A Sign Of Desperation
It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Some 1.7 million borrowers have missed several payments on mortgages backed by the U.S. government, the inspectors general of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and Department of Housing and Urban Development said in a joint report. ‘Not only are current REO inventory levels elevated … they may rise over the next several years depending on the number of shadow inventory properties that are ultimately foreclosed on,’ the report stated.”
“Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration are backing about nine out of every ten new home loans. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac owned about 158,000 REO properties at the end of September 2012, while HUD had about 37,000. The report said the shadow inventory, which is made up of loans that have been delinquent for at least 90 days, is more than seven times the inventory of REOs that Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and HUD currently own. ‘Even a fraction of the shadow inventory falling into foreclosure could considerably swell … inventories of REO properties,’ the report warned.”
“Half a decade since the housing bust, many foreclosures are showing their age. A quarter of cases now in Hillsborough court are at least 3 years old. Pinellas and Pasco courts had nearly 29,000 pending foreclosures by April, more even than a year ago, showing judges were unable to clear old cases quicker than new ones piled on, state court data show. And half of Hillsborough courts’ 24,000 pending foreclosures are more than 2 years old. Florida courts expect another 680,000 foreclosures within a few years.”
“So who’s keeping Florida’s more than 350,000 pending foreclosures in court? Judges largely blame the banks. Slowed foreclosures benefit the banks, lawyers add, because they appear more solvent than if all bad loans were foreclosed at once. As Georgetown law professor Adam Levitin wrote in November, ‘The game plan has always been to run the clock.’”
“Chuck Munson, assistant attorney general in the Office of Consumer Protection, said calls to the Montana Attorney General’s Office for help fighting foreclosure haven’t slowed. ‘After the investigation in the fall of 2010 that led to the settlement, our complaints went from almost nothing to a spike, and our spike has been consistent ever since,’ Munson said.”
“Munson said the office receives several calls a week from homeowners looking for help. On one particular day, he said, the office was swamped with 39 calls. In one case, a family faced foreclosure after missing just three payments. In another case, a Flathead Valley homeowner hadn’t received any foreclosure notice, even after missing 49 monthly payments. ‘It’s hard to predict when an entity is going to file a notice required to move forward with a foreclosure,’ Munson said.”
“The median price in King County has increased by double digits over a year ago every month since October and has returned to August 2008 levels. Glenn Crellin, of the Runstad Center for Real Estate Studies at the University of Washington, said banks are holding onto foreclosed homes. ‘There seems to be a big number of properties in the hands of lending institutions that haven’t been put on the market with the shadow inventory,’ Crellin said.”
“Meaghan Frisbee and her husband are trying to decide between adding a second floor to their house in Phinney Ridge or moving. They’ve seen 20 homes in the last month. ‘All the houses are getting snapped up,’ said Frisbee, cradling her 3-month-old daughter in her arms. ‘It’s hard to find a house.’”
“Arizona and Nevada are the two states that saw the biggest housing boom, bust and apparent rebound. Housing sales are going up, but home ownership is plummeting. This is the natural fallout of the trend of investors — not first-time homeowners — buying up all the houses. According to a recent Sonoran Institute report, some 16 million homes were built in the U.S. between 2000 and 2010, but the nation only added 11 million households. Meaning there’s at least five million empty homes sitting around out there. Meanwhile, many of the West’s towns are plagued by a chronic affordable housing crisis.”
“And yet, despite all those empty homes, we’ve started building new ones again. Is this really a good idea? In any case, there’s little reason to expect the current upswing to continue for long. Hope for a real housing recovery is about as empty as all those houses sitting vacant out there.”
“Ever talked to an average Chinese citizen about living in China? If you haven’t, here is a spoiler: one of the most common complaints will likely be the ever-growing price of apartments. According to a story reported by Chinese magazine Caixin, 64.5 million urban electricity meters registered zero consumption over a recent six-month period, which ‘led to a theory that China has enough empty apartments to house 200 million people,’ basically the population of the three largest countries in Europe. The author suggested that, ‘even if China’s stock of empty flats is only half that recent estimate of 64.5 million, it would still be equivalent to 20 percent of all urban households. That’s higher than Taiwan’s vacancy rate at the peak of its bubble [in 1980s].’”
