeling that tamping down on us will be one of the last actions checked off the list before they allow the poop to actually touch those fan blades.
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
And yet, we can’t deny a visa to someone who is not a citizen, who might check a box that indicates they are in a class of people we “can’t discriminate against.”
An out-of-state homeowner found out how much Traverse City values its trees when city officials hit him with an $11,550 fine for removing three large trees in the city’s right-of-way.
Stuart Walker of Louisville, Ky., and Deering Tree Service of Maple City together paid the fine without complaint after receiving a letter from the city attorney. Deering Tree Service removed two maples and an oak tree from the corner of East State and Franklin streets on Feb. 18. The trees were in city-owned property between the street and sidewalk.
“It’s very important that city residents understand that portion is city property, and you can’t trim or cut those trees in any way, shape or form without permission from the city,” said Mayor Michael Estes. “You can’t even plant a tree there without permission.”
Not just city residents need to know that. How about absentee homeowners and out-of-town contractors?
Walker could not be reached for comment.
Josh Deering of Deering Tree Service contends the two maples were rotten and unsafe, while the oak had a split and wasn’t shaped well. The owner wanted them removed and replaced with new maple trees. Deering said he didn’t realize he needed a permit to cut the trees.
“We’ve been cutting trees in the city for forty years,” Deering said. “We’ve gotten right-of-way permits, but in my mind we never needed to pull a permit to take down a tree in Traverse City.”
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Neighbor Deven Larrance said he wasn’t pleased to see the trees removed.
“I was pretty angry; that one on Franklin was a big old oak tree. It was beautiful,” Larrance said. “You would think a big outfit like that would know it needed a permit.”
Larrance said an older woman previously owned the home and her yard was both beautiful and meticulous. The current owners bought it and started to gut the inside of the house and removed the trees. They then apparently changed their minds and put the house back on the market.
“It’s a beautiful old house, and it’s going to be hard to find someone to buy a house that’s been gutted, with no trees,” Larrance said.
Ancestral wealth removes any natural selection pressure, and in America if you have money you are given more money. This results in spectacular combinations of wealth and stupidity.
It’s not only that. In the teen, twenties and for some wayward souls their whole lives Dear Daddy cleans up all their legal messes after them. The sense of boundaries the rest of us have had pounded in our heads whether gently through parental guidance or a little more intensely via the long arm of the law just never happened to them. Consequences are for the little people.
Who are these with that much money and stupid and how did they get it being that stupid?
I don’t know how they got that stupid, but there sure are a lot of them in the area of Grand Traverse Bay, which includes Traverse City and Leelanau County. It’s a popular place to retire, so popular the real estate and rents have been driven up to ridiculous heights. So high a cost of living that local school enrollments are shrinking since families who tend to have school age children tend not to live there.
Yet so stupid that in 2005 a newly built $7.5 million sewage facility sprang a major leak and spilled 150,000 gallons of partially treated sewage. The local paper reported
An engineer hired by the county to review the collapse said he could not find a single wall that had been properly constructed.
It’s estimated up to 1,000 pieces of structural steel were left out of three concrete tank buildings. The buildings also weren’t designed to the industry standard to prevent cracking.
The engineering firm that designed the structure acknowledged it didn’t know the standard “even existed.”
The supervisors of Garfield, Peninsula, East Bay, Elmwood and Acme townships recommended the county hire local engineering firm Gourdie-Fraser Inc., and its partner the Christman Company, to design and build the facility, though those firms didn’t supply the lowest bid.
Gourdie-Fraser had little experience in waste water treatment plants but its officials had relationships with the townships, their elected officials and the county’s Department of Public Works that spanned 20 years.
The tank building where a wall collapsed will be rebuilt from a new design. If more problems are found when that building is demolished, the two remaining tank buildings also may have to be replaced.
Gourdie-Fraser/Christman has pledged to cover all costs associated with facility reconstruction, though county officials didn’t require it to purchase a bond to guarantee the work.
So this is why so many new home developments have trees (typically, those awful Bradford pears, ‘natch) planted smack-dab in the middle of the front lawn.
For some reason, city ordinances never occurred to me…I just thought contractors and home owners were really stupid for ruining their front yards (both in terms of appearance and utility) by planting trees in such stupid places…like in the middle of the lawn.
I sure am a dolt sometimes.
I wonder if cities are moving “their” property lines closer to private homes as the years pass. Anyone?
In the city of San Jose you had to get a public hearing, and a $200. permit to cut dow “ANY” tree that was in your yard “ANYWHERE” if the tree had a circumference greater than (as I recall) 30″ two foot above the ground…Think thats a little bit of government intrusion into private property rights ??
Well, I can say that they recently modified that ordinance…Now, it is restricted to four distinct species of trees…Oak & Redwood being two that I recall….BUT, you still must get a permit AND pay the $200. tree removal permit…
The devil is always in the details as far as local land use regulations go.
In 2003-4 I re-did the drainage from my home’s rain gutters to the street by installing reinforced concrete drain lines from the house to the curb, rather than simple plastic pipe. The previously installed drainage pipe had been crushed by people driving on the strip between the street and my sidewalk — plus occasionally I drive my truck across my own front yard to unload building materials.
I used simple hand tools to do this, among them a winch tied to my truck bumper which I used to pull the concrete slabs up & away from portions of my sidewalk so I could run my concrete pipes under the sidewalk. I used the same method to slid the slabs back into very rough alignment.
By the time I was done I had nice thick strong and reliable drainage lines from my sump pump and rain gutters to the street, along with severely misaligned blocks of concrete sidewalk. The sidewalk had already been somewhat misaligned, but my DIY enthusiasm had made it much worse.
Then I discovered that I had violated local housing & zoning laws. By law my sidewalk and lawn between it and the street are jointly owned by my city & myself. Can’t disturb it without violating a law. The city condemned my sidewalk but didn’t find me in violation. Net result was I paid 50% of the cost of pouring a new sidewalk to completely replace it from my driveway to the next lot. I negotiated face to face with the concrete contractor to adjust the pour so my drainage to the street was left in working order, along with another pipe left open under the new sidewalk so that I could completely drain the south half of my yard.
No big deal. My share of the sidewalk was about $450. I also negotiated a new concrete driveway apron for myself to replace my severely misaligned original apron, this cost me $800. I think I got a pretty good deal and now enjoy a very good driveway and sidewalk. This comes in especially handy when I clear snow — very little shoveling is needed, I mostly scrape and shove the snow and ice to the side.
Your local authorities may not be as easy-going and tolerant as mine.
Now if we could only get bankers and politicians under the same rules…
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Ireland’s cash-strapped borrowers face ban on vacations, limits on food spending
Financial Post | 13 April 2013
Irish borrowers struggling to meet their loan repayments may be banned from taking vacations and face limits on how much they can spend on food under guidelines published by the country’s personal insolvency service.
Monthly individual living expenses for people seeking debt relief may be capped at 35.73 euros ($46.7) for clothing, 247.04 euros for food and 33.40 euros for personal-hygiene items, the Insolvency Service of Ireland said in Dublin today. Households in towns with “adequate public transport links” may not need a car, while private health insurance may also be banned, the ISI said.
The guidelines set a “standard of living that is based on needs, not wants, but it is more than survival and allows for meaningful participation in society,” the ISI said. “It should not be regarded as a standard of living for people in poverty.”
The food budget limitation is troubling as radiation, pipeline, and fracking accidents don’t always seem to take food production out of affected areas.
Piss poor areas aren’t known for the quality of their tenants.
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Comment by Bad Andy
2013-04-24 11:44:49
I imagine when they find out that rents barely cover expenses in these areas, they’re going to dump the houses right back onto the market.
I actually work with a guy who is playing the “bulk buy” game. At $35,000 per unit, how can you lose? Silly man…
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 12:36:02
Under sec. 8, it’s not uncommon to be able to collect $1000+ in monthly rent on a house that could be bought for 30-40k cash.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 14:17:41
We had a group pitch us on buying homes to rent in Detroit several years ago. Experienced guy…homes would be even less than $35k apiece (ISTR some at $10k, etc.).
No thanks.
Comment by PeakHubris
2013-04-24 22:19:18
“We had a group pitch us on buying homes to rent in Detroit several years ago. Experienced guy…homes would be even less than $35k apiece (ISTR some at $10k, etc.).
No thanks.”
If you’re black, 6′6″, and 300 lbs, no problem. If you’re a white dweeb, good fricking luck.
How government killed a rational housing market…
How government killed affordable higher education…
and
How Government Killed the Medical Profession
Reason | Apr. 22, 2013 | Jeffrey A. Singer
Government interventions over the past four decades have yielded a cascade of perverse incentives, bureaucratic diktats, and economic pressures that together are forcing doctors to sacrifice their independent professional medical judgment, and their integrity. The consequence is clear: Many doctors from my generation are exiting the field. Others are seeing their private practices threatened with bankruptcy, or are giving up their autonomy for the life of a shift-working hospital employee. Governments and hospital administrators hold all the power, while doctors—and worse still, patients—hold none.
Coding was one of the earliest manifestations of the cancer consuming the medical profession, but the disease is much more broad-based and systemic. The root of the problem is that patients are not payers. Through myriad tax and regulatory policies adopted on the federal and state level, the system rarely sees a direct interaction between a consumer and a provider of a health care good or service. Instead, a third party—either a private insurance company or a government payer, such as Medicare or Medicaid—covers almost all the costs. According to the National Center for Policy Analysis, on average, the consumer pays only 12 percent of the total health care bill directly out of pocket. There is no incentive, through a market system with transparent prices, for either the provider or the consumer to be cost-effective.
The persistence of price controls has coincided with a steady ratcheting down of fees for doctors. As a result, private insurance payments, which are typically pegged to Medicare payment schedules, have been ratcheting down as well. Meanwhile, Medicare’s regulatory burdens on physician practices continue to increase, adding on compliance costs. Medicare continues to demand that specific coded services be redefined and subdivided into ever-increasing levels of complexity. Harsh penalties are imposed on providers who accidentally use the wrong level code to bill for a service. Sometimes—as in the case of John Natale of Arlington, Illinois, who began a 10-month sentence in November because he miscoded bills on five patients upon whom he repaired complicated abdominal aortic aneurysms—the penalty can even include prison.
As doctors become shift workers, they work less intensely and watch the clock much more than they did when they were in private practice. Additionally, the doctor-patient relationship is adversely affected as doctors come to increasingly view their customers as the hospitals’ patients rather than their own.
In a nutshell, hospitals, clinics, and health care providers have been given incentives to organize into teams that will get assigned groups of 5,000 or more Medicare patients. They will be expected to follow practice guidelines and protocols approved by Medicare. If they achieve certain benchmarks established by Medicare with respect to cost, length of hospital stay, re-admissions, and other measures, they will get to share a portion of Medicare’s savings. If the reverse happens, there will be economic penalties.
A June 2012 survey of 36,000 doctors in active clinical practice by the Doctors and Patients Medical Association found 90 percent of doctors believe the medical system is “on the wrong track” and 83 percent are thinking about quitting. Another 85 percent said “the medical profession is in a tailspin.” 65 percent say that “government involvement is most to blame for current problems.” In addition, 2 out of 3 physicians surveyed in private clinical practice stated they were “just squeaking by or in the red financially.”
In the not-too-distant future, a small but healthy market will arise for cash-only, personalized, private care. For those who can afford it, there will always be competitive, market-driven clinics, hospitals, surgicenters, and other arrangements—including “medical tourism,” whereby health care packages are offered at competitive rates in overseas medical centers. Similar healthy markets already exist in areas such as Lasik eye surgery and cosmetic procedures. The medical profession will survive and even thrive in these small private niches.
In other words, we’re about to experience the two-tiered system that already exists in most parts of the world that provide “universal coverage.” Those who have the financial means will still be able to get prompt, courteous, personalized, state-of-the-art health care from providers who consider themselves professionals. But the majority can expect long lines, mediocre and impersonal care from shift-working providers, subtle but definite rationing, and slowly deteriorating outcomes.
We already see this in Canada, where cash-only clinics are beginning to spring up, and the United Kingdom, where a small but healthy private system exists side-by-side with the National Health Service, providing high-end, fee-for-service, private health care, with little or no waiting.
it’s not enough that we spend 18 percent of gdp on health care. we should be spending at least 30 percent. that’ll show all those socialists who’s number 1.
that’ll show all those socialists who’s number 1 ??
We already do show them with our military budget…Add to that budget everything that we spend in the criminal justice system from Drug enforcement to traffic citations…How many trillions is that ??
How much money was spent finding the kid in the boat ??
it’s not enough that we spend 18 percent of gdp on health care. …
It sounds like you must be straying from Drudge if you’re familiar with that 18% thing. You should get your news only from Drudge, Fox and other outlets approved by big business. Otherwise, your brain will become polluted by facts.
Is your sarcasm meter broken? We are trying to out-2banana the 2banana in our criticism of Obama, and so far we are winning!
Obama is a muslim.
Obama was born in Kenya.
Obama eats dog meat.
Obama takes alot of vacations.
Et cetera…
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Comment by MightyMike
2013-04-24 09:34:16
I saw the sarcasm and I was playing along with your online persona that loves Drudge, Fox, Rush, etc. Besides the dog meat and the vacations, don’t forget about all the czars that Obama appointed and his use of the teleprompter. Those are very important issues.
Comment by goon squad
2013-04-24 11:24:21
We read Drudge and we listen to Rush, but we don’t love them. We read and listen because we want to know where the people who do love them are coming from.
And we know very few liberals who have ever actually listened to Rush. When he says something “outrageous”, they only get the liberal media’s regurgitation of what he actually said.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 11:45:14
If you can listen to Rush for more than 15 minutes at a time you are better than I am. Of course, I cannot take more than 15 minutes of MSNBC at a time either. I try to understand all sides too but I really like to hear hard news and the BBC is the best I can find these days.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 11:57:18
Now that you mention it I can’t take Fox for more than 15 minutes even in the event that I agree with them. I don’t even try the stuff on the left…
Comment by Bad Andy
2013-04-24 12:05:20
MSNBC used to be a good time when W was in office. Now that their guy is in, it’s senseless and useless.
Comment by MightyMike
2013-04-24 13:09:48
I listened to Rush for a few minutes two months ago. I heard him call some Democrats statists. So now he’s jumped on that bandwagon. After years of talking about socialists, communists and Marxists with no effect he’s moved on to statists. He probably has interns scouring the dictionary looking for next word that ends in -ist.
Comment by oxide
2013-04-24 14:17:48
Progressivist?
But they’re going to have trouble turning “Progressive” into a negative. The other words can be traced to bad policies in Russia/Germany. Progressive is traced to… Teddy Roosevelt, he of the safe food and monopoly breakage (and rooting out corruption in the NYPD early on). Good luck, Rush.
And no, I can barely watch the TV “news” stations either. Stewart and Colbert seem to be the only ones that don’t turn me off.
PBS isn’t so bad either.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 14:30:00
So now he’s jumped on that bandwagon.
I figured he was driving it.
Comment by MightyMike
2013-04-24 19:36:35
I only listen to Rush a few minutes a month, so I’m no expert. However, the impression that I got was that statist was an exciting new word for him to use after getting tired of socialist. On the other hand, I’ve seen statist used on this blog for at least a couple of years now, so Rush is not a leader on this one.
That sounds entirely plausible, as any time Wall Street sees a private local transaction occurring on Main Street at affordable prices for both parties, they see an opportunity to inject massive amounts of easy-money financing to provide bubble riches to the supply side (e.g. higher education institutions) and bubble-debt destitution for the demand side of the transaction (e.g. debt-strapped college students). And it’s the Fed’s easy money in perpetuity policy which fuels the opportunity for Great Vampire Squids to get their blood sucking proboscis in on the action.
That’s just a conjecture; would love to see some evidence.
I find interesting the folks here who support government healthcare yet have a problem with government housing.
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RAL doesn’t promise to build us new free market bodies for $55 a sq ft after we get hit by a car or get sick. Nor can we rent a new one while the old one gets fixed.
See the difference?
In any case, I don’t think we speak too much here about government housing, but lots of (liberal - conservatives hate it of course) people seem to be just fine with section 8.
Government systems are ALWAYS designed to protect the 1%ers.
ObamaCare is designed to protect the 1%ers. So is single-payer.
Doubt me? Who gets the protection from government-run housing? You or the 1%?
People are stupid. Including those with pedigree college degrees.
(Unless they’re in on the take…which perhaps signals intelligence, but also no moral or ethical boundaries. But, hey - everyone else is doing it, so why shoudln’t I?)
does this mean pimp watch won’t be able to build my aspen ski chalet for 55 dollars a square foot?
‘even as u.s. housing rebounds from its worst downturn since the 1930s, production bottlenecks are pushing up building-materials costs, land prices are rising (so my lot in aspen will cost 6,000 and not 5,000?) and skilled labor ready to begin work is hard to find.
suppliers of glass, drywall and wood products, who reduced output during the slump, are testing the vigor of the rebound by boosting prices before committing to restore capacity.’
During the trough, I heard the costs of production builders as low as $38psf.
I’ve spoken to a couple of different guys on the industrial side of the business over the past few months. According to them, on an apples-apples comparison basis, costs to build industrial today are about what they were at the peak in 2007.
Tactic 1 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “Ad Hominem Insult”.
Just sayin’…
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 13:10:46
Industrial side of the business…ie. warehouses/distribution/flex space, etc. not housing. (both people are in a position to know quite well what it costs to build industrial properties)
Production Builders…ie. public homebuilders (Pulte, etc.)
Comment by scdave
2013-04-24 14:41:38
RAL never lets facts get in the way of his opinions…
Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 15:11:28
Liars never let truth get in the way of their housing religion.
“industrial”. lmao
Comment by oxide
2013-04-24 15:45:34
I imagine industrial building is a lot cheaper because it has a lot less plumbing and less wall material per sq foot? And I guess it’s easier to meet code for places where there are no sleeping quarters.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 16:11:53
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t cheaper–after all, most big warehouses only have 5-10% of their space as office. However, you also have to consider the overall size…most modern industrial distribution buildings have 28 foot clear heights (ie. stack product VERY high; lots of concrete in the walls), and modern sprinkler systems (ESFR), and in some cases, heavy floor load requirements (lots of concrete and steel under foot).
My point was simply this:
Construction costs, after falling considerably in 2008-2010 have rebounded, and in the case of industrial construction, are back to where they were in 2007.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 16:46:29
BTW Ox, whether the industrial is cheaper or not (as compared to building a basic house) really depends on what you are building. If you are building a massive building, intended for one user? Almost certainly cheaper per square foot.
However, if you are building a much smaller building that is intended to be for many different tenants (multiple bathrooms, lots of interior walls, etc.), it can easily be more expensive.
Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 16:58:51
LOL…
And you two clowns know this how?
Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 17:03:19
Construction costs, after falling considerably in 2008-2010 have rebounded
You can scream this fallacy all day long but it doesn’t make it truthful.
