The Housing Bubble

“Angelo provided for people a means of making their dreams come true.”

He sure did. I mean nothing breeds more happiness than a personal financial meltdown.

Our blog handles rhyme!

“that new chick from Wendy’s. She is all balls…..”

The quality of postings on this blog is so sophisticated, the comments so intelligent, and the proposals so meaningful.

It is clear your not in charge for a good reason SBP. Go back to pickin’ strawberries.

Just ignore them…There are many hear on the blog that provide a wealth of informations and opinion…

hear = here

You can post all the lies with your sophistication, the truth will always win the day.

Poor LIEberals/Housing Fraudsters……. boo hoo hoo.

You just want to pick a partisan fight and distract from the idea that neither side is worth a damn. Would I favor a more conservative candidate over the socialists now in charge? Sure. Does the other side offer much of a difference? Based on both sides pretty much favoring bail outs of the banks and and FBs and this being a nonissue in the 08 election, no. All balls socialism v. JV socialism, not much of a choice.

I like that new chick on the Wendy’s commercial, too. That red hair is a smokin’, err….umm….nevermind.

…..I think that actually is “Wendy”. Her dad named the business after her and she is all growed up.

Less government more competition,

Trite boilerplate

Repeal.

Obama Is Wounded. Obamacare Is Unstoppable

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-22/obama-is-wounded-obamacare-is-unstoppable.html

“It’s a done deal, folks.
(Obamacare) created a raft of incentives to encourage health insurers, hospitals and other powerful constituencies to buy into its goals. That raft will now help keep the law afloat.”

tort reform

“This is conservative shorthand for closing the courthouse door to malpractice lawsuits. As we’ve repeatedly pointed out, malpractice litigation and its consequences in “defensive medicine” account for 2% to 3% of all U.S. healthcare spending; “frivolous” lawsuits by any reasonable definition constitute a minuscule fraction of that. Shutting the courthouse door only imposes a burden on people who have been genuinely injured.” *

cross border sales of insurance

“That would guarantee a race to the bottom, as insurers hustle to locate in the states allowing the junkiest health plans — just as allowing credit card companies to charge customers the rate in the firms’ home state produced a boon for tolerant places like South Dakota. California’s ceiling on credit card interest: 10%. Rate on your credit card: 20% or more.

…If the problems with the website really are largely fixed, most of these other complaints will fade away. In many respects, the Affordable Care Act already is becoming integrated into the American way of healthcare.

It’s unimaginable that Americans really wish to return to a pre-Obamacare world. That’s a world where exclusions from coverage for those with medical conditions were common, even for minor ailments; where lifetime benefit limits meant a cutoff in coverage for people with chronic or serious disease while they were still young; where arguing with your insurer over a rejected claim was a daily reality for millions.

So, yes, the rollout has been rough. But it’s a mistake to think of a website as the be-all and end-all of the Affordable Care Act. Healthcare reform has come to stay.”*

*As Obamacare website relaunches, there’s reason to hope

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20131201,0,966731.column

Rio, Obamacare is the bottom. It is just like being on Medicaid the worse doctors and very few specialists will take it. Too busy to fully comment but this law is so bad that the Democrats will vote to repeal it soon just to save their political necks. It is the late 80’s all over again. Google it

“this law is so bad that the Democrats will vote to repeal it soon just to save their political necks.”

Lordy, I’m a-prayin’ you’re right here. Probably the best thing that ever happened to the GOP, went from being cursed by the shutdown to blessed by the O-care debacle. Unfortunately I think we’re going to have to watch the agony unfold over 2014, which I think is going to really be the pits.

the Democrats will vote to repeal it soon just to save their political necks.

As usual, I’d like you to show me the math - including the veto math.

“Voting to repeal” and repealing are not the same thing.

Besides, I see nothing wrong with fixing flaws in Obamacare as long as the basic reality of healthcare being available to all remains intact. And I think it will be.

If there are enough votes to override the veto, then it will be repealed. There’s going to be a huge fight over this, Obama’s not going to let his “signature” legislation go quietly into the night. The reality for vulnerable dem politicians is, he doesn’t give a rat’s patootie what happens to them as long as his signature legislation stays in place, and that reality is beginning to dawn on some of the faithful. They had his back, but he sure doesn’t have theirs.

Here’s how it probably goes down: delay in the individual mandate, to avoid the vote, because even if there are not enough votes to override the veto, that it even comes to a vote would still be a catastrophe for the O-man. So the delay will be the compromise. Heck, they’re delaying and waivering the thing piecemeal already, but trying to hang on to the individual mandate for dear life.

If there are enough votes to override the veto, then it will be repealed.

Right. Show me the math of the number of House and Senate Dems “in trouble” in 2014 who would amount to a 2/3 override.

I don’t think it can be done. I think it’s noise.

They had (Obama’s) back, but he sure doesn’t have theirs.

I think Obama’s now more concerned with having the backs of 50 million uninsured Americans and the 150 million who could lose their insurance if they lose their jobs and the 10’s of millions with junk insurance. We finally had a President who walked the line for most Americans.

that it even comes to a vote would still be a catastrophe for the O-man.