“According to a 2012 study by the IMF, ‘the real-estate-dependent construction industry, which accounts for 7 per cent of GDP, creates significant final demand in other domestic sectors [..] As a result, a decline in real estate investment has the potential to disrupt the production chain throughout China’s economy, and with that a potential for external spillover to G20 trading partners.’ So, if the next time you speak with Chinese acquaintances they do not mention rising property prices, it may not be all good news: they may have shifted attention to a deteriorating jobs market.”
“By the end of March, the total number of unsold housing units in Vietnam was 20 percent higher that than the ministry recorded at the end of last year. That is a total of 33,850 available units. The increase has confused analysts as very few new property projects were completed during the time period. In March, Hanoi city authorities even placed a yearlong moratorium on new housing projects. Vu Xuan Thien, deputy head of the ministry’s housing and property market management unit, said last year’s statistics did not reflect the true depth of the despair the beleaguered market finds itself in.”
“The end-2012 statistics did not include a number of property projects that are under development but not yet completed, he said, stopping short of confirming that this year’s statistics were measured differently. The empty units figures could have been ‘much higher,’ he said.”
“The latest abundance of condo incentives in Metro Vancouver might be good for purchasers, but experts say it will only hurt the industry in the long term. Andrey Pavlov, a finance and real estate professor at SFU, says consumers get used to things like one-day blow out sales which will only make it harder for developers to sell inventory. ‘Incentives and sales work to a very limited extent because people expect them all the time and more and more.’”
“Pavlov explains it will likely chill an already cooling industry and the overwhelming number of sales popping up is a sign of desperation. ‘Developers are reluctant to reduce regular prices because it puts their financing in jeopardy so they do sales instead.’”
“With reference to the abandoned building projects in Dubai, I’d like to warn people that if you have a mortgage and the bank has already paid some of the money upfront to the property dealer, it doesn’t matter whether the property exists or not. You still have to repay the money to the bank, but don’t expect any money back from the property company. In other words, like me, you could find yourself having to pay for a property that doesn’t exist before you leave.”
“The property company (probably worth billions of dollars!) is not obliged to pay money back to the investor, but the investor has to pay the bank for some Dubai air. - A very angry and disillusioned investor, Dubai.”
“Last September, one of the original institutional investors in the housing-to-rent strategy, multi-billion hedge fund Och-Ziff called it quits on the landlord business. Today, another one of the original ‘big boys’ has called it curtains: CEO Bruce Rose of Carrington’s assessment of the market? ‘There’s a lot of — bluntly — stupid money that jumped into the trade without any infrastructure, without any real capabilities and a kind of build-it-as-you-go mentality that we think is somewhat irresponsible.’”
“As a reminder, the REO-to-Rental subsidized investment program, which led to an epic surge in demand for multi-family housing, i.e., rental, units was, together with offshore investors parking their cash in the US for safekeeping (taking advantage of the NAR’s anti-money laundering check exemptions) and the big banks Foreclosure Stuffing, the key reason for the recent, stimulus-fuelled and quite transitory bounce in house prices in assorted markets.”
“Everyone now knows where the incremental ‘bubble’ demand for housing has come from: not from the distressed end user of thes properties, for whom the disconnect between real income and new home sales has never been wider: it was all large institutions who invested OPM, and chased any upward moving price with the fervor of a rabid dog.”
“But all things come to an end: Carrington may start buying rental homes again when other large investors decide to sell after learning they can’t make returns that justify the prices they paid, Rose said: ‘We’ll sit back in the weeds for a while and wait for a couple of blowups’. If the Chairman is serious about tapering, or even hinting of tightening at some point in the future, those blowups won’t take too long. And so will the blowup in the illusion that the housing market is ‘recovering’ on anything more than yet another cheap-money fuelled bubble afforded to a select few who now have no choice but to ‘hot potato’ properties amongst each other first on the way up, and soon, going down.”
…“And yet, despite all those empty homes, we’ve started building new ones again. Is this really a good idea? In any case, there’s little reason to expect the current upswing to continue for long. Hope for a real housing recovery is about as empty as all those houses sitting vacant out there.”
And here is still more acknowledgement of the open secret that Bubble 2.0 is just a con-game. A scam, a honey-trap designed to snare the gullible and desperate, along with all players who are too encumbered or too slow to grab a chair when the music stops. This just reinforces my view that this thing is going to roll over and auger-into the ground much sooner and much faster than any of the future FBs can comprehend. In Bubble 1.0 prices dropped about 50% and that was when everyone believed that;
1. It couldn’t possibly happen and
2. Even if it did, that they were ‘rich’ enough to weather it out.
How will it progress THIS time, when everyone knows and acknowledges what is coming and most people who participated in the last one have already lost their collective asses?
