August 22, 2013

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-08-22 03:11:04

Houses are rapidly depreciating asset no different that automobiles.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:34:06

Important Differences:
1) Houses depreciate over a much longer time span than automobiles.
2) Though both car- and home-loans go underwater the day you sign the papers, your home loan will stay underwater alot longer — ALOT!

Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 06:53:51

the appraiser just gave the local shanty the thumbs up for 30 more years!!!

Comment by rms
2013-08-22 07:17:54

the appraiser just gave the local shanty the thumbs up for 30 more years!!!

Is your house sending you on a European vacation?

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Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 07:45:25

of course. The equity has been rolling in thanks to QE.

 
Comment by Middle Coaster
2013-08-22 09:47:22

I know a lady who liberated most of her home’s equity in 2006 to, among other things, go on a European vacation or three. She is meeting with a bankruptcy attorney this week. A realtor just priced her house at half of its 2006 “worth”.

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 11:43:37

Where is this house? Kenilworth? Winnetka? Sheridan Road right on Lake Mich?

 
Comment by Middle Coaster
2013-08-22 13:57:48

Nah, north side of Chicago, Ravenswood area. Nice little house in a nice neighborhood. She could have had a snug harbor for her retirement years if she had paid the thing off instead of borrowing to the hilt. Still, I feel very sorry for her. Another housing bubble victim who will never be able to stop working now.

 
Comment by polly
2013-08-22 14:40:42

Victim? She “sold” at or near the top. That is usually considered clever. It makes her a beneficiary of the bubble, not a victim.

What she did with the money after that is an entirely different matter.

 
Comment by United States of Moral Hazard
2013-08-22 16:42:08

Yeah, this lady is no victim. I’d say the bank is the victim (or taxpayer), as they have to take the loss. This woman had the benefit of living high off the hog while honest people were slaving away, not going on multiple European vacations.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:02:02

Any thoughts on for how much longer the Treasury bond rout will last?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:14:33

CREDIT MARKETS
Updated August 21, 2013, 4:34 p.m. ET
Treasurys Retreat After Fed
By MIN ZENG

The benchmark Treasury bond price tumbled to a near two-year low as the Federal Reserve’s July policy meeting minutes bolstered expectations that the central bank would cut back on its stimulative bond buying as soon as next month.

The benchmark 10-year note’s yield climbed as high as 2.895%, coming close to topping a two-year peak of 2.899% set on Monday, according to CQG. Bond prices fall when their yields rise.

In late-afternoon trade, the benchmark 10-year Treasury note’s price fell by 20/32, yielding 2.888%, according to Tradeweb.

The minutes for the July 30-31 meeting showed Fed officials remained split over the timing for the central bank to start cutting back on its $85 billion bond-buying program, designed to boost liquidity and spur economic growth.

But Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke’s timeline to wind down the buying of Treasury bonds and mortgage-backed securities garnered broad support among committee members, it showed.

Mr. Bernanke said during the news conference following the June policy meeting that the Fed would start scaling back on buying bonds later this year if the economic recovery gathers speed and that the program would end in mid-2014.

“The market thinks Bernanke enjoys the support of the committee on these asset purchases, and so the market heard a September tapering [in bond buying] is on track,” said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ.

The minutes showed Fed officials expect the U.S. economy to strengthen in the second half of the year. Several officials are confident that the housing market is resilient despite higher bond yields that pushed up mortgage rates.

Earlier Wednesday, a report showed U.S. existing home sales rose by 6.5% in July to the highest level in four years.

Anxiety over the Fed pulling back from buying bonds has sent bond prices tumbling and yields sharply higher over the past three months. The 10-year yield has soared from 1.61% at the start of May.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:38:19

Market Pulse Archives
Aug. 22, 2013, 3:20 a.m. EDT
Yield on 10-year note pushes past 2.9%

MADRID (MarketWatch) — Treasury prices fell to fresh two-year lows on Thursday, with the yield on the 10-year note (10_YEAR +0.93%) pushing past 2.9% for the first time in over two years. The yield reached a high of around 2.94% in Asian trading hours before backing off to 2.907%, according to FactSet Research.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:55:28

Bond Funds Lose $30.3 Billion in August in Big ‘Shift’
By Lisa Abramowicz & Christopher Condon - Aug 21, 2013 11:49 AM

U.S.-registered bond mutual and exchange-traded funds lost $30.3 billion to investor redemptions this month, putting them on track for their slowest year since 2004.

The withdrawals for the month through Aug. 19 are already the third-highest on record, following $69.1 billion of withdrawals in June and $42 billion in October 2008, according to a report dated yesterday by TrimTabs Investment Research in Sausalito, California. Bond funds have suffered $4 billion in redemptions this year, on pace for the biggest withdrawals since investors pulled $7 billion in 2004.

The prospect of losses in the fixed-income market and rising rates have spurred investors to retreat after pouring $1.2 trillion into bond mutual funds and ETFs from 2009 through 2012. Dollar-denominated corporate and government bonds lost 3.4 percent so far this year, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch index data, the biggest drop for comparable periods since 1981. The investor exodus has hit some of the most prominent bond fund managers including Pacific Investment Management Inc.’s Bill Gross, and DoubleLine Capital LP’s Jeffrey E. Gundlach.

These outflows mark an enormous shift for the bond world,” TrimTabs said in its report. “A vicious circle of losses and redemptions as the bond binge unwinds could get nasty.

Comment by Strawberrypicker
2013-08-22 07:06:10

“Dollar-denominated corporate and government bonds lost 3.4 percent so far this year”

I truly do not understand bonds or the bond market. How is losing 3.4 percent somehow a rout? How is this still not far safer than being in the rigged gamed stock market casino where you can lose that much in the blink of an eye?

If you take your money out of government bonds like all these people are apparently doing where do you put it so it is most safe?

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 10:20:51

In this case, cash would be safer. Waiting for the bottom with cash in your hand is muuuuuuuuch better than standing idly by while your portfolio evaporates.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 10:44:34

They are lumping durations together in order to understate the losses.

To get the real picture, look at the losses on 10-year and 30-year Treasurys since May 2, 2013.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:58:40

What percentage of Americans are completely oblivious to the bond market rout, whose duration is approaching four months (since May 2) with no sign of abating?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:42:02

Aug. 22, 2013, 9:18 a.m. EDT
How the Fed could cause another 1987 crash
Commentary: Rising interest rates and the gathering storm
By Brett Arends

Are investors high?

Stock market investors continue to ignore one of the biggest, fastest jumps in long-term interest rates on record.

Yes, the Dow slipped below 15,000 this week, but it remains near its long-term peak — despite the harrowing plunge in the bond market in the past couple of months, which has sent rates surging.

Indeed, I suspect one reason the stock market has risen is that some naive investors have calculated that they can be safe by “rotating” out of bonds and into stocks.

Ahem.

I sat down this week with one of the most experienced bond market gurus I know. When I asked him for his advice, he first suggested — only half jokingly — “panic.”

His second bit of advice? Keep calm and carry on. His wife just bought him a large “Keep Calm and Carry On” poster and had it framed. He’s going to take it into his office and hang it “where all the traders on our bond desk can see it.” We are, he believes, in an era of rising interest rates, and they’ll continue to rise much further than most people realize.

He concedes that that’s only his guess, of course.

But here’s what we do know.

At the start of May, the U.S. government could borrow money for 10 years at 1.6% interest. Today, barely four months later, it has to pay 2.88%.

At the start of May, someone buying a new home with a $200,000 mortgage was locking in monthly interest costs of $566. Today, thanks to the surge in mortgage rates, someone making the exact same purchase will have to pay $766 a month in interest.

A company with a BAA credit rating has seen its bond rates spike from 3% to 4% over the same period, and a riskier company with a BA rating jumped from 3.9% to 5.2%.

It’s easy to be fooled by the low absolute level of interest rates into thinking these are small moves. Rates are “only” up by 1% or 1.5%, after all. But actually these are huge moves, because they come from a low base. Mortgage costs are up about a third in a short period, from 3.4% to more than 4.4%. Uncle Sam’s cost of 10-year money has rocketed by 80%.

Comment by Strawberrypicker
2013-08-22 07:19:38

Again this makes no sense that the cost for the government to borrow money has skyrocketed. If that is so then aren’t all the budget projections waaaaay out the window? 2 banana makes the point that we borrow 46 cents for every government dollar spent. Doesn’t this mean that 46 cents is going to be dramatically and quickly higher? How’s that going to work out?

They’ll just keep printing, whether they are borrowing at 2 percent or 20, until outside forces act to crash it.

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Comment by Darrell In Phoenix
2013-08-22 09:09:15

As the Fed buys more government debt, we end up just paying the interest to ourselves. The Fed uses a portion of the interest to pay its bills, then hands the remainder back to the Treasury.

If rates rise too much, it is safe to assume the Fed will change its mind on “tapering”.

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 10:37:48

Strawberry:

Who will continue to print? The Federal Reserve? Do you mean that the Federal Reserve will continue to loosen its lending standards? They are already giving 0% overnight loans backed by junk collateral.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 11:26:23

2 banana makes the point that we borrow 46 cents for every government dollar spent.

