People Are Afraid Prices Are Going Up, Up, Up!
The Santa Cruz Sentinel reports from California. “Near historically low mortgage rates, relatively low median home prices and solid median income have joined to create an excellent buying opportunity for the prospective homebuyer. In fact, the last time that housing affordability reached a high was in 2000 and as we all know, housing prices went on a tear for the following 6 years; that is, until the bubble popped. Housing affordability has been improving since it reached a low in 2007, when mortgage rates were stuck in the 6 to 7 percent range and home prices reached their peaks — the median price in Santa Cruz County hit a high of $790,000 in August. May’s median price in Santa Cruz County is $625,000, which represents an increase of 25 percent since May, 2012.”
“Although economists like to say that monthly housing costs should stay below 25 percent of household income to remain affordable, the mortgage industry allows a borrower to spend up to 50 percent of their gross monthly income on their PITI (Principal, Interest, Taxes, Insurance), which is a much higher ratio than we were able to offer homebuyers when I got into the business in 1986.”
“Given housing affordability today, real estate might just be the best possible investment that one can make. When you buy a home, you are combining a good investment opportunity with owning your own home with a forced savings account; it is a winning combination.”
The Los Angeles Times. “Real estate agent Mickey Knickerbocker was as surprised as anybody when her client closed on a $905,000 Manhattan Beach town house using ‘piggyback’ financing: a two-mortgage deal designed to minimize the down payment. Popular during the housing boom, piggybacks all but disappeared after the mortgage meltdown taught banks and regulators a big lesson: Borrowers needed to have skin in the game. So the loans seemed like a throwback to the days of carefree lending, especially on such a pricey property.”
“With home prices rising, risk is creeping back into mortgage lending. In addition to creative down-payment arrangements, mortgages on high-end properties — so-called jumbo loans — have also gotten plentiful and cheap. Meanwhile, banks are accepting borrowers with lower credit scores and allowing them to take on more debt relative to their incomes, experts and industry professionals say.”
“‘I don’t think, a year ago, I could have gotten loans that would have served this purpose,’ Knickerbocker said. ‘I didn’t even know … that this was going to be possible.’”
From CNBC. “Only a year after the housing market bottomed, ‘bubble’ talk has surfaced as soaring, double-digit price gains sweep markets across the country. An open house in Cheviot Hills—a neighborhood in West Los Angeles—attracted 150 people and brought in 14 bids before the home sold for 7 percent above the listing price at $2.9 million. ‘Prices in some areas are just out of control,’ said Scott Tamkin, an agent in Los Angeles. ‘As soon as a good property comes on the market at a reasonable price—bam! It’s gone in multiple offers, often times in cash.’”
“‘I wouldn’t be surprised if a bubble happened again,’said Eileen Bermingham, a local realtor servicing the Bay Area. ‘It definitely has the same characteristics as the last time it happened. People are afraid prices are just going to go up and up and up.’”
The Sacramento Bee. “A posh golf course community in rural Placer County that bankrupted bridge-building magnate C.C. Myers has been relaunched under new ownership. But the question remains: Is the Sacramento region’s housing market ready for the Winchester Country Club, with its million-dollar houses in the boondocks? Even during the housing bubble, Winchester had trouble selling its pricey lots. Now, however, experts say it may be perfectly poised to attract part of the massive wave of retiring baby boomers, especially with the price of entry for a house and golf membership far below what it was in the mid-2000s.”
“In a phone interview with The Bee last week, he estimated he lost $150 million on Winchester. He also lost his own palatial home in the development in 2009. The bank initially listed the unfinished home for $1.5 million, but in 2010 Myers bought it back for $650,000. Today, Myers, 75, lives in the hilltop home. ‘Our dogs like it, and we like it,’ he said. ‘As much money as I lost up there, I ought to be able to get something back.’”
“Home sites that Myers said reached $600,000 at the height of the housing market boom are currently valued in the $200,000 range, said land appraiser David Jarrette. Construction estimates range from $100 to $200 per square foot, builders said. ‘This is going to be a test for the market,’ Jarrette said.”