The truth?
Labor, down.
Div2 Materials down.
Div3 Materials down.
Div 4 materials down.
Div 5 materials flat.
Div 6 materials down.
Div 7 materials down.
Div 8 materials down.
Div 9 materials down.
Div 15 materials flat.
Div 16 materials flat.
And one more truth? You’re lying about your construction and contracting background.
Comment by macboy
2013-04-24 19:01:59
Tactic 6 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “When you have nothing of substance to offer in debate, cry ‘Liar’”
Tactic 1 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “”When you have nothing of substance to offer in debate, attempt to divert with Ad Hominem Insult” (as per… “clown”)
Just sayin’…
Comment by Pimp Watch
2013-04-24 19:18:51
HayMan.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 21:17:54
I have never claimed to be a contractor. Nor will I.
We invest in projects where we hire contractors. Construction costs are simply one part of the overall cost of a transaction (if we are developing new as opposed to buying existing). In our work, we have gotten to know lots of folks who perform construction management for major corporations, and people who are active at high levels at large real estate companies.
BTW, Zillow has updated their numbers as of the end of March. Check your “prices are collapsing” meme.
Considering that there were only like 20,000 people on food stamps the day GWB left office, and today there are over 50 million, yes it is a big ripoff.
Forward
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Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-24 12:34:38
IIRC, food stamp participation grew at a hefty clip under W’s watch.
“Unfortunately, Treasury officials have an insufficient understanding of factors behind failures, according to the report.”
Welcome to SIGTARP
The Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), a sophisticated, white-collar law enforcement agency, was established by Congress in 2008 to prevent fraud, waste, and abuse linked to the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program
“Troubled homeowners who received modified mortgages through a federal program are seeing high default rates, a troubling trend that officials inadequately understand, according to an investigator’s report released Wednesday.
The oldest permanent modifications made through the federal Home Affordable Modification Program, which launched in 2009, were redefaulting at a rate of 46.1% as of March 31, according to the report from the special inspector general overseeing the Treasury Department’s efforts to shore up the U.S. financial system. HAMP’s permanent modifications from 2010 have redefault rates ranging from 28.9% to 37.6%.
“The number of homeowners who have redefaulted on a HAMP permanent mortgage modification is increasing at an alarming rate,” the report said. “Treasury’s data shows that the longer a homeowner remains in HAMP, the more likely he or she is to redefault out of the program.”
Unfortunately, Treasury officials have an insufficient understanding of factors behind failures, according to the report.”
I expected this to happen a year from now. I am in the buying mode of quarter ounce American Eagles, so I am good for now. But another article about the enormous physical demand. I am predicting gold will go above $1800 spot price per ounce between now and the end of the year. ETFs are finished. When physical demand is the primary driver, the price plunges will be less severe than last week’s.
Japan is shaping up to be a ticking time bomb. They have already declared a currency war.
Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe declares Japan never started WWII.
“Abe told lawmakers on Tuesday that he does not believe Japan’s occupation of other Asian countries during World War II can be considered “invasions.”
Abe claimed there are no set international or academic definitions of the word. “It depends on the point of view of individual countries,” he said.”
For a sovereign country it can’t fail. As mentioned elsewhere on the blog they might try a reverse split and issue new Yen at a 10 to 1 exchange rate.
Abe is re-writing the Japan constitution. Taking out the parts about restricting their use of their military and adding in language that seems to be modeled after our 1798 Alien & Sedition Act where it makes it a federal crime to criticize the government. I noticed they don’t plan to let private citizens own weapons either.
Just hope your debt is in your local currency when the fiat currency fails. If Greece has the ability to print Euros it could have continued for many more years. Except for important distinction that we owe our debt in dollars, we are as broke as Greece. However, that distinction does not prevent the fall it only delays the fall.
People lose confidence in it because too much of the currency has been printed. Not worth a continental was a phrase from our history because during the Revolutionary war so much currency was printed that it became worthless. It did work for a while, it paid the troops, bought weapons etc. Bought the people that hung on to it lost all. After the war, the only way people were going to accept US money was if it was backed by gold or initially was made from silver or gold.
but were still here. seems like that confidence is key. once you lose it how do you get it back?
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 09:59:27
Only by backing it with something tangible. Honestly, it can be silver, palladium and platinum and does not have to be gold but gold has worked for thousands of years and can work again. I fully expect sometime in the near future either China or Russian will back its currency with gold and allow people to exchange the currency for gold and that will become the new reserve currency in the world and the dollar will plunge in value since it will not be used to set the price of oil, the new reserve currency will. When it happens I suggest we put Obama on our new one million dollar bill (which will have the buying power of a Benjamin) since he will have played the leading role in destroying the value of the dollar.
Comment by azdude
2013-04-24 10:09:51
hasnt oil backed the dollar since the 70’s?
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 10:24:48
Yes on an unofficial basis. When countries talk about accepting payment in something else like Iraq and Iran, they usual find themselves facing invasion. But correlation does not prove causation, I would not want to be labeled a conspiracy person by the board. Seriously, there is no prohibition in place at least that the public can see to using something other than dollars but we have clearly benefitted from the purchase of oil being cleared in dollars.
I know the FED buys bonds with digital dollars. Does it make a difference if they never actually print the money?
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Comment by Bluestar
2013-04-24 12:39:13
I want to see how long it will take to mop up all the old $100 bills. If the old bills disappear in just a few months that would lead credence to the idea that the FED digital printing has minimal effect on the money in circulation and inflation.
Something to watch this October.
I want to see how long it will take to mop up all the old $100 bills.
Just imagine what might happen if the Federal Reserve were to declare that all physical $100 bills printed before a certain year would lose their value at a given deadline unless & until exchanged for new $100 bills printed after the deadline.
All those bills piled up in drug runner’s vaults & similar unsavory places around the globe would have to be exchanged or to be somehow washed (and not digitally) in order to retain their value.
I think this could be done, although perhaps some laws would have to be changed. It wouldn’t affect me in the least. I don’t use $100 bills, or if I did, exchanging them would not be a problem.
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 14:33:38
It would be one way to destroy the 6 billion(?) in cash missing in Iraq.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-24 14:41:22
It would be one way to destroy the 6 billion(?) in cash missing in Iraq.
It would be a GREAT way to do that.
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 15:25:14
I could never figure out why we did not do that the last time we changed the $100 bill. Iran and North Korea were counterfeiting the bills so it made sense.
From the article: “A former colleague of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke has given up trying to persuade his fellow central bankers in Sweden to cut interest rates.
Svensson, who taught together with Bernanke at Princeton University more than a decade ago, has spent the years since the onset of the global financial crisis arguing that Sweden’s failure to spur inflation has killed jobs. Annual headline inflation accelerated to zero in March from minus 0.2 percent a month earlier and has been below target since January 2012.”
And then it occurred to me how the Fed is wrong on inflation: Inflation doesn’t create jobs, it’s a side effect of a hot economy. Economists see the Philips curve, and they think, “Wow, look at that. High inflation correlates with low unemployment. I guess that means high inflation causes low unemployment.” A classic post hoc ergo proper hoc logical fallacy (”Because of this, that”). I’m not the first to reach this conclusion.
There are two types of inflation - demand-pull, when high demand drives prices higher, and cost-push, when higher costs drive prices higher. The Fed’s money printing hopes to generate the latter type.
Inflation doesn’t create jobs, but high employment does create inflation.
Of course, the “high inflation to create jobs” meme might just be a canard, and the real desire for inflation is the desire to inflate away the debt to a more desirable level. The “stealth tax” angle.
The government thinks inflating away people’s currency in bad times will force them to spend. No, it forces them to restrict spending even more , while the financial companies engage in speculation with the excess liquidity. The people are already spooked and in damage control mode. And expecting them to get into risky assets which are already frothy doesn’t make sense. And companies don’t spend money for fun. They spend it when they see demand for their product. So they too are sitting on their record stacks of cash, in damage-control mode. With inflation or deflation, if a company sees an opportunity to increase profits, it’s going to spend. If it doesn’t see that, it won’t.
If however, they were to spark a strong inflation with no end in sight, then people would likely start buying anything they could get their hands on. So, low inflation might cause them to pull back even more, whereas high inflation might drive them to spend like the Fed wants. But that would cost most politicians their jobs:
“The flight from currency that had begun with the buying of diamonds, gold, country houses, and antiques now extended to minor and almost useless items — bric-a-brac, soap, hairpins. The law-abiding country crumbled into petty thievery. Copper pipes and brass armatures weren’t safe. Gasoline was siphoned from cars. People bought things they didn’t need and used them to barter — a pair of shoes for a shirt, some crockery for coffee. Berlin had a “witches’ Sabbath” atmosphere. Prostitutes of both sexes roamed the streets. Cocaine was the fashionable drug. In the cabarets the newly rich and their foreign friends could dance and spend money. Other reports noted that not all the young people had a bad time. Their parents had taught them to work and save, and that was clearly wrong, so they could spend money, enjoy themselves, and flout the old.”
But, if the central banks wishes to create an environment where the currency is losing value so it’s better to buy junk now - that is playing with political fire.
We’ve got five years of data. We’ve got central banks driving economic policy, and their view is more debt is the key to economic growth, as a global debt crisis continues to smolder. They’re banks, and they have a bank-centric view, they can’t help it. Their focus is on the banks and the financial sector. And that’s doing fine, buying and selling logical constructs, with their rich Uncle Fed spending money on them and ready to bail them out should things go south.
Bernanke’s has degree from MIT. He’s a smart guy. He said that aggregate statistics can mask important details. But he’s a creature of the economic orthodoxy. And the orthodoxy says that more inflation means more employment. However, I find it hard to believe someone like him and Krugman would mix up cost-push and demand-pull inflation. And mistake what is the driving variable (employment), and what is the dependent, resultant variable (inflation). I have to conclude all the inflation talk is an effort to reduce the value of the debt, under the cover of increasing employment happy talk.
Comment by Joe the patriotic bootstrapping IRA stuffer
2013-04-24 10:46:45
I’d guess that if 500/week is at the 45th (or so) percentile, then the true 50th % isn’t that much higher. A normal distribution is very “bunched” around its midrange.
Comment by ecofeco
2013-04-24 12:57:14
72 million would roughly equal 47% of 156 million.
You would be right.
Again, median and avg income stats mean nothing. They exist only to cloud the issue: that most Americans are poor and the middle class was (relatively) short lived.
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-04-24 14:23:56
How do renters come into play? People who live with their parents? People at the end of their careers with paid off houses, but collecting unemployment for as long as they can before they hang it up (don’t laugh, my uncle fits this category)?
I’ll say this again:
The median income household does not buy the median house.
If you make the simple assumption that in general, the higher your income, the higher the likelihood that you own a home, you can see pretty quickly that the median income/median home falls on it’s face.
In CA as an example, the homeownership rate is only about 54%. So, the median income is generally buying the lowest priced homes around in CA (probably the lowest 25% of homes).
I don’t think you can even buy a mobile home with that income any more.
A couple of days ago I talked with one of the laborers on my recently completed roof job. He lives within a reasonable of my home.
He said he had recently bought a used double-wide for $15,000. He lives there with his wife. His lot rent was about $200 a month, which included water, sewage and trash pickup. I just ran a spread sheet on my monthly expenditures for real estate taxes, water, sewage and trash pickup: $308. I consider his share of real estate taxes included in his lot rent.
I haven’t analyzed this further, but I think his housing is affordable.
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Comment by Carl Morris
2013-04-24 15:01:24
You can’t save money until you can give up on keeping up with the Jones, in every form that can take. As long as you have that need, they will use it to screw you out of every penny. As soon as you get over that need, you can find ways to live cheap.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-24 15:09:16
I just ran a spread sheet on my monthly expenditures for real estate taxes, water, sewage and trash pickup:
Correcting a mistaken spreadsheet entry, should read $203, the same as the laborer’s double-wide lot rental.
you know it always seems that when a currency fails they always follow it up by issueing another. your previous fiat is exchanged for the new fiat by you get fewer of the new bills.
Awesome. If you put these in West Delray Beach and price them at $300K, you’ll 74 of them in 2 hours.
As my comparison, it’s looking very 2005ish around here. Scary stuff.
Comment by In Colorado
2013-04-24 14:12:17
I found a house even you can afford:
LOL! That should work just fine with the new paradigm of a mobile workforce!
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-04-24 21:03:39
For the record, the reason we don’t buy a house isn’t because we can’t “afford” one; rather, it is cheaper to rent, especially if you factor in the housing price declines which I expect will occur once the Fed unwinds its balance sheet.
The Fed’s balance sheet rose to over $3 trillion in Q1 as quantitative easing goes into overdrive
The fed’s asset purchase program, also know as quantitative easing (QE) has swelled the Fed’s balance sheet from under $1 trillion pre-crisis to an all-time high of $3.2 trillion. The Fed has pursued this strategy in order to drive down long-term interest rates. The Fed is able to set rates at the short end of the yield curve directly by setting a target rate for the Federal Funds rate. However, they have historically been powerless to determine long term rates. Quantitative easing was the Fed’s answer to “What else can we do once interest rates are zero?”
In response to the crisis, the Fed first lowered short term interest rates, and then conducted “Operation Twist,” which was its first attempt to lower long-term interest rates. The Fed would sell its short-term Treasury notes and purchase longer dated Treasuries with the proceeds. The idea was that the Fed could maintain the same net financial exposure, while at at the same time push down longer term interest rates. After deciding that more needed to be done, the Fed pursued quantitative easing, by purchasing Treasuries and Mortgage Backed securities directly for its own balance sheet.
Two House Republicans have threatened to subpoena the Federal Reserve for nonpublic documents on how the central bank plans to wind down its more than $3 trillion bond portfolio without harming the nation’s economy.
In a letter viewed by the Wall Street Journal, House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) told Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke that they were frustrated at the lack of response to a February request demanding more details on the central bank’s strategy to unwind assets purchased during years of its easy-money stimulus programs. The lawmakers say Mr. Bernanke continues to “willfully withhold” sensitive documents the committee has requested.
“The American people have a right to know the true risks associated with the expansion of the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter dated April 22. “The Fed’s obstruction and lack of transparency must stop.”
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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-04-24 21:58:38
Not only bonds, but also stocks and housing, will crash when the Fed gets around to “unwinding the trade.”
And I have a true confession to offer: I have recently flouted the advice in this article by purchasing shares of a bond fund. Since it was before the gold and Bitcoin crash, it has gone up in value. This is a small share of my overall portfolio, and I totally realize I am picking up nickels in front of steam rollers, though I can also envision a scenario (suggested by FPSS last fall) where the strategy pays off.
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — “The best piece of advice I could give long-term investors today is don’t own bonds. And if you do own them, you probably ought to move out of them,” warns Charles Ellis, acclaimed author of the classic “Winning the Loser’s Game: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing.”
Get it? Do not own bonds. Sell. Move out now.
Sound familiar? You bet. Ellis’ warning came during a CNN/Money interview with Penelope Wang, just one month after the cover of InvestmentNews was screaming the same warning in huge bold type: “Tick, Tick … Boom!”
In that “special report on the impending crisis in the bond market,” InvestmentNews the newspaper of record for 90,000 professional advisers, I-News was predicting a “bond bomb” will explode, asking rhetorically: “What will your clients’ portfolios look like when the bond bomb goes off?” Answer: Bonds will crash, with huge loses.
When the Fed raises rates, your bonds could lose 25%.
Here are the numbers: “Right now the Federal Reserve is set on keeping rates down,” explains Ellis, because “the yield on a 10-year Treasury bond is under 2%. When yields go back to their historical average of 5.5%, an intermediate bond fund could go down 25% in value.”
Remember that warning when Bernanke and the Fed signal the next rate increase, because it is coming. And sooner than you think. But unfortunately, Wall Street insiders, 90,000 advisers and America’s 95 million Main Street investors with trillions in retirement accounts are in denial of that highly likely event … why else are the warnings getting so loud?
What happens after the crash? Investors will get hit hard: Ellis says “people who are putting their retirement money into [so-called] safe-bonds can get hurt badly,” echoing I-News warning “when the bond bomb goes off.”
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April 24, 2013, 10:53 a.m. EDT Everything you ‘know’ about the Fed is wrong
Commentary: 5 misconceptions about the effects of QE and monetary policy
By Mark Dow and Michael Sedacca
Reuters
Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke makes remarks at a news conference last month.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Few would still argue against the assertion that the Federal Reserve has been central to the financial stabilization and economic recovery from the 2008 crisis.
It fixed the plumbing and are now trying to incentivize animal spirits to pump water through the pipes. The debate has now migrated to exit strategies and whether the accumulating side effects of exceptional monetary accommodation outweigh incremental benefits. Read Minyanville’s “The Givers and Takers of the Boston Bombings.”
Nonetheless, it is the Fed, so views are heated, and many mis-perceptions persist. The concept of money-printing resonates strongly and intuitively with almost everyone, but most of the intuitive reactions to the Fed’s quantitative easing are turning out to have been wrong. Here are some of the major myths that linger.
Money printing increases the money supply
The Fed does not control the money supply; they control base money (or inside money), which is a small fraction of the broader money supply. In our fractional reserve system, the banks (loosely defined) control the other 90% or so of the money supply (a.k.a. outside money). And the banks have not been lending. This is why the money supply has not grown rapidly in response to years now of QE.
QE is ‘pumping cash into the stock market’
The truth is, little of this money finds its way into the stock market. When the Fed implements QE, they are buying low-risk U.S. Treasurys and agency mortgages from the market, mostly from banks. About 82% of the money the Fed has injected since QE started has been re-deposited with the Fed as excess reserves. With the remaining 18%, banks have tended to buy other fixed income assets of a slightly riskier nature — moving out on the risk spectrum for a bank doesn’t mean jumping into equities, especially given the near-death experience that most of them have just experienced.
… QE will create runaway inflation
“Yet” has become the favorite word of the inflationistas. As in, “Oh, it’ll come, just hasn’t yet.” And the magnitude of that expected inflation has been dialed down from “hyperinflation” to “high inflation.”
… QE is the reason we have high oil/gasoline prices
This very deeply held view is just as deeply mistaken. As the chart here shows, post crisis/post QE, oil prices on average (red line) have gyrated around $80 to 90 per barrel with no ascending trend. The ascending trend came well before we knew what QE even was, in the 2002-2007 period. And the most rapid phase of its rise took place as the Fed was raising rates from 2004-2006.
… QE has debased the dollar
Good luck convincing people this hasn’t been the case. This is an excellent example of repeating a falsehood until it becomes accepted as true.
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This chart shows the trade-weighted broad-dollar average. It, much like the oil chart referenced above, shows all the action took place before QE and the crisis. From 2002 to 2007, the Big Dollar, as currency specialists like to call it, depreciated some 20%. And the fastest depreciation came…that’s right, when the Fed was raising policy rates. Since the crisis oil has been roughly unchanged, with gyrations suspiciously similar to those of oil. Read Minyanville’s “Microsoft’s Solid Quarter Solidifies Rally.”
