December 21, 2013

Bits Bucket for December 21, 2013

Post off-topic ideas, links, and Craigslist finds here.




RSS feed

257 Comments »

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 01:59:45

Which bubble will pop faster, harder and farther: Bitcoin or gold?

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 02:01:10

Business Issues
Could Bitcoin’s frothy venture funding dry up?
Zach Miners @zachminers
Dec 20, 2013 6:15 PM

Bitcoin: What is it, really? A digital currency? An investment? An Xbox game? For many people it’s not clear, but that hasn’t stopped venture capitalists from going gaga over it.

Since earlier this year, startups dealing in the technology known as Bitcoin have grabbed millions of dollars from some very prominent Silicon Valley VC firms. The amount totals at least some US$50 million, all for a technology that could be gone, or pushed deep underground, if financial regulators decided to ban it.

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:35:50

I guess overstock.com is going to accept bitcoin next year.

lots for sale on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-Bitcoin-BTC-0-01-Bitcoin-for-Paypal-Direct-to-your-Digital-Wallet-Today-/221338672647?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3388d01e07

.01 bitcoin for 12.99 so I guess thats 12.99 *100 =1299 for 1 bitcoin? Is that the going rate?

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2013-12-21 07:54:00

‘Is that the going rate?’

By my math, they are paying twice the market rate but people are smart:

http://bitcoinity.org/markets

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 02:02:31

Markets More: Bitcoin
Former Twitter Engineer Shreds Bitcoin’s Biggest Fans
Rob Wile
Dec. 19, 2013, 9:19 AM 17,387 32

If you think Bitcoin has devolved into a warren of overly zealous programming and profiteering, we’ve got the guy for you.

Alex Payne is a former Twitter engineer who among other things now works as an advisor for Simple.com, a personal banking startup.

In a new post on his personal blog, titled Bitcoin, Magical Thinking, and Political Ideology, Payne blasts the culture of wide-eyed optimism and do-gooder-ism that’s been used by some to justify the enormous investment — Payne calls it greed —Bitcoin has received in the past few months.

“With its influx of finance mercenaries, the Bitcoin community is a grim illustration of greed running roughshod over meaningful progress,” he writes.

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 07:50:00

Rumors of my early death are greatly exaggerated.

– Mark Twain

Dec. 20, 2013, 10:45 a.m. EST
Gold’s 13-year bull run breaks with 29% annual loss
Commentary: Gold prices fell 29% this year and 2014 may be another year of loss
By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch
Bloomberg
Gold futures prices are on track for a 29% loss in 2013, their first yearly loss in 13 years.

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — The year 2013 put the brakes on a 13-year run in gold prices, and its prospects for recovery next year don’t look great.

The metal is preparing to mark its first yearly price fall since 2000 as analysts warn of the risk for further declines in the year to come. As of Thursday’s close, gold futures prices GCG4 +0.77% have lost 29% year to date. That would be the largest annual loss for gold futures since at least 1984, according to FactSet data tracking the most active contracts.

It’s a tough reversal for investors who hung onto the precious metal in hopes the forces that increased gold prices by seven times by its peak in 2011 from late 2000 — the popularity of gold-backed exchange-traded funds, rising global wealth and worries about inflation — would stoke demand for the natural resource for decades to come.

“Gold has lost its luster as an investment vehicle in 2013,” said Jeffrey Wright, managing director at H.C. Wainwright, and the “long bull run of 13 years has been broken.”

Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:37:12

Most of the pundits and the average posters on Yahoo Finance hate gold. Same as in the early 2000s and late 1990s. They ridiculed gold buyers and give majority “thumbs down.” This is a very good contrarian indicator.

The maverick asset allocator marches to the beat of his own drum. 2014 is the year I start throwing platinum back into the mix. Every now and then 20 rounds of silver too. But primarily gold. I have a goal on the number of ounces minimum in my stash for gold. I’ll make that in 2014 or 2015, and once there, will still occasionally buy gold, but go primarily for platinum, palladium, and silver bullion.

Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:25:22

We should have some major strikes in the platinum mines in South Africa in the beginning of 2014 so that I think is a smart move.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 03:04:54

Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-12-20 21:36:54
HA. Thanks. You get a feel for it. Greed is good to some degree.

gekko was wrong. greed is never good. he lacked a better word. ambition.

take the evil out of greed and you have ambition.

greed-evil=ambition

Comment by Strawberrypicker
2013-12-21 06:24:31

Ambition can be just as bad as greed. Ambition can cause people to do evil things same as greed can. Exhibit A = The Clintons. Two more ambitious people ever made?

A more down to earth example is available in most office settings, watching the machinations of certain folks to climb.

Maybe the word or concept is drive, or grit, or sand, or hunger? It is what you need to be and keep motivated, but there is always the chance too much can be ruinous.

Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:01:58

you gave a good example. most people would call the clintons ‘ambitious’. i would say that striving for power for the sake of power is just evil. in other words, i would just call them evil. the word ‘ambitious’ is sometimes used to attempt to justify or hide evil. i think ambition implies achievement through honest work. and backroom deals aren’t honest work.

nevertheless, you make a good point.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:32:14

“i would say that striving for power for the sake of power is just evil.”

Or maybe it just who they are. If a system is set up to reward those who strive for power then you will end up with a system run by those who strive for power.

Those who are not totally driven to pay the price will be selected out. Which, IMO, is where we are.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:35:14

The personal tolls taken on these power strivers is tremendous, nevertheless they will keep on striving for more and more power because they have no other choice:

This is who they are.

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:38:10

If a system is set up to reward those who strive for power then you will end up with a system run by those who strive for power.

i agree, but it wasn’t always this way. it’s been perverted through the years.

“you have a republic, if you can keep it.”

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:41:17

This is who they are.

they are evil.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 08:05:56

“they are evil.”

But they are cleverly evil.

Those who are evil but not cleverly so end up in prison or maybe dead.

Those who are cleverly evil end up in positions of power and authority.

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 08:09:26

we’re on a roll combo. we agree again.

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 16:49:04

“Only those who decline to scramble up the career ladder are interesting as human beings. Nothing is more boring than a man with a career.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

 
 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 07:34:19

honest

People who strive for more of anything, money, power, strength, happiness, but do it in an honest way, god love them.

Our society has a problem with honesty. The internet has made this much worse, but in a way, also much better. You can do a lot of fact checking. You can also scroll through page after page of Amazon reviews by shills. I understand that all of these big online retailers who have their sites overrun by shill reviews are working desperately on honesty algorithms to separate the true reviews from the shills. Not sure it can ever be done in an anonymous internet world.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:43:42

“Our society has a problem with honesty.”

This is because honesty is not rewarded.

In the agrarian days honesty WAS rewarded because in those days people were bonded to the land and as such they were not mobile. If one is bonded to the land and is not mobile then his word becomes his bond because if it gets out that his word is not his bond he is hosed because he can’t move someplace else and start over.

But today people are not bonded to the land and so they can always move someplace else and start over if if gets out that they are liars. And this is what they do.

So you end up with a society filled with a bunch of liars who move around a lot and move up a lot.

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:45:32

i think we need both honesty and honor. we need to return to standard morality.. somehow.

seems we were all much better off when we had ‘prudish behavior’. can’t believe i just said that. :)

 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 08:02:45

We have the technology for a working lie detector that would be 95-98% accurate. That’s about as good as your are going to get in the affairs of man. It would revolutionize society. It will not be implemented.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 08:10:24

But if it is 95-98% accurate then there is a few percentage of people who will be able to slip buy - and it will probably be the most psychopathic of the test-takers who will slip by.

And if this were so then you would end up with the least psychopathic people being selected out and the most psychopathic people being selected in.

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2013-12-21 09:13:16

‘ and it will probably be the most psychopathic of the test-takers who will slip by. ‘

Does a psychopath recognize another psychopath? Have a psychopath on staff, almost like a drug-sniffing dog.

 
Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 10:25:59

Samurai were not allowed to own land.

 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 13:44:21

Each time you take it there is a 95-98 chance of being caught lying. They would pretty quickly be found out.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2013-12-21 17:56:02

I get the feeling with those two that they want the power so they can save the world. What worries me is that they believe that they know HOW to save the world.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 04:16:17

Is today the day?

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 06:09:24

Yesterday today was tomorrow.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:06:45

Today is yesterday’s tomorrow.

 
 
 
Comment by NH Hick
2013-12-21 05:16:41

The regime leader is off on another taxpayer financed trip to Hawaii. It must be nice living the 1%er life.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/13/obama-and-family-holiday-hawaii-again/

Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 06:37:50

Yeah, no kidding.

They should have gone Greyhound like the Bushes and Reagan always did.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 06:51:44

lolz

 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 06:59:55

Or the Clintons.

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 15:28:31

Maybe they should show they really believe in global warming and not go on vacation and reduce their carbon footprint?

 
 
Comment by jose canusi
2013-12-21 08:14:27

I found a post on another blog that sort of sums up the year end press conference conducted by the O-man. This is a paraphrase, but it went something like this:

“I’m going to Hawaii and you’re not, nanny, nanny, boo-boo, Obamacare is awesome and you’re a bunch of losers.”

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
 
 
Comment by me to a "T"
2013-12-21 08:18:06

Yes, it’s a very nice life. Some times it is accomplished by striving, attaining, accessing, striving again, by honest peoples.

Sometimes it’s obtained by fame because many of you can’t help yourselves and thrust the wealth/fame upon the farm animals we call pro athletes, and the jesters we call duck dynasty, and the pretty person you voted for.