NBC Los Angeles. “A new national survey says homebuilders are feeling optimistic about sales, and in parts of the Inland Empire, like Corona, new home construction is booming. But the construction comes as foreclosure filings took a noticeable jump over the past several weeks, putting Riverside and San Bernardino counties in the top 15 highest foreclosure rates in the state.”
“According to RealtyTrac foreclosure filings in Riverside county actually went up 13 percent in May from April and 9 percent in San Bernardino county. ‘What you have is a legacy of still a large number of homes that are underwater where they haven’t been paying and I think the financial institutions are starting to take action,’ says John Husing, an economist in the Inland Empire.”
“He says in January there was a noticeable lull in foreclosure filings, which could be why foreclosures are now climbing. ‘And they’re now in the process of catching up,’ says Husing.”
The Fresno Bee. “Fresno City Council Member Clint Olivier on Thursday introduced an act that would cut development impact fees for builders and encourage infill development within the city. The idea is to make it affordable for owners of vacant residential city lots, one acre or smaller, to rebuild the homes that once stood there. There are nearly 3,000 empty lots collecting trash, weeds and inviting crime in the city, Olivier said.”
The Desert Dispatch. “A lower cost of living has drawn a new migration of residents from the Los Angeles area to the High Desert, but many of the new arrivals have struggled to find work. Shauntay Lazard, 24, a single mother of two-year-old twin girls, moved three months ago from East Los Angeles — first coming to Victorville to stay with a relative before getting her own place in Barstow. She had a simple explanation for the choice. ‘It’s cheap,’ she said.”
“Lazard said Barstow was recommended to her by the San Bernardino County Housing Authority in order to avoid a year-long wait for government subsidized housing in other parts of the county. A former student at California State University, Los Angeles, pursuing a bachelor’s degree in finance, she said she is continuing her education online and job-hunting. So far she’s had no luck. ‘I’ve applied everywhere,’ she said, ‘I’ve been putting in applications but I haven’t heard back.’”
“While some want to get out, there are plenty trying to get in. David Andre Johnson, a Realtor in Barstow, said that the housing market in the High Desert is at ‘an incline.’ On Thursday, he was showing a home to a family of five from Long Beach. ‘You really are starting to see people move up from the Los Angeles area,’ Johnson said. ‘I think they’re basing it off the price of the economy and low crime. I guess they’re looking at Barstow, Victorville, Apple Valley and the High Desert in general as a better place to raise a family.’”
“But he also said many home offers in the High Desert are being made by investors. ‘The housing market is definitely picking up pace,’ he said. ‘We see a lot of houses that have sold and they’re having multiple offers on them. … It started picking up toward the end of last year.’”
It’s not prices, but interest rates, that are going up, up, up!
At a yield of 3.638%, the 30-year T-bond has dropped in value by 14.9% since May 2, when the yield was 2.83%. By the time the 30-year yield reaches 4%, the drop will exceed 20%.
June 24, 2013, 7:54 a.m. EDT
Treasurys extend slide on Fed policy; 10-yr: 2.64%
By Ben Eisen
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Treasurys continued to sell off in Asia and Europe Monday, pushing haven government debt yields up to their highest levels since 2011. Treasurys have been selling off since the Federal Reserve indicated it may began winding down its bond-purchase program later this year if data continue to show economic growth. The 10-year note (10_YEAR +3.85%) yield, which moves inversely to price, was up 10 basis points on the day at 2.636%. The 30-year bond (30_YEAR +0.86%) yield was up 5.5 basis points at 3.638%, and the 5-year note (5_YEAR +7.58%) yield was up 9.5 basis points at 1.526%.
Whac:
Why u gotta be a downer? Just be happy, not right, k?
Why can’t I be happy AND right?
…… as demand goes down down down! LOLZ
“He also lost his own palatial home in the development in 2009. The bank initially listed the unfinished home for $1.5 million, but in 2010 Myers bought it back for $650,000….“Home sites … currently valued in the $200,000 range”
“‘This is going to be a test for the market,’ Jarrette said.”
The market has already been tested. Myers bought his own palace back from the bank for $50/ft2, elevator and all.
The boomers I know who are considering retirement are not planning on a 10,000 ft2 palace in the boonies. They are downsizing and trying to figure out how to get out of debt before they die on the job.
