When The Price Is No Longer Rational
Some housing bubble news from around the globe. The Myanmar Times, “There is no bubble in the property market and prices of land will continue to rise for the next few years, presidential adviser U Aung Tun Thet told a seminar. Property ‘flipping,’ in which properties are bought and sold on the same day, is likely in the future, he added. Flipping could lead to competitive prices, he told the seminar. ‘We’ve seen that property price have reached twice the prices of neighbouring Thailand,’ he said, pointing to industrial zones near Yangon like Hlaing Thar Yar where an acre of land sells for US$530,000 – 12 times higher than a similar plot in Orlando, Florida.”
The Jakarta Post. “Bank Indonesia (BI) is planning to curb the soaring property and housing prices — attributed to pervasive speculations — expressing its concern over a possible bubble in the fast-growing credit segment. Currently, there are 35,002 debtors with two or more mortgages, with their outstanding loans amounting to an eye-popping Rp 31.8 trillion (US$3.18 billion), BI data shows. At least 3,800 debtors have three to nine mortgages, while a small number of debtors even as many as fifteen mortgages. The mortgages finance the purchase of houses for speculative purposes.”
“BI Deputy Governor Halim Alamsyah said the country’s low-interest rate regime had encouraged speculative play as people apply for mortgages for investment, rather than residential, purposes. ‘Based on our study, those type 70 [square meters] and above have a tendency of bubble, because the price is no longer rational,’ he told reporters.”
From China Daily. “Burdened by overcapacity in manufacturing, local governments are finding the current downturn more difficult to cope with than the 2008-09 crisis. Central government officials have expressed their commitment to leading the economy away from its investment-reliant, credit-driven growth model. ‘If local governments succeed in persuading the central government to bail them out, the task of cutting overcapacity can never be accomplished,’ said Guan Qingyou, assistant dean of the Minsheng Securities Research Institute. ‘We experienced the same situation in 2008-09. We cannot afford to make the same mistake again.’”
“Despite the slowdown in industrial output, local governments in general still posted a decent growth in fiscal revenue. From January to May, fiscal revenue at local levels rose 13.4 percent from a year ago. The reason is that they accelerated their pace of selling land. According to housing brokerage 5i5j, revenue from selling land in the first half of this year for 306 local governments soared by 60 percent to 1.13 trillion yuan ($184 billion). But economists said the overwhelming reliance on land sales is not sustainable.”
The Telegraph in Australia. “Industry experts said a big increase in first homebuyers entering the market in the past financial year had stolen back the momentum from landlords and investors. Figures show the number of vacant rentals in the metropolitan area doubled in six months to 4,066 at the end of June. First homebuyer Jake Buswell, 22, who snapped up a $395,000 three-bedroom, one-bathroom home in Orelia in June, said it was the right time to buy. ‘I’d just finished university and it was something I’ve been looking to do for a while,’ he said. ‘I thought if I get in now, I’ll get in before prices go up.’”
SunLive in New Zealand. “John Key is shutting thousands of first home buyers out of the market with his plans to impose lending limits for home mortgages, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford and Finance spokesperson David Parker said. ‘Prices are spiralling out of the reach of first home buyers. Putting lending limits on banks will prevent poorer families becoming home owners. It advantages property investors and locks out first home buyers,’ says Phil Twyford.”
“‘John Key is completely out of touch. The problem for first home buyers isn’t lending, it’s the lack of affordable homes. House prices are increasing because there are too many speculators in the market and very few new homes are being built in an affordable price range,’ said David Parker.”
The Moscow Times. “There are 96 apartment buildings in Moscow that are more than 26 stories high. A third of them are new properties coming on to the market, according to a study that the developer Gras Group released. Prices are expected to jump from the current average of 285,000 per square meter to 480,000 rubles per square meter in five years, according to Yevgeny Shevchenko, commercial director at Gras Group. Despite the steep prices, customers are willing to pay more for skyscraper apartments. Sixty percent of Gras Group clients buy the apartments on the high floors as an investment.”
“‘We speculatively overcharged for the last three floors. On one hand it was something of an experiment and, on the other, a rather good move,’ Shevchenko said about Gras Group’s high-rise complexes. ‘As soon as you raise prices on the last three floors, a person comes along who wants to buy the most expensive apartment.’”