That was true 5 years ago when the deficit was pushing $2T. It’s about half that much now. Still too much, but it is less than before.

Doesn’t this mean that 46 cents is going to be dramatically and quickly higher?

Not really, because the current debt is locked in at lower rates. It’s only new debt (and whatever happens to rollover) that will be stuck with a higher rate.

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:21:08

What percentage of Americans are completely oblivious to the bond market rout, whose duration is approaching four months (since May 2) with no sign of abating?

Given that just for starters that half don’t have a pot to piss in, I would say that percentage is very high.

 
 
Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 05:30:56

until the FED announces more QE to slop up all the treasuries foreigners and the govt are selling?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:32:21

How long?

How long can they fake it?

 
 
Comment by Resistor
2013-08-22 04:13:46

Any thoughts on for how much longer the housing bubble will last?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:23:07

I have two thoughts on how to research your answer:
1) Check out how long other historic asset bubbles lasted from the time they started to collapse until when they bottomed out.
2) Supplement the list with data on how and how much governments intervened, in order to gauge the effect of current government intervention on the likely duration.

A good case in point: Japan’s asset price bubble was clearly over as of 1990, but the denouement continues through the present, most likely due in part to the various damage mitigation measures which were instituted in the 1990s and beyond. So now they are out nearly a quarter of a century with no clear signs of recovery to be seen! E.g. the Nikkei stock market average is still off by something like 2/3 of its peak value in 1989 (down from 39K then to around 13K now).

Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-08-22 06:54:00

, but the denouement continues through the present, most likely due in part to the various damage mitigation measures which were instituted in the 1990s and beyond

Why is that the most likely reason?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 10:46:18

“Why is that the most likely reason?”

Because the market couldn’t ever find equilibrium, given ongoing efforts to prop it up.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-08-22 19:37:28

Sure it’s not demographics? Their Great Recession ended in the early 00s, despite all that government intervention.

Has there ever been a period of market equilibrium, anywhere? I can’t think of one. Keynesian post-WW2 America is the best I can come up with.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-08-22 19:46:48

‘I can’t think of one’

Surprise, surprise.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-08-22 19:49:35

Surprise, surprise.

Can you?

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-08-22 19:53:31

‘Has there ever been a period of market equilibrium, anywhere’

I suppose you are saying supply and demand have no relationship and all of economics is bunk. How about crackers? How about mouse traps? I don’t have time to go into it. Look up equilibrium for yourself.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 20:51:20

“Has there ever been a period of market equilibrium, anywhere? I can’t think of one. Keynesian post-WW2 America is the best I can come up with.”

With massive Federal Reserve Bank intervention at every turn of the business cycle in a never-ending effort to artificially churn up economic activity, in order to create the false impression that the economy would instantly fail, were it not for the Fed’s never-ending efforts to stimulate, why would you ever expect to find any sign of equilibrium, or any semblance of economic stability whatever?

A roiled market never stabilizes.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-08-22 21:23:50

‘A roiled market never stabilizes’

How about crackers? I buy stuff at the grocery store that hasn’t gone up and down by large amounts.

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 23:26:12

Re: Mousetraps.

Well, ten years ago you could spring a cat from the pound for $25. Now it’s up to $65.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:43:41

There is a notable difference now than in 2006, as everybody knows we are in a housing bubble at this point.

Mortgage lending at five-year high, raising housing bubble fears

Gross lending jumped to £16.6bn in July, up 12% on previous month and 29% higher than same period last year

Rupert Jones
theguardian.com, Tuesday 20 August 2013 06.27 EDT

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:47:50

Housing Bubble — the Sequel
Bill Tatro | Aug 22, 2013

Here we go again. Having just recently endured a one-hour phone conversation with my friend Steve, a mortgage broker, I’m a little bit confused and somewhat worried. Since most of the houses sold in the past year have been “all-cash” transactions, combined with the fact that mortgage applications have fallen off the cliff, I asked Steve if that means that the average person is no longer a buyer. Steve replied, “Define the average person.” I articulated, “It’s not someone who pays “all-cash” because I know that’s the technique on Wall Street, and I also know it’s a select few because mortgage applications are few and far between.” Steve then pressed me, “Define average.” I replied, “In the past, it’s always been a young man with a good job, he has a wife and two kids, and he’s looking for a nice home.” Steve laughed, “Really Opie, how’s Aunt Bee?” Taken slightly aback, I said, “Okay, Andy, who’s the new buyer?” Steve answered with the sound of deep concern in his voice, “Think 2006 all over again. The NINJA loan, which had been languishing in the auto sales arena, is starting to get life again. The so-called house ‘flippers’ are back with a vengeance. And those that walked away with a short-sale are now well rested, they’re alive and well and back in the game. In other words, it’s déjà vu all over again.

It would appear to me — with all political rhetoric aside — that the players who benefitted the most from the last housing debacle are definitely back in action. It’s a notorious group that includes the brokers, the banks, and of course, Wall Street. This infamous gang is also currently singing the familiar song of “this time, it’s different,” and regrettably, it appears that the general public has once again fallen in love with this very memorable tune.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-08-22 06:57:23

There’s a specuvestor house in my nabe that was foreclosed a few years ago. It was purchased and renovated in very strange ways. Saltillo tile on the driveway. Green and white awning between the sidewalk and front door. Plastic grass in the yard.

It was offered for rent at $1650/mo. and guess what? No takers.

Place is just sitting there. The rental sign fell off the plastic fence a few months ago.

I predict another foreclosure.

Comment by Middle Coaster
2013-08-22 09:50:02

Plastic grass!?

My husband wants to Astroturf what’s left of our lawn. ;)

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Comment by rms
2013-08-22 19:02:22

“It was offered for rent at $1650/mo. and guess what? No takers.”

+1 We have one of these “specuvestor flips” a couple of blocks away asking $1250/month after it wouldn’t sell. WTF? This is flyover country for crikey sakes!

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Comment by rms
2013-08-22 18:05:11

“The NINJA loan, which had been languishing in the auto sales arena, is starting to get life again.”

The automobile business in this country is thoroughly corrupt and on life support because their chit cars are too f_cking expensive. Were it not for the government back-stopping their phony 8-yr balloon payment loans they would tip over like a canary in a coal mine.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:51:09

The Santa Cruz Sentinel editors welcome the return of the housing bubble as “good news for the local economy, especially if people are feeling more comfortable about spending without worrying they’re going to lose their homes.”

Editorial: The expanding housing bubble
By Sentinel Editorial Board
Santa Cruz Sentinel
Posted: 08/21/2013 06:56:55 PM PDT

The housing market is back, with a vengeance, in Santa Cruz County.

But is it just, um, blowing bubbles in anticipation of another bursting?

After more than five years of foreclosures, short sales and plunging equity, local homeowners are, if not feeling chipper about their most important and usually biggest investment, finally sleeping better these nights.

Despite a recent uptick in interest rates, sales continue to climb, and so do prices.

Of course this is depressing news for the legions of would-be buyers who dream of living along the coast in beautiful Santa Cruz County, but good news for the local economy, especially if people are feeling more comfortable about spending without worrying they’re going to lose their homes.

Sales of single-family homes in July were up 33 percent from a year ago — 210 homes were sold — and the median price of homes sold in the county hit $601,000 — up from $483,000 only last January. Meanwhile, short sales and foreclosures continue to drop significantly. Listings, especially of mid-price homes, remain relatively low, down 20 percent from a year ago as many homeowners continue to wait for the market to increase even more before selling.

And it might, since the current prices are still below the peak market frenzy of 2005-07, when the market peaked at a median, or midpoint, sales price of $775,000.

Real estate has been on a solid upswing for more than a year now, especially in even higher priced markets in the Peninsula and San Francisco. High prices over the hill often influence sales in Santa Cruz County, which can lag more urban areas. Nationally, home values are up 10 percent through June this year, the fastest pace since 1977.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:52:52

Bubbles Bloom Anew in Desert as Buyers Wager on Las Vegas
By Kathleen M. Howley - Aug 20, 2013 7:00 AM PT

Bubbles are inflating in Nevada and Arizona even as housing in the rest of the country recovers at a more sustainable pace. Gains in the two desert cities are the biggest since the height of the real estate boom, just before their plunge to the bottom of the national housing collapse. This year, Las Vegas and Phoenix have topped the nation in price increases, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller property-value index.

They’re clearly in bubbles,” said Karl Case, one of the creators of the index. “What can go up can go down — real quick.”

 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 04:53:36

It’s not a bubble. This recovery is REAL.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:57:17

So is global warming!

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 05:26:29

As long as the obama $1 trillion/year deficits lasts
As long as the Fed’s $85 billion/month in QE lasts
As long as the government guarantees 95%+ of all mortgages lasts

Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 05:32:22

when do you think they will announce QE 4?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:50:55

After the next 20%+ drop in headline U.S. stock indexes would be a reasonable guess. (They won’t call it QE4, as QE3 was designed to be infinitely-lived and adjustable.)