Catastrophe? How? Really. Like he won’t be re-elected or something? Catastrophe?

I’ll bet Obama sleeps pretty well, even last month.

‘We finally had a President who walked the line for most Americans.’

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IfsqS7atDQ0/TjmSWChnIlI/AAAAAAAAAFI/n51DL6G8ikQ/s1600/Obama+Altar.jpg

BTW, nobody gives a crap about this has-been and his failed agenda anymore.

Here’s how it probably goes down:

Like this I think:
Lot’s of bluster, noise, vitriol, name-calling, trying to re-fight lost causes, b!tchin n moaning about “it’s not fair”, some bi-partisian changes for the better, health-care-for-all goals remain intact and ObamaCare muddles along in fits-and-starts to the betterment of American healthcare.

The math works like this there are about 50 million uninsured people in the U.S. Obamacare will insure about 20 million of those. To do this Obama will degrade the care for about 250 million people. It is not just the people presently in individual policies that are going to get stuck in Medicaid type plans. It is probably be 50 to 80 million who will be moved from company group insurance to the exchange. The insurance companies designed the plans to have very limited networks and after the Obamacare roll out disaster they quietly cutback both the networks and renegotiated proposed contract reimbursements. To pay taxes for Obamacare even people lucky enough to avoid the exchanges will see benefit cuts.

Thus, twenty million people will be more likely to vote for the Democrats, thirty million about the same, and 250 million less likely to vote Democratic. Rio is right about Obama, he is sleeping sound but only because Obama only cares about Obama. He did not care what he did to Democrats in 2010 and he does not really care about the carnage he is about to inflict in 2014.

(To insure the uninsured) Obama will degrade the care for about 250 million people.

I don’t thinks so at all because many of those 250 million have junk insurance now. That’s a big factor. And Health-care costs are already slowing their rise since the ACA, thus more care for the same money. Also many of those uninsured are related to the insured. I’ve seen it in my family. Thus the insured seeing less suffering and worries of their uninsured kin will lead to greater mental and physical health for all. Also, a healthier population will translate into more productivity and more wealth and more wealth leads to better health.

Look. We’re all in this together as an American society. We are a people, not commodities in some perverted “capitalistic” wet-dream. An insured American is no more of an American than an uninsured American.

250 million people do not have junk insurance. That is a lie from the liar in chief to cover the fact that people are paying more for less in the exchanges to subsidize the uninsured. A 63 year old man does not need to have birth control or pregnancy covered in his insurance and does not believe the failure to cover it, makes the insurance junk.

250 million people do not have junk insurance.

I know, But now you are just bullsh!tting. Here’s my sentence:

“I don’t thinks so at all because many of those 250 million have junk insurance now.”

A 63 year old man does not need to have birth control or pregnancy covered in his insurance

A 63 year old man doesn’t have pregnancy coverage. But his women does. Newsflash: Men don’t get pregnant. But their women do, due to the action of both. See the connection?

As I said, we are a people and a society, and that includes man and women and their children. Society is not a Koch brothers spread-sheet. We are a people.

A 63 year old man doesn’t have pregnancy coverage. But his women does.

Most 63 year old men do not have a GF that needs birth control. If they do, they can provide their own health care. No, Rio you do not get it, it is called individual responsibility, it is what made West Germany so much more prosperous than East Germany with its socialism that they had to create a wall, plant landmines and have the guards shoot to kill and people still crossed the border.

Most 63 year old men do not have a GF that needs birth control. I

That does not matter in the context of society and family. It does not have to be his mate to see the importance and connection of men having a stake in women’s reproduction. Maybe it’s his married or unmarried daughter or grand daughter who gets pregnant. Maybe when the man turns 83, it’s his daughter and grand-daughter who will take care of him. Maybe he would not have a daughter or grand daughter if they had not maternity coverage. Maybe without maternity and prenatal care his daughter would have serious medical problems.

We are all in this together as a people. You don’t think it’s in society’s interest for women to have a stake in their men’s prostate exams or other men problems? And men don’t have a stake in womens’ health? Wrong. This is how society works.

made West Germany so much more prosperous than East German

West Germany has much more socialized medicine than America, more unions, more government manufacturing programs and much more of a safety net for its people.

A 63 year old man does not need to have birth control or pregnancy covered

And that sentiment is intellectually dishonest for a Koch brothers’ money-religion disciple.

If a Koch brothers’ disciple is worried about the costs of covering pregnancy, they would encourage “subsidizing” birth control.

(Because of the math and stuff)

But is the individual responsibility portion of the economy that made them more prosperous than East Germany and when their economy began to slow down around ten years ago, they cut back on the welfare state. Socialism is an expense that sometimes you can afford but it always results in less not more growth. When you down to 2% growth we need to be cutting back on the welfare state not adding to it.

when (West Germany’s) economy began to slow down around ten years ago, they cut back on the welfare state.

I guess they found the right mix. Scandinavia and Germany have much more socialized medicine than America, many more unions, many more government manufacturing programs and much more of a safety net for its people than does America.

Scandinavia also has happier people in better health.

“Also many of those uninsured are related to the insured. I’ve seen it in my family. Thus the insured seeing less suffering and worries of their uninsured kin will lead to greater mental and physical health for all.”

