June 20, 2013

Investors Are Waiting To Receive A Higher Price

KUSI News reports from California. “The median price of a home in San Diego County rose 23.6 percent in May, compared to the same month a year ago, reflecting a statewide jump that gave California the biggest year-over-year price increase in 33 years, according to figures released Monday by the California Association of Realtors. Statewide, the median price of a single-family home was $417,350 in May, up 31.9 percent from $316,460 in May 2012, according to CAR. It was the 15th consecutive month of year-over-year increases, and 11th straight month of double-digit jumps.”

“According to CAR, the 31.9 percent increase was the largest annual jump since at least 1980, when the association began tracking the statistic. ‘More home buyers are putting down larger down payments, and many of them are opting for more stable loan products,’ CAR Chief Economist Leslie Appleton-Young said. ‘Additionally, historically low mortgage rates have reduced monthly mortgage payments substantially, making owning a house more affordable, even with rising home prices.’”

The Sacramento Bee. “The May housing report from DataQuick said the median price of a resale house in Sacramento County rose a stunning 42 percent over the past year. A factor contributing to the rise in the median, said Andrew LePage, analyst for the service, was the number of houses being fixed up and resold by house flippers. The big gains in home values in the past year occurred because the market was ‘bouncing off bottom’ and are unlikely to continue for another year, LePage said. ‘This could be kind of a one-time wonder in terms of how fast and how far it went up,’ he said.”

The Daily Democrat. “In Yolo County, the media price paid for existing homes was $290,000, which was 32.4 percent higher than a year earlier. For newly built homes, the change was equally dramatic. In Yolo County, there were 29 new homes sold, a 107.1 percent increase over the previous year. The median price paid for those new homes was $380,000, which was 28.6 percent higher than a year earlier. Michael Lea, director of San Diego State University’s Corky McMillin Center for Real Estate, said prices will stabilize as fewer people owe more than their homes are worth, positioning them to put their homes up for sale.”

“‘I don’t think we’re in a bubble by any means because it’s mostly the lack of inventory,’ Lea said. At the end of March, 21.3 percent of California homes were in ‘negative equity’ down from 25.2 percent three months earlier, according to CoreLogic. ‘We do not have a healthy market, we have an unusual market,’ Lea said. ‘The high percentage of people with negative equity means people can’t sell.’”

From Around Dublin. “Just how hot is the real estate market in Dublin, CA? According to some prospective homebuyers at Fallon Ridge in Positano, KB Home had originally set the prices from the mid-$700,000s to the mid-$800,000. ‘This was communicated by KB home representative while people signed up for the interest list,’ said prospective homebuyer P. Shastri. ‘On May 27th I was provided with a price list over email where the smallest home was priced at $790,000 and the largest at $869,000.’”

“On June 8th, the day of the release, KB Home reportedly raised the prices on all the homes. ‘The released prices (rose to) now between $824,000 to $895,000,’ said Shastri. ‘It seems to me that KB is simply following the market forces that have spiked all home prices,’ said one prominent local Realtor. ‘Some buyers have not seen the multiple offers, well over asking price, and often all cash.’”

“Still, that explanation is cold comfort for homebuyers who are desperate to get into their first home or to upgrade to a better neighborhood in a scorching hot housing market. ‘To put KB Home’s price increases in perspective, the smallest home that they offer at $824,000 is very similar to a model sold by Braddock & Logan, which was the original builder from whom KB Home purchased the land,’ said Shastri. ‘That model sold by Braddock & Logan a year ago was priced at $620,000 to $640,000.’”

The Reporter. “Solano County continued to offer the most affordable median price in the Bay Area in May. The median for homes sold last month was $245,000, up 29.2 percent from May 2012, when the median was just $190,000. Sales dipped nonetheless in Solano in May, a decline of 11.8 percent from May 2012. The same scenario played out in much of the rest of the region.”

