December 9, 2013

The Only Thing We Are Observing Is Speculation

The News Journal reports from Florida. “Seven years ago, just before the housing bubble burst, when someone bought a house in Volusia or Flagler counties, there was a good chance they were planning on living in it. Today, investors, not families, are buying most of the existing homes. Of more than 7,600 homes sold in Volusia so far this year, less than 17 percent of them have come with homestead exemptions.”

“‘It’s the classic American story right now,’ said Maryke Guild, a real-estate agent who runs a small family brokerage in Daytona Beach. ‘It’s prime investment property,’ she said. ‘In three, four years’ time, when the market has been resaturated, those guys are going to sell at a profit, there’s no doubt.’”

“‘Existing home sales, at least in Florida, is now a meaningless indicator to track. Banks are merely off-loading losses from their balance sheets onto non-bank syndicates. About the only thing we are observing is speculation and shifting owner-occupied housing to an increase in detached rental housing stock.’ Mark Soskin, an associate professor of economics at the University of Central Florida, wrote in an email to The News-Journal.”

The Orlando Sentinel. “The slice of Orlando-area commercial real estate that drew the most foreign investment during the third quarter was condominium conversions. Half of the investment dollars that have purchased Orlando-area apartments converted to condominiums came from foreign buyers, according to a report to be released by the Bergstrom Center for Real Estate Studies at the University of Florida.”

From Miami Today. “For nearly two years now home prices have trended upward, and in October they continued their two-digit increases, the Miami Association of Realtors and local MLS system reported. But some market watchers are questioning the pace. Among them is Howard Levine, senior vice president of residential lending at Sabadell United Bank, who called the ‘rapid appreciation in value’ an ‘unsustainable incremental increase in pricing. As a lender we’re a little worried about that.’”

“‘The double-digit growth in traditional real estate sales is a sign of continued strength in Miami’s real estate market,’ said Fernando I. Martinez, 2013 Miami Association of Realtors residential president. ‘Moreover, the significant growth in cash sales shows that Miami is the destination of choice for international buyers.’”

The Atlantic Cities. “Five years after the South Florida real estate market collapsed, Miami is once again going nuts for condos. Developers are putting up 35 buildings as you read this, and another 83 are waiting in the wings, according to a report in today’s Wall Street Journal. The city also ranks third in the nation for permits issued for multi-family developments .”

“Miami developers are demanding that buyers put down at least 50 percent before closing. That’s a lot of up-front money, and the Journal says it’s coming from ‘foreign investors who typically pay cash.’ The story doesn’t tell us much more about exactly who all these foreign investors are, which is probably because one of the most persistent yet difficult-to-prove stories about Miami right now is that its condo-building renaissance is fueled by international criminals laundering money.”

“Back in August, Brian Bandell of the South Florida Business Journal attempted to prove that this is exactly what’s happening. In the course of his investigation, he found that 90 percent of Miami condo buyers in 2012 were non-Americans, 73 percent of condo resales were cash transactions, and many of these deals were held by limited liability companies, the sort that protect owners in the case of actions against the condo. Bandell writes that LLCs ‘create an easy way to launder money.’”

“Bandell built his case around a Spanish drug lord named Alvaro Lopez Tardon. Arrested in Miami in 2011, Tardon is accused of laundering roughly $26 million in cocaine proceeds by buying exotic cars and Miami condos. But of course, non-criminal wealthy people from around the world are fond of avoiding paying taxes, too.”

From Gossip Extra. “Mexican superstar singer Luis Miguel lost a bundle playing the Bal Harbour real estate game this year. A little: nearly $100,000 in four months!”

“Miami-Dade County property records show the singer bought a two-bedroom, two-bathroom condo pre-construction at the new St. Regis Resort in June. According to the records, the 43-year-old El Sol paid $1.95 million. He sold it in October when it was finished to a Philadelphia woman for $1.87 million.”

“What gives? Isn’t real estate on the rebound? ‘It was an investment property,’ said Realtor Julian Johnston, who represented Miguel. ‘He never intended to use it because he just got a bigger yacht and that’s where he stays when he comes to Miami.’”

The Sun Sentinel. “Katie Jaffe bought a two-bedroom Tamarac villa in 2004. More than a year later, her mother, convinced that the housing boom was ending, told her to sell. Jaffe didn’t listen. The $172,000 home lost about half its value in the ensuing bust, leaving Jaffe with a property she couldn’t unload. ‘It’s been a noose around my neck,’ Jaffe said.”