A scam, a honey-trap designed to snare the gullible and desperate, along with all players who are too encumbered or too slow to grab a chair when the music stops.
As one of the more prolific and keen observers recently stated;
“You’d have to have rocks in your head to have bought a house in the past 13 years.”
How will it progress this time when everyone knows that the government will do all in its power to keep it propped up and bail out losers.
The government couldn’t stop it the first time and they can’t stop it this time. The government never saved any real losers. Individual citizens still went bankrupt. Individual citizens still lost their homes and jobs. Individual citizens did not get and will not get a real bailout. That was only for the banking cartels so that our mad-cow-infected monetary system wouldn’t become apparent. Sure the government is providing incentives to keep the ponzi going, but do you understand who the real footsoldiers are? The opportunists who take the incentives and run with it, making the dream of Bubble 2.0 into a reality. The flippers, the investors, the NAR and everyone else in the RE industry who want to wheedle or frighten everyone into buying a house so that they can get their cut. Without these footsoldiers, this whole thing would just be one huge, pathetically bad idea that everyone knows will end in tears. Thanks to them, its now a reality that everyone knows will end in tears
I don’t think the various private investment groups and hedge funds will get a bailout. I doubt they are even coordinated enough to collectively pay all the right bribes. They are certainly not as well-positioned as the Too-Big-to-Fail banking industry. Then again, I didn’t think the banks would get bailed out either, so I could be wrong.
‘the inspectors general of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and Department of Housing and Urban Development said in a joint report… ‘Not only are current REO inventory levels elevated … they may rise over the next several years depending on the number of shadow inventory properties that are ultimately foreclosed on’
”The report said the shadow inventory, which is made up of loans that have been delinquent for at least 90 days, is more than seven times the inventory of REOs that Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and HUD currently own. ‘Even a fraction of the shadow inventory falling into foreclosure could considerably swell … inventories of REO properties,’ the report warned.’
When I came across this report, I wondered why it wasn’t a headline on every business web page and newspaper? They even call it shadow inventory straight out! Yet we’re given time and again the line that shadow inventory is a conspiracy theory. I even saw one guy say, “the same people who think it’s a housing bubble also believed in the shadow inventory.”
Well you got that right mister! The lies and BS are everywhere, and it looks like it will be a daily fight to wade through it.
Well you got that right mister! The lies and BS are everywhere
Yes sir indeed. And piles of $$$ are spent to keep the lies flowing in the media and on the net.
“When I came across this report, I wondered why it wasn’t a headline on every business web page and newspaper? They even call it shadow inventory straight out!”
Funny detail: I believe the shadow inventory meme originated right here on the HBB.
Back when shadow inventory initially became a frequently-discussed HBB topic, an army of trolls came out of the woodwork to ridicule us and dismiss the idea.
Now its existence is generally accepted, openly discussed, and impossible to deny.
Progress!
It’s like the Open Market Committee, or the warrantless wiretapping and warehousing of all electronic communiation against every US citizen. It is a publicly documented fact that is not hidden or secret, but everyone thinks it’s a conspiracy.
The MSM bears a certain amount of responsibility for that.
The same people who ridiculed the shadow inventory fact are the same ones who now are starting to talk about it, and will no doubt take credit for telling people about it. Just the same as those who denied there was a bubble, then turned around and told people they called it after the meltdown.
“Slowed foreclosures benefit the banks, lawyers add, because they appear more solvent than if all bad loans were foreclosed at once. As Georgetown law professor Adam Levitin wrote in November, ‘The game plan has always been to run the clock.”
This is the game plan written by the Fed, and it is out in the open. Suspension of accounting rules, Federal fraud, right out in plain sight. Yet years into this we ask how this could happen. We know how it has to end.
Isn’t it quite convenient how banks can just change the accounting rules to remain solvent? Why are these “tools” not available to all small businesses? How about a discount window for the local furniture seller who is going out of business? We will never be a strong country without an end to this ROT.
Isn’t it quite convenient how banks can just change the accounting rules to remain solvent?
Worse than that, didn’t our representatives do it for them?
Banks holding onto REO is more of a conspiracy theory than shadow inventory. If banks were holding REO, we would see levels of REO as reported to the FDIC continue to grow…they are not, they are shrinking.
However, the existence of “shadow inventory” is NOT a conspiracy theory.
It IS however, much more pronounced in judicial states than in non-judicial states.