“‘The housing market here is very hot,’ said Remy Weinstein, a real estate agent with Highland Partners in Montclair. ‘I’m just constantly amazed with the amount of overbidding going on.’”

“Nick Bird, a 31-year-old catering company owner, is closing in on his first home, for $297,000 in West Oakland. ‘We got on it so quick we didn’t have to compete with any other offers,’ he said. ‘We just paid asking price. Everything’s going way over asking, and you’re not competing with the small guy, you’re competing with investment groups that can afford to pay a little more.’”

The Victorville Daily Press. “Home sales have risen 9.7 percent over the past 12 months, evidence that the housing market is improving. But the supply of available homes remains tight and many potential buyers are unable to get loans. Steve Kim, an agent for Newstar Realty in Victorville, said though more homes are being sold in the area, inventory is still below demand, making it a seller’s market.”

“‘Right now we have more buyers and less sellers,’ said Kim. ‘When you look at it, about 10 to 20 percent of homeowners up here live outside San Bernardino County — they have bought houses to rent out as an investment.’”

“Though Kim cites a 10-percent to 20-percent increase in the buying of houses in the High Desert from last year, he said most homeowners are holding out. ‘In this area a lot of investors come up here (from outside the High Desert) to buy houses,’ he said. ‘Most of these investors are waiting to receive a higher price for their homes, rather than sell now.’”

The Desert Sun. “Foreclosure activity fell 63.2 percent year-over-year in May across the Coachella Valley, but several dozen home auctions created an unexpected increase compared to April, a new report shows. The 284 foreclosure filings were up 16 percent from 237 in April —largely due to 36 more scheduled home auctions, RealtyTrac reported. There were 112 scheduled auctions in May compared to 74 in April, and there were seven more bank repossessions compared to the previous month. Bret A. Cohn, senior loan officer with Stearns Lending Inc. in Palm Desert believes the increase in foreclosure activity may correlate with the recent increase in home values.”

“‘Banks realize that values are appreciating and are taking action to move these homeowners who are not taking advantage of short sales towards a final resolution — foreclosure,’ Cohn said.”

McClatchy News Service. “Credit bureaus that provide consumers’ data to prospective lenders have no specific code for short sales. Instead, they tend to be flagged as pre-foreclosures, charge-offs or ’settled for less than full amount’ – designations that are just as devastating to credit as the stigma of foreclosure. As a result, underwater borrowers who managed to get bank approval for short sales suffer the same long-term consequences as those who simply walked away from their homes after defaulting for years.”

“The coding error ‘hangs over me all the time,’ said Wendy Bana, a private school principal in Orange County, Calif. Bana short-sold her underwater home three years ago because she had to relocate from Oregon for a job. Last year, she discovered that her short sale had been miscoded as a foreclosure, dashing her dream of buying a cabin at Lake Arrowhead, Calif. Months of calls and letters to her bank and the credit bureaus failed to set the record straight, even though Bana had paperwork proving the short sale.”

“‘It’s not at all logical,’ she said. ‘The bank’s still making fair money and it’s better for the economy, And I don’t not pay my bills. I had always had perfect credit. To me that was a far lesser evil than just walking away.’”

“Now, short sellers who waited the requisite two years are starting to re-enter the housing market only to find that the coding error means they’ll have to wait five more years to secure another loan. ‘It’s extremely stressful,” said former short seller Lisa Chambers of Chico, Calif., who has been unable refinance her mortgage. ‘It’s hard on our whole family. We feel like we’re stuck in this holding pattern and we can’t get ahead.’”

From Pasadena Weekly. “In spring 2003, Harolyn Rhue was ready to sell her condo in Altadena. A rambling three-bedroom ranch-style home near the foothills was offered in a probate sale so Rhue made a $100,000 down payment and, though troubled by its terms, took a World Savings mortgage arranged by her broker for the balance. But last week, around her tenth anniversary there and after several years of seeking loan modifications from Wells Fargo Home Mortgage — which absorbed World Savings’ assets when it acquired Wachovia Bank in 2008 — Rhue was kicked out of her home.”