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Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 05:36:27

Food stamps and Obamaphones are bankrupting this country!

Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 06:20:46

Entitlement Spending: 58% of the Federal Budget
Military Spending: 19% of the Federal Budget

The Government borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends.

You can do the math on your obama smart phone.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2011.png

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/7/government-borrows-46-cents-every-dollar-it-spends/

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Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:35:04

Entitlement Spending = Permanent Democrat Supermajority

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 06:57:13

Most of “entitlement spending” is SS and MC, received by old people who vote Republican and were the only age group that went for McCain in ‘08 and Romney in ‘12. People in their 30s and 40s bear the heaviest tax burden and yet voted overwhelmingly for Obama in both instances.

Carry on with the meme-ing though. Just wanted to tweak the thought process a little.

 
Comment by Darrell In Phoenix
2013-08-22 07:59:03

Careful Joe… people tend to get very unhappy when you use actual truth to counter their dogma.

2013 budget
Social Security $830 billion
Medicare $530 billion

Food stamps $82 billion

Obama Phones are not even part of the federal budget as they are administered by the cell phone companies using a fee paid through the cell phone bill.

Dollar for dollar, more government cash goes to Repub voters than Dem voters.

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 08:09:05

Obama phones also derive from a program started by Ronald Ray-gun.

 
Comment by spook
2013-08-22 08:54:53

It is my opinion that the “Obama phone” is the benefit received for forfeiting your right to bear arms because without a phone, you have no right to law enforcement protection since you have no way to call the police.

You can have a gun, you can have a phone, or you can have both; take your pick?

 
Comment by Darrell In Phoenix
2013-08-22 09:23:23

You do not need access to a cell phone plan, to be able to call 911.

When the telegraph was invented, the government provided cash to encourage telegraph companies to run lines into what would otherwise be unprofitable markets.

The point was that if you wanted the profitable New York to Chicago telegraph line, then you also had to run lines to NoWhere Indiana and FarmBelt Nebraska. It was the only way the farm towns were going to get lines.

With the creation of the electric light bulb, we got the rural electrification act to do the same thing. If you want the profits from wiring the cities, then you have to wire farm country too.

With the telephone, we got incentives to run lines to every house, even those that would have been unprofitable without incentives.

The ObamaPhone (actually initiated under Regan) continues this tradition of requiring service be provided to unprofitable markets. A fee is collected from current cell phone plan subscribers, to help poor people get phones too. The plan was not heavily advertised for 25 years because the money coming in was not enough to meet demand. Now, with even my 93 year old grandmother having a cell phone, the plan is having trouble finding enough poor people that want the bottom-of-the-line free phone with a few dozen minutes a month.

 
Comment by Darrell In Phoenix
2013-08-22 09:32:25

2 banana’s numbers “58% entitlement, 19% defense” must be counting VA and pensions to retired military as “entitlement”.

Defense major functional area is $650B, so some 17% of the total $3.8T in 2013.

If we add on $140B VA and $55B military pensions that is under Income Security, we’re at $845B or 22%.

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 11:43:11

More to the point, nannerz, as you’ve been told time and again, the budgets for Dept. of Energy, (which regulates atomic energetics worldwide) the State Department (which oversees our national and global intelligence networks), and the secretive NSA (and all its various permutations) are not accounted for in your charts.

If you include them in the “military” category where they certainly belong, spending in that sector easily exceeds 1T a year.

A lot of items can be hidden in that “other” category.

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 12:15:25

Anyone else notice that 2B runs away when people post facts?

He ran so far away yesterday when I was pwning him on the issue of a heavily-GOP NJ shore town where the taxes were high. Refused to admit that it’s because property “values” are through the roof bc of rentals and because shore towns have police budgets that would make major cities blush when you take into account the low # of year-round residents.

2B, you’re done here, reptile.

 
Comment by polly
2013-08-22 14:45:11

Also, the deficit for this year isn’t going to be close to $1 trillion. It is down by over a third from that mark.

 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 15:06:27

Anyone else notice that 2B runs away when people post facts?

What facts?

You postulate. You guess. You have no sources. You have no data. You just make it up.

Easy to be a liberal/progressive when you can just make up everything to fit you little world.

You will notice I posted where I get my info from.

The bottom line is that entitlement spend will soon take 100% of government spending. Military spending has been declining for 10 years.

The free sh*t army votes.

It is the only thing keeping democrat in power.

Until we end up like a bankrupted greece.

And STILL the democrat will say “Bush was worse” or “This program started under Reagan so you can’t blame us.”

The “leadership” and values of the Left.

The same as my four year old.

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 19:16:07

Nor can he read.

 
 
 
Comment by samk
Comment by samk
2013-08-22 07:02:38

I mean, “The housing bubble will never end!”

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-08-22 06:45:07

Am listening to NPR gloating about the housing recovery. Very end of the story: Some economists aren’t so bullish, and rising interest rates could kayo the whole thing.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:49:37

“Some economists aren’t so bullish, and rising interest rates could kayo the whole thing.”

There are always gloomsters amongst the ranks of economists. Economics some how had to earn its nickname of ‘The Dismal Science.’

But so far, all the evidence I have seen suggests the housing recovery continues to gather strength in the face of rising interest rates.

Comment by Strawberrypicker
2013-08-22 07:22:46

Economists, astrologers, weathermen.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2013-08-22 07:58:10

“all the evidence I have seen suggests the housing recovery continues to gather strength…”

The devil is in the details. The majority of house sales are now all cash. There are plenty of articles online supporting this claim. My guess is that these all cash sales are not going to be owner occupied. We see a rush by “investors” to convert everything that doesn’t move into rentals. When the water goes out on this investment fad, what is left of the actual housing market is a small fraction of the supposed picture. There is no fundamental demand for all the surplus houses we’ve built and turning a million of them into rentals will not prevent the looming crash.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 09:07:21

Any thoughts on for how much longer the housing bubble will last?

Is it even possible to guess? There may be no precedent for the government in charge of the world’s reserve currency to be all in on keeping a bubble inflated as long as possible.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:34:59

Especially when it’s all a lie in the first place.

http://m.vice.com/en_uk/read/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo

Or you’re having trouble keeping the whole thing from spinning out of control.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/22/nasdaq-suspends-all-stock-options-trading-after-technical-glitches-grind-system-to-a-halt/

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:33:28

How long?

How long can they fake it like everything else?

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:24:32

Asia stocks sink as Fed hints at stimulus phaseout
By PAMELA SAMPSON, AP Business Writer
8:35 p.m. Aug. 21, 2013

BANGKOK — Asian stock markets fell Thursday after the Federal Reserve made it known that its top officials were leaning toward phasing out its massive stimulus program.

The Fed released minutes of its July policy meeting Wednesday that showed most members want to slow down the pace of a massive bond-buying program. The U.S. central bank has been purchasing $85 billion of financial assets a month, which was intended to push down interest rates and spur borrowing and growth.

However, U.S. economic data in recent months has been strong enough to stir some Fed officials to call for a winding down of the asset purchases. That has sparked a sell-off in stock markets, which had been pumped up by the low interest rate policy, with some weaker Asian economies such as India and Indonesia particularly hard hit. India’s rupee continued to post fresh record lows, with the dollar buying more than 65 rupees Thursday.

Critics have said the program has raised the risk of igniting inflation by pumping up the money supply and also could create asset bubbles in assets such as stocks.

The Fed minutes didn’t indicate when the “tapering” of purchases might begin, leaving analysts to guess.

“Most analysts still expect tapering to start in September, or at the bare minimum a September announcement and implementation through October and November,” said Stan Shamu, market strategist of IG in Melbourne, Australia.

Japan’s Nikkei 225 index fell 0.2 percent to 13,403.59. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index dropped 0.7 percent to 21,667.34. South Korea’s Kospi lost 1 percent to 1,849.82. Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 shed 0.6 percent to 5,071.90.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:29:40

How are emerging markets reacting to the prospect of a QE3 taper?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:31:31

Emerging markets hit after Fed, data lifts European shares
By Richard Hubbard
LONDON | Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:03am EDT

(Reuters) - Emerging market currencies and shares fell on Thursday and the dollar rose as a spike in U.S. debt yields drove up borrowing costs globally, overwhelming the impact of buoyant economic reports from China and Europe.

However, with capital on the move back into developed markets, European shares and the euro bounced higher when the new business surveys confirmed expectations of strengthening recovery, lifting demand for banks and other financial stocks.

Driving the flight of funds were the minutes from the last U.S. Federal Reserve policy meeting, which left unchanged market expectations that the central bank would being to taper its asset-buying program as early as next month.

“It looks as if the minutes have done little to push back on market expectations for a Fed tapering,” said Ian Stannard, head of European foreign exchange strategy at Morgan Stanley.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:33:05

Breakingviews - Fed liquidity curbs will act as Asia’s detox plan
By Andy Mukherjee
SINGAPORE | Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:19pm IST

(Reuters Breakingviews) - The Federal Reserve is forcing Asia to kick its addiction to hot money. The prospect of higher U.S. interest rates had made the region’s dwindling trade surpluses look an increasingly dangerous habit. Though markets may be turbulent, pricier local money or cheaper currencies will improve the trade balance for most Asian countries.

Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:58:57

The prospect of higher U.S. interest rates had made the region’s dwindling trade surpluses look an increasingly dangerous habit.

What’s a net exporter to do when it’s top customer is broke?

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:35:53

MARKETS
Updated August 21, 2013, 7:30 p.m. ET
Mom-and-Pop Investors Bolt Emerging Markets
Since Start of June, $18.1 Billion Pulled From Emerging-Market Bond Funds
By ERIN MCCARTHY
CONNECT

Retail investors have led the summer stampede out of emerging-market stocks, bonds and currencies, pulling almost twice as much money as institutional investors such as insurance companies and pension funds.

The action highlights the outsize impact mom-and-pop investors can have on global markets at a time of low interest rates, disappointing investment returns and volatile market reactions to perceived shifts in central-bank policy.

Since the start of June, retail investors have pulled $18.1 billion from emerging-market bond funds, about one-third of the amount they had put in since the financial crisis, according to fund tracker EPFR Global. By comparison, institutional investors have pulled $9.3 billion, or about 10% of their postcrisis inflows. The same pattern can be seen in the stock market, where retail outflows continue even as institutional investors have largely stopped selling.

Investors large and small are getting out of emerging markets for mostly the same reason: the Federal Reserve is preparing to end easy-money policies that for four years have pumped cash into the financial system, inflating the value of stocks, bonds and currencies in the developing world. The Fed is poised to turn off the spigot even as slowing growth makes emerging markets more reliant on outside investment to pay for imports and finance debt.

Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 07:51:32

mom and pop will be shedding a lot of tears again I’m afraid. Too much jim cramer tin foil hat wearing.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 04:41:29

Beware of falling BRICs!

Aug. 20, 2013, 2:02 p.m. EDT
Rupee slumps to record low while dollar slips
Euro pushes above $1.34
By Saumya Vaishampayan and Michael Kitchen, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — The U.S. dollar fell against major rivals Tuesday but action was dominated by emerging-market currencies, with the Indian rupee tumbling to a fresh all-time low.

The dollar rose above the 64-rupee mark for the first time on Tuesday to reach a record high of 64.12 rupees intraday, according to FactSet. The U.S. unit (USDINR +0.3401%) bought 63.28 rupees in recent trade, up from 63.14 rupees late Monday in North America.

Some emerging-market nations with current-account deficits have seen their currencies, and often their stocks, suffer, with rising U.S. Treasury yields sparking large capital flows into the dollar. The rise in U.S. yields this year has been boosted by expectations that the Federal Reserve will begin to stem its monetary stimulus.

Comment by samk
2013-08-22 07:01:01

Aw, man. At first I thought that headline said SLURPEEs were at an all-time low. :(

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 09:14:03

Slurpees for rupees?

[Apu] An all syrup Squishy? It’s never been done!
[Bart] Make it happen, Apu…

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Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 05:19:27

They’re sub-merging markets, is what I was reading. But it’s all good, so who knows?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:46:31

With the rupee at an all-time low, it must be pretty tough for Indian households to make their customary dollar-denominated purchases of physical gold these days.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 05:19:43

The truth about the real size of the US national debt
Pravda | 08/22/2013 | Yuri Skadanov

Everyone got used to the largest officially announced U.S. national debt of 16 trillion dollars. Moreover, despite the dire predictions, the global economy seems to be more or less stable, and recently liberal media have been happily reporting GDP growth in the United States and the European Union. However, it is not all that great.

Let’s start with statistics. A number of researchers have conducted studies that indicate that the official U.S. statistics in nearly all areas - from unemployment to price fluctuations - is blatantly distorted and paints a positive picture that is very different from the reality.

The work of Professor James Hamilton of the University of Economics, California who analyzed the size of the public debt of the United States particularly stands out. According to official data since 2008, when the global economic crisis commenced, the U.S. national debt has increased from 5 to 16.4 trillion dollars. The debt is repaid by ordinary taxpayers who pay approximately $220 billion annually in interest alone.

This huge sum emerged due to the fact that in an effort to get out of the crisis, the Federal Reserve in coordination with the U.S. authorities pumped money into the economy and bought a lot of assets. Accordingly, the amount of state debt increased every year, and the interest on the debt service alone by 2021 will exceed the costs of defense spending.

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:39:58

So when a politician says “vote for me and I’ll cut all your free sh*t” to the Free Sh*t Army, do you think they will vote for him?

Free Sh*t Army = Permanent Democrat Supermajority

Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:43:14

I prefer the term “Free Lunch Party”. No need for asterisks & you won’t shock your maiden aunt or anyone with sensitive ears or eyes. Neither term is PC, though.

Comment by (Neo-) Jetfixr
2013-08-22 09:02:59

Read the article.

“….pumped money into the economy, and bought a lot of assets.”

(At a premium to their actual value, I might add).

The commanders of the “FSA” are HQ’d on Wall Street.

Has anyone actually SEEN an Obamaphone?

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Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:37:41

Seen one? Of course I have!

I was standing in line at ***** and the lady in front me was talking on one while using food stamps to buy ***** which she put in the back her ***** and drove away.

Hasn’t EVERYONE?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 06:44:58

“University of Economics, California”

Eta nyeh pravda. On rabotayet v University of California, San Diego.

 
Comment by samk
2013-08-22 06:45:45

Not disagreeing, but “is blatantly distorted and paints a positive picture that is very different from the reality” coming from Pravda made me laugh.

 
Comment by Puggs
2013-08-22 16:38:02

National debt was 9.6 trillion in 2008.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:06:09

Who needs wages when you’ve got equity?

Denver Post - Wage gains missing for most U.S. workers since 2000:

“Workers in the United States and Colorado have suffered a decade of stagnant wages despite continued productivity gains in the economy, according to a report Wednesday from the Economic Policy Institute.

Even though worker productivity has increased 25 percent since 2000, the median weekly wage, after adjusting for inflation, is flat. In Colorado, the inflation-adjusted median hourly wage is down 1.7 percent over that period”

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23909483?source=bb

Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:41:27

It may be flat in Colorado, but across the nation it’s dropped 7% since 2008.

But hey, you have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

Maybe time in financial Siberia change your mind, yes?

Asking for 25% raise because your productivity increased by 25% is just durty liberal Marxism!

 
 
Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 06:07:50

I was talking to one of my buddies about the “bored teenagers” who get ansty especially during the summer months, and he reminded me of the old Fresh Air Fund tv commercials I used to see when I wuz a pup. Wow, was that ever a blast from the past!

The point was, however, that we’re being terribly unfair and wasting these “teenagers” by leaving them to languish in their neighborhoods. He proposes to send them to open air camps in places like the Hamptons and Martha’s Vineyard for a couple of weeks each summer to clean up trash and cull the elite herds, so to speak, and meanwhile enjoy the beaches and green spaces and good food.

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Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:10:51

Denver Post - Fort Collins, Boulder lead real-estate recovery; Colorado Springs lagging:

“In Fort Collins, home prices have increased 21 percent from their lowest point, while in Boulder prices have increased 40 percent from their trough. The U.S. average is 19 percent”

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_23890624

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 09:16:55

Boulder prices have increased 40 percent from their trough

Hah hah…”trough”. Smallest trough I’ve ever seen. The government interference in the market kicked in before the first big wave even made it to Boulder.

Comment by rms
2013-08-22 23:29:36

“Hah hah…”trough”. Smallest trough I’ve ever seen. The government interference in the market kicked in before the first big wave even made it to Boulder.”

+1 Ditto for San Luis Obispo, CA and Scottsdale, AZ.

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 06:17:26

“No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”
–Barack Obama, June 15, 2009

“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”
–Barack Obama, Aug 11, 2009

“Ha ha. Fooled ya.”
–Obamacare Summer 2013

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:28:18

Obamacare = corporate welfare for insurance companies.

Nationalized single payer health care = better results at half the costs.

Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:37:52

better results at half the costs
The matter what the results (better/same/worse), some more-or-less sympathetic victims will be dredged up to complain about how unfairly they were treated and how more money spent on them will restore justice, freedom and the American way.
Count on it.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:44:13

Exactly.

MSM media sole purpose in life in stir the crap, not offer real news.

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Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 06:28:34

they will get all your stuff before you leave this earth.

Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:34:57

they will get all your stuff before you leave this earth.
Nothing new about that. It is the human condition.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:45:39

“they will get all your stuff before you leave this earth.”

Can I have your stereo? :lol:

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 06:47:12

Is Delta bracing employees for an ObamaCare shock?
Human Events | August 22, 2013 | John Hayward

Erick Erickson of RedState has a radio show in Atlanta, which is also the hub for Delta Airlines. Erick says he’s been getting calls from Delta employees about a memo, originally sent from Delta management to the Obama Administration in June, which the company is now beginning to circulate among employees. Coupled with warnings that “their healthcare will be radically changed because of ObamaCare,” this might be the first step in dropping the kind of Affordable Care Act bomb that so many other companies have been forced to detonate on their employees, most recently United Parcel Service.