And because politicians know the link between a) faster foreclosures, b) falling home prices, and c) NOT getting re-elected, I fear that we will not have the wholesale changes in these laws necessary to clear the judicial markets of distress anytime soon.
LPS releases the non-current loan rate data every month.
As of April, 3.17% of all loans were in the foreclosure process.
However, this is made up of a blend of judicial and non-judicial states. 5.31% of all loans in judicial states were in the foreclosure process (approximately 10x normal), and 1.63% of all loans in non-judicial states were in the foreclosure process (approximately 3-4x normal).
FL’s non-current rate? 17.3%.
NJ is at 15.3%.
NY is at 12.7%.
That said, FL has reduced their non-current loan rate by nearly 20% over the past year…NY and NJ have only reduced their non-current loan rate by 1.1% and 1.3%, respectively.
At the recent rate of reduction, before the end of 2013, FL will lose its crown as the state with the highest non-current loan rate to NJ.
In the meantime chase is opening up a new branch on every street corner to fleece us for every last dime.
Chase: the new Starbucks
Starbucks provides something useful.
But neither are particularly full of taste.
Starbucks should offer a credit card. “Coffe Credit”.
I mean COFFEE!
Who uses these behemoths? I surely don’t. I bank with the tiny local credit union. If you can open your wallet, and see B of A, Chase, Wells Fargo, Citibank, etc., YOU are the problem.
“Some 1.7 million borrowers have missed several payments on mortgages backed by the U.S. government, the inspectors general of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and Department of Housing and Urban Development said in a joint report.”
Since these are federally guaranteed, lenders will not lose a dime of principle, as taxpayers stand ready to make up the losses.
So there really is no problem, right?
“Half a decade since the housing bust, many foreclosures are showing their age.”
Who owns these? Is the Fed the implicit owner, in the form of the collateral that backs up the MBS on its balance sheet?
There is a particular course I golf at once or twice a year. Several of the homes lining the fairway have been foreclosed upon, and vacant, for years. The birds have completely taken over the eves. The stucco has been replaced by bird shit. I will take pics next time I go.
Okay the song remains the same here on the bubble blog, but I’m not convinced. I was a regular at this site during 1.0 but pulled the trigger in 2011 and picked up an auction property at it’s 1998 price.
Now those auctions are shut down. Cash buyers and investment groups are buying strait from the banks. Sure there’s a shadow inventory but also a shadow market and plenty of money changing hands. Being a first time home owner and small time investor I feel very lucky that I bought when I did.
However the view here on the BB seems as dark as ever.
What’s dark about trying to get at the truth?
I’m not really sure what ‘truth’ is in this context, but here at the BB we certainly had a pretty good grasp of reality during the first bubble. The strange thing at the time was how obvious it was to anyone who cared to look, and how many people didn’t want to see it.
Looking back I believe most of what happened was engineered by centers of wealth and influence who used the crises to their advantage. Now in the final stages they are just reaping their rewards. Most people will work their whole lives and die in debt… dept that is the basis of our economy and a modern form of slavery… it’s all so horrible and unfair and will probably never change.
What’s dark about trying to get to the truth of all this is that takes you away from doing other things. I’m trying these days to be a better gardener a better carpenter a better father. I think about rain barrels and compost and chickens and tractors. I have four brokerage accounts and two IRAs all with a zero balance and I have absolutely zero debt. Still every so often I like to check in the the BB and see how the search for truth is going
I think the truth is you got ripped in a very big way.
What are your losses so far?
I’m up $200k in 1.5 years. Yeah ouch!
Wait a second….. You paid 4x what it cost to build and you’re still holding onto that shack? Are you nuts?
There isn’t a buyer out there for a fraction of the price you’ve got in it.
Bennett,
You’re not “up” anything. You spent your money and now are conserving pennies. Nothing wrong with that, just don’t kid yourself.
The financial imbalances that you recognized years ago as unsustainable (and obvious) are still in place and we are still keeping an eye on them, because a correction is baked in that will affect us all, even you. Not so much you since you are out of debt and living more simply. Good for you. Still it will affect us all.
Good timing Bennett, or more likely you did your research and jumped in when you thought prudent to do so. There are more important things in life like pruning your garden, lubing the chain on your kids bike and setting the timing on your water sprinkler. Trying to stay debt free and keeping your expenses reasonable gives you peace of mind that’s priceless. Watching the market , housing or stock, is added entertainment when you pickup the clues of an impending train wreck.