“Wells Fargo spokesman Gary Kishner said by email that Rhue’s property is no longer of any concern to the bank. ‘We worked with Ms. Rhue for nearly three years in an effort to find an option that would allow her to remain in the home, but we were unable to find any way to keep her in her home,’ Kishner said. He pointed out that it is not the bank throwing her out. ‘Title was transferred to a third-party purchaser in September. The buyer, not Wells Fargo, is responsible for any activity related to the property.’”

“Wachovia agreed to establish a $50 million settlement fund to resolve the case affecting pick-a-payment loans from World Savings Bank or Wachovia Mortgage, between August 2003 and December 2008. However, Rhue, though caught in the downward spiral of negative amortization, was not helped with any settlement money. In Rhue’s case, the loan was more than inappropriate. It was never manageable, based on income figures twice her actual earnings. Rhue says she neither claimed the numbers listed nor did she actually sign the document, alleging her signature was forged. To make the payments she took a second job, but soon found the extra shift too exhausting.”

“Shortly after 7 a.m. last Thursday, Rhue, who still suffers the effects of a brain injury incurred in a car accident in 1983, was awakened by loud knocking. Steadying herself on her cane, she was confronted at the front door by as many as six Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies, who were there to effect an eviction ordered by the Orange County investors to whom Wells Fargo had sold the property last August. ‘I never thought this could happen,’ Rhue told the Pasadena Weekly later that day.”




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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 05:57:08

The Day of Reckoning is at hand.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 06:04:28

Time to sober up as America and China remove punch bowl
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Economics Last updated: June 20th, 2013

The US Federal Reserve has refused to blink. The Chinese central bank has refused to blink.

The authorities in the world’s two biggest economies appear determined to strike a blow against moral hazard and clear the froth in asset markets, at least until this exhibition of virtue blows up in their faces.

The term “Perfect Storm” is banned by the Telegraph as a lamentable cliché, so let us just say that this is the moment we long been fearing or waiting for – depending on taste – when markets are no longer given what they want.

The Bernanke Put has become the Bernanke Call. The Politburo Put has become the Politburo Call. Rather than putting a floor under asset markets whenever there is trouble, they are instead putting a roof on asset price rises.

Opinions vary widely on what happened in Washington last night. My take is that Fed has just tightened monetary policy. Bernanke shifted the unemployment target from 6.5pc to 7pc, bringing the end of stimulus much closer.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-06-20 06:18:18

Think election cycle.

If it’s not done now then when will it be done?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 07:51:21

Totally agreed.

Plus don’t forget about the dire predicted economic fallout from sequestration. It’s here, now.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-06-20 08:45:20

Crashing asset prices help your chances of re-election?

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 14:11:03

No. Crashing asset prices at midterm set the stage for price improvements around campaign season.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-06-20 19:21:59

Crashing asset prices at midterm set the stage for price improvements around campaign season.

Not sure I get it. The midterm elections are 16 months away, and that’s all Obama cares about. That’s a pretty short time period to crash them and turn them around. Seems like a very risky strategy, unless you think the Fed is all-powerful (and beholden to Obama).

I doubt he’s going to crash asset prices so Hillary can get elected.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-06-20 19:24:11

‘that’s all Obama cares about’

Obama is ultimately a figure head for the powers that be.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 11:01:02

Like Bernanke really cares about the election. He is going to quit soon.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 22:50:32

It could well be that Bernanke did not realize that his innocuous-seeming statement would have such a seemingly-devastating effect.

 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-06-20 07:21:17

I have not read more than a few paragraphs of the Fed’s statement. But my take on it is more of the same; kind of a spoken version of a Rorschach inkblot.

I’ve noticed that the mainstream media is using the term “housing bubble” much less frequently. Now in vogue? The phrase “housing recovery.”

And not to hijack this thread with more Florida anecdotes, but I’m starting to see handmade snipe signs at road intersections again. One place yesterday had three of them.