Either they strived and accomplished, or the masses put them there…and except for the self made man that strived, you all keep them there.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 05:30:00

realtors are liars

Comment by Jingle Male
2013-12-21 07:04:21

generalizations are inept. redundancy is tiring.

Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:08:50

hello realtor

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:30:16

jingle male has enough equity to retire since he got off the fence and made sh@t happen the past 5 years instead of talking about how horrible things were.Got equity?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 10:04:36

Falling housing prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels is horrible?

Pick yourself up off the floor and cheer up Poet.

Oh yeah…. JingleBalls was proven a fraud…. just like “rio”. ;)

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 10:21:45

That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee.

Enjoy your losses.

 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2013-12-21 09:59:02

redundancy is tiring ??

Its more than tiring…Its childishness…

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 10:09:52

What happened to ignore? :clapping:

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2013-12-21 05:33:45

Who Owns Your Congressman?

Politics is big business, with millions spent each year trying to sway the electoral process. Which industries, businesses and outside interests have donated the most to which candidates?

How Much Money Are We Talking About?

In short, lots. Here’s a look at what candidates in 2013-2014 have raised for this election cycle:
House
Total $289,091,174*
Democrats $125,189,570
Republicans $163,856,570

Senate
Total $152,410,147*
Democrats $81,976,934
Republicans $70,387,430
* Independents not included in party breakdowns
Their combined fundraising is $441,501,321. That’s enough to …
… pay the average heating bills of every resident of the District of Columbia
… pay the average co-pays for 22 million doctor visits
… pay the average grocery bill for 400,000 four-person families

Following the Money
Where does all this cash come from? Here’s a look at which industries have given the most to which parties:

Industry Amount D R
Retired $38,883,345 47% 46%
Securities & investment $32,988,928 31% 55%
Lawyers& law firms $24,522,332 68% 28%
Real estate $18,005,439 41% 53%
Health professionals $16,335,505 39% 55%
Candidate committees $16,214,155 45% 55%
Insurance $11,989,733 38% 62%
Leadership PACs $11,491,828 43% 57%
Oil & gas $9,895,507 12% 86%
Business services $8,482,996 48% 44%
TV/movies/music $8,374,264 63% 34%
Lobbyists $8,016,021 49% 50%
Pharmaceutical/health $7,875,015 40% 60%
Public sector unions $7,647,169 52% 5%
Manufacturing/distribution $7,298,056 30% 68%
Building trade unions $6,976,125 57% 11%
Commercial banks $6,887,181 30% 70%
Computers/Internet $6,821,386 53% 36%
Electric utilities $6,631,879 36% 64%

Here’s a look at the 20 businesses and organizations that contributed the most for lobbying efforts in 2013:
Business/organization Lobbying total

U.S. Chamber of Commerce $51,955,000
National Assn. of Realtors $25,943,435
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $17,076,780
American Hospital Assn. $14,106,478
Comcast Corp. $13,950,000
General Electric $13,840,000
Pharmaceutical Rsrch & Mfrs of America $13,802,500
American Medical Assn. $13,775,000
National Cable & Telecommunications Assn. $13,270,000
Northrop Grumman $13,200,000
AT&T Inc. $12,300,000
Boeing Co. $11,460,000
Google Inc. $11,460,000
Lockheed Martin $11,117,466
National Assn. of Broadcasters $10,650,000
Exxon Mobil $10,630,000
Verizon Communications $10,143,000
United Technologies $9,980,373
American Chemistry Council $9,490,000
Grocery Manufacturers Assn. $9,350,000

SOURCES:
http://www.opensecrets.org/
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/
http://crp.org

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/owns-congressman.html - 57k -

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 06:26:21

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/owns-congressman.html

Wait a second……

Look who is #2 on the Corrupting Bribery List… Realtors.

Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 06:42:19

If used houses were such a great “investment” why do the NAR-scum need to spend $26 million a year pimping Congress?

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2013-12-21 06:32:09

Look at the NAR; they are number two.

I love it! The NAR spends millions of dollars in their efforts to convince marks to transform into FBs so as to get a cut of this transformation and in order for them to to this they have to bring the mark to me whereby I also get a cut of the transformation.

The NAR folks work and spend and the lenders kick back and reap.

Comment by Jingle Male
2013-12-21 07:06:10

$200/year per agent…..

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:12:52

realtors are liars

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 06:55:50

Here are the Top 22 All-Time Donors, 1989-2012

8 out of the top 10 are unions who give nearly 100% to democrats.

Who controls the money controls the political process.

FYI - Business in the top 22 are nearly evenly split giving to democrats and republican.

1 ActBlue $93,698,786 99% 0%
2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $61,147,604 81% 1%
3 AT&T Inc $56,912,532 41% 57%
4 National Education Assn $53,978,306 62% 4%
5 National Assn of Realtors $51,392,552 44% 47%
6 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,911,220 92% 1%
7 Goldman Sachs $44,797,483 53% 44%
8 United Auto Workers $41,950,358 71% 0%
9 Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,257,871 74% 9%
10 Service Employees International Union $38,065,365 84% 2%
11 Laborers Union $37,580,060 85% 6%
12 American Federation of Teachers $36,833,725 89% 0%
13 Communications Workers of America $36,305,998 87% 0%
14 Teamsters Union $36,272,585 88% 5%
15 JPMorgan Chase & Co $34,307,217 48% 51%
16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,919,259 86% 0%
17 United Parcel Service $32,202,244 35% 64%
18 Citigroup Inc $32,141,122 48% 50%
19 National Auto Dealers Assn $31,800,260 31% 68%
20 Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,635,097 98% 1%
21 American Bankers Assn $31,399,972 36% 63%
22 AFL-CIO $31,302,477 62% 3%

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?order=A

Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 07:07:30

Hard to believe sad panda party is equally bankrolled by banking industry.

 
Comment by measton
2013-12-21 20:14:32

When a bunch of workers pool their money it’s counted as one donation source.

When a bunch of corporations pool their money they count as individual donors.

ie

Your statistic means diddly squat.

The proof is in the pudding. Unions are loosing power and influence daily while corporations are running the government.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 20:23:43

What does that have to do with rigged prices and markets?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-12-21 11:32:23

When you combine the four medical-industrial complex groups, they are #1

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2013-12-21 05:52:08

Manipulations Rule The Markets

Paul Craig Roberts
Infowars.com
December 21, 2013

The Federal Reserve’s announcement on December 18 that beginning in January its monthly purchases of mortgage-backed financial instruments and US Treasury bonds would each be cut by $5 billion is puzzling, as is the financial press’s account of the market’s response.

The Federal Reserve conveys a contradictory message. The Fed says that improvements in employment and the economy justify cutting back on bond purchases. Yet the Fed emphasizes that it is maintaining its commitment to record low interest rates “well past the time that the unemployment rate declines below 6.5 percent, especially if projected inflation continues to run below the [Open Market] Committee’s 2 percent longer-run goal. When the Committee decides to begin to remove policy accommodation it will take a balanced approach consistent with its longer-run goals of maximum employment and inflation of 2 percent.”

The last sentence in the quote states that the Fed does not regard its announced reduction in bond purchases as less accommodation or as a move toward tightening. In other words, the Fed is saying that tapering does not mean less accommodation.

To put it another way, the Fed is saying that the economy is doing well enough not to require the same amount of monthly bond purchases, but is not doing well enough to stand any change in the near zero nominal federal funds rate. The implication is that the Fed either does not think that a reduction in purchases will result in a rise in long-term interest rates or that such a rise will not derail the economy as long as the Fed keeps short-term rates at or near zero. If the $10 billion decrease in monthly bond demand results in higher long-term interest rates, what good does it do to keep the federal funds rate at zero? If the $10 billion monthly bond purchases were not needed as part of the accommodation policy, why was the Fed purchasing them?

Possibly the Fed thinks that Congress has taken steps to reduce the federal deficit, which would result in a reduced supply of bonds to match the Fed’s reduced demand for bonds, but the Fed’s statement makes no reference to federal deficit reduction, which is probably a smoke and mirrors change instead of a real one.

Moreover, the Fed’s outlook for the economy is mixed. The Fed says that “recovery in the housing sector slowed somewhat in recent months,” so why reduce purchases of mortgage-backed financial instruments? And surely the Fed is aware that the U3 unemployment rate has declined because discouraged workers who cannot find a job are not counted among the unemployed. As all measures show, real median family income and real per capita income are lower today than in 2007, and real consumer credit is not growing except for student loans. Without rising aggregate demand to drive the economy, why does the Fed see a recovery instead of faulty statistical measures that do not accurately portray economic reality?

The financial media’s reporting on the stock market’s response to the Fed’s announcement has its own puzzles. I have not seen the entirety of the news reports, but what I have seen says that the equity market rose because investors interpreted the reduction in bond purchases as signaling the Fed’s vote of confidence in the economy.

Previously when the Fed announced that it might cut back its bond purchases, the markets dropped sharply, and the Fed quickly back-tracked. Everyone knows that the high prices in the bond and equity markets are the result of the liquidity pouring out of the Fed and that a curtailment of this liquidity will adversely affect prices. So why this time did prices go up instead of down?

Pam Martens points out that there is evidence of manipulation. http://wallstreetonparade.com

As market data indicates, the initial response to the Fed’s announcement was a sharp move down as market participants sold stocks on the Fed’s announcement (see the chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average in Pam Martens’ article). But within a few minutes the market changed course and rose on panic short-covering just as sharply as it had fallen.

The question is: who provided the upward push that panicked the shorts and sent the market up 292 points? Was it the plunge protection team and the NY Fed’s trading floor? Was it the large banks acting in concert with the Fed? It is hard to avoid the conclusion that this was an orchestrated event that forestalled a market decline.

