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Comment by goon squad
2013-11-15 05:17:02

Realtors are liars.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 07:24:46

Now that Yellen is all but confirmed, can the Wall Street bull market increase without bound from here?

And if so, will the U.S. wealth distribution get more lopsided than it already is? (Bear in mind the last time wealth was this unevenly distributed was the 1920s…)

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 07:29:34

She has convincingly demonstrated one of the most important qualifications for a Fed chair:

12:03 pm Nov 14, 2013
Markets
Yellen on Stocks: This Isn’t a Bubble
By Steven Russolillo
CONNECT

Famous last words?

Janet Yellen, the nominee to head the Federal Reserve, says the U.S. stock market is not in a bubble, judging by traditional valuation metrics. The S&P 500 is up 24% this year, has hit a series of record highs and has risen by more than 160% off the bear-market low in March 2009.

“Stock prices have risen pretty robustly,” she told lawmakers Thursday. But looking at several valuation measures — she specifically cited equity-risk premiums — she said: “you would not see stock prices in territory that suggest…bubble-like conditions.”

Equity-risk premiums measure the extra return investors demand to lure them into stocks and out of the safety of government bonds.

When asked specifically whether there is a federal role to support the stock market, Ms. Yellen provided a one-word answer: “No.”

Her comments come as the debate over whether stocks are in bubble territory has been heating up. Market bubbles are often associated with heightened financial speculation that occurs during boom times. Stock bubbles burst in 2000 when the tech boom fizzled and in 2007 when the housing market collapsed.

The S&P 500 hasn’t had a pullback of at least 10% since October 2011, a stretch that has made some market watchers worried that the markets are getting overheated.

Still, the S&P 500 trades at about 15 times projected earnings for the next 12 months, according to FactSet. That’s slightly higher than the long-term average of about 14.

“At this stage, I don’t see risks to financial stability” from current policies, she says, while noting limited evidence of “reach for yield” among investors or a buildup of leverage.

She says it’s important for the Fed to “attempt to detect asset bubbles.” For now, however, she doesn’t see any bubbles that need to be popped.

 
Comment by scdave
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 08:00:27

I’ll bet they work pretty hard (meaning the younger folks who run the company).

If you look around a bit, you will find stories of trust fund babies who completely blow everything they are handed.

Comment by scdave
2013-11-15 08:06:47

I’ll bet they work pretty hard ??

I doubt it….A least in the context of my perspective on what “working hard” means…Show up ?? Maybe…Working hard ?? Not likely…

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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 09:21:37

OK, let me rephrase that: I’ll bet their assistants work their asses off.

 
Comment by scdave
2013-11-15 10:06:07

The ultra wealthy are, generally, the worst “Task Masters”…Larry Ellison comes to mind…

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 08:50:16

How does the real economy look under the veneer of bullish optimism over the prospect of Yellen’s appointment?

I’m detecting a big disconnect. Bad economic statistics are a signal that QE3 will last longer than expected, and hence great for stock and housing prices. The longer the economy stays on its back, the more money the Wall Street banking establishment will earn off the large spread between ZIRP short rates and tethered long rates. The Fed’s recovery plan pretty much assures the recovery will take a very, very long time, as Wall Street vampire squids prosper when Main Street is flat on its back.

Nov. 15, 2013, 10:38 a.m. EST
New York manufacturing index turns negative
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November Empire State index turns negative
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By Steve Goldstein, MarketWatch
Bloomberg

Workers move large piano pieces at the Steinway & Sons piano factory in the Queens borough of New York.

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — An index of manufacturing conditions in the New York area turned negative in November, a reading that suggests a recent upturn in the factory sector may be petering out.

The Empire State’s general business conditions index turned negative in November for the first time since May, according to data released by the New York Fed Friday.

The Empire State index fell to negative 2.2 from positive 1.5 in October. Economists polled by MarketWatch expected a positive 5.5 reading.

The so-called internals were disappointing as well: the new-orders component fell to negative 5.5 from positive 7.8, and the shipments component fell to -0.5 from positive 13.