Comment by oxide
2013-06-20 08:57:21

What is a snipe sign? “we buy houses cash?”

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Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 11:02:37

A Palinesque political statement?

 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-06-20 13:04:31

Yup. “4/3 $200,000 south Tampa great deal!!!” and “I will buy your mortgage for $10,000 555-3847.”

An old standby from 2007, the reappearance of which I am awaiting, was “Real estate invester seeks apprentice.”

 
 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 10:50:47

I finally got my wish. Bernanke left a rotten turd in the punch bowl, and then announced it on national TV. Ahhhh, I love life :!:

Comment by United States of Moral Hazard
2013-06-20 11:56:28

I love this, too. People like John Paulson are getting absolutely HAMMERED as gold drops like a rock. His fund was down like $150 million this morning. We may see $1000 gold very soon. Is he going to cut his losses and admit failure while taking an amputation, or go the narcissistic foolish pride route and proceed to get beheaded?

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Comment by Robin
2013-06-20 21:15:51

So how is Bill in L.A.?

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2013-06-21 00:23:59

“The Bernanke Put has become the Bernanke Call.”

+1 Gimme back that umbrella.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 06:14:07

This magnitude 8.0+ financial market earthquake we are currently experiencing will show up in the housing data with a lag of several months. You can bet your bottom dollar on it!

Comment by michael
2013-06-20 06:24:30

yes…yes it will.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 07:33:12

Indeed. Then it will be seen by the public as a pump-and-dump scheme.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 07:53:22

And an admirably successful one, at that…got bagholders?

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-06-20 11:57:11

All those young folks that crammed a mortgage on top of their student loan debt are permascrewed.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 14:12:58

“All those young folks that crammed a mortgage on top of their student loan debt are permascrewed.”

What makes you think they won’t get some kind of debt jubilee bailout that will enable them to continue spending themselves into long-term indentured debt servitude?

 
 
 
Comment by Al
2013-06-20 11:03:58

“This magnitude 8.0+ financial market earthquake we are currently experiencing….”

So far it’s but a mild tremor. It’ll be interesting to see what the PTB will do to keep the plebes from panicing and fleeing the ‘fill in the blank’ market while the elite make their exit.

Comment by oxide
2013-06-20 13:34:45

Down 348 for the day. Mild tremor.

After all, Teh Bernank hasn’t shut off the spigot yet, he just said he might. Next week they’ll be back to their old ways, profiting off the churn. The next trend will be trying to pinpoint the exact moment that someone’s hand turns the actual valve, so they can sell 14 nanoseconds before.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 14:13:58

‘Tis a mere flesh wound.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-06-20 06:33:58

I was wondering about this:

‘KB Home had originally set the prices from the mid-$700,000s to the mid-$800,000. ‘On May 27th I was provided with a price list over email where the smallest home was priced at $790,000 and the largest at $869,000. On June 8th, the day of the release, KB Home reportedly raised the prices on all the homes. ‘The released prices (rose to) now between $824,000 to $895,000′

‘To put KB Home’s price increases in perspective, the smallest home that they offer at $824,000 is very similar to a model sold by Braddock & Logan, which was the original builder from whom KB Home purchased the land,’ said Shastri. ‘That model sold by Braddock & Logan a year ago was priced at $620,000 to $640,000.’

So who would finance such expensive houses with price increases like this in such a short time. I looked around:

‘Nationstar offers both Fixed and Adjustable Rate mortgages, competitive rates, and easy application process and exceptional service. Please visit any KB Home Community and speak with a Mortgage Consultant about the variety of financing options for your new home.’

http://www.kbhome.com/financing

‘KB Home and Nationstar Mortgage Holdings Inc. are forming a joint venture that will offer home loans to KB customers across the country, so they can shop for a house and a mortgage at the same time. Nationstar, of Lewisville, Texas, agreed last year to be KB’s preferred lender, providing representatives to pitch mortgages to potential buyers at KB’s tracts of new homes. Those employees will now work for Home Community Mortgage, the new company jointly owned by KB and Nationstar.’