So you tell the board how rich you are and how many jobs you have created you are but you have relatives that are uninsured and you do not hire them or help provide them with insurance? I have the duty to insure your relatives not you? It is so typical of a liberal it might even be true.

you tell the board how rich you are and how many jobs you have created you are but you have relatives that are uninsured and you do not hire them or help provide them with insurance?

There’s your math problems and lack of reality and poor reading skills maybe?. “seen” is past tense. Maybe I was 20 and in college when it happened. Maybe they had a preexisting condition and could not get coverage. Maybe they refused “charity”. Maybe they were handicapped and could not do any job I “hired” them for.

Your view of the world as it really is, is narrow and stunted.

BTW. I am not rich. I am fine.

I have the duty to insure your relatives not you?

You have a duty as an American and a human being to support a system that allows all Americans to have access to decent health-care.

We are a society and a people, not an actuarial abstraction.

An extra, “you are” in there. The other alternative is that you are just a paid Soros’ blogger accusing everyone else of being a paid blogger and creating a fictional identity.

He’s a high-net worth fraud with a hot Brazilian wife of 27 years. Messiahcare debacle has set healthcare reform back 20 years. The math works like this, politicians favor their own power and throw The Messiah aside. It doesn’t work then the Rs gain majorities in both chambers with a landslide. Then they can defund everything doing the will of the people even without 2/3ds. The messiah can play spoiled little child and try to veto everything, looking more and more foolish because he is thwarting the will of the clear majority. Interesting to see that play out and Hillary’s take cause Dems in disarray ain’t good for her.

Mangoo you are just a water carrier for a sadly failed policy.

He’s a high-net worth fraud with a hot Brazilian wife of 27 years

Finally…..

I know I’m winning the argument big when Strawberrypicker starts losing it. It’s a pattern that I enjoy. wuff wuff!

Mangoo you are just a water carrier for a sadly failed policy.

If that were true you might now be lucid instead of foaming at the mouth. lol

‘I know I’m winning’

http://cdn.soundvillage.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/charlie-sheen-winning-tshirt.jpg?84cd58

The only winner here is me….. and I’m living in Lolas head rent free.

I am sure there plenty of room and an open floor plan.

“there is”. It is nice to have an empty space to live in.

I am sure there plenty of room and an open floor plan.

Now who has the “open floor plan”. Let’s see. Today, you can’t even come close to addressing:

1. Your faulty veto math
2. The stake that men and women have in their collective health and their children’s.
3. The fact that “socialist” Germany and Scandinavia are happier, healthier and better off than America for most their people.
4. That you have the duty to support your own country and people’s health regardless of you Koch “math.

And you have no higher philosophical imagination or originality than a rock.

You didn’t debate worth squat. Just boilerplate jive. None of your ilk can come close. Call me names and grind your teeth. It’s funny.

“‘I know I’m winning’

http://cdn.soundvillage.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/charlie-sheen-winning-tshirt.jpg?84cd58”

Good one, Ben. Also this:

“BTW, nobody gives a crap about this has-been and his failed agenda”

I think my fave “Obama Moment” was the Syria debacle. Him and Kerry fartin’ through their pieholes every five seconds with some inane lie ripped from the neocon playbook. Swear to jeebus, reminded me of a couple of ventriloquist dummies.

You are just like Obama, you can only win a debate or fix a website when you are allowed to judge the results. Brazil has 1/3 the standard of living as Mississippi with similar demographics. You just want to compare apples to oranges. At any given IQ, the United States offers the best income and the best standard of living. There is no place in Africa or South American that African-Americans would have a better standard of living than US. German-Americans still live better in this country than in Germany etc. Give me a country of three hundred million German-Americans and we would have no trade or budget deficits. It is an inconvenient truth but it is the truth.

Messiahcare debacle has set healthcare reform back 20 years.

That statement is just plain wrong.

Let’s think this out:
How can “ObamaCare” have set back healthcare reform 20 years” when there has been no real healthcare reform in 50 years and that in 50 years, millions have lost health insurance and 100’s of thousands have died for lack of healthcare.

And now millions will have access to healthcare because of ACA but ACA has “set healthcare reform back 20 years”?

That jive does not compute. It’s just RepubMath jive.

Brazil has 1/3 the standard of living as Mississippi with similar demographic

Yawn. Right. I win the ObamaCare/economic debate again and all you can do is bring up Brazil. I’m an American, not Brazilian. Grasp at straws and flail.

At any given IQ, the United States offers the best income and the best standard of living.

And declining rapidly because of ReaganOmic, trickle-down jive sold to American people. It failed. It has proven to have failed. FAIL. Admit it, get over it.

You flail and fail today because you can’t address:
1. Your faulty veto math
2. The stake that men and women have in their collective health and their children’s.
3. The fact that “socialist” Germany and Scandinavia are happier, healthier and better off than America for most their people.
4. That you have the duty to support your own country and people’s health regardless of you Koch “math.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Notice, we still have a higher per capita income higher than Germany or countries like Sweden. You could substitute IQ for income and virtually all the same countries would be on the top for both.. Capitalism helps countries maximize their IQ advantage. Bad government can impede this advantage but average IQ is and will increasingly be the factor that determines success. Singapore has practiced eugenics for decades and is quickly moving up the charts

I’m winning

You doubt it?