Short selling in the paper gold futures market has been used to protect the US dollar’s value from being knocked down by the Fed’s Quantitative Easing. Following the Fed’s December 18 announcement, another big takedown of gold was launched.

William Kaye had predicted the takedown in advance. He noticed that the ETF gold trust GLD experienced a sudden loss in gold holdings as shares were redeemed for gold. Only the large Fed-dependent bullion banks can redeem shares for gold. Possession of physical gold allows the short-selling that drives down the gold price to be covered.
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/12/17_Absolutely_Shocking_Developments_In_The_War_On_Gold.html

Bloomberg reports that gold is exiting the West. It has been shipped out to Asia. You explain, dear reader, how the price of gold can fall so much in the West while the supply of gold dries up.http://www.bloomberg.com/video/what-s-happening-to-all-the-gold-d33u1c23SDqA0p0e~9_INw.html

In a few days prior to the Fed’s tapering announcement, GLD was drained of 25 tonnes of gold by primary bullion banks, JP MorganChase, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, and Citicorp. As Dave Kranzler pointed out to me, these banks happen to be the biggest players in the OTC derivatives market for precious metals. HSBC is the custodian of the GLD gold and JPM is the custodian of SLV silver. HSBC and JPM are two of the three primary custodial and market-making banks for Comex gold and silver.

The conclusion is obvious. QE helps the big banks, and manipulation of the gold price downward protects the US dollar from its dilution by QE.

The Fed’s reduced bond purchasing announced for the New Year still leaves the Fed purchasing $900 billion worth of bonds annually, so obviously the Fed does not think that everything is OK. Moreover, the Fed has other ways to make up for the $120 billion annual reduction, assuming the reduction actually occurs. The prospect for tapering is dependent on the US economy not sinking deeper into depression. Massaged “success indicators” such as the unemployment rate, which is understated by not counting discouraged workers, and the GDP growth rate, which is overstated with an understated measure of inflation, do not a recovery make. No other economic indicator shows recovery.

Until a whistleblower speaks, we cannot know for certain, but my conclusion is that the Fed understands that it must protect the dollar from being driven down by QE and that the orchestrated takedowns of gold are part of protecting the dollar’s value, and perhaps also the cutback in QE is a part of the protection by signaling an end of money creation. The Fed also understands that it cannot forever drive down the gold price and that it cannot forever pour liquidity into stock and bond markets. To retreat from this policy without crashing the edifice requires successful orchestrations. Therefore, we are likely to experience more of them in the days to come.

Allegedly, the US has free capital markets, and globalism is bringing free capital markets to the world. In actual fact, US capital markets are so manipulated–and now by the authorities themselves–that manipulation cannot stop without a crash.

What American “democratic capitalism” has brought to the world is manipulated financial markets and the absence of democracy. How long this game can play depends on the outside world.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. His latest book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West is now available.

This article was posted: Saturday, December 21, 2013 at 4:43 am

Tags: economics

Comment by GetStucco
2013-12-21 12:40:34

You can safely ignore the gloomsters who penned the above anti-market screed. Just like real estate, the stock market always goes up. If you don’t buy now, you will definitely be priced out forever.

 
 
Comment by polly
2013-12-21 06:05:09

The Shortest Day
by Susan Cooper

And so the Shortest Day came and the year died
And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world
Came people singing, dancing,
To drive the dark away.
They lighted candles in the winter trees;
They hung their homes with evergreen;
They burned beseeching fires all night long
To keep the year alive.
And when the new year’s sunshine blazed awake
They shouted, revelling.
Through all the frosty ages you can hear them
Echoing behind us - listen!
All the long echoes, sing the same delight,
This Shortest Day,
As promise wakens in the sleeping land:
They carol, feast, give thanks,
And dearly love their friends,
And hope for peace.
And now so do we, here, now,
This year and every year.

Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 06:11:53

Today kicks off the season for the frostbite fetishists I know. As of now there are 5 people who have completed the winter checklist. One was Aron Ralston who the film 127 Hours is about. Another was a friend who died in June from a fall near Aspen.

http://www.summitpost.org/colorado-14ers-in-winter/337648

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:00:09

Kinky.

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2013-12-21 06:19:45

“They carol, feast, give thanks,
And dearly love their friends,
And hope for peace.”

And they spend money that they do not have.
And they keep on doing this because they never learn.
And for this gift to me from my fellow man,
A gift that keeps on giving, a gift that forever keeps on giving,
I am most grateful.

 
 
Comment by phony scandals
2013-12-21 06:24:07

Harry Reid: Government Needs to Steal More from the Middle Class

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
December 20, 2013

Corporatists and banksters controlling government and the money supply is the problem. Illustration: David Dees
Senate Majority Leader, Nevada Democrat Harry Reid, wants the government to steal more money from the middle class and dole it out to the victims of the Federal Reserve created economic depression.

“Even as the economy creates jobs, too many Americans find themselves on the sidelines watching as the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle class are getting squeezed and squeezed,” Reid said on Thursday.

“There is no greater challenge this country has than income inequality. And we must do something about it.”

Reid’s solution to income inequality is to tax and borrow more and give money to the unemployed. Democrats like to tell you this money will come from the super rich. But they know the super rich don’t pay taxes. From offshore tax havens to shell games, foundations and equity swaps, the rich rarely if ever pay taxes. Large multinational corporations with teams of lawyers don’t pay taxes either. GE, for instance, avoided paying taxes by socking $108 billion overseas.

So when Harry Reid talks about redistributing more money to the unemployed, he’s talking about taxing the middle class. He’s also talking about taxing the small businessman who can’t afford fancy tax lawyers and does not have the option to move money to the Cayman Islands or Lichtenstein.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2013-12-21 07:02:15

“Reid’s solution to income inequality is to tax and borrow more and give money to the unemployed.”

The efficient parasite does not kill the host. If the parasite is to extract nutrients from the host then the host must have enough nutrients to spare.

The host does not have to be kept prosperous, he only has to be kept alive.

 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 07:12:26

You know what helps with income inequality? Jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs. All this manipulation is to distract and camouflage the lack of jobs.
All this talk of income inequality is futile, especially now. If you don’t have a job, you don’t even have an income to be unequal.

Availability of jobs should determine what housing prices should be in any neighborhood.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:21:28

Nonsense.

The median wage doesn’t meet the income necessary to buy the median house because housing prices are grossly inflated.

Drop the username you’re hiding behind.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:23:08

“Availability of jobs should determine what housing prices should be in any neighborhood.”

Maybe so, but it’s the availability of MONEY that holds sway.

In an ideal world EARNED MONEY would be the deciding factor, but in the current world we now live in BORROWED MONEY is what rules.

Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:29:54

In an ideal world EARNED MONEY would be the deciding factor, but in the current world we now live in BORROWED MONEY is what rules.

we weren’t having loan problems in the 60’s. i think it’s BADLY BORROWED MONEY that’s the problem.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:51:01

Up until recently it was thought, when it came to such things a real estate, that there was no such thing as badly borrowed money. Any money that was borrowed in order to buy real estate was a sound investment because it was thought that real estate prices would NEVER go down but instead would continue to rise up - forever. And if the price of something rises up forever then one can never pay too high a price for it; There is no such thing as too high a price for anything that has a price that rises forever.

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:54:51

totally agree combo.

 
 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 07:56:33

“There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU… WILL… ATONE! “. From the movie Network.

Remember Howard Beale was assassinated.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-21 06:26:16

Come on Obama, cancel Obamacare; I dare ya!

‘It’s hard to come up with new ways to describe the Obama administration’s improvisational approach to the Affordable Care Act’s troubled health insurance exchanges. But last night, the White House made its most consequential announcement yet.’

‘Obama Repeals ObamaCare’

It’s not even 2014 yet. Was this the fastest policy fail in history?

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 06:38:20

what a failure this program has been. Do u think he is blowing hilary’s run @ the house?

 
Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:00:52

obama has by his own personal mandate change the ACA 14 times so far.

Undoubtedly he will do more changes to the ACA in the future.

The ACA does not allow the president to change or delay the ACA Law. It does not allow a president an improvisational approach to implementing or changing the ACA.

Either the law is the law or it means nothing.

Obama administration’s improvisational approach to the Affordable Care Act’s

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:06:18

When the President does it, that means that it’s not illegal.

Richard M. Nixon

Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:28:24

Obama says he is not a crook.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 16:17:40

Obama is the biggest crook of all. I don’t think in the history of this country so much bull$hit had been uttered by just one guy.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Blackhawk
2013-12-21 08:14:01

So what. Nothing was changed, just delayed.

Millions will have their medical coverages cancelled because of ACA. Those people will need medical coverage someday and the Prez hasn’t done anything to change that fact.

This is not going to get better and soon the Demos will be clamoring to repeal the entire thing. In addition, this law will teach the millennial generation to hate anything that’s run by the government.

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:09:06

Yes, going back two years ago to when insurance companies charged women more than men. Who doesn’t what that back?

Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:31:25

Did they do it because they wanted to be mean to women or because women used more healthcare? Insurance based on your risk of using the insurance.Yes I would like that back.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by rms
2013-12-21 16:42:25

“Did they do it because –snip– women used more healthcare? Insurance based on your risk of using the insurance.”

+1 You’re correct; it’s not really insurance. You can’t willfully exclude expensive major health conditions like obesity, smoking, etc., and still call it insurance.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-21 06:33:06

‘A member of the White House review panel on NSA surveillance said he was “absolutely” surprised when he discovered the agency’s lack of evidence that the bulk collection of telephone call records had thwarted any terrorist attacks.’