Erickson calls the letter “stunning:”

According to Delta, in 2014 Obamacare will cost the company at least $38 million in direct costs and that is only the beginning. With added medical inflation, Delta claims “the cost of providing health care to our employees will increase by nearly $100,000,000 next year.” A $100 million increase thanks in large part to Obamacare and ancillary cost increases derived therefrom.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:47:04

Delta is lying out of their wazoo.

 
 
 
Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:23:34

The obesity era: As the American people got fatter, so did marmosets, vervet monkeys and mice. The problem may be bigger than any of us

For the first time in human history, overweight people outnumber the underfed, and obesity is widespread in wealthy and poor nations alike. The diseases that obesity makes more likely — diabetes, heart ailments, strokes, kidney failure — are rising fast across the world, and the World Health Organisation predicts that they will be the leading causes of death in all countries, even the poorest, within a couple of years. What’s more, the long-term illnesses of the overweight are far more expensive to treat than the infections and accidents for which modern health systems were designed. Obesity threatens individuals with long twilight years of sickness, and health-care systems with bankruptcy.

And so the authorities tell us, ever more loudly, that we are fat — disgustingly, world-threateningly fat. We must take ourselves in hand and address our weakness. After all, it’s obvious who is to blame for this frightening global blanket of lipids: it’s us, choosing over and over again, billions of times a day, to eat too much and exercise too little. What else could it be?…

Moral panic about the depravity of the heavy has seeped into many aspects of life, confusing even the erudite. Earlier this month, for example, the American evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller expressed the zeitgeist in this tweet: ‘Dear obese PhD applicants: if you don’t have the willpower to stop eating carbs, you won’t have the willpower to do a dissertation. #truth….

Hand-in-glove with the authorities that promote self-scrutiny are the businesses that sell it…

A report by the consulting firm McKinsey & Co predicted in May 2012 that ‘health and wellness’ would soon become a trillion-dollar global industry. ‘Obesity is expensive in terms of health-care costs,’ it said before adding, with a consultantly chuckle, ‘dealing with it is also a big, fat market.’…

It is undoubtedly true that societies are spending vast amounts of time and money on [the idea that excess body weight and obesity result from individual choices]. It is also true that the masters of the universe in business and government seem attracted to it, perhaps because [they please themselves in believing that what they imagine is their] stern self-discipline [rather than luck or connections] is how many of them attained their status. What we don’t know is whether the theory is actually correct.

…scientists who study the biochemistry of fat and the epidemiologists who track weight trends are not nearly as unanimous as Bloomberg makes out. In fact, many researchers believe that personal gluttony and laziness cannot be the entire explanation for humanity’s global weight gain. Which means, of course, that they think at least some of the official focus on personal conduct is a waste of time and money. [emphasis added] As Richard L Atkinson, Emeritus Professor of Medicine and Nutritional Sciences at the University of Wisconsin and editor of the International Journal of Obesity, put it in 2005: ‘The received wisdom previous belief of many lay people and health professionals that obesity is simply the result of a lack of willpower and an inability to discipline eating habits is no longer defensible.’

Consider, for example, this troublesome fact, reported in 2010 by the biostatistician David B Allison and his co-authors at the University of Alabama in Birmingham: over the past 20 years or more, as the American people were getting fatter, so were America’s marmosets. As were laboratory macaques, chimpanzees, vervet monkeys and mice, as well as domestic dogs, domestic cats, and domestic and feral rats from both rural and urban areas. In fact, the researchers examined records on those eight species and found that average weight for every one had increased.

It isn’t hard to imagine that people who are eating more themselves are giving more to their spoiled pets, or leaving sweeter, fattier garbage for street cats and rodents. But such results don’t explain why the weight gain is also occurring in species that human beings don’t pamper, such as animals in labs, whose diets are strictly controlled. In fact, lab animals’ lives are so precisely watched and measured that the researchers can rule out accidental human influence: records show those creatures gained weight over decades without any significant change in their diet or activities. [emphasis added] Obviously, if animals are getting heavier along with us, it can’t just be that they’re eating more Snickers bars and driving to work most days. On the contrary, the trend suggests some widely shared cause, beyond the control of individuals, which is contributing to obesity across many species.

To make sense of all the data and all the findings, the popular, simple-minded thermodynamic theory must appeal to a multitude of indirect effects. Some researchers are coming to believe that ‘all calories are not equal.’ Some foods alter the biochemistry of fat storing and fat burning. This is a paradigm shift. If a food’s chemistry tilts you toward weight gain, then the problem may be whether you consume it at all, rather than how much you consume.

There are factors other than food that influence the body’s fat metabolism. Poor sleep and stress are known to change the workings of leptin, a hormone that tells the body it has had enough to eat. Infective agents, industrial chemicals, artificial lighting, air-conditioning and heating are all being researching as causes of obesity. “The line of reasoning is not that stress causes you to eat more, but rather that it causes you to gain weight by directly altering the activities of your cells. If some or all of these factors are indeed contributing to the worldwide fattening trend, then the thermodynamic model is wrong.”

E.g.: “A study by Laura Fonken and colleagues at the Ohio State University in Columbus, published in 2010 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reported that mice exposed to extra light (experiencing either no dark at all or a sort of semidarkness instead of total night) put on nearly 50 per cent more weight than mice fed the same diet who lived on a normal night-day cycle of alternating light and dark”

E.g.: “A virus called Ad-36, known for causing eye and respiratory infections in people, also has the curious property of causing weight gain in chickens, rats, mice and monkeys. Of course, it would be unethical to test for this effect on humans, but it is now known that antibodies to the virus are found in a much higher percentage of obese people than in people of normal weight.”

Jonathan C. K. Wells makes a “claim that individual choice drives worldwide weight gain is an illusion — like the illusion that individuals can captain their fates independent of history. In reality, Tolstoy wrote at the end of War and Peace (1869), we are moved by social forces we do not perceive, just as the Earth moves through space, driven by physical forces we do not feel. Such is the tenor of Wells’s explanation for modern obesity. Its root cause, he proposed last year in the American Journal of Human Biology, is nothing less than the history of capitalism.”

If … there is more to obesity than simple thermodynamics, some of the billions spent on individual-centred policies and products may be being wasted….Today’s priests of obesity prevention proclaim with confidence and authority that they have the answer. So did Bruno Bettelheim in the 1950s, when he blamed autism on mothers with cold personalities. So, for that matter, did the clerics of 18th-century Lisbon, who blamed earthquakes on people’s sinful ways. History is not kind to authorities whose mistaken dogmas cause unnecessary suffering and pointless effort, while ignoring the real causes of trouble. And the history of the obesity era has yet to be written.

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:32:42

It’s nice living in the state with the lowest obesity rate in the country. With our 300 days of sunshine a year, people actually go outside and exercise. When I get off a plane in the Midwest or South, everyone is obese.

Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:41:01

With our 300 days of sunshine a year, people actually go outside and exercise.
You have not read the article.

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:54:21

“focus on personal conduct is a waste of time”

“inability to discipline eating habits is no longer defensible”

BS

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Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:55:12

“focus on personal conduct is a waste of time”

“inability to discipline eating habits is no longer defensible”

BS

BS!

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 11:57:24

Agreed. Over the last decades, animal feeds have changed along with human feeds to include more modified corn products and genetically-rejiggered foodstuffs. The “green revolution” coincides perfectly with the advent of obesity in previously unafflicted populations. Eat less, weigh less.

The author of this article sounds fat.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2013-08-22 19:48:36

How are the lab rats getting fatter if they’re eating the same amount of calories as they used to? HFCS in their feed?

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 23:10:40

There is evidence that certain genetically modified grain and corn products are metabolized differently than conventional ones– converted to fat directly, then to glucose.

But obviously there are more calories being consumed than are needed.

 
 
 
Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:54:12

Colorado is so healthy, people have to move out of state in order to
die.

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 07:26:26

Good point, but some of this is demographics, most of the migration to CO is educated peeps from CA and the Northeast. who want to cop that good weather and a tech jerb. Our refuse gets sent to the South (FL, GA, NC usually) or to Las Vegas/Houston/Phoenix. Not a shocker, those destinations have high %s of landwhales.

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 07:44:29

North Carolina, at least the western part, is changing in that respect. Lots of folks seeking alternatives to the PNW and finding the mountain areas of NC are a good fit. These are more intellectual and active folks, into hiking, kayaking and organic and such. Their big lament is that the biking (ten speed, not Harley) isn’t so great. But they’ll make it work. Although recent arrivals from the PNW are freaked out by the amount of rain in the Western North Carolina area. It’s true, the area has been inundated this spring/summer and it just keeps on. They’re getting more rain than Seattle.

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Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 07:47:30

eustace conway is a legend in the n carolina hills?

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 07:56:50

Well yeah, Asheville does seem like it’s getting more hispter-y. Perhaps Ashelandia will be the sequel to Portlandia.