Of course I won the “debate” today. Look at you all’s tactics. I reason utilizing rational, humanistic and moral points combined with an aspect of patriotism and Christianity. How are of you zealots going to touch that? By calling me names and insulting me?

Won’t work.

‘How are of you zealots going to touch that? By calling me names and insulting me?’

‘And you have no higher philosophical imagination or originality than a rock.’

Nobody cares about Obamacare anymore. Even the Clinton’s have stuck a fork in it.

You’re deluding yourself again Lola.

you have no higher philosophical imagination or originality than a rock.

Let’s do the math and look at the tone Ben.

I call about one “half-name” minor “insult” for every 10 bigoted, dirty and ugly name thrown my way. And mine are based on the facts of their arguments, not lies and an allowed smear campaign.

And I’m “fighting” the battle with one hand tied behind my back because you censor me now.

Rio, this has to be the most depressing thread I’ve seen in a while. There is a camp of people who say “I’m better than you” and another camp that says “There but for the grace of god go I.” You can’t convince anyone to cross from one camp to another.

“And declining rapidly because of ReaganOmic, trickle-down jive sold to American people. It failed. It has proven to have failed. FAIL. Admit it, get over it.”

Ronald Reagan had almost as much growth in one year as Obama has had in five and Reagan has failed? There you go again as Reagan would say.

I censor everybody. I don’t think you’d like it much if I didn’t.

There’s no battle. Can you recall another “law of the land”? The metric system. Oh yes, we were going to throw away our rulers and start driving kilometers per hour. Except everybody said, “this is stupid” and waited for the law to get repealed.

You want to know why almost nobody is signing up for Obamacare? They get to the page where it shows what they’ll have to pay and how crappy the plan is, and they hit “close tab.”

this has to be the most depressing thread I’ve seen in a while. There is a camp of people who say “I’m better than you” and another camp that says “There but for the grace of god go I.”

It is not that that depressing imo, it is powerful because it shines that light in their faces and the faces of many. They have nothing but “we’re better than you” and a false-god, spread-sheet only value of society.

It might be depressing to see how part of the American population has been set against the other because of money, but it would be more depressing to have such a perversion of our Democracy and American-as-one-nation hidden from view.

They lost the war and are now fighting a losing battle imo. And they act as angry bigoted ugly.

Ronald Reagan had almost as much growth in one year as Obama has had in five and Reagan has failed? There you go again

Because Reagan’s voodoo Reaganomics has not dismantled the American jobs base yet. Reagan was president before his failed trickle-down policies had destroyed the American middle-class in favor of his rich buddies.

Do you really not understand math, trends and history?

Lola….

The war is over. It failed and it drives you nuts and you’re angry about it.

That’s the reality.

Correction:
Because Reagan’s voodoo Reaganomics has HAD not dismantled the American jobs base yet.

I understand holding the people that were responsible for their own policies. Clinton and not Reagan passed NAFTA and gave WTO status to China. It was not Reagan that failed to enforce the border. These are the events that killed the American standard of living. Reagan raised the standard of living under his watch. I remember reading an article in the Nation magazine where the author was actually happy that Reagan was elected because it thought that no one could solve the twin problem of high inflation and recession. He did. Obama and you just cannot accept the blame for the failed Obama programs. Blaming everyone else is just getting old. I understand math, trends and history far better than you do. You insult anyone who disagrees with you and than whine when they give it back to you.

‘Clinton…gave WTO status to China.’

I could be wrong, but I believe it was Bush the younger that did that.

Obamacare? They get to the page where it shows what they’ll have to pay and how crappy the plan is, and they hit “close tab.”

Not in my case. I’m healthy but the ObamaCare plans are much better than what I had available last year in the two possible states that I might return to.

And the pre-Obamacare applications were so convoluted and sinister that they could have dropped me after I’d gotten sick if I had forgot to mention a 2004 heart-burn prescription. And they would have checked with serious cop-like investigators just to drop me. “Liberty”? That was Sinister crap before ACA. ObamaCare is real progress.

The metric system.

Science and military use the metric system in the USA. I saw a very rare American dude/contractor in Brazil Friday measuring in inches. I said joking, “Dude they don’t use inches here”. He said, “I’ll measure in inches and build it in centimeters.”

Actually, I should qualify that Ben. Bush gave them a tentative status which required Congress to review their human rights record but Clinton took that requirement away. However, all the Bushes and Clinton share the responsibility for the collapse of the economy.

There but for the grace of goo… He’s long since in his cups. I think it’s his Sunday tradition. Such fun.

To quote Pappy O Daniel’s campaign manager, “ain’t gonna be a paddlin, gonna be a kickin”

Your bosses can hold onto that snake all they want, but when the Clintons have thrown you aside, you are done.

Clinton and not Reagan passed NAFTA and gave WTO status to China.

Clinton finally signed the bills started under Reagan and Bush and Repubs back in the 80’s - Repub philosophy embraced by half Dem Clinton and many DINO’s. Idiots. Businessman R. Perot argued against NAFTA in the 92 debates and was correct.