“The 37-year-old mother of two, who has since remarried and moved to Coral Springs, ended up renting her Tamarac villa but hated being a landlord and still lost about $200 each month. But after nine years, she finally found a buyer this fall and closed on the deal last week. The buyer paid $140,000, requiring her to kick in only $3,400 to close the deal. Jaffe was ecstatic as she left Friday’s closing. ‘I told my parents, ‘It’s over! It’s over!’ Jaffe said. ‘It’s such relief. I’m so happy to get rid of that part of my life.’”

The Chicago Tribune. “Q: I bought a home in Florida in 2005 and paid $181,000. I put $18,000 down. I was immediately offered a second mortgage to pay for some remodeling I wanted to do, so I took it. I refinanced and put another $10,000 down, leaving me pretty broke. When the real estate market collapsed in South Florida, my home value fell to about $90,000. During the recession, my job was cut to two days per week.”

“I have returned to work full time, but it’s not looking good for me. I’ve been told I am in a flood zone and owe $198,000 on a home that’s worth $100,000. I am fighting to save my home. Recently, my lender refused my temporary payment plan and I have to start over again. What advice would you give me? I am thinking of just giving up.”

“A: We continue to hear stories like yours from our readers and wonder when the effects of the Great Recession will stop hurting homeowners. The government encouraged loan modification programs that ultimately seemed to be more window dressing than real help for homeowners.”

“We don’t have great advice for you, but rather some guidance. You have to take a bird’s eye view of your situation and make a decision based on what you see. From our vantage point, you’ve told us that you have been in financial trouble now for a number of years. Your home debt is double what your home is worth and it doesn’t look like that ratio is changing any time soon. Due to recent increases in the flood insurance premiums (with the worst yet to come), your costs have probably skyrocketed.”

“Your obvious options are to work as hard as you can to get your loan expenses reduced along with your other living expenses and hope that in a couple of years your income is in balance with your expenses. Perhaps by then home values might have increased and come closer to what you have into the home. On the other hand, if you know the home’s value won’t rise enough over the next 10 years to cover what you have into the home, and if your loan and housing expenses will continue to be way higher than you should have, the financial burden may just be too great.”

“In that case, you might be better off finding less expensive housing that will allow you to reduce your financial burden. While your credit history and credit score will be hurt for some time to come, that option may be better.”




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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-09 05:48:23

Mormon Church purchases 2% of the state of Florida for half a billion dollars
Published time: November 08, 2013 22:52
Edited time: November 09, 2013 15:42

A sect of the Mormon Church is poised to become the largest private landowner in the state of Florida after spending more than half a billion dollars to purchase hundreds of thousands of acres across three counties.

Representatives from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints announced Thursday they had bought most of the real estate owned by the St. Joe development company for $565 million. Municipalities in Bay, Calhoun, Franklin, Gadsden, Gulf, Jefferson, Leon, Liberty and Wakulla counties are included in the nearly 400,000 acres of land. The land, much of which is rich with timber, is located along the Florida panhandle.

Comment by Taxpayers
2013-12-09 13:26:16

2 years late

 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-12-09 15:18:04

Interesting. I was in Utah earlier this year and received a crash course on the religion from a (non-Mormon) friend. There is a certain preparation aspect to it; Mormon families are supposed to store large quantities of food, for example, as a reserve.

And that’s a lot of money too. I would be curious to learn the extent of the real estate holdings of the Mormon Church, the Church of Scientology, and other faiths. I know that Scientology owns a substantial part of downtown Clearwater.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-12-09 17:27:06

As relegious people go, the Mormons are surprisingly sane and hard working. I wouldn’t bet against them owning most of the country before the end of the next century.

 
Comment by Resistor
2013-12-09 18:12:08

“Scientology owns a substantial part of downtown Clearwater”

Not exactly pre-positioning themselves to survive a SHTF scenario. Lol.

 
Comment by Rental Watch
2013-12-09 18:43:31

I know the Catholic Church owns a HUGE amount of real estate. They are known for being left property (donations, upon death, etc.), but never selling. Over long periods of time (decades upon decades upon decades), this adds up.

An estimate is that the world consists of 36.8 billion acres of inhabitable land, the Catholic Church is the 3rd largest landowner at 177 million acres.

#2 is the King of Saudi Arabia (owning Saudi Arabia), and #1 is Queen Elizabeth at 6.6 billion acres…seems like the people of the UK might be upset though if she ever tried to evict them…

http://www.businessinsider.com/worlds-biggest-landowners-2011-3?op=1

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 06:04:07

Story after story of people losing substantial sums on housing yet this worn out notion that a house is an investment still hangs around like a tick and flea ridden stray.