Bottom line
Anyone alleging debasement is working from hearsay and priors, not the scorecard. And there are some pretty high-profile people still throwing around the ‘debasement’ word.
In fairness, the Fed did assume that their exceptional monetary accommodation might result in some depreciation of the dollar. But because the U.S. is a closed economy (exports and imports make up a relatively small share of GDP) the Fed felt — correctly in my view — that it should be setting monetary conditions based on the larger domestic economy. And if dollar depreciation were to ensue, so the thinking went, it would at the margin be positive for U.S. growth, as long as the depreciation was orderly.
Why, then, did the dollar depreciate so much in the 2002-2007 period? For pretty much the same reasons that the price of oil went higher: It was a period of risk-taking, leverage, and deepening optimism regarding emerging markets. All three factors led to dollar selling — and that was well before QE ever made its first appearance in the U.S.
In sum, much of the received wisdom surrounding the Fed and the effects of its actions is misplaced. Through repetition and ex-ante biases, deep misunderstandings have become engrained in market psychology.
Importantly however, the recent rise in the dollar and fall in commodities suggest that these long-held misguided views are becoming dislodged. There is plenty of risk ahead and the Fed’s task is far from easy or over. But the Fed, for the most part, is ahead of the curve. Make sure you and your views don’t get caught behind it.
that was a great article. It points out a lot of misconceptions.
The FED buys the bonds from the 21 primary dealers. The banks make their money by buying up bonds in anticipation of the FEDS buying.
It must be nice that the banks dont lend money out but rather choose to gamble in stocks and commodities. you dont think oil prices are speculated on by all this hot money? Hey if they are making more money gambling why loan out to people?
They really need to get these banks out of the gambling business and back into lending.
“… the stability of inflation reflects the success of inflation-targeting central banks in anchoring inflation expectations and, thus inflation”.
In other words it’s not the inflation you actually experience but the idea that there won’t be inflation in the future that keeps the game going on and on.
“In other words it’s not the inflation you actually experience but the idea that there won’t be inflation in the future that keeps the game going on and on.”
The inflation myth isn’t difficult to suss because we feel it on a regular basis. Most families have four major outlays to contend with, and each of them have experienced double digit inflation: housing, transportation, medical insurance and upper education. However we are told that inflation is non-existent. I’ve given up looking at official data as I believe that most of it has been cooked. I didn’t understand the gold price drop either, but I’m certain there was an official manipulation behind it.
The price of oil was as low as $35 after the crash in 2008, it would not have gone back up so fast without QE. The 80 to 90 figure is for WTI which is held down by a local glut due to fracking. I think the article is more opinion than fact and I have a very different opinion. Every time another QE is announced oil shoots up and it has fallen the last three months on rumors that QE will end.
“I think the article is more opinion than fact and I have a very different opinion.”
I’m with you there.
However, our views of QE3 may differ. Many view it as inflationary; I view it as counter-deflationary, serving to prop up prices in order to stave off the deflationary collapse which started in Fall 2008.
I view it as counter-deflationary, serving to prop up prices in order to stave off the deflationary collapse which started in Fall 2008.
So do I.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 15:03:59
If you are talking about the stock market and the housing market, I agree. However, it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-24 15:12:35
it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.
There is a difference between inflation and simply higher prices. Many formerly dirt-poor in places like China can now afford better food and can drive around in cars. Increased demand = increase prices. That is not inflation in economic terms. Not that my distinction matters either way for people left behind by the globalization mania.
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-04-24 21:01:23
ABD: “However, it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.”
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Tresho: “There is a difference between inflation and simply higher prices.”
I agree with Tresho on this. The dollar was deliberately devalued by the Fed in order to stave off deflation (an uncontrolled increase in the value of the dollar relative to the price of goods and services). It seems quite likely the Fed did not deliberately try to increase the price of food at a time when many American households faced stagnating wages at best or unemployment; rather it is more likely the increase in food prices was collateral damage of the effort to stop deflation in its tracks.
In summary, though food was repriced to higher levels in dollar terms, there is little or no evidence of a wage-price spiral taking hold as one did during a protracted period of double-digit U.S. inflation in the 1970s. Rather the Fed is targeting, though not achieving, a relatively meager 2% annual inflation rate.
“Every time another QE is announced oil shoots up and it has fallen the last three months on rumors that QE will end.”
And conversely, all the Fed needs to do is to offer the slightest hint that QE will end some day in the foreseeable future to cause the prices of gold, stocks, Bitcoin and other risk assets to crash.
Where does Mr. Hedgehog cover that dynamic in his “Nobody understands the Fed better than I do” rant?
LONDON (MarketWatch) — Was the rout in the gold market this month the signal that the long-term bull market in the precious metal is over?
Or was it the kind of volatility you would expect in an asset that doesn’t have any intrinsic value, but is mainly held because investors have lost faith with every other investment?
The private investors might be heading for the exit, but the professionals are buying on weakness. Hedge funds and money managers significantly increased their holdings in the past week, according the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
So who is right? The professionals. If you step back from the day-to-day noise, gold (GCM3 +0.41%) is still a long-term bull market. It has been rising in value for the last decade because of a deadly trio of long-term fundamental fractures in the global economy. Until they are fixed — and that is still at least another decade away — gold is still a core part of any portfolio.
Gold is traditionally sold as a bet on rampant inflation. If central bankers are determined to keep printing more and more money, and if bankrupt governments are forced to inflate away their debts, runs the argument, then gold, as the easiest available alternative to cash, should keep on rising in value.
In fact, that argument is looking more threadbare with every month that passes.
The great bull market in gold started in the early 2000s, and came against a backdrop of relatively low inflation. When prices were genuinely running out of control in the 1970s, gold didn’t do very well. Meanwhile, you’ve more chance of finding a job in Athens than you have any evidence for sustained inflation — it just isn’t there.
So the precious metal is not a great hedge against inflation, and there isn’t much of that around anyway to protect yourself against. That may well explain why at least some investors have started heading for the exit.
That would be a mistake. What gold really represents is a bet on economic chaos — and unfortunately there is plenty of that to come. The global economy faces three huge challenges — and each of them, when you look at them closely, are bullish for gold.
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5:30 AM Jörg Asmussen, an executive board member of the European Central Bank, says the effectiveness of a rate cut would be limited, warns that the calm in markets can’t be taken for granted and says the ECB is looking at unconventional monetary measures. He also discusses with FT capital markets editor Ralph Atkins the change in Japan’s monetary policy, the Cyprus bailout and lending problems to small business. (5m 5sec)
WASHINGTON — Ben Bernanke is intensifying speculation that this year will be his last as Federal Reserve chairman by deciding to skip the Fed’s annual August conference in Jackson Hole, Wyo.
Jackson Hole has long been a high-profile platform for speeches by Fed chairmen. Since taking over the Fed in 2006, Bernanke has been the marquee speaker each year. In 2010, he used his speech to signal that the Fed could launch another bond-buying program. Stock prices jumped in response to his remarks.
His second four-year term will end in January, and neither he nor President Barack Obama has signaled whether Bernanke will serve a third term.
The Jackson Hole retreat, sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, will be held Aug. 22-24. A Fed spokesman said Monday that Bernanke won’t attend because of a “personal scheduling conflict.” The spokesman didn’t elaborate.
Tim Duy, an economics professor at the University of Oregon and author of the FedWatch blog, said Bernanke’s decision suggests that he’ll leave the Fed in January.
“I wonder if that indicates what we all believe,” Duy said.
All eyes at the conference will likely instead focus on the Fed’s vice chair, Janet Yellen, who is widely considered the front-runner to succeed Bernanke. Yellen, who previously led the San Francisco Fed, was appointed vice chair by Obama. Yellen has been a vocal supporter of Bernanke’s low interest rate policies, and her selection would suggest that the Fed would continue those policies.
And if Yellen is the keynote speaker at Jackson Hole this year, “that would just confirm her front-runner status,” said Zach Pandl, an economist at Columbia Management, an asset management firm.
Pandl said it’s even possible Bernanke could inform the White House of his intention to leave, and Obama could publicly tap Yellen to succeed him, before Jackson Hole.
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The Fed does not control the money supply; they control base money (or inside money), which is a small fraction of the broader money supply. In our fractional reserve system, the banks (loosely defined) control the other 90% or so of the money supply (a.k.a. outside money). And the banks have not been lending. This is why the money supply has not grown rapidly in response to years now of QE.
This problem emerged for the Fed previously during the Great Depression. The term the chairman at the time, LDS Church member and Logan, UT banker Mariner Eccles, coined for the phenomenon was ‘pushing on the string.’
The persistence of this phenomenon for a number of years already has not stopped monetary policy poker champion Ben Bernanke from pretending to hold a Royal Flush at all times, even though his hand doesn’t actually even contain a pair of deuces.
So, the natural question is why — if the above is true — have equities gone up so much in response to QE? The simple answer? Psychology and misconception.
Can hedge fund managers really be so fawkin’ ST00PID that they don’t understand the fundamental inverse relationship between asset prices and interest rates?
During those 20 years about 40 ppm of co2 was added to the atmosphere which would have been just over a 10% increase in the ppm in the atmosphere. A doubling of the ppm would cause less than a 2C increase in the temperature. 10% would just be around .2 c. As the article says it will take a long time for man to meaningfully change the temperature. Let us just hope that man put enough co2 in the air to offset the decline in solar activity or the late Spring this year will become the norm.
This paper doesn’t refute CO2 induced warming just the atmospheric sensitivity response. I would point out that one of the main skeptic blogs has found several errors in the Nic Lewis paper.
It looks like the skeptics are relying on more La Niña.
“Scientists estimate that the last time CO2 was as high as 400 ppm was probably the Pliocene epoch, between 3.2 million and 5 million years ago, when Earth’s climate was much warmer than today.”
I don’t refute co2 warming either, I just realize that it is about 14% of what Hansen claimed in the 1980’s and we are not facing a 1C per decade increase like Al Gore was claiming. I have objected to the overstating of the problem to justify things like a co2 tax which was really just a way for governments to get more revenue from the poor and middle class and provide a mechanism to fund world government. Let address real environmental issues such as what China is doing to the world’s environment and ignore what is by and large a beneficial gas. But that works against the globalists and not for them so we will expend all our efforts on reducing co2 emissions within the US and Europe that actually burn coal relatively cleanly.
I’m with you on getting China/India to cut back on their pollution. One thing to keep in mind though, the western industrial world had a 50 year head start in loading the atmosphere with CO2 and most of it is still there. Developing countries think they should be cut a lot of slack on emissions until they catch up with us. I can see their point.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 11:52:54
Sorry China is up to about burning 4 billion tons of dirty coal per year compared to our burning of 1 billion tons with the use of scrubbers. I think they have caught up with us in the amount of co2 that they have put into the air. However, it is the arsenic, so2, mercury and other true pollutants that I am worried about and I don’t see why we have to give them a free ride. Making them clean up would help our competiveness and make the world cleaner, that is a true win/win and should be our policy. We could raise tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars with a tariff on their dirty products. So what if they do not buy our bonds anymore, it is better not to run the deficit in the first place.
Comment by mathguy
2013-04-24 12:59:22
Dan you’re making too much sense. My head is EXPLODING!!!
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 13:24:00
Look many of my views have been twisted on this blog, I am not against environmental protection and in fact have had jobs protecting the environment. To tell a Joe like story, I once interviewed at a major natural resource law firm. Essentially, I had the job and just had to be cleared by the senior partner. It was going well until he asked this question: Do you think that Newt Gingrich is trying to gut the endangered species act? I knew that he wanted an answer such as no he is just trying to make it more sensible and not unduly burden industry. But I realized that I was going to be just like a criminal defense attorney if I accepted the position so I gave a one word answer, yes. They could not get me out of their fast enough. The biblical admonishment about just saying yes or no everything else was from the devil came to me. I could have made more money in my career had I taken the position but I doubt I would have 116/74 blood pressure if I had to live the lie every day. I do not know how Joe works where he works with his beliefs. I know I could not survive in such a situation and took another path.
Comment by tresho
2013-04-24 14:45:01
I doubt I would have 116/74 blood pressure if I had to live the lie every day. I do not know how Joe works where he works with his beliefs. I know I could not survive in such a situation and took another path.
These things do matter.
This seems like a case of mass delusion. I can’t help but notice there seems to to be a correlation between FED QE money printing (inflation?) and the relentless rise in CO2 emissions that should be pushing up atmospheric temperatures. On paper we should be seeing a lot of inflation/warming but the official numbers show nearly flat inflation (the pause?). In the long run we know one day the music will stop and interest rates will rise sharply. It could be the same thing with global temperatures if El Niño comes back strong next year.
I have no doubt that we could set a record with a major El Nino event next year but it would not be even .1c warmer than the last record which is no where near the 1C per decade alarmist case. The AMO still has not gone into a cooling phase so we have not cooled enough to prevent that but it will not change the fact that the correlation between co2 and warming is much weaker now that we have had another 15 years of data. If the projections for sunspot activity or lack there of prove true than we are looking at global cooling not global warming. One Russian scientist is predicting a 1.5C decline by 2050. I do not know how anyone can predict solar cycles that far out so I am not convinced. However, I am convinced that the models created in the 1980s have been proven to be terrible about predicting the future.
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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-04-24 12:31:13
And when I say a record I mean a modern record. Go back a thousand years and we would still be warmer then which was caused by clearly natural cycles.
Al Gore has been blowing so much snow out of his a$$ lately that we’re going to ski two days this weekend. Saturday we’re going to burn up half a tank of gas rolling up to Loveland in a Nissan Pathfinder, then Sunday we’re going to burn up another half a tank of gas rolling up to Arapahoe Basin in a Ford Explorer.
Don’t forget to buy your carbon offsets from Al, he needs to pay his large utility bills for his big inefficient house. I have a small energy efficient house but he tells everyone that co2 is going to kill the planet. It is more than a little ironic.
part of the article states: The differences may not sound like a lot. But the global mean temperature has risen by around a degree since 1850, and the current CO2 concentration is rising by a mere 2 ppm (parts per million) annually - it’s around 390ppm at present. Any changes will be slow, giving policy makers and technologists a long time to prepare, and develop economical low-carbon alternatives.
The objection to short-term measures is that renewable sources of energy are not currently economically viable. As the firmly warmist Economist noted, if a mere 2°C rise over a long time scale is likely, then “perhaps the world should seek to adjust to (rather than stop) the greenhouse-gas splurge. There is no point buying earthquake insurance if you do not live in an earthquake zone.”
This is very difficult for the PC. What really is our future? Who do you think is going to breed faster Muslims or gays? Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.
Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.”
Albuquerquedan if you have time read the book ” Flashback ” a fiction piece about the future in America.
It sounds like an interesting read.
If you haven’t already, read “A Canticle for Leibowitz” Great sci-fi novel written about a fictional future in the part of the US you live in.
What really is our future? Who do you think is going to breed faster Muslims or gays? Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.
We don’t know that. We can’t know that. All we can do is make our choices in the time available to us. That is all any human being has ever had.
Pacific Investment Management Co., home to the world’s biggest bond fund, is cutting holdings of Italian and Spanish government bonds amid a sharp rally in the two markets this month.
The money management firm has “lightened up” in the past couple of weeks in the European debt as part of a broad reduction in exposure to riskier assets in the fixed income markets, said Andrew Balls, Pimco’s head of European portfolio management, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday.
Balls declined to specify the dollar amount Pimco has sold of Italy and Spain bonds. Pimco manages over $2 trillion in global assets.
Balls said the recent rally in prices of Italian and Spanish debt, which recently sent yields on 10-year debt to their lowest levels since 2010, was driven by liquidity from major central banks, which has overshadowed the euro zone’s economic and fiscal problems for the moment. Yields on bonds fall when prices rise.
“This central bank-inspired rally has made the markets more expensive,” said Balls. “Yields could go lower still in Spain and Italy but we have sold into the rally because we remain worried over the fundamenals (SIC) in the euro zone.”
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There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow inventory, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. Your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
“Buyers wait in line at Valencia Cove opening”
New Boynton community sells 73 homes in two hours
by Kim Miller
Wednesday, April 24th, 2013
Valencia Cove, a new GL Homes community in Boynton Beach, sold 73 homes in just two hours during its grand opening weekend.
When the dust settled, a total of 74 homes were sold on April 20-21 for a total of about $35 million.
Marcie DePlaza, division president for GL Homes, said she hadn’t expected so many eager buyers, some of whom were waiting in line when the sales office opened.
“This is our eighth Valencia community in Palm Beach County and there is tremendous pent up demand for lots, especially select lots,” DePlaza said. “We had more than 2,300 people on our waiting list to get more information about Valencia Cove.”
The 55-plus development located on Lyons Road between Boynton Beach Boulevard and Atlantic Avenue features a 39,000-square-foot clubhouse on more than 10 acres of recreation space. The 823 homes in the community are priced from nearly $400,000 to about $650,000.
DePlaza said construction will begin in the fall with the first homeowners moving in during the summer of 2014.
And Valencia Cove isn’t the only GL Homes community with a fan base.
The Bridges in Delray Beach opened new lots this week and had people camping out to get the best spaces. The average home in The Brides cost $850,000.
DePlaza said she took pizza to those camping out at The Bridges’ sales center.
“Their feeling was they had been waiting years for the right home, and people will wait in line for concert tickets, so why not camp out for the biggest purchase you’ll make in your life,” DePlaza said.
Many buyers, especially for the 55-plus communities, are baby-boomers from the Northeast readying for retirement.
“People have finally realized that there really is no inventory out there and the interest rates aren’t getting any better than they are now,” DePlaza said.
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SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — “The best piece of advice I could give long-term investors today is don’t own bonds. And if you do own them, you probably ought to move out of them,” warns Charles Ellis, acclaimed author of the classic “Winning the Loser’s Game: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing.”
Sound familiar? You bet. Ellis’ warning came during a CNN/Money interview with Penelope Wang, just one month after the cover of InvestmentNews was screaming the same warning in huge bold type: “Tick, Tick … Boom!”
In that “special report on the impending crisis in the bond market,” InvestmentNews the newspaper of record for 90,000 professional advisers, I-News was predicting a “bond bomb” will explode, asking rhetorically: “What will your clients’ portfolios look like when the bond bomb goes off?” Answer: Bonds will crash, with huge loses.
When the Fed raises rates, your bonds could lose 25%
Here are the numbers: “Right now the Federal Reserve is set on keeping rates down,” explains Ellis, because “the yield on a 10-year Treasury bond is under 2%. When yields go back to their historical average of 5.5%, an intermediate bond fund could go down 25% in value.”
Remember that warning when Bernanke and the Fed signal the next rate increase, because it is coming. And sooner than you think. But unfortunately, Wall Street insiders, 90,000 advisers and America’s 95 million Main Street investors with trillions in retirement accounts are in denial of that highly likely event … why else are the warnings getting so loud?