Investment & Business News on the UK. “According to Halifax data, the ratio of average house prices to the national earnings average for men is currently 4.58. It has been higher – 5.83 in July 2007, but in January 2000 the ratio was 3.37. In March 1989, just before house prices crashed, the ratio was 4.97. In April of this year inflation –as measured by the CP index – was 2.4 per cent. Average wages, including bonuses, rose by 1.3 per cent. In fact inflation has been greater than rises in wages every month since May 2010. Households are struggling, as indeed they have been for a long time, yet house prices are rising.”
“Working out why is not rocket science; it is because interest rates are at record lows; it is because of the government’s own schemes to kick life into the market, and it is because of lack of supply, which is not helped by planning regulations that need reforming. Maybe there is another factor at play, too. It is as if there is something hardwired into the British psyche – an inbuilt belief that house prices only ever rise; that your home is an investment; that there is this thing called a housing ladder upon which you need to climb, and ascend as soon as possible.”
“All of these assumptions are open to debate, but in the UK they are rarely even questioned. Such attitudes can become self-fulfilling. In the short run, rising house prices are good for the economy. But we have been here before haven’t we? We were here in 2007. The truth is that the UK boom of the mid noughties, and recent rises in spending have been fuelled by falling savings.”
“Greater savings leading to greater investment could create an economic recovery that is sustainable. Alas instead, savings seem to fund credit for the mortgage industry. Instead of more investment, we get higher house prices. It is a vicious circle, and – as far as the UK is concerned – it really is vicious.”
The Calgary Herald. “Housing starts in the Calgary region dropped sharply in June, according to a report by Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. The agency said total starts in the Calgary census metropolitan area fell by 23 per cent compared with June 2012 to 912 units. The plunge was primarily the result of a decline in multi-family starts of 45.2 per cent to 358 units. Meanwhile, the single-detached market saw starts increase by 4.3 per cent to 554 units. Canadian housing starts dipped 2.5 per cent in June to 199,600 annualized units.”
“While the pace of construction over the first six months of this year suggests that construction has cooled, the recent string of near 200,000 housing starts over May and June is a pace of new homebuilding that may be too strong to sustain on an ongoing basis, said Diana Petramala, economist with TD Economics. ‘There is an estimated oversupply of 250,000 new homes, about a year’s worth of construction activity, many of which are under construction now and will likely start to hit the market over 2013 and 2014,’ she said.”
“Greater savings leading to greater investment could create an economic recovery that is sustainable…”
What does a world with overcapacity in everything invest in that is sustainable?
Affordable housing?
“Affordable housing?”
AKA condos….. Bleh. Too many of those.
Al:
Why can’t single-family houses be affordable? They have always been affordable before, and they are certainly affordable to rent.
because the ponzi scheme relies on rising prices.
Affordability is predicated on Rent/Mortgage divided by # of contributors to the payment.
Documented near Disneyland, 23 to 26 persons in one apartment.
Pragmatism and landlord greed often overcome community (as a whole) values.
“Affordable Housing” in our 1984-esque Newspeak means ever higher prices with more government subsidies, and the skim taken by the financial sector. All of course, enabled by the politicians who get kickbacks from the skim.
From the Myanmar article:
“Dr Myo Thet… told the seminar that the high price of land is a barrier to development and called on the realtors’ association to help contain surging prices.”
Yes, the realtors’ association is exactly the group to call on to help contain surging prices. Dr. Thet then called on arsonists to help extinguish raging wildfires.
“The problem for first home buyers isn’t lending, it’s the lack of affordable homes. House prices are increasing because there are too many speculators in the market and very few new homes are being built in an affordable price range,’ said David Parker.”
As in New Zealand, so in America.
As far as I can tell, there are no major cities in the NZ interior, the whole country looks like a speculators’ paradise. The regular NZ citizens don’t have any lower-priced-but-still-decent-sized Memphis / Tulsa / St. Louis / Little Rock / Indianapolis etc. to escape to.
Correct, if you want a job you need to live in one of the country’s super overpriced cities, most likely Auckland.
I cannot believe how long this bubble has gone on. Can it go another decade, or longer? This is insane.
And it’s WAY frothier outside the USA.