‘One critic said such alliances can result in homes being overpriced, as lenders, enticed by the prospects for a huge amount of business, obtain high appraisals for new homes on which comparable sales are hard to find. “It’s one of the things that contributed to the housing crisis,” said Bruce Marks, chief executive of the Neighborhood Assistance Corp. of America.’

‘In a housing version of one-stop shopping, KB began helping home buyers obtain financing decades ago, a practice now standard throughout the industry. It’s especially important for KB, which makes more than 60% of its sales to buyers taking on mortgages for the first time. The venture will provide KB with what Barclays research analysts called an “incremental upside to earnings in future years.”

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/22/business/la-fi-mo-kb-home-mortgage-20130122

Comment by scdave
2013-06-20 07:29:54

‘One critic said such alliances can result in homes being overpriced, as lenders, enticed by the prospects for a huge amount of business, obtain high appraisals for new homes on which comparable sales are hard to find. “It’s one of the things that contributed to the housing crisis,” said Bruce Marks, chief executive of the Neighborhood Assistance Corp. of America.’ ??

That is so spot on….These big builders never have appraisal problems…They close their first deal and thats the comparable for the next one…Then they slowly rachet up the price on the next release…Bandits are what they are…

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-06-20 07:41:53

Isn’t the vendor/lender combo symptomatic of end of business life cycle?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 07:46:40

Exactly. Synonymous with public/private partnerships.

Comment by snake charmer
2013-06-20 08:52:05

LOL. I never thought of it that way.

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Comment by zee_in_phx
2013-06-20 09:05:06

ahh memories, way back in 1998 - 2000 time frame before the telco bubble went bust, all the big name tier one suppliers/manufacturers were financing their products to fly by night upstart service providers on the dream of gaining market share - you can gain a lot of market share by giving things away for free or attaching dollar bills to you products. Well, when the upstarts went belly up the suppliers never recovered from the loans they had extended to these operators. Too bad they hadn’t thought of selling off these loans on Wall Street and making it somebody else’s problem.

Comment by In Colorado
2013-06-20 09:30:06

Well, when the upstarts went belly up the suppliers never recovered from the loans they had extended to these operators.

It was worse, as the almost new gear was sold for pennies on the dollar, cutting into sales of new equipment.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-06-20 10:17:55

I remember that. A lot of smoking deals on near-new gear.

 
 
Comment by michael
2013-06-20 10:49:04

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html

“When the abundance/prosperity ends, as it always does, the populace has lost the ability to make difficult choices and realistically assess cost-benefit. Magical thinking and nostalgic references to past glories dominate the conventional mindset.”

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 11:19:03

Poetic truth right there.

The Ben Jones version?

“People have no nose for bull$hit anymore.”

 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-06-20 19:58:22

I read Charles Hugh Smith every day.

 
 
 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 11:06:50

EVERYONE BUY A KB HOUSE, QUICK!

Just joshing.

 
Comment by rms
2013-06-21 00:40:57

“KB Home and Nationstar Mortgage Holdings Inc. are forming a joint venture that will offer home loans to KB customers across the country, so they can shop for a house and a mortgage at the same time. Nationstar, of Lewisville, Texas, agreed last year to be KB’s preferred lender, providing representatives to pitch mortgages to potential buyers at KB’s tracts of new homes. Those employees will now work for Home Community Mortgage, the new company jointly owned by KB and Nationstar.”

How many guys find themselves trapped when their high-school/college sweetheart explains that this is where the rubber hits the asphalt? No new tract home, and we [you] are done. Finished.

 
 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-06-20 06:42:29

If you make a sale today then you get to book it today. If you loan the money today that is needed to make the sale you also get to book the loan today.