“It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”

‘While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”

“We found none,” said Stone.’

Of course it didn’t stop any attacks. That’s not what it was designed for.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 06:42:52

US citizens are slaves to control and indenture. Each of us represents debt and are bought and sold globally on financial markets under the ruse of “investment”.

Is it any mystery how the US has the illusion of solvency?

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 06:46:19

The attacks that might have been stopped were attacks by lawmakers on the NSA.

If the NSA needs to get the goods on someone - anyone - who acts as a threat to the NSA’s existence then all the NSA folks have to do is push the “play” button.

Even J. Edgar would be envious.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-21 06:53:14

‘were attacks by lawmakers on the NSA’

It’s worse than that. The other day Snowden revealed the NSA spied on an EU regulator that was investigating Google. We can sit here and pretend there isn’t a corporate police state being constructed around us, but it doesn’t change the facts. Jeebus, they are recording what I am typing right now! They use programs to see how all of us on this blog might be associated, without any evidence that we’ve done anything wrong.

Luckily, it’s coming apart. If the public can push hard enough, it’ll be torn down.

Comment by Muggy
2013-12-21 08:06:03

“They use programs to see how all of us on this blog might be associated”

Speaking of which, anything from Fxr yet?
Palmy, you were joking, but we haven’t heard from him since.

Dear NSA, I just want cheap house.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by jose canusi
2013-12-21 08:56:03

“Speaking of which, anything from Fxr yet?
Palmy, you were joking, but we haven’t heard from him since.”

Yeah, I was definitely joking, but yesterday I was thinking that he hasn’t posted on the blog in a while. Anyone know how to find out when his last post was?

OTOH, Ben would have been contacted by now if Fxr was a “person of interest”.

 
Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:12:06

Unless Ben has been replaced by an NSA artificial intelligence program.

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:50:46

Nah, they wouldn’t have contacted Ben. Then someone would know something about why Fxr disappeared. I think they just shoot people now.

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 16:54:23

Unless Ben has been replaced by an NSA artificial intelligence program.
Good point. How do we even know Ben has been making those recent entries signed with his name?

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:13:39

“If the public can push hard enough, it’ll be torn down.”

I haven’t followed the news on NSA monitoring too closely, but I’d guess that Constitutional law scholars will eventually concur that it’s unconstitutional.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by rms
2013-12-21 18:38:38

“I haven’t followed the news on NSA monitoring too closely, but I’d guess that Constitutional law scholars will eventually concur that it’s unconstitutional.”

The supreme court is roughly 40% god’s children. Fingers crossed.

 
Comment by Jacob
2013-12-22 00:42:35

>The supreme court is roughly 40% god’s children.

That’s a brazen and vicious attack.

 
 
 
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 06:54:52

I agree NSA has dirt on everybody in position in power….hence the status quo is keep on gaining in times like this.

When they start to eat their own, that would be spectacular to see….whenever it may be.

Comment by Muggy
2013-12-21 08:10:49

“NSA has dirt on everybody in position in power”

From what I understand, they have pretty much recorded everything in the last decade, and can plug in your digits and get everything on you. It’s not just about people in power, it’s about whoever they hit “enter” on. Wasn’t there a story about a guy looking up and ex?

Dear NSA, please grant me a Christmas wish: can you locate the woman who rear-ended me last night? Thanks!

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 09:22:55

“Dear NSA, please grant me a Christmas wish: can you locate the woman who rear-ended me last night? Thanks!”

Sorry, we are too busy rear-ending the rest of America.

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2013-12-21 10:09:08

‘From what I understand, they have pretty much recorded everything in the last decade, and can plug in your digits and get everything on you.’

Midget porn too? Uh, a friend asked me to ask that.

 
Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:13:47

The NSA porn stash must be incredible.

 
Comment by Muggy
2013-12-21 13:57:29

“The NSA porn stash must be incredible.”

Man, they must have the coupon codes for everything. My wife would kill for that power.

 
Comment by NSA Helpline
2013-12-21 14:11:58

Man, they must have the coupon codes for everything. My wife would kill for that power.

You are married? So it was your car you were talking about and not a transgender woman? You want her to pay for the damages and don’t want a second date? We sure misread this one. Just after we got a fix on a Lola in Rio using our Brazilian phone taps.

 
Comment by rms
2013-12-21 16:45:31

“The NSA porn stash must be incredible.”

+1 aka the “honeypot” in network security circles.

 
 
 
 
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 06:52:15

Hard to believe they spent that kind of money to spy on their wives, girlfriends and exes.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:04:39

Yeah? Well it’s not as if it was their own money that was being spent.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:06:46

A life of “Interesting Times” could very easily be inflicted on someone in power who just might decide to question NSA’s funding.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:11:53

Remember: The money being spent for National Security is an investment in the nations’s future.

IOW, it’s for our children.

If you are against the NSA then you are against national Defense.

You are against the nation’s future, you are against our children.

If you question any of this then the terrorists win.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 07:14:39

In order to save freedom we may have to act to destroy it.

 
Comment by NSA Helpline
2013-12-21 14:00:29

A life of “Interesting Times” could very easily be inflicted on someone in power who just might decide to question NSA’s funding.

It is how J. Edgar Hoover stayed in office so long. We have learned well. We know who is rear ending whom and we have the video.

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 16:59:04

A non-accidental shortening of life of “Interesting Times” could very easily be inflicted on someone in power who just might decide to question NSA’s funding effectively acted to limit NSA’s destructive activities.

 
 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:15:26

Small wonder Uncle Sam is running low on spare change.

 
 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:10:50

“That’s not what it was designed for.”

Would ‘political intimidation’ be a more apt description of the purpose of NSA monitoring of law-abiding U.S. citizens’ telephone conversations and email correspondence?

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 06:53:15

Hope and Change

“Massachusetts State Police seized 1,250 bags of heroin Friday morning, many labeled “Obamacare.”

Two troopers found the bags during a traffic stop in Hatfield, Mass., according to a post on the agency’s Facebook page.

Troopers Joe Petty and Dave Stucenski, assisted by a K9 named Frankie, took four people into custody. They have been charged with narcotics violations.”

http://www.denverpost.com/obamacare/ci_24766798/somebody-decided-stamp-obamacare-1-250-bags-heroin

Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 06:57:42

“The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.” Frank Zappa

Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 07:18:43

Get to work Mr. Chairman.
–Chuck E Cheese

 
Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:17:19

“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness.

Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs.

In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual’s internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.”

― Theodore Kaczynski

 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:40:52

“The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.” Frank Zappa

Yup. Two of the people I really miss: Frank Zappa and George Carlin. At least Penn Jillette is around. Another good one was H.L. Mencken.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:46:40

How is Frankie doing? Did they let him have some?

 
 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 06:55:10

“We are a nation of laws and not of men.” John Adams.

Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:05:21

Unless you are a “hope and change” president.

Then you can ignore:
DOMA
Illegal immigrants
Banker fraud
Wall Street fraud
John Corzine
Implementing the ACA
Spying on your citizens with warrants or cause
etc.

It is for the children…

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:03:15

“Remember… a house is a depreciating asset and loss, ALWAYS.”

Exactly.

When you see a house, it represents debt and loss.

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:27:21

r u excited to get more financial advice from barney frank on cnbc?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:33:14

Good morning $hitHouse Poet….

What are your losses up to today?

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:37:55

equity getting larger buddy. u still wishing you had some?

your still broke thinkn about how you got screwed over right?

how much did you tip the landlord?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:49:06

And your losses are magnified because you financed a depreciating asset.

 
Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 08:08:20

my asset is appreciating sir. I take care of my stuff. hows that depreciating yugo treating you?

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 08:11:30

Unless your asset is cash, it’s depreciating.

 
Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 09:01:36

your cash is depreciating the fastest.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 09:05:06

Not true poet. That would be your house and car. Both depreciate rapidly.

 
Comment by reedalberger
2013-12-21 10:50:46

You have to sell to actually capture any gains, and you do have to factor in the upkeep and the decay over time of your structure.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:05:01

Hope and Change

“The Senate may be drenched in dysfunction, but it still just gave President Barack Obama a much-appreciated Christmas present: a whole bunch of freshly confirmed agency appointees.

Thanks to Harry Reid’s filibuster changes, a spate of Obama appointees are headed to many of the vital departments involved in implementing the regulations, policy and executive functions that Congress won’t be touching next year — and they won’t have to worry about Senate Republicans anymore.

New people headed into their jobs for the new year will handle everything from Middle East diplomacy to immigration, taxes, homeland security, housing and military sexual assault. With Congress unlikely to move much of the president’s domestic agenda, the appointees will play a big part in Obama’s 2014 executive and regulatory actions aimed at helping him build out a domestic and foreign policy legacy.

And that has Republicans worried that Obama will circumvent Congress and allow his new choices to be essentially unaccountable to Capitol Hill now that the GOP has even less leverage during the confirmation process.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/obama-appointees-2014-policy-101397.html?hp=t1

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:20:54

Umm…the Dems have a majority in the Senate…what are you on about?

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:11:25

When hope and change meets reality….

‘Almost Orwellian’ — why Judge Leon is right about massive NSA spying program
FoxNews | December 19, 2013 | Andrew P. Napolitano

“Almost Orwellian” — that’s the description a federal judge gave earlier this week to the massive spying by the National Security Agency (NSA) on virtually all 380 million cellphones in the United States.

In the first meaningful and jurisdictionally grounded judicial review of the NSA cellphone spying program, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, a George W. Bush appointee sitting in Washington, D.C., ruled that the scheme of asking a secret judge on a secret court for a general warrant to spy on all American cellphone users without providing evidence of probable cause of criminal behavior against any of them is unconstitutional because it directly violates the Fourth Amendment.

Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:13:43

NSA program stopped no terror attacks, says White House panel member
NBC news investigations | DEC 20 2013 | Michael Isikoff

A member of the White House review panel on NSA surveillance said he was “absolutely” surprised when he discovered the agency’s lack of evidence that the bulk collection of telephone call records had thwarted any terrorist attacks.

“It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”

While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”

“We found none,” said Stone.

The panel’s findings echoed that of U.S. Judge Richard Leon, who in a ruling this week found the bulk collection program to be unconstitutional. Leon said that government officials were unable to cite “a single instance in which analysis of the NSA’s bulk collection metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack, or otherwise aided the Government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive in nature.”…

Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 07:31:35

Didn’t most on right support the creation of this monstrosity to begin with? Are you unhappy with the law or are you unhappy that we aren’t harassing more moosleems?

Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:44:01

Didn’t most on right support the creation of this monstrosity to begin with?

No

Are you unhappy with the law or are you unhappy that we aren’t harassing more moosleems?

Why is it for leftists when obama acts WORSE than Bush they make not a peep?

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 07:49:40

When is the right going to accept its own culpability before blaming everything on Obama?

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 07:59:55

When is the right going to accept its own culpability before blaming everything on Obama?

the establishment GOP isn’t ‘the right’. they are quite left wing.

 
Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 08:06:21

the establishment GOP isn’t ‘the right’. they are quite left wing.

BS. Let’s talk of 2banana, Palin, Ted Cruz….I am sure all of them will consider themselves right but not establishment republicans. The sad truth is they were and still are ALL IN with state war machines.

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 08:13:25

they are all more to the right than the left.

the ‘right’ is an ideology, not a party.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 08:28:23

“the ‘right’ is an ideology, not a party.”

So it’s maybe an ideology in search of a party?

(And search, and search, and search, and …)

 
Comment by tj
2013-12-21 08:39:23

i think the party abandoned the ideology long ago.

 
Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:26:22

Glad to see the political propaganda is still working.

Even though both Republican and Democratic leaders both support the NSA in its pursuit of all Americans, everyone is convinced it’s the “other guys” fault.

 
 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:30:38

Didn’t most on right support the creation of this monstrosity to begin with?

They certainly did. Until “The Puzzle Palace” was published in 1982, very few people knew about the NSA. They heard of the CIA. The cold war was still going strong. Leonid Breshnev still ruled the Soviet Union and died later in 1982. Soviet communist terror and gulags were at their peak.

In those days, although I was an anarcho capitalist 23 year old and still am an anarcho capitalist, I did not mind America having agencies to spy on the communists.

But what normally happens is that government bureaucracies get well funded and over funded long after their usefulness.

One could make a very good argument that after the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989, the USA had two major choices to make, one of them very costly and disastrous, the other a potential to accelerate the Reagan economic boom.

The second choice of course would be to mothball the NSA, CIA, perhaps also FBI, and pull US troops completely out of all overseas bases, close and sell the bases overseas, and realize the incredible efficiency gains by paying off the debt of militarism and then cutting taxes on the middle class and cutting corporate taxes. This would also mean pulling completely out of the middle east and not fan the flames of Muslim terrorism.

The first choice would be to invent a new enemy: The new enemy being anyone opposing Israel and also drug cartels. This was a disastrous choice. But it was inevitable, as governments naturally tend to grow.

Iron Curtain governments collapsed because Reagan took advantage of their own weakness - paranoia and their goal to starve and sacrifice their own people for the state. Ironically the USA is headed the same direction. The USA is just about run by the NSA.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:51:42

The lesson right wingers will never learn is: Reconsider your wish for a new government bureaucracy or edict in the name of “national security,” for it will ALWAYS outlive its usefulness, and it will grow into a monster and kill off its own creators - the right wing.

This is how the right wingers got the nickname “reactionaries.”

Dr. Murray Rothbard knew this too well. He warned of it in “For a New Liberty,” which was published during the Cold War. Libertarianism has always been against agencies like the NSA and CIA and always against our world cop status. I was wrong to take their stance lightly back then.

On October 21, 2001 under the “progressive” GWB, the “Patriot Act” was passed. A right wing reactionary bill passed across party lines. On May 26, 2011, “Progressive” Barack Obama renewed this evil bill.

Again, the right thing to do is pull completely out of the middle east, shut down all bases, sell off them all. It is never too late. Use the savings to pay off the debt of militarism. Pass it on to the taxpayers.

 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:55:38

The only Senators and Congress persons who voted against the Patriot Act (both 2001 and 2011) and NDAA:

http://freakoutnation.com/2011/12/31/the-only-senators-congress-persons-who-never-supported-the-patriot-act-and-ndaa/

Notice Ron Paul (Texas) on the list.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:17:59

The most transparent administration in history

“President Barack Obama defended the National Security Agency’s call-tracking database Friday, but didn’t offer any specific examples of terrorist attacks the massive collection of telephone data had averted either in the U.S. or elsewhere.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/nsa-call-tracking-database-obama-101394.html?hp=l3

Hope and Change

“President Barack Obama dismissed his falling poll numbers on Friday and defended his administration’s implementation of the Affordable Care Act as he spoke at a year-end White House news conference.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/president-obama-press-conference-2013-101391.html?hp=l7

Forward

“Obama on Friday urged the House to back the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill, describing it as a settled matter that the legislation would benefit the country and is politically popular — without mentioning the option of slicing the measure into a series of smaller provisions.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/barack-obama-senate-comprehensive-immigration-reform-bill-101401.html?hp=l4

Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:33:05

describing it as a settled matter

As opposed to EXISTING LAWS already on the books?

That obama just ignores?

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:17:24

Wasn’t NSA monitoring set up under BUSH?

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:31:30

Ssssshhhhhh….it’s always the other guys fault.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-12-21 11:39:00

Wasn’t NSA monitoring set up under BUSH?

Even if it was, there’s nothing stopping Obama from shutting it down.

Comment by Ben Jones
2013-12-21 12:30:56

NSA Spying Was Never About Terrorism, It Is About Economic Spying

http://benswann.com/nsa-spying-was-never-about-terrorism-it-is-about-economic-spying/

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 12:38:56

The level of corruption this country has stooped to is mind-boggling. Broke, corrupt, hypocritical.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2013-12-21 12:46:02

there’s nothing stopping Obama from shutting it down ??

Can he shut it down under executive order if it was passed legislation ?? I suspect not…

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by In Colorado
2013-12-21 12:59:31

OK, maybe not “shut it down”. But he could direct it to not spy on citizens.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:19:58

I can’t believe New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, California and Illinois didn’t make the list :-)

Top ten states for year-over-year job growth
Conservative Intel | 12/20/13 | David Freddoso

Bet you can’t guess what the top five have in common…

1. North Dakota (energy)
2. Texas (everything)
3. Florida (Construction, trade, business services)
4. Idaho (doesn’t say)
5. Georgia (construction)
6. Oregon (construction)
7. Utah (manufacturing, financial services, and trade/transportation/utilities)
8. Indiana (right to work manufacturing)
9. Delaware (financial services)
10.Colorado (fracking energy)

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:24:57

they dont have state govts that have turned govt into a business for their unions and employees?

I would also say their all red states but florida seems to flip flop.

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:33:52

8,200 of those new jobs in Texas were government jobs. :-)

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:35:48

Texas (everything)

“Texas had the most minimum-wage workers last year, accounting for nearly 13 percent of all such workers across the country, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Some 452,000 Texans — and nearly 3.6 million people nationwide — earned the federal minimum wage or less in 2012. Under the minimum wage, a person working 40 hours a week would make $15,080 a year.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/headlines/20130312-texas-has-nations-most-minimum-wage-workers.ece

Comment by I think it's too few
2013-12-21 08:41:41

3.6 million people at minimum wage.
That’s 1% of the population.
I know that easily 10% are functionally retarded or to lazy to deserve more than subsistence.

So we have a problem;
At least 9 million more people should be on minimum wage.
At least they’d be off the dole, partially.

 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:50:28

Colorado (fracking energy)

“At 7AM (MST), Saturday, 12/21/2013 the highest AQI value was 125 for Particulate less than 2.5 micrometers which indicates Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups air quality. Increasing likelihood of respiratory symptoms in sensitive individuals, aggravation of heart or lung disease and premature mortality in people with cardiopulmonary disease and older adults. People with heart or lung disease, older adults, and children should reduce prolonged or heavy exertion.”

http://www.colorado.gov/airquality/

Comment by Blackhawk
2013-12-21 08:55:28

What do you think is causing this problem in CO?

 
Comment by Hi-Z
2013-12-21 11:09:43

Are you saying fracking is the cause of poor air quality?

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 17:07:39

My first visit to the Front Range was 40 years ago this date. I had a job interview in Denver. Didn’t get it. Rented a VW bug and drove uphill to see what there was to see. Slid very slowly and gently sideways off a road & partly into the ditch. Cell phones not invented yet. Couple of good old boys in a pickup stopped to help me. The three of us picked up one end of the VW and put the wheels back on the pavement.
By the way, the view from where I got it was magnificent, except for the brown cloud of air pollution that existed below a certain elevation. Curses on you frackers and on Geo. W. Bush for that!