What happens after the crash? Investors will get hit hard: Ellis says “people who are putting their retirement money into [so-called] safe-bonds can get hurt badly,” echoing I-News warning “when the bond bomb goes off.”
Forget individual stocks, buy index funds
Wang then asked: “So they should be buying stocks?” Ellis was emphatic: Not stocks. “They should absolutely invest in a low-cost index fund … forget about stock-picking.”
Why no individual stocks? Very simple: The fact is that most investment advisers are losers. Or as Ellis more delicately puts it: “Most active managers underperform because of the fees.” In fact, 80% of all investment advisers lose money for their clients because “after fees, their returns end up being below the market.”
Yes, they are losers. They are losing their investors’ hard-earned retirement money. Solution: Investors should switch to index funds to save 30%. But year after year they remain in denial and just keep throwing away their hard-earned retirement money.
Most financial news is misleading. Why? Because it helps market insiders, the pros with itchy fingers who love short-term trading. They’re different from you and me. They spend all day tracking the markets with their sophisticated algorithms that think in milliseconds.
In time, most of them get it wrong: How else can you explain why in the first decade of the 21st century Wall Street has already triggered two $10 trillion crashes, two long recessions and an inflation-adjusted 20% market loss for Main Street’s retirement portfolios? And yet Wall Street’s cheerleaders just keep distracting investors with predictions of perpetual bull markets, ignoring the fact that we’re in the fifth year of an aging bull.
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One of life’s luxuries is being able to afford a vacation home. But don’t underestimate its true cost—especially if you plan to rent it out.
Doug Lebda, chief executive of Lending Tree, made a bigger down payment and pays higher interest rates because he plans to rent out the $960,000 beach condo he bought with his dad in Wilmington, N.C.
To get the three-bedroom unit, Lebda put down 25% of the purchase price and received an interest rate of 3.86% for a seven-year fixed/20-year adjustable-rate mortgage. He estimates that their interest rate is one-quarter percentage point higher because it is a second property, and an additional one-eighth percentage point higher because of their plan to rent.
“Everything across the board was tighter,” Lebda said. “Thankfully I was well within the guidelines for debt-to-income ratio and credit score.” The beach condo is a joint investment with his father, Bob, who has bought and managed rental properties for years. They expect to collect as much as $3,500 per week during peak summer season from vacationers, but before Lebda took out the mortgage from a bank in the Lending Tree network, he also calculated anticipated costs, including maintenance, marketing and insurance premiums.
“If you are smart about what you buy and you are really detailed about the costs, there are certainly opportunities out there which will be cash-flow positive,” Lebda said.
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For 40% of people aged 55 and older, it was paying off their mortgage, according to a Harris Interactive survey of about 1,540 people for Northwestern Mutual, an insurance and financial-services firm.
And 40% of the over-55 group also said starting to save early was one of their top decisions. (Survey respondents were asked “What are the best financial decisions you ever made?” and could offer more than one option.)
The survey also asked younger people—ages 25 to 54—what are the most important financial decisions they’ll ever need to make: 53% of that group said starting to save early is one of their top goals, while 52% said “making sure that my family is protected” is key.
Paying off the mortgage didn’t even make the cut for the under-55 age group. But that makes perfect sense, said Greg McBride, a senior financial analyst with Bankrate.com.
“Paying off the mortgage becomes a higher priority later in your career, after you’ve amassed sufficient savings for emergencies, after you’ve paid off other debt, after you’ve put the kids through college, and after you’ve spent years accumulating your retirement nest egg on a tax-advantaged basis,” said McBride, who wasn’t involved with the Northwestern Mutual survey.
“All are higher priorities than pouring more money into a low-cost, tax-deductible debt like a mortgage, particularly when rates are as low as they are today,” he said.
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Quick, what’s the best money move you ever made?
Paying off my 1980 11.5% VA home loan early, in 1991. I was astounding at how fast my savings piled up after that point.
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“Falling housing prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels is bullish optimism.”
I’m going to start charging you rent to “live in my skull”.
That would be me, not hosing analyst.
Who the heck is Housing Analyst? I’m losing track…
RAL has so many different variations I can’t keep track either.
So many goon squad members, so little time.
Rand Paul did a 180, he’s ok with domestic use of drones now. On fox news he gave the example of cops should be able to use a drone to find and kill someone accused of robbing a liquor store.
America is becoming a scary place to live. Who to fear more: criminals or the Government?
Some of Paul’s exact words from the interview: “So, most of the time, you get a warrant, but if someone’s actively running around with a gun, you don’t need a warrant. That’s the way the system works.”
Ron Paul is just saying what everyone knows, that eventually DHS will go after the teabilly gun people with impunity. Having a gun will become a “green light” to law enforcement and the feds.
My astonishment was towards his comment regarding the 7-11 stick-up man. if a guy comes out of 7-11 with $50 bucks and a gun he doesn’t care if a cop shoots him or a drone blows him up? Last I checked robbery was a felony that wasn’t in the death sentence category. Apparently though, since we had a recent terror event, we are all losing our minds and common sense.
There will be money to be made in the counter-drone technology field.
Pointing a gun at a cop has always been an instant death sentence if their aim is any good.
Long before you and I were born.
Point taken, maybe it is better for drones to handle criminals
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/w/m/2ffca353db.jpg
POTUS deciding to send a drone to kill you while your sleeping in your bed in the middle of the night is much different than local police sending a drone to kill you while you are sitting in a bell tower with a long gun murdering students on the quad.
get your heads out of your ass people.
not that i think local police departments need drones (as illustrated by the Boston PD)…but just saying.
eco, no one was talking about using the gun or pointing the gun at anyone. The question was simply possessing a gun. Committing a crime while possessing a gun makes it a felony in many cases. In many cases even the appearance of a gun (or fake gun) or claiming to have a gun is enough to charge a felony. It’s already a slippery slope. And now, we have the only guy who filibustered domestic drone use coming on board with the idea of using them for local/state matters.
His claim that “oh, they’re just for tracking down criminals, not for snooping” is laughable. He knows this isn’t the case, any technology that law enforcement has will be used aggressively and, sometimes, misused.
No difference. If you even so much as show a gun in the progress of crime, you will be shot if you do not immediately comply with the cops.
Again, that’s been the law long before you and I were born.
Many out of uniform policeman have been killed by this thought.
I meant Rand Paul, not Ron.
Ron is still against drones. Which is one of many reasons the GOP won’t let him speak for them, appear in the Presidential debate, speak at the convention (unless he submitted to them and endorsed Romney), etc.
Rand is the one who is now OK with drones.
Rand is the one who is now OK with drones.
So Rand kisses the “ring” so that he gets a chance in 2016 presidential election?
Sooner or later those drones are going to kill a sympathetic person.
Try sooner. Drone-striking a wedding is going to look a LOT different when it’s American family, friends, and baby pictures that wind up on the Today show.
Try sooner. Drone-striking a wedding is going to look a LOT different when it’s American family, friends, and baby pictures that wind up on the Today show.
If it isn’t whitewashed, or worse, it gets blamed on “terrorists”.
Fear the MSM. Turn off the news, turn off those crappy tv shows and spend time with family, friends, or just get in tune with life: read some good books, listen to good music, get some physical activity and your perspective on how you see your world will change and so will your anxiety level.
Fear the MSM ??
Thank God for them because without them we would be Nazi Germany….Thousands & Thousands of new laws passed every year… Criminalize everything…And if its not criminal, then we will just charge you a fee….The DA is suppose to be there to protect the people….All they are is a puppet for the criminal justice system…
I get the agrarian perspective Salinas…But for most people, thats not, and cannot be the real world….
Any link to that?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/04/23/sen_rand_paul_im_not_against_using_drones_to_find_criminals.html
It was with Neil Cavuto on FoxNews last evening. He made some extremely lame distinction like “law enforcement should use drones to look for crimes, but shouldn’t go snooping around” - ha ha ha ha ha, ya, because I’m sure law enforcemetn will limit themselves.
He said he’s fine with local and state law enforcement using drones. No trials needed, just as long as the police are pretty sure. No trial needed to prove a suspect is guilty of a crime, we should use drones to handle the problem.
He’s also said elsewhere that he will not filibuster again. He’s catching on that he has no chance to be a GOP Presidential or VP nominee if he is against drones.
I hope you are wrong. On Facebook just yesterday Rand Paul said he is still against the use of drones. I did not read enough to determine which context.
He’s against using drones to “snoop”, for example into people’s back yards. But he compares drones to using cameras or other methods to enforce laws. LOL @ him saying that a drone is like a camera in any way, shape, or form. Let’s see the for what it is, Rand would like to run for President and also have a leadership position within the GOP. Ron never cared about that very much, to him the ideas were more important. And not bending on his ideas cost him a lot within the GOP. He would’ve given Romney a serious run for his money for the nomination. Ron Paul was the *only* GOP candidate that people under 40 would actively support (I would’ve supported Huntsman too, but that is just me).
Gary Johnson had a live Q & A last night on YouTube. It was heartening to see mostly young people asking questions. I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012.
School Marm, Colorado, Alpha voted for Obama, which means they voted to give more work to Bill in Los Angeles. Retards. They must really love me by voti g for more work for me. And here I vote to get myself out of a job!
Our LIEberals can’t handle the truth.
Bill, that Washington DC routinely votes more than 80% Democratic AND is the wealthiest metropolitan area in the United States tells me all I need to know.
Leeches.
LOL @ him saying that a drone is like a camera in any way, shape, or form.
A drone _is_ like a camera—it is in essence a very very mobile camera.
I’m not opposed to using them as very mobile cameras. I am opposed to using them as tools to assassinate Americans in a manner contrary to the protections outlined in the Constitution. Rand’s statement about it not mattering if it is a drone or a cop in the “outside a liquor store with $50 and a gun” was clearly a poor choice of words; a cop shouldn’t shoot in that case unless the gun was aimed at someone.
BiLA,
I just listened to that Gary Johnson Google hang-out in the background while I was doing some work. It wasn’t just “many” of the callers/participants who were young. They were all young. Almost every single participant was a young male, I’d save the average age was mid/late 20s. Which is not surprising because the GOP brand among millenials is basically s***. If the GOP had a clue, a lot of these people would support them.
Drones and other DHS systems/products will be everywhere…especially in the support and collection of taxes.
States will use them to tax people who purchased items out of state. And from garage sales. Or from bartering exchanges.
The IRS will use them to track down and arrest tax “cheats” despiute there being no law that says you must pay income tax.
The EPA will use them to chase down offenders, such as those who drive non-electric cars.
The Hunting & Fishing folks will do the same.
ObamaCare and single payer (which will come to pass as Obamacare ruins what already is mediocre) will track your food, liquor and smoke purchases…stating that your ObamaCare tax will increase x-fold if you choose to purchase items not on their “approved” list.
The possibilities for legalized theft are boundless. It’s why your government is all for drones.
You hit a bullseye Macbeth.
If the drones take people out that drive five miles an hour below the speed limit in the passing lane, I can support them. (this is a joke for people that might use this post against me in the future).
In the future the sky will be filled with so many drones it will nearly blot out the sun. Each of us will have a personally assigned drone following us around to make sure we don’t do or say anything the state doesn’t approve of. If you step out of line (or when) the drone immediately executes you as a terrorist and then flies off to find a newly born baby that doesn’t have a pet drone yet.
LOL!
You guys are forgetting how cheap drones are.
Anti-drone warfare will be here soon enough.
Each of us will have a personally assigned drone following us around to make sure we don’t do or say anything the state doesn’t approve of.
Sounds like another symptom of cheap oil :-).
I build my own drones for fun. It is a hobby. People have been building model planes and copters for decades. But suddenly, now there is all kinds of legislation popping up around this hobby. Because of use of drones by military your otherwise oblivious congresswoman seem to have become suddenly aware that such devices could be used for nefarious purposes. Thus, ordinary citizens must be restricted from having them.
Bill, voting for either Romney or Obama would’ve kept you in business.
Gary J ran as a libertarian for a reason, he would not be accepted by national GOP party either.
I voted for Obama as a stupid emotional thing, because Romney was so personally disgusting. I bet many others did the same. If the GOP had run a less vomit-inducing candidate I probably would’ve voted for Gary J. Then again, look at that primary field the GOP had… the serious competition for Mittens were Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and Newt. LOL.
This does not compute.
You know full well, Joe, how D.C. and Maryland vote.
There’s no way Romney would have taken either in the general election. You could have voted for Johnson without worry. Unless you live inm Virginia.
Your answer isn’t good enough.
Believe it or not, I used to be a Republican (granted, Republicans in Philly suburbs and central NJ are quite a bit different than the mouth-breathing variety the national party loves).
My vote for Obama really represents my disgust at what the party has become. The dumb party, the know-nothing party, the party that doesn’t offering real answers on economic questions and are a bunch of knuckle-draggers on social questions.
I admitted my vote was emotional, voting at all in Maryland is an act of vanity. Yes everyone knows that unless the GOP fields a good candidate MD is going blue. The last Republican to win MD’s electoral votes was George H.W. Bush, who would be labeled a RINO and cast out of today’s GOP because he was too smart, accomplished, and moderate on social issues. I voted against Romney more than for Obama. Voting for Johnson wouldn’t have given me the same satisfaction of laughing at the teabillies. I know that sounds stupid and I admit it kind of is stupid. But, again, in Maryland if I was doing the rational thing I wouldn’t bother voting at all. I already can’t vote in primaries in Baltimore because I refuse to register as a DEM and we have closed primaries.
I would like to know the difference between Romney and George H.W. Bush, you act like they are a different species and I see them cut from the same cloth right down to being political royalty.
Thanks.
“…cops should be able to use a drone to find and kill someone accused of robbing a liquor store…”
Wouldn’t that make it a bit difficult to uphold the accused’s right to a fair and speedy trial by a jury of the people?
Or has America’s political class silently abrogated the Constitution?
Exactly my point about Rand Paul.
Note that Ron Paul is still steadfastly against drone use on US soil.
Rand Paul is proving to be a better politician than his father. See how he gained media coverage and points for standing up against the evil that wanted to use drones against Americans on American soil. Now after that dies down he flip-flops over to the other side to gain points with the Protectamericans crowd. An excellent political move, he will go far.
he will go far.
And be just as useless as the rest if he doesn’t stand for anything.
Yeah, he is turning from someone I would have considered voting for into someone I would never consider voting for. But the opposite seems true for most of the voting populace.
Rand is a free-trader. He is of no use to us.
Frontline was good last night, i saw about 2/3 before falling asleep. 401k’s started off as a tax dodge for the well off, not as a replacement or supplement to pensions. Most 401k plans are poorly run, the tax advantages are offset by fees and illiquidity (also rules about distribution) and the system is designed to benefit wall street. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
I was skeptical about that 32-year-old teacher who claimed she had $120K in retirement. But she seemed to live frugally… did you see that apartment complex she lived in?
I wasn’t focused on exact dollar amounts but moreso on how the system functions. Maybe 120k was her high point.
Why be skeptical? I am 35 years old and have been saving since my first “real” job in 1999 and have more than that saved for retirement. I actually worry that I haven’t been saving enough.
Now remember that they want to do the same thing with SS.
that they want to do the same thing with SS ??
And who would “they” be ??
The Bush Administration circa 2003 openly tried it. Dan Bartlett was on the news many times promoting “carve-outs” and similar ways to give fees to Wall Street.
The concept fell out of favor, but I don’t think Wall Street will ever stop lobbying to resurrect the idea. Imagine the infusion of OPM.
^ This
Yes I know oxide….I was being a little sarcastic…
Sine my favorite president took office in 2009 my average annual gain in my 401k is above 14%. My 401k changed to another investment company on January 1 2009 so I do not know the AAR from before. I do not invest politically. If I did, I would be 100% in gold bullion, and I only consider that money, not an investment.
average annual gain in my 401k is above 14%. ”
Excellent work !!
I looked my gain up. It’s above 7% last 5 years and 12% last year
Vanguard has this really nice graphing tool
I have a REIT fund and a stock fund called Wellington and I let it ride.
I trade my non IRA cash. ha it’s up half the amount of my rollover IRA and ROTH. Boogles right !!
I sure wish I was as smart and good looking as you two.
Yea, me too. Is cash no longer king with the gubmint printing so many $$$$$?
I am probably a better dancer though.
Frontline was good last night”
I watched it on my computer, the economist found out what high fees can do over time especially when your return goes down.
Go with vanguard if you can thier fees are really low.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/retirement-gamble-fees-killing-savings-155036217.html?vp=1
Apologies if my screed on boomers offended anyone our made me look more extremist than usual. Almost without exception, blb is very skeptical of power. My attempted point was to observe the contrast in the open minded, logical, and intellectual bent of 60s and early 70s culture and the turn for the worse this country took when boomers rose to take leadership positions. Boomers in power have been horrible, both parties, clinton sold out to corps just as much as W for example. I think it’s basically agreed that boomers sold the country out and created the problems that need fixing, just as people credit boomer parents as the greatest generation. This clearly want meant as an observation about a generation’s effect on the country as a group, not about individuals.
That said, you guys did have some awesome music!
Another good contrast… Listen to “our house” by crosby still & nash. The perfect description of what a house should be. Now compare that to the cultural understanding of a house that took gold from Ray-gun onward. As a monument to “success”, a thing to “trade up”, and something to refinance/HELOC.
article from 1987 about david crosby’s addiction to cocaine and heroin and subsequent recovery. the equity withdrawal and spending economy of 2000 to 2007 was as sustainable and logical as a freebase addiction. there’s a reason we use the phrase ‘debt junkie’ on hbb.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20096144,00.html
CSN was good, but I prefer the group formed by Bill Cosby, Beverly Sills, Johnny Cash and Connie Chung….Cosby Sills Cash and Chung.
I think I saw that quartet in concert once..
“Cosby Sills Cash and Chung.”
Funny! I wrote a piece 20 years ago for giggles only about how Neil Young, Neil Diamond and Neil Sedaka were getting together as a group to record and tour. They’d be known as “NNN&Y”. Neil Young was quoted as saying something to the effect of, “I get to use both my names because I’m the most talented”.
The “boomer parents” set up the whole ponzi scheme.
The boomers just took advantage of it and expanded it.
just as people credit boomer parents as the greatest generation.
The boomers just took advantage of it and expanded it.”
the Boomers are going to choke on it
Read The Fourth Turning. Everything is right on time and all in reaction to the generation that raised them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_13?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the%20fourth%20turning&sprefix=The+fourth+tu%2Caps%2C368
Read The Fourth Turning.”
I liked that book, many do not however
It’s not the boomers’ fault, it’s not the “greatest generation’s” fault. Everyone wants something for nothing.
human nature…hell…every living organisms nature.
get the most with the least effort (or use of energy).
It’s not the boomers’ fault, it’s not the “greatest generation’s” fault. Everyone wants something for nothing.
Is that the same “greatest generation” who worked for twenty years with a union and then retired for thirty years?