“They are downsizing and trying to figure out how to get out of debt before they die on the job.”
LMAO….. so true.
That’s why we paid cash for our home and remodel. No debt for us aging Baby Boomers is the way to go.
65 (which I’m not) was the free & clear target age.
And you got ripped off.
What’s it feel like?
HA
Two paths. One paying $2,500/mo in rent(post home sale).
The other path, buying a modest one-story at a 45% haircut from the peak of HB 1.0. Sensible solution for our situation.
Nuff said.
Our buyer broker did a fabulous job. Locked us into the deal, and then went to work for us. Great guy. Even came over to help us and he removed all our trash for us. A mensch.
I had a realtor once actually buy me a Christmas tree! Having them take out the trash sounds better though.
“Locked us into the deal”
LOLZ
Yeah…. you’re locked in alright.
How much do you have in the dump?
Blue,
He came over with a saw, and took off all the wall of mirrors in the bathrooms. He helped us pull up carpeting, hauled all our trash (as I said), helped me remove bushes, and so on. He was amazing. 6 months after the deal closed, he was still doing things for us. He even went to storage w/ me (my husband got injured) and helped me remove stuff. I mean, when I say “mensch”, I mean it.
And with multiple offers against us, got us a fair deal. He’s not your normal REIC person.
And his son did the demo work for cheap (almost free). Really nice kid w/ movie star looks.
“got us a fair deal.”
You got ripped off. How severe was it?
“attracted 150 people and brought in 14 bids before the home sold for 7 percent above the listing price at $2.9 million”
Is the rest of America actually that repulsive to Californians that they would rather participate in this than move somewhere else?
I wish I could go to one of these showings, it almost seems like part of the CA experience, and therefore something I would want to do as a tourist. Beach, Hollywood, Price is Right, open house.
Is the rest of America actually that repulsive to Californians that they would rather participate in this than move somewhere else?
Apparently so. Which wouldn’t matter except that they have so much political clout that they can force some things down the throats of those they despise. And then wonder why they are disliked by the rubes.
Maybe that’s just a matter of perspective. I’d say the reverse is much more often true. But either way it tends to be limited to cultural and social issues. When it comes to economic policy Wall Street and the Fed are calling the shots.
You’re forgetting about central California, which is more repulsive than most anywhere else in the country. People talk like California is some liberal-only enclave, when there are probably more big gulp rednecks in the state than any other.
Russ
We live in a nice pocket of Simi Valley.
It’s like going back in time. Lots of
positives, but the negative is ugly.
And all in the name of Jebus.
People talk like California is some liberal-only enclave, when there are probably more big gulp rednecks in the state than any other.
That might be true, but in our winner take all system where we only tend to see the laws and lawmakers that come from your state from a distance, they do tend to be overwhelmingly liberal and insensitive to rural issues at a national level. Even though you may have some rednecks there.
Going back to the original post, you do have a significant majority that seems to find the rest of the country repulsive. And we notice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2012
It can be very lonely voting Red, but living in one of the Bluest parts of CA…
California has the best of both worlds… enough liberals to spend a lot of money, but enough conservatives to prevent enough taxes from being collected to pay for it all.
That worked for a long time, anyway.
Wow…and now that’s our whole country.
For some reason, this makes me want to witness a lot of hardship among these people. Hard to explain.
Listing prices are nuts right now. I’m looking at 2006/7 listing prices when there aren’t even comps available because nothing in that price point is even selling. But people don’t even do their own homework. They just listen to the local news shill, Rick Reagan, tell them how prices are going up now. He also advised viewers last week to buy foreign stocks. Bwa ha hahaha. Rick Reagan, the Jim Cramer of the Syracuse market.
Yet nothing is selling.
Why is it that NYSAR no longer reports sales volume?
Ben
Thank you for this mornings post.
Amnesia and hopium are a toxic mix.
‘But he also said many home offers in the High Desert are being made by investors. ‘The housing market is definitely picking up pace,’ he said. ‘We see a lot of houses that have sold and they’re having multiple offers on them. …’
This made me think of:
‘There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda.… You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning.…’
‘And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave.…’
‘So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.’
The best poets were Bipolar. Timeless.
