February 3, 2014

Getting Into Bidding Wars And Overpaying

The Bradenton Herald reports from Florida. “According to RealtyTrac, Manatee County saw a 55 percent increase in residential property flips between 2011 and 2013. ‘Personally, I’m not seeing them,’ said Mike Polachek, a Realtor with Keller Williams on the Water in Bradenton. ‘Investors are buying the properties and holding them.’”

“Polachek said about 35 percent of his residential sales are to investors, most of whom are planning to hang onto properties between two and five years. A strong rental market has enticed investors to collect rental income until they feel they can get a solid profit out of selling a property.”

The Sun Sentinel. “House flipping in South Florida rose only 8 percent last year after nearly doubling a year earlier as investors start to focus on other areas, a new report shows. Lex Levinrad, head of the Boca Raton-based Distressed Real Estate Institute, said South Florida flippers are struggling to find properties that make sense financially. In some cases, novice investors are bidding up prices. He said one flipper recently bid $75,000 on a two-bedroom home that would have only been worth that amount after it was renovated.”

“Levinrad tells investors to buy a home for no more than 65 percent of the market value after repairs. ‘There’s just not enough spread in there to fix up and flip a property,’ Levinrad said. ‘People are getting into bidding wars and they’re overpaying.’”

“Housing prices are rising. Wages aren’t. The combination makes South Florida worst in the nation for overburdening families with housing costs, local officials say. Broward housing experts said the statistics are shocking, and must be addressed. Home prices in Fort Lauderdale are $155,000 higher than a median-income family can afford, county officials said. Just two years ago, the gap was much lower, at $49,000.”

“Ralph Stone, director of the Broward Housing Finance and Community Development Division, said the gap has risen dramatically in just two years. ‘We now have seven cities that have six-figure gaps,’ he told city and county leaders this week, as they met to grapple with the problem.”

The Orlando Sentinel. “The cost of a home in Metro Orlando is climbing as buyers face a triple whammy of higher prices, increased interest rates and tougher mortgage rules for customers who have a lot of debt. The biggest shift has been a 20 percent increase in home prices during the past year. ‘We’ve been looking for a year. The housing market has definitely gone up,’ said Cocoa resident Teresa Myers, who has been house-hunting in Orlando to lessen her husband’s commute to work. ‘Our maximum budget is $200,000, and we’ve just stopped looking and put it on hold for a while.’”

From Miami Today. “Developers across South Florida are rapidly building condo projects. People buying are not speculators said Sam Beznos, principal at Beztak Companies, and are putting up large deposits and are going to close. They aren’t going to flood the market for whatever income they can get. The new, hip projects coming to the market will be appealing to young professionals and they will be willing to pay the rental price, he said. ‘I see the rental market going up, but obviously it’s going to be very much dictated by the overall economy in Florida, too,’ Mr. Beznos said. ‘I think you are going to see a rise in rents anyway because other costs are going up – real estate taxes, insurance.’

“He added, ‘When these condos deliver, people can’t rent them at what they were before because you just can’t maintain those costs.’”

“In Edgewater, the Melo Group completed construction of rental property 22 Skyview last September, said principal Carlos Melo. Rental rates for 22 Skyview’s one-, two- and three-bedroom units range from approximately $1,500 to $2,800 a month. He said building a rental property uses the same manpower and materials as building a condo, yet condos can demand a high price per square foot. With rentals, he said, you have to charge what people can pay.”

From 10 News. “The Bay area has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the county and as a result squatters are popping up all around. With thousands of foreclosed homes in the Bay area, it’s attracting some unwanted visitors in many parts of the city; something Tampa police officers have caught on to. Corporal Lisa Parashis recently came upon what seemed to be a normal home with two women living there. The problem is, it wasn’t their home to begin with. ‘They had electricity on and everything,’ says Parashis.”

“Tampa Police says if you notice someone moving into a home that you don’t think they own, give them a call. Because, with foreclosed homes, it could take some time to kick the unwanted neighbor out. ‘It can get very difficult because in the foreclosure process, it’s hard to find who is the owner,’ says Corporal Parashis.”

The Tampa Bay Times. “Still waiting to see whether you’ll get a share of the Florida Hardest Hit Fund’s $350 million in mortgage principal reductions? Join the club. In the four months since a flood of 25,000 underwater home­owners applied for the state-distributed relief, only 750 have had their loans paid down, state officials said. The rules for program approval are strict: Homeowners must be current on their mortgage, owe more than 25 percent over a home’s market value, and earn household wages less than 40 percent over the area’s median income, which in Tampa Bay puts them at about $80,000.”

“But in Florida, where 29 percent of all homeowners with a mortgage are underwater, those limits barely made a dent in demand for help. Barbara Taylor, a 66-year-old former snowbird who bought a south St. Petersburg condo at the peak of the bubble, said she has been frustrated by the lack of communication on whether her up-to-date loan could qualify.”

“‘I can understand getting an email that says, ‘Give us 30 days and we’ll update you,’ Taylor said. ‘But when I (called my contractor and) got that response — ‘Don’t call us, we’ll call you’ — that burned me.’”




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Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-02-03 06:34:29

“Polachek said about 35 percent of his residential sales are to investors, most of whom are planning to hang onto properties between two and five years. A strong rental market has enticed investors to collect rental income until they feel they can get a solid profit out of selling a property.”

Is 35 percent of residential sales to investors a fairly typical figure compared to historical experience in Craterton, FL?

 
Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-02-03 06:35:59

“With thousands of foreclosed homes in the Bay area, it’s attracting some unwanted visitors in many parts of the city; something Tampa police officers have caught on to.”