Why is that?

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-09 06:55:23

greed buddy.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2013-12-09 08:50:51

And security. Don’t forget security.

Comment by United States of Moral Hazard
2013-12-09 12:26:26

Nothing screams security like a looming foreclosure.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 13:31:56

Nothing screams security like dumping 30 years of earning into a depreciating asset like a house.

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Comment by (Still) Waiting for the Fall
2013-12-09 06:53:50

“What you perceive… is.”

Its clear that Maryk Guild knows her truth and won’t be mislaed by the facts. While a rental property in Daytona Beach might be attractive for the snowbirds the chances of renting it out year-round is small. Even less attractive are all of the 55+ communities that offer cheap housing. I think AMH’s model is seriously flawed for resort towns. They may know it, but they are certainly not sharing it with Guild… she has probably sunk a few million into rental housing herself. If she can get the masses to perceive her reality, she’ll make a bundle.

The Emporer has no clothes.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 07:00:34

AMH and Blackstone are deep $hit. Everything they bought is either empty or has negative cashflow.

 
Comment by (Still) Waiting for the Fall
2013-12-09 07:00:38

mislaed=misled
need coffee

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 07:32:07

‘It’s going to take a lot of housing to match South Florida’s population increase, especially with Miami-Dade’s increasing popularity among both domestic and international homebuyers.’

‘With 175 new residents coming to the area daily and an average household size of 2.5 people, it’ll take 70 new units per day to cover demand from new residents, said Patrick O’Connell, senior vice president of new business development for Esslinger Wooten Maxwell Realtors, extrapolating from the state’s data on population increase.’

‘The good news is there are enough projects in the works, with 41 new towers and 12,000 units planned for downtown Miami, and 23,000 units under way in Miami-Dade, Mr. O’Connell said at the Coral Gables Chamber of Commerce’s 2013 Real Estate Outlook luncheon last week.’

‘The bad news: They aren’t always accessible to local buyers.’

“A lot of the new units that we’re seeing aren’t necessarily the ones that are affordable for the residents moving here,” he later told Miami Today. “Those are being acquired more by investors and people who are just looking to place their money here. They may ultimately be rented to people who are moving here, which I think is a more realistic scenario.”

Comment by snake charmer
2013-12-09 09:53:25

Didn’t one of our all-time classic bubble quotes come from somebody associated with Esslinger Wooten Maxwell?

So much of life, including economic life, is non-linear, but for some reason almost all forecasting involves extrapolating alleged current trends into the future. Of the 175 people per day purportedly moving to Miami-Dade, maybe 10 legitimately can afford to live there. Which suggests that, in the future, a larger number of people per day will be leaving.

Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-12-09 17:28:58

Most people can barely grasp the concept of a number line. Polynomials are out of the question.

Comment by Mugsy
2013-12-09 23:04:12

Poly what?

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Comment by snake charmer
2013-12-09 20:40:29

From 2005:

“Ron Shuffield, president of Esslinger-Wooten-Maxwell Realtors says that ‘South Florida is working off of a totally new economic model than any of us have ever experienced in the past.’ He predicts that a limited supply of land coupled with demand from baby boomers and foreigners will prolong the boom indefinitely.”

Comment by Mugsy
2013-12-09 23:05:30

Ah the classics!

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Comment by Rental Watch
2013-12-09 18:55:33

It all depends on the starting point.

I recall during the boom, there were something like 50k condos under construction in Miami, when there were 10k built/sold in the prior decade. Yes, that’s a lot of supply.

What is the number of people per housing unit in Florida? About 9 million housing units as of 2010, with total population of 18.8 million…2.09 people per housing unit.

When you compare this to other states, it doesn’t seem like they are at risk of having a shortage any time soon. Perhaps certain parts are WAY overbuilt, and other parts are still underbuilt, but this article is the first time I’ve seen anyone suggest that there weren’t enough housing units in any part of Florida.

Comment by Kidbuck
2013-12-10 14:01:25

On my street in central Florida there are many homes with several families per home. Six or more adults in 1,000 sf 2 bedroom houses. My next door neighbor also had 9 full size pit bulls living with 4 adults in 900 sf. 3rd world R us. Lawns parking 4 and 5 cars are common.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 07:36:54

‘The number of foreclosure sales in Brevard County last September was 66.1 percent higher than it was in September 2012, and the number of short-sales was 58.8 percent lower, according to FloridaRealtors.’