Greece had their Socrates and we had our Thompson.
PITI At 50 pct, huh?
The Housing Bubble is so toast that it isn`t even funny.
‘Although economists like to say that monthly housing costs should stay below 25 percent of household income to remain affordable, the mortgage industry allows a borrower to spend up to 50 percent of their gross monthly income on their PITI’
I have to ask the writer, who makes the loans, economists or the mortgage industry?
After buying a car and paying taxes, one has about $100 to live on each month in that world.
…but visa is there to take up the slack and give you the things you deserve.
You are right on the Vegas front. My wife and I were thinking of relocating to the Vegas area but after a recon trip out there to look at neighborhoods and hearing from the real estate agent about how houses are getting multiple offers and how much prices have shot up (she said it like it was a good thing) we have put it on hold. I think Vegas and some other markets are trying to jump right back on the bubble train and I am sure it will play out much faster this time as everyone tries to time the market and make a bunch of money before it goes south yet again.
Eric
We were going to relocate to Vegas,
but after going there and really checking it out,
decided it wasn’t our flavor. You made a wise choice, imho.
Hot, tacky, and we previewed homes during bug season. Swarms of bugs. The new home builder kept the doors closed. You could barely see the pool from the cloud of bugs. (The pool was crystal clear.)
As you can see, invetory in Las Vegas is shooting up.
http://www.movoto.com/statistics/nv/las-vegas.htm#city=&time=5Y&metric=Inventory&type=0
For the record, our monthly rent has remained under 25pct for eight years and actually declined as a pct of our household income.
And with so many rental investment properties soon to hit the market and a rising dollar, I am actually expecting rents to decline in the near term compared to purchase costs for similar homes.
Ours is about 6% of gross income now. Banking cash and giggling like a miser as interest rates creep up. The plan is to get a house without a loan when the real crash hits.
Russ
Great plan.
Being mortgage free
is wonderful.
If you want privacy
have the buyer financing: cash blocked
in the MLS. Wish we did.
How do you put a roof over
your head so cheap?
Donkey….
Renters are mortgage free. And at half the monthly cost of buying.
HA
Stop w/ the name calling.
Very childlike.
Rents are monthly expense,
that never end, those of us
paid in full don’t have.
Get REAL.
Owning a home outright is wonderful.
Troll
Donkey,
Rents are a fraction of the expense of housing at current inflated asking prices.
Donkey,
How much did you pay for your dump?
So much unnecessary bitterness. Wonder what that’s all about. Generally it means we are not happy with ourselves and lack compassion.
Awww….. good morning Oprah.
I live out in the country and do a tech job remotely. I’d be a scraping-by schlub in the bay area, but out here I’m J.L. Gotbucks.
Russ
Thanks. That explains it.
Good for you.
Hubby use to work for Intel.
351 Aristotle St, Simi Valley, CA 93065
4 bedsBathrooms:2 bathsSingle Family:1,725 sq ftLot:6,618 sq ftYear Built:1963Last Sold: Sep 2006 for $439,000
for sale 330K
cactus
Greek Tract. I don’t think that’s the real
price, more like a bidding war price. That tract backs up to Easy St. On Redfin 186 days. Short Sale Alert
We got in a bidding war in the Texas Tract and the house closed at $120K more than the list. Luckily, we pulled our offer when we saw people were macedonian.
Russ
A friend of 30+ years
does computer repair and
virus fixes. His business has had
a great run lately. He works from home.
Great gig if you can get it.
HA
Aww, the Grinch needs a new schick.
I wish I had Oprah’s dough and connections.
Keep running from the truth Donkey.
“He also lost his own palatial home in the development in 2009. The bank initially listed the unfinished home for $1.5 million, but in 2010 Myers bought it back for $650,000.”
I thought that was illegal. Banks won’t sell you back your own house after you let it foreclose, will they? Maybe he bought it from a flipper. I wonder if it was fraud.
BARFSTEW??? ugh
“Real estate agent Mickey Knickerbocker was as surprised as anybody when her client closed on a $905,000 Manhattan Beach town house using ‘piggyback’ financing.
B-U-B-B-L-E T-R-O-U-B-L-E
This WILL end badly.