Clinton embraced Reagan’s now proven to have failed economic policies pushed in his cabinet by Robert Rubin. Including de-regulation of the financial institutions. (Got housing bubble?)

As I said, we are living with 33 years of Repub inspired and sold failed dogma.

This is not a test.

Sorry but Clinton pushed the trade with China not connected to human rights:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=82426

Just more blaming Reagan for Clinton’s policies and he knew it would destroy jobs when he worked to pass it:

http://www.epi.org/publication/issuebriefs_ib137/

Another Sunday nite smack down for Lola. Nothing he/she says makes sense. A high net worth individual who is trolling the Messiahcare website to see what kind of coverage he can get? Yeah right. Mangoo your words always betray you. You can’t keep up the ruse because you can’t remember what lies you told.

You’ve been long since caught out you fraud.

Excerpt from a link that will soon post:, the way Lola lies about history I am not sure he is not Obama, at least if Obama had a twin it would look like Lola:

No one can predict the future. But the Clinton Administration is confidently forecasting that the huge U.S. trade deficit with China will improve if Congress accords China permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) in order to accommodate Beijing’s membership in the World Trade Organization (WTO). President Clinton claims that the recently signed trade agreement with China “creates a win-win result for both countries” (Clinton 2000, 9). He argues that exports to China “now support hundreds of thousands of American jobs,” and that “these figures can grow substantially with the new access to the Chinese market the WTO agreement creates” (Clinton 2000, 10). Others in the White House, such as Kenneth Liberthal, the special advisor to the president and senior director for Asia affairs at the National Security Council, echo Clinton’s assessment:

“Let’s be clear as to why a trade deficit might decrease in the short term. China exports far more to the U.S. than it imports [from] the U.S….It will not grow as much as it would have grown without this agreement and over time clearly it will shrink with this agreement.”1

These claims are misleading. The Administration has proposed to facilitate China’s entry into the WTO at a time when the U.S. already has a massive trade deficit with China.

Sorry but Clinton pushed the trade with China not connected to human rights:

Sorry? Why? As I’ve said, and many thinking people know, the USA has been following Reagan/Republican failed economic theories for 33 years. Clinton included.

We (including Democrats) were sold a bill of goods by Repubs and right-wing think tanks with only the interest of the rich in mind. We did it and it didn’t work. Look around.

We were sold out as a country. And now that they’ve gutted our jobs base and health-insurance base, they want us to shut up and die. Well, Obama and the Dems drew the line.

You guys are funny now, barking.

Nothing he/she says makes sense.

No. Everything I say “makes sense”. You see it. No? Look at you.

My points are consistently powerful, truthful and logical - enough to drive a certain bunch of you into a predictable rage. Wuff Wuff!!

You guys have no countering with facts and logic, just (enjoyable to watch) floundering and child-like ineffectual lashing out.

Dude, it’s funny.

Another key excerpt that actually predicted the financial crisis that hit us in 2008 due to Clinton’s policy but Rio wants to blame Reagan:

In reality, the deficit path shown in Figure 1 is unsustainable, and would lead to a financial crisis long before the deficit with China reached anything approaching $600 billion. But this analysis, the Administration’s best case, illustrates the danger that a rapid growth of the bilateral trade deficit would pose for U.S. employment in the future. Even if these trends persisted for just the next 10 years, then the U.S. deficit with China would reach $131 billion in 2010. The growth in exports to China would create 325,000 jobs in this period, but imports would eliminate 1.142 million domestic job opportunities. 8 On balance, 817,000 jobs could be eliminated by the growth in the trade deficit with China over the next decade, and these losses would come on top of the 880,000 jobs the U.S. has already lost due to its current trade deficit with that country.

Now that your LIEberal mythology has been exposed for the fraud that it and you are, whatchya think about the disasterous housing market Lola?

How many more people will be enslaved before the insanity ends Lola?

But the Clinton Administration is confidently forecasting that the huge U.S. trade deficit with China will improve if Congress accords China permanent normal trade relations

Dude. Really?

One knows one has won the argument about globalization when a Repub shill is blaming failed Republican initiated globalization on a Democrat.

Everyone knows “free-trade” was most championed by Repubs - has been for 33 years. (See Repubs blocking Dem’s bill to end offshoring tax credits)

To now try to blame it on Dems proves you now know Repubs dream of globalization has failed Americans. Another key plank of Repub failed dogma has failed. So you blame it on a Dem. Wow. You should better think through your “strategy”.

A high net worth individual who is trolling the Messiahcare website to see what kind of coverage he can get? Yeah right.

You are joking right? An American thinking about returning would not want to see his family’s health-insurance coverage? Or be curious what all the noise of health-care is up there? Are you for real? I think not. I think you are an angry human being lashing out as a child at anything you don’t understand.

Ayn Rand took Medicare when she was worth 5 mil in today’s dollars because she was afraid her lung cancer would BK her.

I’m not worth 5 mil and will buy health insurance if I return to the USA. What possible reality do you live in Strawberrypicker/tj?