I thought all the shadow inventory of foreclosure homes had been snapped up by all-cash Chinese and Canadian investors by now?

 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-03 07:01:03

‘Investors are buying the properties and holding them.’”

“Polachek said about 35 percent of his residential sales are to investors, most of whom are planning to hang onto properties between two and five years. A strong rental market has enticed investors to collect rental income until they feel they can get a solid profit out of selling a property.”

Ya gotta love Dumb.Borrowed.Money

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 08:26:58

‘Home prices in Fort Lauderdale are $155,000 higher than a median-income family can afford, county officials said. Just two years ago, the gap was much lower, at $49,000. Ralph Stone, director of the Broward Housing Finance and Community Development Division, said the gap has risen dramatically in just two years. ‘We now have seven cities that have six-figure gaps’

Oh Ralph, who cares if houses are wildly unaffordable? It’s cheaper than renting! Get out there and buy buy buy!

Comment by Ethan in norfok va
2014-02-03 10:15:55

The sad thing is your joke could become true. Rents do keep going up where I live at, although lots of new buildings being built.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-03 10:23:56

…..yet renting is still a small fraction of the cost of buying.

Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 10:30:55

‘Rents do keep going up where I live’

They aren’t here. As we used to say, you can’t get a ninja loan to pay your rent.

‘renting is still a small fraction of the cost of buying’

That’s true for the house I’m in. I was just poking fun at the illogical stuff we’re told.

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Comment by Bad Andy
2014-02-03 08:30:20

“as buyers face a triple whammy of higher prices, increased interest rates and tougher mortgage rules for customers who have a lot of debt.”

And how are home prices supposed to climb in this environment?

Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-02-03 11:35:17

I dunno. I don’t think they will.

 
 
Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-03 09:23:57

Worthless housing…. worthless worthless housing…. It’s worth less and less with each passing day.

Comment by Pedro
2014-02-04 19:29:54

You’re an annoying troll and not very sensible. Don’t you have some thing else to do?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-07 06:50:05

If you believe housing is worth more with each passing day, why don’t you demonstrate it?

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 09:28:58

‘When these condos deliver, people can’t rent them at what they were before because you just can’t maintain those costs.’

Well, you can actually. You’re just going to have to dig a little deeper and pay more than the rent you receive. It’s happened before.

What’s amazing about this situation in Miami is that people give these guys millions and millions of dollars.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 10:47:51

‘Investors are buying the properties and holding them.’…Polachek said about 35 percent of his residential sales are to investors, most of whom are planning to hang onto properties between two and five years’

Two to five years? If they are making a good return, why would they ever sell them?

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-03 10:50:39

The arbitrary 2-5. Why not 2-5 months? Or 3-6 years? It’s all BS.

 
Comment by snake charmer
2014-02-03 12:11:42

I thought that timeline was consistent with flipping. And I read that all-cash transactions made up 62% of sales in this state in December.

When all is said and done, the response to the global economic crisis will go down as one of the biggest political failures in American history, and possibly as the one that ended the era of democratic government.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 11:05:07

‘a normal home with two women living there. The problem is, it wasn’t their home to begin with. ‘They had electricity on and everything’

And there are many thousands in Florida living for years in houses they aren’t paying for. They have the electricity on too. Water even!

 
Comment by "Uncle Fed, why won't you love ME?"
2014-02-03 11:16:04

“He added, ‘When these condos deliver, people can’t rent them at what they were before because you just can’t maintain those costs.’”

Um, yeah, the landlord will just lose money on the deal. Didn’t people learn during the first bubble? The landlord’s costs do not determine rental rates. Rental rates are determined by the supply and demand of rental units. If the landlord has higher costs, but the demand is not greater than the supply, then the rent will not just magically increase to meet the landlord’s desires.

Comment by Housing Analyst
2014-02-03 11:23:08

Exactly. A landlords expenses have nothing to do with the retail price of rents.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 12:51:19

‘determined by the supply and demand of rental units’

This is even funnier; there are thousands and thousands of condos on the way in Miami, and this guy thinks rents are going up?

Rents will be going lower!

 
Comment by JoJo
2014-02-04 14:51:38

I used to hear the same ‘logic’ on the real estate shows on HGTV. People would price their house as follows: Mortgage payoff + HELOC + down payment on ‘dream home’, then they’d get a rude shock when the potential buyers based their offers on neighborhood comps.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2014-02-03 14:25:10

What’s up with all the doom and gloomers on wall street? It’s not like the global economy is a flimsy house of cards or anything.

Comment by Whac-A-Bubble™
2014-02-04 00:17:55

Sadly, for those who thought home equity was decoupled from Wall Street equity, they were wrong. Housing prices follow stock prices with a time lag that reflects the relative efficiency of the stock market to adjust to changing economic realities.

 
 
Comment by Puggs
2014-02-03 14:26:10

“The Tampa Bay Times. “Still waiting to see whether you’ll get a share of the Florida Hardest Hit Fund’s $350 million in mortgage principal reductions? Join the club. In the four months since a flood of 25,000 underwater home owners applied for the state-distributed relief, only 750 have had their loans paid down, state officials said.”

One mortgage principal reduction is ONE to many. It sets a precedent for more coddling down the road. News flash: if you couldn’t afford yer house before a principal reduction you can’t afford it afterward.

 
Comment by chilidoggg
2014-02-03 17:05:06

“It can get very difficult because in the foreclosure process, it’s hard to find who is the owner”

I thought this B.S. was all mopped up!

 
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