Collecting comes later. If you cannot collect then that is a problem that will need to be dealt with at another time.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-06-20 06:56:26

KB’s financing partner offers all the government backed loans, including HARP, etc. Is this how they deal with the ones they can’t collect on?

‘Real estate auctions for homebuyers and investors’

https://www.nationstarmtg.com/

Comment by Bad Andy
2013-06-20 07:25:14

Funny that these listings include properties that are sold and under contract.

 
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Comment by rms
2013-06-21 00:56:30

“It’s extremely ugly.”

+1 Agreed. It is fugly, but I’ll give ‘em $100k for it.

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Comment by walt
2013-06-20 06:49:17

Two articles in Sarasota paper today

Florida tops for foreclosures; region ranked 16th:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130620/ARTICLE/306209994?p=1&tc=pg

Slim inventory of Southwest Florida homes exacting a toll:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130620/ARTICLE/130629998/2416/NEWS?Title=Slim-inventory-of-Southwest-Florida-homes-exacting-a-toll-

Comment by Bad Andy
2013-06-20 07:13:11

We get the same conflicting stories here in Southeast Florida too. To someone with common sense the two can’t possibly coexist. I think people think they’ve outsmarted this thing this time. The investors all think they will be able to dump before the market tanks again. The first time home buyers are the only ones being duped. This should get interesting.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-06-20 11:59:35

Once again, we sell the future out from under our descendants for a quick buck now.

Comment by rms
2013-06-21 01:29:25

One of my friends in Shingle Springs, CA went to a buddy’s divorce party where the backyard brick fire-pit was being stoked with furniture that hadn’t been paid for yet, and the dog was running around wearing the former wife’s wedding dress. A couple of attractive teenaged daughters were remnants of the family wreckage; they’ll bring their experiences to the next generation.

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Comment by oxide
2013-06-20 08:10:50

Even funnier, the two conflicting articles were written by the same reporter.

There are three reasons the two articles could co-exist logically:

1. Foreclosures in Florida can take 450 days. So during that process, they aren’t available for sale to anyone, leading to slim available inventory now. Check back in a year.

2. The article on slim inventory focuses on houses priced at $150K - $300K. That’s where the competition is hottest between cash buyers and end-consumers. I guess a lot of foreclosures are priced in the $300-$400K range.

3. The slim inventory might refer to inventory in good condition. Many foreclosures need a good $35-$40 K and 2-3 months just to make the house livable before move-in. End-consumers don’t have the time, energy, or money for that.

Actual data point from the article:

There are now 2,142 empty foreclosures between Sarasota and Manatee counties. Statewide, that tally swells to 55,503, according to RealtyTrac.

55,503 empty houses in Florida, which is heavy in foreclosures. So tell me, RAL/PIMP/HA, how do you figure 25 million empty homes nationwide?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 08:15:54

Donkey,

Your issue is with Mark Hanson, Mike Whitney and the banks.

Now get to it.

 
 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-06-20 07:46:10

“And I don’t not pay my bills…”

Except that you did not pay off your mortgage.

Comment by travanx
2013-06-20 21:26:27

It would seem like paying a mortgage would count as a bill.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2013-06-20 08:20:02

But last week, around her tenth anniversary there and after several years of seeking loan modifications from Wells Fargo Home Mortgage

Harolyn Rhue, what did you do with the money?

Comment by oxide
2013-06-20 08:22:18

OK check that, looks like Rhue really may have been targeted. Will be interesting to follow the case.

 
 
Comment by Puggs
2013-06-20 08:56:17

“Now, short sellers who waited the requisite two years are starting to re-enter the housing market only to find that the coding error means they’ll have to wait five more years to secure another loan. ‘It’s extremely stressful,”

Aaaawwwww{sarcasm} ~ Cry me a river. No sympathy here! What goes around comes around. Sure it was in the contract you could walk away - but the american public didn’t sign a contract to bail your butt out by covering your tax on loan forgiveness!

Comment by In Colorado
2013-06-20 09:31:41

Those people who can’t get a loan don’t know how lucky they are.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-06-20 12:00:40

The luck of the stupid.