You always seem to ignore when you are getting schooled. No one is foaming at the mouth but you.

Again, I say, A high net worth individual who is trolling the Messiahcare website to see what kind of coverage he can get? Yeah right. Mangoo your words always betray you.

I’m not tj. If you could put down your drink and rage for a minute, that’d be easy to see. That comment alone shows you’ve lost it.

High net worth individual lookin into gettin sum of that Obamacare. That makes even less sense than a person from Brazil trolling a housing bubble blog.

An American thinking about returning would not want to see his family’s health-insurance coverage?

Thinking of returning? I thought everything was sweetness and light with the high standard of living and all. What kind of a loss are you going to take on that crapshack you paid all cash for less than 5 years ago?

I’m posting this so people can go to one single thread and see that you are nothing but a fraud.

The pregnancy coverage thing is entirely political. It’s NOT for the “collective good”. That’s a bunch of BS.

Hypocrisy is at work if it’s OK for a sicker person to pay up to 3x more than a healthy person (because they are going to use more healthcare), but it’s not OK for a man with a vasectomy (or a post-menopausal/sterile woman for that matter) to NOT pay for pregnancy benefits (since he/she will definitely not get anyone/or get pregnant).

If it was all for the “collective good”, then there would be only one price for each type of insurance, regardless of a person’s propensity to consume healthcare. The problem is that the cost for the “young invincibles” would be so high that they would never sign up under a mandate system.

The required pregnancy coverage was included as part of the 2,000 pages for political reasons, not practical ones.

The pregnancy coverage thing is entirely political. It’s NOT for the “collective good”. .

It can be both. Expand your thinking.

Rio, trickle down did NOT fail. You have to stop thinking that everyone has the same goals as you do. They don’t.

Rapidly losing it Rio. If you have to blame a President that has not been in office for over twenty years to explain Obama’s failures you have really run out of excuses. Obama came in as the anti-Reagan he was going to prove that big government could fix an economy as quickly as Reagan fixed the economy. But all he has proven is that big government is the problem not the solution.

Obama has added more than six trillion dollars to the national debt and what do we have to show for it?

If you have to blame a President that has not been in office for over twenty years to explain Obama’s failures you have really run out of excuses. O

You don’t get it. We’ve been living with and implementing Reagan’s/Repub trickle down tripe for 33 years. WE DID IT. this is not theory. We’re living it.

Reagan’s kook philosophy has dominated our economic policies for 33 years. And we have declined as a nation because of it.

Reagan’s ideas FAILED America. Look around. Take your blinders off. Get real. Be objective. Be smart.

Obama has added more than six trillion dollars to the national debt

Because 33 years of following Reagan’s failed kook economic “philosophy” failed and stuck a fork in us. Got history?

The Messiah is the greatest gift to Chris Christie or Ted Cruz or whoever runs against Hillary ever. He has crystallized for generations why big government socialism isn’t the answer. They really effed up in setting something up where each and every Joe and Joan Sixpack get to see what it is costing them after having been promised a free lunch.

Maybe they can all be fed mangos.

You don’t get it. We’ve been living with and implementing Reagan’s/Repub trickle down tripe for 33 years. WE DID IT. this is not theory. We’re living it.

Just to be sure that I understood you correctly: you believe that both Clinton (8yrs) and Obama (nearly 5yrs and counting) were both Reagan acolytes?

She was calling the bubble years ago. A lone voice in the wilderness, crying out, oh god the humanity!

depression or print more cash, which would you like?

Depression?

You have your definitions loused up $hithouse Poet.

Deflation…. and yes…. deflation means lower prices.

The reserve currency status will soon be lost and that is when the “fun” begins:

http://news.goldseek.com/GATA/1385916963.php

“Lots people in Florida would likely disagree…”

Really? I’ve got a buddy who has been living in a very nice home PAYMENT FREE for the last three years. He thinks maybe this year it’ll go into foreclosure and he’ll finally have to move. He keeps the place maintained, and the bank’s minions cruise the place every so often to make sure that it is still occupied and kept up.

And see, the smart thing about this guy (mind you, I’m not saying this is RIGHT, I’m saying this is how it is at this time) is that he quickly picked up on the new rules and is following along. Those in Florida who disagree with the new rules are experiencing the misery of playing by the old rules.

Really? I’ve got a buddy who has been living in a very nice home PAYMENT FREE for the last three years.

I’ve been living “payment free” for almost 5 years and counting. I paid cash. Did I “throw my money away”?

WITH STOCK INDEXES HITTING ALL-TIME HIGHS, ARE WE FACING A CORRECTION IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS?
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By Roger Showley
12:01 a.m.Dec. 1, 2013

NO The best forecast of the next few weeks is always what we see today. We certainly will see a correction at some point, but many of the high stock prices are a result of money that otherwise would be in fixed income investments being pushed over into stocks. When quantitative easing stops — something that seems perpetually extended — and fixed income rates go back to normal, the stock market will face a huge correction. I had expected budget battles to create more havoc for the stock market, but investors seem immune to this or many of our fiscal problems on the longer term horizon.
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but he will wait five years, until his daughter turns 10, before moving his family to the U.S ??