Thanks guys
LOLZ
Yes….. your timing is impeccable……
Hello Bennett:
Many of us realized that the time was right to buy a house in certain places (mainly at auctions) at certain times. You may be aware that Ben Jones himself recruited a few investors, and they are now enjoying nice returns on their investment into his real-estate fund.
However, this blog still stands because a second bubble is forming. If you buy and sell at the right time, then you can make a lot of money off the bubble. If you do it at the wrong time, you will labor until you die and have nothing to show for it. I’m glad you got a good deal. However, we must now turn to the present and ask what we will plan for the future. The future of house prices probably will be lower later, when compared to this particular point in time.
Hee Haw~!
It’s great to be up hundreds of thousands of dollars in your primary residence. That, plus a dollar, will get you a cup of coffee.
Meaning, it’s difficult to monetize a profit on a primary residence. If you sell it, you’ll probably need to find another house which has likely had similar price appreciation.
You could of course put the house up as collateral for a loan (heloc), and use it to buy a boat. But you’re on the hook for paying it all back, plus interest.
Plus the crushing losses of maintenance.
Nobody cares about fantasy paper profits. It’s all in your head.
No I don’t plan on seeing any paper profits as I plan on never selling this land. I know all that Zillow stuff is make believe, I was just put on the spot by a troll and gave a number.
Wish I had more money to jump in with Ben and you guys. However, I have helped some family members buy rentals in the area and they pay me a little to mow the lawns and fix the faucets.
A big thank you to Ben and the other amazing posters on the BB who laid it all out here back in the day. This is where I gained the confidence I would need to jump when the time was right.
Back in 98′ I got all caught up in the internet stock bubble. Kept a ticker running on my screen and even got in on an IPO. Had days of 30% gains and losses and walked away almost even and completely shell shocked. I knew what was at stake with the housing bubble so I read everything I could find and kept up with the chat here on BB. It worked and for that I am very grateful to everyone who didn’t know I was listing.
After all this I’m exhausted. There may be another bubble forming but I can’t find it in me to gear up like I did for the last one. Just hope it goes away and doesn’t take me with it. Good luck to you all.
Dump it while you still might find a buyer. IF you can finder a buyer remotely close to what you’ve got in it.
And don’t be such a sucker.
Sure there’s a shadow inventory but also a shadow market and plenty of money changing hands
Just a couple days ago I suggested that foreclosure prices were not included in the Shiller index because those houses were not available to be sold to the public.
I was assured that all those houses were indeed available to the public.
Now you’re saying that first dibs on foreclosures go to investors for cash.
So which is it?
Oxy, distressed sales are not part of the CS index. Relax, you are locked in.
Oxide:
Are you saying that an investor with cash is not a member of the public? Just because you have cash and I don’t, doesn’t make you a member of the private or the netherworld or whatever. It just makes you a person who would probably win a bid against me if you wanted.
” picked up an auction property at it’s 1998 price.”
Spit it out. What was the price.
pwetewee!
LOLZ
You paid $275/ sq ft for a run down 80 year old shack. Good God you got suckered. You do know that you could have had a brand new place for 80% less than you paid right?
Thanks for prompt analysis. I certainly can’t argue with your logic.
Why did you pay $275/sq?
What are your losses so far Tard?
Okay I’m going to stop talking to you now.
Of course you are. You’re underwater. Tard.
Bennett - you are not using the IGNORE feature?
And neither are you my underwater donkey.
Its 1998 price was $330k. You bought it for $418k.
Your claim of buying at the 1998 price fails to fit the Transitive property.
The listing was removed at $129k yet sold at $418k. Something’s missing (and fishy) here.
There is a complex history to this property. It went up for auction several times and the sale fell through because a loan could not be secured due a red flag grading violation.
When the sale failed they recorded it as a transaction at the auction starting price. Very strange. Also when the bank acquired it due to foreclosure it seems that was recorded as a sale for the amount of the loan.
Yeah that 1998 estimate was a very rough estimate. I actually won with a $398k bid but there were $20k in fees to the auction house and title search company that for some reason were reported in the sales price.
Like I said this was my first home purchase so I’m not very informed as to how it’s suppose to work. Still I’m happy with the purchase.
“I’m not very informed as to how it’s suppose to work. Still I’m happy with the purchase.”
Nor are you informed about the value of a dollar.