 
Comment by (Neo-) Jetfixr
2013-08-22 09:07:42

On my drives back-forth between Denver and Grand Junction last week, I about starved. Not a single fast-food joint near the highway on the whole stretch.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 09:48:37

If you exit at Eagle the Eagle Diner works for me or there is fast food in the gas stations. Because of the resorts at a lot of the exits, you sometimes have to get a few block off the interstate to find what you’re looking for. Otherwise the stuff built into the gas stations is about all there is.

 
Comment by (Neo-) Jetfixr
2013-08-22 11:48:52

I had a plane to catch, and just wanted to duck off of I-70 to grab something. Even I won’t stoop low enough to buy gas station food….. :)

It does revalidate my view that high income areas have more/better food options that the Wretched Refuse. Kinda hard to justify a $15 breakfast, when you are taking home $12/hour at two part-time jobs.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 12:20:06

Well…there are actually fast food franchises in the bigger gas stations…it’s not just a 7-11 hotdog.

 
Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 23:47:42

So buy a banana and a small carton of yogurt at the gas station store. Or a pack of almonds. Edible foodstuffs for less than $5, available nationwide.

 
 
 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 07:32:58

In college I was on a flight from NYC to Barcelona and some businessdoods were behind me. I think they worked for Santander and they had been at B of A in Charlotte. Anyway, they were discussing the landbeasts they way roaming Charlotte, it was an A+ conversation. It’s pretty hard to find a fat woman in Barcelona under age ~50 - not even a pudgy one. And these guys had been in the American South for a couple of days. Big culture shock for them.

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 09:17:49

LOL, during the Democratic National Convention, there were outraged Tweets coming from the likes of Tucker Carlson and some other neo-con journalists regarding the accomodations in Charlotte that had been assigned to them. Apparently on the edge of the ghetto area. There were some streetview screen shots provided. WOOF! Definitely areas where you wouldn’t want to go out at night. Or even during the day, for that matter.

The shirtless “teens” wearing their pants at half-mast didn’t look porky, though. They looked thin and mean. I’d hate to own a belt shop in those areas.

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Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 12:20:11

People like to romanticize the South and Midwest, but it is mostly a steaming dump. 2B’s pet project seems to be that people are stupid not to move away from NYC when they could live for half the price in NC. Of course, they’d earn alot (sic) less and their kids would be in NC public schools instead of NJ/CT/LI public schools.

 
 
 
 
Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:39:44

I personally recall the crazy overemphasis on acid-the sole cause of-stomach-ulcers, a theory popular 40 years ago. Now debunked, but after massive misdirection of resources.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-08-22 06:46:13

Corn.

Only now it is laced with roundup.

The Monarch Butterfly migration is now halted at the cornbelt.

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 07:37:39

Wow, thanks for the perspective. I didn’t even think about that.

 
Comment by rms
2013-08-23 00:05:49

Only now it is laced with roundup.

Not roundup, rodeo herbicide.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:50:24

The problem may be bigger than any of us

rim shot!

 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:50:45

Obesity is simple: fat is not made from thin damn air.

If you gain weight, you eat less or you gain more weight.

Period.

It is not effing rocket surgery!

 
Comment by salinasron
2013-08-22 12:55:58

Thanks for posting, it is very timely and something that Obamacare will solve. The problem with the article is that there are too many variables that need to be sorted out such as body type (ecto, mess, endomorph), medical conditions, genetics, etc. That said, we do know that exercise and diet can keep one from being attaining a level of morbid obesity and once one passes a certain level of obesity adverse medical conditions kick in to keep the weight on.
When I came back to the US in the sixties after 26 months of living in the far east I was appalled at how fat Americans were and it’s just gotten worse. Fat people becoming prisoner’s of war don’t leave fat, morbidly obese people on the tv “the biggest loser” with a high level of diet and exercise are able to lose the weight so saying diet and exercise aren’t the biggest part of the problem is just cutting people another excuse not to be responsible.
I personally see Obamacare as a death sentence where people will just be handed out more meds to cover their symptoms while they obtain less and less mobility until they check out. My personal health plan is to exercise and eat healthy while trying to prolong my entrance into the health care system.
so far so good.

 
Comment by Dale
2013-08-22 13:37:05

“mice exposed to extra light (experiencing either no dark at all or a sort of semidarkness instead of total night) put on nearly 50 per cent more weight than mice fed the same diet who lived on a normal night-day cycle of alternating light and dark”

Mice are nocturnal. Keep them in light and they are less active.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:24:57

Wall Street Journal - On the Killing Floor, Clues to the Impact of Immigration on Jobs:

“Greeley, Colo.– Here on the outskirts of town sits a sprawling meatpacking plant where more than 3,000 workers slaughter and process thousands of cows a week — and where English is hardly the only language spoken inside. Indeed, the union handbook is printed in English, Spanish, Burmese and Somali.

Since the meatpacking plant was built in Greeley in the 1950s, the northeastern Colorado city has lured immigrants. The population blossomed to more than 90,000 in 2010, 36% of whom were Hispanic, most of them from Mexico. Twenty years earlier, the town had 60,500 residents, 20% of them Hispanic.

Now the area has about 2,000 refugees, too — the “new Mexicans,” as some in the meatpacking business called them. Asad Abdi, a refugee who got his start at the meatpacking plant in Greeley, opened a Global Refugee Center in 2008 to help immigrants learn English, find housing and jobs and apply for government benefits.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324251504578580041922193264.html

Comment by tresho
2013-08-22 06:33:56

The high costs of cheap food.

 
Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 06:35:54

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

A very valuable website that tracks the “refugee” business.

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:45:28

Tom Petty was right when he said “You don’t have to live like a refugee”

After the Shamnesty passes and 12 million illegals become USA citizens, 50 million more will become USA citizens thanks to Teddy Kennedy’s family reunification “chain migration” laws, with free Obamaphones and school bekfusses for all!

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 06:52:23

Actually, I think there will be a Shamnasty compromise. The illegals will be “legalized” without the burdens of citizenship. This will give the pubes the cover they want, while delaying the destruction of the party somewhat.

It’s really gonna suck big time.

I will never forgive, I will never forget.

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Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:49:05

n 2010, 36% of whom were Hispanic, most of them from Mexico.

My son attends the university in Greeley. They call the Walmart that is closer to campus “WalMartinez” because of its clientele.

Compared to neighboring Windsor, Loveland and Ft. Collins, Greeley is a high crime cesspool. You couldn’t pay me to live there.

Also, Greeley is the largest population center in the group of counties that are threatening to secede from the state and form a new one. I guess Greeley would be the state capital!

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 11:11:27

“They call the Walmart that is closer to campus “WalMartinez” because of its clientele.”

OK, now that’s just too funny right there.

There’s a Walmartinez not far from me, too, although like in Greeley, they’re mixing it up a little bit now, experimenting with other immigrant groups and folks “re-located” from the inner areas of Tampa and St. Pete, after co-opting swaths of public housing.

New motto: Re-Locate with Section 8!

Oh, wow, I almost forgot, I just discovered a RE agency called “Go Section 8″. http://www.gosection8.com/ Apparently it has a large presence around here, I had no idea. It’s in other parts of the country as well.

 
Comment by (Neo-) Jetfixr
2013-08-22 11:56:27

There are a bunch of towns like Greeley out here in Flyover.

A legacy of the meatpacker’s union busting tactics. Now, everybody gets to live/pay for the collateral damage…..another indirect subsidy to corporations.

Almost enough to turn me into a vegetarian.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:46:03

Are these legal immigrants?

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 06:41:48

Suicide Pact: How to cripple your state in five easy steps.
National Review | 08/22/2013 | Kevin D. Williamson

1. Make work expensive. The nine states with the highest personal-income-tax rates lost $100 billion in AGI from 1995 to 2010. The nine states without any personal-income tax gained $146 billion. In all, some $2 trillion has moved between the states during the years for which Brown has data, and the pattern consistently favors low-tax jurisdictions.

These trends also hold true within states. It is no surprise that New York County (Manhattan) has lost AGI to nearby suburban areas such as Westchester County, N.Y., and Fairfield County, Conn., or that Philadelphia, which imposes a city income tax, has lost people and income to nearby suburban counties. But that doesn’t mean that these states are keeping it in the family: New York State has lost $68 billion in AGI, with Florida claiming the biggest piece and North Carolina in the No. 4 spot. Pennsylvania is getting beat out by (in order of magnitude) Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and Arizona.

2. Attack lifetime savings. Florida is a good place to live and a great place to die. Its lack of a personal income tax is attractive, and so is its lack of an estate tax. By way of contrast, Minnesota imposes a significant estate tax, one that is more rapacious than the federal levy: Whereas the federal tax excludes $5.25 million per person, Minnesota excludes only $1 million. And if you try to give away some of your assets before you kick off, Minnesota imposes its own gift tax, too, at 10 percent. Minnesota lost nearly $4 billion in AGI from 1992, with the largest amounts going to Florida, Arizona, Wisconsin (which recently eliminated its estate tax), Texas, and Colorado.