 
 
 
Comment by DennisN
2013-06-20 09:18:36

Here’s an interesting case history near where I live. The house was a problem for the HOA: weeds in the lawn, generally unkept. Then last spring the occupants moved out. But there was no sale at the time, so I’m thinking it was a rental (last sale 2005 when it was new).

So the owner got a realtor and priced it at $175K. A month later the realtor was fired and it’s now FSBO at $190K. All this time contractor’s trucks are parked out front.

“Price Subject to Change as Improvements are Made. Call for our Cash, Quick Close, Discount Pricing!” LOL

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/12659-W-Murchison-St-Boise-ID-83709/79703150_zpid/

Around here Zestimates appear to be about $50K under what houses are actually selling for.

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 10:17:38

“‘I don’t think we’re in a bubble by any means because it’s mostly the lack of inventory,’ Lea said.”

Lea, Lea, Lea. How many times must I explain housing to realtoRs? All housing bubbles coincide with a lack of inventory. Obviously, it’s the nature of the beast. The buying frenzy leads to a lack of inventory.

I can’t tell if the realtoR is stupid, or if she just thinks I’m stupid.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-06-20 10:20:37

Here in Tucson, I’m noticing that the inventory is starting to creep back up again. A lot of what I’m seeing are houses that previously didn’t sell. So their owners are trying those wishing prices one mo’ time.

 
Comment by travanx
2013-06-20 21:32:37

We had an offer on our house for $450k through a pocket listing or whatever you want to call that. We closed in November 2012 for $352k on a short sale. Put about $30k into the house since we would be living here for a while. Inventory is low around parts of Los Angeles. In our city there are 6 houses for sale under $500k. Can’t find anywhere sort of decent for under $500k if we sold. I guess we are staying. Our mortgage, tax, and insurance is about $400 less than what we were paying when renting a tiny loft in Downtown LA. And about 400 sqft. larger inside.

Anyone who thinks this isn’t a bubble is crazy. Our Realtor said if we listed we could probably get above $475k within a week. We will be gone and travel the world if prices continue up though.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 10:21:00

“Everything’s going way over asking, and you’re not competing with the small guy, you’re competing with investment groups that can afford to pay a little more.’”

Why would an investment group want to pay a little more? If they continue paying a little more for very long, then they will be broke soon.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-06-20 12:23:10

It’s all good. They’re investing somebody else’s money.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 10:25:10

“‘It’s hard on our whole family. We feel like we’re stuck in this holding pattern and we can’t get ahead.’”

Are you surprised? You borrowed several hundred thousand dollars that you knew you could not repay, then you defaulted on the loan, and now you are a pariah to lenders. Not that hard to predict.

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-06-20 10:43:56

“‘Title was transferred to a third-party purchaser in September. The buyer, not Wells Fargo, is responsible for any activity related to the property.’”

Do you guys have any idea how risky it is to buy an occupied house, with the plan of kicking the person out? The resident could trash the place and reduce its value by 100k within weeks.

 
Comment by Beer and Cigar Guy
2013-06-20 11:36:53

Waiting for higher prices with higher mortgage rates? Analysis courtesy of ZeroHedge:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-20/what-recent-surge-rates-means-your-home-purchasing-power

…”So in one month, the average 30 year fixed rate mortgage has jumped by over 60 basis points. What does this mean for net purchasing power? Well, as the chart below shows, assuming a $2000/month budget to be spent on amortizing a mortgage (or otherwise spent for rent), it means that suddenly instead of being able to afford a $425K house, the average consumer can buy a $395K house.

This means that, all else equal, housing just sustained a 7% drop in the average equlibrium price based on what buyers can afford.

But assuming the current selloff in rates continues, things are going to get much worse: we may be seeing 5%, 5.5% even 6% and higher mortgages in the immediate future.