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:30:26

Realtor Arrested For Rigging Foreclosure Auctions

http://www.ajc.com/videos/news/dekalb-real-estate-agent-charged-with-bid-rigging/vCFHQ7/

realtors are frauds

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:39:21

Guest Post: 8 Ways The Taper Is Going To Affect You And Your Family
Michael Snyder - The Economic Collapse blog - 12/20/2013

The unelected central planners at the Federal Reserve have decided that the time has come to slightly taper the amount of quantitative easing that it has been doing. On Wednesday, the Fed announced that monthly purchases of U.S. Treasury bonds will be reduced from $45 billion to $40 billion, and monthly purchases of mortgage-backed securities will be reduced from $35 billion to $30 billion. When this news came out, it sent shockwaves through financial markets all over the planet. But the truth is that not that much has really changed. The Federal Reserve will still be recklessly creating gigantic mountains of new money out of thin air and massively intervening in the financial marketplace. It will just be slightly less than before. However, this very well could represent a very important psychological turning point for investors. It is a signal that “the party is starting to end” and that the great bull market of the past four years is drawing to a close. So what is all of this going to mean for average Americans? The following are 8 ways that “the taper” is going to affect you and your family…

1. Interest Rates Are Going To Go Up

2. Home Sales Are Likely Going To Go Down

Mortgage rates are heavily influenced by the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries. Because the yield on 10 year U.S. Treasuries is now substantially higher than it was earlier this year, mortgage rates have also gone up. That is one of the reasons why the number of mortgage applications just hit a new 13 year low. And now if rates go even higher that is going to tighten things up even more. If your job is related to the housing industry in any way, you should be extremely concerned about what is coming in 2014.

3. Your Stocks Are Going To Go Down

In any event, what we do know is that when QE1 ended stocks fell dramatically and the same thing happened when QE2 ended. If you doubt this, just check out this chart.

4. The Money In Your Bank Account Is Constantly Being Devalued

When a new dollar is created, the value of each existing dollar that you hold goes down. And thanks to the Federal Reserve, the pace of money creation in this country has gone exponential in recent years. Just check out what has been happening to M1. It has nearly doubled since the financial crisis of 2008…

The Federal Reserve has been behaving like the Weimar Republic, and this tapering does not change that very much. Even with this tapering, the Fed is still going to be creating money out of thin air at an absolutely insane rate.

And for those that insist that what the Federal Reserve is doing is “working”, it is important to remember that the crazy money printing that the Weimar Republic did worked for them for a little while too before ending in complete and utter disaster.

5. Quantitative Easing Has Been Causing The Cost Of Living To Rise

The Federal Reserve insists that we are in a time of “low inflation”, but anyone that goes to the grocery store or that pays bills on a regular basis knows what a lie that is. The truth is that if the inflation rate was still calculated the same way that it was back when Jimmy Carter was president, the official rate of inflation would be somewhere between 8 and 10 percent today.

Most of the new money created by quantitative easing has ended up in the hands of the very wealthy, and it is in the things that the very wealthy buy that we are seeing the most inflation. As one CNBC article recently stated, we are seeing absolutely rampant inflation in “stocks and bonds and art and Ferraris and farmland”.

6. Quantitative Easing Did Not Reduce Unemployment And Tapering Won’t Either

The Federal Reserve actually first began engaging in quantitative easing back in late 2008. As you can see from the chart below, the percentage of Americans that are actually working is lower today than it was back then…

7. The Rest Of The World Is Going To Continue To Lose Faith In Our Financial System

Everyone else around the world has been watching the Federal Reserve recklessly create hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air and use it to monetize staggering amounts of government debt. They have been warning us to stop doing this, but the Fed has been slow to listen.

We desperately need the rest of the world to keep playing our game, because we have become very dependent on getting super cheap exports from them and we have become very dependent on them lending us trillions of our own dollars back to us.

If the rest of the world decides to move away from the U.S. dollar and U.S. debt because of the incredibly reckless behavior of the Federal Reserve, we are going to be in a massive amount of trouble. Our current economic prosperity greatly depends upon everyone else using our dollars as the reserve currency of the world and lending trillions of dollars back to us at ultra-low interest rates.

8. The Economy As A Whole Is Going To Continue To Get Even Worse

But the truth is that you don’t have to travel far to see evidence of our economic demise for yourself. All you have to do is to go down to the local shopping mall. Sears has experienced sales declines for 27 quarters in a row, and at this point Sears is a dead man walking. The following is from a recent article by Wolf Richter…

Quantitative easing did not “rescue the economy”, but it sure has made our long-term problems a whole lot worse.

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:44:09

QE basiclly got the rich richer.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 10:18:40

They are gonna get much richer under the taper, mark my word.

 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:40:13

The tapier class.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:40:20

If you take on mortgage debt at current massively inflated housing prices, you’ll enslave yourself for the rest of your life.

“Debt is bondage.”~Suze Orman, May 11, 2013

In other words, don’t buy housing at these massively inflated prices. Don’t Be A Debt Donkey®

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:41:32

“Buying a house is an adventure in depreciation discovery and slavery.”

It’s a very painful adventure. Just asked the millions of joe 6 paks who throw good money after bad on a rapidly depreciating house, month after month after month.

Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 07:50:51

u should have the landlord over for dinner.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:53:31

And you’re one of the millions of underwater debtors.

I bet your family is proud of you.

 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:57:03

I have so much money left over after “throwing money away on rent” every month that I could invite the whole building over for dinner.

 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 07:44:22

hope and Change

“Bay Area home sales continued their divergent trajectories in November, with median prices rising while sales volume dipped, according to a real estate report released on Tuesday.

Buyers in the nine-county region paid a median of $550,000 in November, up 25.6 percent from a year earlier, said San Diego’s DataQuick, a real estate information service. The rise was driven by several factors: more high-end homes changing hands, bargain-priced distress sales continuing to dwindle and tight supplies encouraging competitive bids.”

http://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Bay-Area-home-prices-up-but-fewer-sold-5073034.php

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:46:00

“When is housing massively overpriced? It’s quite simple. When the price of the house is in excess of the cost to build (lot, materials, labor and profit), less depreciation for a used house.”

Exactly. No need to confuse it. Our cost to build a SFR is right around $55/sq ft, with profit.

Comment by 2banana
2013-12-21 07:53:52

I would argue it has more to do with cost of rents and average wages in the area.

Cost of a house s/b about equal to 110x cost of monthly rent
Cost of a monthly 30 year fixed mortgage s/b no more than 28% of a family’s take home pay

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 07:57:37

Those who earn more money hand us drawings with more square footage and some gingerbread. That’s the only difference.

 
Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 08:03:42

the currency has been dilluted so much that the only way people can hold on is by financing the home.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 08:06:07

Nonsense. The dollar index today is right where it was in 1991.

There is no “inflation” $hitHouse Poet. There’s price fixing…. but not inflation.

Learn the difference.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by azdude02
2013-12-21 09:07:30

u have no idea wtf your talking about. take your bs somewhere else.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 09:08:41

And once you learn the difference, you’ll develop some credibility.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2013-12-21 14:17:29

There is no “inflation” [...] There’s price fixing….

From what I have been able tell, you are the only poster here who holds this view. Someone please step forward and correct me if I’m wrong (other than HA, of course)…

“Everyone’s out of step but Johnny”

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 14:49:51

It’s not a view. It’s reality….. and no…. It would be you inflationistas and apologists who are out of step.

Keep up.

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 17:11:14

There’s price fixing…. but not inflation.
Learn the difference.

That is a difference without a distinction for those who actually, you know, buy stuff.

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 17:27:37

Nonsense.

It’s the difference between halving prices or doubling your salary.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 08:08:48

Hope and Change

“British and American intelligence agencies had a comprehensive list of surveillance targets that included the EU’s competition commissioner, German government buildings in Berlin and overseas, and the heads of institutions that provide humanitarian and financial help to Africa, top-secret documents reveal.

The papers show GCHQ, in collaboration with America’s National Security Agency (NSA), was targeting organisations such as the United Nations development programme, the UN’s children’s charity Unicef and Médecins du Monde, a French organisation that provides doctors and medical volunteers to conflict zones. The head of the Economic Community of West African States (Ecowas) also appears in the documents, along with text messages he sent to colleagues.

The latest disclosures will add to Washington’s embarrassment after the heavy criticism of the NSA when it emerged that it had been tapping the mobile phone of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel.

One GCHQ document, drafted in January 2009, makes clear that the agencies were targeting an email address listed as belonging to another important American ally – the “Israeli prime minister”. Ehud Olmert was in office at the time.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/20/gchq-targeted-aid-agencies-german-government-eu-commissioner

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:36:51

Countries have always spied on each other. I just think it’s cool that Ed is basically outing the US government to get revenge for threatening him and harassing his friends. Neener neener!

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 08:10:17

The deflationary spiral accelerated in 2008 and the scope has widened and deepened as have the personal financial risks.

Don’t be taken advantage of. DO NOT borrow… especially for a depreciating asset like a house….. and continue stockpiling cash. You’re going to need every penny you can get your hands on.

Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 17:13:04

You’re going to need every penny you can get your hands on.
The financial industry will wind up with most of your pennies in any case.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 17:29:09

Yes. Mine are in the bank.

 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 08:11:29

Paid for by Koch and publicized by Drudge

“Conservative groups may have spent up to $1bn a year on the effort to deny science and oppose action on climate change, according to the first extensive study into the anatomy of the anti-climate effort.

The anti-climate effort has been largely underwritten by conservative billionaires, often working through secretive funding networks. They have displaced corporations as the prime supporters of 91 think tanks, advocacy groups and industry associations which have worked to block action on climate change. Such financial support has hardened conservative opposition to climate policy, ultimately dooming any chances of action from Congress to cut greenhouse gas emissions that are warming the planet, the study found.”

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/20/conservative-groups-1bn-against-climate-change

Comment by Blackhawk
2013-12-21 09:00:39

So? How many billionaire progressive/liberal/socialists give money to the global warming/climate change scientific community?

Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 09:15:31

More importantly it does not change the fact that NASA’s own data does not show warming for the last 17 years. They want to change the subject away from the data but attacking people that pointing out the data.

Comment by Skroodle
2013-12-21 11:36:09

Can’t deny the disappearing ice on the North Pole.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:36:20

I posted for several days showing that Ice is coming back to the North Pole and the total sea ice is around where it was in 1981, some warming. Do you even know what the AMO is and how it impacts sea ice?

 
 
 
Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 09:54:24

Nothing seems to be posting and I will be probably working out before this posts but we should thank them for bringing facts like this to our attention:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/uns-latest-ipcc-report-on-global-warming-just-as-flawed-as-prior-editions/article/2541059?custom_click=rss&utm_campaign=Weekly+Standard+Story+Box&utm_source=weeklystandard.com&utm_medium=referral

 
 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 15:47:03

This headline on this article was amended on 21 December 2013 to reflect that not all the $1bn referred to will have funded climate change work.

This was posted to day where they basically admit the billion dollar number is as bogus as the claim that man is the primary factor for warming between 1978 and 98. They arrived at the $1 billion dollar mark by counting all donations to these organizations which work on many other conservative causes. Many deny they work on climate change at all. This degree of deceit is why the AGW crowd is less and less believed and they would not need to engage in it if the data supported their theory. They had a simple theory that if you increased co2 emissions you would increase global temperatures and nature could be ignored over the timeframe of decades. However, for 17 years the amount of co2 emitted has soared and the temperatures have not increased totally discrediting their numbers. If their numbers had been correct there would not be any ice anywhere in the world instead of setting records at the South Pole.

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:30:26

Oh stop, goon. It’s all just Big Green trying to get rich off of government spending. The globe is just warmer ’cause the sun is closer to the Earth now! I know this because I heard it from a high-school dropout who makes a living by placing things in boxes.

 
 
Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine
2013-12-21 08:16:18

albuquerqueDan says “Regression to the Mean” rules the asset classes. And Dan, that is the best way to put it. People keep ignoring that to their peril by getting too greedy.

Today I saw this and on the same line of reasoning. Could have been written by me:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1903701-your-own-worst-enemy-how-to-prevent-ego-from-destroying-your-portfolio?source=email_mac_mar_out_6_7&ifp=0

I don’t expect to be right all the time. I expect to fail sometimes. I failed in the past and i will fail in the future. But along the way i keep learning and fine tuning to be mostly successful, to listen and learn from others. since 2001 I had a string of Good decisions on Series I Bonds, purchases of precious metals, dollar cost averaging into stock mutual funds, staying out of real estate, and buying my former company stock (now selling off excess). It is part luck (mostly luck on my former company). But it is keeping in mind “regression to the mean.” these are diverse asset classes so I am more confident of my personal investment style.

Most of the media and peanut gallery hate precious metals now. And most of the same say nothing bad about stocks. I like two asset classes the most right now, and they are both opposite of each other: precious metals and T-Bills. I am underinvested in each and over invested in stocks.

 
Comment by In The Name Of National Security
2013-12-21 08:17:49

I have decided to change my screen name so as to gain power over others. All I have to do is flash my name and I will end up getting everything that I want.

Those who dare oppose me will be crushed.

Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:04:45

From your screen name and from reading her posts, I think your other screen name is Polly - otherwise known as school marm Polly. A definite lover of more and more rules and laws to social engineer us to death.

Comment by In The name Of National Security
2013-12-21 11:21:24

For that remark you will be stripped of all your gold holdings, and as for yourself you will be disappeared.

Nobody will be allowed to mess with National Security and get away with it!

Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine
2013-12-21 13:29:41

LOL Dan!

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by NSA Helpline
2013-12-21 14:18:59

That one was not me but it was good.

 
Comment by NSA Hotline
2013-12-22 00:03:20

It’s getting increasingly confusing around here to figure out who is posting.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 08:20:09

California Most Impoverish State In The US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

(geography adjusted)

DC actually tops the list but that particular nest of corruption isn’t a state…. thank God.

Comment by tom cruz bustamante
2013-12-21 09:02:55

If the sad pandas got their wish, it will be the most powerful state in the country. Take that, ‘Murica!

 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 11:12:41

Here’s where my guesses of poverty are in California: The central San Joaquin and Sacramento Valleys (number one), Inland Empire areas, the area around Richmond and Pittsburgh (California), South Central L.A., East L.A., Lancaster / Palmdale (Palmdale was an upscale place in the mid-80s to early 1990s. Other parts of the high desert (meth labs dot the areas). Maybe some places in the coastal valley (Gilroy, Hollister, Casa De Fruita, Salinas, Santa Maria).

I probably missed a few places.

Comment by In Colorado
2013-12-21 11:54:53

There is a color coded map on the wiki page. It shows that California’s poverty is largely concentrated in the inland valleys.

Also of interest, there are counties in South Dakota that have 40%+ poverty rates (none in Cali are that high)

Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 14:23:50

Also of interest, there are counties in South Dakota that have 40%+ poverty rates (none in Cali are that high)

Native American Reservations.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2013-12-21 11:49:55

After looking at the table, the only category California was tops in was in absolute numbers of households in poverty. Being by far the most populated state, that is not surprising.

If the metric used is % of households in poverty, then it’s #17 (13.2%). Not great, but not #1 either. Interestingly, Texas is #6 (16.2%) by percentage of households in poverty, and isn’t far behind Cali in absolute numbers.

One thing, however, is certain: you don’t want to be poor in California. Not with it’s outrageous cost of living.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 11:59:05

“One thing, however, is certain: you don’t want to be poor in California. Not with it’s outrageous cost of living.”

Eh…. that’s the entire point. If you live in california, you’re poor. :clapping:

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 12:51:10

People from elsewhere come to California and pay out some hefty bucks just for the opportunity to bed down near the ocean.

If you are poor and homeless in California you can beat that; Instead of merely sleeping near the ocean you can sleep right on the beach! A perfect ocean view - especially if you decide to bed down below the high tide line.

You people who reside in the remaining 56 states can eat your hearts out.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 13:41:40

“pay out some hefty bucks just for the opportunity to bed down near the ocean”

Doing so makes you poor.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2013-12-21 18:45:41

“If the metric used is % of households in poverty, then it’s #17 (13.2%). Not great, but not #1 either. Interestingly, Texas is #6 (16.2%) by percentage of households in poverty, and isn’t far behind Cali in absolute numbers.”

I was surprised by Arizona, which I knew by cursory observation is a poor state, but their rankings are lower than I realized.

 
 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 14:31:55

I think you wanted to post this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html

Clearly show California is number one but keep encouraging illegals to move in California.

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 14:39:44

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html

Try this one HA, I think I had a Internet problem when I tried to post it earlier.

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 14:45:22

Link has not posted but here is some text:

California has a poverty rate of 23.5 percent, the highest of any state in the country, according to figures released this week by the United States Census Bureau.

 
 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 09:05:10

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/business/new-health-law-frustrates-many-in-middle-class.html

Obamacare and lump of coal for the middle class but a great president for Republicans running for office.

Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:38:04

President = present, I need to check the autocorrect changes.

 
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 12:47:58

From the article, so if a person cuts his income $6000 he gets a $6000 discount, Obamacare is a 100% tax rate no wonder the left likes it, actually it is more than that since you pay regular income taxes on the $6000 what an incentive to work:

The cheapest insurance plan they can find through the new federal marketplace in New Hampshire will cost their family of four about $1,000 a month, 12 percent of their annual income of around $100,000 and more than they have ever paid before.

Even more striking, for the Chapmans, is this fact: If they made just a few thousand dollars less a year — below $94,200 — their costs would be cut in half, because a family like theirs could qualify for federal subsidies.

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:23:42

The cheapest legal health plan comes with a $6,000 per-person deductible, AND a 40% copay. How would that ever be useful for anyone? It’s just handing money to the insurance companies for free.

 
 
 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 10:02:34

Isn’t it a strange world where only two media outlets on the planet (Jones and Hanson) tell the truth and discuss the truth about housing?

Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2013-12-21 11:50:11

Audio: Mortgage Mark Hanson Housing, finance expert With Tom Sullivan
http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/12/20/audio-mortgage-mark-hanson-housing-finance-expert-with-tom-sullivan/

 
 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 12:08:19

Today is the birthday of the late Frank Zappa. He is missed and remembered. It’s good to bring up the subject of Frank Zappa in the mix of big government spying agencies, which Zappa would oppose.

Comment by NSA Help line
2013-12-21 12:39:53

I saw him play in Salt Lake, great concert. He had been banned for years due to pissing on the audience at his last concert. Obama pisses on us all the time without getting banned, go figure.

Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 12:44:11

BTW, its me. It is the first time I ever changed my name and I did it for the joke and then I forgot to change it back.

Comment by tj
2013-12-21 13:11:57

your joke about ‘too busy doing it to the rest of america’ was great. you should unleash the humor more often.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by albuquerquedan
2013-12-21 13:44:31

This one is for Goon. If Obama had a sister, she would look like this:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/20/woman-just-out-of-prison-arrested-for-397th-time/

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 13:58:01

LOLZ!!!

 
 
 
 
Comment by goon squad
2013-12-21 14:16:54

Frank Zappa - Brown Shoes Don’t Make It:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQe9B_VBVqM

 
Comment by Billy BitCorn
2013-12-21 16:32:49

Is it his birthday? My posting of the quote was random chance. Interesting…

Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 17:33:01

Yeah I did not know it either when I responded. Then found out today would have been his 73rd birthday.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 12:13:20

WBBR had a guest on yesterday and discussed sales and marketing for half hour. Dude was a real pro who develops marketing techniques for….. drum roll please……. realturds!