3. Run up your state’s long-term liabilities. That means fat pensions for unionized state employees funded mostly by hopes and dreams and fairy dust. The states with the most serious unfunded-liability problems are basically ebola-infected hot zones for mobile capital and income. People in Detroit have known for a long time that the city’s 100,000 or so creditors were eventually going to come around looking to get paid, and nobody wanted to hang around to get stuck with the bill, which is one of the reasons why Wayne County has lost $9.57 billion in AGI. Michigan as a whole has lost $16.8 billion, with the largest share of it going to — stop me if this sounds familiar — Florida, Arizona, and Texas. Illinois is down $29.3 billion, and California is down a shocking $45.3 billion, with its incompetent leaders due thank-you notes from Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Texas, and Washington. Within California, Los Angeles County — the Detroit of the West Coast — is down $36.4 billion.

4. Tax fanciful things. Maryland is the innovation leader here, with the ingenious leadership of Governor Martin O’Malley having decided to levy a tax on rain. Already down $7 billion in AGI largely ceded to Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia, Maryland has declared war on economic development, with its rain tax levying charges on every square inch of impervious surface — rooftops, parking lots, driveways — that will produce runoff in the event of rain. It’s harder to take business away from Maryland, because so much of its economy is based on its proximity to the hog trough in Washington, D.C., but it lost out to Virginia in its bid to secure the world headquarters for Northrop Grumman in 2010, and Virginia has made a play for Maryland’s biggest business, Lockheed Martin.

5. Don’t just be crazy — be California crazy. California is running out of things in the present to tax, and its future does not look terribly bright, so it has resorted to taxing the past. A combination of judicial shenanigans and legislative incompetence resulted in California’s reneging on tax incentives that had been offered to some businesses — and then demanding the retroactive payment of taxes for which businesses had never been legally liable. Small-business owners, some of whom had sold their businesses years ago, suddenly got demands for taxes running well into the six figures. And, California being California, it had the gall to charge those businesses interest on taxes they had never owed. Jim Fowler, a software entrepreneur, was hit with a bill for more than $600,000. “I think that’s the part that’s really going to ruin trust in the state of California,” he said. “You can’t do this to entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs will stop coming here.”

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 06:48:29

“Maryland’s biggest business, Lockheed Martin”

That’s the real Free Sh*t Army right there.

Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 07:26:23

Lockheed Martin has laid of 20,000 people over the last 3 years.

Any other FSA been downsizing?

Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:38:31

I know a guy who worked at Lockheed. He says that the F-35 fiasco is what’s driving the layoffs.

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Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:42:04

“I think that’s the part that’s really going to ruin trust in the state of California,” he said. “You can’t do this to entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs will stop coming here.”

FWIW, Colorado is low tax, thanks to TABOR. That said, the entrepreneurs aren’t fleeing Silly Valley to set up shop in the Front Range. They complain about the taxes, they have for decades, but they are still there. Maybe it’s because RWD Porsche’s suck in the snow.

Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 12:14:56

Most likely it’s because cold weather separates the adults from the children in adult bodies.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:54:18

Why all the steps? Just do one thing: vote GOP across the board and then ignore the fact that your state now has more people on welfare than blue states.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 07:05:20

Wall Street Journal - Bradley Manning Seeks Gender Change:

“Pfc. Bradley Manning said Thursday that he wants to live his life as a woman and be known as Chelsea Manning as he begins a 35-year prison term for leaking information to Wikileaks.

Less than 24 hours after being sentenced for being the source of one of the biggest classified leaks in U.S. history, Pfc. Manning said he wants to begin hormone therapy and be known by a new name.

“As I transition to the next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me,” he said in a statement made on NBC’s “Today Show” by his attorney, David Coombs. “I am Chelsea Manning.”

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 07:27:21

“I am Chelsea Manning.”

We are all Chelsea Manning. Justice for Chelsea.

Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 12:08:07

I’d rather spend thirty-five years behind the bars of a military prison as a Chelsea than as a Bradley.

Manning’s statement to President Obama:

The decisions that I made in 2010 were made out of a concern for my country and the world that we live in. Since the tragic events of 9/11, our country has been at war. We’ve been at war with an enemy that chooses not to meet us on any traditional battlefield, and due to this fact we’ve had to alter our methods of combating the risks posed to us and our way of life.

I initially agreed with these methods and chose to volunteer to help defend my country. It was not until I was in Iraq and reading secret military reports on a daily basis that I started to question the morality of what we were doing.

It was at this time I realized that (in) our efforts to meet the risk posed to us by the enemy, we have forgotten our humanity.

We consciously elected to devalue human life both in Iraq and Afghanistan. When we engaged those that we perceived were the enemy, we sometimes killed innocent civilians. Whenever we killed innocent civilians, instead of accepting responsibility for our conduct, we elected to hide behind the veil of national security and classified information in order to avoid any public accountability.

In our zeal to kill the enemy, we internally debated the definition of torture. We held individuals at Guantanamo for years without due process. We inexplicably turned a blind eye to torture and executions by the Iraqi government. And we stomached countless other acts in the name of our war on terror.

Patriotism is often the cry extolled when morally questionable acts are advocated by those in power. When these cries of patriotism drown out any logically based dissension, it is usually the American soldier that is given the order to carry out some ill-conceived mission.

Our nation has had similar dark moments for the virtues of democracy — the Trail of Tears, the Dred Scott decision, McCarthyism, and the Japanese-American internment camps — to mention a few. I am confident that many of the actions since 9/11 will one day be viewed in a similar light.

As the late Howard Zinn once said, “There is not a flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.”

I understand that my actions violated the law; I regret if my actions hurt anyone or harmed the United States. It was never my intent to hurt anyone. I only wanted to help people. When I chose to disclose classified information, I did so out of a love for my country and a sense of duty to others.

If you deny my request for a pardon, I will serve my time knowing that sometimes you have to pay a heavy price to live in a free society.

I will gladly pay that price if it means we could have a country that is truly conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all women and men are created equal.

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 12:27:50

Whenever we killed innocent civilians, instead of accepting responsibility for our conduct, we elected to hide behind the veil of national security and classified information in order to avoid any public accountability.

Welcome to the army, private. It’s always easier to stamp than justify. So get to stampin’…

Somebody here was saying Snowden made sense, but Manning was just a screwup. If Manning wrote the full message all by himself then I think he is being underestimated, even if he’s distorting his true motives to appear more sympathetic.

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Comment by ahansen
2013-08-22 15:25:24

Both Manning and Snowden are thoughtful and articulate young patriots. Were they simply venal thugs looking for publicity and a payday, or wild-eyed radicals with an ideological agenda, I certainly would have questioned their motives as well as their methodologies.

But given the extraordinary circumstances our country is facing and the seeming Gordian Knot we must unravel, I believe they acted not only in good conscience but in the only way possible, and I applaud them both as American heroes.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 07:10:26

U.S. Home Sales Hit 5.39M in July, Highest Since ’09

Read more: http://business.time.com/2013/08/21/u-s-home-sales-hit-5-39m-in-july-highest-since-09/#ixzz2chto1cefhttp://business.time.com/2013/08/21/u-s-home-sales-hit-5-39m-in-july-highest-since-09/

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U.S. sales of previously occupied homes surged in July to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 5.39 million, approaching a healthy level for the first time since November 2009. The spike in sales shows housing remains a driving force for the economy even as mortgage rates rise.

The National Association of Realtors said Wednesday that sales jumped 6.5 percent last month from a 5.06 million pace in June. They have risen 17.2 percent over the past 12 months ago.

Sales have now stayed above an annual pace of 5 million for three straight months. The last time that happened was in 2007. And sales are well above the 3.45 million pace hit in July 2010, the low point after the housing bubble burst.

Read more: http://business.time.com/2013/08/21/u-s-home-sales-hit-5-39m-in-july-highest-since-09/#ixzz2chtrxhhK

Comment by Arizona Slim
2013-08-22 07:43:29

Sales have now stayed above an annual pace of 5 million for three straight months. The last time that happened was in 2007.

The bubble was running low on air by that time.

Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 08:10:45

Wasn’t implying I agree with it. I posted it for the NAR cheerleading and the fact that news orgs will just report “NAR says [insert #s]“. Things hit the fan 5 yrs ago, already people forget or don’t care. Laughable.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:35:24

The bubble was running low on air by that time.

Bubble 2.0 isn’t as grand as 1.0. During the peak of 1.0, over 1000 new houses per year were popping up in my little burg. Now the number is about 300 and that looks as good as it’s going to get.

Comment by rms
2013-08-23 00:20:51

“Bubble 2.0 isn’t as grand as 1.0.”

+1 I miss the spinner wheels.

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Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:41:05

“U.S. sales of previously occupied homes …”

Why would this analysis be limited only to previously occupied homes? What would be the point in excluding vacant homes from the equation?