“Although this isn’t always a good guide for the more important ISM survey or trends in manufacturing output/orders, it could suggest the large run-up in inventory seen in the third quarter is putting a dampener on manufacturing,” said Andrew Grantham of CIBC World Markets, in a note to clients.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 09:25:43

“Workers move large piano pieces at the Steinway & Sons piano factory in the Queens borough of New York.”

If the Steinway & Sons piano factor slows down, the New York City economy is doomed!

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 09:31:49

Nov. 15, 2013, 9:15 a.m. EST
October industrial production down 0.1%
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November Empire State index turns negative
By Steve Goldstein

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Industrial production fell 0.1% in October, the first drop since July, as mining and utilities output fell, the Federal Reserve said Friday. Economists polled by MarketWatch had expected no change. The 1.6% drop in mining output came after six months of gains, and output there is up 4.8% from the same period of 2012. Manufacturing output edged up 0.3%, the third straight rise, and was up 3.3% from a year ago. Utilities output fell 1.1% but is up 0.2% from a year ago. Capacity utilization slipped to 78.1% from 78.3% in September and below the 78.2% seen in a MarketWatch-compiled economist poll.

 
Comment by scdave
2013-11-15 10:09:47

The Empire State index fell to negative 2.2 from positive 1.5 in October. Economists polled by MarketWatch expected a positive 5.5 reading ??

From a expected expected 5.5 positive to a 2.2 negative number ?? Sounds like quite a miss…

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 14:01:51

Are industry cartels which engage in price fixing and other anticompetitive practices legal under the Sherman Antitrust Act?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 14:09:20

Meet Andrew Huszar, the ex-Fed insider who hates QE
November 14, 2013, 9:50 AM
Bloomberg
Andrew Huszar

When you write a takedown piece about the most controversial monetary policy measure in recent history, there are loads of points and counterpoints to be dredged up in response.

Andrew Huszar is certainly no fan of the Fed’s quantitative easing program, but his problems with it extend to a broader indictment of the current economic and financial system in the U.S. than just the central bank’s most recent policy tool, he said in an interview with MarketWatch.

Huszar asserts that the big banks ultimately profited from QE by skimming off the top: As the Fed drove down benchmark interest rates, bringing with it the wholesale costs for banks to make mortgages, the retail rates being charged to customers weren’t dropping accordingly. The increasing spreads went toward the banks’ bottom line.

On the other hand, lower interest rates made other parts of banks’ businesses less profitable. But, Huszar countered that banks also benefited from two other factors, which were briefly mentioned in his piece: the run-up in prices on banks’ own securities holdings, and commissions from brokering the Fed’s QE trading.

Quantitative easing had its benefits when it was first introduced, Huszar said, including stabilizing a financial system that was reeling at the time. But five years later, the landscape he imagined when he went to work for the Fed hasn’t come to fruition.

Is the Fed’s easing program to blame for this? Huszar says yes. But there are other factors at play as well, he says, including a regulatory regime that isn’t tough enough, and leaves too much power in the hands of a few big banks. On that point, Huszar isn’t alone: during the same day his op-ed ran, Ken Griffin of the hedge fund Citadel also called for the U.S. to break up the big banks.

“My belief when I went back to the Fed was that I was going to be helping to stabilize the economy, which would then open the door for real restructuring and reform by the rest of the U.S. government,“ said Huszar. “I believe five years later, we see the same size and concentration of banks in the U.S. banking sector. You have a huge cartel at the top of the industry.”

– Ben Eisen

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2013-11-15 18:43:06

The Fed is not a cartel subject to Antitrust laws. It is a public utility.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-11-15 07:29:32

heh….. Tom Keene is already referring to Yellen as Helicopter Janet.

Keep your cash boys….. your’e going to need it in ways you cannot imagine.

 
Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-11-15 08:22:20

2014: the year the dead cat stopped bouncing and sank into the quicksand (single family home bubble burst). I can smell a 20% (at least) haircut from this side of 2014.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 09:27:51

I love your bullish optimism, Bill! And I also share it. The picture is altogether too perfect, with Wall Street partying harder by the day on the Yellen appointment prospect. The bull is clearly going to drink itself to death before the Fed takes away the punch bowl.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 13:33:20

Is the Fed driving people to drink?
November 15, 2013, 1:06 PM

It’s conventional wisdom that quantitative easing by the Federal Reserve is propping up stock prices, a “sugar high” as Mike Johanns, Warren Buffett’s senator, claimed as he questioned Janet Yellen yesterday.