Again, it wasn’t the boomers.
Cheney, Bush, Rove and Rumsfeld were all on Ford’s staff. Working staff.
Yes, President Ford from the 1970s.
In 1972, the Fortune 200 formed the Business Roundtable, known as the “Senate of Business”. It was and still is, no exaggeration.
Little known facts.
I question how these people were allowed to be in power, why Congress became such a bastion of buffoons over the course of the 80s and 90s.
So do we all.
The 80’s brought you Pelosi and the 90’s brought you Boehner. No two better examples of baffoons.
It seems our only choices have been Tweedledee or Tweedledum Dum for decades.
However, this does not detract from the main issue of the GOP doing far more to deliberately screw J6P, than anyone else.
However, this does not detract from the main issue of the GOP doing far more to deliberately screw J6P, than anyone else.
Not for lack of trying on the part of the Ds. They’re just not as effective.
At best, they haven’t been very good defenders.
The boomers. The Jews. The fundies. The liberals. The neo cons. The white males. The feminists. The blacks. The Latinos. The Asians. The gen x, the millenials. The Muslims. The rednecks, the socialists, the Californians. The Texans.
Then there is …me.
Just keep believing you’re the master of your own fate.
I sincerely hope you never have to find out just how not in control you are.
an army of one
So you exclude yourself from the boomers, gen x and millennials. How old are you?
Then there is …me.”
he is a Han Solo or nomad type. from “the fourth turning”
More Gen X than boomer
I bet you’re about 50 ( not a fair bet I’ve met Bill he’s cool )
cusp boomer like me
I’ll just make this point: no prior generations had as many tatoos, piercings, and apparel identifying your favorite consumptions as GenX and the millenials. Why the f do I have to see so many t-shirts with “Hollister” and “Famous Stars & Straps”, just to name two?
Everyone needs to dress better. And lose weight.
Seen the prices of tattoos?
I mean seriously, WTF?
Even more amazing, the people who get them don’t appear to be very affluent. Which means that they’re saving up for new tats. Or that the parlors have one heckuva finance business going.
had as many tatoos, piercings
Where’s Bloomberg when you need him? If Bloomi decides against tatoos and piercings, he gets my vote. One tiny tatoo here and there is cute….I am not sure why so many people are just ruining their natural beauty?. At the mimimum, ladies, please please don’t do it.
Not what do you have against tramp stamps?
not=now
Try and find a Navy vet from WWII who doesn’t have a tattoo.
And I remember seeing what an old tattoo looked like when I was kid. If we did not age a permanent marking might be ok.
“Boomers in power have been horrible, both parties, clinton sold out to corps just as much as W for example.”
You give boomers too much power. And you did not answer my question as to when you consider that boomers actually took the reigns of power.
I posted this late yesterday, so you may have missed it. In my calculations, I assumed that non-boomer years were 75% as large as boomer years.
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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2013-04-23 21:10:58
“The Boomers elected increasingly feckless politicians”
The boomers were not the only group that voted in elections. The Presidential election of 1984 was the first in which all of the boomers were eligible to vote. At that point, they represented less than 57% of the electorate (age groups 18-49. Boomers were actually 20-38). It was probably closer to 40% of the voters
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_84.html
Extrapolating for other years, in 1988 boomers represented about 45% (ages 24-42). In 1992, boomers were about 46%. The younger age groups voted more for Perot than the older age groups. Boomers were less than 50% of the voters in all other presidential elections.
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_08.html
By 2008, younger generations outnumber boomers by 10% (47% for ages 18-44, 37% for ages 45-64. Boomers are actually aged 44-62 at this point.)
I expect numbers for Congressional and state elections were consistent with the Presidential elections.
In terms of blame, you should blame whites. They are still more than 70% of the voters.
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“I think it’s basically agreed that boomers sold the country out and created the problems that need fixing, just as people credit boomer parents as the greatest generation.”
Who agrees with this statement? I sure don’t. It is lazy thinking.
What problems “need fixing”? What are your proposed fixes? Are your peers on board with them?
I could name a list of problems that need to be fixed, but I am interested in what your list is.
From Wikipedia:
My son has noticed the focus on practical majors and career training by his college classmates. I expect that student loans and the economy play into this. Business is the new default major for those who don’t really know what they want to do.
Are post-boomers going to have the resources and energy to devote to fixing problems? Or are those generations’ one-percenters going to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else?
Are post-boomers going to have the resources and energy to devote to fixing problems? Or are those generations’ one-percenters going to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else? ”
I think they will reject the behavior of the largest generation and try and fix problems. just like the boomers tried to fix problems.
I think Obama being Elected was a “turning point” and for better or worse and I don’t think it will turn back.
Mayor Bloomberg: Interpretation of U.S. Constitution Will ‘Have to
Change’ Following Boston Bombings
By Billy Hallowell | The Blaze – 9 hrs ago
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg believes that the Boston Marathon bombings have created a unique scenario — one in which traditional interpretations of the U.S. Constitution must change. Rather than shying away from cameras and other security mechanisms that some view as infringements upon individual privacy, the politician claims that the most recent attack calls for a new paradigm.
As for those who fear government intrusion and express serious concerns about how these technologies and other policies could impede privacy, Bloomberg is sympathetic — but only to a point.
“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry, but we live in a complex world where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will,” Bloomberg said during a press conference on Monday. “And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”
He went on to note that we live in a dangerous world and that there are some who wish to take away Americans’ freedoms, the Observer’s Politicker reports. But in order to protect these sentiments, Bloomberg argued that more intensive security is necessary.
http://news.yahoo.com/mayor-bloomberg-interpretation-u-constitution-change-following-boston-122045169.html - -
Really?
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
Steve Watson
April 22, 2013
The video, shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of their own home. They are then ordered to run down the street to be further frisked by police as scores of armed militarized cops look on.
The story floated in the mainstream media that the door to door searches were conducted with the voluntary consent of the residents of Watertown is clearly false. 9000+ Police locked down an entire city and went in with full force, with armored vehicles and combat gear, all to search for an injured 19 year old kid who turned out to be cowering in someone’s back yard.
http://www.infowars.com/shocking-footage-americans-ordered-out-of-homes-at-gunpoint-by-swat-teams/ - -
Oh well, it’s not like they would actually shoot anyone.
DHS Contractor Apologizes For Selling Shooting Targets of Children
Paul Joseph Watson
February 22, 2013
In its apology, posted on the company’s website as well as Facebook, LET acknowledged that the targets were requested by law enforcement agencies.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-contractor-apologizes-for-selling-shooting-targets-of-children/ - 53k -
such is life in the nobel peace prize president’s america.
forward
if me and two other folks get killed in a terrorist attack 10 years from now…please don’t use it to “re-interpret” the constitution that applies to the other 313+ million.
thanks.
And the cowards hand the terrorists another win.
He went on to note that we live in a dangerous world and that there are some who wish to take away Americans’ freedoms, the Observer’s Politicker reports. But in order to protect these sentiments, Bloomberg argued that more intensive security is necessary ??
I had a pretty lengthly conversation just last week on this with a couple of retired teachers…They lean left…I argued that given the fact that the FBI questiond this Boston Bomber guy there was obviously some suspision surrounding him…I contiued to say that since he was not an american citizen, and entering this country is a previlage & not a right that we should have just deported him…There answer back to me was, thats what you have in a open society…
So, Bloomberg has a good point….If, we are going to continue to be a “open society” letting people come here that are even “Anti American” and frequent Jehad networks then maybe we need the types of monitoring systems that he suggests…
For me, I would rather deport the Ba$turd…
…and THIS, is why I love the Internet.
The jig is up. Now we just have to wait for the people to catch up.
Maybe if we could somehow tie it all in to Dancing with the Stars on Survivor Jersey Shore Walking Dead.
You do get the feeling that tamping down on us will be one of the last actions checked off the list before they allow the poop to actually touch those fan blades.
Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams
And yet, we can’t deny a visa to someone who is not a citizen, who might check a box that indicates they are in a class of people we “can’t discriminate against.”
“Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams”
What happen(s/ed) to the family dog?
Obama ate it after Romney delivered it to him on the top of his car.
LOL….
Cops usually shoot those…
Yeah, because pressure cookers and black powder didn’t used to exist, way back when.
City fines flipper & contractor $11,550 for removing trees from city property
Traverse City, Michigan
Not just city residents need to know that. How about absentee homeowners and out-of-town contractors?
Buckets of money and boxes of stupid.
Exactly. Who are these with that much money and stupid and how did they get it being that stupid?
Ancestral wealth removes any natural selection pressure, and in America if you have money you are given more money. This results in spectacular combinations of wealth and stupidity.
Got that right and I have the scars to prove it!
It’s not only that. In the teen, twenties and for some wayward souls their whole lives Dear Daddy cleans up all their legal messes after them. The sense of boundaries the rest of us have had pounded in our heads whether gently through parental guidance or a little more intensely via the long arm of the law just never happened to them. Consequences are for the little people.
The Bush and Kennedy families in a nutshell.
Who are these with that much money and stupid and how did they get it being that stupid?
I don’t know how they got that stupid, but there sure are a lot of them in the area of Grand Traverse Bay, which includes Traverse City and Leelanau County. It’s a popular place to retire, so popular the real estate and rents have been driven up to ridiculous heights. So high a cost of living that local school enrollments are shrinking since families who tend to have school age children tend not to live there.
Yet so stupid that in 2005 a newly built $7.5 million sewage facility sprang a major leak and spilled 150,000 gallons of partially treated sewage. The local paper reported
So this is why so many new home developments have trees (typically, those awful Bradford pears, ‘natch) planted smack-dab in the middle of the front lawn.
For some reason, city ordinances never occurred to me…I just thought contractors and home owners were really stupid for ruining their front yards (both in terms of appearance and utility) by planting trees in such stupid places…like in the middle of the lawn.
I sure am a dolt sometimes.
I wonder if cities are moving “their” property lines closer to private homes as the years pass. Anyone?
In the city of San Jose you had to get a public hearing, and a $200. permit to cut dow “ANY” tree that was in your yard “ANYWHERE” if the tree had a circumference greater than (as I recall) 30″ two foot above the ground…Think thats a little bit of government intrusion into private property rights ??
Well, I can say that they recently modified that ordinance…Now, it is restricted to four distinct species of trees…Oak & Redwood being two that I recall….BUT, you still must get a permit AND pay the $200. tree removal permit…
Any surprise here ?? None for me…
“I wonder if cities are moving “their” property lines closer to private homes as the years pass. Anyone?”
General answer: yes.
Just research where you live. If not there, then check a few of the top 20 cities.
Encroachment is a fact of life inside city limits.
The devil is always in the details as far as local land use regulations go.
In 2003-4 I re-did the drainage from my home’s rain gutters to the street by installing reinforced concrete drain lines from the house to the curb, rather than simple plastic pipe. The previously installed drainage pipe had been crushed by people driving on the strip between the street and my sidewalk — plus occasionally I drive my truck across my own front yard to unload building materials.
I used simple hand tools to do this, among them a winch tied to my truck bumper which I used to pull the concrete slabs up & away from portions of my sidewalk so I could run my concrete pipes under the sidewalk. I used the same method to slid the slabs back into very rough alignment.
By the time I was done I had nice thick strong and reliable drainage lines from my sump pump and rain gutters to the street, along with severely misaligned blocks of concrete sidewalk. The sidewalk had already been somewhat misaligned, but my DIY enthusiasm had made it much worse.
Then I discovered that I had violated local housing & zoning laws. By law my sidewalk and lawn between it and the street are jointly owned by my city & myself. Can’t disturb it without violating a law. The city condemned my sidewalk but didn’t find me in violation. Net result was I paid 50% of the cost of pouring a new sidewalk to completely replace it from my driveway to the next lot. I negotiated face to face with the concrete contractor to adjust the pour so my drainage to the street was left in working order, along with another pipe left open under the new sidewalk so that I could completely drain the south half of my yard.
No big deal. My share of the sidewalk was about $450. I also negotiated a new concrete driveway apron for myself to replace my severely misaligned original apron, this cost me $800. I think I got a pretty good deal and now enjoy a very good driveway and sidewalk. This comes in especially handy when I clear snow — very little shoveling is needed, I mostly scrape and shove the snow and ice to the side.
Your local authorities may not be as easy-going and tolerant as mine.
Now if we could only get bankers and politicians under the same rules…
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Ireland’s cash-strapped borrowers face ban on vacations, limits on food spending
Financial Post | 13 April 2013
Irish borrowers struggling to meet their loan repayments may be banned from taking vacations and face limits on how much they can spend on food under guidelines published by the country’s personal insolvency service.
Monthly individual living expenses for people seeking debt relief may be capped at 35.73 euros ($46.7) for clothing, 247.04 euros for food and 33.40 euros for personal-hygiene items, the Insolvency Service of Ireland said in Dublin today. Households in towns with “adequate public transport links” may not need a car, while private health insurance may also be banned, the ISI said.
The guidelines set a “standard of living that is based on needs, not wants, but it is more than survival and allows for meaningful participation in society,” the ISI said. “It should not be regarded as a standard of living for people in poverty.”
I think this would push Americans over the edge.
The food budget limitation is troubling as radiation, pipeline, and fracking accidents don’t always seem to take food production out of affected areas.
Let’s test your theory domestically, starting with Congressmen.
They are our leaders, after all. They should lead by example. Not by the government pulpit.
‘from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs’ — barack hussein obama, 3rd inaugural address, january 20, 2017
The loon squad is out in force this morning.
just trying to share the truth with you
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Careful… Big Barak is watching. He’ll send a black drone for you.
Black drones are scarier than all those other drones, because they’re black.
…and sporting saggy pants.
And a hoody.
Sacramento which was one of the hardest hit major metros for foreclosures …Latest article;
http://cl.exct.net/?ju=fe5213797c66017c761d&ls=fe1b1d777d6c017e741275&m=fefc1172766306&l=fed1157376640678&s=fe35157277640d7d711074&jb=ffcf14&t=
“hardest hit”
First by foreclosures, soon to be followed by echo bubble equity locust investors…
investors are buying up foreclosures in some really piss poor areas. good luck finding a renter blackstone.
Piss poor areas aren’t known for the quality of their tenants.
I imagine when they find out that rents barely cover expenses in these areas, they’re going to dump the houses right back onto the market.
I actually work with a guy who is playing the “bulk buy” game. At $35,000 per unit, how can you lose? Silly man…
Under sec. 8, it’s not uncommon to be able to collect $1000+ in monthly rent on a house that could be bought for 30-40k cash.
We had a group pitch us on buying homes to rent in Detroit several years ago. Experienced guy…homes would be even less than $35k apiece (ISTR some at $10k, etc.).
No thanks.
“We had a group pitch us on buying homes to rent in Detroit several years ago. Experienced guy…homes would be even less than $35k apiece (ISTR some at $10k, etc.).
No thanks.”
If you’re black, 6′6″, and 300 lbs, no problem. If you’re a white dweeb, good fricking luck.
How government killed a rational housing market…
How government killed affordable higher education…
and
How Government Killed the Medical Profession
Reason | Apr. 22, 2013 | Jeffrey A. Singer
Government interventions over the past four decades have yielded a cascade of perverse incentives, bureaucratic diktats, and economic pressures that together are forcing doctors to sacrifice their independent professional medical judgment, and their integrity. The consequence is clear: Many doctors from my generation are exiting the field. Others are seeing their private practices threatened with bankruptcy, or are giving up their autonomy for the life of a shift-working hospital employee. Governments and hospital administrators hold all the power, while doctors—and worse still, patients—hold none.
Coding was one of the earliest manifestations of the cancer consuming the medical profession, but the disease is much more broad-based and systemic. The root of the problem is that patients are not payers. Through myriad tax and regulatory policies adopted on the federal and state level, the system rarely sees a direct interaction between a consumer and a provider of a health care good or service. Instead, a third party—either a private insurance company or a government payer, such as Medicare or Medicaid—covers almost all the costs. According to the National Center for Policy Analysis, on average, the consumer pays only 12 percent of the total health care bill directly out of pocket. There is no incentive, through a market system with transparent prices, for either the provider or the consumer to be cost-effective.
The persistence of price controls has coincided with a steady ratcheting down of fees for doctors. As a result, private insurance payments, which are typically pegged to Medicare payment schedules, have been ratcheting down as well. Meanwhile, Medicare’s regulatory burdens on physician practices continue to increase, adding on compliance costs. Medicare continues to demand that specific coded services be redefined and subdivided into ever-increasing levels of complexity. Harsh penalties are imposed on providers who accidentally use the wrong level code to bill for a service. Sometimes—as in the case of John Natale of Arlington, Illinois, who began a 10-month sentence in November because he miscoded bills on five patients upon whom he repaired complicated abdominal aortic aneurysms—the penalty can even include prison.
As doctors become shift workers, they work less intensely and watch the clock much more than they did when they were in private practice. Additionally, the doctor-patient relationship is adversely affected as doctors come to increasingly view their customers as the hospitals’ patients rather than their own.
In a nutshell, hospitals, clinics, and health care providers have been given incentives to organize into teams that will get assigned groups of 5,000 or more Medicare patients. They will be expected to follow practice guidelines and protocols approved by Medicare. If they achieve certain benchmarks established by Medicare with respect to cost, length of hospital stay, re-admissions, and other measures, they will get to share a portion of Medicare’s savings. If the reverse happens, there will be economic penalties.
A June 2012 survey of 36,000 doctors in active clinical practice by the Doctors and Patients Medical Association found 90 percent of doctors believe the medical system is “on the wrong track” and 83 percent are thinking about quitting. Another 85 percent said “the medical profession is in a tailspin.” 65 percent say that “government involvement is most to blame for current problems.” In addition, 2 out of 3 physicians surveyed in private clinical practice stated they were “just squeaking by or in the red financially.”
In the not-too-distant future, a small but healthy market will arise for cash-only, personalized, private care. For those who can afford it, there will always be competitive, market-driven clinics, hospitals, surgicenters, and other arrangements—including “medical tourism,” whereby health care packages are offered at competitive rates in overseas medical centers. Similar healthy markets already exist in areas such as Lasik eye surgery and cosmetic procedures. The medical profession will survive and even thrive in these small private niches.
In other words, we’re about to experience the two-tiered system that already exists in most parts of the world that provide “universal coverage.” Those who have the financial means will still be able to get prompt, courteous, personalized, state-of-the-art health care from providers who consider themselves professionals. But the majority can expect long lines, mediocre and impersonal care from shift-working providers, subtle but definite rationing, and slowly deteriorating outcomes.
We already see this in Canada, where cash-only clinics are beginning to spring up, and the United Kingdom, where a small but healthy private system exists side-by-side with the National Health Service, providing high-end, fee-for-service, private health care, with little or no waiting.
it’s not enough that we spend 18 percent of gdp on health care. we should be spending at least 30 percent. that’ll show all those socialists who’s number 1.