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:49:24

Here is a link that shows US housing inventory over the past two years. These data conflict sharply with NAR data. NAR data exclude REOs. Apparently, it is not mathematically correct to exclude REOs. Their secondary effect on the market is not enough to compensate for their total exclusion from the data. When you exclude a gigantic percentage of transactions from the data, you end up with misleading statistics.

h t t p : / / ycharts (dawt) com / indicators/us_existing_home_inventory

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:56:42

You know, this is weird. This website lists NAR as its source, but the actual NAR website (which only has a table, not a graph) says that inventory is down, not up. Did this website pull its data from some other NAR database, perhaps one that is not public, that actually includes REO and all other inventory? It doesn’t say. In any case, if this website got its data from NAR, then NAR must know that inventory is up.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2013-08-22 19:14:49

“data from NAR”

Oxymoron of the day. They already admit that they make their data up.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-08-22 20:00:24

NAR cannot be trusted.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 07:10:33

Hope and Change

Wall Street Journal - Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe Sworn In for Another Five Years:

“After demolishing his rival and surviving a court challenge to his re-election, 89-year-old Robert Mugabe was sworn in as president of Zimbabwe on Thursday, vowing to fulfill a campaign promise of transferring more corporate wealth to the black citizens of the southern African nation.”

Mugabephones for all!

Forward

Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 07:42:07

Can you cop an EBT card and put your student loans in PAYE in Zimbabwe too?

Hopefully not, I want to hope ARE COUNTRY is still more advanced!

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:33:15

Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe Sworn In for Another Five Years

Will he live to the end of his term? And what happens when (not if) he keels over? Will there be an orderly transition to the next caudillo, or will it be a free for all civil war?

Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 10:16:23

That’s when Obama will just make Zimbabwe the 51st state.

You saw the article said “transfer corporate wealth to black people”

That’s what Obama wants. It’s true I read about it on Breitbart.

Forward

 
Comment by prayer walker
2013-08-22 10:39:45

His white older VP has to be pushing 123.

 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-08-22 07:24:27

Better not tell Obama about this or he’ll go there and eat them all!

“As many as 50,000 stray dogs roam the streets and vacant homes of bankrupt Detroit, replacing residents, menacing humans who remain and overwhelming the city’s ability to find them homes or peaceful deaths.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-21/abandoned-dogs-roam-detroit-in-packs-as-humans-dwindle.html

Forward

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 10:02:09

As they continue to descend back into frontier, I predict a .22LR solution just like old timey frontiersman would have done. Only this time it might be technically illegal due to old outdated laws still on the books from back when it was a population center. No bounty on ears this time…

Comment by (Neo-) Jetfixr
2013-08-22 12:02:51

A buddy had a neighbor with a “problem” Rottweiler. Got out of the neighbor’s back yard and attacked him when he got home from working second shift one night.

This was thirty years ago, and poochie turned up MIA the next morning. Courtesy of the S&W “.44 Special” solution.

Some people just want to make problems more difficult than they need to be……….

 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-08-22 08:20:54

Feeble Middle Class “Recovery,” But House Prices Continue To Rise
Confounded Interest | 08/222013 | Anthony B. Sanders

It has been a tough recovery for Americans, particularly for the middle class.

Median household income is down 4.4% since the end of the recession in June 2009.

Initial jobless claims rose to 336,000 in the most recent reading. And is above the level when interest rates started rising on May 1st.

Unemployment in the 16-19 year old segment is a Greek-like 23.70%, putting a crimp in the savings ability of America’s youth.

And the American Healthcare Act imposes a massive increase in healthcare costs on young men.

7 out of 10 jobs created since January 2009 have been part-time jobs, not full-time jobs.

The FHFA Purchase only index rose 0.7% in June, despite rising mortgage rates. Thank investors for that increase!

So you can now see why Wells Fargo is laying off so many people in the loan production group.

 
Comment by Darrell In Phoenix
2013-08-22 09:05:47

Wells Fargo said the layoffs were due to falling refi’s. As rates fell, owners refi’ed to get lower rates. With rates heading up, the money saving refi’s have fell off a cliff.

My wife and I would have refi’ed if there were a 10 year mortgage. We didn’t want to reset the life of our mortgage back to 15 years.

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:24:27

You could just make higher payments, therefore magically transforming your 15-year mortgage into a 10-year one.

Well, I guess new mortages aren’t as prevalent as refinances now, so there must not be that many new mortgages.

 
Comment by HBB_Rocks
2013-08-22 11:33:10

Citibank offers a 10 year mortgage, or at least did when we refi’d a few months ago.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-08-22 09:29:19

So you can now see why Wells Fargo is laying off so many people in the loan production group.

Every cloud has a sliver lining.

Comment by the golden boy
2013-08-22 16:32:05

Just like 07/08, the loan people are the first to go.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 10:50:04

Has Mr Market become indifferent to massive trading glitches?

Bulletin
Get news bulletins by email » Trading of Nasdaq-listed stocks, options halted

$5.7 trillion locked up by Nasdaq trading halt
August 22, 2013, 1:33 PM

Nasdaq’s unexplained trading halt Thursday locked up trading in stocks with a total market capitalization of $5.7 trillion.

The extraordinary halt in the trading of more than 2,000 issues, came after an as yet undisclosed technical glitch.

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:22:58

Maybe a bunch of insiders were betting on a fall, but then the prices were going up, so they had to halt trading long enough to write a script that would retroactively reverse their position.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-08-22 11:19:44

If you look at what’s happening today, all of the major asset classes are up in the United States. Stocks are up, interest rates are up, gold is up, the dollar is up, and real estate is up.

How is that even possible?

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-08-22 11:49:55

Too many people in cash/bonds yesterday, fewer people wanting to be in cash/bonds today.

Comment by the golden boy
2013-08-22 16:17:35

nah…it’s all ppp..can’t take any chances when $hit is down for hours.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 17:59:25

My thought as well. It’s great to have the ppp buoying the stock market at the moment a technical glitch threatens to sink it.

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 18:01:37

MARKETS
Updated August 22, 2013, 7:40 p.m. ET

Nasdaq in Fresh Market Failure

Glitch That Locked Out Investors for Three Hours Is Latest Malfunction in Electronic Trading

 
Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 18:12:15

when friends of bernak cash in their chips u can kiss your @ss goodbye.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-08-22 18:19:13

‘when friends of bernak cash in their chips u can kiss your @ss goodbye’

Well, it’s almost a complete sentence.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 18:05:39

“How is that even possible?”

Massive liquidity dump to offset market forces which might otherwise drive a significant dip and loss of investor confidence.

Historical reference and precedent: The day after Black Monday (October 19, 1987).

Since the markets went back up after Greenie’s massive liquidity dump in the wake of a 20% drop, this practice has been unannounced/unofficial/top-secret SOP at the Fed.

Smooth prices and confident investors = GOOD

Volatility and panicky investors = BAD

Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 18:19:41

keep the sheep feeling good.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-08-22 18:28:12

‘keep the sheep feeling good’

Your sexual preferences are not welcome here #2. I’ll give you one more chance and then it’s bam!

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Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-08-22 20:08:22

Ban the dumb ass.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2013-08-22 11:28:39

What conspiracies?

http://m.vice.com/en_uk/read/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo

“…in the late 1990s, the top US Treasury officials secretly conspired with a small cabal of banker big-shots to rip apart financial regulation across the planet.”

Comment by jose canusi
2013-08-22 13:50:08

eco, that just might be the most Important. Post. Ever. on this blog.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

jose

Comment by Carl Morris
2013-08-22 14:27:08

I thought it was interesting but I didn’t see the text of the memo or any other proof that it was what they said it was, so I wasn’t sure what to make of it.

 
 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-08-22 19:04:22

Silly, it’s not a secret conspiracy if Treasury officials are themselves bank big shots.

Comment by tresho
2013-08-23 10:58:55

How can a conspiracy be secret when it was so darn obvious at the time?

 
 
 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 11:41:17

Met Reptile Gov. Bobby Jindal’s brother today at a CLE lunch event. Seems like a cool, laid back bro. If he wasn’t indian he would perfectly fit the stereotype of a frat bro.

http://www.gibsondunn.com/lawyers/njindal

I didn’t get a chance to talk to him, it wasn’t that sort of event.

 
Comment by Joe Smith-Flacco
2013-08-22 12:46:56

Reminder: The next mayor of NYC is either going to be a lesbian (Quinn) or a uber liberal white man who is married to an african american lesbian (Di Blasio)*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirlane_McCray = DiBlasio’s wife. She came out as a lesbian back in the 90s by writing an article in Essence Magazine. She’s still lesbian but DiBlasio explains “my wife hates labels”.

WTF?

Comment by ahansen
2013-08-23 00:05:26

It IS possible to have a life partnership with someone you don’t boink, you know….

 
 
Comment by samk
Comment by the golden boy
2013-08-22 16:20:48

SEC??

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 17:58:05

Icahn/Buffett model of stock market manipulation:

1) Buy a gazillion shares of Company Z

2) Tweet that you bought gazillion shares of Company Z

3) Cash in chips when price goes up

Comment by azdude02
2013-08-22 18:09:17

its a big club and u aint in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-08-22 20:42:46

I’d never join a club that would have me as a member.

– Groucho Marx

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Comment by rms
2013-08-23 00:24:36

“its a big club and u aint in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

+1 Hehe.

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