It also means that a buyer who could previously afford a $506K house with a $2,000 monthly budget at an interest rate of 2.5% will be able to afford only $316K if and when the average 30 Year fixed hits 6.5%: a 40% drop in affordability based on just a 4% increase in interest rates!”

Comment by Blue Skye
2013-06-20 11:57:57

“all else equal”

I applaud your clean simple math.

The knock on effects of the second leg down will shock people, though we all just lived through the first leg down. Will that be the third inning?

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-06-20 19:41:46

This all assumes that at the low rates, people were buying as much as they could.

Ivy Zelman (former housing bear) was on CNBC this morning. Her comment was that mortgage rates would need to rise to 6%, and home prices by another 20% just to get back to the long-term average affordability.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 19:59:13

Hey Liar…..

It’s good Zelman understand prices are still massively inflated.

Comment by travanx
2013-06-20 21:44:30

And yet people are still buying. What’s stopping how the last bubble happened to go for another round? Everyone learned that you can just walk away from the house with no repercussions if everything goes TU. As we hit 6% interest rates, ARM will be all the rage. People have no memories as far as I can see.

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-21 04:32:56

“people are still buying”

Housing demand has fallen to 1997 levels…… And sinking…..

You were saying?

 
Comment by travanx
2013-06-21 09:43:17

Because there is no inventory. This is not a healthy market. I am only following Los Angeles though. Most of the housing stock is terrible. Tear downs going for $300+/sqft.

 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-06-20 22:35:27

That is not what Zelman believes:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100832171

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-06-20 22:52:28

Sounds like Ivy’s stopped-clock bet on housing is headed for the crapper.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-06-20 11:41:31

Junk-Ease…

Junkies

Junk-eze

 
Comment by Nancy Hoffman
2013-06-20 17:57:08

Hot off the press:

Berkeley home prices soar… just don’t call it a bubble
June 20, 2013 9:00 am by Tracey Taylor

This week, a four-bedroom home in Berkeley’s Elmwood neighborhood sold after just three weeks on the market for a staggering $2.4 million, 42% over its asking price of $1.69m. There were multiple offers on the house. The sale has raised eyebrows both in the neighborhood and among real-estate professionals. However it is far from being the only example of escalating home prices in Berkeley and certain nearby areas, a development fueled by an influx of cash buyers falling over themselves to outbid competitors in their determination to snatch up property locally.

“I’ve never seen a market like this,” said Ira Serkes, a realtor at Pacific Union Real Estate who created the Berkeleyhomes.com website. “The market has changed dramatically.”

http://tinyurl.com/mv5tnf3

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-06-20 19:27:50

It’s go time:

‘Borrowing costs between Chinese banks soared Wednesday after a brief retreat from high levels, suggesting the market remains concerned of a liquidity shortage. Shanghai Interbank Offered Rate (SHIBOR) overnight rate surged 216.9 base points to 7.66 percent, reversing from downwards in the last two days. The SHIBOR overnight rate hit a record high at 9.58 percent last week before plunging to 4.81 percent on Monday.’

‘Fixing Repo 7-day, another gauge of interbank interest, gained 143 base points to 8.07 percent. The money shortage even caused a delayed closing of interbank trading. Traders said they had no hope of a cash injection from the People’s Bank of China.’

‘Tight liquidity has weighed on the government’s bond issuance. The yield of a 10-year bond sold on Wednesday came out higher than market expectations. Last week, the Ministry of Finance failed to sell all of its bonds at an auction, the first time in 23 months.’

“If the central bank does not pump in some funding, current tight liquidity is very hard to be changed, and the money market rates will stay high,” said a research note of Southwest Securities.’

‘The central bank drained 2 billion yuan from the money market Tuesday despite calls for easing liquidity, a move interpreted as regulators’ commitment to rein in credit surge.’

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-06/20/c_124880968.htm

Comment by Mugsy
2013-06-21 03:18:58

“SHIBOR” but I read it as “SHITEBOR”. I am far too cynical.

 
 
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