USA! USA! USA!
that’ll show all those socialists who’s number 1 ??
We already do show them with our military budget…Add to that budget everything that we spend in the criminal justice system from Drug enforcement to traffic citations…How many trillions is that ??
How much money was spent finding the kid in the boat ??
it’s not enough that we spend 18 percent of gdp on health care. …
It sounds like you must be straying from Drudge if you’re familiar with that 18% thing. You should get your news only from Drudge, Fox and other outlets approved by big business. Otherwise, your brain will become polluted by facts.
Is your sarcasm meter broken? We are trying to out-2banana the 2banana in our criticism of Obama, and so far we are winning!
Obama is a muslim.
Obama was born in Kenya.
Obama eats dog meat.
Obama takes alot of vacations.
Et cetera…
I saw the sarcasm and I was playing along with your online persona that loves Drudge, Fox, Rush, etc. Besides the dog meat and the vacations, don’t forget about all the czars that Obama appointed and his use of the teleprompter. Those are very important issues.
We read Drudge and we listen to Rush, but we don’t love them. We read and listen because we want to know where the people who do love them are coming from.
And we know very few liberals who have ever actually listened to Rush. When he says something “outrageous”, they only get the liberal media’s regurgitation of what he actually said.
If you can listen to Rush for more than 15 minutes at a time you are better than I am. Of course, I cannot take more than 15 minutes of MSNBC at a time either. I try to understand all sides too but I really like to hear hard news and the BBC is the best I can find these days.
Now that you mention it I can’t take Fox for more than 15 minutes even in the event that I agree with them. I don’t even try the stuff on the left…
MSNBC used to be a good time when W was in office. Now that their guy is in, it’s senseless and useless.
I listened to Rush for a few minutes two months ago. I heard him call some Democrats statists. So now he’s jumped on that bandwagon. After years of talking about socialists, communists and Marxists with no effect he’s moved on to statists. He probably has interns scouring the dictionary looking for next word that ends in -ist.
Progressivist?
But they’re going to have trouble turning “Progressive” into a negative. The other words can be traced to bad policies in Russia/Germany. Progressive is traced to… Teddy Roosevelt, he of the safe food and monopoly breakage (and rooting out corruption in the NYPD early on). Good luck, Rush.
And no, I can barely watch the TV “news” stations either. Stewart and Colbert seem to be the only ones that don’t turn me off.
PBS isn’t so bad either.
So now he’s jumped on that bandwagon.
I figured he was driving it.
I only listen to Rush a few minutes a month, so I’m no expert. However, the impression that I got was that statist was an exciting new word for him to use after getting tired of socialist. On the other hand, I’ve seen statist used on this blog for at least a couple of years now, so Rush is not a leader on this one.
We do not spend 18% of GDP it is 18% of GDP…just saying.
“…30 percent…”
In due time. The Baby Boomers have only just begun to reach their peak medical expenditure age range.
I vote for Soylent Green.
Do you get fries with that?
Sweeney Todd - Worst Pies in London
Housing and education bubbles were both created by lobbyists from Wall St.
That sounds entirely plausible, as any time Wall Street sees a private local transaction occurring on Main Street at affordable prices for both parties, they see an opportunity to inject massive amounts of easy-money financing to provide bubble riches to the supply side (e.g. higher education institutions) and bubble-debt destitution for the demand side of the transaction (e.g. debt-strapped college students). And it’s the Fed’s easy money in perpetuity policy which fuels the opportunity for Great Vampire Squids to get their blood sucking proboscis in on the action.
That’s just a conjecture; would love to see some evidence.
Just google it.
It’s all there.
I’m not speculating at all, but stating fact.
Good piece.
“The root of the problem is that patients are not payers.”
Increasingly, the same is true in housing.
I deserve YOUR money, YOUR sweat, YOUR livelihood, YOUR life.
Why should I pay?
I find interesting the folks here who support government healthcare yet have a problem with government housing.
Seems that there’s worry about their presumed profits in housing and their presumed expenses in medicine.
I find interesting the folks here who support government healthcare yet have a problem with government housing.
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RAL doesn’t promise to build us new free market bodies for $55 a sq ft after we get hit by a car or get sick. Nor can we rent a new one while the old one gets fixed.
See the difference?
In any case, I don’t think we speak too much here about government housing, but lots of (liberal - conservatives hate it of course) people seem to be just fine with section 8.
Government systems are ALWAYS designed to protect the 1%ers.
ObamaCare is designed to protect the 1%ers. So is single-payer.
Doubt me? Who gets the protection from government-run housing? You or the 1%?
People are stupid. Including those with pedigree college degrees.
(Unless they’re in on the take…which perhaps signals intelligence, but also no moral or ethical boundaries. But, hey - everyone else is doing it, so why shoudln’t I?)
“The root of the problem is that patients are not payers.”
+1 Here’s a whole doggie treat!
high home prices will get the economy back on its feet.
Higher prices=fewer sales=less economic activity.
“Why buy a house current grossly inflated prices when you can rent for half the cost? Buy later after housing prices crater for 65% less.
when will the chinese start selling manufactured homes to us?
Why would they when we have 25 MILLION excess empty houses?
does this mean pimp watch won’t be able to build my aspen ski chalet for 55 dollars a square foot?
‘even as u.s. housing rebounds from its worst downturn since the 1930s, production bottlenecks are pushing up building-materials costs, land prices are rising (so my lot in aspen will cost 6,000 and not 5,000?) and skilled labor ready to begin work is hard to find.
suppliers of glass, drywall and wood products, who reduced output during the slump, are testing the vigor of the rebound by boosting prices before committing to restore capacity.’
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-24/housing-rebound-in-u-s-hampered-by-own-success-as-costs-climb.html
Anywhere, everywhere. $60/sq ft.
Wasn’t it $57.50?
Ahhh, who can keep track of random baseless claims, anyway…
You can buy some very nice houses on very nice land for $75/ft-2 in one of my towns.
Why buy a used up house for $75/ when you can build it new for 60?
Straw Man.
What’s a straw man? Like a scarecrow?
Fascinating…
Indeed Spock.
Straw Man
Hay man?
Fascinating……
just sayin….
Circular…
Just sayin’…
… Fascinating……
Hay man…… don’t fall into that moon crater.
……. Fascinating……
Hay Man.
Scary thought:
Is macboy a roboblogger?
Straw Man. Go figure…
Hay man! Whutz happnin?
During the trough, I heard the costs of production builders as low as $38psf.
I’ve spoken to a couple of different guys on the industrial side of the business over the past few months. According to them, on an apples-apples comparison basis, costs to build industrial today are about what they were at the peak in 2007.
“industrial”? “builders”?
You’re so clueless you don’t know how to hide it.
Tactic 1 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “Ad Hominem Insult”.
Just sayin’…
Industrial side of the business…ie. warehouses/distribution/flex space, etc. not housing. (both people are in a position to know quite well what it costs to build industrial properties)
Production Builders…ie. public homebuilders (Pulte, etc.)
RAL never lets facts get in the way of his opinions…
Liars never let truth get in the way of their housing religion.
“industrial”. lmao
I imagine industrial building is a lot cheaper because it has a lot less plumbing and less wall material per sq foot? And I guess it’s easier to meet code for places where there are no sleeping quarters.
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t cheaper–after all, most big warehouses only have 5-10% of their space as office. However, you also have to consider the overall size…most modern industrial distribution buildings have 28 foot clear heights (ie. stack product VERY high; lots of concrete in the walls), and modern sprinkler systems (ESFR), and in some cases, heavy floor load requirements (lots of concrete and steel under foot).
My point was simply this:
Construction costs, after falling considerably in 2008-2010 have rebounded, and in the case of industrial construction, are back to where they were in 2007.
BTW Ox, whether the industrial is cheaper or not (as compared to building a basic house) really depends on what you are building. If you are building a massive building, intended for one user? Almost certainly cheaper per square foot.
However, if you are building a much smaller building that is intended to be for many different tenants (multiple bathrooms, lots of interior walls, etc.), it can easily be more expensive.
LOL…
And you two clowns know this how?
Construction costs, after falling considerably in 2008-2010 have rebounded
You can scream this fallacy all day long but it doesn’t make it truthful.
The truth?
Labor, down.
Div2 Materials down.
Div3 Materials down.
Div 4 materials down.
Div 5 materials flat.
Div 6 materials down.
Div 7 materials down.
Div 8 materials down.
Div 9 materials down.
Div 15 materials flat.
Div 16 materials flat.
And one more truth? You’re lying about your construction and contracting background.
Tactic 6 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “When you have nothing of substance to offer in debate, cry ‘Liar’”
Tactic 1 from the Losing Debater’s Manual: “”When you have nothing of substance to offer in debate, attempt to divert with Ad Hominem Insult” (as per… “clown”)
Just sayin’…
HayMan.
I have never claimed to be a contractor. Nor will I.
We invest in projects where we hire contractors. Construction costs are simply one part of the overall cost of a transaction (if we are developing new as opposed to buying existing). In our work, we have gotten to know lots of folks who perform construction management for major corporations, and people who are active at high levels at large real estate companies.
BTW, Zillow has updated their numbers as of the end of March. Check your “prices are collapsing” meme.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, period.
obama recruiting more takers to the free sh1t army
http://m.washingtonpost.com/national/in-florida-a-food-stamp-recruiter-deals-with-wrenching-choices/2013/04/23/b3d6b41c-a3a4-11e2-9c03-6952ff305f35_story.html
food stamp photo gallery
http://m.washingtonpost.com/national/the-snap-program-in-florida/2013/04/23/e68375c4-a54a-11e2-8302-3c7e0ea97057_gallery.html
to be fair, it’s the state of FL and the counties that pay the food stamp recruiters.
that said, it’s the federal taxpayer who is arguably ripped off.
Why do you say that federal taxpayer is getting ripped off? Do you consider the whole program to be a giant rip-off?
Considering that there were only like 20,000 people on food stamps the day GWB left office, and today there are over 50 million, yes it is a big ripoff.
Forward
IIRC, food stamp participation grew at a hefty clip under W’s watch.
“food stamp photo gallery”
Betcha those peeps spend their spare time “Keeping Up With the Kardashians.”
Dear gawd…
“Unfortunately, Treasury officials have an insufficient understanding of factors behind failures, according to the report.”
Welcome to SIGTARP
The Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), a sophisticated, white-collar law enforcement agency, was established by Congress in 2008 to prevent fraud, waste, and abuse linked to the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program
Quarterly Reports
April 24, 2013
http://www.sigtarp.gov/Pages/home.aspx
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“Troubled homeowners who received modified mortgages through a federal program are seeing high default rates, a troubling trend that officials inadequately understand, according to an investigator’s report released Wednesday.
The oldest permanent modifications made through the federal Home Affordable Modification Program, which launched in 2009, were redefaulting at a rate of 46.1% as of March 31, according to the report from the special inspector general overseeing the Treasury Department’s efforts to shore up the U.S. financial system. HAMP’s permanent modifications from 2010 have redefault rates ranging from 28.9% to 37.6%.
“The number of homeowners who have redefaulted on a HAMP permanent mortgage modification is increasing at an alarming rate,” the report said. “Treasury’s data shows that the longer a homeowner remains in HAMP, the more likely he or she is to redefault out of the program.”
Unfortunately, Treasury officials have an insufficient understanding of factors behind failures, according to the report.”
“which launched in 2009″
Do you remember what else started in 2009? On January 20, 2009?
Forward
Channeling Whac-a-bubble and AlbuquerqueDan
I expected this to happen a year from now. I am in the buying mode of quarter ounce American Eagles, so I am good for now. But another article about the enormous physical demand. I am predicting gold will go above $1800 spot price per ounce between now and the end of the year. ETFs are finished. When physical demand is the primary driver, the price plunges will be less severe than last week’s.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-23/u-s-mint-runs-out-of-smallest-american-eagle-gold-coin.html
buy a house.
Why buy it when you can rent if for half the monthly cost?
you have a shot at some free equity when you own. with renting your not in the game.
RAL can create gold for $50 a troy ounce!
“free”? “Equity”?
Equity in a depreciating asset like a house is a fallacy…
And no…. we’re not gold dealers. But we build houses and supply the market for $55-60/sq ft.
If you paid more than $50/sq ft for a used up house, you paid too much.
Don’t take a hosing on housing. Resale housing prices are massively inflated.
home prices have nowhere to go but up thx to all the cash sloshing around.people are feeling richer thx to the wealth effect.
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEYRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH!!!
What was that?!
You know that house you made the mistake of buying? Well the value of it just fell through the floor leaving a smoldering moon-crater.
Beware reading public. Beware.
A home all the way from china?
http://www.axisindustrial.com/modular-homes
Why bother importing a depreciating house when we have 25 MILLION empty ones here already?
Japan is shaping up to be a ticking time bomb. They have already declared a currency war.
Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe declares Japan never started WWII.
“Abe told lawmakers on Tuesday that he does not believe Japan’s occupation of other Asian countries during World War II can be considered “invasions.”
Abe claimed there are no set international or academic definitions of the word. “It depends on the point of view of individual countries,” he said.”
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/04/24/2013042401169.html
I don’t like buying Chinese products and I’m putting Japan on my sh*t list too. Screw Toyota, Honda and Nissan.
so how does it end? Been working for them for over 20 years. issue new bonds to pay off the old ones and kick the can down the road.
people still have food on the table and roofs over their heads.
what makes a currency fail?
For a sovereign country it can’t fail. As mentioned elsewhere on the blog they might try a reverse split and issue new Yen at a 10 to 1 exchange rate.
Abe is re-writing the Japan constitution. Taking out the parts about restricting their use of their military and adding in language that seems to be modeled after our 1798 Alien & Sedition Act where it makes it a federal crime to criticize the government. I noticed they don’t plan to let private citizens own weapons either.
Just hope your debt is in your local currency when the fiat currency fails. If Greece has the ability to print Euros it could have continued for many more years. Except for important distinction that we owe our debt in dollars, we are as broke as Greece. However, that distinction does not prevent the fall it only delays the fall.
People lose confidence in it because too much of the currency has been printed. Not worth a continental was a phrase from our history because during the Revolutionary war so much currency was printed that it became worthless. It did work for a while, it paid the troops, bought weapons etc. Bought the people that hung on to it lost all. After the war, the only way people were going to accept US money was if it was backed by gold or initially was made from silver or gold.
but were still here. seems like that confidence is key. once you lose it how do you get it back?
Only by backing it with something tangible. Honestly, it can be silver, palladium and platinum and does not have to be gold but gold has worked for thousands of years and can work again. I fully expect sometime in the near future either China or Russian will back its currency with gold and allow people to exchange the currency for gold and that will become the new reserve currency in the world and the dollar will plunge in value since it will not be used to set the price of oil, the new reserve currency will. When it happens I suggest we put Obama on our new one million dollar bill (which will have the buying power of a Benjamin) since he will have played the leading role in destroying the value of the dollar.
hasnt oil backed the dollar since the 70’s?
Yes on an unofficial basis. When countries talk about accepting payment in something else like Iraq and Iran, they usual find themselves facing invasion. But correlation does not prove causation, I would not want to be labeled a conspiracy person by the board. Seriously, there is no prohibition in place at least that the public can see to using something other than dollars but we have clearly benefitted from the purchase of oil being cleared in dollars.
I know the FED buys bonds with digital dollars. Does it make a difference if they never actually print the money?
I want to see how long it will take to mop up all the old $100 bills. If the old bills disappear in just a few months that would lead credence to the idea that the FED digital printing has minimal effect on the money in circulation and inflation.
Something to watch this October.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130424/NEWS07/304240092/new-100-bill-one-hundred-dollar-bill
I want to see how long it will take to mop up all the old $100 bills.
Just imagine what might happen if the Federal Reserve were to declare that all physical $100 bills printed before a certain year would lose their value at a given deadline unless & until exchanged for new $100 bills printed after the deadline.
All those bills piled up in drug runner’s vaults & similar unsavory places around the globe would have to be exchanged or to be somehow washed (and not digitally) in order to retain their value.
I think this could be done, although perhaps some laws would have to be changed. It wouldn’t affect me in the least. I don’t use $100 bills, or if I did, exchanging them would not be a problem.
It would be one way to destroy the 6 billion(?) in cash missing in Iraq.
It would be one way to destroy the 6 billion(?) in cash missing in Iraq.
It would be a GREAT way to do that.
I could never figure out why we did not do that the last time we changed the $100 bill. Iran and North Korea were counterfeiting the bills so it made sense.
Didn’t the U.S. have a blockade in place before Pearl Harbor?
Blockade no. An embargo on items that could help Japan slaughter the Chinese including their civilians yes.
We embargoed oil to Japan.
What’s the magic with inflation? How does inflation create jobs?
I came across this article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-22/bernanke-peer-quits-in-sweden-as-inflation-targeting-tested.html
From the article: “A former colleague of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke has given up trying to persuade his fellow central bankers in Sweden to cut interest rates.
Svensson, who taught together with Bernanke at Princeton University more than a decade ago, has spent the years since the onset of the global financial crisis arguing that Sweden’s failure to spur inflation has killed jobs. Annual headline inflation accelerated to zero in March from minus 0.2 percent a month earlier and has been below target since January 2012.”
And then it occurred to me how the Fed is wrong on inflation: Inflation doesn’t create jobs, it’s a side effect of a hot economy. Economists see the Philips curve, and they think, “Wow, look at that. High inflation correlates with low unemployment. I guess that means high inflation causes low unemployment.” A classic post hoc ergo proper hoc logical fallacy (”Because of this, that”). I’m not the first to reach this conclusion.
There are two types of inflation - demand-pull, when high demand drives prices higher, and cost-push, when higher costs drive prices higher. The Fed’s money printing hopes to generate the latter type.
Inflation doesn’t create jobs, but high employment does create inflation.
Of course, the “high inflation to create jobs” meme might just be a canard, and the real desire for inflation is the desire to inflate away the debt to a more desirable level. The “stealth tax” angle.
The government thinks inflating away people’s currency in bad times will force them to spend. No, it forces them to restrict spending even more , while the financial companies engage in speculation with the excess liquidity. The people are already spooked and in damage control mode. And expecting them to get into risky assets which are already frothy doesn’t make sense. And companies don’t spend money for fun. They spend it when they see demand for their product. So they too are sitting on their record stacks of cash, in damage-control mode. With inflation or deflation, if a company sees an opportunity to increase profits, it’s going to spend. If it doesn’t see that, it won’t.
If however, they were to spark a strong inflation with no end in sight, then people would likely start buying anything they could get their hands on. So, low inflation might cause them to pull back even more, whereas high inflation might drive them to spend like the Fed wants. But that would cost most politicians their jobs:
“The flight from currency that had begun with the buying of diamonds, gold, country houses, and antiques now extended to minor and almost useless items — bric-a-brac, soap, hairpins. The law-abiding country crumbled into petty thievery. Copper pipes and brass armatures weren’t safe. Gasoline was siphoned from cars. People bought things they didn’t need and used them to barter — a pair of shoes for a shirt, some crockery for coffee. Berlin had a “witches’ Sabbath” atmosphere. Prostitutes of both sexes roamed the streets. Cocaine was the fashionable drug. In the cabarets the newly rich and their foreign friends could dance and spend money. Other reports noted that not all the young people had a bad time. Their parents had taught them to work and save, and that was clearly wrong, so they could spend money, enjoy themselves, and flout the old.”