‘Jay Parrish, an agent for Coldwell Banker, said that banks are less likely to “panic and dump” their properties than in the past.’

“Banks have greater confidence in the value of their real estate assets, so they’re behaving like disciplined sellers,” Parrish said.’

‘Michelle Daignault-Ives, a real estate broker, said that local home values would be rising faster if banks moved through foreclosure proceedings quicker. She said that the foreclosures “are still suffocating” brokers’ ability to raise property prices.’

Well Michelle, we all know it’s not your job to act as an honest broker in a real estate transaction. Rather, it’s you job to forever raise house prices. You know best, not the market or what people can afford. Onward through the fog, Michelle!

Comment by scdave
2013-12-09 07:50:22

Did you see this statement;

‘In three, four years’ time, when the market has been resaturated, those guys are going to sell at a profit, there’s no doubt.’”

Resaturated ?? What the hell does that mean…

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 07:55:42

Yeah, and why 3 or 4 years? Daytona is (was) a flipping hotbed.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-09 20:47:27

Bawn and bred in Brevard County…

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2013-12-10 00:16:00

YOU, PB?!?

Never would have guessed it…

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 08:10:42

‘The federal government announced Friday it’s lowering home loan limits in South Florida and across the country next year. For borrowers in Palm Beach and Broward counties, the maximum loan amount backed by the Federal Housing Administration will shrink to $345,000 from $423,750. The change takes effect Jan. 1.’

‘“Anything you do to make it harder for people to get loans is going to have an impact on the marketplace,” said Jim Heidisch, a broker in Pompano Beach.’

‘Roughly 650 counties nationwide will see lower limits, according to HUD, which oversees FHA. The higher limits were part of the 2008 economic stimulus package designed to help the country during the Great Recession.’

‘HUD said the lower limits were meant to take effect in 2009, but Congress delayed implementation due to the ongoing lending crisis.’

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 09:01:13

‘The FHA’s loan limits vary by county and are calculated using certain formulas that are pegged to local median home values. Loan limits are as low as $271,050 in the nation’s least expensive housing markets and as high as $625,500 in the most expensive ones. The FHA hadn’t yet issued more details on where loan limits would fall for individual counties that are in between those boundaries.’

‘Previously, the FHA could back mortgages up to 125% of the median home price for a given county. Beginning next year, the FHA will only back loans up to 115% of the area median price. That will take the loan limit for San Bernardino, Calif., for example, to $355,350 next year from $500,000 on a single-family home. Limits in Chicago will fall to $365,700 from $410,000.’

‘The FHA has experienced heavy losses as a result of loans it guaranteed as the housing downturn deepened, and earlier this year it received a $1.7 billion infusion from the U.S. Treasury, the first in the agency’s 79-year history. Officials have repeatedly boosted insurance fees charged to borrowers in a bid to replenish reserves. Fee increases have made private-mortgage insurance options more competitive, and the FHA has witnessed volumes decline this year.’

‘Officials said Friday that the loan limit declines, which had been largely anticipated, would help the agency reduce its role in the market.’

Gee, I wonder why they are losing money? And is it any wonder private lenders are hesitant to compete?

‘as low as $271,050 in the nation’s least expensive housing markets…the FHA could back mortgages up to 125% of the median home price for a given county. Beginning next year, the FHA will only back loans up to 115%’

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 09:12:37

‘Previously, the FHA could back mortgages up to 125% of the median home price for a given county. Beginning next year, the FHA will only back loans up to 115% of the area median price. That will take the loan limit for San Bernardino, Calif., for example, to $355,350 next year from $500,000 on a single-family home. Limits in Chicago will fall to $365,700 from $410,000.’

Now that’s a substantial beginning to getting these fraudulent crushing prices down to the long term trend.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 09:17:22

Plus it’s pulling the rug from under more recent HUD buyers. Good luck suckers! Hope you put down more than 3%.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 09:36:32

‘F.H.A.-backed loans cater to first-time buyers because they require as little as 3.5 percent down. Conventional loans backed by Fannie Mae require a minimum of 5 percent down, as well as private mortgage insurance.’

‘The difference in premiums, depending on the loan type, is considerable. Mark Yecies, an owner of SunQuest Funding, offered an example: On a $300,000 loan with 5 percent down, the F.H.A. would charge an upfront insurance premium of 1.74 percent, or $5,250 financed into the loan. The premium would also add $325 a month; if the borrower put down only 3.5 percent, the premium would be $337.50. In contrast, the same loan with 5 percent down and private mortgage insurance would not charge an upfront fee; the monthly premium would be $175.’