Thats about right…Just getting ready to move to Jr. High school…Then High school with a 4.3 GPA and a 1400 SAT along with numerous awards for the arts & community service…

Then its onward to UCLA or UC Berkley (and many others) for the California subsidized advanced education…

Then its onward to UCLA or UC Berkley (and many others) for the California subsidized advanced education…

They will help supress wages and they will vote democrtas. Win Win IMO.

Ah nice. More Chinese males moving to Irvine to glare at the White males for having Chinese girlfriends.

Two points:

1) That action will move to Las Vegas, Phoenix, etc just like previous manias. “Hey I can get the same house in (fill in the blank) for 1/3 the price”…you know the story.

2) ““Education in America is very good and world class, so the first one is for education, and I think the second one is for the property appreciation,” explained Yang.”

I guess communism does not have the best education after all, I bet the same goes for so called “health care”. Love seeing man on the street evidence of this progressive lie.

I dunno, I think history repeats here. As in the Japanese. This is a weird country. Big shell game for foreign investors.

More Chinese males moving to Irvine to glare at the White males for having Chinese girlfriends.

I had so many Asian girlfriends in college, I had an indignant white coed once ask me ” do you ever date white women”. Of course, after Vermont the diversity was interesting.

“Chinese girlfriends”

The Chinese males have no one to blame but themselves and their one-child policy. How many of those Chinese women were adopted 25-30 years ago by loving Americans because China saw girls as inferior? The Chinese males can buy blow-up dolls; that’s all they deserve.

While American secondary schools and universities are a big draw for the majority of Chinese buyers in California, Yang, and many of his colleagues, are also concerned about China’s political instability, inflation, even pollution. They are paying all-cash for real estate in California, using it as a safe-haven for their wealth. ”

yep see it everyday. Another thing I’m seeing is Indian families begging for money at street corners here in Moorpark CA.

not american indians

“The Chinese males can buy blow-up dolls; that’s all they deserve.”

Just as I thought Donkey…. you’re a man-hater too.

“They are paying all-cash for real estate in California”

That should remind you of another trend that didn’t end well 30 years ago.

If you trust it.

Did you hear about how Snapfish “lost” millions of pictures? It wasn’t even an accident.

Would you keep your bitcoins in the cloud? Would you keep your tax returns there?

There’s no math there Lola.

Try again.

Rio, don’t you see??? The American health care system is just fine. The righteous either stay healthy by the grace of god, or are popular enough that if they do get sick, the loving community will pass the hat for them. The unworthy poor, the unworthy sick, and the unworthy immoral are getting their just deserts of agony and bankruptcy, as we speak.

That’s free-market karma. You can’t get better results than that.

Donkey… lola… it’s all the same.

‘The American health care system is just fine.’

Hoo boy, there’s a straw man. Who said that? I got insurance for about a year a few years ago and decided I couldn’t afford it. IMO mandated health insurance is the reason why costs are so high. More mandates will only make costs higher. Well what do ya know? That’s exactly what’s happening!

Do posters here really think the rest of us don’t remember all the crowing about how Obamacare would crash the system and force us into single payer? Well here’s the crash. Isn’t it fun?

‘The unworthy poor, the unworthy sick, and the unworthy immoral…’

Here’s an idea; have the President cancel the F-35 and he could free up enough cash to pay for insurance for all these people. But NO, can’t cut back on bombs and such. We’ve got to have it all; the worlds assassins, the worlds bunker buster, the worlds busy body, re-shaping the people of earth into some damn image. But then what to do about the poor? Oh, let’s make all the young people pay so they can have babies. And let’s legalize 20 million illegals so the hospitals have something to do with all their free time.

‘That’s free-market karma.’

Not much.

“Appeared to be” and on the border of Mexico.

This does not prove your statement:

most metal theft is done by illegal aliens and meth addicts

Middle-class destroying Reaganomics has created more “white-trash” in America than any American “socialist” program you can think of.

Just Google it and you will find article after article where illegal aliens and meth heads are identified as the leading culprits of metal thefts. Facts are stubborn things Rio. Just because you can not put two and two together does not mean other people cannot. Just because you cannot learn from what happened in the late eighties does not mean it did not happen. When Obamacare causes problems for 70 to 80% of Americans which it will, the law will be repealed or the Democrats will be swept away. That math is simple enough for even you to understand.

article after article where illegal aliens and meth heads are identified as the leading culprits of metal thefts.

And they could be right. Most metal thefts in Brazil are done by meth heads and latins too.

But I know in America that a lot of metal theft is done by Reaganomic caused recently turned white-trash. Brazil has done a good job not turning its white people into white-trash while at the same time lifting up its darker peeps. USA, not so much.

Mangoo Boi!

It probably isn’t. My point is that the cost of a private college education is irrelevant to a large majority of college kids, who get their degrees at public institutions.

I read somewhere recently that state governments typically provided funds that covered around 75% of the cost of a degree at state universities 20 or 30 years ago. Today they only provide about 50%, so the share that has to be paid by students and their families has doubled.

I have not been successful at it, but I honor those who are,

jose, what’s your current situation? I may have missed some news somewhere along the line…

Same as it ever was, since joining the blog. Divorced, no kidz. I’m OK with it, though and willing to admit I couldn’t cut the mustard.