I hope you’re happy because your losses are large and will grow the longer you hold onto it.
that for some reason were reported in the sales price
Probably because someone wanted to make sure they got paid a commission on the overall transaction = higher commission.
When I sold my house, instead of reducing price the realtors were all over themselves trying to find some other way, like a closing cost kickback or some such that didn’t affect the selling price. After all, 6% of a higher number is a higher number.
That’s still a crazy high price for that sort of house. San Jose has some serious stupid when it comes to house prices.
Don’t feel bad. That one guy posting thinks he can build for $5/sqft on beachfront property and all housing is a bad buy always.
From the original post: Hope for a real housing recovery is about as empty as all those houses sitting vacant out there.
To which I say: In the next block, there’s a house that’s been vacant for as long as I’ve lived here. It’s two doors away from another one that’s been empty since August 2011.
Ben’s Friday desk clearing post should be required reading for everybody in America. I can only continue to shake me head in disgust at what is going on. Every gov’t solution to “solve” the problem just makes it worse. More FB’s every day. It’s so easy to understand what is happening here. Can people really be this stupid?
shake me head in disgust
Aaarrgh, I agree matey!
Yes, they are.
“Get what you can get for your house today because it’s going to be far far less tomorrow for many years to come.”
“Housing sales are going up, but home ownership is plummeting. This is the natural fallout of the trend of investors — not first-time homeowners — buying up all the houses.”
I can’t overstate the glee I will experience when many of these new-age Gold Rush participants lose a fortune as a reward for their financial follies.
Got popcorn?
The US home ownership rate has fluctuated between 62 and 65 percent for many decades. The 69% figure of a few years ago was a housing bubble-driven outlier.
We’re back down to about 65%. But we still have millions of empty houses. Call ‘em shadow inventory, purple cows, or whatever. It doesn’t make ‘em go away.
It annoys me to know that I must overpay for rent, all because the billionaire bankers need to keep a shadow inventory.
Well….. it could be worse. You could pay double your rental rate and buy a house at a massively inflated price.
Another sign from Desperate Detroit:
Demolition is better than nothing, I suppose. Completely missing from the article is a grand total of ‘blighted homes’ that would be better off demolished and the cost of demolition per home. Since the demolitions are subsidized by the gov’t I suspect the cost is jacked up to benefit the demolition contractors.
Why don’t they use the money to fix the houses up? Tearing them down just makes housing more expensive, doesn’t it?
“So, if the next time you speak with Chinese acquaintances they do not mention rising property prices, it may not be all good news: they may have shifted attention to a deteriorating jobs market.”
Oh no, Uncle Bill! Please don’t let apartments become affordable to the average “buyer” in a country where people can’t own land. That would be bad news. The International Communitay needs to keep this tragedy from playing out at all costs, preferrably through a high-interest loan of some sort, with the collateral being along the lines of, like, everything that anyone owns in the entire country.
Why can’t people own land? Is every rural Chinese house a rental? Or do they own the house and have some arrangement to rent land from the government, like high property taxes?
[come to think of it, I've never really tried to imagine what an SFH in China might look like. All I can envision is pre-plumbing pagodas or high-rises in cities.]
The basis of communism is communal ownership. Hence, all land in China is owned by the government, as are all corporations. Property taxes would make no sense under communism, since property is not individually owned.
If you buy a house at current asking prices, you’re getting ripped off.
“it was all large investors using OPM” - - like Blackrock, etc I presume.
I always thought bond traders were good at bond trading. Where is their infrastructure for managing rental properties?
Rental profit margins are already thin and their type of investments are top end prices. There are only so many tenants. And generally you lose money for the first three years renting a property out.
One can hire a property manager, arm twist him down on his commission and expenses - but only on multi unit res. Single family tenancies spread out would be a nightmare to manage.
Obviously the traders are doing just that - hoping to trade.
While the Fed purchases Treasury prime paper at ridiculously low interest rates, consuming the majority of that issued - yes overall interest rates have to follow that low rate pattern (we think).
Gov have been using those funds to ladder it’s debt out as far as it can and has relieved cash demands dramatically because of it.
It has been able to cover F&F because of it. And they in turn are “paying a dividend” - (they should say “back”) - thus lowering the deficit for the year.
Now what about next year’s slight of hand (creative accounting) ?
How about reducing that lifeguard’s $100,000 a year pension -
Clearly no one is planning around rate hikes in a meaningful way.
I once saw a deer captured by the headlights of a car - such a capable animal incapable of thinking it’s way out of a problem.