‘$5,250 financed into the loan’

You’d pay interest on that amount for 30 years, too.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 09:49:38

30 year mortgages, fees rolled into loan, insurance rolled into loan, ___ rolled into loan….

Why is it any mystery that housing is a loss?

 
Comment by Puggs
2013-12-09 13:16:08

A 30 year mortgage is a crushing sentence.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-09 20:49:53

“…the maximum loan amount backed by the Federal Housing Administration will shrink to $345,000 from $423,750. The change takes effect Jan. 1.”

Meanwhile the bubble lives on in Coastal Cali, thanks to a maximum loan limit well north of $600K.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-09 20:54:40

FHA to pull back on big mortgages
By Gregory Wallace
December 8, 2013: 12:35 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)

The Federal Housing Administration has announced plans to reduce its stake in the market, an indication it sees some signs of strength in real estate.

The agency, which insures low down-payment mortgages, is reducing the upper limits of what it will backstop in areas where home prices are high.

Starting in the new year, the biggest cap in these areas will drop to $625,500 from $729,750. Limits will be set lower in about 650 counties as a result, the agency said.

The FHA will maintain current limits in areas where home prices are lower and said the move will allow it to refocus on less wealthy homebuyers.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-09 08:12:45

‘I bought a home in Florida in 2005 and paid $181,000. I put $18,000 down. I was immediately offered a second mortgage to pay for some remodeling I wanted to do, so I took it. I refinanced and put another $10,000 down, leaving me pretty broke.’

Immediately?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-09 08:14:28

It sux that mortgages have to be repaid.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2013-12-09 09:12:31

From what I hear, they don’t…

Comment by Neuromance
2013-12-09 13:34:45

At least not by the company that originates the mortgage or the person who promises to pay it.

Honk If I’m Paying Your Mortgage

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Comment by Puggs
2013-12-09 14:42:32

That’s life in America when you can spend O.P.M.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-12-09 17:33:16

Well, at least they don’t hack us up with machetes after they take it, like they do in Africa.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-12-09 09:56:24

“Miami developers are demanding that buyers put down at least 50 percent before closing. That’s a lot of up-front money, and the Journal says it’s coming from ‘foreign investors who typically pay cash.’ The story doesn’t tell us much more about exactly who all these foreign investors are, which is probably because one of the most persistent yet difficult-to-prove stories about Miami right now is that its condo-building renaissance is fueled by international criminals laundering money.”
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Of course this is what’s happening. It’s been happening for years. But all this criminal activity props up housing so it’s all good!

 
Comment by snake charmer
2013-12-09 10:00:57

We cannot do any better than this. From yesterday’s Tampa Bay Times:

“Prospective Real Estate Agents Flood Florida Classrooms as Housing Market Swells

Hoping to capitalize on Florida’s housing recovery, tens of thousands are seeking work as real estate agents, but the vast majority fail before they get to list their first home.

More than 42,000 took the state test needed to become a Realtor this year, nearly double the count in 2009, 2010 or 2011, Florida Division of Real Estate data show.

And about 16,000 agents earned the sales associate license allowing them to sell homes and collect commissions, the most this state has seen since the peak of the housing bubble in 2005.

[T]he explosion of new agents now has some instructors recalling the hectic days of the boom, when classrooms were so full of students wanting to get in on the action that many had to sit on the floor.”

http://tinyurl.com/mdzaju4

Comment by Bad Andy
2013-12-09 11:31:49

As I’ve said, we’ve heard all of this before. I’m getting a substantial amount of prospects in my office who tell me they’re buying property but have no clue what they’re going to do with it. Code for we’re getting a government loan for a rental property. In the cash deals it’s code for we think we’re going to get rich flipping it.

Comment by Puggs
2013-12-09 13:13:24

Another Omen. It’s a sad reflection on America’s short term memory loss.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 11:44:33

“Household Formation Is Cratering

http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/08/21/2013/household-formation-cratering

This isn’t really news as household formation is already at 60 year lows….. but the declines are accelerating.

Comment by Rental Watch
2013-12-09 19:06:12

http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2013/201326/201326abs.html

There seemed to be some scathing criticisms of the article in the comments, with some of the commenters pointing to this research piece on Household formation from the Fed.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 19:52:16

And it should explain why housing demand is at 16 lows…. and falling.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-09 13:54:35

BloombergTV just had an interesting chart up…..

Demand for mortgage backed securities(i.e., mortgages)… and it collapsed early 2012.

The GovCorp manipulated “housing recovery” was indeed an illusion. Actually an inversion.

 
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