– from a PBS documentary on the Weimar Hyperinflation.
But, if the central banks wishes to create an environment where the currency is losing value so it’s better to buy junk now - that is playing with political fire.
We’ve got five years of data. We’ve got central banks driving economic policy, and their view is more debt is the key to economic growth, as a global debt crisis continues to smolder. They’re banks, and they have a bank-centric view, they can’t help it. Their focus is on the banks and the financial sector. And that’s doing fine, buying and selling logical constructs, with their rich Uncle Fed spending money on them and ready to bail them out should things go south.
Bernanke’s has degree from MIT. He’s a smart guy. He said that aggregate statistics can mask important details. But he’s a creature of the economic orthodoxy. And the orthodoxy says that more inflation means more employment. However, I find it hard to believe someone like him and Krugman would mix up cost-push and demand-pull inflation. And mistake what is the driving variable (employment), and what is the dependent, resultant variable (inflation). I have to conclude all the inflation talk is an effort to reduce the value of the debt, under the cover of increasing employment happy talk.
why save any money in the bank when they give you no interest and the value is of your money is eaten away by inflation?
The policies being implemented force you to stash your cash in assets that hopefully appreciate, stocks and homes.
Stocks for the wealthy and homes for the avg joe.
The avg joe can no longer afford a house.
72,000,000 people, or almost half the entire US workforce, make $500 a week or less.
I don’t think you can even buy a mobile home with that income any more.
u might be able to find a used mobile home but the biggest problem is finding somewhere to put it.
So are these people stuck renting forever?
Why is finding a place to put it a problem? 95% of the globe goes undeveloped and lot costs are a mere pittance.
Ecofeco, there are 134 million people currently employed, your 72MM inplies 144MM…are you including retired folks in your income analysis?
The average weekly earnings are a bit over $800 (I recognize that this is not the median).
Where do you get your numbers?
Since households buy homes typically, not individuals, have you looked at the median household income?
Per the US Census, median household income in 2011 was $50k.
Gov stats say 156,000,000 in the workforce.
I don’t know what that includes and it’s pointless to split hairs.
Exactly half is 78,000,000.
72,000,000 is very close to half.
Divide the remainder between all the rest of the income groups, and it’s obvious that the 72,000,000 represent the majority.
Household income is too vague. Is that one earner or 3? Individual income tells the true story.
For more info, google it.
Median and average incomes, from 1990 to 2011, from the Social Security Administration:
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/central.html
I’d guess that if 500/week is at the 45th (or so) percentile, then the true 50th % isn’t that much higher. A normal distribution is very “bunched” around its midrange.
72 million would roughly equal 47% of 156 million.
You would be right.
Again, median and avg income stats mean nothing. They exist only to cloud the issue: that most Americans are poor and the middle class was (relatively) short lived.
How do renters come into play? People who live with their parents? People at the end of their careers with paid off houses, but collecting unemployment for as long as they can before they hang it up (don’t laugh, my uncle fits this category)?
I’ll say this again:
The median income household does not buy the median house.
If you make the simple assumption that in general, the higher your income, the higher the likelihood that you own a home, you can see pretty quickly that the median income/median home falls on it’s face.
In CA as an example, the homeownership rate is only about 54%. So, the median income is generally buying the lowest priced homes around in CA (probably the lowest 25% of homes).
I don’t think you can even buy a mobile home with that income any more.
A couple of days ago I talked with one of the laborers on my recently completed roof job. He lives within a reasonable of my home.
He said he had recently bought a used double-wide for $15,000. He lives there with his wife. His lot rent was about $200 a month, which included water, sewage and trash pickup. I just ran a spread sheet on my monthly expenditures for real estate taxes, water, sewage and trash pickup: $308. I consider his share of real estate taxes included in his lot rent.
I haven’t analyzed this further, but I think his housing is affordable.
You can’t save money until you can give up on keeping up with the Jones, in every form that can take. As long as you have that need, they will use it to screw you out of every penny. As soon as you get over that need, you can find ways to live cheap.
I just ran a spread sheet on my monthly expenditures for real estate taxes, water, sewage and trash pickup:
Correcting a mistaken spreadsheet entry, should read $203, the same as the laborer’s double-wide lot rental.
It’s mathematically impossible to grow our way out of this. Lets just incorporate the government as USA Inc. then declare bankruptcy and start over.
you know it always seems that when a currency fails they always follow it up by issueing another. your previous fiat is exchanged for the new fiat by you get fewer of the new bills.
Just replace the old hundred dollar bill with a one Amero bill featuring a picture of Alan Greenspan, and start over…
I found a house even you can afford:
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-tiny-new-tricycle-house-2013-1?op=1
Awesome. If you put these in West Delray Beach and price them at $300K, you’ll 74 of them in 2 hours.
As my comparison, it’s looking very 2005ish around here. Scary stuff.
I found a house even you can afford:
LOL! That should work just fine with the new paradigm of a mobile workforce!
For the record, the reason we don’t buy a house isn’t because we can’t “afford” one; rather, it is cheaper to rent, especially if you factor in the housing price declines which I expect will occur once the Fed unwinds its balance sheet.
WillHow will the Fed unwind the trade?Fed’s Balance Sheet swells to $3.2 Trillion
By Brent Nyitray, Sr Real Estate Analyst • Apr 16, 2013
The Fed’s balance sheet rose to over $3 trillion in Q1 as quantitative easing goes into overdrive
The fed’s asset purchase program, also know as quantitative easing (QE) has swelled the Fed’s balance sheet from under $1 trillion pre-crisis to an all-time high of $3.2 trillion. The Fed has pursued this strategy in order to drive down long-term interest rates. The Fed is able to set rates at the short end of the yield curve directly by setting a target rate for the Federal Funds rate. However, they have historically been powerless to determine long term rates. Quantitative easing was the Fed’s answer to “What else can we do once interest rates are zero?”
In response to the crisis, the Fed first lowered short term interest rates, and then conducted “Operation Twist,” which was its first attempt to lower long-term interest rates. The Fed would sell its short-term Treasury notes and purchase longer dated Treasuries with the proceeds. The idea was that the Fed could maintain the same net financial exposure, while at at the same time push down longer term interest rates. After deciding that more needed to be done, the Fed pursued quantitative easing, by purchasing Treasuries and Mortgage Backed securities directly for its own balance sheet.
How will the Fed unwind the trade?
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April 23, 2013, 1:22 PM
Republicans Say Fed ‘Willfully’ Withholding Documents
By Eric Morath
Two House Republicans have threatened to subpoena the Federal Reserve for nonpublic documents on how the central bank plans to wind down its more than $3 trillion bond portfolio without harming the nation’s economy.
In a letter viewed by the Wall Street Journal, House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) told Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke that they were frustrated at the lack of response to a February request demanding more details on the central bank’s strategy to unwind assets purchased during years of its easy-money stimulus programs. The lawmakers say Mr. Bernanke continues to “willfully withhold” sensitive documents the committee has requested.
“The American people have a right to know the true risks associated with the expansion of the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter dated April 22. “The Fed’s obstruction and lack of transparency must stop.”
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Not only bonds, but also stocks and housing, will crash when the Fed gets around to “unwinding the trade.”
And I have a true confession to offer: I have recently flouted the advice in this article by purchasing shares of a bond fund. Since it was before the gold and Bitcoin crash, it has gone up in value. This is a small share of my overall portfolio, and I totally realize I am picking up nickels in front of steam rollers, though I can also envision a scenario (suggested by FPSS last fall) where the strategy pays off.
April 24, 2013, 12:01 a.m. EDT
10 investing rules for the coming bond crash
Commentary: Warning: Your bond funds could lose 25%
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — “The best piece of advice I could give long-term investors today is don’t own bonds. And if you do own them, you probably ought to move out of them,” warns Charles Ellis, acclaimed author of the classic “Winning the Loser’s Game: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing.”
Get it? Do not own bonds. Sell. Move out now.
Sound familiar? You bet. Ellis’ warning came during a CNN/Money interview with Penelope Wang, just one month after the cover of InvestmentNews was screaming the same warning in huge bold type: “Tick, Tick … Boom!”
In that “special report on the impending crisis in the bond market,” InvestmentNews the newspaper of record for 90,000 professional advisers, I-News was predicting a “bond bomb” will explode, asking rhetorically: “What will your clients’ portfolios look like when the bond bomb goes off?” Answer: Bonds will crash, with huge loses.
When the Fed raises rates, your bonds could lose 25%.
Here are the numbers: “Right now the Federal Reserve is set on keeping rates down,” explains Ellis, because “the yield on a 10-year Treasury bond is under 2%. When yields go back to their historical average of 5.5%, an intermediate bond fund could go down 25% in value.”
Remember that warning when Bernanke and the Fed signal the next rate increase, because it is coming. And sooner than you think. But unfortunately, Wall Street insiders, 90,000 advisers and America’s 95 million Main Street investors with trillions in retirement accounts are in denial of that highly likely event … why else are the warnings getting so loud?
What happens after the crash? Investors will get hit hard: Ellis says “people who are putting their retirement money into [so-called] safe-bonds can get hurt badly,” echoing I-News warning “when the bond bomb goes off.”
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April 24, 2013, 10:53 a.m. EDT
Everything you ‘know’ about the Fed is wrong
Commentary: 5 misconceptions about the effects of QE and monetary policy
By Mark Dow and Michael Sedacca
Reuters
Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke makes remarks at a news conference last month.
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Few would still argue against the assertion that the Federal Reserve has been central to the financial stabilization and economic recovery from the 2008 crisis.
It fixed the plumbing and are now trying to incentivize animal spirits to pump water through the pipes. The debate has now migrated to exit strategies and whether the accumulating side effects of exceptional monetary accommodation outweigh incremental benefits. Read Minyanville’s “The Givers and Takers of the Boston Bombings.”
Nonetheless, it is the Fed, so views are heated, and many mis-perceptions persist. The concept of money-printing resonates strongly and intuitively with almost everyone, but most of the intuitive reactions to the Fed’s quantitative easing are turning out to have been wrong. Here are some of the major myths that linger.
Money printing increases the money supply
The Fed does not control the money supply; they control base money (or inside money), which is a small fraction of the broader money supply. In our fractional reserve system, the banks (loosely defined) control the other 90% or so of the money supply (a.k.a. outside money). And the banks have not been lending. This is why the money supply has not grown rapidly in response to years now of QE.
QE is ‘pumping cash into the stock market’
The truth is, little of this money finds its way into the stock market. When the Fed implements QE, they are buying low-risk U.S. Treasurys and agency mortgages from the market, mostly from banks. About 82% of the money the Fed has injected since QE started has been re-deposited with the Fed as excess reserves. With the remaining 18%, banks have tended to buy other fixed income assets of a slightly riskier nature — moving out on the risk spectrum for a bank doesn’t mean jumping into equities, especially given the near-death experience that most of them have just experienced.
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QE will create runaway inflation
“Yet” has become the favorite word of the inflationistas. As in, “Oh, it’ll come, just hasn’t yet.” And the magnitude of that expected inflation has been dialed down from “hyperinflation” to “high inflation.”
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QE is the reason we have high oil/gasoline prices
This very deeply held view is just as deeply mistaken. As the chart here shows, post crisis/post QE, oil prices on average (red line) have gyrated around $80 to 90 per barrel with no ascending trend. The ascending trend came well before we knew what QE even was, in the 2002-2007 period. And the most rapid phase of its rise took place as the Fed was raising rates from 2004-2006.
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QE has debased the dollar
Good luck convincing people this hasn’t been the case. This is an excellent example of repeating a falsehood until it becomes accepted as true.
Again, roll tape…
This chart shows the trade-weighted broad-dollar average. It, much like the oil chart referenced above, shows all the action took place before QE and the crisis. From 2002 to 2007, the Big Dollar, as currency specialists like to call it, depreciated some 20%. And the fastest depreciation came…that’s right, when the Fed was raising policy rates. Since the crisis oil has been roughly unchanged, with gyrations suspiciously similar to those of oil. Read Minyanville’s “Microsoft’s Solid Quarter Solidifies Rally.”
Bottom line
Anyone alleging debasement is working from hearsay and priors, not the scorecard. And there are some pretty high-profile people still throwing around the ‘debasement’ word.
In fairness, the Fed did assume that their exceptional monetary accommodation might result in some depreciation of the dollar. But because the U.S. is a closed economy (exports and imports make up a relatively small share of GDP) the Fed felt — correctly in my view — that it should be setting monetary conditions based on the larger domestic economy. And if dollar depreciation were to ensue, so the thinking went, it would at the margin be positive for U.S. growth, as long as the depreciation was orderly.
Why, then, did the dollar depreciate so much in the 2002-2007 period? For pretty much the same reasons that the price of oil went higher: It was a period of risk-taking, leverage, and deepening optimism regarding emerging markets. All three factors led to dollar selling — and that was well before QE ever made its first appearance in the U.S.
In sum, much of the received wisdom surrounding the Fed and the effects of its actions is misplaced. Through repetition and ex-ante biases, deep misunderstandings have become engrained in market psychology.
Importantly however, the recent rise in the dollar and fall in commodities suggest that these long-held misguided views are becoming dislodged. There is plenty of risk ahead and the Fed’s task is far from easy or over. But the Fed, for the most part, is ahead of the curve. Make sure you and your views don’t get caught behind it.
that was a great article. It points out a lot of misconceptions.
The FED buys the bonds from the 21 primary dealers. The banks make their money by buying up bonds in anticipation of the FEDS buying.
It must be nice that the banks dont lend money out but rather choose to gamble in stocks and commodities. you dont think oil prices are speculated on by all this hot money? Hey if they are making more money gambling why loan out to people?
They really need to get these banks out of the gambling business and back into lending.
“Hey if they are making more money gambling why loan out to people?”
Right, and it’s not the Fed’s fault, as the Fed didn’t put a gun to any megabankster’s head and force him to gamble on commodities and housing…
Most people don’t put guns to their own heads. Or those of friends and family.
Here is another view of why inflation hasn’t taken off.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/04/the-inflation-dog-didnt-bark-but-what-about-the-others.html
“… the stability of inflation reflects the success of inflation-targeting central banks in anchoring inflation expectations and, thus inflation”.
In other words it’s not the inflation you actually experience but the idea that there won’t be inflation in the future that keeps the game going on and on.
“In other words it’s not the inflation you actually experience but the idea that there won’t be inflation in the future that keeps the game going on and on.”
The inflation myth isn’t difficult to suss because we feel it on a regular basis. Most families have four major outlays to contend with, and each of them have experienced double digit inflation: housing, transportation, medical insurance and upper education. However we are told that inflation is non-existent. I’ve given up looking at official data as I believe that most of it has been cooked. I didn’t understand the gold price drop either, but I’m certain there was an official manipulation behind it.
The price of oil was as low as $35 after the crash in 2008, it would not have gone back up so fast without QE. The 80 to 90 figure is for WTI which is held down by a local glut due to fracking. I think the article is more opinion than fact and I have a very different opinion. Every time another QE is announced oil shoots up and it has fallen the last three months on rumors that QE will end.
“I think the article is more opinion than fact and I have a very different opinion.”
I’m with you there.
However, our views of QE3 may differ. Many view it as inflationary; I view it as counter-deflationary, serving to prop up prices in order to stave off the deflationary collapse which started in Fall 2008.
I view it as counter-deflationary, serving to prop up prices in order to stave off the deflationary collapse which started in Fall 2008.
So do I.
If you are talking about the stock market and the housing market, I agree. However, it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.
it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.
There is a difference between inflation and simply higher prices. Many formerly dirt-poor in places like China can now afford better food and can drive around in cars. Increased demand = increase prices. That is not inflation in economic terms. Not that my distinction matters either way for people left behind by the globalization mania.
ABD: “However, it has caused real inflation in food and fuels.”
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Tresho: “There is a difference between inflation and simply higher prices.”
I agree with Tresho on this. The dollar was deliberately devalued by the Fed in order to stave off deflation (an uncontrolled increase in the value of the dollar relative to the price of goods and services). It seems quite likely the Fed did not deliberately try to increase the price of food at a time when many American households faced stagnating wages at best or unemployment; rather it is more likely the increase in food prices was collateral damage of the effort to stop deflation in its tracks.
In summary, though food was repriced to higher levels in dollar terms, there is little or no evidence of a wage-price spiral taking hold as one did during a protracted period of double-digit U.S. inflation in the 1970s. Rather the Fed is targeting, though not achieving, a relatively meager 2% annual inflation rate.
“Every time another QE is announced oil shoots up and it has fallen the last three months on rumors that QE will end.”
And conversely, all the Fed needs to do is to offer the slightest hint that QE will end some day in the foreseeable future to cause the prices of gold, stocks, Bitcoin and other risk assets to crash.
Where does Mr. Hedgehog cover that dynamic in his “Nobody understands the Fed better than I do” rant?
Finally an MSM bull case for gold which I can agree with!
April 24, 2013, 8:31 a.m. EDT
Be bullish on gold as long as chaos reigns
Commentary: Until the global economy is fixed, gold looks good
By Matthew Lynn
LONDON (MarketWatch) — Was the rout in the gold market this month the signal that the long-term bull market in the precious metal is over?
Or was it the kind of volatility you would expect in an asset that doesn’t have any intrinsic value, but is mainly held because investors have lost faith with every other investment?
The private investors might be heading for the exit, but the professionals are buying on weakness. Hedge funds and money managers significantly increased their holdings in the past week, according the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
So who is right? The professionals. If you step back from the day-to-day noise, gold (GCM3 +0.41%) is still a long-term bull market. It has been rising in value for the last decade because of a deadly trio of long-term fundamental fractures in the global economy. Until they are fixed — and that is still at least another decade away — gold is still a core part of any portfolio.
Gold is traditionally sold as a bet on rampant inflation. If central bankers are determined to keep printing more and more money, and if bankrupt governments are forced to inflate away their debts, runs the argument, then gold, as the easiest available alternative to cash, should keep on rising in value.
In fact, that argument is looking more threadbare with every month that passes.
The great bull market in gold started in the early 2000s, and came against a backdrop of relatively low inflation. When prices were genuinely running out of control in the 1970s, gold didn’t do very well. Meanwhile, you’ve more chance of finding a job in Athens than you have any evidence for sustained inflation — it just isn’t there.
So the precious metal is not a great hedge against inflation, and there isn’t much of that around anyway to protect yourself against. That may well explain why at least some investors have started heading for the exit.