Living in a European 1%er enclave, the bubble is alive and well. Some sectors of the local market are sagging due to bad prospects for banking secrecy in the next couple years. High end properties and small apartments in new developments are higher than ever.
I took a course in securitization as part of an llm at the local university. The essay question on the final exam was about developing a standard mortgage system for the EU. Gave me a chance to rant and rave!
My thought, just before reading your post:
“I can’t believe there is still anything interesting to talk about as regards the housing bubble, almost ten years now since Ben initiated the conversation.”
And yet here we are, just as amazed as we were yesteryear at the ever-expanding proportions of the mania.
‘Jakarta remains at the heart of this boom: A joint study by the Washington-based Urban Land Institute (ULI) and the Jakarta branch of PricewaterhouseCoopers, Emerging Trends in Real Estate: Asia Pacific 2013, found that the capital ranked first as the most preferred destination for real estate investment in the region. Indeed, Jakarta shot up from 11th place last year, overtaking Singapore as the previous leader.’
‘Real estate firm Knight Frank also noted that Jakarta topped the list of its index of price growth in the world’s luxury real estate markets, with prices in the city having risen 38 per cent last year. Average property prices for Jakarta currently stand at US$346 per square foot, up from US$250 in the previous year.’
‘The My First Home loan scheme and the Perumahan Rakyat 1 Malaysia (PR1M) projects are financially unrealistic, numerically impossible and have made little impact on Malaysians unable to purchase homes, DAP charged today. Kluang MP Liew Chin Tong pointed out that under the My First Home scheme, a 30-year-loan on a RM400,000 house, at an interest rate of 4.4%, would cost owners RM2,004 in monthly repayments. The My First Home loan scheme offers 100% loans to Malaysians earning below RM5,000 per month who wish to purchase homes costing up to RM400,000.’
‘If the borrower earns a RM3,000 monthly salary, this amounts to 67% of his gross monthly income and 77% of his take home (minus EPF contribution). No bank in their right mind would approve such a loan,’ he stressed. ‘Given that 80% of Malaysian households earn less than RM3,000 a month, it is unrealistic to expect them to be able to afford the SPR home loan. This hardly makes a dent in the statistics of Malaysians who cannot afford to purchase property with the skyrocketing prices, particularly in urban areas.’
‘Calgary saw the biggest sales gain in single-family homes worth more than $1 million in the first half of 2013, but luxury condominium sales sank in the city and across Canada, according to Sotheby’s International Realty Canada. The closely watched condominium market saw double-digit sales drops in the six months of 2013 when compared to the same time last year. Luxury condo sales fared worst in Calgary with a 37-percent drop, Vancouver posted a 20-percent fall, Toronto sales slipped 19 percent, with Montreal also seeing a 19-percent dip.’
‘In February the State Bank of Vietnam estimated non-performing loans at US$7.8 billion, or 6 percent of the total outstanding loans of $130 billion. Processing and manufacturing accounted for 22 percent, and real estate for 19 percent, a report by the CIEM on July 9 showed. State firms, which got 17-19 percent of total loans, accounted for 70 percent of the bad debts. The public sector accounted for only 1 percent of the country’s firms and performed badly; foreign and domestic private firms accounted for 81-83 percent of loans and 30 percent of bad debts. Eighty-four percent of the bad debts were mortgage-backed.’
‘Right now, real estate values in Panama’s highland country around Boquete are perhaps the best they have ever been—certainly the best in seven years. I’ve scouted Boquete many times in the past decade. Now, for the first time in over six years, I’m seeing deeply undervalued opportunities from distressed sellers.’
‘In 2004 and 2005 Boquete really caught on. The trickle of pioneers turned to a flood of North American real estate shoppers, developers, and speculators. When I visited in 2007, I counted more than 20 real estate projects at various stages of planning and development—targeted mostly at the North American market. Prices shot through the roof. A two-bedroom, two-bathroom condo could set you back $200,000 or more.’
‘But then the housing market in many parts of the U.S. collapsed. Credit dried up back home. Buyers could no longer buy with the stroke of a pen to release an equity line of credit on their home. With few buyers over the next six years, the market ground to a halt. And now you’ll find some private sellers who need out.’
Prices shot through the roof. A two-bedroom, two-bathroom condo could set you back $200,000 or more.’