Consider: Since the Fed began its second round of QE in November 2010, the Fed’s balance sheet has risen by 69% to $3.86 trillion. Meanwhile, the S&P500 index is up by 600 points, or 50%. The correlation between QE and stock prices is an impressive 0.94.

It surely follows that when the Fed begins to taper, the stock market will stall. And when the Fed begins to shrink its balance sheet, prices will plunge. Right?

Not so fast, says Ethan Harris, global economist for Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who calls the relationship between the Fed’s balance sheet and stock prices a “spurious correlation.” That’s what happens when you confuse a coincidence with cause and effect. “One of the big no-no’s in statistics is to correlate two trending variables,” Harris writes in a weekly note to clients.

Harris notes that the Fed’s balance sheet has been growing for the past three years, and a lot of other things have also been growing over that time. It’s easy to draw pretty charts that reach ridiculous conclusions using spurious correlations.

The Fed’s balance sheet has a 0.95 correlation with the U.S. population, a 0.94 correlation with vehicle sales, a 0.92 correlation with liquor sales.

“Taken literally, the Fed is pushing people to drink, drive and have children,” Harris says.

 
Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-11-15 21:04:41

Yeah “too perfect” is exactly how I would describe it. Something is gonna give!

 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-15 09:29:57

“We can track 40% of our business back to Zillow.”

Realtwhore® ad seen on HBB web site…

Does Zillow inflate its estimates to aid and abet Realtwhores®?

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2013-11-15 09:49:17

I think it would be funny to discuss the tone-deafness of the 0.01% even after 5 years…

http://www.newser.com/story/177559/jpmorgans-twitter-qa-blows-up-in-its-face.html

 
Comment by cactus
2013-11-15 14:02:01

Some kind of new economy we have here or what ?

NEW YORK (AP) — Zulily’s stock is surging in its first day as a publicly traded company.

The initial public offering of 11.5 million shares priced at $22 each, above the projected price range of $18 to $20.

Zulily Inc. is offering about 6.4 million shares and certain selling stockholders are offering approximately 5.1 million shares. Zulily won’t receive any proceeds from shares sold by the stockholders.

The Seattle online retailer raised about $253 million in the IPO.

The underwriters have a 30-day option to buy up to an additional 1.7 million shares.

Zulily said in a regulatory filing that it plans to use the offering’s net proceeds for working capital and other general corporate purposes. It may also use some of the proceeds for acquisitions of other businesses, products or technologies.

Zulily, which launched its namesake website in January 2010, had 2012 sales of $331.2 million. That compares with 2011 sales of $142.5 million.

The stock is trading on the Nasdaq Global Select Market under the “ZU” ticker symbol.

Shares jumped $16.48, or 74.9 percent, to $38.48 in Friday midday trading.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-16 01:07:02

How about an Elizabeth Warren presidency against the backdrop of a Janet Yellen Fed Chairwomanship? It could be just the right medicine to put a stop to Megabank, Inc’s rapacious plundering of everybody else beneath their hard rapacious trampling goats hoofs.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-11-16 01:10:00

Most Powerful Women
Smooth sailing for Yellen in front of Senate
By Annalyn Kurtz
November 14, 2013: 5:56 PM ET
Warren to Yellen: Focus on banks

Much of the hearing focused on the Fed’s role as a banking supervisor.

Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren urged Yellen to make banking regulation just as a high of a priority as monetary policy.

The truth is, if the regulators had done their jobs and reined in the banks, we wouldn’t need to be talking about quantitative easing because we could have avoided the 2008 crisis,” Warren said.

At one point Warren also suggested the Federal Reserve plan regularly scheduled meetings to discuss regulation — just like it does to discuss interest rates.

I think that’s a very worthwhile idea,” Yellen responded.

 
 
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