That would be a mistake. What gold really represents is a bet on economic chaos — and unfortunately there is plenty of that to come. The global economy faces three huge challenges — and each of them, when you look at them closely, are bullish for gold.
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FT MARKETS from MARKETS
ECB: Don’t take calm markets for granted
5:30 AM Jörg Asmussen, an executive board member of the European Central Bank, says the effectiveness of a rate cut would be limited, warns that the calm in markets can’t be taken for granted and says the ECB is looking at unconventional monetary measures. He also discusses with FT capital markets editor Ralph Atkins the change in Japan’s monetary policy, the Cyprus bailout and lending problems to small business. (5m 5sec)
Ben Bernanke To Skip Jackson Hole Conference, Hinting At Departure
By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER 04/22/13 05:21 PM ET EDT AP
Ben Bernanke Term Ends
WASHINGTON — Ben Bernanke is intensifying speculation that this year will be his last as Federal Reserve chairman by deciding to skip the Fed’s annual August conference in Jackson Hole, Wyo.
Jackson Hole has long been a high-profile platform for speeches by Fed chairmen. Since taking over the Fed in 2006, Bernanke has been the marquee speaker each year. In 2010, he used his speech to signal that the Fed could launch another bond-buying program. Stock prices jumped in response to his remarks.
His second four-year term will end in January, and neither he nor President Barack Obama has signaled whether Bernanke will serve a third term.
The Jackson Hole retreat, sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, will be held Aug. 22-24. A Fed spokesman said Monday that Bernanke won’t attend because of a “personal scheduling conflict.” The spokesman didn’t elaborate.
Tim Duy, an economics professor at the University of Oregon and author of the FedWatch blog, said Bernanke’s decision suggests that he’ll leave the Fed in January.
“I wonder if that indicates what we all believe,” Duy said.
All eyes at the conference will likely instead focus on the Fed’s vice chair, Janet Yellen, who is widely considered the front-runner to succeed Bernanke. Yellen, who previously led the San Francisco Fed, was appointed vice chair by Obama. Yellen has been a vocal supporter of Bernanke’s low interest rate policies, and her selection would suggest that the Fed would continue those policies.
And if Yellen is the keynote speaker at Jackson Hole this year, “that would just confirm her front-runner status,” said Zach Pandl, an economist at Columbia Management, an asset management firm.
Pandl said it’s even possible Bernanke could inform the White House of his intention to leave, and Obama could publicly tap Yellen to succeed him, before Jackson Hole.
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This problem emerged for the Fed previously during the Great Depression. The term the chairman at the time, LDS Church member and Logan, UT banker Mariner Eccles, coined for the phenomenon was ‘pushing on the string.’
The persistence of this phenomenon for a number of years already has not stopped monetary policy poker champion Ben Bernanke from pretending to hold a Royal Flush at all times, even though his hand doesn’t actually even contain a pair of deuces.
Can hedge fund managers really be so fawkin’ ST00PID that they don’t understand the fundamental inverse relationship between asset prices and interest rates?
Hard to believe, but apparently so…
More evidence that my estimate that only 14% of the global warming between 1978 and 1998 was man made was spot on:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/22/climate_sensitivity_down_down/
During those 20 years about 40 ppm of co2 was added to the atmosphere which would have been just over a 10% increase in the ppm in the atmosphere. A doubling of the ppm would cause less than a 2C increase in the temperature. 10% would just be around .2 c. As the article says it will take a long time for man to meaningfully change the temperature. Let us just hope that man put enough co2 in the air to offset the decline in solar activity or the late Spring this year will become the norm.
This paper doesn’t refute CO2 induced warming just the atmospheric sensitivity response. I would point out that one of the main skeptic blogs has found several errors in the Nic Lewis paper.
http://rankexploits.com/musings/2013/the-truth-is-out-there-comment-on-the-dimple-part-i-of-iii/
You might find this interesting:
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2013/04/sudden-stratospheric-warmings-causes-effects.html
It looks like the skeptics are relying on more La Niña.
“Scientists estimate that the last time CO2 was as high as 400 ppm was probably the Pliocene epoch, between 3.2 million and 5 million years ago, when Earth’s climate was much warmer than today.”
http://scrippsnews.ucsd.edu/Releases/?releaseID=1347
I don’t refute co2 warming either, I just realize that it is about 14% of what Hansen claimed in the 1980’s and we are not facing a 1C per decade increase like Al Gore was claiming. I have objected to the overstating of the problem to justify things like a co2 tax which was really just a way for governments to get more revenue from the poor and middle class and provide a mechanism to fund world government. Let address real environmental issues such as what China is doing to the world’s environment and ignore what is by and large a beneficial gas. But that works against the globalists and not for them so we will expend all our efforts on reducing co2 emissions within the US and Europe that actually burn coal relatively cleanly.
I’m with you on getting China/India to cut back on their pollution. One thing to keep in mind though, the western industrial world had a 50 year head start in loading the atmosphere with CO2 and most of it is still there. Developing countries think they should be cut a lot of slack on emissions until they catch up with us. I can see their point.
Sorry China is up to about burning 4 billion tons of dirty coal per year compared to our burning of 1 billion tons with the use of scrubbers. I think they have caught up with us in the amount of co2 that they have put into the air. However, it is the arsenic, so2, mercury and other true pollutants that I am worried about and I don’t see why we have to give them a free ride. Making them clean up would help our competiveness and make the world cleaner, that is a true win/win and should be our policy. We could raise tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars with a tariff on their dirty products. So what if they do not buy our bonds anymore, it is better not to run the deficit in the first place.
Dan you’re making too much sense. My head is EXPLODING!!!
Look many of my views have been twisted on this blog, I am not against environmental protection and in fact have had jobs protecting the environment. To tell a Joe like story, I once interviewed at a major natural resource law firm. Essentially, I had the job and just had to be cleared by the senior partner. It was going well until he asked this question: Do you think that Newt Gingrich is trying to gut the endangered species act? I knew that he wanted an answer such as no he is just trying to make it more sensible and not unduly burden industry. But I realized that I was going to be just like a criminal defense attorney if I accepted the position so I gave a one word answer, yes. They could not get me out of their fast enough. The biblical admonishment about just saying yes or no everything else was from the devil came to me. I could have made more money in my career had I taken the position but I doubt I would have 116/74 blood pressure if I had to live the lie every day. I do not know how Joe works where he works with his beliefs. I know I could not survive in such a situation and took another path.
I doubt I would have 116/74 blood pressure if I had to live the lie every day. I do not know how Joe works where he works with his beliefs. I know I could not survive in such a situation and took another path.
These things do matter.
This seems like a case of mass delusion. I can’t help but notice there seems to to be a correlation between FED QE money printing (inflation?) and the relentless rise in CO2 emissions that should be pushing up atmospheric temperatures. On paper we should be seeing a lot of inflation/warming but the official numbers show nearly flat inflation (the pause?). In the long run we know one day the music will stop and interest rates will rise sharply. It could be the same thing with global temperatures if El Niño comes back strong next year.
I have no doubt that we could set a record with a major El Nino event next year but it would not be even .1c warmer than the last record which is no where near the 1C per decade alarmist case. The AMO still has not gone into a cooling phase so we have not cooled enough to prevent that but it will not change the fact that the correlation between co2 and warming is much weaker now that we have had another 15 years of data. If the projections for sunspot activity or lack there of prove true than we are looking at global cooling not global warming. One Russian scientist is predicting a 1.5C decline by 2050. I do not know how anyone can predict solar cycles that far out so I am not convinced. However, I am convinced that the models created in the 1980s have been proven to be terrible about predicting the future.
And when I say a record I mean a modern record. Go back a thousand years and we would still be warmer then which was caused by clearly natural cycles.
Al Gore has been blowing so much snow out of his a$$ lately that we’re going to ski two days this weekend. Saturday we’re going to burn up half a tank of gas rolling up to Loveland in a Nissan Pathfinder, then Sunday we’re going to burn up another half a tank of gas rolling up to Arapahoe Basin in a Ford Explorer.
Don’t forget to buy your carbon offsets from Al, he needs to pay his large utility bills for his big inefficient house. I have a small energy efficient house but he tells everyone that co2 is going to kill the planet. It is more than a little ironic.
This is reminding me of 1995. A-basin was open through July.
part of the article states: The differences may not sound like a lot. But the global mean temperature has risen by around a degree since 1850, and the current CO2 concentration is rising by a mere 2 ppm (parts per million) annually - it’s around 390ppm at present. Any changes will be slow, giving policy makers and technologists a long time to prepare, and develop economical low-carbon alternatives.
The objection to short-term measures is that renewable sources of energy are not currently economically viable. As the firmly warmist Economist noted, if a mere 2°C rise over a long time scale is likely, then “perhaps the world should seek to adjust to (rather than stop) the greenhouse-gas splurge. There is no point buying earthquake insurance if you do not live in an earthquake zone.”
There are reports that there were riots after France passed gay marriage but none of the MSM will identify the rioters. Here is a clue: http://www.eutimes.net/2013/04/beaten-gay-couple-who-walked-through-muslim-suburb-of-paris-causes-shock/
This is very difficult for the PC. What really is our future? Who do you think is going to breed faster Muslims or gays? Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.
And to think we could have had a Mormon bishop for president.
Just think where we would be if Truman hadn’t stopped MacArthur in 1951.
North Korea would not be making threats against us?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sword-wielding-lds-bishop-aid-neighbor-article-1.1325905
Is it me or does he look a little like Glenn Beck?
Mormons are known for their dull conformity.
Mormons are known for their dull conformity.
Never bring a Mormon bishop to a girl-friend beatdown.
I read somewhere that Postum can be found in supermarkets again. Maybe this guy over-indulged.
Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.”
Albuquerquedan if you have time read the book ” Flashback ” a fiction piece about the future in America.
It sounds like an interesting read.
It sounds like an interesting read.
If you haven’t already, read “A Canticle for Leibowitz” Great sci-fi novel written about a fictional future in the part of the US you live in.
What really is our future? Who do you think is going to breed faster Muslims or gays? Those that think that 50 years from now the US will be much more progressive since the old Christians will be dead, may be in for a terrible surprise.
We don’t know that. We can’t know that. All we can do is make our choices in the time available to us. That is all any human being has ever had.
11:11 am Apr 24, 2013
Credit
Pimco Unloads Spanish, Italian Debt
By Min Zeng
Pacific Investment Management Co., home to the world’s biggest bond fund, is cutting holdings of Italian and Spanish government bonds amid a sharp rally in the two markets this month.
The money management firm has “lightened up” in the past couple of weeks in the European debt as part of a broad reduction in exposure to riskier assets in the fixed income markets, said Andrew Balls, Pimco’s head of European portfolio management, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday.
Balls declined to specify the dollar amount Pimco has sold of Italy and Spain bonds. Pimco manages over $2 trillion in global assets.
Balls said the recent rally in prices of Italian and Spanish debt, which recently sent yields on 10-year debt to their lowest levels since 2010, was driven by liquidity from major central banks, which has overshadowed the euro zone’s economic and fiscal problems for the moment. Yields on bonds fall when prices rise.
“This central bank-inspired rally has made the markets more expensive,” said Balls. “Yields could go lower still in Spain and Italy but we have sold into the rally because we remain worried over the fundamenals (SIC) in the euro zone.”
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/22/uk-spain-population-idUKBRE93L0J420130422
Interesting and I think the declining population will make inflating the bubble much harder.
Good thing that could never happen here in the good ole U.S. of A.
How much do you think NAR and MBA pay the owner of Patrick.net?
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow inventory, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. Your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
“Buyers wait in line at Valencia Cove opening”
New Boynton community sells 73 homes in two hours
by Kim Miller
Wednesday, April 24th, 2013
Valencia Cove, a new GL Homes community in Boynton Beach, sold 73 homes in just two hours during its grand opening weekend.
When the dust settled, a total of 74 homes were sold on April 20-21 for a total of about $35 million.
Marcie DePlaza, division president for GL Homes, said she hadn’t expected so many eager buyers, some of whom were waiting in line when the sales office opened.
“This is our eighth Valencia community in Palm Beach County and there is tremendous pent up demand for lots, especially select lots,” DePlaza said. “We had more than 2,300 people on our waiting list to get more information about Valencia Cove.”
The 55-plus development located on Lyons Road between Boynton Beach Boulevard and Atlantic Avenue features a 39,000-square-foot clubhouse on more than 10 acres of recreation space. The 823 homes in the community are priced from nearly $400,000 to about $650,000.
DePlaza said construction will begin in the fall with the first homeowners moving in during the summer of 2014.
And Valencia Cove isn’t the only GL Homes community with a fan base.
The Bridges in Delray Beach opened new lots this week and had people camping out to get the best spaces. The average home in The Brides cost $850,000.
DePlaza said she took pizza to those camping out at The Bridges’ sales center.
“Their feeling was they had been waiting years for the right home, and people will wait in line for concert tickets, so why not camp out for the biggest purchase you’ll make in your life,” DePlaza said.
Many buyers, especially for the 55-plus communities, are baby-boomers from the Northeast readying for retirement.
“People have finally realized that there really is no inventory out there and the interest rates aren’t getting any better than they are now,” DePlaza said.
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http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/realtime/2013/04/24/new-boynton-community-sells-73-homes-in-first-two-hours-of-grand-opening/ - -
a new generation of suckers?
“Buyers wait in line at Valencia Cove opening”
If you have to line-up for it you’re getting screwed.
April 24, 2013, 12:01 a.m. EDT
10 investing rules for the coming bond crash
Commentary: Warning: Your bond funds could lose 25%
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — “The best piece of advice I could give long-term investors today is don’t own bonds. And if you do own them, you probably ought to move out of them,” warns Charles Ellis, acclaimed author of the classic “Winning the Loser’s Game: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing.”
Sound familiar? You bet. Ellis’ warning came during a CNN/Money interview with Penelope Wang, just one month after the cover of InvestmentNews was screaming the same warning in huge bold type: “Tick, Tick … Boom!”
In that “special report on the impending crisis in the bond market,” InvestmentNews the newspaper of record for 90,000 professional advisers, I-News was predicting a “bond bomb” will explode, asking rhetorically: “What will your clients’ portfolios look like when the bond bomb goes off?” Answer: Bonds will crash, with huge loses.
When the Fed raises rates, your bonds could lose 25%
Here are the numbers: “Right now the Federal Reserve is set on keeping rates down,” explains Ellis, because “the yield on a 10-year Treasury bond is under 2%. When yields go back to their historical average of 5.5%, an intermediate bond fund could go down 25% in value.”
Remember that warning when Bernanke and the Fed signal the next rate increase, because it is coming. And sooner than you think. But unfortunately, Wall Street insiders, 90,000 advisers and America’s 95 million Main Street investors with trillions in retirement accounts are in denial of that highly likely event … why else are the warnings getting so loud?
What happens after the crash? Investors will get hit hard: Ellis says “people who are putting their retirement money into [so-called] safe-bonds can get hurt badly,” echoing I-News warning “when the bond bomb goes off.”
Forget individual stocks, buy index funds
Wang then asked: “So they should be buying stocks?” Ellis was emphatic: Not stocks. “They should absolutely invest in a low-cost index fund … forget about stock-picking.”
Why no individual stocks? Very simple: The fact is that most investment advisers are losers. Or as Ellis more delicately puts it: “Most active managers underperform because of the fees.” In fact, 80% of all investment advisers lose money for their clients because “after fees, their returns end up being below the market.”
Yes, they are losers. They are losing their investors’ hard-earned retirement money. Solution: Investors should switch to index funds to save 30%. But year after year they remain in denial and just keep throwing away their hard-earned retirement money.
Most financial news is misleading. Why? Because it helps market insiders, the pros with itchy fingers who love short-term trading. They’re different from you and me. They spend all day tracking the markets with their sophisticated algorithms that think in milliseconds.
In time, most of them get it wrong: How else can you explain why in the first decade of the 21st century Wall Street has already triggered two $10 trillion crashes, two long recessions and an inflation-adjusted 20% market loss for Main Street’s retirement portfolios? And yet Wall Street’s cheerleaders just keep distracting investors with predictions of perpetual bull markets, ignoring the fact that we’re in the fifth year of an aging bull.
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April 22, 2013, 7:31 a.m. EDT
Before becoming a landlord, add up the costs
By Anya Martin, MarketWatch
One of life’s luxuries is being able to afford a vacation home. But don’t underestimate its true cost—especially if you plan to rent it out.
Doug Lebda, chief executive of Lending Tree, made a bigger down payment and pays higher interest rates because he plans to rent out the $960,000 beach condo he bought with his dad in Wilmington, N.C.
To get the three-bedroom unit, Lebda put down 25% of the purchase price and received an interest rate of 3.86% for a seven-year fixed/20-year adjustable-rate mortgage. He estimates that their interest rate is one-quarter percentage point higher because it is a second property, and an additional one-eighth percentage point higher because of their plan to rent.
“Everything across the board was tighter,” Lebda said. “Thankfully I was well within the guidelines for debt-to-income ratio and credit score.” The beach condo is a joint investment with his father, Bob, who has bought and managed rental properties for years. They expect to collect as much as $3,500 per week during peak summer season from vacationers, but before Lebda took out the mortgage from a bank in the Lending Tree network, he also calculated anticipated costs, including maintenance, marketing and insurance premiums.
“If you are smart about what you buy and you are really detailed about the costs, there are certainly opportunities out there which will be cash-flow positive,” Lebda said.
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Why does the MSM pay clueless writers to offer dumb financial advice?
April 24, 2013, 6:53 p.m. EDT
Best financial decision? Paying off mortgage
People also valued starting to save early
By Andrea Coombes
Quick, what’s the best money move you ever made?
For 40% of people aged 55 and older, it was paying off their mortgage, according to a Harris Interactive survey of about 1,540 people for Northwestern Mutual, an insurance and financial-services firm.
And 40% of the over-55 group also said starting to save early was one of their top decisions. (Survey respondents were asked “What are the best financial decisions you ever made?” and could offer more than one option.)
The survey also asked younger people—ages 25 to 54—what are the most important financial decisions they’ll ever need to make: 53% of that group said starting to save early is one of their top goals, while 52% said “making sure that my family is protected” is key.
Paying off the mortgage didn’t even make the cut for the under-55 age group. But that makes perfect sense, said Greg McBride, a senior financial analyst with Bankrate.com.
“Paying off the mortgage becomes a higher priority later in your career, after you’ve amassed sufficient savings for emergencies, after you’ve paid off other debt, after you’ve put the kids through college, and after you’ve spent years accumulating your retirement nest egg on a tax-advantaged basis,” said McBride, who wasn’t involved with the Northwestern Mutual survey.
“All are higher priorities than pouring more money into a low-cost, tax-deductible debt like a mortgage, particularly when rates are as low as they are today,” he said.
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Quick, what’s the best money move you ever made?
Paying off my 1980 11.5% VA home loan early, in 1991. I was astounding at how fast my savings piled up after that point.
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