In a third world country where GDP per capita is $9000.
By global standards the USA is cheap.
‘By global standards the USA is cheap’
I don’t think that matters much with houses or commercial property even. Am I likely to say, boy it sure is expensive here in Flagstaff, I’m headed to Jakarta. The real standard is what locals can afford. From the UK piece:
‘inflation has been greater than rises in wages every month since May 2010. Households are struggling, as indeed they have been for a long time, yet house prices are rising’
Inflation adjusted wages have been falling in the US for a long time. House prices should have fallen for decades too. I don’t know if I agree with this, but it’s interesting:
‘The truth is that the UK boom of the mid noughties, and recent rises in spending have been fuelled by falling savings. Greater savings leading to greater investment could create an economic recovery that is sustainable. Alas instead, savings seem to fund credit for the mortgage industry. Instead of more investment, we get higher house prices.’
When you were 22 YO, could you have done this:
‘Jake Buswell, 22, who snapped up a $395,000 three-bedroom, one-bathroom home in Orelia in June, said it was the right time to buy. ‘I’d just finished university and it was something I’ve been looking to do for a while,’ he said. ‘I thought if I get in now, I’ll get in before prices go up.’
I’m not saying that housing is affordable in the USA, just that prices in other countries have become insanely expensive, especially when compared to local wages.
Gotta love that a recent grad in Oz snapped up a 400K house. A 400K house in my nabe just won’t sell.
“prices in other countries have become insanely expensive”
But just like here in the corrupt Triaxis, they’re not selling.
Your point?
What you are supposed to say:
“Boy it sure is expensive to invest here in Flagstaff, I’m headed to Jakarta to snatch up some real estate investments.”
Excellent take, if you look at homes international the good old USA is a bargain
I have a bulletin for you-
When you look at “homes” based on construction costs, they’re not “a bargain”.
The land is killing the builders and development of the project.
Is “the land” bearing knives? Packing sidearms?
‘Asia Pacific 2013, found that the capital ranked first as the most preferred destination for real estate investment in the region. Indeed, Jakarta shot up from 11th place last year, overtaking Singapore as the previous leader.’
Sounds like the housing bubble credit tsunami has inundated a wide swath of Indian Ocean locales.
Indonesia has to be the late sleeper/shocker in the housing bubble. I wish I could travel there and report back.
Myanmar is the one that floors me; this country has just barely opened up to the rest of the world.
‘Land prices in China witnessed hefty rises in the second quarter of this year, as developers pinned their hopes on surging house prices, official data showed Tuesday. According to the Ministry of Land and Resources (MLR), an abnormal price increase had been found in 115 land deals during the April-June period, with the premium rates averaged at 142 percent above the base price for bidding, up 22 percentage points from the previous quarter.’
‘Land prices in major cities monitored by the ministry stood at 3,226 yuan (520.32 U.S. dollars) per square-meter, with commercial use land priced at 6,044 yuan, residential land at 4,799 yuan and industrial land at 684 yuan. ‘Prices have been climbing for three consecutive quarters and have entered a relatively high level range.’ the ministry said in a report.’
$500 for a yard of dirt. I can’t imagine a business that would be able to afford that.
My dad told me stories of seeing factory work, including injection molding, being done on 20th floors in Hong Kong.
The machines were probably carried up the stairs by some wizened old guy with a strap around his head.
“….Prices are expected to jump from the current average of 285,000 per square meter to 480,000 rubles per square meter in five years, according to Yevgeny Shevchenko, commercial director at Gras Group….”
Hmmm, conversion factors suggest this is over $1500/SF. That is off the charts here in the US, except for perhaps NYC, for which I have no metrics.
And people are expected to jump through hoops to get their hands on this property? Why would they?
“except for perhaps NYC, for which I have no metrics.”
Given your complete and absolute absence of knowledge relating to “replacement costs”, you have no “metrics”, period.
“Burdened by overcapacity in manufacturing, local governments are finding the current downturn more difficult to cope with than the 2008-09 crisis. Central government officials have expressed their commitment to leading the economy away from its investment-reliant, credit-driven growth model.”
Sounds like Chinese leaders are going to try their best to avoid the dire fate of the U.S. economy.