Divorce stories scare men off. These have been discussed over cubical walls for twenty years or more.

These are not fables. These are what happened. Madison Avenue ignores the droves of single people. The droves of ruined divorced men who lost a great deal of assets. TV has kept the same attitude to the gullible masses. Many men no longer watch the idiotic shows that depict men as bumbling weaklings. Many just don’t watch TV anymore. The real culture is so different.

I had great parents. They were from the greatest generation. They raised us to be hard workers. They never even talked to us about how each of us should get married and have children. The neither encouraged nor discouraged. Its just that Marriage was something that three of us thought maybe nice to have or not, but not really necessary to live a good life. the fourth wanted it all. Family, togetherness. She refused to divorce and kept her married name even. But she’s been separated by at least eighteen years.

Look at it this way. Landfills are leaking harmful chemicals into the water supply. Every new baby means 80 years of additional waste from another human that effects our water.

Jose, you are an exception, still favoring marriage. Most divorced men I know say not to get married. Two men i know went back into the minefield.

I respect the institution of marriage too much to ever engage in it.

I have no plans to re-marry. Not that I’m negative about it, though. Just don’t have any plans. It didn’t work out for me. That’s my responsibility. It’s something you have a talent for, or you don’t. It’s something you have to be willing to make a go of. Many find it rewarding.

“Divorce stories scare men off. These have been discussed over cubical walls for twenty years or more.”

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, I’ve heard enuf of the whining myself over the years to have had a bellyful. And I know guys, including a close friend or two, who run a great game with that crap and have dined out on those stories for years. It’s like catnip to a certain kind of woman and the guys know it, lol. They start up with the violins and the gals can’t drop their panties and empty their wallets fast enuf, lmao. It’s like this: “Oh, you poor thing, what a nasty beyatch. Let me show you how much I’m NOT like that”. ROTFLMAO. Works. Every. Time.

I know one guy who runs this game sometimes concurrently with two or three women. That he’s a widower with three kids well trained into the scam makes it even more fascinating. How do I know? He ran it on sis, and she fell hook, line and stinker. Tried to warn her, but she thought she could save him. I was savaged by the entire family for not attending the “wedding”, if you could call it that. He got a nice set of wheels out of the deal, some hefty chunks of cash, some bills paid off, goodies for the kids, etc. Dang, that guy was smoooooothhhhh. Oh, well, sis is sadder but wiser now.

All I’m saying, don’t be pissin’ on those who choose to marry and raise a family and do their darndest to make it work. Only a real man is up to that task. It’s the ones who breed ‘em and can’t feed ‘em that suck.

“It’s something you have a talent for, or you don’t. It’s something you have to be willing to make a go of. Many find it rewarding.”

I’m supporting a family of four on one income, which is not an easy task in today’s economy. The basic needs cost more each year, and the teenagers have increasing needs; my daughter is driving now. My real fear are college expenses, which are less than two years away. Kiss that 401k funding good bye.

You’re one of my heroes, rms. You and Colorado and X-GS and Northeasterner and the other fathers on this blog trying to make a go of it and losing sleep over how to feed and shelter your tribe. God bless.

The numbers that I am seeing is that it was up 2.4% from last year. When you factor in inflation and population growth, that would be lower than last year. Now, you factor in the cost of running the stores an extra day and it does not look promising for retailer’s profits.

Dan, that’s what I first heard, but the latest, according to WSJ, is that it’s down 3% over last year, with Thanksgiving shopping included. I figure it must be pretty bad if the WSJ is willing to admit to 3% down.

Other publications are using the term “sluggish”.

Thanks.

Well, he ran the numbers and figures he’ll pay for a year or so, depending, and then he’ll live payment free for another three years, maybe longer this time around. He may or may not feed the squirrels for ya. But he’ll keep the lawn mowed and the landscaping cut back. At least it’ll look nice on the outside.

Looking nice on the outside is a big plus for me since I just might be the guy holding the mortgage on the place next door or maybe down the street a bit. Gotta keep the mortgage values up or else I (or rather my in-my-pocket politicians that you elected to office in my behalf - oh, BTW, thank you for that) may have to tap into the taxpayers for another bail-out in some form or another.

Another plus: If he were to leave the house vacant then the house strippers may descend and really screw the place up.

My favorite ploy (which your buddy apparantly avoided, but, hey, maybe next time?) is to get the FB to believe that he actually OWNS the house - or will own the house - and thus get him to treat the house differently than if he were just a renter, someone who is just passing through.

Another favorite ploy is to allow an FB to believe he is pulling a fast one over on me. Deep down he may be acting in my behalf but he probably thinks otherwise, which is fine with me as long this thinking of his works to my benifit.

I need to back up a bit: The comment of convincing the FB that he-does-now-or-someday-will own the house is the result of a very successful campaign me and my banker buddies dreamed up and was presented to and sold to the Great Unwashed Masses that inhabit the land by our paid-for lackeys in the MSM, by those talking heads, who relentlessly subsitute the term “homeowner” in place of the more accurate term “homebuyer”.

Makes sense…Norway is running out of Land.