And guess what his number one sales technique is? ”

“You want the buyer as uninformed as possible. The balance of knowledge of the item you’re marketing has to be such that it weights overwhelmingly in favor of the salesman.”

How do you do that? Publicly and deliberately misrepresent the fundamentals of the item.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2013-12-21 12:38:46

Same with the borrower, you want the borrower to be as uninformed as possible.

When you present the dotted line before the borrower for him to sign you do not want him to question such an obscure word as “adjustable” as used in the obscure term “adjustable rate” which most probably will be found in the text (for you borrowers out there in HBBland the word “text” refers to that bunch of printed words that appears just above the dotted line you are about to sign). Rather, you (the lender) and he (the borrower) would both be best served if he paid no attention at all to any words in the contract.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2013-12-21 12:43:39

Frankly, I believe that mortgage salesmen are far more corrupt that realturds.

Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 13:04:40

A few years ago I ran across a mortgage broker who was telling everybody he would be willing to float them loans commission free.

I asked him: “How is it that you make your money? Is on the backside of the loan?”

I could tell he didnt like this, that he didn’t like me using the term “on the backside” because me using such a term indicated to him that I was onto him, that I knew what he was about.

I soon left his presence and the group he was working and I KNEW that while I was gone he would be bad-mouthing me to the group (so as to destroy any credibility I might have had) and sure enough when I returned to the group he was gone and I was greeted by the group with a bit of a chill.

Life is fun.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:18:46

I one asked a mortgage broker why he wanted to charge $6500 to be a middle-man between me and the bank. He hates me forever now.

Yes, baiting mortgage brokers and realtoRs truly is the spice of life.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 17:10:59

Well I guess I should go into part two of this event:

After I returned to the group I learned that one member of the group bought into the mortgage broker’s no-commission offer and was going to borrow money via this mortgage broker in order to buy another house - which was something he decided to do well before the mortgage broker entered the scene.

Because this issue of making money on the backside of a loan is a bit complex and at the same time the issue is trying to be communicated to a layman via a non-liscensed non-professional - which is who I am - and because my opinion contradicts the (self-serving) opinion of a liscensed professional (read: expert) which happens to be the mortgage broker my words were sort of lost in the wind.

Plus, as I mentioned before, during my short absence from the group I was trashed a bit by the mortgage broker, which I KNEW would happen because the mortgage broker accurately sized me up as a being a possible threat to carrying out his scheme.

So the house buyer went with the mortgage broker and because of this the mortgage broker landed some big bucks and life goes on.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 17:21:48

I should add that this mortgage broker was essentially a walking salesman who offered his pitch to everyone he happened to encounter. He encountered our group simply by walking down the sidewalk to where we were gathered and then he introduced himself to us and then presented his offer.

He probably did not spend any more than ten minutes on us from start to finish and he ended up with the begining of a sale.

ABC - Always Be Closing

 
Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 18:22:38

So the house buyer went with the mortgage broker and because of this
And the FB’er - what became of him/her?

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 18:36:42

The FB did okay, it wasn’t as if the mortgage broker cleaned his clock.

The FB ended up paying a higher mortgage rate than the risk/reward ratio to a lender would otherwise allow him to receive if he were to bypass this mortgage broker, this middleman altogether, but this higher rate was not a killer rate so it all worked out in the end.

The FB got to enjoy a sense - got to enjoy a feeling - that he had a win and the mortgage broker did a bit more that sense or feel that he had a win - he actually DID HAVE a win.

Such is life.

 
Comment by Combotechie
2013-12-21 19:12:48

On a related note:

About ten years ago I happened to be working with a lady who had a son that was a mortgage broker and she was proud a hell of him because he was pulling in some really big bucks. He did this mainly by making house calls.

Step One: Land a mark, work the mark in such a way that you become his newest best friend. As his newest best friend you will get to offer to him what you lead him to believe is a killer mortgage rate.

Step Two: Keep tabs on the mark and keep tabs on the rate of change of the mark’s home equity. When the home equity rises to a point to where it is worth the effort make a house call on the mark and supply the mark with some paperwork that will magically unleash the dormant home equity and turn this newly unleashed previously dormant home equity into some cold, hard cash.

Do this and do this and do this until you cannot do this anymore and you will end up with a whole bunch of money and the mark, who used to think of you as being his newest best friend, will end up being screwed.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 15:13:56

Here’s a funny one. True too. I called the airline rep. US Airways flights between John Wayne Airport and Phoenix Sky Harbor have just gone up in price (drum roll) 320%! I just checked January flights. I’m used to paying $100 each way plus the tax for coach non refundable. Now the flights are $426 each way.

I checked the end of January into February too.

What’s going on US Airways? You are merging with American Airlines.

Guess I now have to switch to Southwest. I liked Southwest whenever I flew on that, but chose AWA because AWA was based in Phoenix.

Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 15:16:03

Well the nice thing is I have 380,000 miles on US Airways. Guess I will be using up my miles as long as these flights are priced outrageously.

Comment by Bill, just south of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 15:52:54

LOL - just paid $5 for my January round trip, plus 35,000 miles. It would have cost me $852 otherwise for a short weekend trip home. And I have 2 free rental car days with Thrifty to use - and just booked them. I guess gas price and $5 for the flight will total about $25 for a winter Phoenix weekend.

I am leaving Thrifty as a loyal Blue Chip member the last 10 years to National, Alamo, or Enterprise. Just checked to be sure. Hertz bought Dollar and Thrifty in January 2013 so I will boycott all three. It’s all because of bad treatment by a lowly employee. Whatever happened to “customer is always right?” - when same customer paid thousands of dollars in car rentals to Thrifty?

Hopefully this US Airways price fart is just a seasonal temporary thing. But I don’t care anymore. As a lower paid engineer these days I have to shop around.

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:14:54

The airlines are starting to look like a very well-disguised advertisement for taking the Greyhound.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 17:31:11

That’s the truth man! If I paid for the car rental plus the air fare, it would add to around $1,000 for flight and car and no gas.

 
Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 19:23:01

Dang - turned out I was on the phone with a corporate twit of that airline. While I talked with her I asked her 1) how come first class nonrefundable seats are $150 less than the coach non-refundable seats? She said because I was a preferred level. Okay. So I asked her 2) is the web site down? How come the prices are up by 320%? She said she could not do anything about it. As an aside, I punched in the code for internet site help and she was the flunkee know-nothing who answered my call. Why do corporations hire these drones?

3 hours later, after I use 35,000 miles to book a flight, I check Expedia for lowest air fares - US Airways was lowest. The prices were back to normal low levels. Chagrined, I logged back into the US Airways web site. Sure enough, prices were back to normal levels of what I would pay.

Not too much of a coincidence I would guess. Here’s what I think happened. Miss Corporate drone unknowingly caused me to look for either a different airline (I did - and prices were reasonable) or redeem my miles to book a flight, which i did. After ending the conversation she must have talked to someone. I would have been willing to pay for a flight as long as it was reasonably priced and not 326% higher than the flights I have paid for the last 12 months.

This is what is going on in corporate America. You “progressives” complain about the pay of the CEOs. I complain that their lowest level people are twits and deserve minimum wage.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2013-12-21 16:11:20

Hi everyone. I’m not gonna buy health insurance until they let me have a catastrophic plan. That’s the only type of insurance that makes any sense. What about the rest of you?

Comment by tresho
2013-12-21 18:24:27

What about the rest of you?
All of our health plans ARE catastrophes waiting to happen.

Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine, CA
2013-12-21 19:25:39

Here is what I don’t understand. Are all of us sheople supposed to register for Obysmal care? Whether we have insurance or not?

In either case, I am NOT going to register. Washington is a band of thugs and I did not sign any contract stating that I will sign any of their forms that they want me to sign.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2013-12-21 19:06:28

Basic Allowance for Housing paid to service members living off base in the United States will rise an average of 5 percent in January to keep pace with rental cost increases over the past year.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/12/21/2959055/basic-housing-allowances-to-jump.html

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2013-12-21 23:52:17

With Fed out of the way, what’s next on Wall Street?
By Angela Moon
NEW YORK Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:02am EST

(Reuters) - With the U.S. Federal Reserve finally announcing it will start tapering its stimulus, removing a big uncertainty in the market, can Wall Street expect a stronger finish to the year? Not really.

The “Santa Claus rally” is a seasonal anomaly that describes a rise in stock prices in December, generally over the final week of trading prior to the new year.

The benchmark S&P 500’s average gain during the last five days of December and the first two of January is about 1.5 percent since 1950, according to Stock Trader’s Almanac. The equities market has gone up in December about 80 percent of the time for the past 20 years.

Although the S&P 500 is up just about 1 percent so far this month, the index is up about 27 percent for the year and is on track for its biggest gain since 1997.

“It’s been a strong year, and I wouldn’t be surprised if investors closed out their year today,” said Doug Foreman, co-chief investment officer of Kayne Anderson Rudnick Investment Management.

“There isn’t much room or news to move higher from here until next year.”

Comment by Bill, just South of Irvine
2013-12-22 08:07:37

Closing out some of your holdings and taking gains off the table on your best performing cyclicals is always a smart move. Realizing partial gains on a holding that has for several years gone higher is a great move. Rebalance and add to safety assets to prepare for the next big correction.

 
 
Name (required)
E-mail (required - never shown publicly)
URI
Your Comment (smaller size | larger size)
You may use <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong> in your comment.

Trackback responses to this post